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there's so much that goes on in each one that

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so much empowerment that all of you share in one moment.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Thank you so much. I'm so glad

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that you enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: True, truly, it's one of those you know, because people

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are going to go into it and they're going to go,

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who is this and why should I care? Well, right

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in the very beginning, you begin to care and you

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begin to have that emotional connection. Is what you do.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, now, that was our goal. We wanted to tell

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epic stories. The reality is, if you like sport, you

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like entertainment. Adaptive is a show that you should watch.

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It's as simple as that. And we wanted to capture people.

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We wanted to tell these great stories. We wanted people

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to be able to turn on Peacock if you have

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a subscription, and watch some of the most riveting stories

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you could have ever imagined. And I appreciate that you

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feel the same way and you've recognized that, and thank

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you for tuning in, my friend.

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Speaker 1: And it reaches beyond the sport. We get to see

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your real life, and that, to me is the connection

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because you're right, we were all flawed, but but you weren't.

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You are still to this day not afraid.

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Speaker 2: You're absolutely right. It's let me be even more broad.

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If you like good stories, period, adaptive is for you,

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simple as that, Like, that's what this is about. And yeah,

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it is a little scary to be fully vulnerable in

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I'm gonna do it completely authentically, and I'm going to

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be one hundred percent open and vulnerable and let the world,

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you know, world just consume my life. And that's exactly

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what we've done. And I think we I think we

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did it the right way. And you know, thankfully it

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turned out really well and the critics are enjoying it,

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the fans are enjoying it. So it's all all we

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Speaker 1: Don't you think? It also humanizes the Paralympics because we've

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all read the headlines, you know, in magazines and We've

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seen it, you know, in a three minute clip on

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television or YouTube. But this right here puts you guys

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, one hundred percent does that. And it's all about,

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able to consume in a digestible way. I mean, they're

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so so, so many different storylines that intersect and connect

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and I mean story beads, and I just couldn't have

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imagined that everything would come together in such a beautiful

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way like this. But you're right, it's about humanizing these

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athletes and it's beautiful to see it all on the

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on the big screen. I'll tell you.

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Dick's Sporting Goods. I'm going, what w what does Dick

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Sporting Goods have to do with this man? I shot there?

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to have a partner like Dick Sporting Goods who came

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then could you know, help us, help us, you know,

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finish this thing and fund us throughout the process is

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power of sports changed lives, and that's what Adaptive is

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is an example of that. And I mean, I'll tell

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the whole team collectively decided that we were going to

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on peacock. And so there was nothing more motivating than that.

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have the same experience. Never never again, dude, you change me,

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never again, you changed my life.

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publicly before and they'll get to see the real behind

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the scenes of it. But you know, after I placed

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fifth the Tokyo Paralympic Games, I was so upset by

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coming so close to the podium that I set the

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screensaver on my phone as a photo of the metalist

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that beat me with the words never again, and then

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that motivated me twenty times over. Every time I open

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here is for the nurses and the doctors at the hospital.

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they're facing those walls every dang day. You know, take

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a picture never again, and it really it serves as

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get it. It's as simple as that. How badly do

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you want your dreams? How badly do you want to

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change your situation? How badly do you want to progress?

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write never again on it, and there I can promise

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you there will be nothing more motivating than that.

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Speaker 1: Another powerful quote. What people don't know is what it's

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what other people perceive of you. But if they've never

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been in your shoes. Then how can they you know,

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how can they even have an opinion to begin with?

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I cried like a baby. I did, because I mean,

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oh my god, you're serious. Oh my god, did you

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see your mother? I want to hold my baby. I

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want to hold my baby. And I just I just

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wanted to climb through that screen and say we please

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let her hold her baby, and and oh my god,

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Peacock because my mom is the most amazing person I've

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you all what it's like to raise a child with

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a disability and how to instill confidence in them and

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how to not let them or treat to those insecurities.

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her storyline as well. It's almost like having you know,

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the act or the talent beside you. Is is the

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just being there as the you know, the assistant.

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up next. The name of the documentary on Paramount is adaptive.

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We're back with ez refrec All. Right, without spoiling it again,

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I'm just gonna set it up, okay, but but you know,

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the first god, man, he didn't make it. Second attempt,

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didn't make it that third attempt, and then something happens.

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean listen, Uh, you know we won't be

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won't spoil it for the listeners because they you know,

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on their own because they'll definitely enjoy it. But but no,

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this doc is about It's about the lows, the losses,

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the failure, they'll almost making it. The laughter, the tears,

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the anger, and then all of that building to the

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opportunity to deliver on gold. It's as simple as that,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. My message to the younger generation is dream big, genuinely. Genuinely.

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statistically unlikely goal, and then pursue it with everything you.

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a third degree black belt, what happened to is that

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you have to be able to walk through the fire,

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up high. And so that's what I feel like I

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the failure, through the learnings to ultimately, you know, reach

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how did you bust through that wall? Because we do

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Speaker 2: Right, exactly. You can't. You can't. I mean listen, the

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same discipline and the same motivation that you guys will

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see in this documentary to all the listeners. You know,

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the same discipline you'll see in Adaptive can be applied

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to truly anything in life, right early mornings, getting good sleep,

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recovering properly, optimizing the right things in your life. Right,

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all those fine, little small details that you might not

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think make that big of a difference, you know, one off,

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but then when you add them all up together, it

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makes a really, really big difference to the journey of

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a high achiever is all seen on Peacock. And I

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hope that people can watch this documentary knowing that whatever

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they're doing, whatever they're going after in life, whatever goals

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they have, this is a framework of how to accomplish

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your goals, and it's literally portrayed for the world to see.

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Speaker 1: Do you keep a d frag journal where you ask

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the questions and then question your own answers.

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a good question. I've never actually done one of those before,

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but I do have a journal which I'm constantly writing in. Constantly. Uh,

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you know, manifesting through and uh, you know, writing down

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what I aim to accomplish, and then in a way

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we do that because I'm surrounded by such an amazing

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team that we're constantly you know, we're constantly adapting to

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adversity and then questioning the way we're adapting to it.

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just consistent, consistent, you know, growth, which will continue to occur.

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your responses to situations that comes up to make sure

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'm glad that you brought up the people

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around you because in my notes here I go that

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each of one of you on the documentary, you all

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have one thing in common. You have to trust the

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people that surround you.

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Speaker 2: You have to you have to trust the people around

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you because it's not a solo journey, right. I might

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be competing at the Games as a solo athlete, but

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there are hundreds, if not thousands of people who have

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made an impact in me to get to that point.

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trust my processists. I have to trust my physical therapists.

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I have to trust my strength and conditioning coach. I

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have to trust my sports psychologists. I mean, think about

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how many people who although at the end of the

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day am the one lining up mono el mono next

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to these guys, the reality is to get me in

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that position, I've had to trust the work of my

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entire team, and so learning to be a leader in

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that sense and learning to, you know, I'll activate all

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of my team members to be the best versions of themselves.

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Speaker 1: Here's a life coach lesson to be learned. You couldn't celebrate,

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and the reason why is because you had that, you know,

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a higher purpose, and that was the world record exactly.

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Speaker 2: So at the World Championships when I won my first

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world title, my coach didn't let me celebrate until we

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broke the world record. And yeah, he didn't let me

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celebrate till we broke the world record. And I think that's,

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you know, a testament to the type of ambition that

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everybody needs to have. I was, I won my first

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world title, but literally wasn't allowed to celebrate until I

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broke the world record. And so the same logic can

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be applied to anything anyone is doing at any point

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in life. This documentary is an example of that. Adaptive

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is an example of that. Have those big dreams, have

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that high high ambition, and then don't stop at anything,

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don't get complacent at all until you make that a reality.

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And if you're looking for more, you know, motivation or ferration,

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literally turn on Peacock and you'll find it.

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Speaker 1: Once you hit that accomplishment. I love the fact that

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the first person you went to was Mom.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean listen, Mom was there since day one.

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Mom built me into the man I am she you know,

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she deserves every bit of that that gold metal hug.

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mean we're talking about the best high jumper in the

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era of the of the era, and it's like, what

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the heck, man, when were the chances you would get

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this opportunity?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Very special. I mean listen, I think things come

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together and sometimes you have to just you know, follow

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the path of a universe in a way. And that's

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what that was. I felt like him and I coming

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together for me to get the opportunity to train with

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him one of the greatest high jumpers of all time,

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and you know, have him be my coach. You know,

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he was always an older brother kind of figure to me,

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but then really, you know, it went to the next level.

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we made history. You know.

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Speaker 1: One of the relatable moments in this and there's no

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way in hell that I'm going to be the only

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one that's going to relate with what goes on inside

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this documentary, and that is is that. You know, when

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I was in my teens, I was I wanted to

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be a professional bowler, and I was doing very well

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with the AGBC. But guess what happened, dude. The girlfriend.

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The girlfriend got in the way of me setting my goals.

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And when you talk about yes, I swear to god,

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Speaker 2: God, how did that happen?

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Speaker 1: Thought, Well, it's because I was I was paying attention

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to her. And I remember one of my teammates comes

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up and says, dude, dude, get your mind on the game,

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get it off her. So I could really relate with that.

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When when you bring that into the documentary, I'm going, oh,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're absolutely right. Now I was in a position

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where I felt like if I had a girlfriend, it

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would it would get me further away from my goals.

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from the feeling of love, which in many ways can

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be some of the most beautiful emotions you'll ever experience.

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then you know, I'm not going to spoil too much,

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but in the doc, you know, I ended up end

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up finding my person and so you uh, you know,

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you get to see that p trae. So listen once again.

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Like you love sports, you love entertainment, adaptive is for you.

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You love storytelling, you love good stories. Adaptive is for you.

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If you love love, if you love romance, you want

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to see how a world class athlete ends up, you know,

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falling in love, Adaptive is for you. So this sort

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of you know, the average American will find, uh, you know,

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find what they'd love in this project, and and that's

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super exciting.

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Speaker 1: Well, and then listener needs to understand when you begin

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this this journey and you start watching the first episode,

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do not be shocked that you're you're gonna jump right

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into the second and then you're to go right into

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the third and you're it's not gonna be one of

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those where gona say I'm not getting my time back.

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That's baloney. What you got was a full education.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I love it, I love it. I'm

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so glad you you binged all three episodes and felt

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so strong and enjoyed it as much as you did.

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I mean, that's that means a lot to me. We

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put we put a lot into this project. And to

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see the world receive it the way they have, the

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critics receive it the way they have, and then to

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hear you say this, of course, it's you know, very special.

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Speaker 1: Now answer, I'm going to make a prediction, and you

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can slap me upside the head if you want to.

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I think you're going to get into making documentaries yourself,

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because there's something about these stories that really do empower everybody.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, No, that's probably a very accurate prediction. That is

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the plan, you know, That's what we want to do,

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is we want to continue to tell these stories. We

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want to tell them on the you know, the biggest

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of stages, the brightest of lights, and make sure that

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the world is you know, is hearing how how amazing

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these stories truly are Wow, where.

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Speaker 1: Can people go to find out more about you? Answer?

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Because I want them to know who you are.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. I mean, the best way to get

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to know me is you know, any social media. My

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username is ezrafrect my full name. I post full time

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content there. But then, truly, if you want to get

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to know the most behind the scenes in depth, look

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in my life. You want to know who I am

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at my core, make sure to extream adaptive on Peacock.

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Check it out. I hope you all enjoy it because

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clearly you know, clearly you know the world has been

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receiving it well, thankfully, thank God.

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Speaker 1: Wow, please come back to this show anytime in the future.

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The door is always going to be open for you.

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Speaker 2: Dude, absolutely absolutely, Thank you so much, my friend, this

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is this is an amazing time.

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Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you you too,