WEBVTT 1 00:00:10.359 --> 00:00:12.279 Here we go back on the Big one, seven hundred 2 00:00:12.400 --> 00:00:16.079 WLW twelve ten Dan Carrolyn for the great American Bill Cunningham. 3 00:00:16.160 --> 00:00:18.679 We live in historic times. Not only is it approaching 4 00:00:18.679 --> 00:00:21.239 one hundred degrees here in the tri State, we've got 5 00:00:21.559 --> 00:00:24.879 news cycles spinning just like It's like I said long 6 00:00:24.879 --> 00:00:29.039 ago that Trump is a whirling dervish of news cycles, 7 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:32.560 of news items of things that we talk about here 8 00:00:32.600 --> 00:00:35.759 on seven hundred WLW and other talk radio shows across 9 00:00:35.759 --> 00:00:39.880 the country. And that is happening right now more than 10 00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:43.200 almost any other time that I can think of. I've 11 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:47.479 pretty much assembled my national security team to inform and 12 00:00:47.640 --> 00:00:48.920 enlighten everyone. 13 00:00:48.960 --> 00:00:49.280 Today. 14 00:00:49.359 --> 00:00:51.439 We're gonna in the two o'clock hour, we'll talk with 15 00:00:51.479 --> 00:00:54.520 my buddy Tom King, a great constitutional lawyer. Will we 16 00:00:54.640 --> 00:00:58.840 find out if Trump is actually on solid constitutional footing 17 00:00:59.159 --> 00:01:01.880 if you want to believe what not all the Democrats, 18 00:01:01.920 --> 00:01:05.599 surprisingly but many of the Democrats are saying that Trump 19 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:08.480 is acting unconstitutionally. Tom King will be here to break 20 00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:12.000 that down. My buddy d W. Wilber, who was undercover 21 00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:15.760 for the CIA back in the day in the Middle 22 00:01:15.799 --> 00:01:19.239 East in other places around the world, still has many 23 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:22.400 contacts throughout the Middle East. He'll be here to break 24 00:01:22.439 --> 00:01:26.280 down the strategy of the strategy, strategy of it all 25 00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:29.920 easy for me to say. In between, we've got Representative 26 00:01:29.959 --> 00:01:34.040 Adam Byrd and there's some marijuana legislation that may be 27 00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:37.040 passed today. We'll talk about that. But leading things off, 28 00:01:37.599 --> 00:01:39.480 I can't think of a better person to lead off 29 00:01:39.480 --> 00:01:43.640 today than the online opinion editor of the Washington Times, 30 00:01:43.959 --> 00:01:47.159 host of the Bold and Blunt podcast. She is an 31 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:50.480 author of multiple books. And Cheryl Chumley, who's a friend 32 00:01:50.519 --> 00:01:52.719 of the show, a friend of the station. Cheryl, it 33 00:01:53.319 --> 00:01:56.640 has fallen to your capable shoulders to get this show 34 00:01:56.680 --> 00:01:59.079 off to a great start today. Are you prepared? 35 00:02:00.640 --> 00:02:00.879 Well? 36 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:01.359 Happy? 37 00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:01.879 Bomb? 38 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:05.079 Iran daz right that. 39 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:05.959 It's great to be with you. 40 00:02:06.040 --> 00:02:06.239 Dan. 41 00:02:06.599 --> 00:02:09.319 Unbelievable. You saw President Trump this morning. I mean he 42 00:02:09.439 --> 00:02:11.680 was hot as a match. But I look at that, Cheryl, 43 00:02:11.759 --> 00:02:15.120 and I think to myself, and I honestly have not 44 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:18.199 had time to watch the reaction from the CNNs and 45 00:02:18.280 --> 00:02:22.360 the MSNBC's or George Stephanopolis or anyone like that, but 46 00:02:22.439 --> 00:02:25.560 they will look at this, and I can't help but 47 00:02:25.599 --> 00:02:27.680 think they're going to want to create a huge rift 48 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:31.120 between Trump and net and Yahoo and all our other 49 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:33.639 allies that Trump is as mad as can be. But 50 00:02:33.680 --> 00:02:35.680 then he gets on the plane and says, hey, the 51 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:38.439 sea's fire is going to happen. So this is I 52 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:41.879 think a great lesson in the way that Trump deals 53 00:02:41.879 --> 00:02:45.039 with things. He knows how the sausage is made. He 54 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:48.680 is not afraid to when he's not happy with something 55 00:02:48.719 --> 00:02:50.840 to call that out. And I think in the long 56 00:02:50.919 --> 00:02:52.919 run that winds up paying dividends for him. 57 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:55.400 What say you, yeah, it does. 58 00:02:55.439 --> 00:02:58.080 It shows his very human side, right, you know? 59 00:02:58.199 --> 00:02:58.439 To me? 60 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:01.840 And I was actually when he dropped that F bomb, 61 00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:06.680 and in the after effect, the media reporting sort of 62 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:10.879 made me laugh because they termed it as Trump displays frustration, 63 00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:12.719 and I was thinking, well, that was a little bit 64 00:03:12.759 --> 00:03:13.800 more than frustration. 65 00:03:14.560 --> 00:03:15.439 But you're right, he. 66 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:17.759 Comes around and he's you know, he's calm, and he's 67 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:21.280 cooler head in terms of his leadership, and I think 68 00:03:21.319 --> 00:03:24.039 he has been working hard to strike this peace deal, 69 00:03:24.159 --> 00:03:27.240 which really we all know how peace would the radical 70 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:30.599 Islamis go, right, they promise peace, they vow peace, and 71 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:33.840 then they turn around and they don't honor their peace 72 00:03:33.960 --> 00:03:36.960 agreements anyhow. But at the same time, Trump has been 73 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:39.240 working hard toward this, and I think he you know, 74 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:40.800 he was just displaying. 75 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:42.039 His human side for a few seconds. 76 00:03:42.240 --> 00:03:44.919 Yeah, when it comes to the Democrat Party, you can 77 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:47.759 almost set a watch by them because they're so predictable 78 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:49.599 and the things they are going to do. And a 79 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:51.800 lot of Democrats are upset that they didn't get the 80 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:55.479 opportunity to leak to their favorite news outlet or social 81 00:03:55.520 --> 00:03:59.639 media influencer about Operation Midnight Hammer. They're complaining they should 82 00:03:59.639 --> 00:04:01.840 have been brief ahead of time. So let me ask 83 00:04:01.879 --> 00:04:05.599 you this, Cheryl, what type of wise counsel do you 84 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:08.759 think Trump would have received from the likes of Ocasio 85 00:04:08.879 --> 00:04:12.840 Cortes or maybe Jasmine Crocker or Jerry Nadler. What about 86 00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:16.920 Adam Schiff or the Chinese spy honeytrap lover Eric Swallows. 87 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:20.959 I'm sorry, Eric Swallwell, what kind of sage advice could 88 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:23.920 the Trumpster have received from this list of characters? 89 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:27.759 I think you just nailed it in what you were 90 00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:34.399 saying that Trump did not go through Democrat leadership and 91 00:04:35.279 --> 00:04:39.360 widely broadcast his intended strikes because he knows exactly what 92 00:04:39.399 --> 00:04:42.439 Democrats would have done. They would have run roughshot over 93 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:45.680 him politically and used that as a way to drum 94 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:49.680 up that he's a warmonger, he's breaking campaign promises, and 95 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:51.560 to pressure pressure, pressure. 96 00:04:51.560 --> 00:04:53.439 Him to back off helping Israel. 97 00:04:53.560 --> 00:04:56.959 And I think the fact that Trump was able to 98 00:04:58.079 --> 00:05:02.199 enact these strikes without lee to the media just shows 99 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:05.519 the people that he has surrounded himself with this time. 100 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:06.879 They are top notch. 101 00:05:07.040 --> 00:05:10.600 And you know, he hasn't broken any constitutional laws, he 102 00:05:10.600 --> 00:05:13.639 hasn't broken any War Powers Act. But you can see 103 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:17.959 how Democrats are just so furious and in its dizzy 104 00:05:18.120 --> 00:05:21.759 trying to label him with some impeachable offense once again. 105 00:05:22.079 --> 00:05:23.160 But it's not going to stick. 106 00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:27.040 Yeah, I mean for them, it is never America first. 107 00:05:27.360 --> 00:05:29.680 But when you look at again the political side of this, 108 00:05:29.759 --> 00:05:32.439 in the last few weeks, we've seen Trump and he 109 00:05:32.480 --> 00:05:35.360 has managed to He's managed to get Democrats to go 110 00:05:35.399 --> 00:05:41.279 on record as standing with illegal aliens, convicted criminals, drug dealers, murderers, 111 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:45.519 child sex traffickers and the like. He's now induced a 112 00:05:45.600 --> 00:05:49.279 number of hard left Trump hating Democrats to publicly declare 113 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:53.160 their sympathies to the world's biggest state sponsor of terrorism, Iran. 114 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:58.959 And so from a political standpoint, this to me borders 115 00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:01.040 on genius. If not more than that. 116 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:05.720 It is, and I think the American people see through 117 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:11.160 the desperation of the few Democrats who are out there. Uh, 118 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:16.240 Alexandria Casio Cortez perfect example, right, she couldn't get very quick. 119 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:22.079 Impeach, We got it, impeach her and Jasmine Crockett. 120 00:06:23.759 --> 00:06:25.079 There's such parents. 121 00:06:25.480 --> 00:06:28.199 They just keep parody in the same bullet points. 122 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:30.920 And I thought it was I thought it was a 123 00:06:30.959 --> 00:06:36.040 tremendous response that Trump put on truth social directed right 124 00:06:36.079 --> 00:06:40.480 at Alexandria Ocasio Cortes, calling out her ignorance and so forth, 125 00:06:40.519 --> 00:06:42.720 and more of that is needed. But I don't think 126 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:45.720 the American people are on board with these far leftists 127 00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:50.480 and these radicals who who just think that Trump waged 128 00:06:50.759 --> 00:06:53.680 erroneously into defending. 129 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:55.120 Israel with these with these attacks. 130 00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:57.959 Because I happen to be one of those conservatives who 131 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:02.399 are on board completely with the America's assault on the 132 00:07:02.519 --> 00:07:03.879 nuclear sites in Iran. 133 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:06.879 Yeah, let's talk about that for a second. My buddy 134 00:07:06.920 --> 00:07:10.639 Jim faff from the Conservative Caucus texted earlier or put 135 00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:15.839 on his exccount earlier today that if you think this 136 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:19.000 is a leg the dog relationship with Israel, you are 137 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:21.680 quite incorrect. And that was I think one of the 138 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:24.639 narratives that the left was trying to spend that beating 139 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:28.240 Netan Yahoo was the one that manipulated Trump into this 140 00:07:28.319 --> 00:07:31.000 position instead of the other way around. And I think 141 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:33.879 what we witnessed this morning puts an end to that notion, 142 00:07:33.959 --> 00:07:34.279 don't you. 143 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:38.759 I do. And I actually think that this was just 144 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:45.000 it was the perfect circumstances in time to directly attack Iran, 145 00:07:45.079 --> 00:07:47.920 both from Israel's standpoint because they have a strong leader 146 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:50.480 in the White House, and from the White House to 147 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:55.519 standpoint because we have Republican domination in Congress and we 148 00:07:55.639 --> 00:07:59.120 have a strong will of the people to support Israel 149 00:07:59.240 --> 00:08:00.160 and support. 150 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:00.759 All things Trump. 151 00:08:00.839 --> 00:08:05.600 And it bothers me when I see some some notable 152 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:09.720 Republicans and conservative figures, ones who I have respected over 153 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:15.600 the years, decry Trump's entry into this military assault and 154 00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:18.680 talk about him as if he's a warmonger and call 155 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:22.040 it a preemptive strike on the part of Israel against Iran. 156 00:08:22.519 --> 00:08:25.879 I was just doing research before our discussion, Dan, And 157 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:29.439 you know, back in twenty twenty three March twenty twenty three, 158 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:35.039 then Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin went before the Senate Armed 159 00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:40.679 Services Committee and told those senators that Iran has directly 160 00:08:40.759 --> 00:08:47.120 attacked US soldiers eighty three times between January twenty twenty 161 00:08:47.159 --> 00:08:49.840 one and when he made that when he was in 162 00:08:49.879 --> 00:08:54.240 that hearing, so eighty three times I ran directly attacked 163 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:58.200 American troops. And that's from the Democrat. So to say 164 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:02.480 that this is preemptive, that America has no standing in 165 00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:06.639 this game, that we have no right to attack Iran, well, 166 00:09:06.679 --> 00:09:08.159 it's defensive on our part. 167 00:09:08.279 --> 00:09:10.320 It's not preemptive. It's defensive. 168 00:09:10.519 --> 00:09:10.720 Yeah. 169 00:09:10.960 --> 00:09:14.840 I wonder if Democrats even concern themselves with the fact 170 00:09:14.879 --> 00:09:18.039 that the Internet exists. That video exists, and it goes 171 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:21.519 back several years. And when I was getting ready for 172 00:09:21.559 --> 00:09:24.480 this interview today, I was thinking, maybe I'll roll some 173 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:28.120 audio of Obama talking about when he ordered an airstrike 174 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:31.080 in Libya, or maybe an airstrike in Pakistan, or maybe 175 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:35.559 Yemen or so maliars a rack in twenty fourteen, in 176 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:39.000 twenty fourteen to twenty sixteen, all these places, all these 177 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:43.320 things saying almost exactly word for word what Trump had said. 178 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:46.840 And I don't recall all the handwringing, all the constitutional 179 00:09:46.919 --> 00:09:50.639 crisis narratives, you know, all this, you know needs to 180 00:09:50.639 --> 00:09:53.519 be impeached talk on either side of the aisle when 181 00:09:53.559 --> 00:09:56.519 Obama was doing this kind of stuff. So it really 182 00:09:56.519 --> 00:10:01.559 boils down to I think just Trump arrangement syndrome and 183 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:04.279 the dislike and if I may use a strong word, 184 00:10:04.320 --> 00:10:08.279 hatred for Donald Trump compared to other men who have 185 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:09.080 been in the White House. 186 00:10:10.279 --> 00:10:13.960 And wasn't Barack Obama the president that used a drone 187 00:10:14.039 --> 00:10:17.200 to murder an American citizens overseas? 188 00:10:17.320 --> 00:10:17.480 Right? 189 00:10:17.639 --> 00:10:19.200 I mean, let's not forget that. 190 00:10:19.240 --> 00:10:22.840 Lad was every day he'd get up and look at 191 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:24.559 his kill list and say, yeah, I hit this, this, 192 00:10:24.559 --> 00:10:27.759 this what the drone strike? And where was the constitutional 193 00:10:27.799 --> 00:10:28.480 authority for that? 194 00:10:29.600 --> 00:10:33.080 Exactly? And it is it's completely anti Trump. 195 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:37.399 But really on this matter, right, uh, John Fetterman is 196 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:40.200 actually rising above his Democrat party. 197 00:10:39.960 --> 00:10:43.080 To prove that he is, uh, you know, worthy of 198 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:45.679 his position. I wasn't a big Fetterman. 199 00:10:45.360 --> 00:10:48.960 Fan, but when when he was running his campaign, but 200 00:10:49.039 --> 00:10:51.519 now that he's in office, his stance and his statements 201 00:10:51.559 --> 00:10:56.240 on Israel and America and uh, waging a war against 202 00:10:56.320 --> 00:11:00.519 Iran the terrorists, he's really proving a himself to be 203 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:03.679 a good Democrat senator, someone you can actually have a 204 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:07.200 common sense discussion with and the fact that the Democrat 205 00:11:07.240 --> 00:11:13.360 Party chance even distance themselves from radical Islamic terrorists. 206 00:11:12.919 --> 00:11:15.840 To support America just shows how far off kilter this 207 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:18.279 party is from America's wishes. 208 00:11:17.840 --> 00:11:21.519 Well, And that goes back to I think the standard 209 00:11:21.559 --> 00:11:26.120 Democrat playbook is that they are incapable of recognizing fact. 210 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:30.639 They're incapable of recognizing truth and acknowledging truth in these 211 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:34.399 issues and what is in the best interest of America, 212 00:11:34.639 --> 00:11:37.879 because as I have said for many years now, the 213 00:11:37.919 --> 00:11:43.039 agenda trumps everything. The agenda, their agenda is more important 214 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:45.639 than anything else, and if you're not on board with that, 215 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:49.480 then you are a persona non grad And that's why 216 00:11:49.519 --> 00:11:53.120 I think Fetterman is an interesting case in his case, 217 00:11:53.159 --> 00:11:58.159 because he's got at least the convictions of his own thoughts, 218 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:01.480 in his own mind to to speak truth when he 219 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:02.320 can see it plainly. 220 00:12:04.039 --> 00:12:04.360 Well. 221 00:12:04.399 --> 00:12:10.399 You know, throughout history, Marxists have aligned themselves with the 222 00:12:10.639 --> 00:12:14.759 radical element of the Muslim faith right, the radical Islamic terrorists, 223 00:12:15.000 --> 00:12:17.240 they've aligned themselves, and if you look at what's taking 224 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:22.080 place now in the Democrat Party, it's essentially become infiltrated 225 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:26.720 by Marxist ideologies. So In that sense, it does make 226 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:32.399 logical reasoning why the Democrats are reluctant to stand by 227 00:12:32.440 --> 00:12:37.840 Donald Trump as he tries to eradicate the radical Islamis 228 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:41.000 in Iran. So you know, it's just another case of 229 00:12:41.039 --> 00:12:44.759 the Marxist and the Democrat Party trying to work. 230 00:12:44.519 --> 00:12:48.159 With the far leftist forces of the world, the ones 231 00:12:48.200 --> 00:12:49.559 that are anti American. 232 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:54.600 Do you find it rich that Elizabeth Warren was saying 233 00:12:54.639 --> 00:12:59.159 Tromp acted unconstitutionally and she was very concerned about lives 234 00:12:59.200 --> 00:13:02.440 that might be lost because of the actions of Donald Trump, 235 00:13:02.519 --> 00:13:06.120 while she's standing behind a podium that reads planned parenthood. 236 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:09.559 Do you find that slightly ironic at all? 237 00:13:11.159 --> 00:13:11.399 Yeah? 238 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:14.799 Isn't that Elizabeth Warren is sort of the gift that 239 00:13:14.919 --> 00:13:18.240 keeps on giving for conservative pundons. 240 00:13:17.840 --> 00:13:20.519 Right, I mean, every day there's some faith. 241 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:27.600 Unbelievable. Cheryl Chumley of The Washington Times. Before I let 242 00:13:27.679 --> 00:13:31.240 you go, another story that broke this week, just yesterday, 243 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:33.799 as a matter of fact, that has been put way, way, 244 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:36.600 way on the back burner because of the current news cycle. 245 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:42.000 Sixty kids found in Florida during the largest rescue effort 246 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:45.120 in US history. The Florida Attorney General came out and 247 00:13:45.120 --> 00:13:48.200 made this announcement that this is an operation I believe 248 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:50.559 Dragon and I was the name of the operation, and 249 00:13:50.559 --> 00:13:54.000 it's been going on for weeks now, and these kids 250 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:57.200 were rescued from some of the most horrendous circumstances you 251 00:13:57.240 --> 00:14:00.240 can possibly imagine. It's just the beginning I think of 252 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:03.279 starting down this road. But I think this is something 253 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:06.399 that really should be more of a front burner issue. 254 00:14:06.519 --> 00:14:08.600 And have we not had the circumstances that we have 255 00:14:08.679 --> 00:14:11.519 that we were just talking about. I think I certainly 256 00:14:11.519 --> 00:14:14.919 hope that a story like this would be a bigger writem. 257 00:14:14.559 --> 00:14:15.000 In the news. 258 00:14:16.559 --> 00:14:19.080 I agree totally, And it's really just a drop in 259 00:14:19.120 --> 00:14:22.600 the bucket to you know, the thousands of missing kids that. 260 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:26.600 We heard about under the Joe Biden administration. So hopefully 261 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:27.360 more to come. 262 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:31.399 Yeah, and hopefully we'll see it more headlines like that, 263 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:35.600 and maybe when all this settles down, this particular story 264 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:38.639 will get more of the attention that it certainly deserves. 265 00:14:38.840 --> 00:14:41.679 Cheryl Chumley as always great having you on the time 266 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:45.000 always flies right by, but your insight on this you 267 00:14:45.080 --> 00:14:50.320 have fulfilled. You have fulfilled your mission in an outstanding 268 00:14:50.320 --> 00:14:52.360 way this morning, and I thank you for that, and 269 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:55.639 I certainly wish you all the best and you know, 270 00:14:56.279 --> 00:14:58.919 continue to success with all the books you're writing and 271 00:14:59.000 --> 00:14:59.639 everything else. 272 00:15:00.679 --> 00:15:02.240 Thank you. Dan talkson all. 273 00:15:02.200 --> 00:15:05.559 Right, Yes we will Cheryl Chumley from the Washington Times, 274 00:15:05.639 --> 00:15:08.000 and I appreciate her being here. Up next, we'll speak 275 00:15:08.039 --> 00:15:10.679 with Adam Bird about marijuana laws here in Ohio, and 276 00:15:10.720 --> 00:15:13.320 then we will continue on between now at three o'clock 277 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:16.799 with more conversation about what is happening with Israel and 278 00:15:16.840 --> 00:15:19.200 Iran and Trump and all the rest of it. As 279 00:15:19.440 --> 00:15:22.120 we fill in for Bill Cunningham today, Dan Carolyn for 280 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:35.240 Bill Cunningham on seven hundred WLW seven hundred WLW twelve 281 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:38.759 thirty nine, Dan Carolyn for the great American Bill Cunningham. 282 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:42.159 Great conversation with Cheryl Chumley in the first half hour. 283 00:15:42.159 --> 00:15:44.399 I want to thank her for being here as always, 284 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:48.919 just fantastic. Now we switch gears a little bit and 285 00:15:49.639 --> 00:15:52.360 back in November of twenty three, Ohio became the twenty 286 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:56.679 fourth state to legalize adult use cannabis, fifty seven percent 287 00:15:56.720 --> 00:16:01.879 of voters voting in favor of issue known as the 288 00:16:01.919 --> 00:16:05.120 Act to Control and Regulate Adult Use Cannabis and now 289 00:16:05.600 --> 00:16:10.480 state Republicans here in Ohio may pass a plan to 290 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:16.840 pass marijuana restrictions by the end of June. Joining us 291 00:16:16.840 --> 00:16:19.200 now is State Rep. Adam Bird and State Rep. Aden Bird. 292 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:20.799 Great to have you on the show again. How are 293 00:16:20.799 --> 00:16:22.879 you today? How's everything on Columbus, Dan? 294 00:16:24.120 --> 00:16:28.120 Dan, it's budget season and we've got a very active week. 295 00:16:28.399 --> 00:16:30.799 We'll go on reset starting in July. But we've got 296 00:16:30.799 --> 00:16:34.519 a very hefty lift in front of us on the 297 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:37.519 budget and we have a House pass version, we have 298 00:16:37.559 --> 00:16:40.240 a centate pass version, and we've got to rectifive the 299 00:16:40.279 --> 00:16:43.039 eight hundred and fifty points of difference between the two chambers, 300 00:16:43.080 --> 00:16:44.600 and we've got to get that done by tomorrow. 301 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:47.960 Eft of difference. 302 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:49.919 Correct. 303 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:51.799 That sounds like a lot. The staff's going to be 304 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:52.600 working overtime. 305 00:16:54.440 --> 00:16:58.039 We've got a lot to do, and we've got constitutionally, 306 00:16:58.120 --> 00:16:59.600 we have a deadline to get that done by the 307 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:03.639 end of June, and so but we're going in reality, 308 00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:05.319 we're going to try to get that done by tomorrow. 309 00:17:05.559 --> 00:17:06.000 All right? 310 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:13.079 To have Ohio Republicans worked on the marijuana issue today, Dan. 311 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:14.920 There's been a lot of work on this over the 312 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:17.440 last couple of months, but then it passed a version 313 00:17:17.519 --> 00:17:20.599 called Center Bill fifty six. It's over in the House 314 00:17:20.680 --> 00:17:25.319 right now, and we were tentatively scheduled to vote on 315 00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:31.240 some changes to the Senate version today, but that has 316 00:17:31.279 --> 00:17:33.759 in the last twelve hours fallen apart a little bit. 317 00:17:34.079 --> 00:17:36.319 But I can still go through the bill with you 318 00:17:36.400 --> 00:17:39.119 and talk about the issues that are in contention between 319 00:17:40.279 --> 00:17:41.400 different versions of the bill. 320 00:17:41.599 --> 00:17:43.680 Yeah, I was going to ask it, because, look, the 321 00:17:43.960 --> 00:17:46.880 marijuana law is really an issue that I don't have 322 00:17:46.920 --> 00:17:51.319 a dog in this fight, because personally, I can't remember 323 00:17:51.319 --> 00:17:54.640 the last time I even saw adobie or a joint 324 00:17:54.720 --> 00:17:58.319 or anything having to do with marijuana. I don't use 325 00:17:58.359 --> 00:18:03.160 it myself rec relation, creationally or medicinally. So my thought 326 00:18:03.359 --> 00:18:06.839 on this has always been if if adults who want 327 00:18:06.920 --> 00:18:10.480 to make that decision to use marijuana do it in 328 00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:13.559 a responsible way, then I don't I don't see that 329 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:15.319 as any skin off of my nose. If they want 330 00:18:15.319 --> 00:18:17.279 to pay their harder money and pay the taxes that 331 00:18:17.319 --> 00:18:19.880 go along with it and everything else, by all means 332 00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:22.240 I say, I say, do your own thing, just don't 333 00:18:22.279 --> 00:18:25.480 inflict any harm on anyone else, and certainly, by all means, 334 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:28.440 leave the kids out of it. But when when where 335 00:18:28.519 --> 00:18:31.680 was Adam Bird on the on the initial UH marijuana 336 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:33.799 law that that passed here in Ohio. 337 00:18:35.079 --> 00:18:37.799 I voted No one issue too, and I wasn't in 338 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:40.720 favor of that, but obviously the voter spoke and it's 339 00:18:40.759 --> 00:18:43.519 in law right now. And and so I think it's 340 00:18:43.559 --> 00:18:47.160 it's really important though for us as legislators to to 341 00:18:47.279 --> 00:18:50.839 pass some things, uh, some regulations around that we're not 342 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:53.519 trying to take away with the voters socided, but we 343 00:18:53.599 --> 00:18:57.319 have we we do think that it's sensible to pass 344 00:18:57.359 --> 00:19:02.599 some regulations that protect adult use, that protect our children, 345 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:06.720 that uh, that limit public use of it, that that 346 00:19:06.880 --> 00:19:10.799 protect a tax structure and and uh. And that's that's 347 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:12.839 a lot of what's in the build. There's also something 348 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:16.799 in the build Dan about hemp use in the hemp industry, 349 00:19:17.039 --> 00:19:19.680 which wasn't part of issue too, but it is a 350 00:19:19.799 --> 00:19:23.680 growing industry uh in America, and we were trying to 351 00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:27.759 bring bring some regulations to all of those. And so 352 00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:29.519 that's that's kind of where we're at right now. 353 00:19:29.640 --> 00:19:32.079 Yeah, there's some of the arguments that I've heard on this, 354 00:19:32.599 --> 00:19:34.880 and Scott Sloan talks about this. You may have been 355 00:19:34.920 --> 00:19:38.400 on the Scottslane talk show talking about this in the past. 356 00:19:38.640 --> 00:19:40.480 But I've heard a lot of people make the arguments 357 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:43.480 that this is a bait and switch sort of thing 358 00:19:43.519 --> 00:19:45.640 where you got, you know, all these people to vote 359 00:19:45.640 --> 00:19:49.000 in favor of this, and then along come those power 360 00:19:49.079 --> 00:19:52.079 hungry Republicans and they want to take the reins on 361 00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:55.599 this and and sort of micromanage every you know, every 362 00:19:55.880 --> 00:20:00.160 issue that goes along with the with the marijuana laws. 363 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:02.880 Well, I would disagree with that, Dan, and I know 364 00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:05.839 that there are people who want to believe that lie. 365 00:20:06.079 --> 00:20:10.880 But it's a come incumbent upon the legislature to bring 366 00:20:10.920 --> 00:20:16.160 about some rational regulations, some sensible regulations. Now, we're not 367 00:20:16.200 --> 00:20:19.400 trying to take away from the people's ability to utilize 368 00:20:19.400 --> 00:20:22.400 the products that they've purchased on their own property. And 369 00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:27.839 that's so this bill, Centable fifty six would allow private 370 00:20:27.880 --> 00:20:30.880 citizens to utilize that product's purchase, but it has to 371 00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:35.279 be at a licensed dispensary. There's limited youth sharing on 372 00:20:35.920 --> 00:20:40.039 private residential property. It also gives the Division of Cannabis 373 00:20:40.039 --> 00:20:44.440 Control necessary authority to regulate marijuana, and so there has 374 00:20:44.519 --> 00:20:47.680 to be some regulation around us because we want to 375 00:20:47.720 --> 00:20:52.599 protect our children from public smoking and intoxication. We want 376 00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:56.440 to prohibit our children from advertisements to target them. We 377 00:20:56.480 --> 00:20:58.839 want to protect our children from ads that are within 378 00:20:58.920 --> 00:21:01.880 five hundred feet of school and churches. And we also 379 00:21:01.960 --> 00:21:06.359 want to protect our children from ads targeted toward them 380 00:21:06.440 --> 00:21:11.160 and or packaging attracted to our children. So there's some 381 00:21:11.200 --> 00:21:15.079 really important and common sense things that the law needs 382 00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:18.559 to weigh in on, and issue too did not. 383 00:21:19.119 --> 00:21:22.839 Okay, So if this marijuana reform package does not get 384 00:21:22.880 --> 00:21:26.359 done today or by the end of June, what happens then, 385 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:29.839 is it? Do you tell me what happens after that? 386 00:21:31.279 --> 00:21:33.759 Absolutely? Well, let me tell you first why this broke 387 00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:36.240 down a little bit. Dan, there were a lot of 388 00:21:36.279 --> 00:21:40.119 people that was interested in keeping thirty six percent of 389 00:21:40.160 --> 00:21:44.519 the revenue generated from marijuana tax to the host community, 390 00:21:44.960 --> 00:21:48.039 and I think there was enough people that wanted that 391 00:21:48.279 --> 00:21:50.599 if that would not have inhibited the bill. The bill 392 00:21:50.680 --> 00:21:54.200 continues to exist in that version where local communities keep 393 00:21:54.240 --> 00:21:58.720 thirty six percent of the tax generated by its sale. 394 00:21:59.039 --> 00:22:01.519 The part where this has broken down is on the 395 00:22:01.559 --> 00:22:06.119 issue of him, and the governor is very concerned with this. 396 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:10.000 The Senate version was very concerned with him, and this 397 00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:15.599 is a growing sale area and there's very limited regulation 398 00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:19.200 around it, and so very concerned that that there are 399 00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:21.920 there are people out there that are selling him products 400 00:22:21.960 --> 00:22:25.400 to people under the age of twenty one, and they're 401 00:22:25.480 --> 00:22:29.559