WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.480 --> 00:00:08.119 Counting them down. Ready to go twenty twenty five, Here 2 00:00:08.160 --> 00:00:11.960 we come carry Jeff Walker in for Bill Cunningham, in 3 00:00:12.000 --> 00:00:14.480 for Willie on the Bill Cunningham Show on this New 4 00:00:14.560 --> 00:00:17.760 Year's Eve. It is a pleasure to be with you 5 00:00:17.920 --> 00:00:21.480 and to spend the waning moments of twenty twenty four 6 00:00:21.519 --> 00:00:23.320 with you. And I've got to agree with ken Brew, 7 00:00:24.079 --> 00:00:28.039 who is just done talking about the ridiculousness of the 8 00:00:28.120 --> 00:00:33.159 list that ABC News put out about the most important 9 00:00:33.200 --> 00:00:36.719 impactful events of the year that was twenty twenty four. 10 00:00:37.000 --> 00:00:42.000 If you do not mention the assassination attempts on Donald J. Trump, 11 00:00:42.719 --> 00:00:45.359 you're not covering the news and you're out of touch, 12 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:48.799 just like Kamala Harris and the Democrat Party, of which 13 00:00:49.159 --> 00:00:51.240 most of mainstream media, as we all know, is an 14 00:00:51.359 --> 00:00:57.159 arm of that party. And it's about time we cut 15 00:00:57.159 --> 00:01:03.439 the arm off when it comes to objectively reporting the facts. 16 00:01:04.319 --> 00:01:07.400 The Menendez brothers a second chance at life, that was 17 00:01:07.400 --> 00:01:11.879 one of their big stories. And what else the Alec 18 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:16.879 Baldwin trial. As if the year long persecution and prosecution 19 00:01:17.040 --> 00:01:19.159 of Donald Trump just to keep him off the ballot, 20 00:01:19.879 --> 00:01:22.000 I don't think that was on it. They might have 21 00:01:22.120 --> 00:01:26.159 mentioned he was a convicted felon. That would be ABC News. 22 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:30.239 But anyway, I'm just an aside there from what ken 23 00:01:30.280 --> 00:01:32.719 Brew was just talking about before the News at noon 24 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:36.719 in our first half hour. Another radio guy. I love 25 00:01:36.799 --> 00:01:41.200 radio guys. He is a national political analyst and host 26 00:01:41.200 --> 00:01:44.439 of a syndicated radio show called The Truth with John Gordon. 27 00:01:45.719 --> 00:01:50.079 He's a graduate at Mercer University Law School in Georgia, 28 00:01:50.200 --> 00:01:54.400 business owner, entrepreneur, and worked as a reporter and making 29 00:01:54.439 --> 00:01:57.959 in Atlanta. He ran as a Republican candidate to be 30 00:01:58.000 --> 00:02:01.599 George's Attorney General in twenty twenty two. Too endorsed by 31 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:06.799 the president elect or the candidate then, I guess Donald Trump? 32 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:13.000 Did Trump ever actually stop running? The last chapter of 33 00:02:13.199 --> 00:02:18.919 a Great American Story was written this past week with 34 00:02:19.039 --> 00:02:22.199 the passing of Jimmy Carter at the age of one hundred. 35 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:27.960 John actually was acquainted with the former president, the peanut 36 00:02:28.039 --> 00:02:31.439 farmer from Plains and man him at the age of fourteen. 37 00:02:31.479 --> 00:02:33.280 We'll find out about that and a lot more as 38 00:02:33.319 --> 00:02:35.960 we welcome John Gordon to the show. John, how are you. 39 00:02:37.240 --> 00:02:39.599 I'm great, Thank you, Happy New Year, and thanks for 40 00:02:39.639 --> 00:02:42.800 having me on. Like the things that you said and 41 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:45.280 the lead in up to this. You know, there's a 42 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:51.840 simple solution for ABC, just stop watching turn it off. 43 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:55.039 There's no question about that. And a lot of people 44 00:02:55.120 --> 00:03:01.800 have you saw the precipitous almost death nell drops for 45 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:05.919 MSNBC and CNN when they find when their listeners found 46 00:03:05.919 --> 00:03:09.039 out they'd been lied to all this time that Joe 47 00:03:09.039 --> 00:03:12.240 Biden was competent, Which kind of makes me wonder if 48 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:15.159 you're blaming the media for not knowing that Joe Biden 49 00:03:15.319 --> 00:03:18.719 was cognitively challenged and was not fit to be president 50 00:03:18.719 --> 00:03:21.800 of the United States, then you haven't been watching anything 51 00:03:21.919 --> 00:03:25.599 the last four years, much less mainstream media. Or to 52 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:29.159 think that Kamala Harris was going to bring joy and 53 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:33.080 unity at a new direction and generation to the Democrat 54 00:03:33.159 --> 00:03:38.080 Party when you're that inauthentic, I mean even a five 55 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:42.960 year old can tell your phony. So it's been coming 56 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:47.840 for a long time, John, the fall of these mainstream 57 00:03:47.919 --> 00:03:56.479 media legacy, basically their accomplices to Marxist globalist and the 58 00:03:56.520 --> 00:03:59.960 Democrat Party. And it's time that people are finally noticed 59 00:04:00.759 --> 00:04:03.039 and they are turning it off. Don't you think. 60 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:09.240 They're still absolutely And Dan Bongina's got more listeners than CNN, 61 00:04:09.919 --> 00:04:14.280 and you know, you talk about MSNBC, I call it 62 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:20.639 ms NBS. But Joe Scarborough and his lovely wife make 63 00:04:20.720 --> 00:04:25.000 the pilgrimage tomorrow Largo to kiss the Ring and talk 64 00:04:25.040 --> 00:04:28.360 about incompetence. So they had lost half their audience who 65 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:32.040 are for Trump, and so then they come and kiss 66 00:04:32.120 --> 00:04:35.360 the Ring with Trump and they go back to New 67 00:04:35.439 --> 00:04:38.240 York and they lose another half of their audience who 68 00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:41.720 didn't feel betrayed that they've sold out Trump. 69 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:43.639 So they just. 70 00:04:43.600 --> 00:04:46.480 Can't get it right, regardless of how well I mean, 71 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:49.920 Joe and Mika prove that it's possible to be on 72 00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:54.839 a national TV morning show and have the have the 73 00:04:54.879 --> 00:04:56.360 nervous system of a jellyfish. 74 00:04:56.439 --> 00:04:59.680 I mean, they did talk about zero spine. Well, John, 75 00:04:59.720 --> 00:05:05.240 I want to talk to you about about Jimmy, the 76 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:10.199 peanut farmer who became president, who had some very very 77 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:14.839 tumultuous things thrown at him, as all presidents wind up doing. 78 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:19.639 Somewhere in their tour term. There is a softball that 79 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:24.360 turns into a curveball and before you even know it, 80 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:26.680 it is dropping at the plate of the oval office 81 00:05:26.720 --> 00:05:29.279 and you're swinging and missing. And Jimmy had a lot 82 00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:33.240 of that, but it wasn't all on Carter. I don't 83 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:36.160 believe you say you met Jimmy Carter at the age 84 00:05:36.160 --> 00:05:38.600 of fourteen. I did. 85 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:40.839 I was a page at the Georgia Senate the day 86 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:45.639 that he was awarded the Outstanding Senator's Award, because he 87 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:48.720 had the reputation or was known for being one of 88 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:52.439 the only senators that actually read every single bill that 89 00:05:52.480 --> 00:05:55.399 he voted on, and so that was one of his strengths. 90 00:05:55.480 --> 00:05:57.959 But it was also one of his cursons when he 91 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:01.360 went to the White House, because when the Iranians took 92 00:06:01.360 --> 00:06:05.199 our hostages at the US embassy in tront Jimmy Carter 93 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:10.839 oversaw the mission to free the hostages, which resulted in 94 00:06:10.879 --> 00:06:14.920 two helicopters crashing in the desert and killing six or 95 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:20.759 seven of our Special Force men on the helicopters. But 96 00:06:20.920 --> 00:06:24.360 you know, Trump would have delegated that to the generals 97 00:06:24.360 --> 00:06:29.519 and admirals to have overseen, and so it was a strength, 98 00:06:29.560 --> 00:06:32.800 but it was also a weakness of his. I had 99 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:37.959 lunch one day with Donald Reagan, who was Reagan's Secretary 100 00:06:38.000 --> 00:06:43.720 of Treasury later chief of Staff. He was a smart, smart, 101 00:06:43.800 --> 00:06:47.120 tough bird, I'll tell you, and I asked him what 102 00:06:47.160 --> 00:06:51.240 it was like working for President Reagan, and he said 103 00:06:51.560 --> 00:06:53.759 it was the best job that he had ever had. 104 00:06:54.439 --> 00:06:57.920 And he said that not once did Reagan ever tell 105 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:01.360 him what to do. And he related a story that 106 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:03.399 he told Reagan one day, s you know, I've been 107 00:07:03.439 --> 00:07:06.360 Secretary of the Treasury for four years. You've never once 108 00:07:06.439 --> 00:07:13.040 called me and instructed me on anything. And Reagan responded, well, Don, 109 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:16.240 I just figured you knew more about running the Treasury 110 00:07:16.279 --> 00:07:19.079 than I did. And there's the contrast. 111 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:25.000 Reagan was the ultimate delegator for sure. He wasn't in 112 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:29.519 the weeds on any thing unless he absolutely had to be. 113 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:32.079 Uh have you seen the movie? Did you see the 114 00:07:32.079 --> 00:07:33.399 Reagan movie with Dennis Quaid? 115 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:37.800 I have not got it, John, John, I. 116 00:07:37.680 --> 00:07:42.639 Highly recommend went uh, thank you a few months back. 117 00:07:43.279 --> 00:07:46.240 And Dennis, and since you knew some of the players 118 00:07:47.240 --> 00:07:50.680 like Don Reagan, you will notice many many people in 119 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:55.079 that movie besides Ronald Reagan, which Dennis Quaid just plays 120 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:56.720 to a t. It's great. 121 00:07:57.079 --> 00:07:59.600 Yes, well, I look forward to watching it. So I 122 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:04.240 had the pleasure of visiting the White House about six 123 00:08:04.360 --> 00:08:11.800 or eight weeks before Carter exited, and I visited the 124 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:18.959 Oval Office, and it is an awe inspiring room, as 125 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:22.759 you can imagine. A month after Carter returned from the 126 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:26.639 White House, I visited him in Plains, Georgia, where I 127 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:32.840 took him a near word processor for him and Roslin 128 00:08:32.919 --> 00:08:36.399 to write their memoirs on, and we got to spend 129 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:40.320 the better part of the afternoon with him, And then 130 00:08:40.600 --> 00:08:45.200 we traveled to Miss Lilian's house, where President Carter set 131 00:08:45.279 --> 00:08:47.720 up his office and was going to write the memoirs. 132 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:52.639 The contrast between seeing the Oval office eight weeks before, 133 00:08:53.039 --> 00:08:56.879 nine weeks before, and then visiting this dark, dingy must 134 00:08:56.919 --> 00:09:01.759 be room for the former president was just surreal. But 135 00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:06.120 Carter was upbeat, he was gracious. It seemed to be 136 00:09:06.159 --> 00:09:09.799 in nowhere to go anywhere, and it was a really 137 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:13.039 delightful afternoon that I will always remember and cherish. 138 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:16.360 In his passing, many people are, of course, focusing as 139 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:20.279 they should, on the man himself, the entirety of his life, 140 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:23.919 because it was so full and so much more than 141 00:09:23.960 --> 00:09:27.679 the presidency. You think that Jimmy Carter ever really wanted 142 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:32.279 to be the president, especially after he got that prize. 143 00:09:34.360 --> 00:09:37.799 Oh, I very much think he wanted to be president. 144 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:41.279 He certainly worked as hard as anybody in the modern 145 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:44.879 era to become president. He lived in Iowa for two 146 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:48.240 years before the primary and really ushered in a new 147 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:51.559 way of running for president. And you may remember he 148 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:55.440 always carried his suitcase and his hanging bag over his shoulder, 149 00:09:55.960 --> 00:09:59.960 and he really people related to him and it was intentionally. 150 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:07.600 He was a smart and shrewd politician, but he inherited 151 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:10.159 a handful. And I'm not giving him a buy. I mean, 152 00:10:10.200 --> 00:10:13.279 he could have made other choices, like we were talking 153 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:16.039 about with the hostages. He could have let the generals 154 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:20.440 and admirals oversee the mission instead of raising interest rates. 155 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:23.240 For allowing the Federal Reserve to raise interest rates to 156 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:28.559 twenty one percent. Oh, that's true percent whip inflation. 157 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:34.639 Yeah, I mean, I mean unemployment and the percentage that 158 00:10:34.679 --> 00:10:38.399 you're talking about the interest rates. We're in double digits 159 00:10:38.919 --> 00:10:43.159 for an unpressed part a great part of his presidency. 160 00:10:44.159 --> 00:10:46.080 And so we're kind of right back there right now, 161 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:51.360 and we've got they've got options to policy makers. They 162 00:10:51.399 --> 00:10:57.919 can continue to use interest rates to regulate inflation, or 163 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:01.720 they do what Musk and Ramsby, just cut out a 164 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:02.559 third of the budget. 165 00:11:02.679 --> 00:11:03.960 Stop spending the money. 166 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:10.000 Baby, do you immediately stop inflation and ensure this out 167 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:12.200 of control federal government that we've got. 168 00:11:12.759 --> 00:11:14.879 Yeah, no doubt about it. What do you think about 169 00:11:14.879 --> 00:11:17.639 this fight that's brewing in the House of Representatives again 170 00:11:17.679 --> 00:11:21.960 with the speakership, especially at such a crucial time. If 171 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:25.759 there is no speaker in the House of Representatives this weekend, 172 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:28.000 how in the world do we get Donald J. Trump 173 00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:30.720 certified as the forty seventh president next Monday? 174 00:11:32.320 --> 00:11:35.600 That I don't know. I think there's probably a mechanism 175 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:38.600 by which it can happen. I mean, Trump was elected 176 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:42.440 by the largest margin of any Republican president and the 177 00:11:42.480 --> 00:11:46.799 popular vote of the modern era at least, and swept 178 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:51.000 the Electoral College. They cannot deny him certification of the presidency. 179 00:11:51.080 --> 00:11:54.000 So I think the question we need to be focused 180 00:11:54.039 --> 00:11:56.919 on is whether mc johnson is the right person for 181 00:11:56.960 --> 00:11:57.679 the job. 182 00:11:57.879 --> 00:11:58.639 I like him. 183 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:02.039 I don't know him, but I like his persona. I 184 00:12:02.120 --> 00:12:07.240 respect the fact that he's a very devout Christian. There's 185 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:09.600 a lot of very good things you can say about him. 186 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:15.320 But he passed another continuing resolution and they are continuing 187 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:19.120 to expand the national debt. When are the adults going 188 00:12:19.200 --> 00:12:22.799 to show up in the room. It's not sustainable and 189 00:12:22.840 --> 00:12:26.039 it's going to come crashing down around us at some 190 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:30.360 point without notice, and it will be self induced. And 191 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:34.039 that's my complaint. We need someone strong enough and smart 192 00:12:34.120 --> 00:12:38.480 enough that they can galvanize the members of Congress to 193 00:12:38.600 --> 00:12:41.679 stop the lunacy and get this budget under control. 194 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:45.240 Listen, Nancy Pelosi had no problem pulling the Democrats together 195 00:12:45.320 --> 00:12:49.399 to pursue their agenda. And whether you like their agenda 196 00:12:49.559 --> 00:12:52.759 or not, you've got to give them credit. Every time 197 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:57.080 it seems recently that the Republicans are in charge and 198 00:12:57.120 --> 00:13:01.120 they have a majority, it doesn't matter how how large 199 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:05.559 or slim it is, they get absolutely zero done that 200 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:08.320 they've promised on the campaign trail. This was a very 201 00:13:08.399 --> 00:13:12.039 clear message that the voters sent November. The nonsense has 202 00:13:12.080 --> 00:13:16.320 got to stop. We've got to get inflation down, we've 203 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:18.799 got to get prices down, we've got to get our 204 00:13:19.000 --> 00:13:23.039 energy stocks back up and running at full speed. And 205 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:27.720 none of this happens if you don't have a Congress 206 00:13:27.799 --> 00:13:32.480 that's competent to not only not just kick the can 207 00:13:32.519 --> 00:13:38.399 and piss pass continuing resolutions foudy and slipped there or so. 208 00:13:38.559 --> 00:13:41.879 I mean, you know, and you get what I'm saying. 209 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:45.519 Everybody knows absolutely. 210 00:13:45.639 --> 00:13:50.320 I mean, I fervently believe that there is a deep state, 211 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:54.679 that there's a shadow government. Certainly, I've written an article 212 00:13:54.679 --> 00:13:56.840 and op ed piece called the New State versus the 213 00:13:56.840 --> 00:14:00.919 Deep State and the special interest of got a stranglehold 214 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:04.960 on our politicians and our government. I suspect that it 215 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:08.799 is deeper than that, and that there is bribery and 216 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:13.519 corruption and blackmail that is taking place. I've had people 217 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:17.080 within the government and people that are high up in 218 00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:20.720 the national media tell me that they know factually that 219 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:25.600 those things are the case. And I just wonder who 220 00:14:25.679 --> 00:14:31.039 the puppet master is, who is controlling this and to 221 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:33.919 what end, because it seems like if they want to 222 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:36.720 destroy our country, that this is a perfect way to 223 00:14:36.759 --> 00:14:37.399 go about it. 224 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:43.360 Well, certainly, and a lot a lot less messy than 225 00:14:43.480 --> 00:14:46.039 just a full on blood bath and the takeover by 226 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:49.960 the communist Chinese or whomever. And you look at the 227 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:53.720 debt that we owe to China, and you look at 228 00:14:53.759 --> 00:14:56.759 our financial situation with thirty six and a half trillion 229 00:14:56.799 --> 00:14:59.440 dollars in debt as a country. You look at the 230 00:14:59.519 --> 00:15:04.960 divisiveiness of Congress and the games that they play, and 231 00:15:04.279 --> 00:15:08.679 I have to almost believe that it's the person who 232 00:15:08.799 --> 00:15:11.559 pulled the strings behind getting Obama in the office in 233 00:15:11.600 --> 00:15:13.600 the first place. Whomever that is. 234 00:15:14.399 --> 00:15:17.519 I almost have to agree with you. But do you 235 00:15:17.559 --> 00:15:21.440 talk about China. I worry about China. Christopher Ray says 236 00:15:21.639 --> 00:15:24.360 that China is the biggest threat that this country is 237 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:24.840 faced with. 238 00:15:25.080 --> 00:15:27.480 Well, Christopher Ray says and does a lot of things 239 00:15:27.480 --> 00:15:30.480 that have proved to be not so. Never convinced me 240 00:15:30.519 --> 00:15:30.799 of that. 241 00:15:30.960 --> 00:15:34.080 I am no fan, but you know, even a blondeig 242 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:36.440 will find an acorn. I think that on this point 243 00:15:36.720 --> 00:15:39.720 he is being truthful with us. We know there're ten 244 00:15:39.759 --> 00:15:43.639 thousand military age fit Chinese men that have come across 245 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:47.080 the southern border. That doesn't happen by accident. No one 246 00:15:47.200 --> 00:15:49.080 leaves China without permission from the government. 247 00:15:49.120 --> 00:15:52.399 It's never happened. It's never happened before in the history 248 00:15:52.440 --> 00:15:55.320 of our country and immigration, except maybe when we were 249 00:15:55.320 --> 00:15:58.840 building the railroad and we were importing Chinese to help, 250 00:15:59.440 --> 00:16:02.600 you know, across that western passage. 251 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:03.759 One hundred percent. 252 00:16:03.840 --> 00:16:05.519 And then you look at the amount of fentanol that 253 00:16:05.639 --> 00:16:09.120 is flowing floated across the southern border, and the fact 254 00:16:09.120 --> 00:16:12.840 that we've got spy balloons traversing our country, and Biden, 255 00:16:13.039 --> 00:16:16.240 the courageous leader that he is shoots it down over 256 00:16:16.279 --> 00:16:19.240 the Atlantic after the mission is complete. Oh he's the 257 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:23.399 same guy that took three million from a CCP related company. 258 00:16:23.840 --> 00:16:27.480 So I think we've got Trump's got his hands full, 259 00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:31.399 and he has assembled an army of fighters and warriors. 260 00:16:32.159 --> 00:16:34.840 I hope they have the resolve and the integrity to 261 00:16:34.840 --> 00:16:35.399 get it done. 262 00:16:35.559 --> 00:16:38.320 John Gordon, John Gordon, I believe they do too. We 263 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:42.519 shall see, as Trump is famous for saying, well, we'll 264 00:16:42.519 --> 00:16:46.480 see John Gordon in the last and I've got less 265 00:16:46.480 --> 00:16:50.200 than sixty seconds here right at that point, give me 266 00:16:50.559 --> 00:16:53.200 a quick eulogy for Jimmy Carter as we close out. 267 00:16:54.720 --> 00:16:58.960 I think Jimmy Carter was probably the most ethical moral 268 00:16:59.120 --> 00:17:03.039 present of my lifetime. I think that he was a 269 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:08.640 tremendous person post presidency, and I also had the pleasure 270 00:17:08.839 --> 00:17:11.160 of knowing and working with his wife in the mental 271 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:14.519 health field, where I volunteered for thirty years in Atlanta. 272 00:17:15.079 --> 00:17:20.440 She was a wonderful, genuine human being. They will be missed, 273 00:17:20.720 --> 00:17:23.599 and they're an inspiration. They should be an inspiration for 274 00:17:23.759 --> 00:17:26.839 every listener here today on how to live your life. 275 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:31.319 They gave to others and took very little for themselves. 276 00:17:32.039 --> 00:17:34.079 That's uh, I don't know if you can say anything 277 00:17:34.079 --> 00:17:37.240 better about Anyboddy John Gordon, thank you so much, and 278 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:39.400 I hope we have the chance to chat again. It's fun. 279 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:41.960 I would look forward to that. Thank you so much, 280 00:17:41.960 --> 00:17:42.559 and Happy New. 281 00:17:42.519 --> 00:17:46.480 Year, Happy New Year as we continue. Kennethan Bramlewitz. I 282 00:17:46.519 --> 00:17:49.519 don't even know who he is. We'll find out together 283 00:17:50.039 --> 00:17:52.480 after the news break. Gary jeff Infer Willie on the 284 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:56.839 Bill Cunningham Show on seven hundred w l W chick 285 00:17:56.920 --> 00:17:59.880 Tik Tik tik tik tik tick counting down the hour 286 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:03.640 and the minutes and the seconds to twenty twenty five 287 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:07.720 and what will the new year look like? Nobody knows, 288 00:18:07.880 --> 00:18:10.519 God knows. But that's about it. Here's a guy who 289 00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:14.440 thinks he has some ideas just based on what is 290 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:19.000 happening right now in twenty twenty four. Kenneth Abramowitz is 291 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:22.519 a national security threat analyst, author of the Multi Front War, 292 00:18:23.319 --> 00:18:28.480 Defending America from Political Islam, China, Russia, pandemics, and racial Strife. 293 00:18:28.920 --> 00:18:31.119 He left out lions and tigers and bears while he 294 00:18:31.240 --> 00:18:37.039 was at it. And we're talking not just about Israel, 295 00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:41.039 but of course about Western society itself. He is a 296 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:46.480 founder of a website to save Western civilization actually from itself, 297 00:18:46.559 --> 00:18:50.359 in his words, Savethethwest dot com. And he is our 298 00:18:50.440 --> 00:18:53.319 guest now, Kennethan Bramowitz, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. 299 00:18:53.640 --> 00:18:55.319 It's Gary Jeffin for Willie today. 300 00:18:57.200 --> 00:18:57.880 Great to be with you. 301 00:18:58.279 --> 00:19:02.000 Oh fantastic to him here now before we get into 302 00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:06.279 the chaos that may lie ahead. In twenty twenty five. 303 00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:09.799 You're also a managing general partner and co founder of 304 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:14.319 MNGN Capital, which is a worldwide healthcare venture capital fund. 305 00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:17.880 You were at the Carlisle Group in New York focusing 306 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:22.200 on the us biout opportunities in the healthcare industry. Just 307 00:19:22.319 --> 00:19:29.000 your thoughts on how the public views healthcare after the 308 00:19:29.119 --> 00:19:33.200 assassination of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson in New York 309 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:38.599 and the ensuing arrest of the young man who was 310 00:19:39.240 --> 00:19:44.359 allegedly responsible for it, and some of that reaction where 311 00:19:44.640 --> 00:19:48.240 Luigi Mangioni is now some kind of folk hero in 312 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:53.519 some of the public's eyes. Are you worried for other 313 00:19:53.680 --> 00:19:57.920 healthcare people, people involved in the healthcare industry being blamed 314 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:02.319 and just just how did you view all of the 315 00:20:02.400 --> 00:20:04.039 all of that curious. 316 00:20:05.839 --> 00:20:11.119 Yes, people have a love love hate relationship with insurance companies. 317 00:20:11.759 --> 00:20:15.359 And when when you have a claim and it gets 318 00:20:15.400 --> 00:20:19.359 paid you you so to speak, love the insurance company 319 00:20:19.480 --> 00:20:23.319 because they pay for your heart surgery whatever. On the 320 00:20:23.400 --> 00:20:26.559 other hand, if you have some procedure that they give 321 00:20:26.599 --> 00:20:29.680 you a hard time with, they they they want you 322 00:20:29.759 --> 00:20:32.599 to go from your primary care doctor to your specialists. 323 00:20:33.000 --> 00:20:38.000 They want specialists to provide some report and and and 324 00:20:38.279 --> 00:20:40.599 and whatever it is gets delayed from month and people 325 00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:44.319 hate the insurance company. So, uh, it goes back and 326 00:20:44.480 --> 00:20:48.480 forth depending upon how people are treated. Uh. But the 327 00:20:49.920 --> 00:20:54.119 the insurance companies are are you know, you only have 328 00:20:54.200 --> 00:20:57.240 two choices. Either the insurance companies cover you or the 329 00:20:57.279 --> 00:21:02.279 government covers you. In companies, they're private companies, so you 330 00:21:02.359 --> 00:21:06.559 can complain, you can switch companies. You the hotline to 331 00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:09.480 call when you have a government insurance and they don't 332 00:21:09.519 --> 00:21:12.640 pay who you're going to call. So people don't understand 333 00:21:12.680 --> 00:21:15.920 they're much better off getting insurance through an insurance company 334 00:21:16.319 --> 00:21:21.960 than through an uncaring, bureaucratically run government. 335 00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:25.559 On that, do you believe that the passage of what 336 00:21:25.680 --> 00:21:29.920 I call the Unaffordable Careless Act, where Obamacare has made 337 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:35.960 this even worse because of the mandates. Well, the. 338 00:21:39.279 --> 00:21:42.119 Obamacare is to take care of the people will fall 339 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:45.119 through the cracks, and about ten percent of the people 340 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:49.640 were falling through the cracks. So I don't blame I 341 00:21:49.759 --> 00:21:56.240 don't blame the government or Obama or future subsequent presence 342 00:21:56.799 --> 00:22:01.160 fulfilling those gaps. The trouble they ran into is they 343 00:22:02.119 --> 00:22:07.559 wanted to maintain community rating, which means high prices for everybody, 344 00:22:08.279 --> 00:22:11.400 including people who aren't sick. So you have a situation 345 00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:14.440 where a twenty five year old is paying the same 346 00:22:14.680 --> 00:22:18.279 premium who's not very sick, paying the same premium as 347 00:22:18.279 --> 00:22:22.480 a sixty year old, and so therefore the twenty five 348 00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:25.319 year old says, this is too expensive. I'm paying the 349 00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:28.119 side price they're forcing me to pay it. There's huge 350 00:22:28.160 --> 00:22:31.599 deductibles and co payments. I'm not getting very good health 351 00:22:31.680 --> 00:22:36.599 insurance coverage. I hate Obamacare. On that hand, someone who's 352 00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:43.079 sixty who says, oh, I stopped working, I'm using Obamacare 353 00:22:43.160 --> 00:22:47.359 to cover me till i'm sixty five for Medicare. Obamacare 354 00:22:47.440 --> 00:22:50.359 is wonderful because I couldn't have got health insurance otherwise 355 00:22:50.680 --> 00:22:53.680 I had all these pre existing illnesses. So it's again 356 00:22:53.799 --> 00:22:57.119 that love hate relationship. It depends who you are, and 357 00:22:58.559 --> 00:23:02.759 that determines how happy you're unhappy you are. But in general, 358 00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:06.039 I'm a big fan of health insurance companies, and I'm 359 00:23:06.079 --> 00:23:09.319 the big fan of competition because that's how you keep 360 00:23:09.359 --> 00:23:12.759 insurance companies honest, because you can walk with your feet 361 00:23:13.079 --> 00:23:14.640 a year later if you're not happy. 362 00:23:14.880 --> 00:23:18.200 Certainly, talking with Kenneth Abramowitz, author of The Multi Front War, 363 00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:22.920 Defending America from Political Islam, China, Russia, pandemics, and racial strife, 364 00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:25.960 seems like an awful lot on the plate for incoming 365 00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:28.279 President Donald J. Trump. Do you think he's up for 366 00:23:28.359 --> 00:23:29.440 the job, Kenneth. 367 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:36.920 Oh, he's up to the job, but he's the multiplicity 368 00:23:36.960 --> 00:23:42.599 of challenges are huge. Is like an avalanche. Can you 369 00:23:42.599 --> 00:23:45.839 imagine walking into your office on your first day and 370 00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:49.000 there's eight hundred and seventy four thousand emails you know 371 00:23:49.319 --> 00:23:52.599 right there? You know, you go, well, what do you 372 00:23:52.920 --> 00:23:55.680 am I supposed to open? And then you say, let 373 00:23:55.720 --> 00:23:58.839 me see the mail and there's twenty four thousand, three 374 00:23:58.920 --> 00:24:01.319 hundred and seventy four. This is a mail. So it's 375 00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:06.000 a daunting task to be president, particularly after four years 376 00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:10.160 of total mismanagement. Of the government. And so he's got 377 00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:13.880 to fix four years of a mess. And I think 378 00:24:13.960 --> 00:24:16.640 he'll fix most of it in the next six months, 379 00:24:16.920 --> 00:24:20.519 which is also a mess, because you fix up a mess, 380 00:24:20.640 --> 00:24:26.519 it is a mess. And so yes, but he's up 381 00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:30.079 to the challenge. There are some issues that he doesn't 382 00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:34.480 quite understand. That's what I gather when I watch various 383 00:24:34.519 --> 00:24:38.640 youtubes of him. He's like ninety five percent wonderful, and 384 00:24:38.759 --> 00:24:41.440 then there's five percent issues that he needs help with. 385 00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:44.799 Hopefully his staff as he puts it together, will help 386 00:24:44.880 --> 00:24:47.359 him with that remaining five percent. 387 00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:49.480 Well, so far with the people he's picked, I believe 388 00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:53.640 he has chosen some very very smart, competent people who 389 00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:56.039 will give him those five percent of the answers. And 390 00:24:56.200 --> 00:24:58.400 like you said, you walk into a mess like that, 391 00:24:58.960 --> 00:25:01.079 you're going to make a mess cleaning up the mess. 392 00:25:01.599 --> 00:25:06.319 It's kind of like Donald Trump has to remodel America's kitchen. 393 00:25:06.519 --> 00:25:08.759 Now we're still going to be able to get food, 394 00:25:09.079 --> 00:25:11.319 but you're going to have to step around some things 395 00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:15.839 before the remodeling job, before the cabinets are all in 396 00:25:16.359 --> 00:25:19.279 and the backsplash is put up over the sink. Is 397 00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:20.400 that a good analogy or not? 398 00:25:21.119 --> 00:25:24.880 Yes, you know, very fine. Analogy, another way of saying it, 399 00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:31.200 and more policy detail is President Trump's campaign to become 400 00:25:31.319 --> 00:25:36.279 president I would call ninety five percent domestic issue oriented 401 00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:41.000