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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

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<v Speaker 2>It's May gray.

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<v Speaker 3>It is May gray, and a little reminder of what

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<v Speaker 3>it would be like if we lived up in the

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<v Speaker 3>Pacific Northwest. When that sun comes out three hours a year,

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<v Speaker 3>they rejoice. By the way, speaking of Andrew, it is

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<v Speaker 3>I'm told your last day here. Yeah, at AM six.

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<v Speaker 2>Forty, they rolled out the red carpet.

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<v Speaker 4>iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 3>How could you leave the nirvana of broadcast? It's an outrage.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I know what has happened. Where are you going?

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<v Speaker 3>Can you say or would you prefer not to?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, NDA's had to sign those no?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that right? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I am exploring other opportunities. It's just I'm at a

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<v Speaker 2>crossroad where it's time to just kind of step back

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<v Speaker 2>and do it. This is now my fifth year of

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<v Speaker 2>doing news here in La, ten years TV and radio

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<v Speaker 2>in Southern California, and I just I want to explore

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<v Speaker 2>some other opportunities in my career. It is radio, though,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm Southern California born and raised. I'm not going anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm sure I'm going to cross paths with KFI

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<v Speaker 2>and iHeart again one day down the road.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I have no doubt. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 3>the way it goes. Maybe you'll come back. I remember

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<v Speaker 3>when Joe Kwan left KFI, you know, Joe Kwan, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>over and the Spectrum and stuff. We had a big

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<v Speaker 3>kind of farewell and you know, the tears and the

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<v Speaker 3>hugs and oh my gosh, it was exciting. She's going

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<v Speaker 3>on to TV. She's gonna be reporter. I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>Spectrum or k CAL. I forget exactly all the details.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it was both. And then eight months later, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>listening to KFI and there's Joe quant on the on

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<v Speaker 3>the radio again, and it's because she, you know, dipped

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<v Speaker 3>her toe back into the KFI water.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the bat beam goes up as it did

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<v Speaker 3>today for me, and you go, yeah, I'll come help out,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, in your case, do the news. My case, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>basically captain the ship as I am on short notice.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a delight.

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<v Speaker 3>And when it's in your blood as it is ours,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's probably true.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, if anything, kay if I has

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<v Speaker 2>been like a gift for me. I have grown and

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<v Speaker 2>I have become a stronger person as far as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>storytelling and journalism goes. I mean, I can't. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>thank this place enough for everything that I've done here

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<v Speaker 2>in the last five years. So I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm nothing but fortunate and have gratitude for everything and

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<v Speaker 2>everyone that I that I've met.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's very cool that you're so gracious about this place.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's just a weird coincidence that you and I

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<v Speaker 3>would be on together on your last day.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I saw that, and I'm like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder if he requested that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all part of the exit package.

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<v Speaker 3>All employees that leave iHeart will spend their last airshift

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<v Speaker 3>with Mark Thompson.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of it's kind of like a live in

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<v Speaker 2>real time said interview.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>We actually have a really cool configuration of people today

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<v Speaker 3>because Robin, Matt, Nicky and you. Now Nicky is from

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<v Speaker 3>Australia and New Zealand, I believe both, and she is

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<v Speaker 3>riding shotgun with Matt, who's been at iHeart for a

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<v Speaker 3>while and sort of knows all the producer ins and outs.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's you know, when you see new blood and

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<v Speaker 3>new people into this community of people who work at

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<v Speaker 4>It's cool. It's a great dynamic.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll get to maybe know her a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>later on, and of course we continue to focus on

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<v Speaker 3>Andrew and his fine service to this company. So did

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<v Speaker 3>you watch the Kentucky Derby. I don't mean to bring

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<v Speaker 3>this in there. I'm about to say something very Unamerican,

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<v Speaker 3>so I hope you'll are very un Kentucky derbysh But

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if anybody saw the Kentucky derbut watched

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<v Speaker 3>Derby fanel though, I thought one of the interesting things

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<v Speaker 3>about the Kentucky Derby. You know, I worked with Conway

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<v Speaker 3>on Tuesday nights, and he's the greatest, and he's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he's connected to horse racing in a way that is,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like in his DNA. But what I thought was

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<v Speaker 3>interesting is that the winner of the Kentucky Derby is

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<v Speaker 3>a descendant of Secretariat, and most of the winners of

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<v Speaker 3>the Kentucky Derby are descendants of Secretariat. Secretariat nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 3>three and fifty years later, the I guess what would

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<v Speaker 3>you call that? The progeny, the you know, the lineage.

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<v Speaker 3>It continues. But that's not the un American part the

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<v Speaker 3>thing I'm going to say that it's on American. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>but I did watch. The pageantry is a big part

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<v Speaker 3>of the Kentucky Derby. The outfits and the women wear

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<v Speaker 3>these hats and they're celebrated for wearing these hats. So

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<v Speaker 3>all yesterday I'm watching and I'm seeing and again it's

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<v Speaker 3>this long ramp up to the actual race, and you

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<v Speaker 3>hear from all these handicappers and all these former winners

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<v Speaker 3>and all these trainers, etc. But one of the huge

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<v Speaker 3>things they focus on is the hat thing. That all

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<v Speaker 3>of these women are wearing hats. And my Instagram feed

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<v Speaker 3>is filled with all of these people who I know, performers, producers,

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<v Speaker 3>people who are just fans of being on Instagram. They're

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<v Speaker 3>all there at the Kentucky Derby and all the women

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<v Speaker 3>are wearing these hats.

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<v Speaker 2>You can ask you a silly question. I would never

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<v Speaker 2>dare ask Conway, do you think it's kind of silly

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<v Speaker 2>that it's like as big as a super Bowl for

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<v Speaker 2>less than like a five minute race.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't think that's silly. I think that the

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<v Speaker 3>pageantry and the anticipation and the I guess just the

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<v Speaker 3>overall ramp up to it is part of excitement, if

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<v Speaker 3>you want to call it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not even like an all day thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like there's no like pre races or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>It's no, it's not like the freaquess. But I'm really

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<v Speaker 3>out of my depth talking about the you know, Conway

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<v Speaker 3>should be here to talk about the horse racing part.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't really know much about horse racings.

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<v Speaker 2>Like halftime show, like there's none of that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, But here's the way you have to look at it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're looking at it maybe the wrong way.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no playoffs, like, none of that.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right about that, there's no disputing what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>But you have to look at all the pageantry, the analysis,

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<v Speaker 3>and the world that they build for you, the world

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<v Speaker 3>of anticipation. You have to look at that as all

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<v Speaker 3>the things that you just mentioned. You have to look

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<v Speaker 3>at it as the playoffs. You have to look at

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<v Speaker 3>it as the halftime show. It's all wrapped into the

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<v Speaker 3>ramp up in the pregame show. I could say, boy,

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<v Speaker 3>super Bowl, don't you think it's kind of silly? I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it only lasts two and a half three hours, and

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<v Speaker 3>there is two weeks of stuff leading up to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't you think you know what I mean, I can

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<v Speaker 3>play that game with anything. I think, you know, Christmas,

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<v Speaker 3>we lead up to it for two and a half

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<v Speaker 3>months and then it's all over in, you know, one day.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's not to me the length of time that

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<v Speaker 3>the event takes. It's more sort of the significance that

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<v Speaker 3>the event has wrapped itself in. And that's where you

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<v Speaker 3>could say, you know, to me, it doesn't hit or

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't land or whatever. But what really doesn't hit

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<v Speaker 3>and land in Kentucky Derby Land for me is the hats. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>I think they look silly. I think they it's not

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<v Speaker 3>a good look. Now, this is maybe modern person looking

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<v Speaker 3>back at a wonderful tradition. And I'm not saying the

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<v Speaker 3>tradition shouldn't still exist. I'm just saying it doesn't land.

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<v Speaker 3>For I don't go, wow, look at all those glorious hats.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, boy, these are really some of them lovely people,

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<v Speaker 3>most of them all lovely people, and they have these

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<v Speaker 3>hats that are pinned onto the side of their head

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff. It's weird. It just doesn't work yet clearly

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<v Speaker 3>that's all part of the pageantry. It's not going anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>So in a way, this is a confession. I feel

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<v Speaker 3>guilty as an American for somehow rejecting this part of

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<v Speaker 3>the pageantry that I guess is Americana. But it just

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<v Speaker 3>show me one of these people with a hat, yellow, purple,

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<v Speaker 3>they're all pinned to the side, big small. I love hats,

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<v Speaker 3>but I don't love the derby hats.

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<v Speaker 2>Like what if you're ending, like like, who were it better?

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<v Speaker 2>What if you're matching somebody? Like does that ruin it

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<v Speaker 2>for you?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Well that's I mean, that's a total faux pas.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a fashion faux pas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, Well we've all come down to earth. And who

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<v Speaker 3>won again? Which horse Stow won?

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<v Speaker 4>Was it? Anybody? They beat?

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<v Speaker 2>Journalism?

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<v Speaker 4>Journalism law? I think finished third? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>And oh my god, isn't that crazy just happened yesterday. Sovereignty,

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much, sovereignty. Sovereignty the big winner.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank god. Matthew's here. Gosh, he's terrific not checking everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's probably bumming out that I haven't gotten any

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<v Speaker 3>of the Trump sat down with Kristen Welker from Meet

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<v Speaker 3>the Press, Matthew's bumming that I haven't even mentioned it yet,

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<v Speaker 3>but I just mentioned it and.

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<v Speaker 4>We will get into it with audio.

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<v Speaker 3>Next it's KFI AM six forty Mark Thompson here on

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<v Speaker 3>Sunday afternoon. Glad you could hang out with us Andrew's

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<v Speaker 3>last day and we will. We have two guests coming

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<v Speaker 3>up actually bottom of the hour, a doctor who will

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<v Speaker 3>talk about some of the things that happened, things that

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<v Speaker 3>are happening in California to pick up the slack because

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<v Speaker 3>the lack of funding at the federal level for our

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<v Speaker 3>medical research. Will talk about that and more with him.

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<v Speaker 3>And then my mentee stops by and she has a

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<v Speaker 3>new podcast that is fascinating. I think you'll be into

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<v Speaker 3>that too. So a lot to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

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<v Speaker 3>Follow up to what we were talking about at the Derby.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently one of the things that was an issue, and

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<v Speaker 3>this is sort of old school meeting new school, like

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<v Speaker 3>the classic history of Southern attendees of the Kentucky Derby

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<v Speaker 3>meeting the influence driven world of contemporary America. Apparently everybody's

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<v Speaker 3>complaining from the old school about various influencers who showed

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<v Speaker 3>up and didn't kind of play by the fashion rules

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<v Speaker 3>of Kentucky Derby and the only reason this is really

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<v Speaker 3>sun is turned into a bit of a standoff. And

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<v Speaker 3>there is an influencer named Gabriella Mora who's on TikTok.

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<v Speaker 3>She's pretty big, and apparently she was wearing inappropriate and

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<v Speaker 3>revealing attire to this prestigious event of the Kentucky Derby.

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<v Speaker 3>That is them of many who both attend and worship

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<v Speaker 3>the Kentucky Derby and the traditions she apparently has. She

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<v Speaker 3>has large breasts and they are much on display. I

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<v Speaker 3>haven't seen pictures of it, but these are the complaints.

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<v Speaker 3>She wore a dress that kind of showcase them, is

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<v Speaker 3>what we're hearing, and that's what been the complaint she said.

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<v Speaker 3>And others have defended her saying, hey, look do they

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<v Speaker 3>was so great the first weekend general admission tickets for

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<v Speaker 3>Second weekend kicked off at six hundred dollars apiece, and

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was a nice tribute wearing it. It's

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and she says, quote, this is the closest I'll

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<v Speaker 3>she was there at the Kentucky Derby as well. Donald

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<v Speaker 3>Trump spoke to Kristin Welker about the economy. It was

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<v Speaker 4>Here's a little bit and I really mean this.

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<v Speaker 5>He did a terrible job and everything.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually love that take. If you feel the economy

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<v Speaker 3>works in some places, that's my stuff. Yeah, the stuff

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<v Speaker 3>Looking at the Democratic Party and.

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<v Speaker 5>They have nobody. Bernie's eighty seven years old or something.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, Biden is the worst thing that ever

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<v Speaker 3>He's never as comfortable as he is bagging on Biden.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that is just for him. All roads lead

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, Biden is the worst thing that ever

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<v Speaker 4>He's sharp. He's the same guy who was.

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<v Speaker 5>He hasn't gone down. But Biden is really he's the

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, look, I will say this.

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<v Speaker 3>He's attending two university classes right now, and so it

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<v Speaker 3>taking this entire conversation as he was having toward dumping

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<v Speaker 3>He did remark on some of that, so we'll get

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, federal funding is leaving the United States when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to medical research. NIH CDC all being sapped

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<v Speaker 3>Huge cuts at the federal level when it comes to

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<v Speaker 3>medical research. The National Institutes of Health and Science cut dramatically.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's a weird thing because we do a lot

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<v Speaker 3>When we say when I say we, I don't mean myself,

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<v Speaker 3>fact that we might be able to fund our own

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<v Speaker 3>NIHE here in California, to essentially replace a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>doctor Michael Daniel. Hello there, sir David. I say, Michael David,

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<v Speaker 3>how are you, sir?

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<v Speaker 6>How's it going.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm well, nice to have you on board. You've seen

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<v Speaker 3>doctor Daniel on Fox eleven. He's a regular on my podcast,

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<v Speaker 3>The Mark Thompson Show, and so cool to have you

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<v Speaker 3>here to talk about this. So, first of all, we

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<v Speaker 6>You mentioned, Yeah, yeah, and those are the major institutions there, UCSF, Berkeley,

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<v Speaker 6>u CLA, you see, San Diego, Stanford, And if you

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<v Speaker 6>look at the cuts from the Trump administration in DOGE,

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<v Speaker 6>it was about a forty percent reduction to NIH, which

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<v Speaker 6>that funding from NAH just then gets parsed out to

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<v Speaker 6>the universities, as you mentioned, particularly in California. So right

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<v Speaker 6>now they're looking at about one hundred research grants totally

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<v Speaker 6>approximately three hundred and two, three undred and twelve million

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<v Speaker 6>that have been canceled, and that's disrupting ongoing research studies,

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<v Speaker 6>leading to a lot of hiring freezes and potential layoffs.

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<v Speaker 6>And so what State Senator Scott Weener had come up

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<v Speaker 6>And basically, it would be a state level agency that

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<v Speaker 6>provides these grants or re implements the grants to fund

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<v Speaker 6>these research studies that have been disrupted. And you know,

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<v Speaker 6>as you mentioned, a lot of the science and the

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<v Speaker 6>our university. So this would, you know, sort of prevent

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<v Speaker 6>that disruption. And I think it's a great initiative, and

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<v Speaker 6>have to really pay close attention to what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>And when we look at you know, it's funny we're

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<v Speaker 3>maybe funding within the state of California could replace a

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<v Speaker 3>federal government. And one of the things that's interesting to

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<v Speaker 3>it's not just outlay for medical research. There's actually huge

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and you look at you know, nationwide, California accounts

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<v Speaker 6>nation's biotech revenue. So you know, it's not, as you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 6>just a a fund and see you later. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of this will come back to us. And

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<v Speaker 6>then you know it's not even just the funding coming back.

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<v Speaker 6>You look at the dividends that get paid as far

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<v Speaker 6>of vaccines, which you know, as you and I have

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<v Speaker 6>discussed multiple times on your podcast, is you know those

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<v Speaker 6>vaccines are a threat now too from you know RK

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<v Speaker 6>Junior at HHS and everything. And so the bill is

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<v Speaker 6>actually you know this bill tomorrow it's too pronged. It's

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<v Speaker 6>to develop that California NIH and also to protect our

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<v Speaker 6>state's vaccine supply.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's interesting. I'm so glad you mentioned I was

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<v Speaker 3>talking about the return on investment essentially. You know, when

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<v Speaker 3>there's five point one billion that is awarded to California

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<v Speaker 3>universities just last year and thirteen point eight billion dollars

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<v Speaker 3>worth of jobs and services and scientific discovery, are it

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<v Speaker 3>come back?

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<v Speaker 4>So that's huge ROI.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're right to also point out the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>it's not just money, it's real medical research. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be breakthroughs and Alzheimer's in cancer and you know, these

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<v Speaker 3>are very important studies. And what's happened as they've yanked

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<v Speaker 3>the funding these studies just stop right in mid study

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<v Speaker 3>or is there some kind of de escalation of research

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<v Speaker 3>or you know, slow uh wrapping up of research. And

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<v Speaker 3>I hate to think that a lot of these programs

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<v Speaker 3>are they have timelines that are two, three, even five years.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, you're you know, you hit the nail right on

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<v Speaker 6>the head. And a lot of these projects are going

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<v Speaker 6>to be these research studies are going to be in

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<v Speaker 6>various stages and you know a lot of them the

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<v Speaker 6>well done randomized control trials include a placebo arm of

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<v Speaker 6>the study, and then the arm of the study that

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<v Speaker 6>involves the new intervention, whether that's a new drug for cancer,

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<v Speaker 6>a treatment for Alzheimer's, a new vaccine. And so you

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<v Speaker 6>stop that mid study and you know you're going to

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<v Speaker 6>lose so much data, You're going to lose so many

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<v Speaker 6>potential new innovations that will eventually benefit a large number

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<v Speaker 6>of us in the future. And I really think this

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<v Speaker 6>would be a great way for the state, with you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the fourth largest economy in the world, to send a

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<v Speaker 6>message to Washington that you know, we're not going to

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<v Speaker 6>stand for this roadblocking of science and public health and

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<v Speaker 6>medicine that needs to continue.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's just everything from the safety of drugs

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<v Speaker 3>you know that comes out of the FDA, and all

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<v Speaker 3>of this is out of HHS and biomedicine, as you say,

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<v Speaker 3>and with sort of critical research and aging population, there

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<v Speaker 3>are a bunch of baby boomers are desperate for some

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<v Speaker 3>kind of treatment for everything from cancer to Alzheimer's. It

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<v Speaker 3>appears that you know, a lot of this research is

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<v Speaker 3>so very critical, Doctor Daniel, Can you just over the break.

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<v Speaker 3>I've just also a question about the emergence of bird

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<v Speaker 3>flu et cetera. And so I want to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll just wrap up with doctor Daniel in a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>You can find him on Fox eleven. He regularly makes

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<v Speaker 3>appearances there and he also is a regular on my podcast,

474
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<v Speaker 3>The Mark Thompson Show, which is on the YouTube and

475
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<v Speaker 3>across the podcast universe, including iHeartRadio. So more with doctor

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<v Speaker 3>Daniel as we continue.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

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<v Speaker 3>Mark Thompson here, and we're talking to doctor Michael Daniel

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<v Speaker 3>about We began the conversation with essentially a conversation about

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<v Speaker 3>filling in the gaps that are being left by federal

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<v Speaker 3>research money leaving the American medical system. Meaning all of

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<v Speaker 3>the federal research that is funded here in California at UCLA,

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<v Speaker 3>at US at major universities and beyond that is stopping

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of it because of I'd say the lion's

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<v Speaker 3>share of it, because of the plug being pulled from Washington.

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<v Speaker 3>So might there be a possibility to self fund essentially

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<v Speaker 3>and make up that gap, kind of start our own

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<v Speaker 3>NIH here in California. And doctor Daniel was saying, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's very much possible, and so off of that, I

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<v Speaker 3>wonder doctor if you could talk about those things that

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<v Speaker 3>are being researched in so many ways in California. I

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<v Speaker 3>know there's a lot of research being done even on

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<v Speaker 3>the spread of bird flu. I mean, you know there's

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<v Speaker 3>sort of contemporary disease control research monitoring going on.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you speak to some of that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, as we talked multiple times on your podcast, I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>bird flu is definitely one of those things that just

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<v Speaker 6>keeps me awake at and I just feel, especially with

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<v Speaker 6>the new administration trying to downplay you know, COVID, other

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<v Speaker 6>infectious disease, reduce funding to infectious disease. They canceled a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of workshops that were planned around bird flu. They

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<v Speaker 6>canceled a simulation project to train multiple labs across the

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<v Speaker 6>country for how to identify it. So, you know, I

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<v Speaker 6>think right now we're really flying blind, and by that,

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<v Speaker 6>I just don't think we have a good handle and

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<v Speaker 6>probably don't really have an accurate assessment of how many

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<v Speaker 6>cases there are. You know, we know that there's been

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<v Speaker 6>a significant impact in dairy cows and poultry and wild birds,

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<v Speaker 6>and you know, there's only been about seventy confirmed human

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<v Speaker 6>cases of H five and one, which is the bird flu,

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<v Speaker 6>and most of those were related to infected dairy cows

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<v Speaker 6>and infected poultry, and for the most part, most of

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<v Speaker 6>the cases have been mild. There was only one death

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<v Speaker 6>of a worker in Louisiana. So, but you know, looking

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<v Speaker 6>right now at the number is I just don't feel

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<v Speaker 6>like what's available is to us publicly from CDC is

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<v Speaker 6>an accurate number. And as I mentioned to you multiple times,

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<v Speaker 6>with any kind of virus, I just worry that the

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<v Speaker 6>more unrestrained replication that we allow, whether it's in the

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<v Speaker 6>dairy cows, in the poultry, the virus will find a

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<v Speaker 6>way to ultimately be able to spread from human to human,

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<v Speaker 6>and once that happens, we're in big trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess I'm listening to you and trying to

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<v Speaker 3>be encouraged by some of what you've said.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe the low numbers encourage me.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, obviously I'm discouraged by the fact that there

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<v Speaker 3>are no numbers that are really reliable based on what

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<v Speaker 3>you're saying that they're essentially looking the other way on

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<v Speaker 3>bird flu. But is there at the end of the

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<v Speaker 3>bird flu mutation that might actually jump into a human

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<v Speaker 3>population how severe is it? I mean, how big a

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<v Speaker 3>is there a threat of a lot of fatalities or

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<v Speaker 3>the threat of does it diminish you? And what are

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<v Speaker 3>the effects of bird flu? I guess you would ask, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean right now, as I mentioned, if you're a

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<v Speaker 6>poultry a farm worker and you get infected with bird flu,

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<v Speaker 6>the symptoms are mild and there's only been one, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>fatality for somebody with severe illness. But in that one

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<v Speaker 6>patient in Louisiana, we learned a lot. This patient had

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<v Speaker 6>severe disease and looking at the actual genome structure of

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<v Speaker 6>the virus of the bird flu strain that this patient had,

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<v Speaker 6>the virus was already exhibiting the ability to infect the

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<v Speaker 6>upper airway of humans. And that kind of thing makes

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<v Speaker 6>me nervous because that is how viruses spread very easily.

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<v Speaker 6>It's from an upper airway infection. And you know, as

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<v Speaker 6>we saw with COVID, the original strain was very good

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<v Speaker 6>at getting into the lungs and causing severe disease, pneumonia,

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<v Speaker 6>low oxygen rates, high ICU utilization. But fortunately through the

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<v Speaker 6>course of the COVID pandemic, the virus lost that ability

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<v Speaker 6>to get into the lungs. And preferred a more upper

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<v Speaker 6>airway infect ability to and that's why we saw, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>higher numbers of people getting infected, but less severe disease,

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<v Speaker 6>less hospitalization, less death as we went through the pandemic. Fortunately,

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<v Speaker 6>but I think with bird flu, we just we just

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<v Speaker 6>don't know what's going to happen. And in previous cases

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<v Speaker 6>of bird flu around the world, the fatality rate has

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<v Speaker 6>been pretty high. It's been around forty fifty. So that's

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<v Speaker 6>another Yeah, that's another thing that makes me nervous. And

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<v Speaker 6>so we just need to, uh, we need to pay

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<v Speaker 6>better attention. And you know, we can't really count in

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<v Speaker 6>the federal government, and that's one of the reasons why,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, at my er little company, Mary and Torrents,

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<v Speaker 6>we created our own protocol for just screening for bird flu,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, adults that come into the ear with flu

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<v Speaker 6>like illness. We asked one simple question, and what kind

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<v Speaker 6>of work do you do. Do you work on a

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<v Speaker 6>poultry farm? Do you work with livestock? Because that would

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<v Speaker 6>trigger for us additional testing. And so I think that's

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<v Speaker 6>what hospitals and ers you know, need to do around

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<v Speaker 6>the country. They need to do their own upfront surveillance

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<v Speaker 6>and that's usually to be in the er.

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<v Speaker 3>Our last minute with doctor Michael Daniel, who is an

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<v Speaker 3>er doctor, I want to ask, what is the most

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<v Speaker 3>common thing that you see every day in the er?

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<v Speaker 3>What's the general common malady or accident or other thing

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<v Speaker 3>that comes into the er when you're there under your watch.

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<v Speaker 6>That's a great question, you know, in my own experience,

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<v Speaker 6>and this is supported by research, the most common reason

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<v Speaker 6>that people go to the er is abdominal pain. By

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<v Speaker 6>far across the country, that's the one, and that can

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<v Speaker 6>be a variety of things. I mean that could be appendicitis,

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<v Speaker 6>could be a stone in your gallbladder, a kidney stone,

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<v Speaker 6>but you know, oftentimes abdominal pain. People that are having

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<v Speaker 6>heart attacks can present with atypical pain and it can

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<v Speaker 6>sometimes be a dominal pain. So we usually cast a

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<v Speaker 6>very wide net when we're working up those patients.

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<v Speaker 3>How many times on what percentage of those abdominal pain

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<v Speaker 3>patients who come to you in the er have something

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<v Speaker 3>that's actually legitimately serious?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, very I see a very small number. The vast

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<v Speaker 6>majority are sent home.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>No, The interesting thing is the vast majority are sent

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<v Speaker 6>home without a diagnosis. Yeah, you know, and that's The

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<v Speaker 6>thing that frustrates patients is they come to the er

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<v Speaker 6>looking for answers. But as I always tell my patients,

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<v Speaker 6>in the emergency room, we're trained to rule out the

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<v Speaker 6>worst case scenario, sure, the worst possible thing that could

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<v Speaker 6>be contributing to your Donald Paine, such that when we

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<v Speaker 6>send you home, we're confident that you're going to be fine.

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<v Speaker 3>My dad wouldn't take us to the emergency room as

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<v Speaker 3>kids under any circumstances. I remember breaking my ankle once

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<v Speaker 3>and my dad would not take me, and I knew

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<v Speaker 3>the ankle was broken. It was crazy. It was just

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<v Speaker 3>like it was a different even like he was like

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<v Speaker 3>a fifties, sixties kind of dad, where you just like

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<v Speaker 3>tough it out, you know what I mean. But finally,

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<v Speaker 3>I remember we did have to go to the hospital

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<v Speaker 3>and they had to give me a cast and everything

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<v Speaker 3>on that in that particular instance. But I know that

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<v Speaker 3>now I feel like people go to urgent care in

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<v Speaker 3>the er a little more frequently than they might have

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<v Speaker 3>in the past, you know, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Just because of ease of access, especially to urgent care.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly easy of access.

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<v Speaker 3>Michael Daniel, The Great Doctor can be found on Fox eleven.

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<v Speaker 3>You can also be found on my podcast and Mark

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<v Speaker 3>Thompson Show. But also you are a real er doctor,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't know if you know you may run

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<v Speaker 3>into him in the where what is your er that you.

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<v Speaker 4>Work out of?

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<v Speaker 6>I work at Providence Little Company and Mary down in Torrance.

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<v Speaker 3>Love it, Love it the best place to get sick

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<v Speaker 3>if you can see doctor Michael Daniel. My god, I

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<v Speaker 3>hope I get sick and Torrance if I need to.

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<v Speaker 3>So appreciate your input. All kidding aside, Thank you for

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<v Speaker 3>bringing some light to this emerging issue with the medical

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<v Speaker 3>funding and research funding that may happen in California and

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<v Speaker 3>talking to us about bird fluid. Thanks a lot, Doctor Daniel,

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<v Speaker 3>pleasure all right, talk soon. He's terrific and really just

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<v Speaker 3>a window on so very much. When we come back,

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<v Speaker 3>I have more of the interview that Donald Trump did

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<v Speaker 3>with Kristin Welker from Meet the Press. Talked about the border,

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<v Speaker 3>deportations and the Constitution. We'll get to all of that

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<v Speaker 3>in the next hour. And my mentee stops in. She

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<v Speaker 3>has a new podcast. It's fascinating. It's very related to

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<v Speaker 3>her world as a foster child. We'll hear more about

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<v Speaker 3>that in the next hour as well

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty on demand
