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Speaker 1: From Chicago to prog from dodgy tackles on the rugby

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Speaker 2: He's traded in scrums.

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Speaker 1: For stat sheets, cleats for courtside coverage, and somehow he

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Speaker 2: He's Ronald the three Man Weaver.

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Speaker 1: He'll break down the matchup storylines and give you everything

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you need to know before tip off. It's the Cougar

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Speaker 3: Yeah, welcome in to the basketball pre Game's up here

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on Cooper Stars one nine, ninety eight three ESPN Fan.

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Ronald the three Man Weaver Here, let me taking you

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guys up until tip off. For the next hour, we

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got a great pregame show tuned into. Everybody that joined

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us on Saturday for the first edition, I appreciated again.

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Just want to thank Jackie Louis, the general manager for

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this opportunity, Bryce Larsen, the program director, James Peterson the

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director as well, and then most importantly, Demand that's been

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advocating me for this whole time. My entire time on

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the air start as an intern. Just want to thank

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Ben Crittle as well. Guys, you work hard in the business,

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You're afforded opportunities, and this is one I definitely don't

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want to mess up a little.

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Speaker 4: Bit of a starting lineup for today. We're gonna take

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Speaker 3: Of the questions I have of you know, what is

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bu what you need to do tonight against Pacific, what

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Speaker 4: I have my thoughts, want to hear your thoughts as well.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna put it out on Ben's Twitter on Crital

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Benjamin score predictions. So the closest person that has the

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correct score of what tonight's game will be, we're gonna

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give some swag away.

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Speaker 4: We'll want to do that just like we do for

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Speaker 3: So if you're the closest to whatever your score prediction

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is tonight of what the final score would be, it

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has to be the closest and you have to go

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on Twitter. You can't wait until the end of the game.

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roll Limi Brand, give you a free T shirt. We're

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gonna be doing at all this season. A couple of

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those questions that I have, as I mentioned the first one,

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day of which non star will have the biggest impact

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in tonight's game against specific couple guys I named Alexi Kovich,

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in the program. You also have Alexi, who finally had

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that coming down to Earth moment where he finally was

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able to hit a couple of shots. Can he keep

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that up tonight? Tyler, I think has worked himself out

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of the rotation until he showcase otherwise. And look, these

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are all important questions because I've caught up now to

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tease it a little bit, you're hearing my interview with

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Coach Bergers in the next segment. But kJ Perry gonna

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red scher per Brandon Dunson. You heard from that on Saturday.

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in this season? It's happened in BAU basketball history before.

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want to do that. Kevin Young probably does not want

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to even think about that. You want to red shirt

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those guys, get an extra year. You've seen the development

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can't squander an opportunity with the number one with the

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potential overall number one pick. If you live under a rock,

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like as I say, Patrick Starr, Darren Peterson, don't know

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four and the five, so I could even demons a four,

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tell you right now, pay the big bucks to go

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watch this kid in the Marriott because to watch him

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every single game, whether I'm covering the game or on television,

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this is a generational talent that you're not gonna see

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probably ever again at BYU and the potential number one

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overall pick. So we'll discuss that a little bit more.

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Speaker 5: Ben.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for joining me today.

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Speaker 6: Yo Yo excited to be a part of the BYU

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Basketball The Cougar Sports Basketball pregame show, Fun Fact of

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the Day to start us off. Okay, you know me like,

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I am a quarter zip guy, right up a quartership show?

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Speaker 2: You are?

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Speaker 5: You said that? All right?

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Speaker 6: I like to keep it simple. Do you know something

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that's form fitting, et cetera. How would you describe k

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 6: I feel like he's he's a pullover guy. He's a

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quarter zip and pullover guy. That's what he is, right,

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I mean, look at what he wears. Okay, if you

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have been to a BYU game since k Y took over,

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you will know he enjoys wearing a variety of pullover

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black with ybat Digger Cougar, three and oh black with

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b YU beat Digger Cougar. He's one and one and

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then gray with b YU beat Digger Cougar two and oh,

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he likes the black and he likes the gray.

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Speaker 5: Have you noticed that.

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Speaker 3: Black also makes you look slim too as well, Ben,

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black and gray help you look slim. Nothing sim to win,

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slim to win, you gotta go slim to window. He

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does like the black, and he was wearing the black

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last game. And it's not even just that beIN. He

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likes the quarterszip. He told us that, you know, in

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them media availability at the luncheons we had he is

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a quarter zip guy. So the old coaching staff and

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the suits at home, you're not gonna see that. I

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you can now wear pull up zip ups. They didn't

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have to go the traditional suit anymore, and that's what

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Speaker 4: That became k wise like outfit. His sleep is pajamas.

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conference at another school or going back to the NBA.

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Speaker 4: So he wears that.

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Speaker 3: He wears the jogger pants and then he wears the jianowskis.

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He doesn't coach anything different watch the shoe game guys tonight.

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His staff might have dunks, they might have one's eleven's.

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You know then they Austin, they got you, they got swaged.

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Trust me when I see them, I'm nodding my head

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because you know, I'm a sneaker guy. Ben, I'm like,

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it's a lot of talent. But Kevin Young is a

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simple man. Quarter zip Joggers and Janowski's. He doesn't like

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it any differently. And then you know he keeps it

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high and tight like you've been with the hair.

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Speaker 4: That's how he is.

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Speaker 3: He's all about business. So I love that you pointed

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What do you need to see tonight from BOU basketball

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against Pacific. It's the same thing I saw on the

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UC riverside game. The defense needs to stay elite. Here

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are the stats BYU Currently right now is number fourteenth

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in defensive efficiency and that's after the Q one and

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Q two games. That's the first ten games. And think

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about the non conference Q one schedule. They played the

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likes of Clemson, they played Villanova, they played Yukon. That's

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what you need if you want to compete for a

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final four. Berthdon opportunity to win the national championship last season,

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this was the problem. Ben, You and I both knew

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this BYU was eighty second last season and has been

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top fifty. You know, has been top fifty once since

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twenty twelve, and that was twenty twenty one. That doesn't

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happen often, Ben, And that's because of the high level

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talent of aj Debons, to the pressure Rob Wright puts

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on the rim, Richie Saunders, they have this to Ki

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Bakata being a rim protector. This roster been well constructed

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in the offseason. Was constructed to be better defensively from

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the perimeter Kanard Davis Junior, and I think that's the

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big time stat bend of why this team is, you know,

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nine to one going into the last three games in conference,

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because before that, I'm not going to say that they

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were bad, but they they struggle from the three point line.

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you have to guard the three point line and take

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so many great wins and even the exhibition games, right,

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just a great competitive effort. Like, I love the team.

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I love the team's identity. And you bring up defense

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everybody's about that defense facts, you know that, Like, not

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everyone's about that. Not everyone buys in. And I love

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the fact that this team is bought in defensively and

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they don't have chemistry issues. We've always talked about this.

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you're bringing high level players, divas, entitlement, poison, all those

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things can seep into your basketball program. We're not seeing

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any of those symptoms right now. We're not seeing any

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of those issues. The only criticism that I can have

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for this team is every once in a while in

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the first half, the ball gets a little bit sticky

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as a secondary ansel everything, sometimes the defense isn't as

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good as it needs to be, not due to lack

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of effort, I think it's more due to execution. So

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love this team and I love what they're doing. They've

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had great wins. You know, what is the best win

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of the season. Would you say, what is the best win.

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Speaker 5: Of the season thus far this season? And why? What

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and we have to go to the tape, right, go

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to the non conference Quad one and Quad two. Just

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to remind the fans started off the season on a

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neutral site. They beat Villanova, they lost to Yukon, they

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beat in Miami, they beat Clemson in the garden, they

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beat Wisconsin on a neutral site, they beat Dayton, they

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beat California Baptists. This has tough, Ben, But if I

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really had to think about it, the best one, I

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sixty nine Wisconsin in the net. Because when you blow

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out a top twenty five team like Wisconsin on a

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neutral site by almost thirty, Ben almost turted. And know

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it was like a home game because it was in

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the Delta Center. But a team that you just played

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four months ago. Remember they had John Toms, who's playing

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in the G League for the Jazz Is. To give

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you a little fun fact, it's the Clemson one, though, Ben,

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I think Wisconsin's right there.

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Speaker 4: If you want to say one, B, I want to

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argue you.

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Speaker 3: But the Clemson one to be down twenty, to be dead,

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left to rights, and again I remind people you got

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to go into the depths of it.

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Speaker 4: The cut. I talked to Brandon Dunston and I said,

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how did they come back?

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Speaker 2: Happen?

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Speaker 3: Ask Chris birds are the same thing player led. They

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didn't have to say a lot. AJ was talking at halftime,

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Richie was talking a halftime, Rob Wright, and you mentioned it.

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A couple of you mentioned it yesterday.

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Speaker 4: I love how AJ.

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Speaker 3: Has taken over like this is my is the leader

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and what I mean my team of not in a

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private way of I have to help my team come along.

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I have to help the bench guys. It falls on

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my shoulders. And he's not shying away from it when

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he's vocal the locker room of we just need to

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rebound better, Hey, make the extra pass. Keep like when

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he's taken that at eighteen a reminder he reclassified Ben

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so he's young.

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Speaker 4: He's a young kid like I don't. I wasn't doing

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it at eight team and I played sports not as

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good as AJ. You played football.

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Speaker 3: Take yourself back to when you were eighteen. Were you

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that vocal and were you that calm? You know, I'm

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poised in those big moments, and AJ has stepped up.

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So to me, Ben, the biggest win of the season

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has to be Clemson because they had all the momentum

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and then dead the rights and held them to twenty

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one points. Fun fact, two last two games, Baus held

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their opponent to twenty one points in the second half.

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So the defense is starting to heat up. And that's

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why I think, Ben, you need to keep this against Pacific.

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And I'm gonna ask you a question.

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Speaker 4: You remember the days of the Pacific, they keep you

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out of the.

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Speaker 3: Tournament, Ben, And I asked this to Chris Burgess, and

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we'll hear that momentarily in the next segment. You would

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maybe split between the Saint Mary's game. You lose against

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Zaga and you'd have to beat everybody else in Pacific.

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You lose on the road, and that would keep you

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from going to the tournament. Well, that's not the case anymore,

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but deja vubin can DejaVu enter into the marrit Could

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another slow start happen? Because you've played this team before this,

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you're very well familiar with the wcc FO they played

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in this building.

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Speaker 4: Could you see by you have a slow start tonight

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against Pacific?

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Speaker 6: Well, I think that this Bway basketball team is just that.

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I don't I don't think they really start fast.

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Speaker 4: I mean no, they don't.

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Speaker 6: Look look at every single of these games like like,

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I don't know if you can necessarily consistently say that

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this is a first half team.

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Speaker 5: It's not.

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Speaker 6: It's a second half team. It's an adjustment. Uh, it's

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an adjustment type of team. It's a uh, it's a

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team that It's not that they don't come in and

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motivate it. I just you wonder about the game plan,

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you wonder about what it is. They just they got

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to warm up first. I don't know, man, it's just

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they're not a first half team. So uh, yeah, they're

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going they very well could start slow. Pacific can keep

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it competitive and and make it interesting. I think they've

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beaten the Cougs three times, and they've they've they've beaten

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them fifteen. I mean it's been a dominant, like one

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sided matchup in their eighteen matchups since I think they

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started playing back in I want to say the first

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first game was in two thousand and fourteen, if I'm.

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Speaker 4: Not mistaken anywa.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and so yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think in twenty twenty two in January they got

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you in Stockton. It's never happened in Provo though. No,

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It's always been on the road, always on the road.

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So even when they do have talent, even when they

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do have productivity, they win at home. They're not winning

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in Provo. No one, No one wins. No one comes

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into the Marriott Center and wins. They're oh to eight,

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I believe, all time against the Cougars at the Marriott Center.

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So even if BYU starts slow, I don't see this

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being an interesting one. I think BAYU covers. It's minus

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twenty three and a half. I believe it is why

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you covers. And by the way, I'm putting out the

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But second half they pull away strong and they cover.

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Tabinari say he needs, you know, for his ego

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for BA to be pacific by fifty. Don't think you

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need to see fifty, but I do think you need

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to see a thirty point blowout. You need to show

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that there is no longer a problem to sparity. You

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can't play a close bug and you can't play you

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can't let Pacific cover. That's the biggest thing that I'm saying.

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Because you wanted to get out of the WCC. We

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don't belong there. We can play with other big time

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programs sec ACC. If you let Pacific cover, that's gonna

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start to push against that narrative a little bit. But

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I don't think Kevin Young will let it happen, as

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always has been said. Just want to remind you, guys,

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Speaker 3: If you if you want to look good, feel good

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and feel good and play good and pay good, then

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best shirt that I've worn. I was wearing it around.

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Some of the youth in my ward said how can

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I get that shirt? I said, this is where you

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can go get it. It's roll Armi Brand DoD Colm.

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Let's give you an update. Tonight's game against Pacific will

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be a Quad three game. It's a Quad three game

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that bo will be playing in. They haven't played a

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Quad three game yet this season. Well, this will be

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the first one. Could get moved up to Quad three

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depending on how Pacific finishes the rest of the season.

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But six Q one and Q two wins are tied

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with Michigan for the most nationally. So, like Kevin Young

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and Chris Burgers talked about in the offseason, they wanted

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to test themselves in the non conference play, and they've

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done that so far, and they have a Q three

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game tonight.

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Speaker 4: It's the first Q three game.

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Speaker 3: Both games versus Utah are currently the only other Q

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three games projected. Now that's because right now it's still

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early in the season. Once he tall maybe gets some

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wins in Big Twelve play, that will change. And just

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to give you guys a little bit more of a breakdown,

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depending where you play the game at determines it. If

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you're playing on the road, it may move a game

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up in the net rankings. If you're playing it at

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on the road or at home, that changes just how

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you foresee those things going forward. I want to move

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to my next question, which non starter will have the

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biggest impact tonight in the BAU basketball matchup. I think

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I'm gonna go back to what I said the first

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time on Saturday.

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Speaker 4: I think Alexi.

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Speaker 3: Coaches continues to shoot the ball well at a high level.

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Last game career high fifteen points. Look, you know you're

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having a good night when the guys smiling. He shot

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I think his third or fourth winning He was just smiling,

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And that's what you want. Alexi needs a bunch of

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confidence right now. And look, I know the talent is

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not good. I know it's Q three Q four opponents.

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That's true. You can't take that away. But you need

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to build confidence now because when you play Kansas State

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in your first Big twelve game on the road, January third.

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Speaker 4: You need him to be locked and loaded.

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Speaker 3: You need that combo, as Kevin Young mentioned in the

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post game of a de Bonsa and Alexi to work.

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You need him to be confident because if he doesn't

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show up on the road, that's tough. And look, Ben,

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I think, like you said, the first half struggles playing,

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maybe the basketball, the game plan not working. I think

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at some point in conference play when it gets more physical.

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We saw what happened in an Iowa State game where

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they were up big and an Iowa State storm back

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with the lack of bench production and how they struggle.

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Speaker 4: I think AJ, Robb and Richie could get tired.

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Speaker 3: I could be wrong, Ben, but I think you very

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well can find yourself in your first Big twelve row game.

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And I know this is a few weeks down the line,

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you can find yourself in some trouble, just like you

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did in the Clemson game, in a true road environment

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when it's tough to win in the Big twelve, Ben,

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if the bench players aren't producing. So I'll start there

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with you and then give me your answer to which

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non starter will have the biggest impact in tonight's game.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I like to take like after the UC riverside game.

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I mean you begin to just start to see. I

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mean the Clemson game is one thing, right, You're not

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necessarily relying as much on your bench.

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Speaker 5: We need to develop the bench, to develop it now

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in these next three games.

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Speaker 6: And so my my automatic thought after the the the

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horn sound and you got the win over UC Rivers

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and I'm like, who do I trust on the bench?

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Speaker 5: Right now? Who do I trust?

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Speaker 6: Coming off the bench? I feel so bad for Dawson

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Baker and I didn't get we haven't gotten to know

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Nate Pickens will, but I feel bad for him. You

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know that this is why you go out and get

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you get depth because we've had our fair share of

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bad luck, be it off.

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Speaker 5: The court issues or injuries over the years.

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Speaker 6: When you have a good team, you have like a

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Big three type of deal, you have good depth, and

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just attrition rears its ugly head. So I'm going to

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pick Mahilo in this game, okay, right? Like, and the

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reason being is because Heilo has been seeing more minutes.

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You can tell that they're bringing him along. They want

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to give him time, they want to give him more opportunities.

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Speaker 5: There's no doubt about it. They saw right what his

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potential was when they brought him from Serbia.

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Speaker 6: Okay, and late last season as I look at you know,

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game logs and how he was increasingly involved. Okay, it

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was in November when he started to see and maybe

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even to a certain extent, you know, January December, like

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he logged I think twenty minutes versus Universus FAMU. But

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that was a it was an easy game, right, He

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got early minutes last year, early in the teams, and

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then it dropped off, right, it dropped off. And then

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he got into March, and he saw twenty versus Iowa State,

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seventeen versus Utah, twenty one versus Iowa State again in

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the Big twelve championship game. He only saw five minutes

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in that Houston game, and then Wisconsin was six, and

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then Alabama was ten minutes. But we saw an increase

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in productivity and impact in these games. He I think

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he had eleven points and ten points respectively in the

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Utah and Iowa State games in in March. So I'm

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gonna lean on Mahilo here and say, hey, he's coming along,

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not at an accelerated pace, but they have to bring

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him along. They have to force him along. He did

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get eighteen minutes. Early in the season. He had seven

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points versus cal Baptist. Looked pretty good there, looked solid there,

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going three to three, one for one from the three

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point line. He only had three minutes in the Clemson game.

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It was a close one, so they didn't go to

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the bench. You see riverside he had ten minutes. So

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Yukon he actually had. He had sixteen minutes.

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Speaker 5: You can see the staff trying to force feed Mahilo

475
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and saying you got to step up. He was two

476
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of eight in that Yukon game. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: He got five semi contested to open looks and he

478
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didn't hit.

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Speaker 5: He's got to hit. So they need Mahilo. They they

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need a.

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Speaker 6: Stretch four, Stretch five type of player. He's the guy

482
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that needs to step up. I want to continue to

483
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force feed him and try to get him into a groove,

484
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try to build more confidence. Uh and hopefully that showcase tonight.

485
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Speaker 4: I agree with you. I think they are gonna continue

486
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to force feed him. You have to. Will you think

487
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of who's coming off the bench.

488
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Speaker 3: Diamande can shoot threes, but it's not really his biggest

489
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strength and Kadeem is the guy that's gonna get on

490
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the boards when you want us up kPa out maybe

491
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and go a little bit small if you bring in

492
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Xavion so Mahilo is a guy that stretches the floor

493
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and against this specific team, how they match up roster wise.

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We'll get into that in our last segment. That's gonna

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play a big factor. We guys, we need to take

496
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a quick break, but don't go anywhere. Coming back on

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the flip, we're gonna hear my interview with Chris Burgess.

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He's gonna give us a scout on report of what

499
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you need to look out for tonight, who this specific

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men's basketball team is. We'll also talk a little bit

501
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of bring a recruiting bringing Dean Ruker and we'll openshaw

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as well. That coming up next. You're listening to the

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Cougar Basketball pregame show right here on one O three

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nine in ninety eight three esp He's.

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Speaker 1: Not Cougar Basketball Pregame Show one nine, ninety eight three

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ESPN the Fan Welcome back to the.

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Speaker 3: Cooper Basketball pre games on Marijuana Brees There Ronald three

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Man weave here at Bank Credle also by my side

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without further.

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Speaker 4: Ado, don't want to take too much time.

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Speaker 3: Let's get to my interview that I caught up this

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morning with Chris Burgess breaking down the.

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Speaker 4: Specific team.

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Speaker 3: All right on the second stop here on the Cougar

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Basketball pre game Sean, I'm joined today. One of the

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by U assistant coaches knows this team very well, pretty

517
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sure he scouted them before this morning. I got Chris Burgess, coach,

518
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thanks for joining me this morning. Early start for you guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 7: Excited to get going against it against a very well

521
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known former conference.

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Speaker 6: Fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's just take that back. Wcc DA's bully basketball

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now in the Big twelve.

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Speaker 4: You're here before.

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Speaker 3: I remember the days I was talking to coach Dunson,

527
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you know about this and others. I remember the days

528
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where basketball playing against Saint Mary's, playing against you know, Gonzaga,

529
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and it just seems like back in the day, you

530
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would really have to get those teams and win, and

531
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then it'd be the Pacifics the Pepperdines, and those games

532
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not necessarily would cost b YU, but would hold them

533
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out of the tournament.

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Speaker 4: I know fans are disappointed, but now we've moved, we've

535
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moved on from that.

536
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Speaker 3: Now in the Big twelve, of you know, the competition

537
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is different and it doesn't matter necessarily if a loss

538
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and non conference or conference play happens, you still have

539
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an opportunity to get to the tournament, just from your

540
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vantage point of how the program has evolved.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great point.

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Speaker 7: You know, when you played in the w c C,

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you know, it's all it's like the net, the instant net,

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and the rankings how they do tournament seeds. You know,

545
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you had b YU and you had you know, Saint

546
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Mary's twice and and Gonzaga that were essentially plot one

547
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or quad two wins or good wins, good opportunities that

548
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could only help you. And as good as like as

549
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tough as it was to like go to go to

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a Pacific and and and win, you know, it was

551
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like a must win situation. It could have really hurts you, right,

552
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it could really hurt you on on the you know,

553
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the tournament you know bid and so you know when

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you're involved to go to the Big twelve.

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Speaker 2: Now now it's like everyone's a quad.

556
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Speaker 7: Every road game for sure is a quad one, and

557
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every every every game you play is a quad one

558
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or Quad two opportunities. So just in terms of NCAA

559
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tournament brackets, that's a great thing to be in the

560
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Big twelve.

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Speaker 2: Just in terms of like obviously the coaching is an

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elite in the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 7: It's it's it's good everywhere, but it's it's like you're

564
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going against you know, Bill soph was one of US

565
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championship right like Samson tj Ausenberger, I mean, I mean,

566
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Tommy Lloyd. You're going against these elite coaches, and you're

567
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going against you know, a team that has one or

568
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two guys you know that are going to probably playing

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in the league right or play professionally for a long time.

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And so it's so it's it's it's great to be

571
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a part of the Big twelve and to be challenged

572
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and to be pushed, and to play in these environments

573
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right like Ames Iowa or Lubbock, Texas that love and

574
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appreciate their team and college basketball there and their university.

575
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It's it's just it's a very unique That's that's the

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one thing I think is so great as our fan

577
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base as are phenomenal, and so it's it's amazing to

578
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be a part.

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Speaker 4: Of you see a challenge. Let's start there and continue.

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Speaker 3: You had mentioned I think it was an offseason when

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we caught up with you that you sawid Arizona did

582
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last year, and if you're able to replicate that in

583
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your own way, it will set you guys up for

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the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 4: How do you feel like the non conference has done

586
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that with the schedule, You guys have performed amazing so far.

587
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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know what, how it's going is exactly how

588
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we envisioned. Probably a little better. Of course, you'd love

589
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to be undefeated, but our whole point was to put

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together a top twenty five non conference schedule, depending on

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what metric system you look at. So far, we've been

592
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doing that, and you know, we're sitting nine and one

593
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with you know, I think we're I think we're five

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and one or something, six and one in quat one

595
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quad two quadric games, and you know, I think if

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the our goal was to, you know, go into this

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year when the team we had coming in and agent,

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you know, Richie.

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Speaker 2: Coming back cave but come back.

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Speaker 7: Our whole point was like, we don't wanted to make

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the tournament, right think in the past is like, let's

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just get to the tournament and make a run. We

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want to see, right, we want a good seed, we

604
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want a one, two or three seed. And so the

605
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only way you can do that is, of course win

606
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the Big twelve, but like you have to put together.

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Speaker 2: A non conference game and you have to win games.

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And so you know, we felt like we've done that.

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Speaker 7: If the tournament and sorry, if the tournament started right now,

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you know, we'd be sitting in a two or three seed. Right,

611
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We're feeling really good now. There's so much more basketball

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to play, right, There's so many more opportunities to continue

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to improve that. And so we level how we set

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the schedule up couldn't have worked out better. And then

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on the on the on the other side of it

616
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is like, man, we've got to play in events and

617
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marquee venues that like these are lifelong experiences. To play

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in the Boston Garden, right, to play the Madison Square

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Garden and not just get a buzzer beater. But we've

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we've been able to do some things as a team

621
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that I think are gonna go way past you know,

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the wins losses record not gonna not gonna be long

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time memories, but also help us come big twelve play like,

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I feel like we've we've put ourselves in so many

625
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good situations and you know, late game situations, having to

626
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scheme defensively, scheme offensively, be pushed.

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Speaker 2: Where last year, right, I think our non conference was

628
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ranked threugher then the three fifties, right, three forties, and

629
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it just just didn't.

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Speaker 7: Prepare us for the big the gauntlet of the Big twelve,

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And all of a sudden, we're sitting two and four

632
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,559
trying to figure things out where I feel like we've

633
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,160
we've done that so far, and look, we're gonna have

634
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a lot of things we have to figure out as

635
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the Big twelve goes.

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Speaker 2: But I feel like we're with We're we're better prepared,

637
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come come.

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Speaker 3: You know, in the new year, you definitely are better prepared.

639
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I feel like the new year compared to last year.

640
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Definitely the opponents even you know, the talent with the team.

641
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You look at who's on the roster, What do you

642
00:27:38,079 --> 00:27:40,000
think this group is accomplishable? What you said is the

643
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number one thing that they've done, you know, through ten

644
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eleven games so far.

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Speaker 7: You know what I think, First, we've shown some resiliency.

646
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You know, obviously we would like we start off games better.

647
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Speaker 2: It's just the truth.

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Speaker 7: I thought we took a step against riverside of imposing

649
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our will a little bit more from the start of

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the game. But I think you're resiliency to you know,

651
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make adjustments in the second half, communicate simple things what

652
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we need to do better. I think one thing with commences, man,

653
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I think we've been really good defensively, mixing it up,

654
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,480
imposing our will pressure wise on the ball, off the ball,

655
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doubling the ball, and trying to like you know, turn

656
00:28:14,799 --> 00:28:17,680
up our aggression a little bit to get things going.

657
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But I think, like everyone always talks about, you know,

658
00:28:20,039 --> 00:28:22,680
coach Kevin Young, an offensive line in the NBA, But

659
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I think, like what we've done defensively this year, and

660
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it helps to have players that can guard. But I

661
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,799
think what we've done defensive this year, no team, no

662
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,400
BYU team, has ever been able to guard this way

663
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,480
in my opinion, with the length, the athleticism, the rim

664
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protection and just the on ball pressure that we've been on,

665
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Like we get so many deflections so defense, so I

666
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think we've taken a huge step. We got ways to

667
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go offensive, and we'll get there. We're kind of figuring

668
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out but that was a huge focus. And I've said

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this a number of times.

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Speaker 2: As soon as we lost Alabama and I think we

671
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gave up twenty five May threes. We're just like, if

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we want to get to where we got to get to,

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we got to be able to guard.

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Speaker 7: And I think that's the I think our resiliency in

675
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the defensive side of the basketball is where we've taken

676
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the biggest step, because the end of the day, there's

677
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a reason why Houston wins a lot of games.

678
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Speaker 2: It's because, yes, they guard, but they go on the

679
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road and they can score sixty points and they can

680
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still win.

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Speaker 7: So when your defense travels right, you can win tough,

682
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tough games, road environments.

683
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Speaker 2: And we have to be able to do that and

684
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that and that has been our emphasis.

685
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the defense has definitely picked up the priority of defense.

686
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Speaker 3: You see it, even though the offense maybe you guys

687
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haven't got off to the starts that you are, you

688
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,240
can see the defense of improvements and I feel like,

689
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you know, you the coaching staff has made those adjustments.

690
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And speaking of adjustments, what makes you and the rest

691
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of this staff, just so you know, phenomenal at that

692
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I feel like whenever you guys go on a halftime there.

693
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Obviously there's no worry from you guys, but even fans,

694
00:29:44,599 --> 00:29:46,680
I think have started to realize some of you calling

695
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,359
the second half team. I'm gonna push away from that,

696
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but I just think, you know, this staff always has

697
00:29:51,599 --> 00:29:54,160
pieces to the puzzle and is able to pass the test.

698
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You know, when you guys get back out to finish

699
00:29:57,079 --> 00:29:58,000
that final twenty.

700
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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know what we're trying to see it like,

701
00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:01,920
we got to do a little bit of better job

702
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,960
right start the games just and it's a little things

703
00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:06,200
right imposing our will and that might be like turning

704
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,960
it up defence me in terms of just you know,

705
00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:11,440
doubling or trapping or you know, pressing just a tiny

706
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,119
bit right just to get your just to get the

707
00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:15,359
vibes and the energy going, as opposed to kind of

708
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sitting on your heels and waiting to take the first punch.

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And I think that we are getting we are getting

710
00:30:20,759 --> 00:30:23,480
everybody's best shot, which is great. We got to respond

711
00:30:23,519 --> 00:30:25,000
a little bit better, But I think just in terms

712
00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:26,720
of we're going into the locker room and be like, okay,

713
00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:28,440
what is the idea of the game, what's hurting us?

714
00:30:28,759 --> 00:30:31,160
And we're able to keep it simple, address that and

715
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,039
honestly challenge our guys. It's just like, oh, you guys

716
00:30:34,079 --> 00:30:36,079
are playing great in the second half, Like yeah, like

717
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:37,640
like you know what I mean. And then we turn

718
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,119
it up like all of a sudden, you know, we're

719
00:30:39,119 --> 00:30:40,920
setting our two to one press up, We're trapping a

720
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,799
half court you know, the throwing into the post, We're

721
00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:44,839
trapping a pick and roll. And so just for us

722
00:30:44,839 --> 00:30:46,640
to be able to kind of start that from the

723
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,400
beginning of the game and kind of throw the first

724
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,359
punch then right, it's hurting us back off as opposed

725
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,680
to like taking the first punch and then figuring it

726
00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:55,960
out right. And so I think, and look, our guys

727
00:30:56,039 --> 00:30:57,960
gotta our guys gotta, we got to prepare them a

728
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,960
little bit better. But our guys gotta I'm out biting, right.

729
00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:03,759
Sometimes we're kind of serving how they're pit guarding us

730
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,079
and you know how they're doing this, and then we honestly,

731
00:31:06,119 --> 00:31:07,880
we get a little we get a little sticky with

732
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,400
the basketball on offense, where guys are you know, getting

733
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,359
to the paint and not making the best paint decisions.

734
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,839
It's like, good, we have such a dynamic trio guys

735
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,119
who can get Delane and Rob Wright, AJ and Ritchie,

736
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,079
and so it's like, hey, they're collapsing, we have to

737
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:20,960
make the extra pass.

738
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,839
Speaker 2: And then we start doing that in the second half.

739
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,839
Speaker 7: And now the paint open ups when we start punching

740
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,960
them from outside, and so I think it's it's a

741
00:31:28,039 --> 00:31:28,599
number of things.

742
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 2: But again that's why you play this non conference.

743
00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 7: You're not going to learn those things with the dur

744
00:31:32,799 --> 00:31:35,519
and fortieth schedule because you can have bad starts right

745
00:31:35,559 --> 00:31:37,480
and still be up ten twelve, or if you do

746
00:31:37,599 --> 00:31:39,920
that against Miami, or you do that against Clemson or

747
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,599
of course Yukon, like you're gonna be down twenty.

748
00:31:42,519 --> 00:31:44,039
Speaker 2: Right, And so I think that's why we do this.

749
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,119
We figured this out.

750
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 7: That's one of an area to address, and we've done

751
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,759
that and you know, we're going to continue to take

752
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,000
steps so we get better at that area.

753
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, the team has definitely gotten better at the area.

754
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,279
And speaking to someone who's also gotten better at an area,

755
00:31:57,359 --> 00:31:59,279
I mean the guy that you work with, you know,

756
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,680
the follow you because loves to be coaching about you.

757
00:32:01,799 --> 00:32:05,559
Ka Kata just speak to everything that he's just accomplished

758
00:32:05,599 --> 00:32:06,400
in the offseason.

759
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 4: You see the growth in cave. I feel like he's

760
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,880
improved from the free throw line, grab a rebounds. He

761
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,039
had a career high on blocks against my I think

762
00:32:14,039 --> 00:32:15,480
of the invitation. He's been phenomenal.

763
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

764
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 7: Look, first of all, he's a beautiful kid. He's the

765
00:32:20,279 --> 00:32:24,039
most unselfish kid maybe in college basketball. He loves screening

766
00:32:24,119 --> 00:32:26,720
for people. He loves screening for his guards. He loves,

767
00:32:26,759 --> 00:32:28,880
you know, whether it's pick and roll, whether it's off

768
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,640
the ball, whether it's screening his own.

769
00:32:30,599 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: Man and the paint so his man can't block a shot.

770
00:32:33,079 --> 00:32:34,319
The Kata is so unselfish.

771
00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:37,039
Speaker 7: And those kids are easy to coach, right when all

772
00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:39,240
they care about is making the right play and winning

773
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,359
and and and look, he's got some guy given talent

774
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,519
with his athletic ability and his his shot blocking timing.

775
00:32:45,559 --> 00:32:47,000
You know, he's a volleyball player, right, and so he

776
00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:49,079
has the timing of when the when the senter is

777
00:32:49,079 --> 00:32:51,200
gonna the shooter is the center, and he knows when

778
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,680
that shooter is gonna set the ball so we can

779
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,880
go spike into a spike out of bounds. But look, honestly,

780
00:32:56,039 --> 00:32:59,160
last year around February, you know, we want him to

781
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,039
be more comfortable with the basketball, and Kevin and I

782
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:04,799
and Jordan Brady, who kind of heads up player development

783
00:33:04,839 --> 00:33:07,759
on our staff, was like, let's work on his perimeter skills.

784
00:33:07,799 --> 00:33:09,559
So he's nothing he's ever going to shoot a bunch

785
00:33:09,599 --> 00:33:11,519
of threes or come up a handoff or come up

786
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:14,920
with pick and roll. Wanted to be comfortable with the

787
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,599
basketball in his hands in this offseasons to make plays.

788
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,359
And so honestly, we're doing a lot of guard work right,

789
00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:23,319
and and I think you see it translating with him

790
00:33:23,319 --> 00:33:26,000
being comfortable out there. He's worked his tail up the

791
00:33:26,039 --> 00:33:27,839
free thow line, right, he's worked his tail up and

792
00:33:28,119 --> 00:33:30,359
getting extra shots. But honestly, he's worked his tail off

793
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,079
with you know, our performance mental performance coach and and

794
00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:36,319
and and just the proactive mindset of what you're telling

795
00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:39,039
yourself miss or make. And so that's a credit to

796
00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:43,119
Kaba and Hit the mental performance staff that's put the

797
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,559
time in. And he's a senior, right, there's a swagger

798
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,680
and there's a confidence that comes with seniors that have

799
00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:50,680
been doing this for three plus years and they walk

800
00:33:50,759 --> 00:33:52,279
on the My thing with Kate was like, hey, well

801
00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:54,839
when you walk on the court like you're the biggest

802
00:33:54,839 --> 00:33:56,160
you're the baddest and most athletic and.

803
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: Your oldest dude out here, right, and you got to

804
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:58,359
believe that.

805
00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 7: And so you know, and and he's a very unique

806
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,519
kid where it's like he's pretty easy to motivate, like

807
00:34:03,559 --> 00:34:05,680
you can make stuff up, you know. I think Shaq

808
00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:07,960
was this way right where he's like, man, Cable, I'm

809
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,239
just telling you, this is what I read in the press.

810
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,840
This kid said he's coming at you like you just said,

811
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,039
he's not worried about you, right, And Cable will kind

812
00:34:13,039 --> 00:34:14,719
of look at you like okay, right, and.

813
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,639
Speaker 2: Then they'll start he'll start taping.

814
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 7: His hands up like he's a boxer. So there's certain things.

815
00:34:19,039 --> 00:34:21,079
There's certain things right there that you know, having coach

816
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:24,400
the kid and understanding the way he what makes him tick, right,

817
00:34:24,559 --> 00:34:25,880
that as part of the you know, as part of

818
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,280
the relationship building process that I've had with that with Kiba, and.

819
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: I know how to get him going, right. I know

820
00:34:31,039 --> 00:34:31,480
the film to.

821
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,039
Speaker 7: Watch with them to get him going and to kind

822
00:34:33,039 --> 00:34:35,840
of tick him off a little bit. And I'm gonna

823
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,559
keep going back to it double down, Like he's such

824
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:40,679
a phenomenal teammate where it's like ca bit man like

825
00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:43,920
these guys need you right, These guys need you to

826
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,719
roll hard, these guys need you to block that shot,

827
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,679
these guys and and like he does.

828
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: It for his teammates first and foremost.

829
00:34:49,559 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 7: He's he's the most unselfish kid I probably ever coached

830
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,280
in terms of just like how can I how can

831
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,840
I like get my guys open right?

832
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: And always asking for is a couple of lobs every game.

833
00:35:00,159 --> 00:35:02,039
Just throw him a couple. He's good.

834
00:35:03,079 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 4: Hey, he's definitely been good.

835
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 1: Uh.

836
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 3: You know, he dumps the ball so hard, caught a

837
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,880
couple of bodies to on some uh some uh what

838
00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:12,559
is it? You got Utah ties as well, So I

839
00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:14,000
know he'll be able to take that back when they

840
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,639
all meet up in the offseason. He'll be had to

841
00:35:16,639 --> 00:35:18,039
take a couple of those. Of all his funny games,

842
00:35:18,079 --> 00:35:21,280
you know how it goes the competition. Speaking of guys,

843
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,840
you know, unselfish opportunity when you get your thoughts just

844
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,880
on little open Shaw coming in sounds like he's gonna

845
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:27,480
serve a mission.

846
00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:29,679
Speaker 4: And then Dean will come in right away next year.

847
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, we're excited about those young men. They've been friends

848
00:35:32,679 --> 00:35:36,400
and teammates for a long time. Uh, local kids been what. Look,

849
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,760
I've known Dean since he was a little kid. His

850
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,079
oldest sister and my oldest daughter were club volleyball teammates,

851
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,719
and so I've known them and their family since.

852
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 2: Honestly, Dean was like ten years old. It just happened,

853
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:49,920
You just I did.

854
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 7: Not realize he was gonna be a six foot eight,

855
00:35:52,599 --> 00:35:56,039
you know, wet ball, you know what I mean, like

856
00:35:56,159 --> 00:35:58,719
four star recruit. It just kind of worked out that way.

857
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,320
He's got a wonderful family. We are super excited about.

858
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,519
First of all, talk Dean like he fits what we're

859
00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:06,320
trying to do. He's gonna come in right away. But

860
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,440
you know, he lights out from three. He's he wants,

861
00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:12,920
he wants to be good, and he's grown up.

862
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 2: Loving b y U.

863
00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 7: And when you get those kids, you know this, right

864
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,440
when you get those kids that that name on the

865
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,199
front of the jersey means so much to him. It's

866
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,960
like Richie like they do. They do extraordinary things in

867
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,320
the Marit Center. So we can't wait to get him

868
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,079
on campus. You know, Will is one of these kind

869
00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:32,519
of late developers, right, you know, two or three years

870
00:36:32,519 --> 00:36:34,480
ago in the AU circuit, he was you know, he

871
00:36:34,599 --> 00:36:37,239
was on like the B the B team for you know,

872
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,440
one of the one of the main prospect teams out here.

873
00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 2: And he continue to grow. He cantinue to work to develop,

874
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:43,199
and you can see.

875
00:36:43,079 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 7: It right, you can see his confidence grow and all

876
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,480
of a sudden, he's a six nine kind of stretch

877
00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:50,199
four you know, can play some five kid that's like man.

878
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,159
That kid comes back from his mission, puts some weight on.

879
00:36:52,199 --> 00:36:53,760
He's got the right mentality, and he's gonna have come

880
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,079
out and every freaking work like Dean. But we love

881
00:36:56,119 --> 00:36:58,000
the way he looks at the game, We love the

882
00:36:58,039 --> 00:37:00,239
way his improvements come over last through four years. And

883
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,719
we just felt he's a kid that come, you know,

884
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,440
a couple of years mission. Things like that he can

885
00:37:06,519 --> 00:37:08,719
come and help us and put on and another kid

886
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:09,400
who grew up love on.

887
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 2: The hy as well. So we're excited about those two

888
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:12,199
young men.

889
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 7: Great kids fit what we're trying to do, will represent

890
00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:18,440
b YU and the mission of b y U as

891
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,000
good as any any student student and student athlete here.

892
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,559
And they've just been a joy to recruit, to get

893
00:37:24,599 --> 00:37:27,639
to know them and their families. So we're excited about them.

894
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,599
And and you know, we've told them how hard. This

895
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,559
is and and they want it right and and that's important.

896
00:37:33,519 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 3: Well, coach, I appreciate you you sharing that always have

897
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,039
told people, you know, ever since you know the changes

898
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:43,519
have happened. Look, you know the AJ's, the robs, they matter,

899
00:37:44,519 --> 00:37:47,519
but you know, your own backyard is really where it starts.

900
00:37:47,559 --> 00:37:49,320
And Dean and Will and I love that they're coming

901
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,480
in and how to be able to grow the program

902
00:37:51,559 --> 00:37:53,239
and the local products is so important.

903
00:37:54,119 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 4: You need those the richies they really do matter.

904
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 3: You know, the fuses that come into this program there

905
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,119
they're you know, one in a million, so you can

906
00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:02,159
miss I don't know, so grateful that we'll be able

907
00:38:02,159 --> 00:38:03,719
to see those guys in the next coming years.

908
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:04,119
Speaker 4: For sure.

909
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 3: I do want to ask, this is the plan for

910
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,519
Abdullah to maybe to get him to play this season?

911
00:38:08,559 --> 00:38:11,079
I know kJ is gonna red shirt or is that

912
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,760
you know that's still a work in progress.

913
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 2: It's kind of a work in progress.

914
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,559
Speaker 7: We're just kind of figuring things out kind of where

915
00:38:18,599 --> 00:38:20,559
you know, obviously we'll get here and kind of see

916
00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:23,000
where he's at mentally and physically and and kind of

917
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,400
see where the roster shakes up.

918
00:38:24,559 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: And we want to make sure every we think everything through.

919
00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 7: You know, you think about obviously the pros and the

920
00:38:30,639 --> 00:38:33,320
and the potential unintended consequences at the same time, Right,

921
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,320
we want to do the right thing for a the

922
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,800
kid Abdullah, and of course we want to do the

923
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,760
right thing for b y U basketball and the team.

924
00:38:41,519 --> 00:38:43,599
So it's kind of work in progress where we're you know,

925
00:38:43,679 --> 00:38:46,280
we'll see when he arise and kind of talk to that.

926
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 3: Okay, last thing, we'll get you out on this. I

927
00:38:48,519 --> 00:38:50,639
know your time is pressure just to scout and report

928
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,119
on the old w c c FO Pacific. Yeah, and

929
00:38:53,199 --> 00:38:54,159
now what do you see on film?

930
00:38:54,519 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 7: You know what, look a team that you know they

931
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,960
went in, a team that plays really really hard.

932
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 2: They're very well coached. This coach Coach Coach is one.

933
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,559
Speaker 7: Of the most famous coaches, one of the all time

934
00:39:06,599 --> 00:39:09,719
winning his coaches in Canada basketball, Canada college basketball. And

935
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,880
he played a very unique defensive style where they're influencing

936
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,320
everything to the left hand. So whether you're garden the post,

937
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,119
where the garden perimeter, where your garden ball screen, they

938
00:39:17,159 --> 00:39:18,559
send everything to the left side of the floor.

939
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,559
Speaker 2: And your weekend something we haven't faced before.

940
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,679
Speaker 7: You know, they took a lot of transfers Florida transfer

941
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,320
a DAT and transfer right a main transfer. They're just

942
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,320
filled with a bunch of transfers, and so a lot

943
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,960
of pick and roll, a lot of isolation basketball. And

944
00:39:33,039 --> 00:39:35,000
then what this coach is really good at offensively, he

945
00:39:35,519 --> 00:39:37,920
he lives in this environment of what's working. Right, A

946
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,039
lot of coaches you'll see is like, run this play,

947
00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:41,599
and then run that play and run this. Now this

948
00:39:41,679 --> 00:39:43,880
coach is like, all right, that's working. I'm going back

949
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,159
to it. And there's multiple options and outcomes out of it,

950
00:39:46,199 --> 00:39:49,039
and so we have to be dialed in on on that.

951
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,719
You look, they went into cal Berkeley, you know, and

952
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,480
COL is coming off a win against Utah. Col was

953
00:39:54,519 --> 00:39:56,920
coming up a win against UCLA, and they went into

954
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,320
cal Berkeley and is a one possession game with three minutes,

955
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,800
and so you know, I can't I'd have to look

956
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,599
at the net this morning, but I think this is

957
00:40:03,639 --> 00:40:08,519
a potential plot to type game for us and and

958
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,239
and you know they're coming in here to take you know,

959
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,239
to take the Kings down, and this game has been

960
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,320
circled for them, right. This is their opportunity to come

961
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,480
in against you know, a top ten team and in

962
00:40:17,599 --> 00:40:20,119
an amazing environment that you know they've been in before

963
00:40:20,199 --> 00:40:21,800
in terms of the w c C.

964
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Speaker 2: But our guys will be locked in.

965
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 7: Our guys are so excited to get to be home

966
00:40:26,639 --> 00:40:30,840
right on our home stretch of games. But they got

967
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,559
they got a team that two dynamic scores and Elias

968
00:40:34,679 --> 00:40:36,679
Ralph and t J. Wayne Wright, and they got a

969
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,880
dynamic playmaker pass first guard and Jade and Clayton, and

970
00:40:41,159 --> 00:40:42,960
so this is a team that we were gonna be

971
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,639
locked in. We only had we had short prep, but

972
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,760
we'll be we'll be ready to go and you know,

973
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,239
protect protect our home court.

974
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,639
Speaker 3: I'll be excited to see tonight how you guys have

975
00:40:51,639 --> 00:40:54,079
gone Ralph and and Wayne Wright for for sure.

976
00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 4: And you mentioned Cal.

977
00:40:55,039 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 3: Everybody knows who's the coach at caw So yeah, right,

978
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,280
one possession game there there, we know what type of

979
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,039
coaches at Cal.

980
00:41:01,199 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: So.

981
00:41:01,639 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 4: Hey, this distract. It seems like you guys are locked in.

982
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,159
Speaker 3: Coach, thank you for your time today and we will

983
00:41:06,199 --> 00:41:08,119
definitely catch up with you later in the season.

984
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 4: Appreciate today, of course, man, I appreciate you as well. Okay, guys,

985
00:41:12,039 --> 00:41:13,599
we will go to break, don't go anywhere. Still a

986
00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:14,119
lot more to get to.

987
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 3: But that was Chris Burgess, the BYU men's and basketball

988
00:41:16,639 --> 00:41:18,639
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1007
00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:07,920
news was announced while we were playing the interview with

1008
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,679
Chris Burgess earlier from this morning made my tickes in

1009
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,599
the first segment, ALEXI Coastage will not be available tonight,

1010
00:42:14,639 --> 00:42:17,320
per Gargabella in the pregame show with Kevin Young, the

1011
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,639
guard is unavailable tonight been due to illness against Pacific,

1012
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,880
So ben big deal or not a big deal?

1013
00:42:23,599 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 6: I think this is a big deal. I think it's

1014
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,039
a bigger deal than everybody wants to let on.

1015
00:42:27,199 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 7: Now.

1016
00:42:27,639 --> 00:42:31,119
Speaker 6: Granted we're in December. What matters is March. What matters

1017
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:35,760
is February. Okay, but you have to win in Big

1018
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,280
twelve Play, and you need to get prepared right now

1019
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,400
for Big twelve Play. You need these three games for

1020
00:42:44,159 --> 00:42:49,639
Alexi Mahilo. I'd even say Dominique Diamida. I know JT's

1021
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,320
completely sold on him. I'm not completely sold on him

1022
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,719
just yet. I know he's gonna come along. You need

1023
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,960
them to get refined, and Pacific is one of those

1024
00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:04,960
refining games prior to Big twelve play that I think.

1025
00:43:05,119 --> 00:43:07,639
Even though it's a quad three opportunities you mentioned, it's

1026
00:43:07,679 --> 00:43:09,280
the only quad three game that we have thus far.

1027
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,840
We have we have four quad ones I think, two

1028
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,519
quad twos and then uh maybe an additional I think

1029
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:19,239
four quad fours, four fours. Yes, guys, this is this

1030
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,960
is a good team. You look at who they've who

1031
00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:24,639
they've competed against.

1032
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,159
Speaker 5: On the road. They almost took down Cal on the road.

1033
00:43:29,199 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 4: And Mark math is a good coach.

1034
00:43:31,159 --> 00:43:35,559
Speaker 6: That that's a one lost Cal team. Very good and

1035
00:43:36,199 --> 00:43:40,719
well coached is this specific team. So this is one

1036
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,639
of those games. I know BWA is a heavy favorite,

1037
00:43:42,639 --> 00:43:44,519
and they should be there at home, and they're they're

1038
00:43:44,519 --> 00:43:48,039
they're very talented, and they're well coached and well resourced

1039
00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:51,559
and all those things. But we need a Lexi in

1040
00:43:51,639 --> 00:43:54,519
this game. He like, there's a lot of sicknesses going around.

1041
00:43:54,559 --> 00:44:01,400
There's there's corona, there's neuroviruses, there's flu bug. We've seen it, man,

1042
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,519
there's a lot of bugs going around. Make sure you're

1043
00:44:03,519 --> 00:44:06,159
taking your vitamins. Make sure you're taking your zinc, man,

1044
00:44:06,199 --> 00:44:07,800
so you don't get that viral replication.

1045
00:44:09,199 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 4: I don't like it.

1046
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:10,519
Speaker 5: I don't like it.

1047
00:44:10,639 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 6: I wanted to see the accelerated learning and productivity and

1048
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:21,480
cohesion with Alexi, with that second unit led by Ajdabonsa.

1049
00:44:21,559 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 5: To me, this's a big deal. I don't like it

1050
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:23,320
one bit.

1051
00:44:24,039 --> 00:44:24,639
Speaker 4: That's a big deal.

1052
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 3: I think this is a bigger deal than people need

1053
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,119
to I'm not gonna say the sky is falling, but.

1054
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 4: Look, we just heard from Chris Burgess. We talked about

1055
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:32,679
it in the first segment.

1056
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 3: Look, if guys are getting sick, you already had Richie sick,

1057
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,039
Diamande was sick and didn't participated in the game against

1058
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,119
California Baptist, and now Alexi coach is just sick against this.

1059
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,679
If this happens in conference play, remember they've had guys

1060
00:44:44,679 --> 00:44:47,480
sick the last two or three season, excuse me, seasons

1061
00:44:48,119 --> 00:44:50,960
on the road when they've made those East Coast trips. Look,

1062
00:44:51,039 --> 00:44:53,440
if you don't have guys healthy and you're lacking in

1063
00:44:53,519 --> 00:44:55,719
portant garb depth. I just said it earlier, Ben, you

1064
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,519
might kJ Perry and Abdullah could play this season if

1065
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,440
they they have another injury or illnesses. Look, and that's

1066
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:03,159
not hygh perblely.

1067
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 4: Now you can't.

1068
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 3: Luckily, this is non conference and like you said December,

1069
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,440
you want to be peaking in February towards the end

1070
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:08,760
of March.

1071
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,599
Speaker 4: But you can't have this lack of depth.

1072
00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:13,039
Speaker 3: You already down Dawson Baker, you already down in Ny

1073
00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:16,280
Picketts and Alexi, who is playing by obligation now with

1074
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,920
aj and you like that combination of what it was

1075
00:45:19,039 --> 00:45:21,079
last game not gonna be available against.

1076
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:22,639
Speaker 4: Like you mentioned a good Pacific team.

1077
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,599
Speaker 3: The coach Dave Smart, one of the best coaches in

1078
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,719
Canada leading the Pacific Tigers. Now the record, don't get

1079
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,239
confused by the record. Everybody likes to look at numbers,

1080
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:31,960
and numbers are great.

1081
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,119
Speaker 4: They do say a lot about it.

1082
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 3: And I know that BYU's favorite in this matchup per

1083
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,360
ESPN Matchup Predictor ninety six to nine, Pacific has a

1084
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,480
three point one percent. But that's a good three point

1085
00:45:41,559 --> 00:45:44,159
one percent, like you already mentioned. Man, Now I know

1086
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,760
that they haven't won, you know, in provo like that.

1087
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,920
BA is one of the last six straight at the Marriotte.

1088
00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:50,760
Last time they won was an eighty one to sixty

1089
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,039
sixth victory in their final meeting as a member of

1090
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:56,840
the West Coast Conference foes. But Jaden Clayton, I went

1091
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,039
back and I watched tape. The dribble handoff is nice.

1092
00:45:59,079 --> 00:46:01,760
And he also averages one point three steals a game.

1093
00:46:02,199 --> 00:46:05,880
And don't get me wrong, Elias Ralph and you know TJ.

1094
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,519
Wainwright are gonna do a lot of the scoring. But

1095
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,480
Clayton is a good passer. You know who else is

1096
00:46:10,519 --> 00:46:13,199
a good passer? Rob Right, So they don't turn the

1097
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,679
ball over that much unless you put pressure. So Ben,

1098
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,599
I think what you're gonna see tonight is full court

1099
00:46:17,679 --> 00:46:21,159
pressure from Kevin Young squad to slow Pacific down. Because

1100
00:46:21,159 --> 00:46:23,440
if Jaden Clayton is starting to get off, and then

1101
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,079
you add when Ralph is hitting shots, Wayne Right and

1102
00:46:26,119 --> 00:46:27,719
then you let Isaac Jack get in the mix is

1103
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,039
another contributor BYU can be in trouble.

1104
00:46:30,119 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 4: Like don't be surprised the Pacific kept is close.

1105
00:46:33,039 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 3: In the beginning, and the reason I bring it up

1106
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,039
is Delaware gave BYU issues right away when they hit shots.

1107
00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:39,880
This team has already proven they've been on the road.

1108
00:46:40,119 --> 00:46:42,199
They have confidence. They're gonna come in and shoot the

1109
00:46:42,199 --> 00:46:45,280
basketball when you know you're already down talent wise and

1110
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,480
they have a player out and they're lacking depth. If

1111
00:46:47,519 --> 00:46:49,360
you're the coaching staff, you're saying, go in there, find

1112
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:50,760
your shot early, take shots.

1113
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 4: So I would not be surprised if Pacific came out teaching.

1114
00:46:53,039 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 3: But hopefully BYU's defense, which I think has started to

1115
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,599
be the clay of this team, Ben will shut them down.

1116
00:46:59,199 --> 00:47:01,400
I'll give my score prediction really quickly and my keys

1117
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,519
to the game before you give yours before we get

1118
00:47:03,519 --> 00:47:05,000
out of here, and I had down a pro to cover.

1119
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 4: Look, it's very simple.

1120
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 3: Full court press now, especially even with the Alexi out,

1121
00:47:09,559 --> 00:47:12,880
slow them down in transition, Gartha Permeter, well, make them

1122
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:17,400
take extremely tough contested threes. Do not let them operate

1123
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,840
in the pick and roll and throw lobs and let

1124
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,679
Jayden start to get comfortable. When that happens, this team

1125
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,159
is very, very dangerous. They like to run that picch

1126
00:47:25,199 --> 00:47:26,920
and action. They run everything to the left, so you

1127
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,119
know what that means. Force them right, don't let them

1128
00:47:29,199 --> 00:47:31,840
go off that way. Get them uncomfortable, and let Aj

1129
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,719
get people in foul trouble. Here's the where it's stat.

1130
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,800
AJ's drawn what I think five fouls the last five games.

1131
00:47:37,159 --> 00:47:39,320
Let him put someone in foul trouble and then of

1132
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,639
course rebound the basketball. Ben I think Bau covers this game.

1133
00:47:42,679 --> 00:47:44,360
I think they pull away. Like you said in the

1134
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,760
second half late, give me BYU to win this game.

1135
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,920
I'm gonna go ninety one to fifty eight. I think

1136
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,199
Boa wants this game ninety one to fifty eighth. They cover,

1137
00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:55,440
they get out unscathed, everybody's healthy, and hopefully they'll.

1138
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 4: Get Alexi back. Next game. What's your score prediction for

1139
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:58,119
this game?

1140
00:47:58,599 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll give you my breakdown.

1141
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 6: This ninety one Cougar team, top ten ap pole, number

1142
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,559
six and net rating most talented team ever to come

1143
00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:10,880
through Brigham Young University. And I lean on guys like

1144
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,559
Kyle Collinsworth, Kyle former by great. I call him the

1145
00:48:14,599 --> 00:48:15,679
triple double King.

1146
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 5: He's been.

1147
00:48:17,079 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 6: He was down at practice earlier this week and just

1148
00:48:21,039 --> 00:48:24,360
getting his eyes on this squad, right and how just

1149
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,559
truly remarkable, how special this team.

1150
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 5: Is and is going to be as long as they

1151
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:31,400
stay healthy.

1152
00:48:31,519 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 6: Right knock on wood, he said, Biloy basketball look good

1153
00:48:34,199 --> 00:48:37,000
and practical, A khy has an elite culture and vibe.

1154
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:42,639
Would be fun coach to play for. That's what's different.

1155
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,119
That's what makes this team so great is the culture

1156
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,280
is tremendous as well.

1157
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 5: So love this team.

1158
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 6: And right now the Cougars are on what like a

1159
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:58,440
twenty three home win streak, right and so I expect

1160
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:06,440
to win, expect BYU to cover. But we got to

1161
00:49:06,679 --> 00:49:09,079
start the first half just a little bit more efficient,

1162
00:49:09,199 --> 00:49:13,559
more effective from the three point line, right, Like somebody

1163
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:19,679
outside of aj I feel like, is Rob a good

1164
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,360
distributor in the first half. Is he a good creator

1165
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,719
in the first half. I feel like second half becomes

1166
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:29,280
the AJ show. So do you want the AJ show

1167
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,199
to occur the first half? You may have to give

1168
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,800
him the ball and say you're the point guard. And

1169
00:49:35,559 --> 00:49:40,039
I hate to relegate Rob to a secondary role here,

1170
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,159
but I think some of the issue right now in

1171
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,599
the first half is that we want to go traditional.

1172
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:48,119
Speaker 5: With Rob at the point.

1173
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 6: So I'm asking that AJ get a little bit more

1174
00:49:52,039 --> 00:49:54,559
involved in the first half as a distributor, as a playmaker,

1175
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,400
because every time he does he takes over the second half.

1176
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,400
Let's have him take over the first half to start

1177
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,320
it off. You don't want to mess around and find

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out with specific BYU covers BYU covers tonight ninety five

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sixty five coups get.

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Speaker 3: The win like a thirty point dub. Like you mentioned,

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I agree. I think AJ with the Lexi out, will

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take the ball more in his hand. Look, I'm just

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gonna shoot one of the stars for the moon. AJ

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could have double digit assistant at a career high because

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of the illness, not due necessarily to opponent. Because of

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the illness. Guys that will do it from us. That's

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all the time We have for today. You can catch

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a game on ESPN Plus. The call will be with

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Dave McCain and Blame Fowler and Spencer Linsen on the sideline.

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If you're going down to the game, please travel safe

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from all of us here for the Cougar basketball pre game.

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Speaker 4: Have a good night, have a safe night.

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Speaker 3: You will listen to the Cougar basketball pre game on

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one O three nine in ninety eight three ESPN