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We'll get in some Big twelve news 31 00:01:18,239 --> 00:01:20,439 and notes, by the way, Big twelve news and notes 32 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:21,879 from a Big twelve insider. 33 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: John Kurtz taken to social media recently. 34 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,519 Speaker 2: He said, in my fifteen year broadcasting career, I've been 35 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,799 to games in Texas, I've been to games at Oklahoma. 36 00:01:30,799 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 3: I've been to games in the SEC, the Big Ten, 37 00:01:32,359 --> 00:01:33,439 the Fiesta Bowl, connon Bol. 38 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:38,079 Speaker 2: The best college sports road trip I've taken is hiding 39 00:01:38,159 --> 00:01:42,439 in plain Sight in Provo and Utah Valley. I'm like, 40 00:01:42,519 --> 00:01:46,079 all right, that's hey, strong words, strong commentary. Look the 41 00:01:46,159 --> 00:01:48,599 bou fans, we want to put our pat ourselves on 42 00:01:48,719 --> 00:01:50,760 the back if you will and say, yeah, we got 43 00:01:50,799 --> 00:01:53,359 a great environment at Lavelle, we got a great environment 44 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,560 at the Marriott Center. We got great things to do 45 00:01:55,719 --> 00:01:58,640 here in Utah and in Proving Utah Valley? Is it 46 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,879 the best environ I don't know, man, It's all subjective. 47 00:02:01,959 --> 00:02:05,239 Everyone has different taste, every strokes for different folks, if 48 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,519 you know what I mean. But shout out to John 49 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,159 Kurtz or give them some love to brig them and provo. 50 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,800 Let's get out to the hotline. Welcome in Big twelve 51 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,599 Insider on the tune in app. That's right, Big twelve 52 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,439 Radio on tune in. We got Ari Tempkin on the light. 53 00:02:19,479 --> 00:02:20,680 All right, how the heck are you? 54 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:22,719 Speaker 4: I'm great man? How are you? Buddy? 55 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 3: Living the dream man? 56 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,599 Speaker 2: Just talking ball, solving the problems of the day, commenting 57 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:27,800 on all the problems of the day. 58 00:02:28,159 --> 00:02:30,039 Speaker 3: What's keeping you busy today? How was your show? 59 00:02:31,319 --> 00:02:33,719 Speaker 4: Yeah? No, I mean you know, and I saw you 60 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,919 were on Twitter talking a little bit about Darren Peterson 61 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,840 and that's obviously been a huge talking point kind of throughout. 62 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,680 But we're also we're going through the top newcomers at 63 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,479 each position across the Big twelve. So we've kind of 64 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,639 we concluded our series that there with specialists. So we've 65 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,919 gone through every position and the top five newcomers every position. 66 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,719 Interestingly enough BYU, not many newcomers on the defensive side 67 00:02:56,719 --> 00:02:57,039 of the ball. 68 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, true, So we learned. 69 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,719 Speaker 4: A lot, I think about the conference as we had 70 00:03:01,719 --> 00:03:04,439 in the spring practice here. So look, football season never sleeps, 71 00:03:04,439 --> 00:03:06,719 and even though basketball seasons heating up, you still always 72 00:03:06,719 --> 00:03:08,240 have to keep one eye on football season, you know. 73 00:03:08,879 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, so your band with you know, with with with, 74 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,680 let's talk about the newcomers here, like in the Big twelve? 75 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,080 Who who do you think I guess did the best 76 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,159 in the transfer portal this offseason from the Big twelve? Like, 77 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,560 who came out on top with the transfer portal additions? 78 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 3: Would you say? 79 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,319 Speaker 4: Well, I mean Texas Tech, you know, I mean, and 80 00:03:29,879 --> 00:03:32,919 it's obvious from a standpoint of the money that they've spent, 81 00:03:33,479 --> 00:03:36,039 you know, they needed to improve on the defensive side. 82 00:03:36,039 --> 00:03:38,039 And that's where I think like it's an interesting series 83 00:03:38,159 --> 00:03:40,479 because you know, not all the best teams are going 84 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,639 to be active in the portal because a lot of 85 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,719 these teams that we're gonna be talking about as we 86 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,080 gear for the season, you know, are returning many of 87 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,759 their key players, and so Texas tack was not one 88 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,759 of them, especially on defense. You know, they were turning 89 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,680 key players at running back, they were turned key players 90 00:03:53,719 --> 00:03:56,319 at different positions, but not on the defensive side of football. 91 00:03:56,759 --> 00:03:58,360 So I mean they went out and spent the money. 92 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,759 I mean, they brought in Trey White, know, a defensive 93 00:04:00,879 --> 00:04:03,919 end from San Diego State. They brought an Austin Remaine 94 00:04:03,919 --> 00:04:06,800 from Kansas State. You know, they really beefed up their 95 00:04:06,879 --> 00:04:09,800 linebacking corps and their defensive lines as the portal and 96 00:04:10,639 --> 00:04:12,840 you know, look, I mean I don't I don't know 97 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,360 that they're going to be close to as good as 98 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,439 they were defensively last year, because they were historically great defensively. 99 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,399 But they started a ton of money on that side 100 00:04:19,439 --> 00:04:21,600 of football, and we'll see what they look like. And 101 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,199 I think offensively they've also obviously improved there and you know, 102 00:04:25,319 --> 00:04:27,680 and we'll see how sores B goes in that offense. 103 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,079 But I don't think they need to be as good 104 00:04:30,079 --> 00:04:32,199 as they were defensively last year, but they need to 105 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,560 be dramatically improved offensively because you know, what we saw 106 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,240 against the Oregon just wasn't good enough. Other teams like 107 00:04:38,319 --> 00:04:40,240 I think West Virginia made a lot of hay in 108 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,639 the portal. They you know, they invested a ton in 109 00:04:43,759 --> 00:04:47,120 some younger prospects and and you know, I mean they 110 00:04:47,199 --> 00:04:49,000 have a couple of five stars coming in, including a 111 00:04:49,079 --> 00:04:51,720 kid named Matt Seeg who was kind of a small 112 00:04:51,879 --> 00:04:56,079 small school warrior superstar who played quarterback and was, you know, 113 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,879 kind of a monster in Pennsylvania. He committed to penn State, 114 00:04:59,519 --> 00:05:02,759 decommit and goes to West Virginia. The interesting thing about 115 00:05:02,759 --> 00:05:05,160 what West Virginia has done though, is, you know, when 116 00:05:05,199 --> 00:05:07,759 you look at what they've had from a talent perspective, 117 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,399 they've had a difficult time, certainly in O'Neil Brown and 118 00:05:12,519 --> 00:05:15,160 retaining their best guys. You know, we just saw a 119 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,120 key messador at Miami Go turn himself into a first 120 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:19,920 round pick. I mean, that was a kid that was 121 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,600 initially at West Virginia one of the best defensive ends 122 00:05:22,639 --> 00:05:24,879 of the Big twelve. But he leaves for more money 123 00:05:24,879 --> 00:05:27,040 and we've seen that. So it's you know, it's an 124 00:05:27,079 --> 00:05:30,079 interesting strategy. I think from a standpoint of West Virginia 125 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,360 has not done a good enough job entertaining their top players. 126 00:05:32,399 --> 00:05:34,680 So you know, they're strategy in the portal. You'd think 127 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,079 maybe you go after some of the more known commodities 128 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,040 guys that have produced and have put up you know, 129 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:40,839 have had a lot of snaps and put up numbers. 130 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:42,759 But really what they've done is they brought in a 131 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,480 ton of guys that were either four or five star 132 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,120 prospects previously that are looking for a fresh start, or 133 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,600 four or five star prospects that they were able to 134 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,879 bring in that are going to be freshman this upcoming season. 135 00:05:53,959 --> 00:05:56,720 But they have a lot of talent and I'm very intrigued, 136 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,959 especially by what they did at the quarterback position. I 137 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,040 also like what you see has done UCF kinds in 138 00:06:01,079 --> 00:06:03,839 the opposite where they did go after guys that have produced, 139 00:06:04,079 --> 00:06:07,480 they from smaller schools, and I love what they did 140 00:06:07,519 --> 00:06:10,279 at the quarterback position too. So I think two programs 141 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,920 that need to improve in year two with their coaches, 142 00:06:12,959 --> 00:06:15,279 and two that from a talent perspective have done that. 143 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,199 Speaker 2: Give me your thoughts on this, Like I've gotten back 144 00:06:18,199 --> 00:06:21,839 and forth with friends with the coworkers, et cetera about 145 00:06:22,079 --> 00:06:23,720 is it better to go out in an ac choir 146 00:06:23,959 --> 00:06:26,800 or is it better to retain in this college football 147 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,680 Transfer Portal World, right, Like, especially if you've won, right 148 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,160 you're winning the BA for instance, it's it's it's the 149 00:06:34,759 --> 00:06:36,680 it's the situation where they've got eleven and two and 150 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,480 twelve and two. You know, they weren't able to beat 151 00:06:39,519 --> 00:06:41,040 Texas Tech. I mean they were and they were far 152 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,879 from beating them. They were at times competitive, but they're 153 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,199 far from beating them. It's like, Okay, well you should 154 00:06:47,199 --> 00:06:50,920 go out and find better players, right b YU retained 155 00:06:50,959 --> 00:06:55,079 their players and only strategically went out and got nine transfers. 156 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,079 I mean there's a few others too that were like 157 00:06:57,199 --> 00:06:59,319 more like PWO walk Ons. 158 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: I think they got. 159 00:07:01,519 --> 00:07:05,879 Speaker 2: Noo Cy Tum will Pay's older brother out of Eastern Washington. 160 00:07:05,959 --> 00:07:09,800 And they picked up Seth Schigg from Army, a converted 161 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:14,519 quarterback playing cornerback. But you know, is it better to 162 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,639 acquire is it better to retain, especially if you're. 163 00:07:17,519 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 3: BUYU do thing. 164 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,279 Speaker 4: And don't forget about Rodger Lyons's older brother who's bringing. 165 00:07:22,319 --> 00:07:24,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's one of the nine. He's one of 166 00:07:24,319 --> 00:07:25,279 the nine guys. Right. 167 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,759 Speaker 2: Like, what I'm saying is those two that I mentioned 168 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,439 were just got kind of PWO transferal guys that came 169 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:31,240 from other schools. 170 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, look, I think it's a great question, Ben, 171 00:07:34,439 --> 00:07:36,680 and I think you know, it's different strokes for different 172 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,560 folks in many ways, because you know, look, Body Tataki 173 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,839 is really good retaining talent, and I think that is 174 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,360 honestly one of the most important components to being successful 175 00:07:47,439 --> 00:07:50,639 long term in this sport right now, because you just 176 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,920 cannot be turning over rosters every single year. 177 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:53,079 Speaker 1: No. 178 00:07:53,199 --> 00:07:55,079 Speaker 4: I know Texas Tech has done that to a degree here, 179 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,879 but at the same time, like they they brought in 180 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,480 guys that were one year guys that they expected to 181 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,319 kind of be out the door and be first round picks, 182 00:08:02,319 --> 00:08:04,639 which is what we're about to see. I think. You know, 183 00:08:04,959 --> 00:08:07,959 Lance light bulded Kansas Malma Mater. You know, before this 184 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,920 past year he had lost the fewest amount of players 185 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,680 in the portal collectively. So I think that's how you build. 186 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,240 And you want to you know, develop guys. You want 187 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,160 to have them in your system and develop multiple years. 188 00:08:19,199 --> 00:08:21,120 You want them to play together, you know. I think 189 00:08:21,639 --> 00:08:23,639 that is in many ways what the Big twelve is 190 00:08:23,759 --> 00:08:25,680 is it development of league And there are a lot 191 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,759 of developmental programs. The problem is it's hard for a 192 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,160 lot of these programs to maintain and retain these guys. 193 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,120 You know, in some ways, I like get it to 194 00:08:33,159 --> 00:08:35,759 the NFL. You know, when guys hit free agency, for 195 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,919 the most part, it's because their teams didn't want to 196 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,919 retain them, you know, they didn't see the value in 197 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,240 that for the for the most part, NFL teams are 198 00:08:42,279 --> 00:08:44,759 going to retain the most important guys because they know 199 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,759 more than more than anybody else about those guys. And 200 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,399 I'm talking about you know, in the locker room, in 201 00:08:49,399 --> 00:08:51,799 the weight room, off the field, and on the field. 202 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,320 I think the same is true you know in college 203 00:08:54,399 --> 00:08:56,039 right now is you want to retain your own guys, 204 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,039 and it might cost money to do it, if you 205 00:08:58,159 --> 00:08:59,519 have the funds to will to retain it and you 206 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,799 have the right cultra built internally, I think that's ideal. 207 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,679 With BYU last year, I mean, look, we know what 208 00:09:05,759 --> 00:09:07,600 they were up against. They had a true freshman quarterback. 209 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,320 I'm much to make excuses, but like, you know, another 210 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,320 year for Bear and he should be a much better player. 211 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,039 I mean, he wasn't even we're about to hit spring practice. 212 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,759 He wasn't even in provo for spring practice last year. 213 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,720 So I think, like the success they had, especially on offense, 214 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,440 was so much a product of the system. It was 215 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,440 l J. Martin, it was an offensive line, it was 216 00:09:26,519 --> 00:09:29,039 the right receivers right like it was. It was this 217 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,279 perfect storm that allowed him to be successful. But I 218 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,639 think Texas Tech showed the limitations that a true freshman 219 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,519 can have once things go off script, and so I 220 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,039 expect him to be dramatically better. So going back to 221 00:09:40,039 --> 00:09:42,480 your point about find better players, I mean, I think, 222 00:09:42,639 --> 00:09:45,679 you know, being better and more consistent at quarterback, especially 223 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,559 when you get to a game like Texas Tech, I 224 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,000 think will make a huge difference because it felt like 225 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,879 at times, especially in the Big Twelve Championship game, like 226 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,120 Bear was just overmatched and just did not know what 227 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,039 to do when his first read wasn't there what you 228 00:09:57,159 --> 00:09:59,480 expect from a young quarterback. I think again, you get 229 00:09:59,519 --> 00:10:02,360 now he's got full spring. Obviously they've got, you know, 230 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,720 the situation at wide receiver hanging over their heads in 231 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,440 terms of not having one of their top not having 232 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,440 one of their top targets. But I think despite that 233 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,159 just being another year with an Aaron Rodgers system, having LJ. 234 00:10:12,279 --> 00:10:15,159 Martin back, you're having more continuity with some of these receivers. 235 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,120 I think that goes a long way. So I do 236 00:10:17,279 --> 00:10:19,960 think they should be considerably better at the quarterback position. 237 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,799 And that's not a knock on on Bears, just the 238 00:10:22,879 --> 00:10:23,919 reality of the situation. 239 00:10:24,639 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 240 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Big the Big twelve, I feel like is 241 00:10:27,639 --> 00:10:29,840 in a good spot, right. I think they're in a 242 00:10:29,879 --> 00:10:34,720 good spot collectively across all these teams. They didn't show well, 243 00:10:34,799 --> 00:10:37,320 maybe as well as we would have liked in Bowl 244 00:10:37,399 --> 00:10:38,399 games and the CFP. 245 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,519 Speaker 3: But what's the state of the Big twelve? Ari? 246 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,159 Speaker 2: You caught up with Brett Yormark. You know, he's always monetizing, 247 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,000 he has always thinking outside the box. 248 00:10:46,039 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 3: He's always trying. 249 00:10:47,039 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: To celebritize and monetize all things, all all portions of 250 00:10:51,039 --> 00:10:51,559 the Big Twelve. 251 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 3: Where do we stand right now? Do you think of 252 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:53,480 the Big Twelve? 253 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean I think overall, I mean there's so 254 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,879 much for momentum. You know, there's there is what's happening 255 00:11:00,919 --> 00:11:02,480 coming up here in a few weeks at the Big 256 00:11:02,519 --> 00:11:05,759 Twelve tournament in Kansas City with the asp glass floor 257 00:11:05,799 --> 00:11:07,000 that I think is going to be really cool. 258 00:11:07,399 --> 00:11:07,519 Speaker 3: You know. 259 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,879 Speaker 4: DJ Khaled was just announced that he's going to be 260 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,879 performing outside of the Big twelve championship, you know, and 261 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,320 then like what's happening in the NBA is a disgrace 262 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,039 and it is front and center for all of the public. 263 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,039 And I think the corresponding year over year television ratings 264 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,279 within college basketball and specifically the Big Twelve our reflection 265 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,399 of you know, people are watching college basketball right now 266 00:11:29,759 --> 00:11:31,919 at this point of the season and in ways they 267 00:11:32,039 --> 00:11:34,720 never had before. And I think you've got at least 268 00:11:34,799 --> 00:11:37,000 ten NBA teams right now that are trying to lose, 269 00:11:37,039 --> 00:11:40,039 that are actively tanking and sinking the bottom. It's it's bad. 270 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,360 I mean, there's some really bad basketball. I think, Like 271 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,480 I'm from Chicago. I watched the Chicago Bulls. I think 272 00:11:45,519 --> 00:11:47,039 there are probably two teams of the Big twelve that 273 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:48,919 could beat the Chicago Bulls right now. And that's that 274 00:11:49,039 --> 00:11:50,960 is I mean, I know, that's like we talked about 275 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,519 that all the time. There's no way like that could 276 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,679 ever happen. But I mean, what the Bulls are putting 277 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,600 on the floor right now is not a passable NBA team, 278 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,799 that is a D is a G League team at best. 279 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,000 So like the play, the level of play right now 280 00:12:03,039 --> 00:12:05,279 in the Big twelve level playing college basketball is far 281 00:12:05,399 --> 00:12:07,360 superior to what we're seeing in the NBA and for 282 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,440 a lot of these games, and I think the ratings 283 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,440 reflect that. So I think like basketball is in a 284 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:11,960 good spot. 285 00:12:12,279 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 2: You know. 286 00:12:12,519 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 4: Overall, overall sports I think are doing well. I mean 287 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,799 there's Utah gymnastics, there's you know, baseball has has some 288 00:12:19,919 --> 00:12:22,519 really good teams by us on the come there. I 289 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,399 mean women's lacrosse is another, you know, sport that brett 290 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,039 Or Mark added last year, added Florida as a as 291 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,799 a member, and that's one of the top programs in 292 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,440 the country. So I think like overall, just the whole, 293 00:12:32,759 --> 00:12:35,279 the whole picture is really good. For the Big Twelve, 294 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:36,879 there's a lot of momentum. And then football, I mean 295 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,120 football is obviously the key, that's really the the litmus 296 00:12:40,159 --> 00:12:42,080 test for you are as a conference. And yeah, you know, 297 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,879 overall Big Twelve did not show out well. But I 298 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,679 think just comparatively, the SEC sent six teams and know 299 00:12:47,759 --> 00:12:49,799 we've talked about this, sent six teams to the dance 300 00:12:50,279 --> 00:12:52,679 and and didn't even end up playing for a championship. 301 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,080 I mean, that's a disgrace. All they all the SEC 302 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:56,559 keeps doing is talking about how great they are. And 303 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,879 all they keep doing is proving how bad they are comparatively, 304 00:12:59,159 --> 00:13:02,120 and now they're canceled series. You know, Arizona State had 305 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,440 a series canceled with Texas Mississippi State had a series 306 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,000 canceled with Texas Tech. Like they only want to play 307 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,759 each other, they and they want to live in this 308 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,639 world where they're the best, and they're not proving it. 309 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,519 So you know, look, I hope that the Big Twelve 310 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,279 gets more than one bud at the Apple next year. 311 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:18,720 You know, we I know, Ben, you and I have 312 00:13:18,799 --> 00:13:20,960 talked a ton about this, but like the fact that 313 00:13:21,159 --> 00:13:24,159 it's one game that's basically the one judgment for the 314 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,200 Big Twelve is a disgrace. And you know, hopefully I 315 00:13:28,279 --> 00:13:30,360 think the BYU and Texas Tech bolting at the front 316 00:13:30,399 --> 00:13:32,240 of the class for the Big Twelve heading into this 317 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,000 next season, you know, there's an opportunity for two bids 318 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,480 for the Big Twelve, but we'll see how it plays 319 00:13:36,519 --> 00:13:39,879 out and then like long term, you know, look, we're 320 00:13:39,919 --> 00:13:42,360 starting to really see this thing play out, and like 321 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,080 with like Sacramento State joins the MAC, like everybody's trying 322 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,120 to position themselves for this this next round. And look, 323 00:13:50,159 --> 00:13:53,320 the Big twelve is very solidified right now, way more 324 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,519 so than the ACC. And this is something like that 325 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,799 is very obvious. You know, last offseason, North Carolina, you know, 326 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:04,799 basically turn in some you know paper to knowledge that 327 00:14:04,879 --> 00:14:07,960 they are in fact looking you know elsewhere at the SEC. 328 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,399 There's an invite with the SEC. Was widely reported, you 329 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,559 know that they were trying to actively talk to the SEC. 330 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,360 Clemson's upset for states, upset, like there is a lot 331 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,279 of upset unhappy people in the ACC. And the more 332 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,240 they change their rules, which they did again this offseason 333 00:14:23,279 --> 00:14:25,120 to play k to the top, you know, a few 334 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,919 percentage points of the conference, the more it alienates the 335 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,320 rest of the conference. The Big Twelve knows. I mean, 336 00:14:30,399 --> 00:14:33,080 this is exactly what happened with the Big Twelve before 337 00:14:33,159 --> 00:14:36,480 BYU arrived, where Texas at Ou. Everybody play caated to 338 00:14:36,559 --> 00:14:38,840 Texas at OU and they got whatever they wanted. It's 339 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,080 the reason they didn't bolt to the PAC twelve years ago. 340 00:14:41,519 --> 00:14:42,799 We'll give you what you want, We'll give you what 341 00:14:42,879 --> 00:14:45,440 you want. Ultimately that is going to fail. It's a 342 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,679 house of cards, and we know that it's already happened. 343 00:14:47,879 --> 00:14:50,480 So the Big Twelve is in a much more, you know, 344 00:14:50,559 --> 00:14:52,720 a much better position because there's a unification of the 345 00:14:52,759 --> 00:14:56,320 conference and it's members that doesn't really exist at the 346 00:14:56,399 --> 00:14:58,320 ACC level right now, and it's the a SEC in 347 00:14:58,360 --> 00:14:59,799 the Big Twelve that are looking up at the SEC 348 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:01,919 and the Big Ten. So ultimately, I think we're looking 349 00:15:01,919 --> 00:15:04,480 at twenty thirty as the year when the ACC officially 350 00:15:04,519 --> 00:15:06,399 breaks apart. I think we'll see some of the big 351 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,279 brands go to the SEC in the Big Ten, and 352 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,000 then you know, the Big Twelve will be in a 353 00:15:10,039 --> 00:15:12,080 good position to pounce on some of those other teams. 354 00:15:12,279 --> 00:15:14,320 Now where does that put them relative to the SEC 355 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,320 in the Big Ten, I don't know. I mean I 356 00:15:16,399 --> 00:15:20,000 think football and how good and consistent this league can 357 00:15:20,039 --> 00:15:22,000 be at football over the next five years will go 358 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,039 a long way in that because football is driving the bus. 359 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,759 And when the Big Twelve goes back for its TV rights, 360 00:15:27,159 --> 00:15:30,080 it can it can show just how good the conference 361 00:15:30,159 --> 00:15:32,799 is from a football perspective at a championship level. You know, 362 00:15:32,879 --> 00:15:34,960 now you're talking about money that could you know, get 363 00:15:35,279 --> 00:15:36,840 close to where the SEC in the Big Ten are. 364 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,200 So look, I think the Big Twelve is as positioned 365 00:15:39,279 --> 00:15:41,080 as good as positioned as any league in the country 366 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,000 right now in better position than the ACC which is 367 00:15:43,279 --> 00:15:45,279 a direct competitor. And you know the a SEC is 368 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:46,919 going to break apart. It's an inevitability. 369 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: Great insight, great knowledge. 370 00:15:49,519 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 2: There love the commentary, Ari Tempkin, Big twelve Radio on 371 00:15:53,399 --> 00:15:54,360 the tune in and app. 372 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,159 Speaker 3: What's the best way to sport you? What you do, 373 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:58,960 how you do it for all of our listeners are. 374 00:16:00,039 --> 00:16:02,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, appreciate you, buddy, Thank you seven to ten am 375 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,960 Central each every weekday morning. It's Big twelve Today on 376 00:16:07,159 --> 00:16:10,039 tune in and Big twelve Studios, and your audience can 377 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:11,919 search Big twelve Studios dot com to find all of 378 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,639 the platforms that the show is available. But appreciate you 379 00:16:14,759 --> 00:16:16,440 very much, Ben, Take care man, couple. 380 00:16:16,679 --> 00:16:18,759 Speaker 3: Actually I got one more thing for you, Ari. Ceiling. 381 00:16:18,919 --> 00:16:20,879 We didn't talk basketball. We didn't talk basketball. 382 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,559 Speaker 2: Ceiling and floor for this Boa basketball team that's been 383 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,679 decimated by season ending injuries and still trying to find 384 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:32,840 themselves defensively, offensively, they're pretty sound, could be maybe slightly better. 385 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,120 But what's the ceiling and floor for this Boa basketball team? 386 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:37,519 Speaker 3: Yeah? 387 00:16:37,559 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 4: I mean I think the ceiling is the getting out 388 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,200 of the first weekend that would be a huge success. 389 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,759 You know, Look, they were before the Richie Saunders injury 390 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,840 three hundred and fifty first out of three hundred and 391 00:16:47,879 --> 00:16:50,799 sixty three basketball teams in bench scoring. So it was 392 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,759 not a secret that this team just did not have 393 00:16:52,919 --> 00:16:55,279 enough scoring. The loss of Dawson Baker. You know, they 394 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,360 just didn't have depth. But they had the big three, 395 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,000 and that big three was gonna be good enough to 396 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,440 carry them if they got hot on offense. And without Saunders, 397 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,799 I mean, forget about it. I know that that Rob 398 00:17:04,839 --> 00:17:07,440 Wright and aj De Bounce are just two NBA talents 399 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,759 and they're incredible, but that's just not gonna be enough, 400 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,039 especially because you know Richie obviously he brought the scoring 401 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,279 and the fact that his scoring didn't really take much 402 00:17:15,319 --> 00:17:17,400 of a back seat this year, like he's still looking 403 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,440 your ear at numbers that were similar. In fact, I 404 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,039 think his numbers are actually up. It's pretty incredible to 405 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,599 think that they add Rob right, they add to BATSA, 406 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,880 and his numbers don't take a back seat to those guys. 407 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,440 So I think that should speak to NBA scouts. But 408 00:17:29,519 --> 00:17:31,160 he was a great leader for this team. I think 409 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,640 Kevin Young obviously mentioned that, and the leadership is going 410 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,839 to be missed. And then the defense. I mean, I 411 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,119 think one of the most underrated part of Richie Saunders's 412 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,240 game the fact that he was averaging one point eight 413 00:17:40,279 --> 00:17:42,559 steals per game. And this is not a good defense. 414 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,920 You just hit on it. I think, Well, guy love 415 00:17:45,039 --> 00:17:47,240 Kevin Young. I think he's a great coach, and I 416 00:17:47,279 --> 00:17:49,480 think he's gonna win big at BYU. But I think 417 00:17:49,519 --> 00:17:51,319 this offseason he's got to take a long, hard look 418 00:17:51,319 --> 00:17:53,000 in the mirror and figure out a way to become 419 00:17:53,039 --> 00:17:57,279 more physical and better defensively and more consistently defensively. You 420 00:17:57,319 --> 00:17:58,240 know they haven't. 421 00:17:58,480 --> 00:17:58,799 Speaker 3: They have a. 422 00:17:58,839 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 4: Culture of finesse, and they are really good offense, and 423 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,519 they run great sets, and they've got you know, just 424 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,480 I mean, incredible stuff, but they to be good to 425 00:18:06,559 --> 00:18:08,359 win big, you need to be good defensively. And like 426 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,079 I go back to that Houston BYU game, and it 427 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,039 was I think it was tied late, and it's like 428 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:14,880 there was no doubt who was gonna win because one 429 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,640 team just culturally is physical and one team is culturally 430 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,640 finesse and fair or unfair, the physical team out physical 431 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,960 BYU down the stretch, Capatata. They need a team of 432 00:18:27,039 --> 00:18:30,279 Cavatatas because that that dude is physical. He's you know, 433 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,480 he gets after, he gets some glass. He's good, he's 434 00:18:32,519 --> 00:18:34,759 good at protecting the rim. Promise. He's only one guy. 435 00:18:35,319 --> 00:18:38,400 So again, I think love what Kevin Young does. I 436 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,400 think this offseason he's got to figure out how to 437 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,839 be more physical. He's got to scour the transfer portal 438 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,480 and find you know, more physical, defensive minded guys because 439 00:18:46,519 --> 00:18:49,960 they've got to be more consistent as a program defensively 440 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,000 some to win big. But look, I think with the 441 00:18:52,039 --> 00:18:53,880 loss of Saunders, if they get out of the first weekend, 442 00:18:54,039 --> 00:18:56,359 that'd be a huge success in terms of their floor. 443 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,720 I mean, they're gonna make the tournament. I mean, they 444 00:18:58,759 --> 00:19:00,880 could lose out, which they won't and make the tournament, 445 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,960 I would think based on what they've done so far. 446 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,759 But and they won't obviously lose out because they've got 447 00:19:05,799 --> 00:19:07,720 too much talent at least with those two guys to 448 00:19:07,799 --> 00:19:10,359 lose out. But it's just it's tough to think that 449 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,759 they can win, you know, more than two games. So 450 00:19:13,799 --> 00:19:15,440 I mean, I think their floor is probably a first 451 00:19:15,599 --> 00:19:18,680 round loss, first round upset, and their ceiling is probably 452 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,119 get on the first weekend, winning two games. 453 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,799 Speaker 2: If you're an NBA GM, do you take Darren Peterson 454 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,079 number one overall or ag debonsa and next this year's 455 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:28,759 NBA draft. 456 00:19:30,319 --> 00:19:32,599 Speaker 4: You know what's really interesting is coming into this season 457 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,519 and forgetting about the Peterson all the off the court 458 00:19:36,559 --> 00:19:38,759 stuff and the you know, the the injury stuff, Like 459 00:19:38,839 --> 00:19:40,839 forgetting about that for a moment. Coming into the season, 460 00:19:41,559 --> 00:19:43,880 Peterson was looked at as a guy that was he 461 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,279 could not stop him from getting to the rim. He 462 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,599 was a great facilitator. He was a you know, a 463 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,759 great shooter and a great defensive player. So far, what 464 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,640 he's shown at Kansas is he could be a microwave scorer, 465 00:19:56,799 --> 00:19:58,039 Like this is a dude that can come in and 466 00:19:58,039 --> 00:19:59,680 score a lot of points quickly. He's not getting to 467 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,799 the ram a ton. Most of his shots are from three. 468 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,160 He's not getting to the rim. He's not defending. He 469 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:09,160 has eleven assists. Eleven assists in eleven Big Twelve games. 470 00:20:09,319 --> 00:20:13,000 He's not facilitating. So he's not really doing anything that 471 00:20:13,079 --> 00:20:14,519 he was expected to be doing to be a number 472 00:20:14,519 --> 00:20:18,440 one overall pick. So if I'm an NBA GM, I'm 473 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,920 looking I'm taking a long, hard look at why did 474 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,839 your numbers look like this this year. Why are you 475 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,279 not a facilitator? Why aren't you driving to the bucket more? 476 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,359 Why aren't you defending at a higher rate. These are 477 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,440 all things that you were supposed to be doing, that 478 00:20:29,559 --> 00:20:31,279 you did in high school. These are the things we're 479 00:20:31,319 --> 00:20:33,839 known for. So yeah, I mean, if I'm a GM, 480 00:20:34,319 --> 00:20:36,880 I'm still probably leaning towards Peterson. But I think beyond 481 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,200 the injury stuff, like, there's things on the court that 482 00:20:39,319 --> 00:20:40,799 he was supposed to be able to do that he's not. 483 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,559 And you know, look, meanwhile, the bans is playing thirty 484 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,200 nine minutes. He's carrying the team. I think there's gon 485 00:20:47,279 --> 00:20:49,039 be a hard decision to make for an NBAGM. 486 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 3: There no doubt about it. 487 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 4: Ari. 488 00:20:51,039 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 3: We salute you, We appreciate you. 489 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 2: We invite everyone to follow you on X and listen 490 00:20:54,279 --> 00:20:57,359 to you every single day, every single week over on 491 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,079 Big twelve Radio on the tune and out. 492 00:20:59,079 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 3: Thanks so much, brother, appreciate you, boy. 493 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 4: Take care of a great weekend. 494 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 3: There you go. 495 00:21:02,799 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 2: That's Ari Tempkin and that segment was ronto by Big 496 00:21:05,279 --> 00:21:07,200 Otires in an American fork. 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