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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in everyone. It is Tuesday. What that means.

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What it means a couple things, Rob Vino. First, it

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means it's five dollars Tuesday at wager Talk. That means myself,

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Rob Vino and every other handicapper on the site will

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have something up for five bucks. The other thing it

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means now that it's conference play is all the big

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games go today. That seems to be the new normal

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in college hoop. We neglect Monday and every big team.

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Speaker 2: Plays on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: So if you missed yesterday's show or you're tuning into

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today's show looking for Virginia Louisville, Robin I already broke

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that game down. So to get that breakdown, you can

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go to the wager Talk YouTube channel, which I believe

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they clipped it to make a standalone video, or just

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go to yesterday's show at the beginning and you'll get well,

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you'll get our full breakdown on Virginia Louisville. We did

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that because there's so many big games today, so we

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wanted to, you know, make sure we touched on the

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games you want to hear about. As fun as it

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was talking swack basketball for most of the day, yesterday,

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Robino gets there right at the end with the team

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total in Alabama State, Howard won by about thirty. For me,

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we hit the parlay, so we're coming in with all

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sorts of momentum. But rob I look at this slate

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and there is something that overwhelming pops out to me

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as it pertains to the bigger games, and that is

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the the book makers are very intelligent, and what they

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are gonna make you do seems to be every big

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game they are going to make you pay an astronomical

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tax to bet the home team.

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 1: That is I feel like across the board go back

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to yesterday when we talked about Virginia Louisville. Louisville's up

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to minus four and they might not have a couple

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of their better players, so I think Conwell might play tonight.

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But still, and then the other one that comes to

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mind right off the bat when I saw it open

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is the game I'll be at tonight in Newark, New Jersey,

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Yukon taking on Seaton Hall. Were you a little surprised

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to see that was only five and a half at

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the Rock?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting, Adam, and real quick just to finish

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up the housekeeping on Louisville Virginia. We did talk a

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little bit about the Louisville injuries yesterday, just to update

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guys out there. Mickel Brown still out for Louisville, but

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Ryan Conwell will play. Probably the reason why the line

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held where it did, get into Yukon and Seaton Hall here.

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It's interesting. I didn't even know this myself until I

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read it last night that Yukon hasn't beaten Seaton Hall

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on the road since twenty twenty one, crazy as it

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may seem. And last year Seaton Hall was down seven

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with forty five seconds left in the game, got it

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to overtime, on it in overtime. Danny Hurley made a

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little mention of it. We'll see if Yukon doesn't come

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in with a little extra motivation to do something that

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they haven't done in four seasons heading into five now.

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So yeah, I was a little surprised. I mean, Seaton

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Hall to me has played very well this year. I've

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been on them a couple of times. Obviously it's a

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defensive minded team. However, we've talked quite a bit about

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Bud Clark at the point and extension of the coach

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Sheen Holloway just to be repetitive here real quick for

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those who may be joining us here at full court Press.

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Now that college basketball season really today Adam takes over.

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We have no more football midweek, nothing to bet on

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other day in college basketball and the NBA, so people

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may be tuning in quick. Gen Holloway obviously said that

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his team has taken to his system. They've been great

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all season long, and they're going to be a pain

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in the neck for Yukon tonight. I think the problem

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for Seat and Haul in this game is the Yukon

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depth is overwhelming. I think the problem another problem for

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Seat and Haul in this game is Danny Hurley is

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still not satisfied with his team and their performance, whether

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it be taking care of the basketball, whether it be

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random on the defensive end, etc. Etc. So here's a quote.

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I want to give you this quote real quick here

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from the head coach. I don't know, and you and

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know that this is like the twenty four team where

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we were just a destroyer, just a devastating machine. I

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don't necessarily think they're coming into every game with a

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seek and destroy mentality I don't think this team is

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built like that, but we need these guys to develop

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more of a killer instinct. Danny Hurley always looking for

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something right with that team to push forward, push forward.

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I think that's the next thing here, to get all

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facets of the game cleaned up. They certainly have the personnel.

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I would lean that way tonight. But more than that, Adam,

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to see who's high scoring who's not high scoring. And

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we pay tax on over unders now too. And if

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you want to bet this game under, because Seaton Hall

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is a defensive mind to team, it's an extreme under

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one thirty one and a half. You can get the

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sixty seven to sixty five almost by mistake in this

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game and cash your tickets. So I may look that direction.

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I still haven't decided. If you put me on the

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hot seat to pick a side, I think you kind

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will come in here with a focused mentality. But Seaton

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Hall is going to be right there with them. Good game,

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extremely physical game. I just think Yukon's depth might wear

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Seaton Haul down a little bit here. They've got more

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files to give in a game that could get a

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little physical.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, can we can we talk about the uh you know,

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just the you made a good point, Rob. A lot

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of people are gonna come over. They've been betting football

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exclusively for months. They're going to stroll in like they're

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and you'll you'll see it. You'll you'll see it from

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people selling picks. You'll see it for all over the

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place overnight, going to become a college basketball expert. It

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happens every year. This is my annual Like, hey, I've

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been here since November, first vent session where it's like

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they're gonna come in act like they're an expert, and

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then they're gonna give you a play like a Seaton

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Hall or like in Oklahoma. And I'm not listen, I'm

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not saying that that's not gonna win. But like the

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books are very smart, and what they're doing is they're

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they're putting an insane tax on this game being played

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in Seaton Hall. You made a great point. Seaton Hall

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has won this game the last four years. And I'll

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get to why, you know I think that is in

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a second. But the reality is, like you know, you

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may have your quote unquote sharper people bet a little

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bit more on that sort of hype spot, and then

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you'll have the betting public who's still probably gonna look

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toward Ukon. But it's not necessarily wrong. The thing is

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like the outcome is gonna be the outcome, but like

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Seaton Hall plus five and a half is a bad number, okay,

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on the card where that's gonna be the case today,

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and then you're gonna get someone feeding you Seaton Hall

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plus five and a half, Like it's just like insanely

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sharp side, which is not It just isn't like that.

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Speaker 2: Any anyone that knows and anyone.

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Speaker 1: That does power rankings knows that that is a you'd

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be you'd be paying a massive premium for Seaton Haul

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at home at that at that number.

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Speaker 2: Now, why have they won this game the past four years?

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Speaker 1: Well, they they pretty much have given the rest of

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the country a blueprint on how to beat Yukon. I'm

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surprised more maybe it's maybe because maybe it's because other

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teams are not as equipped to do it, but insane

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ballpet pressure and pressing a lot of the game has

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been a reason that Seaton Hall has had success in

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this matchup year in and year out. Now they could

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still do that here. It's just that to me. To me,

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the problem is you're only you're not even getting three

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full possessions. So you're really asking for Seaton Hall to

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play their game, but then play it at a very

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high level. Now, Dan Hurley as good as a preparation

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coach as you're gonna find, as good as sort of

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like you know, getting his team ready. I've said this

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a million times, Rob, I think he is the best

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coaching staff in the league. I think a lot of

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these guys could be head coaches other places if they

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wanted to be. They choose to stay in the basketball

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capital of the world stores Connecticut, because what they've built

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there is just that worth staying around for. So my

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whole thing is is this, and I guess it's my

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my fear for Seaton Hall in this game. If Yukon

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can handle their pressure, which they certainly have the guards

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to do that, they can Seaton Hall score enough.

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Speaker 2: To keep up with them. That's my concern.

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Speaker 1: I guess I slightly lean toward the over because I

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do think that like this Seaton Hall team, you talk

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about like what a last year's Seaton Hall team win

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two Big East games and Yukon was one of them.

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So maybe there is something to the style in which

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Holloway plays, But man, it just feels like that line

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came out and Dan Hurley probably called a team meeting

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to talk about how disrespectful minus five and a half was.

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Speaker 3: Probably, I'll tell you over the weekend, Adam, when they

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won seventy two to sixty, he was displeased. He said,

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we probably should have won by twenty four, but we

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let off the guests. And to your point about pressure

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style on the guards, again, I said it earlier. It's

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one of the things he's harped on all season long

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ball security, ball security, ball security, and when they want

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to they're a very good ball handling team when they

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get like a days ago, which may be a small

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percentage of the reason why Seaton Hall has continued to

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beat them for four years is a little bit of

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a lack of respect. Their Yukon strolls in okay Seaton Hall,

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you know, and then next thing you know, you're getting beat.

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and the amount of shooters that they have Demrie and

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Ball and the two centers. It just seems to me

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that there's too much depth on this U conteam. Quality

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depth four seat and halt to handle. Probably come out

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with a nice punch, but can you keep it going

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for forty minutes and hang with him five and a half.

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And I'm with you. I kind of lean over here

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because I think Yukon is going to uh score mid

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seventies in this game, and if Seaton Hall has to

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chase so file so to me, it would probably be

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a good look at the under here or excuse me,

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on the over here, like I say it just that's

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what struck me is that the total was that low.

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I would have, you know, been fine with one thirty

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six and a half or something like that, and said,

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the odds makers are on it, but it looks like

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they just want to push it down, so maybe we

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can take advantage.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, Like this Seaton Hall team is more capable

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than their last couple teams have been offensively. I personally

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think Bud Clark needs to play out of his mind

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tonight for Seaton Hall to have a chance in this game.

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But he's kind of done that, like he's he has

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the ability to do that. And I think for me though,

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I think I'd be much more comfortable backing and over

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here knowing that Danny Hurley is not not gonna let

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up like he he he is that guy wants to

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go out and embarrassed Seaton Hall tonight.

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Speaker 2: They're not sneaking up on him this year. I know

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he went there.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he still has a you know, place in

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his heart for the program a little bit, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, being a Jersey guy.

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Speaker 1: But Seaton Hall got that number next to their name yesterday,

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Rob the twenty five, the top twenty five ranking. I

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think you're gonna I think you're gonna see Yukon be

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very motivated.

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Speaker 2: But for me, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't like the way they match up with Seaton

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Hall enough to lay the five and a half. So

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for me, it's the over. Yeah, Steve Duke says, it's

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a big game. Yeah, it's the biggest game of the

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season for Seaton Hall. And and a good point to

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make before we move on to our other feature game

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that we're going to talk about, is Seaton Hall, like

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the Big East, is not set up this year for

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you to have unlimited chances like there are not many

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what I would consider big time signature wins in the

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Big East Conference this year. It's a down year for

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the league, so this is just a massive game for

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Seaton Hall to get that that resume type win. All right, Rob,

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I want to stay Tuesday. Its almost seems that we're

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almost gonna always do a co favorite. We even had

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really really co feature. I'm sorry we even had a

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try feature because we used Virginia Louisville yesterday. So I

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want to move into the other what I consider massive

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of the massive games, the biggest one of the night,

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and that's in Lawrence, Kansas, where the Iowa State Cyclones

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are going to take on the Kansas Jayhawks.

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Speaker 2: And this is this is actually.

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Speaker 1: One Rob where I don't think the lines. I don't

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think they're making you pay some sort of crazy tax

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for Kansas at home. The line was somewhat where I

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expected it to be. But that being said, like I

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do think you're relying on a couple of things to

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happen for Kansas to stay in this game. Darren Peterson

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making shots all game long would be the main one

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for me. And if you don't get that, it's hard

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to for me. I think Iowa State is head and

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shoulders better than this Kansas team, so I'm leaning toward

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the visitor. But boy, once again, Allen Field House the fog,

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it's going to be rocking.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to play against the Jayhawks at home?

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Speaker 3: Here, I'll tell you what strikes me, Adam, is the

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move in this total. And unless the opener that I'm

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seeing on the screen was wrong to begin with, this

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is an eight and a half point move on a

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total between Iowa State and Kansas. And granted maybe the

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opener was too low, but the money has just hit

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this thing and hit it again, and hit it again

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and hit it again. Now, Kansas has kind of taken

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on a higher scoring persona since Darren Peterson's come back,

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and Melvin Council Junior doesn't have to do everything all

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by himself like he did when Peterson was missing, and

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they've got quality offensive players. Here a couple of things

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where this Kansas team is concerned, and it would worry

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me against the team that's built like Iowa State. Here's

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Bill Self telling you about last game they lost by

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the way, eighty six to seventy five to West Virginia.

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Ross Hodge's team again I'll just go back to November

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Adam when we spoke about Ross Hodge. He came from

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North Texas with the North Texas style, and here he

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is at West Virginia scoring eighty six against Kansas. The

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other day. Bill self says, we were very poor. They

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backed us down, they backed our guards down, they backed

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us down on the post, and we didn't give much

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resistance at all. They took advantage of that, and then

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we didn't obviously score. On the other end, they were tougher.

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We never stopped them the whole night. They still got

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thirty nine in the first half. We never stopped them

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and never made them play poorly. Even el Marco Jackson,

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a guard for KU, had this to say, got to

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focus on getting back to playing how we played basketball

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and being tougher. You don't walk in and play Iowa

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State and not play tough and get away with it.

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Iowa State, I think we mentioned before. Aside from all

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of their offensive capability, it's a really good defensive team.

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On top of that, I'm with you, I think personnel

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wise they're better. I do think Kansas, you know, the

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more I look into this total and the move which

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had me scratching my head this morning, I was like,

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did some thirty point scoreres drop in to one of

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these lineups to force this game up? But Kansas really

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is when you add those things up, offensive players and

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softness on defense, you just get it breeds higher scoring games.

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Iowa State's gonna probably do what they want to do. Again.

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You could take the coach's words and apply that and say, well,

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what he's saying means that they're gonna come out with

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a defensive mentality and a physical mentality right out of

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the shoot. And I wouldn't dispute that. But what I

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would say is that generally those things, teams trying really

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hard to be something there not doesn't last for forty minutes.

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Eventually that wears off. So for me, I think I

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would be looking Iowa State's way. I think the sixteen

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and oh bullseye on their chest will have KU fired

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up in this game, and for that reason I won't

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play it. But because I think Kansas in that crowd,

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in that frenzied crowd, and with that type of motivation,

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could pull this upset off. The Big twelve is always

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in upset lead teams beating each other up. So I'll

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leave it alone. I don't think I can get to

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the total here at one fifty one and a half.

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They priced it out of my range. So for me,

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good game to watch, really good game to see if

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Kansas does respond to what the coach in even though

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Marco Jackson had to say about their lack of toughness.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, as as you were talking, I was watching the

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screen and sort of watched so at MGM and Caesars.

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This just got faked down to like two and a

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half and then instantly bet back up to three and

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a half, which sort of confirms where I think the

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you know, the respected money is going to go in

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this game. Colin in the chat says Kansas is not

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very good. Yeah, I agree with that. I was talking.

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You know, I have a buddy that went to TCU,

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so I've kind of followed that TCU program a lot.

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And you know, we were talking about that Kansas game

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before the Kansas game. Watched some of that game, and

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like you always talk about comp game games, comp type teams,

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the way TCU defense is very similar to Iowa State

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in my opinion. You know, Kansas wins that game, but

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really I mean one oh four to one hundred and

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ot it felt like TCU had them dead to rights.

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They obviously figured out how to score on TCU if

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they were able to get to one hundred points even

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with some extra you know, in the extra five minutes

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in ot But like Iowa State can do that defensively

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and then do like a plthorow of other things that

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TCU can't do right. So it's like, not only do

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you have to to deal with lipsey and the and

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the the really tight harassing defense from the guards, but

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but Iowa States got so many other things they do well,

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to the point where I feel like, if you're back

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in Kansas year, you're just hope. You're hoping for two things.

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And someone in the chat said it, Peterson's probably got

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to play the whole game or be productive for most

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of this game for Kansas to win. I lost the comment,

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but I agree with you whoever said that. And then

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the other thing is they they need they would just

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have to ride the like fog wave to a win

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here where it's just like you know, they hit every

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big shot in the crowd gives them all sorts of momentum.

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Speaker 2: Again, this is what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of these home teams today

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who are playing a what I consider to be a

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far superior team, are really banking on the like, you know,

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the crazy atmosphere is going to get us home angle

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because when if you take that out of it, Iowa

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States just so much better. And I don't think that

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there's really anything that they're not that Kansas can do,

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aside from like insane shot making if they get it

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that Iowa State doesn't have an answer for. So I

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was very close to clicking Iowa State when it got

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to three, that it was there for about two seconds.

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I make the number Iowa State minus three. But I

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think they're just far better than this Kansas team, and

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so I lean toward the Cyclones here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, two quick things to add Adam. The great thing

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about Iowa State that you don't really find in abundance

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around the country in the Power four conferences is they're big.

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Three are returnees, right, I mean Lipsy Mimsilovich, and Joshua

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Jefferson all three. I mean Lipsey got hurt at the

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end of last year which cost them obviously in the tournament,

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played her, I think in in their final game. But

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those three guys all are as cohesive as it gets

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as veteran leaders, and you just don't have that a

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bunch across the country in Power four conferences and the

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last three of Power five. Last thing I'll say real

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quick here is since Darren Peterson has returned, which may

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have me go back and re examine this total. But

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since Darren Peterson's come back, the three games that he's played,

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game totals one fifty six against UCF, one seventy four

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in regulation against TCU, two h four full game because

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of that overtime, but one seventy four, one fifty six

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and then one sixty one against West Virginia. Is just

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crazy that West Virginia West Virginia game can get the

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one sixty one. So perhaps there's a lot of merit

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in this total move. Congratulations to the guys who got

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there at one forty three, one forty four, one forty five.

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You're holding a good ticket. But hopefully your closing line

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value doesn't end up in the garbage cameras sometimes it does.

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We'll see how this goes. And as you mentioned the

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Bride the Lawrence Wave, we do see that type of

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stuff in the Big twelve every single year where teams

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upset teams that are ranked, sit in the standings above them.

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We don't care too much about rankings. Early, you said,

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twenty five applies to seat and all some people care.

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We really don't care too much about that. But it

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would probably have Danny currently throwing an extra piece of

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kindling on the fire. For sure.

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Speaker 1: He definitely cares, Yeah, he absolutely cares, Like, don't tell

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me that Danny. I got to sit behind the Yukon

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bench twice. I sat behind the Yukon bench in Albany

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when they played Saint Mary's in the NCAA tournament, and

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I sat behind the Yukon bench a couple of years

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ago at the Excel Center when they played Marquette.

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Speaker 2: That guy is.

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Speaker 1: An absolute psychopath, an absolute nut job. I got to

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hear him like yell and screen the whole game.

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Speaker 2: He is nuts. There's you can't convince me that he

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that number doesn't matter to him.

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Speaker 1: I know he got off topic there, but he is

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a complete nut job in like the best way possible.

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I wish Joey Cheese was in the chat right now.

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He'd be all over this conbo. But real quick, got

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a promo the five dollars Tuesday. That is that is

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the promo on Tuesdays, but every day Rob and I

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have our three day I think it's like that.

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Speaker 2: There's a cool name for it. It's like the fireball

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something I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I guess I should probably know the promo before I

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get on the fire to double the firepower, Rob, I

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think they're calling it, which is great. Again, should probably

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know the promo before I come on here and promo.

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But the point is, you get Rob and I all

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our college Shot picks for a three day stretch, and

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that is gonna be up all year, so you can

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use it at any time Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, doesn't matter.

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That is up today as well, and easily easily the

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cheapest way to get both of our picks for that

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duration of time. So check that out on both of

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our pages. All right, I'm gonna kill many birds with

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one stone here because we got a donation from Garth.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Garth brings it every day and we very much appreciate him.

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I know he's winning a lot of these bets. He

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comes in and donates like every day, but he almost

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always brings up like a winner, so I think. And

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we talked about Ducine last time they played I think

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we both got this right. Saint Joe's ended up winning

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that game, and it soared over. It absolutely soared over

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because it went to overtime. Ninety seven to ninety was

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the final. My guy Sean Lay, who's always commenting on

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my Twitter, says, I don't talk about Dayton enough. So

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we're gonna get both of those things done right here

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out in the Atlantic ten tonight for Garth Dayton, the

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Flyers are going to hit the road take on a

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Dukine team that's got to be a little bit pissed off,

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right They, you know, kind of lose a tight game

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to St. To Saint Joe's. The game before that was

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a game that you know they they lose at home

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to VCU. But yeah, that's not necessarily a bad loss.

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VCU is still very good, even with the coaching change.

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So I'm gonna let you start this one off because

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the question is totals based. So Garth says thoughts on

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Ducane team total over seventy four and a half.

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Speaker 2: They have gone over in the total every home game.

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Speaker 1: Dayton has only allowed seventy four plus four times this season,

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and he knows this matchup his historically low scoring but

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what do you think, Rob Dukane, team total over seventy

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four and a half. They've certainly looked the part offensively

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at times this year, which I think he's sort of

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noting here and that I haven't been to this building yet,

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but I guess I give a ten home teams a

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little bit of a bump.

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Speaker 2: So talk to me about this one.

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Speaker 3: Ducaine Dayton, Yeah, and I think Garth obviously, I would

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say you read my mind a little bit here, simply

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00:25:10,759 --> 00:25:17,119
because Ducaine is a team that I've been actively looking

478
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,799
at and betting totals wise all season long. And credit

479
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,240
to Drew Joyce here. Adam the head coach who stepped

480
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,359
in last year and played a certain style and then

481
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,599
took the team this year, saw what he had and

482
00:25:30,599 --> 00:25:33,799
we talk on an awful lot about, you know, not

483
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,119
trying to fit square pegs and round holes. He took

484
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,920
the talent that he hadn't decided we're going to go

485
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,680
up tempo here, and they've raised their tempo extensively. They're

486
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,079
now thirty seventh fast and the fastest and adjusted tempo.

487
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,960
And more than that, like I always like to say,

488
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,799
on offense, I want to see how quick your possessions

489
00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:55,000
are they're forty eighth in length of possession, so fast, fast, fast,

490
00:25:56,079 --> 00:25:59,759
Anthony Grant on the other side, Bennett Dayton forever, and

491
00:25:59,799 --> 00:26:01,920
I I will say Adam that I think this kind

492
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:06,839
of is different. Garth mentions that I know these matchups

493
00:26:06,839 --> 00:26:10,920
have been historically low scoring, and I you know, that's

494
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,960
great until the other team changes philosophy and it's a

495
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,440
different coach. Obviously they saw Dukaine last year with Drew Joyce,

496
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,559
but it's a change in philosophy and you don't really

497
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,640
know how to prep forward until you get out on

498
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,240
the floor against it. And I give that edge to

499
00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:31,319
Dukine right out of the shoot here, especially at home,

500
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,599
to hit Dayton with some things. And honestly, it's a

501
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,079
reason why I played Indiana first half the other day

502
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:44,400
because I thought with the new head coach Darren Darien

503
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,480
Derees and the new style that Nebraska hadn't seen it.

504
00:26:48,759 --> 00:26:50,960
And sure enough, first half thirty nine thirty. Then you

505
00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:52,559
get to the locker room, you adjust, and you wind

506
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,599
up winning the game kind of the same way I

507
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,599
feel here. Maybe Anthony Grant can adjust second half, but

508
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,160
I think Dukaine's capable of putting up like a forty

509
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,880
spot in the first half before they've realized, and that

510
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,839
puts you well on your way to over seventy four

511
00:27:06,839 --> 00:27:08,839
and a half. So it's the only way I would

512
00:27:08,839 --> 00:27:12,480
play it. Do cane team total over. I certainly wouldn't

513
00:27:12,519 --> 00:27:15,440
want to be on under in this case. Despite the

514
00:27:15,559 --> 00:27:18,319
historical results, I think you have a totally different different

515
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,839
situation here, and for what it's worth, really quick here

516
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,720
against quicker pace teams. I'll just use the comp game again.

517
00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:31,720
We love to do that in my world Florida State,

518
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,319
which gets up and down the way Dukine does, and

519
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,160
the Florida State game was a ninety seven sixty nine.

520
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,480
But more important than that, it's just an example of

521
00:27:40,599 --> 00:27:45,960
Dayton going with the other team's strength, and that was

522
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,960
on Dayton's home floor. Here they're on the road. I

523
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,920
think Dayton will probably be forced to go with du

524
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,400
cane strength, and if they're ever in catch up mode here, Adam,

525
00:27:54,519 --> 00:27:56,839
that just forces them to play quick, to get points

526
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,240
quickly and you know, try and gain some action. Last

527
00:28:01,279 --> 00:28:03,720
thing I'll say yesterday we talked a little bit. If

528
00:28:03,759 --> 00:28:06,119
we don't hit this two team parlay, we may go

529
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:12,279
to three and we might bring by you in here

530
00:28:12,319 --> 00:28:14,240
to be the third guy. I'll tell you what it

531
00:28:14,279 --> 00:28:18,920
would have to be co third team parlay people, Because Garth,

532
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,079
as you said, has been on the money all season long.

533
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,400
I think he deserves a little shot at the other

534
00:28:24,599 --> 00:28:26,920
end of a three team parlay. But we did win yesterday,

535
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,559
so we don't have to go that route yet, guys.

536
00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:31,000
But stay in the bullpen. Be ready.

537
00:28:31,519 --> 00:28:35,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, we owe for absolutely. I totally agree

538
00:28:35,559 --> 00:28:38,359
with that, and we do. By You hit the leg

539
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,759
the other time, so he definitely has earned another shot there.

540
00:28:41,759 --> 00:28:43,200
But yeah, we hit, we hit the two team or

541
00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:47,759
yesterday we'll stay with a two team or today. I'll

542
00:28:47,799 --> 00:28:50,200
be honest, like I was wrong about Drew Joyce. I

543
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,920
was a Drew Joyce hater when he took.

544
00:28:53,759 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: This job over. I'll just admit it.

545
00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: I didn't think, you know, he took takes over for

546
00:28:57,359 --> 00:29:01,319
Keith Dambrot, who I was a great coach for a.

547
00:29:01,359 --> 00:29:07,559
Speaker 2: Very very long time, and I did not Your boy.

548
00:29:07,799 --> 00:29:10,559
Speaker 1: Was was anti Drew Joyce when he took that job.

549
00:29:10,599 --> 00:29:12,599
And I will just admit right here I was wrong.

550
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: I was wrong.

551
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: He is got this this you know from where they

552
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,200
were when he took it, you know, took the team over.

553
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,519
Of course, well he takes a team over that was

554
00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:25,599
probably on the d client and then suddenly gets to

555
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,200
the NCAA tournament because they win the conference tournament. They

556
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,400
were not going to get there without winning that conference tournament.

557
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,839
But you know, obviously loses some of the players from

558
00:29:33,839 --> 00:29:36,440
that team. He's done a really good job so far,

559
00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:40,279
and you talked about a change just in philosophy, tempo.

560
00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:43,400
All of that thirty seventh nationally in points per game

561
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,880
eighty six point three points per game from this team.

562
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,480
They're shooting forty nine point six percent from the field,

563
00:29:48,519 --> 00:29:51,079
which is very impressive. You know, that's a top thirty

564
00:29:51,119 --> 00:29:54,400
mark nationally. So you know, my number here, Rob came

565
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,720
out really close. I was I was three and a half.

566
00:29:56,839 --> 00:29:59,920
I believe it maybe up to four and a half now,

567
00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:03,319
So you know, possibly a little bit of value I

568
00:30:03,319 --> 00:30:05,400
said I would. I would definitely say as far as

569
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,640
home teams, at least that we've discussed so far, and

570
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,920
a lot of the ones I've seen on the slate today,

571
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,359
this might be one of the more bargain numbers you're

572
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,400
gonna get in like the home team spot.

573
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 2: You know, Dayton.

574
00:30:19,279 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: Really nice win for them over the weekend, beating George Washington,

575
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,839
a team that a lot of people think is the

576
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,559
team to beat in the A ten, or at least

577
00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:30,079
one of them. But you know, I just don't know

578
00:30:30,119 --> 00:30:33,319
how I wasn't super high on this Dayton team in

579
00:30:33,359 --> 00:30:37,039
the non conference. You know, that loss to Liberty, not

580
00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:38,960
that Liberty is a bad team, but that was at

581
00:30:39,039 --> 00:30:40,839
that was a home game for Dayton. That's still a

582
00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:44,160
bad loss. So they've come out of the gate hot

583
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:49,200
in conference play, beat Fordham, beat loyal Loyola Chicago, who's

584
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,839
been playing better, and then the big win over George Washington.

585
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,599
Speaker 2: But I'm still not all the way in on Dayton.

586
00:30:56,319 --> 00:30:59,119
Speaker 1: And so you know, looking at the three wins to

587
00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:02,000
start conference play, you come off the big win over

588
00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:06,039
George Washington. I don't hate Dukine on the you know,

589
00:31:06,119 --> 00:31:08,640
in this spot plus the four and a half, not

590
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,640
gonna no real opinion for me on the total, but

591
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,599
I wouldn't argue with you guys. So for me just

592
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,680
to give a little bit of a side opinion here

593
00:31:17,839 --> 00:31:20,680
now that it's moved to four and a half, and

594
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,319
if it gets I don't think it's gonna get higher

595
00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:24,519
than that. I'm looking at some of the Sharper books.

596
00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:27,279
I think it's probably gonna top out at four and

597
00:31:27,319 --> 00:31:29,599
a half. But like there's a little value there with

598
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,839
Dukine at home coming off of the ot Road loss,

599
00:31:33,079 --> 00:31:35,960
they come back home where they've played better. I'll lean

600
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,039
that way. Dukane plus four and a half would be

601
00:31:38,079 --> 00:31:43,240
my opinion on this one. I just figured out how

602
00:31:43,279 --> 00:31:47,519
to auto star the super chat. So that's that's a

603
00:31:47,839 --> 00:31:50,400
you know, rob a big development for me. Back here

604
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,720
on the back end, there is a someone's like I

605
00:31:53,279 --> 00:31:55,240
did a super chat. First of all, like a week ago,

606
00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:57,319
I didn't even know what a super chat was, and

607
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,920
now I realized I can auto star it.

608
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 2: So they come up.

609
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: So someone's still gonna have to explain to me what

610
00:32:04,039 --> 00:32:06,839
a superchat is. What I believe it is is like

611
00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:09,839
whoever like subscribe to the channel, or like maybe they

612
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,720
subscribe to the wager talk YouTube channels, So what a

613
00:32:13,759 --> 00:32:16,640
great promo to subscribe to the wager talk YouTube channel.

614
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,799
And again maybe that's not it. But I figured out

615
00:32:21,799 --> 00:32:24,480
how to auto star the super chat. And my guy Truman,

616
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,559
who I got to meet and we went to the

617
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,440
North Texas game last Weekend has come through with a

618
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,440
starred super chat and he says, Trick, are you trying

619
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,680
to be subliminal by wearing your Grand Canyon gear? Grand

620
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,160
Canyons getting plus seven and a half at New Mexico

621
00:32:40,839 --> 00:32:43,559
feels like this one will be much closer than that.

622
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: Truman. Yeah, I always kind of am a little bit.

623
00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: I did throw the Grand Canyon sweatshirt on that I

624
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,319
got when I was in Phoenix last year. Actually did

625
00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:54,359
both of these schools on the same trip. I did

626
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,519
them a day apart. I was in Albuquerque on Friday night.

627
00:32:58,759 --> 00:33:02,000
For what a place. What a place. The pit is

628
00:33:02,079 --> 00:33:08,079
rob They deserve all the marks for home Court. But Truman,

629
00:33:08,079 --> 00:33:11,039
I'm with you. I this number is a little bit

630
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:15,200
I think I think we're getting a little bit inflated.

631
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:18,279
Speaker 2: On New Mexico at this point.

632
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: It opened eight. I haven't bet this yet. I really wanted,

633
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,880
I really kind of want that eight. There's a couple more,

634
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,160
a couple of the public books if you will to

635
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,680
be more square shops or at eight and a half

636
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,200
on this so I'm kind of like hoping it goes

637
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,279
to eight or eight and a half.

638
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: If it does, I will likely lock this in for clients.

639
00:33:36,599 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be my parlay leg but

640
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,119
I'm gonna like reserve the right to like decide that

641
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,480
at the end of the show. But Rob, I kind

642
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,039
of think that this is a little bit inflated. I

643
00:33:47,079 --> 00:33:49,799
love what Eric Ollen is doing at New Mexico, but

644
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,039
this is not Richard Patino. This is not last year's

645
00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:56,519
New Mexico team. And Grand Canyon I wasn't like overly

646
00:33:56,599 --> 00:33:59,000
high on coming into the season, but I think they're

647
00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:02,920
starting to play better, and to me, like eight is

648
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,400
a lot and what I kind of think is a

649
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,839
competitive game. So, uh, Grand Cany, New Mexico a little

650
00:34:07,839 --> 00:34:09,360
Mountain West for you. What do you what are you

651
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:09,920
see in here?

652
00:34:11,079 --> 00:34:15,039
Speaker 3: Yeah? What I see, Adam is maybe a pushback on

653
00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:18,639
this total. Uh, it's been bed up, and it's been

654
00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:23,480
bed up significantly at this point. Maybe a little bit

655
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:29,280
too much m a little bit too much support for

656
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:32,639
the New Mexico offense at home here. I would figure,

657
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:35,199
you know, anytime New Mexico is in the pit, and

658
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,440
this is just historical, this isn't just this year. Anytime

659
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:43,760
they're in the pit, the initial thought is they'll score. Here,

660
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,639
it's going from one thirty nine and a half all

661
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:47,239
the way to one forty four and a half. And

662
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,119
the only reason why I bring that up as being

663
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,079
possibly too high is these two teams. The best asset

664
00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:55,320
for both of them is their defenses. Grand Canyon is

665
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,719
not a terrific shooting team, especially from the perimeter. Like

666
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:03,119
you can you can contained them from the outside. This year.

667
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,960
You got to deal with them a little bit inside

668
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,719
the arc and maybe mid range and maybe getting some

669
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,440
cheap buckets. But Bryce Drew is not playing an overly

670
00:35:13,559 --> 00:35:16,880
quick pace, maybe somewhere right in the middle moderate pace.

671
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,199
New Mexico a phenomenal defensive team so far this season,

672
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,559
twenty seventh in defensive adjusted raiding and by the way,

673
00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:28,880
Gray Kenya twenty ninth, So both doing the job here.

674
00:35:29,039 --> 00:35:32,280
But New Mexico since they've hit conference season, here's the

675
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,599
point I want to make. Since they've hit conference season

676
00:35:34,639 --> 00:35:38,639
a mountain where San Jose State scored sixty five, Boise

677
00:35:38,679 --> 00:35:44,440
State scored sixty two, Wyoming fifty eight. Colorado State did

678
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:49,000
the best seventy. And that's a phenomenal shooting team. Colorado

679
00:35:49,039 --> 00:35:51,159
State one of the best in the nation as far

680
00:35:51,199 --> 00:35:55,519
as effective field goal percentage, true shooting, percentage anywhere on

681
00:35:55,559 --> 00:35:58,440
the floor, two point three point free throw. Colorado State

682
00:35:58,559 --> 00:36:01,679
is all of that they get the seventy Air Force

683
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,079
gets forty nine. I'm just not sure Grand Canyon is

684
00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:07,639
gonna put up a bunch. I don't know that New

685
00:36:07,679 --> 00:36:10,039
Mexico will put up the numbers that they've put up

686
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:13,639
so far. Again, I'll use somewhat of a comp game here,

687
00:36:14,679 --> 00:36:17,480
and I'll use the Boise State game, which for New

688
00:36:17,519 --> 00:36:20,920
Mexico was played away from home. But to me, Boise

689
00:36:21,079 --> 00:36:26,119
State moderate pace, pretty good defense, Grand Canyon moderate pace,

690
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,239
really good defense. That Boise State game against New Mexico

691
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,239
only got to one fifteen. It was an entire rock

692
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,639
fight for forty minutes. I can see it happen. I

693
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,239
just think this number is gone the wrong direction where

694
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:42,159
total is concerned. So for me, I probably will get

695
00:36:42,199 --> 00:36:44,599
there too with under one forty four and a half

696
00:36:44,639 --> 00:36:48,800
in this game, because I don't see each side getting

697
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,119
seventy two here. You know you need seventy three seventy two.

698
00:36:52,119 --> 00:36:54,960
In fact, the way the game is lined, let's just

699
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,960
do the math in our heads real quick. The way

700
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,559
this game is lined, you're looking at seventy six to

701
00:36:59,599 --> 00:37:02,679
sixty nine to win. I'm not so sure it gets

702
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,519
that high. So Under doesn't come out of my mouth

703
00:37:05,519 --> 00:37:07,599
an awful lot Adams. So when I'm looking at Under,

704
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,280
it's probably it probably looks really good to me, So

705
00:37:10,639 --> 00:37:12,039
I would look that way in that game.

706
00:37:14,519 --> 00:37:18,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean listen, like New Mexico, the pit you're

707
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:19,599
you're always gonna get.

708
00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:22,079
Speaker 2: I'm always gonna give full marks for the pit. I

709
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:24,320
I got to go to the Boise State game last year.

710
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 1: First of all New Mexico in terms of like rolling

711
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,199
out the red carpet for Trig, they were as as

712
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,239
good as it gets. I mean, they let me mess

713
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,199
around in the tunnel like they just they they they

714
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,719
really like rolled out the red car and their fans

715
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,960
are incredible. That the New Mexico fan base as as

716
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,760
good as I've ever encountered any place I've been.

717
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,159
Speaker 2: Awesome people. They had me right on the floor.

718
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,599
Speaker 1: Someone basically like tackled me during the game, like just

719
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,119
out of excitement because they ran Boise.

720
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,119
Speaker 2: Out of the building in that game.

721
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 1: I love the whole vibe of the pit and I

722
00:37:57,159 --> 00:37:59,920
really Eric Ollen, of course comes from some UC Sandy.

723
00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 2: I think he's almost ahead of schedule.

724
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,639
Speaker 1: I thought that this would be more of a rebuilding

725
00:38:04,679 --> 00:38:07,079
year for him, because if you look at those early

726
00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:09,519
UC San Diego teams, I mean, you know, it took

727
00:38:09,559 --> 00:38:12,239
a while for him to get that that very unique

728
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,639
style in place. And I figured, okay, now you're, yeah,

729
00:38:15,639 --> 00:38:18,280
you're bringing Albery and you're you know, you have some

730
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,679
guys coming with you. But like doing it at a

731
00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:23,599
higher level in a bigger conference might be a little

732
00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:26,119
bit of a rebuild. And they've come out and start

733
00:38:26,159 --> 00:38:29,559
I think four and one in league play. Some of

734
00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:32,519
that maybe they've caught the easier part of their schedule

735
00:38:32,679 --> 00:38:34,519
so far. So I think you have to look at

736
00:38:34,519 --> 00:38:36,960
the four and one start for New Mexico New Mexico

737
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,920
and say, okay, they did catch some of the bottom

738
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,400
half of the league, you know, Grand King And though

739
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,760
the reason I like them plus eight here Rob is

740
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,639
I just don't think we've even seen like this was

741
00:38:48,679 --> 00:38:51,400
never going to be last year's team, no Tying Grant Foster,

742
00:38:51,559 --> 00:38:54,039
no Duke Brennan. It was always going to be a

743
00:38:54,119 --> 00:38:57,079
little bit of a different team for Bryce Drew. But

744
00:38:57,119 --> 00:39:00,519
Bryce Drew can coach. We know that the ross is

745
00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:03,559
still pretty good just across the board. It's not like

746
00:39:03,599 --> 00:39:07,280
he was showing up. Like I came into the season

747
00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:10,639
thinking Grand Canyon would actually surprise folks in this league,

748
00:39:10,639 --> 00:39:12,800
thinking they would be one of the better teams in

749
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,800
the conference. And in the reality, I think is just

750
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,039
it's taken a little bit of time for him to

751
00:39:17,079 --> 00:39:19,239
sort of like get this team playing the way he

752
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,039
wants this team to play. The big one for me

753
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,360
is Dusty Stromer like really hasn't been nearly as good

754
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,559
as I thought he was going to be. He comes

755
00:39:28,559 --> 00:39:31,880
over from Gonzaga, wasn't didn't get a ton of playing

756
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,679
time for Gonzaga, But I thought that was a really

757
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,000
good get for them. I thought he might be the

758
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,599
best player on the team or one of the biggest contributors,

759
00:39:38,679 --> 00:39:42,159
and he really just hasn't been yet. But twelve points

760
00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:45,000
last time out against San Jose State. That's very encouraging.

761
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,800
You know, they just have a lot of pieces, I

762
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,480
like to the point where you know, these two this

763
00:39:51,519 --> 00:39:54,480
would probably be the easiest road trip for one of

764
00:39:54,519 --> 00:39:57,440
the easier road trips in conference for Grand Canyon. Think

765
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,679
it took me about six hours to get from Phoenix

766
00:39:59,679 --> 00:40:02,760
to albat So maybe you do get some Grand Canyon

767
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,920
bands that want to go check out the pit. The

768
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,159
point is, even though the New Mexico team I give

769
00:40:08,159 --> 00:40:11,960
them the full marks at home, it's still not Boise State.

770
00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:14,599
It's still not Utah State. It's still not like San

771
00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:18,679
Diego State. So part of me thinks rob that maybe

772
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,360
they take Grand Canyon just to tad for granted here

773
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,280
and the Lopes are in this game start to finish,

774
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,159
so I like.

775
00:40:25,199 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 2: The points here. It very well may be my parlay leg.

776
00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 1: If I get that extra point point, you know, the

777
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,559
point I want on the number, I may fire it

778
00:40:33,599 --> 00:40:35,679
out for clients again.

779
00:40:35,679 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be stubborn here at seven and a half.

780
00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:41,639
Speaker 1: Most places i'd love eight and a half, like where

781
00:40:41,679 --> 00:40:43,400
you know, I wanted a full I think I made

782
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,119
the number six, so I really wanted that full two

783
00:40:46,159 --> 00:40:48,280
point edge to make it a client play.

784
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,559
Speaker 2: But if not, we'll probably use it for the parlay.

785
00:40:51,039 --> 00:40:55,039
Speaker 1: I think the the Lopes are gonna be competitive at

786
00:40:55,079 --> 00:40:57,199
the pit tonight, who knows, maybe even pull up the

787
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:03,559
out maybe even pull off the outright upset win. All right,

788
00:41:03,639 --> 00:41:07,000
let's get back to the chat. Truman says he locked

789
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,360
it in plus eight, bought the half point. Yeah, we'll

790
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,239
uh well, we'll we'll I think you're gonna have a

791
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,000
winner there. Like I said, it'll be it'll be hard

792
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,039
for me to go the rest of the day and

793
00:41:16,119 --> 00:41:19,480
stay off of that game, because you know I'd have

794
00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:22,480
to have serious discipline to do that. We'll see, all right,

795
00:41:22,519 --> 00:41:26,079
Shane says, I actually clicked on the wrong comment, but

796
00:41:26,159 --> 00:41:27,760
you know what we're gonna We're gonna let it. We're

797
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,039
gonna play it where it lies. Rob, I clicked on

798
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:33,199
the wrong comment. But who cares well? He Shane is

799
00:41:33,519 --> 00:41:35,840
talking to buy you in the chat. He says, why

800
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,400
do you think Minnesota wins tonight?

801
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:38,159
Speaker 2: Now?

802
00:41:38,199 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: By you is gonna give his opinion in the chat,

803
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,760
but we'll we'll talk about this game because I think

804
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:46,280
it's this very intriguing game. I think Wisconsin, uh deserves

805
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,159
a little spot on the show today, Rob, after that

806
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,559
massive performance over the weekend knocking off Michigan.

807
00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:55,159
Speaker 2: Didn't think it was possible, but they got it done.

808
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,519
Speaker 1: Do you think this is like the flat turnaround spot

809
00:41:58,559 --> 00:42:02,000
for the Badgers here having to go play Minnesota the

810
00:42:02,039 --> 00:42:04,719
barn in a you know, kind of coming off the

811
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,599
Michigan win, and now you get Nico Medved who's probably

812
00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:11,400
as good as preparing for a team as anyone, Wisconsin, Minnesota,

813
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:11,880
what do you think?

814
00:42:13,039 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the ultimate right, the ultimate flat spot. However,

815
00:42:18,199 --> 00:42:22,679
the other side of that is that was a turning

816
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,679
point for Wisconsin. You know watching that game now again,

817
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,320
I watched it because I had a vested interest in

818
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,920
the Michigan team total that day over ninety three and

819
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,239
a half, they got to eighty eight. The second half

820
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,679
started out like crap. I mean, Wisconsin can't shoot any

821
00:42:41,679 --> 00:42:44,239
better than they shot to start that second half. Michigan

822
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,599
can't shoot any better than they shot to start that

823
00:42:46,679 --> 00:42:50,480
second half. Points were flying all over the place, and

824
00:42:50,599 --> 00:42:54,679
when push came to shove, Wisconsin d'ed up Michigan. I mean,

825
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,079
some of the Michigan stuff was wide open. I have

826
00:42:57,199 --> 00:43:00,000
to say that, and maybe Wisconsin a little bit fortunate

827
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:05,320
it that Michigan missed a few great ball movement open threes.

828
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:10,320
Client you know, I remember the commentary during that game

829
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,840
was the basketball guards are supposed to let that one

830
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,360
go in because the ball movement was so great, But

831
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,440
it didn't. And Wisconsin continue to make theirs. Hey, Greg guard,

832
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,840
they have a style now. I think when you watch

833
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,800
them play Adam it's it's a good basketball team. The

834
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,039
fact that they struggled early stems from the defensive end.

835
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:37,239
Nico Medved, we see I go in spurts, right, I think, well,

836
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,280
he's turning a corner with this team, and he probably is.

837
00:43:41,159 --> 00:43:43,400
But then the reality hits me that, you know what,

838
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,840
he's just not working with an awful lot up there

839
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:52,679
right now. Fundamentally, you obviously want Wisconsin here. Situationally, you

840
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,880
want Minnesota home team catching a team off a monster win.

841
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,360
It probably scares me off, but I am somewhat interested

842
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,000
in the fact that this total started so low and

843
00:44:06,039 --> 00:44:08,679
as bumped up to one forty six and a half.

844
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,639
You know, Wisconsin really at this point in time, they're

845
00:44:12,679 --> 00:44:15,639
not going to revert back to what they used to be.

846
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,760
And I don't know that Nico Medved can stop them

847
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,880
from being the uptempo three point shooting type team that

848
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,239
they are. What could stop Wisconsin is they miss shots,

849
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,079
which they didn't do the other day. And we know

850
00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:32,840
that that that's cyclical. Right When you shoot as good

851
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,320
as Wisconsin's shot, it's coming back at some point in time.

852
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,920
Does it comeback here tonight? And they miss a lot

853
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,119
of the stuff they made against Michigan. Possibly, do they

854
00:44:42,159 --> 00:44:44,639
show the one hundred percent maximum effort that they gave

855
00:44:44,679 --> 00:44:47,840
on Saturday. Maybe not. I know that this is kind

856
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,480
of a rivalry game, but you know, one and a

857
00:44:51,519 --> 00:44:54,559
half is not enough to tempt me towards Minnesota. One

858
00:44:55,159 --> 00:44:58,000
six and a half. You know, I wouldn't want to

859
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,960
play it any higher than that, but very very slightly

860
00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:00,679
towards over.

861
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I lean toward the over as well.

862
00:45:05,519 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: I just Medved has been a guy I've loved for years,

863
00:45:09,639 --> 00:45:13,079
always bumped his Colorado State teams way up just because

864
00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:16,480
of him his ability to prepare for just about any opponent.

865
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,800
I think the way that plays out here is his

866
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,559
team's able to run some offense and put some points

867
00:45:23,559 --> 00:45:25,880
on the board. But like you, Rob, I you know

868
00:45:26,119 --> 00:45:28,440
my number came in pretty much right on the nose

869
00:45:29,159 --> 00:45:32,320
had Wisconsin minus two and a half, So I guess that,

870
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,840
you know, if this gets bat down any further, maybe

871
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,440
I show a little bit of value on Wisconsin. But again,

872
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:42,519
I do think the turnaround from a win, the magnitude

873
00:45:42,519 --> 00:45:44,559
of the Michigan win and then having to go on

874
00:45:44,599 --> 00:45:49,039
the road is potentially real a little bit like Minnesota.

875
00:45:49,159 --> 00:45:51,239
I don't think the USC loss was a bad loss.

876
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,639
I know they took a bunch of money, but you know, USC,

877
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,199
like I would still think it's probably a better team

878
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,239
than Minnesota if they've got all their parts, And it

879
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,960
was just a kind of a desperate spot for USC.

880
00:46:04,199 --> 00:46:07,719
They win a one point game, so I don't I don't, like,

881
00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:10,719
really fault them for that loss. And you go back

882
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,559
before that, I think Minnesota had five straight wins. They

883
00:46:13,559 --> 00:46:16,440
have a nice win over Indiana, so again, a lot

884
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,320
too like I think so far about Minnesota and about

885
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,840
the job Medvet has done. So yeah, for me, I

886
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,760
can't I can't bet Minnesota at that number. I don't

887
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,840
think I can bet Wisconsin given the spot and the setup.

888
00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:30,639
Speaker 2: So I'm with you.

889
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,039
Speaker 1: I think I got a lean toward I think I

890
00:46:33,079 --> 00:46:35,159
got a lean toward the over. If I were to

891
00:46:35,159 --> 00:46:37,000
play that game, it would have to be the over.

892
00:46:39,119 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 3: All.

893
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,559
Speaker 1: Right, we have a couple, so we've got a couple

894
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,320
of donations, so we're gonna hit those games and then

895
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,480
we'll get Rob's parlay le again, we'll lock in the

896
00:46:47,519 --> 00:46:49,880
parlay so we'll go a little quicker through these last couple.

897
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:54,800
But let's get D. D. Serna In nineteen eighty seven.

898
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,920
I don't know if that's the year you were born.

899
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,800
If it is, we're close to the same age. I'm

900
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,760
eighty six, which means I'll be the Big four. Oh

901
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,960
next year, Rob, I'll be forty in July. People still

902
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,880
think I'm a child. No, I'll be forty in July.

903
00:47:11,639 --> 00:47:13,119
We have we have a We're gonna go to the

904
00:47:13,159 --> 00:47:17,079
SEC for decerna. He says, Alabama Mississippi State looks like

905
00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:19,559
the dog is taking money. Yeah, it does look that way.

906
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,320
I gotta say I kind of disagree a little bit here.

907
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,360
Nate Oates has owned Chris Jans in this matchup since

908
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,760
the two have gotten to the SEC together, and I

909
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,000
gotta be honest, I did not see that result coming

910
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:36,320
for Alabama at all over the weekend. So one where

911
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,960
I do see that the money creeping in. I don't

912
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,400
know if I can necessarily play against it. But I

913
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,639
also don't think I want Mississippi State here here. They

914
00:47:45,639 --> 00:47:47,239
have not been a team I've been super high on

915
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:47,599
this year.

916
00:47:47,639 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 2: Rob.

917
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,039
Speaker 1: What do you think Bama Mississippi State SEC basketball tonight?

918
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,159
Speaker 3: Well, I think everything about this line move Adam is

919
00:47:54,199 --> 00:47:57,679
because right Sel probably doesn't play here. Unlikely to play.

920
00:47:57,679 --> 00:48:00,400
So when you're without the trail Rightzel Junior, it's a

921
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,719
big part of the offense. So you go ahead and

922
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:07,920
you handicap it without him, and I still, even without him,

923
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,760
Alabama still is gonna have a ton of firepower, right.

924
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,440
I Mean it hurts them a little bit, but they're

925
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,119
gonna play the same way. They're gonna play with the firepower.

926
00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:18,119
But if you're wondering why Mississippi State is taking money,

927
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,800
I would say to you that don't. Don't look at

928
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,840
this as if it's a play on Mississippi State because

929
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,800
of the matchup or anything. Fundamentally, look at it as

930
00:48:29,159 --> 00:48:32,800
injury chasers betting a line down because right Cell Junior

931
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,719
is not playing and then handicap it from there.

932
00:48:38,039 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 1: Yeah again, I wish I I wish I had more

933
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,960
to kind of offer on that one.

934
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,039
Speaker 2: I for me, like, I'm just not gonna bet against Alabama.

935
00:48:49,079 --> 00:48:52,159
Speaker 1: I know, I know, right sales injury probably matters, But

936
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:58,000
like a it's a deep team. I trust NATO's Outside

937
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,880
of Hubbard, I don't really like this Mississippi State team

938
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,840
at all. They were a team that came up quite

939
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,679
a few times in non conference play where we had

940
00:49:06,679 --> 00:49:10,360
a discussion about the game and then they just looked awful.

941
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,800
So wow, this is this has gone, This has gone

942
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,400
further than I thought. Is it four and a half?

943
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:17,639
Speaker 2: Now?

944
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 3: It is fun and a half, Adam, And it's funny.

945
00:49:20,639 --> 00:49:22,480
I just kind of laugh when you said that because

946
00:49:22,519 --> 00:49:25,320
outside of Josh Huppard there is no Mississippi State.

947
00:49:26,119 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 2: And yeah, this is.

948
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,159
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, at that point, I don't see. Let's

949
00:49:33,159 --> 00:49:36,199
put it this way. You cannot take Mississippi State at

950
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,920
the current number. That would be a massive mistake in

951
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,280
my opinion. You got an Alabama team. We know Nate

952
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,480
Oates doesn't f around. For lack of a better, you

953
00:49:46,519 --> 00:49:48,920
know way to describe, you know, the way Nate Oates

954
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,400
approaches things. They've lost back to back games to Vandy

955
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,559
and then maybe a little bit of a hangover over

956
00:49:54,599 --> 00:49:58,079
the weekend against what again was a Texas team that

957
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,239
was extremely desperate and very do to play well. Right

958
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,440
like Texas, they had to have a good one at

959
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,199
some point because they had played so poorly that the

960
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:10,599
previous couple games. I would lay that small number with Alabama,

961
00:50:10,679 --> 00:50:14,960
I don't. That's not my style, rob to like lay

962
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,280
points after a side has been slammed.

963
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 2: But like, to me, like four and a half is

964
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,400
way too big of a move. I don't care.

965
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: I don't care who's out for Alabama because that's a

966
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,559
deep team. They have ten plus guys that can play,

967
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:31,880
and they have the far better coach in my opinion,

968
00:50:32,039 --> 00:50:34,079
So it has to be Bama or passed for me

969
00:50:34,199 --> 00:50:34,920
right there.

970
00:50:35,679 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 3: And really quick, just that point, you know, right sale

971
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,079
Junion didn't play in that Texas game and they still

972
00:50:41,119 --> 00:50:43,960
got to eighty eight without him, So that just reinforces

973
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,559
the point we're both trying to make about there's enough

974
00:50:46,599 --> 00:50:49,599
firepower here to continue on to march on without him.

975
00:50:49,639 --> 00:50:51,440
He makes a difference, but I don't know, like it's

976
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,840
a Mississippi State defense that's horrendous. I don't know that

977
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,480
it means as much as this three point move or

978
00:50:57,559 --> 00:50:59,480
this move. You're probably getting a bargain price on the

979
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,800
total as well. Up I'll look at the Alabama team

980
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,440
total here, but we can move on quick.

981
00:51:05,519 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. Our chat is very intelligent.

982
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,519
Speaker 1: I see a couple of people saying, like, you know,

983
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,719
they're they're at Bamba minus seven. I think that's where

984
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,559
I was personally, Bamba minus seven. I have to find

985
00:51:15,559 --> 00:51:17,519
it in my notes, but I was I was Bama

986
00:51:17,559 --> 00:51:19,079
minus six and a half, which is why I didn't

987
00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:21,840
have much interest on the open. But if you're gonna

988
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,119
give me like four or four and a half, like,

989
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,880
I just don't think that they're like such a different

990
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,840
team with one or even with one or two guys out,

991
00:51:31,119 --> 00:51:32,400
it's still a really deep.

992
00:51:32,199 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 2: Team that can play.

993
00:51:33,119 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: So lean lean Bama to me right there, Let's go

994
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,920
to this one and then we'll give you the floor

995
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,920
for your parlay. Garth asked thoughts on Boston College team

996
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,920
total over fifty nine and a half. Well, my thought

997
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,280
on Boston College. I played against them this weekend, but

998
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,519
I thought, I guess I thought Louisville was gonna come

999
00:51:50,519 --> 00:51:52,800
out with like their pants on fire and just like

1000
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,679
hit a trillion threes and run Boston College out of

1001
00:51:55,679 --> 00:51:58,880
the gym. I think that final being only like a

1002
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,320
twelve point win for Louisville is more of a reflection

1003
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,360
of where Louisville is at right now than BC. I've

1004
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,920
actually been sort of pleasantly surprised that BC can function

1005
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,039
a little bit. Rob I didn't think they were going

1006
00:52:11,079 --> 00:52:14,360
to be a very functional team, but they've looked okay,

1007
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,400
they played okay against NC State. I thought they did

1008
00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:20,559
fine against Louisville. That being said, I have no interest

1009
00:52:20,559 --> 00:52:23,360
backing him on the road again here, So talk to Garth.

1010
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,039
Do you have any interest in the team total?

1011
00:52:27,039 --> 00:52:30,519
Speaker 3: It's so low that you're always tempted. I can't do it.

1012
00:52:30,639 --> 00:52:35,920
Clemson's defensive numbers inside acc play even a couple before that,

1013
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,840
They're just not giving up these numbers. They're just not

1014
00:52:39,639 --> 00:52:43,400
every game they play, it's like very low sixties. BC's

1015
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,719
a miserable offense. They play at slow tempo. Clemson's going

1016
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,320
to be able to do what they want to do

1017
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,760
where tempo's concerned, unless they were disinterested Adam, and the

1018
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,920
look ahead for Clemson is Miami of Florida. If you

1019
00:52:57,039 --> 00:53:01,199
think Clemson's pointing towards Miami on and maybe this is

1020
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,119
just a lackluster effort, then I would say go ahead

1021
00:53:04,159 --> 00:53:05,880
and bet over fifty nine and a half. If you

1022
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,679
don't think that Clemson is all that worrying about extra

1023
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,719
game prep for Miami, then they probably lock BC down.

1024
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,639
Fifty nine and a half is a very tough number

1025
00:53:14,639 --> 00:53:18,159
to beit under with, so I wouldn't recommend it, but

1026
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:19,960
it's hard for me to get to the over.

1027
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,559
Speaker 2: I think you could see your points, Garth.

1028
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: It feels like a spot where maybe Clemson isn't just

1029
00:53:27,159 --> 00:53:30,840
like trying to, you know, pull the team to fifty,

1030
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,440
wipe a team off the face of the earth.

1031
00:53:32,519 --> 00:53:34,559
Speaker 2: Like they've had a couple of games.

1032
00:53:34,599 --> 00:53:39,199
Speaker 1: They've had some big time games lately SMU and then

1033
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,960
and then the big effort against Notre Dame. I kind

1034
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:43,840
of buy into that a little bit, Rob, that they

1035
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,280
might look ahead and you know, they may let BC

1036
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,920
hang around a little bit here. They probably still win

1037
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,000
the game fifteen and a half point favorite, but you

1038
00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:55,039
have money to the over, money to BC. If I

1039
00:53:55,119 --> 00:53:57,400
was to trust one of those moves more than the other,

1040
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:01,239
I think I trust the total move because again, Boston College,

1041
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,599
I feel like, can fall apart, and it's another road game.

1042
00:54:04,639 --> 00:54:07,880
They just had to play at Louisville and really gave

1043
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,079
a big effort in that game. In the Louisville game,

1044
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,599
that was a close game for a long period of time,

1045
00:54:12,639 --> 00:54:15,480
Louisville kind of pulled away at the end. So I

1046
00:54:15,519 --> 00:54:17,320
think I leaned toward the over. That's the way I

1047
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,000
would look, all right, Rob Veno, I'm going to you,

1048
00:54:20,159 --> 00:54:22,880
I am going to use Grand Canyon for the parlay leg.

1049
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 2: I'll take Grand Canyon at whatever the number is, the

1050
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,079
floor is yours. Who are you looking at for the parlor.

1051
00:54:28,679 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go first game on the board here, Adam,

1052
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,679
I'm gonna play the Villanova team total over eighty and

1053
00:54:33,679 --> 00:54:38,199
a half. Fundamental reasoning behind that Providence cannot defend the three.

1054
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,559
Villanova is an excellent three point shooting team. Really quick,

1055
00:54:42,599 --> 00:54:46,599
I had this circle ready to go for my leg

1056
00:54:46,599 --> 00:54:50,599
of the parlay here quotes from Kim English, and I

1057
00:54:50,679 --> 00:54:53,039
know again. I'll just revert back to the beginning of

1058
00:54:53,039 --> 00:54:56,039
the year when you had a little bit of inside

1059
00:54:56,079 --> 00:54:58,280
that said, maybe the guys don't play well together better?

1060
00:54:58,400 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 2: Did you see that?

1061
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,159
Speaker 1: I texted you this morning, Rob. I don't know if

1062
00:55:01,159 --> 00:55:03,119
you read your text yet. I'll gave you like some

1063
00:55:03,639 --> 00:55:06,719
inside on this game, so I'm you you can go ahead.

1064
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, go ahead.

1065
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,639
Speaker 3: I'll go back and look. But it is it's not

1066
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,599
good on the Providence defensive end, which is why I'm

1067
00:55:14,639 --> 00:55:17,559
choosing Villanova team total over here, Kim English, we're not

1068
00:55:17,599 --> 00:55:20,440
doing a good enough job delivering the message to this

1069
00:55:20,599 --> 00:55:23,800
team about what it takes to defend three point shooters.

1070
00:55:24,119 --> 00:55:27,000
It's been a consistent trend this season. We've got to

1071
00:55:27,039 --> 00:55:30,440
do a better job of teaching and preparing and getting

1072
00:55:30,519 --> 00:55:34,360
the message across. We're lacking the integrity to compete in

1073
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,119
this league on a night to night basis. They did

1074
00:55:37,199 --> 00:55:40,719
compete against Yukon right. Yukon came out and maybe Yukon

1075
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,440
disregarded Providence a little bit, but Providence came out and

1076
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,519
took a huge lead. Yukon came back, came back late,

1077
00:55:47,559 --> 00:55:49,519
I think eleven point deficit in the last three minutes,

1078
00:55:49,519 --> 00:55:53,559
pushed it to overtime. But bottom line here, because we

1079
00:55:53,639 --> 00:55:57,159
are pressed for time, the Providence team just has not

1080
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,000
listened to the head coach where defensive defense is concerned,

1081
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:03,159
especially be on the arc. It fits hand in glove

1082
00:56:03,639 --> 00:56:06,920
with what Villanova likes to do. And again I'll throw

1083
00:56:07,039 --> 00:56:10,880
in a comp game which I went to this morning.

1084
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,719
When I went and played this game, Villanova went to Butler,

1085
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,119
which is even a better three point defense than Providence.

1086
00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:21,719
They're not a good defense by any stretch of the imagination,

1087
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,239
but they're a better three point defense. And Villanova walked

1088
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,400
away scoring eighty five points against Butler. So you have

1089
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,159
to sometimes disregard tempo. I know the argument back at

1090
00:56:31,159 --> 00:56:33,320
me would be, but Rob, Villanova doesn't go fast, But

1091
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:37,079
when you can be efficient, then fast really doesn't matter.

1092
00:56:37,159 --> 00:56:40,800
And I just see Villanova doing what's right here, making

1093
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,039
their threes against a Providence team that maybe has tuned

1094
00:56:44,039 --> 00:56:47,199
out to coach Adam. I'm not sure Kim English didn't

1095
00:56:47,199 --> 00:56:49,440
have a long tenure in Missouri either, But we'll see

1096
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,920
how this one goes. I like Villanova over eighty and

1097
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,079
a half. We have to get to eighty one here.

1098
00:56:55,519 --> 00:56:57,239
Like I say they got to eighty five at Butler,

1099
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,320
I think they can get to eighty one at Providence.

1100
00:57:01,559 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1101
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna read the text from my buddy

1102
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,760
that is close to the program, that's kind of fed

1103
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,800
us some Providence info this year. So I asked him

1104
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,639
this morning, is Jamiir Jones in? Of course, Jamir Jones

1105
00:57:13,679 --> 00:57:17,400
did not play last game for Providence. It it very

1106
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,599
much mattered he he's you know, if he doesn't play,

1107
00:57:22,079 --> 00:57:24,440
Nova may even have some more easy points in there.

1108
00:57:24,719 --> 00:57:27,559
I think he's probably been playing as good as any

1109
00:57:27,639 --> 00:57:29,639
of the Friars. I think he had you know, six

1110
00:57:29,719 --> 00:57:32,920
or seven games and double figures prior to not playing

1111
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,599
against Xavier. He had a double double a couple of

1112
00:57:35,639 --> 00:57:38,079
games ago. So yeah, him being out. He didn't even

1113
00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:40,199
answer my question. He didn't even answer my question. He

1114
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,079
just responded with this team threw in the towel. I

1115
00:57:43,199 --> 00:57:45,719
was at the Xavier game this weekend. The blown game

1116
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,480
to Yukon is going to result on the spiral, I said,

1117
00:57:49,119 --> 00:57:50,719
I said, is Jones out?

1118
00:57:50,719 --> 00:57:51,519
Speaker 2: I said, he's out?

1119
00:57:51,559 --> 00:57:54,039
Speaker 1: I like Nova still didn't answer my question. He said

1120
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,480
one of the most ill conceived roster constructions.

1121
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 2: Of all time.

1122
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: So that is that this is a guy that's very

1123
00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:02,639
close to Providence, was at the Xavier game over the

1124
00:58:02,639 --> 00:58:05,239
weekend that that really like knows kind of he has

1125
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,239
a good pulse on Providence basketball.

1126
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 2: So that should not make you feel good about Providence.

1127
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what right now, if I can

1128
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,559
confirm Jones is out, I may have to get involved

1129
00:58:15,559 --> 00:58:19,039
with with the Nova side. Rob What was your exact

1130
00:58:19,119 --> 00:58:21,280
bet for the parlay, because we are going to recap

1131
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:21,920
it right now.

1132
00:58:22,519 --> 00:58:27,199
Speaker 3: It's over Phillanova team total over eighty and a half.

1133
00:58:28,719 --> 00:58:31,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean listen, if Jones is out and you're

1134
00:58:31,239 --> 00:58:34,360
missing like that key guy in the front court, they

1135
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,239
may not even need to make all their threes because

1136
00:58:36,239 --> 00:58:39,800
they actually might have some easier buckets than they would

1137
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:43,320
normally if they were playing at you know, a Providence

1138
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,480
team at full strength. So I like the Nova side there.

1139
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,880
Rob is going to go Nova Team total over eight

1140
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,639
and eighty and a half for one leg of the parlay.

1141
00:58:52,639 --> 00:58:55,679
The other leg is going to be Grand Canyon plus

1142
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,239
seven and a half. That's what it is in the

1143
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,000
market right now. If that gets to eight or eight

1144
00:59:00,039 --> 00:59:01,800
and have you may see it on the client card.

1145
00:59:02,119 --> 00:59:04,280
And obviously to get the client card, head on over

1146
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:05,800
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1147
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,079
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1148
00:59:08,119 --> 00:59:09,280
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1149
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you guys for tuning in. Good luck on

1150
00:59:13,239 --> 00:59:13,880
your bets today.

1151
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,559
Speaker 1: Remember it's five dollars Tuesday at wager talk and we'll

1152
00:59:16,559 --> 00:59:18,599
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