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<v Speaker 1>We got some water or nothing out here. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>go now. Donor light came on and I did that

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<v Speaker 1>when they went and they thing running across the yard.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a good sight man or something I would fight

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<v Speaker 1>to man. I don't know what if across the yard.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems to be a big foot leaning against a

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<v Speaker 2>tree in a wooden area.

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<v Speaker 3>I have seen plenty of people with big feet, but

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<v Speaker 3>not big.

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<v Speaker 1>Foot tree mines and rush. He sees about seven and

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<v Speaker 1>seven and a half foot tall sasquatch looking back at him.

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<v Speaker 2>And that kind of looks like a wolf, but not

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<v Speaker 2>like a neighborhood dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Pick these stores for what they are and hopes that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe if it's out there, then't show me. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>says he might have caught the mythical Cuba cabra creature

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<v Speaker 1>terrorizing his chickens. It's like a grunt.

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<v Speaker 4>And a knock. It's like a o.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's kind of a cultural tendency for people to.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to make big Foot a quote unquote monster. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to see v R O Bigfoot Radio. Hey everybody, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the CVR big For Radio. I'm your host, Daniel

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<v Speaker 1>bin Waugh. I'm glad that you could join us again.

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<v Speaker 1>And tonight we have an awesome guest with us. Joining

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<v Speaker 1>us tonight is mister Ryan Tremblay. We're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>right into this very soon, ladies and gentlemen. Something new

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<v Speaker 1>I want to start doing here. There's two offers I

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<v Speaker 1>want to present to you right off the back. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be doing this, uh with a couple of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>other different offers periodically on other episodes. Two offers I

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<v Speaker 1>have right off the top of my head that I

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<v Speaker 1>want to promote your latest books right now. Both of these, gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>you will be able to find and meet them at

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<v Speaker 1>the ecb r O Annual Virginia Bigfoot Conference in June.

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<v Speaker 1>The first individual I want to talk about real briefly,

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<v Speaker 1>it is author Mike Dupler. His latest book is called

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<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot Origins Search for the Cryptid Homeland. Uh. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>he has authored several books along the way. This is

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<v Speaker 1>his latest book right here. I've only touched a small

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<v Speaker 1>part of it, so I'm not going to get into

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<v Speaker 1>explaining really what it dives into. Uh. Basically, the title

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<v Speaker 1>of Salverthan Speaks for Herself, which he actually presents a

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<v Speaker 1>different sign and a different view based off of some

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<v Speaker 1>of the theories that new flood the whole Bigfoot encryptied world. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is one of his latest books. Again, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to meet him and check out his book,

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll be able to get to sign autograph copy

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<v Speaker 1>come June, so feel free to check that out. Another

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<v Speaker 1>book by one of our guest speakers this year, Maxim Curic,

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<v Speaker 1>Mister Maxim Curic. His latest book is called The Lost

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<v Speaker 1>Tribes of Bigfoot. So and the other thing is if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to buy, you know, if you want,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're if you're not patient enough to wait till

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<v Speaker 1>the conference, you can buy these books online. Amazon has

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<v Speaker 1>these books Bigfoot Origin, Search for the Cryptic Homelands by

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Dupler and Lost Tribes of Bigfoot by Maxim Fure.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find these vote on Amazon. Also. Again, if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to meet these individuals, they will be at

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<v Speaker 1>the Angle Virginia Bigfoot Conference in June, right here in Virginia.

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<v Speaker 1>So more information about that, you can go to VA

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<v Speaker 1>bigfootcon dot com. It's happening June twentieth and June twenty first,

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<v Speaker 1>so be there, b square ladies and gentlemen. Let's move on.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, I want to welcome Ryan Tremblake to

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<v Speaker 1>the show tonight. He's our guests, and also we have

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<v Speaker 1>mister David Lester and Melissa Lester joining us, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>glad to have them again. We're gonna have a great discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're going to learn a lot about Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>and his experiences, and then we'll kind of get into

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<v Speaker 1>a few things here and there in between. Ryan, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing? Man? Doing extremely well?

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I'm winding down finally. I just finished off my

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<v Speaker 2>Windy Go book that I've been writing for the past

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<v Speaker 2>year and a half. So oh yeah, that was a

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<v Speaker 2>nice load off my shoulders. But I'm getting ready to

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<v Speaker 2>start my Yeaushi book, the book about the skin Walkers.

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<v Speaker 2>So wow, big big shore. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, so now forgive me. Maybe I should have

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<v Speaker 1>known this. Have you written well? First of all, have

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<v Speaker 1>you written other books before? No?

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<v Speaker 2>These are actually my first books. So I wasn't going

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<v Speaker 2>to write books. But everybody started telling me, oh, you

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<v Speaker 2>know so much about the Wendy Go and the skin Walkers,

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<v Speaker 2>why not put them in a book and spread that information.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, okay, you know what, I think

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<v Speaker 2>I will do that. So that's how it led to

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<v Speaker 2>me write books.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome. So here we are here, I want just promoting

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of the authors that I know. And here

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<v Speaker 1>we got a new offer in the works right now

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<v Speaker 1>working on his content. That's awesome. So you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>got to be sure to make sure when they're completely

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<v Speaker 1>done and published, you'll have to share the tent with

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<v Speaker 1>me so I can promote it. I love promoting people absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a short list of people that are getting

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<v Speaker 2>autographed copies, so I'll add your name to that list.

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<v Speaker 1>Very awesome. Uh yeah, mister, Oh my gosh, I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>a brain fart. Remember his name. Uh, there's a gentleman.

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<v Speaker 1>He believes that he lives up on the East coast,

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<v Speaker 1>northern east coast. Kenneth. Uh, oh, man, I can't believe that. No,

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<v Speaker 1>not that one, Kenny Kenny. Uh. He just put out

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<v Speaker 1>a new book himself. Yeah. He featured so many the

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<v Speaker 1>different Bigfoot researchers in this new book. And uh he

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<v Speaker 1>is Uh he's actually sending me a copy because he

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<v Speaker 1>did he did an article, or not an article, but

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<v Speaker 1>a chapter on me. Uh coy. Yeah, I can't I

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe. I should have wrote this down and I

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<v Speaker 1>just it just popped up in my head. I hate

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<v Speaker 1>when you can't remember names. But he's uh, he's been

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<v Speaker 1>involved with us for quite some time. I was actually

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<v Speaker 1>working on getting them to be a one of my

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<v Speaker 1>speakers here in the near future.

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<v Speaker 4>And uh is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? No, no, no, it's kind of his Facebook name.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of a long name.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's Kenny something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he really adds a long name to it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny something.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh cryptologists, Yes, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny the crypto. Yeah, Kenny the crypto punkologist. Yes he

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<v Speaker 1>is awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he knows some stuff too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So his latest book and uh do you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry again forgive me for not remembering the name

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<v Speaker 1>of it. But are you familiar with his new book?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, that new book familiar? Yes, I believe it

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<v Speaker 1>had something to do with the Tales of the Chronicles

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<v Speaker 1>or something to do with other researchers and those involved

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<v Speaker 1>with all bickfoot and crypto research. And uh so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, who also did something very similar referring to

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<v Speaker 1>other bigfooters and crypto researchers involved. Was I believe his

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<v Speaker 1>name was Tim, Tim Halloman or Hallowan. Uh. He was

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<v Speaker 1>actually a. Yeah, he did a book called the big Foot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bigfoot Influencers or something something along those lines. Uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he did something very similar. So I think it's cool

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<v Speaker 1>that these these authors are doing stuff that they want

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<v Speaker 1>people to get more familiar with those that are involved

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<v Speaker 1>with the research, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that's a great idea because there's so

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<v Speaker 2>many hard workers out there that just don't get enough credit.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I'm gonna tell you, like when Kenny

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<v Speaker 1>got me involved and came at me about when he

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<v Speaker 1>was still working on his book, I felt very honored, Like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I feel like I'm a small fish in

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<v Speaker 1>a big pond. So it was kind of it was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of exciting that he asked came to ask me

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<v Speaker 1>about it. So I felt like, Okay, this is awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, uh, that he considered me as Yeah. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many others he got involved with.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who all the others are, but just

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<v Speaker 1>from the fact that he had asked me, dude, this

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<v Speaker 1>is awesome. Yeah, of course I'll participate because I mean

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<v Speaker 1>this is like my biggest thing is everybody I listen

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<v Speaker 1>to David know, I repeat this all the time, but

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it's spreading awareness and any little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>information about me or my research. You know, if the

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<v Speaker 1>work to get out there, that's great. I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 1>to convince anybody about my beliefs and my conclusions on

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<v Speaker 1>subjects and topics, but you know, I want people to

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<v Speaker 1>know where I stand, regardless if it's accurate or not.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, but do you know if.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know if Dale's going to have any books? Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>coming up, is going to have any there himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Dale Backer? Uh yeah, For those who are following,

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<v Speaker 1>Dale Backer will be presenting Friday, June twentieth, his book

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<v Speaker 1>Tails of a Bear Hunter. Now, he mentioned to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know this for sure, well, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>know for sure, but he sinks he may have a

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<v Speaker 1>second book that will help that he will have out

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<v Speaker 1>by then. But he does plan on having copies of

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<v Speaker 1>his books because he originally when he came at me,

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<v Speaker 1>he did mention that he will have his books. He

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to booth to set up uh and to sell

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<v Speaker 1>his books. So I said yes, absolutely, yeah, so he

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<v Speaker 1>will have his books with him and again possibly a

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<v Speaker 1>second book that he's working on. He hasn't put out

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<v Speaker 2>Cool.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I always love having offered today. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>he can't be. He won't be there Saturday. He said

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<v Speaker 1>he's got to work, so, which I understand, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but and uh, because mean that's too bad, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>a little closer to him. I mean he lives down

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<v Speaker 1>in he's not too far from Brono, but he's he

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<v Speaker 1>lives north of Rono. I have a generali here exactly

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<v Speaker 1>where he lives. I forget the name of the area.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, like I said, it would only be maybe

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<v Speaker 1>maybe an hour ride for him. I'm guessing because I

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<v Speaker 1>mean from where I live down to where we're going Saturday. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's only going to take me an hour to get there.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would leave here no later than ten o'clock

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it goes about an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Two. Oh okay, Well, yeah, you guys are probably close.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the highway is real close to you. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean for me, I would have to ride either go

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<v Speaker 1>out towards Wayer's Cave and jump on the highway that way,

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<v Speaker 1>or go somewhere out towards Waynesboro. And jump on the

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<v Speaker 1>highway that way. Yeah, because like I said, when I

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<v Speaker 1>put in the max has showing about an hour drive

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<v Speaker 1>for me. So yeah, so that's pretty cool. Yeah, talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that. I know we're kind of switching gear if

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<v Speaker 1>here real quick. But since you brought that up, I

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<v Speaker 1>have no like I've had others ask me, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how many people you are expecting to show up here?

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I had no idea, but I know I've been

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<v Speaker 1>sharing it in all the local groups, the Facebook groups

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<v Speaker 1>that that work, like like for example, there's a Lexington

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<v Speaker 1>him to get back. I don't know his schedule of

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<v Speaker 1>what he does. Well, all I know is is fiance

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<v Speaker 1>She said, yeah, he does classes. He takes classes, so

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<v Speaker 1>the schedule might be kind of weird and funky. So

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<v Speaker 5>So, well, Ryan, where you locate to that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in Sierra Visa, Arizona.

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<v Speaker 3>If you have a podcast in the past, I can

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<v Speaker 2>For yep, I sure have, and I've been on things

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, Paranormal Portal, Paranormal Odyssey. I've done so

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<v Speaker 2>many that I can't even remember all the themes of

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<v Speaker 3>Well, so I can't keep a straight either. There's so

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<v Speaker 3>many going on in the back and forth and whatnot. Yep,

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<v Speaker 3>some of the stuff you've been involved with, which it's

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<v Speaker 3>interested to hear more.

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<v Speaker 6>So mm hmmm, absolutely, well, Ryan, Uh, I was wondering

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<v Speaker 6>and what got you involved into all this?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I've been involved in cryptozoology for twenty plus years now.

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<v Speaker 2>watch monster movies with my brothers and my dad. Universal Monsters,

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<v Speaker 2>the Hammer films. Those were all a daily staple for

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<v Speaker 2>our young Ryan's diet. Okay, so we were watching these on

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<v Speaker 2>a daily basis, nightly basis, and then I started getting

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<v Speaker 2>to things like god Sola. So you know, when you

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<v Speaker 2>see monsters like Santa and Guyra the Gardange, was a

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<v Speaker 2>young mind goes ooh, I wonder if these monsters are real. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>my dad, said, Brian. When I was about seven years old,

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<v Speaker 2>he showed me the Patterson Gimlay film. Okay, Now, I

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<v Speaker 2>know there's a lot of debate about that film. People

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<v Speaker 2>say it's real, some people say it's fake. But for me,

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<v Speaker 2>that was like, oh my gosh, it's a Bigfoot and

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<v Speaker 2>I was hooked. From that moment on. I was absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>obsessed with Bigfoot. And since my dad he was a

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<v Speaker 2>Cajun guy, so he started telling me tales about the

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<v Speaker 2>Rugaroo and you know, vampires things like that. So right

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<v Speaker 2>from a young age, I was just obsessed with monsters.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's interesting. Yeah, I think, I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I can speak for most of us. Yeah, you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>god Zilla among other things. It's like even the Wolfman

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<v Speaker 1>movies and stuff like. I grew up with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of that stuff myself. I'm sure, David Wlisson, you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are well familiar with a lot of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's always been intriguing, uh, you know, of

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<v Speaker 1>course what we grew up with from a young age

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<v Speaker 1>versus of what they put out now. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>some of the stuff. I can question some of the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff they put out now, oh I do do.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, when my dad used to tell

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<v Speaker 2>me stories about the rue Guru, you know, I used

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<v Speaker 2>to think at first that they were just camp fire tales,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. So when I used to go out and

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<v Speaker 2>play in the woods, my dad would tell me, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>be careful that the wood boogers don't get you yet,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And at first I thought, oh, he's just

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<v Speaker 2>being whimsical, you know, he's just trying to be a

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<v Speaker 2>dad and scare me. But once I learned what wood

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<v Speaker 2>boogers were, and I'm like, oh my god, my dad

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<v Speaker 2>was really trying to scare me here theres So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I was just I was obsessed, Daniel, you know what monsters,

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<v Speaker 2>anything monsters. I was consuming on a daily basis.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, you mentioned wood boog I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead that where I am, you know, and I

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<v Speaker 2>started looking into things like the indigenous folk because when

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<v Speaker 2>we moved to Arizona, I was hearing from different indigenous

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<v Speaker 2>people how they had their own tales of Bigfoot. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that started pulling me in more and more

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<v Speaker 2>and more.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice quick question. Yeah, I'm just curious to get your

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<v Speaker 1>your take on this. Now you mentioned wood burgers, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>what was your What would be your definition of wood

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<v Speaker 1>boogers Because there's a reason why I'm asking all.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, from how my dad described him. He used to

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<v Speaker 2>tell me that they were kind of like chimp like

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<v Speaker 2>and they had a really nasty attitude that if they

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<v Speaker 2>caught you, they were going to chase you out. So

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of pictured it looking like the Bigfoot in

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<v Speaker 2>the Patterson Gimlain film, you know, really all really broad shoulders.

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<v Speaker 2>So to me, a wood booger was a bigfoot essentially.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, No, that's fair, because I didn't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>were had a different view on the definition of wood booger.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason I'm bringing that up because here in the

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<v Speaker 1>state of Virginia, more or less down and more down

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<v Speaker 1>towards the southwestern parts of Virginia. Uh, the name of

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<v Speaker 1>the area and anyway, I can't believe it. It's beginning

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<v Speaker 1>with it, but not Virginia. Is her name Bigfoot the

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<v Speaker 1>wood Booger. So I didn't know if it was if

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<v Speaker 1>that was heard of or mentioned or or suggested elsewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know it from the big Foot history in Virginia. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the wood Booger was actually the Virginia's Bigfoot, you know, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, yeah, so that's very cool. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>if that was Again, I didn't know if you were

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<v Speaker 1>relating to a big Foot or something entirely different.

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<v Speaker 2>So no, no, I had it was always Bigfoot. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when I when we lived in Massachusett's originally

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<v Speaker 2>I used to go out and play in the woods,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, every day, I just go disappear in the

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<v Speaker 2>woods for a couple of hours. And now I realized

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<v Speaker 2>I heard things back there that might have been a

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<v Speaker 2>wood booger. So I'm just kind of like, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Oh okay, another random question, how long did you

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<v Speaker 1>Street? Okay, what part of my Stachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh, I lived in Southbridge, Massachusetts. I've been to Boston, Worcester,

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<v Speaker 2>Webster Dudley. I lived in Connecticut for a short time,

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<v Speaker 2>so there's always woods around me, you know, So I

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<v Speaker 2>think that was Nature's where the universe is a way

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<v Speaker 2>of saying, hey, Ryan, you belong the woods, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>I live right outside of Wister in Douglas, Massachusetts, East Douglas. Man, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where i'm That's where I'm from.

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<v Speaker 2>We might have been neighbors at some point, Daniel, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy, that's possible. I mean I lived out. The street

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<v Speaker 1>I lived in Douglas was called Southeast Main Street. It

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<v Speaker 1>was it was just a few houses surrounded by woods. Nowadays,

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<v Speaker 1>you go up there, you won't even recognize the area.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all grown up with so much change. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that one. You know. Mommy asked me how old

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<v Speaker 1>are you, Ryan?

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<v Speaker 2>I am forty five, and that's a reminder how old

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting. So thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, I'll be forty five in March. So okay, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, aside from movies and stuff growing up and whatnot

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<v Speaker 3>with your dad. And while he was telling you have

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<v Speaker 3>you had any actual cryptid or paranoma type encounters or

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<v Speaker 3>situations that cemented your thought process?

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<v Speaker 4>Now why you took the direction you're taking the Ford.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing that really pulled me into this heavily was

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<v Speaker 2>a dog man encounter here in Arizona. You know, first

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<v Speaker 2>I did not believe in the dog man. My friend

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<v Speaker 2>Dakota would tell me about these dog man stories all

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<v Speaker 2>the time, and I just kind of laugh at him,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, go come on, dude, an upbright, get out

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<v Speaker 2>of here. But it happened. You know, Fate played its

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<v Speaker 2>role where one day I was house sitting for my

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<v Speaker 2>I went to go do a midnight checkup because I

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<v Speaker 2>did a routine of morning after nude and then midnight

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<v Speaker 2>would be the last one, so you know, I make

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<v Speaker 2>sure everything was locked up. So I went here about

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<v Speaker 2>midnight and as I walking up, I noticed the coyotes

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<v Speaker 2>around here were going nuts. I mean they sounded nervous.

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<v Speaker 2>They were chittering, they were barking, they were crying and whining,

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<v Speaker 2>And at first I didn't really think anything about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was kind of like, yeah, you know, maybe they're hunting

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<v Speaker 2>smelled obnoxious, I mean terrible. My eyes were watering. I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like I could taste the smell. You guys, ever

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<v Speaker 2>taste anything so bad that you feel like you tasted it?

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<v Speaker 2>So as I got there, I'm going, God, did something die,

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<v Speaker 2>Whether they kill something could brief Anyway, I went along

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<v Speaker 2>He couldn't see anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard something moving, okay, and I'm going, oh, great,

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<v Speaker 2>he's got an animal in his backyard, or there's a

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>So I walked into his backyard and I hears something

420
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<v Speaker 2>like scratching at the ground. I hear the rocks going

421
00:20:59.000 --> 00:21:01.880
<v Speaker 2>and I get back there and I'm standing there by myself,

422
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<v Speaker 2>So I go, hey to try to scare anybody off. Okay,

423
00:21:05.920 --> 00:21:09.279
<v Speaker 2>there's nothing at first, so it goes quiet for a minute.

424
00:21:09.440 --> 00:21:12.359
<v Speaker 2>Even the coyotes stopped. I move forward a little bit more.

425
00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:14.880
<v Speaker 2>I hear the sounds again, and I look and I

426
00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:16.759
<v Speaker 2>can see something moving in the shadows. You know how

427
00:21:16.759 --> 00:21:18.960
<v Speaker 2>when you there's somebody hiding in the dark, they seem

428
00:21:19.039 --> 00:21:20.759
<v Speaker 2>darker than the shadows and you can kind of tell

429
00:21:20.799 --> 00:21:24.440
<v Speaker 2>they're there. Oh sure, yeah, that's what I saw. So

430
00:21:24.519 --> 00:21:26.079
<v Speaker 2>I thought, you know, human, I thought this was a

431
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<v Speaker 2>person because it looked like it was on two legs.

432
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<v Speaker 2>So me, I'm only five ten and a half and

433
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<v Speaker 2>I think I was like one hundred and twenty three

434
00:21:31.200 --> 00:21:33.200
<v Speaker 2>pounds at the time, So I puff up like that

435
00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:36.839
<v Speaker 2>little puffer fish, and I'll oh, hey, this time, I

436
00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:40.000
<v Speaker 2>hear this really really deep growl that comes back. And

437
00:21:40.039 --> 00:21:43.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean this growl was like I could feel it

438
00:21:43.599 --> 00:21:45.720
<v Speaker 2>going through my chest, rattling my boats, you know. So

439
00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:48.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm going, oh crap. At first, I think it's a

440
00:21:48.359 --> 00:21:50.720
<v Speaker 2>mountain lion, because we do have mountains in Arizona, right,

441
00:21:51.319 --> 00:21:53.599
<v Speaker 2>And as I go forward to check it out, you know,

442
00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:57.200
<v Speaker 2>the security lights pop on. And when those security lights

443
00:21:57.200 --> 00:21:59.440
<v Speaker 2>went on, it wasn't a mountain lion, a bear, or

444
00:21:59.480 --> 00:22:01.599
<v Speaker 2>a human that I was looking at. There was a

445
00:22:01.680 --> 00:22:04.599
<v Speaker 2>hyena face looking right back at me, and it looked

446
00:22:04.640 --> 00:22:07.759
<v Speaker 2>just like a hyena, except for one problem. This thing

447
00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:10.279
<v Speaker 2>was actually sitting on its knuckles, so it had its

448
00:22:10.359 --> 00:22:12.720
<v Speaker 2>hind legs folded behind it, and it's balancing on the

449
00:22:12.799 --> 00:22:16.480
<v Speaker 2>knuckles of its fingers, and it sees me. I see it,

450
00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:19.559
<v Speaker 2>and We're just staring at each other. Okay, I'm not

451
00:22:19.680 --> 00:22:21.720
<v Speaker 2>moving because I know when there's a predator, the worst

452
00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:23.880
<v Speaker 2>thing you can do is run because you become prey.

453
00:22:24.640 --> 00:22:26.920
<v Speaker 2>So I'm just standing there, going, what the hell is

454
00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:28.759
<v Speaker 2>this thing? You know, why am I looking at a hyena?

455
00:22:28.799 --> 00:22:32.359
<v Speaker 2>My bat friend's backyard. This thing lunges forward and it

456
00:22:32.480 --> 00:22:34.240
<v Speaker 2>runs and stops on a dime. So it did a

457
00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:37.519
<v Speaker 2>bluff charge where it stopped just like that, and it

458
00:22:37.559 --> 00:22:39.559
<v Speaker 2>continues to stare at me. I could see its head

459
00:22:39.720 --> 00:22:42.200
<v Speaker 2>tilting side to side, its ears are going up and down,

460
00:22:42.880 --> 00:22:45.079
<v Speaker 2>and then finally it starts to stand up. So I

461
00:22:45.119 --> 00:22:47.599
<v Speaker 2>hear this loud pump as it reaches up to go

462
00:22:47.640 --> 00:22:50.319
<v Speaker 2>grab a branch, and so we're just staring at each other.

463
00:22:50.400 --> 00:22:53.079
<v Speaker 2>You know, we're not moving. It's not coming at me anymore,

464
00:22:53.599 --> 00:22:55.359
<v Speaker 2>and I'm standing there going, what am I looking at?

465
00:22:55.480 --> 00:22:56.519
<v Speaker 2>What is this thing?

466
00:22:56.599 --> 00:22:56.759
<v Speaker 1>You know?

467
00:22:56.759 --> 00:22:59.480
<v Speaker 2>I have never seen anything like this? What could it be?

468
00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:03.359
<v Speaker 2>So he spent maybe like two three minutes staring at

469
00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:05.960
<v Speaker 2>one another till this thing finally turned around and walked away.

470
00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:08.839
<v Speaker 2>And the minute it was gone down that hill, Daniel,

471
00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:11.720
<v Speaker 2>I had rockets in my butt, bro, you just throw them.

472
00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:14.119
<v Speaker 2>I took up off those stairs and I just slammed

473
00:23:14.119 --> 00:23:16.559
<v Speaker 2>all his doors. I'm locking his doors, bolting his windows.

474
00:23:17.240 --> 00:23:19.160
<v Speaker 2>I called my buddy up and I'm like, hey, you know,

475
00:23:19.880 --> 00:23:23.000
<v Speaker 2>arned me there's a hyena in your backyard. And my

476
00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:25.240
<v Speaker 2>friend thinks I'm crazy. You know, he said, there going

477
00:23:25.240 --> 00:23:26.480
<v Speaker 2>to hyaena in Arizona.

478
00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:26.839
<v Speaker 1>Ryan.

479
00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:29.559
<v Speaker 2>Come on, dude, you worked at the zoo. You know

480
00:23:29.599 --> 00:23:32.880
<v Speaker 2>there's no hyenas in Arizona. Now I'm telling him no,

481
00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:35.880
<v Speaker 2>I just I saw a hyaena in your backyard. Just

482
00:23:35.920 --> 00:23:37.759
<v Speaker 2>thing stood up and stared at me your door. Was

483
00:23:37.759 --> 00:23:40.200
<v Speaker 2>a hyena in your backyard. So the next day he

484
00:23:40.279 --> 00:23:43.519
<v Speaker 2>came home and his wife actually told me, you know,

485
00:23:43.680 --> 00:23:46.079
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't a hyaena that you saw, Ryan, you need

486
00:23:46.119 --> 00:23:48.599
<v Speaker 2>to look into Lend to Godfree's books because a lot

487
00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:51.960
<v Speaker 2>of people described exactly what you saw. So that right there,

488
00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:54.039
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh my god. Once I started reading

489
00:23:54.039 --> 00:23:56.759
<v Speaker 2>her books, I realized, holy crap, this dog man. Thing

490
00:23:56.839 --> 00:23:59.079
<v Speaker 2>is real, and I saw one of these dog men,

491
00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:02.599
<v Speaker 2>so I became obsessed with the whole subjects.

492
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<v Speaker 4>What size would you say? It was about? Approximately? How tall?

493
00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:07.519
<v Speaker 4>From what you could tell?

494
00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:10.200
<v Speaker 2>And wait, maybe when it stood up on two legs,

495
00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:13.599
<v Speaker 2>I'd say maybe six and a half feet maybe because

496
00:24:13.599 --> 00:24:15.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm five ten and a half, so it was about

497
00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:17.720
<v Speaker 2>a foot over me, so about six and a half

498
00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:21.440
<v Speaker 2>feet tall. Yeah. Wow, Wow, it was a tall boy.

499
00:24:21.480 --> 00:24:24.839
<v Speaker 2>But it wasn't muscular. Daniel were already familiar with this,

500
00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:27.279
<v Speaker 2>but a lot of people that see dog men nowadays

501
00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:30.319
<v Speaker 2>describe almost the bodybuilder kind of body frame where they

502
00:24:30.319 --> 00:24:33.720
<v Speaker 2>got the huge muscles, the huge arms. Mine wasn't like that.

503
00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:35.599
<v Speaker 2>The one that I saw I compare more to a

504
00:24:35.640 --> 00:24:36.440
<v Speaker 2>basketball player.

505
00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:37.200
<v Speaker 1>He was very lean.

506
00:24:37.240 --> 00:24:39.880
<v Speaker 2>He had muscle, but it was that lean kind of muscle.

507
00:24:40.759 --> 00:24:45.319
<v Speaker 1>Right, kind of tall, slanky but yet conditioned. Yeah.

508
00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:49.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, he wasn't building bricked out, but

509
00:24:49.559 --> 00:24:51.759
<v Speaker 2>you know he had more muscle than I did. So

510
00:24:51.799 --> 00:24:53.440
<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to try to challenge this thing.

511
00:24:54.359 --> 00:24:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Right for me, to be completely honest with you, I'm

512
00:24:58.559 --> 00:25:02.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm not denying what you what you're sharing, because when

513
00:25:02.319 --> 00:25:03.880
<v Speaker 1>it came to when it comes to the whole dog

514
00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:07.400
<v Speaker 1>man phenomenon. I mean, in my complete honestly, I've always

515
00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:10.880
<v Speaker 1>been a non believer then, but I want to believe it.

516
00:25:10.920 --> 00:25:12.960
<v Speaker 1>I really I want to believe that because you know, like,

517
00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:18.240
<v Speaker 1>but you, I believe you're you know, you're seeing what

518
00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:21.480
<v Speaker 1>you said you saw. It's just even though i'm you know,

519
00:25:21.599 --> 00:25:23.480
<v Speaker 1>so therefore I'm not calling you a liar at all.

520
00:25:23.480 --> 00:25:26.319
<v Speaker 1>It's just me. I'm one of those extreme skeptics when

521
00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:27.839
<v Speaker 1>it comes to you, because it's.

522
00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:32.559
<v Speaker 2>Like I shore, in fact, I look for other alternatives.

523
00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Me and my friend Kenny Thibodeau, along with Robert Pravo,

524
00:25:35.759 --> 00:25:38.319
<v Speaker 2>we actually into other possibilities like maybe it was a

525
00:25:38.880 --> 00:25:41.960
<v Speaker 2>relative species from an ancient hyena type or something along

526
00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:46.039
<v Speaker 2>those lines, because hyenas aren't even canines. Okay, whatever I

527
00:25:46.079 --> 00:25:48.839
<v Speaker 2>saw was hyena like, so I can't say it was

528
00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:51.200
<v Speaker 2>a dog man because it's not a dog. So that

529
00:25:51.279 --> 00:25:53.880
<v Speaker 2>scientific part of my brain's going, well, if it's not

530
00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:56.240
<v Speaker 2>a canine, you can't say it's a dog man. You know,

531
00:25:56.279 --> 00:26:00.359
<v Speaker 2>it's something help but it's a inscription of other people

532
00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:03.240
<v Speaker 2>are seeing too, So I'm kind of caught on the fence.

533
00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Here, right, No, I get what you're saying, I mean,

534
00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:10.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean you saw something that clearly defiance like or

535
00:26:10.200 --> 00:26:15.640
<v Speaker 1>appears to be canine light. So because I mean, the dog.

536
00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:20.119
<v Speaker 3>Man has history too, just like Bigfoot does, right, I

537
00:26:20.200 --> 00:26:23.640
<v Speaker 3>mean it goes back, you know, for for for many

538
00:26:23.720 --> 00:26:26.119
<v Speaker 3>many many years, and different cultures also.

539
00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:28.599
<v Speaker 4>And it's my thought process is.

540
00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:32.519
<v Speaker 3>When people start talking about any part of the crypti aspect,

541
00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:34.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm the one that's got to keep an open mind

542
00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:37.920
<v Speaker 3>because you got Bigfoot competing against dog Man, you got

543
00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:40.759
<v Speaker 3>dog Man competing against Lizardman, and vice versa.

544
00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:43.920
<v Speaker 4>And that's why you get these different groups.

545
00:26:43.960 --> 00:26:46.799
<v Speaker 3>Well, they'll lean more towards this way than the other way,

546
00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:53.000
<v Speaker 3>but not everybody's crazy. People see something that they can't

547
00:26:53.039 --> 00:26:55.799
<v Speaker 3>explain and they try to describe at the best they

548
00:26:55.799 --> 00:27:00.279
<v Speaker 3>can or the encounter that they have. Sure, uh uh yeah,

549
00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:02.920
<v Speaker 3>I got an open mind towards that too, because you

550
00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:03.720
<v Speaker 3>know that's.

551
00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:06.720
<v Speaker 2>I do as well. But you know, you do have

552
00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:08.960
<v Speaker 2>to have that skepticism though. There has to be that

553
00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:11.519
<v Speaker 2>healthy dose of skepticism so you don't fall for anything

554
00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:14.720
<v Speaker 2>not so open that your brains leak out.

555
00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Ye, right, So I mean I guess like on my part,

556
00:27:20.559 --> 00:27:24.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, I want to believe on that. Like now,

557
00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:27.279
<v Speaker 1>like when it comes to Bigfoot, I'm not just a believer.

558
00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm a knower, you know. I I had my experiences,

559
00:27:31.079 --> 00:27:33.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, and then i've you know, I found the evidence,

560
00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:37.200
<v Speaker 1>you know to back it up. But like the dogma thing,

561
00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:40.799
<v Speaker 1>like just the way people, here's my thing because you know,

562
00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:43.440
<v Speaker 1>like you know, we're all all of us here on

563
00:27:43.480 --> 00:27:47.079
<v Speaker 1>the panel, we're we're all on social media, and we're

564
00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:49.279
<v Speaker 1>we all you know, we belong to a lot of

565
00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:53.799
<v Speaker 1>these bigfoot and cryptic groups. You know. For the longest time,

566
00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:55.559
<v Speaker 1>I was actually on one of the dog man groups

567
00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:57.680
<v Speaker 1>because you know, like, hey, if there's evidence out there,

568
00:27:57.799 --> 00:27:59.480
<v Speaker 1>people are finding stuff, I need to see it for

569
00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:03.279
<v Speaker 1>myself because you know, again, I want to believe. But

570
00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:07.000
<v Speaker 1>my biggest thing is, you know, and for those who

571
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:10.279
<v Speaker 1>don't know me, I'm a wildlife and bigfoot researcher. I

572
00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:13.319
<v Speaker 1>look at big wildlife before I come to any conclusions

573
00:28:13.279 --> 00:28:16.440
<v Speaker 1>towards bigfoot. Right. So with that is said, with a

574
00:28:16.440 --> 00:28:19.279
<v Speaker 1>lot of the evidence that does that that I have

575
00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:24.160
<v Speaker 1>seen on these dog man groups, people are posting pictures

576
00:28:24.200 --> 00:28:28.880
<v Speaker 1>of feeline tracks again feed line that track and trying

577
00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:31.599
<v Speaker 1>to claim them as dog man tracks, and so that's

578
00:28:31.640 --> 00:28:36.960
<v Speaker 1>where that's you know. Yeah, so that's where my phrase

579
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:39.480
<v Speaker 1>that I share so on my Facebook, learn and know

580
00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:42.839
<v Speaker 1>what is known before seeking the young known, learn your wildlife,

581
00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Learn what does Yeah. So that's where I have a

582
00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:51.839
<v Speaker 1>hard time, like, okay, you know, so I don't know

583
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:54.440
<v Speaker 1>the history. I haven't really died too much into the

584
00:28:54.480 --> 00:28:57.680
<v Speaker 1>history of the Dogman phenomenon except for the holy little

585
00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:01.119
<v Speaker 1>bit of history that I know from what I found.

586
00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:04.640
<v Speaker 1>A lot of the stories originated out of Michigan. And

587
00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:08.119
<v Speaker 1>the story that I found from Michigan, so Paul's they

588
00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:10.680
<v Speaker 1>came from a campfire story that turned into a song,

589
00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:14.039
<v Speaker 1>and then stories started being spread out and then the

590
00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:17.839
<v Speaker 1>legend was born from there. I I'm sure there's something

591
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:19.799
<v Speaker 1>more that can dates back a lot more than that,

592
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:21.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, And this came from the early nineteen eighties

593
00:29:21.960 --> 00:29:23.279
<v Speaker 1>or maybe seventy there is.

594
00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:26.079
<v Speaker 2>So that's kind of what got me really into the

595
00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:29.519
<v Speaker 2>dog Man phenomena, though Daniel is the Cherokee actually have

596
00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:33.759
<v Speaker 2>a oral condition where they talk about the Ulanga Dogada okay,

597
00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:38.160
<v Speaker 2>and they described this as a bipedal wolf like creature

598
00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:41.319
<v Speaker 2>that its breath is brandchy, you can smell its breath

599
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:44.519
<v Speaker 2>from miles away. Its red eyes glow in the dark,

600
00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:46.960
<v Speaker 2>and it hunts, you know, the hunters and the women

601
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:49.880
<v Speaker 2>and the children. So they fear this thing. And a

602
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:52.119
<v Speaker 2>lot of people will cite that as solid proof that

603
00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:54.400
<v Speaker 2>the dog Man is real, but they don't believe the

604
00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:58.279
<v Speaker 2>whole Cherokee legend though, because in Cherokee legend, the oolanga

605
00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:00.920
<v Speaker 2>can actually change sheep, so it can go from a

606
00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:05.359
<v Speaker 2>bunk into a zombie like human. Okay, so you can't

607
00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:08.319
<v Speaker 2>site that as solid, concrete proof that dog Man is real,

608
00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:10.720
<v Speaker 2>but it does give you something to examine closer.

609
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:19.079
<v Speaker 1>Okay. Now, in my own private, personal folklore, I hunt women,

610
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:27.799
<v Speaker 1>now let me stop. I mean I usually I usually

611
00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:35.039
<v Speaker 1>take them to my camp. But that's about it.

612
00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got the cops knocking on my door and

613
00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:40.119
<v Speaker 2>then I was like, yeah, I won't hunt women anymore.

614
00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I had to throw that out there. I'm sorry.

615
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:46.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm a I'm a goof.

616
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:50.240
<v Speaker 2>He's a good thing, Daniel Webty's a good thing.

617
00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:57.759
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. So Yeah, So, I I personally have not really

618
00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:02.079
<v Speaker 1>dived into the whole dog Man, you know. I mean,

619
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:04.839
<v Speaker 1>would that be saying when I'm out in the woods.

620
00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:08.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm only watching the ground. I really am,

621
00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:12.160
<v Speaker 1>because that's how I have I feel like I've been

622
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:14.519
<v Speaker 1>successful at finding a lot of the tracks in the

623
00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:16.440
<v Speaker 1>past that I have come across and we're able to

624
00:31:16.519 --> 00:31:20.200
<v Speaker 1>get cast of. But you know, as far as looking

625
00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:25.319
<v Speaker 1>for anything that stands out otherwise, I have yet to

626
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:28.799
<v Speaker 1>really find anything that really suggests like just here in

627
00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:30.839
<v Speaker 1>Virginia alone. I mean, oh, you know that I can

628
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:34.359
<v Speaker 1>even speak for the short times I've been up in Pennsylvania,

629
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:39.519
<v Speaker 1>but I really would love to find some evidence out

630
00:31:39.559 --> 00:31:42.839
<v Speaker 1>here because there's many claims that people say that supposed

631
00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:45.160
<v Speaker 1>the dog man's out here on the East Toast, but

632
00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:48.640
<v Speaker 1>I would love to find evidence of such. You know,

633
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:49.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of.

634
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:52.160
<v Speaker 2>People online they'll tell you that dog men are everywhere,

635
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:53.839
<v Speaker 2>which I guess is possible.

636
00:31:54.519 --> 00:31:56.240
<v Speaker 1>But if we're everywhere, though.

637
00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:59.000
<v Speaker 2>We'd find some kind of solid evidence by now. That's

638
00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:01.160
<v Speaker 2>my hang up right there, is you know any tracks

639
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:03.559
<v Speaker 2>that we see, like you said, they're usually feline or

640
00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:07.039
<v Speaker 2>they're you know, rabbits that jumped in the snow, and yeah,

641
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:10.440
<v Speaker 2>really really odd. It looks strange. So to people it's like, oh,

642
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:12.240
<v Speaker 2>that's a dog man and you're looking at it going

643
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:14.680
<v Speaker 2>but no, it's got three toes and it's like the

644
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:16.480
<v Speaker 2>size of your head. How's that a dog?

645
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Exactly.

646
00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:19.039
<v Speaker 4>Oh.

647
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Look, for example, talkbost tracks in the snow. Have you

648
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:26.400
<v Speaker 1>ever look at enough deer tracks that walk in the snow,

649
00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:29.279
<v Speaker 1>and you know, we know deer tracks have but you know,

650
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:32.759
<v Speaker 1>split hoof and they they're pointing, they're sharp and pointing

651
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:35.160
<v Speaker 1>at the tips. Look at the way they drag and

652
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:38.240
<v Speaker 1>step they I was looking at deer tracks a few

653
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:41.160
<v Speaker 1>weeks ago in my backyard and I was like walking

654
00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:43.920
<v Speaker 1>along and said, wow, that's interesting. Look at the way

655
00:32:43.960 --> 00:32:46.400
<v Speaker 1>they step in and dragging your claw. You know, they're hoofts.

656
00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:49.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I was like, some of it looks kind

657
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:50.240
<v Speaker 1>of bizarre, you know.

658
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Like wow, absolutely, yes.

659
00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:55.720
<v Speaker 1>So, I mean because we had a combination of you know,

660
00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:57.920
<v Speaker 1>of course we have cats that stay outside, but we

661
00:32:57.960 --> 00:33:00.799
<v Speaker 1>had cat tracks in the snow. We had little bunny

662
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:02.480
<v Speaker 1>tracks in this snow, and then the dear. We have

663
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:05.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of dear in the yard here. So yeah,

664
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:06.079
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting.

665
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Little bold to say dog man doesn't exist. I think

666
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:11.319
<v Speaker 2>there is something out there, but I think we're kind

667
00:33:11.319 --> 00:33:12.799
<v Speaker 2>of hyping it up a little bit, you know, because

668
00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:14.680
<v Speaker 2>you hear those stories of how they shot the dog

669
00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:17.079
<v Speaker 2>man and the bullet just didn't hurt it. Well, I mean,

670
00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:19.279
<v Speaker 2>if it's flesh and blood, if you shoot anything like that,

671
00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:22.240
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be hurt, it's gonna bleed, it's gonna leave

672
00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:26.039
<v Speaker 2>evidence of its existence. Yet we're all hearing otherwise, you know.

673
00:33:26.200 --> 00:33:28.720
<v Speaker 2>So is it that people are making the stories up?

674
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Are they seeing something that's not really there physically?

675
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:33.000
<v Speaker 4>You know? Is there an.

676
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:36.279
<v Speaker 2>Interdimensional slip to these things. It's all a possibility. We

677
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:38.160
<v Speaker 2>just we don't know yet. We just don't know.

678
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, well, it's funny that you bring that up about

679
00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:44.759
<v Speaker 1>shooting any kind of because I've heard stories about bears

680
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:48.880
<v Speaker 1>being shot. I mean, e'xcuse me, bigfoot being shy and

681
00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:52.680
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't phase them. Well, right, I can tell you

682
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:55.599
<v Speaker 1>there's stories about very large black bears here in Virginia

683
00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:58.880
<v Speaker 1>that have been shine. You might only shoot and wound them.

684
00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:01.319
<v Speaker 1>You may not kill them with a single shoe, because

685
00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:04.920
<v Speaker 1>if they're a large enough animal, yeah, you might have

686
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:07.440
<v Speaker 1>just pissed him off enough to where like, for example,

687
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:10.119
<v Speaker 1>the one a few miles up the road several years ago,

688
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:14.199
<v Speaker 1>a group of hunters were bear hunting right off the

689
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:17.159
<v Speaker 1>mountain the part of the parkway. They were on the

690
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:21.639
<v Speaker 1>base of the mountain and instead of staying together, the

691
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:23.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, one of the guy that shot the bear

692
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:29.440
<v Speaker 1>split off from the other rouit. Oh yeah, yeah, you

693
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:34.199
<v Speaker 1>know what's happened next, old boy? Yeah, that bear did

694
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:37.199
<v Speaker 1>not kill He was pissed off because he got wounded.

695
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:39.840
<v Speaker 1>What did that bear do is he made a circle.

696
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:43.559
<v Speaker 1>He circled around and he found one guy that was

697
00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:48.280
<v Speaker 1>vulnerable all by himself, and that bear happened to go

698
00:34:48.519 --> 00:34:52.119
<v Speaker 1>towards that guy and it starts to attack him. Luckily,

699
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:55.639
<v Speaker 1>the other hunters weren't entirely too far off. They were

700
00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:57.800
<v Speaker 1>able to come in approach and shoot the bear deck

701
00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:03.119
<v Speaker 1>But wow, so I mean, yeah, everybody, Yeah, I think

702
00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:05.719
<v Speaker 1>the guy suffered to us some minor injuries. But yeah,

703
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:07.880
<v Speaker 1>they were able to shoot the bear dead. And then

704
00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:10.440
<v Speaker 1>later on in a local newspaper there was pictures of

705
00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:13.199
<v Speaker 1>the bear. It was a big bear. They had laid

706
00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:14.880
<v Speaker 1>out in front of a in the frontrunt of a

707
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:17.519
<v Speaker 1>back of bucket, laid out stretched. I mean, wow, it

708
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:18.039
<v Speaker 1>was huge.

709
00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Getting chased by a bear is one of the most

710
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:23.119
<v Speaker 2>terrifying things to happen. I had it happened to me once.

711
00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:25.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't ever want to repeat that again.

712
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:25.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

713
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:27.840
<v Speaker 2>No, I got chased by a mama bear and uhuh

714
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:29.000
<v Speaker 2>not doing that again.

715
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Wow? Yeah, well compared to us humans, yeah, a bear

716
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:36.480
<v Speaker 1>could outrun him, because you know, bears could run up

717
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:38.960
<v Speaker 1>for thirty miles an hour. We can't run that fast.

718
00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:41.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't think she wanted to hurt me really or

719
00:35:41.920 --> 00:35:43.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, maim me at all. I think she's just

720
00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:45.880
<v Speaker 2>trying to get me away from her babies. But she

721
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:48.800
<v Speaker 2>was to do so, and it definitely worked. It most

722
00:35:48.920 --> 00:35:50.760
<v Speaker 2>definitely worked. And I was just like when I got

723
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:52.880
<v Speaker 2>free of that bear, I was kissing the ground, like, oh,

724
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:53.519
<v Speaker 2>thank you God.

725
00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Wow, crazy man? Do you guys have a lot of beer?

726
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:01.639
<v Speaker 1>What's that?

727
00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:04.519
<v Speaker 2>I did have a big foot encounter or a possible

728
00:36:04.679 --> 00:36:06.639
<v Speaker 2>bigfoot encounter here in Arizona as well.

729
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:09.719
<v Speaker 1>Really, yes, yes, I.

730
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Went a ghost hunting with a friend of mine. He

731
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:15.000
<v Speaker 2>came down from Georgia. He came all the way to

732
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:17.639
<v Speaker 2>Arizona and he wanted to go to this mountain range

733
00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:19.840
<v Speaker 2>that was nearby and he wanted to go looking for bigfoot.

734
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:22.199
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, all right, yeah, great, let's go. And

735
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:24.920
<v Speaker 2>it was maybe about midnight, maybe one o'clock in the morning.

736
00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:27.320
<v Speaker 2>I got this really crazy idea of taking my phone

737
00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:30.360
<v Speaker 2>and playing the Ohio howell. I'm sure you guys are familiar.

738
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:34.039
<v Speaker 1>With that one. Oh yeah, yeah for your okay.

739
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:35.519
<v Speaker 2>So what I was doing is I would play it.

740
00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:38.320
<v Speaker 2>I'd wait maybe about five minutes, play it again, wait

741
00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:41.559
<v Speaker 2>five minutes, play it again. About the fourth time, we

742
00:36:41.639 --> 00:36:43.559
<v Speaker 2>heard something way off in the background. We heard that

743
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:46.800
<v Speaker 2>whoop whoop, and that's when I turned off the phone.

744
00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:49.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, whoa did you hear that? We're just

745
00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:51.119
<v Speaker 2>we're sitting there in the dark. We turned off our lights,

746
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:53.639
<v Speaker 2>and his poor pit bull started getting really nervous. And

747
00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:55.679
<v Speaker 2>it was a big pit bull Daniel, so she didn't

748
00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:58.360
<v Speaker 2>get afraid of that much, but she looked really nervous.

749
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:01.599
<v Speaker 2>She started shaking all sudden. We hear a rhythmic clapping

750
00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:06.840
<v Speaker 2>moving closer to us. It was like a steady like that.

751
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:09.559
<v Speaker 2>And we turned our lights back on and as we

752
00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:12.599
<v Speaker 2>scan the distance, maybe about thirty feet away, we saw

753
00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:15.599
<v Speaker 2>eyes that were maybe about seven feet above the vegetation,

754
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:18.079
<v Speaker 2>and when our lights hit it, it duck down real quick.

755
00:37:18.920 --> 00:37:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.

756
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:22.840
<v Speaker 2>We started moving off. Something was throwing rocks at us,

757
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:25.119
<v Speaker 2>not hitting us, but throwing them at our feet. We

758
00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:28.199
<v Speaker 2>heard the whooping sound again, so we started going away.

759
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:30.480
<v Speaker 2>We started moving down the hill into the valley, and

760
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:33.760
<v Speaker 2>whatever it was, it was paralleling us up on the ridge,

761
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:36.440
<v Speaker 2>walking alongside us until we actually got out of there.

762
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Wow, now that sounds like a big foot behavior based

763
00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:45.639
<v Speaker 1>off all the other descriptions.

764
00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:49.320
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, absolutely, yeah, So I think that was a

765
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:50.480
<v Speaker 2>possible big foot encounter.

766
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I really do.

767
00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:53.000
<v Speaker 2>I didn't see it, you know, up close. I didn't

768
00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:55.079
<v Speaker 2>see what his base was like or what color it was,

769
00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:58.199
<v Speaker 2>but I saw the eyes pining bright. So when the

770
00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:00.639
<v Speaker 2>lights hit the eyes, they were thing off.

771
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:04.159
<v Speaker 1>What color was the reflection of the eyes.

772
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:07.199
<v Speaker 2>It was almost a mixture of like the yellow, but

773
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:09.119
<v Speaker 2>depending on the angle and turn red.

774
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:16.239
<v Speaker 1>Okay, interesting because my encounter I share when people ask

775
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:18.440
<v Speaker 1>me to, like, I mean, I shared it in the

776
00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:21.679
<v Speaker 1>story I tell. But the encounter that me and five

777
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:25.079
<v Speaker 1>others had back in twenty fourteen here in Virginia, Now

778
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:27.519
<v Speaker 1>we all had headlamps. They all took place after midnight.

779
00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:30.320
<v Speaker 1>But what we were seeing they all had bright, yellowish

780
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:35.360
<v Speaker 1>looking glowing eyes from a reflection from our headlamps. Oh yeah,

781
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:37.840
<v Speaker 1>So That's why I love that. I only hear this

782
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:40.840
<v Speaker 1>on a few occasions from other people, but I want

783
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:43.360
<v Speaker 1>to know, like that's what I'm kind of like, Okay,

784
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:45.199
<v Speaker 1>this is awesome. I'm not the only one that saw

785
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:45.880
<v Speaker 1>yellow lives.

786
00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:50.280
<v Speaker 2>We definitely did. Definitely did so. And the way that

787
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:52.360
<v Speaker 2>it ducked down real quick, it did not want to

788
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:54.320
<v Speaker 2>be seen, you know, because when that lak was coming

789
00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:56.320
<v Speaker 2>into direction and the light hit it, it just said,

790
00:38:56.320 --> 00:38:57.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm out of hearing it dropped down real quick.

791
00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:03.159
<v Speaker 1>Right. The reason I'm glad you I asked that and

792
00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:06.559
<v Speaker 1>you shared that is because I get to hear a

793
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:08.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of stories where people say, yeah, I saw red

794
00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:12.000
<v Speaker 1>eye shine. You know, Okay, red eye shine could be

795
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:15.199
<v Speaker 1>a number of species, but when it comes to something,

796
00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:18.559
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to height, based off my experience on

797
00:39:18.760 --> 00:39:22.360
<v Speaker 1>like bears, just black bears alone, you shine a light

798
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:25.679
<v Speaker 1>up their eyes, you got to see red. Yes, every

799
00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:29.400
<v Speaker 1>black bear here in Virginia that I've never seen, either

800
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:32.360
<v Speaker 1>at night, crossing the road on me or whatever, they

801
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:37.480
<v Speaker 1>have always had red eye shine. And they say even

802
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:40.440
<v Speaker 1>a grizzly will have red eye shine. I never seen

803
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:42.880
<v Speaker 1>a grizzly, but I've heard from others that yeah, or

804
00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:46.159
<v Speaker 1>Grizzly will produce red eye shine. So it always makes

805
00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:49.400
<v Speaker 1>me question, right, it always makes me question, are these

806
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:51.559
<v Speaker 1>people really? I mean, they claim to see you, Bigfoot,

807
00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:53.679
<v Speaker 1>but you know, hey, the eye shine was red and

808
00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:56.039
<v Speaker 1>it was like seven eight feet tall. Could have been

809
00:39:56.039 --> 00:39:58.360
<v Speaker 1>a big tall bear standing up at night looking at them,

810
00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:01.559
<v Speaker 1>and they you know, they're not seeing features of whatever

811
00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:07.440
<v Speaker 1>they're witnessing. That's always big a question. You know. I'm

812
00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:10.079
<v Speaker 1>not saying big but doesn't produce red eye shine. I mean,

813
00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I have no idea, but I know

814
00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:14.760
<v Speaker 1>what I saw in twenty fourteen. All three of them

815
00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:15.960
<v Speaker 1>had yellow eyes.

816
00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:21.400
<v Speaker 3>But with the type of right, with the type of

817
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:25.000
<v Speaker 3>light also determined the type of eye shine you might

818
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:25.519
<v Speaker 3>get back.

819
00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:30.519
<v Speaker 1>See, that's another question. Yeah, I've always wondered that too.

820
00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:33.599
<v Speaker 2>The intensity of the light determines what color the eye

821
00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:35.639
<v Speaker 2>shine's going to be. So if you have a really

822
00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:37.800
<v Speaker 2>dim light, you might get kind of like a faint white.

823
00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:40.119
<v Speaker 2>If your light's bright off, you might get yellow like

824
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:43.039
<v Speaker 2>we got. And if it's right, you might get the red.

825
00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:45.079
<v Speaker 2>You might even get the blue or the green. So

826
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:48.039
<v Speaker 2>it's possible that Bigfoot has a wide range of eye

827
00:40:48.039 --> 00:40:50.239
<v Speaker 2>shine color depending on the you know, the in tensity

828
00:40:50.280 --> 00:40:50.519
<v Speaker 2>of your.

829
00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:54.119
<v Speaker 1>Light, right, which, yeah, see now that makes sense because

830
00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean a couple of us, I will recall we

831
00:40:56.800 --> 00:40:59.320
<v Speaker 1>had some bright headlamps on a couple of them. A

832
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:02.400
<v Speaker 1>couple of them might have damn, but a couple of

833
00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:06.320
<v Speaker 1>us had some very extremely high LED you know.

834
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:08.880
<v Speaker 2>So there you go. And I think, you know, also

835
00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:11.960
<v Speaker 2>it depends if it's natural light as opposed to LED

836
00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:14.559
<v Speaker 2>lights or anything like that. I think depending on that

837
00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:16.280
<v Speaker 2>that you could also change the eye color with that

838
00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:16.800
<v Speaker 2>as well.

839
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:20.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I was thinking, yeah, that's why I am

840
00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:22.440
<v Speaker 4>hmmm interesting.

841
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:26.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, if you notice humans with the old school pliari

842
00:41:26.239 --> 00:41:28.559
<v Speaker 2>cameras when we used to take pictures during the eighties, Daniel,

843
00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:30.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, we used to come out with red eyes.

844
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:33.159
<v Speaker 2>It looked like a demonic uprising of the eighties because

845
00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:33.960
<v Speaker 2>we all had the red.

846
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:37.920
<v Speaker 1>I got plenty pictures of meet with red eyes, that's

847
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:38.320
<v Speaker 1>for sure.

848
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:42.559
<v Speaker 2>There you go, and humans don't give off eyeshine, So

849
00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:45.360
<v Speaker 2>maybe you know it's the the bright light that's causing

850
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:47.639
<v Speaker 2>the red reflection from different bigfoot.

851
00:41:48.440 --> 00:41:52.320
<v Speaker 1>M A very interesting way to look at that though, Yeah,

852
00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:58.599
<v Speaker 1>for sure, mm hmm, yeah, absolutely hmm. Yeah, I wonder

853
00:41:58.639 --> 00:42:01.000
<v Speaker 1>if there's a way, I mean, do you think I mean,

854
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:03.280
<v Speaker 1>even David and Listen feel free to jump in on this.

855
00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:07.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean as far as to determining a

856
00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:13.239
<v Speaker 1>more accurate lens cover or or eye shine color. Is

857
00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:16.159
<v Speaker 1>there something you guys think we should be able to

858
00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:19.800
<v Speaker 1>be able to do do or produce or use that

859
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:23.199
<v Speaker 1>might give them more accurate eye shine color? Then, I

860
00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:24.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Maybe that's kind of a tough question. I

861
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:27.280
<v Speaker 1>don't know, but that's something I would like to know.

862
00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:32.519
<v Speaker 8>I mean, I think we're kind of limited on the

863
00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:34.519
<v Speaker 8>kind of lights we can use when we're out there

864
00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:38.000
<v Speaker 8>because because just stand the bolt and stuff like that,

865
00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:42.000
<v Speaker 8>then you got your i R you know, uh, from

866
00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:43.559
<v Speaker 8>your cameras and stuff like that.

867
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:45.440
<v Speaker 3>Plus you got your i R flag flight I said

868
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:48.920
<v Speaker 3>we used sometimes, right, I mean, that's not that we

869
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:50.840
<v Speaker 3>can look at as soon that we can come up with,

870
00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:52.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, for a camp house and stuff like that.

871
00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:56.679
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I think we'll be kind of limited on

872
00:42:56.679 --> 00:42:58.800
<v Speaker 4>on the scope of what we might.

873
00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:00.960
<v Speaker 3>Be able to get to be able to well you

874
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:05.000
<v Speaker 3>could do it, you know.

875
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:07.679
<v Speaker 2>So I'm not saying that Bigfoot is a type of ape. Okay,

876
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:11.760
<v Speaker 2>but your gorillas and chimpanzees, they are primates, okay, now,

877
00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:16.159
<v Speaker 2>primate category. What we could do is test the brightness

878
00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:19.000
<v Speaker 2>of lights on different primates to see what color eyeshine

879
00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:20.440
<v Speaker 2>they give off.

880
00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:26.719
<v Speaker 1>That's true, Yes, absolutely, that is true. Because yeah, I'm

881
00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:29.880
<v Speaker 1>glad you brought that up, Ran, because now there's many

882
00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:32.400
<v Speaker 1>people out there that look at Bigfoot a type of

883
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:37.760
<v Speaker 1>human and they'll they'll deny the primate side of things. However,

884
00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:40.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, like I bring this up all the time

885
00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:43.360
<v Speaker 1>in various discussions in my research, I believe there's a

886
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:47.719
<v Speaker 1>big contradiction in this because us as humans, we're considered primates, right, yes,

887
00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:53.079
<v Speaker 1>thank you, primate, yes exactly, we're on the great rates,

888
00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:56.320
<v Speaker 1>you know. So there's a card addiction. If you're going

889
00:43:56.360 --> 00:43:58.639
<v Speaker 1>to deny one and except the other, you can't do that.

890
00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:02.639
<v Speaker 1>You got to take them both together. So so that's

891
00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:06.960
<v Speaker 1>my honestly, go ahead, please do go ahead.

892
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:12.320
<v Speaker 2>So okay. With the way that people view Bigfoot as

893
00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:15.440
<v Speaker 2>a spiritual entity, I think they like the romanticism that

894
00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:16.960
<v Speaker 2>comes with it, because when you talk to a lot

895
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:20.079
<v Speaker 2>of the indigenous tribes, Okay, Bigfoot is viewed as a

896
00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:23.760
<v Speaker 2>spiritual being. You like the Ojibwe call him the Yeah

897
00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:27.400
<v Speaker 2>all right, he was a greataker. That Tom taught us honesty.

898
00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:29.639
<v Speaker 2>And there's a little irony in there because Bigfoot the

899
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:34.280
<v Speaker 2>Sabe brings us honesty and truth. Yet how many hoaxers

900
00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:36.400
<v Speaker 2>do we have in the Bigfoot field? I mean, there's

901
00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:39.320
<v Speaker 2>irony there. But I think people need to kind of

902
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:42.320
<v Speaker 2>deviate away from the spirituality just a little bit so

903
00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:44.760
<v Speaker 2>we can actually find answers. Okay, you can't answer every

904
00:44:44.840 --> 00:44:46.480
<v Speaker 2>question by going, oh, well, I don't have to answer

905
00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:50.119
<v Speaker 2>that because it's spiritual. You're not doing you do that.

906
00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:52.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, when you shut people down from asking questions,

907
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:54.920
<v Speaker 2>what are you even doing? You're you're not serving the

908
00:44:54.920 --> 00:44:57.400
<v Speaker 2>field in any way, shape or form. You're just being

909
00:44:57.400 --> 00:45:01.039
<v Speaker 2>stuck up. You're putting a cog, you know, screwing the cogs.

910
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:03.519
<v Speaker 2>So we can't be a well oiled machine. And that's

911
00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:06.079
<v Speaker 2>a big problem in the cryptosiology field. We're not allowed

912
00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:07.880
<v Speaker 2>to ask questions.

913
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:13.039
<v Speaker 1>Right, people get offended by questions we asked. We have

914
00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:16.079
<v Speaker 1>questions because David, I'm sorry.

915
00:45:16.280 --> 00:45:19.800
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's seemed getting worse nowadays. Ay, and everything's

916
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:20.159
<v Speaker 4>going on.

917
00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:21.960
<v Speaker 3>You got you know, you're like you all of a sudden,

918
00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:25.920
<v Speaker 3>you've got your hope, you got all this AI stuff.

919
00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:29.679
<v Speaker 4>And then people that really hadn't had any experiences were.

920
00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:32.159
<v Speaker 3>Saying this, So how they're gonna believe those that truly

921
00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:35.440
<v Speaker 3>say that they had an experience. It's basically gonna be

922
00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:38.199
<v Speaker 3>boiling down to it's gonna be first hand experiences. What

923
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:40.960
<v Speaker 3>all of us is going to come down to. Yeah,

924
00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:45.239
<v Speaker 3>sure you believe or not believe anymore photos and so

925
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:48.239
<v Speaker 3>on and so forth to where you can rationalize about

926
00:45:48.239 --> 00:45:50.519
<v Speaker 3>what you're looking at. I mean anything I see on

927
00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:52.000
<v Speaker 3>the internet, Moore, I just take it with the brain.

928
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:56.719
<v Speaker 3>St That's why we go camping to get our own experience,

929
00:45:56.800 --> 00:46:01.599
<v Speaker 3>and and we may get some fantastic sometimes and then

930
00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:04.719
<v Speaker 3>at some point and then who's gonna believe that one

931
00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:07.360
<v Speaker 3>we tell them? You know, because of all this fake

932
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:11.320
<v Speaker 3>stuff going around, and people want to embellish things and

933
00:46:11.440 --> 00:46:14.480
<v Speaker 3>they tell their story and and and every shadow they

934
00:46:14.519 --> 00:46:17.000
<v Speaker 3>see is a bigfoot or a dog man or whatever

935
00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:17.639
<v Speaker 3>the case may be.

936
00:46:18.639 --> 00:46:20.280
<v Speaker 4>But you gotta be able to ratchal.

937
00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:23.039
<v Speaker 3>I sit back, look at it, like you said, Daniel,

938
00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:26.719
<v Speaker 3>know what you're doing out there, Understand the environment, people

939
00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:30.719
<v Speaker 3>behavior and behavior, and work backwards. It's where you can

940
00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:34.159
<v Speaker 3>exhaust any possibility. And once you get all the possibilities

941
00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:35.679
<v Speaker 3>exhausted to what it could.

942
00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:39.159
<v Speaker 2>Have been, then you may have something there you go.

943
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:42.320
<v Speaker 2>You have to bunk yourself first. You have to debunk yourself.

944
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Don't be too proud to do that. That's what I

945
00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:46.320
<v Speaker 2>do with myself when I go out researching. If I

946
00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:49.480
<v Speaker 2>have photos or videos, I'm scrubbing through it and I'll

947
00:46:49.480 --> 00:46:51.920
<v Speaker 2>debunk myself before I say, oh, look I got a

948
00:46:51.960 --> 00:46:54.880
<v Speaker 2>bigfoot in her baby and twelve dog men behind them.

949
00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Right right? Well, yeah, well you know right with that me,

950
00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:02.119
<v Speaker 1>you said, like I tell people when you know, like

951
00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:05.320
<v Speaker 1>I've been questioned and asked this, you know, multiple times

952
00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:08.280
<v Speaker 1>from people that are new and that want to get

953
00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:11.320
<v Speaker 1>involved with this, you know, like, hey, what what could

954
00:47:11.320 --> 00:47:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I do to get involved with big foot research? I said, Well,

955
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:17.360
<v Speaker 1>it's technically, I told them. I says, there's no right

956
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:19.159
<v Speaker 1>or wrong way to do this. I said, you've gotta

957
00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:22.079
<v Speaker 1>have fun with it regardless. But you know, I give

958
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:24.960
<v Speaker 1>them some basics, Like my basics are well, first of all,

959
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:28.280
<v Speaker 1>choose an area, get familiar with it, you know, uh,

960
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:30.920
<v Speaker 1>learn about the wildlife that you know, you know, learn

961
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:35.840
<v Speaker 1>about what you know exists, and having these areas, get

962
00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:37.760
<v Speaker 1>familiar with all them, get familiar with a tract. If

963
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:39.840
<v Speaker 1>you don't know wildlife, that's the first thing I would

964
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:45.320
<v Speaker 1>tell them. But you know, there's so much, uh, there's

965
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:48.440
<v Speaker 1>so many other things, Like when you go out in

966
00:47:48.519 --> 00:47:50.400
<v Speaker 1>the woods. This is the biggest thing I tell people.

967
00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:53.440
<v Speaker 1>And again this is easier said than done, because I

968
00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:55.719
<v Speaker 1>know I get caught up with this, but I tell them,

969
00:47:55.719 --> 00:47:58.119
<v Speaker 1>when you go out there, don't think about bigfoot. Get

970
00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:00.920
<v Speaker 1>big Foot of your brain the first thing you do,

971
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:05.840
<v Speaker 1>regardless of the cryptic, exactly, regardless of the crypto, your

972
00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:08.400
<v Speaker 1>research and get it off your brain, because think about

973
00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:12.440
<v Speaker 1>every other while. Like, yeah, again, I'm gonna say that's

974
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:14.360
<v Speaker 1>easier said than done, because when I'm out in the

975
00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:17.400
<v Speaker 1>woods now, I mean even till this day, I'm like,

976
00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm right there at age with you. I've been doing

977
00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:24.440
<v Speaker 1>this for over fifteen years, you know, And like, again,

978
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:27.199
<v Speaker 1>it's easier said than done. Because you're excited, you're pumped up.

979
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:29.280
<v Speaker 1>You want to find that evidence. You want to find

980
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:31.559
<v Speaker 1>something that might contribute that you might be able to

981
00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:36.440
<v Speaker 1>contribute to a bigfoot or whatever your researcher. And again,

982
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:40.559
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot does creep up on you. It's like, you know, oh, man,

983
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:44.320
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be bigfoot evidence right there. Damn it, Daniel,

984
00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:46.639
<v Speaker 1>stop that's probably a bear or whether did that or

985
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:50.119
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So I know it's easier

986
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:52.280
<v Speaker 1>said than done. We get pumped up in what we're

987
00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:52.840
<v Speaker 1>involved in.

988
00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:56.000
<v Speaker 2>So that's what we differ though, Daniel, because like when

989
00:48:56.039 --> 00:48:58.920
<v Speaker 2>I go out doing my skin walker investigations, I don't

990
00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:01.440
<v Speaker 2>want to see a skinwalker. I'm not going, oh, maybe

991
00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:03.280
<v Speaker 2>today's the day that I'm gonna run into a you know,

992
00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:05.719
<v Speaker 2>a Luci. I'm going, Please don't let this be the

993
00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:07.280
<v Speaker 2>day that I run into one. I don't want to

994
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:08.239
<v Speaker 2>see one.

995
00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Right, But uh, I mean all kinds of thoughts run

996
00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:18.599
<v Speaker 1>for your mind when you hear unfamiliar sounds or strangeness

997
00:49:18.599 --> 00:49:21.679
<v Speaker 1>out there. I mean, I'm sure David Molist can tell

998
00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:23.519
<v Speaker 1>you can we've heard, you know, maybe not with me

999
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:25.920
<v Speaker 1>enough where they've heard enough on their own, you know

1000
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:29.760
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, where we question things, you know, Uh.

1001
00:49:31.039 --> 00:49:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Familiarize yourself with a known wildlife. That's what I always

1002
00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:37.599
<v Speaker 2>tell people, right, I jump on the line, look up

1003
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:41.360
<v Speaker 2>different noises like elk foxes, bobcasts because you might hear

1004
00:49:41.360 --> 00:49:43.559
<v Speaker 2>that when you're out there. So if you know what sound,

1005
00:49:43.880 --> 00:49:45.960
<v Speaker 2>you can dismiss those noises right off the bat.

1006
00:49:46.119 --> 00:49:46.639
<v Speaker 1>So you're not going to.

1007
00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:52.400
<v Speaker 2>You're not going to sit there. And that was a

1008
00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:54.480
<v Speaker 2>big foot that you can actually sit there and go no,

1009
00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:55.800
<v Speaker 2>what that was?

1010
00:49:55.800 --> 00:49:56.119
<v Speaker 4>Was this?

1011
00:49:56.639 --> 00:49:59.039
<v Speaker 2>So moving on right?

1012
00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's funny, guys.

1013
00:50:01.639 --> 00:50:05.239
<v Speaker 3>The story on that too is there are some people

1014
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:09.039
<v Speaker 3>that say that bigfoot mimic.

1015
00:50:09.679 --> 00:50:13.559
<v Speaker 4>You know, you got that aspect to look at too, but.

1016
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:18.800
<v Speaker 3>At this point at bigfoot, because ols do the same thing.

1017
00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Sound right, Well, you know, it's just I was called

1018
00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:30.159
<v Speaker 1>an idiot not long ago in a bigfoot group. Well

1019
00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:33.599
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a local Virginia bigfoot group. And the guy

1020
00:50:33.599 --> 00:50:35.280
<v Speaker 1>who runs the group, he's a good friend of mine.

1021
00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:37.280
<v Speaker 1>He's a really nice guy, much older gentleman.

1022
00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:38.400
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

1023
00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:42.639
<v Speaker 1>Well, somebody in the group, well he well he shared

1024
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:47.239
<v Speaker 1>a YouTube video from this other individual that lives out

1025
00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:52.000
<v Speaker 1>in Charlottesville, Virginia. And anyway, he played this audio that

1026
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:55.840
<v Speaker 1>he captured and and I listened to the audio. I

1027
00:50:55.880 --> 00:50:57.880
<v Speaker 1>was curious to see what kind of audio. You know, hey,

1028
00:50:57.920 --> 00:50:59.960
<v Speaker 1>if it's in Virginia and I you know, it was

1029
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:02.719
<v Speaker 1>something strange that somebody recorded. Of course, I want to

1030
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:04.599
<v Speaker 1>be on topic. I want to hear this. Then maybe

1031
00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:07.599
<v Speaker 1>it's something i've heard before, you know, So of course,

1032
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:11.400
<v Speaker 1>sure enough, I pushed I pushed play on his YouTube video.

1033
00:51:11.519 --> 00:51:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Listen to this sound. And now from the record. Before

1034
00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I even listen to this, they were trying. They were

1035
00:51:18.039 --> 00:51:21.440
<v Speaker 1>clearly saying this was not no knowing species, this was

1036
00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:25.639
<v Speaker 1>something else. This is something blah blah blah. So okay,

1037
00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:27.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is good. I was already I

1038
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:30.400
<v Speaker 1>was already intrigued. I had to listen to this. I

1039
00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:34.239
<v Speaker 1>pushed play on his YouTube video, and I'm listening to

1040
00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:40.599
<v Speaker 1>this audio, this gentleman recording, and I was like, okay,

1041
00:51:41.039 --> 00:51:43.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm listening to all these owls and I'm waiting for

1042
00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:46.639
<v Speaker 1>something else that should pop up. Come to the end

1043
00:51:46.639 --> 00:51:49.920
<v Speaker 1>of the audio. I never heard nothing different. It was

1044
00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:53.119
<v Speaker 1>so I was like, wait a minute, I said, is

1045
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:55.119
<v Speaker 1>this what is this serious? I was like, are you

1046
00:51:55.119 --> 00:51:59.559
<v Speaker 1>guys serious? I was like, I've had owls over the years,

1047
00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:02.360
<v Speaker 1>close to distance. I've heard them all and people don't

1048
00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:05.199
<v Speaker 1>realize he's bart Al makes some god awful crazy sounds

1049
00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:07.880
<v Speaker 1>and I've heard them all. I promise you, I promise

1050
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:10.400
<v Speaker 1>you they do. Hey. I was like, I've been out

1051
00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:12.920
<v Speaker 1>in the woods enough by myself with others. I've heard

1052
00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:15.119
<v Speaker 1>them all. They make some weird ship, you know. So

1053
00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:17.320
<v Speaker 1>we got.

1054
00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:21.559
<v Speaker 4>Them around here and Barty Allison. Every now and then,

1055
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:23.559
<v Speaker 4>maybe twenty five yards.

1056
00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:27.159
<v Speaker 3>From me, they let out a big, real long, creaching

1057
00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:30.519
<v Speaker 3>sound like scream, and if you're not prepared for, I

1058
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:31.760
<v Speaker 3>don't know what it is.

1059
00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:33.880
<v Speaker 4>You're going to be running. People wouldn't.

1060
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, I mean Bobcats scream.

1061
00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:40.159
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've never heard one before.

1062
00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:42.079
<v Speaker 2>And it's a nighttime and you hear that, you're like,

1063
00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:43.599
<v Speaker 2>what what is that?

1064
00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:46.800
<v Speaker 1>I've heard them all. Yeah, some of them very close

1065
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:52.239
<v Speaker 1>uh barm pass and ours. I've heard Bobcats like within

1066
00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:55.039
<v Speaker 1>feet from Like I can't that with me. And like

1067
00:52:55.159 --> 00:52:58.400
<v Speaker 1>actually my ex wife many years ago in the same

1068
00:52:58.519 --> 00:53:00.719
<v Speaker 1>National Fourth where I normally do my of my research

1069
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:06.239
<v Speaker 1>and oh my gosh, it put like the raised my

1070
00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:10.039
<v Speaker 1>heart really high in my chest and flooded because it

1071
00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:12.639
<v Speaker 1>was at nighttime and if we were we were tent

1072
00:53:12.760 --> 00:53:15.320
<v Speaker 1>camping in an area where you're not allowed to camp

1073
00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:17.280
<v Speaker 1>at it no more. But you know, they don't want

1074
00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:20.320
<v Speaker 1>people camping in the everything. The college kids trash trashed

1075
00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:26.960
<v Speaker 1>the area. But anyway, long story short, I've uh talked

1076
00:53:27.079 --> 00:53:30.719
<v Speaker 1>going back to this whole recording I've listened to. I

1077
00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:35.880
<v Speaker 1>was like, I found this recording of bartiles recorded recorded

1078
00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:40.400
<v Speaker 1>in an enclosure, and when I when I listened to

1079
00:53:41.000 --> 00:53:45.280
<v Speaker 1>these sounds, I was like, dude, I said, these are

1080
00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:47.960
<v Speaker 1>somebody recorded the same sounds and tried to say it

1081
00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:52.920
<v Speaker 1>wasn't wasn't ants. So I shared it. I actually put

1082
00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:54.960
<v Speaker 1>it on my YouTube channel and then I shared it

1083
00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:58.679
<v Speaker 1>into this group. You know, it's like, listen to these bardiles,

1084
00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:02.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, blah blah blah, same identical sounds. I was like,

1085
00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:05.320
<v Speaker 1>I got records of I got recordings, so I'll on

1086
00:54:05.360 --> 00:54:08.320
<v Speaker 1>my SoundCloud account so you could hear the hoots and

1087
00:54:08.360 --> 00:54:12.880
<v Speaker 1>whatever various sounds. But yes, Bardas will make some really

1088
00:54:12.920 --> 00:54:16.920
<v Speaker 1>crazy sounds. Bartile is one of the very few species

1089
00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:19.000
<v Speaker 1>that will mimic well not it's just a mintic, but

1090
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:20.559
<v Speaker 1>will sound like friddings.

1091
00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:23.440
<v Speaker 2>So yes, that's.

1092
00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Exactly what I produced. And you know what, everything they

1093
00:54:25.960 --> 00:54:30.000
<v Speaker 1>were all in the original post. I didn't get questions.

1094
00:54:30.679 --> 00:54:33.519
<v Speaker 1>I think I felt like I was the judge slamming

1095
00:54:33.599 --> 00:54:37.960
<v Speaker 1>his whatever you call the galbl gabble yes, thank you,

1096
00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:40.880
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I rest my case. I didn't

1097
00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:42.719
<v Speaker 1>say none, I just put I just posted it and

1098
00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:46.280
<v Speaker 1>showed it, and then they've listened to it. I didn't

1099
00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:48.239
<v Speaker 1>have to say no more. I rest my case.

1100
00:54:48.679 --> 00:54:51.119
<v Speaker 2>So here's the question, maybe one of you three can

1101
00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:53.480
<v Speaker 2>answer it. But where did the whole thing of big

1102
00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Foot mimicking people come from? Originally? Because I've spoken to

1103
00:54:57.360 --> 00:55:01.320
<v Speaker 2>indigenous people of all tribes across the United See, none

1104
00:55:01.360 --> 00:55:04.320
<v Speaker 2>of them talk to them mimicking their people. So I'm

1105
00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:09.880
<v Speaker 2>wondering where did.

1106
00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:11.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's funny that you bring it up, because that's

1107
00:55:11.159 --> 00:55:17.440
<v Speaker 1>a very common trait among primates, primate semitting. But but

1108
00:55:17.519 --> 00:55:20.400
<v Speaker 1>then again, people say, well, Bigfoot's note of primate, but

1109
00:55:20.519 --> 00:55:23.800
<v Speaker 1>yet he minted. It's a very common behavior and trait

1110
00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:26.800
<v Speaker 1>among known speeches of primates. They will mind it other

1111
00:55:26.880 --> 00:55:33.000
<v Speaker 1>animation there exactly. So it's funny. I'm glad you know.

1112
00:55:33.079 --> 00:55:36.239
<v Speaker 1>And I don't try to push I do, but I don't.

1113
00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:39.119
<v Speaker 1>I try to share strongly of my opinion and my

1114
00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:43.159
<v Speaker 1>conclusion on big Fill because everything I find, and you know,

1115
00:55:44.039 --> 00:55:46.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't try Ryan, I don't try to come across

1116
00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:48.199
<v Speaker 1>as I know at all. I swear I really do.

1117
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:52.280
<v Speaker 1>But with my research and the things I keep coming

1118
00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:54.320
<v Speaker 1>up with from the time I got involved with this,

1119
00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:59.599
<v Speaker 1>even up to today, everything I experienced myself, or what

1120
00:55:59.719 --> 00:56:03.800
<v Speaker 1>people are producing and what people are sharing, I feel like,

1121
00:56:03.920 --> 00:56:06.599
<v Speaker 1>honestly everything supports more of what I'm looking at and

1122
00:56:06.599 --> 00:56:09.639
<v Speaker 1>more of what I'm believing Bigfoot just to be. I mean,

1123
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:12.239
<v Speaker 1>I know we can't prove it right now, but there's

1124
00:56:12.280 --> 00:56:14.760
<v Speaker 1>more and more evidence people they I don't know. I

1125
00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:17.320
<v Speaker 1>don't understand how people look at evidence that they're really

1126
00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:21.840
<v Speaker 1>paying attention, but more and more it's pointed towards them

1127
00:56:21.880 --> 00:56:26.440
<v Speaker 1>being a type of primate. Yes, I mean, I'm not

1128
00:56:26.440 --> 00:56:28.320
<v Speaker 1>saying big for the groller. I'm not saying big for

1129
00:56:28.440 --> 00:56:31.320
<v Speaker 1>the chimpanzee or a ring tank. I mean, I just

1130
00:56:31.360 --> 00:56:34.480
<v Speaker 1>believe he's his own type of species, of his own

1131
00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:36.320
<v Speaker 1>kind that we don't know.

1132
00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:39.480
<v Speaker 2>There's an overlap there. I think that people when you

1133
00:56:39.519 --> 00:56:43.480
<v Speaker 2>say the word primate, they instantly think monkey, but exactly

1134
00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:48.760
<v Speaker 2>could include human. If we meant specifically monkey, we'd say simeon.

1135
00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:52.199
<v Speaker 2>You know, if we were saying rhyme, then you can

1136
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:54.199
<v Speaker 2>get mad at us we're calling the monkey's But if

1137
00:56:54.199 --> 00:56:56.159
<v Speaker 2>we're saying primate, they could be a type of human

1138
00:56:56.159 --> 00:56:59.639
<v Speaker 2>for all you know, you know, so so.

1139
00:56:59.719 --> 00:57:02.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one of my when I when I go speaking engagements,

1140
00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:04.480
<v Speaker 1>one of the things I like to share that's in

1141
00:57:04.519 --> 00:57:08.679
<v Speaker 1>my uh regardless, I switched my presentations on so often,

1142
00:57:08.719 --> 00:57:10.679
<v Speaker 1>but one of the main things I always add in there.

1143
00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:13.199
<v Speaker 1>It's a simple thing when I show up a non

1144
00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:17.719
<v Speaker 1>human and a human finger, because you know, I go

1145
00:57:17.800 --> 00:57:20.320
<v Speaker 1>to explain that, hey, look, there's only two species in

1146
00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:24.119
<v Speaker 1>this entire world that have what we have, and it

1147
00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:25.840
<v Speaker 1>shows dermal ridges.

1148
00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Human right, and we all think, uh, people lean heavily

1149
00:57:33.360 --> 00:57:36.360
<v Speaker 2>into is when they talk about the indigenous Bigfoot. How

1150
00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:39.199
<v Speaker 2>you know Bigfoot is seen as a spiritual being. I

1151
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:40.920
<v Speaker 2>think what we have to keep in mind though, is

1152
00:57:40.960 --> 00:57:43.960
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people are taking oral traditions that seem

1153
00:57:44.039 --> 00:57:47.400
<v Speaker 2>like Bigfoot and saying that they absolutely are Bigfoot without

1154
00:57:47.400 --> 00:57:49.800
<v Speaker 2>looking into the details. And they also have to keep

1155
00:57:49.800 --> 00:57:52.840
<v Speaker 2>in mind that sure, in some stories Bigfoot is seen

1156
00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:57.000
<v Speaker 2>as spiritual, but in some stories, so we're owls and buffalo.

1157
00:57:56.920 --> 00:57:59.920
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, exactly right.

1158
00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:02.559
<v Speaker 2>You know, you can't just say, oh, well Bigfoot is

1159
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:05.599
<v Speaker 2>one hundred spiritual because they said so. No, you got

1160
00:58:05.679 --> 00:58:07.840
<v Speaker 2>to look at their other stories and see what else

1161
00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:10.800
<v Speaker 2>they considered spiritual and kind of take it from there.

1162
00:58:11.559 --> 00:58:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Right and one. You know, it's funny. I'm glad you

1163
00:58:14.039 --> 00:58:17.239
<v Speaker 1>brought that up. I'm sure if we had. I don't

1164
00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:18.760
<v Speaker 1>know if Ryan, I don't know if you know him,

1165
00:58:18.800 --> 00:58:21.559
<v Speaker 1>but William Knighthawk's my brother.

1166
00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:24.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I'm sure.

1167
00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:27.679
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I love him. He's very knowledgeable. Hey, with

1168
00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:29.960
<v Speaker 1>what you just said, I honestly believe that he would

1169
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:33.880
<v Speaker 1>agree with you. So, because that's the way a lot

1170
00:58:33.880 --> 00:58:36.519
<v Speaker 1>of us look at stuff like that. Yeah, you're Native American.

1171
00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't care what what tribe you come from. Yeah,

1172
00:58:41.559 --> 00:58:45.199
<v Speaker 1>Native Americans looking at almost every any rush of blood

1173
00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:49.760
<v Speaker 1>as a spiritual being. Yes, they talk about the spirit

1174
00:58:49.800 --> 00:58:52.039
<v Speaker 1>of the eagle, the spirit of the deal, the spirit

1175
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:54.639
<v Speaker 1>of a wolf. You know, every species has a spirit.

1176
00:58:55.079 --> 00:58:55.880
<v Speaker 1>You know.

1177
00:58:56.760 --> 00:58:58.920
<v Speaker 2>You have to look into the details, though, and actually

1178
00:58:58.920 --> 00:59:02.000
<v Speaker 2>pay attention to their traditions to see what they mean

1179
00:59:02.239 --> 00:59:05.039
<v Speaker 2>by spiritual, because they have different definitions of spiritual.

1180
00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:05.719
<v Speaker 4>You know.

1181
00:59:05.840 --> 00:59:08.800
<v Speaker 2>So Bigfoot they sometimes say that he was a gift

1182
00:59:08.840 --> 00:59:11.320
<v Speaker 2>from the Creator, but they're not saying that he's, you know,

1183
00:59:11.480 --> 00:59:14.840
<v Speaker 2>from a different world. They're saying that their creator, their God,

1184
00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:18.400
<v Speaker 2>put him down here to live alongside us. You really

1185
00:59:18.400 --> 00:59:20.519
<v Speaker 2>have to look into the details. You can't just skip

1186
00:59:20.519 --> 00:59:22.760
<v Speaker 2>over the details and cherry pick what you want. That's

1187
00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:23.599
<v Speaker 2>not how it works.

1188
00:59:24.199 --> 00:59:26.639
<v Speaker 1>That's right exactly, And I think a lot and a

1189
00:59:26.639 --> 00:59:33.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of individuals do that without Yes, you know, you.

1190
00:59:33.480 --> 00:59:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Know, William Nighthawk's tribe, the Lakota, in his tribey called

1191
00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:40.639
<v Speaker 2>the Bigfoot that Chaya Tunka, that means big elder brother. Okay, right,

1192
00:59:40.719 --> 00:59:45.280
<v Speaker 2>But they specifically one percent spiritual, and William will tell

1193
00:59:45.280 --> 00:59:48.519
<v Speaker 2>you that they're here, they're in our glorus, you know,

1194
00:59:48.559 --> 00:59:51.480
<v Speaker 2>they live on our lands. But they're spiritual in the

1195
00:59:51.519 --> 00:59:53.360
<v Speaker 2>sense that they have a higher purpose. That they're not

1196
00:59:53.480 --> 00:59:56.480
<v Speaker 2>just here as animals. They're here to live alongside humans.

1197
00:59:56.480 --> 00:59:59.519
<v Speaker 2>We're supposed to coexist with them and respect them. Doesn't

1198
00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:02.599
<v Speaker 2>mean that they're run to God they have these supernatural abilities,

1199
01:00:02.679 --> 01:00:04.480
<v Speaker 2>or that they can cloak, or that they're one hundred

1200
01:00:04.519 --> 01:00:06.920
<v Speaker 2>times stronger than us, you know, And that's the stuff

1201
01:00:06.920 --> 01:00:08.760
<v Speaker 2>I've been dissecting for many years now.

1202
01:00:09.960 --> 01:00:16.079
<v Speaker 1>Right. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, I really hope that, I really

1203
01:00:16.079 --> 01:00:20.920
<v Speaker 1>hope William's health is uh, you know, up there, because

1204
01:00:20.960 --> 01:00:22.519
<v Speaker 1>I would love to have him come out to our

1205
01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:23.360
<v Speaker 1>camp out in May.

1206
01:00:23.679 --> 01:00:31.159
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, but I don't plan on him. The last

1207
01:00:31.159 --> 01:00:33.360
<v Speaker 3>time we talked to him. I don't know if you've heard, Daniel,

1208
01:00:33.400 --> 01:00:35.760
<v Speaker 3>but when you had the last check up, well, he

1209
01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:38.599
<v Speaker 3>was telling us that they found another spot.

1210
01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:39.840
<v Speaker 4>Is long I believe?

1211
01:00:40.360 --> 01:00:40.599
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

1212
01:00:40.760 --> 01:00:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I did not know about that.

1213
01:00:43.639 --> 01:00:44.679
<v Speaker 4>Another cancer?

1214
01:00:45.159 --> 01:00:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, wow.

1215
01:00:47.559 --> 01:00:47.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1216
01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:50.480
<v Speaker 2>He's my adopted brother. He adopted me as his little brother,

1217
01:00:50.599 --> 01:00:51.239
<v Speaker 2>so we're family.

1218
01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:54.000
<v Speaker 1>That's all he just say.

1219
01:00:54.039 --> 01:00:58.039
<v Speaker 4>Is right up the road from us. Yeah yeah.

1220
01:00:59.119 --> 01:01:01.719
<v Speaker 2>I co hosted show with them every Wednesday night.

1221
01:01:02.880 --> 01:01:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, I didn't know that.

1222
01:01:04.519 --> 01:01:07.920
<v Speaker 4>I didn't know midnight you do the midnight.

1223
01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:13.119
<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep, I sure do ye every other.

1224
01:01:16.480 --> 01:01:20.719
<v Speaker 3>The other day having to know, well, yeah, well we

1225
01:01:20.800 --> 01:01:23.440
<v Speaker 3>got to work, I mean ten o'clock at night here

1226
01:01:23.480 --> 01:01:26.079
<v Speaker 3>and stuff and then two hours of podcast and getting

1227
01:01:26.119 --> 01:01:27.519
<v Speaker 3>up at three that don't work?

1228
01:01:29.320 --> 01:01:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Were one of you in the chatter?

1229
01:01:30.960 --> 01:01:32.719
<v Speaker 2>I remember somebody saying they had to go to bed.

1230
01:01:34.360 --> 01:01:36.400
<v Speaker 4>Well that was me one night. I mean there might

1231
01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:37.280
<v Speaker 4>be others two.

1232
01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:39.360
<v Speaker 2>But okay, so yeah that was you, all right?

1233
01:01:41.039 --> 01:01:43.840
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, see I wouldn't mind joining one though, is

1234
01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:47.159
<v Speaker 1>like the only way I can do it, Like it

1235
01:01:47.239 --> 01:01:49.280
<v Speaker 1>would have to be on a Saturday night now, or

1236
01:01:49.880 --> 01:01:52.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, because I start a new job on Monday,

1237
01:01:52.239 --> 01:01:54.559
<v Speaker 1>so I mean I started at seven am, I get

1238
01:01:54.599 --> 01:01:58.599
<v Speaker 1>off at three pm. But you know again, I have my.

1239
01:01:58.559 --> 01:02:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Own show that I do on Friday nights. So uh

1240
01:02:03.519 --> 01:02:04.800
<v Speaker 2>oh you hit all right?

1241
01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:10.519
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well what time does that start?

1242
01:02:10.760 --> 01:02:13.199
<v Speaker 2>I usually do it about five thirty maybe six thirty

1243
01:02:13.199 --> 01:02:15.039
<v Speaker 2>in the evening, and we go for about an hour

1244
01:02:15.159 --> 01:02:16.119
<v Speaker 2>hour and a half, depending on.

1245
01:02:16.119 --> 01:02:22.199
<v Speaker 1>How long the guests. Say, So that's five o'clock your time, yes, okay,

1246
01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:23.760
<v Speaker 1>so that'd be about to say, yeah, seven in our

1247
01:02:23.840 --> 01:02:24.440
<v Speaker 1>time over here.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, yeah, So if you ever belong as a guest, Daniel,

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01:02:27.960 --> 01:02:28.960
<v Speaker 2>you're more than welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. I just to make sure my grandson usual goes

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01:02:33.719 --> 01:02:36.519
<v Speaker 1>to bed around eight, so I'll just convinced my parents

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01:02:36.519 --> 01:02:39.119
<v Speaker 1>to watch. You're like, hey, I'm going on a show.

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01:02:39.400 --> 01:02:43.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm out of here. I'll be in the garage by man.

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<v Speaker 2>If you ever want to schedule it for after he

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01:02:45.239 --> 01:02:47.360
<v Speaker 2>goes to bed, I am more than willing and capable

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01:02:47.360 --> 01:02:49.519
<v Speaker 2>of doing that. So you just give me the word

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01:02:49.559 --> 01:02:50.920
<v Speaker 2>and we'll have it at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I mean yeah, yeah, I'll figure something out. Yeah,

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01:02:55.119 --> 01:02:57.239
<v Speaker 1>like I said, yeah, as long as I don't have

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01:02:57.280 --> 01:02:58.840
<v Speaker 1>to get up early in the morning the next day.

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01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:01.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I get up early every day we got

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01:03:01.159 --> 01:03:02.679
<v Speaker 1>us if I'm working or not because of him, but

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01:03:05.199 --> 01:03:05.880
<v Speaker 1>school of the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've got a question for you guys, and I

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01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:09.960
<v Speaker 2>want to see how you guys honestly feel about this.

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<v Speaker 2>So that it's a popular topic, the Indigenous Bigfoot, But

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<v Speaker 2>do you believe that the Indigenous people actually had encounters

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01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:20.280
<v Speaker 2>with Bigfoot? Or do you think it's all false because

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01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:23.199
<v Speaker 2>there's somebody out there who made a video saying that no, no, no, no,

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01:03:23.360 --> 01:03:25.880
<v Speaker 2>the tribes had nothing to do with Bigfoot. But then

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<v Speaker 2>I spoke to people in Canada from the Turtle Island tribe.

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01:03:29.239 --> 01:03:32.280
<v Speaker 2>All right, they're Ojibwe, And when I asked them straight up,

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01:03:32.320 --> 01:03:35.400
<v Speaker 2>you know if your people really have encounters with Bigfoot,

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01:03:35.679 --> 01:03:39.280
<v Speaker 2>they literally left. They're like, yes, it's called the Kicha Sabe.

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01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:43.239
<v Speaker 2>When we talk about our seven grandfather laws, he's in there.

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01:03:43.559 --> 01:03:46.519
<v Speaker 2>So we have had encounters with Bigfoot. So whoever says

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01:03:46.519 --> 01:03:49.840
<v Speaker 2>that we didn't doesn't know what they're talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>Verbal. It's not just a verbal encounters either.

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01:03:53.800 --> 01:03:57.480
<v Speaker 3>From my understanding, are there in the pictographs, stuff like

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01:03:57.559 --> 01:04:03.599
<v Speaker 3>gag Ball back in history of depictions of Bigfoot and tribes.

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01:04:03.239 --> 01:04:03.880
<v Speaker 4>And stuff like that.

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01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:07.639
<v Speaker 3>If I'm not mistaken, Ye, I've seen so much stuff

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01:04:07.679 --> 01:04:08.519
<v Speaker 3>on the TV.

1284
01:04:08.360 --> 01:04:08.920
<v Speaker 4>And the internet.

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01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:11.920
<v Speaker 3>Looking at the stuff sometimes they sometimes all gets intermixed.

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01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:25.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah it does. What about you, Well, I believe they

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01:04:25.239 --> 01:04:26.400
<v Speaker 2>really do see them.

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01:04:26.920 --> 01:04:29.920
<v Speaker 7>I believe they see them in the woods. That's why

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01:04:29.960 --> 01:04:34.679
<v Speaker 7>the woods is so spiritual to them. Yes, William is

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01:04:34.800 --> 01:04:38.800
<v Speaker 7>very spiritual in regards to the woods. I mean, it's

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01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:44.440
<v Speaker 7>very sacred area for him, and he honestly believes that,

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01:04:44.639 --> 01:04:49.079
<v Speaker 7>you know, he has grown up seeing Bigfoot. I believe

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01:04:49.079 --> 01:04:53.320
<v Speaker 7>he's also said that he that his tribe thinks that

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01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:58.440
<v Speaker 7>Bigfoot is also has the skin walker capabilities and the

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01:04:58.559 --> 01:04:59.960
<v Speaker 7>interdimensional traveling.

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01:05:01.639 --> 01:05:03.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, he's bringing up different aspects of that, but he

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01:05:03.960 --> 01:05:07.800
<v Speaker 3>does tell a story about uh uh, his people will

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01:05:07.840 --> 01:05:11.159
<v Speaker 3>go to people you know a lot. A long time ago,

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01:05:11.199 --> 01:05:14.199
<v Speaker 3>I actually had physical encounters death in.

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01:05:14.239 --> 01:05:19.960
<v Speaker 4>The tribe of the Native American boy. What's that that cha?

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01:05:20.559 --> 01:05:22.159
<v Speaker 2>That's what call him?

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01:05:22.559 --> 01:05:23.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? And uh.

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01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:28.320
<v Speaker 3>And then after that accidental death of a uh, the

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01:05:28.400 --> 01:05:34.400
<v Speaker 3>Native American boy, Uh, the interaction ceased after that, And

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01:05:34.800 --> 01:05:38.599
<v Speaker 3>as William tells, it's because I guess the uh, the

1306
01:05:38.639 --> 01:05:41.159
<v Speaker 3>Bigfoot tribe or whatever you want to call him at

1307
01:05:41.159 --> 01:05:45.400
<v Speaker 3>that time, felt bad about it and way stuff like that,

1308
01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:49.960
<v Speaker 3>since there was that involved that they broke away from that,

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01:05:50.159 --> 01:05:54.239
<v Speaker 3>the physical type of contact. Yes, William would have to

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01:05:54.239 --> 01:05:56.320
<v Speaker 3>elaborate more on that for more detail, but I do

1311
01:05:56.400 --> 01:05:58.639
<v Speaker 3>remember telling that story several times when he had his

1312
01:05:58.760 --> 01:05:59.760
<v Speaker 3>podcasts and stuff.

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01:06:00.599 --> 01:06:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes. Yeah, so you know, almost every North American, just

1314
01:06:07.440 --> 01:06:10.519
<v Speaker 1>just in North America alone, not not to mention other

1315
01:06:10.519 --> 01:06:15.719
<v Speaker 1>cultures and countries, but in almost every North American legend

1316
01:06:16.039 --> 01:06:19.760
<v Speaker 1>of Native American legend, there tends to be some type

1317
01:06:19.760 --> 01:06:27.000
<v Speaker 1>of legend of folklore relating or contributed to Bigfoot or sasquatched. Now,

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01:06:27.039 --> 01:06:30.719
<v Speaker 1>would that being said, once I learned of on my

1319
01:06:30.840 --> 01:06:33.000
<v Speaker 1>father's side of the family, from my father's father side

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01:06:33.039 --> 01:06:35.840
<v Speaker 1>of the family, uh, or you know the Canadian French

1321
01:06:36.320 --> 01:06:41.360
<v Speaker 1>the Benois family. Yeah, my dad's side of the family. Uh.

1322
01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:44.199
<v Speaker 1>You know, we have what you call there's two different

1323
01:06:44.480 --> 01:06:48.679
<v Speaker 1>two different tribes that uh. One is known as the Knickknack,

1324
01:06:49.159 --> 01:06:54.199
<v Speaker 1>which they originally uh they originally were based out of

1325
01:06:54.320 --> 01:06:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Nova Scotia, came down later, I mean sometimes it came

1326
01:06:59.440 --> 01:07:02.800
<v Speaker 1>settled into other parts of Canada and then settled in

1327
01:07:02.840 --> 01:07:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Their last remanding settlement was in parts of Maine.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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01:07:07.840 --> 01:07:11.599
<v Speaker 1>Once that was the first one I learned about, you know. Uh,

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01:07:11.719 --> 01:07:14.039
<v Speaker 1>And before I learned about that, we had Airqois in

1331
01:07:14.360 --> 01:07:18.800
<v Speaker 1>the bloodline. But the nick back alone from what I've

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01:07:18.840 --> 01:07:21.679
<v Speaker 1>researched again, because when I learned about this, I was like, oh,

1333
01:07:21.880 --> 01:07:23.880
<v Speaker 1>this is cool. I want to know, do they have

1334
01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:27.920
<v Speaker 1>the big foot legends? So sure enough, I did some

1335
01:07:27.960 --> 01:07:31.880
<v Speaker 1>research and I did some reading the Mickmack legends they

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01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:35.400
<v Speaker 1>have what there was several names and I'm sure a

1337
01:07:35.400 --> 01:07:37.079
<v Speaker 1>lot of you guys are probably familiar with this because

1338
01:07:37.079 --> 01:07:40.320
<v Speaker 1>I've heard other people mention this. But these names were

1339
01:07:40.360 --> 01:07:43.800
<v Speaker 1>mentioned only in north on the northeastern Chores and up

1340
01:07:43.840 --> 01:07:47.800
<v Speaker 1>in Canada. But there was just the name. Eventually you

1341
01:07:47.880 --> 01:07:52.000
<v Speaker 1>got the Googway uh for, And there was other names

1342
01:07:52.840 --> 01:07:57.320
<v Speaker 1>and the legend talks about it was related to a large, giant,

1343
01:07:57.599 --> 01:08:02.800
<v Speaker 1>hairy female that was that used to kidnap children and

1344
01:08:03.360 --> 01:08:08.000
<v Speaker 1>some of the folklore related to cannibalistic harry beings. So,

1345
01:08:09.840 --> 01:08:12.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, so just to make a name of a

1346
01:08:12.480 --> 01:08:17.840
<v Speaker 1>man couple, uh Again, a lot of these, you know,

1347
01:08:17.960 --> 01:08:22.119
<v Speaker 1>a lot of folklore tends to originate from something. You know.

1348
01:08:23.159 --> 01:08:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Some blody brought that up though, Daniel, because I kind

1349
01:08:25.640 --> 01:08:28.840
<v Speaker 2>of take issue with people pushing around the name gug

1350
01:08:28.880 --> 01:08:31.319
<v Speaker 2>Wey because the Micmac, the name for the gug we

1351
01:08:31.479 --> 01:08:36.319
<v Speaker 2>originally was kuk Wes. Okay, you said was a tall

1352
01:08:36.359 --> 01:08:38.880
<v Speaker 2>woman that had a basket on her back, similar.

1353
01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:38.840
<v Speaker 1>To the z.

1354
01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:44.760
<v Speaker 2>But my problem is, though, is in there the Micmac traditions,

1355
01:08:44.800 --> 01:08:47.439
<v Speaker 2>they describe her as being taller than the highest pine trees,

1356
01:08:47.760 --> 01:08:50.000
<v Speaker 2>and they say she's always female. So we took the

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01:08:50.079 --> 01:08:53.039
<v Speaker 2>name kouk Wes and we kind of americanized it a bit,

1358
01:08:53.079 --> 01:08:55.840
<v Speaker 2>I guess we it's Anglo Saxon now and it's gug Wey.

1359
01:08:56.399 --> 01:08:59.319
<v Speaker 2>But are we really following the actual depiction that the

1360
01:08:59.359 --> 01:09:02.439
<v Speaker 2>mcmac you use when we see these things, or.

1361
01:09:02.399 --> 01:09:03.399
<v Speaker 1>Do we just take the name?

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01:09:03.760 --> 01:09:03.960
<v Speaker 4>You know?

1363
01:09:04.000 --> 01:09:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Because for the modern day people, the Guguy are the

1364
01:09:07.640 --> 01:09:11.319
<v Speaker 2>mandrel or baboon faced bigfoot that are really aggressive. They're

1365
01:09:11.359 --> 01:09:14.039
<v Speaker 2>known to kill people. But that doesn't line up with

1366
01:09:14.119 --> 01:09:16.920
<v Speaker 2>the nick mca believe right exactly?

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01:09:17.319 --> 01:09:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Uh, there were there were other names used. I can't

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01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:21.039
<v Speaker 1>think of him right off the top of my head.

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01:09:21.079 --> 01:09:23.199
<v Speaker 1>I have all this I've done studies on all this,

1370
01:09:23.359 --> 01:09:26.039
<v Speaker 1>but it's been a long time since I've really looked

1371
01:09:26.039 --> 01:09:28.600
<v Speaker 1>into it and brought it up. But there are other

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01:09:28.720 --> 01:09:30.760
<v Speaker 1>names besides the boog Googway is the one I can

1373
01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:34.960
<v Speaker 1>remember the most, but there are other right, well, air

1374
01:09:35.039 --> 01:09:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Quois with the other one that I learned about later,

1375
01:09:38.319 --> 01:09:40.319
<v Speaker 1>But the nick Mac is the one. When I looked

1376
01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:43.000
<v Speaker 1>into the folklore of their big boot legend of folklore,

1377
01:09:44.199 --> 01:09:47.279
<v Speaker 1>Googleway was one of the names I recall reading.

1378
01:09:47.640 --> 01:09:50.720
<v Speaker 2>So yes, well, the Iqois. The name for bigfoot from

1379
01:09:50.720 --> 01:09:52.159
<v Speaker 2>the Iroquois is Jenoskua.

1380
01:09:53.359 --> 01:09:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, the genska the stone giant, right, yes, yes,

1381
01:09:57.880 --> 01:10:00.520
<v Speaker 1>and yes, come on from that.

1382
01:10:00.520 --> 01:10:03.119
<v Speaker 2>That didn't come just from the Native Americans. There was

1383
01:10:03.159 --> 01:10:06.520
<v Speaker 2>a father and son duo that came from England. They

1384
01:10:06.520 --> 01:10:08.680
<v Speaker 2>wanted to go on a hunting trip in Canada, so

1385
01:10:08.720 --> 01:10:11.119
<v Speaker 2>they hired an Iroquois hunting guide who took them to

1386
01:10:11.159 --> 01:10:14.680
<v Speaker 2>a very good spot where they could kill deer, moose, bear.

1387
01:10:15.079 --> 01:10:18.199
<v Speaker 2>But there was an island outside of that area that

1388
01:10:18.239 --> 01:10:20.600
<v Speaker 2>he took him to, and he told him, whatever you do,

1389
01:10:20.600 --> 01:10:24.079
<v Speaker 2>don't go there. That's the genosquad's domain. Don't ever know.

1390
01:10:24.720 --> 01:10:26.600
<v Speaker 2>And so you know, they they pretended they were going

1391
01:10:26.680 --> 01:10:29.119
<v Speaker 2>to listen to him, and one early morning, the son

1392
01:10:29.159 --> 01:10:31.960
<v Speaker 2>got a wild hair crosses butt and started rowing the

1393
01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:34.840
<v Speaker 2>canoe over to that island. And they caught him too late,

1394
01:10:34.920 --> 01:10:37.039
<v Speaker 2>so they're telling him, come back, come back, don't go there.

1395
01:10:37.119 --> 01:10:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Genosqua's there, and he just kept going anyway. So he

1396
01:10:40.119 --> 01:10:42.680
<v Speaker 2>made landfall and he made his way up this hill.

1397
01:10:43.079 --> 01:10:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Within maybe like five minutes, they saw him running down

1398
01:10:46.159 --> 01:10:48.840
<v Speaker 2>a Genosqua was chasing after him. He caught the kid

1399
01:10:49.079 --> 01:10:50.640
<v Speaker 2>and he actually ripped him in half, right in front

1400
01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:53.399
<v Speaker 2>of the father and the hunting guy. Oh my god,

1401
01:10:54.119 --> 01:10:55.880
<v Speaker 2>that's why they say don't mess with genos squad.

1402
01:10:57.520 --> 01:11:00.479
<v Speaker 1>Wow. And that story there when you that was based

1403
01:11:00.520 --> 01:11:01.319
<v Speaker 1>off of a true event.

1404
01:11:01.960 --> 01:11:04.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it happened in eighteen seventy nine. Whither actually wrote

1405
01:11:04.720 --> 01:11:05.680
<v Speaker 2>it down in his diary.

1406
01:11:06.600 --> 01:11:13.840
<v Speaker 1>M wow, mm hmm wow. Just out of curiosity, I've

1407
01:11:13.880 --> 01:11:19.239
<v Speaker 1>done some research on the oldest what's the oldest Bigfoot

1408
01:11:19.800 --> 01:11:23.439
<v Speaker 1>type legends of stories that you are familiar with? Well

1409
01:11:23.479 --> 01:11:28.199
<v Speaker 1>before before we get into that, I mean, well kind of, well,

1410
01:11:29.199 --> 01:11:31.760
<v Speaker 1>what's your take, Like, I don't know if Melissa and

1411
01:11:31.800 --> 01:11:35.079
<v Speaker 1>David bread it into this. I mean, there's limited information

1412
01:11:36.199 --> 01:11:39.279
<v Speaker 1>on this, But I've done some research. When I learned

1413
01:11:39.279 --> 01:11:43.279
<v Speaker 1>about leif ericson from nine hundred I believe it was

1414
01:11:44.479 --> 01:11:51.079
<v Speaker 1>eighty nine and eighty six AD. Yeah, only here on

1415
01:11:51.119 --> 01:11:54.479
<v Speaker 1>the shores of North America. They claim to have seen

1416
01:11:54.760 --> 01:12:01.640
<v Speaker 1>these large, savage and looking harry smelly creatures. I mean,

1417
01:12:01.800 --> 01:12:03.760
<v Speaker 1>what's your take on that. Are you familiar with that?

1418
01:12:03.880 --> 01:12:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Or yeah?

1419
01:12:04.560 --> 01:12:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I mean I've heard the story of Genghis Khan.

1420
01:12:07.279 --> 01:12:09.399
<v Speaker 2>Did you ever hear about him when he was trying

1421
01:12:09.439 --> 01:12:11.720
<v Speaker 2>to do his little conquering trip how when he hit

1422
01:12:11.720 --> 01:12:15.439
<v Speaker 2>theas he and his Oh I'm not familiar with that, okay.

1423
01:12:15.439 --> 01:12:18.000
<v Speaker 2>So what Genghis Khan said is that they were having

1424
01:12:18.000 --> 01:12:20.800
<v Speaker 2>a successful campaign, that they were conquering people before them.

1425
01:12:21.199 --> 01:12:23.000
<v Speaker 2>They got to the Himalayas and they had to turn

1426
01:12:23.079 --> 01:12:26.279
<v Speaker 2>back because there was giant ape men that were killing

1427
01:12:26.279 --> 01:12:28.960
<v Speaker 2>their horses and killing the men, and so Genghis Khan

1428
01:12:29.279 --> 01:12:32.239
<v Speaker 2>actually issued a retreat because they couldn't conquer these ape men.

1429
01:12:32.640 --> 01:12:35.399
<v Speaker 2>Now that sounds like the Yetti, which would be parallel

1430
01:12:35.439 --> 01:12:36.479
<v Speaker 2>with Bigfoot.

1431
01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I would say, so, yeah, I mean yeah, I mean

1432
01:12:42.439 --> 01:12:45.239
<v Speaker 1>it was back in the early one. Ah man what's

1433
01:12:45.239 --> 01:12:49.039
<v Speaker 1>his name? Who? Who was the gentleman who who organized

1434
01:12:50.560 --> 01:12:53.359
<v Speaker 1>the expeditions for the Yeti that was back in the

1435
01:12:53.479 --> 01:12:56.279
<v Speaker 1>early nineteen forties and fifties.

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01:12:56.800 --> 01:12:59.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I forgot his name, but yeah, I mean even

1437
01:12:59.479 --> 01:13:02.800
<v Speaker 2>today that I have, those footprints haven't been solved. You know,

1438
01:13:02.880 --> 01:13:04.319
<v Speaker 2>nobody knows where they came.

1439
01:13:04.079 --> 01:13:07.880
<v Speaker 1>From, right And there's been several documentaries based off the

1440
01:13:07.880 --> 01:13:13.000
<v Speaker 1>whole Yeti situation even till these days. But yeah, there's

1441
01:13:13.039 --> 01:13:15.079
<v Speaker 1>only right now. All they could really come up with

1442
01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:17.039
<v Speaker 1>right now is other stories when they meet with the

1443
01:13:17.079 --> 01:13:19.079
<v Speaker 1>locals up there that are willing to speak.

1444
01:13:20.079 --> 01:13:21.800
<v Speaker 2>I've never got the whole thing though, where they say

1445
01:13:21.800 --> 01:13:23.880
<v Speaker 2>that Yeti is nothing more than a bear. They're not

1446
01:13:23.920 --> 01:13:25.920
<v Speaker 2>even looking at the name Yetti to see what it

1447
01:13:25.960 --> 01:13:29.479
<v Speaker 2>translates to. When you actually look the translation of Yeti,

1448
01:13:29.560 --> 01:13:33.359
<v Speaker 2>it means that thing. Now, the natives, the locals there,

1449
01:13:33.399 --> 01:13:35.600
<v Speaker 2>they're going to know a bear from anything else. They're

1450
01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:38.079
<v Speaker 2>not going to call a bear that thing. They're gonna say, oh,

1451
01:13:38.640 --> 01:13:40.600
<v Speaker 2>take a bear. So if there's something out there that

1452
01:13:40.600 --> 01:13:43.319
<v Speaker 2>they're calling the yetti which means that thing, it's something

1453
01:13:43.319 --> 01:13:46.560
<v Speaker 2>outside of a bear. Okay, people, Oh the Yeti is

1454
01:13:46.560 --> 01:13:47.359
<v Speaker 2>nothing more than a bear.

1455
01:13:47.439 --> 01:13:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I have to scoff yeah. Yeah, Now, there was a

1456
01:13:50.720 --> 01:13:53.640
<v Speaker 1>rare species of bear that existed up in the mountains,

1457
01:13:53.680 --> 01:13:57.119
<v Speaker 1>which was a flat faced bear that was at one

1458
01:13:57.119 --> 01:14:00.840
<v Speaker 1>time used to be extinct. But yeah, they have they

1459
01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:03.239
<v Speaker 1>have shared that there was evidence of it. It's still

1460
01:14:03.239 --> 01:14:07.520
<v Speaker 1>existing off of DNA and whatnot. But you know, so

1461
01:14:07.600 --> 01:14:11.319
<v Speaker 1>that's a whole different story in itself. But yeah, those

1462
01:14:11.479 --> 01:14:13.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't see from basically what they came up with

1463
01:14:13.760 --> 01:14:17.760
<v Speaker 1>the yetty tracks in the snow. I don't see that

1464
01:14:17.880 --> 01:14:23.079
<v Speaker 1>being of a mayor. Yeah, I mean sometimes.

1465
01:14:25.319 --> 01:14:28.039
<v Speaker 2>There's some kind of misconcept with the yetti as well,

1466
01:14:28.079 --> 01:14:31.039
<v Speaker 2>because everybody thinks it's a white bigfoot, but the yetti

1467
01:14:31.159 --> 01:14:33.640
<v Speaker 2>was never described as having white hair. It was always

1468
01:14:33.640 --> 01:14:36.279
<v Speaker 2>described as dark brown, red or even black.

1469
01:14:36.680 --> 01:14:36.840
<v Speaker 4>You know.

1470
01:14:36.840 --> 01:14:39.119
<v Speaker 2>The yetty, the white yetty thing didn't come about until

1471
01:14:39.199 --> 01:14:43.039
<v Speaker 2>Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer, that animation, the puppet animation,

1472
01:14:43.199 --> 01:14:47.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeavy show white popularize. It's not because he really is

1473
01:14:47.680 --> 01:14:50.479
<v Speaker 2>a white fur bigfoot, because that's how he was in

1474
01:14:50.520 --> 01:14:54.079
<v Speaker 2>that show, and people just that's how. But no, same

1475
01:14:54.119 --> 01:14:56.399
<v Speaker 2>colors that we see a bigfoot here is what they

1476
01:14:56.439 --> 01:14:58.039
<v Speaker 2>see with the Yeti over in the Himalayans.

1477
01:14:58.880 --> 01:15:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Right, absolutely, yeah, good, old bumble. What was the name Bumbles? Yeah? Yeah, Ron,

1478
01:15:10.279 --> 01:15:11.079
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty cool.

1479
01:15:11.680 --> 01:15:13.560
<v Speaker 3>Well, Ron, I got a question for you right quick.

1480
01:15:14.840 --> 01:15:17.920
<v Speaker 3>That's a skin of the walker research. Is there any

1481
01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:23.800
<v Speaker 3>one type investigation that you've done that really sticks to

1482
01:15:23.840 --> 01:15:28.479
<v Speaker 3>your mind, that just drives the home to why you're doing.

1483
01:15:28.319 --> 01:15:28.880
<v Speaker 4>What you're doing.

1484
01:15:29.720 --> 01:15:30.039
<v Speaker 1>Yes.

1485
01:15:30.279 --> 01:15:32.880
<v Speaker 2>So one time I took a friend of mine and

1486
01:15:32.920 --> 01:15:35.359
<v Speaker 2>he's a skeptic about everything. Okay, he doesn't believe in

1487
01:15:35.399 --> 01:15:38.039
<v Speaker 2>goes cufos anything like that. So when I told him

1488
01:15:38.079 --> 01:15:40.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go look into a e auchi, he

1489
01:15:40.199 --> 01:15:42.560
<v Speaker 2>was kind of having a laugh, you know. But on

1490
01:15:42.600 --> 01:15:44.239
<v Speaker 2>the way to this place that we were going, I

1491
01:15:44.239 --> 01:15:47.479
<v Speaker 2>told him, whatever you do, be respectful, Okay, don't make

1492
01:15:47.520 --> 01:15:50.399
<v Speaker 2>fun of the belief in the aluchi, don't mock it,

1493
01:15:50.479 --> 01:15:54.439
<v Speaker 2>don't say anything that's to be offensive. So he agreed, right, But,

1494
01:15:54.600 --> 01:15:57.199
<v Speaker 2>being a typical smart ass that he is, we get

1495
01:15:57.239 --> 01:16:00.960
<v Speaker 2>to this place and he starts saying skinwaks are bs,

1496
01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:04.920
<v Speaker 2>their crap, they're not real. Well, that night we started

1497
01:16:04.920 --> 01:16:08.800
<v Speaker 2>hearing this old woman calling our names. So here I

1498
01:16:08.840 --> 01:16:10.600
<v Speaker 2>am out in the dark and I hear a woman

1499
01:16:10.640 --> 01:16:12.319
<v Speaker 2>going Ryan this way.

1500
01:16:12.560 --> 01:16:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Ryan.

1501
01:16:13.760 --> 01:16:15.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm looking around. There's no one in sight,

1502
01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:18.800
<v Speaker 2>I can't see anybody. Then we hear someone calling his name,

1503
01:16:19.640 --> 01:16:21.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, so right there, I was like, see.

1504
01:16:21.239 --> 01:16:22.800
<v Speaker 1>What you did? You offended?

1505
01:16:23.880 --> 01:16:24.479
<v Speaker 4>What's happening?

1506
01:16:27.199 --> 01:16:29.520
<v Speaker 2>So that night I told him, don't you ever do

1507
01:16:29.560 --> 01:16:32.520
<v Speaker 2>that again. Don't you ever ever go on Navajo land

1508
01:16:32.520 --> 01:16:35.119
<v Speaker 2>and disrespect this kind of stuff, because who knows what

1509
01:16:35.159 --> 01:16:37.319
<v Speaker 2>that thing was going to do to us, you know.

1510
01:16:37.359 --> 01:16:39.039
<v Speaker 2>And so I told a Navajole friend of mine. I

1511
01:16:39.079 --> 01:16:40.760
<v Speaker 2>was like, yeah, you know, we were out there looking

1512
01:16:40.800 --> 01:16:43.199
<v Speaker 2>into you know where he suggested we go. I heard

1513
01:16:43.239 --> 01:16:45.520
<v Speaker 2>an old woman calling my name and he looked at me,

1514
01:16:45.520 --> 01:16:48.119
<v Speaker 2>deading the eyes. Daniel, He goes, Ryan, there is no

1515
01:16:48.159 --> 01:16:50.760
<v Speaker 2>woman out there. It was just you and your friend.

1516
01:16:50.800 --> 01:16:53.479
<v Speaker 2>At first what you heard wasn't just a woman, that

1517
01:16:53.560 --> 01:16:55.000
<v Speaker 2>was a you know, to do she calling your name?

1518
01:16:56.119 --> 01:16:56.239
<v Speaker 4>Hm?

1519
01:16:56.319 --> 01:17:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Hm? You know by that name you're mentioned, is that

1520
01:17:01.039 --> 01:17:02.600
<v Speaker 1>what you would refer to as skinwalker?

1521
01:17:03.079 --> 01:17:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? You not a lucchi In the Navajo language, that's

1522
01:17:06.640 --> 01:17:08.760
<v Speaker 2>what they call the skinwalkers. And the name you not

1523
01:17:08.840 --> 01:17:12.359
<v Speaker 2>a lui translated into English means by means of it

1524
01:17:12.560 --> 01:17:15.479
<v Speaker 2>on all fours. He goes, Okay, they call him that

1525
01:17:15.840 --> 01:17:18.640
<v Speaker 2>because they'll don the pelt of like a coyote or

1526
01:17:18.680 --> 01:17:21.960
<v Speaker 2>a bear or a mountain lion, and they'll assume the

1527
01:17:22.000 --> 01:17:24.800
<v Speaker 2>shape of these animals. So when they say, you know,

1528
01:17:24.880 --> 01:17:27.239
<v Speaker 2>you're not a lushi, it does translate to by means

1529
01:17:27.239 --> 01:17:30.560
<v Speaker 2>of it, on all fours, he goes. Skinwalker kind of

1530
01:17:30.600 --> 01:17:34.439
<v Speaker 2>came from. I can't really pinpoint where that term began.

1531
01:17:34.720 --> 01:17:38.119
<v Speaker 2>I think it kind of started with the reptilians, the aliens,

1532
01:17:38.159 --> 01:17:40.199
<v Speaker 2>and maybe even shows like v kind of started the

1533
01:17:40.199 --> 01:17:44.520
<v Speaker 2>whole popular skinwalker terminology. But the Navajo referred to them

1534
01:17:44.520 --> 01:17:45.199
<v Speaker 2>as yan.

1535
01:17:45.119 --> 01:17:50.159
<v Speaker 1>A DOUCHI mmm, very interesting.

1536
01:17:50.760 --> 01:17:53.039
<v Speaker 2>It's a scary topic. I know a lot of people think, no,

1537
01:17:53.159 --> 01:17:56.199
<v Speaker 2>it's not possible, they can't exist, and believe me. At first,

1538
01:17:56.239 --> 01:17:58.760
<v Speaker 2>before I really got into it, I would share that

1539
01:17:58.840 --> 01:18:00.800
<v Speaker 2>sentiment and say, yeah, no, it's just it's made up.

1540
01:18:00.800 --> 01:18:04.199
<v Speaker 2>It's a horror story. But after seeing the things I've done,

1541
01:18:04.359 --> 01:18:06.840
<v Speaker 2>and you know, speaking to the people I've spoken to,

1542
01:18:07.560 --> 01:18:10.039
<v Speaker 2>my whole outlook was changed entirely. I do believe the

1543
01:18:10.039 --> 01:18:12.600
<v Speaker 2>e not a lushi are a real thing, and there's

1544
01:18:12.600 --> 01:18:14.520
<v Speaker 2>something you have to be very careful.

1545
01:18:14.159 --> 01:18:20.439
<v Speaker 3>Of, right, is the skinwalker. I thought about this a

1546
01:18:20.520 --> 01:18:24.640
<v Speaker 3>while back watching some of these programs. Is it primarily

1547
01:18:25.399 --> 01:18:30.239
<v Speaker 3>certain Native tribes are associated with it, or it's pretty

1548
01:18:30.279 --> 01:18:32.960
<v Speaker 3>much across the board with any Native American tribe.

1549
01:18:33.479 --> 01:18:36.439
<v Speaker 2>Mostly it's the Navajo the Dn'te that have that. So

1550
01:18:36.560 --> 01:18:39.079
<v Speaker 2>you do have branch offs of the Dnee tribe and

1551
01:18:39.119 --> 01:18:41.800
<v Speaker 2>they all have their own different beliefs in their own

1552
01:18:41.880 --> 01:18:45.119
<v Speaker 2>version of the Alushi. But it changes, you know, like

1553
01:18:45.159 --> 01:18:48.119
<v Speaker 2>for each tribe it's different. Like a Cherokee have what's

1554
01:18:48.199 --> 01:18:50.760
<v Speaker 2>known as the raven macker and that's their form of

1555
01:18:50.800 --> 01:18:51.560
<v Speaker 2>a skin walker.

1556
01:18:52.079 --> 01:18:54.479
<v Speaker 4>Gotcha. Okay, hmm.

1557
01:18:55.560 --> 01:18:59.439
<v Speaker 3>Interesting see the Similars out there with a big threat

1558
01:18:59.439 --> 01:19:01.000
<v Speaker 3>and the skins, and you've.

1559
01:19:00.840 --> 01:19:03.720
<v Speaker 4>Got history and different tribes and cultures and stuff.

1560
01:19:04.279 --> 01:19:08.880
<v Speaker 3>Yes, in my mind, something has to be there or

1561
01:19:09.000 --> 01:19:11.560
<v Speaker 3>have been there for any of this to take shape,

1562
01:19:11.600 --> 01:19:14.960
<v Speaker 3>because I can't see that all these boys just manifesting

1563
01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:17.680
<v Speaker 3>out of nowhere. And yet you've got tried to really

1564
01:19:17.720 --> 01:19:22.039
<v Speaker 3>go intermingle and white man or whatever this stuff as

1565
01:19:22.079 --> 01:19:25.039
<v Speaker 3>far as then you got the people over in India

1566
01:19:25.079 --> 01:19:30.119
<v Speaker 3>and places like that. I mean to me, something has

1567
01:19:30.159 --> 01:19:32.279
<v Speaker 3>to be there. I'm not gonna run full more and

1568
01:19:32.479 --> 01:19:33.479
<v Speaker 3>leave everything I see.

1569
01:19:34.000 --> 01:19:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I agree with you.

1570
01:19:36.800 --> 01:19:38.479
<v Speaker 4>And it gets back into research.

1571
01:19:39.199 --> 01:19:42.239
<v Speaker 3>Eliminate all possibilities before evening to try to come up

1572
01:19:42.279 --> 01:19:46.159
<v Speaker 3>with any kind of truth, right, I think something from

1573
01:19:46.159 --> 01:19:48.800
<v Speaker 3>my experience, it's a little bit of paranormal growing up

1574
01:19:48.800 --> 01:19:50.880
<v Speaker 3>and everything over yours. It's filling to get into right now.

1575
01:19:52.319 --> 01:19:56.159
<v Speaker 3>But that's got me semented and wanting to do this more.

1576
01:19:56.159 --> 01:19:58.239
<v Speaker 3>And then of course we had to meet Daniel about

1577
01:19:58.279 --> 01:19:59.199
<v Speaker 3>five years ago, and.

1578
01:20:02.039 --> 01:20:04.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, I know it's it's a hard pill to

1579
01:20:04.960 --> 01:20:07.479
<v Speaker 2>swallow when you talk about shape shifting humans and everything

1580
01:20:07.560 --> 01:20:10.119
<v Speaker 2>like that. But when I learned the history of why

1581
01:20:10.199 --> 01:20:12.720
<v Speaker 2>they eating ow a doushet came about and how they

1582
01:20:12.760 --> 01:20:14.720
<v Speaker 2>were once you know, a good thing, but then they

1583
01:20:14.760 --> 01:20:17.640
<v Speaker 2>went bad. That's when it kind of solidified my belief that, okay,

1584
01:20:18.079 --> 01:20:20.720
<v Speaker 2>there were people that were sep shifting, you know, because

1585
01:20:20.920 --> 01:20:24.079
<v Speaker 2>the Denayed people, the Navajo, they believe that their creator

1586
01:20:24.359 --> 01:20:26.800
<v Speaker 2>gave them the ability of shape shift as a gift. Okay,

1587
01:20:27.159 --> 01:20:28.840
<v Speaker 2>it was a way for their medicine men to get

1588
01:20:28.920 --> 01:20:31.119
<v Speaker 2>to the sick and the dying quicker, you know, because

1589
01:20:31.119 --> 01:20:32.560
<v Speaker 2>when you're walking on two feet and you got to

1590
01:20:32.560 --> 01:20:34.760
<v Speaker 2>go a great distance, you may not make it in time.

1591
01:20:35.239 --> 01:20:37.560
<v Speaker 2>So their creator said, here, use this gift. You can

1592
01:20:37.600 --> 01:20:39.720
<v Speaker 2>turn into a bird. You can turn into this so

1593
01:20:39.840 --> 01:20:41.359
<v Speaker 2>you can get to where you need to be faster

1594
01:20:41.479 --> 01:20:43.479
<v Speaker 2>to help those in need, you know. So that's how

1595
01:20:43.520 --> 01:20:45.920
<v Speaker 2>it began with the skin walkers. But then the Spaniards

1596
01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:48.720
<v Speaker 2>invaded and they tried to take over the lands from

1597
01:20:48.720 --> 01:20:50.399
<v Speaker 2>the Navajo, and they were you know, they were killing

1598
01:20:50.479 --> 01:20:52.960
<v Speaker 2>them off. And of course, as with any gift, there's

1599
01:20:53.000 --> 01:20:54.039
<v Speaker 2>people that go bad with it.

1600
01:20:54.159 --> 01:20:54.319
<v Speaker 1>You know.

1601
01:20:54.399 --> 01:20:55.920
<v Speaker 2>It's I kind of compare it to the Jedi in

1602
01:20:55.960 --> 01:20:58.039
<v Speaker 2>the Sith. You know, you have all these abilities, but

1603
01:20:58.079 --> 01:20:59.760
<v Speaker 2>then there's always people that want to use them for

1604
01:20:59.840 --> 01:21:04.560
<v Speaker 2>Soelfish reasons. And so these medicine men started realizing, well,

1605
01:21:04.600 --> 01:21:06.800
<v Speaker 2>we can use this gift to battle people, we can

1606
01:21:06.920 --> 01:21:09.600
<v Speaker 2>use it to hurt people. And the other medicine men

1607
01:21:09.640 --> 01:21:11.039
<v Speaker 2>were saying, no, no, no, no, don't do that. It's

1608
01:21:11.079 --> 01:21:14.079
<v Speaker 2>a gift from our creator. They did it anyway, So

1609
01:21:14.479 --> 01:21:16.479
<v Speaker 2>being a shape shifter became a bad thing. It became

1610
01:21:16.600 --> 01:21:19.399
<v Speaker 2>very taboo, and they gave them the name he Alushi

1611
01:21:19.520 --> 01:21:21.720
<v Speaker 2>and they exiled them from their tribe. So if you're

1612
01:21:21.760 --> 01:21:25.119
<v Speaker 2>someone who's practicing the black medicine, the dark medicine, they

1613
01:21:25.159 --> 01:21:27.319
<v Speaker 2>didn't want anything to do with you. You're forbidden. Your

1614
01:21:27.359 --> 01:21:29.479
<v Speaker 2>taboo you know. So when he told me the history

1615
01:21:29.520 --> 01:21:30.800
<v Speaker 2>of this stuff, that's when I was like, well, if

1616
01:21:30.800 --> 01:21:33.000
<v Speaker 2>they have a history like this where it's that intense,

1617
01:21:33.399 --> 01:21:35.960
<v Speaker 2>where it was used against Spaniards and the settlers that

1618
01:21:36.079 --> 01:21:37.880
<v Speaker 2>came in, then there's something to it.

1619
01:21:39.479 --> 01:21:41.960
<v Speaker 3>I had no idea of that aspect. What you just

1620
01:21:42.079 --> 01:21:45.479
<v Speaker 3>brought up as started with the medicine man to do

1621
01:21:45.640 --> 01:21:47.600
<v Speaker 3>good and stuff like that. I had no knowledge to that.

1622
01:21:47.840 --> 01:21:49.920
<v Speaker 4>You just said it. Yeah, I thought I was away

1623
01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:50.479
<v Speaker 4>something bad.

1624
01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:54.439
<v Speaker 3>For my understand if what I've seen it picked up,

1625
01:21:54.520 --> 01:21:57.039
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was always just a bad uh skin

1626
01:21:57.199 --> 01:21:59.399
<v Speaker 3>walk or spirit out there just doing bad things.

1627
01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:02.439
<v Speaker 2>So that's what that's what they start out as. Is

1628
01:22:02.520 --> 01:22:05.479
<v Speaker 2>there actually a medicine man or a medicine woman that

1629
01:22:05.760 --> 01:22:07.840
<v Speaker 2>for some reason decides to go into the dark arts.

1630
01:22:07.840 --> 01:22:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Instead of practicing the blessing way, they go into the

1631
01:22:10.680 --> 01:22:12.399
<v Speaker 2>darker terrain where it's like, you know, oh, I can

1632
01:22:12.520 --> 01:22:14.600
<v Speaker 2>use it to gate miss, I can do that. So

1633
01:22:15.039 --> 01:22:18.039
<v Speaker 2>they practice the forbidden medicine is what would be considered,

1634
01:22:18.479 --> 01:22:21.000
<v Speaker 2>and that's how they become the naushi. They sacrifice a

1635
01:22:21.039 --> 01:22:22.439
<v Speaker 2>loved one. It has to be someone that they love

1636
01:22:22.600 --> 01:22:25.720
<v Speaker 2>very much, a wife, a husband, a child. They take

1637
01:22:25.760 --> 01:22:27.239
<v Speaker 2>them out into the dark up night, and they murder

1638
01:22:27.319 --> 01:22:30.279
<v Speaker 2>them violently. And once they murder them, that's a pact

1639
01:22:30.359 --> 01:22:33.399
<v Speaker 2>with whatever dark arts they're they're trying to practice. So

1640
01:22:33.520 --> 01:22:35.520
<v Speaker 2>that's their devotion, is a blood out pretty much.

1641
01:22:37.079 --> 01:22:37.319
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

1642
01:22:40.159 --> 01:22:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Interesting, So I do believe in it.

1643
01:22:42.600 --> 01:22:44.279
<v Speaker 2>I know it's way out there and it sounds like

1644
01:22:44.279 --> 01:22:46.399
<v Speaker 2>an episode of the Twilight Zoner of the X Files.

1645
01:22:46.439 --> 01:22:48.800
<v Speaker 2>But hey, I'm like Foxmoulder. I'm going to look into it.

1646
01:22:48.840 --> 01:22:50.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, if you tell me something's out there, give

1647
01:22:50.800 --> 01:22:52.840
<v Speaker 2>me a shovel, I'll go dig for it. May not

1648
01:22:52.960 --> 01:22:54.840
<v Speaker 2>even I don't know, but.

1649
01:22:56.560 --> 01:23:00.800
<v Speaker 1>There you go, Brian, I got to quick question before.

1650
01:23:01.399 --> 01:23:02.800
<v Speaker 1>There's a couple of other things I want to jump

1651
01:23:02.840 --> 01:23:06.920
<v Speaker 1>into before we search gears, but quick question cut off

1652
01:23:07.239 --> 01:23:09.520
<v Speaker 1>a topic. Do you travel at all?

1653
01:23:10.720 --> 01:23:13.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm not right now. Right now, my current financial situation

1654
01:23:13.479 --> 01:23:15.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of leaves me just going to places in Arizona.

1655
01:23:16.079 --> 01:23:18.079
<v Speaker 2>But once I get on my feet again, I work

1656
01:23:18.119 --> 01:23:18.600
<v Speaker 2>to it spam.

1657
01:23:19.640 --> 01:23:24.199
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, Well, well that being said, hopefully things work out.

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01:23:24.720 --> 01:23:27.039
<v Speaker 1>I'll be in touch with you and regards the further

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01:23:27.840 --> 01:23:30.000
<v Speaker 1>discussions on what I want to talk to you about.

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01:23:30.479 --> 01:23:31.720
<v Speaker 1>Start saving for next year.

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01:23:33.279 --> 01:23:34.960
<v Speaker 2>I can do that I can definitely do that.

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01:23:35.840 --> 01:23:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, good deal. Good deal. So well, here's the question

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01:23:40.079 --> 01:23:44.680
<v Speaker 1>for both. Well, actually, I'm going to ask this question

1664
01:23:44.760 --> 01:23:46.680
<v Speaker 1>and we'll get into this afterwards. Before I ask this

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01:23:46.760 --> 01:23:52.439
<v Speaker 1>next question, are you familiar with the show Expedition Bigfoot? Yes? Okay,

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01:23:52.479 --> 01:23:55.720
<v Speaker 1>good deal. David Wlisten. Have you guys been following Expedition Bigfoot?

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01:23:56.279 --> 01:23:58.279
<v Speaker 4>Ye? I have just seen a little episode with here

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01:23:58.359 --> 01:24:00.640
<v Speaker 4>the other day dB recorded.

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01:24:01.399 --> 01:24:05.119
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, I've been following it. I'm actually the way

1670
01:24:05.279 --> 01:24:09.439
<v Speaker 1>my thing's been recording for some reason. I'm actually I

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01:24:09.560 --> 01:24:12.159
<v Speaker 1>think people are already on episode six I don't know,

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01:24:12.399 --> 01:24:14.800
<v Speaker 1>or four or five of the new series. I don't know.

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01:24:14.960 --> 01:24:19.119
<v Speaker 1>My I got a Discovery Channel, but I haven't recorded.

1674
01:24:19.199 --> 01:24:21.279
<v Speaker 1>I have yet to watch the first episode. So but

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01:24:21.399 --> 01:24:22.760
<v Speaker 1>with that being said, we're going to get into that

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01:24:22.880 --> 01:24:29.560
<v Speaker 1>very very shortly. But I wanted to ask Ryan, what

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01:24:29.760 --> 01:24:33.560
<v Speaker 1>would be the most extreme claim that you've heard of

1678
01:24:33.720 --> 01:24:36.640
<v Speaker 1>that you have a hard time believing or accepting.

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01:24:37.319 --> 01:24:39.359
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so this has nothing to do with Bigfoot. But

1680
01:24:39.439 --> 01:24:41.720
<v Speaker 2>I had a lady who for about four weeks s

1681
01:24:41.800 --> 01:24:44.720
<v Speaker 2>great and that's no exaggeration. Four weeks a total month.

1682
01:24:45.159 --> 01:24:47.159
<v Speaker 2>She would call me every day on Facebook to try

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01:24:47.199 --> 01:24:49.239
<v Speaker 2>to convince me that she had a friendly wind to

1684
01:24:49.319 --> 01:24:51.720
<v Speaker 2>Go that would come down from the mountains to share

1685
01:24:51.800 --> 01:24:56.319
<v Speaker 2>breakfast with her. Okay, some newbie to some new guy

1686
01:24:56.359 --> 01:24:58.079
<v Speaker 2>that never heard of the wind to Go before, he

1687
01:24:58.159 --> 01:25:00.760
<v Speaker 2>might think, oh great, this is awesome. I'm known as

1688
01:25:00.800 --> 01:25:02.680
<v Speaker 2>the windy Go guy. Okay, I've been studying the wind

1689
01:25:02.720 --> 01:25:05.399
<v Speaker 2>to Go for years. So I'm sitting there telling her, going, girl,

1690
01:25:05.600 --> 01:25:08.079
<v Speaker 2>the windy Go is not a positive thing. It's not friendly.

1691
01:25:08.439 --> 01:25:11.119
<v Speaker 2>If you're experiencing a wind to Go, you're in danger.

1692
01:25:11.319 --> 01:25:13.600
<v Speaker 2>You need to run away. They're not gonna come down

1693
01:25:13.640 --> 01:25:15.119
<v Speaker 2>be like, oh, can we have a spat tea and

1694
01:25:15.159 --> 01:25:16.199
<v Speaker 2>a crumpet for breakfast?

1695
01:25:16.560 --> 01:25:24.039
<v Speaker 1>They're not gonna, right Dan.

1696
01:25:24.119 --> 01:25:26.319
<v Speaker 2>It was driving me nuts because I asked her, well,

1697
01:25:26.479 --> 01:25:28.479
<v Speaker 2>do you have cannibalism in your nick of the woods,

1698
01:25:28.479 --> 01:25:30.720
<v Speaker 2>because if you do, you should probably move. That's not

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01:25:30.840 --> 01:25:31.359
<v Speaker 2>a good thing.

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01:25:32.239 --> 01:25:32.279
<v Speaker 1>No.

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01:25:33.239 --> 01:25:36.359
<v Speaker 2>No, this windy Go is a water spirit that you know,

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01:25:36.479 --> 01:25:38.920
<v Speaker 2>decided to summon itself to come visit me. And I'm going,

1703
01:25:39.079 --> 01:25:42.119
<v Speaker 2>oh God, you're giving me. Next says you're in Migraine.

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01:25:44.319 --> 01:25:46.119
<v Speaker 1>Wow, a water spirit.

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01:25:46.840 --> 01:25:48.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, if you know anything about the windy

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01:25:48.560 --> 01:25:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Go Daniel, you're gonna sit there and go really you

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01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:53.520
<v Speaker 2>have a friendly window that comes to share breakfast with you.

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01:25:54.079 --> 01:25:57.000
<v Speaker 1>An I know some yeah, I know some basics, and

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01:25:57.119 --> 01:26:00.239
<v Speaker 1>I watched movies based off of what the indigo is is.

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01:26:00.359 --> 01:26:03.840
<v Speaker 1>But it's like, yeah, there's water spirit about that whole topic.

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01:26:05.000 --> 01:26:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Right, So you want to explain the Wind to Go

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01:26:06.720 --> 01:26:07.199
<v Speaker 2>a little bit?

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01:26:07.840 --> 01:26:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh feel free?

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01:26:08.640 --> 01:26:08.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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01:26:08.880 --> 01:26:09.359
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely?

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01:26:09.479 --> 01:26:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So what the Wind to Go is isn't algonquin

1717
01:26:12.960 --> 01:26:15.880
<v Speaker 2>create oh hip way belief. It's a spiritual entity that,

1718
01:26:16.319 --> 01:26:18.760
<v Speaker 2>say a man or a woman commit cannibalism. It's the

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01:26:18.840 --> 01:26:22.800
<v Speaker 2>most taboo act one can commit. This spirit will possess

1720
01:26:22.880 --> 01:26:25.479
<v Speaker 2>them and it strips away their humanity and it turns

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01:26:25.520 --> 01:26:29.680
<v Speaker 2>them into this creature where they're constantly starving for human flesh.

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01:26:30.239 --> 01:26:33.680
<v Speaker 2>They're so hard they chew away their own lips, they

1723
01:26:33.760 --> 01:26:37.000
<v Speaker 2>chew away their fingertips, and no matter how much they eat,

1724
01:26:37.159 --> 01:26:40.680
<v Speaker 2>they're constantly hungry. They're starving for the human and the

1725
01:26:40.760 --> 01:26:44.039
<v Speaker 2>more they eat, the bigger the Wind to Go gets. So,

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01:26:44.720 --> 01:26:47.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, for this thing to be quote unquote friendly,

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01:26:47.399 --> 01:26:48.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm going here right.

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01:26:51.279 --> 01:26:56.159
<v Speaker 1>Wow, the one movie I recall watching regarding the Wind

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01:26:56.199 --> 01:26:58.520
<v Speaker 1>to Go, I know there's other movies out there, but

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01:26:58.600 --> 01:27:00.960
<v Speaker 1>the one, if I'm I'm not mistaken, I think it

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01:27:01.039 --> 01:27:05.119
<v Speaker 1>was called Antlers. Yes, yeah, okay, so you know what

1732
01:27:05.199 --> 01:27:07.920
<v Speaker 1>the movie I'm talking about, Wait, that's When to Go.

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01:27:08.079 --> 01:27:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm on it. Yeah, so that movie there, I recall

1734
01:27:11.279 --> 01:27:13.399
<v Speaker 1>washing the whole thing. It was pretty freakish.

1735
01:27:14.079 --> 01:27:19.199
<v Speaker 2>Now documentation though, you know, people say that there's never

1736
01:27:19.279 --> 01:27:22.359
<v Speaker 2>been any reported encounters of the wind to Go, and

1737
01:27:22.640 --> 01:27:25.840
<v Speaker 2>that's not true. In the winter of eighteen seventy nine,

1738
01:27:26.039 --> 01:27:29.399
<v Speaker 2>there was a prefur trader by the name of swift Runner. Okay.

1739
01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:32.199
<v Speaker 2>He took his wife, his mother in law, and his

1740
01:27:32.319 --> 01:27:35.680
<v Speaker 2>four kids along the hunting route that he's been through

1741
01:27:35.800 --> 01:27:38.119
<v Speaker 2>many times. This is what was his cabin. He's been

1742
01:27:38.159 --> 01:27:41.079
<v Speaker 2>along this route numerous times through the years. He took

1743
01:27:41.119 --> 01:27:43.199
<v Speaker 2>them there one year and then he came back to

1744
01:27:43.279 --> 01:27:46.680
<v Speaker 2>Fort Saskatchewan. He was talking about how they were starving

1745
01:27:47.000 --> 01:27:49.880
<v Speaker 2>and there was no food, no game, and so he

1746
01:27:49.960 --> 01:27:51.880
<v Speaker 2>had to kill his family. He had to eat his family,

1747
01:27:52.840 --> 01:27:56.680
<v Speaker 2>and when the magistrates forced him to take them back

1748
01:27:56.680 --> 01:27:59.720
<v Speaker 2>to his cabin, he showed him a grizzly sight. Daniel

1749
01:27:59.800 --> 01:28:02.800
<v Speaker 2>is disgusting. There was smears of fat all along the

1750
01:28:02.880 --> 01:28:05.800
<v Speaker 2>walls and on the doors, along the trees. There was

1751
01:28:05.880 --> 01:28:09.399
<v Speaker 2>intestines boiling in a pot. There was human flesh cooking

1752
01:28:09.479 --> 01:28:12.880
<v Speaker 2>on a fire. There was skeletons everywhere. The femurs were

1753
01:28:12.960 --> 01:28:14.840
<v Speaker 2>cracked open where he had to suck out the marrow.

1754
01:28:15.279 --> 01:28:18.239
<v Speaker 2>And he actually just nottly would bend down, pick a

1755
01:28:18.279 --> 01:28:21.359
<v Speaker 2>skeleton up by its eye sockets between two fingers. He'd

1756
01:28:21.479 --> 01:28:23.640
<v Speaker 2>waggle the skull and he'd be like, this was my wife,

1757
01:28:24.079 --> 01:28:26.039
<v Speaker 2>and they'd throw that one aside. He picked up another one,

1758
01:28:26.319 --> 01:28:28.800
<v Speaker 2>this was my son, and he just throw it away.

1759
01:28:28.840 --> 01:28:31.079
<v Speaker 2>When they asked him why did you do this, he

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01:28:31.199 --> 01:28:35.920
<v Speaker 2>told them I am Windigo. So yeah, there is historical

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01:28:36.159 --> 01:28:38.159
<v Speaker 2>reports of a wind to Go possessing something.

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01:28:39.640 --> 01:28:43.119
<v Speaker 1>Wow mm hm no. Well, with all being said, like

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01:28:43.199 --> 01:28:45.800
<v Speaker 1>I said, the movie was called Antlers. But I've recently

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01:28:45.880 --> 01:28:49.039
<v Speaker 1>seen a post where somebody was talking about the true

1765
01:28:49.119 --> 01:28:51.359
<v Speaker 1>legend of Windogo. Maybe I'm thinking about something. Maybe I'm

1766
01:28:51.359 --> 01:28:54.399
<v Speaker 1>getting this mixed up. The Windo Goo is claimed to

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01:28:54.479 --> 01:28:57.720
<v Speaker 1>have not does not have antlers. I mean, what's your description,

1768
01:28:57.880 --> 01:28:58.720
<v Speaker 1>what's your knowledge on that?

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01:28:59.399 --> 01:29:02.960
<v Speaker 2>So the thing comes from Algernon Blackwood's book The Wind

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01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:05.560
<v Speaker 2>to Go. There was an artist that was trying to

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01:29:05.800 --> 01:29:08.600
<v Speaker 2>kind of relay in a comic book form, and he

1772
01:29:08.760 --> 01:29:12.319
<v Speaker 2>saw the branches because in the book Algernon depicts it

1773
01:29:12.399 --> 01:29:16.720
<v Speaker 2>as a human being that was wearing forest debris as camouflage. Oh,

1774
01:29:17.840 --> 01:29:20.680
<v Speaker 2>this artist misinterpreted it and he gave it antlers. And

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01:29:20.720 --> 01:29:23.279
<v Speaker 2>then what happened too. People confuse the Wind to Go

1776
01:29:23.439 --> 01:29:26.439
<v Speaker 2>with the Wachowga and hern the hunter. So they gave

1777
01:29:26.479 --> 01:29:28.640
<v Speaker 2>it that deer head, they gave it the antlers, they

1778
01:29:28.640 --> 01:29:32.159
<v Speaker 2>gave it fur, they gave it tails, four legs. That's

1779
01:29:32.359 --> 01:29:34.600
<v Speaker 2>not how the Wind to Go look. Okay, A Wind

1780
01:29:34.640 --> 01:29:37.279
<v Speaker 2>to Go looks like an emaciated human being. That's pretty

1781
01:29:37.359 --> 01:29:41.079
<v Speaker 2>much bald. Okay, skinny is white, white, white, super pale.

1782
01:29:41.479 --> 01:29:44.960
<v Speaker 2>They usually have sunken yellow eyes. They have chewed away lips,

1783
01:29:45.079 --> 01:29:48.560
<v Speaker 2>chewed away fingertips. There's really no semblance of humanity in

1784
01:29:48.560 --> 01:29:52.039
<v Speaker 2>them anymore. They act very animal like. So that's the

1785
01:29:52.119 --> 01:29:53.680
<v Speaker 2>real depiction of the Wind to Go.

1786
01:29:55.159 --> 01:29:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, yeah, because I mean, are you seeing anyone

1787
01:29:59.760 --> 01:30:02.560
<v Speaker 1>who seen the movie Antlers? That was a pretty freakish movie.

1788
01:30:02.640 --> 01:30:05.800
<v Speaker 1>But you know when the kid was protecting his father and.

1789
01:30:07.239 --> 01:30:09.119
<v Speaker 2>They were so close, when it was just the dad

1790
01:30:09.159 --> 01:30:11.760
<v Speaker 2>and he was looking so you know, demonic in a sense,

1791
01:30:11.800 --> 01:30:13.560
<v Speaker 2>how he had the veins going across his body and

1792
01:30:13.640 --> 01:30:17.079
<v Speaker 2>his face had changed. That was an accurate representation of

1793
01:30:17.119 --> 01:30:18.600
<v Speaker 2>the wind to Go. When they had him change into

1794
01:30:18.640 --> 01:30:21.680
<v Speaker 2>that antler form, That's when I was like, no, why

1795
01:30:21.800 --> 01:30:25.079
<v Speaker 2>did you do this? You were so accurate until that point.

1796
01:30:25.159 --> 01:30:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Why would you do that? Yeah? What that means said,

1797
01:30:29.000 --> 01:30:30.479
<v Speaker 1>I think that had a lot to do with the

1798
01:30:30.720 --> 01:30:34.439
<v Speaker 1>entertainment industry was you know, whoever produced that movie is like, yeah,

1799
01:30:34.439 --> 01:30:36.000
<v Speaker 1>we got to make this look like, hey, what we

1800
01:30:36.720 --> 01:30:39.079
<v Speaker 1>come up with? I get it.

1801
01:30:39.239 --> 01:30:42.239
<v Speaker 2>But the most accurate representation I've ever seen in any

1802
01:30:42.319 --> 01:30:45.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of media is that video game Until Dawn. If

1803
01:30:45.920 --> 01:30:47.880
<v Speaker 2>you look at screenshots of that video game, how they

1804
01:30:48.039 --> 01:30:50.319
<v Speaker 2>portrayed the wind to Go in that video game is

1805
01:30:50.560 --> 01:30:56.039
<v Speaker 2>spot on accurate. That's how the Algonquins, the Creed, the Ojibwey,

1806
01:30:56.399 --> 01:30:57.960
<v Speaker 2>all of them describe it just like that.

1807
01:30:59.000 --> 01:31:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, yeah, I can't say I've ever you said

1808
01:31:03.920 --> 01:31:08.279
<v Speaker 1>that was a video game. Yeah, yep, oh okay, I

1809
01:31:08.359 --> 01:31:11.239
<v Speaker 1>haven't played video games and spend quite some time, but yeah,

1810
01:31:11.279 --> 01:31:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't. I'm not familiar with that. Yeah, it's a

1811
01:31:13.840 --> 01:31:14.640
<v Speaker 1>good story.

1812
01:31:14.359 --> 01:31:16.760
<v Speaker 2>And actually, you know it does have its foundations in

1813
01:31:16.840 --> 01:31:19.560
<v Speaker 2>the Original War. That's why I love that game so much,

1814
01:31:19.600 --> 01:31:22.359
<v Speaker 2>because it's about two sisters that have an accident. They

1815
01:31:22.399 --> 01:31:24.239
<v Speaker 2>fall off a cliff, and their friends think that they

1816
01:31:24.319 --> 01:31:26.880
<v Speaker 2>died falling off the cliff. Well what happened is they

1817
01:31:26.920 --> 01:31:29.479
<v Speaker 2>actually fell down into a mine. One of the sisters

1818
01:31:29.840 --> 01:31:33.039
<v Speaker 2>lived after falling off this cliff. The other sister died.

1819
01:31:33.359 --> 01:31:35.960
<v Speaker 2>So the sister that lived had to cannibalize her sister

1820
01:31:36.800 --> 01:31:38.880
<v Speaker 2>and that's how she came the win again.

1821
01:31:39.800 --> 01:31:48.279
<v Speaker 1>Right, So it was interacting. Yeah, okay, so all right,

1822
01:31:48.520 --> 01:31:51.680
<v Speaker 1>very good. So yeah, I want to I'm glad you

1823
01:31:51.760 --> 01:31:57.159
<v Speaker 1>shared that with us. That's very interesting information. So I

1824
01:31:57.239 --> 01:32:00.119
<v Speaker 1>want to switch hears. The reason before I ask that

1825
01:32:00.239 --> 01:32:01.439
<v Speaker 1>I was talking about I want to make sure you

1826
01:32:01.479 --> 01:32:05.520
<v Speaker 1>guys are familiar with Expedition Big Quick mm hm. So

1827
01:32:06.000 --> 01:32:09.000
<v Speaker 1>you know I've been following it, you know, because you know,

1828
01:32:09.239 --> 01:32:12.600
<v Speaker 1>just like you know, even when Finding Bigfoot was up

1829
01:32:12.640 --> 01:32:15.119
<v Speaker 1>and running that I was watching every episode and you.

1830
01:32:15.159 --> 01:32:16.600
<v Speaker 4>Know it was what it was.

1831
01:32:17.920 --> 01:32:21.800
<v Speaker 1>And uh, Expedition Big Quick, what's your what's your take

1832
01:32:21.880 --> 01:32:24.840
<v Speaker 1>on Expedition Big Quick? Because you know, really I'm asking

1833
01:32:24.960 --> 01:32:28.920
<v Speaker 1>because they they claim to show all what they showed

1834
01:32:29.880 --> 01:32:33.039
<v Speaker 1>and I I had my opinion, and I'm you know,

1835
01:32:33.119 --> 01:32:35.439
<v Speaker 1>I'll share my take on this, But what's your take

1836
01:32:35.479 --> 01:32:36.600
<v Speaker 1>on Expedition big Quick?

1837
01:32:37.399 --> 01:32:40.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh boy? So I like it because it's bringing awareness

1838
01:32:40.399 --> 01:32:42.960
<v Speaker 2>of the topic to the public, to the masses. But

1839
01:32:43.319 --> 01:32:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I think they're playing up on, you know, the stereotypes

1840
01:32:47.039 --> 01:32:50.399
<v Speaker 2>of what cryptozoology is. And I think people need to

1841
01:32:50.479 --> 01:32:53.560
<v Speaker 2>realize they're not going to find big on a TV show.

1842
01:32:53.640 --> 01:32:57.239
<v Speaker 2>It's about rating. It's not about anything truthful. It's not

1843
01:32:57.279 --> 01:33:00.960
<v Speaker 2>about presenting evidence that's real to the pubble like spoke

1844
01:33:01.039 --> 01:33:03.319
<v Speaker 2>you getting your view. That's all it's about, you know.

1845
01:33:03.479 --> 01:33:05.800
<v Speaker 2>So that's good way, but bad in a way too.

1846
01:33:05.880 --> 01:33:08.840
<v Speaker 2>It's doing a lot of disservice to what researchers like

1847
01:33:08.960 --> 01:33:10.960
<v Speaker 2>you and me and David and Melissa do.

1848
01:33:12.119 --> 01:33:20.079
<v Speaker 3>Right. Well, one thing, Well, I'll watch it basically for entertainment.

1849
01:33:20.159 --> 01:33:20.239
<v Speaker 1>Now.

1850
01:33:20.960 --> 01:33:24.560
<v Speaker 3>I do know sometimes hopefully some of the stuff they show,

1851
01:33:24.800 --> 01:33:27.319
<v Speaker 3>like some of the tracks of stuff, it's actual footage

1852
01:33:27.319 --> 01:33:29.720
<v Speaker 3>from when they're out in the field. But when you've

1853
01:33:29.720 --> 01:33:32.560
<v Speaker 3>got TV crews out there running around, they're running around

1854
01:33:32.600 --> 01:33:38.079
<v Speaker 3>with flash flights at nighttime. Uh yeah, that's ratings, you know.

1855
01:33:38.199 --> 01:33:40.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean, of course, they're going to play it up

1856
01:33:40.680 --> 01:33:44.319
<v Speaker 3>a little bit. But they're also setting a bed light

1857
01:33:44.399 --> 01:33:47.680
<v Speaker 3>in some ways too, because for those that are thinking

1858
01:33:47.680 --> 01:33:50.760
<v Speaker 3>about getting into it, you don't need them out there

1859
01:33:50.840 --> 01:33:53.600
<v Speaker 3>running around in the woods at nighttime with flashlights and

1860
01:33:54.199 --> 01:33:57.960
<v Speaker 3>towards every sailing because if they would have an encounter,

1861
01:33:58.880 --> 01:33:59.720
<v Speaker 3>could you provoke it?

1862
01:34:00.680 --> 01:34:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Right?

1863
01:34:01.399 --> 01:34:03.319
<v Speaker 4>Are they gonna stand there wait on you to catch

1864
01:34:03.399 --> 01:34:06.199
<v Speaker 4>up with them? People?

1865
01:34:06.640 --> 01:34:08.920
<v Speaker 3>They need to ratualize doing this. A lot of it's

1866
01:34:09.039 --> 01:34:10.960
<v Speaker 3>just for entertainment. I mean I like watching the show.

1867
01:34:11.000 --> 01:34:15.159
<v Speaker 3>Don't get me wrong. You good ideas too. You know,

1868
01:34:15.279 --> 01:34:17.319
<v Speaker 3>they might do something on the show that you can

1869
01:34:17.520 --> 01:34:20.520
<v Speaker 3>incorporate in your investigation if you have that capability.

1870
01:34:21.399 --> 01:34:24.399
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, it goes for me, It goes both ways.

1871
01:34:25.039 --> 01:34:27.840
<v Speaker 3>They don't approach it right because I've always to my

1872
01:34:27.960 --> 01:34:31.000
<v Speaker 3>two careers, I've always been trained and trained people. You

1873
01:34:31.199 --> 01:34:36.760
<v Speaker 3>never run into a situation, Never ever run into a situation, right,

1874
01:34:37.560 --> 01:34:40.640
<v Speaker 3>Bad things can happen from that exactly.

1875
01:34:42.840 --> 01:34:44.720
<v Speaker 2>So you're telling me if I hear big howl, I

1876
01:34:44.760 --> 01:34:47.399
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't run towards it like a typical horror movie idiot,

1877
01:34:47.439 --> 01:34:47.760
<v Speaker 2>and do that.

1878
01:34:51.760 --> 01:34:56.000
<v Speaker 4>What's it? What's another program? Mountain must Mountain, Mountain monsters.

1879
01:34:56.119 --> 01:34:59.720
<v Speaker 4>Mountain monsters out the right amount. Yeah, tell me those

1880
01:34:59.800 --> 01:35:02.199
<v Speaker 4>gun they're loaded and they're out there driving around and

1881
01:35:02.359 --> 01:35:05.960
<v Speaker 4>running around in the woods. Come on, it's entertainment.

1882
01:35:06.359 --> 01:35:09.039
<v Speaker 2>There's one thing I like about mountain monsters, though they

1883
01:35:09.119 --> 01:35:11.479
<v Speaker 2>do bring up the more obscure stuff. You know, if

1884
01:35:11.520 --> 01:35:13.439
<v Speaker 2>it weren't for them, people we didn't really know about,

1885
01:35:13.479 --> 01:35:15.800
<v Speaker 2>like the brabing Mocker because when I brought it up,

1886
01:35:15.800 --> 01:35:17.520
<v Speaker 2>people were like, hunh what rabon mocker?

1887
01:35:17.600 --> 01:35:17.640
<v Speaker 1>What?

1888
01:35:18.119 --> 01:35:19.640
<v Speaker 2>And then they're like, oh, we I heard about this

1889
01:35:19.720 --> 01:35:21.560
<v Speaker 2>on mountain Monsters. I'm like, yeah, you did.

1890
01:35:21.640 --> 01:35:22.199
<v Speaker 1>Now let me tell you.

1891
01:35:24.560 --> 01:35:26.039
<v Speaker 4>Also double ed sword on that.

1892
01:35:26.159 --> 01:35:29.439
<v Speaker 3>Because you got people that don't get out in the woods,

1893
01:35:29.640 --> 01:35:32.079
<v Speaker 3>or they barely even leave the cot what I call

1894
01:35:32.199 --> 01:35:35.560
<v Speaker 3>the concrete jungle, and they're watching programs like this, and

1895
01:35:35.840 --> 01:35:39.359
<v Speaker 3>when they encounter real people to go out and do research,

1896
01:35:40.359 --> 01:35:43.880
<v Speaker 3>they've already established this bias thinking that these people may

1897
01:35:43.920 --> 01:35:47.159
<v Speaker 3>be what they're watching on TV. You know, a correlation

1898
01:35:47.279 --> 01:35:51.520
<v Speaker 3>between the two, right, Yeah, that's no way I look

1899
01:35:51.560 --> 01:35:53.199
<v Speaker 3>at it too. I take anything with the brain of

1900
01:35:53.279 --> 01:35:56.279
<v Speaker 3>salt when encounter people and stuff. But when I have

1901
01:35:56.920 --> 01:36:00.239
<v Speaker 3>When we first got it started with Daniel four or

1902
01:36:00.239 --> 01:36:03.079
<v Speaker 3>five years ago we posted on Facebook.

1903
01:36:03.439 --> 01:36:05.560
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I believe we've always had this interest.

1904
01:36:05.560 --> 01:36:07.840
<v Speaker 3>It's nothing new as far as that bearing normal to

1905
01:36:07.920 --> 01:36:10.239
<v Speaker 3>Bigfoot and everything else from the practic experiences.

1906
01:36:10.960 --> 01:36:12.760
<v Speaker 4>But I know how the big Foot in counter as

1907
01:36:12.800 --> 01:36:15.840
<v Speaker 4>far as I've always grown up and interested in that

1908
01:36:15.960 --> 01:36:16.520
<v Speaker 4>kind of stuff.

1909
01:36:17.239 --> 01:36:21.199
<v Speaker 3>But when you post on social media just to say

1910
01:36:21.239 --> 01:36:23.319
<v Speaker 3>what to them me getting involved with and when you

1911
01:36:23.439 --> 01:36:26.439
<v Speaker 3>get two responses by private message they didn't want to

1912
01:36:26.479 --> 01:36:29.880
<v Speaker 3>post on the general chat part, to me, that leads

1913
01:36:30.880 --> 01:36:35.960
<v Speaker 3>leads into more credence about people actually saying something they

1914
01:36:36.000 --> 01:36:40.279
<v Speaker 3>could not understand or explain. Yes, right, and they wanted

1915
01:36:40.319 --> 01:36:43.159
<v Speaker 3>to keep it on the download if that's the right

1916
01:36:43.319 --> 01:36:45.800
<v Speaker 3>terminology for that, to where they want to still keep

1917
01:36:45.840 --> 01:36:48.199
<v Speaker 3>a private but they want to share their experience.

1918
01:36:49.000 --> 01:36:51.079
<v Speaker 4>And that opened my eyes a little bit too. Of course,

1919
01:36:51.119 --> 01:36:51.760
<v Speaker 4>we had got to.

1920
01:36:51.800 --> 01:36:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Run around Daniel and learned a lot from him and

1921
01:36:54.000 --> 01:36:56.399
<v Speaker 3>stuff out there and what he's doing. Every time you

1922
01:36:56.479 --> 01:36:58.319
<v Speaker 3>turn around and buy something, I got to buy it too,

1923
01:36:58.479 --> 01:36:59.680
<v Speaker 3>And I have to.

1924
01:37:01.560 --> 01:37:03.800
<v Speaker 4>Thank you Daniel. You started this.

1925
01:37:06.079 --> 01:37:09.479
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's why that's why I posted that funny meme

1926
01:37:09.560 --> 01:37:12.359
<v Speaker 1>the other earlier. Today it's like yeah, it's like yeah,

1927
01:37:12.520 --> 01:37:15.439
<v Speaker 1>people think I'm rich to see my big foot research.

1928
01:37:16.359 --> 01:37:17.239
<v Speaker 4>I've seen that I'm here.

1929
01:37:17.560 --> 01:37:20.439
<v Speaker 1>That's only because I'm not rich. I'm irresponsible.

1930
01:37:22.800 --> 01:37:25.760
<v Speaker 3>Going to camp and stuff like that. Camaraderie, so I mean,

1931
01:37:25.880 --> 01:37:28.720
<v Speaker 3>it's multi faster for us getting out with Daniel and

1932
01:37:28.800 --> 01:37:31.760
<v Speaker 3>meeting new people. The other is part of the team

1933
01:37:32.600 --> 01:37:35.039
<v Speaker 3>camp enjoy each other's company and stuff like that, have

1934
01:37:35.239 --> 01:37:37.279
<v Speaker 3>fun at the same time, and you go out and

1935
01:37:37.359 --> 01:37:41.600
<v Speaker 3>do some research, and it's just multi fasted for us

1936
01:37:41.600 --> 01:37:43.000
<v Speaker 3>to be able to get out and do stuff like that.

1937
01:37:43.399 --> 01:37:45.319
<v Speaker 3>That's another element to get out and enjoy life.

1938
01:37:45.159 --> 01:37:45.600
<v Speaker 4>A little bit.

1939
01:37:47.399 --> 01:37:50.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we've already come across things really couldn't explain

1940
01:37:50.920 --> 01:37:53.840
<v Speaker 3>sometimes sales and stuff like that, doing that time recordings.

1941
01:37:54.760 --> 01:37:57.199
<v Speaker 3>And then at one structure of the last camp out

1942
01:37:57.399 --> 01:38:00.840
<v Speaker 3>we did, Daniel took me on the back side of

1943
01:38:00.880 --> 01:38:04.119
<v Speaker 3>the campsite that we were at, and the one we

1944
01:38:04.239 --> 01:38:06.880
<v Speaker 3>can't explain. Who would build this little bit of structure.

1945
01:38:06.920 --> 01:38:09.399
<v Speaker 3>It's too low for a hunter. It did not look

1946
01:38:09.520 --> 01:38:13.239
<v Speaker 3>like a hunter's blind. But all these leaves and were

1947
01:38:13.359 --> 01:38:17.560
<v Speaker 3>laying branches are playing in one line facing in the

1948
01:38:17.640 --> 01:38:22.199
<v Speaker 3>same direction. Wow, right, and uh, but this one thing

1949
01:38:22.279 --> 01:38:24.159
<v Speaker 3>we did not look at at least I didn't think

1950
01:38:24.159 --> 01:38:24.479
<v Speaker 3>about that.

1951
01:38:24.560 --> 01:38:25.479
<v Speaker 4>After the fact, is.

1952
01:38:27.640 --> 01:38:30.680
<v Speaker 3>All of those it's like the top of a canopy,

1953
01:38:30.800 --> 01:38:33.520
<v Speaker 3>is what it was real low to the ground. Yeah,

1954
01:38:33.520 --> 01:38:35.279
<v Speaker 3>I mean it was really big enough to even put

1955
01:38:35.319 --> 01:38:36.840
<v Speaker 3>a deer into. I was trying to have a deer

1956
01:38:36.880 --> 01:38:38.600
<v Speaker 3>if they shot it. I mean, somebody would be that

1957
01:38:38.840 --> 01:38:41.920
<v Speaker 3>glabor building something like that, elaborate to be able to

1958
01:38:41.960 --> 01:38:44.319
<v Speaker 3>do something like that. But I did not look at

1959
01:38:44.399 --> 01:38:48.439
<v Speaker 3>the end of those branches that was laid side by side,

1960
01:38:48.720 --> 01:38:52.239
<v Speaker 3>straight lines to see if they were cut or broken.

1961
01:38:52.880 --> 01:38:54.800
<v Speaker 4>Did you look at them down? Oh?

1962
01:38:54.920 --> 01:38:58.159
<v Speaker 1>No, you can look at the video because I mean

1963
01:38:58.399 --> 01:39:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I I, uh yeah. They were clearly laid there by

1964
01:39:02.039 --> 01:39:05.479
<v Speaker 1>someone or something for what reason we don't know, but

1965
01:39:05.640 --> 01:39:07.840
<v Speaker 1>they they were not cut.

1966
01:39:08.119 --> 01:39:12.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, all right. I don't think to look at

1967
01:39:12.399 --> 01:39:13.920
<v Speaker 4>that aspect of until.

1968
01:39:15.520 --> 01:39:21.039
<v Speaker 3>Too late, cut with a knife or or actually broken,

1969
01:39:21.199 --> 01:39:25.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, like broken like a twig and then all

1970
01:39:25.760 --> 01:39:26.800
<v Speaker 3>going in the same direction.

1971
01:39:26.920 --> 01:39:30.680
<v Speaker 2>But interesting, I feel like structures are often misinterpreted too.

1972
01:39:30.960 --> 01:39:33.159
<v Speaker 2>You know, everybody thinks, oh, it's a structure, it's automatically

1973
01:39:33.239 --> 01:39:36.479
<v Speaker 2>big foot. But it's like make these things too though,

1974
01:39:36.520 --> 01:39:38.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, you have to look at the branches and

1975
01:39:38.119 --> 01:39:40.520
<v Speaker 2>the sticks it's made of. Were they cut clean or

1976
01:39:40.560 --> 01:39:43.800
<v Speaker 2>were they snapped off? If it's cut, it's probably not bigfoot.

1977
01:39:44.720 --> 01:39:48.560
<v Speaker 4>Well it was done by intelligence the way these were

1978
01:39:48.640 --> 01:39:49.439
<v Speaker 4>laid obviously.

1979
01:39:50.079 --> 01:39:52.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh sure, I'm just saying that. You know, everybody assumes

1980
01:39:52.199 --> 01:39:56.600
<v Speaker 2>every structure is a big foot, but I've seen similar things,

1981
01:39:57.000 --> 01:39:58.800
<v Speaker 2>so I think we can't just jump to the conclusion

1982
01:39:58.840 --> 01:40:00.319
<v Speaker 2>right away, Oh it's a big foot that made these.

1983
01:40:00.399 --> 01:40:03.000
<v Speaker 2>We have to examine that before we can determine whether

1984
01:40:03.079 --> 01:40:03.159
<v Speaker 2>or not.

1985
01:40:05.279 --> 01:40:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Right. Well, you know a lot of people find these

1986
01:40:07.840 --> 01:40:10.880
<v Speaker 1>these these structures regardless if they were cut or not.

1987
01:40:11.479 --> 01:40:14.800
<v Speaker 1>And most of these structures are not used with cut

1988
01:40:14.920 --> 01:40:18.159
<v Speaker 1>limbs and trees and branches a lot. I see a

1989
01:40:18.159 --> 01:40:20.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of people post this stuff, and I actually, you know,

1990
01:40:20.920 --> 01:40:24.239
<v Speaker 1>being the objective person that I am, I've actually posted

1991
01:40:24.239 --> 01:40:26.640
<v Speaker 1>It's actually on my YouTube channel where I actually did

1992
01:40:26.720 --> 01:40:33.079
<v Speaker 1>a video presentation showing an individual gathering nationally falling timber

1993
01:40:33.199 --> 01:40:35.479
<v Speaker 1>and branches and limbs from the ground to build his

1994
01:40:36.319 --> 01:40:39.479
<v Speaker 1>his lean to structure, and you know, showing that. You know,

1995
01:40:39.640 --> 01:40:44.159
<v Speaker 1>my point was that hey, this stuff was made, you know,

1996
01:40:44.239 --> 01:40:48.039
<v Speaker 1>by a human being, you know these things, because you know,

1997
01:40:48.119 --> 01:40:51.119
<v Speaker 1>we don't. We can't assume Bigfoot made these because you know,

1998
01:40:51.199 --> 01:40:54.920
<v Speaker 1>we're not witnessing Bigfoot making these, right, I mean, maybe

1999
01:40:55.159 --> 01:40:58.000
<v Speaker 1>there's some possibilities and this is maybe they are, but

2000
01:40:58.119 --> 01:41:01.880
<v Speaker 1>we're not there to witness it. Yeah, I would like

2001
01:41:01.920 --> 01:41:04.039
<v Speaker 1>to believe that Bigfoot's making some of these, but you know,

2002
01:41:04.119 --> 01:41:06.760
<v Speaker 1>we can't prove that. But it's always and they tell

2003
01:41:06.840 --> 01:41:11.640
<v Speaker 1>people it's always that possibility. Bigfoot should be our last conclusion,

2004
01:41:11.920 --> 01:41:18.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, yes, yes, I agree, so absolutely.

2005
01:41:19.680 --> 01:41:19.960
<v Speaker 4>Proved.

2006
01:41:20.079 --> 01:41:25.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, so, but yeah, I wanted to back up

2007
01:41:25.079 --> 01:41:26.680
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Uh you know the reason why I

2008
01:41:26.960 --> 01:41:29.960
<v Speaker 1>wanted to bring up exhibition Bigfoot, which you know, I've

2009
01:41:30.000 --> 01:41:31.760
<v Speaker 1>only brought it up a couple of times on all

2010
01:41:31.840 --> 01:41:35.399
<v Speaker 1>the previous podcasts for those who are watching that show.

2011
01:41:35.760 --> 01:41:38.560
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I myself, I'll admit I love watching it.

2012
01:41:38.960 --> 01:41:42.800
<v Speaker 1>It's very entertaining and and and with that being said,

2013
01:41:42.960 --> 01:41:46.159
<v Speaker 1>that's all it really is. Because people got to understand

2014
01:41:47.000 --> 01:41:50.479
<v Speaker 1>when shows like this come about that it's actually being

2015
01:41:50.560 --> 01:41:56.000
<v Speaker 1>produced by a major network. These are shows to entertain us,

2016
01:41:56.159 --> 01:41:59.279
<v Speaker 1>and and the network is going to do and produce

2017
01:41:59.479 --> 01:42:02.279
<v Speaker 1>and conduct everything to keep the viewers.

2018
01:42:02.039 --> 01:42:05.399
<v Speaker 4>Watching us watching the show, make the money.

2019
01:42:06.439 --> 01:42:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah exactly. I mean if they're gonna make money.

2020
01:42:09.760 --> 01:42:11.680
<v Speaker 1>They got to do what's possible. Yeah, I mean yeah,

2021
01:42:11.800 --> 01:42:16.039
<v Speaker 1>they are producing stuff where we're seeing it like okay, yeah,

2022
01:42:16.079 --> 01:42:19.560
<v Speaker 1>they're examining stuff, and they're producing all this. You know,

2023
01:42:19.640 --> 01:42:22.560
<v Speaker 1>they're using high tech stuff. That's high high dollar stuff.

2024
01:42:23.079 --> 01:42:26.399
<v Speaker 1>The network's paying for this, not the people on their show.

2025
01:42:26.840 --> 01:42:27.000
<v Speaker 4>You know.

2026
01:42:29.399 --> 01:42:32.920
<v Speaker 1>The other thing is, I don't know if you've guys

2027
01:42:32.960 --> 01:42:34.760
<v Speaker 1>seen any of this, but they if you watch and

2028
01:42:34.800 --> 01:42:37.680
<v Speaker 1>pay attention to another this, they show the thermal images

2029
01:42:37.800 --> 01:42:41.680
<v Speaker 1>of these some of them. Some of the formal details

2030
01:42:41.720 --> 01:42:45.479
<v Speaker 1>that they show is showing human upright figures walking through

2031
01:42:45.520 --> 01:42:49.079
<v Speaker 1>the woods. Uh. There was a daytime video clips that

2032
01:42:49.159 --> 01:42:53.840
<v Speaker 1>I've seen where it actually showed two bipedal creatures in

2033
01:42:53.880 --> 01:42:55.880
<v Speaker 1>the background walking through the woods on one of them.

2034
01:42:56.640 --> 01:43:00.680
<v Speaker 1>So my thing is anyone who's paying attention and captured,

2035
01:43:00.880 --> 01:43:04.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, seeing all this, Okay, this is just showing

2036
01:43:04.439 --> 01:43:08.000
<v Speaker 1>clips and scenes of what was captured. Why Why isn't

2037
01:43:08.079 --> 01:43:10.800
<v Speaker 1>any of this captured or not should to say captain,

2038
01:43:10.800 --> 01:43:13.399
<v Speaker 1>but why is discussed and brought up and made into

2039
01:43:13.439 --> 01:43:16.640
<v Speaker 1>a bigger deal like look at the back, look at

2040
01:43:16.680 --> 01:43:20.840
<v Speaker 1>the passion, even till this day. From nineteen sixty seven,

2041
01:43:21.560 --> 01:43:23.960
<v Speaker 1>passion footage is still a big deal up till this

2042
01:43:24.159 --> 01:43:27.680
<v Speaker 1>very date. That was captured stuff that's on this show.

2043
01:43:28.760 --> 01:43:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Why aren't we talking about it? You know, Why isn't

2044
01:43:30.760 --> 01:43:35.520
<v Speaker 1>it a big deal? Because you know? Yeah, so the

2045
01:43:35.680 --> 01:43:37.840
<v Speaker 1>entertainment is showing what's necessary.

2046
01:43:38.520 --> 01:43:40.439
<v Speaker 2>One of the cast members from one of the shows,

2047
01:43:40.439 --> 01:43:42.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's Fighting Bigfoot or Expedition Bigfoot,

2048
01:43:43.319 --> 01:43:45.479
<v Speaker 2>but their cast member was an actor. He was in

2049
01:43:45.600 --> 01:43:49.119
<v Speaker 2>Willow Creek Bob got Goldway's film. So it's like, hold on,

2050
01:43:49.239 --> 01:43:51.600
<v Speaker 2>he's an actor. He knows how to act surprise and

2051
01:43:51.680 --> 01:43:55.079
<v Speaker 2>act excited. You guys aren't taking this into consideration.

2052
01:43:56.119 --> 01:43:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Right, Well, look at Bryce. Bryce is a known actor

2053
01:44:00.159 --> 01:44:05.319
<v Speaker 1>on show. He's he's right, okay, okay, I got you, okay,

2054
01:44:05.960 --> 01:44:09.279
<v Speaker 1>ye right, if you're going to Willow Creek.

2055
01:44:09.319 --> 01:44:10.399
<v Speaker 2>He was the star of that movie.

2056
01:44:13.560 --> 01:44:16.039
<v Speaker 1>Wow. I didn't pay attention to that. Wow.

2057
01:44:16.800 --> 01:44:17.399
<v Speaker 4>Yeah he was.

2058
01:44:18.399 --> 01:44:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And now they got the new guy. Yeah, well Beka,

2059
01:44:23.960 --> 01:44:26.319
<v Speaker 1>this guy, Bico Biker, whatever his name is, he's a

2060
01:44:26.399 --> 01:44:30.800
<v Speaker 1>new addition to the show. Yeah. The only little bit

2061
01:44:30.800 --> 01:44:33.439
<v Speaker 1>of information I know about Bco is that he was

2062
01:44:33.479 --> 01:44:37.239
<v Speaker 1>on the show called Alone. Yeah, so I don't know.

2063
01:44:41.560 --> 01:44:45.199
<v Speaker 3>Well, the other character that was on next to just

2064
01:44:45.319 --> 01:44:47.520
<v Speaker 3>a bigfoot. Since he's on there now.

2065
01:44:48.279 --> 01:44:52.479
<v Speaker 1>Ronnie, oh you're talking about yeah Ronnie. Yeah, Ronnie actually

2066
01:44:52.520 --> 01:44:55.359
<v Speaker 1>left on his own accord. Yeah, he left. He wasn't

2067
01:44:55.399 --> 01:44:57.560
<v Speaker 1>kicked out or nothing. That was his own doing.

2068
01:45:00.039 --> 01:45:02.760
<v Speaker 7>Had something to do with some Daniel Lee Barnett over

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01:45:02.840 --> 01:45:05.880
<v Speaker 7>in the UK that when exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is exactly what it was. Fourteen

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01:45:14.960 --> 01:45:18.359
<v Speaker 1>year old Daniel Lieber and really nice kid. I've been

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01:45:18.399 --> 01:45:22.720
<v Speaker 1>in conversations and discussions with him on and off, and

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01:45:22.880 --> 01:45:26.680
<v Speaker 1>actually he reached out to me by a week ago. Yeah,

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01:45:28.159 --> 01:45:31.159
<v Speaker 1>he puts on He just started last year, he started

2075
01:45:31.199 --> 01:45:33.479
<v Speaker 1>his own his own conference out there in the UK,

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01:45:34.039 --> 01:45:36.880
<v Speaker 1>and uh, I guess this first one was Okay, it

2077
01:45:36.960 --> 01:45:38.359
<v Speaker 1>was you know, it wasn't going a big turnout, but

2078
01:45:38.520 --> 01:45:43.479
<v Speaker 1>it was. It was, you know, it was still a success. Regardless. However,

2079
01:45:44.199 --> 01:45:48.399
<v Speaker 1>he comes to the United States every so often his father,

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01:45:48.479 --> 01:45:51.000
<v Speaker 1>you know him, his father and them, they take vacations

2081
01:45:51.039 --> 01:45:55.399
<v Speaker 1>that they go to Florida every year. Daniel actually reached

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01:45:55.399 --> 01:45:58.399
<v Speaker 1>out to me last week or maybe it was a

2083
01:45:58.439 --> 01:46:01.600
<v Speaker 1>week before, but hey, I'm gonna be in the u

2084
01:46:02.319 --> 01:46:04.760
<v Speaker 1>US and blah blah blah, what would you think if

2085
01:46:04.760 --> 01:46:07.399
<v Speaker 1>I could come to your band. Hey, hey, I was like, hey, great,

2086
01:46:07.439 --> 01:46:10.680
<v Speaker 1>that'd be great. You're welcome. But then he started pushing

2087
01:46:10.760 --> 01:46:12.840
<v Speaker 1>himself like he wanted to be a speaker. I said,

2088
01:46:13.079 --> 01:46:16.359
<v Speaker 1>my speakers are already I'm already booked on speakers. Blah

2089
01:46:16.399 --> 01:46:18.119
<v Speaker 1>blah blah. Then he was he was still trying to

2090
01:46:18.119 --> 01:46:20.880
<v Speaker 1>push himself as a speaker. He said, yeah, my feet,

2091
01:46:20.960 --> 01:46:22.680
<v Speaker 1>he says yeah. He said, we can talk about my

2092
01:46:22.760 --> 01:46:24.279
<v Speaker 1>fee and this and that, and then I would have

2093
01:46:24.319 --> 01:46:27.239
<v Speaker 1>to have something for my father. I said, Daniel, he's autistic,

2094
01:46:27.439 --> 01:46:29.920
<v Speaker 1>so I you know, yeah, he's one of those kind

2095
01:46:29.920 --> 01:46:31.840
<v Speaker 1>of people. You need to be direct with him, you know,

2096
01:46:32.039 --> 01:46:34.399
<v Speaker 1>because I don't. I don't care if you're artistic or not.

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01:46:34.520 --> 01:46:38.239
<v Speaker 1>I got I got nieces and nephews are autistic. You know.

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01:46:38.800 --> 01:46:41.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't look down on them because they're autistic. I

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01:46:41.239 --> 01:46:44.880
<v Speaker 1>speak to them like they're normal people. And I don't

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01:46:44.960 --> 01:46:46.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't have no, I don't look at them.

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01:46:47.039 --> 01:46:47.359
<v Speaker 4>This is me.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just me. Because you're autistic. You're very smart,

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01:46:51.439 --> 01:46:52.840
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So I'm going to tell

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01:46:52.880 --> 01:46:56.199
<v Speaker 1>you like it is, you know. But I was trying.

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01:46:56.239 --> 01:46:58.640
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to be nice, man he wanted to.

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01:46:58.760 --> 01:47:00.960
<v Speaker 1>He was trying to push them, push himself in there

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01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:03.359
<v Speaker 1>to be one of my speakers. And I said I

2108
01:47:03.399 --> 01:47:05.079
<v Speaker 1>don't have room for you. I said, you come to

2109
01:47:05.199 --> 01:47:07.520
<v Speaker 1>my vent all you want. I said, I can't put

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01:47:07.560 --> 01:47:09.960
<v Speaker 1>you on a speaker list, and only for the fact that,

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01:47:10.159 --> 01:47:11.920
<v Speaker 1>like I said, if anything, I can put you on

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01:47:12.000 --> 01:47:15.560
<v Speaker 1>my Friday I said, I got space on my Friday slot.

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01:47:16.000 --> 01:47:19.279
<v Speaker 1>My speakers are mainly scheduled for Saturday. I said, I

2114
01:47:19.359 --> 01:47:22.079
<v Speaker 1>got one or two spots open for Saturday for the

2115
01:47:22.159 --> 01:47:25.359
<v Speaker 1>Friday blah blah blah. But he said yeah. Then he

2116
01:47:25.439 --> 01:47:27.960
<v Speaker 1>kept trying to push himself and he said, yeah, my fee.

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01:47:28.119 --> 01:47:30.239
<v Speaker 1>He said, you know, we can talk about my fee later.

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01:47:30.439 --> 01:47:32.600
<v Speaker 1>But I said, Daniels, I said I don't have time

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01:47:32.640 --> 01:47:36.439
<v Speaker 1>for you. I said, I had a talent straight up.

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01:47:36.600 --> 01:47:38.479
<v Speaker 1>You know, a young kid. I get that. I said,

2121
01:47:38.479 --> 01:47:40.039
<v Speaker 1>I deal with a lot of young kids, you know.

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01:47:40.079 --> 01:47:43.359
<v Speaker 1>But I know all about autism. I said, I don't

2123
01:47:43.600 --> 01:47:46.920
<v Speaker 1>look at that as a disability of some some situation,

2124
01:47:47.640 --> 01:47:49.159
<v Speaker 1>I said. I told him, I said I don't have

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01:47:49.239 --> 01:47:49.680
<v Speaker 1>money for you.

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01:47:49.920 --> 01:47:50.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't.

2127
01:47:50.319 --> 01:47:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I said, you're not in my budget, said I don't.

2128
01:47:52.640 --> 01:47:55.199
<v Speaker 1>I said, my budgets pushed to the limit already, you know.

2129
01:47:56.239 --> 01:47:58.760
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, I went on to tell him. He finally

2130
01:47:58.880 --> 01:48:01.039
<v Speaker 1>I finally got the point of grass. He's, Oh, I understand,

2131
01:48:01.079 --> 01:48:03.239
<v Speaker 1>I understand. I said, you're welcome to come up if

2132
01:48:03.239 --> 01:48:04.800
<v Speaker 1>you're going to be in the area, come up to

2133
01:48:04.840 --> 01:48:07.560
<v Speaker 1>my event, and it's end you. I'm not I'm not

2134
01:48:07.680 --> 01:48:10.720
<v Speaker 1>denying that. It said, I can't pay for nothing. I said,

2135
01:48:11.439 --> 01:48:13.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't have money for lodging, and I don't have

2136
01:48:14.119 --> 01:48:16.520
<v Speaker 1>a fee to cover you or your father. Because that's

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01:48:16.520 --> 01:48:17.920
<v Speaker 1>why he was trying to push a fee for him

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01:48:18.079 --> 01:48:23.239
<v Speaker 1>and a separate fee for his father. Oh, I don't work.

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01:48:23.319 --> 01:48:23.600
<v Speaker 4>I don't.

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01:48:23.680 --> 01:48:25.279
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't work that way. I said, you don't push

2141
01:48:25.279 --> 01:48:27.359
<v Speaker 1>your way in and try to get me to pay something.

2142
01:48:27.560 --> 01:48:30.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm not agreeing to you, you know, So

2143
01:48:31.199 --> 01:48:33.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. That's basically what he was doing. I said,

2144
01:48:33.039 --> 01:48:34.600
<v Speaker 1>I know people feel bad for him because he's not

2145
01:48:34.680 --> 01:48:36.840
<v Speaker 1>just I don't feel bad for Chester. They're smart, they're

2146
01:48:36.880 --> 01:48:39.920
<v Speaker 1>not idiots, you know. I mean, because I have I

2147
01:48:40.000 --> 01:48:43.399
<v Speaker 1>have Like again, I have a niece and a nephew.

2148
01:48:43.479 --> 01:48:46.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm both autistic. There are different types of autism. One's

2149
01:48:46.199 --> 01:48:48.800
<v Speaker 1>more extreme than the other, but I'm very familiar with

2150
01:48:48.800 --> 01:48:54.000
<v Speaker 1>autism and not how it works. Daniel Leebernard is not stupid.

2151
01:48:54.039 --> 01:48:56.199
<v Speaker 1>He's very smart, you know so.

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01:48:57.479 --> 01:48:59.560
<v Speaker 2>But I think it's you know, I think it's very

2153
01:48:59.600 --> 01:49:01.520
<v Speaker 2>wholesome that he's so into cryptosoology.

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01:49:02.159 --> 01:49:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely, But that that was a big

2155
01:49:06.880 --> 01:49:12.479
<v Speaker 1>deal with what was a gentleman's name we brought about

2156
01:49:12.520 --> 01:49:20.840
<v Speaker 1>from uh the former, Yeah, Ronan le Blanc. I've bet

2157
01:49:20.920 --> 01:49:24.199
<v Speaker 1>he discussions with Ronie LeBlanc. Yeah, he's from Massachusetts and

2158
01:49:24.239 --> 01:49:26.760
<v Speaker 1>he wanted to come down to my event. He was

2159
01:49:27.039 --> 01:49:32.439
<v Speaker 1>he emailed me presenting, Hey, if you know, he was

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01:49:32.520 --> 01:49:35.399
<v Speaker 1>thrown out his fees. If I was just a ten

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01:49:36.279 --> 01:49:39.119
<v Speaker 1>three thousand dollars, if I speak, it was over five

2162
01:49:39.159 --> 01:49:41.399
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars. I was a man, that'd be great, But

2163
01:49:41.560 --> 01:49:44.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a budget for you, Like I don't.

2164
01:49:44.199 --> 01:49:46.359
<v Speaker 1>I was being honest with him, dude, I was like,

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01:49:46.479 --> 01:49:47.840
<v Speaker 1>it would be great to have you. I think you

2166
01:49:47.840 --> 01:49:50.840
<v Speaker 1>would be a great you know, asset that after my event.

2167
01:49:50.960 --> 01:49:54.039
<v Speaker 1>But I was being honest. I said, I don't have

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01:49:54.199 --> 01:49:58.119
<v Speaker 1>budgets like these other commercialized events. You know. I said,

2169
01:49:58.239 --> 01:50:01.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm a low budget you know, blah blah blah, I say,

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01:50:01.239 --> 01:50:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I would love to have you, but I said, I

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01:50:02.960 --> 01:50:04.680
<v Speaker 1>don't have a few. I don't have the money for you.

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01:50:04.960 --> 01:50:09.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, Hey, he was clear, he was understanding. But yeah,

2173
01:50:09.960 --> 01:50:13.039
<v Speaker 1>he presented himself. He knew about me. He used to

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01:50:13.039 --> 01:50:14.680
<v Speaker 1>be on my Facebook page. But you know what, he

2175
01:50:14.800 --> 01:50:21.760
<v Speaker 1>blocked me because he supposed a lot of ship on

2176
01:50:21.880 --> 01:50:25.319
<v Speaker 1>his page, promoting some bogus bullshit. I ain't gonna lie.

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01:50:26.199 --> 01:50:29.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not afraid of He's promoting stuff and putting out

2178
01:50:29.600 --> 01:50:33.000
<v Speaker 1>these images that were clearly BS, and I would use

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01:50:33.079 --> 01:50:35.880
<v Speaker 1>to comment under it. He didn't like my comments because

2180
01:50:35.880 --> 01:50:39.039
<v Speaker 1>I would show stuff to prove otherwise, to prove that differently.

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01:50:40.079 --> 01:50:43.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh my, Yeah, he didn't like that, so it kind

2182
01:50:43.399 --> 01:50:45.720
<v Speaker 1>of shut me down against him, so he blocked me

2183
01:50:45.800 --> 01:50:48.880
<v Speaker 1>from my comments. I can't do that.

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01:50:49.920 --> 01:50:53.359
<v Speaker 2>A lot of the researchers are posting ds and going,

2185
01:50:53.399 --> 01:50:53.960
<v Speaker 2>oh it's real.

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01:50:55.560 --> 01:50:57.960
<v Speaker 1>They want the attention, they want the credibility. You're not

2187
01:50:58.039 --> 01:51:02.079
<v Speaker 1>going to get credibility from post bullshit, fake ship all less,

2188
01:51:02.119 --> 01:51:05.039
<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, because but then again, these people, they

2189
01:51:05.119 --> 01:51:07.600
<v Speaker 1>know that a majority of people on Facebook and social

2190
01:51:07.640 --> 01:51:10.960
<v Speaker 1>media are global. I'm gonna believe anything you vote because

2191
01:51:10.960 --> 01:51:14.439
<v Speaker 1>you were on a TV show, excuse me. I'm sorry,

2192
01:51:14.520 --> 01:51:15.079
<v Speaker 1>but fuck you.

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01:51:18.199 --> 01:51:18.479
<v Speaker 4>Nice.

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01:51:19.399 --> 01:51:21.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't care what show you were on. Doesn't give

2195
01:51:21.319 --> 01:51:25.079
<v Speaker 1>you credibility, you know, you know, I mean that's my opinion.

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01:51:25.920 --> 01:51:28.159
<v Speaker 1>You can be a Hollywood movie star, it's not gonna

2197
01:51:28.199 --> 01:51:32.279
<v Speaker 1>give you credibility. I don't. I don't like that.

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01:51:33.720 --> 01:51:35.720
<v Speaker 2>But Danny came at me with that one time too,

2199
01:51:35.800 --> 01:51:38.079
<v Speaker 2>telling me, well, I was on a TV show. So

2200
01:51:38.199 --> 01:51:40.439
<v Speaker 2>I told him, well, gaze upon the field which I

2201
01:51:40.520 --> 01:51:43.720
<v Speaker 2>harvest my fucks, and notice it is barren. You didn't

2202
01:51:43.760 --> 01:51:47.960
<v Speaker 2>like that too much? No, who is just now Todd standing?

2203
01:51:49.000 --> 01:51:50.399
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Oh my goodness.

2204
01:51:50.960 --> 01:51:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I called him a fraud in his comments.

2205
01:51:53.800 --> 01:51:55.359
<v Speaker 2>I was like, you're such a fraud dude.

2206
01:51:57.359 --> 01:52:01.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean you remember it was I don't know,

2207
01:52:01.239 --> 01:52:03.439
<v Speaker 1>maybe five a few years ago, five years ago, give

2208
01:52:03.520 --> 01:52:06.479
<v Speaker 1>or take. Wasn't he trying to go to the courts

2209
01:52:06.479 --> 01:52:08.560
<v Speaker 1>and trying to prove bigfo its existence, that he was

2210
01:52:08.640 --> 01:52:11.960
<v Speaker 1>some whatever He have only had some DNA to prove otherwise.

2211
01:52:12.000 --> 01:52:13.920
<v Speaker 1>But didn't want to hear him.

2212
01:52:14.600 --> 01:52:17.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so heed he laughed out of court. Though he

2213
01:52:17.319 --> 01:52:18.199
<v Speaker 2>won't tell you that much.

2214
01:52:20.359 --> 01:52:23.479
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean, I would love for somebody to

2215
01:52:23.520 --> 01:52:25.319
<v Speaker 1>come out and show something like that. I don't care

2216
01:52:25.359 --> 01:52:29.079
<v Speaker 1>if a Bigfoot got proven to be an addiction species.

2217
01:52:29.119 --> 01:52:31.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean a lot of it know that he does exist,

2218
01:52:31.399 --> 01:52:34.359
<v Speaker 1>but to take it to court, I mean, I mean,

2219
01:52:35.079 --> 01:52:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I would love for someone. I would love for Bigfoot

2220
01:52:38.000 --> 01:52:41.319
<v Speaker 1>to become known as an existent species for the main reasons.

2221
01:52:41.720 --> 01:52:44.680
<v Speaker 1>But the main reason is to shut people up the

2222
01:52:44.760 --> 01:52:48.159
<v Speaker 1>skeptic you know, you know, just like any other crypti

2223
01:52:48.199 --> 01:52:50.720
<v Speaker 1>that people want to put out there. I mean, too

2224
01:52:50.760 --> 01:52:53.680
<v Speaker 1>many people Bigfoot, the subject to Bigfoot a loan is

2225
01:52:53.720 --> 01:52:55.439
<v Speaker 1>a laughing subject to so many people.

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01:52:55.960 --> 01:52:58.399
<v Speaker 2>It shouldn't be, though, Daniel, it really shouldn't be. And

2227
01:52:58.479 --> 01:53:00.720
<v Speaker 2>like I tell, so many people, you laugh at the

2228
01:53:00.800 --> 01:53:04.359
<v Speaker 2>possibility of cryptids like Bigfoot or chupacabra or something along

2229
01:53:04.439 --> 01:53:07.119
<v Speaker 2>those lines. But some known animals that we know these

2230
01:53:07.199 --> 01:53:11.239
<v Speaker 2>day were once considered cryptids. Case in points right, mountain

2231
01:53:11.279 --> 01:53:14.279
<v Speaker 2>girl is, mountain grills were once considered cryptids, the old copy,

2232
01:53:14.439 --> 01:53:18.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, platypus, the panda bear, those were all considered

2233
01:53:18.680 --> 01:53:21.600
<v Speaker 2>cryptids many years ago. And look, Lon and behold, they're

2234
01:53:21.640 --> 01:53:22.960
<v Speaker 2>proven to be real. You can see them in your

2235
01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:26.439
<v Speaker 2>local zoo. So people should lafact at all. The concept

2236
01:53:26.479 --> 01:53:30.119
<v Speaker 2>of cryptids shouldn't be laughable by any means exactly.

2237
01:53:30.640 --> 01:53:32.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean they don't see that's the thing. They don't

2238
01:53:32.560 --> 01:53:35.800
<v Speaker 1>know the history of what we know today, right, I mean,

2239
01:53:37.000 --> 01:53:39.479
<v Speaker 1>I mean back it was back in the forties, nineteen

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01:53:39.520 --> 01:53:42.720
<v Speaker 1>fifties people in the United States when they first started

2241
01:53:42.720 --> 01:53:46.520
<v Speaker 1>seeing these, you know, when gorillas or starting seeing Yeah,

2242
01:53:46.560 --> 01:53:48.960
<v Speaker 1>they were quite all these are like large human like

2243
01:53:49.039 --> 01:53:53.279
<v Speaker 1>you're looking creatures. Yep, but yeah, that was you know,

2244
01:53:53.399 --> 01:53:56.079
<v Speaker 1>the history of grill and just grill is alone, you know,

2245
01:53:56.319 --> 01:53:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they were like human creatures.

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01:54:00.640 --> 01:54:03.039
<v Speaker 2>I think it's because there's so many stories attached, you know,

2247
01:54:03.159 --> 01:54:05.560
<v Speaker 2>like with the Bigfoot stories and the dog man stories.

2248
01:54:05.600 --> 01:54:08.479
<v Speaker 2>It takes on a very supernatural feel. And that's fine.

2249
01:54:08.640 --> 01:54:11.279
<v Speaker 2>They shouldn't laugh at it, because you know, once upon

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01:54:11.319 --> 01:54:15.000
<v Speaker 2>a time there is natives telling the scientists, Oh, there's

2251
01:54:15.039 --> 01:54:17.880
<v Speaker 2>this creature that has fur, has a duck bill, but

2252
01:54:17.960 --> 01:54:20.760
<v Speaker 2>it lays eggs, and they're going, oh, a fur burying

2253
01:54:20.800 --> 01:54:23.399
<v Speaker 2>memmal that lays eggs, and I well, and behold, duck

2254
01:54:23.439 --> 01:54:25.560
<v Speaker 2>built platypus is a real thing. So it's like, see,

2255
01:54:25.640 --> 01:54:28.800
<v Speaker 2>they brought with a supernatural thing too, and it didn't exist,

2256
01:54:28.880 --> 01:54:31.159
<v Speaker 2>and here it is a very very real.

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01:54:31.000 --> 01:54:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Thing exactly exactly.

2258
01:54:35.239 --> 01:54:39.159
<v Speaker 3>I mean, no problem you got nowadays is too everything

2259
01:54:39.239 --> 01:54:42.439
<v Speaker 3>is so dag on fast faces last to fifteen years

2260
01:54:43.119 --> 01:54:45.720
<v Speaker 3>that people don't have time to sit back, relax and

2261
01:54:45.920 --> 01:54:47.079
<v Speaker 3>take life for what it is.

2262
01:54:47.399 --> 01:54:51.399
<v Speaker 4>They're too tight etronics or phoned and everything else.

2263
01:54:51.479 --> 01:54:53.600
<v Speaker 3>And if you try to take them out of the norm,

2264
01:54:53.720 --> 01:54:55.520
<v Speaker 3>then they don't want to be taken out of their norm.

2265
01:54:55.800 --> 01:54:58.560
<v Speaker 4>If you take them out of their norm, their life's.

2266
01:54:58.279 --> 01:55:00.000
<v Speaker 3>Gonna be turned upside down and they don't want to

2267
01:55:00.159 --> 01:55:04.119
<v Speaker 3>have the possibility of facing that right right exactly, just

2268
01:55:04.199 --> 01:55:06.800
<v Speaker 3>like the government UFOs now, I mean when they was

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01:55:06.840 --> 01:55:11.159
<v Speaker 3>having those congressional hearings stuff pertaining the UFOs.

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01:55:12.159 --> 01:55:14.000
<v Speaker 4>Want to be taken out of the norm. I mean

2271
01:55:14.119 --> 01:55:15.239
<v Speaker 4>it was taboo.

2272
01:55:15.039 --> 01:55:17.840
<v Speaker 3>Fifty years ago and Roswell and all that other stuff,

2273
01:55:17.880 --> 01:55:20.520
<v Speaker 3>and now they're talking about it. It's like it's like

2274
01:55:20.600 --> 01:55:23.039
<v Speaker 3>to try to feed information now, is what it's trying.

2275
01:55:23.239 --> 01:55:26.760
<v Speaker 3>So when the day does come to where possibly that's

2276
01:55:26.880 --> 01:55:28.760
<v Speaker 3>going to come to life, where they are real and

2277
01:55:28.800 --> 01:55:32.159
<v Speaker 3>they're here aliens and so on and so forth, and

2278
01:55:32.399 --> 01:55:35.399
<v Speaker 3>maybe people may not panic like they did when Orson

2279
01:55:35.399 --> 01:55:40.720
<v Speaker 3>Wales played his radio show back in the world. Yeah, yeah,

2280
01:55:41.479 --> 01:55:44.479
<v Speaker 3>you know, but I mean people don't want to be

2281
01:55:44.520 --> 01:55:45.840
<v Speaker 3>taken out of the norm. They don't want to get

2282
01:55:45.840 --> 01:55:47.720
<v Speaker 3>off the couch, they don't want to put down that

2283
01:55:47.840 --> 01:55:50.479
<v Speaker 3>bag on phone. They don't go out and enjoy wildlife

2284
01:55:50.520 --> 01:55:52.680
<v Speaker 3>and experience, you know, life what it has to offer,

2285
01:55:52.760 --> 01:55:56.600
<v Speaker 3>and it's it's it's the same, I think, you know, I.

2286
01:55:56.600 --> 01:55:58.319
<v Speaker 2>Don't see they can live without it. I mean, if

2287
01:55:58.359 --> 01:56:00.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't go into the woods at least once a way,

2288
01:56:00.239 --> 01:56:01.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm just going crazy.

2289
01:56:02.640 --> 01:56:05.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I wish I'd get up more than that. But now.

2290
01:56:09.359 --> 01:56:11.439
<v Speaker 2>There's no woods in Arizona. I guess there are, and

2291
01:56:11.520 --> 01:56:15.399
<v Speaker 2>there's plenty of them. There's plenty. We have the mogi

2292
01:56:15.520 --> 01:56:18.479
<v Speaker 2>On Rim and well them has the mogi On Monster,

2293
01:56:18.560 --> 01:56:19.359
<v Speaker 2>which is a big foot.

2294
01:56:19.479 --> 01:56:25.199
<v Speaker 1>So well, yeah, that's interesting you bring that up because

2295
01:56:25.199 --> 01:56:27.199
<v Speaker 1>there was an old Oh my gosh, I wish I

2296
01:56:27.279 --> 01:56:29.960
<v Speaker 1>remember the poor guy's names. He was a much older gentleman.

2297
01:56:30.039 --> 01:56:32.439
<v Speaker 1>He had passed away some years ago. He was big

2298
01:56:32.479 --> 01:56:35.159
<v Speaker 1>into the Mogion monster that he did a lot of

2299
01:56:35.239 --> 01:56:40.239
<v Speaker 1>research on. Yeah, I wish I remember the poor guy's name.

2300
01:56:40.840 --> 01:56:44.079
<v Speaker 1>I spoke to him once or twice in the past. Uh.

2301
01:56:44.279 --> 01:56:46.880
<v Speaker 1>He may even been on an old podcast some years

2302
01:56:46.880 --> 01:56:49.920
<v Speaker 1>ago of mine. But I know a good friend of

2303
01:56:49.960 --> 01:56:54.159
<v Speaker 1>mine that lives in Texas, uh Nikki Cologne. She's actually

2304
01:56:54.239 --> 01:56:59.479
<v Speaker 1>done some research with him or interviewed him herself. But yeah,

2305
01:56:59.600 --> 01:57:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I really believe that he was on something. Yeah, I

2306
01:57:04.039 --> 01:57:06.520
<v Speaker 1>think he was from Man. I wish I would remember

2307
01:57:06.640 --> 01:57:09.159
<v Speaker 1>his name. It's sad that I can't remember certain names.

2308
01:57:09.239 --> 01:57:11.840
<v Speaker 1>He was an old timer, been around for a long time.

2309
01:57:12.119 --> 01:57:14.760
<v Speaker 1>And uh, but yeah, again he had passed away some

2310
01:57:14.920 --> 01:57:18.319
<v Speaker 1>years ago, but uh, he was very well much involved

2311
01:57:18.319 --> 01:57:22.279
<v Speaker 1>with that, so yeah, I can't remember.

2312
01:57:23.600 --> 01:57:26.800
<v Speaker 4>Rather, did you really search independent? You belong?

2313
01:57:27.079 --> 01:57:29.039
<v Speaker 3>Do you have a group or groups or do you

2314
01:57:29.159 --> 01:57:31.119
<v Speaker 3>belong in the groups to go out with or you're

2315
01:57:31.159 --> 01:57:33.159
<v Speaker 3>just independent doing what independent?

2316
01:57:33.600 --> 01:57:35.800
<v Speaker 2>I prefer to go out independently because too many people

2317
01:57:35.880 --> 01:57:38.880
<v Speaker 2>mess around, and when I do my research, I'm very

2318
01:57:39.039 --> 01:57:41.840
<v Speaker 2>very serious about it. I don't want people ruining things.

2319
01:57:41.880 --> 01:57:44.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't want people creating, you know, hoaxes or whatever.

2320
01:57:44.600 --> 01:57:46.119
<v Speaker 2>I just want to do my thing and see if

2321
01:57:46.119 --> 01:57:48.439
<v Speaker 2>I can find some evidence. So I'll occasionally take a

2322
01:57:48.520 --> 01:57:50.760
<v Speaker 2>friend with me if I can trust that friend, but

2323
01:57:51.039 --> 01:57:51.960
<v Speaker 2>usually it's independent.

2324
01:57:52.960 --> 01:57:54.760
<v Speaker 4>Well that's what Dan does with the camp out.

2325
01:57:54.840 --> 01:57:56.920
<v Speaker 3>So we must keep it quiet that people know that

2326
01:57:57.039 --> 01:57:59.319
<v Speaker 3>the camp out coming up and nobody knows where, you know,

2327
01:57:59.359 --> 01:58:02.199
<v Speaker 3>where we're going to be stuff like that, and give

2328
01:58:02.239 --> 01:58:04.800
<v Speaker 3>with Daniel maybe be invited after that part.

2329
01:58:04.880 --> 01:58:06.079
<v Speaker 4>So I mean, that's the way I like to keep

2330
01:58:06.079 --> 01:58:07.279
<v Speaker 4>it too. That way you don't have the.

2331
01:58:07.399 --> 01:58:10.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've been fortunate. You know, some of my friends

2332
01:58:10.520 --> 01:58:13.199
<v Speaker 2>are very open minded and they're very supportive. So because

2333
01:58:13.279 --> 01:58:15.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm into it, they're into it as well. And they

2334
01:58:15.520 --> 01:58:18.239
<v Speaker 2>know I'm very serious, so you know, the last questions

2335
01:58:18.279 --> 01:58:20.079
<v Speaker 2>on what to look for, and they'll show me stuff

2336
01:58:20.079 --> 01:58:22.239
<v Speaker 2>that they think might be evident. So I have looked

2337
01:58:22.239 --> 01:58:25.520
<v Speaker 2>out some really good friends and I'll think that's good. Yeah,

2338
01:58:25.600 --> 01:58:27.119
<v Speaker 2>I'll take them with me, and you know, they're very

2339
01:58:27.119 --> 01:58:29.520
<v Speaker 2>excited to be there. So once in a while I'll

2340
01:58:29.520 --> 01:58:30.960
<v Speaker 2>be like, hey, you guys want to go. Most of

2341
01:58:30.960 --> 01:58:32.279
<v Speaker 2>the time I go buy myself though.

2342
01:58:33.199 --> 01:58:37.119
<v Speaker 1>Right, let's see that like what David was saying, like

2343
01:58:37.319 --> 01:58:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I was, I'm just kind of starting to like I've

2344
01:58:40.960 --> 01:58:43.239
<v Speaker 1>been doing the group camp outs for some years now,

2345
01:58:43.520 --> 01:58:48.199
<v Speaker 1>and uh, like I'll message people now like I I'm

2346
01:58:48.239 --> 01:58:50.760
<v Speaker 1>at the point where I don't want to advertise that, hey,

2347
01:58:50.960 --> 01:58:52.720
<v Speaker 1>I got a group camp out coming up in such

2348
01:58:52.760 --> 01:58:58.560
<v Speaker 1>and such. I'll I'll invite people privately, now, you know. Yeah,

2349
01:58:58.960 --> 01:59:01.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean I want to promote to bring other people

2350
01:59:01.239 --> 01:59:03.319
<v Speaker 1>in there, because at the same time, I want to

2351
01:59:03.319 --> 01:59:05.560
<v Speaker 1>be able to educate people. There's people that don't get

2352
01:59:05.640 --> 01:59:07.880
<v Speaker 1>out that much, you know, and that want to get

2353
01:59:07.920 --> 01:59:10.000
<v Speaker 1>involved with this, and I'm like, I'm all for them.

2354
01:59:10.119 --> 01:59:14.239
<v Speaker 1>I welcome. I'm pretty open much to welcome anybody that

2355
01:59:14.319 --> 01:59:18.720
<v Speaker 1>wants to get involved, you know. But so, yeah, somebody wants.

2356
01:59:19.000 --> 01:59:22.359
<v Speaker 1>That's why I was I was charging a fee for

2357
01:59:22.439 --> 01:59:23.119
<v Speaker 1>people to come out.

2358
01:59:24.000 --> 01:59:24.119
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

2359
01:59:24.239 --> 01:59:26.119
<v Speaker 1>And the reason and the reason behind that because a

2360
01:59:26.119 --> 01:59:27.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of people are like, oh, you shouldn't charge people

2361
01:59:27.640 --> 01:59:29.359
<v Speaker 1>to come up. I do it because I feel like

2362
01:59:29.439 --> 01:59:34.000
<v Speaker 1>it helps eliminate the possible hopes. Yes, well, I hopes

2363
01:59:34.000 --> 01:59:36.960
<v Speaker 1>are paid this money to come out there, and and

2364
01:59:37.880 --> 01:59:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I hope you know. I mean, that's the way I

2365
01:59:40.079 --> 01:59:42.039
<v Speaker 1>look at it. That's the only reason I was charging

2366
01:59:42.399 --> 01:59:43.720
<v Speaker 1>a fee for certain people.

2367
01:59:44.039 --> 01:59:46.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, you kind of charge like that one guy,

2368
01:59:46.760 --> 01:59:49.560
<v Speaker 2>what's his name, doctor something, who thinks a big foot

2369
01:59:49.640 --> 01:59:50.159
<v Speaker 2>or the zanu.

2370
01:59:51.920 --> 01:59:55.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure who that who's that I forgot what

2371
01:59:55.199 --> 01:59:55.720
<v Speaker 1>his name.

2372
01:59:55.760 --> 01:59:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Is, but uh, he thinks that bigfoot are a type

2373
01:59:58.760 --> 02:00:01.640
<v Speaker 2>of alien or whatever. And that the X structures we

2374
02:00:01.720 --> 02:00:04.800
<v Speaker 2>find are because they're known as Zanu. It's just it's

2375
02:00:04.960 --> 02:00:05.800
<v Speaker 2>it's weird stuff.

2376
02:00:05.880 --> 02:00:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Man.

2377
02:00:06.039 --> 02:00:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Once you get down that rabbit hole, you're gonna be like, oh,

2378
02:00:08.000 --> 02:00:09.119
<v Speaker 2>good lord, what have I done.

2379
02:00:11.680 --> 02:00:13.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not familiar with that. I'm not.

2380
02:00:16.199 --> 02:00:18.600
<v Speaker 2>I'll send you some stuff on Facebook, Daniel, But oh

2381
02:00:18.680 --> 02:00:22.800
<v Speaker 2>my goodness, his followers are so devoted. Yeah, there's supposed

2382
02:00:22.800 --> 02:00:24.640
<v Speaker 2>to be two different type of bigfoot. Ones is Zanu

2383
02:00:24.720 --> 02:00:26.960
<v Speaker 2>and I forgot the other ones in the called. But yeah,

2384
02:00:27.000 --> 02:00:29.439
<v Speaker 2>that's why they leave the X structures because they're leaving

2385
02:00:29.479 --> 02:00:31.439
<v Speaker 2>their name. They're calling card and I'm just going, oh,

2386
02:00:31.520 --> 02:00:34.000
<v Speaker 2>good lord, come on, stop with this already.

2387
02:00:35.439 --> 02:00:37.520
<v Speaker 1>No, it's funny to bring it up to one of

2388
02:00:37.600 --> 02:00:42.640
<v Speaker 1>my speakers that I have for June this year. And

2389
02:00:42.920 --> 02:00:46.039
<v Speaker 1>I know this guy. I met him, I've had him

2390
02:00:46.399 --> 02:00:48.520
<v Speaker 1>like when I was up in Pennsylvania, i met him

2391
02:00:48.520 --> 02:00:51.039
<v Speaker 1>in person. I'm sure I've heard his stories on a

2392
02:00:51.079 --> 02:00:55.359
<v Speaker 1>few occasions. I've actually when I hosted small events up there,

2393
02:00:55.439 --> 02:00:57.640
<v Speaker 1>I had him at you know, speaking of these small engagements,

2394
02:00:57.680 --> 02:00:59.720
<v Speaker 1>and then when I hosted my big event up there,

2395
02:01:00.279 --> 02:01:04.800
<v Speaker 1>he was also one of my Now he has claimed

2396
02:01:05.079 --> 02:01:09.279
<v Speaker 1>I feel he is legit. However, you know, he he

2397
02:01:09.399 --> 02:01:12.640
<v Speaker 1>has UFO experiences very up close. But at the same

2398
02:01:12.680 --> 02:01:17.119
<v Speaker 1>time he yeah, but he's also a bigfoot I witnessed,

2399
02:01:17.439 --> 02:01:19.760
<v Speaker 1>and he's actually brought me and my old girlfriend to

2400
02:01:19.760 --> 02:01:22.720
<v Speaker 1>the locations where he's actually witnessed the scene the bigfoot.

2401
02:01:22.880 --> 02:01:26.199
<v Speaker 1>But but that be said, I mean, he believes that

2402
02:01:26.279 --> 02:01:30.600
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot is not a deserve So, I mean, that's not

2403
02:01:30.720 --> 02:01:32.600
<v Speaker 1>the first time I've heard of such a thing. But

2404
02:01:33.600 --> 02:01:36.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, so anyway, I'm curious, you know, Like I said,

2405
02:01:36.920 --> 02:01:38.960
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be one of my speakers in June. His

2406
02:01:39.079 --> 02:01:44.000
<v Speaker 1>name is John and again he's from Pennsylvania. Now I

2407
02:01:44.119 --> 02:01:46.359
<v Speaker 1>know I can tell you for a first st experience.

2408
02:01:46.399 --> 02:01:48.800
<v Speaker 1>I know Pennsylvania has some weird stuff up here. I've

2409
02:01:48.840 --> 02:01:51.359
<v Speaker 1>seen some weird things for myself, I can't claim yet,

2410
02:01:52.399 --> 02:01:55.399
<v Speaker 1>but so it is what it is. I'm not gonna

2411
02:01:55.439 --> 02:01:58.079
<v Speaker 1>say I was seeing things because I saw what I saw,

2412
02:01:58.199 --> 02:02:01.039
<v Speaker 1>and I know what I saw. I just I've never

2413
02:02:01.119 --> 02:02:03.640
<v Speaker 1>seen what I've seen up there. I've never seen anywhere

2414
02:02:03.680 --> 02:02:06.199
<v Speaker 1>else like the weird flashing lights in the woods on

2415
02:02:06.359 --> 02:02:09.000
<v Speaker 1>more than one occasions up there, So I when I

2416
02:02:09.079 --> 02:02:10.960
<v Speaker 1>were seeing but it was crazy.

2417
02:02:11.760 --> 02:02:15.119
<v Speaker 2>UFO is being seen alongside bigfoot. That's something we can't ignore.

2418
02:02:15.199 --> 02:02:18.199
<v Speaker 2>We're doing another disservice if we just ignore that. But

2419
02:02:18.319 --> 02:02:21.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that bigfoot are extraterrestrials. I don't bind

2420
02:02:21.079 --> 02:02:23.319
<v Speaker 2>to that theory completely, right.

2421
02:02:24.399 --> 02:02:28.399
<v Speaker 1>I agree, I agree, I think I think, right off

2422
02:02:28.399 --> 02:02:29.560
<v Speaker 1>the top of the head, I think it's just a

2423
02:02:29.640 --> 02:02:34.000
<v Speaker 1>coincidence that, you know, these these aircraft are seeing happened

2424
02:02:34.000 --> 02:02:36.439
<v Speaker 1>to be spotted in here, we're bigfoots being seen, you know.

2425
02:02:37.159 --> 02:02:43.439
<v Speaker 2>So coincidences, yeah, absolutely, but to proven otherwise?

2426
02:02:43.520 --> 02:02:43.840
<v Speaker 4>Who though?

2427
02:02:44.000 --> 02:02:44.119
<v Speaker 3>You know?

2428
02:02:45.039 --> 02:02:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Sure, I mean, we might all be wrong, you know,

2429
02:02:47.279 --> 02:02:49.920
<v Speaker 2>with all the theories we have. Who knows, maybe one

2430
02:02:50.000 --> 02:02:51.800
<v Speaker 2>day we'll find a real Bigfoot and we'll be like,

2431
02:02:51.840 --> 02:02:54.560
<v Speaker 2>oh crap, we were all wrong, every single one of us.

2432
02:02:56.600 --> 02:02:57.119
<v Speaker 2>How about that.

2433
02:02:58.319 --> 02:03:01.319
<v Speaker 1>Well, hopefully that can speak Hopefully you can speak English

2434
02:03:01.359 --> 02:03:03.560
<v Speaker 1>of us, and we could talk from where are you from?

2435
02:03:03.960 --> 02:03:06.119
<v Speaker 1>I am from the planet Neptune.

2436
02:03:12.920 --> 02:03:15.920
<v Speaker 7>That you were talking about that doctor Zanu.

2437
02:03:16.279 --> 02:03:18.119
<v Speaker 4>It's doctor Matthew A. Johnson.

2438
02:03:18.680 --> 02:03:22.560
<v Speaker 1>That's the one Matthew Johnson. Oh my goodness, that's a

2439
02:03:22.600 --> 02:03:24.000
<v Speaker 1>whole different subject in herself.

2440
02:03:24.960 --> 02:03:25.520
<v Speaker 4>I know him.

2441
02:03:26.359 --> 02:03:28.239
<v Speaker 2>I went down that rabbit hole and thank god, I

2442
02:03:28.319 --> 02:03:30.319
<v Speaker 2>tied that rope around my waist. As I climbed right

2443
02:03:30.359 --> 02:03:32.279
<v Speaker 2>out of it, I was like, I'm done, I'm out

2444
02:03:32.279 --> 02:03:32.439
<v Speaker 2>of here.

2445
02:03:32.520 --> 02:03:39.079
<v Speaker 1>See you. Oh are you familiar Amazon? Oh talk about

2446
02:03:39.119 --> 02:03:44.199
<v Speaker 1>Matthew Johnson. Oh my gosh, he's a psychologist. Yeah, yeah,

2447
02:03:44.640 --> 02:03:47.720
<v Speaker 1>he's that's where he gets his doctor's degree. He's a psychologist.

2448
02:03:47.840 --> 02:03:50.119
<v Speaker 1>But that same indivision. I don't know how much of

2449
02:03:50.119 --> 02:03:53.279
<v Speaker 1>a history you guys know on him, but Matthew Johnson

2450
02:03:53.399 --> 02:03:55.399
<v Speaker 1>is the same guy that claims to have the portals

2451
02:03:55.439 --> 02:04:00.840
<v Speaker 1>on his property and the watchers and the portal keepers

2452
02:04:00.920 --> 02:04:04.439
<v Speaker 1>in the guardians. And he even convinced one of his

2453
02:04:04.560 --> 02:04:08.600
<v Speaker 1>followers that, hey, stop taking your medication. Bigfoot will heal

2454
02:04:08.640 --> 02:04:12.000
<v Speaker 1>your prostate or whatever issue you have because he claims

2455
02:04:12.000 --> 02:04:15.239
<v Speaker 1>a bigfoot. Heel just frustrate. And there's one guy that

2456
02:04:15.399 --> 02:04:18.239
<v Speaker 1>was convinced so much stop taking his heart medication ends

2457
02:04:18.279 --> 02:04:21.199
<v Speaker 1>up dying and you're not long after taking his stopped

2458
02:04:21.239 --> 02:04:26.079
<v Speaker 1>taking into medication. Oh my god. Later on. Yeah, he

2459
02:04:26.159 --> 02:04:29.159
<v Speaker 1>basically that's basically when he That's the way I looked

2460
02:04:29.159 --> 02:04:31.159
<v Speaker 1>at it. He became a cult leader. Yep.

2461
02:04:31.319 --> 02:04:34.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's like we said the same thing at

2462
02:04:34.079 --> 02:04:34.680
<v Speaker 2>the same time.

2463
02:04:37.600 --> 02:04:40.199
<v Speaker 1>But Yeah, that's the that's the truth behind Matthew Johnson.

2464
02:04:40.319 --> 02:04:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Doctor Matthew Johnson. Yeah, he convinced people not stop taking

2465
02:04:43.680 --> 02:04:44.199
<v Speaker 1>the message.

2466
02:04:44.319 --> 02:04:46.319
<v Speaker 2>Guy, you could have warned me about this before I

2467
02:04:46.399 --> 02:04:48.479
<v Speaker 2>dive down that rabbit hole, because I climbed out going

2468
02:04:48.560 --> 02:04:51.720
<v Speaker 2>what the hell? I was so confused and dizzy by

2469
02:04:51.800 --> 02:04:53.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, I just don't want to touch this

2470
02:04:53.479 --> 02:04:54.720
<v Speaker 2>with a twenty foot pole anymore.

2471
02:04:54.800 --> 02:04:58.439
<v Speaker 1>Man. See, well, it sounds like it sounds like you survived,

2472
02:04:58.479 --> 02:05:03.159
<v Speaker 1>though you're still alive ron et cetera. In Migraine.

2473
02:05:03.199 --> 02:05:05.359
<v Speaker 2>Man, I had the biggest headache ever, and I was going,

2474
02:05:05.479 --> 02:05:07.560
<v Speaker 2>oh my god. People are crazy.

2475
02:05:08.600 --> 02:05:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

2476
02:05:11.319 --> 02:05:16.720
<v Speaker 4>I mean, he just talking about it and writing books.

2477
02:05:18.159 --> 02:05:21.319
<v Speaker 1>He's just talking about it, and he had people convinced

2478
02:05:21.960 --> 02:05:24.960
<v Speaker 1>so much. They again, he had people convinced so much

2479
02:05:25.000 --> 02:05:30.039
<v Speaker 1>that he had one guy quit his medication for his heart, Like, hey,

2480
02:05:30.279 --> 02:05:33.760
<v Speaker 1>he convinced people that they will heal you, I mean,

2481
02:05:34.000 --> 02:05:37.960
<v Speaker 1>and Matthew Johnson claimed that. Yeah, Matthew Johnson claimed that

2482
02:05:38.079 --> 02:05:42.640
<v Speaker 1>they healed his prostate. Oh yeah, yeah.

2483
02:05:43.319 --> 02:05:44.600
<v Speaker 4>One book on Amazon?

2484
02:05:46.199 --> 02:05:46.479
<v Speaker 1>Wow?

2485
02:05:49.279 --> 02:05:49.680
<v Speaker 4>Anymore?

2486
02:05:49.760 --> 02:05:52.359
<v Speaker 7>But he's got at least one book on Amazon.

2487
02:05:54.720 --> 02:05:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Okay, either he's been quiet for quite some time or

2488
02:05:57.319 --> 02:05:59.399
<v Speaker 1>he blocked me. I don't know. I haven't even seen

2489
02:05:59.479 --> 02:06:02.439
<v Speaker 1>his post or anything for a long time.

2490
02:06:02.439 --> 02:06:08.159
<v Speaker 2>So he totally blocked me. I asked him, do the

2491
02:06:08.600 --> 02:06:11.760
<v Speaker 2>talk to the vulcans at all? He got so mad

2492
02:06:11.760 --> 02:06:12.439
<v Speaker 2>at me he blocked me.

2493
02:06:12.439 --> 02:06:20.199
<v Speaker 1>I was like, yes, yeah, so again I haven't even

2494
02:06:20.239 --> 02:06:22.720
<v Speaker 1>looked at I haven't. I forgot all about him because

2495
02:06:22.760 --> 02:06:26.039
<v Speaker 1>I just again, if he's still around, even he blocked me,

2496
02:06:26.119 --> 02:06:28.479
<v Speaker 1>because I don't see no post from him. The last

2497
02:06:28.479 --> 02:06:31.920
<v Speaker 1>thing I can recall is that he had this long,

2498
02:06:32.119 --> 02:06:34.880
<v Speaker 1>giant turd going across the tailgate of a truck.

2499
02:06:35.439 --> 02:06:35.640
<v Speaker 2>YEP.

2500
02:06:35.760 --> 02:06:40.840
<v Speaker 1>That's supposed he came from a big foot yep. Okay, yes, yeah,

2501
02:06:41.279 --> 02:06:43.439
<v Speaker 1>so that that was the last thing I can recall

2502
02:06:43.640 --> 02:06:47.399
<v Speaker 1>or remember seeing from him. Are you serious?

2503
02:06:47.800 --> 02:06:50.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, oh, ironic, Daniel, The last thing you saw

2504
02:06:50.039 --> 02:06:50.920
<v Speaker 2>from him was ship.

2505
02:06:51.720 --> 02:06:57.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, a big long turd going across the tailgate

2506
02:06:57.520 --> 02:06:58.279
<v Speaker 1>of a pickup truck.

2507
02:06:59.399 --> 02:07:00.960
<v Speaker 2>That's all right there.

2508
02:07:03.760 --> 02:07:10.119
<v Speaker 4>People have trouble believing or getting involved with what we've tried, all.

2509
02:07:10.079 --> 02:07:13.560
<v Speaker 2>The skeptics and non believers. I mean, when you know,

2510
02:07:13.720 --> 02:07:16.760
<v Speaker 2>like Peter Kane being held up as researchers, that's when

2511
02:07:16.800 --> 02:07:18.920
<v Speaker 2>you get a stopping to wait a minute. Peter Kane

2512
02:07:18.920 --> 02:07:19.640
<v Speaker 2>a dog trainer.

2513
02:07:20.800 --> 02:07:25.159
<v Speaker 1>I know, yeah, that was That's another crea. If there's

2514
02:07:25.279 --> 02:07:28.800
<v Speaker 1>people believe in NaSTA from David Kane, Peter Kane, excuse me,

2515
02:07:29.439 --> 02:07:31.760
<v Speaker 1>that's unbelievable. Oh, they absolutely.

2516
02:07:32.840 --> 02:07:34.880
<v Speaker 2>I had a dude on Instagram he sent me like

2517
02:07:35.079 --> 02:07:37.840
<v Speaker 2>forty videos from Peter Kane and he's telling me you'll

2518
02:07:37.920 --> 02:07:40.560
<v Speaker 2>never be the researcher this guy is. He has evidence

2519
02:07:40.600 --> 02:07:42.600
<v Speaker 2>that you'll never have. And I'm just sitting there going, dude,

2520
02:07:43.079 --> 02:07:45.439
<v Speaker 2>he made that costume. Bro, He's an artist, that's what

2521
02:07:45.560 --> 02:07:46.039
<v Speaker 2>he does.

2522
02:07:47.079 --> 02:07:50.479
<v Speaker 1>Well. That look at the frozen I'm not familiar with

2523
02:07:50.479 --> 02:07:53.039
<v Speaker 1>the costume. Yeah, but I know Peter Kane also had

2524
02:07:53.359 --> 02:07:54.720
<v Speaker 1>a frozen big foot ahead.

2525
02:07:56.039 --> 02:07:59.159
<v Speaker 2>Yep, yeah, body, he had the hands, the feet.

2526
02:08:01.760 --> 02:08:04.520
<v Speaker 1>He does what he does for YouTube views because he

2527
02:08:04.600 --> 02:08:06.479
<v Speaker 1>makes money off of his YouTube. Like many of us,

2528
02:08:07.000 --> 02:08:10.279
<v Speaker 1>I had to monorized YouTube channel, but I don't produce

2529
02:08:10.399 --> 02:08:12.880
<v Speaker 1>content all the time to get the views that I

2530
02:08:12.960 --> 02:08:16.760
<v Speaker 1>would love to have. But I have thirty nine hundred subscribers. Man,

2531
02:08:16.800 --> 02:08:18.279
<v Speaker 1>I would love to have some money made off of

2532
02:08:18.319 --> 02:08:21.239
<v Speaker 1>my YouTube channel. It would help me out tremendously. But

2533
02:08:23.560 --> 02:08:26.479
<v Speaker 1>I mean, these are people that got big time thousand views,

2534
02:08:26.680 --> 02:08:29.600
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, people producing content just to

2535
02:08:29.680 --> 02:08:33.039
<v Speaker 1>get the views constantly. I don't have the ability right

2536
02:08:33.119 --> 02:08:36.000
<v Speaker 1>now to constantly put stuff out on my YouTube channel,

2537
02:08:36.520 --> 02:08:39.880
<v Speaker 1>but right, you know, I mean I used to do

2538
02:08:40.000 --> 02:08:42.439
<v Speaker 1>my old podcasts were on my YouTube channel where I

2539
02:08:42.560 --> 02:08:45.600
<v Speaker 1>did the live video podcast. But and then I did.

2540
02:08:45.680 --> 02:08:47.800
<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of my field videos, you know,

2541
02:08:47.920 --> 02:08:50.760
<v Speaker 1>me out there exploring find some and you know, a

2542
02:08:50.800 --> 02:08:52.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of people appreciated what I did. But at the

2543
02:08:52.880 --> 02:08:56.239
<v Speaker 1>same time, there's some people like, oh, you're not showing bigfoot.

2544
02:08:56.880 --> 02:08:59.680
<v Speaker 1>What you know? You know, how am I supposed to

2545
02:08:59.680 --> 02:09:01.840
<v Speaker 1>show big quick? I said, all the videos you watch

2546
02:09:02.159 --> 02:09:04.800
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot bullshit? You know right.

2547
02:09:05.000 --> 02:09:06.840
<v Speaker 2>It's like, if I was gonna show bigfoot, I'd be

2548
02:09:06.920 --> 02:09:09.600
<v Speaker 2>on YouTube. No, I'd be proving it to scientists, saying

2549
02:09:09.640 --> 02:09:11.439
<v Speaker 2>here he is. Look it's a big foot.

2550
02:09:12.000 --> 02:09:15.439
<v Speaker 1>Right exactly. I mean, I mean, I can only show

2551
02:09:15.520 --> 02:09:17.520
<v Speaker 1>so much on my YouTube videos. I mean, I show

2552
02:09:18.119 --> 02:09:21.000
<v Speaker 1>interesting things I come across and find. But I'm never

2553
02:09:21.079 --> 02:09:22.359
<v Speaker 1>going to claim that I have big foot on my

2554
02:09:22.439 --> 02:09:26.520
<v Speaker 1>videos unless I know definitively that I've actually witnessed me

2555
02:09:26.680 --> 02:09:29.119
<v Speaker 1>seeing them and like, hey, look there he is right there.

2556
02:09:29.359 --> 02:09:31.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm not want them to come across it

2557
02:09:31.479 --> 02:09:35.760
<v Speaker 1>claim that, right. So I would love to find Bigfoot

2558
02:09:35.800 --> 02:09:37.000
<v Speaker 1>and show him on my videos.

2559
02:09:37.119 --> 02:09:39.560
<v Speaker 2>I really would me too. I mean I'd be making,

2560
02:09:39.720 --> 02:09:41.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, multiple videos going yep, this is him looking,

2561
02:09:42.199 --> 02:09:44.039
<v Speaker 2>here's him from the front, here's him from the side,

2562
02:09:44.079 --> 02:09:46.399
<v Speaker 2>here's him from above, all different angles for you to

2563
02:09:46.520 --> 02:09:48.560
<v Speaker 2>check out. But it's not gonna happen that way.

2564
02:09:49.159 --> 02:09:51.079
<v Speaker 4>Well now, they they are.

2565
02:09:52.079 --> 02:09:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, AI, Yeah, AI is awful. But I do

2566
02:09:56.960 --> 02:09:59.520
<v Speaker 1>have video. I do have people watching looking at some

2567
02:09:59.600 --> 02:10:02.319
<v Speaker 1>of my old content and sharing stuff with me, like

2568
02:10:03.000 --> 02:10:05.840
<v Speaker 1>look right here, right after you said you heard something

2569
02:10:05.920 --> 02:10:10.560
<v Speaker 1>moving nearby. Look, they'll give me a timestamp on my videos.

2570
02:10:10.640 --> 02:10:12.960
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I said, okay, maybe I need to

2571
02:10:12.960 --> 02:10:15.039
<v Speaker 1>pull this up on my laptop, but I'm not seeing nothing.

2572
02:10:19.680 --> 02:10:20.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean I.

2573
02:10:20.279 --> 02:10:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Certainly need though, we need that community where everybody's looking

2574
02:10:24.039 --> 02:10:26.159
<v Speaker 2>and watching our videos to point stuff out that we

2575
02:10:26.319 --> 02:10:26.880
<v Speaker 2>might have missed.

2576
02:10:26.960 --> 02:10:31.800
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what right now. There was one one of

2577
02:10:31.840 --> 02:10:36.079
<v Speaker 1>my old field videos which after reviewing it, I almost

2578
02:10:36.119 --> 02:10:38.760
<v Speaker 1>fooled myself. It took me a lot of them down

2579
02:10:39.000 --> 02:10:42.000
<v Speaker 1>to get this downfack. But in one of my videos,

2580
02:10:43.079 --> 02:10:45.960
<v Speaker 1>you've watched in the background and it up behind me.

2581
02:10:46.000 --> 02:10:49.279
<v Speaker 1>It kind of goes uphill and it clearly shows. It

2582
02:10:49.399 --> 02:10:54.359
<v Speaker 1>clearly shows what looked like a small, probably four or

2583
02:10:54.439 --> 02:10:59.600
<v Speaker 1>five feet tall, humanoid figure going from behind a tree. Yeah,

2584
02:10:59.600 --> 02:11:02.319
<v Speaker 1>it looks like the humanoid figure going from behind a tree,

2585
02:11:02.600 --> 02:11:07.039
<v Speaker 1>running across jumping behind another street. I've captured this myself,

2586
02:11:07.800 --> 02:11:10.640
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, you gotta be shipping, I said.

2587
02:11:10.680 --> 02:11:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I started looking at this and I slowed it down.

2588
02:11:12.960 --> 02:11:15.399
<v Speaker 1>I pulled it up on my laptop, and of course,

2589
02:11:15.520 --> 02:11:18.239
<v Speaker 1>when you're on your laptop and you're on YouTube, if

2590
02:11:18.239 --> 02:11:20.560
<v Speaker 1>you know how to use YouTube, you have the ability

2591
02:11:20.600 --> 02:11:24.399
<v Speaker 1>to slow things way down. Yeah, sure enough, I did that,

2592
02:11:25.159 --> 02:11:28.720
<v Speaker 1>and guess what I discovered It was. It was a

2593
02:11:28.840 --> 02:11:33.600
<v Speaker 1>leaf on a tree limb dangling really slow, and I

2594
02:11:33.720 --> 02:11:36.880
<v Speaker 1>captured it and I saw it very clear. I think, oh, well,

2595
02:11:37.000 --> 02:11:40.479
<v Speaker 1>that's a disappointment, but at least I know the truth

2596
02:11:40.520 --> 02:11:44.319
<v Speaker 1>about this now, you know, because it was right. It

2597
02:11:44.439 --> 02:11:47.000
<v Speaker 1>was an angle that I was moving in. I was

2598
02:11:47.039 --> 02:11:50.239
<v Speaker 1>barely moving, but it was enough where that's exactly what

2599
02:11:50.319 --> 02:11:52.880
<v Speaker 1>it looked like. It looked like something running going from

2600
02:11:52.920 --> 02:11:55.560
<v Speaker 1>one from behind one treet to another, and it looked

2601
02:11:55.560 --> 02:11:57.880
<v Speaker 1>like it went behind another street, it was a leaf

2602
02:11:58.000 --> 02:12:00.760
<v Speaker 1>dangling on the limb or a branch up behind me

2603
02:12:01.000 --> 02:12:04.760
<v Speaker 1>in a distance. Yeah, And I was like, man, I'm

2604
02:12:04.880 --> 02:12:07.199
<v Speaker 1>glad I just figured that out before somebody else says, hey,

2605
02:12:07.239 --> 02:12:08.920
<v Speaker 1>you had one running behind you in the field. No,

2606
02:12:10.760 --> 02:12:13.159
<v Speaker 1>but I love to bunking my own shit.

2607
02:12:15.000 --> 02:12:17.479
<v Speaker 2>You absolutely have to. That's what honest researchers do.

2608
02:12:19.079 --> 02:12:22.199
<v Speaker 1>But now a lot of people don't realize, Like, for example,

2609
02:12:22.279 --> 02:12:25.680
<v Speaker 1>there's some of my old video footage where people claim

2610
02:12:25.720 --> 02:12:28.079
<v Speaker 1>to have seen something I said. Okay, in some instance,

2611
02:12:28.319 --> 02:12:31.399
<v Speaker 1>maybe there's that possibility there really is something here. But

2612
02:12:31.800 --> 02:12:34.800
<v Speaker 1>with the old like a lot of my video footage

2613
02:12:35.199 --> 02:12:38.159
<v Speaker 1>comes from my camera phone, you know, using an old

2614
02:12:38.279 --> 02:12:42.680
<v Speaker 1>video camera or a camera phone. And when you upload

2615
02:12:42.720 --> 02:12:44.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people don't realize this unless you've got

2616
02:12:44.800 --> 02:12:47.399
<v Speaker 1>really good Wi Fi. When you upload stuff to YouTube,

2617
02:12:48.760 --> 02:12:52.680
<v Speaker 1>unless you're high uploading in a high depth setting, a

2618
02:12:52.760 --> 02:12:56.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of you video footage will become distorted. It's being

2619
02:12:56.640 --> 02:13:01.680
<v Speaker 1>uploaded to a lower quality image. So you're going to

2620
02:13:01.720 --> 02:13:05.720
<v Speaker 1>add some pixelation, you're gonna have distortion, so a lot

2621
02:13:05.800 --> 02:13:07.800
<v Speaker 1>of your stuff in the background is not going to

2622
02:13:07.800 --> 02:13:10.479
<v Speaker 1>be as clear as what you're recording. As a lot

2623
02:13:10.479 --> 02:13:13.560
<v Speaker 1>of people don't understand that. You know, again, you have

2624
02:13:13.680 --> 02:13:16.359
<v Speaker 1>to upload into I mean, I don't care you like

2625
02:13:16.520 --> 02:13:20.920
<v Speaker 1>right now, Yeah, my my gear has up has improved.

2626
02:13:20.960 --> 02:13:25.159
<v Speaker 1>I've got much better quality stuff nowadays. But you have

2627
02:13:25.279 --> 02:13:28.439
<v Speaker 1>to have good Wi Fi to upload into a high

2628
02:13:28.520 --> 02:13:35.439
<v Speaker 1>definition you know quality you know, are you talking four

2629
02:13:35.560 --> 02:13:39.600
<v Speaker 1>k oh either? One like YouTube doesn't give you the

2630
02:13:39.640 --> 02:13:42.439
<v Speaker 1>option to upload a four K. It gives you high

2631
02:13:42.520 --> 02:13:47.520
<v Speaker 1>depth ability. But so I mean if you upload, if

2632
02:13:47.560 --> 02:13:51.000
<v Speaker 1>you've got good hot Wi Fi, good internet service, yeah,

2633
02:13:51.039 --> 02:13:54.680
<v Speaker 1>it's going to give you a better quality image. But

2634
02:13:55.640 --> 02:13:58.920
<v Speaker 1>like with me, I'm thinking more of what for me personally.

2635
02:13:59.000 --> 02:14:00.960
<v Speaker 1>And I know I've seen this on other people's videos.

2636
02:14:01.079 --> 02:14:06.479
<v Speaker 1>I know they're uploading stuff at low quality. If I

2637
02:14:06.560 --> 02:14:09.920
<v Speaker 1>have good Wi Fi, yes, I could upload a better

2638
02:14:10.039 --> 02:14:17.000
<v Speaker 1>image and better quality quality scenery. But unfortunately, like like

2639
02:14:17.119 --> 02:14:20.159
<v Speaker 1>I could record off of four K. Now, my video

2640
02:14:20.199 --> 02:14:23.520
<v Speaker 1>footage does look a lot better. But even though once

2641
02:14:23.560 --> 02:14:26.520
<v Speaker 1>you get to YouTube, once it's on YouTube, it's not

2642
02:14:26.720 --> 02:14:28.840
<v Speaker 1>always going to show the clearest you know.

2643
02:14:29.159 --> 02:14:33.239
<v Speaker 4>So there on YouTube, you guys select the settings too, right.

2644
02:14:33.960 --> 02:14:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Right, change that's the thing. Yeah, I can change, I

2645
02:14:37.920 --> 02:14:40.199
<v Speaker 1>can sell up the settings, but it's kind of like

2646
02:14:40.319 --> 02:14:42.359
<v Speaker 1>with my Wi Fi. Like usually I tend to have

2647
02:14:42.439 --> 02:14:45.119
<v Speaker 1>a weak, slow Wi Fi, so it's gonna take a

2648
02:14:45.239 --> 02:14:47.720
<v Speaker 1>long time. It's going to eat up everything I got.

2649
02:14:47.960 --> 02:14:51.000
<v Speaker 1>So that's where I like, I personally I'm limited on

2650
02:14:51.399 --> 02:14:56.720
<v Speaker 1>how I could upload stuff. But now I could go

2651
02:14:56.960 --> 02:14:59.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean I technically, I guess I could go somewhere

2652
02:14:59.359 --> 02:15:02.239
<v Speaker 1>to arrest Ryan or a store that offers free Wi

2653
02:15:02.319 --> 02:15:04.479
<v Speaker 1>Fi and I can upload that way or it doesn't

2654
02:15:04.520 --> 02:15:08.840
<v Speaker 1>eat up my data. So because like right now, like

2655
02:15:08.960 --> 02:15:11.399
<v Speaker 1>we're doing this show right now, I'm using my phone's data,

2656
02:15:11.720 --> 02:15:16.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm using yeah, So, which it doesn't mean it works great.

2657
02:15:17.199 --> 02:15:19.000
<v Speaker 4>You don't have internet your else.

2658
02:15:20.239 --> 02:15:23.039
<v Speaker 1>No I'm not here, No, No, like I'm using I

2659
02:15:23.119 --> 02:15:25.439
<v Speaker 1>got Verizon, and I got good signal right now because

2660
02:15:25.439 --> 02:15:28.399
<v Speaker 1>everything's renewed since I you know, you guys know, I've

2661
02:15:28.399 --> 02:15:30.199
<v Speaker 1>been out of work for over a month so and

2662
02:15:30.319 --> 02:15:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I was able to just recently renew my everything. So

2663
02:15:33.079 --> 02:15:34.159
<v Speaker 1>my dad has been reset.

2664
02:15:34.279 --> 02:15:35.359
<v Speaker 4>So yeah.

2665
02:15:36.520 --> 02:15:40.640
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so I mean right now, like this is

2666
02:15:40.680 --> 02:15:43.479
<v Speaker 1>gonna be all audio when people are listening to this

2667
02:15:43.640 --> 02:15:45.439
<v Speaker 1>on the radio platforms, and I'm not worried about the

2668
02:15:45.520 --> 02:15:48.960
<v Speaker 1>video footage. That's why I got my camera turned off

2669
02:15:49.039 --> 02:15:51.319
<v Speaker 1>right now because they're not gonna see what we're doing.

2670
02:15:51.479 --> 02:15:54.359
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so yeah, I'll get off my soapbox and

2671
02:15:54.399 --> 02:15:55.800
<v Speaker 2>not complain about certain people.

2672
02:15:55.600 --> 02:16:01.239
<v Speaker 1>Though, Like nobody's gonna see David in his is uh

2673
02:16:01.520 --> 02:16:02.359
<v Speaker 1>his apron right now.

2674
02:16:02.560 --> 02:16:15.720
<v Speaker 2>So we were all doing those bue gestures for absolutely nothing. Bummer.

2675
02:16:21.760 --> 02:16:25.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just like you know, Ryan, David, David likes to

2676
02:16:25.520 --> 02:16:28.439
<v Speaker 1>wear his apron with not non just for the entertainment

2677
02:16:28.520 --> 02:16:37.879
<v Speaker 1>to his own wife. No, I'll give I'll give Ryan

2678
02:16:37.920 --> 02:16:39.680
<v Speaker 1>a little back fell on why I'm joking about the

2679
02:16:39.719 --> 02:16:42.239
<v Speaker 1>apron thing. Ryan has no idea why you why I

2680
02:16:42.319 --> 02:16:47.399
<v Speaker 1>talk about the apron David. David's retired and he works

2681
02:16:47.479 --> 02:16:50.079
<v Speaker 1>with you know, his wife Melissa at Krispy Krean. You

2682
02:16:50.120 --> 02:16:51.399
<v Speaker 1>guys got Christopher Crean out there.

2683
02:16:52.000 --> 02:16:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we do what we used to do. I'm not

2684
02:16:54.120 --> 02:16:56.559
<v Speaker 2>if it's still there or if it's relocated, but we

2685
02:16:56.680 --> 02:16:56.959
<v Speaker 2>got one.

2686
02:16:57.040 --> 02:17:01.879
<v Speaker 1>Oh. Ever, since I came into where they work and

2687
02:17:02.040 --> 02:17:05.040
<v Speaker 1>I ran into them while they were both working, I

2688
02:17:05.200 --> 02:17:07.799
<v Speaker 1>started joking with David because you know, hey, he was

2689
02:17:07.879 --> 02:17:10.319
<v Speaker 1>working making the donuts. He was wearing an apron, so

2690
02:17:10.680 --> 02:17:13.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, so I joke with him ever since, talking

2691
02:17:13.200 --> 02:17:15.799
<v Speaker 1>about him being you know, a maly man wearing an apron.

2692
02:17:15.879 --> 02:17:19.799
<v Speaker 2>So he did pretty much the Krispy Krean version of

2693
02:17:19.879 --> 02:17:22.600
<v Speaker 2>the dunkin Donuts guy time to make the don Yeah.

2694
02:17:23.239 --> 02:17:27.840
<v Speaker 5>Exactly, I do have a little bit of intellect here,

2695
02:17:27.920 --> 02:17:34.399
<v Speaker 5>come on, guys retired from the army after twenty one years.

2696
02:17:34.440 --> 02:17:36.360
<v Speaker 5>That retired from the local sheriff's office.

2697
02:17:36.399 --> 02:17:38.159
<v Speaker 4>That's behind me. So I can get out two days

2698
02:17:38.200 --> 02:17:40.520
<v Speaker 4>a week just working, make a little bit of this

2699
02:17:40.760 --> 02:17:47.840
<v Speaker 4>play money. I'm just not wanting to know a fly

2700
02:17:48.000 --> 02:17:50.200
<v Speaker 4>by night guys out there to go from dogs job.

2701
02:17:50.639 --> 02:17:52.840
<v Speaker 4>I reta, No.

2702
02:17:53.040 --> 02:18:04.639
<v Speaker 1>That's not you, David, that's me. Let me stop. Come hey,

2703
02:18:04.719 --> 02:18:06.959
<v Speaker 1>I want to see you wearing an apron when you're cooking, David.

2704
02:18:10.399 --> 02:18:13.120
<v Speaker 1>But I buy you, I buy you a customized apron

2705
02:18:13.200 --> 02:18:15.239
<v Speaker 1>with you with a big foot on it with a

2706
02:18:15.360 --> 02:18:30.520
<v Speaker 1>doing oh my god, oh lord. Oh yeah. So yeah,

2707
02:18:30.680 --> 02:18:33.920
<v Speaker 1>just to give you a backfill Ryan back round story. Yeah,

2708
02:18:33.920 --> 02:18:37.159
<v Speaker 1>we're we're crazy day Ryan, so I can tell you're

2709
02:18:37.200 --> 02:18:40.120
<v Speaker 1>my kind of Yeah. Yeah. We love the joke and

2710
02:18:40.159 --> 02:18:41.920
<v Speaker 1>cut up. So that's that's who we are.

2711
02:18:42.559 --> 02:18:45.000
<v Speaker 2>That's how we should. You can't have comedy and make

2712
02:18:45.040 --> 02:18:46.719
<v Speaker 2>fun of each other. There's something wrong.

2713
02:18:47.479 --> 02:18:52.159
<v Speaker 7>Exactly, exactly, like an extended family right now.

2714
02:18:53.000 --> 02:18:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Right, Oh for sure, my baby brother exactly.

2715
02:19:00.399 --> 02:19:02.440
<v Speaker 2>That's what I love about the community, though, is you

2716
02:19:02.520 --> 02:19:05.600
<v Speaker 2>do make some really good friends, you make some lifelong friends,

2717
02:19:05.680 --> 02:19:06.879
<v Speaker 2>and that's very important.

2718
02:19:08.280 --> 02:19:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely so. Yeah. I mean, back when I was

2719
02:19:14.319 --> 02:19:17.319
<v Speaker 1>asking you if you if you travel, I mean, I

2720
02:19:17.440 --> 02:19:19.360
<v Speaker 1>know it would probably be impossible for you to do

2721
02:19:19.440 --> 02:19:21.520
<v Speaker 1>it this year, but maybe that's something you can consider

2722
02:19:21.520 --> 02:19:22.040
<v Speaker 1>it next year.

2723
02:19:22.559 --> 02:19:25.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, definitely next year. I can definitely save up

2724
02:19:25.120 --> 02:19:28.159
<v Speaker 2>for that and gets traveling again. It'd be nice.

2725
02:19:29.120 --> 02:19:31.399
<v Speaker 1>Because one of the things I've actually been thinking about

2726
02:19:31.399 --> 02:19:33.600
<v Speaker 1>it and I haven't told David and listen to this,

2727
02:19:34.280 --> 02:19:37.760
<v Speaker 1>but one of the things for next year's event, because

2728
02:19:37.760 --> 02:19:39.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, I host the annual e C b r

2729
02:19:39.440 --> 02:19:43.040
<v Speaker 1>O Virginia Big for Conference every year, right, and I

2730
02:19:43.200 --> 02:19:45.479
<v Speaker 1>kind of hate to do this in a jam, I

2731
02:19:45.520 --> 02:19:49.239
<v Speaker 1>mean in June, but with our event, I hold my

2732
02:19:49.319 --> 02:19:52.879
<v Speaker 1>event every June. But at the same time, I consider

2733
02:19:53.040 --> 02:19:56.719
<v Speaker 1>doing a camp out in June leading up to, you know,

2734
02:19:57.120 --> 02:20:01.920
<v Speaker 1>just prior to the event yourself only because I might

2735
02:20:02.239 --> 02:20:05.200
<v Speaker 1>advertise this as a like, I don't know, I just

2736
02:20:05.239 --> 02:20:06.879
<v Speaker 1>thought about trying this for the first time to see

2737
02:20:06.920 --> 02:20:09.879
<v Speaker 1>how it works out. Uh. The reason I hate to

2738
02:20:09.920 --> 02:20:11.559
<v Speaker 1>do this in June because it would just probably be

2739
02:20:11.639 --> 02:20:14.600
<v Speaker 1>too hot, you know. I usually do May and then

2740
02:20:14.680 --> 02:20:17.799
<v Speaker 1>September like a spring and fall event, you know, with campouts.

2741
02:20:19.000 --> 02:20:23.040
<v Speaker 1>But I know it's been presented to me in the past, like, hey,

2742
02:20:23.120 --> 02:20:25.799
<v Speaker 1>why don't you do a group camp out expedition for

2743
02:20:26.079 --> 02:20:29.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, and do a sign up thing and you

2744
02:20:29.360 --> 02:20:33.280
<v Speaker 1>charge people around, you know, around your event. I think, well,

2745
02:20:34.399 --> 02:20:36.959
<v Speaker 1>the only issue again, the only issue I have with

2746
02:20:37.040 --> 02:20:40.040
<v Speaker 1>that would be it would be very hot.

2747
02:20:40.360 --> 02:20:43.120
<v Speaker 2>But you know, no, I don't talk to me about hot.

2748
02:20:43.159 --> 02:20:45.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm in Arizona, so it'd be like a for me.

2749
02:20:47.520 --> 02:20:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, well that's probably a dry heat for you out there,

2750
02:20:50.959 --> 02:20:52.520
<v Speaker 1>ain't it? Or is that actually human?

2751
02:20:53.239 --> 02:20:55.319
<v Speaker 2>The weather has been kind of crazy here actually, because

2752
02:20:55.319 --> 02:20:57.239
<v Speaker 2>we had the really cold weather where the days were

2753
02:20:57.280 --> 02:20:59.360
<v Speaker 2>cold and nights were cold. Then all of a sudden,

2754
02:21:00.040 --> 02:21:01.760
<v Speaker 2>the morning. I mean just the other day, I went

2755
02:21:01.799 --> 02:21:03.479
<v Speaker 2>out to go home, I have my first cup of coffee,

2756
02:21:03.520 --> 02:21:05.399
<v Speaker 2>and I stepped outside and I'm like, oh man, what

2757
02:21:05.520 --> 02:21:08.239
<v Speaker 2>the hell it's hot out here today? It was like

2758
02:21:08.319 --> 02:21:10.760
<v Speaker 2>twenty last now it's like eighty degrees right now. I'm

2759
02:21:10.799 --> 02:21:11.639
<v Speaker 2>going back inside.

2760
02:21:13.120 --> 02:21:16.639
<v Speaker 1>Wow. Well, Yeah, it's strange here a little bit on

2761
02:21:16.680 --> 02:21:19.120
<v Speaker 1>the east coast for us because like this morning, my

2762
02:21:19.159 --> 02:21:21.120
<v Speaker 1>grandson had a two hour delay to school, so I

2763
02:21:21.159 --> 02:21:23.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't have to get them there until like I leave

2764
02:21:23.040 --> 02:21:27.040
<v Speaker 1>here by nine point thirty in the morning today, and right,

2765
02:21:27.120 --> 02:21:28.959
<v Speaker 1>you know, it started off it was like it was

2766
02:21:29.200 --> 02:21:31.840
<v Speaker 1>just above freezing. It was thirty three degrees when I

2767
02:21:31.920 --> 02:21:36.239
<v Speaker 1>left go to bring him to school, but it reached

2768
02:21:36.280 --> 02:21:39.959
<v Speaker 1>about almost fifty degrees later in the day, so I

2769
02:21:40.000 --> 02:21:41.760
<v Speaker 1>was like, wow, this is weird. You know, we had

2770
02:21:41.799 --> 02:21:43.600
<v Speaker 1>freezing like when I brought them to school. Yeah, you

2771
02:21:43.600 --> 02:21:45.280
<v Speaker 1>can see the ice on the trees on the way

2772
02:21:45.319 --> 02:21:48.559
<v Speaker 1>to school. So there was some we had the freezing rain,

2773
02:21:49.200 --> 02:21:52.079
<v Speaker 1>and then I don't know, it's supposed to It's weird.

2774
02:21:52.760 --> 02:21:54.840
<v Speaker 1>The temperate was this week of fluctuating up and down,

2775
02:21:54.920 --> 02:21:57.239
<v Speaker 1>up and down, up and down, and we're supposed to

2776
02:21:57.280 --> 02:21:59.760
<v Speaker 1>get some snow going into next week. So I don't know.

2777
02:22:00.120 --> 02:22:02.239
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of hard to follow what's going on here.

2778
02:22:03.399 --> 02:22:05.760
<v Speaker 2>They see global warming isn't a thing, huh.

2779
02:22:06.479 --> 02:22:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, it's kind of crazy. But so as far

2780
02:22:11.360 --> 02:22:14.840
<v Speaker 1>as the camp out thing, I'm considering doing something maybe

2781
02:22:14.959 --> 02:22:17.840
<v Speaker 1>in June before the event, you know, just to see

2782
02:22:17.840 --> 02:22:20.920
<v Speaker 1>how I might try. I'm thinking about it, but see

2783
02:22:20.920 --> 02:22:23.319
<v Speaker 1>if it works out or not, you know, because there's

2784
02:22:23.360 --> 02:22:25.879
<v Speaker 1>people that want to get involved with my events, that

2785
02:22:26.000 --> 02:22:29.159
<v Speaker 1>want to go on in an expedition, you know. But

2786
02:22:29.319 --> 02:22:32.879
<v Speaker 1>that's why I promote them. Well, I have them promoting them.

2787
02:22:32.920 --> 02:22:35.559
<v Speaker 1>I keep in private now. But yeah, like I said,

2788
02:22:35.600 --> 02:22:37.680
<v Speaker 1>I do want in spring and I do want in fall.

2789
02:22:37.840 --> 02:22:39.600
<v Speaker 1>And the reason I do with them around those times

2790
02:22:39.600 --> 02:22:42.200
<v Speaker 1>of the years because based off of my research and

2791
02:22:42.280 --> 02:22:46.600
<v Speaker 1>my experiences in the field, by myself, I've getten I

2792
02:22:46.680 --> 02:22:49.000
<v Speaker 1>have gotten the most activity during these times of the

2793
02:22:49.079 --> 02:22:52.600
<v Speaker 1>year because spring, earlier to mid spring, you're going to

2794
02:22:52.639 --> 02:22:54.840
<v Speaker 1>get you know, you get more, you get a lot

2795
02:22:54.879 --> 02:22:58.040
<v Speaker 1>of activity because the tempers are not cold, but they're

2796
02:22:58.040 --> 02:23:01.040
<v Speaker 1>not so high either. They're more comfortable, right, the same

2797
02:23:01.079 --> 02:23:03.520
<v Speaker 1>thing with early to mid spring. I mean it's fall.

2798
02:23:03.799 --> 02:23:06.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean, same thing. I mean, you get you get

2799
02:23:06.120 --> 02:23:08.600
<v Speaker 1>some warm temperatures, but it doesn't get extremely cold. So

2800
02:23:10.680 --> 02:23:13.159
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, I don't know. I mean, I'm I'm trying

2801
02:23:13.200 --> 02:23:15.959
<v Speaker 1>to figure something out. But I mean I might still

2802
02:23:16.040 --> 02:23:18.239
<v Speaker 1>do the May camp out, but I try to do

2803
02:23:18.360 --> 02:23:21.120
<v Speaker 1>something every May and every September. But I might try

2804
02:23:21.159 --> 02:23:23.639
<v Speaker 1>to do something for a few days and next June.

2805
02:23:23.719 --> 02:23:26.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I got plenty of times play, oh

2806
02:23:27.000 --> 02:23:31.360
<v Speaker 1>for sure, Yeah for sure. So yeah, I'm gonna try

2807
02:23:31.360 --> 02:23:34.959
<v Speaker 1>to figure that out. Like I said, I I mean,

2808
02:23:35.000 --> 02:23:37.920
<v Speaker 1>I've had something someone not long ago bring that up

2809
02:23:37.959 --> 02:23:39.840
<v Speaker 1>to me. So I don't know. We'll see, we'll kind

2810
02:23:39.840 --> 02:23:41.879
<v Speaker 1>of play by year. But yeah, like I said, we

2811
02:23:42.000 --> 02:23:44.920
<v Speaker 1>got our group camp out coming up in May. It's

2812
02:23:45.040 --> 02:23:49.000
<v Speaker 1>May eighteenth, twenty fourth, and the location we're going to

2813
02:23:49.040 --> 02:23:52.040
<v Speaker 1>be in is where we were back in October. I

2814
02:23:52.079 --> 02:23:54.360
<v Speaker 1>don't know why. I don't know why I chose October

2815
02:23:54.440 --> 02:23:56.840
<v Speaker 1>when we normally try to do September, but October for

2816
02:23:56.959 --> 02:23:59.879
<v Speaker 1>some reason, I don't know. I thought it was different.

2817
02:24:01.079 --> 02:24:02.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah it was little cold.

2818
02:24:02.600 --> 02:24:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, we had a very cold in October. It

2819
02:24:09.120 --> 02:24:17.719
<v Speaker 1>got down there like now during the day. It wasn't

2820
02:24:17.760 --> 02:24:19.520
<v Speaker 1>too bad. I mean we had.

2821
02:24:21.360 --> 02:24:23.559
<v Speaker 4>In the sun going down and getting in the shutles.

2822
02:24:23.600 --> 02:24:28.479
<v Speaker 4>It's cool quick, yeah, yeah, got down. It was fun.

2823
02:24:28.600 --> 02:24:31.559
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't miserable. Everybody's still in girls. It was fun.

2824
02:24:31.879 --> 02:24:33.000
<v Speaker 4>It was something different, you know.

2825
02:24:33.440 --> 02:24:36.000
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, take your glasses off at night to go to

2826
02:24:36.120 --> 02:24:38.559
<v Speaker 7>sleep on your caught in your tent and you wake

2827
02:24:38.680 --> 02:24:40.959
<v Speaker 7>up and there's a film of ice on your glasses.

2828
02:24:41.479 --> 02:24:44.760
<v Speaker 4>Go wow, man, that.

2829
02:24:44.959 --> 02:24:47.360
<v Speaker 2>Is cool thinking about that.

2830
02:24:48.879 --> 02:24:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know what I mean. Like, I wear glasses too,

2831
02:24:51.120 --> 02:24:53.200
<v Speaker 1>So I kicked my contacts out at night, you know

2832
02:24:53.239 --> 02:24:55.360
<v Speaker 1>where I have my run with glasses I slip on.

2833
02:24:56.040 --> 02:24:57.760
<v Speaker 1>But when I go to bed, I don't like I

2834
02:24:57.879 --> 02:25:01.159
<v Speaker 1>had my like my BEAUTI they had. If I were

2835
02:25:01.239 --> 02:25:03.680
<v Speaker 1>a beanie, I would put my glasses inside the beanie

2836
02:25:03.760 --> 02:25:05.959
<v Speaker 1>something to keep it. And I did the same thing

2837
02:25:06.040 --> 02:25:08.159
<v Speaker 1>with my phone because you know, even though I turned

2838
02:25:08.200 --> 02:25:10.479
<v Speaker 1>my phone off at night out there, can't. I don't

2839
02:25:10.479 --> 02:25:13.360
<v Speaker 1>want it being exposed directly to the cold there. So

2840
02:25:14.000 --> 02:25:17.239
<v Speaker 1>I'll put my glasses in my phone inside my beanie,

2841
02:25:17.479 --> 02:25:19.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, the kind of keep it from getting that

2842
02:25:19.440 --> 02:25:20.879
<v Speaker 1>direct really cold there.

2843
02:25:21.040 --> 02:25:21.239
<v Speaker 3>You know.

2844
02:25:24.399 --> 02:25:28.639
<v Speaker 4>I didn't get that, man. I was listening for Daniel

2845
02:25:28.680 --> 02:25:30.200
<v Speaker 4>to get his butt up, and he was there. They

2846
02:25:30.200 --> 02:25:31.760
<v Speaker 4>were making the fire and once to get the fire,

2847
02:25:31.799 --> 02:25:33.639
<v Speaker 4>and then I come out of the fire.

2848
02:25:38.239 --> 02:25:41.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm like that Native American.

2849
02:25:42.040 --> 02:25:48.040
<v Speaker 2>They called me the fire starter, pleased with matches.

2850
02:25:49.200 --> 02:25:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, light it up, baby burn, baby burn exactly. Oh man,

2851
02:25:59.479 --> 02:26:02.280
<v Speaker 1>So I I got to ask you Ryan. I know,

2852
02:26:03.000 --> 02:26:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I know you've been on social media almost as long

2853
02:26:05.479 --> 02:26:09.120
<v Speaker 1>as I have, if not longer. And you're in a

2854
02:26:09.200 --> 02:26:11.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of these different groups that you know, I'm sure

2855
02:26:12.040 --> 02:26:14.159
<v Speaker 1>I've been in so many over the years. I've left

2856
02:26:14.200 --> 02:26:16.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them. Either I left a lot of

2857
02:26:16.319 --> 02:26:18.200
<v Speaker 1>them on my own, or I've been kicked out of them.

2858
02:26:18.319 --> 02:26:22.440
<v Speaker 1>But because the ship I share, I'm an open book.

2859
02:26:22.520 --> 02:26:25.479
<v Speaker 1>I share things very bluntly sometimes and I used to

2860
02:26:25.520 --> 02:26:27.280
<v Speaker 1>be very bad about it, but I chilled out over

2861
02:26:27.319 --> 02:26:30.559
<v Speaker 1>the years. But but what that means said, you know,

2862
02:26:31.040 --> 02:26:33.520
<v Speaker 1>you're I know you're in as many group as I am.

2863
02:26:33.760 --> 02:26:37.879
<v Speaker 1>And so my question to you is with you know,

2864
02:26:39.000 --> 02:26:40.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know it was the best way to say this.

2865
02:26:40.799 --> 02:26:43.520
<v Speaker 1>I kind of asked this question earlier. But what's the

2866
02:26:43.639 --> 02:26:48.559
<v Speaker 1>most craziest Uh, well, what would you consider something very

2867
02:26:48.639 --> 02:26:51.200
<v Speaker 1>extreme as far as a claim that you felt that

2868
02:26:51.399 --> 02:26:52.600
<v Speaker 1>was incredible.

2869
02:26:53.719 --> 02:26:56.920
<v Speaker 2>There's two that come to mind instantaneously, and they're both nuts,

2870
02:26:57.079 --> 02:27:00.319
<v Speaker 2>So buckle up when you hear this one. One guy right,

2871
02:27:00.840 --> 02:27:03.559
<v Speaker 2>he claimed that his dad worked for a certain section

2872
02:27:03.719 --> 02:27:06.479
<v Speaker 2>of the government. Wouldn't say which one, And he claims

2873
02:27:06.520 --> 02:27:08.799
<v Speaker 2>that one day his dad came home from work with

2874
02:27:09.079 --> 02:27:12.280
<v Speaker 2>a sack, right, and inside this sack was a dog

2875
02:27:12.399 --> 02:27:13.239
<v Speaker 2>man puppy.

2876
02:27:13.600 --> 02:27:14.159
<v Speaker 1>So oh, my.

2877
02:27:15.680 --> 02:27:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Baby dog man. And as it grew up, it was

2878
02:27:18.360 --> 02:27:21.639
<v Speaker 2>his protector, his bodyguard. It ended up killing like three

2879
02:27:21.760 --> 02:27:24.719
<v Speaker 2>or four gugwi It killed like six brakes, It killed

2880
02:27:24.760 --> 02:27:26.680
<v Speaker 2>a wind to Go, it killed a skin walker, it

2881
02:27:26.799 --> 02:27:30.120
<v Speaker 2>killed the Jersey Devil. And supposedly his dad made this

2882
02:27:30.280 --> 02:27:33.440
<v Speaker 2>like steel gauntlet of claws for this dog man. So

2883
02:27:33.639 --> 02:27:36.920
<v Speaker 2>basically it was a dog man wolverine where you know, snicked,

2884
02:27:37.879 --> 02:27:41.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, So I thought that was so absurd. But

2885
02:27:41.319 --> 02:27:43.719
<v Speaker 2>this guy, he goes on to tell the story of

2886
02:27:43.760 --> 02:27:46.760
<v Speaker 2>how the dog man got killed defending him from something,

2887
02:27:47.360 --> 02:27:50.280
<v Speaker 2>and people let nobody see the grave, and I keep

2888
02:27:50.319 --> 02:27:52.159
<v Speaker 2>trying to talk to him, like, dude, if you really

2889
02:27:52.239 --> 02:27:54.680
<v Speaker 2>had a dog man and you bury him on your property,

2890
02:27:55.120 --> 02:27:57.120
<v Speaker 2>why not just show us the body and shut us

2891
02:27:57.159 --> 02:27:59.719
<v Speaker 2>all up. Right there, you have the proof that it

2892
02:27:59.760 --> 02:28:01.760
<v Speaker 2>really happened that you had a dog man, puff that

2893
02:28:01.799 --> 02:28:04.040
<v Speaker 2>you raised, that he got killed the way that you

2894
02:28:04.079 --> 02:28:06.200
<v Speaker 2>said he did, and there's his body. You could shut

2895
02:28:06.280 --> 02:28:08.440
<v Speaker 2>us all down, and you'd be the guy that walks

2896
02:28:08.440 --> 02:28:11.280
<v Speaker 2>out triumphant because you were telling the truth. But he

2897
02:28:11.399 --> 02:28:14.360
<v Speaker 2>will not let anybody onto the property, not a single person.

2898
02:28:15.159 --> 02:28:16.959
<v Speaker 1>So then there's this other guy.

2899
02:28:17.760 --> 02:28:20.479
<v Speaker 2>He claimed he had a romantic relationship with a female dog.

2900
02:28:20.559 --> 02:28:27.879
<v Speaker 2>Man tell you what this romance included, but you can imagine.

2901
02:28:27.959 --> 02:28:30.120
<v Speaker 2>You can let your imaginations run wild with it, and

2902
02:28:30.520 --> 02:28:33.000
<v Speaker 2>anything your imagination comes up with. I'll just say, yes,

2903
02:28:33.239 --> 02:28:37.120
<v Speaker 2>that supposedly happened too. So there's some crazy stuff out there.

2904
02:28:39.319 --> 02:28:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Wow. So there romance was all dog you style?

2905
02:28:42.879 --> 02:28:49.159
<v Speaker 4>You sure?

2906
02:28:50.120 --> 02:28:50.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

2907
02:28:51.360 --> 02:28:54.120
<v Speaker 2>You could say he gave that dog a bone, won't.

2908
02:28:56.879 --> 02:28:59.079
<v Speaker 1>Wow. Wow.

2909
02:29:02.399 --> 02:29:05.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why people romanticize this stuff so much.

2910
02:29:05.159 --> 02:29:08.200
<v Speaker 2>I think it's sign of mental illness in some of them.

2911
02:29:08.280 --> 02:29:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to be no, I agree. I mean

2912
02:29:11.639 --> 02:29:16.399
<v Speaker 1>I've heard some crazy stuff along the ways here and there. Yeah, yeah,

2913
02:29:16.520 --> 02:29:18.120
<v Speaker 1>where I'm usually let it go in one ear and

2914
02:29:18.200 --> 02:29:20.840
<v Speaker 1>out the other. But there was some channel that.

2915
02:29:20.959 --> 02:29:24.360
<v Speaker 2>Was telling some lady's story where allegedly she had bigfoots

2916
02:29:24.360 --> 02:29:27.920
<v Speaker 2>a love child. What that really?

2917
02:29:28.280 --> 02:29:32.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Wow, that's something that's a taboy kind of thing.

2918
02:29:32.639 --> 02:29:34.879
<v Speaker 1>I would take it, you would think.

2919
02:29:35.000 --> 02:29:36.799
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, if you listen to the video, Daniel,

2920
02:29:36.840 --> 02:29:39.799
<v Speaker 2>it's so detailed, but you're just sitting there going, Okay,

2921
02:29:39.879 --> 02:29:42.200
<v Speaker 2>I know it's not true, But what kind of sick

2922
02:29:42.319 --> 02:29:44.040
<v Speaker 2>mind comes up with this kind of stuff. I mean,

2923
02:29:44.559 --> 02:29:46.319
<v Speaker 2>what frame of mind are you in to think of

2924
02:29:46.399 --> 02:29:48.600
<v Speaker 2>the story? I'll tell people I had big Foot to

2925
02:29:48.639 --> 02:29:50.520
<v Speaker 2>bebi right.

2926
02:29:53.000 --> 02:29:54.639
<v Speaker 1>I think I hear a dog man in the background.

2927
02:30:08.399 --> 02:30:10.559
<v Speaker 2>See, I've heard some crazy stuff though, Daniel and I

2928
02:30:10.600 --> 02:30:12.120
<v Speaker 2>get to the point where it's just like, if I

2929
02:30:12.280 --> 02:30:15.559
<v Speaker 2>hear or even with any craziness involved in the story,

2930
02:30:15.920 --> 02:30:17.559
<v Speaker 2>I just shut him down. Now you tell them, you

2931
02:30:17.600 --> 02:30:20.319
<v Speaker 2>know what, I'm not interested in hearing this. Sorry, go

2932
02:30:20.440 --> 02:30:21.280
<v Speaker 2>on to the next person.

2933
02:30:22.280 --> 02:30:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Right. Wow, Oh, I can't remember the woman's name. You

2934
02:30:28.120 --> 02:30:30.079
<v Speaker 1>might know who I'm talking about. I don't know. You've

2935
02:30:30.079 --> 02:30:32.200
<v Speaker 1>probably heard as much as I've heard over the years.

2936
02:30:32.280 --> 02:30:37.079
<v Speaker 1>But there was one where the woman supposedly allowed Bigfoot

2937
02:30:37.159 --> 02:30:40.319
<v Speaker 1>to come into her basement. She the bab the Bigfoot

2938
02:30:40.399 --> 02:30:43.680
<v Speaker 1>used to ship in the basement around the letter box

2939
02:30:43.879 --> 02:30:44.840
<v Speaker 1>or I do.

2940
02:30:46.440 --> 02:30:47.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

2941
02:30:48.159 --> 02:30:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I can't remember her name, but a lot of

2942
02:30:51.639 --> 02:30:57.319
<v Speaker 1>people looked up to her as being legit. Yep, I mean, yeah,

2943
02:30:57.399 --> 02:30:58.200
<v Speaker 1>that was another.

2944
02:30:57.959 --> 02:31:00.280
<v Speaker 2>One to reach that. You know, people can care these

2945
02:31:00.360 --> 02:31:03.920
<v Speaker 2>fantastical stories, and people will just eat it up. They'll

2946
02:31:04.120 --> 02:31:06.719
<v Speaker 2>could devour it and gobble it up and follow this

2947
02:31:06.840 --> 02:31:09.799
<v Speaker 2>person and revere them. And it's like but why are

2948
02:31:09.840 --> 02:31:12.079
<v Speaker 2>you not starting to think that either lying to you,

2949
02:31:12.239 --> 02:31:14.120
<v Speaker 2>that they're feeding off of your attention.

2950
02:31:15.120 --> 02:31:18.959
<v Speaker 1>Exactly, or maybe they had these wiles of these people

2951
02:31:19.040 --> 02:31:22.440
<v Speaker 1>making these claims have these bizarre dreams and it's felt

2952
02:31:22.479 --> 02:31:23.959
<v Speaker 1>like a reality to them, you know.

2953
02:31:24.440 --> 02:31:26.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean I had one lady tell me she was

2954
02:31:26.440 --> 02:31:28.600
<v Speaker 2>from the UK, by the way, she lived in you know,

2955
02:31:28.719 --> 02:31:31.600
<v Speaker 2>in Liverpool, and she would send me these photos of

2956
02:31:32.399 --> 02:31:35.559
<v Speaker 2>this smoke trail from her incen and she would tell me, Oh,

2957
02:31:35.600 --> 02:31:37.280
<v Speaker 2>that's Bigfoot sneaking into my house.

2958
02:31:38.000 --> 02:31:38.719
<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh.

2959
02:31:39.280 --> 02:31:42.719
<v Speaker 2>Though, well, yeah, it's he materializes and it walffs up

2960
02:31:42.760 --> 02:31:44.879
<v Speaker 2>from the street and it creeps in through the cracks

2961
02:31:44.920 --> 02:31:46.680
<v Speaker 2>in my doorway and it sneaks into my house.

2962
02:31:47.959 --> 02:31:49.120
<v Speaker 4>Wow. Yeah.

2963
02:31:49.159 --> 02:31:51.600
<v Speaker 2>She even showed me a footprint in the pavement and

2964
02:31:51.719 --> 02:31:55.159
<v Speaker 2>she said that Bigfoot melted the pavement because Bigfoot is radioactive.

2965
02:31:56.360 --> 02:32:02.959
<v Speaker 1>Wow. And I'm like, oh boy, yeah, I have you know, Yeah,

2966
02:32:03.159 --> 02:32:07.760
<v Speaker 1>I've heard a lot of crazy on myself. I mean,

2967
02:32:10.120 --> 02:32:12.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's a lot that I don't underestimate when

2968
02:32:12.719 --> 02:32:16.120
<v Speaker 1>it comes to Bigfoot himself. I mean, I believe that

2969
02:32:16.239 --> 02:32:20.280
<v Speaker 1>they are highly intelligent, and I agree. I mean, just

2970
02:32:20.399 --> 02:32:22.479
<v Speaker 1>like just like our known species of primates. I mean,

2971
02:32:22.520 --> 02:32:25.399
<v Speaker 1>it's been proven that they've used things for tools.

2972
02:32:25.959 --> 02:32:26.159
<v Speaker 4>Sure.

2973
02:32:26.280 --> 02:32:26.440
<v Speaker 1>You know.

2974
02:32:26.600 --> 02:32:28.719
<v Speaker 2>One story that I have a hard time believing is

2975
02:32:28.799 --> 02:32:32.600
<v Speaker 2>the little kid that went missing and later the kid

2976
02:32:32.760 --> 02:32:34.639
<v Speaker 2>was brought back and said that a bear took care

2977
02:32:34.680 --> 02:32:34.959
<v Speaker 2>of him.

2978
02:32:35.399 --> 02:32:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, I know, I get. I actually added a

2979
02:32:38.360 --> 02:32:40.159
<v Speaker 1>post about this in my blog site.

2980
02:32:40.239 --> 02:32:42.959
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh did you Okay, so then you were aware

2981
02:32:43.000 --> 02:32:45.559
<v Speaker 2>that the family had a friend named bear?

2982
02:32:47.239 --> 02:32:49.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.

2983
02:32:49.840 --> 02:32:52.120
<v Speaker 2>So but people are saying, oh, no, it's not true.

2984
02:32:52.159 --> 02:32:54.079
<v Speaker 2>They didn't have a friend named bear. You know, it

2985
02:32:54.200 --> 02:32:56.000
<v Speaker 2>was Bigfoot that took the kid and took care of

2986
02:32:56.079 --> 02:32:58.159
<v Speaker 2>the kid and then brought it back. And I'm like, well,

2987
02:32:58.159 --> 02:32:59.760
<v Speaker 2>why would bring Bigfoot bring it back?

2988
02:32:59.799 --> 02:32:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Though?

2989
02:33:00.319 --> 02:33:01.799
<v Speaker 2>If it's got a kid, I'm not going to be like,

2990
02:33:01.840 --> 02:33:03.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, hey, I'm going to go and bring this

2991
02:33:03.239 --> 02:33:05.360
<v Speaker 2>kid back. Even though I have no idea where you live,

2992
02:33:05.399 --> 02:33:08.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm still going to bring you back. I mean, would

2993
02:33:08.280 --> 02:33:10.840
<v Speaker 2>be like, oh, easy food joint, I'm.

2994
02:33:10.760 --> 02:33:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Out here now. I did take one thing I'll back

2995
02:33:14.440 --> 02:33:16.840
<v Speaker 1>up on now. The one thing I was not aware

2996
02:33:16.920 --> 02:33:19.079
<v Speaker 1>of is that the family had a friend and they

2997
02:33:19.200 --> 02:33:23.040
<v Speaker 1>referred to or called bear. Yeah, that I did not

2998
02:33:23.479 --> 02:33:28.319
<v Speaker 1>I was not aware of now when the story was like, yeah,

2999
02:33:28.479 --> 02:33:31.040
<v Speaker 1>it was a mysterious story because it was weird that

3000
02:33:31.200 --> 02:33:33.559
<v Speaker 1>it got the gout taken in some man these directions.

3001
02:33:33.680 --> 02:33:37.079
<v Speaker 1>But the way I looked at it too, is like, okay,

3002
02:33:37.959 --> 02:33:40.520
<v Speaker 1>it was I wasn't. I don't know. I didn't know

3003
02:33:40.559 --> 02:33:43.239
<v Speaker 1>where to stand on this because you know, of course,

3004
02:33:43.280 --> 02:33:47.000
<v Speaker 1>the boys claim was yeah it was a bear. You know,

3005
02:33:47.079 --> 02:33:49.399
<v Speaker 1>he was gone for what three or four days? And

3006
02:33:49.719 --> 02:33:52.399
<v Speaker 1>I've reappeared and he looked like he was out in

3007
02:33:52.479 --> 02:33:55.079
<v Speaker 1>the out in the woods. He wasn't cleansed and nothing

3008
02:33:55.239 --> 02:34:02.280
<v Speaker 1>but right, But so you know, the thing is he

3009
02:34:02.440 --> 02:34:06.159
<v Speaker 1>was a young child and his understanding of a bear

3010
02:34:06.440 --> 02:34:09.639
<v Speaker 1>was a bear, you know, and not knowing it like, hey,

3011
02:34:09.719 --> 02:34:11.840
<v Speaker 1>could it had been a big whit because you know,

3012
02:34:12.680 --> 02:34:15.479
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the thing is, I don't recall, like now

3013
02:34:15.520 --> 02:34:17.479
<v Speaker 1>that you bring that up, I wasn't aware of that

3014
02:34:17.680 --> 02:34:20.719
<v Speaker 1>because but the question that jumps up to my mind

3015
02:34:20.799 --> 02:34:23.239
<v Speaker 1>right now is why does this guy keep him for

3016
02:34:23.319 --> 02:34:26.159
<v Speaker 1>three or four days or you know, not not return

3017
02:34:26.239 --> 02:34:26.760
<v Speaker 1>him right away?

3018
02:34:26.920 --> 02:34:29.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean, I got the friend it has

3019
02:34:29.680 --> 02:34:31.760
<v Speaker 2>a mental condition. He's mentally ill. I don't know if

3020
02:34:31.760 --> 02:34:35.120
<v Speaker 2>it's down syndrome or what. So maybe he just, you know,

3021
02:34:35.200 --> 02:34:39.239
<v Speaker 2>didn't know the right thing to do. Oh okay, Yeah,

3022
02:34:39.840 --> 02:34:41.840
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the stories get convoluted. I mean, remember

3023
02:34:41.840 --> 02:34:44.559
<v Speaker 2>when the little kid was killed by bolls a couple

3024
02:34:44.600 --> 02:34:47.040
<v Speaker 2>of years back. He was dragged up all.

3025
02:34:47.799 --> 02:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Wait, what was it about. I'm not familiar. I'm not

3026
02:34:49.559 --> 02:34:50.360
<v Speaker 1>familiar with this one.

3027
02:34:50.680 --> 02:34:50.959
<v Speaker 4>Okay.

3028
02:34:51.000 --> 02:34:53.600
<v Speaker 2>So there's a little boy that was killed not too

3029
02:34:53.680 --> 02:34:56.520
<v Speaker 2>far from his house and he was dragged up the

3030
02:34:56.600 --> 02:35:00.239
<v Speaker 2>hill and instantly everybody's jumping on it, saying that dog

3031
02:35:00.360 --> 02:35:03.440
<v Speaker 2>man killed this little boy. Now I have friends that

3032
02:35:03.520 --> 02:35:05.360
<v Speaker 2>looked into it, and they were saying, no, it.

3033
02:35:05.479 --> 02:35:06.319
<v Speaker 1>Wasn't a dog man.

3034
02:35:06.399 --> 02:35:09.120
<v Speaker 2>It was pit bulls that actually got out and they

3035
02:35:09.200 --> 02:35:11.799
<v Speaker 2>got a hold of this boy. And yeah, unfortunately they

3036
02:35:11.879 --> 02:35:14.760
<v Speaker 2>killed a small kid. And it got so bad, Daniel,

3037
02:35:14.840 --> 02:35:16.479
<v Speaker 2>it got so bad at the dog man stuff because

3038
02:35:16.479 --> 02:35:19.760
<v Speaker 2>people were making videos after videos after videos about it.

3039
02:35:20.040 --> 02:35:22.000
<v Speaker 2>People were making all these posts and a dog man

3040
02:35:22.079 --> 02:35:25.040
<v Speaker 2>killed this little boy. The little boy's mom actually went

3041
02:35:25.079 --> 02:35:27.479
<v Speaker 2>into some of these groups and she was begging everybody,

3042
02:35:27.840 --> 02:35:30.319
<v Speaker 2>please stop, for the love of God, my seven year

3043
02:35:30.360 --> 02:35:32.840
<v Speaker 2>old boy was killed not by a dog man, but

3044
02:35:32.920 --> 02:35:35.239
<v Speaker 2>by an actual pack of dogs. And you guys are

3045
02:35:35.360 --> 02:35:38.959
<v Speaker 2>using his death to make views for your YouTube. Stop

3046
02:35:39.079 --> 02:35:40.920
<v Speaker 2>doing this. And they kept doing with Daniel.

3047
02:35:41.840 --> 02:35:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's that.

3048
02:35:44.360 --> 02:35:46.239
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was disgusting. I actually made a post

3049
02:35:46.280 --> 02:35:48.159
<v Speaker 2>a long time back, and I took a lot of

3050
02:35:48.239 --> 02:35:49.840
<v Speaker 2>heat for it because even some of my friends were

3051
02:35:49.879 --> 02:35:52.120
<v Speaker 2>making videos of it, and I told him, you all

3052
02:35:52.159 --> 02:35:54.680
<v Speaker 2>are disgusting. The mom had to come forward during her

3053
02:35:54.760 --> 02:35:57.760
<v Speaker 2>time aggrieving to stop you guys from spreading lives about

3054
02:35:57.760 --> 02:36:00.719
<v Speaker 2>her boy's death. There's something wrong with that. When you're

3055
02:36:00.719 --> 02:36:03.479
<v Speaker 2>more worried about views and morality, you need to step

3056
02:36:03.559 --> 02:36:06.319
<v Speaker 2>back and go, Okay, it's too soon, we don't know

3057
02:36:06.440 --> 02:36:08.760
<v Speaker 2>the facts. You know, let's not make a video about it.

3058
02:36:09.040 --> 02:36:10.520
<v Speaker 2>But when the mom came out and said it was

3059
02:36:10.559 --> 02:36:12.680
<v Speaker 2>a pack of pitbulls that did it, that's when you

3060
02:36:12.680 --> 02:36:14.920
<v Speaker 2>should have stopped completely right.

3061
02:36:15.879 --> 02:36:16.159
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

3062
02:36:16.559 --> 02:36:20.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that kind of reminds me of I'm going to

3063
02:36:20.719 --> 02:36:22.920
<v Speaker 1>tell you I'll bring this up. I got some friends

3064
02:36:22.959 --> 02:36:24.840
<v Speaker 1>of mine, I don't know if they don't really associate

3065
02:36:24.920 --> 02:36:26.440
<v Speaker 1>with me. They don't reach out to me no more.

3066
02:36:26.559 --> 02:36:30.120
<v Speaker 1>They actually kind of shut me down. Even though the

3067
02:36:30.200 --> 02:36:33.799
<v Speaker 1>friends of mine, they would use every possible content for

3068
02:36:34.000 --> 02:36:38.520
<v Speaker 1>views and they would make it. They would bring up videos,

3069
02:36:38.559 --> 02:36:42.040
<v Speaker 1>and they started using certain content and supporting it just

3070
02:36:42.159 --> 02:36:45.639
<v Speaker 1>to get their views. Because their YouTube channel exploded. They

3071
02:36:45.680 --> 02:36:48.319
<v Speaker 1>probably have over well over twenty thousand subscribers on the

3072
02:36:48.399 --> 02:36:51.920
<v Speaker 1>YouTube panel. Well, I started questioning some of the stuff. Yeah,

3073
02:36:52.319 --> 02:36:53.239
<v Speaker 1>there's probably more than.

3074
02:36:53.239 --> 02:36:53.600
<v Speaker 4>That by now.

3075
02:36:53.639 --> 02:36:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I haven't looked into it in a couple of years,

3076
02:36:56.040 --> 02:36:58.680
<v Speaker 1>but they're probably much larger than that. They make their

3077
02:36:58.719 --> 02:37:02.479
<v Speaker 1>money off of YouTube. But what I when I started

3078
02:37:02.520 --> 02:37:05.559
<v Speaker 1>pointing stuff out and presenting things and share it, speaking

3079
02:37:05.680 --> 02:37:09.120
<v Speaker 1>up about it. Yeah, my buddy's wife spoke about it.

3080
02:37:09.200 --> 02:37:11.479
<v Speaker 1>Why he's She was like, why you why are you

3081
02:37:12.000 --> 02:37:14.799
<v Speaker 1>making you know, the boys look bad? Blah blah blah.

3082
02:37:15.399 --> 02:37:17.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I'm questioning it. I'm presenting it. It's like,

3083
02:37:18.239 --> 02:37:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't like that. Why you're trying to do that?

3084
02:37:19.879 --> 02:37:22.360
<v Speaker 1>And you know we all want to make money, but

3085
02:37:22.680 --> 02:37:25.520
<v Speaker 1>don't you're doing about it the wrong way? Is in

3086
02:37:25.600 --> 02:37:29.360
<v Speaker 1>my opinion, I say, offended me. It really did. It

3087
02:37:29.520 --> 02:37:33.559
<v Speaker 1>was offensive to me, and I'll speak, I'll say it.

3088
02:37:34.159 --> 02:37:37.520
<v Speaker 1>But you know, they the North Carolina squatch watchers. I

3089
02:37:37.680 --> 02:37:40.239
<v Speaker 1>love them, guy, but yet, why you got to present

3090
02:37:40.319 --> 02:37:42.280
<v Speaker 1>the ship just to make views?

3091
02:37:43.159 --> 02:37:45.959
<v Speaker 2>Well a lot of them of them will take anything

3092
02:37:46.040 --> 02:37:49.239
<v Speaker 2>and support it just to make the money, right.

3093
02:37:50.760 --> 02:37:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean again, we all want to make money, but

3094
02:37:53.120 --> 02:37:57.079
<v Speaker 1>stop getting popularity over fake ship, you know, and making

3095
02:37:57.159 --> 02:37:58.719
<v Speaker 1>something out more than what it really is.

3096
02:37:59.079 --> 02:37:59.280
<v Speaker 4>You know.

3097
02:38:00.399 --> 02:38:04.520
<v Speaker 1>But I mean I presented a few things. I'm doing

3098
02:38:04.799 --> 02:38:07.920
<v Speaker 1>YouTube video short stuff. You know that's not you know,

3099
02:38:09.319 --> 02:38:11.399
<v Speaker 1>I've done the same thing they've done, you know, and

3100
02:38:11.639 --> 02:38:14.360
<v Speaker 1>you know I got I got criticized for it. You're

3101
02:38:14.440 --> 02:38:18.600
<v Speaker 1>using someone else's content to get views, you know. So yeah,

3102
02:38:18.719 --> 02:38:21.360
<v Speaker 1>I'll think I'm guilty of it because it's like, hey,

3103
02:38:21.680 --> 02:38:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I tried it for a short while to see what

3104
02:38:23.760 --> 02:38:26.120
<v Speaker 1>it did. It didn't get me nowhere. But they've been

3105
02:38:26.159 --> 02:38:29.479
<v Speaker 1>doing it enough where all these gumbible people were like, hey,

3106
02:38:30.000 --> 02:38:33.440
<v Speaker 1>they watched their ship and subscribe to them because you know,

3107
02:38:33.959 --> 02:38:35.879
<v Speaker 1>that's that's their source of content, you know.

3108
02:38:36.879 --> 02:38:38.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that's what You're gonna be the honest guy.

3109
02:38:38.959 --> 02:38:40.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, you got to be the one that does

3110
02:38:40.040 --> 02:38:43.040
<v Speaker 2>the actual research. You don't use wias to get views.

3111
02:38:43.120 --> 02:38:45.559
<v Speaker 2>You just you know, you present the honest stuff to

3112
02:38:45.639 --> 02:38:48.239
<v Speaker 2>get the views. Either people are interested or they want

3113
02:38:48.319 --> 02:38:49.040
<v Speaker 2>as simple as that.

3114
02:38:50.719 --> 02:38:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, absolutely. I mean, like my my Facebook group,

3115
02:38:53.719 --> 02:38:56.120
<v Speaker 1>my main ECBR group, I bet. I mean I can

3116
02:38:56.159 --> 02:38:59.360
<v Speaker 1>probably have over twenty fiousand subscribers. It's not more. But

3117
02:38:59.479 --> 02:39:03.000
<v Speaker 1>over the years, I kept cleaning my content my people

3118
02:39:03.079 --> 02:39:05.520
<v Speaker 1>involved in that because either they were inactive or they

3119
02:39:05.559 --> 02:39:08.200
<v Speaker 1>were just bogus people that I didn't want present the

3120
02:39:08.319 --> 02:39:11.639
<v Speaker 1>stupid shit. There you go, And it's the same thing

3121
02:39:11.680 --> 02:39:14.120
<v Speaker 1>with myself. My YouTube subscribers I got. I just hit

3122
02:39:14.559 --> 02:39:16.559
<v Speaker 1>just a little over thirty nine hundred subscribers for the

3123
02:39:16.639 --> 02:39:18.760
<v Speaker 1>first time. I mean, I've had my YouTube channel for

3124
02:39:19.360 --> 02:39:23.760
<v Speaker 1>since what twenty thirteen, fourteen somewhere around there, and uh,

3125
02:39:23.920 --> 02:39:26.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean I should have way more than I have.

3126
02:39:26.719 --> 02:39:30.200
<v Speaker 1>But because I don't produce the fake stuff. I mean,

3127
02:39:30.799 --> 02:39:34.879
<v Speaker 1>it seems like these fake YouTube channels, I think, stuff

3128
02:39:34.920 --> 02:39:40.760
<v Speaker 1>that they want to promote hoaxers. Yeah, all the all

3129
02:39:40.799 --> 02:39:45.040
<v Speaker 1>the fake channels get the more subscribers. Over the years,

3130
02:39:45.079 --> 02:39:47.120
<v Speaker 1>I come to I come to the realizing, like I'd

3131
02:39:47.200 --> 02:39:51.959
<v Speaker 1>rather have quality over quantity. Same thing as my broupy exactly.

3132
02:39:52.799 --> 02:39:55.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not perfect, Ryan, I'm I'm far I'm

3133
02:39:55.840 --> 02:40:00.440
<v Speaker 1>by far perfect, aren't anything, but sure, you know, but

3134
02:40:00.639 --> 02:40:02.520
<v Speaker 1>you know that's the way it goes. I mean, we're

3135
02:40:02.520 --> 02:40:04.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna you have to take it with, you know, take

3136
02:40:04.879 --> 02:40:05.319
<v Speaker 1>it the way it.

3137
02:40:05.479 --> 02:40:06.920
<v Speaker 4>Is, but it is what it is.

3138
02:40:07.799 --> 02:40:11.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm very romantic about cryptosiology. I'm very attached to it

3139
02:40:11.239 --> 02:40:13.319
<v Speaker 2>and very fond of it. So when I see somebody

3140
02:40:13.360 --> 02:40:15.600
<v Speaker 2>making a mockery of it, I do take it very personal.

3141
02:40:15.760 --> 02:40:16.680
<v Speaker 2>I get very offensive.

3142
02:40:16.760 --> 02:40:16.879
<v Speaker 4>Right.

3143
02:40:19.200 --> 02:40:23.479
<v Speaker 1>Oh, absolutely, I have stepped back to a certain extent.

3144
02:40:23.639 --> 02:40:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean I don't comment as much, but sometimes when

3145
02:40:27.959 --> 02:40:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I see things that are very obvious that I know

3146
02:40:30.000 --> 02:40:31.399
<v Speaker 1>for a fact right off the top of my head

3147
02:40:31.440 --> 02:40:34.719
<v Speaker 1>that a fake, before I comment, I'll produce something. I'll

3148
02:40:34.760 --> 02:40:36.760
<v Speaker 1>add a comment or a picture or an image or

3149
02:40:37.159 --> 02:40:39.319
<v Speaker 1>or an article in there or whatever it might be,

3150
02:40:40.079 --> 02:40:42.559
<v Speaker 1>to show, hey, this is what the original, this is

3151
02:40:42.600 --> 02:40:44.319
<v Speaker 1>what you're sharing, but this is what the this is

3152
02:40:44.360 --> 02:40:48.159
<v Speaker 1>what it belongs to you, right, that's the way. Yeah,

3153
02:40:48.239 --> 02:40:51.280
<v Speaker 1>look look at the uh look at the big foot

3154
02:40:51.760 --> 02:40:55.200
<v Speaker 1>thumb or or thumb or toe or whatever it can

3155
02:40:55.559 --> 02:41:00.319
<v Speaker 1>that was going around. Yeah, And I was like, okay, Well,

3156
02:41:00.360 --> 02:41:03.079
<v Speaker 1>first of all, when I realized somebody else, somebody else

3157
02:41:03.159 --> 02:41:05.239
<v Speaker 1>later on pointed out to me, read the name of

3158
02:41:05.280 --> 02:41:08.639
<v Speaker 1>the doctor's name in the article. If you read it backwards,

3159
02:41:08.719 --> 02:41:14.920
<v Speaker 1>it's doctor Phony Blooney. Wow. So yeah, yeah, it took

3160
02:41:14.959 --> 02:41:16.280
<v Speaker 1>me a while to pick up on that, but somebody

3161
02:41:16.360 --> 02:41:19.079
<v Speaker 1>pointed out to me, read the doctor's name backwards. I said, what,

3162
02:41:19.920 --> 02:41:21.920
<v Speaker 1>So I read the article and I I saw it

3163
02:41:22.079 --> 02:41:25.399
<v Speaker 1>mentioned a doctor's name that was putting it out there.

3164
02:41:26.319 --> 02:41:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Well it was doctor phony balooney if you spell me, yeah,

3165
02:41:32.000 --> 02:41:35.520
<v Speaker 1>if you fell out, it spelled the name backwards, that's

3166
02:41:35.559 --> 02:41:38.879
<v Speaker 1>what it pronounced, or I was pronounced yeah, doctor Phoney ballooney.

3167
02:41:39.360 --> 02:41:43.079
<v Speaker 1>But even apart from that, I was showing that, hey, okay,

3168
02:41:43.239 --> 02:41:46.600
<v Speaker 1>this bake big put thumb. Look here you could buy

3169
02:41:46.639 --> 02:41:49.680
<v Speaker 1>these on it si or whatever they were for sale.

3170
02:41:50.360 --> 02:41:53.159
<v Speaker 1>They were they were very calmon. You could buy them

3171
02:41:53.200 --> 02:41:57.079
<v Speaker 1>on online. Some of them were being sold as key chain.

3172
02:41:57.680 --> 02:42:02.440
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so there's all this bogus stuff that's going around. Like,

3173
02:42:02.840 --> 02:42:06.319
<v Speaker 1>I'll dig and look into everything as much as possible

3174
02:42:06.520 --> 02:42:10.719
<v Speaker 1>if and if I can find something that discredits it. Dan, Right,

3175
02:42:10.799 --> 02:42:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna post it. That's what you should do, right,

3176
02:42:15.360 --> 02:42:17.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's what everybody should do. Everybody should be willing.

3177
02:42:18.040 --> 02:42:20.680
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing question everything. Don't accept everything that's presented

3178
02:42:20.680 --> 02:42:23.239
<v Speaker 1>on social media. Social media, because AI, as we were

3179
02:42:23.239 --> 02:42:26.479
<v Speaker 1>talking about earlier, AI is destroying what we're doing.

3180
02:42:27.079 --> 02:42:28.639
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, AI is gonna be the bane of it.

3181
02:42:28.719 --> 02:42:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Man.

3182
02:42:28.879 --> 02:42:31.159
<v Speaker 2>The way that people are coming up with videos and everything,

3183
02:42:31.639 --> 02:42:33.920
<v Speaker 2>it's going to make it very, very difficult for all

3184
02:42:34.000 --> 02:42:34.239
<v Speaker 2>of us.

3185
02:42:35.760 --> 02:42:39.879
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, it's sad. It's very sad, but it's true.

3186
02:42:40.680 --> 02:42:44.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, sadly, Yeah, absolutely.

3187
02:42:45.000 --> 02:42:48.120
<v Speaker 1>So tell you what, Ryan, we're coming to a close.

3188
02:42:48.520 --> 02:42:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Before we're go any further, I wanted to give Melissa

3189
02:42:51.600 --> 02:42:53.520
<v Speaker 1>David a chance that you guys have any other questions

3190
02:42:53.559 --> 02:42:55.000
<v Speaker 1>for Ryan before we jump off here.

3191
02:42:59.760 --> 02:43:00.520
<v Speaker 2>I think he's muted.

3192
02:43:03.799 --> 02:43:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Uhh, yeah, I don't hear you, guys, David. Listen, you

3193
02:43:11.040 --> 02:43:12.319
<v Speaker 1>guys are quiet. I don't hear nothing.

3194
02:43:12.719 --> 02:43:13.319
<v Speaker 4>You guys might.

3195
02:43:15.760 --> 02:43:24.200
<v Speaker 1>You might have to unmute yourself. Hmm, oh they were muted.

3196
02:43:24.760 --> 02:43:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I can't I mute your guess. Mike isn't connected? Your

3197
02:43:28.719 --> 02:43:32.319
<v Speaker 1>mic is I'm trying to mean it gives me the

3198
02:43:32.399 --> 02:43:35.920
<v Speaker 1>option to unmute you guys, but it says, can't umute

3199
02:43:35.959 --> 02:43:37.680
<v Speaker 1>your guess. The mic isn't connected.

3200
02:43:38.159 --> 02:43:38.479
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

3201
02:43:38.559 --> 02:43:39.000
<v Speaker 1>That's weird.

3202
02:43:39.120 --> 02:43:40.879
<v Speaker 2>Oh your microphone is just connected, guys.

3203
02:43:42.079 --> 02:43:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you might have to connect yourself. You guys are unconnected.

3204
02:43:47.479 --> 02:43:54.159
<v Speaker 2>There you go, yep, No, I hear some kind of feedback.

3205
02:43:55.559 --> 02:44:01.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm hearing the two Can you hear me? Now?

3206
02:44:02.200 --> 02:44:05.719
<v Speaker 1>There you go, there you go, We got you, we

3207
02:44:05.920 --> 02:44:06.239
<v Speaker 1>got you.

3208
02:44:07.920 --> 02:44:08.280
<v Speaker 3>I just.

3209
02:44:11.440 --> 02:44:14.520
<v Speaker 1>That's weird, Yeah, because I haven't been touching my device.

3210
02:44:15.399 --> 02:44:19.959
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, anyway, it's probably Henry that yeah.

3211
02:44:22.319 --> 02:44:25.840
<v Speaker 1>To a band. So yeah, David, listen, you guys have

3212
02:44:25.959 --> 02:44:28.879
<v Speaker 1>anything else you want to share or ask Ryan before

3213
02:44:28.920 --> 02:44:29.799
<v Speaker 1>we come to a close.

3214
02:44:30.639 --> 02:44:32.840
<v Speaker 4>No, not at this time. Maybe we'll meet up against

3215
02:44:32.840 --> 02:44:34.000
<v Speaker 4>sometime hopefully.

3216
02:44:36.239 --> 02:44:38.399
<v Speaker 1>Oh for sure, We'll definitely have to. We definitely have

3217
02:44:38.479 --> 02:44:41.440
<v Speaker 1>to have Ryan back here. This has been a great discussion.

3218
02:44:41.559 --> 02:44:44.879
<v Speaker 1>We've been on here for well over two hours almost.

3219
02:44:45.079 --> 02:44:48.719
<v Speaker 1>We're approaching three hours, so this is already time. Yeah,

3220
02:44:49.760 --> 02:44:53.040
<v Speaker 1>oh for sure. How about you, Ryan, Is there anything

3221
02:44:53.040 --> 02:44:55.319
<v Speaker 1>you want to prove out there or share before we

3222
02:44:55.520 --> 02:44:57.079
<v Speaker 1>come to a close. Yeah.

3223
02:44:57.200 --> 02:44:58.719
<v Speaker 2>I just want to tell everybody to be on the

3224
02:44:58.760 --> 02:45:00.879
<v Speaker 2>lookout for my Wind to Go book that's gonna be

3225
02:45:01.360 --> 02:45:04.319
<v Speaker 2>published pretty soon. I'm hoping by the end of next

3226
02:45:04.440 --> 02:45:07.120
<v Speaker 2>month with fingers crussed, and then after that I'll have

3227
02:45:07.319 --> 02:45:10.559
<v Speaker 2>a Skinwalker book. Then following that is going to be

3228
02:45:10.719 --> 02:45:14.000
<v Speaker 2>the folklore of various indigenous tribes. So I'm gonna have

3229
02:45:14.079 --> 02:45:15.440
<v Speaker 2>three books coming out this year.

3230
02:45:15.840 --> 02:45:18.639
<v Speaker 1>So be on the lookout for that nice, very nice,

3231
02:45:19.319 --> 02:45:22.120
<v Speaker 1>and tell tell everybody where they can find you and

3232
02:45:22.200 --> 02:45:23.760
<v Speaker 1>where will this content be found? There?

3233
02:45:24.440 --> 02:45:28.719
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you can find me on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram. Just

3234
02:45:28.840 --> 02:45:31.639
<v Speaker 2>look for Ryan Paul Trembley. You'll see my name. You'll

3235
02:45:31.639 --> 02:45:33.559
<v Speaker 2>say the wind to go guy. So if you want

3236
02:45:33.600 --> 02:45:35.959
<v Speaker 2>to just add me up and start up conversation. I'm

3237
02:45:36.200 --> 02:45:39.479
<v Speaker 2>always about the combo. I love talking to people, So yeah,

3238
02:45:39.639 --> 02:45:41.000
<v Speaker 2>hit me up and we can have some talks.

3239
02:45:42.319 --> 02:45:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Sweet sweet, sweet sweet, And ladies, gentlemen, we're gonna have

3240
02:45:45.639 --> 02:45:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Ryan back with us here at the near future. We're

3241
02:45:47.440 --> 02:45:50.040
<v Speaker 1>definitely gonna have a talk to He is full of knowledge.

3242
02:45:50.159 --> 02:45:53.120
<v Speaker 1>It has a lot of information. He knows his research

3243
02:45:53.360 --> 02:45:57.879
<v Speaker 1>very well. With that being said, ladies and gentlemen, we

3244
02:45:57.959 --> 02:46:00.920
<v Speaker 1>can't express enough how thankful we offer you tune in

3245
02:46:01.040 --> 02:46:05.319
<v Speaker 1>and listening. If you're not a follower of ECBR Bigfoot Radio,

3246
02:46:05.959 --> 02:46:08.760
<v Speaker 1>you to do so. Now. There's some events if we

3247
02:46:08.799 --> 02:46:11.000
<v Speaker 1>want to share with you before we go offline. Here,

3248
02:46:12.040 --> 02:46:17.280
<v Speaker 1>ladies and gentlemen, keep a squatchy until next time. I'm

3249
02:46:17.319 --> 02:46:21.319
<v Speaker 1>your host, Daniel Benoir, and listen to our upcoming events. Hopefully,

3250
02:46:21.360 --> 02:46:25.440
<v Speaker 1>if you can't be there, plan ahead, and here we go,

3251
02:46:25.920 --> 02:46:29.959
<v Speaker 1>DCBRO Bigfoot radio fans, it's time to grab your pens,

3252
02:46:30.399 --> 02:46:33.280
<v Speaker 1>your calendars and start writing down these dates for these

3253
02:46:33.360 --> 02:46:37.360
<v Speaker 1>upcoming events. In the twenty twenty five year, February, a

3254
02:46:37.639 --> 02:46:40.719
<v Speaker 1>v ECBRO is hosting a big Foot in lunch gathering

3255
02:46:41.239 --> 02:46:45.959
<v Speaker 1>in Lexington, Virginia, happening at the Legendary Eats Cafe. If

3256
02:46:46.000 --> 02:46:48.000
<v Speaker 1>you have a Bigfoot story, or if you're just a

3257
02:46:48.120 --> 02:46:49.959
<v Speaker 1>fan of Bigfoot and you want to learn what's going

3258
02:46:50.000 --> 02:46:52.959
<v Speaker 1>on with the ECBRO and I know who they are

3259
02:46:53.079 --> 02:46:56.000
<v Speaker 1>and what they do, this event's for you. It's a

3260
02:46:56.079 --> 02:46:58.319
<v Speaker 1>free event. The only thing is going to cost you

3261
02:46:58.399 --> 02:47:02.040
<v Speaker 1>if you want to buy off menu and enjoy a

3262
02:47:02.280 --> 02:47:07.079
<v Speaker 1>delicious meal while you sit among other researchers. All right,

3263
02:47:07.120 --> 02:47:09.479
<v Speaker 1>Moving ahead in the month of March. March twenty ninth

3264
02:47:09.600 --> 02:47:13.120
<v Speaker 1>is a pen Ohio pronomal Con happening at the Timoty

3265
02:47:13.159 --> 02:47:18.280
<v Speaker 1>Banquith Center and Creable, Ohio. Yes, that is also sponsored

3266
02:47:18.319 --> 02:47:23.159
<v Speaker 1>and hosted by mister Bill Rigby. All Right, jumping ahead

3267
02:47:23.479 --> 02:47:27.000
<v Speaker 1>into the month of June. Boy, do we have some

3268
02:47:27.200 --> 02:47:30.799
<v Speaker 1>awesome stuff going on in June. Again. I hope you're

3269
02:47:30.799 --> 02:47:33.760
<v Speaker 1>marking this down and I hope you prepare yourself to

3270
02:47:33.879 --> 02:47:41.520
<v Speaker 1>attend these events. June sixth, seventh, and eighth Happening in Marionville, Pennsylvania,

3271
02:47:42.000 --> 02:47:46.159
<v Speaker 1>the Forest County Bigfoot Festival. The event that's grown so

3272
02:47:46.600 --> 02:47:50.959
<v Speaker 1>huge it's unbelievable. You're going to want to attend this event.

3273
02:47:51.200 --> 02:47:56.639
<v Speaker 1>Over one hundred vendors, food trucks, and guest speakers. This

3274
02:47:56.920 --> 02:47:59.920
<v Speaker 1>event is something you want to attend, not to mention.

3275
02:48:00.000 --> 02:48:02.840
<v Speaker 1>And if you'd like to go squatching. There is the

3276
02:48:02.959 --> 02:48:05.959
<v Speaker 1>Allegaty National State Forest nearby. You're gonna want to check

3277
02:48:06.000 --> 02:48:12.760
<v Speaker 1>that forest out. It's very squatching. June twentieth and twenty first,

3278
02:48:13.440 --> 02:48:17.360
<v Speaker 1>happening in Where's Cave, Virginia at the Where's K Community

3279
02:48:17.440 --> 02:48:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Center is the annual ECBRO Virginia big Foot Conference. Yes,

3280
02:48:22.680 --> 02:48:24.920
<v Speaker 1>it's right there, being held at the Community Center and

3281
02:48:24.959 --> 02:48:30.079
<v Speaker 1>Where's Cave, Virginia. Both indoor and outdoor vendors, guest speakers,

3282
02:48:30.639 --> 02:48:33.920
<v Speaker 1>fun activity and contest for the kids. You're gonna want

3283
02:48:33.920 --> 02:48:35.760
<v Speaker 1>to check this out. If you've never been to this event,

3284
02:48:35.840 --> 02:48:38.280
<v Speaker 1>it's very fun. You get to meet up with other

3285
02:48:38.399 --> 02:48:41.399
<v Speaker 1>light minded people, get to go out and hang out

3286
02:48:41.440 --> 02:48:44.079
<v Speaker 1>with them in the evenings around the fire. If you're

3287
02:48:44.360 --> 02:48:46.200
<v Speaker 1>can get that special invite, you get to have a

3288
02:48:46.280 --> 02:48:48.479
<v Speaker 1>lot more. You're gonna want to check that out and

3289
02:48:48.600 --> 02:48:51.399
<v Speaker 1>start becoming a part of that event because that is

3290
02:48:51.479 --> 02:48:54.559
<v Speaker 1>not just in an event, it's like a family gathering.

3291
02:48:55.280 --> 02:48:58.079
<v Speaker 1>That's June twentieth and twenty first, So feel free to

3292
02:48:58.200 --> 02:49:01.760
<v Speaker 1>check that out. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you guys again

3293
02:49:01.799 --> 02:49:04.760
<v Speaker 1>for listening to the CBR Break for Radio. I'm your

3294
02:49:04.799 --> 02:49:08.399
<v Speaker 1>host Daniel Binoa, and I want to thank Ryan Trimbly

3295
02:49:08.479 --> 02:49:11.680
<v Speaker 1>for being our guest tonight and we had a great discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to be back very soon. Uhy follow us

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<v Speaker 1>for upcoming content over the next day or two, there

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<v Speaker 1>will be more content being produced. So ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you guys again. H David and Melissa, Ryan, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you guys again for being here. And uh, we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely we'll be together here in the near future. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much more we can talk about discuss I

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<v Speaker 1>mean there's there's I don't think there's a little limit

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<v Speaker 1>on what we can discuss on this stuff here.

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<v Speaker 4>So we'll be well, we will see you Saturday morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds good. Sounds good. We're looking forward to it. So

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<v Speaker 1>you guys keeping keep it squatchy. Until next time, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>we're out.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a good one, guys,