Speaker 1: All Star Toyota presents Off the Bench with Jacob Hester
and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go where the.
Speaker 1: Plays get broken down and science gets denied.
Speaker 3: I got to come off the bench.
Speaker 1: Hour two of Off the Bench Live from the Mercedes
Benz Baton Rouge Studio starts now.
Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in our number two OTV one
oh four five, ESPN, Beton Rouge, Jacob Flynn, Elandre tete
Ah here with you on this Friday morning, getting the
weekend vibe started all over this place. Let's also continue
our OTV top twenty five.
Speaker 3: Look quick recap here.
Speaker 4: I remember twenty five, the Boys, You State Broncos at
number twenty four, the Memphis Tigers at twenty three, the
Baylor Bears at twenty two, the Georgia Tech Yellowjackets at
twenty one, the Tennessee Volunteers at twenty, the Iowa State Cyclones,
and at number nineteen, the Texas A and m Aggie's
better known as the Texas eight and four Aggies.
Speaker 3: Coming in at number eighteen.
Speaker 4: A team that made the cost Football Playoff a year ago,
a team that came out of nowhere, a team that's
best known for basketball.
Speaker 3: And he guesses I.
Speaker 2: Did go go ahead, Indiana.
Speaker 4: The Indiana Hoosiers coming in at number eighteen on the list.
I'm actually shocked you to do that.
Speaker 3: A saw Taylor's scream, So you're cheated.
Speaker 2: No, that was right there.
Speaker 4: Oh it's weird that there's a screen right there. I
wonder if that'll be there this afternoon.
Speaker 3: Curious is that still gonna be on the flour this afternoon?
Speaker 4: Probably not? Probably all fixed up. All right, Well, you cheated,
but yeah, you are right though it is. Indiana made
a playoff run. As I said a year ago, you
look at their schedule, they they got some tough games,
but the way that it's laid out, Indiana could be
a nine win team again. They have a lot of talent.
They're in the top ten and returning production in the country.
They've got three guys that were on different All American
teams on defense alone coming back to this squad, Fernando
Mendoza coming over from cal at the quarterback position. So
Rort had a great year last year. He's playing the
entire year on a torn acl by the way, and
didn't didn't really know it until later in the year,
and just continue to play. Shout out to him. That's
too gritty to be pretty. But Mendoza is a Sunday quarterback.
He's somebody that's gonna get drafted in the top four
rounds of the NFL draft. You go get him from Cal.
You add two tie end two receivers to what he
already had coming back. You had two running backs through
the transfer portal, and again you returned three players that
made different All American teams on defense. For the schedule,
you love the first three games Old Dominion, kinesssaus State,
and Indiana State, all at home. Now you've got a
tough one on September the twentieth. You've got to match
up with the Illinois Fighting Ali nine Old b Lava
come in to town. But again that game is in Bloomington.
It's going to be a home game and Memorial Stadium.
Now you do go on the road to the Iowa
Hawkeys on September the twenty seventh, but four straight home
games to open the season. You go on the road
to Iowa, so not crazy travel and then important bye
week here before you head across the country and go
play the Oregon Ducks.
Speaker 3: Some of these big ten matchups are going to be difficult.
Speaker 4: You're going to go to the West Coast, you're going
to go to southern California, you're going to go to
the Pacific Northwest. But if you had that, I mean
having a bye week before that after four out of
five home games feels like a great scenario for you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so last year they were kind of like the
bell of the ball for a majority of the season.
Speaker 2: They got I think I think game Day even visited them.
Speaker 5: Was at the Ohio State game where they where they
went to see him. Yeah, I can't remember exactly where
it was, but I remember seeing signetti, like on the
like he like some of the comments from his opening
presser when he not the presser, but when he addressed
the basketball crowd.
Speaker 2: When he was hired as a head coach.
Speaker 5: Just a lot of things that are like player first
mentality and has a proven track record now albeit at
like smaller universities before he got there, but like the
guy has a program builder. Hey he's turned I mean
Elon University. Yep, that's a that's a school.
Speaker 3: That's a school.
Speaker 5: Uniforms, we got helmets, they played tackle football then did
uh some really good things that James Madison so like
he's a.
Speaker 2: He's a proven head coach that knows how to build this.
Speaker 3: Man, google me last year. Uh huh.
Speaker 5: Okay, So he's kind of flexing all over the play.
Every time you put him in front of a microphan
it's like, hey, clip it and do I like it?
Do I not like it? And then I think at
the end of the day, most people are like, Okay,
yeah I like it. Yeah, it's it's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 5: I think the hype caught up with him last year.
The talent started to show through, but man, they were
for being his first year. I mean, what a what
a turnaround that That program was.
Speaker 3: A school that won like three games two years before.
Speaker 5: That, right, and he's done that same type of thing
at every point. All the smaller schools, they were all
struggling and he turned them around like fast. So that
shows me that guys play for him. He's a players,
a player's first coach, knows how to get the best
out of his guys, put them in position, and of
course he's got it. Seems like he should probably has
a good x's and o's scheme, So.
Speaker 2: I I would expect.
Speaker 5: Them to improve on last year. Now it's gonna be
hard for them to improve like the start that they
had last year, but their competition, how competitive they can
be against the big boys in the Big Ten. I
would I would expect to improve. Now I might not,
they might not jump that hurdle, but I expected it
be a little bit more competitive.
Speaker 4: After that Oregon game on the road on October the eleventh,
they come back home for two games Michigan State and UCLA,
probably gonna be favorites in both of those games. Then
you got a road test against Maryland. Maryland was picked,
see Purdue was the last. Maryland was next to last
in the preseason in Big Ten polls. So we'll see
if Locks can get his team anywhere anywhere in the
middle of the stadings. I think would be a big
win for Maryland. So again, like you go to Oregon,
but then you get two home games. You got a
road trip against Maryland where you're probably still going to
be the favorite, and then you got to go too
Penn State.
Speaker 3: You gotta go to Beaver Stadium.
Speaker 4: You give Wisconsin at home as well, Bye week, and
then at Purdue. So really you look look at Illinois
game early in the season, that one's at home. You
do have a trip to Oregon, but you have a
bye week before, you've got a trip.
Speaker 3: Two Penn State.
Speaker 4: But the three games before that, you're probably going to
be a favorite. At home against Michigan State, at home
versus UCLA, and on the road against Maryland. So I
mean nine to three feels incredibly realistic for Indiana, and
after making a playoff last year or they eleven to
one in the regular season, I know it's a step back,
but that kind of solidifies them as a program that's
going to be in the conversation and who knows, who
knows if they beat Illinois and find their way to
ten and two, they've added that kind of talent. I
know Mendoz is not a household name in the SEC.
He's a really good quarterback. He is going to get
drafted in the first four rounds of the NFL draft
if he continues down the same path. He's an upgrade
at that position. They went and got skill players, two
tight ends, two receivers, two backs in the portal and
again last time they returned three All Americans on defense.
Speaker 3: So I think Indiana. I think Indiana might be a.
Speaker 4: Football school because they've been great in basketball in a while.
Either shout out to Bob Knight out Steve Alford.
Speaker 2: Hey, I like to pick.
Speaker 3: I'm excited, Mike Woodson, Dan Dokis Indiana. Maybe it feels
like it Isaiah Thomas.
Speaker 2: That point for sure.
Speaker 3: Somebody give me something victory.
Speaker 6: Yep, it's an Indiana again, the Indiana he did go there?
Speaker 2: Who's who's the movie.
Speaker 3: That has nothing to do with Indiana?
Speaker 2: Yeh?
Speaker 3: But who's your the school that we're talking about?
Speaker 2: Who's your there?
Speaker 3: Can give me one?
Speaker 4: Give me, give me one player that played tackle football
for Indiana.
Speaker 3: Thank you. If you didn't get there, I was gonna
ask you to kindly leave.
Speaker 2: I actually shocked that I did get it.
Speaker 3: He was a human highlight when high school I know
he was.
Speaker 2: That was like primetime. Middle school of high school is primetime.
Remembering people's names for me.
Speaker 4: Anybody want to push back on Indiana being eighteenth ranked
team in the OTB Top twenty five?
Speaker 3: Do we agree? Too high? Too low? Where are we at?
Speaker 6: It's just right like you lose Curtis Roorcers starting quarterback,
but he's been a head coach for three years. As
far as major college like James Madison in Indiana, he's
thirty and six in three years, and like both of
those programs were terrible before he took over. Kurt Signetti wins.
Just ask him, google him, google that.
Speaker 3: All right, who's up next, Landra?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm next?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 7: Seventeen seventeen.
Speaker 6: That means that means our Matt Fillin Victor, he's gonna
get fifteen hard time, Dan.
Speaker 5: I don't think it's quite as embarrassing as Jake taking
eighteen because he brags about it a lot.
Speaker 2: He has a logo with eighteen.
Speaker 4: And it Oh wow, it's my foundation logo. I guess
you hate charity.
Speaker 2: Have you had that one before? Hey?
Speaker 4: That was a little quick And somebody, Hey, somebody in
this building is actually donated to the game more in
Jersey raffle that I've got going on from my foundation
at Hester Sports. Check that on on Twitter at Hester
Sports Foundation on Instagram. Somebody in this building actually donated.
And I appreciate you, sir, because my co host, Nah,
who did it?
Speaker 3: Not you give a shout out? I don't know. He
didn't say he wanted to shout out.
Speaker 2: Does it never stopped us.
Speaker 3: When it comes to charity, Matthew, Yes.
Speaker 7: You're right, some things don't need to be broadcasted.
Speaker 8: Yeah, like if I get money, I don't need to
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what Jake's trying to get me to tell
the world.
Speaker 7: That you donated.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get you to but.
Speaker 2: You did not if I did it anonymously.
Speaker 4: Because this isn't an anonymous situation because I created it
is anonymous, but I can see it and so.
Speaker 3: No Dragon, there's been no Dragon donations that would have
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Speaker 9: Get girl. You know it don't matter anyway.
Speaker 7: The old man money.
Speaker 3: You turned this Friday into a Hall of Notes concert.
Speaker 2: Yea, I wish about so many. Jake was like, you
got one.
Speaker 3: I said, I wonder read the love. I said, you know,
we want three, three and three. Now we're good.
Speaker 2: I say, we go as long as it will take us.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's what I do.
Speaker 7: I think there's still a couple more we can.
Speaker 4: Because you hate kids. Don't mean I hate music, Jesus,
I hate kids.
Speaker 2: Got three moon?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I guess that's the only ones in the
world in my eyes. Oh wow, Wow, guys, Wow.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sitting there.
Speaker 4: I'm sitting there last night and I'm going through my
card collection. I'm about to put a lot out there.
We got some cool Green Bay Packer cards right here.
I'm sitting there, and you know what, I'm I'm putting
penny sleeves and top loading some cards that aren't really
you know, worth the time, but I know they'd mean
something to a young huck Flynn.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about hut because you know what, I care about.
Speaker 4: All the kids. It's not just trick that loves of kids.
I do as well. We love kids here do TV.
I appreciate that you do.
Speaker 7: We're for the kids. I mean, I just raised a
bunch of money for kids. Raising money for kids too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you do all the time, O. TV is for
the kids, well most of us, three fourths of us.
Speaker 5: I don't know why or what happened between. But like
the slander, the child hating slander that has.
Speaker 3: Come to like I just had three fourths, it could
have been that hates kids. I don't know.
Speaker 7: I've never seen Taylor raise money for kids.
Speaker 3: That's true. I don't.
Speaker 2: I'll be honest. The only I have. Okay, okay, what
if they're a bad kids.
Speaker 7: To a baby shower this week?
Speaker 2: First of maybe they're a bad kid because I want
supporting them.
Speaker 3: That's true too.
Speaker 2: You know what, guys, maybe it is me. There's no
winning argument, right I have I ever.
Speaker 3: Told y'all know. I know I've said this on the air,
but I think it was years ago.
Speaker 4: So one of the things we do is we you know,
we raise money to give you know, socks and UH
pads and you know, just mouthpieces and like different things,
right for different organizations. Well, one year, this was living
up in Trueport, and so we got gloves for fourteen,
Like I got gloves like and they sent them off.
And the way I did it, it was just like
you know, generic glove. It was wasn't you know, it
wasn't a name brand. It was just like a generic.
Because you're ordering, you have sixty of them, and so
I go to UH to take them and I drop
them off and the guy that is given them to
the team, he's like, man, it was hilarious. I was like,
what do you mean.
Speaker 10: It's like when they opened the clubs up, they were like, man,
this isn't Adidas, this isn't Nike, this isn't under Armored,
this isn't even Newman's.
Speaker 3: What are these?
Speaker 2: I was a New Balance, not even New Balance. I
was like, what they were Russell?
Speaker 4: Like, you know, I don't even know what company they were,
I really don't, but they were just like a generic
all black.
Speaker 2: Find This is probably like before Amazon.
Speaker 4: That's where I like, that's where it was okay, like
not Amazon, but it was like something like that. It
was like, you know, you buy in bulk and you
get sixty pairs of gloves. It's still believe you me.
It was not cheap, but it was.
Speaker 3: I actually thought it was hilarious. I was like, that's funny.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like about Nike, not Adidas, he said, not
even human like they still know what Newman gloves are.
Speaker 8: The ogs Wait, so they were like complaining. I mean
what I like kind of how you complain about free
stuff kind.
Speaker 4: Of complaining, But more just I thought it was funny
because it was like looking for like a logo.
Speaker 11: Ain't a logo on those nowhere to be found? Have
a logo on those? There's the inside that tells you
they helped you catch a football? Hopefully they didn't, you know.
I mean again, they were well made.
Speaker 7: It used to be like, what are that's what he
was doing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, before what are those things?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: Look good? Feel good?
Speaker 5: Feel good, play good. But if they didn't feel like
they look good, they might not have felt good.
Speaker 3: Said you're thinking like maybe.
Speaker 4: Maybe that was maybe that was maybe that was me.
I'm looking right now.
Speaker 2: I hate the kids I got. Don't even get gloves
of logos on them.
Speaker 3: Okay, also, but they were purchased for them.
Speaker 2: Just good enough.
Speaker 4: I'm looking for the brand because.
Speaker 7: That would get them Nike gloves.
Speaker 4: Oh there they are, look right there, they all black ones.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 3: Look that's a nice glove. Four point five on Amazon
out of five.
Speaker 7: He did catch a couple.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the brand. It's not just it's rig wallrig
warl R all caps r I g W A r L.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Okay, but then all black gloves pretty sweet? Yeah
again four point five out of five.
Speaker 3: Seventeen ninety nine. Prepare, I mean it's truly not bad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna that's be grateful. I shud like like
I said, I thought it pretty funnyouldn't tell.
Speaker 3: Me that anyways. Any who's and he's just sure that
story looking for the logo.
Speaker 7: I mean those gloves look pretty okay, Yeah, they're good.
Speaker 4: They have an American flag version and everything.
Speaker 2: High quality stitching. I'm sure.
Speaker 3: I'm sure. When not even a newman, not even.
Speaker 6: I'm looking right now. They got some Dallas Cowboy ones,
which makes sense. It's probably the gloves they is. I
don't want to pay nobody.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, there we go. Look here's a pair.
Speaker 3: Look at those. You're looking at that blue glitter sparkles.
Speaker 5: I don't think that the stickier, the catching part is
supposed to be all shiny like that?
Speaker 3: Why not?
Speaker 2: That is some good stitching, though.
Speaker 4: Are Newman gloves still a thing? I think they are
at Bobby Bouchet's lawn, Moore. I think they are.
Speaker 3: I think they are.
Speaker 4: I think I hope that was the first glove.
Speaker 3: It was the first one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember the new Mans. We would They had
like the rain gloves, they had the leather ones, they
had the cold weather gloves. Yeah, I'm trying to remember
what the logo exactly looked like though.
Speaker 4: Right, they were great, big in just a big D.
That's all it had right there. So I had no colors, right,
it was just all just gray, gray is what I had. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 2: I never saw another color. Yeah.
Speaker 4: We also had never heard of Jane Beoree. So I
don't really know. I don't know if we trust you today.
Speaker 2: I don't know. This is there's something bad happened this week.
You're taking it out on me today.
Speaker 4: I've been a great mood of Lauder, right, good mood.
Speaker 6: I mean it appears that way. Yeah, I don't know
for sure.
Speaker 4: Very excited about the weekend, excited about preseason football, Saints Chargers.
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? It's pre season utopia?
Speaker 5: Oh we got Sanders starting football, starting for the Browns tonight.
Speaker 2: You think that'll be Do you think that'll be a
talking point today? I don't think.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm probably the first person to bring it up.
We'll try to highlight it next on Monday, just talking
like a.
Speaker 2: Half sag on it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll be.
Speaker 2: That'll be about it. You can't you won't be able
to catch break it down. Will mel Kiper be at
the game? Oh my god, with a jersey, with a
jersey he's painted.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no door painted on his body.
Speaker 3: So help me? Why is he starting? I know Dylan
Gaber has got a hamstring.
Speaker 2: Well eighty. Yeah, that's.
Speaker 5: Like they don't really need to see it. We don't
need to see one hundred. We don't need to see
what he can do out there.
Speaker 3: That's fair.
Speaker 6: They've actually signed he just signed a fifth quarterback. And
I'm trying to remember his yeah, Tyler Huntley, I.
Speaker 5: Mean Flacco's Flaco's NFL game take goes back to VHS
like he was.
Speaker 3: He's our year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's already.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I played with him at the Senior twenty. He
replaced Matt Ryan. I tell the story all the time.
He showed up khaki pants, Penny loafers, no socks, a
Polo company like, not a Polo shirt like the brand
Polo sweater vest Hard tucked into the khakis.
Speaker 2: Yep, absolutely at the combine.
Speaker 3: Row for but he went out there and slang that thing.
Speaker 5: He had a buttoned up plaid short sleeve computer Hard
duck out of the khakis at the combine with a tie,
didn't make it down to his waist.
Speaker 2: A tie with a short sleeve shirt, Yep, that's a fit. Yeah,
white socks and Penny loafers. And it was awesome though. Yeah, great, dude.
I'm sure his styles improved.
Speaker 5: I would think nobody's style was great in the two thousands,
not that not at that time wasn't great. Mine wasn't
great either, but his was timeless. Bad that one bad
in any era. But I'm sure it's improved a lot.
But man, what a what a legend. That man is
Joe Flacco. What a great his interview a couple of
weeks ago about like teaching the young kids. So now
that's not my job, they can watch me. I'm trying
to beat them out. It was a it was a
great response like that too.
Speaker 2: I loved it like that.
Speaker 5: Look, I'm not here to be their mentor, and people
get asked that a lot, and not everybody handles that
question the right way. But it's not like I'm I'm
here to make them better.
Speaker 3: I'll be a good teammate.
Speaker 2: That'll be a great teammate. Yah.
Speaker 5: I answered all the questions, but I'm not certainly not
gonna get me fired. I'm not going to offer the
advice of them to beat me out. Need all the
advantages I can.
Speaker 4: When you went to the combine went to the same year,
was there anybody that was out there that played your
position and you kind of thought to yourself a little bit.
I'm not saying that both confident guys or like, that's different.
I'm not sure I had that in the repertoire.
Speaker 2: Oh like in a good way?
Speaker 4: Yeah, like in a good way?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, oh I did. I would like a few
players after me, so I would do I would do whatever.
Speaker 4: I'd run the forty, I do the whatever i'd I'd
be circling back and Chris Johnson was behind me.
Speaker 6: It's better. It's better than having to go after Chris.
So at least you were in front of him.
Speaker 2: True, Like I.
Speaker 4: Knew who he was, but he went to East Carolina,
so it wasn't like this household name. Like I knew
a little bit about him, and I just remember thinking like, hell,
this guy from where'd he come from? Is this like
a five year vet that they let come to the combine.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: His first step was full speed, and.
Speaker 4: I do remember thinking like, uh, teams are gonna draft
us to maybe play the same position.
Speaker 3: Ye can be disappointed.
Speaker 5: I told you the story about me. We I trained
with him for the combine down at the world Wide
World of Sports. Quiet guy, very quiet guy, very nice guy.
But we were practicing our starts and doing ten yard
sprints and like, I'm not like I wouldn't blazing fast.
I wasn't certainly wasn't slow. He beat me at a
ten yard sprint by like six yards. Yeah, and just
think about that, we're not going that far. But like
you said his first step was full speed. Yep, so
six yards beat me.
Speaker 3: Shout out to our guy, Devin Snow.
Speaker 4: Inside the chat, he said, I knew you were gonna
say Chris Johnson, first guy I thought of around that time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dev, that was it was humbling.
Speaker 2: The opposite of Hester. Yep.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, it was humbling. I mean the opposite
of every person there. Now hold up, Now I did
have a faster aled drill than Chris Johnson.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, he wouldn't trying.
Speaker 3: Yeah I did.
Speaker 4: He's trying.
Speaker 3: These little short stuady legs will get choppy and quick,
real fast.
Speaker 11: They can make it nine a degree turn like you've
never seen never, like you've never seen before.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. But yeah, for the quarterbacks, this it's different.
I mean there wasn't anybody that was.
Speaker 5: I mean there's big arms, but like I was, I
played with JaMarcus for four years, so it's like I
didn't see any like bigger.
Speaker 2: Arm than him.
Speaker 5: Like Josh Johnson was the guy that did something different.
He ran a four to four as a quarterback and
the combine like that's different.
Speaker 4: But if you you're saying JaMarcus makes a lot of sense,
Like you had seen the biggest arm right in recent Maybe.
Speaker 5: Josh Johnson was a guy that at the combine, I
was like he didn't belong here, Like as far as
like not throwing, he's didn't throw it good at all
at the combine. But he's had an amazing career. He
just was one of those days where it just it
wasn't his thing, Like it just didn't look good that day.
Speaker 2: But he was. He's been a very good quarterback for
a long time.
Speaker 5: But its just I remember he's the one that stuck
out to me because so many scouts were hyping him
up to me, like I'm like, I don't care, like
I'm here.
Speaker 6: To get drafted myself, Like don't tell me about this other.
Speaker 5: Uy, And then I watched it and I was like
this guy nah No, But yeah, I think, yeah, Josh
awnen' is still playing it Commanders.
Speaker 3: He's played for almost every good fight, every team.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, He's played in different leagues and just continue
to find a way. Really really talented guy and found
a way. And it's not easy, not you know, the
backup quarterback job. And I mean, obviously I'm talking to Flynn,
but like you have to do certain things like you
have to have certain qualities and traits about you, of course,
like when it's your number, you gotta be ready to go.
Even if it's negative twenty two and they're calling a
fake punt, you got to be ready to go. But
there's really talented guys that didn't embrace that role and
they lasted like four years, five years, maybe six in
the league. Where a guy that embraces it and knows
what the situation is and is ready to go can
play eight, nine, ten, sometimes thirteen fourteen.
Speaker 2: Or let's see, in Josh Johnson's case, he's at.
Speaker 4: I don't know how many credited seasons, but we've been
out for this has.
Speaker 2: Got to be the seventeenth, seventeenth, third, sixteenth season. Yeah,
it's a good lowder retirement checked out there. Yep.
Speaker 4: Every year you get more money on the old vested
pension check.
Speaker 5: He's probably got one or two that doesn't count when
he was I don't know, he might be every year
because I know at a certain point this happened to
John coun in Green Bay. John Coon spent first two
or three years in Pittsburgh as a practice squad guy,
and then he spent seven more years on top, like
when he got to ten total years, but he had
seven vested seasons, but he had ten years in the NFL.
Speaker 2: All of once you get to ten.
Speaker 5: All of your practice squad years got added to your
total number counts. So he went from seven to ten
when hit when he hit game three after after the
third game of the season during his during his tenth year, Josh.
Speaker 6: Almost there there because he's credited with nine. This will
be year ten.
Speaker 2: That's crazy say that again.
Speaker 6: He's credited with nine because in nineteen and twenty he
didn't play in the NFL. He was in the XFL
and UFL or whatever. And then this says Josh's first
year was nine, so he hadn't gotten to that, so he.
Speaker 5: Must not have made on a team maybe practice squad
after year ten, which is this year, it should add one.
That is a shocking number to me because that means
said again, fourteen, So that means there's seven years of
Josh Johns's.
Speaker 2: Career that we're not credited.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if he gets to that threshold of ten,
then they get at it.
Speaker 2: Like you said, yeah, I don't know if that rule
still applies. This was I mean, it's got it. I
mean this is new CBA. I don't know. That was
probably twenty thirteen fourteen when Coon hit his so year.
Speaker 6: There's a lot of years that are accredited because he's
credited nine to twenty thirteen, then not again until eighteen,
so there's a five year gap. Yeah, from thirteen to eighteen. No,
this is proofootball reference.
Speaker 1: This is.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I look, I'm gonna trust Tati on anything when
it comes to NFL.
Speaker 6: That's surprising to me though, So I'm guessing for what
those five years must trust.
Speaker 3: Him outside of everything except the team you roots for.
That's on him. Life's about choices and decisions, and.
Speaker 4: He chose that.
Speaker 7: Again, that's Stockholm sentrum at this point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. All right, we are long for a break.
Let's go ahead and take it now. And when we
come back, well, dear the laund yeah we can. There's
any questions, Let's.
Speaker 3: Get that at nine nine o'clock because hand up, we
messed up. De Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2: That's a good hour three though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go nine am.
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Speaker 1: Baby blocked in on LSU Football twenty four to seven.
You're listening to off the bench.
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Speaker 4: All right, welcome, make you a OTB one of four
five ESPN Ben Rude coming up on Sunday, NFL Network.
It's going to be the New Orleans Saints traveling out West.
Are already there so five Stadium to take on the
Los Angeles Chargers. I know not all preseason games are
created the same. This one feels like a big one
for the New Orleans Saints because, well, you only have
a handful of preseason games now it's Nike. It used
to be you're playing against a good football team that's
going to play I would assume they're starters for a
majority of the time early in the game, and you
got a quarterback back, and it's a great opportunity for
I'm assuming Spencer Ratler is going to get the start,
for Spencer Ratler to go out there and try to
separate himself some more from Tyler Schuck and from Jake Hayner.
Speaker 3: Now, all three quarterbacks will play, we certainly.
Speaker 4: Know that, but when you look at the New Orleans Saints,
I think this is going to be a big tell
for who ends up being your starting quarterback. Now in
the preseason, you still got home games against the Jags
and the Broncos, and you'll still assess the team, assess
the situation that game against the Jags, maybe you play
them even longer. But I think, and this isn't me
just because we've got the helmet here, I think the
Chargers is a much better roster.
Speaker 3: So if the Chargers end up playing.
Speaker 4: Their guys, and by the time you get to the
Broncos game, I know the whole Sean Payton.
Speaker 3: Deal, but they're not going to play their guys. It's
the last preseason game.
Speaker 4: So again, if the Chargers handle this like I think,
they're going to playing some of their guys.
Speaker 3: I think this is going to be.
Speaker 4: The best case study we have who potentially could be
the Saint starting quarterback.
Speaker 2: And it's a chance.
Speaker 5: It's an opportunity for Spencer Rattler to really put a
stamp on his first two weeks of training camp. If
all reports that we are getting, at least, of course
it's not coming from the coach's mouth, that's not coming
from there, but the reports that everybody's getting in.
Speaker 2: The kind of the common theme, the common.
Speaker 5: Denominator is that it's Spencer Rattler has separated himself. And
you know, it goes from like a Nick Underhill who
comes on our show every week, who before training camp
said yeah, I think Tyler Chuck's gonna be the starting
quarterback week one too, now saying there is a clear difference.
There's a clear separation. Whether that is a celebration of
Spencer or an indictment on Chuck, it doesn't really matter.
There is clear separation. So it is Rattler's chance to
kind of put a stamp on that and solidify what
he's done the first two weeks. Now, do I expect
them to name a Week one starter, even if Rattler
goes out there and plays really.
Speaker 2: Well and the other two do not.
Speaker 5: I don't fully expect there to be a Kellen More
press conference saying Spencer Ratler is I don't expect that
happen to happen until after the second preseason game, although
what they do in practice might go ahead and indicate
and tell you all you need to know. So if
he does play well and Chuck does not play well,
there's clearly a gap in performance during the game as well,
and there continues to be in practice leading up to
the game, then I think those repetitions stop going from
you know, whether it's it's not really thirty three thirty
three thirty three right now. But I would say Spencer's
probably get him about forty to forty five percent of
the reps. Would I would bet that that would start
going to Spencer getting sixty to eighty percent of the
reps with the ones. But no, I don't think they're
going to name a Week one starter after this first game,
even if there's a clear difference. But it certainly is
a chance for him, an opportunity to him to put
to make a big statement here and capitalize on I
guess the distance that he's kind of put on himself.
Speaker 3: All right, let's go around the room real quick.
Speaker 4: If it's not the quarterback position that you're watching here
coming up and look, everybody's gonna I hustle that.
Speaker 3: We all know that. But there's other position battles.
Speaker 4: There's other concerns on this roster as far as position
groups and so tite will start with you outside of quarterback,
which position are you watching?
Speaker 6: It's gotta be running back behind Alvin Kamara, Like y'all
talked about it yesterday about this kind of being ken
and Dre's last opportunity to really prove something is to
get passed up by Devin Neil. What does the undrafted
guys look like? I mean, Clyde cam Akers, you got
a mixture of like rookies veterans all behind Camara.
Speaker 3: That's where I'm watching Elandra.
Speaker 7: Yeah, if I'm gonna go different from running back because
I'm kind of the same. Honestly, I've said this.
Speaker 12: Before, but I feel like we were so focused on
the quarterback battle that like we have like people don't
really talk about we have, but I haven't seen like
the masses talk about the fact that there's question marks
at literally every single position.
Speaker 7: I feel like, but I think I'm gonna be watching
the corners.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's running back, That's where I would have been.
That's a going like kool aid.
Speaker 4: Kool Aid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you.
Speaker 4: Need kool Aid to be really, really good. So you trade,
uh anytime you trade like that in the NFL draft,
and we're talking about in the second round, that's massive.
Speaker 3: That's somebody you're counting on to be a like Day
one starter.
Speaker 4: So Koli mcinsry is somebody that the Saints they absolutely
have to have him be the guy they thought he
was when they drafted him.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like so many people are like, oh, who's gonna
start opposite of kool Aid McKinstry, But like nobody's taken
into consideration. But if he's not the guy you think
he is either, I mean he played a little bit
as a rookie, not a ton Like if if kool
Aid can't step up, then you're really in trouble. Like
Quincy Riley been good, really good.
Speaker 4: He's a draft pick from this year. He's been good
in camp. But you need kool Aid to be a
starting NFL corner and play really well. You have assets
into him, not just the pick that he was but
a you know, a trade within the draft.
Speaker 5: He has to be good and we've seen really good clips,
but everybody has good clips in practice, right, so you've
got to see it on the game film. That's what
preseason games are for. You want to see it. You
want to show out. But yeah, you need to be
able to give the rest of your defense and a
new defensive cad coordinator a lot of freedom. It is
such a luxury to have one guy that you can
always rely on that you don't need to help. You
don't need to shade a safety to roll a safety
over you don't. You can let him kind of do
his thing and let's disguise the rest of the field.
So yeah, it's a it's a huge luxury. So I
would expect that he would make some he would make
some strides, but going into second year, he could make
a lot of strides. And if he if he, if
he really shows out this year and becomes a true
one number one corner, which some of these like when
I watch these clips that come out of training camp, yeah,
you see good plays and there's everything you see is
a highlight for somebody.
Speaker 2: But I try to like you know dissect.
Speaker 5: Why it was a highlight, Like what his hous, his footwork,
his break on the ball, his reacting to late hands
by the wide receiver, like what why did he make this?
And consistently he's doing a really good job with route
recognition from those clips that I've seen.
Speaker 2: So we'll see, we'll see what happens when.
Speaker 7: You got Quincy Riley?
Speaker 4: Is that who you are? Just yeah, he's had really
good you drafting this year at Louisville, He's had a
really good camp.
Speaker 12: So he's somebody that's also like I'm excited about Rashid Shaheed.
Speaker 4: Well he's been like I went to but also like
reports on Louisiana Sports done after Ross, he's been.
Speaker 5: Nick said it this week, he said he's been the highlight.
He's been the star of training camp.
Speaker 12: Probably the receivers is like, what's the big highlight of
the first team right now?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Second team?
Speaker 6: Yeah, so that's the thing kind of put it in
the docola. But I was like, receivers outside of the
top three guys.
Speaker 12: Yeah, but isn't that kind of like the whole roster though,
Like we're like, okay, cool, Like the first the.
Speaker 3: First twenty two great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think they're like there's somewhere the
probably the back into the middle, right, you know, seventeen
eighteen nineteen. Yeah, as far as like roster, you you
get past that first twenty two, it's thirty second.
Speaker 2: Only one team plays, though, let's go.
Speaker 4: They need one team to stay healthy. I know, we
gotta take a break. I would have gone with Trevor Pinning.
Trevor Pinning making the move from tackle to guard. All
reports have been really good. Even Nick Underhill this week
said that he's been shocked himself. He'd never thought that
Trevor Pinning would look as good as he has. I
think there's something about having bodyguards on each side. When
you're that aggressive player, you can be who you truly
are meant to be. So Trevor Pinning at guard, That's
what I'm gonna be paying attention to outside and.
Speaker 5: Then we gotta go a break, Like, let's just call
it what it is. The most exciting thing about this
game is going to be the quarterbacks. But to see
how Kellen Moore's new offense. We got a new head coach,
we got a new offense. To see what that style
is and get a true glimpse inside, look at what
we really want to do it.
Speaker 4: On and we'll find out this Sunday more OTV when
we come back one four five, ESPN, Baton Rouge Off
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