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Speaker 1: All the damn work. I'll put it in with you,

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you Fisto.

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Speaker 2: What can you do with this person?

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Speaker 1: Who's you?

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Speaker 2: So they look good, you look good and everybody's safe

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as well.

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Speaker 1: Put him on a black leather jacket, a black eye

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Jeff Lippman. It looked like she was too slow for school,

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but she came out playing the hot.

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Speaker 2: Mean girls, look really good boys Friday to Boys. It's

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all of season three, episode nine. This one is titled

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tag Team Turnoil and once again this tag team will

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piss me off, but it is what it is. My

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dear Jeff Lawyer, Extraor and Air. How are you, by

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the way, I'm lu Fisto, and like I just said,

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he's my co host, mister Jeff Liffman.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, it's good to see you again.

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I did the rant that you're going to do two

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weeks ago, so hopefully, uh don't take my absence of

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rant not guaranteed that there will be as absence of outrage.

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This the subtitles of the show was the Apollo Elijah Connection.

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I am furious about this, but like I said, two

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weeks ago or two episodes ago, I did the rant

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on this. I continued it a little bit last week.

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The fisto I think is going to rant about it.

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Today I did frant, but I am this is so

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fucking annoying, and I I am well, I don't think

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TNA's next lay that cats me out. I am so

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hoping the WWE wave the remainder of the ninety day

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non compete so he can join TNA, so he can

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be that multi single champion the TNA was teasing in

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exchange for him being aired on LFG at least twice.

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The season still is a third to go, so who knows,

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Speaker 2: Do the way we are talking about a Paul Cruise.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we were talking about Apollo Jeus. Thank you for that.

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Speaker 2: Wow, we are starting being so positive. I hope a

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few people are doing great anyways.

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Speaker 1: I hope you are doing I hope all of you

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are doing great too. I have had a troubling two

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weeks in a lot of ways, but we're here. I've

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kept the show content going. I've you know, putting stuff

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up and hopefully I don't sound like controul. I am

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troubled about this legitimately, and you know, I know that

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people think I'm sort of a corporate stooge, and to

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extent I am, but not that much of a stooge

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to not be outraged about, you know, prices and this

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stuff and some of the over sanitization of rest slain,

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Speaker 2: So you had a bad week. I had a bad

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like the bad like last two weeks. I had a

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bad last two weeks. Everything broke in my house, my dishwasher,

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my the washer, my smart watch, and something else. Anyway,

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So somebody else's having a bad day is Carly Bright.

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in nice segue. Right, I'm learning, I'm getting there.

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Speaker 1: Nice nice segue.

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Speaker 2: So she she has hip and lower back problems. She

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says it's probably the wear and tear or left legs

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shut down. And when she said that, I'm like, oh

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my god, we're in tear already. That young in a career,

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and I mean her being an athlete and doing you know,

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she's been doing sports since I don't know, since probably

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very very young years of some issue.

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Speaker 1: She was a Division one cheerleader at University of Minnesota.

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not falling on your back unless your teammates drop you.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's not hope. But I mean it's still a

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lot of stress on her body. She's not really she's fit,

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but she's not big, so she doesn't necessarily has a

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lot of protection when it comes to wrestling because the

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bumps they hurt. I mean, it is what it is.

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and you know, she's trying to work through her fear

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and she and this is this I really like this quote.

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it describes wrestling perfectly. It's also I've always said to

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students and new wrestlers, like wrestling is, you know, learning

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from now on and you have to deal with it.

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go to the hospital because you get hurt, and they

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much does it hurt? You'll probably say five because you're

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keep on pushing, and that's basically the last we year

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from her in this episode, and we go right away

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to the morning meeting with this time, of course, always

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of course Carly Bright said all of the right things

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in this segment. However, I'm pretty sure that the fact

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that her body was already so shot is part of

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the reason why she was released. It's not just that

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they already are you know, flush with blondes who are

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athletic in from D one sports backgrounds and from wrestling

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backgrounds with Blake Monroe, et cetera. But it might have

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been for her own safety or really that why are

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we investing in someone who you know, in within two

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or three years has already gone to this point with

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which seems like on the path towards permanent nerve damage.

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that you know, you know, WW is very good about

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taking about taking care of medical bills and things like

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that for people who get injured in the ring, and

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if someone's gonna have permanency, there's always that argument as

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to when do we cut this person off? You know,

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knows about that.

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Speaker 2: There's a difference between someone who, let's say, breaks a

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bone or they're they're a muscle, then you fix it

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and they start, you know again, and someone who has

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constant pain and damage and it's always going to come back.

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then we move on. You have to deal with it

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for the rest of your life. And I'm I think

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you're actolutely right. Yeah, you that's probably the reason why

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you're in the ring and your leg

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gos numb, you are a danger to your opponent, you know,

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for yourself, for people you're working with. So it's not

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just yourself, it's also the other person. So it's not

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just selfishness. I mean people might look at it that way.

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and say, oh, they're so mean that it's a liability issue,

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but it's also it's also liability on not in the

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legal sense, but it's a liability to the people that

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you're working with. And you know, if your legost and

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rope and all of a sudden you can't catch them.

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something that's your wrestling, that that's happening. The good thing

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in wrestling is you can do something else. You could

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be someone who works backstage. You can even be a

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manager because you're not going to bump as much, you're

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not gonna move as much, but you can still be

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we'll see what happens with her. I don't think she's

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been doing anything wrestling since she was released. Correct me

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if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't seen anything from I've seen stuff from

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Serena Linton. I've seen stuff from me. Even bj Ray

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still thinks he's in the business. Uh, you know Andre Chase,

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Duke Hanson, which was duke cousin Gentala has has certainly

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been uh do anyway, I can't remember all the people,

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but yeah, there there's there's a good half dozen or

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so that that you know from the LFG world who

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are not no longer there that had been tried. I

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just saw Malik Blade is trying under what I presume

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is his real name or his new wrestling name. Looks

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like he got himself jacked up, which he probably should

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have done. Before. He's a good guy that I could

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I can tell. Uh anyway, You're right, why why are

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we burying the am meeting in the morning meeting. We

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love the morning Meeting. We love Matt Bloom with Bubba

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and Booker and and Terry Taylors with them this time.

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Speaker 2: The Booker gets the match of Braxton Cole being the

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heel and Arlene Lewis as a babyface, which is really

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inter wrestling. They say they want to still work on

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the smarter you know, PhD guy, book reading guy goes

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to the ring and you know, Bubba tells Booker that

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he needs you know, he told him he needs to

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show it more so people get the gimmick and stuff.

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I like that Bubba was like sharing his own insight

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with Booker. One brain is always better than just one

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in wrestling. Then there's not much to say from this match,

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the first time I've always I've only seen him as

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a heel in LFG or maybe kind of in between.

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was sort of yeah, but it wasn't that clear. Yeah,

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I have seen him as a face and evolved, but

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that's you know, I mean, it's the same universe, but

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it's not really the remit of the show.

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Speaker 2: So we got Terry Taylor and he's gonna get Serena

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Litton versus Zena Sterling. So I was really interested in

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seeing what Terry was going to do with Zena because

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we saw us last week or the week before. I

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so that Booker. He did a good job with Zena.

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work with her would be interesting. And Matt mentions that Matt,

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like I know him. Coach Blum mentioned that she's kind

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of head of a plateau, especially in her selling, which

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we've been mentioning most of the time. He says that

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like the light bulb flickers, but it's not on yet,

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which I thought was a good way to explain it,

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and it's like you and she doesn't understand anger and

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put the finger like right on it. It's like, yeah,

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it's like she can't portray anger, right, it looks it

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looked like she acting, but bad acting. So and Serena

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this for when we're about to cover that match.

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gets the tag team match of Jamie Garcia and Malik Blade.

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he's actually doing is real because he still has those

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at the right spot. So they want him to kind

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of switch things around where what he does what he

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does good, he keeps it, but he places it at

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the right spot in the match so it doesn't look

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phony and it fits with whatever the store they're trying

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to say. And Malik once again, Booker t uses he's

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in the bubble. He's in the bubble. I think he's

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just there so we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 1: And do you know that. I mean, first of all,

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Cody Rhodes where a guy super kicks a machine to

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get the whatever energy drink they're selling. He goes by

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and he's young. I don't know how old Lee is,

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by I would guess he's under twenty five. He's being

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so obviously they have a lot of interests in him

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where they're pairing and basically with the coach good kid.

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to these folks to come on the show who were

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Malik or I think it's Russ now Serena. Any of

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on the show and join us, we would, We would

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to bury anybody. We can do our we can do

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the burying. We don't want to hurt your you know,

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repping the business or your chances in the business if

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you intend to be in the business. But if you don't,

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like Chris Island, you've retired and you want to bury people,

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sure go ahead. If you don't, that's fine too. We

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just want to get your insights into the show and

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how things work and how much is you know, portrayed

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on the camera and what's not shown on the camera. Anyway,

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that digression is over back.

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Speaker 2: Just to finish on this match. You know, it's the

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first time that Cruz and Oliefielder working as a tag,

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so is Jamie and Malik actually, and does you know

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the goal to this match is very simple, tell a

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good story. And they expect Apollo to be a great

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a great leader.

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Speaker 1: And they talked very highly of Apollo. Kevin. I think

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Kevin Owens is like was he somebody said sob He said, yeah,

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you know, he's going to lead this match. Great, He's

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gonna be a great ring genimal. Everyone says good things

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about him. So I agree about this. Just listen to

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my rants from two weeks ago. I don't even want

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to upset myself still will be two hours long if

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you if I keep.

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Speaker 2: Let's go before Jeff goes on those second round.

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Speaker 1: I've never met Apolo Cruise. I've never talked to Apollo Cruise.

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I'm not even like a giant fan. I just this

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is an injustice, and there's been other injustices. It makes fuck.

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Speaker 2: Hunter Brax and Cole versus Arlen Lewis. So Lewis says

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like he feels that it, you know, being still at LFG,

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he kind of feels that he's fighting below his weight

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and he's being told that, you know not Actually, I'm sorry,

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I will I'm already on. Cole Booker tells Coles, like,

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you know, being a heel, you can do the first

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clean break, but then just just the show, like you

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understand again the smart thing that comes back, and then

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show that you are a heel later.

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Speaker 1: Don't just do a lock up. In other words, have

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some drama with the locker being refused. Go, you know,

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push it into the corner, reverse it, whatever it is.

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Don't just do a simple lock up. And you're right.

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Harlan Lewis basically said that he's overachieving here, almost like

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this is beneath him. Though i don't think that's what

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he meant, but those are the words he said. And

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son do with all due respect, No you're not, No,

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you're not. As far as Braxton Cole there, they tell

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him just what they said in the am meeting. Work

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on the PhD gimmick, slow things down. Really incorporate that

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into the match. People. It's not just an entrance. Use

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the book more, use it as a prop. Make it

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part of the story.

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Speaker 2: Work the body language. Work the body language. That's what

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he Booker tells him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And the other thing that Harlem said that

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was interesting is that he's like, you know, me and

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Booker got off on the wrong foot, but we've worked

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it out. Oh and now I love Booker. I'm super

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excited to work with Booker. So Harlem giveth and Harlem

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taketh away. I mean, that was great. And Booker indicates

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these high on Harlem Lewis, he thinks he's got star qualities.

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And he's also really high on Braxton Cole, who obviously

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is much younger or in his wrestling journey than Braxen

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Cola's I'm gonna turn it over to you in a second,

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but I want to say I think maybe they were

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listening to us, or maybe this is so obvious that

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they came up with him. But when Braxton Cole came out,

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he had an actual hardcover book that looked like it

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was a scholarly academic, not not headbanger Chaz's autobiography or biography.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they like. I right away says, Okay,

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better book.

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Speaker 1: He was read point read the title, but I was

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hoping it was like Dante's Inferno or like you know,

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the Aristotle on Zoology or something whatever. He should have

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a giant tome, the Malice Maleficarum whatever. Well probably not that,

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but he should have some giant maybe even volumes of

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the Encyclopedia Britanica. But whatever he should have, it should

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be huge with the letters overstated on the on the binder.

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And they should probably make him like twelve different books.

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You know, that's just whatever looks like.

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Speaker 2: Different covers for every show.

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Speaker 1: No different book every time, like like war are in Peace,

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you know, anything that like everybody knows the name of it,

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or to recognize that it's like you know, Hessi, it's

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you know theogony, you know, they don't have to know

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what it is, just to know that it's snooty, fancy

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schmancy exactly.

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Speaker 2: Actually people call him nerd, which I thought was funny.

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He works the gimmick like he's reading the book, doesn't

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care much about them, you know, it's it's kind of

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a little bit. I feel there's still something missing right more,

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I would say more character into it, Like he just

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looks at them without being in trusted, but he should

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look at them with disgusts, like to have something happening

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on his face. Because it's just nothing or barely so

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they always say make it bigger. He should be like

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or even like put it his stalling out or like

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I want a puke, Oh, you guys are stupid, or.

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Speaker 1: Make like a like their breath stinks or something, or

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just their bodies.

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Speaker 2: Something, Yes, something that adds to it, because right now

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is just it's a smart guy that reads book. People

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call him nerd, and that's pretty much it.

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Speaker 1: So, but I do really want you who I want

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to see him work with, who probably won't because he's

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probably moved on. Tristan Angels, Nathan Cranston on this show.

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Speaker 2: They could work together as a team.

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Speaker 1: And he could learn a lot from how Nathan Cranston

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works the crowd exactly.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, one thing I thought was funny

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when people started to call him nerd bub was like,

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oh my god, if you would have the balls to

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take the mic, you know, and tell them to go

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home whatever. I'm like, dude, you know that if he

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does this, he's going to get reprimanded because they did

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not tell him to do it. Like maybe in the

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indies it would be right, but I'm like, I don't

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think it would fly. Like maybe maybe there they would

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be like, especially if he cuts a great promo, but

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I'm like, everything is so like planned.

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Speaker 1: There's like the last person who ran off script and

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everybody they loved it was Hayes Jamison and they cut her.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it is what I just thought.

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Speaker 1: She's another one who seems to be still grinding, though

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I've seen it slow down recently, so I don't know.

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I just want to call it. One thing that that

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Jerry Bosh compared Harlem Lewis's faithful hair to Ox Bakers,

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and what a reference. If you don't know who Ox

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Baker is, He's usual, yeah, and watch Escape from New

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York because he he aside from professor to Tanaka and

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Andre the Giant. He might be the first wrestler and

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he was sort of a deep cut wrestler who made

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it into a major emotion picture. I'm sure out there

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there's there's you know, someone will show me where I'm

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wrong or others. But yeah, Ox Baker, the Master of

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the heart punch.

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Speaker 2: Uh Arlem. I thought this entrance was bland. I thought

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he needed more fire, and I was like, I understand

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he's not a happy babyface, but he needs to show

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at least some intensity, some fire, some I don't know, grit,

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like I'm here the fucking fight and I love it,

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like I'm happy to beating easy.

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Speaker 1: The story here is the conceited guy who was everything

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in Harlem, is the guy who had to fight for everything.

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And he could be saying, you think you're better than me,

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I'm about to show you that you're not. I mean,

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just say something, get the crowd and then and then

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point to the crowd and go, he's not better than me.

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You would say you were yelling nerd before nerd, nerd,

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nerd or kick the nerds ass whatever, do something. Still

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just walk there, I mean anybody can just walk there. Yes,

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he looks more intense than like the average person just

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work walking there, but you need more than that because

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there got Piano Carver there. They already have bron Breaker there.

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You know, they've got people who know how to walk

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and look intense and frankly look more intense than you do.

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I mean, as big and strong as you think you are,

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and you are, you're not as big and strong of

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those guys.

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Speaker 2: So they started the match with a lock up that

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was kind of weak for these two guys. You know,

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back you know, to the corner, break, good clap on

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the chest. There was some nice headlock, takedowns, exchanges, but

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they were making no sound. It was like almost it

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looked like a practice. Then you know, Arlin got into

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a shigne, two big tackles, a big, big slam. But

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after the lamb he should have like kind of fired

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up look at the crowds, scream or or a nerd

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I'll beat your ass or something. There was nothing. Then

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the cut off is like a guillotine from the top rope.

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There was barely any selling. Then everything I felt was

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too fast Arlem selling. There was no facials, like no

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exaggeration of it. Uh like almost almost like he didn't

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want to feel weak. But I mean if you doesn't,

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if you don't give me anything, I'm not gonna have

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any sympathy for you. Therefore, I'm not gonna feel like

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clapping for you. Uh. Sound was barely there. Uh there

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was a whole spot from here where he gave a

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back elbow then a punch cut by an out guide

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our gow sorry I rape or whatever. It was too

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fast the cell, Like again, it was a small cell.

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It was not like, oh my god, my eyes and

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kind of turn around and trying to get your vision

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back there's It was kind of yeah, and I felt

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cold though, had like solid suck to the back. The

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hanging neck breaker he did in the corner looked good,

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and I really liked that he pulled He was very

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close to the ropes after that movie, but he pulled

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Arlem for the pin away from the ropes. I'm like, yes, please,

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you know you don't want to be close to the

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ropes because you know, foot on the rope or whatever.

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He's pulling him to get the pinfall. I was like,

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that's great, But there was like no cockiness in between

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the moves he was doing, Like I felt his mechanics

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were better than what I saw in the first match,

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like he's I see evolution, but you know they were

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I really liked that he was. He kept working on

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Arlem's neck like and then he went into like a

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hold on the ground and then finally Arlem started to

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you know, I could hear like sounds of pains and whatever,

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and they went back up into a headlock and Arleam

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gave him like little elbows to to the stomach. But

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usually you pull your elbow all the way out and

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in so it looks big and your opponent can actually

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kind of jump on.

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Speaker 1: You know, shows the words that you should never say.

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With Harlem Lewis little elbows.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I was like it was so close

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we could barely see them, and depending on where you're sitting,

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you you didn't know what was happening. And I was like,

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what the freaking And I was like, make this bigger

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and from the comeback.

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Speaker 1: I have a you a question as the as the

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expert here, because I know the heel is supposed to

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lead the match, but Harlem is the in quotes veteran

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of the two, So who was leading the tempo of

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this match or who was supposed to.

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Speaker 2: Be I mean the heel is supposed to slow down

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the tempo, meaning he does a move, punts, the crown, talkscrap,

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kills time, then goes back to the babyface. The babyface's

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job is to either sell to the next spot, so

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there's no whip running, placing, you know, too much shit

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in between that doesn't make sense. Either places himself to

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the next spot that's coming, and he's selling, selling, selling, selling,

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And if it takes too long, you have to fight

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back with punches or pushing or just so you don't

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look dead. And it's the heel a job to stop

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you because he's still in his heat. But you can

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fight back. You could push, you can do a punch like,

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but right away the heel like sells a little bit,

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then Boom gets back on you. So I feel Cole

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was working too fast. But Arlen, as a as a veteran, veteran,

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i mean, more experienced than Cole, should say go work

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the crowd, take your time, hit me again. These are

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things you could say and to give like kind of

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guidance to the the rookie heel to you know, hey,

471
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,440
slow down, give me time to sell, give me like like.

472
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,319
Speaker 1: You know, they're both equally responsible.

473
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 3: Then yeah, it's it's I mean, it's Cole's job to

474
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:46,559
work slow, but if he works too fast, the veteran

475
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:51,400
has to step in and tells, like slow down, you know, that's.

476
00:27:51,279 --> 00:27:53,759
Speaker 1: What I mean. You know, I don't know who the

477
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,480
really you know, but you just covered a beautiful Yeah.

478
00:27:56,519 --> 00:27:59,519
Speaker 2: The the heel sets the pace, but it's the veteran's

479
00:27:59,599 --> 00:28:02,519
job to tell the heel if he's not, so he

480
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,279
slows down and then gets back on track.

481
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,759
Speaker 1: Both these guys would benefit from working with like whatever

482
00:28:08,759 --> 00:28:14,359
the male equivalent is of a Natty Well date Charlie Dempsey.

483
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,839
You know, there's you know, Dolph Ziggler's not what the

484
00:28:18,839 --> 00:28:20,960
company anymore. Doesn't mean they can't bring him into train.

485
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,880
I don't know what you know, there's not you know,

486
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,319
they used to have the entry, you know, if it

487
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,599
was the law. If you if you came on the

488
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,079
main roster, your first feud was either with the miss

489
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,759
Dlph Ziegler or Baron Corban. And people often wonder why

490
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,799
why did Baron Corbin have a job for so long?

491
00:28:39,039 --> 00:28:41,279
Because he was that safe guy that you could work

492
00:28:41,319 --> 00:28:44,119
with anyone and was sort of like a gatekeeper. And

493
00:28:44,119 --> 00:28:45,920
sometimes that was the order of your feuds. You know

494
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,640
those advice dudes. Women, As it used to be the

495
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,480
law that your first view was with Natty because she

496
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,799
was safe, you know, and and and you know and

497
00:28:53,799 --> 00:28:57,039
and would help get you better. And if she couldn't,

498
00:28:57,079 --> 00:28:59,039
maybe it was time to put you in a tag

499
00:28:59,039 --> 00:29:03,640
team or cut bait. But uh, I don't know. I

500
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,880
don't know who that person is, but I think that

501
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:12,359
that would be interesting. Then again, if you're a veteran

502
00:29:12,359 --> 00:29:14,759
and you saw what happened to Apollo Cruise, unless you

503
00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:18,119
get like a no cut clause in your contract that

504
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,680
they don't exist for another two years, I wouldn't.

505
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: They don't exist in wrestling. Those clause they do in

506
00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:27,400
hockey or no they.

507
00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:29,599
Speaker 1: Heard they don't exist in wrestling. But they can, I mean,

508
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,640
TKO change the WWE contracts. They can change it for

509
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,960
this work. They will. But listen, this is fifty thousand

510
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,480
people watched LFG last week. Now listen. I know that

511
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,839
there was the World Cup and other things as well,

512
00:29:42,319 --> 00:29:44,680
but the week before was like one hundred and sixty

513
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,319
three thousand, And I keep saying that there has to

514
00:29:48,359 --> 00:29:52,640
be some lack of interest. Is because many of the

515
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,079
people on the show are no longer with the company,

516
00:29:55,119 --> 00:29:57,720
and I think some of the disgusted I'm expert, you know,

517
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,000
is diffused amongst that audience as well, and it said,

518
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,319
why am I investing another hour of wrestling per week

519
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,160
into this show when I'm not really getting to know

520
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,240
the people that not they sort of stepped away from

521
00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:15,319
the the you know, vignettes, the personal vignettes, and you know,

522
00:30:15,519 --> 00:30:18,200
half to two thirds of these people no longer with

523
00:30:18,319 --> 00:30:20,319
the company anymore. What do I care? I mean, we

524
00:30:20,359 --> 00:30:24,599
start with Carli Bright not with the company. We Apollo Cruise,

525
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,119
and Malip Blade no longer with the company. You've got

526
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,640
there's another Serena Linton on this show, no longer with

527
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:40,519
the company. I mean, it's why why invest? You know,

528
00:30:40,599 --> 00:30:44,279
It's like it's almost it's almost said, it's like, you know,

529
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:51,960
the end of the story. So again, wwe very short sighted. Again,

530
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,880
just pay these people for another three months before you

531
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,880
release them, if you're intent on releasing them, you know,

532
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,200
and then have the noncomput after that for you know,

533
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,000
or you know, or four months whatever it is until

534
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,200
the show runs. I'm sorry. I back to the match.

535
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: And the comeback. Arlm goes sorry, Cole goes for a

536
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,920
big boot, Arlem ducks it clothesline punch Mitchinoko Driver one two.

537
00:31:18,359 --> 00:31:22,359
He shows frustrations but no fire. I mean that's where

538
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,039
the babyface needs to work the crowd and gets a fire.

539
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,799
Then Cole counters gets into a neck breaker. I love

540
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,079
that he's staying on the next so that's a good

541
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,319
falsey because he worked the neck the whole match. So

542
00:31:35,359 --> 00:31:38,960
he goes back to it one two, okay, no grabs

543
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,400
the book, then argues with ref Stephanie. I like that

544
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,400
they mentioned her name. He goes for a low blow attempt,

545
00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:49,920
but that doesn't work. Arlem catches him, go into Jack

546
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,640
Knafbain one two three, and that's the match. So again,

547
00:31:54,799 --> 00:31:59,000
I felt there was good mechanics but not enough emotions.

548
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,759
I felt Cold was better as a wrestler, but oh

549
00:32:03,799 --> 00:32:07,400
my god, Arlem is so he's like stagnant to me.

550
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I say I and this is also related to evolve,

551
00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:19,319
But I become less interested in Harlem week by week,

552
00:32:19,359 --> 00:32:21,720
and that's not the way it's supposed to go, all right,

553
00:32:21,799 --> 00:32:23,960
so let me start it here. So that's on the record.

554
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,039
I thought this match was somewhere between okay and pretty good.

555
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,880
So I'm not burying the match. However, the lock up

556
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,680
they did exactly the opposite of what Booker told them

557
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,319
to do. So that's a very bad start for two

558
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,680
guys not not registering what the coach said at the

559
00:32:43,759 --> 00:32:46,559
very beginning. I understand it. Sometimes at some point you

560
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,920
forget about, you know, instructions or maybe some of the

561
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,079
agent ing and the booking. But right from get go

562
00:32:53,599 --> 00:32:57,519
you covered the entrances perfectly. I do not like you

563
00:32:57,559 --> 00:33:02,240
know Cole young kid, but one of the things they

564
00:33:02,279 --> 00:33:04,079
wanted to see from him, and they let him know

565
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,559
the last time we saw him in LFG, and I

566
00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:09,279
don't know how much real time allow ops between these

567
00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:12,640
the airings of these shows, but they said, use the

568
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,960
book more incorporated into the story. He did not. It

569
00:33:16,039 --> 00:33:19,240
was just there that on the ring. Apron didn't threaten

570
00:33:19,319 --> 00:33:21,519
to go with it, didn't try to distract a ref

571
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,400
when the Rake of the Eyes grab the book and

572
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:28,359
have the ref take it away. Nothing. Harlem Lewis got

573
00:33:28,359 --> 00:33:31,119
a sort of a sneaky win, which I do not love.

574
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,960
For a baby face badass like Braxton, Cole is the

575
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,200
one who get the sneaky win. Harlem Lewis, like Braxton,

576
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,480
Coles should have tried to cheat. It should have been failed.

577
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,279
And then Harlem Lewis hits him with a spear or

578
00:33:41,319 --> 00:33:44,920
something like that, or and then into his mitchinoko driver

579
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,440
as you said, and then whatever his like I don't

580
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,839
even think he used his finisher. He it was like

581
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:56,160
a roll up. I don't even remember what it was. Whatever. Okay, yeah,

582
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,880
it wasn't great. And Matt bloomg with me because his

583
00:34:01,079 --> 00:34:04,559
his comments. I mean, you know, he said, he basically said,

584
00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:07,519
what you liked. I like your execution. I like CARLM.

585
00:34:07,599 --> 00:34:10,320
Lewis as I like your physical work, he said to Bloom.

586
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,639
Bloom said to Cole, I want you to incorporate your

587
00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:15,760
character in your book more into it. You need to

588
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:21,760
act more. Couldn't agree with more. I'm not so sure

589
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,159
that I liked Lewis's Like I didn't dislike Lewis's work,

590
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:28,719
but for I didn't love his work, like I don't

591
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,679
think he's as great as they think he is, and

592
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,039
I don't think he's as great as he thinks he is.

593
00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:38,199
Like he's fine, but I don't know. He's not Keano Carter,

594
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,119
he's not Oba Femi. He's you know, there's something, there's

595
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:43,440
something not there.

596
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:53,199
Speaker 2: I felt that Coach Bloom was a lot more strict, uh.

597
00:34:53,360 --> 00:35:00,199
His criticisms were more like heavy thwords cold than than Arlem,

598
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,519
because he was like, you know, he's behind character wise,

599
00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:07,400
he needs to find an identity. This is a TV show.

600
00:35:07,519 --> 00:35:11,159
He needs to step up. His position was is not right,

601
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:16,639
and I'm like, this is all true, but he didn't

602
00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:19,480
say much to Arlem, and even Arlam like goes, oh,

603
00:35:19,519 --> 00:35:23,039
I did a good job selling and fighting back and

604
00:35:23,039 --> 00:35:27,320
and I'm like, really, I like this, this is not

605
00:35:27,559 --> 00:35:32,039
what I saw. I'm like, maybe I have other expectations

606
00:35:32,039 --> 00:35:34,760
when it comes to my babyfaces. But I was like,

607
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,920
I didn't see fire, I didn't see any I didn't

608
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,559
have pity for him. I didn't feel pissed because the

609
00:35:42,639 --> 00:35:46,559
other guy was like super fucking cocky. I mean, that's

610
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,679
the heel problem there. I mean, if if you really

611
00:35:49,679 --> 00:35:53,360
hate the heel, you're gonna automatically cheer for the babyface.

612
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,719
And of course Cole did not give me enough. But

613
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,679
I was like, when you look at the experience of

614
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:04,400
Cole versus the one Arlem has, like he's been to Japan,

615
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:12,079
he's doing Evolve And then LFG and just from lfg's

616
00:36:12,199 --> 00:36:16,760
last season. I was like, why aren't you mad at him?

617
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,159
I was like, I get the other guy, like, maybe

618
00:36:20,199 --> 00:36:24,159
he's a little behind, but I mean talk about being behind.

619
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,440
I'm like, to me, I still see things to do

620
00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:30,199
with Cole, but arlem, I'm like, somebody will have to

621
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,079
kick him in the ass or do something because it's

622
00:36:33,199 --> 00:36:36,760
not fucking working. Maybe maybe being a babyface is not

623
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:41,360
a sting. Probably he's much better as a heel. But

624
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,159
don't tell him he's great at his selling and fighting back,

625
00:36:44,199 --> 00:36:47,800
because that just not fucking happened. I was like, why

626
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:49,119
why are you saying this?

627
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 4: I was like, awwe, like I've said already, have a

628
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,480
bunch of guys who are somewhere between five to ten

629
00:36:55,519 --> 00:36:58,320
and six feet who are I mean, they've got like

630
00:36:59,039 --> 00:37:00,119
six some owens that.

631
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,599
Speaker 2: Rock Lesner sells like a motherfucker when he needs to,

632
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,920
Rock fucking Lesler if you can't sell, by the way

633
00:37:08,039 --> 00:37:11,519
Brock did for fucking Oba Femi when he got thrown

634
00:37:11,559 --> 00:37:14,880
over the fucking top rope and his fucking face lit

635
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,719
up and he was read as fuck as like, oh

636
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,960
my god, what the fuck just happened? I was like, sorry,

637
00:37:21,159 --> 00:37:23,239
you don't want to sell because you feel you're bigger. Whatever.

638
00:37:23,599 --> 00:37:27,800
Just watch fucking brock Lesler. He fucking sells, he tries.

639
00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: To cover and you cut Ridge Holland you know another

640
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,039
guy who was that's instead of this guy who got

641
00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:36,480
was really good and evolved, you know, maybe partly because

642
00:37:36,519 --> 00:37:39,039
you thought you, this guy in the pipeline Harlem do better.

643
00:37:39,079 --> 00:37:41,559
This it's in you, it's there. I mean, I don't

644
00:37:41,559 --> 00:37:43,599
want to I don't assume you're listening to the show.

645
00:37:43,639 --> 00:37:45,519
But if you are, I mean, I'll assume you're bearing.

646
00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:49,800
But you know, you have to act bigger. You have

647
00:37:50,199 --> 00:37:52,760
you have to be able to react in the moments.

648
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:54,800
You have to learn how to act. You have to.

649
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,079
You have to learn how to act. That that that's

650
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,679
it's a TV show, So you have to learn how

651
00:38:00,679 --> 00:38:01,079
to act.

652
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 2: Speaking of the TV shows and acting, it's back to

653
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,559
our friends Xena Sterling versus Serena Linton and this time

654
00:38:09,639 --> 00:38:12,039
they are with Sairry Taylor yep In.

655
00:38:14,119 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: They one comment on Zena because she said something really

656
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,840
strange to me in the you know, before we get

657
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,719
into this pace, they did little interviews with Serena and Zena,

658
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,360
and Xena said that they don't really know each other.

659
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,840
They're both on their third season of LFG. How the

660
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,199
hell do you not know each other?

661
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,519
Speaker 2: Oh, in wrestling, there's so many people and you're so

662
00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:42,840
focused on your own thing, you might not know the person,

663
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,159
like I didn't know it. I don't know if she

664
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,199
was talking personally or wrestling watch because she's also said

665
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:54,360
they did not wrestle a lot together, so maybe that's

666
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,159
what she meant more about, like, Oh, we haven't been

667
00:38:57,159 --> 00:39:00,480
in the ring that much, like compared to other people

668
00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:03,159
she's been with, maybe more times than as, you know

669
00:39:03,199 --> 00:39:04,480
what Serenas.

670
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're probably right, but you know, I

671
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,440
you know, I know this week has been a week

672
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,119
to beat up on Bubba a little bit because he

673
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:14,320
said he could beat up John Moxley or whatever. And

674
00:39:14,559 --> 00:39:17,480
you know, Bubba I very mixed feelings about. And that's

675
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,440
not important. But I do think that Zena maybe didn't

676
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,639
socialize so much because she was busy doing the podcast

677
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,599
and promotion to her with Bubba Ray and doing things

678
00:39:27,639 --> 00:39:29,480
instead of being in the PC and that might be

679
00:39:29,519 --> 00:39:31,039
some of the reasons that she hasn't gotten to know

680
00:39:31,079 --> 00:39:33,440
some of these people. And maybe because she thought she

681
00:39:33,559 --> 00:39:35,840
was fast tracked. She didn't need to. And I'm not

682
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,920
saying that she's a stuck up or anything like that,

683
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,960
but you know, young and you're you're again too much,

684
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,159
too soon. Maybe this is a symptom of that. Maybe

685
00:39:45,199 --> 00:39:46,800
I'm projecting that's.

686
00:39:46,599 --> 00:39:49,119
Speaker 2: Okay, it could be all these reasons altogether too.

687
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: So I can't wait till we get doctor Gina, because

688
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:53,079
that's one of those stories.

689
00:39:53,119 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 2: I want to questions I don't ask, so Terry mentions

690
00:39:56,519 --> 00:40:00,519
that Serenia's job as the heel must be she must

691
00:40:00,519 --> 00:40:03,480
be like it's clear as they she is the bad guy.

692
00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:09,719
So automatically, Zena is the good guy. He wants the

693
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,440
match to look unique, not the same choreograph routine that

694
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,679
they see in every other match, and he says, you know,

695
00:40:18,039 --> 00:40:21,480
be smart about it, focus on a body part. And

696
00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:24,280
I like that Norman Smiley was right there too bad

697
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,920
that they like, we've seen the effusic, we've seen Jazz,

698
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:32,960
we've seen Norman Smiley now and they they don't say anything.

699
00:40:33,039 --> 00:40:35,320
I wish they would. I mean, they're part of this

700
00:40:35,559 --> 00:40:41,639
freaking thing. Obviously, they're there, they're working so anyway, you know,

701
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,599
it's a feeling business again let's you know, not forget

702
00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:49,400
about it. There needs to be sympathy for the good guy.

703
00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:52,840
They need to believe and let's go to the match.

704
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: Hot dog, hot dog.

705
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 2: Anything you want to say about any the Terry Taylor's

706
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,719
advises are what he's looking for or.

707
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: A little bit in that. I didn't think that Terry Taylor. Listen,

708
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,800
I don't know what's editor or not, but he was.

709
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,960
He was. It was a little bit short, like I

710
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,639
think both of these women could have used a little

711
00:41:21,679 --> 00:41:24,199
bit more. But I thought what he said. But I

712
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,360
think that's part of his teaching methods is I'm gonna

713
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,320
say it once. I'm gonna be brief and concise and

714
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,599
simple in my instructions, and let's see if you can

715
00:41:32,639 --> 00:41:36,920
follow it. They had Serena position as the bad guy, said,

716
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,760
the story we're telling is you're going to work a

717
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,880
body party. She's bigger and stronger than you, and that's

718
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:46,760
what a heel does. Very Anderson Tag Team, which is great,

719
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,400
and we've had Serena as the bad guy before, but

720
00:41:50,519 --> 00:41:53,280
she didn't present as a bad guy. And I have

721
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,119
to be honest with this is what I was gonna

722
00:41:55,119 --> 00:41:56,760
say at the top of the show, and I said,

723
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:01,360
I'm gonna save it. I don't. I didn't understand why

724
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,360
Serena was cut until I saw her cry, and I thought,

725
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,519
maybe she's too emotional, maybe she doesn't have it. And

726
00:42:06,559 --> 00:42:09,920
between Zena and Serena, I was prepared to see who

727
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,760
cries first, you know, or if we see them both

728
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,440
have waterworks at some point, to see to test my theory.

729
00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:18,840
And that's a tease for the audience because you know,

730
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,800
we'll get into that a little bit later.

731
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,119
Speaker 2: So there was not much of an entrance for Zena.

732
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,559
It was no I mean, I just she was in

733
00:42:29,559 --> 00:42:31,840
the ring commercial, she was there posing.

734
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:37,199
Speaker 1: But Serena came in new gear, new music. Really liked

735
00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:40,719
the music and the beginning of it was the same,

736
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,920
but she definitely had different facials. There was like, you know,

737
00:42:43,159 --> 00:42:46,679
more spicy then fun, you know, more like the Lolo

738
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,079
ice dancing. There was more specy, and she definitely came

739
00:42:50,079 --> 00:42:54,519
in acting as a heel and I'm like, yes, Serena fine.

740
00:42:54,559 --> 00:42:56,079
She did the same moves, but she did them in

741
00:42:56,119 --> 00:42:58,480
a different way. Her body language, her facials, it was

742
00:42:58,519 --> 00:43:00,960
almost like fuck you, I'm hot, but you can't you know,

743
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:03,199
you can look, but you can't touch. And not only

744
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,480
can't you touch, but if you do, I'm snut, but

745
00:43:05,639 --> 00:43:08,599
you can't arm here.

746
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 2: I like Zena's gear. I I just didn't get. She

747
00:43:16,679 --> 00:43:19,400
was singing. She had a little bit of fire, and

748
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,519
I was like, okay, you're a heel. Maybe it's because

749
00:43:21,559 --> 00:43:25,280
Serena was so I mean, Zena was so stoic that

750
00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:30,960
Serena coming out second again and that bothers me. I

751
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,159
will I will die on that heel. And and she

752
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,079
was singing her song. She had a little bit of fire,

753
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,840
she was had banging. But I'm like, is she metaled?

754
00:43:41,039 --> 00:43:43,800
She's supposed to be kind of more spicy. But I

755
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:48,480
was like, uh, you know it's I would not sing

756
00:43:48,679 --> 00:43:50,880
or maybe the head bang or I would do I

757
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,880
don't know, something else that's a spicy because now I

758
00:43:54,920 --> 00:44:00,000
feel it's more metal and right now there's a metal legit.

759
00:44:00,039 --> 00:44:03,760
It's fucking metal girl in the NXC. But anyway, that

760
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,960
was from way before Luzy Rain came in. But I

761
00:44:08,039 --> 00:44:12,480
was like, okay, there was a solid lock up. Xena

762
00:44:12,519 --> 00:44:15,920
pushes Serena in the corner and she keeps it at

763
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,440
the ref counting and she stays there. I'm like, ciz

764
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:25,719
elish then there's a big slap from Serena. There was

765
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,960
not much reactions from Zena. Serena goes to the ropes

766
00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:33,039
and they're both separated from the ref and I'm like,

767
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:40,599
Zena should be insulted right now, and Serena jumped in

768
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,800
Zena's arms that she was thrown in the corner and

769
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:49,760
then there's like shit slaps to the chest and she

770
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:54,280
goes for a luck take down. Okay, let me explain something.

771
00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:01,639
Once you hit in a match, you do not go

772
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:06,599
back to chain wrestling. There is chain wrestling until someone

773
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:12,440
hits you. Once there is a punch or in this case,

774
00:45:12,559 --> 00:45:17,280
a slap, do not fucking go into a headlock. You

775
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:22,679
look like a fucking idiot. A heel slaps you work

776
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:27,199
into something where you, as a babyface, slaps back. You're

777
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,920
gonna get a fucking pop and then you go either

778
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,679
either you use it to start your shine or you

779
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,039
keep it for a little bit later in the match,

780
00:45:36,519 --> 00:45:39,360
and it's gonna play either in the finish or your

781
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:44,639
comeback as a babyface. You need a payoff. But Xena

782
00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:47,599
didn't seem really insulted by the slap anyway, So I

783
00:45:47,679 --> 00:45:52,840
was like, and yeah, I didn't like this pigoting.

784
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,639
Speaker 1: And I was gonna say, you think because I because

785
00:45:59,639 --> 00:46:01,400
when I was hyping this as the match went on,

786
00:46:01,519 --> 00:46:05,480
I thought I was being overly cruel. Yes, I spent

787
00:46:05,519 --> 00:46:09,360
a lot of time complimenting Serena entrance, but in the

788
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,719
beginning I thought she was trying a little bit too

789
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,920
hard to look healish. I'm not sure if that was

790
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,079
a reaction to Xena sort of being a little bit

791
00:46:18,159 --> 00:46:21,719
dead pan, or she was just trying to add But

792
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,360
it settled down early, so I was not going to

793
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:25,800
say it, but now I feel like I have to.

794
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,039
But it was almost it was almost campy, which might

795
00:46:29,039 --> 00:46:31,239
be okay for wrestling. I know that you're working for

796
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,920
the back of the room, so I just wanted to

797
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,840
throw that out there if you felt the same thing.

798
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,320
But also, Xena is the face. I mean, I thought

799
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,360
her her finisher was a little bit I've seen it.

800
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,280
It looked okay, but I've seen it where she couldn't

801
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:45,920
quite do it.

802
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,599
Speaker 2: Well, let's wait for the finish. I mean, there's there's

803
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,880
more to cover in this masks. After that, she went

804
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,880
into that headlock takedown. I will I will say that

805
00:46:58,119 --> 00:47:02,199
solid headlocks Xena I liked her face with the you know,

806
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,760
the tongue sticking out. She has more personality. There was

807
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,800
some good you know, I was talking about the little

808
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:12,480
elbows of Arlem. Serena did them good, like good, we

809
00:47:12,559 --> 00:47:15,840
swing all the way back into the stomach boom. Serena

810
00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:19,440
like it looked good. But they worked a little bit

811
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:25,000
too fast. Then there was a clothesline and back to

812
00:47:25,079 --> 00:47:31,159
the headlock and the crowd was clapping for Serena. Serena

813
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,559
was down into a headlock. The crowd was clapping for Serena.

814
00:47:35,159 --> 00:47:38,719
She is supposed to be again, I repeat, clear as

815
00:47:39,039 --> 00:47:43,760
day heel right now. You know what, she's a babyface.

816
00:47:44,199 --> 00:47:48,239
I look at her and icy babyface. There's a There

817
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,880
was like a cool duck from Serena, you know, the

818
00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:57,760
split and then again it looks like Serena is doing

819
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:03,000
hope spots during Zena eat. But she's the he apparently

820
00:48:04,039 --> 00:48:08,679
cut by a big slam. Xena misses the corner and

821
00:48:09,039 --> 00:48:12,760
Serena goes for you know, boots and choke and the split,

822
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:19,920
broncobuster and stump and then she finally goes into heel mode.

823
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,559
But oh my god, did they lose time at the beginning,

824
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,000
like you're supposed to know right from the start, who's

825
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,440
the heel, who's the face. Right from that slap. There

826
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:35,800
should have been something where Zena's mad. She runs at

827
00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:38,920
Serena and she either dropped toe holds her in the

828
00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:42,719
rope and starts choking and starts jaw jacket right away,

829
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,000
and she right right there. But no, they kind of

830
00:48:46,039 --> 00:48:48,599
went into I don't know, catch me if you can,

831
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,320
and then fucking drop me and then go back to

832
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,559
chain wrestling. Made no fucking sense. But anyway, we're in

833
00:48:55,599 --> 00:48:56,159
the good part.

834
00:48:56,199 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: Now.

835
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 2: Serena is a fucking heel. She she's talking crap at

836
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,559
the ref at the people at Zena kicks in the

837
00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:08,800
back good body scissors. Now the crowd is clapping for

838
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,440
Xena the baby face. Finally she goes for a pin

839
00:49:12,519 --> 00:49:15,280
attempt though as a little hope spot, but it's so

840
00:49:16,519 --> 00:49:19,360
so fast that it kind of looks like shit. It

841
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:25,039
looks bad. The shoulders are not really both on the mat,

842
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,960
but they go into a double down like flying clothesline

843
00:49:30,159 --> 00:49:35,119
ish from Zena. It looks good. Then the comeback they do.

844
00:49:35,679 --> 00:49:38,400
I really like comebacks like this where the baby face

845
00:49:38,519 --> 00:49:41,760
blocks the heel punch and then punches back and then

846
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:46,000
chops and block and punch and chops. Then there was this,

847
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:52,679
you know for the Zena's come back to clothesline up down,

848
00:49:53,039 --> 00:49:58,239
a backsplash, a tilta World Slam one two three. Once

849
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:03,079
again they went in into a fucking comeback into a finish.

850
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:09,360
It was flacked. I didn't see any you know well

851
00:50:09,519 --> 00:50:13,440
working a bottom part. It's I'm guessing it it's the

852
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:17,199
back because the scissors and the stump in the back.

853
00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:20,280
But there was, you know, a broncho buster, and there

854
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,719
were chokes and stuff. It was not really targeted, like

855
00:50:25,039 --> 00:50:29,519
not not as much as Terry Taylor wanted to see it.

856
00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:35,199
The hits were good. The Xena's fire was better. I like,

857
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,920
like I said, like when she does her chin wrestling stuff,

858
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:44,440
now she has personality in her face, like, but my god,

859
00:50:44,519 --> 00:50:49,519
that was a flat fIF And Zina she does have

860
00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:53,599
more intensity, more personality, but she rushes it to everything

861
00:50:54,960 --> 00:51:01,079
and then at the end she goes and Slapslinton in

862
00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:05,119
the face. Was just so fucking elish. And then she

863
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:11,880
starts skipping and she's selling her belly. I was like, why, Yeah,

864
00:51:12,039 --> 00:51:16,519
the scissors okay, but there was not long enough. You know,

865
00:51:16,599 --> 00:51:19,000
there was kicks to the backs and stumps, like I

866
00:51:19,039 --> 00:51:22,960
would sell the lure back or whatever part of the

867
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,239
fucking back before I would put my hand on the stomach.

868
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,440
I mean, she had two elbows, but really is that

869
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:35,239
would cause so much damage? And I was like, with

870
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,119
the end of it, before I talk about the end,

871
00:51:39,199 --> 00:51:41,360
anything else you want to say about that match? You

872
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:45,159
you were already talking about the finish, So yeah, it was.

873
00:51:46,599 --> 00:51:50,199
Speaker 1: You. I mean, I think we can sum it up.

874
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,360
And Xena doesn't know how to tell a story in

875
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:59,599
the because she's not actually being hurt. She doesn't understand

876
00:51:59,639 --> 00:52:04,519
how to to demonstrate really anything to the audience. I mean,

877
00:52:04,599 --> 00:52:08,480
I understand the attractiveness of her mud, you know, and

878
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:12,360
and they want to sculptor, but you know it, it's

879
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,800
like we've we they you know, you don't need to

880
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,400
make a David, but you need you need to make sense.

881
00:52:18,559 --> 00:52:20,440
We've got to get past the figure They were like

882
00:52:20,559 --> 00:52:23,239
five thousand years ago, and we're still sort of in

883
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,360
the five thousand year ago figurine stage.

884
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 2: It's it's something some promoters would ask me. Uh they

885
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:34,119
would they would say like, hey, we have this girl,

886
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:39,480
can you like push her? Meaning you know, uh, not hurt,

887
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,480
but you know, shake her a little bit just to

888
00:52:43,519 --> 00:52:46,760
see if she has anything. You know in our gouts like, no.

889
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,559
Speaker 1: You don't like talking about yourself in this context. But honestly,

890
00:52:51,119 --> 00:52:54,400
if they really believe in Xena, they should give her

891
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:59,079
to you for two to four weeks because you could

892
00:52:59,079 --> 00:53:01,960
teach her that or you can say she's just not

893
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:02,480
gonna learn.

894
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 2: She needs, you know what she needs. But the problem

895
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,360
with w W there's no girls like that. She needs

896
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:18,480
a Seamus uh Ilia, Dragonoff Well, shanea Basler, that's why.

897
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,079
But she's not. She's been at the PC a little bit,

898
00:53:24,199 --> 00:53:28,880
but she needs someone that's gonna wrestle her, and it's

899
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:34,159
gonna it's someone who's gonna actually hit her. So she

900
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,199
feels something and she she see if she gets mad,

901
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,079
you need to push her because it's nothing's gonna happen.

902
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,559
Speaker 1: I know that she's not doing great, absolutely on the

903
00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:49,920
main roster, and I know that she's working a WWE

904
00:53:50,079 --> 00:53:55,159
style now, but Julia came from that hard heading background.

905
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,519
Like if they had her work with Julia, that that

906
00:53:59,599 --> 00:54:02,239
might be something that's worth while. I mean, I know

907
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:07,760
you have Julia's got a schedule already, but I don't know.

908
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:12,599
Speaker 2: I would The only thing I'm afraid would be if

909
00:54:12,639 --> 00:54:19,559
there's any language barrier, if but I mean she she needs,

910
00:54:20,039 --> 00:54:22,599
it would work because if you throw Julia in there

911
00:54:22,639 --> 00:54:25,519
and just say, like, hey, throw her around, beat the

912
00:54:25,519 --> 00:54:28,679
shit out of her. It's like, hey, Xena, just just

913
00:54:28,679 --> 00:54:33,800
fucking follow and see what happens. She would be Yeah,

914
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:38,320
she could do it for you. Well, she's not there anymore,

915
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,320
but Oscar would be one that could do that.

916
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: Well, she sort of is. She's just he's just gone.

917
00:54:43,119 --> 00:54:45,840
She's just all the break. Obviously, she took the pay

918
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,039
cut for half the money or whatever, and she's working

919
00:54:49,039 --> 00:54:51,079
half a year. But they could hire her on a

920
00:54:51,159 --> 00:54:53,440
ten ninety nine you know well, it's already a ten

921
00:54:53,519 --> 00:54:56,079
ninety nine on a on a you know whatever per

922
00:54:56,119 --> 00:54:59,960
diem for the you know under now that you can

923
00:55:00,159 --> 00:55:04,239
a consulting contract or training contract. I mean, I'm whatever.

924
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:06,519
They have the best lawyers in the world. They can

925
00:55:06,559 --> 00:55:07,840
figure this shit out.

926
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, they wouldn't either.

927
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:10,599
Speaker 1: Girl.

928
00:55:10,639 --> 00:55:13,119
Speaker 2: I would say English speaking.

929
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:19,199
Speaker 1: Because I mean you, yeah, Mercedes Martinez, if you don't

930
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:23,440
want to volunteer yourself, Mercedes Martinez, who's probably available, I

931
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,480
know she's available for work. This is her last year

932
00:55:25,639 --> 00:55:29,280
wrestling wrestling, so she's available for work as well, and

933
00:55:29,519 --> 00:55:32,599
she'd be a great trainer for in this hard hitting style.

934
00:55:34,519 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 2: I don't think the girls want someone like this though. Okay,

935
00:55:40,079 --> 00:55:43,719
Unfortunately there's there's people who go and complain that some

936
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:48,239
of the girls are too are too tough, and then

937
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,440
you don't see them. You wonder why.

938
00:55:50,679 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, they're they're they they're fighting for a

939
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,840
coveted spot on TV. I mean, I know that wrestling

940
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,800
fans and a lot of people think that everybody going

941
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,119
through the system should make it to the main roster.

942
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,239
First of all, there's not enough spots for that, and

943
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,239
there's not enough spots and TV for u SEC. So

944
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:08,159
it's a coveted spot.

945
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 2: So if and there's some people who don't want to

946
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:11,599
give their.

947
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: Spots and this is gender neutral, if you are a

948
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,760
girl or a guy or something in between and you

949
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:21,119
don't want to learn a certain thing, then just just quit.

950
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,519
Speaker 2: So what happened in the end, the slap in the

951
00:56:25,559 --> 00:56:27,639
phase and the skipping and the kind of I was like,

952
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:34,800
if anything, I hope this is Zena slowly going to

953
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:39,159
the dark side and turninghel if that's where you're going

954
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,320
the end of this match, it makes sense. If that's

955
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:49,159
not the plan, I would take her, you know, aside

956
00:56:49,199 --> 00:56:52,840
to say, what the fuck was that? You were supposed

957
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:57,760
to be a fucking babyface whatever whatever, and right.

958
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 1: And I said she did the pie face after the

959
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:01,079
match was over.

960
00:57:01,199 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the well I call it the slap

961
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,639
but yes, kind of slap pie face things. I was like, yeah,

962
00:57:07,679 --> 00:57:08,639
that's that's what I mean.

963
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:11,599
Speaker 1: I'm just like that and that was me. I'm like,

964
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,480
what the fuck was that? You're the face? Yeah?

965
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's why I'm saying, if that's a slow

966
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:22,079
bill to her being pissed off and then turning, okay,

967
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:28,119
I see, I see. But Terry goes like that was

968
00:57:28,159 --> 00:57:32,119
so good and he's like then he explains and then

969
00:57:32,119 --> 00:57:34,519
it's like, okay, I get it. He's like, the mechanics

970
00:57:34,519 --> 00:57:38,280
were goods, but you know, smooths are a small part.

971
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,519
And I was like, yeah, move wise, they were better

972
00:57:42,559 --> 00:57:46,480
than the guys before. It was more hard hitting. I mean,

973
00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:51,159
besides that, the beginning didn't like. The story didn't ah

974
00:57:51,199 --> 00:57:55,639
to me was shit. The moves, the hits, the headlock, takedowns,

975
00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:00,360
the everything was betver, So okay, I agree with that.

976
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:06,400
He's like the problem with people who are, you know,

977
00:58:06,519 --> 00:58:08,679
so young in their career is they don't have the

978
00:58:08,719 --> 00:58:15,000
experience to wait those four uncomfortable seconds between the moves

979
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:20,559
to get the reaction. And I mean it is so true.

980
00:58:21,079 --> 00:58:24,400
Say you know, I was saying that with Cole and Arlem.

981
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:30,400
Cole should have hit way, do something, talk, kill time,

982
00:58:30,719 --> 00:58:35,920
then go back. And that's exactly what Terry Taylor says

983
00:58:36,079 --> 00:58:40,440
at this point, like these are uncomfortable seconds, but you

984
00:58:40,519 --> 00:58:43,639
gotta fill them up with something, especially if you're the heel,

985
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,000
and then they don't feel so uncomfortable and you give

986
00:58:47,039 --> 00:58:50,079
time to your baby face to suffer. Look at the

987
00:58:50,159 --> 00:58:54,000
people and tell them only with their eyes and the

988
00:58:54,079 --> 00:58:57,559
pain on his face, please help me. I need your help.

989
00:58:58,199 --> 00:59:01,079
And if the heel doesn't give you time to do this,

990
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,719
then it's just like move move move wrestling, and you

991
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:10,519
don't get the feeling part of the feeling business. So

992
00:59:11,039 --> 00:59:13,760
I he was right when he said, like the legsigasers

993
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,280
should have been longer. So Zena looks in Jeopardy like

994
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,920
the people just started to clap when they begin, you know,

995
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,159
when they begin to move again, so keep it longer.

996
00:59:24,679 --> 00:59:29,039
You know, the audience needs time to understand. And just

997
00:59:29,079 --> 00:59:31,559
like you mentioned before, I feel like Terry Taylor is

998
00:59:31,639 --> 00:59:36,000
so good at explaining things in a simple way. It's

999
00:59:36,039 --> 00:59:40,800
like he says a lot with a few words. But

1000
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,760
the thing is you have to listen and you have

1001
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:47,159
to apply what he's saying. Matt says, like Matt Bloom says,

1002
00:59:47,199 --> 00:59:51,000
he enjoyed the match. Uh Serena should have you know,

1003
00:59:51,119 --> 00:59:54,440
got the beach bitchiness? How out? And I'm like, what

1004
00:59:54,599 --> 00:59:57,079
the fuck? What was he? What was I don't know

1005
00:59:57,119 --> 01:00:01,320
he didn't did he uh drink his coffee this morning?

1006
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,079
Because like it's been two matches and back to back

1007
01:00:04,079 --> 01:00:09,840
that I'm like, I didn't see the bitchiness. I saw

1008
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,280
it as soon as like the you know, she she

1009
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,199
started kicking Xena in the back and then the stump

1010
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,400
and then but it took a while, like like right

1011
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,280
from the start she felt like a baby face to me,

1012
01:00:22,639 --> 01:00:26,239
She's like there was nothing major besides that slap that

1013
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:30,519
led to nothing to a headlock. I was like, fuck,

1014
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,079
you know, he's like work the holes, you know, so

1015
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,079
you know, so the baby face can can work and

1016
01:00:40,119 --> 01:00:44,320
that they don't give up while they're hurting and stuff.

1017
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:49,320
I was like, yeah, like all good like advice and

1018
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:54,679
thinks to uply in the next match. But I was like, oh,

1019
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,239
my head is hurting from this.

1020
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: Here are all my notes, the TOTALI of my my

1021
01:00:59,719 --> 01:01:02,679
non match related or not part of the match notes.

1022
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:06,480
Coaches think they rushed everything. Terry said, mechanics were good,

1023
01:01:06,519 --> 01:01:09,719
but take twice as much time. Great advice. He explained

1024
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:11,880
how the crowd must think the faces in jeopardy and

1025
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:15,679
they want to help her. They got that at towards

1026
01:01:15,719 --> 01:01:18,280
the end. This match very much had acts in it.

1027
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,159
I don't think it was on purpose, but it very

1028
01:01:20,239 --> 01:01:24,360
much had accent bloom. He liked the match. Zena said,

1029
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,360
I need to know how to get the audience into it. Yeah.

1030
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:30,039
I mean Xena always reacts properly to what they say,

1031
01:01:30,079 --> 01:01:34,400
it just doesn't translate so much into the ring though

1032
01:01:34,519 --> 01:01:39,280
she has started emoting above the waisligne. You know, so

1033
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,719
she got that my notes about myself. I was bored

1034
01:01:42,719 --> 01:01:43,280
by this match.

1035
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 2: Yeah like it. It's there's like two parts in this match.

1036
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:52,360
There's a part where Serena's the babyface, and then there's

1037
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:57,519
a part where Xena's the baby face and then they

1038
01:01:57,519 --> 01:02:01,159
go really quickly to a finish. There's no like, oh

1039
01:02:01,199 --> 01:02:01,920
my god.

1040
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:06,239
Speaker 1: Like neither one cried and so no water work. So

1041
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:10,559
Jeff was wrong. So nobody is overly emotional. So Jeff

1042
01:02:10,639 --> 01:02:13,280
was wrong. And I'm very happy to admit that. However,

1043
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:17,800
I'm scratching my head now as to why Serena was cut,

1044
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,840
because that was the only reason that I could put

1045
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:22,840
my finger on it. And I do think she acted

1046
01:02:23,199 --> 01:02:26,320
heally and while this was hardly perfect, I mean she

1047
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,880
had she had sort of imperfect dance partner, and I

1048
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,280
mean I think there's something there. Again, I'm not a

1049
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,039
giant Serena fan, but I know a lot of people are,

1050
01:02:36,199 --> 01:02:40,239
and clearly there was there's a market for that, you know,

1051
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,159
looks wise, the whole package she did, the Molly Go Round.

1052
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,679
I mean, I know that Aaron Rourke is doing that too,

1053
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:48,440
But I mean, I think more than one person I'm

1054
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:52,960
the same finisher, especially if they're in different divisions won

1055
01:02:53,039 --> 01:02:57,760
a woman, So I don't you know, I don't know. Also,

1056
01:02:58,159 --> 01:03:00,239
one of them can change their finisher, and I would

1057
01:03:00,239 --> 01:03:03,599
suggest to be him, because she does it better than

1058
01:03:03,639 --> 01:03:08,760
he does. Anyway, Uh, you know, I'm not going to

1059
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:10,599
go on a rent like I did about Apollo Cruise,

1060
01:03:10,639 --> 01:03:13,840
because single A isn't supposed to advance every everybody and

1061
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:17,079
sometimes hard decisions have to be made. I will go

1062
01:03:17,199 --> 01:03:19,920
back to you didn't have to do it four months ago,

1063
01:03:20,039 --> 01:03:21,840
and wait for the damn show to air and then

1064
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,320
do it if you're going to do it. But anyway, Serena,

1065
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,000
if you're listening, you know I've invited you onto the show.

1066
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:27,880
We would love to have you.

1067
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,239
Speaker 2: And then we go to the main event tag Team

1068
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:37,000
and we have a tag team specialists in Bubba, he's like,

1069
01:03:37,159 --> 01:03:40,760
what's the story here? And he's actually asking the guys

1070
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:44,639
what's the story? So Cruise in Alifield everything is about

1071
01:03:44,679 --> 01:03:49,159
mentorship and Malik and Jamie is like, we justmept. This

1072
01:03:49,239 --> 01:03:52,599
is our first shot at the LFG Arena. It's our shot,

1073
01:03:52,719 --> 01:03:56,320
so it's very important which and Bubba's like, yep, exactly,

1074
01:03:56,599 --> 01:04:00,559
It's it's very simple. What's the reality of this match?

1075
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:04,639
This is okay? Sell me that in me. It's important

1076
01:04:04,679 --> 01:04:07,199
to you. You want to shine, you want to prove

1077
01:04:07,199 --> 01:04:10,119
that you belong in this arena and this main event

1078
01:04:10,199 --> 01:04:16,119
and you are maybe not brock Lessner the next big thing,

1079
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,880
but a big thing coming, like you have potential and

1080
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,920
you're gonna go up to NXD. So awesome, like they

1081
01:04:24,079 --> 01:04:28,199
they knew what they had to do. Bluem wants to

1082
01:04:28,239 --> 01:04:31,719
see the synergy. How well can they gel as a team.

1083
01:04:33,079 --> 01:04:39,760
And I love that Olifield man, Like I love him

1084
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:45,199
more every time I see him. Why because while they're practicing, okay,

1085
01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:50,960
they're going over the match, he's practicing his reactions, his

1086
01:04:51,239 --> 01:04:55,679
selling his intensity, like he's not just going to the motion.

1087
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,760
He stops and takes time to say, okay, here, I'm

1088
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,559
going to to do this as a reaction. Here. I

1089
01:05:02,639 --> 01:05:05,519
was like, oh, I'm gonna go and you know work,

1090
01:05:06,239 --> 01:05:09,800
You see that every detail for him is important and

1091
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:13,679
it counts and honestly it's the way it should be,

1092
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:21,679
and like Bubba gives him it's it's actually something we

1093
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:27,760
mentioned like Olie, Phil should avoid punches at all costs

1094
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:32,400
during the match, and of course Booker Tie approves. He's

1095
01:05:32,519 --> 01:05:39,840
like save it, yeah, save it, And right away Elijah

1096
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,519
gets it. He's like, yeah, it has to be like

1097
01:05:42,639 --> 01:05:46,360
once the writing goes up, the match is over.

1098
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,239
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want to because he's an adult,

1099
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:53,400
but he's a smart young man. He is smart, he's

1100
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:57,280
so coachable. Yeah, we both like him. We both liked

1101
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,400
him the first time he saw him. We both like

1102
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:04,039
him even more. I have something that's okay back to Bubba,

1103
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,639
because remember in earlier seasons, Bubba made a really big

1104
01:06:07,679 --> 01:06:09,760
deal about not shaking people's hand and you had to

1105
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,559
earn my handshake. As far as I can tell, this

1106
01:06:12,719 --> 01:06:16,639
was Bubba's first exchange with Jamie Slash Romeo Moreno, and

1107
01:06:16,679 --> 01:06:19,039
he went right to shaking his hand. So is this

1108
01:06:19,119 --> 01:06:21,920
that Bubba was being a douche Canoe on purpose? Was

1109
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,639
it he was bj Ryan or bj Ray was a

1110
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,079
douche Canoe and Bubba was acting or has Bubba actually

1111
01:06:28,159 --> 01:06:31,400
changed and softened a little bit over time? Reason, these

1112
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,119
are kids. He's not there to intimidate, he's there to teach.

1113
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:38,519
Speaker 2: I would say, Bubba right away knew the other guy

1114
01:06:38,639 --> 01:06:42,800
was a douche, so he acted accordingly.

1115
01:06:43,679 --> 01:06:46,639
Speaker 1: So so the earning my handshake is on a case

1116
01:06:46,679 --> 01:06:47,360
by case.

1117
01:06:47,119 --> 01:06:53,239
Speaker 2: Basis, Yes, I would, I would think. So, you know,

1118
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:57,639
he arrives and Jamie's looking at you know him, with

1119
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:03,400
big eyes, and he's he's obvious listening, and like when

1120
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,079
you look at him. You feel like it's a kid

1121
01:07:05,159 --> 01:07:08,840
that doesn't want to do anything wrong, so he doesn't

1122
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,559
see him as an asshole or a douche or a

1123
01:07:11,599 --> 01:07:13,920
threat or you know, just.

1124
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 1: Told him we have high hopes for this kid. He

1125
01:07:17,519 --> 01:07:20,880
was killing it in Europe. Maybe maybe don't scare him away.

1126
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 2: Maybe, but yeah, I just feel Bubba it's a douche,

1127
01:07:26,519 --> 01:07:29,920
just just from the prior the show that was on

1128
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,559
the Roku channel, like it could be all this and

1129
01:07:32,599 --> 01:07:36,000
it's like, yeah, maybe maybe Bubba has a douche radar.

1130
01:07:36,679 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 1: He very I'm sure, very very much does and you

1131
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:40,840
don't need to have a strong douche. I mean, I

1132
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:44,039
think BJ would tell you his his character is I'm

1133
01:07:44,079 --> 01:07:46,960
a douche. I mean, is it a character though, right?

1134
01:07:47,199 --> 01:07:48,800
I mean I think that's it. But it's you know,

1135
01:07:49,079 --> 01:07:51,760
maybe turned up to eleven or maybe he's already at eleven.

1136
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:55,000
I I don't know, but you know, he he is douchey,

1137
01:07:55,119 --> 01:07:57,400
and you know he just postes something I'm three and

1138
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:01,679
oh on the indies. So I mean, I mean, good

1139
01:08:01,719 --> 01:08:04,000
for him, I get, I mean I sort of admire him,

1140
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,000
but I sort of don't at the same time. It's

1141
01:08:06,039 --> 01:08:10,880
it's it's it's a weird thing, but we're happy. We're

1142
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:12,559
happy to talk to to. I need to stop to

1143
01:08:12,679 --> 01:08:16,079
pretending like these folks are listening, but maybe you'll get them.

1144
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,600
Speaker 2: So they have a six minute match, which is really

1145
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:23,720
that's short for a tag team match, but Buba mentioned

1146
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,840
it's like it's six minutes, but it means it needs

1147
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:32,479
to mean something, and you know, if we go into

1148
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:37,640
the match right from the start, it's first of all,

1149
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:41,720
it's more of a baby baby thing. It's it's more

1150
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:48,079
of veteran team or mentorship team less because Ollie feels

1151
01:08:48,119 --> 01:08:50,640
not a veteran, of course, but he's under the guidance

1152
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:55,520
of a veteran versus two upcoming guys who are new

1153
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:59,600
to you know, the LFG crowd. We could even say

1154
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:02,720
that Nig teak around like a you know, the big

1155
01:09:03,119 --> 01:09:10,159
show of LFG slash close to nxt so Garcia. You know,

1156
01:09:10,279 --> 01:09:13,840
during the entrance, he has so much energy, he works

1157
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:18,520
the crowd. Malik is more serious and for some reason,

1158
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:22,199
I feel that the dynamic works. You got the like, yeah,

1159
01:09:22,359 --> 01:09:27,000
super excited guy and the guy that's like the reason

1160
01:09:27,359 --> 01:09:30,439
like it it can work. It's something that can work.

1161
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:34,039
They have a tag pose right in front of the camera,

1162
01:09:34,279 --> 01:09:37,880
right like right from the start, I see a team

1163
01:09:38,159 --> 01:09:42,520
like they've never teamed together, but they take this seriously

1164
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:47,279
and they have both have like very different attitudes and

1165
01:09:47,359 --> 01:09:50,439
they have like you see, like they're not the same,

1166
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:54,399
but they they need to gel and they're gonna make

1167
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:57,760
it work. And that's from the entrance. I can tell

1168
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:01,239
that from the entrance, And you know what, that's the

1169
01:10:01,239 --> 01:10:05,279
way it should be. I should not be asking questions

1170
01:10:05,319 --> 01:10:09,479
like I see Malik the serious one. Oh, he might

1171
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:15,359
do stuff that's not necessarily legal because he that's very serious.

1172
01:10:15,399 --> 01:10:18,640
The other guy, he's more up and going whatever, but

1173
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,479
it's important for him too. But he loves the crowd,

1174
01:10:22,039 --> 01:10:24,960
and I see the dynamic. I love it. And I

1175
01:10:25,079 --> 01:10:28,079
understand all this just from the entrance.

1176
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:32,520
Speaker 1: And okay, I mean call it. The answer is we

1177
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:36,680
saw the same thing but interpreted different ways. I agree

1178
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:40,359
the energy from garciiam Blade was completely different levels on

1179
01:10:40,399 --> 01:10:43,600
the entrance. I'm just not sure that that was planned

1180
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,720
or purposeful. I just think that's Malik and I felt, listen,

1181
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:50,640
maybe this is this is again projecting or over interpreting,

1182
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:54,439
because I knew that Malik had already been released, but

1183
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:58,079
I felt like everything in Malik's body language was surrender.

1184
01:10:58,399 --> 01:11:01,239
It's like he's like I was in a tag team

1185
01:11:01,399 --> 01:11:05,119
before they released my partner. They barely put me on Evolve.

1186
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:11,479
Now I'm here, and I think he knows that this

1187
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:13,760
is his last chance, and I don't think he's got

1188
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:17,159
that level of confidence. Again, you might be right that

1189
01:11:17,279 --> 01:11:18,920
one was supposed to be the hyped up one and

1190
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:21,960
one was a serious one. But you know this is

1191
01:11:22,159 --> 01:11:22,960
but because.

1192
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:24,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know if it was planned,

1193
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:28,000
but I that's the way they worked with it. And

1194
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:33,479
I felt like like I didn't overthink, you know, the

1195
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:39,880
release and everything, but just from watching it without without

1196
01:11:40,199 --> 01:11:43,840
you know, thinking about the outside stuff. I'm watching this

1197
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:48,319
as a wrestling fan, and that's how you know. That's

1198
01:11:48,359 --> 01:11:50,600
what I see. One is serious, the other one is

1199
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,680
really outgoing. But you know they have a tag team

1200
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:59,279
post they obviously talked, they have a plan. It goes

1201
01:11:59,319 --> 01:12:02,520
with the story that hey, this is our chance, so

1202
01:12:03,399 --> 01:12:04,840
they just aproaly.

1203
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 1: But this is where I would really love to hear

1204
01:12:08,279 --> 01:12:10,840
from you to see did you see what I see

1205
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:14,920
or did you see what lusaw? I fully accept that

1206
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:18,479
I might be over analyzing this thing based on information

1207
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:20,199
that was, you know, not supposed to be part of

1208
01:12:20,239 --> 01:12:23,880
the record when this aired. But yeah, I felt it

1209
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:27,840
was body language of surrender. But you're you're feeling like another.

1210
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:31,079
The problem with I thought they were supposed to be

1211
01:12:31,199 --> 01:12:33,560
the heels. Blade came out like with a heel, Garcia

1212
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,880
came out like a face, and I don't know if

1213
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:38,840
Elijah and Cruz was supposed to be heals. Nobody was

1214
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,479
gonna boo Elijah. I mean, he's already like Samoa Joe

1215
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:44,039
and then nobody's gonna he needs to do something terrible

1216
01:12:44,319 --> 01:12:49,039
to turn him heel. So, you know, so I didn't

1217
01:12:49,239 --> 01:12:54,319
I didn't get Blade being healy with the way that

1218
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,159
Romeo was so energetic, and I don't know if that

1219
01:12:58,239 --> 01:13:01,359
was supposed to be the story. But I will say

1220
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:03,840
this was a fun, high energy tag match. This was

1221
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:05,880
a good notch. So I don't want anyone to you know, again,

1222
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,920
I don't want to be overly negative, but I think

1223
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,000
if I say one positive thing and then I go

1224
01:13:11,079 --> 01:13:14,520
longer on the negative, I mean, that's that's it's not purposeful.

1225
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:16,920
But like the positive thing is the positive thing. Negative

1226
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,479
thing I feel needs to be explained. But yeah, but

1227
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:21,479
that's probably enough of me for the while.

1228
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:28,039
Speaker 2: So Elijah and Apollo they come out. Elijah's smiling a little.

1229
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:32,600
That's enough that tells me you're a babyface, you're a killer,

1230
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:35,880
or you're a babyface. Cruise has so much fire. They

1231
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:39,560
look great together. I was like, what if they had

1232
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:44,319
matching gear, that would be like great, but just just

1233
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:49,039
I mean money. I see money with them. Malik and

1234
01:13:49,119 --> 01:13:52,199
Jamie are in the corner and now they're both serious

1235
01:13:52,279 --> 01:13:55,119
their face there, you know, uh, they want to face

1236
01:13:55,159 --> 01:13:57,680
the challenge. Looking at their opponents getting in the ring,

1237
01:13:58,199 --> 01:14:00,680
and I feel like they're selling very well that it's

1238
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:05,920
their shot. They start the match with Oliphil and Blade

1239
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:10,640
and you know there's right there, there's a push and

1240
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,720
a good bump and right away, I you know, Holly

1241
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:18,520
feels the power and I love that. On the lock up,

1242
01:14:20,239 --> 01:14:24,239
Blade was like putting his arm in Ollifield's face, kind

1243
01:14:24,279 --> 01:14:28,600
of like it's it's such a little minute detail, but

1244
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:31,039
it was like, yeah, it tells me right away that

1245
01:14:31,079 --> 01:14:33,920
he takes it seriously. He knows he barely has a

1246
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,840
chance against this guy, so he's gonna, you know, he's

1247
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:39,960
gonna work everything he has. Again, like I said, solid

1248
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:43,680
push bump. There was like good self from the rookiecuse

1249
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,920
like he went in this corner, looked at his partners

1250
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,800
like what the fuck they were telling me, like with

1251
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,119
their faces like oh, this is Sears.

1252
01:14:51,159 --> 01:14:51,319
Speaker 1: Though.

1253
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,079
Speaker 2: These guys are real.

1254
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to compare the teams in terms

1255
01:14:56,039 --> 01:14:58,840
of experience and skill level, but this is very much

1256
01:14:59,199 --> 01:15:02,960
like Bobby Eaton trying to deal with Hawker Animal. You know,

1257
01:15:03,079 --> 01:15:06,760
it's exactly this guy's gonna kill me. He can kill me.

1258
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,840
He's much stronger than me, So I've got to I've

1259
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:12,199
got to take everything in my toolbox and toolkit to

1260
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:15,760
get over no matter how. And lady was.

1261
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,319
Speaker 2: From what yeah, and this is from what just the

1262
01:15:18,399 --> 01:15:21,880
lock up. They are telling me the story right from

1263
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:25,279
the lock up, and that's how it should be. The

1264
01:15:25,319 --> 01:15:28,239
fans should not be questioning what the fuck is going on.

1265
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,880
I see the story like from the entrance and the

1266
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:35,800
fucking you know, lock up and push, I know what's

1267
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:39,479
going on. And then that's where it gets really interesting.

1268
01:15:42,079 --> 01:15:46,800
Malik goes and attacked the arm right away, like very smart,

1269
01:15:47,199 --> 01:15:50,279
that's the threat. We don't want to get punched. Also,

1270
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,840
you know is arm I mean the punching arm and

1271
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:57,720
the injured arm not the same, but still his arms

1272
01:15:58,159 --> 01:16:03,880
his power. Let's focus on that. He tags in Garcia.

1273
01:16:04,359 --> 01:16:08,479
They again, you know, work the arm, reverse into a

1274
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:15,960
slam and again like once, what's Elijah's slams Garcia. He's

1275
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:19,880
selling his arm from whatever happened with with Moleik a

1276
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,840
few seconds before. He doesn't sell it much, but he

1277
01:16:23,159 --> 01:16:28,119
reminds us just by touching it that, oh, like something

1278
01:16:28,199 --> 01:16:32,319
happened with this arm, so he makes it important. They

1279
01:16:32,359 --> 01:16:36,840
go corner for a quick tag. There's a double tackle

1280
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:41,399
for the baby Faces of freaking press slam from Apollo Cruise,

1281
01:16:42,159 --> 01:16:45,319
go behind into a headlock, push into the ropes, and

1282
01:16:45,359 --> 01:16:49,560
then there's a blind tag. We don't see that. Malik

1283
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:54,720
is being smart again and tags this partner in. They

1284
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:56,560
don't know what's the baby Faces don't know what's going

1285
01:16:56,600 --> 01:17:00,680
on because it happened behind the back. So I just

1286
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:03,000
felt here it was a little bit too long for

1287
01:17:03,039 --> 01:17:05,720
the referee to count them out. They were in there

1288
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:11,159
for too long together. Uh, but a polo bumps Garcia

1289
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:17,439
go behigh and then big back elbow to Garcia and

1290
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:20,119
Malik is right there on the top rope with a

1291
01:17:20,159 --> 01:17:23,000
close line, so it took a big move from the

1292
01:17:23,039 --> 01:17:26,000
top rope to bring the bigger baby Face down so

1293
01:17:26,039 --> 01:17:29,279
he doesn't look stupid. But the heels with the blind

1294
01:17:29,359 --> 01:17:34,520
tag by, you know, going behind a polo so he

1295
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:38,439
doesn't know what's going on, you know, behind us back,

1296
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:43,039
Babyface doesn't look stupid. The heels are because right from

1297
01:17:43,039 --> 01:17:49,800
there you could see that they were. Malik was more mischievous,

1298
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:52,720
he had a plan, and Garcia was more of a

1299
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:56,159
baby baby be babyface. But now they see like, oh

1300
01:17:56,199 --> 01:17:58,520
this is serious, like we might need to do things

1301
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:02,960
that you know are not legal. The wind against these

1302
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:07,239
two guys, so they're telling me that story, which is great.

1303
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:16,359
You know, Molik goes to punch Elijah, and I love

1304
01:18:16,399 --> 01:18:22,880
that the referee goes on Elijah. This was so good

1305
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:28,279
because Molik leaves his corner, punches Elijah. Babyface is angry,

1306
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:32,239
goes in he's not legal, so the referee pushes him

1307
01:18:32,279 --> 01:18:35,840
back and that's where you know, brings They bring a

1308
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:39,840
polo to their corner. They they do like good work

1309
01:18:40,199 --> 01:18:42,800
together on their side of the ring, cutting the ring

1310
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:45,800
in half. They keep the guy away from his partner.

1311
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:50,439
They went into a little combo thing where they they

1312
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:56,399
both like jump over like a leaf frogs. I thank you.

1313
01:18:56,399 --> 01:18:58,520
I was looking for the like leaf frog. It was.

1314
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,359
It looked cute, but it was a little bit too

1315
01:19:01,399 --> 01:19:05,319
fancy once you're in, which we could say is the

1316
01:19:05,359 --> 01:19:08,199
heat right now, like they have control over the match,

1317
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:10,000
And it.

1318
01:19:10,079 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 1: Was like the second guy should have done an offensive

1319
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:13,359
movie exactly it was.

1320
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:16,359
Speaker 2: It was fancy, was cute, but it was not realistic.

1321
01:19:17,079 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: I have to be honest. I didn't mind it in

1322
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,199
the moment at all. But when Sean brought up, I'm like, yeah,

1323
01:19:21,199 --> 01:19:25,600
that's pretty smart. But the while I was watching the match,

1324
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:33,319
I appreciated the then not synchronously the quarry the choreography out,

1325
01:19:33,399 --> 01:19:33,800
but that's it.

1326
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:36,520
Speaker 2: Maybe it looked too chureraphed, Like if you do a

1327
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:39,079
drop down, the guy jumps over and then he gets

1328
01:19:39,119 --> 01:19:43,920
hit right away. There's a purpose to the drop down.

1329
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:49,479
Why would you jump? I mean the babyface should stop.

1330
01:19:49,239 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 1: The babyface, you know the maybe the heel member of

1331
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:54,760
the team did it on purpose, and the babyface member

1332
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:56,720
of the team was trying to be cute seeing fancy

1333
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,720
and maybe figured he'd do something on on the on

1334
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:04,640
the rebound, you know, when so I I really didn't.

1335
01:20:05,079 --> 01:20:05,720
I mean, I hear what.

1336
01:20:07,079 --> 01:20:10,560
Speaker 2: It's not the worst thing, especially that they did it right.

1337
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:13,600
There was no fuck up. It looked clean and right

1338
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,680
away from there, Garcia goes for a pin holding the tights.

1339
01:20:17,039 --> 01:20:21,319
So he's on Molik's plan now that they need to

1340
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:24,159
they need to cheat because these two guys are fucking real.

1341
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:28,640
So we see like the you were saying, once babyface,

1342
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:33,840
once heel, Yes, but the babyface sees that he will

1343
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:37,520
need the heel tactics to beat these guys too, So

1344
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,000
they get on the same page.

1345
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 1: On the double leapfroduct thing that could be part of

1346
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,920
the heel package going. We you know, telling the other guys,

1347
01:20:45,119 --> 01:20:46,880
we know that we can't match you with power, but

1348
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:50,600
you can't match us with speed and and sneakiness.

1349
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:55,119
Speaker 2: Yeah that too, But it was really you know, Cruz

1350
01:20:55,279 --> 01:20:57,720
was fighting back and you know when I talk about

1351
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:01,359
fighting back is like never dying. He was trying to punch,

1352
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:03,720
She was trying to push, She was trying to reach

1353
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:08,000
to this partner like you could get behind him and

1354
01:21:08,039 --> 01:21:09,840
you wanted to cheer him. It was like, yes, you

1355
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:11,840
can do it, Cruise, you can do it. Like he

1356
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:16,039
kept trying. He never he never died, like he gave

1357
01:21:16,119 --> 01:21:20,000
us hope. So as as a fan, like we would

1358
01:21:20,119 --> 01:21:24,720
normally cheer for him. So that again, great tag team wrestling.

1359
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:33,319
Speaker 1: Then he's great tag team wrestling. And a guy want

1360
01:21:33,359 --> 01:21:35,319
to put a rocket to a rookie, what do you do?

1361
01:21:35,399 --> 01:21:37,319
You put him on a tag team with somebody who

1362
01:21:38,359 --> 01:21:41,279
this guy volunteer. Shut up, stop Jeff, stop it, you

1363
01:21:41,319 --> 01:21:42,039
need to drink more.

1364
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 2: So Garcia pushes him back in this corner. Malik goes

1365
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:51,399
in nice snapmare headlock, you know, slows down the pace

1366
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:55,159
so that people start clapping for the baby face too,

1367
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:59,840
you know again fight back. Then you know there was

1368
01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:03,159
a tag. There was a miss from the second rope.

1369
01:22:03,359 --> 01:22:07,800
Garcia goes for mood Salt roll through, almost runs into Maleik,

1370
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:10,640
and just that those few seconds where it goes like,

1371
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:14,199
oh my god, I'm sorry, was enough you know for

1372
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:18,359
Apollo to come in running and they were kind of

1373
01:22:18,399 --> 01:22:20,920
surprised by him. So he will break the kind of

1374
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:25,439
double clothesline they were going to do. I would guess

1375
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:29,199
boom they break it, and then boom tags it Ollie feel.

1376
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:33,079
So everything made sense. There was no dead time, even

1377
01:22:33,119 --> 01:22:35,520
the heel. What we could call the heels, I would

1378
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:39,600
say the rookie who are trying everything to win, the

1379
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:42,880
sneaky rookies. Let's call them this way because they're not

1380
01:22:43,159 --> 01:22:46,359
like very they're not evil, but they will cheat. So

1381
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:50,000
in this case they are the heels. It was a

1382
01:22:50,039 --> 01:22:54,479
great way, you know, to make them look They didn't

1383
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:58,159
look stupid because the mood salt thing and almost you know,

1384
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:03,079
ending up running into partner. That little thing was enough

1385
01:23:03,079 --> 01:23:05,399
for them to be surprised by a Paulo and go

1386
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:06,880
into the hot tag.

1387
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:11,079
Speaker 1: And when there's a hot tag, great hot best hot

1388
01:23:11,079 --> 01:23:11,920
tag I've seen.

1389
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 2: On Here's yeah, you know why because with a hot

1390
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:20,720
tag should come a bump and feet bump, bump, bump

1391
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:23,359
and bump, and then you go back to the baby

1392
01:23:23,399 --> 01:23:25,920
face bump and you go back to the babyface, which

1393
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:30,079
is what Garcia and Malik did, you know, and you know,

1394
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:34,680
tackles clothesline and what was he doing her friend Elijah,

1395
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:38,680
He was firing up. He was looking at all side

1396
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:42,920
of the crowds. You know. He went from corner the

1397
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:47,079
corner splashes with a lot of impulsion, a lot of energy,

1398
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:54,319
went into a bulldog full nelsle slam kickout. So there's excitement.

1399
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:57,760
It's not come back one, two three, it's like, oh shit,

1400
01:23:57,880 --> 01:23:59,319
there's a kickout.

1401
01:23:59,239 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 1: Then Malika, good bulldog.

1402
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:08,680
Speaker 2: Alside, it wasn't good Bulldog. I don't remember. I think so,

1403
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:13,880
but I mean that it doesn't matter. It was. It

1404
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:18,079
was back and forth. It was exciting. Nobody looked stupid.

1405
01:24:18,159 --> 01:24:22,840
They all look they they look even if one team

1406
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,000
was a lot stronger and had a veteran in it

1407
01:24:25,199 --> 01:24:28,960
like the other team. Look, they were giving us the

1408
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,600
impression that they could win because they were ready to

1409
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:36,640
do anything, pulling the tights, you know, tagging behind the referees, back,

1410
01:24:37,159 --> 01:24:41,600
going to hit the other partner on the apron like

1411
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:43,239
all like it was.

1412
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:45,159
Speaker 1: No one in this match deserved.

1413
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:50,560
Speaker 2: To be cut. And it was like Molic goes in,

1414
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:57,760
throws Oliefield out, and there's a punch from Apollo which

1415
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:02,600
sends Blade out. And remember like it's kind of a

1416
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:06,600
schmase right now. But the two guys you need to

1417
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:09,840
bring in, the two guys who are legal, which are

1418
01:25:10,319 --> 01:25:16,439
Garcia and Apollo. I mean, excuse me, excuse me, not

1419
01:25:17,119 --> 01:25:22,479
Garcia and Olifield. So Apollo, there's a little thing going

1420
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:26,600
on with Apollo and Garcia there's a rolling drop kick,

1421
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:32,039
Apollo goes out, Garcia jumps on the top rope to

1422
01:25:32,319 --> 01:25:36,199
the outside. It was like damn, it was like really

1423
01:25:36,199 --> 01:25:39,800
impressive crossbody and cruise of and Apollo. So it's really

1424
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:42,119
back and forth at this point, which is the part

1425
01:25:42,279 --> 01:25:47,079
that we call falsees why because it's they look like finishes.

1426
01:25:47,199 --> 01:25:50,159
It could be finished at you know, any seconds, but

1427
01:25:50,199 --> 01:25:52,600
they kick out, so you're like, oh my god. Oh

1428
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:54,800
so that's how you get the end of a match

1429
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:58,680
to be exciting. You don't know who's gonna win, and

1430
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:01,439
then you know, even if if one team is a

1431
01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:06,199
lot stronger, the other team is willing to do fucking

1432
01:26:06,399 --> 01:26:10,520
everything that moves. Why because they sold it at the

1433
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:13,600
beginning and they even mentioned it before the story of

1434
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:17,119
this match is that this is our shot. We need

1435
01:26:17,159 --> 01:26:20,520
to do everything to make a name for ourselves, and

1436
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:26,279
that's exactly what they're doing. Garcia jump on top rope

1437
01:26:26,279 --> 01:26:30,800
for a crossbody on cruise outside. Yes, throws Elijah in

1438
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:34,920
because Elijah is the legal man. Goes on the top

1439
01:26:35,079 --> 01:26:38,479
rope for a drop kick and he misses, and what

1440
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:43,479
is the babyface doing now? He calls for his knockout punch,

1441
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:48,840
looks at the crowd, fucking Craik the arm bam great,

1442
01:26:49,199 --> 01:26:53,359
great fucking cell of Garcia and falls like a potato

1443
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:58,359
sack one, two three with a solid pinfall with the legover.

1444
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:06,840
This was a great match. Everybody looked great. These guys

1445
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:12,600
are money. I think I think Malik looked great. He

1446
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:17,479
sold so good, like the guy who's he's more of

1447
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:20,279
a heel and he wants to do everything to win,

1448
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:23,760
and his partner who's like super Babyface. He even gets

1449
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:27,000
on his side because he's like, yeah, his plan is

1450
01:27:27,039 --> 01:27:31,239
probably the one who's gonna work, so goes in, you know,

1451
01:27:31,359 --> 01:27:37,720
pulls the tight. There's never anything very dirty like I

1452
01:27:38,079 --> 01:27:43,399
rake or you know, joking, but there's enough to say

1453
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:46,640
this is so important. We're gonna play with the worlds.

1454
01:27:47,159 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 1: And that might come next is if it gets desperate enough.

1455
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:53,720
I love this ending. It's not just that he missed

1456
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:56,119
the missile drop kick from the top rope. It's that

1457
01:27:56,239 --> 01:28:00,159
Elijah walked away almost like the Samoa Joe Why but

1458
01:28:00,199 --> 01:28:02,680
it was an homage to it, and it was it

1459
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:06,079
was so smart. And then Romeo gets up and walks.

1460
01:28:06,399 --> 01:28:08,920
He turns around right into the side of the impact.

1461
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:15,960
The timing was perfect. It was beautiful and I agree

1462
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:18,880
with everything he said. Bubba was happy. I've never seen

1463
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:20,560
Bubba this happy on this.

1464
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:25,640
Speaker 2: He and fun. I'm like, yes, exactly.

1465
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:28,880
Speaker 1: And you know what I say, t k o ww,

1466
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:31,520
you are mother Truckers for releasing two out of the

1467
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:34,359
four people who were in this match. Mother Truckers.

1468
01:28:36,039 --> 01:28:39,600
Speaker 2: Of course, we don't know whatever's going on the PC.

1469
01:28:41,319 --> 01:28:45,840
Were there other problems. Yeah, I'm playing Devil's advocate here,

1470
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:49,279
but if you just look at this match, if you

1471
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:53,000
just look at this match, you're like, fuck, I see

1472
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:56,800
a team that can be money money, money money, not

1473
01:28:56,960 --> 01:29:02,119
only in NXC. On the main roster and the two

1474
01:29:02,119 --> 01:29:06,840
other guys did great. They worked really well as a team.

1475
01:29:07,359 --> 01:29:12,199
I would have pushed that that, you know, like I said,

1476
01:29:12,199 --> 01:29:16,239
like the Sears guy and the like it's almost like,

1477
01:29:17,239 --> 01:29:20,039
you know, the Terry Gordy and Michael Lays like ones

1478
01:29:20,119 --> 01:29:23,800
like really out there fucking outgoing and shaking and dancing,

1479
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:27,880
and the other one is more of a stoic no.

1480
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:31,520
Speaker 1: Shit, you know, right, and then there's w Jack Roberts,

1481
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:33,560
who's even just just play mean.

1482
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:38,600
Speaker 2: So these kind of dynamics they work, and they could

1483
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:41,680
have had that with these two guys, because you know,

1484
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:45,479
apparently they never worked together. If if it is the case,

1485
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:50,199
and right from this match, they're dude, they're giving you

1486
01:29:50,279 --> 01:29:53,880
this fuck that was that was the way to go,

1487
01:29:54,800 --> 01:30:00,399
I think so. But anyway, we see Sean like, we're

1488
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:03,560
not go over again. You just mentioned the leapfrog thing,

1489
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:05,920
that there should have been a leapfrog and an offense,

1490
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:12,119
which absolutely right. You know, Bubba loved that, the fact

1491
01:30:12,159 --> 01:30:14,319
that they had a hold on cruise and as soon

1492
01:30:14,359 --> 01:30:17,159
as Malik went in, he went into another old to

1493
01:30:17,239 --> 01:30:22,479
bring him down and get the crowd going, so great,

1494
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:25,960
hottag come back. But you know, sell up, you know,

1495
01:30:26,119 --> 01:30:30,279
little details because the back of the house must see.

1496
01:30:30,319 --> 01:30:33,840
And that's true, like everything you do, whoever's sitting in back,

1497
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:39,039
they either have to see you, you know, feel it

1498
01:30:39,319 --> 01:30:42,279
or hear it. They need to be part of whatever's

1499
01:30:42,319 --> 01:30:47,800
going on and anyway possible, you know a Paul Gibbs

1500
01:30:48,039 --> 01:30:51,920
great advice to Ali Field. There's no limit. And then again,

1501
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:57,600
I'm mad, God, damn, I don't want to go over

1502
01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:01,359
this fucking show more than we did. The two first

1503
01:31:01,399 --> 01:31:02,239
matches were.

1504
01:31:02,079 --> 01:31:06,600
Speaker 1: Like we have a Pelita watch. We got Class of

1505
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:07,520
Champions coming up.

1506
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:13,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the two first matches were like blah, the

1507
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:18,840
last one was great. And as you say, the from

1508
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:24,119
the first two matches, Serena Linton was cut, which is

1509
01:31:24,199 --> 01:31:28,279
probably the one that had a little something in all

1510
01:31:28,319 --> 01:31:32,319
the four people in the first two matches, and then

1511
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:35,439
there's two people the main event that was great that

1512
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:40,479
were cut. So what do you wanted to do?

1513
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 1: It was like, no, exactly. I mean, I think I

1514
01:31:44,079 --> 01:31:46,560
think I've made my feelings on this like more like

1515
01:31:47,239 --> 01:31:48,880
probably more than anybody wants to hear.

1516
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:55,239
Speaker 2: So hopefully next week we have I'm not I don't know.

1517
01:31:55,399 --> 01:31:57,119
I don't know what I'm expecting for next week.

1518
01:31:57,159 --> 01:32:03,159
Speaker 1: Now. I was like tomorrow in real time do I

1519
01:32:03,319 --> 01:32:05,479
and I didn't. Normally I do a peek ahead and

1520
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:07,600
I see what the show's title is. I haven't done

1521
01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:09,359
that yet this this week.

1522
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:14,720
Speaker 5: But you know, first of all, I can be blameless

1523
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:18,520
because as we both know that we've had very hard weeks,

1524
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:21,239
both of us and more than just one week for

1525
01:32:21,359 --> 01:32:21,880
both of us.

1526
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 1: Uh and I think we hide that well, but it's true.

1527
01:32:26,239 --> 01:32:28,840
And there's a lot of fucking wrestling. There's a lot

1528
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:31,640
of fucking wrestling on this weekend. We've got class, we

1529
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:35,479
have I watch MLW. We have Triple A. There's you know,

1530
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:36,079
if you.

1531
01:32:37,039 --> 01:32:42,239
Speaker 2: A w TNA and I'm going to wrestling show the night,

1532
01:32:42,319 --> 01:32:42,720
I'm like.

1533
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 1: An n w A on comment if if if you

1534
01:32:46,039 --> 01:32:48,880
watch it, I mean, so if you do support all wrestling,

1535
01:32:49,039 --> 01:32:50,960
I mean and plus I'm sure there's a million indie

1536
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:53,800
shows that are on i W TV and then and

1537
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:59,039
things like that and j c W, Lunacy whatever. Anyway,

1538
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:00,399
where can I find you?

1539
01:33:01,039 --> 01:33:04,319
Speaker 2: They can find me on x at Lofisto, Facebook, dot com,

1540
01:33:04,319 --> 01:33:10,000
slash Lofisto, LuFisto Original on YouTube. I just like added

1541
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:13,239
a bunch of matches that there's a new one every

1542
01:33:13,359 --> 01:33:16,359
day for the next few days, so look it up

1543
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:22,840
on LuFisto Arts and pro Wrestling on Instagram. Also follow

1544
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:28,000
LuFisto dot doc which is my documentary that they are

1545
01:33:28,039 --> 01:33:31,520
working on. Still in production, but they're releasing little images

1546
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:35,760
and you know, little bits of stories and stuff. So

1547
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:40,720
check it out. And of course follow the Wrestling Soup

1548
01:33:41,199 --> 01:33:44,439
The Wrestling Soup of course on YouTube, subscribe to their channel,

1549
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:47,720
subscribe to their Patreon, follow them on give them some

1550
01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:50,560
love and where can they find you?

1551
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:54,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do also want to thank wrestling Soup, So

1552
01:33:54,359 --> 01:33:56,680
thank you very much to Mission Joey for allowing us

1553
01:33:56,680 --> 01:34:00,960
to be on your platform. You can find me sometimes

1554
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:04,600
on the Wrestling Soup and Friendos. I did drop a show.

1555
01:34:05,119 --> 01:34:07,960
I actually did one for this for Soup. I don't

1556
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:09,399
know if it was gonna be on Wrestling Super Friendos

1557
01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:11,479
or a super Prime, but I think it got lost

1558
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:13,600
in the sauce at You know, during the time that

1559
01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:16,279
Mish was moving, and I'm sure he's still dealing with

1560
01:34:16,279 --> 01:34:19,359
the aftermath of moving. And I know that since moved

1561
01:34:19,359 --> 01:34:21,000
to Arizona, he's made at least two trips back to

1562
01:34:21,039 --> 01:34:25,439
the Midwest, so he's certainly excused for that. But I

1563
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:27,479
did a show on the Sports Jedi Network, which is

1564
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:30,039
a friend of the Wrestling Soup and Frendos network. They

1565
01:34:30,039 --> 01:34:32,880
share contact with us, and they did send me a

1566
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:35,359
copy of the show and I uploaded it to Wrestling Soup,

1567
01:34:35,399 --> 01:34:38,039
which is me talking about the Janelle Grant, the John

1568
01:34:38,119 --> 01:34:43,039
Moxley a little bit with the cad and Kelly Tate

1569
01:34:43,159 --> 01:34:47,640
and Kelly Suit and then Ryan Emmathsuit sort of like

1570
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:49,640
a body slam breeze, but not a lecture because there

1571
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:52,039
were three other guys that are asking questions and making comments,

1572
01:34:52,039 --> 01:34:54,039
which I think made a lot more interactive and probably

1573
01:34:54,039 --> 01:34:56,479
a lot more interesting. At some point it sounded like

1574
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:59,119
I have a lisp, which I don't, but you can

1575
01:34:59,239 --> 01:35:03,159
argue with me about that. I also do the MLW

1576
01:35:03,239 --> 01:35:06,399
Files with my best friend mister Thomas, godfather of the

1577
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:09,079
boom Aye, Monday nights at six oh five live, or

1578
01:35:09,079 --> 01:35:11,199
you can catch it on any of the platforms where

1579
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Sports Jedi is, and of course my own show is

1580
01:35:14,399 --> 01:35:19,000
Garden of Thought which now you can watch the visual

1581
01:35:19,359 --> 01:35:22,479
on Sports Jedi Network if you like too. Usually it's

1582
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:26,039
Sunday at one and Wednesdays at sixth but you can

1583
01:35:26,079 --> 01:35:28,319
watch it on Sports Jedda anytime if you want to

1584
01:35:28,319 --> 01:35:31,840
listen to it. It's still obviously available on all audio

1585
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:34,640
platforms including the Wrestling Suit Network, and you can watch

1586
01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:37,399
it on my YouTube channel which is at Garden of

1587
01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:39,760
Thought pod. It's just there's no pictures, there's just the

1588
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:42,239
show art, but if you listen on YouTube it's it's

1589
01:35:42,279 --> 01:35:46,239
the same show. So did some cool stuff there, including

1590
01:35:46,279 --> 01:35:49,159
the show with our good friend White Chocolate on Charlie

1591
01:35:49,159 --> 01:35:52,560
and the Chocolate Factory and we went deep, so please

1592
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:57,520
check that out. Follow me on x at Dose Underscore Evil.

1593
01:35:57,800 --> 01:35:59,960
At this point, I want to get to fifteen hundred

1594
01:36:00,119 --> 01:36:02,920
two thousand followers. I'm like fourteen hundred and ninety two.

1595
01:36:03,239 --> 01:36:06,159
I don't normally ask for followers, and of course when

1596
01:36:06,199 --> 01:36:08,159
I did, I was at fourteen hundred and ninety four.

1597
01:36:08,239 --> 01:36:11,800
So when I asked for followers, I lost too. So

1598
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:14,319
I don't know, show me some love too, but not

1599
01:36:14,359 --> 01:36:16,960
as much as you show lou or wrestling super friendos.

1600
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:18,560
But if you show me ten percent of the love

1601
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:21,840
that you show to them, I don't need much. I

1602
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:25,479
really don't. So but yeah, that's where you can find

1603
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:29,000
me and listen. For those of you I know you're

1604
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:31,720
gonna by the time this publishes, you'll have already had

1605
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:34,239
your full of your weekend full of wrestling. I hope

1606
01:36:34,239 --> 01:36:37,039
whatever show or shows you've watched, you enjoyed them all,

1607
01:36:37,079 --> 01:36:38,079
including Forbidden Door.

1608
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:44,239
Speaker 2: So we will not see you. You will hear us

1609
01:36:44,239 --> 01:36:50,720
again this filling when we watch FG and try to

1610
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:53,800
see what's going on, because uh, Jiff and I did

1611
01:36:53,840 --> 01:37:00,920
not look at what's happening next week, so ah, surprise, surprise,

1612
01:37:01,199 --> 01:37:04,680
So enjoy all the wrestling that you're watching and V

1613
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:08,960
bills next week A friend, What have in stee

1614
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:11,520
Speaker 1: Stay with my Friendtmas