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Speaker 5: Jake Flynn, Alandre Tete all here with you.
Speaker 2: So we were talking about, I think it was in
the second segment about L s U having the bye
week and could they change was there enough time? Could
they do some things that they haven't done so far
this season? And you start to wonder because it's you know,
a bye week is a little bit of a misconception
because some of it has to be rest, Like that's
a part of it, you know. So it's not like
maybe you can get like a day or two like
back where it's like, wait, we're going to go back
to like camp style practices, like yeah, maybe, but also coaches,
for the most part, right, you're going to have basically
helmets and shorts on, so you don't have as much
time as as it sounds like you do have because
you do have to factor in the rest part of it.
But we were trying to see like, okay, is that enough,
you know, time to be able to change and do
the things that you want to get done.
Speaker 5: And then y'all started talking.
Speaker 2: About Alabama a little bit when we were kind of
mentioning some of the things we were wrong about so
far in the college football season, and I start to
think about the situation that Alabama showed in the first
game against Florida State. All right, against Florida State, they
only ran for like eighty seven yards. They gave up
two hundred and thirty on the ground. All right, well
we saw them last week. You know, kind of change
it now. The yards for Georgia. We were up on
the ground and the pass defense was incredible for Alabama
and Georgia right now, Gunnerstockton just not having success through
the air, but just even the mentality of watching Alabama
Florida State and watching Alabama and Georgia, it certainly looked different.
I think Georgia was two of eight on third down,
where Florida State had much more success. Florid State was
around forty five percent on third down. Like, you can't
watch the Florida State Alabama game and say that was
related to the same team. That played Georgia, right, So,
and look, Nick Saban's not there anymore, right, because in
the past we'd be like Nick sabanix and that'd be
the answer, you know what I mean? Well, Kylen de
Bor is there now, and Kaylen de Bor had has
made no bones about it. After week one, he challenged
his team, absolutely challenged him.
Speaker 5: Hey, and they had a lot of if you remember,
they had a lot of loafs.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that's what's going on right now
with lsu Becau's actually not the case. But they had
a lot of loast, and they had a lot of
misassignments and some things.
Speaker 5: So he called them out.
Speaker 6: They had two defensive backs during a play shooting three pointers. Yeah,
with an invisible ball, yes, say to even basketball, right,
shooting invisible three pointers during a play.
Speaker 2: You had a safety that gave up on a play
he had he had, he had an angle, he just
stopped running.
Speaker 5: So my point in bringing that up is their mentality changed.
Speaker 2: You can't watch those two games and say that that's
the same team that played in Week one and now
I do. I do think Florida State's better. I think
Florida State had a great game plan. I think Gus
Malsan had a great game plan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, take no credit away from them.
Speaker 6: Right, Like, when you got a team, an Alabama football
team that's playing undisciplined and loafing, you have when you
have national media being able to see count multiple multiple loves,
multiple loves everywhere zooming in. I'm like, I just said,
people shooting fake three pointers with pads on, with the
helmet on on the field.
Speaker 3: Part of the eleven that are out of there.
Speaker 6: You know, two of the eleven folks shooting basketballs.
Speaker 5: So they got they got challenged, They got in the
media too.
Speaker 6: I talent issue, right. Kelen de Borr has proven to
be a really good head coach. Could he be a
good head coach there? Could he discipline a football team? Well,
let me tell you something. If you watch that Alabama
Georgia game, they're ranked number ten right now, they look
like a top five team. I hate to say it,
I'm sorry the Tyle Simpson is playing his face off
right now. And you don't want to judge too harshly
on one game in either direction. You don't want to
judge people judge Alabama really harshly. After that first game,
easy to completely go the opposite way and be two.
You know, give them too many flowers after this game.
But the way they played that football game, how they
won it, the way their quarterback is playing, and just
like you said, the ability to be willing to flip
that switch as a student athlete is the key to
everything you can coach. You can want to, you can
want to, but kay, do you have the ability, the mindset,
the grit, whatever it is. The are you humble enough
to say, Okay, yeah I'm talented, but I'm not playing
good enough? You got that mindset? And they've they've shown
up to date. And again I don't want to like
crown them after like one really good performance, because everybody
can have a good performance, but they looked the part
last week.
Speaker 2: And now they've got a game coming up this weekend
against Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt beat them a year ago in Nashville.
We all remember the scenes. They diego Pavia and had
an epic postgame conversation with Alyssa Lang and they rushed
the field and you know, great scene, great moment for Vanderbilt.
And now Vanderbilt, as we said earlier, they're back and
probably better. Mine's the probably they are they're better than
they were a year ago. Do you give and does
anybody in this room give Vanderbilt a chance to repeat
what they did a year ago?
Speaker 5: Now this one is on the road. I'm sure, I am.
Speaker 2: I am certain that Alabama's players have been told time
and time again, and seeing the videos of Diego Pavio
on the field afterwards and all of that, and that
can go. That can go a little bit, right, It's
not going to be like once the ball s game,
once the ball skate, you kind of forget about the.
Speaker 6: Highlight tape that you showed the DAMA players the night
before the game, right, the team hotel.
Speaker 2: Right, but this is number ten versus number sixteen, just
because the spread says it's eleven and a half, ten
and a half spending on where you look like Vanderbilt
deserves to be in the conversation of this game. Now,
Has Alabama for y'all made enough adjustments? Looked a part
because we got to remember, like Georgia had to get
a little luck on their side to be able to
beat Tennessee, right, and if a kicker makes a very
makeable field goal, they lose that game as well.
Speaker 5: So the question kind of is.
Speaker 2: Because they beat Georgia and because Georgia has been a
standard of college football last five years, Like, are we
allowing that to kind of cloud maybe our view.
Speaker 3: Of this? Maybe?
Speaker 6: I mean it kind of it kind of full circle
of what we talked about last week. Is there any
one dominant team right there's not. There's so much parody
in college football right now. And I know that's an
overused word, I get it, but like it's it's an
evenly match. There's not one team that sticks out head
over head and shoulders above everybody else. So you kind
of have to just say you have to watch these
teams and know, Okay, I know Georgia they might not
be a dominant, dominant force like they have been for
multiple years, but like they're still really damn good. Alabama
they've had their issues, but they're still really damn good too.
So it's kind of an optics test, like you got
to look at like optically, how did Alabama actually look?
Go watch the game? Did they execute their plays? Where
they discipline? Where they sound? Did they get pushed with
the offensive line? Was the quarterback going through his reads
or was it like flukey plays? Like sometimes the quarterback
can have a good game, but a lot of it's
like flukey plays. It was like scrambling, someone popped wide
open down the sideline, like look at me. DJ Lagway
hit a big long touchdown against Elisia. I think he
got called back, but like wide open guy, Like that
doesn't mean he had a great game as a quarterback,
like working in offense. You have to look at the
process on these like when you're judging the team, and
the process for Alabama looked pretty darn good against Georgia.
So that's why I say, like, yeah, I think you
can judge them right now. I mean it's five weeks
into the season, so there's still so much Again, these
these eighteen to twenty three year old kids, a lot
of them first time. I'm like starters, things like that,
they're gonna get better, Like every team, every team is
better in week ten than they were in week one.
Speaker 3: Like that's just facts.
Speaker 6: So you have to look at the process, how they're executed,
how these outcomes of all these games are presenting themselves.
And certainly for me, Alabama and Vanderbilt are both kind
of like looked apart. I think I think I just
looked at I think it's game day this week. Yeah
it is, Yeah, is gonna be there so respect Yeah,
absolutely give Like can you give Vanderbilt like a chance
to win?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh yeah, absolutely yeah, I'd like to see that.
Speaker 2: I look up the one as long as they've got
Diego Pavia back there. I know he might not be
a pro quarterback. I get all of that, but he's
fun as hell to watch in college and he is
one of those guys that when you tell him he can't,
he's going to do everything in his power to make
sure he can. Like that kind of stuff fuels a
guy like that, no doubt. And it doesn't look orthodox.
It doesn't look like you draw it up in a playbook.
Speaker 6: Ten and a half ten and a half Alabama is
ten and a half point favorite.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I said, I just said you said that.
Speaker 8: Oh wow, he said that like five minutes ago.
Speaker 7: Oh well, that definitely that's calling my name.
Speaker 5: Wow. Yeah that it was eleven and a half, So that.
Speaker 7: Is calling my name.
Speaker 3: Are we dumb?
Speaker 5: We do claim to have one brain, sell them.
Speaker 3: I think it's a big brain. So we didn't clarify
the size.
Speaker 5: That's true.
Speaker 9: Like if if Alabama barely won last year, I would
have said, oh, you know, Vandy like coming in like
and I just said how wrong I was about Vandy.
I was hyping them up a little bit earlier Dandy
winning that game.
Speaker 10: Though.
Speaker 8: I hear what you're saying, shot, but I think I
think Alabama.
Speaker 2: Right, And I do hear what you're saying about that,
But me and Jimbo were actually talking about this yesterday.
I hear what you're saying about that. So like in
the pregame, they're gonna talk about that game last year,
They're gonna show the game and they like they're gonna
be ready to fight, like they're gonna be ready anyway,
just like Vandibilt's gonna be ready and Matt, if you
have a different feeling, I promise, Like I'm not trying
to put words in your mouth, but for me, just
my personal experience, A lot of times, all that pre
like pregame stuff and the conversation and trash talk or
whatever the boss kicked and I forget about it all
because I got ninety seven things going on in my
brain about you know this backside corner, is he going
to come and trying to read this guy on this
run play.
Speaker 5: I got to run down there on kickff. I gotta
make sure I stay in my lane.
Speaker 2: So like the anger and the like, maybe you prepare
a little bit, maybe maybe you watch one extra tape.
But Alabama's not gonna get ready for this game just
because Vanderbilt beat him last year as far as like
once the ball's kicked off, at least for me, like
I forgot about all that stuff, and it's like, okay,
now we're in a fight.
Speaker 5: Now I got to just react off what this game
is showing me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6: I think I disagree with it. Just like for the
reasons why we talk about directional school, you preparation, like
you have to like there's something in Nate inside of
you and you can't put your finger on it. It's
just something there for the pre pregame process, for the
pregame process. But then during the game as well, you
have to find like a lot of time there's a
man you factured energy when you're playing somebody.
Speaker 5: That isn't it is a conference game though, I mean it.
Speaker 6: Is a conference game, but it's all okay, look, I
know it's not the classic Vanderbilt team.
Speaker 3: This is.
Speaker 6: Daddy Vanderbilt here, but it's still the same but it's
still the same uniforms. Okay, So like you probably need
some reminders, like, hey, look, this isn't Vanderbilt five years ago.
Speaker 3: These guys are for real.
Speaker 6: I think you need some reminders on that because they've
never reminded us about that ever.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, good for you, because, like I said, like
everybody's gonna be a little bit different, like but for me,
unless maybe it was, like you.
Speaker 6: Tell me you didn't play harder against Florida because you're
jacked up.
Speaker 5: That's what I was just about to say.
Speaker 2: Maybe because their habitual line crossers, maybe that, but there
was nothing. There was no difference between Alabama and Auburn.
There's no difference between Auburn and Georgia. There was no
difference between Tennessee and there.
Speaker 6: Was Alabama and Vanderbilt. You think, I know, I know.
Speaker 2: My point is like all of that, sure, but I'm
not going to base who I who I pick in
this game and who I like in this game based
off Alabama being mad.
Speaker 6: Why do you think Missouri plays everybody close? Because like,
no one really cares about him because they're a good
football team.
Speaker 3: No one like no one, no one gets excited about.
Speaker 5: Because Matt Hardy might be the best running back in
the country.
Speaker 8: I don't know how much might there is behind that.
Speaker 5: And God was playing in Monroe, Louisiana.
Speaker 3: No one ever heard of that game.
Speaker 5: It was great at you it's really good.
Speaker 8: Sixteen hundred yards or something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fake, Nope, it didn't have it.
Speaker 8: Didn't have it made up.
Speaker 2: In the All Metad team too, first team running back.
Don't believe it. Both they played with Las pretty good.
Speaker 8: He's with Missouri.
Speaker 3: Never heard of.
Speaker 5: They didn't go on the road still for seventeen more days.
Speaker 8: That is wild.
Speaker 5: Still hadn't gone on the road yet.
Speaker 8: How did they get that schedule? They had a good
one last year.
Speaker 6: They're starting to like get to the level of Notre
Dame for me. Now they play Alabama, it's just at home.
Speaker 3: Coming up.
Speaker 2: Their first road game is going to be Jorden Hair
against Auburn, which is I don't care how good bad
they are. That place rocks day night, good bad, whatever
like that. That is a undervalue, underappreciated venue. At least
every time I've ever been there, it's been it's been
a great atmosphere. So they I mean, it's a tough
test regards of with Auburn's record.
Speaker 6: Is Auburn credits myself. They were my sleeper pick this year,
my surprise team.
Speaker 2: That's weird. Yeah, mine was Missouri. Who's doing better.
Speaker 3: We'll find out. We've already found out where they're finally
going to game.
Speaker 5: They finally get on a plane.
Speaker 6: Of Auburn is not gonna be excited to play that game, obviously,
because nobody gets excited to play Misouri.
Speaker 2: Living in what's what's Missouri's record like the last two years?
Speaker 3: I just like, I just told you why their records
get They.
Speaker 7: Finished nine and three.
Speaker 2: Last season, Yeah, then ten and then they were ten
with the bowl game wins and ten and three, and
then they were ten and two the year before, or
eleven and two, eleven and two.
Speaker 6: And guess what, Missouri missoo. There's no z's in the
word Missouri, especially not two z's.
Speaker 2: This stuff that triggers you is so funny to me
because you're you're acting like you're joking.
Speaker 5: But I've known you for two decades. That bothers you.
Speaker 9: The missoo doesn't bother me, But I tell you what does?
And I like Eli drink Witz but saying go Tigers
at the end of the interview, is is acceptable saying
m I Z and leaving I hate that.
Speaker 7: I don't like that, he says, m I Z.
Speaker 5: And then you're supposed to finish z Z O U.
Speaker 9: But he's the only one there, so he just says
m I Z and leaves.
Speaker 8: I don't like that. M hmm.
Speaker 6: Kind of like them. You said, m I Z. Reminded
me of the Mickey Mouse Club. Yeah, m I see,
he says m I Z. At the end of his interviews. Cool,
there's no Z. I don't get it. Hey, there's two
in mis zooky make up a new state.
Speaker 11: To show me state, show me how to spell it,
show me seven. I'll show you eight.
Speaker 5: Hey, don't don't be mad that my is that a wrestler?
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I respect that real world are road
rules that he came from, real world?
Speaker 3: Real world?
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah, it's real world.
Speaker 5: Yeah all right?
Speaker 7: Him and uh I think Marcel I think was her name.
She's also a wrestler. They had a reality show.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, a lot of squirrels here in the studio.
Speaker 7: Looking at the lines for this second.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll take a break because doctor Stephen at
the ridge will join us. To break down some injuries
across the sports world. When we come back, it is
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Speaker 5: And uh, I just saw the text that you sent. Yeah,
you're you're right.
Speaker 2: You're probably gonna ask you about Tyreek Hill's injury and
the kneecap situation there. And it's one of those videos,
doc h you watch once and that's enough once.
Speaker 5: It's like, Okay, I don't want to see.
Speaker 2: That ever again. It just looked like, gosh, whatever was
in there. Whatever was in his knee that was structurally
sound is no longer the case. It's is that one
of those everything situations where it's like, Okay, this is gonna.
Speaker 5: Be a lot.
Speaker 12: Yeah, these are these are bad injuries.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 13: Fortunately not when we see a whole lot of you know,
a knee dislocation. A lot of times people come in
and say, oh, I dislocated my knee before Most of
the time they're talking about the kneecap. Kneecap dislocates, it's
still significant injury, but yeah, talk about a whole other
animal when the entire knee, so the femur and tibia
literally are no longer lined up appropriately, and you know
that's gonna take way more than one ligament. You know,
you have a lot of different ligaments that that support
the knee. You have the muscle structures around at the meniscus,
lots of things going on. To dislocate, you're usually gonna
have to have multiple ligaments maybe meniscus injury, and then
with that you worry about the other structures around the knee.
That's why these are so dangerous. You have you know,
you have your popular do arredy, which is an already
right behind the knee, and then you have the nerve
structures around the knee. And it's bad enough if you
injure multiple ligaments, those are those are bad injuries. But
you know, this can be literally an injury that you
can lose a limb if you if you sever that
populiti artery, uh, you know, and that can be dire
emergency or perm nerve damage things like that moving forward.
Speaker 6: So it's one of those when you see it, like
I had two players. When I saw it, I was like,
oh my god. Like I had two players that came
to mind. One was like early two thousands, Willis McGahee
the injury to his knee like that. And then latimoreatmore
from Carolina U not too long ago. It looked like
the same with a leg just I mean unfortunately just snaps.
Speaker 5: I mean yeah, And you see.
Speaker 2: With Latimore, he never he never came back, never really
got h never ever the same player.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think he came back. I drafted by San
fran but ended up doing his injury settlements.
Speaker 12: You never really played.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So I'm watching that game and I'm watching them get injured.
I'm watching all the players there. I see I see
the the one time you see the like the play over,
you don't want to see it again, And then you
watch them and I want to know what happens internally.
I know there's adrenaline. I know there's all sorts of
hormones pumping in the body after an injury. There's protections
that your body gives to you naturally. How does a
guy when that happens. How is a guy two minutes
later smiling, clapping? How is he able to handle that
type of pain? Because I know it has to be
Does that pain not set in for twenty thirty minutes?
Speaker 3: Like what happens in those situations?
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean I think you get the nail on
the head a lot of times. Obviously we see a
lot of adrenaline. These guys in the moment he the moment,
maybe don't feel it. They're already kind jacked out, they're
playing a game. Their adrenalin levels are high. Sometimes it
just takes a while, you know, definitely one of those things.
You know, definitely gonna feel it later. But man, yeah,
in that scenario.
Speaker 6: What do you do like for pain management? So I
know it's got to be excruciating, Like once the adrenaline
sets like wears off pain management wise, is it? It's
probably about making them comfortable until they get to the hospital.
Speaker 12: Right, Yeah, and that satting, you're gonna make them comfortable.
Speaker 13: You know, we're already activating in ems, so you're having
egency responders there. Once they're on the ambulance, they're going
to give them something almost inevitably something you know, maybe
a pain medication, maybe something for anxiety, some kind of anxialytic,
depending on where they are in that spectrum. You know,
you know, this is somebody who's going to be going
to surgery probably in the very near future, so you're
probably already starting that process and that type of an injury.
Speaker 2: All right, So a couple of injuries I want to
ask you about with the with the Saints and really
so you've got a couple of tight ends, Foster and
Tasom coming back from ACLS and so they open that
twenty one day window for them to go back to
practice with ACLS, and there's been a ton of advancement.
You and I have talked about that so many times before,
but you got twenty one days. You put them out there, Like,
what are you maybe looking for in that three week
window to make sure that are the neatest stable, they're
going to be good.
Speaker 5: They feel confident also in it as well.
Speaker 12: Yeah, a lot of it is their confidence.
Speaker 13: And you know, if they're at this stage of the game,
we've really already done a lot of that, you know,
we we've put them out there on a field, maybe
not with the team. So I think a lot of
times when you hit this window, you kind of know
what what you're gonna get every now and then you're
surprised they get out there and maybe they think they're ready.
Speaker 12: You get a little heavier load on them. Yeah, something happens.
Speaker 5: Maybe the niche I said, is it swelling? Is that
kind of how you swell? Swelling is a big part
of it.
Speaker 12: If they have any swelling, obviously that raises a little concern.
Speaker 10: Now.
Speaker 13: Now, sometimes guys for extended periods, what will swell little
bit here and there and they'll still play.
Speaker 12: We just you know, we'll drain the new year, do
we have to?
Speaker 5: And probably the.
Speaker 2: Old Turkey based are out, Oh yeah, had that many
of times.
Speaker 13: It can be rough, but but but but yeah, it's
it's kind of a combination and I think we probably
know these guys. Barring an unforeseen setback, if you're putting
them in that, hey, the next twenty one days, we
kind of already done everything with them, just just maybe
getting them worked in and making sure they're up to
speed with the team.
Speaker 2: How much the acl that we're talking about the confidence
is that the injury maybe more than any injury where
it's like it's got to be a mental confidence thing.
You have to know that it structurally sound and you
can go out there.
Speaker 13: I think so in part because it is one that
is so common, at least in sports, we see enough
of it. You know, there's probably other injuries that that
you have a similar mindset, but for me, that's the
one we see it the most. Is because it's common
injury that's also a serious injury.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So we talk about like knees, knees swelling with
sports fans. Do you hear that all the time? Oh,
his knee is swollen. You gotta get a knee drain.
And I think it's like, to me, it's something that
it's easy to talk about, but you never really like
take a deep dive on like what it actually means. So,
like when it knee swells and I've seen I've seen
like syringes that big, that thing like I can't set
a turkey based or taking like that much fluid. So
when it knee swells, what is the body reacting to
and what is like what is what is that fluid
that's swelling?
Speaker 5: What is it?
Speaker 6: What's the body's reaction? Why is it creating that? And
how is it creating it?
Speaker 12: So it's usually an inflammatory response.
Speaker 13: You know, you have the synovium which is the lining
of the joints, and you get basically what we call
synovial fluid. So when there's inflammation, there's there's increase in
some of the osmotic property, so you're just pulling more
fluid in so it's more dense area because of the inflammation.
Most of the times it's telling us there's something going on,
you know, need just typically just doesn't swell. So so
it's usually gonna be somebody who's had an injury, whether
it's a maybe a chronic wear and tear, maybe they've
got a little cartilage defect, Maybe it's not necessarimiz torn
a cl but definitely in those scenarios you've had them.
Inniscous injury and a ligam an injury, you've got some
irritation to the cartilage, that cartlage gets inflamed, and it's
just sort of the body's response. It's into overreactive, so
it's just trying to protect something that's that's that's the
idea that we have. You know, inflammation is not always bad.
You know, we talk about inflammation is such a bad thing,
but that's how your body heals, right, an inflammatory reaction
that triggers this, but sometimes it just gets carried.
Speaker 6: Away and not to get like gross or anything, but
like that it's like yellow, right, like the oh yeah,
like what typically typically it's gonna be yellow.
Speaker 13: So it's really it's almost very similar your your blood plasma.
It's kind of a very similar structure. There's a little
bit of protein in, there's other things, and that's why
it gets that yellowish color to it. You know, if
we see blood, sometimes it's a bloody and especially more
of an acute injury. So like right after somebody tears
the a c L or has it, you know, some
of a bone contusion, maybe you're gonna see some blood
and the joint so more of a hemarthrosis. You know
that that's something we don't usually like to see not
always bad, but but typically it is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, all right.
Speaker 2: So with a bye week situation, obviously, at any point
in the season, but certainly after you've played a handful
of games, there's gonna be some conversations, all right, hey,
this week as probably this needs to be the plan,
Like how far maybe ahead of time do you have
kind of those conversations with your team and with everybody,
kind of getting a plan together for is some extended
time off because you just don't ever have that.
Speaker 13: Yeah, from the medical side, you know, the honest answers.
We started the discussion for our bye week before the
season started. You know, we had guys that were coming
into camp and we're like, hey, this is a guy
that in bye week, we may have to watch his
reps sometimes. You know, we've talked on here about different
treatments with things like stem cells and things like that.
Speaker 12: We've talked about different you.
Speaker 13: Know, if a guy maybe is gonna need a surgery,
but it's something that we can put off.
Speaker 12: There's a lot of things you might do in a
bye week.
Speaker 13: Obviously you're hoping not to go to that far extreme,
but we look at the bye week as a chance
you know, first and foremost just to rest. You know,
we we you know, unfortunately, are kind of banging do
at this point in the year. Like most teams. We
had a couple of guys get banged up this past week.
So so the bye we came at a good time
for us, a chance just to kind of get some
guys healthy. And it's a combination of discussion with the
athletic training staff, with all the doctors. You know, we'll
sit down, we do a clinic every Sunday after the games,
and right and really we started having these discussions. I
staid a few weeks ago, like, hey, this is a
guy the bye, we might do this and that list unfortunate,
it's longer and longer each make. This is a guy,
add this guy, add this guy, and a lot of
it is going to be a combination of okay, let's
rest him.
Speaker 12: Maybe this is a guy this week that we're not
going to have practice.
Speaker 13: If it's somebody that we really need to get some rest,
we might do some of those other treatments if it's
something we think they would benefit from, you know, obviously,
trying to kind of maintain win is the right time
and all that.
Speaker 12: So there's a lot that goes into it.
Speaker 6: There was some discussion after this past Sunday Lak Neighbors
tears up his knee torn acl Have you ever in
your profession seen a correlation between knee injuries and artificial turf?
Speaker 3: Is that a is that?
Speaker 6: Do you think that's a real conversation?
Speaker 2: All artificial turf has created the same either, right, Yeah.
Speaker 12: It's it's it's both both. Yes, there is a correlation.
Speaker 13: You know, there have been a lot of studies that
have shown that there are definitely a higher instant of
injuries on the turf. And then at Jake's point there
there's you know, turf's not the same and part of
his maintenance. You know, you're gonna have some some people
that do a better job of maintaining their turf. There
are requirements you know that are now out there for
most big leagues, you know, in the NFL and such.
But even then, you know there's gonna be some variability.
How hard are the turf? How you know if it's
a harder turf's crazy. There's some that are soft and pouting.
There's some that are rock hearts, like, why is this
not the same? It's a national Football League.
Speaker 12: I remember, well, I remember our last game we played.
Speaker 13: We played the last game on the turf up up
at Oxford at All Miss One before they put it
out and put grass and and man, it was rough.
And I'm not calling them out on it. It was
it was the that turf last day. Yeah that I
mean it felt like cement.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 12: And and but now the turf day is way better
than it was.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 13: I can remember when I was at Florida State, we
played in the Supernome.
Speaker 12: It was the astro turf.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 13: I mean I never had a new year back problem
prior to that. For one week of pricing there, I
don't remember my back or k he's ever hurting as much.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 12: And I was, you know, nineteen years old, super healthy.
Speaker 6: So did they ever put like that, like that white
thin tape they'd put right there for the ass I'm
supposed to like protect your arm from.
Speaker 5: All the burn. Yeah.
Speaker 13: So so there there's but you know, if you hit
your head in a harder surface, it's worse. If it's
not gonna be forgiving for a knee or you know,
the Achilles injuries and all these things. We think there's
definitely a higher instance there's pretty good deb data behind it.
The new turf is better, the softer turf is better.
Speaker 6: But so it's a real conversation though it's really the
NFL should and leagues should at least entertain and talk
about absolutely.
Speaker 12: Yeah, maybe you've had those conferences look at.
Speaker 2: And I understand in some college places, I do having
turf because of the weather because you don't have the
budget to be able to keep the field in the
condition that it needs to if it.
Speaker 5: Was real grass.
Speaker 2: I get all of that, but again, like I'll go
back to it, the National Football League should be able
to have every single field look like the best field
you've ever seen before, and you could pay, well, there's
two teams to play there, Okay, build a new stadium
then for one of the other teams, or just have
the best maintenance crew that you possibly can have out there.
Because again, like when you're making billions upon billions upon
billions of dollars, you're by far the most successful, you know,
sports entity that's out there, Like you're not going to
have that excuse, Like you got to find a way
to have it. And I don't know, like you're like
which one that you played on that was really really bad,
like even like some of the natural grasses. We talked
about Arizona and you remember the festival that turst awful.
Speaker 5: It's grass. It's it's terrible.
Speaker 2: It's mush and they don't it doesn't rain in the desert,
and why why is this so mushy? So like that's
that's a real issue that could be fixed by putting
resources and dollars into the playing surface for the players.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I know, and I I agree with one hundred
percent with this. I'd love to see everybody be able
to do grass. And but I always understand there are places, well, look,
we live in a swamp. Ye if everybody here played
on grass, there be there'd be weeks you couldn't play.
I remember when my son was young, there were there
were how many baseball pras got to miss when were
passing out in central because the fuel we practiced was
it wasn't a pit. I mean, so, so I get it,
but I think that they're they got to do better.
Speaker 5: YEA, to your point, I give it.
Speaker 2: At those levels like high school and even some colleges,
I get that because you don't have the resources to
keep up with it. But like that's always been My
argument is if if this is going to be the
best of the best, which it's it's supposed to be,
and you look at the NBA and MLB and MLS
and all all these leagues, they could combine their money
and it doesn't touch what the NFL makes.
Speaker 5: Just have a good playing surface for your players.
Speaker 13: Iigre one hundred scent and even to your point, not
just real surface, but but again maintain maintaining that because again,
like I said, Arizona and there's you know, I can
think back to some others you know that just it
needs to be a good surface and it shouldn't be
that hard.
Speaker 3: Doc.
Speaker 6: I'm I'm a former quarterback. I don't think I don't
feel like I've been thrown it with a zip I
usually do. I think I got some sort of torso situation.
How you treating me?
Speaker 13: The torso injuries are tough, obviously, you know, it's it's
such a you know, the thing you got to remember
is it is anything really in here.
Speaker 12: It's it's engaged with everything we do.
Speaker 13: So if we're talking about a you know, chess adam
in any of those things that you callfee snees, you
breathe a twist you turn and then yeah, if somebody's
gotta throw a ball, Uh, that is something that can
ever be difficult.
Speaker 12: You know, we do our best medicines.
Speaker 13: You know, you do therapy, you do some of the
biologic conjections we've talked about. You try all that stuff
to try and help somebody in that situation. But at
the end of the day, it's it's got his limitations.
Speaker 12: It's got limitations.
Speaker 3: All right, Bye week.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 2: Doctor Steven Natheriz joins us every single Wednesday here on
the show. We always appreciate the time dot he We're
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Speaker 5: I'll be great.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll take a break more OTV when we
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listening to Off the Bench.
Speaker 5: Flynn, Can you tell me what actor sings this song?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's I think you'd call him an actor,
right tyree, here you go.
Speaker 7: I knew him as an actor before I knew him
as a singer.
Speaker 2: Really Okay, So this was before like Fast and Furious
and all.
Speaker 6: This is all I would not I would not have
got the singer of the song if he didn't ask
it that way.
Speaker 2: When you get like, but you got it, it's a
big deal, all right.
Speaker 6: So what other movies is tyreeon like old? Is he
in a Transformer movie? Is he one of the trends?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's in the first trend, the first one I know.
Speaker 8: To the movie called Waste Deep. He was actually the
star of.
Speaker 5: Actually movie.
Speaker 7: Actually, baby boy.
Speaker 5: Oh baby, Oh my god, baby boys. How's it going.
That's a good movie. It was a good movie. I
was thinking he was in three different Transformer movies.
Speaker 2: Uh, or Brothers your four brothers brother good one.
Speaker 7: You can't be a Transformer and Fast and Furious movies,
multiple of them. You can't do it.
Speaker 2: Look you know something about me elandra I love the
Fast and Furious movie.
Speaker 8: He does Jason a big, fast guy.
Speaker 2: And I know, listen, I know what they are and
I know they're not air quotes.
Speaker 3: Good.
Speaker 7: I stopped watching after the third one.
Speaker 5: I'm like eleven in or how many there is? Tenn
you just love family exactly. That's me with Jason State
the movies same way.
Speaker 8: State them is my favorite actor, every movie exact same.
But I love them.
Speaker 3: I know what I'm getting. Beepers great, love it.
Speaker 8: Beeky they're coming out with a beakeeper.
Speaker 3: They are they keep making them.
Speaker 8: I just I just watched The working Man, like.
Speaker 3: The humble Man trying to take care of bees. To
make honey. You don't have to kill his neighbor turn
the house down.
Speaker 2: It's like, I know what I'm getting into, and I
love it. I'm gonna keep coming back from more Jason
Jason movies.
Speaker 3: What is mm hmm shouts then diesel? Keep driving?
Speaker 8: Just keep driving or flying or whatever you're doing in
the next.
Speaker 3: One, jumping off jumping off planes with tanks. I don't
know space.
Speaker 5: Did Tyres and Ludacris take a car into space? Last one?
Speaker 7: Maybe that's just ridiculous.
Speaker 5: Might have happened the tires in a spaceship car? Yeah
it was.
Speaker 3: It was a normal car.
Speaker 8: It just doubled as a spaceship.
Speaker 3: No, obviously, can we get I need to see this.
Did they did, ludic Ris? That was a wild comedy
you just made.
Speaker 2: Did Tyres and Ludicris drive a car in space?
Speaker 5: Obviously did in a movie that I paid to go see.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they did.
Speaker 2: I do love how smooth Matt was with that last question. Yeah, hey,
help the poorer quarterback. Yeah, throwing with as much zip
as I'm one.
Speaker 7: Uh hey, what does that mean?
Speaker 5: What does that mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, theoretically erectly, Hey, you're not gonna shut me down?
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 2: Look, I appreciate the fact that you did it. You
found a way because like, technically can't. But you did
well done.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 8: Picture of the inside of the home.
Speaker 5: They got the yes?
Speaker 3: What are they using the yes?
Speaker 5: You get into space?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 7: My god?
Speaker 5: See the duct tape?
Speaker 6: They use that one bottle of nause to get the
space or they're trying to go faster in space.
Speaker 8: Powers the thrusters probably powers this one.
Speaker 3: That is beautiful. What were they doing up there?
Speaker 7: Gosh, it gets worse.
Speaker 2: She said, your back to the future car.
Speaker 6: Can you imagine Tyres and Luda reading the script for
the first time. We're gonna we're gonna do.
Speaker 8: What They were like.
Speaker 9: Wait, they were like, hey, wait a minute, then there's
a there's something wrong with the script.
Speaker 8: We're clearly not doing it this Yeah, clearly.
Speaker 2: Said Actually, here's here's what we're paying you to do
the tenth installment.
Speaker 5: Oh, we'll do it.
Speaker 3: Are they going to space to drill hold an asteroid?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: That I mean, think about that, think about it. I
mean we all love that movie.
Speaker 5: Look at that.
Speaker 6: Oh it's a spaceship. We told you it is a joke,
all right. For those of you listen on radio. This
is a car that is in space and it's got
like the boosters that it's it just ejected, ejected the
boosters and it's like not even in like that lower
space that like Bezos was going to for a million,
this is out Earth behind him.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that is like an old car too.
Speaker 5: Yeah. They were a bit different back then.
Speaker 3: That's right. That's what.
Speaker 10: Us.
Speaker 3: Don't make them like they used to.
Speaker 2: Daniel Basham asked a great question. Can you drift in space?
Speaker 7: Did they?
Speaker 3: I don't know space?
Speaker 2: I mean they have a thing, Tokyo. This is one
of them movies.
Speaker 3: Now I'm still confused at what the nause is for.
Speaker 7: To get up there.
Speaker 3: They got these boosters.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but we've got to get back somehow, right.
Speaker 6: They have to be Are they racing somebody?
Speaker 3: We're gonna literally we're going to race around the world.
Speaker 5: I don't remember why they're in space.
Speaker 3: Racing around the world. They don't know.
Speaker 8: Makes you feel better?
Speaker 2: They don't know either, Alan, You just let me watch
my fast furious trash.
Speaker 6: Okay, he's Tarantino said Stacker, you ever.
Speaker 9: Want to space, Bud, I mean they did everything else
so they could possibly do on Earth.
Speaker 3: They're like, true, true, take this bad boy to space.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, guys, it's all about
family though, all about family.
Speaker 5: That's where we started this.
Speaker 2: All right, we will step away, wrap up our number
two when we come back here on OTV.
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