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between the lines, get into some Kalonizatacke commentary. Camp Koalani

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Speaker 1: Twenty six and beyond.

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nine nine. All right, let's get into it. Kalinashatake address

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the media. Let's see what he has to say about

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his squad, his group. Uh, he's got a good crew

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this year, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: Halfway through camp. How are you feeling about this team, Kalini.

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Speaker 4: I feel really good about the team.

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Speaker 5: Obviously you got a long ways to go still, but uh,

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it's nice to have quarterbacks that kind of know we're

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doing already and being able to see Bear just his

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command of the offense is really nice, and so I'm

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I mean, give us a lot more confidence going into

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the season, but also having Chase and Borghei there and

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then seeing what init can do.

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Speaker 4: So it's a good group.

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Speaker 5: Then you compliment that with a veteran group with all

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linemen with you know, with the guys that are there

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with Bruce especially snapping the ball, so that our and

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our you know, our receivers are doing a great job

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and Lj's and their coaching. So I think this is

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going to be really good for the offense. With defense,

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Speaker 4: I like the way it's going right now, but.

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Speaker 1: Really happy.

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Speaker 3: Seems to not have much criticism. Look, I've talked to

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a lot of people. It does feel as I brought

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up Ronald, it feels like the twenty twenty two squad.

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Speaker 1: They had dudes, they had guy guys.

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Speaker 3: Like I remember going to practice and bring about like dude,

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we're gonna win another We're gonna have a double digit

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a double digit win season. And that

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team fell short. Let's be honest.

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Speaker 3: They disappointed, They struggled, They lost some close games. They

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lost the Notre Dame by eight in Vegas. They got

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blown out by Oregon that was a good organ team.

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They lost by seven to Arkansas at home. That shouldn't

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have been a loss. And then they went on the

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road and lost the Liberty.

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Speaker 4: That was like Liberty, yeah.

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Speaker 6: And they crazy because they started fourteen zero. You thought

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they were gonna just boat steam them.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy, bro. And then ECU you lost that home

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very just morning. Finally they rided the ship.

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Speaker 3: You state you thoughts at in Stanford to finish the season,

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and then they beat SMU. They finished strong. I don't

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want another Pride cycle season to occur. We're coming off

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two consecutive double digit win seasons with so much talent,

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NFL talent, I see how much depth they have, and

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buying into the hype that hey, we can be we

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can we can just show up and win another ten

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games this season, Ronnie.

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Speaker 6: Ben, can we not have what happened in the twenty

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twenty two season. You and I were next to each other.

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I'll recall your events. You and I were sitting and

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the field goal kicker for East Carolina had never hit

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a field goal above thirty five yards and you're laughing,

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and I was like, Benny has hit It is like

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he's going to hit it.

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Speaker 1: I was like, there's no way.

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Speaker 6: He's like, Ronnie, they're about to lose the game. And

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he hits and that put my handle of his I

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was like, did that just happen? And it was a

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duck too. It was like so short barely goes over

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and Pride cycle was big, big Ben, very talented team,

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a lot of guys that you know are still playing

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in the NFL or did get drafted, right. That was

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a you just you hope with this team and the

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defensive returners, and there's a lot of guys that are going

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to play at the next level than they are. It's

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just go look at the roster offensively and defensively. You

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don't want that type of You can't have the Colorado

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State kicker who hasn't hit a fifty yard field goal,

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walk it off on you, you know up there. You

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can't let that happen.

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Speaker 1: So I'm with you.

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Speaker 6: I hope they stay humbling, hungry, and that's the challenge,

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you know, and Brady seven on Monday, how do you

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keep this group because it's not the same and you know,

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Speaker 1: A big part of it.

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bringing in a guy like Kadu Lujave who Kilani says

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he has to slow down. But if you get pride Bride,

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if you get you know, entitlement in that locker room,

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and it starts to you know, disperse between people like

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a tree or roote. If it grows, then yeah, you

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could be looking at an eight and five season again,

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which we thought it would be. You know, we thought

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they could potentially, you know, have a chance to you know,

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be an independent team with maybe one loss and maybe

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have a chance back then the college football playoffs. But

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we'll see, we'll see what happens. But I don't think

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that Kilanie will let that happen. I think he had

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to go through that twenty twenty two bin to have

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a better twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Let's get back to Kilanie. See what he's got cooking.

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Speaker 1: How much deeper is Bear getting with this offense?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean well, I mean that's we're getting nervous

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because the call sheets are really long, you know, and

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the guys are we're putting a lot more in. But

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it's a good film us to put in, and and

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they're going pretty fast with the amount of install that

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we're getting from offense and defenses. So it's it's more

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than what we've done in the past. But I think

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in a lot of ways it's gonna be better for

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us in the long run because they'll have the film

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and they'll be able to practice all that stuff from

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off of the film in the p rps and things

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like that when the when the players are by themselves,

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Speaker 1: Break they go. That's Kilani.

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Speaker 3: Allowing Bear to uh, you know, have a true offseason

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is imperative, right, he can actually improve his game. He

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was just like thrust into the limelight right off the

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bat and had to earn it and won it. He

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won the job and then led by you to a

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twelve winth season and was able to avoid injury as

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well for the most part. So now it's time to

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get bigger, faster, stronger, more efficient, really improve that arm

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strength and go even deeper into the offense. Outside of

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Brucie though, Colan, which other linemen have stood out to

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you during springball?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Gentry has done a good job there, and then

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obviously you know Pockey's done a great job at the

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tackle position, you know, and then we have a bunch

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of guys I think could fit in what we're trying

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to do. I think TJ can get anywhere from eight

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to ten guys rotating for me to but you know,

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with Kyle playing there and Sunny's not back yet. But

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and then you have a bunch of guys that have

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played a lot of reps and and guys that we

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know will be in the mix. So I'll see what's

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doing some good things too. So there's there's a lot

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of great The guys that were brought in the portal

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have done a great job providing competition and depth.

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Speaker 1: So highlighting a number of guys there.

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Speaker 3: Andrew Janfrey looking really good as you're starting white tackle,

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Pocky Fenw the Washington Transfer. Uh, like I said, I got,

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I got ridiculed on Twitter because I tweeted a picture

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of Pockey Fenale's tricep, and a lot of Utah fans,

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even b Yu Faan said that I was I was weird,

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tricep like you did? I said, look, guys, I've never

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seen I rarely see, okay, a offensive lineman built like

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Pockey Fenw, super low body fat percentage, twitchy, violent, ripped.

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Speaker 3: You see offensive lineman traditionally, and you know there's there's

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Speaker 1: Slop to him.

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Speaker 3: I'll be on a little slop to him, okay. And

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Pockey is just built different. Uh, you know, watching his

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film evaluating you know what I was able to do

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a team on on the TV copy from Washington and

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be a starting left tackle. I called it, I predicted it,

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and he is. He's a different beast. He's a different dude.

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Speaker 1: Now that dude's a dog. He's a dude.

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Speaker 3: So he went from Andrew Gentry to Pockey and I

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expect big things from Pockey. Also mentioned Kyle there and

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another guy he mentioned was cooc Wa. We got we

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kind of caught up in passing with cosc Way yesterday, Ronnie,

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and he's a young buck man.

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Speaker 1: He remembered.

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Speaker 3: Coc was was committed to Stamford. Caleeppi, his brother is

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twin brother was committed to b YU. During that process

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of coming out on an official visit and getting to

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know BYU a little bit soon a little bit better

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and maybe with some question marks surrounding Stanford, csc I

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ended up committing to BYU And now he's looking to

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rotate between right or left tackle. I really like see

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what and tremendously talented. Hopefully he gets some reps this

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season and can really improve his capabilities as a tackle

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as a rotational tackle for the Coops in twenty twenty six.

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That was great, great question from Ryan on that one.

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Ronnie getting a few nuggets from Killannie.

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Speaker 6: Then we're halfway through you can't ask Klannie the hard

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heading ones. And I was just, you know, you want

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to ask Colanie an actual good question. I was sitting

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there thinking of, like, well, you know, he mentioned Bruce.

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Obviously he gave that of his own free will and choice.

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when the coach says something add on to it, It's like,

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you mentioned Bruce. Outside of Bruce, who else would you

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Speaker 1: Room boom.

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Speaker 6: There's another question that we'll get to that. I also

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asked about, you know, special teams, you know, and he

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I've I asked dumb questions a lot more often than

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it's normally a good answer.

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What stood out? What has stood out about the receivers

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like Jojo and Cody and others.

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it's just being able to see his speed and honestly,

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it's just verifying comfortable and getting that connection. Kind of

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had to work it in within the season, you know,

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and so now you can tell that they've spent a lot,

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a lot more time together, and so uh it's good

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to get those guys working well with a quarterback. And

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so I thought Bear had a couple of really good

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plays today that ended up being big time plays for us.

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and the running backs, and so uh, it's it's it's

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been really nice seeing seeing Bear, you know, knowing the

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offense now and kind of seeing that we can push

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his push him to the limits of his learning ability, pushing.

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Speaker 1: To the limits.

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Speaker 4: But I have been sorry?

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Speaker 6: I thought my Michael's on as I started talking. If

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to follow social media, and obviously there are local beat

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writers reporters down there. Multiple reported Rob Wright is uh

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is practicing. He is warming up right now with Cannard,

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David Junia and AJ Devonsis. So Rob Wright is gonna

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if you missed it. So Rob Wright gonna be a

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full goal with smiles, with canards. So he looks like

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he's in good spirits.

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Speaker 1: Man, let's go. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The injury report came out just a little bit a

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go and obviously brought to cost Laowski's out, kJ out,

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n Pickens, Richie Sunders, Dassin Baker's, Avin Staton.

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Speaker 1: All the guys are out, but not Rob Wright.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna be balling out, gonna be playing for the

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coops tonight and you definitely need him. Uh, you definitely

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and it's a big game for the BAYU Cougar basketball team.

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Hopefully they come out victorious. You're gonna need Rob Wright's

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and and by the way, West Virginia doesn't have any.

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Speaker 1: Injuries, so they're full go. Maybe they are full go.

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A couple of last things here. You said LJ was

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coaching that running back room. Do you expect him to

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suit up at all this spring?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 4: Yah, I mean he's doing a lot of the running

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that we do.

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Speaker 5: I mean a lot of them, the non speaking speaking

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of which I was so so LJ is a very

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popular guy on the team and obviously with the fans.

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But no, he's he's doing a lot of I mean

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he's running full speed and all that stuff. So he's

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doing a lot of the stuff that doesn't require you

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know him, other than the individual stuff. I think it's

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it's stuff that he's really good at though. But I

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mean he's faster now than he ever has been, which

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is really good any and he's still pretty big.

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Speaker 4: So I like the way that he's working.

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Speaker 1: Working at l J. I think it doesn't need a

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practice practice.

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Speaker 3: Talk about practice, nah, man, good a game, not a game,

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not a practice.

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Speaker 1: That's the a I love.

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Speaker 3: How has it been having all the returners back on

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the defense side of the ball.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we have a good amount of veterans, the guys

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that have played a lot of snaps coming back and defensively,

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there's a bunch of guys that can do that. So

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you know, it's it sucks to lose like great players

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like Jack and others that have been there. But man,

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I think I think these guys are stepping up and

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then they're making big time plays and we're having some

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great competition. So it's it's kind of because of going

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against each other, I can't really be positive about one

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side more than the other, but I could say the

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ones are doing really good job.

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Speaker 4: And that's on both sides.

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Speaker 5: And I think the two's are a little bit further

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on the defense, but further along, but that's just because

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it's a little bit easier installed.

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Speaker 4: In the offense. But this this is a a great group.

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Speaker 5: Having so many guys that are that I have that

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experience is great. But that means we just need to

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get the younger guys that might be in the mix,

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and most of them are one play away from being

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in the mix and being in the rotation. So getting

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them up up to you know, up to what we

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need we think they can be, and that that helps

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when these i mean, the majority of these freshmen should

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be in high school still, so it's kind of nice

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that they're able to get some extra time with us

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and also work early on getting their degree. So this

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is I think everybody benefits, other than I think they

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can still go.

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Speaker 4: Back to prom and stuff like that if they want to.

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Speaker 5: But you know, this is a but it's it's been

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really good having the majority, I mean, all our freshmen

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that are coming in. There's those that are going on missions,

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but then there's every one of them are mid year

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except for one joins us in June.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's a good benefit, no doubt about it.

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I love it. You talk about unless you have a lady, Yeah,

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but you ain't got no lady.

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Speaker 6: Look, I'm just trying to tell you from you know,

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the right side of it, you know, find your you know,

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she wants you to make sure you know she's a

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good person. Obviously she's you know, studies the books. But

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once you get in college, yeah, you don't think about

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high school no more.

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Speaker 1: Ben, Really I thought some of these guys like to

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go back to the prom.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, I think some of them if they have

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a you know, if they have a girlfriend and have

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a relationship with someone, I think they do. But you're

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a single brother. You get to college, you're not think

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about high school.

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Speaker 1: You're hunting. You're only proud you hunt on the field.

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Speaker 4: That's what you're doing.

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Speaker 6: You're trying to get playing time.

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Speaker 1: But you know you let you a your beautiful daughter of.

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Speaker 6: God might catch your eye to as you walking past

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out of.

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Speaker 1: The sab No doubt about it. Offensive Ly, Coloatee.

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Speaker 3: Who's emerging as who are emerging as leaders outside of LJ.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's all the guys that you expect, I think

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the old Lion. And then you know you have guys

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like Joso that's been around for a long time, and

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you even seen like like Tiger, and and you know,

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you have a bunch of guys that have played Reggie.

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The guys have been here and Cody Hagen so like,

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and the then the tight ends have been here too.

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So even though we have Roger and Walker are new.

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Those other guys Keen and Noa, those guys have played

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a lot of reps here. So there's a bunch of

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guys that are just I can't really say it's just

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like one or two leaders. That these guys have all

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been leaders, whether it's in high school or on their

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missions and things like that.

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Speaker 4: And the key part of the.

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Speaker 5: Leadership is you have guys that are willing to follow

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and guys that are willing to do what's right.

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Speaker 3: Gott to follow and do what's right, says Kalate Sittak.

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Lots of names there that he put out as far

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as leaders in the individuals that are emerging as leaders,

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I gotta highlight those guys. We're gonna have a lot

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of captains this year, that's what I figured. A lot

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of captains, a lot of juniors, a lot of seniors,

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a lot of captains, and a lot of playmakers that

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are in the youth movement as well. How confident are

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you right now in the return of Justin Kirkland, formerly

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Oklahoma State defensive tackle.

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Speaker 1: Got to play some last year but was red shirted.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we're really thankful that we red shirted him, and

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I think that was kind of if you remember last year,

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we were kind of struggling with the interior defense, getting

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guys bigger and getting some stops and just kind of

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having a big, good presence. It's it's good to have

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a presence that's over three hundred and thirty pounds, that

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kind of it is hard to move. And so I

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think we did the right thing by by, you know,

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waiting for him to play for us. Later he was

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able to get some valuable reps and even in the

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championship game and then also in the bowl game. So

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I think we got the most out of him in

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that red shirt year. We just it's gonna I think

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it's gonna pay off huge for him and also for Keanu.

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So we've had to use Keanut a lot into the

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interior side without having justin there. So now Keanu can

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kind of be a little bit more on the outside

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and probably make more place for.

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Speaker 3: Us justin Kirklinn big body eats up those blocks. Hopefully

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he's healthy one hundred percent this season so he can

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spell some of these defensive I mean, you shoot Kanu

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adjusting in that in that defensive ron. Uh, that's uh,

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that's some that's some gird that's some that's some thickness

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in the middle there. Outside of Justin, who else has

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stood out along the defensive interior?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Villie on me.

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Speaker 5: Pole has a great player for us, and body's going

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to be one two And Schoonover has made a lot

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of play.

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Speaker 4: So uh Uli has done a great job. He's coming

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along really well.

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Speaker 5: And and then the just the honestly just the younger

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guys just need to gain weight, get bigger, and luckily

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we're we're really good at that. We can we can

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put weight on these guys. And I mean, I'm an experson.

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If everybody needs to know how, I just come hang

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out with me for a day and you'll find out

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how how hard it is for me to keep them

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weight off. So but yeah, these guys, uh and then

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they have close Pole has done a great job in

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helping them get there. So the entire D line group there,

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they should be bigger. If you see them now, they're

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bigger than they were at the at the Bull Prep

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and they'll be bigger all the time we hit hit

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fall camp in August.

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Speaker 3: Plenty of defensive linemen there that are stepping up.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 3: Vasa has also mentioned a few guys step and up

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in that defensive in tier line. Uh, some big bodies.

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Hopefully they got a nice rotation and nice healthy rotation

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this year. Will Ferren meant a lot to this program.

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Who on the on the special team side of things,

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Uh have made an impact thus far.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna well, we have Matthias done.

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Speaker 4: He has done a great job. And Matthias was Will's backup

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for the last couple of years.

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Speaker 5: And and luckily Will has been great about teaching him

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what helps Will and his mindset and he has no

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Will's got a great mindset when it comes to kicking.

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Speaker 4: He got he got, you know, his ice in his veins.

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Speaker 5: And so I think that's kind of if you watch

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Matthias in this camp in spring, He's done a great

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job and kind of basically being another another Willfare. And

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then Ian Sanchez is helping us out right now. He

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just got home from a mission. And then uh, you know,

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we plan on Brodie Laga joining us after his mission

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he gets back in a couple of months. So, uh,

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those guys are done a great job. And then Fuller

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has done a great job for us in the punting part.

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And and I think it's it's his it's his job

475
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right now, you know so and he and so far

476
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and then the springball he's I mean, he's done everything

477
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we think he could. He's got a powerful leg and

478
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so I think he's done a great job with that.

479
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Speaker 4: In the holding part. I think we'll be fine with

480
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the kicking I could.

481
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Speaker 3: I still think it's tough to replace Will Fair, but

482
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Will was very complimentary of Matthiah's done and the competition

483
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that could brew even with that place kicking. But and

484
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then full of shirts A going to be the punter.

485
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It looks like he's solidified that. Any thoughts, any commentarity

486
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follow up to that? Ronald the free Man Weaver.

487
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Speaker 6: Yeah, asked this question because I was curious, right, you

488
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,559
just mentioned it, like it's hard to a place to

489
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Will fare and a guy that was what eighty one

490
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percent of his career like that's going to be kicking

491
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on Sundays. It's tough, man, I mean, it really is.

492
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,640
It was tough to you know, replace Ryan Rico. It's

493
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hard to replace and field big shoes of guys that

494
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,720
had a huge impact not only in the game of

495
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college football but at BAE specifically. So I think Matthias don't.

496
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Will have his growing pains like everybody, every kicker has

497
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to learn. But when you learn from a guy like

498
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Will' who better to learn from Ben in my opinion.

499
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Speaker 4: So we'll see what happens.

500
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Speaker 6: Like you mentioned Will when we had him on the

501
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show last week, if you missed, interview download on the

502
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podcast was very complimentary of Matthiah. So I'm excited to

503
00:22:14,079 --> 00:22:16,440
see it. You know, I had to Ecro you know,

504
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,200
three years ago, and I said, Bo, you would struggle

505
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with kicking.

506
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Speaker 4: Was happy to do.

507
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Speaker 6: So I'm gonna want to continue to do that because

508
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Billion needs to win on all three phases. Been so

509
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special teams if you're asking me, I guess biggest question

510
00:22:27,079 --> 00:22:30,039
mark at the position coming in when you got LJ

511
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coming back. So I'm not worried about the offensive defense.

512
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You know, maybe I shouldn't overlooking snore and yawn, but

513
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I think special teams when you lose someone like Will

514
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and even someone like Sam, that that's tough to replace.

515
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But we'll see what they do. I like the guys

516
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that they do have in both rooms.

517
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Speaker 3: Though, speaking of Sam, last thing, last comment from Polani.

518
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Sam banders are trying to get another year of eligibility.

519
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Where do we stand in the punting competition?

520
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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, Sam, we're I guess we're waiting for Instan

521
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Douba to make decisions and we're gonna see if he

522
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can get his years, get his elgible, but if not,

523
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then we'll move on. But we love Sam, we love

524
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our group, and you know, I'll I'd like him courage

525
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everybody to getting next year.

526
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Speaker 4: I'd take ten or wall back if he could. And

527
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you know all.

528
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Speaker 5: These guys that are senior, so because there's any chance

529
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we can get another year from all of them, and

530
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I'll do it. But yeah, we'll send the way. But

531
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I don't know what the odds are are in that.

532
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But if there's a slight chance to see what we

533
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can do.

534
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Speaker 1: There, boom shock, I lock guys.

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Speaker 3: That's Kalana's Stockey camp Killiney twenty twenty six. Good catching

536
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up with the head coach of the Bau Cougar football

537
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team that's gonna end up being the Polynesian lavel As.

538
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He's got himself a nice ten year deal. He's gonna

539
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be there for the next decade, uh leading the Cougars

540
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to glory and victory, and I can't wait to see

541
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what he can accomplish in the next ten years. Pretty crazy, man,

542
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he's already he's already done this for pretty much, you know,

543
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a decade.

544
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Speaker 1: He's done in a decade. We're going to be you know,

545
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another twenty years. Man.

546
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Speaker 3: Lavelle, you know, Lavelle was at Buyu, you know for

547
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a very long time, right, the legendary Lavelle Edwards. He

548
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was became an assistant in nineteen sixty two and coached

549
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at WAU through two thousand.

550
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Speaker 1: Okay, so long, illustrious career.

551
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Speaker 3: It's gonna be tough for Kilani to be the head

552
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coach of BAU.

553
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Speaker 1: The first long as lavel was. But I wouldn't put

554
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it past Kilanie. I think he could. He could do it.

555
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Speaker 3: It's just not not like he'll probably want to retire

556
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before that and sail off into the sunset with his family,

557
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visiting Florida, Hawaii in all manner of exotic locations.

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Speaker 3: Welcome in action Jackson Payne here of the Deserrat News.

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Speaker 7: How you doing, Jackson, I'm doing well.

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Speaker 1: I'll have to be on yes.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, give me your thoughts on where BYU basketball stands

614
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in this big twelve tournament. Do you think they survive

615
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and maybe been thriving this big twelfth term and how

616
00:27:02,319 --> 00:27:02,960
far do they go?

617
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

618
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Speaker 7: I think yesterday was really encouraging. Just what you saw

619
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probably their best offensive performance of the year. AJ obviously

620
00:27:11,799 --> 00:27:15,039
had a historic night, but to have the scoring that

621
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they got from the supporting cast has to be the

622
00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:20,640
most encouraging aspect, and just hoping that they can keep

623
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it rolling. The quick turnaround can be tough in terms

624
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of getting rest and whatnot, but I think it helps

625
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YU in this instance, just because one you're used to

626
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,240
playing on that funky glass floor, but also you know

627
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,079
you have it's easier to carry the momentum over. It's

628
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a quick turnaround. You know, they're already in the groove

629
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,799
and you don't have to throw anything off. So I

630
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,680
think they'll get the job done today if they'll probably

631
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,759
lose to Houston, and that should lock them into a

632
00:27:44,759 --> 00:27:48,240
sixth seed, which, you know, all things considered, that was

633
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,119
the best case scenario in this tournament. Obviously winning the

634
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,400
tournament would be cool, but at the same time, you'd

635
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,279
be spending a lot of energy and effort that could

636
00:27:55,279 --> 00:27:57,799
probably be best served in the NSAA tournament. But to

637
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stay a sixth seed and get a couple win and

638
00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:02,559
you know, when you add the Big Twelve tournament to

639
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,880
the season performance, you'd be above five hundred and the

640
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Big Twelve and you know, win two games lock your

641
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,519
seed in. That's that's as good as it gets for Yu.

642
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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, it would be a glorious thing for

643
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the Cooges to I think, all things consider, to be

644
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,640
a sixth seed, right because I think there was talk about,

645
00:28:21,799 --> 00:28:25,240
you know, worst case scenarios BAU possibly getting even to

646
00:28:25,759 --> 00:28:28,240
a ten seed with the way that they were playing

647
00:28:28,279 --> 00:28:28,759
at times.

648
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Speaker 7: Yeah, getting wearing the white jerseys on Thursday is huge.

649
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You want to be the higher seed. Following to a

650
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ten would have been pretty catastrophic considering everything with the season.

651
00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:42,440
I think a lot about that Oklahoma team when they

652
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,799
had Trey Young as a freshman. Obviously there's some parallels

653
00:28:44,839 --> 00:28:47,119
there with Trey Young being the best player in the

654
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country but not winning Big Twelve Player of the Year

655
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that year because Oklahoma was bad in Big Twelve play.

656
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They made the tournament, they were a ten seed. They

657
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lost the seven seed Rhode Island with Dan Hurley, and

658
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now b YU doesn't have to worry about that, right

659
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They'll be a six seed, They'll be favored in the

660
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first round, and then hopefully, you know, the best case

661
00:29:01,519 --> 00:29:04,039
scenario I think for BYU is they go to Portland.

662
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They're close to the West Coast, maybe more fans show

663
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up there, and they would play Gonzaga three seed in

664
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the second round, which you know, Gonzaga is Gonzaga, but

665
00:29:12,279 --> 00:29:15,160
they're not a Kinzaga of old, right Like, there feels

666
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like a more beatable team this year, and I think

667
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BYU matches well with them, And I mean ideally b

668
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YU would play an eleventh seed, maybe a big Steeler

669
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from from a lower league, and then play a fourteen

670
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seed in the second round. That's probably the best case

671
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scenario for BYU, But you know, all all all things considered,

672
00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:34,640
they'll probably play Gonzaga as a three seed and hopefully

673
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,519
bay He gets the job done there. But yeah, I

674
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mean after yesterday, got to feel a lot better about

675
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their ceiling and their ability to win game in March.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Kansas State is Is Kansas State the

677
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worst team in the Big twelve?

678
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Speaker 1: Though?

679
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Speaker 3: I mean, what can we learn from that game? Considering

680
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who Kansas State is. They don't really have a head coach,

681
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they don't have an identity. There's some good players on

682
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,960
the team, don't get me wrong, but how much can

683
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,680
you really read into that Kansas State game?

684
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

685
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Speaker 7: I just think the biggest thing was BYU had an

686
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emotional win over Texas Tech. The last time they had

687
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a topton win, they lost to UCF at home and

688
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which should have been some of the most favorable circumstances

689
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of the year for BYU. So I think it showed

690
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that this BYU team, just in a matter of weeks,

691
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,599
has grown a little bit knowing that Okay, like you

692
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,799
can win a game and not let the emotional letdown

693
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or not let not let the emotional aspects, you know,

694
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like BYU can't even gonna take a quick letdown to

695
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,920
a team that probably shouldn't beat them, right, they did

696
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,720
a couple of weeks ago, but they fixed that. And

697
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,200
obviously Haggarty, I think Haggardy's gonna get his and he

698
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,799
certainly did yesterday. But Byu did a good job towards

699
00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:39,079
the end of limiting everybody around him, and that was

700
00:30:39,079 --> 00:30:40,839
probably the game plan. And I just I just think,

701
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,400
especially offensively, like no matter what, you doesn't matter who

702
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,440
you play against. To drop one hundred five points in

703
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,200
the conference tournament is impressive. I don't care who the

704
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,039
opponent is. So I just think b YU. At the

705
00:30:51,039 --> 00:30:53,440
same time, like like Kansas State, they're in a weird spot.

706
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,319
They don't have a head coach, like you said, the

707
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,759
guys they're playing for the portal, like I'm sure guys

708
00:30:57,759 --> 00:30:59,160
like playing with each other. They want to keep it

709
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going as long as possible. Like you could tell the

710
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,119
Kansas State was fighting. I don't think they mailed the

711
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,640
end at all yesterday. And so yeah, I mean, I

712
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,480
think you can just take some take some pride for

713
00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:12,039
BYU knowing that they just felt like everyone was clicking.

714
00:31:12,079 --> 00:31:14,720
It felt like the offense was last year at by

715
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,440
you peaked at the right time, right, like just they

716
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,880
grew together throughout the season and in March they were

717
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,400
playing their best basketball, and yesterday looked like some of

718
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,880
their best offensive basketball the season. And that's like I

719
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,680
said before, I don't care who you play against, like

720
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,319
you've got to have a performance like that in March,

721
00:31:27,319 --> 00:31:29,359
and so by should s feel good about that, And

722
00:31:29,359 --> 00:31:32,599
like I said earlier, it's a quick turnaround and hopefully

723
00:31:32,599 --> 00:31:35,519
that that helps BYU momentum wise, knowing that they can

724
00:31:35,599 --> 00:31:37,799
just keep it going today and being able to rest

725
00:31:37,799 --> 00:31:39,519
some of their guys in the final minutes yesterday. I

726
00:31:39,519 --> 00:31:41,799
think Rob right by the way, like getting his two

727
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,559
knocked out might have been a blessing in disguise for

728
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,000
BYU because they kind of forced them to rest him

729
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,599
at the end of that game, and now he'll have

730
00:31:47,599 --> 00:31:49,000
a little more in the tank for today. They were

731
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,480
able to take aj out with a few more minutes,

732
00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:53,039
and I know thirty seven minutes and forty minutes isn't

733
00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:55,079
a huge difference, but I think just being able to

734
00:31:55,079 --> 00:31:56,799
rest guys and maybe giving them that mental like all right,

735
00:31:56,839 --> 00:31:58,920
We're sitting the rest of the game, so I can

736
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,680
go full through out of tomorrow. I think that helps YU.

737
00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, really for kind of feel that way. I kind

738
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,160
of feel like, if Rob Wright going to be somewhat limited,

739
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,240
will he be as aggressive. We've already had issues over

740
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:17,119
this season with maybe a lack of effort. He showcased

741
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,200
what he can do when he's on point, when he's

742
00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:25,319
high energy, high effort, just balling out. You wonder if

743
00:32:25,319 --> 00:32:29,920
this injury will limit him at all from an effort standpoint.

744
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:30,839
Speaker 1: Give me your thoughts on that.

745
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 7: I mean, maybe he starts out a little more cautious,

746
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,640
a little more calculated in his effort, not effort, but

747
00:32:38,759 --> 00:32:41,359
maybe just doesn't have to dial it up to eleven,

748
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,519
doesn't have to be as aggressive early, and then kind

749
00:32:43,559 --> 00:32:46,240
of the way however the game plays out, maybe he'll

750
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,920
adjut accordingly. Right like By's been kind of a slow

751
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,680
starting team for out the season. Maybe they're just I

752
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,480
don't know, it's just I think I think Rob has

753
00:32:56,519 --> 00:32:58,039
put some good deposits in the bank to where you

754
00:32:58,079 --> 00:33:00,599
know you can count on him the effort or the energy.

755
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,079
Maybe a few times it dips, but it's the conference tournament,

756
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,960
you know you're playing for something BYU. Just I just

757
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:14,519
think that the circumstances making a different. The circumstances make

758
00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:16,240
it different, right, And I think Rob will be able

759
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,799
to play accordingly. And like I said, maybe it's a

760
00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:22,160
little more calculated, maybe it's a little more cautious early,

761
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,799
but I'm sure if he has the ball in his

762
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,799
hands late with a chance to win, you know he's

763
00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:29,599
not going to hold anything back. So hopefully they numb

764
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,920
him up and his tooth doesn't bother him too much

765
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,319
and he can go out and play some good ball.

766
00:33:33,799 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jackson, I was just looking at Lunardi's latest bracketology

767
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:38,440
for BYU.

768
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,559
Speaker 1: They're a six seed, but.

769
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,519
Speaker 3: They'd be matched up in Portland. Okay, that's good, right,

770
00:33:43,559 --> 00:33:46,839
a lot of BYU fans out there, good LGS contingent.

771
00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:50,240
They'd match up against Miami of Ohio, and then in

772
00:33:50,279 --> 00:33:52,960
the round of thirty two, it looks like they'd get

773
00:33:53,119 --> 00:33:56,920
Gonzaga or UC Irvine, most likely Gonzaga.

774
00:33:57,039 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: Is that a good thing? Would that be a good

775
00:33:58,920 --> 00:33:59,799
thing or a bad thing?

776
00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 3: Going to Portland facing Miami of Ohio and then possibly

777
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,119
facing Zaga.

778
00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:08,159
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, like I said earlier, I think Innzaga

779
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:10,440
is probably the most favorable three seed that they could play.

780
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,800
I think BYU matches up well with Gonzaga. I don't

781
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,159
think this is as good a good Zaga team as

782
00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:16,639
they've had in recent years. Santa Clair was giving them

783
00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:20,000
some trouble yesterday in the WCC title game. You know,

784
00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:21,679
I think by you could go in and get the

785
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,000
win over in Zaga if they had the opportunity in

786
00:34:24,039 --> 00:34:26,239
Portland is there'll be a ton of in Zaga fans there, obviously,

787
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,119
but there'll be a ton of YU fans too. As

788
00:34:28,119 --> 00:34:31,400
for Miami of Ohio, like, look, Miami of Ohio is

789
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,679
the best story in college basketball this year. It's been

790
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,039
really fun to watch them. I've watched a ton of

791
00:34:35,039 --> 00:34:36,960
their games because I've been ranking them in the poll

792
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,920
every week, and I really like a NERF Fund team,

793
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,960
and they're everything good about college basketball. I don't think

794
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,880
they've played a team with b Yu's length and athleticism

795
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,559
kind of similar to VCU last year, and BYU match

796
00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:48,920
up with them in the first round where it's like,

797
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,599
all right, this is a really good team, great defense,

798
00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:56,880
the effort and the stats are there, but you know,

799
00:34:57,079 --> 00:34:59,199
VCU hadn't play the team with Yu's caliber, and it

800
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,239
showed you know why you was playing the VCU down

801
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:02,960
the stretch of that game. And so I think that's

802
00:35:03,039 --> 00:35:04,480
kind of the same with Miami of Ohio. But at

803
00:35:04,519 --> 00:35:06,800
the same time, like all the pressure goes on BYU

804
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,800
in that moment where it's like, you know, Miami of Ohio,

805
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,320
everybody wants to see, like what they can do in

806
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,360
the tournament if they're a fraud, if they're real, and

807
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,320
Byu suddenly gets put in the spot where it's like,

808
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,360
oh no, like we have to uh, you know, boy,

809
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,039
you have to figure out how to get the job done.

810
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:23,960
And it's a tough spot to be put in for

811
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,159
both for both sides, right, Like b Yu has the

812
00:35:26,159 --> 00:35:27,840
best player in the country, Miami of Ohio would have

813
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,519
to beat them, but also Byu has to be no

814
00:35:29,519 --> 00:35:31,880
one thefeeded team. Like it's just it's a weird pressure

815
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,960
spot to be put in. And I would like to

816
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,840
think that the bracketologists would would be smart enough knowing like,

817
00:35:37,199 --> 00:35:39,760
all right, we want Miami of Ohio to play longer

818
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,280
because it's a cool story, but we also want the

819
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,880
best player in college basketball to play longer. So hopefully

820
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,280
they wouldn't knock one of them out in the first

821
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,840
round by matching them up with each other. But I

822
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,760
just think it would be the off the court kind

823
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,280
of mental stuff. What's playing Miami of Ohio is would

824
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,559
be crazy And then hopefully, you know, if BYU does

825
00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:57,559
get the job done there, they can play a little

826
00:35:57,559 --> 00:35:59,320
more loose against Kazag and get the upset. I think

827
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,360
that's kind of what the beat Wisconsin last year, where

828
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,360
it's like, you know, there was a stigma buy you

829
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,679
always lose in the first round. They beat VCU the

830
00:36:05,679 --> 00:36:07,719
monkeys off their back, and they go and win against Wisconsin,

831
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,639
And that first half against Wisconsin was the best half

832
00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:12,199
of basketball they played all year, And so I really think,

833
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:13,719
you know, if they can get that first round win

834
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,360
over a team like Miami of Ohio, it helps them

835
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,440
against Kuzbaga. But at the same time, as a as

836
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,000
a college basketball fan, I don't want see you why

837
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,440
you played Miami of Ohio because I want to see

838
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,119
both of tho teams playing in the second round. So

839
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,159
hopefully that doesn't end up being the draw, but if

840
00:36:26,159 --> 00:36:27,800
it is, it'll be interesting for sure.

841
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 3: Jackson Payne des red News here on a Cougar Beat

842
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,320
Little college basketball, college football conversation here on your Utah

843
00:36:36,519 --> 00:36:39,199
ESPN Radio network. I do want to discuss with your

844
00:36:39,199 --> 00:36:41,400
Camp Kilani and some of the storylines coming out of

845
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,239
Camp Killane would have been the main storylines you've been

846
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:44,840
intrigued by.

847
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,159
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I haven't been able to go the

848
00:36:48,199 --> 00:36:51,360
last couple of times with basketball and everything. But obviously,

849
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,880
I think the defense, like with Kelley Pipeinga, I don't

850
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,559
think there's gonna be any crazy changes. They kept a

851
00:36:55,599 --> 00:36:57,679
lot of the same guys. Sounds like the scheme and

852
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,599
the philosophies will kind of stay the same. But on

853
00:36:59,599 --> 00:37:01,639
the offense side of the ball, right like with Parker

854
00:37:01,679 --> 00:37:03,239
Kingston Gong. We don't have to dive into that, but

855
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,159
just the wide receiver room, like who's gonna step up,

856
00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:09,840
who's gonna merge as the guy. There's been some flashes

857
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,920
from Kyler Casper that have been encouraging. How obviously, if

858
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,639
he stays healthy, can help Uyu Shojo Phillips. You know

859
00:37:14,679 --> 00:37:16,760
you've seen flashes of brilliance from him at Byu, But

860
00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:19,639
can he stay healthy? Can he take that step and

861
00:37:19,679 --> 00:37:23,000
be the number one guy? The tight ends the Salipaga

862
00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:24,920
and Lions. I think they're gonna be a big part

863
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,480
of the offense. Running back obviously, you know Lger Martin's hurt,

864
00:37:28,519 --> 00:37:30,480
but you got to get some guys around him. You

865
00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:33,000
got to get a supporting cast in the backs to

866
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,280
maybe take some of the load off him, and backup

867
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,920
quarterback too. I mean, this is a very I mean,

868
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,440
I think everything with this year in with spring ball

869
00:37:41,559 --> 00:37:43,400
is just building depth. And I think that's the same

870
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,639
for every year, but especially this year, Like you got

871
00:37:45,639 --> 00:37:47,480
to flesh out your receiver room. You got to make

872
00:37:47,519 --> 00:37:49,519
sure your tight ends are able to, you know, do

873
00:37:49,599 --> 00:37:51,559
their job. Got to make sure the running backs and

874
00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:54,880
support LJ and then backup quarterback. I think the fact

875
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,840
that BYU's had their starting quarterbacks start every game of

876
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,159
the season in the past two years is tremendous, but

877
00:38:00,159 --> 00:38:03,519
it's also kind of fluky. Like BYU historically, their quarterbacks

878
00:38:03,559 --> 00:38:05,000
get hurt, and I know the sports signs from the

879
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,760
training team are doing a good jobs keeping them healthy,

880
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,719
but I think it's more likely than not that you're

881
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,960
going to see a You're going to see a backup

882
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,280
quarterback at some time this year. Hopefully Bear stays healthy,

883
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,559
right but with how physical his style of play is,

884
00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:18,199
and just the grind of having just played fourteen games

885
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,760
last year and big to a football like, who knows

886
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,599
what's gonna happen. You can't you can't count on a

887
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:25,400
health ever, and so I just think at some point

888
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,800
you might see some backup quarterback action. And so Trayson

889
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,760
Borget he's the veteran, he's been at UY a few years.

890
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,400
Enik Watson he's the freshman. He's off a mission. He's

891
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,519
got some really intriguing talent. I mean, watching them in

892
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:39,199
Folk in spring ball is definitely kind of intriguing my eye,

893
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,320
just because you know, like I said, you're probably gonna

894
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,559
see one of them in Battle this year, and so

895
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,239
hopefully what they do is encourages you for when that

896
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,360
time comes. Potentially.

897
00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:53,079
Speaker 3: I was just thinking about, you know, A j and

898
00:38:53,519 --> 00:38:56,480
his productivity. I thought it was very mature of him

899
00:38:56,519 --> 00:38:58,000
in the post game. I don't know if you saw this.

900
00:38:58,119 --> 00:39:03,400
Chancellor Johnson was interviewing him. Chancellor said essentially any if

901
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,599
he had any qualms with not being the Big twelve

902
00:39:05,639 --> 00:39:08,199
Player of the year, and in a very mature fast

903
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,199
He's like, look, yeah, I mean I thought I could

904
00:39:10,199 --> 00:39:15,239
have got it, but they they give or gave credit

905
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,360
to the best team with and arguably the best player

906
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,800
on that team that that led him, and we're a

907
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,280
losing team where we're a five hundred team. I thought

908
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,360
I was pretty mature of him to react in such

909
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:26,599
a way.

910
00:39:26,639 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Yeah, I totally agree.

911
00:39:29,519 --> 00:39:34,519
Speaker 7: I mean, look, I think the widespread opinion has been

912
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:36,719
A j should have been the player of the year,

913
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,719
and if not AJ then JT. Toppin. If not JT. Topping,

914
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,519
then Joshua Jefferson. It's like Jayden Bradley won't be a

915
00:39:43,519 --> 00:39:46,159
first team All American. Like fullucolature, I vote for the

916
00:39:46,159 --> 00:39:48,000
All America teams. I didn't have Jayen Bradley on my

917
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,079
All America ballot, and I think he's a great player.

918
00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:51,719
I would have voted him first team All be twelve,

919
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:56,880
but he's not. Like I just think it's a lifetime achievement,

920
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,880
you know, veteran senior leader on the best team in

921
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,000
a coference, and that's not what the award should be.

922
00:40:02,119 --> 00:40:03,639
And you know there's a precedent for this, right Like

923
00:40:03,639 --> 00:40:05,559
when I talked about Trey Young earlier, but when Trey

924
00:40:05,559 --> 00:40:07,639
Young was at Oklahoma, he was the first player in

925
00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:10,400
history to lead the country in points and assists, like

926
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,159
he was the scoring leader and the assist leader, and

927
00:40:12,199 --> 00:40:14,480
he wasn't Big Twelve Player of the Year because Oklahoma

928
00:40:14,519 --> 00:40:15,920
went eight and ten and they lost the first round

929
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,239
in March, and so they and they picked the best

930
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,000
player on the best team, which was Kansas. All that

931
00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:24,719
is to say, I get why they picked Bradley, and

932
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,800
I think Sean Farnham and Bye team was talking about

933
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,480
how you know, topping and AJ probably got a lot

934
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,360
of votes, but Bradley took away votes from both of them,

935
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,679
and it's just it was kind of a weird votes thing.

936
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:39,280
But AJ handled it great right BYU. Maybe they dropped

937
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,360
some games they shouldn't have. The UCF loss was inexcusable.

938
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,440
I still think the Oklahoma State loss was inexcusable. B

939
00:40:44,679 --> 00:40:47,039
Yu did not deliver the team that that I think

940
00:40:47,079 --> 00:40:49,800
AJ was was hoping for. But I think they can

941
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,199
still have their I think they can still make some

942
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,480
magic happain in March and still be a memorable season.

943
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,440
But I agree with AJ right he. I just think

944
00:40:56,599 --> 00:40:58,599
he's so mature. I think he's passed every test at

945
00:40:58,599 --> 00:41:01,280
BYU with flying colors all this talk about the r

946
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,719
OI not being the r O Y not being worth

947
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,599
it for AJ is just it's it's ridiculous. I think

948
00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:10,239
b YU, the AJA experiment or experience at BYU is

949
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,639
gonna slam dunk and I'm I'm I'm getting sick of

950
00:41:13,639 --> 00:41:15,360
people trying to tell me the opposite because I think

951
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,440
everything that AJ has done, and I mean, he's been

952
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,480
an incredible player. He led the country in scoring. It's

953
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,159
an all the time YU season. He's been a force

954
00:41:21,199 --> 00:41:24,960
for good off the court. He's he's changed the way

955
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,239
that BOU basketball is viewed. And now you're seeing guys

956
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,519
like Bruce Branch come to BYU like AJ is a

957
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,480
trail blazer at p BY. He's helping transform the way

958
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,360
that by has perceived across the country. And I know

959
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,800
that by probably isn't the front of four team for

960
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,320
whatever reason that that many people thought they could be

961
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,760
this year. But I think the impact of what a

962
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,360
j De Bonsa did this year at YU will be

963
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:44,960
felt for for years to come. And I think that's

964
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,119
the biggest thing about all so he should have been

965
00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:48,400
the big towl Player of the year. I get why

966
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,719
they shows Bradley, I don't agree with it, but I

967
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,840
think the way that aj handled it was was very mature,

968
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,199
and more than anything, it's a blessing in disguss for

969
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,280
Byu because it lit a fire under him like, Okay,

970
00:41:57,559 --> 00:41:58,920
I am the best player. I'm gonna show you in

971
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,039
the court. And he definitely saw yesterday against Kansas State

972
00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:03,360
and look, I want to bet against a j Ed March.

973
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,840
I think he just he takes his game to another

974
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,639
level when the stakes are highest. He saw the Madison

975
00:42:08,679 --> 00:42:10,760
Square Garden. You've seen it in some many these big

976
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,000
moments this year, and so I just think he loves

977
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,000
the spotlight. And and you know, by you will be

978
00:42:15,039 --> 00:42:17,079
in the spotlight in March, and he's going to deliver.

979
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: Jackson.

980
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 3: You know that that particular articulation, it reminded me of

981
00:42:23,559 --> 00:42:27,480
a tweet that you put out after the last big

982
00:42:27,559 --> 00:42:30,639
win versus Texas Tech at home. You said, this is

983
00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:33,000
why you never give up give up on the season.

984
00:42:33,639 --> 00:42:37,280
Did you feel that like Cougar Nation or who did

985
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:37,920
you feel.

986
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,639
Speaker 1: Was giving up on the seasons in particular?

987
00:42:42,079 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 7: You know, I just felt like there was some talk

988
00:42:43,559 --> 00:42:46,000
like you know, just fast forward a football season like

989
00:42:46,039 --> 00:42:48,199
it didn't work out, blah, blah blah, like I think

990
00:42:48,199 --> 00:42:50,519
there was some name saying, and I don't want to

991
00:42:50,559 --> 00:42:52,920
blame anyone for that because you know, after some of

992
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,880
those losses, like it was tough, Like part of being

993
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,400
a fan is riding the ups and the downs, and

994
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,480
I think the downs were just feeling such brutal for

995
00:43:00,519 --> 00:43:02,599
BYU that it was like, I don't blame anybody for

996
00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:05,760
having the thoughts to maybe jump ship or stop believing.

997
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,519
But you know, I know people people want to police

998
00:43:08,559 --> 00:43:10,159
storming the court, but by you beat a top ten

999
00:43:10,199 --> 00:43:12,519
team at home, and they did on Senior night, Like

1000
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:14,880
I think it is there. I think it merit it

1001
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,679
a court storming. Obviously Boop was waving for fans to

1002
00:43:17,679 --> 00:43:19,599
come on the court and join them and party. And

1003
00:43:20,039 --> 00:43:22,119
it's just one of those things like you know, BYU

1004
00:43:22,199 --> 00:43:24,480
lost three really dumb games in a row and then

1005
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:25,880
they beat a top ten team at home, and I

1006
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,559
know Texas Tech did on a top and but BYU

1007
00:43:27,559 --> 00:43:29,960
doesn't have Saunders, right, and Texas Tech has been winning

1008
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,320
games without Top and BYU without Saunders, you know, the

1009
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,960
results hadn't been as positive. So I don't want anybody

1010
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,719
to try and take away the shine off that win

1011
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,480
because it was a really impressive win of the hard

1012
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,440
fought win. I think the biggest thing is you saw

1013
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,440
that BYU got its fight back, it got its group back,

1014
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,119
And to have a scene like that where people are

1015
00:43:46,119 --> 00:43:48,440
storming the court and it's a celebration, it's a night

1016
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,840
to remember. Like those are the things that that lasts forever,

1017
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,960
Like how long have we been talking about the Kenzaga

1018
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,800
win in twenty twenty or Jimmer it against San Diego State,

1019
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,639
like that Texas Tech win for better I mean, it's

1020
00:43:58,639 --> 00:44:00,599
not on that level, but it'll be night that people

1021
00:44:00,599 --> 00:44:02,119
at BYU who are at that game will be talking

1022
00:44:02,159 --> 00:44:02,639
about forever.

1023
00:44:02,679 --> 00:44:03,599
Speaker 4: And so to have a.

1024
00:44:03,559 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 7: Moment like that, that's going to stand that test of time,

1025
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,559
Like that's why you don't give up on the season,

1026
00:44:06,599 --> 00:44:10,039
because anything can happen. I think about trying to remember

1027
00:44:10,079 --> 00:44:13,199
the coach's name, Dan Monson, he was at He was

1028
00:44:13,199 --> 00:44:15,400
at Long Beach State for a long time. He got

1029
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,880
fired before the conference tournament. They had a bad year,

1030
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,400
but then they won the conference tournament and made the

1031
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,800
INSA tournament, and it was this crazy thing like, you know,

1032
00:44:22,119 --> 00:44:23,679
you could you could have given up all the season then,

1033
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,960
but they went on a run. They defied the odds

1034
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,840
and they did something incredible. They went to the tournament

1035
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,079
as a like the ten seam in their conference or whatever.

1036
00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:32,280
So it's just one of those things like just it's

1037
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,519
it's the Jimmy Valvano, right, it's that don't ever give up,

1038
00:44:34,519 --> 00:44:38,039
don't ever give up, Like just anything can happen in sports,

1039
00:44:38,079 --> 00:44:39,360
and that's what makes it so beautiful. That's why I

1040
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,880
love telling the stories about him. So I don't I

1041
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,440
don't blame people for having some pessimism and feeling maybe

1042
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,199
as if the the the good days of BYA Basketball

1043
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,559
had passed them by. But you know, BYU of credit

1044
00:44:51,559 --> 00:44:53,559
to Kevin Young and his staff, credit to the players,

1045
00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:55,400
credit to Richie Saunders for whatever he's doing on the

1046
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,920
bench to get BYU wins whenever he's there. Like, it's

1047
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,960
just been amazing to see them kind of respond to

1048
00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:02,400
the adversity and come out and maybe reinvent themselves and

1049
00:45:02,519 --> 00:45:08,280
rediscover their fight. So I mean, BYU, like bau fans

1050
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,079
had every right to to maybe be pessimistic or be

1051
00:45:12,159 --> 00:45:14,360
down on the Cougars, but you know, by you've proved

1052
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,239
them wrong. They figured out a way to get the win,

1053
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,960
and I just it's been amazing to see them with

1054
00:45:20,079 --> 00:45:22,199
more of that spark, more of that fight, since that

1055
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,320
takes a second.

1056
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 3: Love that perspective, Jackson, Brent, you or Mark yesterday said

1057
00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:30,960
that the Big twelve deserves eight to nine bids.

1058
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,159
Speaker 1: You stated that if you're five hundred or.

1059
00:45:34,119 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 3: Above in the league, you should get in Cincinnati's you know,

1060
00:45:38,559 --> 00:45:42,480
top twenty five and analytics. Since December, West Virginia has

1061
00:45:42,519 --> 00:45:45,880
been flirtatious right there at the at the five hundred mark,

1062
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,599
and they did lose the Kansas State to kind of

1063
00:45:48,679 --> 00:45:50,760
end the year, but they got to win over UCF.

1064
00:45:51,079 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: What do you think how many.

1065
00:45:52,039 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 3: Bids do you think the Big twelve deserves in this

1066
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:55,440
NCAA tournament.

1067
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,119
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't have a number off the top of

1068
00:45:58,119 --> 00:45:59,280
my head. I have to look at it, but I

1069
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,599
do think, like, if you can go over five hundred,

1070
00:46:01,639 --> 00:46:03,199
Like I just remember that first year when by using

1071
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,280
the Big twelve, they went ten and eight, I want

1072
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,800
to say with Mark Pope, and that was a huge success.

1073
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,800
It's like, wow, you went over five hundred. The best

1074
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,679
basketball conference, the deepest basketball conference in the country. Going

1075
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,599
over five hundred is definitely something to Pat yourself on

1076
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:18,400
the back about and I think if you go over

1077
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:19,920
five hundred and the Big twel odds are, you probably

1078
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,079
should be the inst of the way tournament. But obviously,

1079
00:46:22,119 --> 00:46:24,599
like look BYU went five hundred in the Big twelve,

1080
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,199
their non conference is probably what kept them safely in

1081
00:46:28,199 --> 00:46:31,800
the field with their wins over people like Villanova, Miami, Clemson.

1082
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,800
So we have to if we're gonna use that logic

1083
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,360
to keep BYU in the tournament, we got to use

1084
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:37,840
that logic to maybe keep some other people out of

1085
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,639
the tournament too. And I want as many Big twelve

1086
00:46:39,639 --> 00:46:41,880
teams as possible in the tournament obviously, but if you

1087
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,000
had some bad losses earlier that are hurting your metrics,

1088
00:46:44,039 --> 00:46:46,239
like I don't know, like that should probably be weighing

1089
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:47,800
as well. But at the same time, like if you

1090
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,519
look the part of the tournament team down the stretch,

1091
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,320
you should probably be in as well. Like Yu Womb's basketball.

1092
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,679
By women's bastball has been amazing as of late, and

1093
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,800
they've had some bad losses too, but you know, they

1094
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,400
ended the year looking like a tournament team, And so

1095
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,239
I think it's a weird balance to straight you know,

1096
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,880
like you want to take the whole seasons as what

1097
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,920
it's worth, but also you want to make sure the

1098
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,679
I tests Like I think the Big Twelve has the

1099
00:47:07,679 --> 00:47:11,639
most teams playing looking like tournament teams right now. Clearly

1100
00:47:12,159 --> 00:47:13,719
like there will be teams that don't make the tournament

1101
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,280
that look like they should be, but they won't be.

1102
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,159
And that's just how it goes. And so look, the

1103
00:47:17,199 --> 00:47:19,920
Big Twelve I think re established itself as the best

1104
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,400
basketball conference in America this year. And I mean, look,

1105
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,400
arizonaa win the national title, Houston win the national title.

1106
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,280
I was taking to go to the Final four. Like,

1107
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,000
It's just there's a lot of reasons for optimism in

1108
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,880
the Big Twelve and hopefully there's eight or nine, maybe

1109
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,800
ten teams representing the conference as a result.

1110
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 3: One of the things that stood out to me final

1111
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:42,039
thing the formulation Jo Jackson. I believe Rob Right has

1112
00:47:42,039 --> 00:47:46,000
gone on record and essentially stated that he's either going

1113
00:47:46,199 --> 00:47:51,559
pro or coming back to Provo Capitol Pro lowercase Vo

1114
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,559
next season. That would be massive news to get Rob

1115
00:47:55,639 --> 00:47:57,480
Right the third back at b YU.

1116
00:47:59,199 --> 00:48:03,119
Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely, I mean, I think it's it's it's one

1117
00:48:03,119 --> 00:48:05,639
of those things where it's like anything can change in

1118
00:48:05,679 --> 00:48:07,920
a moment, right, And I think as of now you

1119
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,480
have to take it for the timing, right, Like, as

1120
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,440
of now, that's his plan. Maybe he changes his mind,

1121
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,400
maybe things stay the same. I don't know, but as

1122
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:15,960
of right now, he wants to stay in Provo and

1123
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,679
that's what he said and so got it. Take it

1124
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,760
for his word. So hopefully he's back, because he would

1125
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,119
be a great you're losing Rich, you're losing aj who,

1126
00:48:23,199 --> 00:48:25,760
you're losing Kiba. If you could keep one of your stars,

1127
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,880
maybe Davis coming back, but I don't know. As you

1128
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,920
can keep a starter at Provo for next year, I

1129
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,960
think that'd be a huge huge boost for BYU. So

1130
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,000
we'll see how that shakes out.

1131
00:48:33,599 --> 00:48:35,559
Speaker 3: Jackson. Best way to support you what you do, how

1132
00:48:35,599 --> 00:48:38,159
you do it? For all of our listeners, Yeah.

1133
00:48:38,039 --> 00:48:40,159
Speaker 7: Just follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Jackson five

1134
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,519
pain and read the DEAs right news every day. We've

1135
00:48:42,519 --> 00:48:44,480
got a lot of YU content coming out from Jajur

1136
00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:46,639
and myself. So yeah, thanks for all the support.

1137
00:48:46,639 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 3: As always, you guys do great work. Appreciate you Jackson,

1138
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,039
great content. It's always thanks for the conversation.

1139
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 7: All right, Appreciate you Ben.

1140
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:54,440
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