WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.720 --> 00:00:06.919 D you needed that, so you don't have. 2 00:00:09.119 --> 00:00:09.759 Corn. 3 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:11.519 Just as as we can. 4 00:00:12.839 --> 00:00:15.080 Shooter's gonna help it come. 5 00:00:16.280 --> 00:00:16.600 Dix. 6 00:00:16.839 --> 00:00:21.920 He is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martinez. Hey, welcome 7 00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:22.480 to the show. 8 00:00:22.640 --> 00:00:26.800 I'm Tom here to help you solve problems, answer questions, 9 00:00:27.359 --> 00:00:30.039 take complaints, make your life a little easier, as I've 10 00:00:30.039 --> 00:00:32.320 been doing for years and years. We have a guest 11 00:00:32.359 --> 00:00:35.159 today we'll get to and uh. We also have Major 12 00:00:35.200 --> 00:00:39.119 Mark Major at the Mothership. And we and the guests, 13 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:43.799 by the way, Brendan Killian Denver Shades dot Co and 14 00:00:43.960 --> 00:00:49.000 uh Denver Shades. He's with Mark at the Mothership. And uh, 15 00:00:49.399 --> 00:00:52.520 welcome Brendan Denver Shades dot Coe, which is made in 16 00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:56.560 the shade window coverings. I'm just curious about something real 17 00:00:56.679 --> 00:00:59.719 quick here, Brendan, are you there? 18 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:00.280 Yes? 19 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:00.479 On? 20 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:01.600 Can you hear me? 21 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:03.920 Is this a busy time? Do people want to get 22 00:01:03.960 --> 00:01:06.280 like stuff done before the holidays? Or is it slow 23 00:01:06.319 --> 00:01:08.040 because they wait till after the holidays? 24 00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:10.400 Well a little of both. A lot of times people, 25 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:13.239 well it was slow like running up to the election 26 00:01:13.400 --> 00:01:18.239 actually and then and then usually this is the time 27 00:01:18.280 --> 00:01:20.959 to order for holidays because people want to order a 28 00:01:21.040 --> 00:01:23.359 week before the holidays, and it's just not possible. 29 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:25.159 So that's one thing I'm going to emphasize. 30 00:01:25.359 --> 00:01:26.879 This is the time now. 31 00:01:28.599 --> 00:01:31.280 Okay, can you get stuff by Christmas? 32 00:01:31.359 --> 00:01:35.719 Absolutely? I could have out by Thanksgiving some things possibly, 33 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:38.000 but it would literally be this week. And we are 34 00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:42.359 running a twenty five percent off Black Friday sale through 35 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:42.959 the holidays. 36 00:01:43.079 --> 00:01:44.920 Nice or the entire order. 37 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:49.799 Oh very cool? Stay good, Hey, that's Brendan, and Brendan, 38 00:01:50.000 --> 00:01:52.239 you're going to miss out on Filet Mignon because you 39 00:01:52.280 --> 00:01:54.640 didn't come here today, So the hell with you? Oh no, 40 00:01:57.760 --> 00:02:01.560 what's hey, Carly? What's going on with your car? Carly? 41 00:02:01.680 --> 00:02:02.359 What's happening? 42 00:02:03.200 --> 00:02:03.359 Hi? 43 00:02:03.519 --> 00:02:05.879 Tom So? 44 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:09.400 So last night we went to the film Or Auditorium. 45 00:02:08.840 --> 00:02:11.479 For a concert for with my thirteen year old. 46 00:02:11.439 --> 00:02:15.319 Daughter and her thirteen year old friend Jim. Go to 47 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:18.439 the Wendy's located right next door to the fillmore. 48 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:21.639 Oh man, this happens a lot. You got towed from 49 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:24.960 that Wendy's and hold on. This is what people usually 50 00:02:24.960 --> 00:02:27.479 tell me. They stopped at the Wendy's to get something 51 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:30.599 to eat, and they really did use Wendy's, but something 52 00:02:30.639 --> 00:02:32.599 went wrong. But I want to ask you something real quick. 53 00:02:32.639 --> 00:02:35.960 Who was at the Filmore or who was at the venue. 54 00:02:36.919 --> 00:02:38.560 The band was called Chase Atlantic. 55 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:41.240 They're kind of like an R and B rap group. 56 00:02:41.039 --> 00:02:42.400 Out of Australia. 57 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:45.680 Very cool. I've heard of them. 58 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:48.840 Yeah, And so I mean, we parked third before. So 59 00:02:48.879 --> 00:02:51.599 we went to Demi Levado two years ago in twenty 60 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:54.319 twenty two, and I paid six yards park there. 61 00:02:54.319 --> 00:02:57.000 We had no problems, right, Oh, so did you pay? 62 00:02:57.199 --> 00:03:00.280 Did you pay to the area of down did you 63 00:03:00.280 --> 00:03:01.080 pay to park there? 64 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:03.800 We did, so as soon as you. 65 00:03:03.759 --> 00:03:06.400 Go in there last night, they charged us fifty dollars 66 00:03:06.400 --> 00:03:10.759 to park there. I paid cash, right, and the guy began. 67 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:15.000 And then he said, I didn't realize that Wendy's. I 68 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:18.840 didn't realize that Wendy's allows people to park there for concerts, 69 00:03:18.919 --> 00:03:22.039 so it was actually open for concert parking. 70 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:25.199 Correct, And they charged tool So. 71 00:03:25.199 --> 00:03:27.319 That later very close to the venue, and me and 72 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:29.039 my friend wanted to be close because. 73 00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:30.439 We have thirteen year old daughters, you know. 74 00:03:31.479 --> 00:03:35.159 Okay, so we paid them. We got done with a concert, 75 00:03:35.280 --> 00:03:36.240 went right out right. 76 00:03:36.360 --> 00:03:37.560 My car was gone. 77 00:03:37.960 --> 00:03:40.159 I got really worried because I have a Kia Sorrento, 78 00:03:40.280 --> 00:03:42.840 so I was almost thinking maybe it got stolen because 79 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:45.960 of all the the theft with it. But I called 80 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:48.759 the tow truck company and they towed my car and 81 00:03:48.919 --> 00:03:51.879 then looking into this more, this has been an ongoing 82 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:55.400 situation for years at this Wendy's and this tow truck 83 00:03:55.439 --> 00:03:59.319 company before it was Wyat Towing, And just. 84 00:03:59.599 --> 00:04:02.199 Why did they do it? If you paid, Carly, I 85 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:05.919 don't understand why did they do it? 86 00:04:05.919 --> 00:04:07.680 It's a big scam, Tom. 87 00:04:07.319 --> 00:04:10.039 Like from looking at all these things on Reddit that 88 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:12.479 looks like the news even broadcast of this. 89 00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:15.960 Whole situation, Carley, I got a few questions, right toeing. 90 00:04:16.279 --> 00:04:18.600 Listen, I got a few questions. That's not the reason 91 00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:20.839 why it was shut That's not the reason why it 92 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:22.879 was shut down. There's all kinds of reasons. And it 93 00:04:22.920 --> 00:04:26.079 wasn't shut down. It was sued by the Attorney general 94 00:04:26.399 --> 00:04:30.680 for violations of the law. Okay, listen, Carly. That has 95 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:32.360 nothing to do with this. What I need to know 96 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:36.199 about this is, first and foremost, were you the only 97 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:36.800 one toad? 98 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:37.160 You know? 99 00:04:39.399 --> 00:04:40.560 But I know of yes. 100 00:04:40.959 --> 00:04:43.279 But when I talked to the Fillmore, I've talked to. 101 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:45.839 Two employees that the Fillmore are trying to get information 102 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:49.560 about the parking venue, right, and they told me that 103 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:52.240 this is a constant problem with them and that it's. 104 00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:52.720 Like a scam. 105 00:04:52.839 --> 00:04:54.000 This is what they do to people. 106 00:04:54.519 --> 00:04:58.120 Okay, now, I assure you they do not do this 107 00:04:58.240 --> 00:05:02.480 on purpose. They do not collect money and purposely toe you. 108 00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:06.360 That would be insane. We would get more complaints than 109 00:05:06.399 --> 00:05:09.639 you'd ever dream of. However, I don't put it past 110 00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:14.199 them for someone to do something wrong. I don't think 111 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:17.800 it's an ongoing organized thing where hey, come park here. 112 00:05:17.959 --> 00:05:22.000 But I need to ask a few questions. Does Wendy's 113 00:05:22.199 --> 00:05:25.959 or does anyone acknowledge that there was paid parking there? 114 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:26.920 Yes? 115 00:05:27.199 --> 00:05:29.839 Yes, there usually is at every venue parking. 116 00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:35.560 Okay, so obviously they're not Obviously they're not towing everyone 117 00:05:35.720 --> 00:05:39.680 from that lot. We have to figure out why did 118 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:42.839 they toe you, whether you agree with it or not. 119 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:44.639 Did they give you a reason? 120 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:49.279 No, no, They strictly said there was no ticket inside 121 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:49.920 of your window. 122 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:52.639 And I say, okay, hold on, that's the wait wait, way, 123 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:56.279 that's the reason they said there was no ticket. Were 124 00:05:56.279 --> 00:06:00.480 you supposed to display a ticket? I'm listen, I'm trying 125 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:03.720 to hook you here. I'm trying to get some reason. 126 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:06.920 Are you supposed to display a ticket? 127 00:06:07.519 --> 00:06:10.040 So two years ago when we parked for Dennie Levado 128 00:06:10.199 --> 00:06:12.879 and we're same parking lot, same Wendy's and everything. We 129 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:15.480 paid sixty dollars that day. We didn't get a ticket 130 00:06:15.519 --> 00:06:17.279 that day to even put in our window. We strictly 131 00:06:17.319 --> 00:06:19.120 parked there and we got out of Dennie Levado and 132 00:06:19.160 --> 00:06:19.839 my car was there. 133 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:21.839 That was two years ago. I'm not talking about two 134 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:24.519 years ago. I want to know this time when you parked, 135 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:25.560 did you get a ticket? 136 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:26.319 No. 137 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:29.399 He looked back at my license plate. He took a 138 00:06:29.800 --> 00:06:31.920 like a little shot of that, and he said, you 139 00:06:31.920 --> 00:06:33.600 didn't go to the back, and that's where your parking 140 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:34.639 will be. And I paid the cake. 141 00:06:34.959 --> 00:06:38.120 So no one, no one was given right. No one 142 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:40.920 was issued tickets for this parking lot. 143 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:41.720 No. 144 00:06:41.879 --> 00:06:43.800 I even looked to other cars that were parked there, 145 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:45.879 even when we got out of the venue, the other cars, 146 00:06:45.920 --> 00:06:47.720 and none of the cars had tickets on them. 147 00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:52.519 Okay, and that was the reason you were given. 148 00:06:52.160 --> 00:06:53.680 Yep by the toe company. 149 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:57.800 Yes, wow, wow, So. 150 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:01.399 Like this happening to a single mom can't get her 151 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:03.199 car out, can't get her kid to school. 152 00:07:03.399 --> 00:07:06.120 You know what, what is the name of the toe company? 153 00:07:06.920 --> 00:07:07.240 Okay? 154 00:07:07.279 --> 00:07:10.120 The Toe company is called Elite towing services. 155 00:07:10.759 --> 00:07:11.759 Uh huh. And then it. 156 00:07:11.720 --> 00:07:14.959 Looks like the parking attendant that do the paid parking, 157 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:16.639 they're a third party venue. 158 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:18.680 Right, they're called stop and park. 159 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:26.000 Okay, hold on okay, okay, okay. And it was called 160 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:27.839 stop and park okay? 161 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:28.240 Correct? 162 00:07:29.519 --> 00:07:31.399 Man? What do you make of that mark? 163 00:07:32.439 --> 00:07:34.800 I don't know, man, I'd be curious if we called 164 00:07:34.879 --> 00:07:37.600 up there right now. Do they issue tickets? Did they 165 00:07:37.600 --> 00:07:39.480 issue tickets to other people that night? 166 00:07:40.199 --> 00:07:42.120 I would like to tell you I have no proof 167 00:07:42.120 --> 00:07:43.480 of it because I paid cash. 168 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:46.199 You know, no, I get it. 169 00:07:45.079 --> 00:07:48.720 I flim flammed you out of it, like some bum 170 00:07:48.759 --> 00:07:51.240 walked up and we'll make it like one just taking 171 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:51.720 their money. 172 00:07:52.079 --> 00:07:54.000 I mean there was three parking attendants there. 173 00:07:54.079 --> 00:07:56.319 One was like yeah, but that guy, I understand that. 174 00:07:56.399 --> 00:07:58.399 But that guy could have pocketed your money, is what 175 00:07:58.439 --> 00:07:58.879 I'm saying. 176 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:02.040 Probably he had a stack of cash in his hand, 177 00:08:02.079 --> 00:08:04.079 and then he had like a little like credit card 178 00:08:04.160 --> 00:08:05.399 kiosk in his hand. 179 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:10.279 Also, so you paid cash and there was no receipt 180 00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:16.000 or anything. No, oh man, So how much did it 181 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:16.480 cost you? 182 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:17.000 Less? 183 00:08:17.040 --> 00:08:20.040 I'm learned for me? How much did it cost you 184 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:21.199 to get your car? 185 00:08:21.680 --> 00:08:23.839 So if I wanted to pick up my car last 186 00:08:23.959 --> 00:08:26.800 night or before eight o'clock this morning, I would have 187 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:27.680 paid three hundred and. 188 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:30.000 Eighty four dollars and seventy six cents. 189 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:33.559 Since did you pick it up? 190 00:08:33.720 --> 00:08:34.240 The clock? 191 00:08:34.759 --> 00:08:35.600 Did you pick it up? 192 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:36.639 The rate change? 193 00:08:36.759 --> 00:08:39.919 Did you pick it up eighty? Did you pick it up? 194 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:45.120 Did you pick up your car? 195 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:46.240 Yes? 196 00:08:46.279 --> 00:08:50.480 I did when this morning at eight thirty pm, eight 197 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:51.759 thirty am with my dad? 198 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:52.399 Okay? 199 00:08:52.519 --> 00:08:53.519 How much are you out? 200 00:08:53.519 --> 00:08:58.159 Completely out completely two hundred and eighty four dollars and 201 00:08:58.240 --> 00:08:59.000 sixteen cents. 202 00:08:59.039 --> 00:09:04.120 Okay, now you if you do you have anyone who 203 00:09:04.159 --> 00:09:06.440 witnessed you paying for that parking? 204 00:09:06.759 --> 00:09:09.519 Yes, yes, I have my friend Marlene that was in 205 00:09:09.559 --> 00:09:11.639 the car, the other adult, and then my two thirteen 206 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:12.480 year olds. 207 00:09:12.679 --> 00:09:15.200 Okay, and why would you lie about that? I mean, 208 00:09:15.320 --> 00:09:17.000 you know, what I'm saying is so old. 209 00:09:17.879 --> 00:09:20.399 I'm like, this is just so horrible, Like it just 210 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:22.000 makes you feel so horrible, you know what? 211 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:22.440 Anymore? 212 00:09:22.639 --> 00:09:25.039 No, listen, listen thirteen year olds sitting out in the 213 00:09:25.080 --> 00:09:25.600 cold weather. 214 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:29.159 Yeah, for the first time in my life. A few 215 00:09:29.159 --> 00:09:32.039 months ago, I had my car towed. It's a long story, 216 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:36.639 but man, it is a terrible feeling. You feel screwed 217 00:09:36.720 --> 00:09:39.120 no matter what. But I think in my case it 218 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:41.519 was legit. There was a sign, it was covered by 219 00:09:42.279 --> 00:09:47.200 there's definitely a sign. But here's the thing. I I 220 00:09:47.240 --> 00:09:49.360 don't know. It's because if we call, and I want 221 00:09:49.360 --> 00:09:51.559 to call and I want to ask these people, I 222 00:09:51.559 --> 00:09:54.360 don't mark. If she went to small claims court, it's 223 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:57.879 going to be would they take into consideration these witnesses? 224 00:09:57.919 --> 00:10:00.320 Do you think, well, sure the judge will in the 225 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:03.639 consideration whoever she brings in there, absolutely. 226 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:06.759 And what do you think, like, like, so the toe 227 00:10:06.879 --> 00:10:10.440 company just goes and looks for tickets basically, is that right? 228 00:10:10.919 --> 00:10:11.879 Is that what they said? 229 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:15.279 D's just so that they told me, and they're like, 230 00:10:15.320 --> 00:10:17.639 we didn't see any tickets in your car or any 231 00:10:17.799 --> 00:10:20.320 privileges that you would have parking in that lot. 232 00:10:20.519 --> 00:10:24.879 Okay, all right, So I don't know, man was the 233 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:27.360 Wendy's open, by the way, it was? 234 00:10:27.559 --> 00:10:29.840 And so we ended up going through the drive through 235 00:10:29.919 --> 00:10:32.039 so I can talk to somebody there and just get 236 00:10:32.039 --> 00:10:35.320 the manager's name or somebody that I can reach out to, right, 237 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:38.759 And he told me that pretty much. So the Wendy's 238 00:10:38.960 --> 00:10:42.039 is owned by somebody separately. And then there's a property manager. 239 00:10:42.120 --> 00:10:44.399 And then there's a third party venue, which is a 240 00:10:44.440 --> 00:10:46.000 stop and park people right. 241 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:49.279 Right, and probably Wendy's has nothing. Wendy's has nothing to 242 00:10:49.320 --> 00:10:49.759 do with it. 243 00:10:50.440 --> 00:10:52.600 Yeah, and she goes I've been told multiple times, and 244 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:56.360 she goes, They really, they just kind of they do 245 00:10:56.440 --> 00:10:56.759 this to. 246 00:10:56.720 --> 00:10:57.600 People all the time. 247 00:10:57.960 --> 00:11:00.679 I think what happens is this. I think they cherry 248 00:11:00.679 --> 00:11:03.600 pick here and there and keep money. I think it's 249 00:11:03.840 --> 00:11:06.519 probably one or two of the attendants. I don't think, 250 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:08.600 like I said, I don't think it's an organized thing 251 00:11:08.639 --> 00:11:10.759 because it wouldn't work. I mean, there would be too 252 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:14.279 many victims if they just kept towing cars. I think 253 00:11:14.320 --> 00:11:18.279 they cherry pick them and just make an extra fifty 254 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:20.600 bucks here and there. That's all I can think of. 255 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:26.080 I mean, so here's what I'd like to do, is 256 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:28.320 who's in the studio. I'll take care of it, Tom. 257 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:30.080 I just have one I have one question. 258 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:31.320 Yeah, go ahead. 259 00:11:32.399 --> 00:11:36.080 If anybody in our audience was there right last and 260 00:11:36.159 --> 00:11:39.679 right and got a ticket from the stop and park people, 261 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:43.399 please call and let us know, because if that's the case, 262 00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:47.000 then obviously this is a flip flam, like Mark said, 263 00:11:47.279 --> 00:11:50.360 and somebody just pocketed fifty bucks in cash. If he 264 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:54.039 had if he had a credit card reader, then obviously 265 00:11:54.080 --> 00:11:54.840 he couldn't do it. 266 00:11:55.440 --> 00:11:59.159 But if it was somebody from Stop and Park, who's. 267 00:11:59.000 --> 00:12:01.679 Just That's what I'm thinking, thinking that that they may 268 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:05.080 they might just keep some of the cash, because if 269 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:07.759 I choose to believe her, and I do, there's no 270 00:12:07.840 --> 00:12:10.200 reason she's going to make up this whole elaborate story 271 00:12:10.200 --> 00:12:15.600 and call us this morning. So listen, Carly, I'm going 272 00:12:15.679 --> 00:12:18.320 to have Doc call over there and just say listen. 273 00:12:19.080 --> 00:12:23.120 And then also if ask them just straight up if 274 00:12:23.120 --> 00:12:27.879 they issued tickets last night, So what does that mean? 275 00:12:27.960 --> 00:12:30.399 If they did issue tickets and she didn't get one 276 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:33.600 on her I mean, what how do we prove it? 277 00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:36.559 I think her friends, as Mark said, a judge would 278 00:12:36.600 --> 00:12:39.480 take into consideration that and I would definitely take it 279 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:42.320 to the next level of small claims court. Now, obviously 280 00:12:42.639 --> 00:12:45.559 you would sue the toad company or no excuse me, 281 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:49.399 I would say, the parking company is who I would 282 00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:51.879 sue if they cost you that by not giving you 283 00:12:51.919 --> 00:12:54.240 a ticket, And if your friends are there that can 284 00:12:54.279 --> 00:12:56.600 testify they didn't give you a ticket and you paid. 285 00:12:57.039 --> 00:12:59.600 But hang on, Carly, and I'll have Deputy Doc take 286 00:12:59.600 --> 00:13:02.600 a look at this three oh three seven one three 287 00:13:02.840 --> 00:13:06.240 talk three oh three seven to one three A two 288 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:14.240 five five go with a sure thing Denver's best rufer 289 00:13:14.399 --> 00:13:17.320 excel roofing dot com. 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And we'll have one of our news peeps 300 00:13:54.919 --> 00:13:58.960 on soon to talk about that Wyatts I was told 301 00:13:59.080 --> 00:14:02.799 was forced to sell, So we'll talk about that I 302 00:14:02.840 --> 00:14:05.360 did not Mark, Did you realize that I didn't realize. 303 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:08.080 I found out this morning from one of the news guys. 304 00:14:08.120 --> 00:14:10.759 He wanted to do an interview with us over the 305 00:14:10.840 --> 00:14:11.840 break for the news. 306 00:14:12.120 --> 00:14:15.879 Okay, so that's part man. And who was the guy 307 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:19.679 that we knew that was the owner. He was actually 308 00:14:19.720 --> 00:14:22.559 the managing partner I believe. I can't think of his 309 00:14:22.639 --> 00:14:25.960 name honestly, but he didn't seem like a terrible guy 310 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:26.559 at the time. 311 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:29.240 I think what happened is Denver got him and find 312 00:14:29.240 --> 00:14:29.799 the hell. 313 00:14:29.679 --> 00:14:30.559 Out of him. 314 00:14:30.960 --> 00:14:33.200 Wow, So he must have been doing things wrong. 315 00:14:34.679 --> 00:14:37.200 Must have been yeah, well yeah, remember they changed all 316 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:38.480 those towing laws. 317 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:39.200 Yes? 318 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:46.600 Right, Rose? What's going on with you? Rose? Hello? Hi Rose? 319 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:48.879 What's going on? Okay? 320 00:14:49.159 --> 00:14:51.240 I was listening to your broadcast. 321 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:53.279 Yeah. 322 00:14:53.399 --> 00:14:57.080 I have been trying to get out of my contract 323 00:14:57.879 --> 00:15:01.200 with waste Management every time time they overcharged me. 324 00:15:01.840 --> 00:15:04.679 Okay, can I ask you when you entered into that contract? 325 00:15:07.399 --> 00:15:10.320 I don't remember how long. 326 00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:12.159 Have you how long have you had their services? Do 327 00:15:12.240 --> 00:15:15.000 you recall roughly I'm going. 328 00:15:14.879 --> 00:15:15.840 To stay around. 329 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:18.679 I'm going to say five or six years or something. 330 00:15:18.879 --> 00:15:24.600 Okay, So do you Okay? Those contracts are not perpetual, 331 00:15:25.039 --> 00:15:28.759 so do you never renewed them? They just automatically renewed? 332 00:15:30.159 --> 00:15:30.399 Right? 333 00:15:32.360 --> 00:15:34.039 So I called. 334 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:36.159 When I called there, I said. 335 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:37.440 I want to get rid of my service. 336 00:15:37.879 --> 00:15:41.240 Sure, if you are in a contract until November? 337 00:15:42.080 --> 00:15:44.440 Now, why I mean, did they say that it was 338 00:15:44.480 --> 00:15:46.399 an automatically renewable contract. 339 00:15:47.639 --> 00:15:50.960 Yeah, but they called me on the phone, like when 340 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:57.159 I was calling them about it's okay, sure, they said 341 00:15:57.799 --> 00:16:00.679 it was due in November, and I have been asking 342 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:04.240 them to send me copies of everything. 343 00:16:04.720 --> 00:16:05.960 Yeah, but they can't. 344 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:08.200 They can't, rose I'll bet you they can't. 345 00:16:10.320 --> 00:16:15.279 Well, okay, so I can't even go through the bills 346 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:19.879 to tell you when they told me November. Anyway, So 347 00:16:19.919 --> 00:16:23.200 I send them a letter September twenty eighth, making sure 348 00:16:23.279 --> 00:16:27.000 that it would get there before November first, telling I don't. 349 00:16:26.840 --> 00:16:28.919 Think what they're about. What I'm saying is, I don't 350 00:16:28.919 --> 00:16:30.480 think you have to do all of that. I think 351 00:16:30.519 --> 00:16:31.919 i'd call their bluff. 352 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:34.480 And do what. 353 00:16:35.039 --> 00:16:37.200 Okay? First of all, how do they get payment from you? 354 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:39.440 I pay them? 355 00:16:40.080 --> 00:16:42.679 Okay. They do not draft any of your accounts or 356 00:16:42.679 --> 00:16:43.240 credit cards? 357 00:16:43.320 --> 00:16:45.679 Right, No, they do nothing. 358 00:16:45.840 --> 00:16:47.840 That's good. What I would do is write them a 359 00:16:47.879 --> 00:16:51.879 letter saying that you want to cancel the effective date 360 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:55.080 and that's it. That's it. Don't pay them anymore and 361 00:16:55.840 --> 00:16:59.399 hire another company. They would have to prove that you 362 00:16:59.440 --> 00:17:03.799 have an on going contract. The courts look really down 363 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:07.519 on these kinds of automatically renewable contracts, and I think 364 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:09.759 they can't show you one. That's what I think. 365 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:14.000 Okay, So. 366 00:17:15.720 --> 00:17:18.799 Yeah, I don't even remember signing a contract when I 367 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:19.319 signed up. 368 00:17:19.359 --> 00:17:21.880 I'll bet you you didn't. I never signed. 369 00:17:21.519 --> 00:17:24.799 One, and then they told me I was in the contract. 370 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:26.400 I'm like, I'm not in a cont No. 371 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:31.000 Deputy D. Deputy D in addition to being a deputy 372 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:34.799 here knows all about the sanitation business, and he's in 373 00:17:34.799 --> 00:17:39.640 the recycling business. D Do you do you think? Okay, 374 00:17:40.319 --> 00:17:42.119 do you know how their contracts normally work. 375 00:17:42.359 --> 00:17:45.559 Yeah, every contract I've ever seen for a residential trash service, 376 00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:50.160 no matter who the hollor is, has an automatic renewal clause. However, 377 00:17:50.480 --> 00:17:53.160 almost nobody signs those contracts because most of the time 378 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:54.720 the service is set up on the phone. 379 00:17:55.559 --> 00:17:57.440 So if they never come to the door and get 380 00:17:57.480 --> 00:17:58.480 a contract. 381 00:17:58.839 --> 00:18:00.960 No, no, I've never heard of that happening. 382 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:04.480 So so Rose, if they can't provide you with a 383 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:08.480 copy of the paper contract, it probably means one doesn't exist. 384 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:10.160 So I think Tom was right on. Send them a 385 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:13.599 certified letter. Say hey, beginning November one, I'm going to 386 00:18:13.640 --> 00:18:13.839 have a. 387 00:18:13.759 --> 00:18:15.680 New rusholders late down. 388 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:18.519 Please come and pick up your your trash cans. 389 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:21.680 Well, I've already done that. 390 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:24.599 They did send me something in the mail. 391 00:18:24.680 --> 00:18:26.400 It was a contract, but dude. 392 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:29.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on. Was it a contract 393 00:18:29.079 --> 00:18:29.640 you signed? 394 00:18:30.799 --> 00:18:30.960 No? 395 00:18:31.519 --> 00:18:36.119 Okay, well they don't have a contract you signed. Okay, okay, great. 396 00:18:36.359 --> 00:18:39.400 What does that contract say? What does that contract say 397 00:18:39.400 --> 00:18:44.680 that you got? Oh gosh, when was it drafted? When 398 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:45.960 was it drafted? What year? 399 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:49.839 That part? I don't know right now. 400 00:18:49.880 --> 00:18:52.039 Okay, well that's what I'm getting at. And if it 401 00:18:52.119 --> 00:18:54.559 was drafted in that year, were there ever any revisions 402 00:18:54.640 --> 00:18:58.160 or changes like in prices? Did you ever increase did 403 00:18:58.160 --> 00:18:59.720 they increase their price over the years? 404 00:19:00.759 --> 00:19:00.960 No? 405 00:19:01.880 --> 00:19:04.720 Oh, you've paid the same thing for five years. 406 00:19:05.559 --> 00:19:06.119 I think. 407 00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:07.440 So, I don't know. 408 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:08.400 I have a book keeper. 409 00:19:08.960 --> 00:19:10.880 Huh huh? Is this your business? 410 00:19:11.720 --> 00:19:12.920 Yes, it's my business. 411 00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:16.519 Hey, Rose, why are you stopping? I'm just curious their service. 412 00:19:17.640 --> 00:19:22.680 Because they keep overcharging me. They also there was somebody 413 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:26.279 somebody put a box in the dumpster and the lid 414 00:19:26.359 --> 00:19:29.599 wouldn't close all the way, so they charged me two 415 00:19:29.680 --> 00:19:31.359 hundred and fifty dollars. 416 00:19:31.680 --> 00:19:34.720 Wow, And then I thought that I got. 417 00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:37.119 That money back because I'm like dude, So I started 418 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:42.160 locking up the dumpster. Then I got another two hundred 419 00:19:42.160 --> 00:19:46.079 and fifty extra dollars charge for the fireman's dumpster right 420 00:19:46.119 --> 00:19:46.680 next to us. 421 00:19:46.720 --> 00:19:47.640 Okay, this was over. 422 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:51.960 Enough said, Enough said Rose. I wouldn't use them crows. 423 00:19:51.960 --> 00:19:54.279 Does the contract? They said, you have your signature on it? 424 00:19:54.400 --> 00:19:55.720 Or then one of your woes? 425 00:19:56.039 --> 00:19:59.599 She said, no, it can't be my signature because I. 426 00:19:59.559 --> 00:20:04.839 Never I'm not asking is there a signature? I got 427 00:20:04.880 --> 00:20:08.480 to watch these word games. Is there a signature on it? Yes? 428 00:20:09.119 --> 00:20:10.839 Okay, whose signature is it? 429 00:20:11.880 --> 00:20:13.680 Well, it looks like mine. 430 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:17.440 Okay, Rose, you're going to have a problem. Okay, when 431 00:20:17.480 --> 00:20:18.200 does it renew? 432 00:20:21.079 --> 00:20:23.119 Well, they told me it renewed and nobody. 433 00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:25.400 I'm asking, what does the contract say? 434 00:20:25.640 --> 00:20:27.440 I said, I don't even know where. 435 00:20:27.599 --> 00:20:28.960 Do you want to email it over to me and 436 00:20:28.960 --> 00:20:30.599 I'll be happy to take a look at it for you. 437 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:35.400 Yes, I do, Okay, email it three all three seven 438 00:20:35.440 --> 00:20:40.200 one three talk seven one three eight two five five? Gent? 439 00:20:40.599 --> 00:20:45.519 Is that his name? Gent? Hey? Gent? What's going on? 440 00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:47.240 So? 441 00:20:47.440 --> 00:20:51.880 I got a call yesterday where my sister lives in Layton, Utah. 442 00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:56.400 She was under the care of the home own nurse. 443 00:20:56.440 --> 00:21:02.759 They found her deceased in her Oh oh wow. So 444 00:21:02.920 --> 00:21:08.680 my question, sir is too if you have any resources 445 00:21:08.680 --> 00:21:12.079 to help us here. It's me and my younger brother. 446 00:21:12.680 --> 00:21:16.279 Okay, so your sister died in a nursing home in Utah. 447 00:21:16.480 --> 00:21:23.279 No, she was at her home. Oh, visiting healthcare nurse. 448 00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:24.400 I get her. 449 00:21:24.720 --> 00:21:30.000 Okay, I get it her. And this is in Utah. 450 00:21:28.880 --> 00:21:30.359 Late in Utah. 451 00:21:30.720 --> 00:21:32.799 Oh, sir, And what do you need? 452 00:21:34.480 --> 00:21:41.359 I need some information resource specifically like the links mortuary 453 00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:46.319 there is helping us to have her cremated. They're asking 454 00:21:46.440 --> 00:21:52.039 for certain vitals like social Security number. I don't know that, 455 00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:57.240 don't We have no way of knowing how to find that, 456 00:21:57.920 --> 00:22:00.200 sort of going there and digging. 457 00:22:00.839 --> 00:22:03.799 And that's exactly what you probably need to do. It's 458 00:22:03.839 --> 00:22:06.839 called many people have what they call a drop dead 459 00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:10.839 list or hit by a bus list, and that list 460 00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:14.480 should have everything you know. Not very few people do it, 461 00:22:14.599 --> 00:22:19.039 but they should. Let me give you some ideas. Hold 462 00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:21.640 on a second, right, I'm Tom Martinez. We have more 463 00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:24.079 coming up. Three oh three seven, one, three eight two 464 00:22:24.119 --> 00:22:27.920 five five waterpros dot net, waterpros dot net. Think about this. 465 00:22:28.359 --> 00:22:31.519 The best water systems, the lowest prices anywhere, and I 466 00:22:31.599 --> 00:22:35.119 mean it. You will never get this all whole house 467 00:22:35.359 --> 00:22:41.119 water softening and reverse osmosis drinking water about thirty one, 468 00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:44.400 not about it's thirty one ninety five fully assault three 469 00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:48.319 and ninety five dollars. You can't touch that price from anyone. 470 00:22:48.599 --> 00:22:51.519 You're talking about twelve grand or more from plumbers. Just 471 00:22:51.640 --> 00:22:54.000 check them out. Three oh three eight six, two, five, 472 00:22:54.160 --> 00:23:04.799 five five four. Go with a sure thing Denver's best 473 00:23:04.920 --> 00:23:07.799 roofer Excel Roofing dot com. You don't pay a cent 474 00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:14.039 until you're content. Wait time for an insurance checkup free, 475 00:23:14.119 --> 00:23:17.880 no obligation. In comparison, call Compass Insurance paying too much 476 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:20.920 your coverage at dozens of insurance companies find out now 477 00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:23.279 three all three seven to seven to one help. You'll 478 00:23:23.319 --> 00:23:26.039 think you're his only customer when you choose Frank durand 479 00:23:26.079 --> 00:23:28.519 the real estate Man dot com to list your home 480 00:23:28.720 --> 00:23:31.880 with Remax Alliance three all three nine two zero sixteen 481 00:23:31.960 --> 00:23:39.960 twenty two. Hi Tom Marchise, you got some details on 482 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:43.319 this the towing company tell you why it's towing on 483 00:23:43.400 --> 00:23:50.759 This comes from Channel nine KUSA nine News, published November twelfth. 484 00:23:50.880 --> 00:23:56.240 So this is yesterday and it's under new management. Now. 485 00:23:56.599 --> 00:24:02.359 There's no mention that the settlement forced them to sell, 486 00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:07.359 but they illegally collected fees, did unlicensed towing and other 487 00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:14.599 unfair deceptive practices according to the state, and they've closed up. 488 00:24:14.759 --> 00:24:20.119 It looks like someone else has taken over. And the 489 00:24:20.160 --> 00:24:23.119 state says the new owner will be bound by the 490 00:24:23.240 --> 00:24:28.799 settlement agreement, which is a million dollars and people will 491 00:24:28.839 --> 00:24:32.920 be getting checks if they were restitution checks if they 492 00:24:32.920 --> 00:24:35.240 were screwed by Wyatts. And I don't know. They must 493 00:24:35.279 --> 00:24:39.119 have a list of victims. And then Deputy d you 494 00:24:39.240 --> 00:24:41.359 found something, go ahead. Yeah. 495 00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:43.680 So I was reading the dever Post article about this 496 00:24:43.799 --> 00:24:47.920 I was published yesterday, and it mentions that the two 497 00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:51.440 guys from Wyatt's Towing they now operate a what looks 498 00:24:51.480 --> 00:24:55.000 to me like a private equit company called Firestone Freestone 499 00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:59.200 Companies in Greenwood Village. So I checked out their current 500 00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:02.200 list of investments in their own looks like a towing 501 00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:05.480 company called a TOE and then Peak Auto Storage and 502 00:25:05.519 --> 00:25:08.960 Peak Auto Auctions okay, and a few other companies. 503 00:25:09.519 --> 00:25:11.960 Do they own the new wives or the Elite? 504 00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:15.200 It doesn't say elite. I haven't been able to figure. 505 00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:18.920 I haven't looked up elite yet. But uh, but that's 506 00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:20.680 that's these guys went into private equity. 507 00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:24.519 Now, by the way, if you want to text me, 508 00:25:24.599 --> 00:25:27.400 you can always text me anything you want at my 509 00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:32.400 private Google numbers seven four seven nine eighty seven four 510 00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:35.440 seven nine nine fifty two eighty or the short code 511 00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:38.240 that iheartfuts out for the text put Tom in there. 512 00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:42.039 It's five seven seven thirty nine. Back to the phones. 513 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:46.359 And but but it sounds like, uh, yeah, they're in 514 00:25:46.359 --> 00:25:51.480 a world that hurts gent I found out some information. 515 00:25:53.279 --> 00:25:55.599 Thank you if you well, if you can get a 516 00:25:55.640 --> 00:26:00.000 death certificate. What I looked up was the death certificate, 517 00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:03.880 an identification from you, and anything you can show. I 518 00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:05.960 don't know what you would show to prove you're related 519 00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:10.079 to her, but Social Security, even the local office here 520 00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:13.559 can help you. You might want to call them and 521 00:26:13.559 --> 00:26:16.440 set up an appointment to see But there's some other 522 00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:18.839 stuff they mentioned. How old was your sister by the. 523 00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:22.839 Way, let's see about sixty four. 524 00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:26.200 When did she retire or did she ever work? 525 00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:30.920 I hope she could always work, than wasn't pretire. 526 00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:34.039 If you went to her last employer, they will have 527 00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:41.079 the records. Yeah, this understood, and they're you know, if 528 00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:44.240 you called, If you call and say, hey, I'm the brother. 529 00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:47.799 Here's the death certificate. We need the number. They would 530 00:26:47.880 --> 00:26:49.119 give it to you most likely. 531 00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:55.559 Okay, So, and the death certificate is in the works 532 00:26:55.640 --> 00:27:01.000 through the good mortuary. But I guess really what I'm 533 00:27:01.240 --> 00:27:05.240 calling about is like I listen to you every day, Yes, sir, 534 00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:12.720 you give attorney references for things like how to get 535 00:27:13.400 --> 00:27:16.880 power of attorney and right, who could help us sell 536 00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:17.720 that house? 537 00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:22.519 And that's going to okay, utah, Right, here's the thing. 538 00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:27.759 You're going to have to engage an a state attorney there. 539 00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:32.680 Oh, she or he or she will have to be there. 540 00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:35.559 But if I were you, you get prices up front, 541 00:27:35.640 --> 00:27:38.799 you pay by the hour. It should not be that complicated. 542 00:27:39.640 --> 00:27:44.079 Did she have a will? Now be married? 543 00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:46.440 No divorced? 544 00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:49.240 Does she How long has she been divorced? 545 00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:51.839 Oh like twenty years? 546 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:54.640 Okay, So there's no claim on her house? Is the 547 00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:56.960 house paid for or does she rent? 548 00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:02.240 Don't know she owned it, but I don't know the financial. 549 00:28:01.880 --> 00:28:03.880 Okay, you're going to need someone to do all of 550 00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:06.400 that research. Is this sudden? 551 00:28:06.519 --> 00:28:12.519 Because this very very like she was very active hiking, 552 00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:19.920 snow shoeing, and she had a shed flipped on her 553 00:28:20.039 --> 00:28:26.400 stairs and was doing home health care and therapy after 554 00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:29.480 the operation on whatever the injury. 555 00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:31.640 When was the last time you talked to. 556 00:28:31.640 --> 00:28:36.039 Her the day of the morning of the election. 557 00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:39.279 Do you want to try to get out of the 558 00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:42.519 Do you want to try to go out there? That's 559 00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:43.880 probably the best I. 560 00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:48.440 Mean that I'm putting together with my brother is for 561 00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:51.200 us to take a road trip and you know, put 562 00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:53.079 hands and eyes on things. 563 00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:55.799 Yeah, if you go through documents, you're going to find 564 00:28:55.839 --> 00:29:00.519 a lot of stuff. You will. Yeah, but that's probably 565 00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:03.440 the best thing. Or contact one of the former employers. 566 00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:06.400 Are you now, how did they How did the mortuary 567 00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:07.680 get your name in number? 568 00:29:09.599 --> 00:29:10.880 I don't know. 569 00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:14.960 Well you should ask him, Well, you should ask him 570 00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:18.119 straight out. Ask him because if there's a document and 571 00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:20.599 it says you're the brother, then that's going to be 572 00:29:20.640 --> 00:29:22.720 good for you to gain access to the house and 573 00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:25.680 to her employment records and all of that. So ask 574 00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:27.680 him that and then let me know. 575 00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:30.599 The morning good called. 576 00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:33.440 It was a shareff and he said he found my 577 00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:35.240 name and number and her phone. 578 00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:38.440 Okay, well that's good. That's going to be good. So 579 00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:40.599 you might need them to help you get access to 580 00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:42.839 the house. Call us back and let us know what 581 00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:45.079 you need. When you get out there, and we will 582 00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:47.680 ask our attorneys, but you need a license attorney there 583 00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:51.680 three all three seven one three eight two five five. Listen. 584 00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:53.599 We have a lot to talk about, and I want 585 00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:56.720 to talk about Denverregen dot com because they do a 586 00:29:56.759 --> 00:30:01.279 wonderful job. Denverregen dot com. They do hair restoration and 587 00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:04.880 I can say it really is working. I'm serious, it's 588 00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:10.000 really working. And uh, don't forget right now you want 589 00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:12.359 and I'll be telling you more about it. Eighty eight 590 00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:15.119 eight heating dot com for that deep clean for forty 591 00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:18.960 five bucks. But they also do high efficiency replacements. We'll 592 00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:23.960 talk about coming off go with a sure thing Denver's 593 00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:26.880 best roofer Excel Roofing dot com. You don't pay a 594 00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:33.079 cent until you're content. Time for an insurance check up, 595 00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:37.240 free no obligation comparison call Compass Insurance paying too much 596 00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:40.319 your coverage at dozens of insurance companies find out now 597 00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:42.880 three oh three seven seven to one help. You'll think 598 00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:45.480 you're his only customer when you choose Frank durand the 599 00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:48.200 real estate Man dot com to list your home with 600 00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:52.279 Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. 601 00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:57.079 Hi Tom, Archino here three O three seven one three 602 00:30:57.200 --> 00:31:01.839 talk seven one three eight two five five. We got 603 00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:04.599 room for calls. Anything on your mind. We have Brendan 604 00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:08.920 with us from Made in the Shade, Denver Shades dot 605 00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:12.000 Co seven zero four or five eight six, five sixty 606 00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:15.279 six quick thing for Brendan. And this is my question. 607 00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:18.759 They still do curtains because someone asks they they want 608 00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:22.000 drapes and what is the And I have no idea 609 00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:25.039 why they're asking this fire rating on drapes. First of all, 610 00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:29.160 do people still order soft goods drapes and curtains? 611 00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:30.400 Yeah, it's me. 612 00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:33.680 It's a it's very very popular. Now we're do what 613 00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:36.160 my wife is in the middle of about six different 614 00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:37.240 projects right now. 615 00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:42.599 Wait, actual curtains. Absolutely, Okay, I thought there was a 616 00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:44.079 move away from that stuff. No. 617 00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:47.079 I mean so a lot of times people will will 618 00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:49.759 put the window treatment up and then they'll layer. Like 619 00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:52.680 in our house we have we have automated drapery in 620 00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:56.319 our house and it's it's for like a layered effect. 621 00:31:56.599 --> 00:31:58.640 So we have solar screens on the windows so we 622 00:31:58.680 --> 00:32:00.559 can keep our view and knock down the glare. But 623 00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:02.240 when we want to watch a movie or we want 624 00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:04.680 it dark, we close, we close the drapery, so we 625 00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:07.160 have you know, all the options or whatever. 626 00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:08.680 It looks tremendous too. 627 00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:12.680 Really Okay, so what about fire ratings. I don't know 628 00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:13.440 why they're asking. 629 00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:16.319 It would totally depend on the material, whether it's silk 630 00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:20.039 or you know, linen or wool or you know, whatever 631 00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:23.079 it is. They do have some that are some of 632 00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:26.039 the materials are are like eco friendly, they're made out 633 00:32:26.039 --> 00:32:29.519 of recyclable stuff. There's like ratings like that. But then 634 00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:33.079 you get into commercial settings. There are definitely curtains for 635 00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:36.319 fire rated that are completely fireproof. 636 00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:38.000 What do you mean by automated? 637 00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:42.359 You press the remote and they open or close. Okay, 638 00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:45.079 And if you don't have the remote, like on ours, 639 00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:47.079 you can actually walk up to the drape, just give 640 00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:49.400 it a slight tug and they'll close all the way 641 00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:53.160 or open yep or open okay. 642 00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:56.599 So okay, So drapes are still in vogue. I did 643 00:32:56.759 --> 00:32:57.599 know they're huge. 644 00:32:57.839 --> 00:32:59.559 Yeah, they're going right now? 645 00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:04.359 Okay, do the window fashion comes and goes or not? 646 00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:07.200 It does? They always been steady. 647 00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:08.599 I think I think. 648 00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:11.039 There was probably a time where they were a little 649 00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:14.200 you know, not quite as popular, but uh not really 650 00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:16.839 they've been steady. Now, I would say colors and trends 651 00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:18.960 and you know, patterns and things like that are is 652 00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:20.680 what evolves, like everything else. 653 00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:23.160 What about plantation shutters? 654 00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:23.960 Very popular? 655 00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:26.440 We sell a ton of them, and you have those 656 00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:27.759 even battery operated. 657 00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:30.400 Yeah, motorized yep return, motorize yep. 658 00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:33.599 Very cool. We got more coming up on the Troubleshooter 659 00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:36.359 Show three oh three seven one three Talk three oh 660 00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:38.400 three seven one three eight two five five. Get you 661 00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:40.400 calls in now. You can call three oh three Martino 662 00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:42.920 as well three oh three six two seven eight four 663 00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:45.960 sixty six, and we'll answer your questions, solve your problems, 664 00:33:46.039 --> 00:34:13.039 take your complaints, whatever's on our mind. Go with a 665 00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:16.639 sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing dot com. You 666 00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:22.480 don't pay a cent until you're content. Time for an 667 00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:26.719 insurance check up, free, no obligation comparison call Compass Insurance. 668 00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:29.880 Pay too much your coverage at dozens of insurance companies 669 00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:32.559 find out now three oh three, seven seven to one help. 670 00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:35.360 You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank 671 00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:37.880 durand the Real estate Man dot com to list your 672 00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:41.079 home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero 673 00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:53.119 sixteen twenty two new need so you don't have. 674 00:34:55.719 --> 00:35:01.800 Run anxious as can No, shoot 's gonna coming, man, 675 00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:03.360 this is. 676 00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:08.519 The Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martino, Hey, Tom Martino here, 677 00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:10.960 Welcome to the show. Three oh three seven one three 678 00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:12.800 Talk seven one three eight two five to five. Yes, 679 00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:15.119 we're live and local today. Just want to say that 680 00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:19.360 it's Monday, December ninth. The first hour we had a 681 00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:21.960 pre recording on, but I'm here now and we're taking 682 00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:25.119 your calls live three oh three seven one three Talk 683 00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:28.639 three oh three seven one three eight two five five. 684 00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:32.199 We're going to talk about your problems, questions and complaints. 685 00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:34.679 We also have Brooke White with us, and Brooke is 686 00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:37.840 from Red Rocks, roof and Solar Bravo, Bravo. We love 687 00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:40.719 red Rocks. How are you doing? How's business going? Turn 688 00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:42.599 your mic come when you talk? Thank you? 689 00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:44.480 Yeah, everything's going great? 690 00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:47.320 Okay, our people? Is this a busy time or not? 691 00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:49.760 Probably holidays? A lot of people say, you know what, 692 00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:52.480 people put a pause button on the holidays. What are 693 00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:53.039 you finding? 694 00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:57.639 I think for residentially, yeah, but for businesses commercial, we're 695 00:35:57.679 --> 00:35:59.119 way busier than we've been all year. 696 00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:05.360 You've talked about this before, and again I'm not saying 697 00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:09.920 I'm not recommending it or not recommend neither. I don't 698 00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:12.320 know how I feel. But you do say there is 699 00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:16.800 a place with some of these solar credits and paybacks 700 00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:23.760 with grants for investors to help finance other people's solar systems. 701 00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:24.559 Is that correct? 702 00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:27.440 Yeah, depending on the location, they could get eighty four 703 00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:29.679 or ninety four percent of it covered, and then if 704 00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:31.440 they tie it with a grant, then they actually get 705 00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:32.519 paid to do the project. 706 00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:36.760 But what I mean is this as an investment lenders, 707 00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:44.639 weren't you providing offers to others who want to help finance? 708 00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:49.840 In other words, the company ABC wants a solar system, 709 00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:53.239 they're going to have a tremendous return on investment. Yep. 710 00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:57.679 Do you outsource that lending to maybe people who want 711 00:36:57.719 --> 00:36:59.360 to share in some of that back? 712 00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:00.280 Yeah? 713 00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:03.159 Absolutely, if somebody wanted to invest in that. Like I said, 714 00:37:03.239 --> 00:37:05.599 let's say the project was one hundred thousand depending on 715 00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:08.840 the location, they could get ninety four thousand of that covered, 716 00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:12.159 plus they get to charge the people for the power 717 00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:12.880 that put producer. 718 00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:16.199 What does the investor get or the lender for doing it? 719 00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:19.119 They get that okay, and then what does the business 720 00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:19.800 get So. 721 00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:21.920 They get a decrease, right, So let's say. 722 00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:24.480 That, so someone would have a solar system put in 723 00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:30.280 and someone else finances it. Yep. The person who finances 724 00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:33.360 it makes all the benefit as far as extra money 725 00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:34.920 on their investment, yep. 726 00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:38.679 But then the person who like the company who is 727 00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:40.960 on let's say their normal electric bill is one thousand 728 00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:42.960 dollars a month, they might drop it down to five 729 00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:44.880 hundred instead, so they're saving two. 730 00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:46.440 So everybody wins. 731 00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:50.400 But who owns the system the investor and how long 732 00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:51.880 does the investor own it. 733 00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:53.320 It's up to them in their contract. 734 00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:57.920 So investors can literally go out and say I'll install 735 00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:01.199 it for you, yep, and then they work with you yep, 736 00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:04.119 one hundred percent, and they own the system and get 737 00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:05.320 a return on their investment. 738 00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:08.639 They get a huge return on their investment. It's insane. 739 00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:12.039 And the business who has the solar benefits from a 740 00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:14.360 lower rate. Yeah, yep. All they have to do is 741 00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:15.519 say yes, yeah. 742 00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:16.119 They're required. 743 00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:18.639 So the investor is required to pass on at least 744 00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:22.519 a twenty percent savings. So over the twenty years or 745 00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:26.159 thirty years, depending on the contract, twenty percent savings annually 746 00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:29.480 can total up pretty big for the business. And then 747 00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:32.079 if you become the excel as the investor, just think 748 00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:33.119 about how much you're going to make. 749 00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:36.000 So if I went out as an investor, I could 750 00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:38.880 literally invest in ten solar systems and own them. 751 00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:39.440 Yep. 752 00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:42.519 I'm a power company. Yep, I'm a solar power company. 753 00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:46.039 As long as you as long as we set it 754 00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:48.000 up with net metering the appropriate way, you could do 755 00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:50.079 as many solar projects as you wanted to in a year. 756 00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:52.480 There's no cap on solar tax credits or anything else 757 00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:52.719 like that. 758 00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:57.360 Okay, what I want to know is this, though, do 759 00:38:57.400 --> 00:38:58.960 I ever get my principle back? 760 00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:04.239 So if you're a nonprofit, then you receive direct pay, 761 00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:06.360 meaning the tax credits turn into rebate checks. 762 00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:07.920 What do you mean a nonprofit? 763 00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:09.599 Just a nonprofit company. 764 00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:13.000 So there's a lot of like low income apartment complexes 765 00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:16.199 owned by nonprofits. Okay, they don't have tax credits, they 766 00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:19.400 have tax rebates and so they get a rebate check instead. 767 00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:24.639 I'm talking about a private investor. They go and they say, Brook, 768 00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:29.159 I want to invest in a solar system for this company. 769 00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:33.119 The company signs on and they invest in it. Yep. 770 00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:36.599 They invest one hundred grand. Okay, Okay, you say they 771 00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:39.360 get their money back, how so. 772 00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:41.639 It depends on their tax liability. If they owe a 773 00:39:41.719 --> 00:39:43.079 lot of taxes, because it's all. 774 00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:45.079 Tax tax credits, right. 775 00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:47.119 They get it back pretty instantly, So I would say 776 00:39:47.159 --> 00:39:49.400 within two years minimally they would have the principle back 777 00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:50.079 the principle. 778 00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:54.920 But they have ongoing utilities that they make money on. 779 00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:58.320 Yes, and if we set it up like net metering, 780 00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:02.000 which is what I would recommend, they get like eighty 781 00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:04.719 percent of whatever the utility company is charging. 782 00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:10.079 Okay, Then if you don't set it up for net metering, 783 00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:11.719 what's the other way of setting it up. 784 00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:14.239 I wouldn't recommend it because if you set it up 785 00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:17.239 that way, then you're making wholesale value instead of retail value. 786 00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:22.280 Okay, yep, So okay, that's very interesting. If anyone's ever 787 00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:29.400 thought about that you actually own a solar system. Now, 788 00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:32.280 it seems to me like owning a solar system may 789 00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:36.840 be more or less lucrative depending on where it is. 790 00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:40.119 Like if there's a if there's a landlord who owns 791 00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:48.760 a shopping plaza and charges for electrical buying, a system 792 00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:50.760 for that plaza might be better. 793 00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:54.039 Yeah, absolutely, I mean anything in Excel Territory. 794 00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:56.119 If you do it that way, you're going to your return. 795 00:40:55.840 --> 00:40:58.199 On investment's going to be significant because they are like 796 00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:02.280 the second highest utility company for price per kilo whatt 797 00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:04.400 hour in the States. Black Hills is going to be 798 00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:06.880 your highest utility. So it's really depending on what the 799 00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:10.760 utility charges as to how great your return on investment 800 00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:14.440 is because everything is based on what they charge. Interesting, 801 00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:17.000 so the more they charge, the more you're ROI. 802 00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:22.800 Oh, now I want to talk to uh Lee Lee. 803 00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:25.880 What's going on with you? Lee? 804 00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:27.320 Oh? 805 00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:27.960 Quite a bit? 806 00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:28.639 Quite a bit? 807 00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:29.519 What's happening? 808 00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:31.119 So? 809 00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:35.079 Uh Jeff Jelly because familiar of course he does. He's 810 00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:39.199 a crook. He's a lying, cheating crook. And you know what, 811 00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:41.199 I can say it and I don't mind it. He's 812 00:41:41.239 --> 00:41:42.800 a lying, cheating crook. 813 00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:44.760 That is correct. 814 00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:47.039 Well, and if you and if you would have done 815 00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:52.159 any research, you'll find I've posted on YouTube and LinkedIn 816 00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:56.679 and Instagram, and I've posted on Sleasbrigade dot com our 817 00:41:56.800 --> 00:42:00.639 site and everyone. So many people have found out about it. 818 00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:03.920 But you didn't, right, did you go to him? 819 00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:04.360 No? 820 00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:07.440 So I did go to him at the time, he 821 00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:09.760 was not using his full legal name. He was using 822 00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:16.119 a completely different name and pretending to be somebody else 823 00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:20.920 running ads on Facebook marketplace. Basically, I ended up having 824 00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:23.719 going on as I had a twenty fifteen Chevy store 825 00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:29.199 auto truck with a six ninety transmission. Okay, okay, he's 826 00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:33.480 running ads saying, hey, two four hundred and fifty dollars 827 00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:39.440 complete bio transmission is completely rebuilt. Yeah, five year warranty guarantee. 828 00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:42.400 And for me to give you that warranty on it, 829 00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:45.559 you have to let us install the transmission. I need 830 00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:48.880 half the money up front. I went ahead and bought 831 00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:52.039 the transmission to switch it out. This was in August, 832 00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:55.440 on the twenty eighth. He says, Okay, I hope you 833 00:42:55.559 --> 00:42:59.800 done in two days. Well, you know what, after Labor Day, 834 00:42:59.800 --> 00:43:04.000 you can come pick it up. All right, call him 835 00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:06.920 one to answer the phone. We're going past the week now, 836 00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:09.280 He keeps, well, what. 837 00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:12.320 Do you expect, he's a crook? What do you expect? No, seriously, 838 00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:14.440 I mean I hate to throw my hands up and 839 00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:17.320 say he's just a crook, but he's just a crook. 840 00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:19.840 That's what he is. 841 00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:26.920 And finding out from Johnstown Police lit over sixty vehicles 842 00:43:26.960 --> 00:43:28.880 have already been towed out of the location where he's 843 00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:32.639 at there, and he fails to notify the owners of 844 00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:34.880 the vehicle, let even know, Hey, the vehicle has been 845 00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:36.199 towed to. 846 00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:37.159 Let him know where it's at. 847 00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:39.199 And a lot of people have buried lost their vehicles 848 00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:43.159 to impound And this just recently happened on November tenth, 849 00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:46.400 and I just really found out on the fourth. 850 00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:50.039 So anyway, so where does this stand right now? 851 00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:54.440 My truck's still sitting at impound lot. I already paid 852 00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:56.360 to get it out, waiting for them to travels bring 853 00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:59.719 it to me. Transmission is basically in it oil pants 854 00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:00.480 miss from it. 855 00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:02.480 Yeah, my mission is basically. 856 00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:03.800 So what are you going to do about it? 857 00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:10.119 I filed a complaint with the Colorado State Attorney and 858 00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:13.440 basically he had mentioned to me that if there's anybody. 859 00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:17.760 Else, anybody else, my god, like the guy never heard. Okay, 860 00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:20.280 I'll tell you what you can do. Go to sleaze 861 00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:24.039 brigade dot com, look up Jeff Jolliffe and tell them 862 00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:27.079 they can contact me for any information they want. We 863 00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:29.039 have been trying and trying and trying and trying and 864 00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:32.480 trying to help these people get information and they just 865 00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:35.880 you know what, the truth is, people don't care about 866 00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:39.840 consumer crime, that's the truth. They don't give it. Damn. 867 00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:45.440 So the state attorney what he said, the only way 868 00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:47.719 they can convict him and bring charges on him is 869 00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:50.440 they need people to file a complaint with their office 870 00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:52.400 in regards to what's going on. 871 00:44:52.679 --> 00:45:00.280 They're liars. They're liars. I've had everybody call them. They're liars. 872 00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:03.280 So you can live in that dream world. 873 00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:06.239 Well he does that take to push ifire under their 874 00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:08.599 ass to make them actually get to it and do it. 875 00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:10.559 We get a bunch of people together. I got to 876 00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:12.239 go out. We'd have to reach out to all the 877 00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:15.400 victims and have them all go at the same time 878 00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:21.320 or in one letter and they all sign it. All right, 879 00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:23.840 that's really what we have to do. Look, I'm not 880 00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:25.559 trying to be coy. I'm trying to help you man, 881 00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:30.679 But this thing, I'm telling you it sucks. The guy sucks, 882 00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:35.920 and and yeah you don't. We just don't want to. 883 00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:41.000 We just don't want to give people the illusion though 884 00:45:41.639 --> 00:45:44.400 that if they call the attorney general. That's who you're 885 00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:49.280 talking about, right, the attorney general. Yes, yeah, yeah, I'd 886 00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:51.679 be lying to you, man, I'd be lying to if 887 00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:54.920 I said, call the attorney general and you'll get satisfaction, 888 00:45:56.239 --> 00:46:00.920 because look, consumer crime is the lowest on the totem pole. 889 00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:06.199 Number one on the crime list is politicians of the 890 00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:10.000 opposite party. That's number one. Not your own politicians, as 891 00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:13.639 we know by the election fraud that took place online 892 00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:16.800 and how she was not prosecuting. We're talking about if 893 00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:20.400 it's the other party and they're an official or a politician, 894 00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:25.280 they're number one on the crime list. Murder is way 895 00:46:25.320 --> 00:46:29.639 down at number ten, or in fact, consumer crime is 896 00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:32.760 way down at one hundred in priorities. I hate to 897 00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:34.599 be a smart ass, but I'm telling you the truth. 898 00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:38.679 And when it comes to car theft and you know, 899 00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:41.559 all kinds of stuff, shoplifting, none of that they don't 900 00:46:41.599 --> 00:46:44.760 care about that. They care about going each Our government 901 00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:49.920 has become a weapon of each party going after each other. 902 00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:54.679 That's what we've become in Colorado. Colorado has no law enforcement. 903 00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:57.719 I mean, honest to god, they don't, not for consumer stuff. 904 00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:00.320 I wish I had better news for you. If we 905 00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:03.199 can get a bunch of people on a petition, you 906 00:47:03.239 --> 00:47:05.199 know what, I'd have to go and get each I 907 00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:07.679 don't even know if I kept the I know I 908 00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:10.000 have the names and stuff. I'm not sure I have 909 00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:13.880 their numbers and contact information, but I would like to. 910 00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:16.880 Now if you go on what you should do is 911 00:47:16.920 --> 00:47:19.360 go to the Sleeves Brigade. Then you should go to 912 00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:21.519 next door, and you should go to Facebook and other 913 00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:25.559 places and gather names and addresses and phone numbers, and 914 00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:27.880 let's put some pressure on the state. I'll do it, Lee, 915 00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:31.440 I would do it. I'm sorry I have to give 916 00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:35.119 you this information, but this is what our country has 917 00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:38.840 become when it comes to law enforcement. There is no 918 00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:44.480 law enforcement when it comes to true consumer crime people. 919 00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:49.280 Do you know every single day people are losing their 920 00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:53.880 life savings online through crypto scams and other scams. Do 921 00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:56.079 you know who cares? No one cares. Do you know 922 00:47:56.119 --> 00:47:59.400 what they care about. They're banning TikTok. That's what they 923 00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:02.400 care about. That that's what our government's doing. So TikTok, 924 00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:04.719 by the way, is being banned. We're all going to 925 00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:09.960 be safer for it. So come January first, I mean, 926 00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:15.519 the courts actually refused to to block it. So it 927 00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:19.280 looks like TikTok will be banned in America. We got 928 00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:22.639 more coming up. Waterpros dot net the best water systems, 929 00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:26.679 the lowest prices anywhere bar none. Three oho three eight 930 00:48:26.800 --> 00:48:29.280 six two five five five four. This year in special 931 00:48:29.719 --> 00:48:33.840 has never ever ever been better. I'm telling you when 932 00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:36.960 I'm telling you, you get a whole house water softening 933 00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:42.400 system plus reverse osmosis drinking for thirty one ninety five. 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Hi Tom Martino here three 950 00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:56.679 oh three seven one three talks seven one three eight 951 00:49:56.719 --> 00:49:59.800 two five five. Let's go right to the phones and 952 00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:03.920 oh we have a question for Brooke Solar. Go ahead, Mike, 953 00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:07.360 let's see Mike. What is your question? 954 00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:11.280 Yeah, Hi Tom, thank you for taking my college. Yes, sir, 955 00:50:11.480 --> 00:50:13.719 He's great to hear you on and you know, you 956 00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:16.599 really make a really meaningful difference. 957 00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:19.679 In yeh man, that made my day. Thank you. So 958 00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:22.360 what's going on with solar? What do you have to absolutely? 959 00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:25.239 Yeah, no, I was just going to ask Brooke about 960 00:50:25.719 --> 00:50:29.760 some of the challenges with solar panel like the regulations 961 00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:33.320 and kind of the red tape kind of surrounding. 962 00:50:33.159 --> 00:50:33.840 Getting it in. 963 00:50:33.920 --> 00:50:39.079 I know, like different geographical locations have different regulations regarding 964 00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:41.880 like installation of solar panels. I think could you just 965 00:50:41.960 --> 00:50:44.360 kind of like fill me in on that a little bit? 966 00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:46.039 Yeah, of course, Mike. 967 00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:48.840 Are you interested in residential or commercial or you want 968 00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:50.039 me just a word vomb it both? 969 00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:54.119 I think both would be the best. 970 00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:55.519 Yeah, sure, no. 971 00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:58.719 Words, So for commercial in order to get the domestic 972 00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:01.760 tax credits and the tax credits that are bonuses, you 973 00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:04.360 have to adhere to the Buy American Act or the 974 00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:09.159 domestic content contents, and so you have to buy panels 975 00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:12.119 and racking and such from American made company. 976 00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:12.920 What does that get you? 977 00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:16.280 I'm an additional ten percent for that domestic content. 978 00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:18.920 Wait a minute, So you get a tax credit of 979 00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:20.199 a total. 980 00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:22.599 Of what like if the project was one hundred thousand, 981 00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:23.280 you get ten grand. 982 00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:24.239 It's ten percent of the. 983 00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:28.159 Project in addition to your normal tax. 984 00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:30.840 Credits that you would receive the thirty percent plus appreciation. 985 00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:33.679 What are you kidding me? No, that's a forty percent 986 00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:34.400 tax credit. 987 00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:37.639 Yeah, you get forty percent total. It's ten percent more 988 00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:39.320 than that's percent. 989 00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:42.280 That's if you buy your and do you have those 990 00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:45.159 systems with LOK with domestic products. 991 00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:46.639 I only do domestic product. 992 00:51:46.639 --> 00:51:48.679 Okay, So is that residential or commercial? 993 00:51:49.159 --> 00:51:53.119 It's for commercial right now. Residential is debatable. So some 994 00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:55.119 folks are able to do it, and I would just 995 00:51:55.159 --> 00:51:57.320 file for it. That's what I've been telling my clients 996 00:51:57.320 --> 00:52:00.239 this year to do so. And then the last piece 997 00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:03.400 is labor. So depending on how big the project is, 998 00:52:03.519 --> 00:52:06.679 bike your there's labor requirements, so you have to have 999 00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:11.400 so many apprentices and ratio to journeyman to master electricians, 1000 00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:14.119 and that gets a little bit complicated to talk about here, 1001 00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:16.480 but just know that there's different labor restrictions as well, 1002 00:52:17.559 --> 00:52:20.519 and then the jurisdictions, like you just said, that would 1003 00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:21.880 be your last piece on how to. 1004 00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:22.280 Get it in. 1005 00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:29.039 So working with locations like Boulder, Denver, anything with Dora, 1006 00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:32.039 like out with the state directly very easy to do 1007 00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:35.079 solar with. If you're talking about doing solar down in Pueblo, 1008 00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:39.719 they're they're very, very rough to work with. And then 1009 00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:42.400 as far as the utilities go, most co ops are 1010 00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:45.639 very welcoming to solar. They're very easy to work with. 1011 00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:50.360 Your black hills in your excel, which are public. That's 1012 00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:52.079 another kind of red tape piece. 1013 00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:53.079 So it really. 1014 00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:56.039 Depends on the location, the utility that you're working with, 1015 00:52:56.079 --> 00:52:57.760 and then also the size of the project for all 1016 00:52:57.760 --> 00:52:58.440 that red tape. 1017 00:52:58.480 --> 00:53:02.800 Any other questions, sir, Yeah, I was just gonna absolutely 1018 00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:07.679 quick because I wasn't looking at getting solar panels right now, 1019 00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:09.880 but really just more of trying to get some more 1020 00:53:09.920 --> 00:53:12.880 information on them. But I know they tend to last 1021 00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:15.880 like twenty four to twenty five years typically, But is 1022 00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:19.960 that a fair estimation of how long they last before 1023 00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:21.840 they have to be replaced? Twenty five to. 1024 00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:25.760 Maybe not everything. I don't know if everything lasts twenty 1025 00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:28.440 five or thirty I don't know, Brooke, What tell me your. 1026 00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:31.280 Panels are gonna last like thirty five forty fifty years? 1027 00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:34.039 Honestly, the solar panels don't get destroyed, right. 1028 00:53:33.960 --> 00:53:35.320 Yeah, but the inverter. 1029 00:53:35.480 --> 00:53:37.800 You're gonna have to swap out the inverter every ten 1030 00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:40.920 of fifteen years. Other than that, the wire will last forever. 1031 00:53:41.079 --> 00:53:43.000 Yeah, and so what else is there? That's it? 1032 00:53:43.039 --> 00:53:45.519 That's it, Just the inverter every ten to fifteen years, all. 1033 00:53:45.480 --> 00:53:47.920 Right, thank you? Three oh three seven one three talks 1034 00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:50.440 seven one three eight two five five. By the way, 1035 00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:52.960 Frank three had the real estate man. You want to 1036 00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:55.480 know what your house will sell for, He'll tell you 1037 00:53:55.719 --> 00:53:58.519 almost to a certainty, after thirty years of experience. Now 1038 00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:01.159 this is not an appraisal. Let's bet it's what Frank 1039 00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:05.239 can sell things for based on his experience supplying demand 1040 00:54:05.360 --> 00:54:07.840 interest rate your neighborhood. The comps give him a call 1041 00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:10.280 for a free evaluation, no obligation. Three oh three nine 1042 00:54:10.360 --> 00:54:19.119 two zero sixteen twenty two. Frankarandreestateman dot com. Go with 1043 00:54:19.199 --> 00:54:22.760 a sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing dot com. 1044 00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:28.440 You don't pay a cent until you're content than time 1045 00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:31.760 for an insurance check up free, no obligation comparison call 1046 00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:35.159 Compass Insurance Paying too much your coverage at dozens of 1047 00:54:35.199 --> 00:54:37.840 insurance companies find out now three oh three seven to 1048 00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:40.719 seven to one help. You'll think you're his only customer 1049 00:54:40.760 --> 00:54:43.000 when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot 1050 00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:46.360 com to list your home with Remax Alliance three oh 1051 00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:52.239 three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino 1052 00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:55.079 here eight eight eight heating dot com. You're deep clean 1053 00:54:56.039 --> 00:55:00.559 and high efficiency furnaces and acs to say you thirty 1054 00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:04.119 and forty percent a month at absolutely the lowest price 1055 00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:06.480 for the same equipment. Three zero three seven seven zero 1056 00:55:06.519 --> 00:55:09.079 two seven seven six eight eight eight Heating dot com. Now, 1057 00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:16.760 let's talk to John. He has an issue that could 1058 00:55:16.760 --> 00:55:25.559 be a possible fraud. Hey John, what's happening? Are you there? 1059 00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:26.000 John? 1060 00:55:26.280 --> 00:55:26.599 Oh? 1061 00:55:26.639 --> 00:55:26.800 There? 1062 00:55:26.840 --> 00:55:28.639 Hold on, let me I'll pick you up here, bro 1063 00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:32.199 hold on, where are you one? Okay? Go ahead, John, sorry, Yeah, 1064 00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:33.519 I got you. Man. What's happening. 1065 00:55:34.880 --> 00:55:43.400 Well, this issue is a guy that I've worked for. Uh, 1066 00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:47.039 what he did was he had an order from the 1067 00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:49.960 fire marshal not to let people live in a building. 1068 00:55:50.519 --> 00:55:52.800 Now, hold on, hold on, you said, hold on. You 1069 00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:56.800 said you worked for him, But then you said something 1070 00:55:56.840 --> 00:55:59.800 about living in a building. So you don't live in 1071 00:55:59.800 --> 00:56:02.599 the building, right, not anymore? 1072 00:56:02.639 --> 00:56:02.960 I don't. 1073 00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:04.519 Okay, So you're. 1074 00:56:04.400 --> 00:56:06.039 Saying that's what I'm getting at, is. 1075 00:56:06.119 --> 00:56:07.880 No, I get it. I get I just needed to 1076 00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:11.039 understand what you were saying. Are you were a resident 1077 00:56:11.159 --> 00:56:13.639 in a building and you also worked for the landlord? 1078 00:56:14.760 --> 00:56:14.920 Yes? 1079 00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:16.960 What did you do for the landlord? 1080 00:56:18.760 --> 00:56:22.360 I installed two boilers, I installed heat throughout the building. 1081 00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:23.320 Did you do trading? 1082 00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:24.119 I had worked for him. 1083 00:56:24.159 --> 00:56:26.840 Did you do trading? No? 1084 00:56:27.079 --> 00:56:29.039 It was all supposed to be all for cash. But okay, 1085 00:56:29.079 --> 00:56:30.480 but the fraud isn't isn't. 1086 00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:32.159 No, No, I get it. I just wanted I just 1087 00:56:32.199 --> 00:56:34.159 wanted to get a lay for the of the land. 1088 00:56:34.440 --> 00:56:36.440 You worked for this guy, you also lived in one 1089 00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:39.559 of his buildings. Now tell your story, sir, go ahead, Okay. 1090 00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:41.679 Well, he had in order from the fire marshal not 1091 00:56:41.719 --> 00:56:43.239 to let anybody live in this building? 1092 00:56:44.039 --> 00:56:48.800 Why and and why and why? 1093 00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:51.360 They took the drop ceiling out of the of the 1094 00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:54.039 main part of the building, and without that drop sealing, 1095 00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:55.559 they didn't have the two hour burn through, so he 1096 00:56:55.679 --> 00:56:57.360 was required to get sprinklers in the building. 1097 00:56:57.440 --> 00:57:01.039 My got it. So so the landlord, actually the building 1098 00:57:01.119 --> 00:57:03.639 was condemned by. 1099 00:57:03.760 --> 00:57:06.360 The building wasn't condemned. They just had an order, a 1100 00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:08.920 stop order to desist from letting people live in the building. 1101 00:57:09.159 --> 00:57:10.920 Well after he received the same points, and was it 1102 00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:14.800 from the fire department, he got the stop order. Yeah, okay, 1103 00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:15.239 go ahead. 1104 00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:18.119 And after he got the stop order, he ran it 1105 00:57:18.119 --> 00:57:21.119 to like nine people, and he was trying to evict 1106 00:57:21.119 --> 00:57:23.880 some other people from from another part of the property, 1107 00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:26.960 but he failed at that. And what he did is 1108 00:57:27.000 --> 00:57:29.719 he ringed, he ranted a whole bunch of people rooms 1109 00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:31.599 in this building that he wasn't supposed to be renting. 1110 00:57:32.639 --> 00:57:35.280 And uh, and then turned around and called the fire 1111 00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:36.719 marshal and had the fire marshal come down there and 1112 00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:37.639 boot everybody out. 1113 00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:39.880 So wait a minute, he got about so he took 1114 00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:44.000 the money and then turned around and had them kicked out. 1115 00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:44.920 What are you kidding me? 1116 00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:47.400 No, I'm serious as a heart attack. 1117 00:57:47.679 --> 00:57:51.079 What so, so what did he do? He took money 1118 00:57:51.079 --> 00:57:52.079 from new tenants? 1119 00:57:53.199 --> 00:57:55.639 Right, he took money from at least nine tenuts that. 1120 00:57:55.639 --> 00:57:59.000 I know of, and hold on, hold on to okay, 1121 00:57:59.280 --> 00:58:01.079 and how what did he collect from that? 1122 00:58:01.239 --> 00:58:03.840 The fire Marshal coming to everybody out and then he 1123 00:58:03.880 --> 00:58:05.360 couldn't he dect anybody? 1124 00:58:05.440 --> 00:58:08.880 But oh my, wait, we'll wait a minute. Did he 1125 00:58:08.920 --> 00:58:12.079 rent to these nine people after the stop order? 1126 00:58:13.039 --> 00:58:19.320 Way after, way after and at least year after? 1127 00:58:20.039 --> 00:58:23.000 Oh wow, whoa, whoa? So we're going wait a minute, 1128 00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:25.639 a year late? So now hold on, now, this is 1129 00:58:25.679 --> 00:58:28.480 way old than John. Let's talk about this. When was 1130 00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:32.079 that week? You said a year later? When was the 1131 00:58:32.079 --> 00:58:36.360 stop When was this? Okay? The fire Marshal's order was 1132 00:58:36.400 --> 00:58:44.800 a year ago? Was it vacant during that year? No? Okay? 1133 00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:50.039 When when did he rent? Okay, John, please do me, John, 1134 00:58:50.119 --> 00:58:52.599 do me a favor. I'm only going to ask. I 1135 00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:55.320 just need some very basic facts right now, so I 1136 00:58:55.320 --> 00:58:57.360 don't need anything more than a word or two. So 1137 00:58:57.480 --> 00:58:59.960 here's what I want to know. The stop order was 1138 00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:03.199 a year ago, and right after the stop order? When 1139 00:59:03.320 --> 00:59:06.400 was the first time he got a new tenant after 1140 00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:07.199 the stop order. 1141 00:59:10.440 --> 00:59:13.400 Jeez, it was probably three or four months after that, Okay. 1142 00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:15.639 And then did he get the others right after that? 1143 00:59:16.639 --> 00:59:19.559 No, he got the other ones just past two weeks ago. 1144 00:59:19.760 --> 00:59:22.719 Are you kidding me? At And he never ever ever 1145 00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:28.119 satisfied the stop work order? No, never, So he can't 1146 00:59:28.159 --> 00:59:30.840 say he didn't know about it. This guy is just 1147 00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:31.360 a truck. 1148 00:59:31.480 --> 00:59:33.440 He well knew about it, and he defrauded the people 1149 00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:34.000 out of their money. 1150 00:59:34.280 --> 00:59:36.719 Yeah, and how much did he how much does he get? 1151 00:59:37.559 --> 00:59:42.320 How much does he? Okay, I got another question. I'm 1152 00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:44.719 not talking about this right now, you were I will, 1153 00:59:44.760 --> 00:59:46.920 I'll get to that. So the guy that he rented 1154 00:59:46.920 --> 00:59:50.559 to three months after the stop order, when were they evicted? 1155 00:59:51.880 --> 00:59:54.079 They weren't evicted. The guy died, okay. 1156 00:59:55.039 --> 00:59:59.880 The people that how long is the longest people lived 1157 01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:01.639 there before being evicted. 1158 01:00:03.639 --> 01:00:05.599 I'm one of the longest ones. The other one was 1159 01:00:05.599 --> 01:00:06.440 there for eight years. 1160 01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:11.599 No, you're not hearing me. Okay, there was a stop order, Okay, 1161 01:00:12.519 --> 01:00:18.960 after the stop order. The tenants he got after the 1162 01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:24.320 stop order, how long did they live there? Oh? 1163 01:00:24.400 --> 01:00:25.800 About three or four days. 1164 01:00:26.679 --> 01:00:30.400 That's it. Yeah. So the one that he rented to 1165 01:00:30.519 --> 01:00:34.519 three months after the stop order, he got evicted three 1166 01:00:34.599 --> 01:00:35.559 or four days after that. 1167 01:00:36.920 --> 01:00:38.760 No, the one he rented to right after the stop 1168 01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:42.920 order died. Then he got another stop order two weeks 1169 01:00:42.920 --> 01:00:46.280 ago from the fire Marshal and said he's violation the 1170 01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:48.239 stream got and he got fined three hundred dollars. And 1171 01:00:48.280 --> 01:00:50.440 he turned around after that and rented to these people. 1172 01:00:51.079 --> 01:00:53.239 And I told the fire Marshal and had him coming here. Everybody. 1173 01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:57.119 So, for the most part, then this guy recently, for 1174 01:00:57.239 --> 01:01:02.519 all practical purposes, it he it was recent that he 1175 01:01:03.199 --> 01:01:06.119 really got these nine people on the hook. 1176 01:01:07.199 --> 01:01:09.039 Yeah, yeah, it was less than. 1177 01:01:08.920 --> 01:01:12.599 Two weeks ago, and he knew he was going to 1178 01:01:12.639 --> 01:01:20.880 have him evicted. And my god, okay, I just don't 1179 01:01:20.920 --> 01:01:22.000 even understand it. 1180 01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:26.199 Well, there were some of them were outdoors when the 1181 01:01:26.239 --> 01:01:28.719 fire marshall showed up, and the fire Marshal asked him 1182 01:01:28.719 --> 01:01:30.480 if he was ready and if if he wanted to 1183 01:01:30.840 --> 01:01:33.320 them to come in now or come back later, and 1184 01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:36.119 he said, don't know, go in there now. Well, all 1185 01:01:36.119 --> 01:01:37.039 the tenants are in there. 1186 01:01:39.360 --> 01:01:44.920 This is wrong, man, It's very wrong. Okay, So did 1187 01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:47.400 you tell those people they were cheated? Did you stop 1188 01:01:47.440 --> 01:01:48.199 working for this guy? 1189 01:01:48.320 --> 01:01:50.000 He only were cheated because they were booted out right 1190 01:01:50.039 --> 01:01:50.760 after they were in it? 1191 01:01:51.159 --> 01:01:52.119 And where are they? 1192 01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:56.199 So I don't know that some of them are, but 1193 01:01:56.239 --> 01:01:57.840 I know at least five of them are. 1194 01:02:00.119 --> 01:02:04.039 So when he got the stop order, it definitely said 1195 01:02:04.119 --> 01:02:06.719 he was not allowed to have people live there. 1196 01:02:07.320 --> 01:02:10.280 Absolutely, and the fire marshal himself told him several times, 1197 01:02:11.400 --> 01:02:13.639 do you have but living in this building? You're in 1198 01:02:13.679 --> 01:02:15.800 violation of the fire code because you don't have sprinklers 1199 01:02:15.840 --> 01:02:17.320 in the in the main part of the building. 1200 01:02:17.880 --> 01:02:21.880 Do you have any of the any of the names 1201 01:02:21.920 --> 01:02:25.599 of these victims. I'm wondering why we haven't heard from many. 1202 01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:30.400 Okay, yeah, I've got some of their names. I've got 1203 01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:31.840 most of their names. As a matter of fact, I'm 1204 01:02:32.079 --> 01:02:35.960 I was the maintenance guy there. Oh my god, I'll 1205 01:02:35.960 --> 01:02:36.840 need everybody there? 1206 01:02:38.159 --> 01:02:40.760 Did you and was he was? He given a certain 1207 01:02:40.760 --> 01:02:43.239 amount of time after that stop. 1208 01:02:43.079 --> 01:02:48.239 Order no five days to being compliance or fined, and 1209 01:02:48.320 --> 01:02:49.000 he got fayed. 1210 01:02:49.119 --> 01:02:49.800 So his lamb. 1211 01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:50.760 Okay did it again? 1212 01:02:50.960 --> 01:02:51.239 Okay? 1213 01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:54.800 But did he evict the first time around? Did he 1214 01:02:54.880 --> 01:02:58.239 evict everyone and then start hiring than getting more people there? 1215 01:02:58.679 --> 01:03:02.079 No, not at all, he just ignore him. You let 1216 01:03:02.119 --> 01:03:02.599 everybody in. 1217 01:03:02.639 --> 01:03:06.320 There every so, oh my god, Okay, did he get 1218 01:03:06.360 --> 01:03:08.199 so he had I'm all evicted. 1219 01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:11.679 Recently then, just last about three days ago. 1220 01:03:13.400 --> 01:03:16.800 So how many So those nine new people were evicted 1221 01:03:16.880 --> 01:03:22.920 plus all the old tenants, Yeah, everybody. And he's the 1222 01:03:22.960 --> 01:03:25.559 one that called them people in that building and then 1223 01:03:25.599 --> 01:03:30.280 he's the one that called them yeah, well. 1224 01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:35.480 How many time as true, But the fact is that 1225 01:03:35.599 --> 01:03:37.920 he was overheard telling far Marcill going there now while 1226 01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:41.320 the tenants are there, What were you gonna say? 1227 01:03:42.039 --> 01:03:44.360 Oh, I just wont to know how many total apartments 1228 01:03:44.400 --> 01:03:45.000 you're talking about. 1229 01:03:45.119 --> 01:03:46.719 Yeah, that's a good how many total? 1230 01:03:49.800 --> 01:03:54.880 There's sixteen upstairs and three downstairs. 1231 01:03:55.760 --> 01:04:03.119 Nineteen apartments. Yeah, so there were nineteen tennants recently evicted. Yes, 1232 01:04:04.599 --> 01:04:05.559 is the building empty? 1233 01:04:05.679 --> 01:04:05.840 Now? 1234 01:04:06.360 --> 01:04:09.880 John? What's this guy's name? 1235 01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:12.119 His name is David Clifton. 1236 01:04:12.639 --> 01:04:18.639 David Clifton. Tell me about David Clifton ministries. Whoa, whoa, whoa, 1237 01:04:18.679 --> 01:04:22.079 whoa whoa David Clifton ministries. 1238 01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:27.719 Yeah, come on, I thought you might be interested in this. 1239 01:04:28.639 --> 01:04:32.639 Do you have a phone number for David Clifton? Yeah, okay, 1240 01:04:32.679 --> 01:04:34.679 who wants it? Guys who wants him? To call him? 1241 01:04:34.760 --> 01:04:36.760 Right now? Hold on, don't give the number on the air, 1242 01:04:37.920 --> 01:04:41.519 Deputy d hold on, we got to call this guy. 1243 01:04:41.800 --> 01:04:45.280 Come on, and then we need John's information. Get John's 1244 01:04:45.320 --> 01:04:55.000 information for Deputy d Holy crap. Go with a sure 1245 01:04:55.119 --> 01:04:58.519 thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing dot com. You don't 1246 01:04:58.559 --> 01:05:04.559 pay a cent until your ten time for an insurance 1247 01:05:04.679 --> 01:05:08.760 check up free, no obligation. Comparison call Compass Insurance paying 1248 01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:11.840 too much your coverage at dozens of insurance companies find 1249 01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:14.199 out now three oh three seven seven to one help. 1250 01:05:14.400 --> 01:05:17.039 You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank 1251 01:05:17.079 --> 01:05:19.480 durand the real estate Man dot com to list your 1252 01:05:19.559 --> 01:05:22.679 home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero 1253 01:05:22.840 --> 01:05:28.400 sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino here three oh three 1254 01:05:29.400 --> 01:05:31.880 seven one three talk three oh three seven one three 1255 01:05:32.079 --> 01:05:36.000 eight two five five. Welcome to the show. And remember 1256 01:05:36.239 --> 01:05:39.639 UH Compass Insurance will do your free insurance checkups three 1257 01:05:39.679 --> 01:05:42.360 oh three nine nine six nine thousand. Now's a great 1258 01:05:42.400 --> 01:05:44.679 time to do that. Make sure you're not paying too 1259 01:05:44.760 --> 01:05:47.360 much for coverage or you're not under insured. It's all free, 1260 01:05:47.480 --> 01:05:50.119 no obligation. Three oh three nine nine six nine thousand. 1261 01:05:50.679 --> 01:05:52.519 Mark Shmanski is our expert. I want to bring him 1262 01:05:52.559 --> 01:05:55.119 up for UH. Margaret's question. I think I might need 1263 01:05:55.199 --> 01:05:57.440 him for Margaret. Margaret, what is your question? 1264 01:05:59.199 --> 01:06:02.320 Well, it's just about hanging a door, and I really 1265 01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:06.760 don't need I don't think Mark's opinion, But anyway, I. 1266 01:06:06.840 --> 01:06:09.000 Have them on just in case because I don't know 1267 01:06:09.079 --> 01:06:10.000 much about hanging doors. 1268 01:06:10.039 --> 01:06:15.840 Go ahead, I have like inexpensive doors in my house, 1269 01:06:16.599 --> 01:06:19.760 and I hear the ad on I think on your station. 1270 01:06:20.119 --> 01:06:25.280 Sometimes they're going to put a better door in and 1271 01:06:25.480 --> 01:06:29.119 it's going to weigh more. Right, Okay, so can they 1272 01:06:29.320 --> 01:06:33.880 hang that heavier door in the same manner as they 1273 01:06:33.960 --> 01:06:37.199 have had the inexpensive light door? 1274 01:06:37.360 --> 01:06:37.599 Hunh. 1275 01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:40.519 That is exactly why Mark is on, because he's the 1276 01:06:40.559 --> 01:06:43.039 one offering that special. He'll come in and do two 1277 01:06:43.159 --> 01:06:46.599 for one on doors. Now, Mark, me let me ask 1278 01:06:46.679 --> 01:06:50.519 you something. The doors that you're installing. Are they solid wood? 1279 01:06:51.039 --> 01:06:52.239 Are solid core doors? 1280 01:06:53.039 --> 01:06:56.039 We do solid core doors. I mean we'll do hollowhen 1281 01:06:56.079 --> 01:06:58.480 it that's what a customerly wants. But for a few 1282 01:06:58.559 --> 01:07:00.760 dollars more you get a much better door, the salid 1283 01:07:00.840 --> 01:07:03.119 core And yes, they can go in the exact same hole. 1284 01:07:04.320 --> 01:07:07.119 We take your existing doorjam out and then we nail 1285 01:07:07.239 --> 01:07:09.599 these to your two vipours that are in your wall. 1286 01:07:09.679 --> 01:07:13.639 Of your house, and U it has your house. I'm 1287 01:07:13.639 --> 01:07:16.280 on handling the weight of the extra heavier. 1288 01:07:16.039 --> 01:07:20.360 Door, okay, So in other words, it will hang in 1289 01:07:20.440 --> 01:07:21.119 the same place. 1290 01:07:21.239 --> 01:07:25.480 Right, they're rebuilding, they're reinforcing it. I thought they would 1291 01:07:25.599 --> 01:07:25.920 have to. 1292 01:07:26.880 --> 01:07:27.159 Tom. 1293 01:07:27.360 --> 01:07:31.599 I have been listening to you since the seventies man. 1294 01:07:31.679 --> 01:07:37.280 When we were both young and spry. Margaret, well, I'm 1295 01:07:37.360 --> 01:07:38.559 glad you're still around. 1296 01:07:38.760 --> 01:07:41.719 Thank you, and I never miss you if I can 1297 01:07:41.880 --> 01:07:42.800 help it, Thank. 1298 01:07:42.719 --> 01:07:46.400 You, Margaret, Merry Christmas, Hey, Mark, A quick question for 1299 01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:50.360 you on this so so oh and by the way, 1300 01:07:50.400 --> 01:07:52.920 Margaret give her Mark's number three oh three six seven 1301 01:07:53.000 --> 01:07:55.760 nine eight five zero nine. What kind of doors are they? 1302 01:07:56.000 --> 01:07:57.960 Are they notty alder or what are they? 1303 01:07:59.280 --> 01:08:02.760 I mean, the most popular ones right now are truly 1304 01:08:02.880 --> 01:08:05.039 it's it's a man made door, and it's it's just 1305 01:08:05.119 --> 01:08:09.440 a solid We get them primed MDF wood that has 1306 01:08:09.519 --> 01:08:11.480 like different channels in it. But yes, we can do 1307 01:08:11.599 --> 01:08:15.559 alder doors also, and you can do birch, you can 1308 01:08:15.639 --> 01:08:18.159 do fur. There's a lot of different options out there 1309 01:08:18.239 --> 01:08:22.199 for you. But the popular urs just the prims. You know, 1310 01:08:22.239 --> 01:08:24.359 most people paint them white or black. Are the two 1311 01:08:24.399 --> 01:08:27.159 colors that we're painting the most of the ardentary doors 1312 01:08:27.199 --> 01:08:27.479 right now. 1313 01:08:28.119 --> 01:08:30.319 All right, but but are people doing any of the 1314 01:08:30.600 --> 01:08:33.800 uh natural wood looks? 1315 01:08:34.439 --> 01:08:37.079 Yes, but it's not as common as it used to be. 1316 01:08:38.079 --> 01:08:42.840 Oh okay, these these designers are saying that white is out, 1317 01:08:43.039 --> 01:08:45.960 and you know, but then white still continues to be 1318 01:08:46.079 --> 01:08:49.359 a white is a timeless, timeless look inside the house. 1319 01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:51.359 But you know, I think if you get you have 1320 01:08:51.439 --> 01:08:53.600 a certain type of house, and you already have a 1321 01:08:53.680 --> 01:08:56.600 lot of wood inside your house, older doors are beautiful. 1322 01:08:56.720 --> 01:08:58.319 I think it's the most beautiful wood to put on 1323 01:08:58.399 --> 01:09:01.159 the inside of your house. And they're reasonably priced. 1324 01:09:01.199 --> 01:09:03.840 Also, Okay, I have a stupid question, if you're gonna 1325 01:09:03.880 --> 01:09:07.560 paint it anyway, what's the difference? And I'm serious now, 1326 01:09:07.600 --> 01:09:10.039 and I'm asking it may be ignorant, what's the difference 1327 01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:12.960 between a hollow door and a wood door? I mean 1328 01:09:13.199 --> 01:09:15.159 the door that's up there? Now, what is up there? 1329 01:09:15.239 --> 01:09:16.840 Now that you're replacing. 1330 01:09:18.079 --> 01:09:21.399 Those hollow core doors, they just would you even open it? 1331 01:09:21.479 --> 01:09:23.319 They have no weight to them. And if you just 1332 01:09:23.439 --> 01:09:25.399 even like take a knuckle and just wrap on it, 1333 01:09:25.760 --> 01:09:26.520 it's hollowing it. 1334 01:09:26.960 --> 01:09:30.359 It's a cheap okay, So, and it's cheap feeling cheap 1335 01:09:30.439 --> 01:09:33.239 looking okay, thank you Genesis Total Series dot com. We 1336 01:09:33.279 --> 01:09:36.000 have more coming up on The Troubleshooter Show. Stick around 1337 01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:38.279 three oh three seven one three talks seven one three 1338 01:09:38.359 --> 01:09:45.960 A two five five Go with a sure thing Denver's 1339 01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:48.840 Best roofer Excel Roofing dot com. You don't pay a 1340 01:09:48.960 --> 01:09:55.399 cent until you're content. Time for an insurance check up free, 1341 01:09:55.560 --> 01:09:59.239 no obligation in comparison, call Compass insurance, paint too much 1342 01:09:59.359 --> 01:10:02.119 you're covering. We had dozens of insurance companies find out 1343 01:10:02.159 --> 01:10:04.880 now three oh three seven seven one help. You'll think 1344 01:10:04.920 --> 01:10:07.479 you're his only customer when you choose Frank durand the 1345 01:10:07.560 --> 01:10:10.159 real estate Man dot com to list your home with 1346 01:10:10.319 --> 01:10:13.640 Remax Alliance three all three nine two zero sixteen twenty 1347 01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:24.720 two Ripped News. You need advice so you don't have 1348 01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:29.439 come runs as we can. 1349 01:10:30.680 --> 01:10:32.000 Shooter's gonna help. 1350 01:10:32.279 --> 01:10:39.840 Come man, This is the Troubleshooter Show. Now, Tom Martino, Hey. 1351 01:10:40.119 --> 01:10:42.880 Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show. Three oh three 1352 01:10:43.199 --> 01:10:47.720 seven one three talk. That's the talk station number, and 1353 01:10:47.880 --> 01:10:49.920 we also have three oh three Martino three oh three 1354 01:10:50.039 --> 01:10:55.359 six two seven eight four six six. That is the 1355 01:10:55.600 --> 01:10:57.760 uh the the number of the number three. So three 1356 01:10:57.800 --> 01:11:00.479 oh three seven seven one or seven seven three or 1357 01:11:00.520 --> 01:11:02.199 three seven one three talks seven one three eight two 1358 01:11:02.239 --> 01:11:04.439 five five Now MARTINOZ three or three Martino three or 1359 01:11:04.479 --> 01:11:07.239 three six two seven, eight four six six. Let's go 1360 01:11:07.279 --> 01:11:09.840 to the phones. Let's find find out what's on your mind. 1361 01:11:09.880 --> 01:11:14.079 How we can help you. Now, listen, we got a 1362 01:11:14.199 --> 01:11:16.880 lot going on today, man, a lot going on today 1363 01:11:16.920 --> 01:11:19.920 with people getting screwed. In fact, I should probably take 1364 01:11:19.960 --> 01:11:23.560 that follow up real quick. You want to talk about that, okay, Well, 1365 01:11:24.079 --> 01:11:28.760 the accusation was some guy named David Clifton and David 1366 01:11:28.800 --> 01:11:33.520 Clifton Ministries was renting out apartments in a building and 1367 01:11:33.640 --> 01:11:37.279 it was condemned. Basically, the fire department said you can't 1368 01:11:37.319 --> 01:11:39.760 have people in a building anymore. That was last year. 1369 01:11:40.319 --> 01:11:43.960 Since then, he's he's continued to rent and he even 1370 01:11:44.079 --> 01:11:47.119 signed up nine new people, according to this caller. And 1371 01:11:47.279 --> 01:11:50.920 then then he the landlord, after collecting money from these 1372 01:11:51.039 --> 01:11:56.319 tenants nineteen tenants, called the fire marshal to have them 1373 01:11:56.399 --> 01:11:59.840 evicted so he could keep the money. Now, that's what 1374 01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:03.520 but we were told Deputy D looked into it. Deputy 1375 01:12:03.640 --> 01:12:05.359 D turn the mic on. 1376 01:12:05.840 --> 01:12:06.560 How do you turn it on? 1377 01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:06.920 Right? 1378 01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:07.119 There. 1379 01:12:07.199 --> 01:12:07.760 We just did. 1380 01:12:07.920 --> 01:12:09.720 Thank you, Thank you, Tom. 1381 01:12:10.279 --> 01:12:13.000 It's not what happened, isn't exactly what we were told. 1382 01:12:13.079 --> 01:12:15.800 I spoke with John the caller, and among other things, 1383 01:12:15.880 --> 01:12:18.199 he claims that the landlord, oh was in one point 1384 01:12:18.279 --> 01:12:20.560 three million dollars for all this work that he's done 1385 01:12:20.600 --> 01:12:22.520 in the building. Yeah, of course I looked up the 1386 01:12:22.560 --> 01:12:25.520 building in Lakewood. It's a huge dump right off of Callfax. 1387 01:12:26.079 --> 01:12:29.720 It's been populated and still is partly populated by people 1388 01:12:29.720 --> 01:12:32.159 who have no other option than. 1389 01:12:32.039 --> 01:12:32.640 To live in this. 1390 01:12:34.399 --> 01:12:34.600 Hole. 1391 01:12:34.680 --> 01:12:38.000 You know, I understand that the bulk of the population 1392 01:12:38.279 --> 01:12:40.800 defied the fire department's order to move out, for they 1393 01:12:40.880 --> 01:12:41.960 have no other options. 1394 01:12:42.039 --> 01:12:43.319 They're going to end up in the street in the 1395 01:12:43.359 --> 01:12:44.039 middle of the winter. 1396 01:12:44.520 --> 01:12:47.439 There are eight people and seven dogs that personally illegally 1397 01:12:47.520 --> 01:12:50.640 occupy this building. John's goal is to go to the 1398 01:12:50.720 --> 01:12:53.840 government and get this building condemned and get everybody booted out. 1399 01:12:54.319 --> 01:12:57.680 Here we are in mid December in cold weather. So 1400 01:12:58.880 --> 01:13:02.920 my point is, if we continue to pursue this now 1401 01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:05.000 I can call and I intend to call the David 1402 01:13:05.039 --> 01:13:08.199 Clifton Ministries and get their comment on this matter. But 1403 01:13:08.439 --> 01:13:10.560 if I pursue this with a fire department or the 1404 01:13:10.640 --> 01:13:13.880 government or anybody else. These people and dogs are going 1405 01:13:13.920 --> 01:13:16.359 to end up on call facts today. 1406 01:13:17.880 --> 01:13:19.159 So what do you think is going on? 1407 01:13:19.359 --> 01:13:19.479 Bro? 1408 01:13:19.800 --> 01:13:21.720 Just tell me what you think is going. 1409 01:13:21.600 --> 01:13:24.359 On is and I haven't talked to David Clifton, but 1410 01:13:24.399 --> 01:13:26.439 I'm going to in a few minutes what I think 1411 01:13:26.560 --> 01:13:26.960 is going on. 1412 01:13:27.479 --> 01:13:28.239 He is stretched. 1413 01:13:28.319 --> 01:13:30.920 Then he's trying to provide some kind of housing for 1414 01:13:31.039 --> 01:13:34.600 these people in whatever Dumpy has available, because that's all 1415 01:13:34.640 --> 01:13:37.159 the options these people have, and he's not going to 1416 01:13:37.239 --> 01:13:39.439 have any money to comply with the fire department order 1417 01:13:39.479 --> 01:13:42.119 to install a sprinkler system. Now, I'm going to give 1418 01:13:42.199 --> 01:13:43.840 him a call and I'm going to find out what's 1419 01:13:43.880 --> 01:13:45.960 going on, and then I'll provide another update. 1420 01:13:46.239 --> 01:13:48.239 But my point is there's a lot more to this 1421 01:13:48.399 --> 01:13:49.600 than we were told by John. 1422 01:13:51.319 --> 01:13:53.399 There's always more than we're told on the phone, don't 1423 01:13:53.439 --> 01:13:57.239 you think so, Tom, We get such a bias view 1424 01:13:57.279 --> 01:14:00.079 when people call in that that's what we do. We 1425 01:14:00.199 --> 01:14:01.439 get the other side of the story. 1426 01:14:01.880 --> 01:14:04.680 He's trying, in my view, John is trying to use 1427 01:14:04.760 --> 01:14:07.279 this as a leverage to collect one point through one 1428 01:14:07.319 --> 01:14:10.319 point three million dollars for the work ninety. 1429 01:14:11.319 --> 01:14:13.800 He had an extra grind, so so I get what 1430 01:14:13.880 --> 01:14:17.319 you're saying. So it could be that this minister is 1431 01:14:17.439 --> 01:14:20.279 trying to keep this dump alive for homeless people and 1432 01:14:20.560 --> 01:14:23.520 people who can hardly afford rent. It sounds it could be. 1433 01:14:23.680 --> 01:14:25.199 Yeah, let me get his side of the story. 1434 01:14:25.279 --> 01:14:29.760 I'm gonna step outside and call him again, all right, 1435 01:14:30.119 --> 01:14:31.760 and I'll provide another update when you're ready. 1436 01:14:32.359 --> 01:14:32.680 Thank you. 1437 01:14:32.840 --> 01:14:34.760 Let's you know what we can do is figure it 1438 01:14:34.800 --> 01:14:38.399 out the best way we can uh, and uh stay 1439 01:14:38.479 --> 01:14:40.199 tuned for that, and I'll go back to the phones. 1440 01:14:40.239 --> 01:14:43.960 Thank you. Three all three seven one three talk three 1441 01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:47.079 all three seven to one three eight two five five? 1442 01:14:48.680 --> 01:14:50.960 And where was he? Is he still on or not? 1443 01:14:51.199 --> 01:14:51.960 He's not still on? 1444 01:14:52.159 --> 01:14:52.279 Right? 1445 01:14:52.359 --> 01:14:52.399 No? 1446 01:14:52.520 --> 01:14:54.159 Okay, So let's go to Tom. 1447 01:14:54.840 --> 01:14:54.920 Uh. 1448 01:14:55.239 --> 01:14:57.399 Tom, what's going on with you? Tom? Welcome? 1449 01:14:58.840 --> 01:14:59.399 Hi Tom? 1450 01:14:59.640 --> 01:15:00.560 Hey, what's happening? 1451 01:15:01.800 --> 01:15:05.680 I had a scooter delivered from New Jersey last week. 1452 01:15:05.920 --> 01:15:09.359 Now this scooter was it ordered and delivered from that 1453 01:15:09.520 --> 01:15:12.479 New Jersey company or was it ordered on Amazon or something? 1454 01:15:13.760 --> 01:15:17.880 No, it's it came from a company called cycle Gear 1455 01:15:17.960 --> 01:15:21.560 who sells use scooters. So it had twelve hundred miles. 1456 01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:25.199 So I used scooter and is it a mobility scooter 1457 01:15:25.520 --> 01:15:28.920 or is it a recreational school, you know, transportation scooter. 1458 01:15:29.640 --> 01:15:33.800 Yeah, it's technically a motorcycle. It's a Pazzio BV four hundred, 1459 01:15:34.600 --> 01:15:35.840 very nice Italican scooter. 1460 01:15:36.199 --> 01:15:39.000 Okay, so it was delivered from a company. 1461 01:15:40.520 --> 01:15:43.600 From a company called Psychologic, which okay. 1462 01:15:44.439 --> 01:15:46.800 I like that Psychologic. Wow, that's cool. 1463 01:15:47.880 --> 01:15:50.279 I'm sorry, that's wrong it cycle Gear. I think they're 1464 01:15:50.319 --> 01:15:51.399 called the company. 1465 01:15:51.640 --> 01:15:53.800 Hell, we ought to make a company Psychologic. 1466 01:15:54.640 --> 01:15:55.399 You made that up? 1467 01:15:58.279 --> 01:15:59.560 I have cognitive issues. 1468 01:15:59.640 --> 01:16:04.800 Sorry, No, I'm serious cycles selling cycles called logic. Cycle 1469 01:16:04.960 --> 01:16:07.159 Logic would be a great name for a company. 1470 01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:09.399 Yeah, I agree, I like names. 1471 01:16:09.479 --> 01:16:12.960 Anyway, go ahead, what's going on with cycle Gear that 1472 01:16:13.600 --> 01:16:15.960 The issue I have is with a company called tempest 1473 01:16:16.119 --> 01:16:18.119 Logics out of California. 1474 01:16:18.319 --> 01:16:22.279 They are who I contacted the shipping with and they're 1475 01:16:22.319 --> 01:16:22.760 in life. 1476 01:16:23.039 --> 01:16:27.399 Oh so wait a minute, So cycle Gear did not 1477 01:16:27.720 --> 01:16:31.920 do the shipping. They just sold you the thing, yep. 1478 01:16:32.159 --> 01:16:34.319 Yeah, and who. 1479 01:16:34.520 --> 01:16:37.319 Okay, so you bought the used scooter? Who told you 1480 01:16:37.439 --> 01:16:40.239 to use the other one to deliver it? 1481 01:16:40.359 --> 01:16:45.079 I had used tempest Logics before. 1482 01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:48.319 Okay, so tempest Logics was your choice? 1483 01:16:50.359 --> 01:16:50.720 Correct? 1484 01:16:51.000 --> 01:16:52.199 Okay, they picked it up. 1485 01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:57.279 Okay, so go ahead. Is it Logistics or Logics l 1486 01:16:57.359 --> 01:16:59.760 O G I X logics. 1487 01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:00.520 He got it. 1488 01:17:01.079 --> 01:17:03.600 So tempest Logics, what did they do wrong? 1489 01:17:04.840 --> 01:17:08.600 They, I guess, contract with the driver who I thought 1490 01:17:08.760 --> 01:17:09.640 was their employee. 1491 01:17:09.720 --> 01:17:11.960 But apparently none of that matters. None of that matters. 1492 01:17:12.039 --> 01:17:15.199 You contracted with tempest Logic and what happened to the delivery. 1493 01:17:15.479 --> 01:17:20.039 Yeah, the bottom line is that he damaged the bike 1494 01:17:20.159 --> 01:17:23.000 because on a scooter like that, you cannot use the 1495 01:17:23.680 --> 01:17:27.800 the twist grip you know, handlebar as a tie down location. 1496 01:17:28.159 --> 01:17:31.680 It's completely verboten and it did damage. And the part 1497 01:17:31.760 --> 01:17:33.960 that I need to replace is three hundred and fifty bucks. 1498 01:17:34.640 --> 01:17:37.920 So it twisted it and broke you know, it broke 1499 01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:38.680 the accelrator. 1500 01:17:38.920 --> 01:17:42.319 Okay, so the it was the throttle grip that he 1501 01:17:42.760 --> 01:17:43.520 tied down. 1502 01:17:44.399 --> 01:17:45.239 Yep, and it was. 1503 01:17:45.840 --> 01:17:49.560 It was rescheduled so many times, and the driver was. 1504 01:17:49.720 --> 01:17:50.279 Just a mess. 1505 01:17:50.920 --> 01:17:53.039 None of that matters. I don't care about the driver. 1506 01:17:53.199 --> 01:17:55.520 I don't care about the truck. All I care about 1507 01:17:55.680 --> 01:18:02.119 is you contracted with tempest Logics, and tempest Logics damaged it. 1508 01:18:02.399 --> 01:18:04.600 Why are they telling you to go after the driver? 1509 01:18:06.079 --> 01:18:09.239 Well not really, but they're just begging out of it 1510 01:18:09.399 --> 01:18:13.319 because I'm disabled and he came during a snowstorm, and 1511 01:18:13.520 --> 01:18:15.359 I told him that was the absolute worst time. 1512 01:18:15.520 --> 01:18:18.800 But it did anyway, None of that matters. None of 1513 01:18:19.239 --> 01:18:22.520 that matters that I don't I don't want to shut 1514 01:18:22.560 --> 01:18:25.039 you down, bro, But what difference does it make when 1515 01:18:25.079 --> 01:18:27.960 they delivered it, they damaged it whether it was sunny 1516 01:18:28.079 --> 01:18:30.920 or snowy. I mean, I know that you're trying to 1517 01:18:31.119 --> 01:18:34.600 build this case that they're a terrible company. You don't 1518 01:18:34.640 --> 01:18:39.359 need to. They damaged the throttle, now here's what I 1519 01:18:39.439 --> 01:18:39.760 want to know. 1520 01:18:39.840 --> 01:18:41.800 And I did not get back to them within the 1521 01:18:41.880 --> 01:18:46.119 twenty four hours because it was after dark during that snowstorm. 1522 01:18:46.479 --> 01:18:47.840 I couldn't even go outside. 1523 01:18:48.119 --> 01:18:53.960 Okay, you're now you're introducing something new. So you're saying 1524 01:18:54.520 --> 01:18:58.399 that they say they would have done something had you 1525 01:18:58.600 --> 01:18:59.840 contacted them sooner. 1526 01:19:01.760 --> 01:19:03.880 Yeah, they got out with the technicality because it was 1527 01:19:03.920 --> 01:19:07.119 over twenty four hours. I mean, it looked fine, but 1528 01:19:07.279 --> 01:19:09.720 you couldn't see the hidden damage until you drove the 1529 01:19:09.800 --> 01:19:12.039 bike and when I tried to drive. 1530 01:19:11.960 --> 01:19:15.000 It, of course, so there's no way of knowing. There's 1531 01:19:15.039 --> 01:19:17.159 no way of knowing if the shipper did it or 1532 01:19:17.199 --> 01:19:18.680 if you did it, is what I'm asking. 1533 01:19:18.840 --> 01:19:23.439 Yeah, no, cycle, dear, I think they drove it up 1534 01:19:23.479 --> 01:19:24.520 on it, so it was fine. 1535 01:19:24.800 --> 01:19:27.600 And this guy, how long did it take you to 1536 01:19:27.760 --> 01:19:30.720 contact the shipper? 1537 01:19:31.760 --> 01:19:33.319 I discovered it four days later? 1538 01:19:33.439 --> 01:19:34.479 Okay, contact here. 1539 01:19:34.960 --> 01:19:37.520 Here's what I'm saying, Tom, I believe you, But let 1540 01:19:37.600 --> 01:19:41.079 me tell you this. How do it's four days later? 1541 01:19:41.760 --> 01:19:45.880 How do they know whether you did it or the 1542 01:19:47.359 --> 01:19:49.159 tempest logics did it? 1543 01:19:52.119 --> 01:19:54.119 I mean, I have no way to prove it except 1544 01:19:54.199 --> 01:19:56.560 that it was strapped down in his trailer, which I 1545 01:19:56.680 --> 01:19:59.800 saw by the handlebar. 1546 01:20:00.279 --> 01:20:04.000 Right, But how do we call how do we call 1547 01:20:04.159 --> 01:20:07.840 tempest logics and say you broke it? And they say 1548 01:20:07.920 --> 01:20:10.840 what four days later? After the guy drove it around? 1549 01:20:10.880 --> 01:20:14.279 He calls us, No, I'm serious, I'm. 1550 01:20:13.800 --> 01:20:15.199 Not setting up my camera. 1551 01:20:15.359 --> 01:20:17.520 It was under the camera, not moved where the guy 1552 01:20:17.600 --> 01:20:19.680 pushed it up to the drive because I'm just too 1553 01:20:19.720 --> 01:20:22.720 disabled to do that. So it sat there for four days, 1554 01:20:23.119 --> 01:20:26.079 and then after the snow cleared, I finally got out there. 1555 01:20:26.720 --> 01:20:29.399 It idled. I started it so seemed okay. 1556 01:20:29.960 --> 01:20:32.760 Tom, you do understand, you do understand. I believe you. 1557 01:20:32.880 --> 01:20:37.000 Right, Yeah, it's it's an extenuating circumstance, I guess, is 1558 01:20:37.039 --> 01:20:41.760 my argument. And you know, companies just get out on 1559 01:20:41.880 --> 01:20:42.680 a technicality. 1560 01:20:43.119 --> 01:20:47.720 That's right, that's exactly right. If you paid, well, just 1561 01:20:47.800 --> 01:20:50.880 wait if you how much did you pay for the scooter? 1562 01:20:52.520 --> 01:20:55.039 Scooter was about five grands? 1563 01:20:56.840 --> 01:21:01.640 Okay, now you mentioned disability? Oh what kind of This 1564 01:21:01.840 --> 01:21:05.000 is a scooter for getting around, not for somebody disabled. 1565 01:21:05.039 --> 01:21:07.279 It's not one of these little rascal kind of scooters, 1566 01:21:07.399 --> 01:21:08.359 right right? 1567 01:21:08.479 --> 01:21:10.000 Yeah, I'm not that disabled. 1568 01:21:10.199 --> 01:21:17.760 Okay, I'm trying to figure out. See, doc Bo, what 1569 01:21:17.880 --> 01:21:18.319 do you think? 1570 01:21:18.600 --> 01:21:19.880 What do you think I'm looking at? 1571 01:21:19.920 --> 01:21:21.920 Four days later? I mean, what do you think though? 1572 01:21:22.000 --> 01:21:24.479 Four days later he says the grip's broken and he 1573 01:21:24.600 --> 01:21:27.399 saw it was tied down. The guy could simply deny 1574 01:21:27.520 --> 01:21:30.039 all of that. He could say it wasn't tied down 1575 01:21:30.119 --> 01:21:33.279 by the grip. I mean what I'm saying is I'd 1576 01:21:33.520 --> 01:21:35.319 like to help Tom, But how do we do that? 1577 01:21:35.560 --> 01:21:38.079 I think I looked up this tempest Logic. They have 1578 01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:42.600 great four point nine reviews. Tom, what did you if 1579 01:21:42.600 --> 01:21:43.319 you want to call him? 1580 01:21:43.600 --> 01:21:45.560 Yeah, Tom, I'd like to know what did you pay 1581 01:21:45.600 --> 01:21:47.399 to have Tempest Logic ship the. 1582 01:21:47.479 --> 01:21:48.279 Scooter to you? 1583 01:21:49.359 --> 01:21:51.960 Yeah, I've used it before. It was about seven fifty 1584 01:21:52.279 --> 01:21:56.119 for this one. Have you filed a plane show Yeah. 1585 01:21:56.159 --> 01:21:59.359 They they're generally nice, but in this case they're just 1586 01:21:59.560 --> 01:22:00.560 slipping out of it on it. 1587 01:22:00.640 --> 01:22:03.880 Oh did you call Tempest Lodges logic. 1588 01:22:03.880 --> 01:22:06.640 Logic with the customer service. That's as far I haven't 1589 01:22:06.680 --> 01:22:07.359 gone to corporate. 1590 01:22:07.399 --> 01:22:10.359 Well, you know, Tom, why don't I give them a 1591 01:22:10.439 --> 01:22:13.319 caucas That's what I'm thinking. They're a stand up company. 1592 01:22:13.359 --> 01:22:16.159 They guess. We could try to reason with him, But 1593 01:22:16.279 --> 01:22:18.800 I'm going to warn you, Tom, you were supposed to 1594 01:22:18.960 --> 01:22:22.279 contact them within twenty four hours and you didn't. I 1595 01:22:22.359 --> 01:22:27.720 would have gone over that whole scooter, would have started it. 1596 01:22:27.840 --> 01:22:28.479 I would have done. 1597 01:22:28.840 --> 01:22:31.720 It wasn't visible when he and even took pictures. Tom, 1598 01:22:31.800 --> 01:22:32.520 you couldn't see it. 1599 01:22:32.680 --> 01:22:35.000 And does it say in does it say in their 1600 01:22:35.159 --> 01:22:38.640 terms only if it's visible you have to report it 1601 01:22:38.760 --> 01:22:41.319 within twenty four hours? Is that what it says? Tell me? 1602 01:22:42.279 --> 01:22:46.279 They don't cover internal damage. So it was visible, but 1603 01:22:46.520 --> 01:22:50.039 you couldn't tell it because it was the two curved 1604 01:22:50.119 --> 01:22:53.640 cables you know, like tubes on the accelerator. Those are 1605 01:22:53.680 --> 01:22:56.760 worn off basically a brand new bike, and obviously it 1606 01:22:56.840 --> 01:22:59.720 was worn off by the strapping Tom that crushed the table. 1607 01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:03.960 Okay, Tom, dude, you mentioned I didn't mention. You mentioned 1608 01:23:04.000 --> 01:23:05.760 twenty four hours. Where did you read that? 1609 01:23:06.079 --> 01:23:08.159 Yeah, well that's what they told me. 1610 01:23:08.359 --> 01:23:11.039 So oh wait, wait, wait, wait, it's not It's not 1611 01:23:11.199 --> 01:23:14.760 written anywhere. It's not written anywhere. You know. 1612 01:23:14.840 --> 01:23:18.520 I don't know I have such cognitive in the screen time. 1613 01:23:20.479 --> 01:23:22.439 Okay, okay, Tom. 1614 01:23:23.079 --> 01:23:25.279 Let me tell admit they're out of it. They can 1615 01:23:25.359 --> 01:23:27.720 slip out of it. I understand. 1616 01:23:27.840 --> 01:23:30.640 There's no slipping. There's no slipping out of it. There 1617 01:23:31.039 --> 01:23:34.640 there is either they they broke it or they didn't. 1618 01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:37.840 But whether they want to admit to it, you have 1619 01:23:38.000 --> 01:23:42.399 to have some level of evidence. I am not trying 1620 01:23:42.520 --> 01:23:45.359 to argue with you. I believe you, but you have 1621 01:23:45.600 --> 01:23:48.720 all kinds of excuses why you didn't discover it in time. 1622 01:23:49.039 --> 01:23:52.359 That's fine, but they don't care about those excuses. You 1623 01:23:52.560 --> 01:23:56.680 understand that they don't care. What if it was six months? 1624 01:23:57.079 --> 01:23:59.279 I mean, you know what, I don't even know if 1625 01:23:59.319 --> 01:24:02.359 twenty four hours is valid. You mentioned it. Maybe it isn't. 1626 01:24:02.600 --> 01:24:05.279 I mean, who the hell says I think? Bo onught 1627 01:24:05.319 --> 01:24:08.239 a call we listen, we're on your side. We'd like 1628 01:24:08.359 --> 01:24:10.520 to call them and say, look, this guy's not going 1629 01:24:10.600 --> 01:24:12.720 to make up a story just for the hell of it. 1630 01:24:13.199 --> 01:24:15.079 Now they may say it was like that when it 1631 01:24:15.199 --> 01:24:18.760 left the place, right, then you have to decide. 1632 01:24:19.960 --> 01:24:20.439 The seller. 1633 01:24:20.600 --> 01:24:23.000 Oh okay, hold on, hold on, so wait wait wait 1634 01:24:23.000 --> 01:24:26.960 wait wait, So now we're going to decide cycle Gear. 1635 01:24:27.239 --> 01:24:30.039 If they say no, we didn't do it, and Tempest 1636 01:24:30.119 --> 01:24:32.680 says we didn't do it, You're going to decide to 1637 01:24:32.760 --> 01:24:36.560 believe cycle Gear and not tempest Logics, even though you 1638 01:24:36.760 --> 01:24:40.000 dealt with tempest Logics several times before and they have 1639 01:24:40.119 --> 01:24:44.760 excellent ratings. I'm not see you are deciding what you 1640 01:24:44.960 --> 01:24:50.800 want to decide if cycle If Tempest Logics tells Deputy 1641 01:24:50.880 --> 01:24:53.800 Bow that that they didn't break it, it must have 1642 01:24:53.840 --> 01:24:56.720 been like that, and then you're gonna say, oh, no, no, no, 1643 01:24:57.000 --> 01:25:00.520 cycle Gear says it was in good condition, and well, 1644 01:25:01.039 --> 01:25:02.640 how are you gonna decide who to believe? 1645 01:25:03.000 --> 01:25:03.239 Tom? 1646 01:25:03.399 --> 01:25:06.119 What I'm telling you is you have no case whatsoever. 1647 01:25:06.239 --> 01:25:08.800 That's what I'm really telling you. But we're gonna try 1648 01:25:09.319 --> 01:25:11.960 to help you, That's what I'm telling you. Hang on 1649 01:25:12.520 --> 01:25:16.720 and Deputy Bow will try to call them. He's done 1650 01:25:16.800 --> 01:25:24.479 some amazing things. Go with a sure thing Denver's Best 1651 01:25:24.600 --> 01:25:27.439 roofer excel roofing dot com. You don't pay a cent 1652 01:25:27.680 --> 01:25:34.439 until you're contenth time for an insurance checkup free, no obligation. 1653 01:25:34.479 --> 01:25:38.319 In comparison, call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage 1654 01:25:38.359 --> 01:25:40.920 at dozens of insurance companies. Find out now three o 1655 01:25:41.079 --> 01:25:43.479 three seven seven to one help. You'll think you're his 1656 01:25:43.680 --> 01:25:46.279 only customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate 1657 01:25:46.359 --> 01:25:49.560 Man dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance. 1658 01:25:49.840 --> 01:26:02.840 Three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi 1659 01:26:03.039 --> 01:26:05.720 Tom Martino, you're a troubleshooter. 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So we were talking about investing in 1669 01:26:46.760 --> 01:26:50.760 solar systems, and Brooks showed me an example of now 1670 01:26:50.920 --> 01:26:53.560 this is a long term investment to get money. You're 1671 01:26:53.560 --> 01:26:56.920 saying you can get the principal back pretty quickly. If 1672 01:26:56.960 --> 01:26:59.720 you invest in a solar system for someone else, you 1673 01:27:00.119 --> 01:27:03.159 own the system, they're obligated to buy power from you. 1674 01:27:03.600 --> 01:27:07.560 You can also net meter back to excel so and 1675 01:27:07.680 --> 01:27:11.319 then with tax credits you get the principal back pretty quickly. 1676 01:27:12.439 --> 01:27:15.319 I'll turn your mic on. Right there, there you go, there, 1677 01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:21.880 go there, you go go ahead. I see yeah, I 1678 01:27:22.039 --> 01:27:22.680 just clicking them off. 1679 01:27:23.119 --> 01:27:24.279 Go ahead, I'm winning today. 1680 01:27:25.359 --> 01:27:28.479 So, yes, you would get the principle back within two 1681 01:27:28.560 --> 01:27:30.840 years or less, depending on how many tax credits you 1682 01:27:30.880 --> 01:27:31.319 can receive. 1683 01:27:31.560 --> 01:27:35.119 Then. And then when it comes to the this is 1684 01:27:35.199 --> 01:27:39.159 what's important. When it comes to the payback, then it's 1685 01:27:39.239 --> 01:27:42.319 a return on investment. After that it's continual. 1686 01:27:43.239 --> 01:27:44.600 Yep, it's continual for as all. 1687 01:27:44.800 --> 01:27:48.119 What does it average per year on that. 1688 01:27:50.439 --> 01:27:55.199 It's going to depend on the system. But in this 1689 01:27:55.560 --> 01:27:58.800 example here, oh, give. 1690 01:27:58.680 --> 01:28:02.840 Me one approximately the return because you said it pays 1691 01:28:02.920 --> 01:28:05.960 over twenty years. What did you You extended it out 1692 01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:08.600 twenty years and then twenty years somebody who invested how 1693 01:28:08.680 --> 01:28:09.600 much would get how much? 1694 01:28:09.960 --> 01:28:10.159 Yeah? 1695 01:28:10.239 --> 01:28:14.039 So the project I'm talking about specifically, the gross on 1696 01:28:14.119 --> 01:28:15.680 the project is three point two million. 1697 01:28:15.800 --> 01:28:20.399 Okay, So that's three point two million. They would have 1698 01:28:20.560 --> 01:28:23.880 to pay that, yep, and then they'd get of that. 1699 01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:26.640 They're only out of pocket five hundred thousand of its 1700 01:28:26.680 --> 01:28:29.760 of all the tax credits, and then over twenty years 1701 01:28:29.760 --> 01:28:31.359 they'll make four point seven million. 1702 01:28:31.800 --> 01:28:36.319 Okay, but the five hundred thousand is part of that. 1703 01:28:37.159 --> 01:28:39.319 Nope, that was already deducted out of it. That's what 1704 01:28:39.359 --> 01:28:41.399 they'll profit, is the four point seven. 1705 01:28:41.720 --> 01:28:44.079 So how long will it take to get that additional 1706 01:28:44.119 --> 01:28:46.960 five hundred back after tax credits? Oh? 1707 01:28:47.479 --> 01:28:50.119 Like just one more year after the tax So the 1708 01:28:50.319 --> 01:28:53.359 system only has to be operational for two years and 1709 01:28:53.439 --> 01:28:55.319 then they'd receive that because they get another chunk of 1710 01:28:55.399 --> 01:28:59.119 it back the second year for depreciations and other items. 1711 01:29:00.079 --> 01:29:01.479 To get that principal back right away. 1712 01:29:01.880 --> 01:29:04.880 Really so truly, they'll get that two and a half 1713 01:29:04.960 --> 01:29:07.600 million dollars back in two or three years or three 1714 01:29:07.720 --> 01:29:07.960 or four. 1715 01:29:08.119 --> 01:29:10.399 Yeah, most of it's back in year one and then 1716 01:29:10.479 --> 01:29:10.920 those things. 1717 01:29:11.000 --> 01:29:14.359 Okay, that's so then after that it's all gravy. 1718 01:29:15.039 --> 01:29:15.239 Yeah. 1719 01:29:15.439 --> 01:29:17.720 Approximately, what what were you going to say? 1720 01:29:18.319 --> 01:29:20.600 Again, if it's a for profit company, it depends on 1721 01:29:20.600 --> 01:29:23.039 their tax liability because these are tax credits. 1722 01:29:23.279 --> 01:29:25.800 So if you're only paying no, no, no, I understand that, 1723 01:29:26.159 --> 01:29:28.640 I get it. But I'm talking about a regular for 1724 01:29:28.880 --> 01:29:31.800 profit person who wants to invest in a solar system. 1725 01:29:32.239 --> 01:29:36.359 They get tax credits, they get depreciation yep. After that, 1726 01:29:37.680 --> 01:29:40.720 what do they get Where does the money come from 1727 01:29:41.000 --> 01:29:42.760 for their return the building? 1728 01:29:42.920 --> 01:29:45.159 The building pays them for the power because they become 1729 01:29:45.199 --> 01:29:46.560 the new utility company essentially. 1730 01:29:47.159 --> 01:29:50.520 And what does that come out to be? Approximately? On 1731 01:29:50.640 --> 01:29:51.199 that system? 1732 01:29:51.760 --> 01:29:55.119 It's eighty percent of whatever Excel decides to charge. 1733 01:29:55.239 --> 01:29:55.880 You know what it is? 1734 01:29:56.159 --> 01:29:56.640 Normally? 1735 01:29:56.800 --> 01:29:57.199 What it is? 1736 01:29:57.600 --> 01:29:57.800 Yeah? 1737 01:29:57.880 --> 01:30:00.640 So right, like like in your figures there, how much 1738 01:30:00.720 --> 01:30:02.920 when you said they're going to make this much? How 1739 01:30:03.039 --> 01:30:05.000 much year one I gave? What do I get? I 1740 01:30:05.319 --> 01:30:07.479 need to know after I'm paid back? What do I 1741 01:30:07.560 --> 01:30:10.680 get every year? Approximately? 1742 01:30:10.880 --> 01:30:11.039 Yeah? 1743 01:30:11.119 --> 01:30:15.800 Absolutely so in this specific example. 1744 01:30:15.560 --> 01:30:18.640 Yeah, just roughly, you let me know when you have it. 1745 01:30:18.680 --> 01:30:21.039 I'm going to go to Stephanie. No, no, I really 1746 01:30:21.079 --> 01:30:24.399 want to know. Or let's see who's next, Stephanie. Stephanie, 1747 01:30:24.439 --> 01:30:26.119 go ahead, what's going on with you? Stephanie? 1748 01:30:27.119 --> 01:30:30.640 Hi, thanks for having me on tom So. I work 1749 01:30:30.760 --> 01:30:33.439 with a really lovely lady. I've been working with her 1750 01:30:33.560 --> 01:30:37.359 for about two years. Basically she is a single mom, 1751 01:30:37.399 --> 01:30:41.079 of three, The father and her ex now ex husband 1752 01:30:41.760 --> 01:30:46.600 basically abandoned her and her children. She's been left with 1753 01:30:47.359 --> 01:30:52.000 a mortgage payment and all of the bills. She's currently 1754 01:30:52.039 --> 01:30:53.359 working three jobs and over. 1755 01:30:53.960 --> 01:30:56.079 So when did the father leave? 1756 01:30:57.920 --> 01:31:02.359 He lefts right before I met her, so over two 1757 01:31:02.439 --> 01:31:02.840 years ago. 1758 01:31:03.680 --> 01:31:05.079 He just walked out on him. 1759 01:31:05.840 --> 01:31:08.880 Yeah, he just walked out on him as an issue 1760 01:31:08.880 --> 01:31:09.520 with alcohol. 1761 01:31:10.720 --> 01:31:11.680 Okay, I get it. 1762 01:31:12.520 --> 01:31:16.800 Yeah, so he hasn't contributed financial a at all. 1763 01:31:17.199 --> 01:31:17.680 Where is he? 1764 01:31:19.279 --> 01:31:20.399 She has no idea? 1765 01:31:20.920 --> 01:31:24.960 Okay, he just abandoned them, And so now she's left 1766 01:31:25.159 --> 01:31:25.920 with this house. 1767 01:31:27.039 --> 01:31:30.319 Yeah, she's actually now going to have to sell it. 1768 01:31:30.479 --> 01:31:32.560 So Well, whose name is the house in. 1769 01:31:34.319 --> 01:31:35.039 So Well? 1770 01:31:35.199 --> 01:31:35.439 It is? 1771 01:31:35.880 --> 01:31:37.039 That's like another situation. 1772 01:31:37.239 --> 01:31:39.479 It is under both their names. 1773 01:31:39.560 --> 01:31:40.920 She's not going to be able to sell it, and 1774 01:31:40.960 --> 01:31:44.039 he's going to want his money, right, I don't know. 1775 01:31:44.119 --> 01:31:45.840 I Well, she's not going to be she's not going 1776 01:31:45.880 --> 01:31:48.319 to be able to sell it if it's in both 1777 01:31:48.359 --> 01:31:52.920 her names. I mean, I don't mean to just confront 1778 01:31:52.960 --> 01:31:54.640 you with that right away, because what let me let 1779 01:31:54.720 --> 01:31:56.079 you continue go ahead. 1780 01:31:56.720 --> 01:32:00.640 Okay, Yeah, So she's she's trying to figure everything out, 1781 01:32:00.720 --> 01:32:05.920 but she's she's by herself. She doesn't have like parents, 1782 01:32:06.000 --> 01:32:08.760 Her parents are deceased, she's an only child, she doesn't 1783 01:32:08.800 --> 01:32:14.000 have any support, and so she's literally working three jobs 1784 01:32:14.079 --> 01:32:18.319 right now and she's just barely making ends meet. 1785 01:32:18.760 --> 01:32:21.239 And so I'm just reaching out to. 1786 01:32:22.760 --> 01:32:24.479 See if if there's help for. 1787 01:32:24.560 --> 01:32:29.000 Her, like for her for her kids. Like right now, 1788 01:32:29.079 --> 01:32:34.399 it's like school she's getting They are in situation based school, 1789 01:32:34.520 --> 01:32:37.119 so she is getting like financial assistance in that way. 1790 01:32:37.960 --> 01:32:40.319 She's in school. What kind of school are they in? 1791 01:32:40.399 --> 01:32:41.640 Are they in a private school? 1792 01:32:42.720 --> 01:32:44.119 A private Catholic school? Yes? 1793 01:32:45.119 --> 01:32:46.359 And how is she paying for that? 1794 01:32:47.920 --> 01:32:49.920 She has a lot of financial aid? 1795 01:32:50.239 --> 01:32:52.000 Okay, how are the kids? 1796 01:32:53.720 --> 01:32:57.159 So woman is a senior, the others a sophomore, and 1797 01:32:57.159 --> 01:32:58.239 the other one is a freshman. 1798 01:32:58.520 --> 01:32:59.880 Are they working the kids? 1799 01:33:01.800 --> 01:33:02.760 The senior is. 1800 01:33:02.880 --> 01:33:08.159 Yes, Oh that's this is sad. 1801 01:33:09.239 --> 01:33:14.319 It's really bad. She's literally working like seventy plus hours 1802 01:33:14.319 --> 01:33:14.640 a week. 1803 01:33:16.600 --> 01:33:23.119 Okay, listen, there's you know, we all know our social services. 1804 01:33:23.239 --> 01:33:25.760 I hope she has Medicaid for the kids or does 1805 01:33:25.840 --> 01:33:26.880 she have insurance for them? 1806 01:33:28.439 --> 01:33:28.880 She does? 1807 01:33:29.640 --> 01:33:30.760 Is it medicaid based? 1808 01:33:32.640 --> 01:33:35.159 So it wasn't, but she just found out that she 1809 01:33:35.520 --> 01:33:36.399 qualifies for that. 1810 01:33:36.560 --> 01:33:40.000 Yes, she's got to get that done. Immediately, right, No, yeah, she. 1811 01:33:40.079 --> 01:33:48.079 Does because our period so everything is this Friday. 1812 01:33:48.239 --> 01:33:52.079 So and that's right, it's called open enrollment. She needs 1813 01:33:52.119 --> 01:33:54.840 to get that done. Okay, good, So the medical thing 1814 01:33:54.960 --> 01:33:58.439 is major. What about food? Does she qualify for food stamps? 1815 01:33:59.680 --> 01:34:00.680 She she does? 1816 01:34:00.760 --> 01:34:03.039 Now, yes, she just don't all of that paper. 1817 01:34:03.079 --> 01:34:07.239 Excellent, excellent. Okay, So now we're down to what I mean, 1818 01:34:07.359 --> 01:34:10.640 I'm not saying that's everything, but no, right, we got 1819 01:34:10.680 --> 01:34:12.600 a problem with the house and the mortgage and all 1820 01:34:12.640 --> 01:34:14.960 that she's gonna have, and I don't know how she's 1821 01:34:14.960 --> 01:34:18.239 gonna address it. Hold on, Well, sometimes people call in 1822 01:34:18.359 --> 01:34:20.039 with one thing and we end up with three. But 1823 01:34:20.159 --> 01:34:22.279 that's a good thing because at least we can take 1824 01:34:22.319 --> 01:34:24.760 a look at the situation. So let's take a look 1825 01:34:24.760 --> 01:34:32.920 at the whole situation. 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Hi Tom Martino here three oh three 1836 01:35:09.439 --> 01:35:13.000 seven one three talk seven one three eight two five five. 1837 01:35:14.319 --> 01:35:16.079 You know, this time of year especially, we get all 1838 01:35:16.159 --> 01:35:17.880 of these calls. But I'm not saying it's only this 1839 01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:21.000 time of year, but these are the hardest calls to take. 1840 01:35:21.079 --> 01:35:25.439 I call them hard time calls. They're you know, people 1841 01:35:25.600 --> 01:35:28.720 have hard times and they call for help. We look 1842 01:35:28.760 --> 01:35:31.279 for programs, so we look for ways to help. One 1843 01:35:31.319 --> 01:35:34.880 thing we normally don't do. I mean, except if it's 1844 01:35:34.920 --> 01:35:37.359 a if it's a one time thing and it can 1845 01:35:37.399 --> 01:35:39.479 get them over a hump and they're not going to 1846 01:35:39.560 --> 01:35:42.479 get back in the hole. We we never throw good 1847 01:35:42.560 --> 01:35:44.439 money after bad. What I mean by that is if 1848 01:35:44.479 --> 01:35:46.600 somebody fell off a cliff and is so far gone, 1849 01:35:47.960 --> 01:35:52.319 giving them money is useless. It truly is without them 1850 01:35:52.439 --> 01:35:56.119 having some kind of a plan to get out of 1851 01:35:56.560 --> 01:36:00.920 the hole. But there are also other ways. You know, 1852 01:36:01.079 --> 01:36:04.600 there are some things that people need one time or 1853 01:36:04.760 --> 01:36:07.680 special needs. But I want to talk about this. So 1854 01:36:08.239 --> 01:36:12.920 this woman has three kids, adult kids, and well not 1855 01:36:13.000 --> 01:36:15.239 adult you know what I mean, freshman, sophomore, and senior, 1856 01:36:15.680 --> 01:36:18.640 and her husband was an alcoholic and lefter and now 1857 01:36:18.800 --> 01:36:23.039 she's working three jobs. Now, this is kind of similar 1858 01:36:23.159 --> 01:36:26.439 to how I grew up here. I mean, I had 1859 01:36:26.840 --> 01:36:30.439 a father who abandoned us, and my mom had to 1860 01:36:30.520 --> 01:36:33.640 work and support us. And at the time he left, 1861 01:36:33.680 --> 01:36:36.520 there were three of us left at home, So it's 1862 01:36:36.560 --> 01:36:41.600 almost identical we were a little younger. So Stephanie, she's 1863 01:36:41.640 --> 01:36:50.079 getting food stamps soon and she's getting also Medicaid, which 1864 01:36:50.159 --> 01:36:53.079 is good. So what else were you calling about? What 1865 01:36:53.199 --> 01:36:54.760 were you wondering about for her? 1866 01:36:56.920 --> 01:37:01.520 I guess just if there's anything out there, are you 1867 01:37:01.680 --> 01:37:04.760 know of anything like just to help her, just provide 1868 01:37:05.279 --> 01:37:07.800 something for her kids for like the holidays? 1869 01:37:08.319 --> 01:37:11.760 Okay, so that's does it boil down to that? So 1870 01:37:12.079 --> 01:37:15.760 so what happens when it's not the holidays? Does she 1871 01:37:16.199 --> 01:37:21.560 have money? Does she have a way to pay her bills? 1872 01:37:21.680 --> 01:37:23.800 What is she doing? What's her long range plan? 1873 01:37:25.479 --> 01:37:30.239 The long range plan? Is she she has enough like 1874 01:37:30.520 --> 01:37:33.359 just to get by? Basically, yeah, he checked a paycheck. 1875 01:37:34.119 --> 01:37:36.760 She's going to have to continue, you know, to work 1876 01:37:36.840 --> 01:37:37.680 these three jobs? 1877 01:37:38.239 --> 01:37:40.840 What three jobs? What three jobs are we talking about? 1878 01:37:41.279 --> 01:37:42.159 What kind of jobs. 1879 01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:46.920 So she does work for a school, yes, shorts with me. Yes, 1880 01:37:47.760 --> 01:37:52.760 she's also working for it's like a non it's a 1881 01:37:52.840 --> 01:37:53.840 nonprofit okay. 1882 01:37:54.079 --> 01:37:54.600 And what else? 1883 01:37:54.760 --> 01:37:57.680 Yeah, and then she works for a recreation center. 1884 01:37:59.560 --> 01:38:03.079 Okay, now yeah, Now what about. 1885 01:38:05.439 --> 01:38:05.760 The house. 1886 01:38:05.960 --> 01:38:10.960 She's also trying to get back to find a lawyer 1887 01:38:11.920 --> 01:38:15.479 who will work with her to figure something out of 1888 01:38:15.520 --> 01:38:18.359 the house because she can't she can't afford the payment, 1889 01:38:19.439 --> 01:38:23.680 and so she's she her hope. The plan is to 1890 01:38:23.880 --> 01:38:26.800 try to get out of the house and obviously find 1891 01:38:26.880 --> 01:38:28.159 something that she can't afford. 1892 01:38:28.479 --> 01:38:33.840 Okay, her children where she has no idea where the husband. 1893 01:38:33.640 --> 01:38:37.399 Is not at this I know if she is in 1894 01:38:37.520 --> 01:38:39.680 contact with his family, but they don't even know where 1895 01:38:39.720 --> 01:38:39.960 he is. 1896 01:38:40.800 --> 01:38:45.920 So she can't sell the house, right. I want to 1897 01:38:45.920 --> 01:38:47.000 get a hold of an attorney. 1898 01:38:47.239 --> 01:38:49.800 Do I have a suggestion? Is there any way that 1899 01:38:50.479 --> 01:38:52.640 Brad O'Brien on a referral? 1900 01:38:52.720 --> 01:38:54.159 Well, that's what I'm going to ask him. I'm going 1901 01:38:54.239 --> 01:38:55.880 to ask him if there's a way to sell a 1902 01:38:55.960 --> 01:38:59.439 house when a when a father a bed, may I 1903 01:38:59.520 --> 01:39:01.520 ask Stepan are you are you in the middle of 1904 01:39:01.600 --> 01:39:02.880 a crowd or something? 1905 01:39:02.960 --> 01:39:04.680 Where are you am I we're going to school. 1906 01:39:04.840 --> 01:39:05.159 No, no, I. 1907 01:39:05.239 --> 01:39:07.039 Understand no, no, are you are? 1908 01:39:07.359 --> 01:39:08.119 Are you break? 1909 01:39:08.439 --> 01:39:11.000 Are? Okay? Are you able though to hold while we 1910 01:39:11.079 --> 01:39:12.840 get an attorney on or you want us to call 1911 01:39:12.920 --> 01:39:15.600 you back? I mean we want to do you need it? 1912 01:39:15.760 --> 01:39:15.920 Yeah? 1913 01:39:15.920 --> 01:39:19.199 Because I have a guest that just arrived at okay school. 1914 01:39:19.199 --> 01:39:19.279 So. 1915 01:39:21.039 --> 01:39:24.880 Listen, Stephanie. We yeah, we are going to get someone 1916 01:39:25.079 --> 01:39:29.319 on to talk about this and and get information about it. 1917 01:39:29.720 --> 01:39:31.560 But it's kind of senseless to do it if we 1918 01:39:31.640 --> 01:39:35.319 can't relate that information to her. Is she available somewhere? 1919 01:39:36.960 --> 01:39:39.119 Well, she's kind of in the same position. Okay, yes, 1920 01:39:39.199 --> 01:39:40.119 students coming into it? 1921 01:39:40.279 --> 01:39:43.479 When will you have time to listen to an attorney? 1922 01:39:43.479 --> 01:39:47.159 If we get them on, I will be done at 1923 01:39:47.239 --> 01:39:51.000 Q here to forty five. Okay. I'll tell you what 1924 01:39:51.079 --> 01:39:53.680 we're I'll tell you what we're going to do. We're 1925 01:39:53.760 --> 01:39:56.720 going to listen to the attorney and get the advice, 1926 01:39:57.119 --> 01:39:59.880 and then I'm going to have Deputy Bo relate to 1927 01:40:00.159 --> 01:40:03.640 advice to you and her. Okay, okay, and Deputy Bow 1928 01:40:03.800 --> 01:40:06.760 that's what we call our volunteers, deputy, so he'll be 1929 01:40:07.000 --> 01:40:08.520 Do you have time to have bow? Because I just 1930 01:40:08.600 --> 01:40:11.159 gave you another one Okay, I go for this lady. 1931 01:40:11.199 --> 01:40:13.119 I want to help her. Okay, hold on all right, 1932 01:40:13.239 --> 01:40:16.039 and and then what we need to do, Kachina? Do 1933 01:40:16.119 --> 01:40:18.720 I need to take a break? Okay, Kachina, could you 1934 01:40:18.960 --> 01:40:22.359 get Brad O'Brien on anytime and then I'll get the information. 1935 01:40:22.520 --> 01:40:30.159 Bo can listen and then we'll relate that information. Go 1936 01:40:30.359 --> 01:40:33.920 with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel Roofing dot com. 1937 01:40:34.119 --> 01:40:39.800 You don't pay a cent until you're content. Time for 1938 01:40:39.880 --> 01:40:43.039 an insurance check up free, no obligation. In comparison, call 1939 01:40:43.159 --> 01:40:46.439 Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens of 1940 01:40:46.520 --> 01:40:49.439 insurance companies find out now three all three seven seven 1941 01:40:49.479 --> 01:40:52.239 to one help. You'll think you're his only customer when 1942 01:40:52.239 --> 01:40:54.520 you choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot com 1943 01:40:54.760 --> 01:40:57.880 to list your home with Remax Alliance three oh three 1944 01:40:58.000 --> 01:40:59.640 nine two zero sixteen twenty two. 1945 01:41:00.319 --> 01:41:05.560 Hi Tom Martino, you're a trouble shooter A three zero 1946 01:41:05.600 --> 01:41:09.600 three seven one three talk seven one three eight two 1947 01:41:09.720 --> 01:41:12.119 five five full lines, rocking and rolling. 1948 01:41:12.199 --> 01:41:17.880 Let me go right to Tammy, Tammy? What's going on? 1949 01:41:18.680 --> 01:41:19.279 Hi Tammy? 1950 01:41:20.159 --> 01:41:23.399 Find Martino. I was very nervous to start with. 1951 01:41:24.560 --> 01:41:25.079 I have. 1952 01:41:26.560 --> 01:41:29.000 Something stare with me. I don't want to go live 1953 01:41:29.119 --> 01:41:29.800 on the radio. 1954 01:41:30.199 --> 01:41:35.199 Oh, Tammy, Tammy, I I know you. You're from next door, Yes, sir, yes, 1955 01:41:36.159 --> 01:41:38.680 I read your case on there and I reached out 1956 01:41:38.720 --> 01:41:40.520 to you, so I know the problem. You don't have 1957 01:41:40.600 --> 01:41:43.079 to explain it all. But here's here. Let me let 1958 01:41:43.159 --> 01:41:45.399 me explain it for people since I know it. You 1959 01:41:45.680 --> 01:41:48.840 basically bought a new car and you've had nothing but 1960 01:41:48.960 --> 01:41:51.039 trouble and they can't fix it, and they say there's 1961 01:41:51.079 --> 01:41:52.239 a delay in getting apart. 1962 01:41:52.399 --> 01:41:52.880 Is that right? 1963 01:41:54.000 --> 01:41:57.800 Yes, So they've told me that's the chump List Enlightenment 1964 01:41:57.880 --> 01:42:00.720 on back at the end of August, and I took 1965 01:42:00.800 --> 01:42:04.039 it in right away to have them service it, although 1966 01:42:04.159 --> 01:42:06.039 they told me that I had to wait for an 1967 01:42:06.039 --> 01:42:07.920 appointment and that would be three months. 1968 01:42:08.000 --> 01:42:10.039 No, I get it. I get it, A Tammy Tammy. 1969 01:42:10.239 --> 01:42:13.560 Here's here's what I want to know. This happened. You 1970 01:42:13.760 --> 01:42:15.640 bought it new in twenty twenty one. 1971 01:42:15.600 --> 01:42:16.079 Is that right? 1972 01:42:17.159 --> 01:42:17.319 Yes? 1973 01:42:17.399 --> 01:42:18.800 Their twenty twenty one of two. 1974 01:42:19.640 --> 01:42:21.439 And it happened under warranty. 1975 01:42:21.560 --> 01:42:22.039 Is that right? 1976 01:42:23.199 --> 01:42:25.520 Well, they told me Canda General Moments it was a 1977 01:42:25.680 --> 01:42:26.760 three year warranty. 1978 01:42:27.319 --> 01:42:29.640 So that's twenty two, twenty three and twenty four. Right, 1979 01:42:29.960 --> 01:42:33.279 so it's a three year warranty. So the issue happened 1980 01:42:33.439 --> 01:42:37.840 while the car was under warranty, right, yes, sir, And 1981 01:42:38.039 --> 01:42:43.439 so why can't they fix it? It's with the transmission, right. 1982 01:42:44.520 --> 01:42:46.880 They told me that it was some type of module 1983 01:42:46.960 --> 01:42:48.399 that goes to the transision. 1984 01:42:48.720 --> 01:42:53.680 Yes, transmission is a transmission control module TCM. 1985 01:42:54.680 --> 01:42:55.079 Yes, sir. 1986 01:42:55.800 --> 01:42:58.119 And they told me that the part could be too 1987 01:42:58.279 --> 01:43:01.199 much for two years, and they were trying to just 1988 01:43:01.279 --> 01:43:04.119 throw me away like a piece of chest. But I 1989 01:43:04.199 --> 01:43:07.119 called them that I had persistent pace past of this 1990 01:43:07.319 --> 01:43:10.279 vehicle and that I was sick, and I was. 1991 01:43:10.399 --> 01:43:15.319 Asking them, Jammy, this is unacceptable. We want to help you. 1992 01:43:15.479 --> 01:43:16.560 You hang on, okay. 1993 01:43:16.880 --> 01:43:17.359 Who is the. 1994 01:43:17.439 --> 01:43:25.079 Dealer, by the way, automation automation where in golden Golden 1995 01:43:25.279 --> 01:43:27.439 All right, hold on, hold on, we'll be right back 1996 01:43:27.479 --> 01:43:37.640 to you. Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer 1997 01:43:37.800 --> 01:43:40.720 Excel roofing dot com. You don't pay a cent until 1998 01:43:40.760 --> 01:43:46.600 you're content. Time for an insurance check up free no 1999 01:43:46.720 --> 01:43:51.039 obligation comparison call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage 2000 01:43:51.079 --> 01:43:53.680 at dozens of insurance companies find out now three O 2001 01:43:53.800 --> 01:43:56.239 three seven seven to one help. 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One clear Choice Doors dot Com. 2022 01:45:20.159 --> 01:45:26.600 Now Tammy, we have some experts for Tammy First I 2023 01:45:26.680 --> 01:45:30.000 want to talk to Kevin Caulkin, he is with Shardan 2024 01:45:30.039 --> 01:45:32.560 Auto Tech. And then I'm going to take our attorney. 2025 01:45:32.880 --> 01:45:36.319 But right now i'd like Tammy, I want to ask 2026 01:45:36.399 --> 01:45:41.319 a quick question. Hey, Kevin Calkins is a mechanic. He's 2027 01:45:41.359 --> 01:45:46.800 a great guy. Tammy's twenty twenty one buick. Is it 2028 01:45:46.880 --> 01:45:48.479 an envoy or envision? 2029 01:45:48.680 --> 01:45:50.920 Is it called in it an envision preference? 2030 01:45:51.359 --> 01:45:54.800 An envision? It is giving It gave her nothing but 2031 01:45:55.000 --> 01:45:58.720 trouble with her transmission and it threw a code and 2032 01:45:58.800 --> 01:46:02.680 it said they told her she needs a TCM, a 2033 01:46:02.800 --> 01:46:06.760 transmission control module, and they said it could take six 2034 01:46:06.880 --> 01:46:11.640 months to two years to get Is that right? Yes, sir, Tammy? 2035 01:46:11.720 --> 01:46:14.039 Are they providing you another vehicle? 2036 01:46:15.000 --> 01:46:17.399 Let me tell you I've been Tammy. 2037 01:46:17.960 --> 01:46:20.640 I just need to know that's a yes or no? Dear, please? 2038 01:46:21.039 --> 01:46:23.680 Are they providing you thirty? 2039 01:46:23.760 --> 01:46:24.039 First? 2040 01:46:24.560 --> 01:46:27.720 They finally said they would give me a loner. However 2041 01:46:27.960 --> 01:46:30.159 that I've heard that they may want me to take 2042 01:46:30.279 --> 01:46:32.159 it over for rental costs. 2043 01:46:32.720 --> 01:46:34.159 And I said, well, of course. 2044 01:46:34.039 --> 01:46:37.119 Not, of course not. They have to Okay, next question 2045 01:46:37.239 --> 01:46:42.159 I have for you. Did they say okay, no, no, no? 2046 01:46:42.399 --> 01:46:44.000 Did they say it could be up to two years 2047 01:46:44.079 --> 01:46:44.560 to get one. 2048 01:46:45.560 --> 01:46:50.359 Yes, sir, been the service manager and is worker. 2049 01:46:50.159 --> 01:46:52.479 Than okay, got it technician? 2050 01:46:52.600 --> 01:46:54.760 Yeah, yeah, that's a yes, Okay, up to two years. 2051 01:46:55.079 --> 01:46:58.720 Kevin Caulkin, have you ever heard of these TCMs being 2052 01:46:58.800 --> 01:46:59.800 so difficult to get? 2053 01:47:00.720 --> 01:47:04.399 Well, I've seen madas with difficulty getting but I've never 2054 01:47:04.520 --> 01:47:05.359 heard two years. 2055 01:47:05.760 --> 01:47:08.479 Well it's been going on. Hold on, let's let's how 2056 01:47:08.600 --> 01:47:11.680 long is your how long has your envision been there? 2057 01:47:11.800 --> 01:47:17.079 Already since August I took it there, and. 2058 01:47:18.720 --> 01:47:22.199 The end of August I took it there beginning of September. 2059 01:47:22.279 --> 01:47:23.840 I tried to take it back and tell him I 2060 01:47:23.920 --> 01:47:26.399 would not drive my man pull with the light on, 2061 01:47:26.800 --> 01:47:27.760 as I wasn't gonna. 2062 01:47:27.840 --> 01:47:31.600 Okay, Tammy, Tammy, I need to ask this again, Tammy. 2063 01:47:31.760 --> 01:47:34.279 I know that you have anxiety, and I know this 2064 01:47:34.439 --> 01:47:37.399 is difficult, but I promise you I want to help you. 2065 01:47:37.520 --> 01:47:40.800 I need a quick answer. How long has it been 2066 01:47:41.039 --> 01:47:43.319 at the dealer for the. 2067 01:47:43.439 --> 01:47:46.439 Last this last time my cardbooks done? 2068 01:47:46.479 --> 01:47:47.000 The very nick? 2069 01:47:47.279 --> 01:47:51.640 How long has it been at the dealer? Okay, it 2070 01:47:52.000 --> 01:47:55.159 and before that? It was there before that too, Is 2071 01:47:55.239 --> 01:47:59.439 that right? Well? Yes, sir? About yeah, now, if you 2072 01:47:59.600 --> 01:48:04.319 took all of the times that your UH envision was 2073 01:48:04.399 --> 01:48:06.439 at the dealer. What does it add up to a week, 2074 01:48:06.560 --> 01:48:09.640 two weeks, three weeks, four weeks, what what approximately? 2075 01:48:10.960 --> 01:48:13.680 I'd say about five maybe five weeks. 2076 01:48:13.880 --> 01:48:20.199 Okay, Now this is ridiculous, UH and you this is ridiculous. 2077 01:48:20.399 --> 01:48:25.479 So Kevin Caulkin a transmission control module and this is 2078 01:48:25.560 --> 01:48:28.359 something else that I'm hearing from, Tammy, and I need 2079 01:48:28.479 --> 01:48:32.479 you to clarify this, Tammy. I want to get this straight. Okay, 2080 01:48:32.720 --> 01:48:36.479 this is the most important part, and you need to 2081 01:48:36.520 --> 01:48:41.720 hear this. Okay. Did they say, I'm not asking if 2082 01:48:41.760 --> 01:48:46.159 you agree, I'm not asking if you disagree. I'm just asking. 2083 01:48:46.800 --> 01:48:50.880 Did the dealer say you could take your car and 2084 01:48:51.159 --> 01:48:56.880 still drive it while you're waiting for the tcmer. 2085 01:48:56.359 --> 01:48:58.600 Yes, sir, Yes, for multiple times. 2086 01:48:58.680 --> 01:49:02.279 Okay, hold on, hold on, Tammy. They said you could 2087 01:49:02.319 --> 01:49:05.880 take And so when you say you can't use your 2088 01:49:06.000 --> 01:49:09.279 car and it's at the dealer and they're not living 2089 01:49:09.399 --> 01:49:13.960 up to the warranty, they said, Tammy, it might take 2090 01:49:14.600 --> 01:49:16.680 a few months to get this, it might take a year, 2091 01:49:16.760 --> 01:49:18.680 but you can use your vehicle. 2092 01:49:19.119 --> 01:49:23.079 Then Kevin and guarantee we call. We've asked all the 2093 01:49:23.239 --> 01:49:27.920 mechanics their car will not reve stranded. And I told 2094 01:49:27.960 --> 01:49:29.079 them I'm very ill. 2095 01:49:28.960 --> 01:49:29.479 At the side. 2096 01:49:29.479 --> 01:49:34.000 Okay, Kevin, Kevin, Why do they say she can drive 2097 01:49:34.079 --> 01:49:35.800 it if it has a bad TCM. 2098 01:49:36.920 --> 01:49:39.399 Well, it may just be throwing a code, you know 2099 01:49:39.479 --> 01:49:42.119 in a check engine light. Is their driveability issues as 2100 01:49:42.159 --> 01:49:43.439 well or just the light coming? 2101 01:49:43.920 --> 01:49:44.079 Oh. 2102 01:49:44.880 --> 01:49:47.159 The very next day that I demanded them to give 2103 01:49:47.199 --> 01:49:50.479 me a rental or something, they basically threw me. 2104 01:49:50.520 --> 01:49:53.399 Out the guard Punge Tammy, Jammy, I know you want 2105 01:49:53.439 --> 01:49:55.399 to tell me all kinds of stuff and we're asking 2106 01:49:55.479 --> 01:49:58.319 specific questions. Tammy. I hope you forgive me, but this 2107 01:49:58.520 --> 01:50:01.520 is what we need information. When you drive your car, 2108 01:50:02.159 --> 01:50:03.279 does it act up? 2109 01:50:04.720 --> 01:50:07.520 Yes, sir. The very next day it wouldn't not come 2110 01:50:07.560 --> 01:50:11.000 out of park okay, okay, locked out okay? 2111 01:50:11.319 --> 01:50:13.600 And then do they get it going again and tell 2112 01:50:13.640 --> 01:50:15.680 you to keep driving it? So you're afraid you're going 2113 01:50:15.720 --> 01:50:16.800 to be stranded somewhere. 2114 01:50:17.439 --> 01:50:18.520 No sure what has. 2115 01:50:18.439 --> 01:50:21.319 Happened is when I contacted them and I go, look 2116 01:50:21.319 --> 01:50:23.399 at here, my car did break down? 2117 01:50:23.479 --> 01:50:24.279 What do you want me to do? 2118 01:50:24.800 --> 01:50:26.560 And they said, well, we're not going to talk to 2119 01:50:26.600 --> 01:50:30.760 you any further into utow the vehicle back here car? 2120 01:50:30.840 --> 01:50:32.960 So Tammy where's your car right now? 2121 01:50:34.199 --> 01:50:35.920 In the dealership? Lock part? 2122 01:50:36.640 --> 01:50:40.600 Okay, okay, I rooped up the TCM real quick for that. 2123 01:50:40.720 --> 01:50:41.720 It is on the back corner. 2124 01:50:42.800 --> 01:50:46.199 So what does she do? So basically, Tammy, we agree 2125 01:50:46.640 --> 01:50:49.359 your car should not be driven. It could strand it. 2126 01:50:49.680 --> 01:50:52.760 You could end up stranded. It's at the dealer and 2127 01:50:52.840 --> 01:50:56.159 they're just telling you tough, that's what they're telling you. 2128 01:50:56.560 --> 01:50:59.840 So the only solution, the only solution I would see 2129 01:50:59.880 --> 01:51:03.000 to this is they pay for your loaner one hundred percent. 2130 01:51:03.239 --> 01:51:05.159 There is no way you should have to pay for 2131 01:51:05.239 --> 01:51:07.800 that loaner, not if it's been They can't even give 2132 01:51:07.840 --> 01:51:11.239 you an end time. Kevin, Is this happening with dealers now? 2133 01:51:11.399 --> 01:51:12.159 Is this common? 2134 01:51:13.600 --> 01:51:16.039 It is fairly common on modules to you know, hit 2135 01:51:16.119 --> 01:51:18.720 and miss with every manufacturer. But they won't give you 2136 01:51:18.800 --> 01:51:20.920 a time. I mean they have an open you know 2137 01:51:21.199 --> 01:51:23.159 order for them and it could be a week or 2138 01:51:23.199 --> 01:51:23.720 a monster. 2139 01:51:24.000 --> 01:51:24.359 All right. 2140 01:51:24.439 --> 01:51:26.920 I want to bring in our attorney now, Kevin, thank 2141 01:51:27.000 --> 01:51:29.039 you so much for looking that up. I want to 2142 01:51:29.079 --> 01:51:34.800 bring up that's Kevincolkin Shardanautotech dot com Reina bias. Does 2143 01:51:35.000 --> 01:51:36.640 what does this sound like to you? She bought this 2144 01:51:36.760 --> 01:51:39.079 new and twenty twenty one it was still under warranty. 2145 01:51:39.159 --> 01:51:44.479 Still is she can't get the Okay, that's Kevin, that's 2146 01:51:44.520 --> 01:51:46.439 my fault. Okay, let me go to her now. Now 2147 01:51:46.479 --> 01:51:48.960 I'm gonna go to Rena. Okay, Raina, are you there, 2148 01:51:50.159 --> 01:51:53.000 I'm here. You heard that case? What do you think? 2149 01:51:55.600 --> 01:51:55.880 Okay? 2150 01:51:56.159 --> 01:51:59.720 So when we talk about whether or not a warranty 2151 01:51:59.760 --> 01:52:02.119 has breached, we're going to be looking at you know, 2152 01:52:02.439 --> 01:52:05.560 is this a lemon right, like the promises that the 2153 01:52:05.640 --> 01:52:08.960 dealership or sorry, the promises that manufacturer has made that 2154 01:52:09.039 --> 01:52:12.520 they're going to replace and repair a component part. Has 2155 01:52:12.600 --> 01:52:16.760 that been violated because they've taken an extraordinarily a long 2156 01:52:16.760 --> 01:52:18.920 amount of time. And I would say in this case, 2157 01:52:19.000 --> 01:52:21.239 you know, four to five weeks of it being at 2158 01:52:21.279 --> 01:52:21.960 the dealership. 2159 01:52:22.319 --> 01:52:23.279 That is a long time. 2160 01:52:23.640 --> 01:52:24.439 That is a long time. 2161 01:52:24.560 --> 01:52:24.680 Right. 2162 01:52:24.880 --> 01:52:26.840 Well, the worst part Raina is they're telling her it 2163 01:52:26.880 --> 01:52:29.159 could be two years and there's nothing they can do 2164 01:52:29.239 --> 01:52:29.640 about it. 2165 01:52:31.279 --> 01:52:33.760 And you know, I'm a little bit confused about the driveability. Right, 2166 01:52:33.800 --> 01:52:36.079 So she's worried that she's going to be stranded, but 2167 01:52:36.239 --> 01:52:38.359 yet people are saying that she's actually not going to 2168 01:52:38.359 --> 01:52:39.680 be stranded and just throwing. 2169 01:52:39.479 --> 01:52:40.840 A code I don't. 2170 01:52:41.159 --> 01:52:44.520 Let's find out now now, Tammy. Again, I don't need 2171 01:52:44.600 --> 01:52:47.199 a lot of hyperbole. I need to know the fact. 2172 01:52:47.640 --> 01:52:50.039 Did the dealer say, oh, it's okay to drive it, 2173 01:52:50.359 --> 01:52:53.359 but every time you drive it it gives you trouble? 2174 01:52:53.520 --> 01:52:54.039 Is that right? 2175 01:52:55.279 --> 01:52:58.920 Multiple times they told me this and have sent me back. 2176 01:52:59.039 --> 01:53:02.079 I kept finding that. Beg them to take my vehicle 2177 01:53:02.199 --> 01:53:05.880 and have the fixed correctly and give it back to me. Then, 2178 01:53:05.960 --> 01:53:08.039 because it was not, I was scared. 2179 01:53:07.760 --> 01:53:08.279 To drive it. 2180 01:53:08.800 --> 01:53:12.000 Well, they say the very last time, the very next day, 2181 01:53:12.560 --> 01:53:14.319 my car did not come out. 2182 01:53:14.159 --> 01:53:15.760 Of park and it will not. 2183 01:53:16.199 --> 01:53:18.960 And even the towing lady that came they had us 2184 01:53:19.039 --> 01:53:22.039 said they didn't want to ruin my car anymore, and 2185 01:53:22.159 --> 01:53:24.920 that I had to get a special tow truck. And 2186 01:53:25.039 --> 01:53:28.159 then this, I'll just to get it because the computer 2187 01:53:28.720 --> 01:53:29.760 rises a new thing. 2188 01:53:30.439 --> 01:53:33.920 It wouldn't come back, Tammy. Tammy, we get it. The 2189 01:53:34.079 --> 01:53:37.560 answer is yes, every time you drive it you have problems. 2190 01:53:37.800 --> 01:53:41.000 You're afraid it's going to be it's going to strand you. Tammy. 2191 01:53:42.199 --> 01:53:45.880 I know that this has been frustrating. You have to 2192 01:53:46.000 --> 01:53:48.279 understand something, and I'm going to tell you this because 2193 01:53:48.319 --> 01:53:50.680 I'm your friend. Now you may go on next door 2194 01:53:50.680 --> 01:53:53.199 and say I'm a jerk, but I'm going to tell 2195 01:53:53.199 --> 01:53:55.359 you the truth. When you go on and on and 2196 01:53:55.520 --> 01:53:57.800 on and on and on and on and on with 2197 01:53:58.000 --> 01:54:02.239 details about all of it, people still listening. Okay, that's 2198 01:54:02.319 --> 01:54:05.560 why did you notice on next door how I summarized 2199 01:54:05.600 --> 01:54:06.520 your problem for you? 2200 01:54:07.600 --> 01:54:11.359 Yes, sure I did, just look at it. I understand 2201 01:54:11.760 --> 01:54:13.079 that's part of my anxiety. 2202 01:54:14.199 --> 01:54:17.199 I understand. I don't don't. You don't have to apologize. 2203 01:54:17.279 --> 01:54:20.600 I'm just telling you. In order for people to help you, 2204 01:54:21.279 --> 01:54:24.239 you truly have to cull it down a little raina. 2205 01:54:25.079 --> 01:54:28.039 Is there any really? I mean, at this point, the 2206 01:54:28.199 --> 01:54:31.239 dealer is basically saying, we have no idea when your 2207 01:54:31.319 --> 01:54:32.920 car is going to be ready. Tough. 2208 01:54:34.920 --> 01:54:39.800 Yeah, So look, Sammy definitely has a way of potentially 2209 01:54:39.920 --> 01:54:43.279 getting the manufacturer to pay attention to her. Okay. 2210 01:54:43.840 --> 01:54:46.399 So there's a couple of ways that you can do this. 2211 01:54:46.680 --> 01:54:46.960 Okay. 2212 01:54:47.399 --> 01:54:51.279 You if you are still under warranty on a vehicle 2213 01:54:51.359 --> 01:54:54.520 and you've given notice that you've been having issues and 2214 01:54:54.640 --> 01:54:58.560 it was during while it was under warranty, there is this. 2215 01:55:00.079 --> 01:55:02.399 It's like a third party arbitration. 2216 01:55:02.600 --> 01:55:06.239 It's not binding, okay, which means that just because they 2217 01:55:06.319 --> 01:55:08.439 find against you doesn't mean that you have to accept it. 2218 01:55:09.000 --> 01:55:11.680 But you go to this third party and you can 2219 01:55:12.000 --> 01:55:14.119 file a claim with them, and the filing. 2220 01:55:13.800 --> 01:55:15.039 The claim that's really easy to do. 2221 01:55:15.520 --> 01:55:17.840 The way that you find out who this third party 2222 01:55:18.079 --> 01:55:21.359 is is you got to look in your warranty booklet. Okay, 2223 01:55:21.640 --> 01:55:23.720 so open up your warranty booklet, or you can look 2224 01:55:23.760 --> 01:55:26.880 at it online and it'll show you. It'll say, okay, 2225 01:55:27.039 --> 01:55:30.079 speak to uck manufacturer customer care. 2226 01:55:30.520 --> 01:55:30.720 Don't. 2227 01:55:31.000 --> 01:55:32.520 That's not the person that I'm talking about. 2228 01:55:32.680 --> 01:55:33.479 I'm talking about. 2229 01:55:34.159 --> 01:55:35.920 There's this other arbitration. 2230 01:55:36.760 --> 01:55:39.199 Okay, it's called arbitration, and it's going to either be 2231 01:55:39.920 --> 01:55:43.199 BBB Auto Line, so not just Better Business Bureau but 2232 01:55:43.279 --> 01:55:47.199 BBB Auto Line, or it's going to be NCBs, which 2233 01:55:47.239 --> 01:55:50.000 is the National Dispute Resolution Center. 2234 01:55:50.119 --> 01:55:51.199 Does she have to pay for this? 2235 01:55:52.560 --> 01:55:54.319 She does not have to pay for this, And you 2236 01:55:54.439 --> 01:55:56.199 don't need an attorney for this. But what you do 2237 01:55:56.399 --> 01:55:58.560 need to be able to do is to really talk 2238 01:55:58.600 --> 01:56:00.960 about what's going on with your case. You have to 2239 01:56:01.000 --> 01:56:04.720 talk about how all of these service people right, and 2240 01:56:05.159 --> 01:56:06.239 give them service records. 2241 01:56:06.279 --> 01:56:07.920 You got to give them service records because that's. 2242 01:56:07.840 --> 01:56:09.960 What they're going to use you know that all these 2243 01:56:10.000 --> 01:56:12.039 service people are saying that there's something wrong with the 2244 01:56:12.119 --> 01:56:15.880 TCM but there's a back order and it's not safe 2245 01:56:15.920 --> 01:56:18.159 to drive, or people have told you not to drive it, 2246 01:56:18.560 --> 01:56:20.720 and your car has been in for a certain amount 2247 01:56:20.720 --> 01:56:21.039 of time. 2248 01:56:21.640 --> 01:56:23.039 So you put all of that. 2249 01:56:23.520 --> 01:56:27.520 Into you know, you make this claim with MCBS or 2250 01:56:27.560 --> 01:56:32.279 BBB Autoline and they will assign an arbitrator for you. 2251 01:56:33.239 --> 01:56:35.520 And this is these are people who are not you know, 2252 01:56:36.199 --> 01:56:39.159 who are supposed to be neutral, okay, and they would 2253 01:56:39.159 --> 01:56:43.119 look at your case and say, okay, she deserves a repurchase. 2254 01:56:43.479 --> 01:56:45.239 And what I mean by that is not to trade in, 2255 01:56:45.279 --> 01:56:46.880 but a repurchase right now. 2256 01:56:47.000 --> 01:56:49.840 Listen here, here's what I want to know. Okay, So 2257 01:56:50.159 --> 01:56:54.399 she starts there with arbitration. I'm maybe I'll have Deputy D. 2258 01:56:54.640 --> 01:56:57.239 Maybe D. Do you want to this woman needs help 2259 01:56:57.319 --> 01:57:00.239 in the D you're a detail oriented person like me, 2260 01:57:00.439 --> 01:57:02.520 We're going to have somebody contact you and help you 2261 01:57:02.600 --> 01:57:03.680 go through that process. 2262 01:57:03.760 --> 01:57:06.920 Okay, yes, sir, I would really appreciate it. 2263 01:57:07.600 --> 01:57:10.520 And you're just gonna right now, what are you driving 2264 01:57:10.680 --> 01:57:11.079 right now? 2265 01:57:12.520 --> 01:57:14.720 The loaner from Enterprise went a car. 2266 01:57:14.960 --> 01:57:16.239 But are they paying for it? 2267 01:57:17.840 --> 01:57:20.720 Yes they are now, But I have been told that 2268 01:57:20.720 --> 01:57:24.560 as I keep calling almost twice a week to ask 2269 01:57:24.640 --> 01:57:27.880 about my vehicle being written, and they said if I 2270 01:57:28.039 --> 01:57:32.199 continue to call that they will have me go ahead. 2271 01:57:31.960 --> 01:57:34.640 And take over the Okay, hold on, hold on, that's 2272 01:57:34.720 --> 01:57:37.319 be okay, Tammy. They're not saying you're going to take 2273 01:57:37.359 --> 01:57:39.079 it over. What they're trying to do is get you 2274 01:57:39.199 --> 01:57:41.399 to stop calling. So as long as you have a 2275 01:57:41.680 --> 01:57:44.319 what I would do right now, this is what I 2276 01:57:44.359 --> 01:57:47.960 would do, truly, I would just keep using the loaner 2277 01:57:48.119 --> 01:57:52.000 car if they're paying for it. Let me tell you why, 2278 01:57:52.560 --> 01:57:55.960 and Raina you may agree right now. You actually when 2279 01:57:56.239 --> 01:57:59.119 your car is not being used, and so when you 2280 01:57:59.279 --> 01:58:01.880 get it back and have that many less miles on it, 2281 01:58:02.159 --> 01:58:04.880 I think you're better off using the loaner until they 2282 01:58:05.000 --> 01:58:09.039 give you a hard time, and then we will. I 2283 01:58:09.239 --> 01:58:12.159 promise you, Tammy, if you play along with us and 2284 01:58:12.239 --> 01:58:15.920 do what we say, don't call them anymore, use their 2285 01:58:16.039 --> 01:58:20.239 loaner vehicle, and if they stop paying for it, you 2286 01:58:20.479 --> 01:58:25.640 contact us immediately, but don't call them now. Deputy d 2287 01:58:25.960 --> 01:58:28.399 will have all of your information, but we're going to 2288 01:58:28.479 --> 01:58:31.239 put it on hold. As long as they're still paying 2289 01:58:31.319 --> 01:58:35.479 for the loaner. Then at such point they stop paying, 2290 01:58:35.920 --> 01:58:39.560 we'll go into high gear or one other thing. We 2291 01:58:39.720 --> 01:58:43.039 should check back in two months and then say to 2292 01:58:43.279 --> 01:58:47.039 call the dealer in two months. So either or this 2293 01:58:47.279 --> 01:58:49.359 is what we should do. Rana. Do you think that's 2294 01:58:49.439 --> 01:58:50.279 a good tactic? 2295 01:58:51.760 --> 01:58:52.279 Absolutely? 2296 01:58:52.399 --> 01:58:55.439 I think, Sammy, absolutely, don't call them anymore. If they're 2297 01:58:55.479 --> 01:58:57.760 working on your car and they gave you a loaner. 2298 01:58:57.920 --> 01:58:58.760 Just drive the loaner. 2299 01:59:00.479 --> 01:59:04.439 Yeah, because no court Tammy would would consider you a 2300 01:59:04.600 --> 01:59:07.840 victim if you have a replacement vehicle. All right, get 2301 01:59:07.920 --> 01:59:12.199 Tammy's information. A RAINA, by the way, is the Bayless 2302 01:59:12.800 --> 01:59:16.399 Firm dot com, b A y as the Baas Firm 2303 01:59:16.840 --> 01:59:20.960 dot com, b A y as the Baisfirm dot com. 2304 01:59:21.039 --> 01:59:28.439 We have more coming up. Go with a sure thing 2305 01:59:28.600 --> 01:59:31.880 Denver's Best Roofer Excel Roofing dot com. 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God is slamming, busy, 2316 02:00:13.279 --> 02:00:15.680 busy day, and we're going to try to help each 2317 02:00:15.720 --> 02:00:19.039 and every one. If you have also Redbrosars dot com, 2318 02:00:19.119 --> 02:00:23.600 redrockshroof and Solar with us, and we've been talking about 2319 02:00:23.720 --> 02:00:26.239 Solar as well, and you can always reach them at 2320 02:00:26.279 --> 02:00:29.159 three oh three seven zero four two four four nine. Randy, 2321 02:00:29.800 --> 02:00:31.880 what's going on with you? Randy? Welcome to the show. 2322 02:00:33.560 --> 02:00:34.279 Thank you for having me. 2323 02:00:34.359 --> 02:00:34.560 Tom. 2324 02:00:35.039 --> 02:00:37.319 I had a question for you. I had a cell 2325 02:00:37.399 --> 02:00:40.800 phone with a girlfriend a couple of months ago. We 2326 02:00:40.920 --> 02:00:43.800 broke up. She's refusing to pay for the cell phone, 2327 02:00:43.840 --> 02:00:46.319 refusing to pay for the bill. If I'm going to 2328 02:00:46.439 --> 02:00:48.039 cut it off, it's going to be eight hundred and 2329 02:00:48.039 --> 02:00:51.560 sixty seven just to pay off the phone. Am I 2330 02:00:52.079 --> 02:00:54.399 okay to go to small plane court? Is it worth it? 2331 02:00:54.600 --> 02:00:54.800 Well? 2332 02:00:55.279 --> 02:00:57.000 What is your agreement? Tell me? 2333 02:00:57.119 --> 02:00:57.159 What? 2334 02:00:57.520 --> 02:00:59.359 Tell me what your agreement is? Kind of. 2335 02:01:00.920 --> 02:01:04.319 Well, her husband at the time kicked off his plan. 2336 02:01:04.560 --> 02:01:07.119 We were dating, so we got together. I told her 2337 02:01:07.159 --> 02:01:10.159 she could come onto my line. Yes, she got a 2338 02:01:10.199 --> 02:01:13.520 new phone, and she got a new phone. 2339 02:01:13.640 --> 02:01:16.720 And the phone was the phone put on your account? 2340 02:01:18.279 --> 02:01:18.479 Yes? 2341 02:01:18.680 --> 02:01:21.199 Okay, So the phone is put on your account where 2342 02:01:21.199 --> 02:01:23.800 you pay monthly for it? Or was is that how 2343 02:01:23.840 --> 02:01:29.199 it's working? Yes? Okay? And then plus her service? Right now, 2344 02:01:29.359 --> 02:01:30.439 did you guys break up? 2345 02:01:32.039 --> 02:01:32.239 Yes? 2346 02:01:32.560 --> 02:01:36.000 Okay, so now you're paying for her phone? What about 2347 02:01:36.039 --> 02:01:39.640 the service? Did you cut that off? No? 2348 02:01:39.800 --> 02:01:41.399 Because it's cut off the service. I have to pay 2349 02:01:41.439 --> 02:01:43.800 off the phone and I don't have eight hundred and 2350 02:01:43.800 --> 02:01:44.560 sixty seven dollars. 2351 02:01:44.680 --> 02:01:47.199 Wait a minute, you can't cut off the service or 2352 02:01:47.239 --> 02:01:50.399 turn it off. Of course you can, of course you. 2353 02:01:50.479 --> 02:01:52.439 Call I called him and they said they said that 2354 02:01:52.560 --> 02:01:56.720 I can. Verizon said that I can sign a sign 2355 02:01:56.760 --> 02:01:59.960 a second phone number to my phone. But I would 2356 02:02:00.079 --> 02:02:01.680 still have to keep paying on her phone. 2357 02:02:01.800 --> 02:02:04.199 But you would stay here. Here's what I'm trying, Randy. 2358 02:02:04.560 --> 02:02:07.079 What I'm trying to figure out, not yeah, is to 2359 02:02:08.199 --> 02:02:10.640 what you should do though, is if her phone is 2360 02:02:10.760 --> 02:02:12.800 not working any way, you can do that, even if 2361 02:02:12.840 --> 02:02:15.520 you have to keep paying. Okay, then do it. 2362 02:02:15.600 --> 02:02:18.439 You've never got a new phone, Oh so it doesn't 2363 02:02:18.479 --> 02:02:19.319 really matter to her own? 2364 02:02:19.680 --> 02:02:21.319 So actually, where is the phone? 2365 02:02:21.359 --> 02:02:21.479 Then? 2366 02:02:21.560 --> 02:02:23.960 Can you hold on? Can you at least get her phone? 2367 02:02:24.840 --> 02:02:25.720 Will she give it to you? 2368 02:02:26.000 --> 02:02:26.039 No? 2369 02:02:26.279 --> 02:02:26.640 She won't. 2370 02:02:27.399 --> 02:02:29.880 No, why won't she give it to you? 2371 02:02:31.800 --> 02:02:34.680 She's not answering my tech? Well, now I don't have 2372 02:02:34.720 --> 02:02:36.680 her phone, but I've messaged her through Facebook and she's 2373 02:02:36.720 --> 02:02:37.800 not answering me on that either. 2374 02:02:39.399 --> 02:02:41.680 And tell me how you would sewer How would you 2375 02:02:41.800 --> 02:02:43.079 sew her in small claims court? 2376 02:02:44.479 --> 02:02:46.760 Well, that's what I was wondering. I mean, can I 2377 02:02:46.840 --> 02:02:48.800 for one thousand dollars because right now shows me one 2378 02:02:48.880 --> 02:02:49.880 hundred and fifty for bills. 2379 02:02:50.079 --> 02:02:55.479 Here's what I'm randy, Randy, I'm asking how will you 2380 02:02:55.640 --> 02:02:57.680 do it? Where will you find her to serve her? 2381 02:02:59.319 --> 02:03:00.359 I know where she's lives. 2382 02:03:01.720 --> 02:03:02.000 Okay. 2383 02:03:02.439 --> 02:03:05.279 Have you ever thought about going over there and asking 2384 02:03:05.399 --> 02:03:07.279 for the phone. Say, look, if I'm going to pay 2385 02:03:07.359 --> 02:03:10.840 for this, I want the phone and I'll tell you why. Okay, 2386 02:03:11.199 --> 02:03:12.840 Or you can serve her. But if you go to 2387 02:03:12.920 --> 02:03:15.399 small claims court, there's a very good chance she can 2388 02:03:15.479 --> 02:03:16.880 simply say it was a gift. 2389 02:03:18.840 --> 02:03:21.159 Right, I mean, even if I have text messages from 2390 02:03:21.199 --> 02:03:23.520 her saying that she's going to pay me and she's 2391 02:03:23.520 --> 02:03:24.920 going to do this, and she's going to do that. 2392 02:03:25.279 --> 02:03:28.279 Well if she if you actually have dated and timed 2393 02:03:28.680 --> 02:03:32.439 stamped text messages from her, you can go to small 2394 02:03:32.479 --> 02:03:35.039 claims court. Sure you can fifty bucks, that's all it 2395 02:03:35.119 --> 02:03:37.760 takes server and do it. Or you could ask for 2396 02:03:37.840 --> 02:03:40.000 the phone back and try to sell it. What kind 2397 02:03:40.039 --> 02:03:40.640 of phone was it? 2398 02:03:42.359 --> 02:03:44.000 It's an iPhone sixteen, I believe. 2399 02:03:44.640 --> 02:03:51.399 Wow, you must have really thought she was something. 2400 02:03:53.880 --> 02:03:55.960 Well it was the cheapest one they had, but yeah, 2401 02:03:56.039 --> 02:03:57.680 now it's down to eight hundred and sixty seven dollars. 2402 02:03:57.720 --> 02:03:59.319 No, but I mean you must have really thought she 2403 02:03:59.439 --> 02:04:00.880 was something. I mean, did you think you're going to 2404 02:04:00.920 --> 02:04:01.560 get married or what? 2405 02:04:03.159 --> 02:04:03.359 Yeah? 2406 02:04:03.680 --> 02:04:05.199 I thought that was where it was going to go, 2407 02:04:05.239 --> 02:04:06.560 and then I found out she uses people. 2408 02:04:06.680 --> 02:04:11.600 So yeah, this is terrible, Randy, I think you're losing 2409 02:04:11.640 --> 02:04:13.960 small claims court if she just lies through her teeth 2410 02:04:14.520 --> 02:04:16.439 or but if she doesn't show up, it'd be the 2411 02:04:16.479 --> 02:04:19.399 best thing. Get a default judgment. Go after her, but 2412 02:04:19.479 --> 02:04:22.000 you know yourself to collect. You understand that. You know 2413 02:04:22.119 --> 02:04:24.680 small claims court isn't a panacea. You get a judgment. 2414 02:04:24.960 --> 02:04:27.760 It's only good when you go after legit companies because 2415 02:04:27.760 --> 02:04:29.680 they usually settle. They don't want to. They don't want 2416 02:04:29.720 --> 02:04:34.840 to be bothered. Individuals don't usually care the judgments are unenforceable. 2417 02:04:35.119 --> 02:04:37.359 It costs you. It's going to cost you as much 2418 02:04:37.439 --> 02:04:39.359 to collect the damn thing then it is to get 2419 02:04:40.319 --> 02:04:42.920 You got to get the judgment. Fifty bucks. If you 2420 02:04:43.000 --> 02:04:45.159 do get the judgment, now you got to get a 2421 02:04:45.199 --> 02:04:51.920 collection attorney. I mean, it's just not Randy. Well, she 2422 02:04:52.199 --> 02:04:55.159 might cave if you do that, though, So it costs 2423 02:04:55.159 --> 02:04:57.359 you fifty bucks to gamble on that. But if you 2424 02:04:57.479 --> 02:05:00.600 go and get a judgment, you know there are things 2425 02:05:00.640 --> 02:05:03.600 you could possibly do. But it's to be honest with you, Randy, 2426 02:05:03.640 --> 02:05:06.239 it isn't worth it. I mean, if you went to 2427 02:05:06.359 --> 02:05:07.840 her house and knocked on the door and asked for 2428 02:05:07.920 --> 02:05:10.399 the phone, would she considered that a threat? Is she weird? 2429 02:05:10.600 --> 02:05:12.000 Is she going to have you arrested or what? 2430 02:05:13.880 --> 02:05:17.239 She's very weird? Yes, I don't know what she would do. 2431 02:05:17.640 --> 02:05:20.439 I don't know what her roommates would do. I'm not sure. 2432 02:05:20.600 --> 02:05:24.079 Then you should have a witness. But it's your phone. 2433 02:05:25.239 --> 02:05:29.640 You can simply tell the police she has your phone. Yeah, 2434 02:05:29.960 --> 02:05:32.359 and you all you want is your phone? You say 2435 02:05:32.439 --> 02:05:34.680 I broke up with her. I just want my phone. 2436 02:05:35.039 --> 02:05:37.439 That's all I want. I don't want anything else. I 2437 02:05:37.520 --> 02:05:40.760 want the phone and go there with I mean, maybe 2438 02:05:41.000 --> 02:05:44.039 maybe they'll go with you. I seriously say, you don't 2439 02:05:44.039 --> 02:05:46.800 want to have any issues whatsoever when you go to 2440 02:05:46.920 --> 02:05:56.319 ask for it. That's one way. And oh, man, you 2441 02:05:56.399 --> 02:05:57.560 know Randy eight. 2442 02:05:57.640 --> 02:06:00.159 R Andy, why don't you go to her place to 2443 02:06:00.239 --> 02:06:03.199 work and ask for the phone. It'd be less intimidating 2444 02:06:03.319 --> 02:06:05.159 and there'd be other Do you know where she. 2445 02:06:05.239 --> 02:06:05.920 Works, Randy? 2446 02:06:07.399 --> 02:06:07.840 I do not. 2447 02:06:08.039 --> 02:06:09.920 She quit her job and she says she's going to 2448 02:06:09.960 --> 02:06:11.680 start a new one. That's why she said, kept telling 2449 02:06:11.680 --> 02:06:14.239 me she was going to pay me back. And so no, 2450 02:06:14.319 --> 02:06:15.439 I do not know where she's working. 2451 02:06:16.239 --> 02:06:18.960 Wait, if you have text? If you have text message, 2452 02:06:19.039 --> 02:06:21.399 is that much? I forgot about those? Yeah, you might 2453 02:06:21.439 --> 02:06:24.319 get a judgment. But even if you get one, now 2454 02:06:24.399 --> 02:06:26.520 you got to collect it. Or do you think she 2455 02:06:26.600 --> 02:06:27.560 would even pay you? 2456 02:06:29.760 --> 02:06:31.039 I don't know, to be honest with you, I don't 2457 02:06:31.039 --> 02:06:32.640 think she's got the money. But I don't know. 2458 02:06:32.840 --> 02:06:33.199 I don't know. 2459 02:06:33.439 --> 02:06:35.800 I mean, I'm a single father. I work twelve hours 2460 02:06:35.840 --> 02:06:37.960 a day, you know, I'm a full time dad, so 2461 02:06:38.640 --> 02:06:40.560 I don't have really time to be doing a whole 2462 02:06:40.560 --> 02:06:42.680 lot of stuff. But yeah, I was just wondering if 2463 02:06:42.720 --> 02:06:45.079 it's worth even going this route. Well, I mean what 2464 02:06:45.319 --> 02:06:47.359 Douglas County and I can't find anything. 2465 02:06:47.920 --> 02:06:48.640 Anything about what? 2466 02:06:50.319 --> 02:06:53.039 Uh? Just trying to file in small claims. It's easy 2467 02:06:53.239 --> 02:06:54.439 out of the courthouse. 2468 02:06:54.159 --> 02:06:59.800 You know, you don't. You do it online. Everything's online, Okay, 2469 02:07:00.760 --> 02:07:04.520 you can fill it out online. Yeah, then you go, yeah, 2470 02:07:04.600 --> 02:07:07.079 then you have it filed. Sure, but you can fill 2471 02:07:07.159 --> 02:07:12.960 it out online. Randy, listen, Man, I I wish I 2472 02:07:13.039 --> 02:07:13.920 had better news for you. 2473 02:07:14.319 --> 02:07:14.520 Let me. 2474 02:07:15.760 --> 02:07:17.840 Did you ever have any kind of doubts when you 2475 02:07:17.880 --> 02:07:18.880 were buying this phone? 2476 02:07:20.479 --> 02:07:22.359 A little bit? Yeah? 2477 02:07:22.720 --> 02:07:25.720 Well, man, I'm sorry about that. Could have been worse, 2478 02:07:25.760 --> 02:07:35.439 could have been an engagement ring. I'm Tom Martina. Go 2479 02:07:35.640 --> 02:07:39.199 with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel Roofing dot com. 2480 02:07:39.399 --> 02:07:45.119 You don't pay a cent until you're content. Time for 2481 02:07:45.159 --> 02:07:48.319 an insurance check up free, no obligation. In comparison, call 2482 02:07:48.439 --> 02:07:51.720 Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens of 2483 02:07:51.800 --> 02:07:54.479 insurance companies find out now three all three seven to 2484 02:07:54.520 --> 02:07:57.319 seven to one help. You'll think you're his only customer 2485 02:07:57.359 --> 02:07:59.520 when you choose Frank Durand the real estate man dot 2486 02:07:59.640 --> 02:08:02.960 com to list your home with Remax Alliance three all 2487 02:08:03.000 --> 02:08:14.760 three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi tom Archino, 2488 02:08:14.960 --> 02:08:19.239 you're troubleshooter three A three seven one three talk seven 2489 02:08:19.279 --> 02:08:20.960 one three eight two five five. I want to talk 2490 02:08:21.000 --> 02:08:23.199 to Brad O'Brien, attorney at law as a real estate 2491 02:08:23.239 --> 02:08:26.520 attorney and Brad, we had a case come up that 2492 02:08:27.279 --> 02:08:29.319 she's not on the air right now, but we want 2493 02:08:29.359 --> 02:08:31.880 to call her back and give her some information. It's 2494 02:08:31.920 --> 02:08:37.000 a very terrible situation and basically she's a mother of 2495 02:08:37.960 --> 02:08:46.119 three kids and her alcoholic husband left her high and dry, 2496 02:08:46.760 --> 02:08:50.199 but they own the house together. She wants to sell it, 2497 02:08:50.319 --> 02:08:53.760 she can't afford it. No one can find him anywhere, 2498 02:08:54.239 --> 02:08:59.239 no one, and uh, basically we want to know what 2499 02:08:59.520 --> 02:09:02.720 there must speak cases like this in real estate for 2500 02:09:02.880 --> 02:09:05.680 divorces or is this better left to a divorce attorney? 2501 02:09:05.760 --> 02:09:07.399 What do you think, brad Well? 2502 02:09:07.479 --> 02:09:11.640 One alternative is to partition the property. That's a court 2503 02:09:11.680 --> 02:09:15.840 proceeding that basically splits the property and it's used when 2504 02:09:16.319 --> 02:09:18.159 the other co owner doesn't want to sell and do 2505 02:09:18.199 --> 02:09:20.159 you want to sell? So in this case, you can't 2506 02:09:20.199 --> 02:09:22.720 find another co owner to get there and assigned. Indeed, 2507 02:09:22.840 --> 02:09:26.079 so you go to court, the court orders the property 2508 02:09:26.079 --> 02:09:27.680 to be sold. Then the money is split. 2509 02:09:29.079 --> 02:09:32.439 The money is split. So where is where does his 2510 02:09:32.600 --> 02:09:33.720 money go? He's nowhere. 2511 02:09:35.359 --> 02:09:36.159 Well, somebody's got. 2512 02:09:36.119 --> 02:09:36.439 To hold it. 2513 02:09:37.600 --> 02:09:40.159 It's not a windfall for the for the lady, for 2514 02:09:40.239 --> 02:09:40.439 the other. 2515 02:09:40.600 --> 02:09:42.560 Is it? 2516 02:09:42.880 --> 02:09:45.039 Put an asker? I mean, what happens if you can't 2517 02:09:45.119 --> 02:09:46.920 find him anywhere? What happens? 2518 02:09:48.279 --> 02:09:51.039 I imagine the money. It's a pretty pretty rare circumstance. 2519 02:09:51.119 --> 02:09:53.880 But the money probably will be deposited into the registry 2520 02:09:53.880 --> 02:09:58.800 of the court in some type of court action. Actually 2521 02:09:58.840 --> 02:10:01.000 it's part of the same action. And then after so 2522 02:10:01.079 --> 02:10:02.880 many years, it would cheat. 2523 02:10:03.880 --> 02:10:07.359 Oh I see, yeah, But but no matter what, she 2524 02:10:07.520 --> 02:10:08.640 can't get the whole house. 2525 02:10:10.760 --> 02:10:12.439 No, that's not what a partition action does. 2526 02:10:13.960 --> 02:10:18.119 I wonder, though, this is a question for a divorce attorney, 2527 02:10:18.159 --> 02:10:21.800 which we should probably get on. I wonder if she 2528 02:10:22.720 --> 02:10:28.399 petitioned for divorce and the guy's not around, I wonder 2529 02:10:28.439 --> 02:10:32.359 what happens then? Does she get kind of like default stuff? 2530 02:10:33.039 --> 02:10:36.119 I don't know. I mean that, like I said, that's 2531 02:10:36.199 --> 02:10:39.159 more divorce. But what you're saying is, Brad, it's tough 2532 02:10:39.239 --> 02:10:41.560 to see what you're basically saying it's really tough to 2533 02:10:41.680 --> 02:10:46.600 sell if one of the people who owns the house disappeared. 2534 02:10:47.279 --> 02:10:51.399 Yeah, and you're you're asking about abandonment. Abandon Abandonment does 2535 02:10:51.479 --> 02:10:54.159 not change tiles, warehouse is not. 2536 02:10:54.439 --> 02:10:58.239 Okay, lady, get full tired. Well that's a quick answer 2537 02:10:58.279 --> 02:10:59.840 I wanted, though, Thank you very much. 2538 02:11:00.119 --> 02:11:01.920 Question for Brad, Tom, go. 2539 02:11:01.960 --> 02:11:04.479 Ahead, Brad? 2540 02:11:04.560 --> 02:11:09.920 What about her doing a quiet title action to get 2541 02:11:09.960 --> 02:11:10.640 his name off? 2542 02:11:11.000 --> 02:11:13.239 Well, but what are you doing a quiet title action 2543 02:11:13.359 --> 02:11:17.439 of that right title? I believe that's I don't know anyway, Brad, 2544 02:11:17.479 --> 02:11:18.000 what about that? 2545 02:11:18.880 --> 02:11:20.800 Well, a quiet title action you asked the court to 2546 02:11:20.840 --> 02:11:23.479 declare something about the title of the house, to say 2547 02:11:23.560 --> 02:11:25.600 what it is going on. But it's not a way 2548 02:11:25.680 --> 02:11:29.439 to actually get ownership. Have a right to get that ownership. 2549 02:11:29.760 --> 02:11:33.600 Right, Okay, Yeah, it's a different action altogether. Give an 2550 02:11:33.640 --> 02:11:36.000 example of when you would use a quiet title action. 2551 02:11:37.479 --> 02:11:40.960 Well, there's some promise between these two people that that 2552 02:11:41.119 --> 02:11:42.600 she was going that he was going to sell the 2553 02:11:42.640 --> 02:11:44.880 house to her on some condition in the future, and 2554 02:11:44.960 --> 02:11:47.720 that that has now happened. Well, you could bring a 2555 02:11:47.800 --> 02:11:51.840 quiet title to basically close that deal through court order 2556 02:11:52.520 --> 02:11:57.640 without him actually signing the deed. That's an example. 2557 02:12:00.920 --> 02:12:07.359 All right, all right, hey Kitschina, thank you very much. Brad. 2558 02:12:07.880 --> 02:12:09.840 That party that I wanted you to call said they 2559 02:12:09.920 --> 02:12:13.359 have no voicemail messages at all, so I'm not sure 2560 02:12:13.359 --> 02:12:16.439 if you call that number. But she was waiting to 2561 02:12:16.479 --> 02:12:17.199 come on the show. 2562 02:12:17.840 --> 02:12:17.960 Uh. 2563 02:12:18.239 --> 02:12:20.439 John has an issue with an apartment. Right after this, 2564 02:12:21.760 --> 02:12:25.000 go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel Roofing 2565 02:12:25.119 --> 02:12:27.760 dot com. You don't pay a cent until you're content. 2566 02:12:31.159 --> 02:12:34.279 Time for an insurance check up, free no obligation comparison 2567 02:12:34.479 --> 02:12:38.000 call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens 2568 02:12:38.039 --> 02:12:40.760 of insurance companies find out now three O three seven 2569 02:12:40.760 --> 02:12:43.079 to seven to one help. You'll think you're his only 2570 02:12:43.239 --> 02:12:45.640 customer when you choose Frank Durand the real estate Man 2571 02:12:45.720 --> 02:12:49.119 dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three 2572 02:12:49.359 --> 02:13:01.680 three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino 2573 02:13:01.760 --> 02:13:04.800 here three O three seven one three talk seven one 2574 02:13:04.840 --> 02:13:09.079 three eight two five five brook right now, real quick, 2575 02:13:09.239 --> 02:13:11.359 b and I'm going to take the calls, but we're 2576 02:13:11.359 --> 02:13:13.960 getting toward at the top of the hour. If somebody 2577 02:13:14.079 --> 02:13:17.640 orders right now, can they get tax credits for this year? Yes, 2578 02:13:18.000 --> 02:13:21.279 but only commercial okay, so residential, you're out. 2579 02:13:21.359 --> 02:13:22.760 It's too residential. 2580 02:13:22.840 --> 02:13:25.199 You have to wait till it's activated. That came through 2581 02:13:25.319 --> 02:13:26.840 from the IRS last year. 2582 02:13:27.039 --> 02:13:30.319 Okay, And it's not time to get done and activated 2583 02:13:30.479 --> 02:13:30.800 right now. 2584 02:13:31.399 --> 02:13:33.399 No, there's no way you could get it activated. 2585 02:13:33.800 --> 02:13:37.119 Okay. Uh, but red rocks can do it though. Red 2586 02:13:37.239 --> 02:13:39.520 Rocks rs dot com. As far as a system for 2587 02:13:39.760 --> 02:13:41.600 you in a good one three oh three seven zero 2588 02:13:41.680 --> 02:13:45.920 four two four four nine. Susie has an issue with 2589 02:13:46.000 --> 02:13:49.760 a contractor. Susie, what is your issue with a contractor? 2590 02:13:52.960 --> 02:13:56.760 I hired him back in July, gave him his two 2591 02:13:56.880 --> 02:13:59.159 thirds down payment for a very large project. 2592 02:14:00.079 --> 02:14:04.840 Wait wait, two thirds down? Two thirds Yes, that's a 2593 02:14:04.920 --> 02:14:09.279 deal breaker. Okay, So what happened then? And when did 2594 02:14:09.319 --> 02:14:09.920 you hire him? 2595 02:14:11.439 --> 02:14:14.880 He was supposed to begin the project on July twenty seconds, okay, 2596 02:14:16.840 --> 02:14:18.720 money was in his hands, you know, a week and 2597 02:14:18.720 --> 02:14:19.359 a half before that. 2598 02:14:20.000 --> 02:14:23.079 Oh my god. Two thirds down is unheard of anyway. 2599 02:14:23.439 --> 02:14:26.119 So where does it stand right now? Has he ever started? 2600 02:14:27.399 --> 02:14:32.119 So he or his workers have spent less than four 2601 02:14:32.239 --> 02:14:35.239 full days of work. They've turned my yard to complete? 2602 02:14:35.600 --> 02:14:36.960 How much is two thirds down? 2603 02:14:38.880 --> 02:14:40.039 Sixty thousand dollars? 2604 02:14:40.920 --> 02:14:44.359 I have? I have some really bad news for you. 2605 02:14:44.439 --> 02:14:47.760 There's a very very very good chance you've lost this money. 2606 02:14:48.439 --> 02:14:51.680 I mean, I mean, honest to God. What's the name 2607 02:14:51.720 --> 02:14:52.560 of the contractor? 2608 02:14:55.000 --> 02:14:58.720 Well, he has two different business names, Trotter's Home Improvements 2609 02:14:59.039 --> 02:15:03.520 and and the invoice that I paid didn't say Totter 2610 02:15:03.600 --> 02:15:06.279 Some Improvements. It said American Elite Construction. 2611 02:15:06.760 --> 02:15:09.560 Well, tell me who your contract. 2612 02:15:09.119 --> 02:15:09.319 Is with. 2613 02:15:11.720 --> 02:15:15.600 That with him? He's the owner of the company's Protter Totter. 2614 02:15:16.039 --> 02:15:18.560 I mean the contract that you signed. What does it 2615 02:15:18.680 --> 02:15:21.560 say on the contract? What company are you contracting? 2616 02:15:23.640 --> 02:15:23.680 On? 2617 02:15:24.199 --> 02:15:27.640 The actual It really was just the invoice. 2618 02:15:28.199 --> 02:15:31.000 What are you talking about? Do you have a contract? 2619 02:15:35.279 --> 02:15:38.960 I paid a sign I paid the money and signed 2620 02:15:39.560 --> 02:15:43.920 a document online and the documentary American Construction. 2621 02:15:44.680 --> 02:15:48.199 Okay, the document online was American Construction. 2622 02:15:48.920 --> 02:15:50.279 Elite, American Construction. 2623 02:15:50.600 --> 02:15:55.279 Okay, Okay. Then his name okay, I got it. And 2624 02:15:55.359 --> 02:15:58.199 then his name is Totter t O t t. 2625 02:15:58.359 --> 02:16:04.520 E rrr tr O t t e r like a horse, right, okay? 2626 02:16:05.239 --> 02:16:06.359 And what's his first name? 2627 02:16:07.479 --> 02:16:07.880 Often? 2628 02:16:10.479 --> 02:16:12.640 And does he ever answer your calls? 2629 02:16:15.159 --> 02:16:18.760 So he didn't show up for a month with no no, 2630 02:16:19.159 --> 02:16:20.600 you know, he's the start of the twenty seconds, do 2631 02:16:20.680 --> 02:16:21.319 I never showed up. 2632 02:16:21.399 --> 02:16:23.319 What's the last you heard from him? That's what I need. 2633 02:16:23.479 --> 02:16:25.159 And see we're getting toward the end of the show. 2634 02:16:25.159 --> 02:16:27.119 I'm not gonna I'm not going to drop this. We're 2635 02:16:27.159 --> 02:16:28.840 going to get you back, but I want to get 2636 02:16:28.920 --> 02:16:31.640 some of these facts down. So when's the actual last 2637 02:16:31.680 --> 02:16:32.559 time you talked to him? 2638 02:16:33.639 --> 02:16:36.239 So I handed it over to my sister and a 2639 02:16:36.360 --> 02:16:38.479 friend because I just couldn't handle it anymore. 2640 02:16:39.559 --> 02:16:40.280 I don't blame you. 2641 02:16:40.639 --> 02:16:44.280 They met him at my house I think a week 2642 02:16:44.319 --> 02:16:47.319 and a half ago now, and try to continue to 2643 02:16:48.399 --> 02:16:51.079 get things moving and what did he say? But he 2644 02:16:51.079 --> 02:16:53.680 couldn't provide any any of the things. He couldn't meet 2645 02:16:53.719 --> 02:17:00.559 any of their requirements and other than communicating with So 2646 02:17:00.719 --> 02:17:03.399 he has reached out to my sister finally and said, 2647 02:17:03.440 --> 02:17:05.559 you know that he would be here today, which she 2648 02:17:05.760 --> 02:17:09.520 just said, you know, no, thank you, because we're just 2649 02:17:09.639 --> 02:17:11.280 not sure what we want to do. I don't trust 2650 02:17:11.360 --> 02:17:12.559 him at this point, I'll. 2651 02:17:12.360 --> 02:17:15.280 Even do I don't even but but here's the thing, 2652 02:17:15.440 --> 02:17:19.120 Oh my god, this is terrible. We we really really 2653 02:17:19.440 --> 02:17:21.799 really need to take this. Do you know it could 2654 02:17:21.799 --> 02:17:25.520 be a crime the Contractor's Trust Act, Not that it 2655 02:17:25.639 --> 02:17:30.440 matters hardly anybody does anything about it. But it could 2656 02:17:30.520 --> 02:17:31.079 be a crime. 2657 02:17:32.719 --> 02:17:36.840 Now, crime in mine I mean, what's that. It's a 2658 02:17:36.920 --> 02:17:38.239 crime for sure in my mind. 2659 02:17:38.639 --> 02:17:41.680 Yeah, no, no, no, I know, I know, especially if 2660 02:17:41.719 --> 02:17:43.920 he didn't put that money in trust. Who wants to 2661 02:17:44.040 --> 02:17:46.280 call this? You want to scare the hell out of him? 2662 02:17:49.719 --> 02:17:52.680 All right, hold on, we're gonna we're hold on, hold on. 2663 02:17:52.840 --> 02:17:55.559 We're going to assign this to somebody to shake him 2664 02:17:55.639 --> 02:17:59.079 up a little. Okay, can you hang on, We're going 2665 02:17:59.159 --> 02:18:02.639 to get your information. Let's give this to Doc Kachina. 2666 02:18:03.479 --> 02:18:06.479 All right. I'm so sorry for you, but let's try 2667 02:18:06.520 --> 02:18:09.959 to do what we can. I'm Tom Martino. Wow, what 2668 02:18:10.079 --> 02:18:12.799 a busy day. We're out of time. Remember three oh 2669 02:18:12.879 --> 02:18:15.280 three Martino three O three six two seven eight four 2670 02:18:15.399 --> 02:18:17.760 sixty six. Save all your problems for me.