Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, the Great America. Welcome this war. It's wonderful
Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoon, the tri State after the great debate of
Speaker 1: last night with jad Vance, who goes to the same
Speaker 1: church that I go to. And secondly, Tim Wallas, it
Speaker 1: looked like he didn't have his dentures in half the time.
Speaker 1: Coming up on Sunday course of the Redgs and I'm
Speaker 1: sorry the Reds, the Bengals, the Bengals and the Ravens
Speaker 1: teed up about one o'clock at the pay Corse Stadium
Speaker 1: getting ready for that and so much more. But I
Speaker 1: was kind of shocked at the debate last night, even
Speaker 1: MSNBC and nice things to say about jd Vance that
Speaker 1: could be the kiss of death. But nonetheless a column
Speaker 1: by Curtis Halk of Media Research Center, he wrote this
Speaker 1: on October the first, which I think last night pointed
Speaker 1: out what occurred a star contrast, he said, moderate folksy
Speaker 1: football coach Walls versus weird and dangerous jd Vance. And
Speaker 1: then the debate happened last night. And first of all,
Speaker 1: Curtis Halk, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. You're
Speaker 1: with Media Research Center news Busters. Give me your references
Speaker 1: to the debate last night this Wednesday afternoon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Bill, I always pleasure to be with you.
Speaker 2: I just I think there's a couple of things here
Speaker 2: going on. Number One, I think it's definitely a tell
Speaker 2: that jd Vance did so well and the liberal media
Speaker 2: know it that they're resorting to doing a couple of things.
Speaker 2: Number One, focusing so much on January sixth and abortion.
Speaker 2: ABC's Good Morning America really made that the central focus
Speaker 2: of their post debate coverage.
Speaker 3: Their coverage on Good.
Speaker 2: Morning America's arguing, as Jonathan Carl did, that this election
Speaker 2: is not really about policy or you know those testy
Speaker 2: concerns Americans have about oh, I don't know, the economy, housing, immigration,
Speaker 2: the border, of the schools. Who No, it's really no, no, no,
Speaker 2: It's really about democracy. And Jade Vance's answer ninety minutes
Speaker 2: of debate, that's what we need to talk about, and
Speaker 2: this is what defines the debate to this, I'd be like,
Speaker 2: it just shows how out of touch they are and
Speaker 2: why it was such an insane decision to give ABC
Speaker 2: this debate the presidential debate last month, so we have
Speaker 2: that going on as well. I think that's definitely a
Speaker 2: theme that we saw as well throughout the post debate coverage.
Speaker 2: MSM Seed did this, CNN kept doing this as well,
Speaker 2: Abby Phillip and Dana Bashi and Jake Taffer. The Spin
Speaker 2: room kept coming back to January sixth, despite what Scott
Speaker 2: Jennings was trying to do and talking about Walls's radicalism
Speaker 2: on abortion and his lack of clarity, I guess to
Speaker 2: be charitable when it comes to his resume, and overall,
Speaker 2: I think obviously the moderators as well were definitely a
Speaker 2: huge story as well. Noradonnell, Margaret Brennan. We're definitely on
Speaker 2: the pompous side, I would say.
Speaker 3: And we have a.
Speaker 2: Story up by er Nick Vonakara where we graded the questions.
Speaker 2: He crunched the numbers and found that there were twelve
Speaker 2: questions from the left see neutral and only five from
Speaker 2: the right.
Speaker 4: Which is better than normally.
Speaker 1: I mean, really, so twenty eight of the twenty eight
Speaker 1: of the thirty three were either from the left wing
Speaker 1: or neutral, and then you had five of the thirty
Speaker 1: three that had a conservative One of the worst parts
Speaker 1: I thought was the opening remarks or answer to the
Speaker 1: questions by Tim Wallace.
Speaker 4: He looked scared. He looked frightened here that why did
Speaker 4: I look like? Who am I?
Speaker 1: What am I doing here? And then the denture problem,
Speaker 1: it looked like he didn't have his dentures incorrectly. He
Speaker 1: looked scared to death. And when I asked about Tianaman Square,
Speaker 1: which of course he lied about. If I was in
Speaker 1: or around Tianeman Square when the tanks went up against
Speaker 1: that dude, I'd never forget that.
Speaker 4: But he flatly lied about that.
Speaker 1: And then the answer was, well, you know, I was
Speaker 1: born in Nebraska, and I was riding my bike when
Speaker 1: the lights went on, I had to go home. I'm
Speaker 1: a Nebraska kind of a guy. I was born in
Speaker 1: a ditch. I used to lick water from puddles in
Speaker 1: a ditch. That's where I came from.
Speaker 2: He never answered the question, well, it's like he channeled
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris saying, well, you know, I grew up in
Speaker 2: the middle class family. You know, I think we're gonna
Speaker 2: see how much he uses that. Well, then he does
Speaker 2: this whole thing on a knucklehead. And then when he
Speaker 2: was asked in the Dana Bash interview, he did with
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris a little more than a month ago. They
Speaker 2: were like, he said, well, I really don't have good grammar, Like.
Speaker 4: What, oh, I'm a knucklehead.
Speaker 2: Like Scott Jennings on CNN last night was like, his
Speaker 2: excuses basically come down.
Speaker 5: To, well, I'm too.
Speaker 2: Dumb you guys to like know where I was like,
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, we can talk about how Donald Trump
Speaker 2: and Bellish is in yes, lies. But the idea then
Speaker 2: that we're not going to be talk about or we're
Speaker 2: not allowed to talk about how other candidates the Democratic
Speaker 2: ticket has both candidates have huge holes in the resumes
Speaker 2: is ridiculous. In fact, I think actually it would give
Speaker 2: the media a lot more credibility if they were willing
Speaker 2: to fact check and really dig into the resumes of
Speaker 2: the Democratic Party. But they are so scared pantless their
Speaker 2: own audience that they would be seen as both.
Speaker 1: Sides ing you can't do that, you can't be fair
Speaker 1: and independent. And you have in your column, which is
Speaker 1: really you brought the receipts you have quotes. Vans has
Speaker 1: been described as quote weird, dangerous, anti woman who believes
Speaker 1: the supremacy of whiteness and masculinity.
Speaker 4: Where the hell did that come from?
Speaker 1: JD Vance is about the supremacy of whiteness and masculinity,
Speaker 1: who said that.
Speaker 2: This is just a grab bag at we got this,
Speaker 2: and we got this, and you know JD Vance's this
Speaker 2: and uh, Donald Trump and his campaign are the ones
Speaker 2: that need to tone down the rhetoric after Donald Trump
Speaker 2: got shot in the head, like, what are you talking about? Uh,
Speaker 2: that was Margaret Brennan also lobbying that nonsense as well,
Speaker 2: So going into the bit, we knew exactly what was
Speaker 2: going to happen here. David Muir and Lindsay Davis Navcy debate,
Speaker 2: their fact checking was much more scripted. They admitted to
Speaker 2: this afterward. H David Muore's a sub many places. He's
Speaker 2: not a very smart man. He's kind of Ron Burgundy
Speaker 2: of news anchors. His sense of structure is an offense
Speaker 2: to preschoolers, Whereas Nora Donnell and Margaret Brennan are a
Speaker 2: little bit more condescending in their fact checking, Like Jade
Speaker 2: Vance would finish n answer and then they would state
Speaker 2: whatever gobbledy book they wanted to say, but they didn't
Speaker 2: direct it advanced. They didn't say, well, Senator Vance, blah
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah. They just set it all smug
Speaker 2: and moved on. And if like your vance, you're like
Speaker 2: what a simple know, a simple note would have been sufficient.
Speaker 1: Curtis Halk of the Media Research Center NewsBusters, you also
Speaker 1: have something posted from a CBS correspondent who said Tim
Speaker 1: Waltz is an attack dog, but he's so joyful and
Speaker 1: jolly as he bites. I'm thinking the marshmallow Man, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about the Ghostbusters.
Speaker 4: He's the marshmallow Man.
Speaker 6: He's an attack dog, but he's so joyful and jolly
Speaker 6: when he bites.
Speaker 4: That's him.
Speaker 2: He's joyful wood stab you to death?
Speaker 4: This like what?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 2: You wonder the journalists sometimes though, are the just like
Speaker 2: is this a mad libs exerciens for some of these
Speaker 2: people like, Oh, I'm just gonna pull an sat word
Speaker 2: out of here so I can like seem like I'm
Speaker 2: really smart and going after Republicans, or I'm gonna create
Speaker 2: some crude analogy. That's what you just feel like they
Speaker 2: do in a lot of these production meetings, they just
Speaker 2: wonder because they say the same thing every day, so
Speaker 2: they realize that we're gonna say we got to talk
Speaker 2: about our hate for Republicans differently and and that's really
Speaker 2: what I think it comes down to.
Speaker 1: And how about this one, Rachel Maddow, I have a
Speaker 1: My executive producer is Tony Benner. He often tells me
Speaker 1: how much he loves Rachel Maddow, and Rachel Maddow smeared.
Speaker 1: Jd Vance is a fashion speech squasher. I don't know
Speaker 1: what a fascist speech squasher is, but that's what Rachel
Speaker 1: Mannou said. Jadvance is a fascist speech squasher.
Speaker 4: What the hell's that?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 4: What is that?
Speaker 3: Don't even mean?
Speaker 2: They pointed out how he's like he's his attacks on
Speaker 2: liberal academia put him in the same like realm as
Speaker 2: like Nazis.
Speaker 1: Yes, Jade Vance, Yes he's a speech squasher. Well do
Speaker 1: you think somehow you know? One thing I've noticed, and
Speaker 1: Curtis howk you're a great observer of the political scene,
Speaker 1: is that the Democrat liberals have wonderfully phrased the abortion
Speaker 1: arguments quote reproductive freedom, and they talk about the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five manifesto that the candidates have rejected that talks
Speaker 1: about a registry when you get pregnant, that women must
Speaker 1: line up in the handmade tail and you gotta line
Speaker 1: up and say I missed my period. I missed my period,
Speaker 1: and there'll be a federal registry kept for women who
Speaker 1: missed period.
Speaker 4: Then they stop headed up by JD.
Speaker 1: Vans to show up your door to see how far
Speaker 1: along you are with your pregnancy, and then they're going
Speaker 1: to monitor the pregnancy, et cetera.
Speaker 4: Does anyway, But would anyone believe this?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 2: And the thing is even CNN Daniel Dale, the snibbling
Speaker 2: little Home Monitor Canadian on CNN like H like is
Speaker 2: that's not quite it? H. And this is why the
Speaker 2: left is so insidious.
Speaker 4: Bill.
Speaker 2: You have to connect it to the previous discussion about
Speaker 2: Rachel Manow and dance and academia. They sometimes go on
Speaker 2: these long benders where they just kind of weave and
Speaker 2: wave and they try to make all these historical connections
Speaker 2: and comparisons, so they kind of just muddy the waters.
Speaker 2: So that because they seem really smart and they had
Speaker 2: a lot of words behind it, like that means it
Speaker 2: must be true.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And they do this with Project twenty twenty five in
Speaker 2: abortion and if not true at all, it has to
Speaker 2: do with simply submitting anonymous pregnancy data and miscarriage data
Speaker 2: that would be submitted to AHHS and all States act.
Speaker 2: A lot of states actually do this apparently, or some
Speaker 2: of it. Sometimes it's required. So that's if it's already happening.
Speaker 2: I guess we already live in Handmaid's tale world.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, you know, I don't get it.
Speaker 1: But the liberals have correctly, from their perspective, define abortion
Speaker 1: as reproductive freedom. Less than one percent of abortions care
Speaker 1: or health is healthcare. To kill a baby, that's healthcare.
Speaker 1: It's not healthcare to the baby. It's just the opposite
Speaker 1: of healthcare. And when you bring up the factor, well,
Speaker 1: at what point between zero and forty weeks would it
Speaker 1: be wrong for a woman a mother. By the way,
Speaker 1: women have babies and not men, I'm wrong for a
Speaker 1: woman a mother to kill a unborn baby is seven
Speaker 1: month or eighth month. The first thing out of the
Speaker 1: mouth is that doesn't happen. But it does. Every year
Speaker 1: there's about six to seven thousand abortions have healthy babies
Speaker 1: after six months, which is six to seven thousand lives
Speaker 1: snuffed out. And the second thing about that is this
Speaker 1: idea that baby.
Speaker 4: Born alive is not a fact.
Speaker 1: In fact, the Democrats in Congress vetoed the other day
Speaker 1: at an action that said, if a baby happens to
Speaker 1: be born alive during a botched abortion, that the doctor
Speaker 1: must use reasonable medical care to save the baby's life
Speaker 1: that he just tried to kill. But the Democrats don't
Speaker 1: want to do that because they want to have abortion
Speaker 1: through forty weeks.
Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, exactly. Scott James brought this up on CNN
Speaker 2: last night. During Kim Wall's tenure as governor, state data
Speaker 2: from the Minnesota Department at Health has revealed that there
Speaker 2: have been eight deaths of infants who survived abortion attempts. Now,
Speaker 2: under the Minnesota abortion law, doctors are under no requirement
Speaker 2: or oath to administer care to any child that survives abortion.
Speaker 2: And he brought that up last night and the liberal
Speaker 2: panel David Axerod, fake Republican Melissa Fara Griffin, and former
Speaker 2: Obama official along with Aserrod Ashley Allison all completely lost
Speaker 2: their minds talking about, Oh, do you think this is complicated?
Speaker 2: You know, these children were probably headed for really tough
Speaker 2: lives and it's no one's business. It shouldn't be anyone's
Speaker 2: business what women do to their babies. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: just really gruesome stuff. And at the end, Scott said
Speaker 2: I have to speak up for the babies. They're not
Speaker 2: here to speak for themselves percy.
Speaker 1: Oh, and then he also brought up the fact that
Speaker 1: government controlling your bodies. What the hell happened during COVID vaccine,
Speaker 1: didn't the government and corporate Amerge say I control your
Speaker 1: body and you will get the injection whether you're liking
Speaker 1: it or you can't leave your house, and we don't
Speaker 1: want to control your body though. Reproductive freedom, my butt.
Speaker 1: It it's all about, and the vaccine had to be done.
Speaker 1: And large employers. You can't leave your home, you can't
Speaker 1: go to church. We're gonna put in Kentucky the governor
Speaker 1: Kentucky Bashir put cops at the entry way of churches
Speaker 1: as she kept over from strip clubs and liquor stores.
Speaker 4: But guess what, we don't control your body.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable, Yeah, unbelievable. It's healthcare.
Speaker 3: It is care.
Speaker 2: There's caring, kill killing.
Speaker 4: Oh really growth.
Speaker 1: Lastly, Rachel Madow tied jd Vance to a series of
Speaker 1: anti Semitic and fascist revolutionaries who want at the universities
Speaker 1: destroyed the nineteen thirties and forties because they spread communist ideas.
Speaker 1: So this guy from Middletown, Ohio, who went to the
Speaker 1: Marine Corps so he had the GI bill to go
Speaker 1: to Ohios. Date, Dan Yale is somehow tied to destroying universities.
Speaker 1: So if the truth doesn't work, make something up.
Speaker 2: Right, less than one percent of Harvard faculty identify as conservative.
Speaker 2: Don't you think that's a problem. See, this is a thing.
Speaker 2: Left doesn't think that's a problem because they believe they
Speaker 2: are on the side of truth. So if there is
Speaker 2: an ideological imbalance, they say, too bad, because we're the
Speaker 2: right lies so much anyway, they think the bias is
Speaker 2: not only happening, it is good. It's just like with abortion.
Speaker 2: They're now at the point with late term abortions where
Speaker 2: they're not denying it's happening, and in fact they're going
Speaker 2: to say, yes, it is happening, and it's as good.
Speaker 2: With vance, you just make the she just made this
Speaker 2: insane comparison when literally all he said is said, here's
Speaker 2: one quote that she took issue with. The universities do
Speaker 2: not pursue knowledge and truth. They pursue deceit and lies,
Speaker 2: Nazi rhetoric.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Lastly, CNN panel loses it when Lonely Scott Jennings mentions
Speaker 1: abortion survivors left to die in Minnesota, and because he
Speaker 1: was so accurate, that panel had to shout him down immediately,
Speaker 1: including pro choice so called Republican Elisa Farren, Griffin, David
Speaker 1: axleron Asley Allison. They exploded the idea that abortion kills
Speaker 1: unborn babies that are generally healthy, and they could not
Speaker 1: allow that thought to get out there, could they?
Speaker 2: No? No, no, no, absolutely not. I mean, Scott brings the
Speaker 2: facts on CNN on a daily basis. You see how
Speaker 2: uncomfortable they get when he just merely brings up very
Speaker 2: basic facts. What's funny was Yeah, Lisa Farrow was like,
Speaker 2: where did you get that?
Speaker 4: He said from the Minnesota Department of Health?
Speaker 7: True?
Speaker 2: And yeah, I say, yeah, I just said it was
Speaker 2: a department of health, Like.
Speaker 4: Oh boy, some maga blog.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Well, lastly, I said to a friend of mine that
Speaker 1: I hope this is the last debate. And Donald Trump
Speaker 1: does not do well in debates. His policies work, his
Speaker 1: debating tactics do not. Would you agree with me? Curtis
Speaker 1: Halk of the media research centernewsbusters dot org that this
Speaker 1: needs to be the last debate because many states are voting.
Speaker 1: In fact, I'm going to vote next week absentee, which
Speaker 1: is stupid. We should vote for four days before the election.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 1: But uh, would you encourage Donald Trump to know his role,
Speaker 1: shut his mouth, go to the rallies and get elected president.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he's exactly right to not want to
Speaker 2: participate in a debate right now. ABC can be all
Speaker 2: starky and condescending like they were this morning. Rachel Scott said, well,
Speaker 2: he debated in late October in twenty sixteen, twenty twenty. Well,
Speaker 2: you can say in retrospect that was the wrong idea
Speaker 2: because you exactly write states. There are states where people
Speaker 2: have been able to vote for multiple weeks at this
Speaker 2: point in early voting. So that's why having debates in.
Speaker 10: Like June is such a better idea.
Speaker 2: At this point, have the debates before people can actually vote.
Speaker 2: And I think Jadie Vance was just so polished. I
Speaker 2: think it was one of the strongest debate performances by
Speaker 2: a Republican in quite some time.
Speaker 1: The only thing close to it is when Billy Boy
Speaker 1: Clinton in nineteen ninety two approached the camera and said,
Speaker 1: I can feel your pain and also your daughter's chest,
Speaker 1: but I added that little part. I eded that field,
Speaker 1: but I can feel your pain.
Speaker 2: We'll go down like Stockdale.
Speaker 5: You know that was here.
Speaker 4: Give me my dentest. Let me get him in.
Speaker 1: This is beautiful but great website, NewsBusters dot Org. Curtis Hawck,
Speaker 1: once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham
Speaker 1: Show and breaking down last night's great debate.
Speaker 2: Always a pleasure, Bill, Go Bangals. Hopefully we can keep
Speaker 2: it rolling on Sunday.
Speaker 4: Hopefully.
Speaker 2: You know he kind of rake the ship.
Speaker 4: Well, the Ravens look pretty good.
Speaker 1: They got a pretty good rushing attack, and the Bengals
Speaker 1: defense is like the Magineo line in nineteen forty when
Speaker 1: the Nazis went around it.
Speaker 4: But nonetheless, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 1: All right, Curtis Halck, you're a great American, and thank
Speaker 1: you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Curtis. Carry on, folks, God bless America.
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Speaker 1: the Great debate was last night.
Speaker 4: I'm proud of JD.
Speaker 1: Vans, who goes to my church by the way, met
Speaker 1: him about eight years ago. Good guy, normal, and Ohio
Speaker 1: is largely being ignored by the national media because we're
Speaker 1: not in play anymore. I remember the good old days
Speaker 1: that Iowa, Ohio and Florida or at the epicenter of
Speaker 1: getting elected to the presidency if you're a Republican. In fact,
Speaker 1: no Republican president in American history won Iowa, Ohio and
Speaker 1: Florida and still easily lost the election other than Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: He did it.
Speaker 1: He won Iowa, Ohio, Florida by wide margins that somehow
Speaker 1: he lost the election in twenty twenty. And so I
Speaker 1: thought the debate performance was quite good. I know it
Speaker 1: was great because MSNBC had to admit after the debate
Speaker 1: that JD. Vance did a pretty damn good job and
Speaker 1: that Grandpa looked like he didn't have his dentures in correctly,
Speaker 1: and he had that stare at the far look like
Speaker 1: the marshmallow man, Who am I? What am I doing here?
Speaker 1: Not a good performance. It raises the idea there's been
Speaker 1: reporting that Kamala Harris had insomnia, wasn't feeling well on
Speaker 1: the day she had to pick her choice. Mark Kelly
Speaker 1: to me, was the obvious choice from Arizona because he's
Speaker 1: from a swing state. He's popular in Arizona. His wife,
Speaker 1: Gabby Giffords was shot in an assassination attempt by a
Speaker 1: crazy guy he was. He's around the earth a few times.
Speaker 1: He is an aeronautical engineer. The other choice was Josh Shapiro,
Speaker 1: a governor of Pennsylvania, which would have been the best selection.
Speaker 1: But there's so much anti Semitism and Jewish hate inside
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party that the Democrats could not select a
Speaker 1: jew to be on the ticket. That says a lot
Speaker 1: about the Democratic Party, doesn't it. And you might know
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump has Jewish grandchildren, so he has different feelings.
Speaker 1: So the person left was I guess that Tim Walls
Speaker 1: and didn't play well at all last night, and more
Speaker 1: information is coming out about him and about Doug m Off,
Speaker 1: the husband of Kamala Harrison. It all it's all bad,
Speaker 1: and Tim Wallas is a clown. But if you're a
Speaker 1: Democrat and MINESDA, you're going to be elected to the
Speaker 1: governor's position. That state's going completely blue. Much like in
Speaker 1: Hamilton County Democrats are going to win everything except I
Speaker 1: hope the Prosecutor's office Melissa Powers is doing a great
Speaker 1: job or spots are out, but that's a different story.
Speaker 1: But by selecting if she was on some binger and
Speaker 1: couldn't sleep and didn't have her wits about her, I
Speaker 1: have no idea why. Assuming the Democrats did not want
Speaker 1: a Jew representing them, which is where the Democratic Party
Speaker 1: is today, that is Josh Shapiro, he would have been
Speaker 1: the best and almost what it may have taken Pennsylvania
Speaker 1: off the table. But nonetheless, she selected someone who performed
Speaker 1: quite poorly last night and doesn't seem to be up
Speaker 1: on the issues. Tim Walls, and of course he lied repeatedly,
Speaker 1: and Jade Vance had to overcome Tim Walls, which was
Speaker 1: somewhat easy, but also the two inquisitors from CBS News,
Speaker 1: Mario Brennan and also Nora O'Donnell had to overcome both
Speaker 1: of them in order to win the debate by any
Speaker 1: fair measurement. One poll was he won eighty percent of
Speaker 1: the votes and many people that saw a different character,
Speaker 1: a different person than the media as told about about
Speaker 1: jd Vance up to this point, So that's interesting. A
Speaker 1: couple other stories to get out in the public domain.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you read the New York Post,
Speaker 1: which I try to read everything in the morning to
Speaker 1: get ready for you. This morning, at ten thirty three am,
Speaker 1: a big Colin was posted at the New York Post.
Speaker 1: Doug m Off accused of force fully slapping New York
Speaker 1: City girlfriend flirting with another man at a ritzy gala
Speaker 1: in twenty twelve. You may know that in twenty thirteen,
Speaker 1: Doug m Off proposed to Kamala Harris and they got
Speaker 1: married in twenty fourteen. According to this report, women have
Speaker 1: come forward to indicate that second gentleman, Doug m All
Speaker 1: fifty nine years old, struck his then girlfriend, a successful
Speaker 1: fellow New York attorney and the face so hard she
Speaker 1: spun around in a valet line after an event at
Speaker 1: the Con Film Festival in May of twenty twelve.
Speaker 4: I don't know about you. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Too many people going to the Con Film Festival, and
Speaker 1: three unnamed girlfriends reported to the truthfulness of this report.
Speaker 1: The woman, who is asked not to be identified because
Speaker 1: of fear of retaliation by the Democrats, allegedly called one
Speaker 1: of her girlfriends sobbing in the cab. Immediately after the incident,
Speaker 1: she said, I don't know what to call the French police.
Speaker 4: How do you do it? Here? He hurt me.
Speaker 1: We were on a date and he claimed that I
Speaker 1: flirted with some other guy and he just whacked her.
Speaker 1: At three am in the morning, they were out trying
Speaker 1: to get out of the Han Film Festival. There was
Speaker 1: a giant, gigantic line of taxis, and so he went
Speaker 1: up to the valet, offered one hundred dollars bill of euros.
Speaker 1: He got to the head of the line, the valet
Speaker 1: took the one hundred dollars and while he was waiting
Speaker 1: for the car to come up. Allegedly, this date of
Speaker 1: his a fellow, an attorney female from New York City,
Speaker 1: started flirting with some other guy in the line and
Speaker 1: they were both drunk. Doug m off in his date
Speaker 1: the first gentleman. According to The New York Times, my
Speaker 1: impression was Doug had a lot to drink and I
Speaker 1: was sobbing on the phone. I didn't know what to do.
Speaker 1: The pair had been dating each other for about three months.
Speaker 1: It was the first exciting date overseas. They had dinner.
Speaker 1: She said Doug m Off was very charming. It was lovely.
Speaker 1: Each of us had quite a few drinks, and between
Speaker 1: two and three am we were still under the influence.
Speaker 1: I was wearing four inch high heels and floor length gown.
Speaker 1: It was time to depart, and there had been no
Speaker 1: fighting up to that point. He simply hauled off and
Speaker 1: builded me. I didn't know what to do. I said,
Speaker 1: what the f was that all about. I tried to
Speaker 1: slap him back, but couldn't. She's very embarrassed by the incident,
Speaker 1: causing minor injuries to her face. That is the first gentleman,
Speaker 1: Doug m Off, who MSNBC interviewed the other day, calling
Speaker 1: him the future of American macho. Somehow, Doug em Off
Speaker 1: represents the new American male who wants his wife to
Speaker 1: be successful, which is a bunch of crap. I've been
Speaker 1: married to a successful woman for about fifty years, and
Speaker 1: from the time she went to college and law school
Speaker 1: and became a magistrate and a judge, and a judge
Speaker 1: and a judge, and now she has certain state positions
Speaker 1: she holds. I've always supported my wife. I don't know
Speaker 1: a man who doesn't. We don't need to be taught
Speaker 1: by Doug Amahoff how to treat women. So we're going
Speaker 1: to see over the next few days what comes of this.
Speaker 1: I would predict little or nothing will come of it,
Speaker 1: because it is so bad for the image of the
Speaker 1: new male. Doug m Off who number one, knocked up
Speaker 1: his nanny, got her pregnant, and this was a nanny
Speaker 1: that was nineteen years old at the time. I guess
Speaker 1: it was legal in a sense, but he impregnated his
Speaker 1: nanny and there was no reporting how quickly she made
Speaker 1: the trip to Planning Parando to kill the baby. But nonetheless,
Speaker 1: now there's sexual assault items coming forward about Doug m
Speaker 1: Off in twenty twelve, which wasn't at the same time
Speaker 1: he impregnated his babysitter. So that is the new gentleman.
Speaker 1: The all of us have to look forward to a
Speaker 1: lawyer who impregnates his nanny and then slaps a girlfriend
Speaker 1: of the con Film festival and the woman says a
Speaker 1: girlfriend of the woman says, she's gorgeous, She's a strong woman.
Speaker 1: She would never expect someone like Doug to hit her
Speaker 1: like that. When he hit her, she tried to hit
Speaker 1: him back and said, don't ever do that again. I asked,
Speaker 1: if you ever apologize? She said no, so they broke up.
Speaker 1: Now I can only imagine if jd Vance had engaged
Speaker 1: in similar misbehavior, if jd Vance had pregnanted a babysitter
Speaker 1: and then I assume pay for the abortion and then
Speaker 1: slap a girlfriend, what the media would have done with
Speaker 1: that one. But em Off allegedly entered the trip Early
Speaker 1: returned to his home base in Los Angeles for his daughter,
Speaker 1: Ella's thirteenth birthday, and he and he and the lawyer
Speaker 1: from New York City the female never saw each other again.
Speaker 1: And also there's pictures in the story. So if you
Speaker 1: want to go to the New York Post today, it's
Speaker 1: up there, and let's see what happens. May I suggest
Speaker 1: nothing doesn't fit? Does It doesn't fit the new American
Speaker 1: supportive male who impregnates his nanny and slaps a girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Doesn't fit the narrative of what the Democrats want to
Speaker 1: tell you, So that won't arise. Plus, a friend of
Speaker 1: mine texted me something last night during the Great Debate
Speaker 1: with the VPS, and he says to me, if you
Speaker 1: kill a pregnant woman and a negligent or intentional act,
Speaker 1: you're charged with the death of both. So, assuming that
Speaker 1: unborn baby is like a callous or a growth or
Speaker 1: something other than the human being, how's it possible that
Speaker 1: Most states, including Ohio Indiana, have laws that if you
Speaker 1: kill recklessly, negligently, or intentionally a pregnant woman, you're charged
Speaker 1: with the death of that woman, but also with the
Speaker 1: death of the unborn baby.
Speaker 4: Right, So how's it not a baby?
Speaker 1: Secondly, the Department of HHS in Washington says the pre
Speaker 1: natal care begins at the sixth week of pregnancy. You
Speaker 1: must get it by the tenth week of pregnancy because
Speaker 1: that's when the heart begins to beat six weeks into
Speaker 1: the deal, that is a baby. You know, a growth,
Speaker 1: a cancer, tumor a callous inside your body doesn't have
Speaker 1: a separate heartbeat.
Speaker 4: Would you agree?
Speaker 1: And so if the government says, in one hand, if
Speaker 1: you kill a pregnant woman, you're charged with two deaths
Speaker 1: because that baby is a baby. And secondly, if the
Speaker 1: federal government says you must have pre natal care between
Speaker 1: the sixth and the tenth week, prenatal care means pre
Speaker 1: birth of a.
Speaker 4: Baby, it is a baby. Right, So how are those
Speaker 4: three things consistent? They're not?
Speaker 1: They talk constantly about reproductive rights right. Women and men
Speaker 1: have a duty in the right. They have reproductive rights
Speaker 1: right you absent rape and incest, which is less than
Speaker 1: one percent of abortions. A woman then voluntarily has sex
Speaker 1: with a man and she gets pregnant. Could she have
Speaker 1: stopped at ahead of time her reproductive rights by using
Speaker 1: birth control pills or a diaphragm or the how about
Speaker 1: plan B two to four days after unprotected sex, wash
Speaker 1: it out of your body, never gets to the point
Speaker 1: of having an unborn baby, so they have to they've
Speaker 1: won the argument about reproductive rights and the health of
Speaker 1: the mother. What happens to the unborn baby during an
Speaker 1: abortion is out about health care to the baby, the
Speaker 1: great majority of whom are females that are aborted. Man,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, so we'll see what happens down
Speaker 1: the road. But once again, it's pointed out by a
Speaker 1: friend of mine that when you intentionally or negligently kill
Speaker 1: a pregnant woman, you're charged with two deaths, not one.
Speaker 4: So how's that not a baby?
Speaker 1: Separate life, separate soul, separate genity, code, beating, heart, brain active,
Speaker 1: whatever it is that is a baby. And so the
Speaker 1: Democrats can't answer to the fact is when you suck
Speaker 1: a baby and dismember a baby in the womb, that
Speaker 1: is a human being with eyes and toes and feet
Speaker 1: and a smile and teeth and brain activity.
Speaker 4: That is a baby.
Speaker 6: If a woman doesn't want to get pregnant, God knows,
Speaker 6: there's multitude of ways to not get pregnant, absent rape
Speaker 6: and incest, which is less than one percent. So the
Speaker 6: great bulk of these abortions are killing unborn babies. And
Speaker 6: I would say live with it now. Secondly, I was
Speaker 6: asked by a female friend of mine this morning, why
Speaker 6: in the hell are you voting for Trump? Because he's
Speaker 6: crude and he's rude and he's nasty. And I said
Speaker 6: to this woman, I was out of breakfast and I said, ma'am,
Speaker 6: I'm not.
Speaker 4: Voting for Donald Trump. Now listen again. I said, I'm
Speaker 4: not voting for Trump, and I'm not voting for jd. Vance.
Speaker 4: I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1: What I'm voting for is the First Amendment, freedom of
Speaker 1: speech and freedom of religion.
Speaker 4: I'm voting.
Speaker 1: I'm voting for the right of my opinion not to
Speaker 1: be censored by the federal government that will use the
Speaker 1: power of the Department of Justice to shut down any
Speaker 1: negative media post about COVID or about Joe Biden and
Speaker 1: will be eliminated. I'm not voting for Trump. I'm voting
Speaker 1: to seal our national boarders.
Speaker 6: And I'm voting for legal immigration, choosing who wants to
Speaker 6: come here.
Speaker 4: I'm voting for that.
Speaker 1: I'm voting in a sense for the Second Amendment so
Speaker 1: i can defend myself and my family. I'm voting for
Speaker 1: police officers and corrections officers and deputy sheriff. Yes, I'm
Speaker 1: voting for those who save us to be respected once again.
Speaker 1: I'm voting for law and order. I'm voting for personal
Speaker 1: responsibility in the end of the revolving door where criminals
Speaker 1: were back on the street quickly. I'm voting for the
Speaker 1: return of our troops from foreign countries. When Kamala Harris
Speaker 1: said about three weeks ago, no one American soldier is
Speaker 1: in harm's way, she forgot about Syria and Lebanon, for
Speaker 1: out about Iraq, where American soldiers are killed and injured
Speaker 1: repeatedly by Iranian militias.
Speaker 4: I'm voting for that. That's what I'm voting for.
Speaker 1: I'm voting for the appointment of conservative federal judges that
Speaker 1: will not create law but interpret I'm voting for progress
Speaker 1: in the Middle East. I'm voting to keep men out
Speaker 1: of women's sports. I'm voting for freedom of my religion
Speaker 1: practicing a Roman Catholic. I'm voting for the return of
Speaker 1: math and reading and science instead of indoctrination in our schools.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm voting for. I'm not voting for Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: I'm voting for those principles. So if you think Donald
Speaker 1: Trump is gross, if you think he's ugly, he's got
Speaker 1: a bad hairdoo, not as coherent as he once was,
Speaker 1: or that he's not as good as JD.
Speaker 4: Vans. I had a few texts saying I wish that
Speaker 4: guy was the president. JD. Vance.
Speaker 1: That guy, not the media caricature of JD but the
Speaker 1: reality of JD. Van's a guy that I've known for
Speaker 1: eight years. That's the guy I'm voting for. I'm confident
Speaker 1: in that. So I'm voting for all those other things
Speaker 1: on our rights could be eliminated in the next four
Speaker 1: to eight years in so many areas if we don't change,
Speaker 1: if we don't stop it. For the first time in
Speaker 1: American history, the Biden Harris administration has colluded with big
Speaker 1: tech to suppress political speech they consider unfriendly. Zuckerberg put
Speaker 1: up five hundred million dollars and then all of social
Speaker 1: media got calls from the FBI, from the CIA, Department
Speaker 1: of Justice. Hey, by the way, that Hunter Biden laptop,
Speaker 1: you know, is Russian disinformation And they knew it was
Speaker 1: a lie when they said it, but they coerced private
Speaker 1: companies to screen from you necessary information upon which you
Speaker 1: could cast an inform ballot. For the first time in
Speaker 1: American history, one party has attempted to remove the presidential
Speaker 1: nominee of the other major party by indictments in lawsuits.
Speaker 1: I'm voting against that. And intelligence agencies have been so
Speaker 1: politicized that fifty one current and former heads of intelligence
Speaker 1: agencies lies on behalf of Joe Biden, Kamala Harris. I'm
Speaker 1: voting against that. Wouldn't you elect to vote against that?
Speaker 1: We have a deep state. We have the fourth branch
Speaker 1: of government and the bureaucracy serving the interests of the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party. Now, I'm not a knee fight in these areas.
Speaker 1: It's going to be very difficult for Donald Trump to
Speaker 1: eliminate the Department of Education and return power to the states.
Speaker 1: It's going to be difficult to get rid of the
Speaker 1: director of the FBI, the head of the DOJ, and
Speaker 1: all the assistants and deputies. Its going to be very
Speaker 1: difficult to have the bureaucracy be restrained. Going to be difficult.
Speaker 1: But let's begin in the fight. Let's see what we
Speaker 1: can do. Let's take a short break. I'm not voting
Speaker 1: for Donald Trump. I'm voting for you and me. I'm
Speaker 1: voting against things like inflation. I'm voting in things like
Speaker 1: for a secure southern border. I'm voting against the evy mandates.
Speaker 1: I'm voting against no cash bonds, I'm voting against reparations
Speaker 1: based based upon race. I'm voting for a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of stuff. When I cast my ballot for the Republican Party,
Speaker 1: generally there'll be one or two Democrats I will vote for,
Speaker 1: including Charmaine McGuffey to be the sheriff of Hamlet County.
Speaker 1: I'm voting for that fine Democratic sheriff because she's doing
Speaker 1: a good job. But about ninety five percent of my
Speaker 1: ballot's going to be for people like Melissa Powers and
Speaker 1: Bernie and Bernie Marino, and Trump and.
Speaker 4: JD.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm voting for. Well, let's continue. Thousands on hold,
Speaker 1: millions are listening. One of my favorite guests on cable
Speaker 1: is Gordon Chang. He's a Chinese American and has written
Speaker 1: a book about what China is doing to America. Stay
Speaker 1: tuned for this. Gordon Chang is next as your Home
Speaker 1: of the Bengals and Pete Rose News Radio seven hundred
Speaker 1: w old of you.
Speaker 4: Let's continue Borland running him the Great American.
Speaker 1: But for many years I've watched Gordon Chang, who's a
Speaker 1: columnists of Newsweek, and they're contributing to Hill and the
Speaker 1: Rightful News from MACS about his knowledge about what's happening
Speaker 1: in communist red China, those hush a plain desires to
Speaker 1: do and whether or not the lots of money were
Speaker 1: paid to the Biden administration directly and indirectly to influence
Speaker 1: American policy. But the new book is out which is
Speaker 1: fabulous about what is the plan for Communist Red China
Speaker 1: And the name of the book is Plan Read China's
Speaker 1: Project to Destroy America by Gordon Chang, author of China
Speaker 1: is Going to War, which we know what's going on.
Speaker 1: There's a great fear that the weakness of America right
Speaker 1: now may be used by communist Red China to attack Taiwan.
Speaker 1: That would change the world indefinitely. And Gordon Chang, welcome,
Speaker 1: I think for the first time to the Bill Cunningham
Speaker 1: Show and Gordon Chang. Why is this book necessary today
Speaker 1: and what does this seek to inform the American people
Speaker 1: concerning to communist right China what they intend for this
Speaker 1: great country of ours.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you, Bill.
Speaker 7: I wrote the book because I believe most Americans misperceived
Speaker 7: the nature of China's quote unquote challenge to the United States.
Speaker 7: The Communist Party has declared a people's war on us,
Speaker 7: and we're Americans, so we believe that we're entitled to
Speaker 7: ignore what our enemies say. But people's war is a
Speaker 7: term with deep meaning in Communist Party thought. It means
Speaker 7: total war, and that is what China has been doing.
Speaker 7: It's been waging its brand of war, which they call
Speaker 7: unrestricted warfare. So for instance, COVID, fentanyl, intellectual property theft
Speaker 7: are all elements of this, as well as political warfare.
Speaker 7: What we've got to be extremely concerned about is that
Speaker 7: China is now waging proxy wars on three continents. You
Speaker 7: have Ukraine and Europe. You've got insurgencies that look like
Speaker 7: wars in North Africa. They're being fueled by China, and
Speaker 7: of course China backing Iran's attack on Israel. We got
Speaker 7: to be concerned that China will start a war direct
Speaker 7: war in East Asia itself, could be Taiwan, could be
Speaker 7: the Philippines, Japan, and of course right now Chinese troops
Speaker 7: are fighting Indian ones in the Himalayas. This is a
Speaker 7: world at war that China believes is in its interest.
Speaker 1: You know, Gordon Chang, When I see and I read
Speaker 1: the report of what China is doing, we got to
Speaker 1: get into the trillions of dollars that the middle class
Speaker 1: in China is losing, and also the demographics of China,
Speaker 1: which is a different issue. But historically the left says
Speaker 1: China is not expansionist, that historically, going back hundreds or
Speaker 1: thousands of years, it is not in the Chinese character
Speaker 1: to expand. Can you refute that allegation of the radical left.
Speaker 7: Well, first of all, Chinese civilization started along the Yellow
Speaker 7: River and then it expanded both north and south, and
Speaker 7: we have that did not happened peacefully. This happened through war,
Speaker 7: and then we have seen China engage in all sorts
Speaker 7: of wars to expand its territory. In nineteen seventy nine,
Speaker 7: it invaded Vietnam. In nineteen fifty at the founding of
Speaker 7: the People's Republic, which was the year before, it used
Speaker 7: troops to absorb in annexed what they call Sinjong where
Speaker 7: the Wakers and the Cossacks and the other Turkic minorities live.
Speaker 7: And then of course against Tibet. So this has been
Speaker 7: a country built on the backs of others who do
Speaker 7: not want to be part of the People's Republic or
Speaker 7: part of China.
Speaker 4: This is warfare.
Speaker 7: You don't start from a narrow river valley to become
Speaker 7: such a large country by being peaceful.
Speaker 1: Fentanyl, solar panels, theft of IP intellectual property. During all
Speaker 1: the debates, including a VP debate, you heard about fentanyl
Speaker 1: coming across the southern border. One hundred thousand Americans are
Speaker 1: killed every year through fentanyl. That number is going up
Speaker 1: if China, If Chinese citizens are caught with fentanyl, unlike
Speaker 1: their plan for America, what happens to a Chinese citizen
Speaker 1: and possession of fentanyl.
Speaker 7: Very well could be a death penalty. The penalties for
Speaker 7: drug possession and use in China are severe, unlike they
Speaker 7: are in the United States. But we know that the
Speaker 7: Communist Party has been behind the fentanyl trade. Chinese diplomats
Speaker 7: give covered to the kangs. Every container that leaves China
Speaker 7: is inspected by Chinese officials. The fentanyl gangs launder their
Speaker 7: proceeds for the Chinese state banking system. The Chinese owned
Speaker 7: TikTok promotes illicit drug use in the US. We have
Speaker 7: the near total surveillance state in China and which means
Speaker 7: these fentanyl producers could not operate without the knowledge and
Speaker 7: approval of the Communist Party. And by the way, some
Speaker 7: of the fedanel producers are state owned okay so Jijiapang.
Speaker 1: The leadership and communists right China want to kill as
Speaker 1: many Americans as possible through knowing a wide open southern border.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about penetrating American society. I know there is
Speaker 1: literally hundreds of millions of dollars. The Chinese government provides
Speaker 1: the colleges and universities to twist and turn the real
Speaker 1: goals of China. Explain how China has infiltrated our colleges
Speaker 1: and universities.
Speaker 7: Well, China uses every point of contact to undermine and
Speaker 7: take down our society. And of course they do this
Speaker 7: through not only colleges and universities with their Confucius institutes
Speaker 7: and through other means, but also in our secondary schools
Speaker 7: with the much more numerous Confucius classrooms. And what they
Speaker 7: try to do is to change the narrative about China
Speaker 7: and to prevent discussions about China that the regime does
Speaker 7: not like. They do this through the Chinese students that
Speaker 7: they have on campus. They pay tuition at full rates,
Speaker 7: and so universities are very respectful, if I can use
Speaker 7: a polite term, but essentially they're intimidated by the Chinese student.
Speaker 7: But you know, this is our country, bill We know
Speaker 7: how China controls those students. They do it through their
Speaker 7: consular officials and through Ministry of State Security operatives.
Speaker 4: And we allow this.
Speaker 7: And it's not just the current administration. Previous ones have
Speaker 7: known about this and permitted it as well. So what
Speaker 7: we need to do is break those links. As I mentioned,
Speaker 7: right now, we're being overwhelmed as a society. Our law
Speaker 7: enforcement's overwhelmed, our state government's overwhelmed. Colleges and universities, overwhelmed
Speaker 7: businesses Hollywood. Until we cut those links, we will not
Speaker 7: be able to take control of our own country.
Speaker 1: So there's tens of thousands of bright Chinese students infiltrating
Speaker 1: many major college campuses, universities, and also high schools. At
Speaker 1: the same time, there's few, if any American students allowed
Speaker 1: to go to Chinese universities. I would think that the
Speaker 1: opposite cannot be true. And then were as reporting about
Speaker 1: a year ago of Chinese police stations inside of America
Speaker 1: that keeps an eye the Chinese students and others explain
Speaker 1: their role inside of America.
Speaker 4: Of Chinese police stations.
Speaker 7: Yes, there was a Chinese police station in Chinatown and
Speaker 7: New York City which was closed by the FBI, but
Speaker 7: New York Post and Daily Caller reporting suggests that there
Speaker 7: are about nine other police stations scattered across the country.
Speaker 7: And the Chinese have been saying, well, you know, we
Speaker 7: just provide help with driver's licenses and things like that,
Speaker 7: and they make it sound benign. But even if it
Speaker 7: were just benign, it would be a violation of our
Speaker 7: sovereignty for the Chinese government to operate on our soil.
Speaker 4: Without permission.
Speaker 7: But we also know that from these police stations they
Speaker 7: also use it to monitor Chinese nationals and ethnic Chinese
Speaker 7: in the United States, including Chinese citizens American citizens of
Speaker 7: Chinese descent, and they coerced them into doing all sorts
Speaker 7: of things, including espionage. And they do it through intimidation
Speaker 7: and blackmail because many Chinese in America have relatives back
Speaker 7: in China, and they threaten to harm those relatives back
Speaker 7: in China if the Chinese in the United States don't
Speaker 7: do what this communist party wants them to. And we
Speaker 7: know this is going on, and we have done very
Speaker 7: little to stop it, with the exception, of course, of
Speaker 7: the ending of the police station in New York City,
Speaker 7: but there's many more.
Speaker 1: It's as a god fearing flag waving American, I find
Speaker 1: it incredible that the Chinese government operates military police stations
Speaker 1: inside this country to keep its population in line. That's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about weaknesses of China. I see these documentaries
Speaker 1: of trillions of dollars in the Chinese government has spent
Speaker 1: building ghost cities in which middle class Chinese are encouraged
Speaker 1: to put all their money. They don't have a stock
Speaker 1: market they're own four to one case and that's their
Speaker 1: retirement package. And there's literally thousands and thousands of buildings
Speaker 1: in China that are unoccupied because they misconstrued the market.
Speaker 1: Can you explain to the American people the trillions of
Speaker 1: dollars the Chinese government and a sense those to itself
Speaker 1: and whether the one's about to collapse?
Speaker 4: Is that true or false?
Speaker 1: About the trillions of dollars the Chinese government builds these
Speaker 1: ghost cities in which no one's living in it and
Speaker 1: they're being destroyed by the elements.
Speaker 7: Well, that's certainly true. Last September there was a former
Speaker 7: senior statistics official gave a public speech and he said
Speaker 7: that China had enough vacant apartments to house its entire
Speaker 7: population of one point four billion people. And this official said, look,
Speaker 7: you know this figure is subject to some doubt because
Speaker 7: China may have enough vacant apartments for three billion people.
Speaker 7: So you can get the sense of the dimension of
Speaker 7: the problem. Chinese people a should point out, because there
Speaker 7: are limited places where they can put their money, they
Speaker 7: have really looked at vacant apartments as currency. You know,
Speaker 7: we may have dollar, we may have stocks.
Speaker 4: We may have a few gold coins.
Speaker 7: Well, the Chinese have vacant apartments, and right now those
Speaker 7: markets or vacant apartments has collapsed, and the Chinese people
Speaker 7: have lost a substantial portion of their personal wealth because
Speaker 7: about seventy percent of the wealth of the Chinese middle
Speaker 7: class are in those vacant apartments.
Speaker 4: So what's the consequence of this.
Speaker 1: Trillions of dollars lost, one point five to two billion
Speaker 1: available units which are being destroyed by weather elements. No
Speaker 1: one's moving into them. What does that mean economically for China?
Speaker 7: It means that they're probably almost inevitably will be a crash.
Speaker 7: Beijing has been using all of its means, and it
Speaker 7: has considerable means to try to prevent this adjustment. The
Speaker 7: way to look at this is that China is now
Speaker 7: having its two thousand and eight downturn. In two thousand
Speaker 7: and eight, it didn't want to have a downturn, so
Speaker 7: it overstimulated its economy. It encouraged developers to build these
Speaker 7: ghost cities that we just talked about, but it also
Speaker 7: built high speed rail lines to nowhere and everything else.
Speaker 7: Now it's got to pay it back, and China has
Speaker 7: a problem because yes, it has a lot of foreign currency,
Speaker 7: but it doesn't have a foreign currency problem. It has
Speaker 7: a local currency problem, and they don't have enough of it.
Speaker 7: And essentially what's going on at this point is the
Speaker 7: regime is trying to prevent the adjustment. In other words,
Speaker 7: we had an adjustment in two thousand and eight. We
Speaker 7: called it a recession, a very deep recession. China's trying
Speaker 7: to prevent it, and by preventing it, they're making it worse.
Speaker 7: They now spend nine dollars to get one dollar of
Speaker 7: gross domestic product, if you can imagine that.
Speaker 1: So one of the consequences you talk about a collapse,
Speaker 1: and certainly that is possible, an absolute collapse. But I
Speaker 1: often watch Peter Zihan and others talk about the coming
Speaker 1: collapse of China. We're not talking about democh graphics yet,
Speaker 1: we'll touch out on them in But by assuming there's
Speaker 1: going to be trillions of dollars of losses and the
Speaker 1: Wan it's going to crash in value, wouldn't that make
Speaker 1: it sense from Chinese perspective to invade Taiwan at that
Speaker 1: point in a sense, to crash the economy. They're an
Speaker 1: import economy. Everything they bring into China, food and energy,
Speaker 1: fuel has to be brought in, there'd be a massive
Speaker 1: dislocation of world resources because there'd be a boycott. If
Speaker 1: there's a crisis in China, is that more likely they
Speaker 1: would invade Taiwan.
Speaker 4: Or some other place.
Speaker 7: Taiwan's not the only society that China has in the
Speaker 7: cross areas Japan, Philippines and India. And yes, I think
Speaker 7: Sidrin think he's under domestic pressures, and I think that
Speaker 7: he believes that some military misadventure abroad is it to
Speaker 7: him advantageous. I don't think he believes that he can
Speaker 7: rally the Chinese people with that, because the Chinese people
Speaker 7: certainly don't want war, and least of all, they want
Speaker 7: war against Taiwan for a lot of reasons that relate
Speaker 7: to the Chinese people seeing the people in Taiwan as Chinese,
Speaker 7: and the Chinese don't kill Chinese, although the people, by
Speaker 7: the way, in Taiwan don't consider themselves to be Chinese.
Speaker 7: But nonetheless, I think Si Jimpang knows he can't rally
Speaker 7: the Chinese people, but he believes that he can prevent
Speaker 7: other senior Communist Party leaders from deposing him if there
Speaker 7: is some sort of battle, and I think the most
Speaker 7: likely target is the Philippines. There can be a lot
Speaker 7: of discussion about where China will move. But just a
Speaker 7: couple of days ago they injured ten Vietnamese sailors and
Speaker 7: this was another attack that shows that China is lashing out.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: Lastly, demographics. I love hearing reading your stuff. The book
Speaker 1: is great and plan read and Peter Zion is another
Speaker 1: guy that I follow. He says there's a demographic a
Speaker 1: demographic crash, and which for fifty years you could have
Speaker 1: one child in China and that was generally a male child,
Speaker 1: and abortion ubiquitous in China, much like in New York
Speaker 1: or Los Angeles, but nonetheless, and that there's a big
Speaker 1: hole in the Chinese economy of people between the ages
Speaker 1: of twenty and sixty who should be growing and spending
Speaker 1: money and taking vacations, and that whole demographic collapse is
Speaker 1: going to bring about the end of China.
Speaker 4: What do you say, Gordon Chang? Will that happen?
Speaker 7: Well, China's current population is one point four billion. If
Speaker 7: you look at total fertility rates and other factors, China
Speaker 7: probably will lose two thirds of its population when this century.
Speaker 7: This will be the steepest demographic decline in history in
Speaker 7: the absence of war or disease, And essentially it means
Speaker 7: there's going to be a very different China. China, which
Speaker 7: is now more than four times as populous as the US,
Speaker 7: probably will be about the same size as when the
Speaker 7: clock strikes twenty one hundred. They may have thirty, maybe
Speaker 7: forty million people more, but China will be a middle
Speaker 7: sized country at the time of the century. And we
Speaker 7: don't know exactly how that's going to affect society because
Speaker 7: it's never happened before. But clearly China is not going
Speaker 7: to be the magnificent superstate that everyone projects.
Speaker 10: It to be.
Speaker 1: They have three times the navy, they're expansionists, and China
Speaker 1: has penetrated every part of American society to kill Americans,
Speaker 1: to miseducate kids, and it continues. The book is fabulous.
Speaker 1: I love watching you on the cable channels. Plan read
Speaker 1: China's Project to Destroy America by Gordon Chang. Great stuff.
Speaker 1: Warrants of a real and present danger facing this country.
Speaker 1: And we got so many problems. Everywhere I look, Gordon,
Speaker 1: I see chaos, I see confusion, I see floods, I
Speaker 1: see wars, I see missile exchanges everywhere I look, there's
Speaker 1: a crisis, and China over there is not in the
Speaker 1: I think the periscope of many Americans, but this book
Speaker 1: brings it to center. And Gordon Chang once again, you're
Speaker 1: a great American, and thank you for coming on the
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham Show, and please keep doing what you're doing.
Speaker 1: And Gordon Chang, thank you very much.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you, Bill.
Speaker 7: I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: God bless it. Let's continue with more. And he makes
Speaker 1: the point, does America have a plan to defend himself
Speaker 1: against China? Imagine many dozens of police stations inside of
Speaker 1: America and run by the Chinese Party to keep its
Speaker 1: population inside of America under control. And if they don't, death, disease,
Speaker 1: horrible things. What happened to that person in America or
Speaker 1: to the family members in China? Keep an eye on that.
Speaker 1: Let's continue with more. Bill cunning and the Great American
Speaker 1: Live at Room of the Bengals News Radio seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 10: So I've become friends with school shooters, and I'm a
Speaker 10: knucklehead at times.
Speaker 9: Hello, buyet, and I'm broadcasting.
Speaker 10: So I've become friends with school shooters and I'm a
Speaker 10: knucklehead at times. He said last night, I've become friend
Speaker 10: with school shooters.
Speaker 4: Who is that? Walls? Tim Wallas?
Speaker 1: He's a friend of school shooters and he's a knucklehead.
Speaker 4: I heard the Middletown Zone.
Speaker 3: JD.
Speaker 6: Vans just said, see, you would want to be in
Speaker 6: the debate last night. He even let the CBS ladies
Speaker 6: that had right then they cut his Michael, what's up
Speaker 6: with that?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 1: It was what sued him. It was one on three
Speaker 1: and one one of course one one. Yeah, now here's
Speaker 1: another story. You don't care about domestic violence?
Speaker 7: Do you?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 4: Who is it?
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris's husband, Doug m Off forcefully slapped an next
Speaker 1: girlfriend for flirting with another man and a booze fueled
Speaker 1: assault after a date to a star stud at gala.
Speaker 1: That's the second gentleman now soon to be many think
Speaker 1: the first gentleman beat up a woman?
Speaker 4: Is that news? I would say, so? Yeah? Do you think?
Speaker 6: Will you watch the CBS, NBC, ABC? What if JD
Speaker 6: Van said some girl that came forward to say JD.
Speaker 4: It'd be impeachment number seventy nine million? And he admitted
Speaker 4: that is not JD.
Speaker 6: But rather off knocking up his nanny, his babysitter when
Speaker 6: she was nineteen, he had elicit sex. So while Kamala's
Speaker 6: out running around on the southern border, he's at home.
Speaker 1: Doing a wild thing. But that was before. Maybe they're
Speaker 1: doing it on this southern border. But Doug Amoff now
Speaker 1: is knocked up a girlfriend. Yeah, I'm sorry, and nanny
Speaker 1: slapped a girlfriend and he says he's the future of
Speaker 1: manhood in the country.
Speaker 4: Of course, ms at the other side. That's it.
Speaker 1: That's it, seg The truth will set you free at
Speaker 1: some point. Can I tell you one more Pete Rose story?
Speaker 4: Go right ahead.
Speaker 6: Pete's managing the Reds as you may know, correct. I
Speaker 6: don't know the day.
Speaker 1: It was eighty seven, eighty eighty nine. He calls me,
Speaker 1: he said, Willie, all the wrestlers are in town Saturday
Speaker 1: night at Riverfront.
Speaker 4: I said, yep.
Speaker 1: He said, Little Pete would love to meet hal Cogan.
Speaker 1: I said, oh, I think I can get it done
Speaker 1: because I was doing ring announcing right and now from
Speaker 1: parts unknown. So anyway, I get there a couple hours
Speaker 1: early and Pete said, just call me, we'll come on down.
Speaker 1: I said, okay. It was like in November. It was cold,
Speaker 1: and uh, Pat we'd love to get Pete here. Would
Speaker 1: he be what he would he involved himself in the event,
Speaker 1: and I said, well, you got to ask him about that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, so I called Pete, bring him on down.
Speaker 1: I had my son Evan. We go down there, and
Speaker 1: what's a picture with Haul Cogan? So I have the
Speaker 1: picture somewhere Evan, me, Haul Cogan, Pete Junior, and Pete
Speaker 1: Rose standing there getting a picture taken. And Pat Patterson
Speaker 1: says to Pete, would you get involved in the event?
Speaker 4: He said, what do you want me to do? Now?
Speaker 6: Later on, as you know, he got the tombstone from
Speaker 6: Caine the Big Machine, and he was a chicken in
Speaker 6: the ring at one point.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I regress. So we set up this deal. Okay,
Speaker 1: the big match. It was packed at the coliseum. Would
Speaker 1: Jimmy Superfly Snooker was there? You had, mister wonderful Paul Orendry,
Speaker 1: you had all and the big match was gonna be
Speaker 1: Hogan versus Piper.
Speaker 4: The pat Patterson set it up.
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, I announced that it was about an hour and
Speaker 1: a half, two hours into it, and I announced, you
Speaker 1: start the music. Here comes Hulk Cogan running down with
Speaker 1: the American flag, you know, and I announced him.
Speaker 4: He comes into there.
Speaker 6: He runs around the flag of the American flag, and
Speaker 6: they begin to announce Rowdy Roddy Piper.
Speaker 4: Your former client, my former d UI client. That's a
Speaker 4: different story.
Speaker 1: So all of a sudden, the music stops and they
Speaker 1: start playing take me out to the ballgame, And I'm
Speaker 1: in the ring. I'm looking around the fancy of the
Speaker 1: ball game. Pete Rose in uniform, runs down the ramp
Speaker 1: and jumps into the ring to confront I'm going, Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm going, people are going. He gets into it with
Speaker 1: Hulk Hogan. He gives them the people's elbow.
Speaker 6: About about a minute into it, Pete Rose is out
Speaker 6: and at that point here comes Piper in his skirt
Speaker 6: down the ramp.
Speaker 1: For that's Pete Rose by the ankles, throws them out
Speaker 1: of the ring. I'd get Pete Rose on my arm
Speaker 1: and we'd limp off together and then ding ding ding
Speaker 1: thing the match begins.
Speaker 6: Only in America. You can't make it up. No, how
Speaker 6: about when he got the by Kane by the way
Speaker 6: in the cane. Isn't he a mayor somewhere? Yeah, he's
Speaker 6: a mayor in city in Tennessee. Knox County, Tennessee's the
Speaker 6: man right right, the big reda brother of the undertake. Yeah,
Speaker 6: exactly can you? And none of that's nobody. This is
Speaker 6: forty years nobody had to. He gave Pete the pile
Speaker 6: driver at WrestleMania.
Speaker 4: Wait, I sent that. I sent that to didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 4: we gave.
Speaker 6: Pete the pile driver in WrestleMania. We got to get
Speaker 6: that out. Hold on, let me see if I got
Speaker 6: He's in there at a tuxedo. He's looking good.
Speaker 4: HETE's going nuts, and uh, I don't know where in
Speaker 4: the hell there it is?
Speaker 6: There it is. I can play this, Yeah, I've listened
Speaker 6: to it a few times. Pete staring at Kane. But
Speaker 6: you can't make it up in a big red machine.
Speaker 4: They Rose can't talk. Cat's gotta stop. They might think
Speaker 4: this is fun of games man, but this is all
Speaker 4: not pay Rose. Good call.
Speaker 11: Pay Rose, pay pay Rose. Just got Toombstone. Pay Rose,
Speaker 11: just stop Toomstone. And this cop Loston, London cannot.
Speaker 6: Later my back, doctor, doctor Bob Earnst. I sent him
Speaker 6: down and he said, have Pete give me a call.
Speaker 6: I said, Doc, it's a bit too late, I think,
Speaker 6: so say give me some sports. Will he the stooge
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Speaker 6: McKinley Jackson returning to practice, both of announcince with knee injuries.
Speaker 6: Defensive end Trey Hendrickson still day to day? What with
Speaker 6: that next stinger from last last sun? How come his
Speaker 6: arm was in a sling? If he had a next stinger,
Speaker 6: I guess they had something to do with it. I'm
Speaker 6: not the doctor.
Speaker 4: Are you day to day yourself? You think I am Doc? Kremchek?
Speaker 4: Are you day to day?
Speaker 7: Way?
Speaker 6: MLS Soccer FC Cincinnati looks for their eleventh road victory
Speaker 6: of the season tonight, facing off against New York City
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Speaker 6: defender Miles Robinson has been named the United States national
Speaker 6: team roster for the upcoming October International Window. Eh, let's
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Speaker 6: next Saturday in Austin, Texas as.
Speaker 1: Even a chicken outfit at some point inside.
Speaker 4: That I think so yeah, vaguely yeah. And he took
Speaker 4: off the head.
Speaker 6: It might have been in Atlanta, got pummeled by somebody
Speaker 6: beat the crap out of him again. College basketball, the
Speaker 6: NCAA has announced the first four will be back in
Speaker 6: Dayton through the year twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 4: I love Dayton. I like that.
Speaker 6: At you beautiful UD Arena, the home of Mike McConnell. Purdue,
Speaker 6: and Indiana picked the finish one to two in the
Speaker 6: Big Ten Conference basketball media poll.
Speaker 4: Ohio State his eighth. What about Michigan? Tom Weiedman wants
Speaker 4: to know what at Michigan was like?
Speaker 6: Eleventh no good the twenty twenty seven final fours in
Speaker 6: the Motor City of Detroit. Twenty twenty eight in Las Vegas,
Speaker 6: Viva Las Vegas, Elvis Presley style.
Speaker 4: Correct.
Speaker 1: Maybe he and Ann Margaret will make an appearance. I
Speaker 1: think an Margaret's still alive, isn't she?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I think thinks she's still alive. She's got to be ninety.
Speaker 6: Tell you she was a houghty. Tommy right now used
Speaker 6: to date her, you know that after Elvis? I know, yeah,
Speaker 6: I don't want what to tell you about that, but
Speaker 6: tell you what the uh life and times of Pete Rose,
Speaker 6: there's nothing like it. No, he had. He had a
Speaker 6: complete life. He got it all life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dave, see if you get keating, see if you
Speaker 1: can find Pete Rose in the chicken outfit, because that
Speaker 1: was one of the classic moments.
Speaker 6: I mean wrestling, baseball, wrestling. You know they played, remember
Speaker 6: they played off season basketball. We had a big game
Speaker 6: around around around the city, around the area on the
Speaker 6: offseason you may recalls, were playing that eighty four to
Speaker 6: eighty five.
Speaker 1: The workers were laid off UWS laid off in Norwood.
Speaker 1: So I got ahold of the Robinson family and we
Speaker 1: did a charity basketball game at the Cincinnati Gardens and
Speaker 1: we had uh. Of course I played, of course, I
Speaker 1: was the point guard, of course, but Pete Rose, Paul
Speaker 1: O'Neill was there, Sabo played Anthony Munhos, Robert Jackson played.
Speaker 1: We had a failings of basketball and football players to
Speaker 1: come and play the the the Auto Workers All Stars.
Speaker 1: We beat him ninety seven to seven or something. We
Speaker 1: played lockdown defense and we were dunking on them. I
Speaker 1: made sure we had dunkers.
Speaker 4: And you had how many points? Twenty eight? Twenty point?
Speaker 4: How many assists?
Speaker 1: I had none. Once the ball came to med, I
Speaker 1: figured it was a black hole. It's just simply it
Speaker 1: wasn't returned.
Speaker 6: So Munos and Rose and Robert Jackson wanted the ball.
Speaker 6: Munos could dunk the basketball.
Speaker 4: Of course, got the second chicken, bro how the hell
Speaker 4: is the second do it? He was out here a
Speaker 4: challenging viti O. Kay go wait a minute, you know
Speaker 4: what that may be.
Speaker 12: Healths they and another this guy may triple it togein
Speaker 12: Han Fushy Cane, Ka, ka the great A minute, Kay,
Speaker 12: there's tight Rose, Now can't Beatty.
Speaker 4: That's tight Rose. Paint down again.
Speaker 12: Can't you remember last year in my plomania, paint Rose
Speaker 12: suffer a turnstar the hands of Cane again. I'm then
Speaker 12: the turnstile to paint Rose, the pack player for the
Speaker 12: former filling out your.
Speaker 6: Billy, What the hell is team thinking about Prestlania fifteen
Speaker 6: SEG you can't bet. I don't want to celebrate his
Speaker 6: life in said to worry about his death. I want
Speaker 6: to celebrate the life of Pete Road.
Speaker 4: Amen too.
Speaker 1: That unbelievable. Andy Mack plus Tom Brenneman talked about this show.
Speaker 1: It was a Pete and Johnny show. It was correct
Speaker 1: TV said that both had restaurants. Yeah, bench was out
Speaker 1: in north Gate and uh Roses was right down the
Speaker 1: street from the beautiful Western Bowl.
Speaker 6: Now at the center of it all. Was he involved
Speaker 6: of Ron's roost in the beginning?
Speaker 4: I don't think so. It can't any chickens left.
Speaker 1: You think a chick fil a Ron's roost and there's in.
Speaker 4: The Kentucky Fried chicken. Uh, there's no chicken left, is there?
Speaker 6: Or not for the other two but us number one
Speaker 6: of you, Yes, but there's there's there's no chicken.
Speaker 4: No, no, it's such a good thing. Give me.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine in this political season if the uh
Speaker 1: if jd vance admittedly impregnated a babysitter, oh and then
Speaker 1: slap some girlfriend.
Speaker 6: Uh, he wouldn't be on He wouldn't be where he
Speaker 6: is he'd be he'd be admonished and and thrown out.
Speaker 6: But mister Kamala Harris, mister Kamala Harris, just let it go.
Speaker 6: Know your role and shut your mouth.
Speaker 1: Segment Get me out of the student's report coming up
Speaker 1: next to Rolando Sanza about the great debate he d
Speaker 1: with Greg Landsman last night and also the VP debate.
Speaker 1: The great debate. You didn't see it, Sag. You're probably
Speaker 1: sleeping right. I think so, yeah. I watched every minute
Speaker 1: with coke and popcorn. JD kicked his ass like mister
Speaker 1: ass would.
Speaker 4: Do, Willy and utter of a beautiful day here in
Speaker 4: the Tri State.
Speaker 6: We leave you with the immortal words of the stood report.
Speaker 8: We're buying the Reds to win. Anything else is unacceptable.
Speaker 8: We will not rest until we are putting a contender
Speaker 8: on the field.
Speaker 7: You're in and year out.
Speaker 8: Our first step will be to create one of the
Speaker 8: most respected organizations in baseball. Look forward to your winning
Speaker 8: attitude and culture. Well ensure that the best people are
Speaker 8: in the right roles with the resources to win.
Speaker 4: Your reaction.
Speaker 1: In the last ten seasons, last ten full seasons, how
Speaker 1: many winning records have the Reds had?
Speaker 4: Not many?
Speaker 1: One one don't know what to say segment. Thank you
Speaker 1: for your involvement, Yes, sir, I cherish our time together,
Speaker 1: Yes sir, and may we be together for many years
Speaker 1: to come.
Speaker 4: Amen, Let's continue.
Speaker 1: Coming up next to Orlando Sanzo who would become a
Speaker 1: US Congressman. Greg Lansman has the job and Orlando sonso
Speaker 1: wants that work on News Radio seven hundred w out.
Speaker 4: Bill Cunningham, the Great American.
Speaker 1: Coming up later this hour will be Judged Josh Berkowitz
Speaker 1: about the illegal activities of the Clerk of Courts of
Speaker 1: Hamlton County. And in fact, in that particular case Municipal
Speaker 1: Court of Hamilton County, Democrats and Republicans joined together in
Speaker 1: calling out the illegal activity of the Clerk of Courts
Speaker 1: of Hamilton County. And we're going to discuss that with
Speaker 1: Judge Berkowitz in about forty five minutes, but until then,
Speaker 1: Orlando Sonza is the candidate for the first Congressional District,
Speaker 1: which is largely Warren County in parts of Hambleton County.
Speaker 1: Had a great debate last night with Greg Lansman who's
Speaker 1: currently holding the position and Lando. Welcome again to the
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham Show and Orlando. Let me ask you a
Speaker 1: question first. Are you prepared for the first question?
Speaker 3: Bill, let's do it and listen. Thanks for again for
Speaker 3: having me, especially have a big win from last night's
Speaker 3: to be.
Speaker 1: I'm hearing about that you did as well as Jade
Speaker 1: Vance did. But you know, your friend Greg Lansman is
Speaker 1: running a spot in which you and the fact he's
Speaker 1: running all these commercials means he thinks he's in trouble
Speaker 1: saying that the Democrats and the Republicans in the Congress
Speaker 1: must pass laws that prohibit congressman from benefiting from their
Speaker 1: own passage of regulations, rules and laws. And I would
Speaker 1: point out that the number one culprit is Nancy Pelosi.
Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi and her husband Paul have made literally hundreds
Speaker 1: of millions of dollars with insider information, doing much better
Speaker 1: than Warren Buffin. So is it somewhat disingenuous for Greg
Speaker 1: Lansman to talk about I'm going to Washington to stop
Speaker 1: congressmen and women from participating in the stock market when
Speaker 1: they have insider information, when the leader of his party
Speaker 1: has done it for years? Do you find that somewhat hypocritical?
Speaker 3: That is absolutely hypocritical and On top of that, it's
Speaker 3: hypocritical of Greg Lansman himself to be conducting the very
Speaker 3: things that he speaks so outspoken against. Look, we prosecuted
Speaker 3: the case successfully against Greg Lamsman last night, and one
Speaker 3: of the things that we brought up is that you
Speaker 3: cannot do tv ads claiming you're going to Congress to
Speaker 3: stop potential insider trading if you are being alleged in
Speaker 3: national news sources that you yourself have failed to disclose
Speaker 3: over eighty stock transactions while you sit on the Small
Speaker 3: Business Committee in Congress, have invested in the companies that
Speaker 3: you railed against in twenty twenty two when you ran
Speaker 3: against Steve Shabbit, and then you fail to report those
Speaker 3: stock transactions in violation of the Federal Stock Act. That
Speaker 3: was a fact at the beginning of the debate. And
Speaker 3: guess what the last question that was fed to Greg
Speaker 3: Landsman last night was exactly the truth. Why in the
Speaker 3: world should the voters of the first Congressional District trust
Speaker 3: you if you are being accused of violating the Federal
Speaker 3: Stock Act? And at that point I just had to
Speaker 3: say everything that has been said in this debate is
Speaker 3: completely true. He cannot be trusted. He cannot be trusted
Speaker 3: when he was on Gang of five on Cincinnati City Council.
Speaker 3: He can't be trusted now because he's violating Federal Stock Act.
Speaker 3: As a hypocrite, you.
Speaker 1: How many times Democrats and liberals will run up ads
Speaker 1: describing their own behavior and then decried, exactly right, he's
Speaker 1: engaged in the behavior that he criticizes, hoping the media
Speaker 1: won't pick it up. And you're on Channel five, Sriapolo,
Speaker 1: et cetera. I watched some of it, not all. I
Speaker 1: was getting ready for the EP de band I got
Speaker 1: to talk to you about that. But wasn't there a
Speaker 1: sense by most of the observers that you kicked his ass?
Speaker 3: That's the look. I didn't say it, but that's exactly
Speaker 3: the sentiment that we heard as soon as the debate concluded.
Speaker 3: And here's the other thing, too, Bill, is that you
Speaker 3: can't be on Cincinnati City Council Councilman Landsman calling for
Speaker 3: an ethics commission to be stood up so that there's
Speaker 3: better transparency for public officials when it comes to their
Speaker 3: financial reporting. When you yourself don't even comply with financial reporting
Speaker 3: requirements as a sitting US congressman, This is exactly what
Speaker 3: Americans are tired of, Hi selection officials saying one thing
Speaker 3: and they do the complete opposite.
Speaker 1: Secondly, I talked about this about an hour ago, and
Speaker 1: maybe you've not seen it. It came out about ten
Speaker 1: thirty three am this morning. The New York Post has
Speaker 1: a headline Doug Amoff, as you know, is the husband
Speaker 1: of Kamala Harris. Doug Moff accused of forcibly slapping New
Speaker 1: York City girlfriend for flirting with another man at a
Speaker 1: ritzy gala in twenty twelve, which is the year before
Speaker 1: he proposed and got married to Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4: This story says to the effect that the two.
Speaker 1: Of them quote Doug went up to one of the
Speaker 1: valet guys the line was too long and offered the
Speaker 1: head valet one hundred dollars to go to the front
Speaker 1: of the line. And Doug got that deal done. But
Speaker 1: as he left his girlfriend and that both of them
Speaker 1: admit they.
Speaker 4: Were drunk at three a m.
Speaker 1: In the morning, by the way, in France at the
Speaker 1: cons Film Festival. I'm not sure you've been there many times,
Speaker 1: but the Conn Film Festival. And then as he went
Speaker 1: back to pick her up to walk her back to
Speaker 1: the front of the line. She was looking supposedly at
Speaker 1: some other guy and both parties, and she was a
Speaker 1: lawyer in New York City. Of course, Doug em Off
Speaker 1: as a lawyer from Los Angeles at that time still is,
Speaker 1: and he slapped her very hard, and she said, my
Speaker 1: impression was we had a lot to drink, and I
Speaker 1: began to cry and try to hit him back, but
Speaker 1: I couldn't. We had dinner. Doug was very charming, he
Speaker 1: was lovely. Between two and three in the morning, we left,
Speaker 1: and because he thought I was looking at another man,
Speaker 1: he was furious. He hauled up quote and slapped me
Speaker 1: so hard, spun me around. I was in total shock.
Speaker 1: I was furious that he would slap me in front
Speaker 1: of all those people, And all of a sudden we
Speaker 1: got to the front of the line, got into the car.
Speaker 1: I called a girlfriend. I didn't know whether to call
Speaker 1: the French police, didn't know if they had nine to
Speaker 1: one one.
Speaker 4: I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I was somewhat ineperate it, but I was shocked that
Speaker 1: Doug m Off would slap me. Do you think this
Speaker 1: story is going to hit the national media other than
Speaker 1: the New York Post?
Speaker 3: Well, Bill first of all. That's my first time even
Speaker 3: hearing of this, so I've got to look into the
Speaker 3: greater detail. I mean, it is a crazy accusation. If
Speaker 3: there's any truth to it, this just speaks to again,
Speaker 3: we've got to go back to a sense of just civility, decorum,
Speaker 3: respect for people, no matter what. Look, I am so
Speaker 3: focused on prosecuting the case on Greg Landsman that I
Speaker 3: really don't have time for anything else. And here's the
Speaker 3: thing you talk about, lack of decorum, lack of professional
Speaker 3: lack of civility, and smugness and arrogance that was on
Speaker 3: full display against my opponent last night. Where you've got
Speaker 3: in the current sitting congressman, a lack of professionalism, civility, respect,
Speaker 3: the arrogance that he showed. There is in the military,
Speaker 3: we called that conduct unbecoming of an officer. Well guess
Speaker 3: what that was conduct unbecoming of a US congressman. And
Speaker 3: it's about accountability and it started last night and we
Speaker 3: are going to deliver that accountability when we win this
Speaker 3: election November fifth.
Speaker 1: And also Doug m Off, as you know, the current
Speaker 1: second Gentleman was described by MSNBC as the future of
Speaker 1: the way men should behave toward a woman. He's the
Speaker 1: new twenty first century man. Also impregnated his own nanny,
Speaker 1: who was nineteen years old at the time. So he
Speaker 1: impregnated the babysitter, slapped the girlfriend, and this is the
Speaker 1: guy we got to follow. Hello, which amazing, incredible. Now
Speaker 1: I take it you watched the Great debate last night,
Speaker 1: the VP debate. Give me your analysis between what happened
Speaker 1: between Lance and what happened, of course with Waltz and
Speaker 1: who do you think won that great debate?
Speaker 3: Well, I will say that I think I think the
Speaker 3: great debate was the seven to eight PM opener with
Speaker 3: Saza versus Landsmen. But there was another great debate. You're
Speaker 3: absolutely right about that. We were the opener to that
Speaker 3: VP debate. And I got to tell you a huge
Speaker 3: win last night for our side. Not only did we
Speaker 3: deliver and prosecute the case for the first Congressional District
Speaker 3: of Ohio, you had Ohio Senator jd Vance prosecuting the
Speaker 3: case against this failed Biden Harris administration. And now Tim
Speaker 3: Walls wants to join the train and thinks that he's
Speaker 3: going to fix it. I haven't watched the whole thing,
Speaker 3: but from the highlights that I saw and from the
Speaker 3: people that I've talked to, it was a huge win
Speaker 3: for Senator Vance. He did exactly what it needed to do.
Speaker 3: You he needed to get in and get out and
Speaker 3: make sure that he painted Tim Waltz as the elected
Speaker 3: official that he is someone that's wrong on every single
Speaker 3: policy issue that matters for America. Look, they have no
Speaker 3: solution to fix in this economy, absolutely zero solution for
Speaker 3: fixing the southern border. And you talk about this erosion
Speaker 3: in confidence of our public officials. You've got Tim walt
Speaker 3: constantly lying about his history, where he's been, what he's done,
Speaker 3: lying about his military service, lying about his trips to
Speaker 3: Hong Kong. That he just completely thirded around and beat
Speaker 3: around the bush. And I appreciate those moderators not letting
Speaker 3: him off the hook and nailing him saying that no,
Speaker 3: you've got to answer the question were you speaking truthfully?
Speaker 3: And there he is saying, oh, I misspoke. Well, this
Speaker 3: is the same Tim Waltz that miss folks and said
Speaker 3: that he carried a gun in combat in war.
Speaker 11: No, you did it.
Speaker 3: You never deployed. In fact, you left the National Guard
Speaker 3: so that you can run for Congress and then never
Speaker 3: got out as a command sergeant major like you said
Speaker 3: you were. In fact, you got out as a master
Speaker 3: sergeant because you didn't go to command sergeant major school Son.
Speaker 3: Excellent job by Senator Van I would hope that they
Speaker 3: do another debate. Of course, why do that you end
Speaker 3: on a high note. Of course, the harrits Waltz team
Speaker 3: isn't going to commit to another bait because they're scared.
Speaker 3: So we did what we needed to do on both
Speaker 3: fronts last night.
Speaker 1: And isn't it true that the better the top of
Speaker 1: the ticket does, the better it is for you. Now,
Speaker 1: if there's a huge Warren County and the Republican turnout,
Speaker 1: that that helps Alno Sanza quite a bit.
Speaker 3: That's exactly right. Listen, There's going to be a wave
Speaker 3: that we're going to be able to ride from the
Speaker 3: top of the ticket down. And not only is the
Speaker 3: top of the ticket going to take back the White House,
Speaker 3: that top of the ticket is going to sweep across
Speaker 3: Ohio and we are going to take back the United
Speaker 3: States Senate when Bernie Marino shared Brown and finally retires
Speaker 3: that guy, and then from then on we are going
Speaker 3: to grow that majority in the US House you're absolutely right, Bill.
Speaker 4: How many years did you serve in the military.
Speaker 3: I served proudly three and a half years as an
Speaker 3: infantry officer and a finance officer at the third Infantry Division,
Speaker 3: alongside my wife, Jessica, the Cincinnati native, fellow West Point
Speaker 3: grad and also commissioned US Army officer alongside her. Proud
Speaker 3: of that service, always will be proud.
Speaker 1: Tell the American people, just give me the capsule of
Speaker 1: who is Orlando Sanza. What is your background and what
Speaker 1: is your main platform? Tell the American people more about
Speaker 1: you personally.
Speaker 3: Listen, Look, my story is like many Americans who can
Speaker 3: proudly say they enter this country legally the right way right.
Speaker 3: I was born in the Philippines, moved here when I
Speaker 3: was three years old. My parents, Orley and Susan, came
Speaker 3: here with their kids to pursue this so called American dream.
Speaker 3: Instilled in us these values that in this country you
Speaker 3: can do whatever you set your mind to. Bill, I
Speaker 3: took advantage of that opportunity, and I wanted to do
Speaker 3: it through a lifelong commitment to service, service to community
Speaker 3: and country. The only thing I wanted to do as
Speaker 3: a little kid was to serve in the US Army
Speaker 3: as this US Army soldier.
Speaker 4: I did that.
Speaker 3: I went to West Point and met my wife there
Speaker 3: as classmates, commissioned as a US Army officer, proudly served
Speaker 3: my country, and then after that continued to serve. Became
Speaker 3: an Ohio CPA, served right here in Big four accounting
Speaker 3: in Cincinnati before getting the bug to enter public service again.
Speaker 4: So what I do.
Speaker 3: Went to law school, went to Georgetown Law to be
Speaker 3: a prosecutor, came back to Hamilton County to be an
Speaker 3: assistant Hamilton County Prosecutor, and that's where I continue to
Speaker 3: serve my community. This is a call to service once again, Bill,
Speaker 3: a call to service. Just like I raised my right
Speaker 3: hand alongside my wife Jessica eleven years ago to serve
Speaker 3: in uniform, I'm serving my country again to protect the
Speaker 3: American dream, not just for my family of four young kids,
Speaker 3: but for every single American family out there. We've got
Speaker 3: a story to tell. It's a compelling one. We're going
Speaker 3: to fix these issues from the economy, the southern border,
Speaker 3: restore duty, honor, and integrity back in Congress, and that's
Speaker 3: how we're going to win this race.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, Greg Lansman likes to think of himself
Speaker 1: as a career politician going up the ladder of failure
Speaker 1: and mainly in private life. When you fail at the bottom,
Speaker 1: you don't go to the top. And Lansman's case, he's
Speaker 1: failing at the bottom now he's rolling up to the
Speaker 1: top thinking he can stay in Congress after this. He
Speaker 1: wants to run for the US Senate. After that, run
Speaker 1: for the presidency. And he's a left wing liberal. He
Speaker 1: doesn't talk to talk overwalk the walk. He runs campaign
Speaker 1: commercials describing his own behavior of profiting at the public
Speaker 1: trough personally. And I'm glad Orlando you've called it out. Orlando,
Speaker 1: I met you, I think once or twice. I love
Speaker 1: your wife and your three little kids. They're darling. And
Speaker 1: why a normal, god fearing, patriotic guy like you once
Speaker 1: get into politics, I don't know, but I'm glad you
Speaker 1: did it.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Bill. It's about service again. We need more
Speaker 3: of that, and that's why we're doing this.
Speaker 1: Orlando, son'sa good luck in the first Congressional district. And
Speaker 1: may God bless you and God bless America. Orlando, thank
Speaker 1: you very much.
Speaker 3: Thank you Bill.
Speaker 1: Here let's continue with more you can only imagine if
Speaker 1: the shoe was on the other foot.
Speaker 4: And let's say, let's say JD.
Speaker 1: Van said slap the girlfriend half nuts in the cann
Speaker 1: Film Festival and then impregnateted a babysitter or nanny. What
Speaker 1: the media would have done with that and the doug
Speaker 1: am Hoff behavior the second gentleman soon to become Some
Speaker 1: think the first gentleman has that background. And if you
Speaker 1: would need more information on the most recent violent acts
Speaker 1: that doug Amoff committed against women, go to the New
Speaker 1: York Post. They have a long story here about these
Speaker 1: allegations waiting for a refutation or a confirmation of his
Speaker 1: assaulting a woman and uh in con Film Festival in
Speaker 1: twenty twelve. Now, of course he did admit on he
Speaker 1: didn't met during an interview, that he impregnated his nanny
Speaker 1: and that uh the implication was uh terminate at the pregnancy.
Speaker 1: And that's who the second gentleman is, doug am Off.
Speaker 1: Let's continue with more if a line becomes available five one, three, seven, four, nine,
Speaker 1: seven thousand news coming up plus later on as Judge
Speaker 1: Josh Berkowitz Amity County Municipal Court in Unison, Democrats and
Speaker 1: Republicans have smite it the Amity County Clerk of Courts.
Speaker 1: Perik is his name for illegally committing acts while in office.
Speaker 1: And that'll be about two forty five today at your
Speaker 1: home of the Bengals News Radio seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 10: So I've become friends with school shooters and I'm a
Speaker 10: knucklehead at times.
Speaker 4: Oh hell, hello, quiet.
Speaker 9: I'm scos, I'm broadcasting.
Speaker 4: Buddy.
Speaker 1: Governor Tim Walls debated last night that quote, I've become
Speaker 1: friends to school shooters.
Speaker 6: I've seen some highlights and not good. Didn't look too good.
Speaker 6: How are we looking not good?
Speaker 8: Now?
Speaker 6: One thing for you to reflect upon that heat Pete
Speaker 6: Rose getting another tombstone from.
Speaker 4: Caine the Big Red machine.
Speaker 1: Each candidate's first selection to an important position is the VP,
Speaker 1: all right, and then they got to appoint three thousand
Speaker 1: other people to fill out the executive branch of government.
Speaker 1: Now the media has pictured JD. Vance is a fool
Speaker 1: of clown, a white supremacist, and a Nazi. What we
Speaker 1: saw last night was a was a lawyer and a
Speaker 1: father and a husband and a good guy.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 4: That was a good choice by the Trumpster with the
Speaker 4: other guy and the other guy in the highlights. I
Speaker 4: saw he was a clown. I'm a knucklehead at times.
Speaker 1: Tim Walltz is a self professed knucklehead who's a friend
Speaker 1: of school shooters.
Speaker 10: That would become friends with school shooters.
Speaker 4: And that's the that's the first pick of Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4: That's the best.
Speaker 6: Can you imagine? Then the rest of the selections? No,
Speaker 6: how are we looking?
Speaker 4: Not good?
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Speaker 4: Would you become the friend of school shooters?
Speaker 13: No?
Speaker 4: Please continue.
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Speaker 6: Bengals are with a walk through inside the Bubble this afternoon.
Speaker 6: Get ready for that Ravens contest?
Speaker 4: Are they ready?
Speaker 6: They have clear defensive end Miles Murphy and defensive tackle
Speaker 6: McKinley Jackson to return to practice. They now have twenty
Speaker 6: days to get ready. How about Hendrickson? You forgot about him?
Speaker 6: Both have been sidelined with knee injuries. You forgot about him.
Speaker 4: Defensive end Trey Hendrickson listed as day to day. Are
Speaker 4: you day to day? All? Go ahead?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm day to day.
Speaker 6: MLS soccer FC Cincinnati on the road tonight up against
Speaker 6: New York City FC, the Orange and Blue looking for
Speaker 6: their eleventh road victory of the season, Tonight, seven o'clock,
Speaker 6: Fox Sports, thirteen to sixty.
Speaker 4: Do you have hope? Yes? Go ahead?
Speaker 6: FC Cincinnati defender Miles Robinson has been named the United
Speaker 6: States national team roster for the upcoming October International Window.
Speaker 6: The USA will take on Panama next Saturday in Austin, Texas.
Speaker 4: What do you mean window?
Speaker 6: I guess they play games up until like next week
Speaker 6: and then the MLS and that is off for this
Speaker 6: some other soccer thing.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 6: These guys get like every third week off for like
Speaker 6: about two or three weeks, and they start in January,
Speaker 6: don't they kind of yeah, I think they got a
Speaker 6: longer season. In NASCAR college basketball, the NCAA is announced
Speaker 6: it the first four will be back at U the
Speaker 6: Arena where it belongs in Dayton through the year twenty
Speaker 6: twenty eight? What about Don donaher passed away go ahead
Speaker 6: and then so that's it?
Speaker 4: What do you mean that's it? We got baseball?
Speaker 6: Twenty twenty seven final four will be in Motown AKA
Speaker 6: Detroit Louisville and twenty twenty seven will have a first
Speaker 6: and second round there.
Speaker 4: What about Cinde Young Center? What about Cincinnati?
Speaker 6: Twenty twenty eight, the final four will be in Las
Speaker 6: Vegas Viva like Elvis. Well, what about Cincinnati? First and
Speaker 6: second round there in twenty twenty eight will be at
Speaker 6: Nationwide Arena in Columbus.
Speaker 1: Now answering the question, answer the question? What about Cincinnati?
Speaker 6: Not on the list through twenty twenty eight? Let's see,
Speaker 6: you got baseball today? You got Detroit and Houston. Tigers
Speaker 6: up one oh so, three game set too in Kansas
Speaker 6: City and Baltimore. The Royals lead at one oh Padres
Speaker 6: beat the Braves four nothing last night, so they go
Speaker 6: up one oh oh and then the Mets.
Speaker 4: How about that Mets? How about that.
Speaker 6: Knock off the Brewers in Milwaukee. I kind of want
Speaker 6: Milwaukee to win that because or a smaller market. I
Speaker 6: like nothing about New York except I love Sean Hannity.
Speaker 6: Would you agree, correct? I would think that you wait
Speaker 6: and see, it'll be the Yankees and Mets in the
Speaker 6: World Series.
Speaker 4: Will make me sick to my stomach. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I want the Reds in the World Philly, So I
Speaker 1: have something to say about that one was and a
Speaker 1: few other teams. When was the last time a local
Speaker 1: team won a national title?
Speaker 6: That's uh, about four years ago Xavier won the National
Speaker 6: Invitational Tournament? Right, Xavier won the knit That's correct, for
Speaker 6: a second time?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 4: They won it? And what nineteen fifty eight?
Speaker 1: It's Pinchback and Kirby and Toby. I knew those guys.
Speaker 1: I played with him. Now, let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: who will next win? You know, the World Series or
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? Reds are the Bengals? Who's next up?
Speaker 1: Of course the Bengals not one one yet, but you
Speaker 1: never know, right, you heard you heard Bob CASHELINI earlier
Speaker 1: talk about we're just not going to lose anything, Right,
Speaker 1: I would.
Speaker 4: Say the Bengals have a good chance to win the
Speaker 4: Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: When what year? I don't know, Oh, you maybe tell me,
Speaker 6: maybe this year. Tell me they'll come back from an
Speaker 6: zero to three.
Speaker 4: Start right now. They're wanting to.
Speaker 6: Roll their way into New Orleans segment, Get me me
Speaker 6: walk into New Orleans like Fats Domino.
Speaker 1: That's your that's your protege. But tell you what we have,
Speaker 1: Judge Josh berkowit's coming up in about five minutes to
Speaker 1: talk about a little bit of scandal, Yes, sir, Amiliny
Speaker 1: County Clerk of Court's Office. Segment, Get me out of
Speaker 1: the student's report, Willy and Hotter of a beautiful day
Speaker 1: here in the Tri State. Then go Bengals, who day.
Speaker 1: We leave you with the immortal words of the Stooge Report.
Speaker 5: The consequential second of all Walls is a buffoon. I'm
Speaker 5: sorry this guy. He's the only school teacher in America
Speaker 5: who brags at none of his students can get into
Speaker 5: an Ivy League school, he said one consequential press interaction
Speaker 5: with our Dana Bash who asked him about the fabrications
Speaker 5: in his own resume, and his answer was essentially, MITO
Speaker 5: understand words good.
Speaker 4: I mean he's a buffoon.
Speaker 5: He's on he's on a freak ride for running under Harris.
Speaker 6: He gets covered he's on a free did you say
Speaker 6: free or freak freak ride?
Speaker 1: He's on a freak ride. He's like the Marshallow Man
Speaker 1: and goes. Plus he befriends school shooters. Coming up next
Speaker 1: is the judge Berkowitz on News Radio seven hundred You
Speaker 1: ought to be Billy Cunningham. Let's continue picking up the
Speaker 1: pieces of the storm that happened last week. It continues
Speaker 1: the effects this week, and also what's going to happen
Speaker 1: Sunday about one o'clock with the Ravens in town to
Speaker 1: play the Bengals. But until then, a few days ago,
Speaker 1: a Court of Appeals opinion came out. The headline is
Speaker 1: Appeals Court orders Hamony County Clerk of Courts to put
Speaker 1: thousands of eviction cases back online. And what happened in
Speaker 1: this case is that the Hamlin County Municipal Court judges
Speaker 1: sued the Haminy County Clerk of Courts, which doesn't happen
Speaker 1: on a regular basis to do his job. Joining you
Speaker 1: and I now is Judge Josh Berkowitz, generally of the
Speaker 1: New Norwood area. He's a municipal court judge. He was
Speaker 1: part of the lawsuit to order the Hamilty County Clerk
Speaker 1: of Courts to do his job, and Judge burker Witz,
Speaker 1: welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Judge, can
Speaker 1: you tell the American people what's at staken this decision
Speaker 1: and why you were forced to go to court to
Speaker 1: sue the clerk of courts.
Speaker 13: Well, Hi, Bill, thanks for having me. It's great to
Speaker 13: be on with you and with your listeners. The one
Speaker 13: point I'll correct you on so far is we did
Speaker 13: not sue him.
Speaker 4: He sued us.
Speaker 13: Oh, it's a really strange, unusual and frankly, very sad situation.
Speaker 13: This all started a while back when the clerk decided
Speaker 13: to unilaterally remove all eviction records court records from his
Speaker 13: website older than three years and so that's tens of
Speaker 13: thousands of cases. And he did this all on his
Speaker 13: own without even any notice to the court. In fact,
Speaker 13: the appeals court judges that just ruled on this noted
Speaker 13: that we learned of it from an Enquirer article when
Speaker 13: he did a press release, and you know, the judges
Speaker 13: of the court obviously were concerned. There was no notice,
Speaker 13: there was no no availability to the public that these
Speaker 13: records were not being published online like every other court
Speaker 13: record and so we you know, we tried to resolve
Speaker 13: this situation working together and cooperatively with the clerk, as
Speaker 13: we've always done, and that was just not successful for
Speaker 13: a long period of time. In January of this year,
Speaker 13: I became the presiding judge of the court and I
Speaker 13: kind of thought it was my obligation to again try
Speaker 13: to resolve this dispute. And he wouldn't even meet with me.
Speaker 13: I refused to.
Speaker 7: Meet with me.
Speaker 13: He demanded that he have a private attorney appointed to
Speaker 13: represent him, and ultimately we missed. He never met with me,
Speaker 13: and so we sent him a letter. We informed him
Speaker 13: that he was in contempt of a court order and
Speaker 13: that he could be held in contempt and that he
Speaker 13: was ordered to restore these court records to his website.
Speaker 13: And rather than comply, he filed this lawsuit.
Speaker 1: And the lawsuit is going state x row. Is that
Speaker 1: Peven Periq, he's a new clerk just recently in the job.
Speaker 1: Am I saying his name correctly? Pavan or Peven Perique?
Speaker 4: Is that his name Pavin Perik?
Speaker 1: And so he said that I have he sued you,
Speaker 1: the Honorable Josh Berkowitz at all as a judge of
Speaker 1: Hamlet and County alleging that he had the right to
Speaker 1: take out a public domain these eviction records because he
Speaker 1: thought it was injurious to the parties to have that
Speaker 1: information in the public record.
Speaker 4: But damn it, that's his job, isn't it.
Speaker 13: That's that's exactly right. And the Court of Appeals really
Speaker 13: came out very strongly and clearly on this issue that
Speaker 13: he doesn't have the authority to do any of this.
Speaker 13: His job is ministerial in nature when it comes to
Speaker 13: court records, and what he asserted was an authority over
Speaker 13: court records that exceeded even an order of the court itself.
Speaker 13: It's really a pretty absurd argument and very much misleading
Speaker 13: to the public. I mean what he did. If you
Speaker 13: rely on this website, as people have for several decades
Speaker 13: now for access to open courts, you would have no
Speaker 13: idea that the website only contains records within the last
Speaker 13: three years, and that all these thousands of cases older
Speaker 13: than three years have been removed. It's really an unfortunate
Speaker 13: situation and very sad that it's all been done at
Speaker 13: taxpayer expense. Ordinarily, the Hamilton County Prosecutor acts as the
Speaker 13: attorney for both the court and the clerk's office, and
Speaker 13: since obviously they could not represent both of us or
Speaker 13: either one of us in this circumstance, private council had
Speaker 13: to be appointed for both parties. And so this has
Speaker 13: all been done at taxpayer expense and very much unnecessary.
Speaker 1: According to the According to Perik, the clerk, of course,
Speaker 1: he said, quote this is to prevent certain members of
Speaker 1: the public, being primarily employers and landlords, from potentially relying
Speaker 1: upon court documents and considering future employment, housing, and other
Speaker 1: potential opportunities to individuals. So his goal, I guess, was
Speaker 1: to tell employers and also landlords that this person's got
Speaker 1: a clean record, when the public records would indicate, say,
Speaker 1: Tony Bender's been evicted seven or eight times and is
Speaker 1: kind of a deadbeat, and that the public needs to
Speaker 1: know that fact. And so by saying you can't go
Speaker 1: back more than three years, he violated a clear requirement
Speaker 1: of the state statutes. And what he said was I
Speaker 1: want to do something for those who have financial difficulties
Speaker 1: as opposed to following the state law and a cost
Speaker 1: of taxpayer tens of thousands of dollars him not doing
Speaker 1: his job. And so I guess the purpose was to
Speaker 1: assist individuals that it can't pay their bills or whatever.
Speaker 1: But in reality, he violated state law.
Speaker 13: Correct, that's one hundred percent correct. One of the things
Speaker 13: that the Court of Appeals noted and that we argued
Speaker 13: throughout this this litigation, is that he never once presented
Speaker 13: any evidence of anyone even asking him to do this.
Speaker 13: There was never any you know, no party sought this remedy.
Speaker 13: You know, Bill, we have a process, and there's a
Speaker 13: process in state law where people can apply on a
Speaker 13: case by case basis to have certain information redact did
Speaker 13: or removed from the website. I mean, this is a
Speaker 13: process in state law, and he just did away with
Speaker 13: all of that and took it on his own authority,
Speaker 13: asserted his own authority that he, as the clerk of courts,
Speaker 13: could determine what records, what court records the public is
Speaker 13: entitled to see and what court records you know or
Speaker 13: just too that's that's just beyond the public or it
Speaker 13: should be beyond the public knowledge. And it really is
Speaker 13: an outrageous overreach, and the Court of Appeals, i think
Speaker 13: very clearly ordered him not to do that and win
Speaker 13: a step further beyond this case, they said he has
Speaker 13: no such authority over any such records of the court, and.
Speaker 1: If he was allowed to do this, he could take
Speaker 1: any records and our public records, and to give the
Speaker 1: inquir credit for making this public and simply say, I'm deciding,
Speaker 1: is the grand potentate what the public and seeing what
Speaker 1: the public can't see? And this is were you shocked
Speaker 1: at the Clerk of Courts would not meet with the
Speaker 1: presiding Judge of Hamliny County means he wouldn't even meet
Speaker 1: with you.
Speaker 13: That's correct, Yeah, I really was. I was disappointed. You know,
Speaker 13: we all we all served the public. We're all public servants,
Speaker 13: and this was not to the court. You know, one
Speaker 13: thing I'm really very proud of is the court system
Speaker 13: functioned appropriate here. The judges, both of the municipal Court
Speaker 13: and the Court of Appeals. This was not a political
Speaker 13: issue to any of us. We recognized, we took an
Speaker 13: oath to follow the law and uphold the Constitution and
Speaker 13: we're serving the public here and the public has a
Speaker 13: right to court records. Court records belonged to the public,
Speaker 13: and I am proud that our court was unanimous and
Speaker 13: how we should deal with this situation. We tried to
Speaker 13: work it out, and I was shocked that he had
Speaker 13: no interest in any of that forced this matter to court,
Speaker 13: and ultimately a unanimous Court of Appeals agreed with us.
Speaker 4: Are you concerned that going down that his name what's
Speaker 4: his name again, Pevin Periq? Is that his name?
Speaker 1: The clerk of gords Okay, Covin, Peric, Covin, Perik. If
Speaker 1: he would do this an obvious violation of his job,
Speaker 1: costing the taxpayer series, what else is he doing?
Speaker 13: It's a very uh, it's it's alarming, it really is.
Speaker 13: And one of the things that the Court of Appeals
Speaker 13: addressed was, as you know, build in decisions like this,
Speaker 13: one of the issues is is it capable of repetition?
Speaker 13: And obviously in this case it is because today it
Speaker 13: was eviction records, but tomorrow it might be a different
Speaker 13: issue and a different kind of court record. That you know,
Speaker 13: he wants to benefit one group of the public or
Speaker 13: one constituency over another, and it's just really not what
Speaker 13: we're here to do. We don't get to pick and choose,
Speaker 13: you know, which portion of the public to favor in
Speaker 13: any particular case.
Speaker 4: And that's really what he did here.
Speaker 13: He declared that he's out to help one supposed group
Speaker 13: of people at the expense of another, and the taxpayers
Speaker 13: are on the hook.
Speaker 4: For the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you won, but this guy, this is
Speaker 1: not normal. This is far and you had Democratic judges
Speaker 1: like tyrone Yates standing with Josh Berkowitz all together said wait, man,
Speaker 1: you can't do this. And the fact that he thinks
Speaker 1: he's a big shot and wouldn't meet with the judges
Speaker 1: of Family County to resolve it is indicative of the
Speaker 1: kind of person that he is. But Judge Josh Berkowitz,
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Good luck,
Speaker 1: and I got you never had to keep your eyes
Speaker 1: open to what the clerk is doing because you're thinking, well,
Speaker 1: he'll follow the job. Greg Hartman had the job, Joe
Speaker 1: Deeters had the job for a long time, have to
Speaker 1: have Pirival had the job. None of these problems arose
Speaker 1: because it's obvious what a clerk has to do to
Speaker 1: make available to the public their records of public records,
Speaker 1: and no public officials can take upon themselves the idea
Speaker 1: of violating non state law and acting as if you're
Speaker 1: a big shot and won't meet with the judges whose
Speaker 1: records that you're protecting, and so this is shocking, and
Speaker 1: I would hope the Democratic Party Hamleton County would arise
Speaker 1: and say tell him we can't do this. This is
Speaker 1: not right, because what else is he doing is a concern.
Speaker 1: But once again, Judge Josha Berkowitz, thank you for coming
Speaker 1: on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 4: Get it out there. Let's see what happens, and good
Speaker 4: luck to you. Judge.
Speaker 7: Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Bill.
Speaker 13: I appreciate your time.
Speaker 1: God bless America. Let's continue with more. I know this
Speaker 1: is a little bit inside baseball, but the clerk holds
Speaker 1: the records for the court system, and it's well known
Speaker 1: and understood what records the clerk has got to make
Speaker 1: available to the public. So when you go online, you
Speaker 1: can see this person of this entity spend in court
Speaker 1: numbers of times, and that's the purpose. You cannot, upon
Speaker 1: yourself violate the state law. And then being so arrogant
Speaker 1: that you wanted to meet with the judges whose records
Speaker 1: you're keeping, unbelievable. Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham, News
Speaker 1: Radio seven hundred WLW