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Coast to Coast. So get Off my Piland. Of course,

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covering western college football in the United States. You know,

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not a huge Week four, and this is gonna be

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a little bit more about the preview of Week five.

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So let's uh, let's go through Week four. The main

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story looking back at Week four, Utah hosting Texas Tech

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and a Fox Big Noon Saturday game that was one

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of the more significant games of the day for Western

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college football teams in Utah comes up short and really,

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you know, some people will say that Texas techs and

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i O investments are now paying off, and that's kind

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of the big story of the game, and that is

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certainly a big story. Texas Tech definitely a player in

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the Big twelve. But to focus on Utah, you know,

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we don't really focus too much on Texas Tech. That's

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you know, kind of a Southwestern program more than a

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Western program. So we really don't consider that part of

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our natural coverage umbrella here at get off my pylon

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in focusing on Utah, which we regularly do focus on.

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We regularly do cover you know, we covered Utah in

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the Pac twelve, so then we shifted over to the

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Big twelve. We're staying in touch with the youths. Big

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story from Utah's vantage point is that after the game,

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coach Kyle Winningham said quarterback Devin Dampier really didn't feel

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all that great, was a little banged up, not entirely healthy.

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They felt they had to go with him. They were

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kind of caught in an in between position. You know,

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a lot of Utah fans will pretty reasonably say, you know,

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if he was that banged up, why did you play them?

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this is this has been a persistent issue for Utah

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the past few years, you know, with Cam Rising being

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hurt and the backups not being ready or able to play,

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and you know, the health status of Utah's quarterbacks being

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a point of uncertainty, the program not being very clear

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about what it wants to do or about the actual

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status playing status of its quarterbacks. This has been a

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thing for three years, and so the frustration for Utah

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fans goes far beyond just losing the game to Texas Takets.

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You know, how come the the information surrounding the health

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of our quarterbacks is so hard to get out? How

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come it's so hard to get clear, honest, transparent information,

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and and why don't we have a QB two who

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can do a serviceable job. Now, I know that in

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the nil and transfer portal era, you have players who

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want to be QB one. They want to get their snaps,

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they want to get their reps, they want to build film.

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backup quarterback on a roster, and one would think that

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the NIL compensation, while not at the level of a

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QB one, can still be reasonably good for a QB two,

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you know, to be our guy in waiting to be

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our plan B if our QB one gets hurt. You

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ball at the top level of the Football Bowl Subdivision

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the FBS, and you're competing for conference championships and College

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Football Playoff berths, which you know that was certainly the

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expectation for Utah. I'm not saying Utah was the Big

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twelve favorite or should have been, but like Utah was

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in the mix in this game with Texas, Tech was

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Big Twelve title chase. So you're certainly in the conversation

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not having a good enough QB two that you can

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put in there instead of an injured Devin Dampier. You know,

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this has bitten Kyle Whittingham in the backside for three seasons.

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the Pac twelve Championship in twenty twenty one, in twenty

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twenty two, but then he gets hurt in twenty twenty

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three and twenty twenty four, hijacking those seasons because Utah

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roster construction and the quarterback plan not having something ready

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to go when the QB one gets hurt, that is

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a rough go for Utah and Kyle Whittingham. And so

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you have to wonder if Kyle Wadingham was just thinking

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to himself inwardly, do I just want to keep going

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through this same groundhog day of quarterback injuries and not

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having a good enough backup? I mean this, this, this

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boomerang just keeps circling around and hitting Utah in the

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back of the head, and it's costing the Utes dearly.

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two not being sustained and has to be a very

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sore spot for everyone in Salt Lake City. We'll just

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stay in the Big Twelve and the Western programs there,

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the four corner schools. Colorado beats Wyoming, not a whole

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lot to say there. Wyoming is not very good. And

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Arizona State skates by Baylor, wins it on a field

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goal at the very end of the game. I mean,

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it's a road win in the conference. But Arizona State

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does not look particularly impressive. Sam Levitt, the quarterback doesn't

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look especially great. You know, without Kim Skataboo, it's a

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it's a diminished offense. And that was the great fear

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going into this season. That is the reality right now.

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a chance that Arizona State can evolve, but right now,

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Arizona State is a lot less than what was expected

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by many. You know, Arizona State ranked number eleven in

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each of the two preseason polls. Arizona State was ranked

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well ahead of anyone else in the Big Twelve, and

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notably the team ranked after Arizona State. The next Big

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was Kansas State and Kansas State is cratered, so that

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tells you that no one really had their finger on

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the pulse of the Big Twelve. Arizona State had a

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large margin compared to Kansas State, the team basically picked

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to be second in the conference. But Arizona State's not

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playing at a top twenty five level, not even close,

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and that could change, but right now it doesn't really

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seem like it. And Texas Tech beating Utah Texas Tech

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makes the first really big statement in the Big Twelve

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Conference this season. We thought that Iowa State beating Kansas

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State in Dublin in August might be the first statement,

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but seeing how bad Kansas State is that makes the

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Iowa State win look a lot more diminished. So Texas

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Tech probably the inside choice, the inside team with the

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inside track in the Big twelve conference. While we're talking

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about the Big Twelve, a reminder that you want to

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follow our friend TJ. Reeves for his three hour Big

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twelve preview show Saturday mornings before all the game starts.

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That is going to be a weekly Saturday morning resource

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for any Big Twelve fans, for any college football fans.

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Big Twelve Preview Show from TJ. Reeves that's not an

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official college gridiron broadcast, but nevertheless it's a broadcast that

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we're happy to promote here on our show. Arizona you know,

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under under Brent Brennan. Moving along, you know, it's gonna

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be interesting to see how Arizona follows up to Kansas

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State win a couple of weeks ago with with you know,

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the next act. But as we've just said, that Kansas

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State has cratered Arizona beating Kansas State by a not

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very large margin. That's something we talked about last week.

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What does that mean for the Wildcats going forward? That's

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gonna be an interesting question. So that's the Big twelve

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part of Get Off My Pilon. Let's briefly touch on

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the Mountain West. Boise State wins a shootout over air Force.

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Boise State and air Force not a lot of defense

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in that game. Forty nine thirty seven for Boise State.

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Maddox Madson for Boise State throws for two hundred and

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seventy six yards. I mean, are you happy that Boise

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State's offense did well or are you a concerned that

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Boise State allowed thirty seven to Air Force. We'll see

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if that becomes the kind of game. Boise State plays

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on a regular basis this season. Elsewhere in the Mountain West, UNLV,

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the other team which alongside Boise State received a lot

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of preseason publicity, not very convincing. Once again, UNLV trailed

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Miami of Ohio for most of this game. Now, the

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Rebels did scramble late. They were down thirty eight to

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twenty four. They scramble late and rally to win forty

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one thirty eight. So it's a win, and that's good.

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Wins in September when you're not playing at your best,

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like they can really matter later in the season. They

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can often become moments that, you know, when a coach,

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a coaching staff, and a team look back on the

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full body of work, they can point back to late

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September and say, hey, that was a turning point. We

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survived a bad defensive performance and we learned how to win,

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and we grew a backbone and we got better. Maybe

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this will be a catalyst for UNLV, But really for

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the Run and Rebels, not a very good September. They

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beat UCLA by seven. Ucla is horrible. Beating UCLA by

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only seven, that doesn't look very good. Now, you know,

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UCLA lost to New Mexico by twenty five points, so

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that makes UNOV look a lot worse. UNLV struggled with

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Idaho State of the FCS in Week one, and we

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We have not seen this team get consistently better. It

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did improve from the Idaho State game in late August

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to the UCLA game a few weeks later, but this

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game against Miami of Ohio no continued improvement. UNOV continues

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to be a sis on defense and there were mistakes

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on offense as well. UNLV still searching for really its

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first complete performance of the season. It played twenty really

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good minutes at the start of the UCLA game, but

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then allowed the Bruins to come back in. So you

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and LV struggling to put together a full sixty minutes

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of football. So at the top of the Mountain West,

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the Mountain West, we're not seeing it. We're not seeing

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Boise State UNLV playing at an elite level. And just

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Mountain West is you know, what are the chances of

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getting the Group of Five championship and the College Football

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Playoff berth which it did last year with Boise State.

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What are the odds about doing it this year? Really?

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Really low? It certainly looks like the American with Navy

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South Florida and a few other contenders, that the American

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seems to have the inside track to the Group of

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five championship. The Mountain West has really dug itself a hole.

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Neither Boise State nor UNLV playing particularly well. One intriguing

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Mountain West story to round out our look at that conference,

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San Diego State. San Diego State blows out Cal thirty

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four to nothing. We did talk about Cal last week.

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promising signal collar hype was beginning to build. Well, he

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runs into a brick wall in San Diego thirty four

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to nothing loss for the Golden Bears. On the other hand,

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San Diego State, well pitching a shutout That kind of

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speaks for itself. So Sean Lewis, the head coach of

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the Aztecs, he's getting improvement out of his team. San

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Diego State whacked Washington State earlier this season, so San

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Diego State might be working its way back into the

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conversation in the Mountain West after this very surprising game.

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more about Cal? That That is certainly an interesting question.

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big league clunker. Antonio Morales of The Athletic who cover

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he covers usc football, he also covers college football. He

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laid out a tweet over the weekends noting that Cal

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has lost to a team with three or fewer wins,

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you know, for the whole season, a team that eventually

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finished the season with no more than three wins. Cow's

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lost to one of those bottom run teams UH in

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multiple seasons over the past a few years, so you know,

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was like minus six hundred, maybe even six fifty on

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the money line. That means you're a really heavy favorite.

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was pretty shocking from week four. So it'll be interesting

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to see was this more about Cal and Cal is

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Cal about to you know, descend and plummet in the

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ACC schedule that's coming up. Or was this col having

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a one off bad night and was this a rare

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good game for San Diego State? Or are the Aztecs

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here to stay and are they going to be a

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factor pushing UNLV and Boise State in the Mountain West.

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That's gonna be interesting. Stanford, the other ACC program, gets

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wiped out by Virginia. Stanford non competitive in that game.

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It really makes that win over Boston College kind of

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an eye opener. You know, how did Stanford beat Boston

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College thirty to twenty? If you know, it just got

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wiped off the map by Virginia and a coach Tony

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Elliott in Charlottesville who's on the hot seat. That it

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really is is a curious case, as a detective might say.

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So Stanford back down to Earth, back down to reality,

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the Cardinal with an abysmal performance. They they live in,

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you know, certainly the bottom tier of college football. So

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the win over Boston College was not an indicator that

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Stanford was on its way back up. That seems to

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have been a one off, and that leads into the

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big ten portion of Get Off My Pilot In our

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Week four review, Boston College took Michigan State to overtime

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earlier this season. That game ended forty two forty for

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Michigan State, and that made me, as so one who

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blogs about USC football, That made me very confident that

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USC was going to put up a big number against

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Michigan State. The Trophans were going to score plenty of points.

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That's exactly what they did. USC wins forty five thirty one. Now,

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it was not an impressive team performance, it was a

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good offensive performance. Jaden Mayava continues to be a stud

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for USC. He's not turning the ball over. He gives

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Lincoln Riley the dual threat athleticism that Riley expects. USC

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struggled last year on offense, partly because Lincoln Riley didn't

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call plays really well, but mostly because Miller Moss was

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not that dynamic dual threat quarterback that is typical for

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Lincoln Riley. You know Kyler Murray, Jalen Hurts, Caleb Williams.

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Those are the guys that Lincoln Riley knows how to

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work with. He knows how to maximize their skill sets.

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Lincoln Riley knows how to use their playmaking ability with

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their legs as well as their arm. And he's able to,

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you know, fake the run and use the pass. He's

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then able to use option pitches. He uses quarterback keepers,

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you know, read option concepts. You know. It's a big toolbox.

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It's a big playpen for Lincoln Riley when he has

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a quarterback who can fake the ball, manipulate the ball,

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use sleight of hand, get outside the pocket, do so

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many different things. Miller Moss is just a fact of

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the matter. He was a seventh step drop back, pro

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style quarterback, a much more limited skill set, a more

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narrow box that he operated in. He did a few

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things really well, but only a few things. He didn't

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give Lincoln Riley a lot of different options that we

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are seeing and we are being reminded. That's why USC's

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offense struggled last year. That's why USC's offense is humming

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this year. We're back to having the complete, well rounded

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quarterback with a lot of different capabilities. That makes the

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Lincoln Riley playbook and the Lincoln Riley scheme come alive.

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Michigan State was just pulled on a string all night long.

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Lincoln Riley goes with an option to the outside and

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then hits him with the inside run up the a gap.

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Lincoln Riley goes with a screen pass to the outside,

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then another thrust up the middle. Lincoln Riley throws the

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ball down field, then he has Jaden Mayava keep the

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ball on a running play, and then defenses think that

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Jade Mihova is going to keep the ball. No, he

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fakes the run and he throws a little pop pass

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to his tight end for an easy touchdown in the

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red zone. Like that is just Lincoln Riley manipulating the field.

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He stretches you out horizontally, did this all the time

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at Oklahoma. He makes defens's account for the full width

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of the field, all fifty three yards sidelined the sideline.

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And then once he stretches you, why Vinnie goes up

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the middle. Defenses pinch inside up the middle. Once you

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know that power running game is established, Lincoln goes back

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to the outside. He was just toying with Michigan State.

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But it all a lot of this goes back to

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just the fundamental difference between Jade and Mayava and normals,

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but it also there the other element of this is

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that you know when we talk about Stanford beating Boston College,

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scoring thirty against Boston College and that same Boston College

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team basically tying Michigan State, Technically, you know there's no

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no ties in college football. Someone eventually has to win.

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But when Boston College scored forty on Michigan State and

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basically played the Spartans to a tie, that was an indicator.

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Michigan State's defense is in no shape to keep up

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with USC, and the Spartans did indeed get roasted. Now

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let's stick with USC for a bit. USC's still committing

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tons of penalties on defense. The secondary is still a mess.

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There are multiple guys in that secondary who are banged up.

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Danton lynn USC defensive coordinators playing Kamari Ramsey, one of

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his best defensive players, in the nickel position. A lot

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of USC fans I talk about this on the USC

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shows that I do USC fans want Kamari Ramsey out

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of nickel, They want him back at safety. Danton Lynz

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making the calculation that with a short handed secondary room,

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he can't afford to have Kamari Ramsey at safety. He

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has to have him in the nickel position. So USC

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not playing with all of its resources in the secondary.

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It's gonna be interesting to see how that problem gets

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addressed and will it continue to manifest itself or will

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it get fixed as the season goes along. UCLA had

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the week off. UCLA prepares for Northwestern this coming weekend.

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Washington hangs fifty nine on Washington State. The Huskies did

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what they were supposed to do. Washington State is a

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bad team, which as Oregon State is as well. Oregon

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State gets pounded by Oregon. So really two uneventful rivalry

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games in the Pacific Northwest. Obviously those rivalry games now

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being played in September because Oregon and Washington are now

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in the Big Ten. They're no longer conference games, so

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they just have to be moved up on the schedule.

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Not a whole lot to pull from those games if

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you're a Washington or an Oregon fan. So you know,

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that really is our review of week four, and I

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said we're gonna focus on week five because week five

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looking ahead, well you have some really big games, and

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we're gonna get to the big one in a bit,

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but let's get to the the not quite as big one,

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not quite as big games for so Big ten. This

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is where you have the showdowns involving Western teams. In

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Week five, Ohio State at Washington. Ohio State goes to

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Husky Stadium in Seattle for a midday game. It's gonna

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be on CBS. Washington statistically has one of the top

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scoring offenses in the country. But and here's a connection

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to make with the Michigan State USC game that I

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witnessed this past weekend. Michigan State going into the USC

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game had a top ten rushing defense. And some people

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will say, well, gosh, USC just absolutely chewed up that

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top ten Michigan State rushing defense. Wow, USC must be

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really good. Hold on, folks, Michigan State was playing that

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terrible Boston College team that lost to Stanford. Michigan State

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played Youngstown State as well. We really need to get

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away from top ten, top twenty rankings in September for

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just about anything in college football. These things don't mean

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jack squat all. Right. If you're playing Cupcakes and you're

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ranked in the top five statistically, that doesn't tell me anything.

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I mean, you're doing what's basically expected. You're not doing

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anything special. If you're top ten going up against elite competition,

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that matters. That's special that tells me something. But don't

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give me this stuff about Michigan State at a top

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ten rushing defense didn't play anybody, all right, beat the

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C teams go up against good opposition. If they demonstrate

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they can play well against quality opponents, then you have something.

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Then the rankings begin to mean something. I just whether

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it's polls and votes or whether it's statistical top tens

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whatever like. We should just wait until at least the

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middle of October, if not early November, to toss around

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these rankings, because that's only after we've played several weeks

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do these things begin to mean something. And you know,

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we're at week four going into week five. It's right

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now when we're when all teams are moving from September

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non conference games into conference play, and now we're beginning

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to learn things about teams. Now the games begin to

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be a true revealer, a true window inside who these

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teams are, what these teams are, what they're all about.

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Only now are we beginning to get the full picture

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of teams. And this really informs our analysis of these

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upcoming Week five games, such as Ohio State versus Washington

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and Ohio State with the elite defense statistically. Washington with

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the elite offense statistically, but Washington hasn't played anybody in

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Ohio State. You know, Ohio State beat arch Manning. Arch

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Manning's not good, so just how good is Ohio State's defense?

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Washington will offer probably a better test than what Ohio

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State got from arch Manning in Texas. So everything is

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just relative at this point. Teams have not played good

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enough competition to really be seen as elite, like like

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we expd. Let me put it this way, I would

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expect Ohio State to be an elite team over the

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course of the season. But do I know Ohio State's

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an elite team right now? Not? Not right now because

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arch Manning's not good. You know, if if arch Manning

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played well in Ohio State's defense still found a way

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to stop him, you know, that would be so different.

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That would be very different from arch Manning not being

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good like Ohio State did the bare minimum. I'm not

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trying to dump on the buck, guys. I'm just saying,

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if you're playing an opponent who's not good, well, of

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course you're of course you're supposed to limit his point total,

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his overall production. Really good defense manifests itself. When you're

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going up against good offense and you're still shutting it down,

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and you're going up against an offense a quarterback who

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has proven itself, and you still shut it down, you

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still get the result, you still get the outcome, you

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still get the production we have. We're not there yet

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with Ohio State. And that's not the Buck guy's fault

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in any way. It just means that the opponents they've played,

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they haven't been good. And it's simihere for Washington. Washington

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hasn't played anyone of note. So now we begin to

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learn about the Buck guys and the Huskies in Husky Stadium,

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and so, you know, Julians say, and Ohio State's quarterback

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going on the road, you know what, let's see if

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Washington's defense can force some turnovers and really swing that game.

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In UW's paper, I think, I think Washington to win

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this game is gonna have to make the game messy

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and ugly. For Julian saying, because I do think Ohio

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State's defense is going to be good, and I've just

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tried to make the point that I don't think Ohio

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State's defense is a fully formed product. I think we

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need to see Ohio State's defense in this kind of game,

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this kind of situation before kind of putting that final

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stamp of yes, this is this really is an elite defense.

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I'd like to see Ohio State do this on the road,

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you know, against an opponent that, as we saw against

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Washington State, certainly has the capability to put up a

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lot of points, Washington scoring fifty nine in the Apple Cup.

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So let's see Ohio State go on the road across

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across the country and put the clamps on U DUB.

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If Ohio State does that, like that will just I'm

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expecting Ohio State to do that, but let's see it

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happen just so that we can confirm this and then

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we can begin to elevate Ohio State's defensive identity and

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reputation this season. So I think that, you know, I

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am expecting Ohio State's defense to do well, but I

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do want to see it happen first. So, you know,

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if I'm expecting Ohio State's defense to do well, that

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means Washington's defense is going to have to muck things up.

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For Julian saying pass rush disguising looks, you know, just

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Washington has had really good defensive back play over the

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past several years, like Washington has a claim to being

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DBU defensive back university, with the NFL players it has

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churned out the draft picks. So Washington's secondary against Julian saying,

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I think is the central matchup in this game and

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Litz see if Ohio State's young and unproven quarterback can

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go into one of college football's greatest settings and when

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the Huskies are good one of its toughest environments and

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deliver the goods. That's gonna be the the featured plot

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point of Buck Guys at Huskies as Washington tries to

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strike a blow through the West Coast portion of the

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Big Ten. The other big time featured game other than

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are our main presentation. We're gonna get to that in

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a bit. The other high profile game involving the West

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Coast Big Ten team USC at Illinois Fox Big Noon Saturday,

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and this game has USC is a six and a

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half point favorite early in the week. That's an eye opener. Now.

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Brett Bielima, the Illinois coach, said his team was missing

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several defensive backs against Indiana, and Illinois has picked up

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a lot of defensive injuries that is definitely a point

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00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,440
of concern for Illinois. It's definitely a point of optimism

477
00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:56,160
for USC going to this Fox Big noon game in

478
00:30:56,279 --> 00:30:59,720
week five. So I think the six and a half

479
00:30:59,759 --> 00:31:02,720
point line is really a reflection not so much of

480
00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:05,640
Illinois losing to Indiana by fifty three, though I mean

481
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,240
that obviously helped, but it's also a reflection of just

482
00:31:09,319 --> 00:31:13,079
Illinois being really banged up, really shorthanded on defense. You

483
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,440
put that short handed Illinois defense against Jade and Mayava,

484
00:31:16,839 --> 00:31:20,319
who's playing some really good ball, and it's easy to

485
00:31:20,359 --> 00:31:22,519
think that USC is going to be able to score

486
00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:26,319
a high number of points, something that Illinois's offense will

487
00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:29,440
be hard, will find it hard to keep up with.

488
00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:33,640
So the Illinois injury situation that's going to be the

489
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,160
thing you'll you'll want to monitor all week leading up

490
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,240
to kickoff Saturday morning or Saturday at noon on the

491
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:47,519
East Coast. Can Illinois get healthy and can Illinois's secondary

492
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,039
do some damage control so that it's not completely at

493
00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:54,839
the mercy of the USC passing game. Notable for USC

494
00:31:55,079 --> 00:31:58,599
is that one of its top two receivers, Jacobe Lane,

495
00:31:58,839 --> 00:32:01,759
did not play against Mission in State. Lincoln Riley said

496
00:32:01,799 --> 00:32:06,039
It's not something he envisions as a long term problem.

497
00:32:06,119 --> 00:32:09,759
So one would think that after a week off chance

498
00:32:09,799 --> 00:32:12,160
to fully heal, Jacoby Lane should be back in the

499
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:17,400
lineup for USC. Mkayle Lemon is a dude. Mckaye Lenvion

500
00:32:18,079 --> 00:32:23,480
flourished for USC against Michigan State. He's been flourishing all season. However,

501
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,119
let's pump the brakes just a little. USC has been

502
00:32:26,119 --> 00:32:31,880
playing inferior teams Missouri State, Georgia Southern perdue a Michigan

503
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,559
State defense which, as I explained earlier in the show,

504
00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:37,720
is not very good at all. So, you know, can

505
00:32:37,839 --> 00:32:42,200
the Illinois defense provide a standard of play and a

506
00:32:42,319 --> 00:32:45,920
level of resistance which is much better and much more

507
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:50,440
significant than anything USC's offense has seen to this point.

508
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,119
That's going to be interesting. But you know, if USC

509
00:32:53,319 --> 00:32:57,039
can put Jacoby Lane on the field alongside Makayle Lemon

510
00:32:57,559 --> 00:33:01,079
against the shorthanded Illinois secondary in USC might be able

511
00:33:01,079 --> 00:33:05,400
to throw the ball very very successfully. H USC might

512
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,839
be able to throw the ball early, you know, establish

513
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,000
the pass, and then hit Illinois with the running game

514
00:33:12,559 --> 00:33:15,119
midway through. I think it's I think it's really important

515
00:33:16,519 --> 00:33:19,799
that USC, from a US standpoint, US. He needs to

516
00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:22,319
get on top of this game so that it's not

517
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,480
chasing the game and its offense can can operate in

518
00:33:27,559 --> 00:33:32,359
a comfortable time and score situation. If Illinois gets on

519
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,200
top of this game of the first quarter, you might

520
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,440
see USC panic because USC has just had it very

521
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,960
easy on offense each of its first four games. USC's

522
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,200
offense has had dramatically better personnel than each of its

523
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:51,400
first four opponents. If Illinois offers robust resistance and strength

524
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,359
in the first quarter, in the first half of this game,

525
00:33:55,559 --> 00:33:59,799
and USC just doesn't find early success, you could see

526
00:33:59,799 --> 00:34:03,680
some hanick set in for this untested USC offense, you know,

527
00:34:03,799 --> 00:34:07,039
just breezing through the first four games. What happens when

528
00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:11,920
a defense provides a better level of opposition. So, you know,

529
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,840
looking at this game from USC standpoint, I want to

530
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,239
get that early ten to fourteen to nothing lead. I

531
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,960
can then have my elite defensive line, or let me

532
00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:24,599
let me rephrase that, I can have my elite pass

533
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:29,239
rush get after Illinois quarterback Luke Altmeyer. You know, USC

534
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,280
getting up early means that the pass rush for USC.

535
00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:36,960
The pass rush is by far USC's best defensive component.

536
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:44,800
USC's pass rush has been fantastic over fifteen sacks so

537
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:50,119
far this season, regularly getting to the quarterback, regularly causing

538
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:54,000
havoc in the backfield. USC getting up early means that

539
00:34:54,039 --> 00:34:58,320
the pass rush is in position to continue to have

540
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,400
a major impact on the game. But if Illino get

541
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,039
off to a lead and can then can control the

542
00:35:03,079 --> 00:35:07,679
ball draine clock, Illinois doesn't have to throw in the

543
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:12,800
middle and ladder stages of the game. It can play

544
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,679
a very patient defensive style. It can force USC to

545
00:35:17,039 --> 00:35:19,800
move the ball slowly down the field, take away the

546
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,280
home run, and Illinois can dictate that the style of

547
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:28,239
the game with the way that it's played. So to me,

548
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,280
this is a this is a game where the first

549
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,039
quarter is really gonna matter. And you know with the

550
00:35:33,079 --> 00:35:37,599
fox big noon carnival atmosphere in Champagne, and I think

551
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:39,599
if Illinois gets off to a good start, it could

552
00:35:39,679 --> 00:35:43,480
really just create an avalanche of momentum for the ALIGNI

553
00:35:43,519 --> 00:35:45,199
that carries through the rest of the game. But if

554
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,960
USC can hit Illinois with a couple early haymakers, then

555
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,480
that Illinois team, which just lost by fifty three to

556
00:35:52,519 --> 00:35:55,239
Indiana might not be able to stay in the fight

557
00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,440
the whole way. And USC's offense can just have, you know,

558
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:05,000
a free run through the open fields of Memorial Stadium

559
00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:10,960
in Champagne. So a fascinating encounter between USC and Illinois

560
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,599
and an extra little plot point. Kurt Signetti, the coach

561
00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:17,239
of Indiana, who you know, they just you know, tossed

562
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,239
around Illinois like a dirty old rag. Kurt Signetti was

563
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,039
asked on Monday about the Iowa game and he said, well,

564
00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:27,280
it's definitely gonna be a bigger challenge than the last one,

565
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:32,840
that's for sure. So Kurt Signetti throwing elbows at Illinois

566
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,920
after discarding the Aliini what was a very big, very hyped,

567
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,800
and very important game for the two schools. So Illinois

568
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,079
could be a paper tiger. But it's up to USC

569
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,800
to go to Champagne, go on the road and win

570
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,440
that high profile game. You know, people are uncertain, you know,

571
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,760
what to make of USC. If USC goes to Champagne

572
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,880
and wins convincingly, that should begin to change the conversation

573
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,920
about USC. But it could be that Illinois is just

574
00:37:04,199 --> 00:37:08,840
so decimated by injuries and it has been overrated that

575
00:37:09,159 --> 00:37:12,719
you know, if USC wins a close, ugly, sloppy game,

576
00:37:13,159 --> 00:37:17,320
that might not really cement any idea that USC has

577
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,960
really turned things around. It'll be more. The story might

578
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,480
be more that, oh, Illinois just plummeted. Illinois has fallen

579
00:37:24,639 --> 00:37:29,159
like a rock. So you know, watch for that level

580
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,079
of degree of difficulty. How difficult is this game? How

581
00:37:33,079 --> 00:37:36,719
difficult will it turn out to be? The conversation surrounding

582
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,280
USC as well as Illinois. It's going to depend a

583
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,559
lot on this very big game. All right. So in

584
00:37:43,639 --> 00:37:48,079
our week five preview, we now arrive at the big one,

585
00:37:48,559 --> 00:37:52,480
and I am talking about Oregon going to Happy Valley,

586
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:58,119
Penn State, nighttime, prime time to face the Nidneyllons. It's

587
00:37:58,159 --> 00:38:02,920
the first really huge, huge Big Ten Conference game of

588
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,199
the season. You have two teams expected to be in

589
00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:10,159
the college football playoff race, expected to be competing for

590
00:38:10,199 --> 00:38:14,519
the national championship. They met in the Big Ten Championship game.

591
00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:20,679
Last season. Oregon won the Big Ten title, beating Penn State,

592
00:38:21,159 --> 00:38:25,079
but Penn State, interestingly enough, made the semifinals and therefore

593
00:38:25,159 --> 00:38:28,320
made a deeper run than an Oregon team which went

594
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,719
thirteen to zero in the regular season last year, but

595
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,119
then ran into the juggernaut from Ohio State in the

596
00:38:35,199 --> 00:38:38,840
Rose Bowl and the playoff quarterfinals. So Oregon and Penn

597
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,159
State two teams which if you were to say right

598
00:38:41,199 --> 00:38:42,960
now you know they're going to be in the college

599
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:49,360
football playoff semifinals, You'll say, hey, that could very realistically happen,

600
00:38:50,599 --> 00:38:54,320
very legitimate chance. But the Ducks and the Nitney Lions

601
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,920
could be battling for a spot in the national championship game.

602
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,480
So this is the big one. You also have Alabama

603
00:39:01,519 --> 00:39:05,320
and Georgia in Week five, but you know Alabama already

604
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,280
has that loss over Florida State. So Oregon Penn State

605
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,480
is the best and biggest game on the board. So

606
00:39:13,559 --> 00:39:16,840
let's dive into it, and of course, get off my pilon.

607
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,880
We're focused on the western team, so we're looking at

608
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:24,159
this game mostly from Oregon's point of view. Most of

609
00:39:24,199 --> 00:39:27,480
the conversation and most of the reality of this game

610
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:32,480
begins with, of course, quarterback Dante Moore. Now he has

611
00:39:32,519 --> 00:39:36,679
looked fabulous in the first few weeks of the season.

612
00:39:37,159 --> 00:39:40,599
But to continue a theme, a theme that has run

613
00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:43,119
through this show here and get off my pilon. You

614
00:39:43,159 --> 00:39:46,480
know who is Ohio State played? That's been so good

615
00:39:46,559 --> 00:39:49,440
on offense? You know Ohio State's defense I think is

616
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,280
really good. But we need to see Ohio State play

617
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:57,760
a good offense and contain that good offense before we

618
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,880
elevate the Buckeye's reputation. Washington has scored a billion points,

619
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,000
but against Tomato Cans. I need to see Washington's offense

620
00:40:06,599 --> 00:40:10,480
do something against better competition before I elevate the reputation

621
00:40:10,599 --> 00:40:16,480
of the Huskies' offensive attack. USC played easy opponents thus far,

622
00:40:16,559 --> 00:40:19,280
It's been easy for USC's offense. I need to see

623
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:24,519
USC's offense do it against better defense, better competition. That's

624
00:40:24,559 --> 00:40:27,719
the theme here between week four and week five. At

625
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,199
this you know, basically one third of the way through

626
00:40:31,199 --> 00:40:33,760
the season. Now that we're getting into the bigger games,

627
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:38,360
the bigger conference battles such as Oregon Penn State, now's

628
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,719
when we begin to rip the mask off. Now's when

629
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,920
we lift the veil. Now's when we begin to see

630
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,039
the true face of these teams, of these programs, how

631
00:40:49,039 --> 00:40:53,239
good they are right now? So, Oregon, you know that

632
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,440
six sixty nine to three win over Oklahoma State, It

633
00:40:57,519 --> 00:41:02,920
sure looked pretty, But we're seeing, folks, right Oklahoma State

634
00:41:03,079 --> 00:41:09,480
is atrocious. Oklahoma State is right there with UCLA the

635
00:41:09,519 --> 00:41:16,360
worst power for conference team in college football. Like Stanford

636
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:21,159
would beat Oklahoma State. Right now, Stanford has actually shown

637
00:41:21,159 --> 00:41:24,719
more than Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State UCLA might be the

638
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:29,079
bottom two in terms of all the power for conference teams.

639
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,800
So of course Oregon's gonna beat Oklahoma State sixty nine

640
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,280
to three. You know, this is not a good Mike

641
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,800
Gundhy Oklahoma State team. Gundhy's probably gonna be fired, He's

642
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,000
probably not gonna be coaching and still water next season.

643
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,320
So you know that sixty nine to three. It's certainly

644
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,639
looked good on television. That game was a CBS game,

645
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:53,360
but Oklahoma State is just atrocious, So that is a

646
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,880
little bit of context like that that was just a

647
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,960
glorified scrimmage for Oregon. And you know, Mike Gundy was

648
00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:04,320
running his mouth about Oregon in the lead up to

649
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,800
that game, so Oregon was motivated to really put it

650
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:12,760
on Oklahoma State. You add that to the fact that

651
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:18,400
Oklahoma State's abysmal, so like no one should be getting

652
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:23,320
carried away about how good Oregon and Dante Moore looked

653
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,519
in that game. And Oregon State another opponent that Oregon

654
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:34,039
easily dismissed last week. Oregon State's terrible, So Oregon Oregon

655
00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:37,519
eight played no about it, Paul, you know, as an

656
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:42,559
SEC talk radio program might go. So, now we see

657
00:42:42,639 --> 00:42:46,760
Oregon against one of the big boys, and Oregon has

658
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,280
a Big ten win. But Oregon played Northwestern, and Northwestern

659
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,239
might actually be almost as bad as UCLA and of

660
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,719
course Ucilia. Northwestern they played this weekend, So the two

661
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,480
teams expected to be at the bottom of a big

662
00:42:58,519 --> 00:43:03,039
ten go at it this weekend, and then Oregon Penn

663
00:43:03,039 --> 00:43:05,840
State are going to play just a few hours later. Well,

664
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:12,000
Oregon did not crush Northwestern. Oregon was a few touchdowns better,

665
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,519
but that was not sixty nine to three. Oregon did

666
00:43:16,559 --> 00:43:21,119
not even score fifty in that game. So Dante More

667
00:43:21,199 --> 00:43:26,400
has basically had one big preseason tune up, warm up

668
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:33,280
stretch of games, and only now will he face a

669
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,079
really good team. And you know, it's just notable Oregon

670
00:43:37,159 --> 00:43:41,559
goes from playing Tomato Cans to the opposite end of

671
00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:45,079
the spectrum Penn State. It's not as though Oregon's moving

672
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,719
slowly up a ladder. You go from playing the total

673
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:54,960
Tomato Cans too. Let's say, you know, Nebraska like a

674
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,400
mid tier Big ten team and then gets to play

675
00:43:58,599 --> 00:44:03,599
Penn State after that no, Oregon goes from absolute tomato

676
00:44:03,679 --> 00:44:06,760
camp right to the top of the college football food chain,

677
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,360
and a Penn State team, which you know, under James

678
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:13,119
Franklin with Drew Aller coming back like this is supposed

679
00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:17,159
to be the year if not now when for Penn

680
00:44:17,199 --> 00:44:22,320
State and the Nitney Lyons have looked very ordinary in

681
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:27,280
their first few games, but they have been cupcakes as well.

682
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,320
They've been tune ups. Andy kotel Nikki, the Penn State

683
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:35,480
offensive coordinator, certainly not showing a lot in his playbook.

684
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,320
Penn State's been very vanilla, and you know, why would

685
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:44,239
you show too much of anything against the cupcake opponents

686
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,559
in the first few weeks of the season knowing that

687
00:44:46,599 --> 00:44:50,119
you have that Oregon game on September twenty seventh. So really,

688
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:55,119
Oregon and Penn State, they have jogged through easy games

689
00:44:55,519 --> 00:44:59,719
against opponents who posed absolutely zero threat and now they

690
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,440
both of meat and so you know, Drew Hour certainly

691
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,800
faces a proven moment of his own, but like he's

692
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,280
been through this rodeo. He played in the College Football Playoff,

693
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,440
won a couple of playoff games, you know, played in

694
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:18,079
a very high tension, high stress semi final that he

695
00:45:18,159 --> 00:45:22,320
lost against Notre Dame. So like Drew Hour is supposed

696
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,760
to be good in this moment. I say that not

697
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,679
in the sense of the matchup against Oregon. I'm saying

698
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,360
it just in terms of like he has all the

699
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,440
experience in the world, and there are frankly no excuses

700
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,000
for Dante More It's a little different like this. This

701
00:45:37,159 --> 00:45:39,639
is his first go ram and this will be his

702
00:45:39,679 --> 00:45:43,480
first major college football challenge. And he's not just facing

703
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,840
Penn State. He's facing Penn State at night, so that's

704
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:52,960
a more intimidating environment. And this is another layer to

705
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,239
the drama that's going to unfold and Happy Valley. Penn

706
00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:01,159
State has Jim Knowles, and Jim Knowles is the defensive

707
00:46:01,199 --> 00:46:06,920
coordinator who last season smothered Oregon and Dylan Gabriel, and

708
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,599
Dylan Gabriel is a proven college football quarterback. You know,

709
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,800
Dylan Gabriel had all the experience in the world. Jim

710
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,599
Knowles in that Ohio State defense shut down the Oregon

711
00:46:16,679 --> 00:46:21,360
offense in the Rose Bowl. So Jim Knowles now at

712
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,199
Penn State, he goes up against Dante Moore. You know,

713
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Jim Knowles is gonna throw a lot of disguises, a

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lot of different looks at Dante Moore. So how is

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this young and untested quarterback going to fare at night

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against Penn State in a game of the year type

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of setting and situation. That that's really where the conversation

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for this game starts. The conversation continues with the other side,

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Drew Hour. You know, this is Drew Hour's time to

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live up to the hype, to live up to the expectations.

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What's he going to bring to the table against the

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Oregon defense. And if you're the Oregon d defense, like

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you've been playing Oregon State, you've been playing Oklahoma State,

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You've played an FCS team, Montana State, you've played Northwestern.

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So what's true of Dante Moore is also true of

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Oregons defense. Havn't faced you know, strong competition, and now

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you get thrown into the pot against Penn State. So

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Oregon's defense, as much as Dante Moore certainly has a

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lot to prove against Penn State, everyone has a lot

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to prove here because these teams are really coming at

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the game from similar situations. You know, Penn State tested

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itself early last season with a road trip to West Virginia.

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Penn State hasn't had that kind of test this season,

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so like for both teams, this is the first It's

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not just a huge game in its own right, of

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course it is, but it's also like the first big test.

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Neither team has had a kind of a quote unquote

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00:47:58,639 --> 00:48:02,000
warm up test the way other schools do, Like there

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wasn't like the big Week two game to kind of

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00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,920
prepare these teams for Week five. No, they've both had

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a very easy go of it, and now they both

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face their first big challenge. So we begin to learn

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about both Oregon and Penn State, and in addition to

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that obvious storyline, the whole Big ten really exists in

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a context of just how good are these teams. I

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don't know how good Ohio State is. I don't know

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how good Penn State is. I don't know how good

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Oregon is. I don't know how good Washington is. I

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don't know how good USC is. I don't know how

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00:48:38,559 --> 00:48:44,039
good Illinois is. I think Indiana's pretty good when Indiana

751
00:48:44,079 --> 00:48:47,280
puts a sixty three to ten on Illinois, but you know,

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00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,400
Indiana goes to Iowa. Indiana's gonna play Penn State later

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00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,360
this season. There's still gonna be a lot. There's gonna

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00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,480
be a lot more for Indiana to prove. But at

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least Indiana, you know, in contrast to the other ten

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teams I've been talking about, Indiana's put a big result

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00:49:04,679 --> 00:49:07,599
on the board. Like Indiana has made a statement in

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00:49:07,679 --> 00:49:13,079
a notable, high profile conference game. Now we need to

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see if Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon, usc Illinois, will

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00:49:18,119 --> 00:49:21,400
they put a big statement on the board as the

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Big Ten race takes shape. So Oregon versus Penn State

762
00:49:27,639 --> 00:49:33,039
cannot wait for this game. It's obviously a quarterback centric game.

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But you know, if the quarterbacks play to a draw,

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what about the depth on these rosters? What about the

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role players and the other pieces of the puzzle. Thinking

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00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,639
about Penn State just for a brief bit, you know,

767
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,760
Tyler Warren was that amazing do it all tight end

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00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:54,199
for Drew Hour last season. Drew Allard doesn't have Tyler

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00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,119
Warren this year. Warren's now in the NFL with the

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00:49:57,159 --> 00:50:01,519
Indianapolis Colts. Who steps up for Penn State in the

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00:50:01,559 --> 00:50:06,920
passing game? And can Oregon's secondary really pounce on Drew

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Hour and that Penn State passing attack With Tyler Warren

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00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,039
out of the mix, you know, Tyler Warren was part

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of the Penn State roster that went against Oregon in

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00:50:17,199 --> 00:50:19,639
the Big Ten title game. Now that he's out of

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00:50:19,679 --> 00:50:23,320
the mix, Dan Lanning and his staff might see points

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00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,559
of vulnerability in the Penn State offense. And so maybe

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00:50:26,559 --> 00:50:28,920
it gets to a point where, you know what, Dante

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00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,199
Moore doesn't have to be the hero. He can just

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00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,519
be a game manager, and Oregon's defense can snuff out

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00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:36,960
Drew Hour. You go into happy Value, you play a

782
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,840
twenty to ten game, you get the win just the same,

783
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,639
and you're on your way to the Big Ten championship

784
00:50:42,639 --> 00:50:45,599
game and the playoff. Maybe that's how it plays out.

785
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,199
But whatever the matter, Oregon and Penn State are very

786
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:53,280
mysterious teams. They haven't played anybody, and now they both

787
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:57,559
play each other early in the season. You don't get

788
00:50:57,559 --> 00:51:01,639
that scenario all the time college football. Now, Ohio State,

789
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,599
Texas that was a Week one game right out of

790
00:51:04,599 --> 00:51:08,960
the shoot with no prior tune ups. But this is

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a scenario where Oregon and Penn State have just basically

792
00:51:12,679 --> 00:51:17,440
played glorified scrimmages in tune up games, and instead of

793
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,360
having kind of mid tier Big Ten games to kind

794
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,599
of settle into the season. No, they both go to

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00:51:22,639 --> 00:51:25,119
the top of the pyramid, the top of the food

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00:51:25,199 --> 00:51:30,320
chain right away. So can't wait for Saturday night at

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00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,599
seven thirty Eastern, four thirty Pacific, and it is the

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00:51:33,639 --> 00:51:36,360
featured game of the week in college football, and we're

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obviously can have so much to tell you about on

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00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,920
Get Off My Pilon next week as we review that

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00:51:43,039 --> 00:51:48,280
Oregon Penn State game, also those other big games Ohio State, Washington,

802
00:51:49,119 --> 00:51:54,519
and USC versus Illinois. So that's the week for Get

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00:51:54,519 --> 00:51:56,599
Off My Pilon. You know, a little bit of Week

804
00:51:56,639 --> 00:51:59,360
four review, but a lot of Week five preview, Like

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00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,679
this was the first week of the season in which

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00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,639
we spent I think more time previewing the next week

807
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,000
than reviewing the past week. And that's just because the

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00:52:09,039 --> 00:52:11,400
bit there, you have some really big games coming up,

809
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,079
and those really big games, as I mentioned earlier in

810
00:52:15,119 --> 00:52:18,800
the show, we're going to finally begin to reveal these

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teams for what they are. We're finally going to see

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00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,199
how good a lot of these teams truly are. And

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00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,400
that is the excitement of the college football season, is

814
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,960
we get past those non conference games, we get past

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00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:36,760
those cupcakes, those paycheck games, now's the nitty gritty, now's

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00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,440
the real deal, and so Oregon and Penn State the

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00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:45,159
ultimate centerpiece in college football Week five. That is what

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we're going to be focused on here on Get Off

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My Pilon part of the College Gridiron Coast to Coast

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podcast network, Grid and Coast on Twitter, listen to Apple Speaker, Spotify,

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the other places where you listen to your podcast, and

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of course Oregon Penn State being a huge game, follow

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00:53:03,599 --> 00:53:08,880
Noah Drury and Big ten Paradigm for continued and developed

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00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,880
coverage of that game. You also want to follow Yards

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and Stripes for the Service Academies. You want to follow

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the All Sports Discussion acc podcast, Jason Powers with the

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Florida Football Insiders podcast, and the rest of the family

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of College Grade AIRN Coast to Coast podcast coming at

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you every week giving you the full college football experience

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from all the different corners of the United States and

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the Football Bowl Subdivision. This is Matt Zenweg for Get

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Off My Pilon. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next

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