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Speaker 2: So Louisville in action tomorrow taking on I don't even
Speaker 2: know is it Cal or Stanford. I think it's Cal. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's Cal. So the two the two West Coast schools
Speaker 2: coming to town for Louisville tomorrow and on Saturday to
Speaker 2: wrap up the h the regular season. And I hadn't
Speaker 2: even thought about Senior Day on Saturday, but a couple
Speaker 2: of people mentioned it on the text line, and yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean it'll be it'll be weird because I mean,
Speaker 2: you've got and really, I don't even like Javon Hadley
Speaker 2: can play in college basketball next year if he wants to.
Speaker 2: Same thing for Casein pryor same thing for I guess
Speaker 2: that's like like Fat is out of eligibility, Chucky will
Speaker 2: be with that is going to be without out of eligibility,
Speaker 2: Rain out of out of eligibility, and Big Frank is
Speaker 2: out of eligibility. So you got James, Scott, Ken, I Russ,
Speaker 2: and I guess those are the two that like we
Speaker 2: know will not be participating. But anybody else, I guess
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's tough to say because like Casen
Speaker 2: was in his final year of eligibility, but he gets
Speaker 2: an extra year because of the JUCO rule and then
Speaker 2: also he can apply for a medical red shirt and
Speaker 2: he can he can get two years if he wants,
Speaker 2: so I would assume with him not looking like an
Speaker 2: NBA draft prospect, and of course he's not even going
Speaker 2: to be able to work out for teams because you
Speaker 2: know he's recovering from a torn ACL I think it'd
Speaker 2: be a no brainer to come back to college, and
Speaker 2: I would assume he'd want to come back to Louisville,
Speaker 2: but you really just never know. So yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: what they decide to do, I'm not sure. So we
Speaker 2: know Chucky and Terrence and a Trey ol Ray as well.
Speaker 2: Trailway is going to be the guy who doesn't have
Speaker 2: any eligibility left, so hepburn Edwards, Trejure, those and Rain
Speaker 2: and Noah, those guys are for sure going to be
Speaker 2: included in senior Day. But again, Javon, because he played
Speaker 2: a year at Juco, he could come back if he'd liked.
Speaker 2: But he is a senior, and so is Casein and Cooran.
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, he he certainly is going
Speaker 2: to be able to apply for a medical red shirt
Speaker 2: if if he wants. Yeah, Coran is just a this
Speaker 2: is Koran's June true junior season. So yeah, he'll he won't.
Speaker 2: He won't be a part of it regardless because even
Speaker 2: if he doesn't come back to Louisville, he's not a senior.
Speaker 2: So and by the way, so for those who don't
Speaker 2: and I'll I already said this really quickly because I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's not me. For those who
Speaker 2: wonder how Javon and prior could be coming back because
Speaker 2: of the JUCO things, So diegy, Diego Pavia. That's the
Speaker 2: young man's name, right, the quarterback for Vandy. Thank him.
Speaker 2: Junior college athletes should be thanking him because he followed
Speaker 2: a lawsuit against the NC Double A claiming that his
Speaker 2: years of playing junior college should not count towards his
Speaker 2: NC double A eligibility because the NJC Double A is
Speaker 2: an entirely different entity than the NC DOUBLEA. So basically saying,
Speaker 2: you shouldn't hold you should not be able to hold
Speaker 2: years against you should not be able to count towards
Speaker 2: my four years of eligibility if I didn't spend those
Speaker 2: years playing you know, within your underneath the umbrella of
Speaker 2: the NC double A. And he won. So what the
Speaker 2: NCUBLEA did. Instead of looking at each case individually, they
Speaker 2: basically said, while we try to figure this out, we're
Speaker 2: just going to say that if you are a college
Speaker 2: athlete and your eligibility was expiring this year, in any
Speaker 2: of those years counting towards your expiration is one, if
Speaker 2: one or two seasons, even one of them, it doesn't
Speaker 2: have to be two, just one of them was played
Speaker 2: in the junior college level, then you get an you
Speaker 2: get an extra year. So Javon started his career at Northeastern,
Speaker 2: a very small Division I school, and then he went
Speaker 2: to Indian Hills Junior College for a season, was really
Speaker 2: good there, and then he was at Colorado for two years.
Speaker 2: So that year of JUCO is now not counted towards
Speaker 2: his eligibility. Same thing for Cason. Cason started his career
Speaker 2: at Boise State, and I believe at Boise State could
Speaker 2: be wrong. I believe he was there one year, maybe two.
Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna have to look it up. Yeah, So
Speaker 2: Cason played at Boise for two seasons and then ended
Speaker 2: up going JUCO and then played at South Florida last year.
Speaker 2: So technically Cason can get a year for the JUCO
Speaker 2: A year for the medical red shirt because he didn't
Speaker 2: play and enough of Louisville's games this year. So again,
Speaker 2: maybe they maybe they're honored at Senior Night. Maybe they're not.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe they already answered that and I
Speaker 2: just don't realize that. I'm not sure. But yeah, I mean, look,
Speaker 2: if you've you've currently you've got you're Pat Kelsey. You've
Speaker 2: got two guys coming in. The big man from Europe
Speaker 2: who is currently I think he's Yeah, let me let
Speaker 2: me just double check this because I think this is
Speaker 2: something that not that we talk a ton about recruiting
Speaker 2: here in I mean, we just don't talk a lot
Speaker 2: about recruiting on the show. But for what it's worth,
Speaker 2: the big fella that committed Louisville out of nowhere, Sonny
Speaker 2: threw from Germany. He ended up getting a profile on
Speaker 2: twenty four seven Sports, and he is now a top
Speaker 2: twenty five player overall and a high four star. In fact,
Speaker 2: he's ranked a head of Malacamorino, who's heading to Kentucky,
Speaker 2: also one of the front court players in this twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five class. So you've let's just say, you've got
Speaker 2: Sonny through and oh, by the way, a top five
Speaker 2: player overall, the number one point guard mckel brown junior.
Speaker 2: And then let's say you know you're bringing back. Let's
Speaker 2: say you bring back when you know you well, I
Speaker 2: guess I shouldn't say you know you're bringing back, because
Speaker 2: I guess things could change. But I would hope that
Speaker 2: kenn I Rus comes back, and I would hope James
Speaker 2: Scott comes back, and I think you will. And then
Speaker 2: let's say you get Korn back, you get Casing back,
Speaker 2: you get Javan back. I mean that leaves it to
Speaker 2: where you really you've got not as many spots to
Speaker 2: fill in the portal. And if you go out there
Speaker 2: and get you know, like some I mean imagine going
Speaker 2: and getting a Chucky or a Terrence or you know,
Speaker 2: guys like that, I mean, this team could be really
Speaker 2: special next year. However, somebody stopped me the other day.
Speaker 2: I was I was where was I Oh? I was
Speaker 2: leaving Elma Paul and I was talking to somebody who
Speaker 2: who brought up something that I'd said and they and
Speaker 2: they agreed and hadn't thought about it, which, like, I'm
Speaker 2: sure there's many people who don't agree with things. That's
Speaker 2: but I don't know, like I think we just we
Speaker 2: got the we got a magical group of guys that
Speaker 2: that came in. Not to say that like these guys
Speaker 2: are once in a lifetime talents, although they're good, clearly
Speaker 2: Chucky's a special, special guy, but like you could have
Speaker 2: on paper a class that ranks ahead of Louisville's portal
Speaker 2: class that they just brought in the team we're watching
Speaker 2: right now. Like, I just I think it's really been
Speaker 2: the perfect storm for Pat Kelsey. He found guys that won,
Speaker 2: are good enough to play here, they fit what he
Speaker 2: wants to do, They're mature, they clearly have bought in
Speaker 2: and and and they are, in my opinion a lot
Speaker 2: of times a reflection of him from the sideline when
Speaker 2: they're on the floor as far as their energy and
Speaker 2: their enthusiasm and all that. So, you know, I do
Speaker 2: think Louisville could be really good moving forward. I see
Speaker 2: no reason why Pat Kelsey can't keep this thing going
Speaker 2: and get Louisville back to where they're just a consistent
Speaker 2: top tier ACC program that every year is in the
Speaker 2: tournament safely, and who knows, maybe every now and then
Speaker 2: there's a special team. Do you feel like could win
Speaker 2: at all? I mean, we're not there yet. I'm getting
Speaker 2: a little bit ahead of myself. But while I see
Speaker 2: no reason why that can happen, I also have found myself,
Speaker 2: especially during this run when they were just you know,
Speaker 2: mowing down teams, like this is a special group too,
Speaker 2: that like we should Like, I don't know how easy
Speaker 2: it's going to be to recreate how this whole thing
Speaker 2: came together, because look, there's teams out there that have
Speaker 2: better talent than the low level top to bottom, have
Speaker 2: more depth, have better NBA, better NBA prospects, that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff, But that's not you know, what's really evident
Speaker 2: in recent years is that you get guys that can
Speaker 2: play well together that are all collectively bought in, because
Speaker 2: when you're mixing and matching, you can have a roster that, man,
Speaker 2: on paper, it's loaded. It looks like it's going to
Speaker 2: be tough for anybody to beat them because they had
Speaker 2: really good players, and they brought those guys back, and
Speaker 2: then the players that weren't so good they transferred and
Speaker 2: they added other really good players. So like, finding that
Speaker 2: perfect balance is easier said than done. And I really think,
Speaker 2: you know, with this team, maybe I'm wrong here, Maybe
Speaker 2: maybe we see this team in the postseason look better
Speaker 2: than we've ever seen them play. I hope that's the case.
Speaker 2: They'd be awesome. But what has made this run so
Speaker 2: awesome one is clearly what we got what we had
Speaker 2: gone through in previous seasons where we were just you know, miserable.
Speaker 2: I mean, we were dead as a program seemingly. That's
Speaker 2: a big factor and why this has been so awesome.
Speaker 2: But also like I feel like we're getting really the
Speaker 2: maximum amount of what we can get out of these guys. Sure,
Speaker 2: sometimes they're gonna have off nights and not make shots.
Speaker 2: They'll have games where you know they didn't play their best,
Speaker 2: but like who on the floor that's playing legitimate minutes?
Speaker 2: For Pat Kelsey, do you feel like we're not getting
Speaker 2: enough out of as far as like what what? Like
Speaker 2: I guess what the better way to word it would be,
Speaker 2: he's maximizing what these guys can do. Like there's not
Speaker 2: I mean maybe maybe you could say, like Canai ruis
Speaker 2: but like he's a freshman, like you're gonna see it
Speaker 2: flashes that will remind you why he's a top thirty
Speaker 2: five overall recruit, but also you know he's an eighteen
Speaker 2: year old kid playing against playing with mostly grown ups,
Speaker 2: and again that speaks to why he, to me, should
Speaker 2: be a no brainer for Player of the Coach of
Speaker 2: the Year in the ACC We talked about that earlier
Speaker 2: for those who missed it, because I'm starting to get
Speaker 2: a little paranoid that they're going to give it to
Speaker 2: John Shire. And John Shire has done a great job, can't.
Speaker 2: I can't sit here and tear him down like he's
Speaker 2: not worthy. But this award has typically gone to a
Speaker 2: coach who's done a good job, meaning his team is good,
Speaker 2: but he's also surpassed expectations, and more than just calling
Speaker 2: them an overachiever, I think the better way to like
Speaker 2: make it because I think sometimes an overachiever can be
Speaker 2: almost like a It's almost like a backhanded compliment in
Speaker 2: a way. I think maybe not, maybe that's just me
Speaker 2: that sees it that way, But I think the best
Speaker 2: way to describe what should really factor more than anything
Speaker 2: when it comes to Coach of the Year is do
Speaker 2: you feel like a team is in the position they're
Speaker 2: in because this guy's coaching his ass off, because this
Speaker 2: guy his whatever he's doing when it comes to coaching,
Speaker 2: that has been the that has been a big factor
Speaker 2: in why a team is where they are, and there's
Speaker 2: nothing that says John Shire hasn't done a good job.
Speaker 2: But let's be real, I think a lot of coaches
Speaker 2: feel like they could take the team he has and
Speaker 2: be very successful because he's got three lottery picks on
Speaker 2: his team and one guy who a lot of people
Speaker 2: think is the best college player and like forever so
Speaker 2: Louisll's got good players, but like, let's be real, I
Speaker 2: feel like Pat Kelsey seems to be the real factor
Speaker 2: in why this is all working. And that's not taking
Speaker 2: credit away from the players. Again, we're lucky to have
Speaker 2: a lot of these guys, but like he went out
Speaker 2: there and built this team from scratch, and really, let's
Speaker 2: be honest, there's not anybody in the portal that ended
Speaker 2: up at Louisville that I feel like, was it like
Speaker 2: the top of everybody's wish list. I mean, Chucky came
Speaker 2: pretty early, but like he wasn't even the most highly
Speaker 2: he sought after guy the transferred out of Wisconsin, that
Speaker 2: was aj Stores who went to Kansas. I think prior
Speaker 2: at the last minute kind of became a because he
Speaker 2: was that stretched forward and they're clearly those guys are
Speaker 2: really valuable now. But let's be honest, like Prior played
Speaker 2: five games and then we lost him, and now Louisville's
Speaker 2: in this position. So I rarely get worked up about
Speaker 2: these kind of awards because you know, you rarely remember, like,
Speaker 2: we don't need the ACC voters to tell us that
Speaker 2: Pat Kelsey did the best job among his peers in
Speaker 2: the ACC this year. But like to me, it would
Speaker 2: be almost a crime to not give it to him,
Speaker 2: because it's so obvious that when it comes to how
Speaker 2: this award has been given out, ninety five percent of
Speaker 2: the time roughly it's gone to a guy who's done
Speaker 2: it the way Kelsey's done it. But really not even
Speaker 2: probably as because again, this is one of the best
Speaker 2: turnarounds you'll ever see in college basketball right now as
Speaker 2: far as the regular season, it just is. And yeah,
Speaker 2: the ACC being and was a factor as well, But
Speaker 2: I don't know, like maybe the ACC if it was
Speaker 2: maybe if the ACC had seven eight tournament teams, Louislle
Speaker 2: would still be in this position. I mean, we'll never know,
Speaker 2: but like roster continuity returning pieces, he's got a team
Speaker 2: that unless they slip up and lay an egg, and really,
Speaker 2: you know, it'd be a I mean, let's be real,
Speaker 2: A loss on Wednesday night or Saturday would be a
Speaker 2: bad loss for Louisville. So I don't expect it to happen.
Speaker 2: Let's hope it doesn't. But they're gonna they're gonna likely
Speaker 2: finish this year twenty five and six overall eighteen and
Speaker 2: two in the ACC, and like, like you can remove
Speaker 2: the last two years from that, right, Like, don't even like,
Speaker 2: if you're gonna think about the ACC Coach of the Year, wark,
Speaker 2: don't even think about where Louisville was prior. Clearly that's
Speaker 2: that's a that's on the minds of a lot of
Speaker 2: people because again, the story itself is I mean, the
Speaker 2: turnaround is crazy. But like, let's just say he inherited
Speaker 2: a team that left because you know, let's say, I
Speaker 2: can't this, This isn't even something you could do hypothetically
Speaker 2: because it just doesn't nobody's brain could compute this. But
Speaker 2: let's just try. Like Kenny Payne left because he was great,
Speaker 2: and everybody left with him, and he went to take
Speaker 2: like an NBA head coaching job, and then Pat Kelsey
Speaker 2: took over and had to build this thing from scratch
Speaker 2: like he did. Even if that were the scenario, it
Speaker 2: would still be super impressive because it's all out of nowhere.
Speaker 2: So again, we'll see for those who missed it, we
Speaker 2: did look it up. The voters are all ACC coaches
Speaker 2: as well as sixty media members who are allowed to
Speaker 2: vote as well, so we'll see how it shakes out.
Speaker 2: I think he'll get it, but just to see yesterday
Speaker 2: some of those who cover programs like Duke and NC
Speaker 2: State and those schools just you know, lobbying for it
Speaker 2: to be Shire and saying that he might not get
Speaker 2: it because of Pat Kelsey, but it should go to
Speaker 2: Shire because look at what he's doing. Again, I can't
Speaker 2: tell you he's not a bad job. But to give
Speaker 2: you an example, Rick Patino, I think he's the best
Speaker 2: coach that's ever existed in college basketball. He's never won
Speaker 2: Coach of the Year in the Big East, he never
Speaker 2: won Coach of the Year in the ACC. He did
Speaker 2: win it in the SEC. But do you know when
Speaker 2: let me look it up here, because I'm pretty sure
Speaker 2: he won it. You know, when he took over and
Speaker 2: they had the what do they call him, the the
Speaker 2: the what was that group of guys called the the Unforgettables.
Speaker 2: I feel like that was the news. Yeah, like he
Speaker 2: won it then because again they were coming off of
Speaker 2: NCAA punishment. Some of their games weren't even on TV.
Speaker 2: He had he had to play a bunch of guys
Speaker 2: from Kentucky who, you know, weren't that highly recruited from
Speaker 2: what I know, I mean, I don't know, it wasn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't follow high school recruiting at that time, back
Speaker 2: in the mid nineties. But like again that sort of yeah,
Speaker 2: that's to me that like he wanted in ninety and
Speaker 2: ninety one, that was because what was he doing. He
Speaker 2: was probably quickly wedded when they didn't expect it to
Speaker 2: happen because of what he inherited. So again, it's it's
Speaker 2: always been a silly award as far as the inconsistencies
Speaker 2: as far as when you get like who it goes to,
Speaker 2: does it go to the ultimate overachiever or just the
Speaker 2: guy who coached the best team because there wasn't a
Speaker 2: big time overachiever, Like there should be two awards. I
Speaker 2: think one that is, you know for a guy that
Speaker 2: you feel like his team is good because of his coaching.
Speaker 2: Even if they're not elite, they're still doing better than
Speaker 2: most would have expected, and his coaching is the biggest factor.
Speaker 2: Or the guy the other award, or just being Okay,
Speaker 2: this team they finished as the number one overall seed
Speaker 2: in the tournament Auburn, Let's give it to Bruce Pearl
Speaker 2: because you know, by default it goes to him because
Speaker 2: his team is the best team in the regular season.
Speaker 2: All right, quick break, We'll come back on the other side.
Speaker 2: Kentucky actually has Senior Night tonight, and they have a
Speaker 2: very similar situation with as Louisville to where a bunch
Speaker 2: of guys who they probably wish they had for more
Speaker 2: than just one year because they've had you know, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I keep saying Kentucky's having a really good
Speaker 2: year because I know they're going to get a three
Speaker 2: or four seed unless something unexpected happens, you know, like
Speaker 2: a lost to Night to LSU. But I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's hardy. Maybe Kentucky fans know that they're in a
Speaker 2: good spot, but maybe they just don't have those vibes
Speaker 2: about having a really good season because I mean, it
Speaker 2: is kind of tricky, right, They have already ten losses.
Speaker 2: If this thing goes when Tonight lost at Missouri on Saturday,
Speaker 2: which is really the expectation as far as ken Palm,
Speaker 2: they'll be underdogs at Missouri, I think. So that means
Speaker 2: they'll finish with a twenty and eleven record like that
Speaker 2: wouldn't necessarily in any other circumstance. I think, feel like
Speaker 2: a really good year for Kentucky. But you're also probably
Speaker 2: gonna get a three or four seed, and least I checked,
Speaker 2: that's pretty good, although for some reason three just feels
Speaker 2: a lot better than four despite it being you know,
Speaker 2: just one seed difference. Anyways, we'll get to a quick break.
Speaker 2: We'll come back on the other side. Keep it rolling along. Here.
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Speaker 2: So apparently this is dude's to the deal falling apart.
Speaker 2: But Bill Belichick will not be a part of Hard
Speaker 2: Knocks in his debut season in North Carolina like it
Speaker 2: was initially reported last week. So again, apparently the deal
Speaker 2: fell through. I'm sure the deal fell through because somebody
Speaker 2: just started to use their brain and realized, yeah, this
Speaker 2: is certainly a big story. Really still doesn't seem real.
Speaker 2: The Belichick is going to be coaching in college football
Speaker 2: at ninety something years old, while he also has a
Speaker 2: girlfriend that's young enough to be his granddaughter. He's not
Speaker 2: ninety something, but you know what I mean, it's an
Speaker 2: exaggeration for effect, but close. But for what this show is.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just don't see a whole lot of
Speaker 2: compelling and entertaining content coming from this store, from this
Speaker 2: show if they feature them. I mean, again, it is wild.
Speaker 2: But for this to work, you need characters. You need
Speaker 2: somebody with some charisma, somebody that you know would be interesting.
Speaker 2: He's the least interesting person that I can think of
Speaker 2: when it comes to like NFL coaches. I mean, he's
Speaker 2: a he's a I mean, he's a no name because
Speaker 2: he's a legend when it comes to all that he's accomplished.
Speaker 2: But like that's all you know is that he's he's
Speaker 2: an old crotchety you know, grumpy dude who now you know,
Speaker 2: has just shown us that he's a lot. We talked
Speaker 2: about this a lot last week because I still just
Speaker 2: you know, it sounds crazy because again, like we're gonna
Speaker 2: get it behind the scenes. Look at Bill Belichick coaching
Speaker 2: college football. Awesome. Still doesn't seem real, but it is real,
Speaker 2: and we're gonna get to see, you know, how it
Speaker 2: all comes together. And I'm just thinking, like, yeah, you're
Speaker 2: gonna be underwhelmed because this is television. This is you
Speaker 2: know you need, even if it's documentary type content, which
Speaker 2: is what this is, by the way, big difference in
Speaker 2: reality show and docuseries. But when it comes to docuseries,
Speaker 2: like you still have to have somebody that is that
Speaker 2: is in charge of being the storyteller and knowing what
Speaker 2: things to really emphasize and focus on when filming to
Speaker 2: put the show together, because at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: it's still a show. And I just think maybe it
Speaker 2: was due to the finances, but I also wouldn't be
Speaker 2: surprised if they realized, you know what, maybe we should
Speaker 2: go back to the board and put something else together,
Speaker 2: because I mean Belichick, I just mean to me, he'd
Speaker 2: be one of the most boring guys to ever get
Speaker 2: a behind the scenes look at, even if it is
Speaker 2: like interesting because it's a new thing for him. I
Speaker 2: think you could probably do a twenty minute feature rather
Speaker 2: than an entire Hard Knocks series that, of course, you know,
Speaker 2: is really really really popular. All right, So just an
Speaker 2: update on the spreads. Tonight. In the college basketball matchups
Speaker 2: that I know, I'm gonna be watching Kentucky, they tip
Speaker 2: at seven twelve and a half over LSU, which I
Speaker 2: mean that seems to be like a I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't bet on Kentucky, but if I had to, like,
Speaker 2: you know, hey, you need to. You got to make
Speaker 2: a bet and it's going to help, you know, pay
Speaker 2: the bills, I would I would lean Kentucky to cover
Speaker 2: because they are at home and LSU is you know,
Speaker 2: the SEC doesn't have many terrible teams, and I'm not
Speaker 2: here to say LSU's terrible, but clearly they're not very good, right,
Speaker 2: I mean they have Let's see, don't they have that
Speaker 2: one random win against Florida? Yes, they do, yees, so
Speaker 2: they beat did they? No? They didn't. Their only wins
Speaker 2: against who was it to beat Florida? That was a
Speaker 2: real surprise because it wasn't them. They beat Oklahoma, South
Speaker 2: Carolina and Arkansas, the three worst teams in the tournament
Speaker 2: or in the SEC. Was it Arkansas that beat Florida,
Speaker 2: who was it? Missouri got them and that was before
Speaker 2: we knew Missouri was good. And then also Georgia got
Speaker 2: him recently, which was a big win for Georgia. So yeah, look,
Speaker 2: Kentucky from what you could see because the game was
Speaker 2: only on television for what about sixty five seventy percent
Speaker 2: of it, I mean, they didn't look good, but I
Speaker 2: think Auburn was a bitiger factor in that than anything
Speaker 2: else in this LSU team. When you're fourteen and fifteen,
Speaker 2: you're like one of two teams that's for sure not
Speaker 2: going to the tournament. I really don't know how, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I could see Kentucky hitting a couple threes
Speaker 2: early and then this team just rolling over, which, by
Speaker 2: the way, is LSU going to open up. Matt McMahon
Speaker 2: is in his third year. He went fourteen and nineteen
Speaker 2: in his first season, seventeen and sixteen, last year, fourteen
Speaker 2: and fifteen. This year, like, I mean, I this day,
Speaker 2: this day and age, like I feel like three years
Speaker 2: is really all because again, you don't need a long
Speaker 2: time to get it rolling again. Like if a coach
Speaker 2: was currently like put it this way, if if you
Speaker 2: are let's say they do get rid of Matt McMahon
Speaker 2: or Matt McMahon. I don't know how you say it,
Speaker 2: but he was at Murray State for a while, by
Speaker 2: the way, but he let's say this was his fourth
Speaker 2: year and it's same results, like just below five hundred,
Speaker 2: and he was, you know, and he gets fired. If
Speaker 2: you're interviewing coaches and you're the athletic director at LSU,
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear about, like how long it's
Speaker 2: gonna take you now. To expect you to be like
Speaker 2: elite right out of the gate would be it would
Speaker 2: be unfair. But like this whole give me time to
Speaker 2: establish my culture and my let me give me some
Speaker 2: time to get my guys in. Gosh, that used to
Speaker 2: be said so often about coaches that weren't great early on.
Speaker 2: Got to give some time to get his guys in.
Speaker 2: Let me get my guys in. Well, you got you
Speaker 2: gotta every year you can bring in as many guys
Speaker 2: as you want and they don't have to be freshman
Speaker 2: that you got to build up and develop. So you know,
Speaker 2: I really wouldn't be shocked if a lot of schools
Speaker 2: depending upon the buyout, right, Like that's a big factor.
Speaker 2: But again, like if you're in the if you're in
Speaker 2: the SEC and you care about basketball, you've got enough
Speaker 2: money to wear, a buyout's probably not a big deal
Speaker 2: for you. I mean, unless you got something that cal
Speaker 2: Perry had to where like it had to work out
Speaker 2: the way it did because they weren't going to be
Speaker 2: able to pay to fire him, so he had to
Speaker 2: leave and find a new job, which is what he did.
Speaker 2: But yeah, LSU, like I mean, and this is what
Speaker 2: I wanted to get you next, is the most recent
Speaker 2: bracketology that's out there, because I mean, is the SEC
Speaker 2: gonna get every team in their league in outside of three?
Speaker 2: I mean Oklahoma, LSU in South Carolina certainly looks like
Speaker 2: they're not gonna make it, But Texas are they still
Speaker 2: are they still flirting with it because Lenardi still I mean,
Speaker 2: and by the way, I don't I I think it's
Speaker 2: insanity that Arkansas is even remotely like being considered for
Speaker 2: the tournament. And yet right now, depending on where you look,
Speaker 2: like there's a bracketology I'm looking at right now from
Speaker 2: Jerry Palm, I mean, he doesn't even have Arkansas. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're one of the last four end they're the but
Speaker 2: they're not. I mean, like Arkansas's resume is absolute trash.
Speaker 2: They do have the big win at Kentucky, which again
Speaker 2: that's a monster win, but like that's an outlier. Like
Speaker 2: Arkansas right now, like let's look at their resume because
Speaker 2: this should tell you and I think most people already
Speaker 2: know this. We don't need to expand the tournament. Arkansas's
Speaker 2: net is forty seven. Arkansas is four and nine in
Speaker 2: Quad one games and they have a losing record as well.
Speaker 2: In Quad two games, they're two and three. I mean,
Speaker 2: and by the way, their Quad one wins or what
Speaker 2: Michigan on a neutral court and Kentucky of course, and
Speaker 2: then other than that, I mean, it's probably a road
Speaker 2: win against a not very good s SEC team that
Speaker 2: happens to be in the top seventy five. So with
Speaker 2: the bubble being and by the way, the bubble's bad.
Speaker 2: If you look at all the teams that are either
Speaker 2: in but barely or almost in, like you can make
Speaker 2: the case none of these teams deserve it. But you
Speaker 2: know what, you got to put sixty eight teams in.
Speaker 2: I mean, Baylor right now, Baylor is sitting as one
Speaker 2: of the last four in. Baylor is nine and nine
Speaker 2: in their conference, seventeen and twelve overall, and you know,
Speaker 2: when it comes to wins, they have the you know,
Speaker 2: are valuable. I mean, I guess it's the double overtime
Speaker 2: win against Saint John's on a neutral court. Other than that,
Speaker 2: we're talking about wins against I mean, they did beat Kansas,
Speaker 2: but that Kansas win doesn't mean now what it used to.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not kidding you like this, like they
Speaker 2: don't need to. I mean, they're going to expand it
Speaker 2: because it'll make more money and it's already at sixty eight,
Speaker 2: so like they're not I mean, they have to put
Speaker 2: sixty eight in as we speak. But man like of
Speaker 2: all the years to like reward a lower conference team
Speaker 2: that has a way better record, like they maybe they
Speaker 2: would have a much better resume if they had the
Speaker 2: end like if you've got endless opportunities. And that's one
Speaker 2: thing I'm not being anti SEC here because again I
Speaker 2: can't deny that the league is the best league in
Speaker 2: the country, and I don't even think it's particularly close.
Speaker 2: Like when you look at the SEC right now. We
Speaker 2: talked about this the other day. There are tiers. They
Speaker 2: have the elite tier, which these teams are all going
Speaker 2: to get one seats. Auburn, Florida and Alabama. Tennessee might
Speaker 2: get a one seed, probably not, but maybe a two.
Speaker 2: Like where where where does he?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So right now Jerry Palm has Auburn Tennessee and yeah,
Speaker 2: he only has those two as one seats. He has
Speaker 2: Houston as a one, which I guess that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Duke is the other one. But on the two line,
Speaker 2: you've got Florida and Alabama. It's like that's the elite
Speaker 2: of the conference. And then after that you've got a
Speaker 2: different tier and that that features the likes of Missouri,
Speaker 2: Kentucky and I guess A and M and Ole Miss.
Speaker 2: But those teams, I mean, I don't again, I think
Speaker 2: A and M and Old Miss. The teams that are
Speaker 2: ben like they're twenty A and M and Ole Miss
Speaker 2: are twenty and nine and nine and seven. They're clearly
Speaker 2: getting endless Quad one opportunities. Therefore their numbers are great.
Speaker 2: But like A and M, I don't know if they
Speaker 2: have anything like in the non conference that's crazy impressive.
Speaker 2: I guess they do. A and M did beat Texas Tech,
Speaker 2: which is a valuable win, but like they they ended
Speaker 2: up getting stacking their SEC wins against the teams that
Speaker 2: you know aren't very good. They did beat Missouri, and
Speaker 2: again that has value. Now but like A and M
Speaker 2: right now is nine and seven in the SEC, and
Speaker 2: their wins are against Texas, Oklahoma, LSU, Oklahoma again, South Carolina, Georgia,
Speaker 2: and Arkansas. So seven of their nine are against teams
Speaker 2: that like that doesn't really to me. I mean again
Speaker 2: the number is a quad one, but like that doesn't
Speaker 2: really do much. And then I guess technically to get
Speaker 2: you know, the other two that have value. They do
Speaker 2: have the win against Ole miss and they have the
Speaker 2: win against Missouri, which again has value. So I'm not
Speaker 2: saying these teams like shouldn't be in the tournament, but
Speaker 2: like you could seed A and M it like a
Speaker 2: seven or an eight, and I wouldn't have an issue
Speaker 2: with it. So the teams that are that are that
Speaker 2: are you know, bubbleish, but probably in that's when you
Speaker 2: get to Mississippi State, Van Dy and then I guess
Speaker 2: Georgia and Arkansas. And what hurts some of these teams
Speaker 2: is that like in previous years, it shouldn't it shouldn't matter,
Speaker 2: but it does. Like the Mountain West at times has
Speaker 2: gotten more teams in because they were given I guess,
Speaker 2: you know, the benefit of the doubt. But the Mountain
Speaker 2: West never wins when they get to the tournament. San
Speaker 2: Diego State made it all the way to the title game,
Speaker 2: but other than that, you've had the Boise's get in.
Speaker 2: Colorado States had had some good seasons where they look
Speaker 2: like a dangerous team Nevada, but like they never do anything.
Speaker 2: And I think unfortunately, even though those teams, you know,
Speaker 2: this current group that has nothing to do with them
Speaker 2: will probably be, you know, be held accountable for it.
Speaker 2: All right, So real quick, the uh this bracketology is
Speaker 2: one I wanted to take a look at because it's
Speaker 2: it's it's not only a legitimate update, a recent update,
Speaker 2: but it also has a simulation features. So Evanmaia dot
Speaker 2: com has bracket sims included in his website, and he
Speaker 2: has Louisville getting in as a seven seed against ten
Speaker 2: seeds San Diego State, and he simulated the entire tournament.
Speaker 2: And he has Auburn losing the Texas Tech in the
Speaker 2: national championship game. His final four is Auburn Houston, Iowa
Speaker 2: stayed in Texas Tech. But he has Louisville going to
Speaker 2: the Sweet sixteen beating Tennessee as a two seed. And again,
Speaker 2: this is a simulation from you know, his formula. I
Speaker 2: don't know how many times he does it, but basically
Speaker 2: the same thing. You know, if you go to your
Speaker 2: video game and simulated.
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 2: So it doesn't mean anything. But if Lowell makes a
Speaker 2: Sweet sixteen, I mean, I hope they go further than that,
Speaker 2: but that's kind of where I'm at. I think getting
Speaker 2: there is gonna be gonna be tough. I think they can.
Speaker 2: I think it's a realistic goal. If they don't get there,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say it was a failed season. Wrong
Speaker 2: wrong music, who stuck another segment?
Speaker 1: Duh?
Speaker 3: I knew that.
Speaker 2: And then Kentucky he's got them as a as a
Speaker 2: three seed and they lose to Kansas in the second
Speaker 2: round as a sixth seed because Kansas, Yeah, that would
Speaker 2: be see that, That's that would be tricky. Like whoever
Speaker 2: gets Kansas or a Yukon Kansas is a six or
Speaker 2: like Yukon is an eight. I mean, there's been enough
Speaker 2: proof this year those teams are not what they typically are,
Speaker 2: and they're clearly beatable because it's happening. But I also
Speaker 2: wouldn't want to I wouldn't want to be in the
Speaker 2: second round seeing a six seed Bill self or an
Speaker 2: eight seed Dan Hurley. All right, quick break, will come
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Speaker 3: I haven't really looked at my sheets yet, but I
Speaker 3: do have ten dollars in the DraftKings account.
Speaker 2: I am going to go with South Carolina money line
Speaker 2: over Georgia. Okay, and I think that I think that
Speaker 2: I think that puts Georgia on the outside looking in
Speaker 2: of the tournament. South Carolina's got some momentum. They did
Speaker 2: beat cal in Arkansas on Saturday, and I just think
Speaker 2: they're gonna be able to ride some momentum. And George's
Speaker 2: only favored by one, So I'm gonna go ahead and take
Speaker 2: South Carolina money line. Yeah. I also I also like
Speaker 2: like Carolina minus eight and a half. I just think
Speaker 2: that they're they are playing better basketball. And Virginia Tech,
Speaker 2: I mean, Louisville nearly lost to him and that was
Speaker 2: not good. That was yikes. But also like I watch
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech and they're not good. Uh, And then I
Speaker 2: don't know, I kind of feel like fading Miami against
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech because it's Miami plus nine and a half
Speaker 2: and I feel like taking my or taking Georgia Tech
Speaker 2: minus nine and a half because Miami is basically dead already.
Speaker 2: But you know, that's a lot of points. That's a
Speaker 2: lot of points.
Speaker 3: Yeah for a bad team to cover, Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 3: Nine is a lot.
Speaker 2: But do you have any thoughts? Real quick? I got
Speaker 2: to get it Indiana, Oregon. It's Oregon minus six and
Speaker 2: a half. This game is in on the West coast.
Speaker 2: I kind of like Oregon to cover here most teams,
Speaker 2: most teams would go west. Seven it's six and a half.
Speaker 2: Most teams who go west haven't done well.
Speaker 3: Give me Oregon minus seven and a half. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I like it all right, because that's a long trip.
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