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Speaker 3: And he used to have a little player profile.
Speaker 2: I want to get to know the six foot eight,
three hundred and fifteen pound right tackle out of Littleton,
Colorado via Michigan won a national championship there. Parents are
Todd and Susie Janry. Father played basketball BYU and brother
Jt played offensive line at BYU. He served a mission
for the church as he describes some Lay Saints in
orem Utah Spanish speaking, though he ab La Espanol prior
to BYU. Though he appeared in twenty six contests across
the offensive line and on special teams. With two career
starts at Michigan, He's a two time academic All Big
Ten honoree. Started started at right or started at tackle
against Illinois Michigan State in twenty twenty four before having
an injury at Loz Frank injury at Lose Franc injury,
and that that ended his season in two thousand and
twenty four, and he entered the transfer portal and now
he's bawling for Brigham at right. Dack least do at
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Speaker 3: All right, let's get into it.
Speaker 2: Andrew gentsry what we're impressions of the Rivalry game.
Speaker 4: It was awesome, such a fun environment. I mean, shout
out to Cougarnations for showing up and showing out at
Lavel Edward Stadium. I mean, just such a fun environment
to being into playing that game. But you know, honestly,
it was a great game. Utah is a phenomenal team.
They're gonna do a lot of really great things the
rest of the year. But for us, you know, it's
just another step in the right direction that we want
to go.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: That's not our final destination is beating Utah, and we
got a lot more work to do, so we're working hard,
and we're really excited for Iowa State now this week
because they're a phenomenal team as well. That's doen a
lot of really really good things historically done a lot
of great things this year, and so we're just really
excited to move on to this game. But man, such
a fun environment, such a fun win on Saturday, and
just looking forward to the future.
Speaker 3: Now, was this just a bigger game?
Speaker 2: It's just a bigger game for the donors, the fans,
you know, the media than it is for the internal
team and coaching staff.
Speaker 3: Do you think what do you think? Ap?
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's necessarily bigger, but I think
that donors and fans get to celebrate it longer, and
so I think it's a bit. I think it's actually
probably a bigger deal in that sense that like it
opens up donors pockets. Rivalry wins, make no doubt about it.
Rivalry wins open up donor pockets, and so it's it's
very important in that way. But I think I think
the players are absolutely just up for that. Like just
listen to Tanner Wallace post game where he's taken shots
at Kyle Whittingham, He's taken shots at Utah in general.
It wasn't quite max All level, but he's saying, you know,
if I if that coach is half as competitive as
I am, I'm not retiring. I'm three and zero against
the Utes. It meant something to the players, but it's
a big deal for the for the donors because it's
going to open up.
Speaker 3: It's going to bring more cash into the program, more donors.
Speaker 2: Jumping in and saying I want to be a part
of the winning ways of Brigham. Now, Andrew, how did
that rivalry compare to Michigan Ohio State.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, I the cool thing is
here at BUYU, and I think coach Tataki does a
great job of it. He teaches the love and learn
right and you can tell the love that he has
for coach winning him and the staff over there. I mean,
it's cool to look at the crossover right of all
the coaches over there between you know, coach Beck, coach Hotauaya,
all those guys that are BYU guys, and then here
you know coach Hill Utah. Guy A Rod was at
Utah for a little bit, so a lot of crossover.
Even coach Hockey Utah, so a lot of crossover. There's
a lot of love between the two programs and the
coaching staffs, and Klon preaches that whereas you know, Michigan
Ohio State there's there's a lot of hatred and nothing
against that or I think there's different flavors for different rivalries.
But I really like the way that coach Tat Hockey
approached that rivalry. And I thought that we learned a
lot from I learned a lot from him Ferson on
how to approach rivalry game, especially in the middle of
the season, right when you have a lot more teams
to play. Felt like it was a really good learning
experience for me.
Speaker 2: Learning and loving that's what Kalani teaches. A little love
and learn and stay in humble, staying hungry, having respect
for your foes, your opponents.
Speaker 3: He's doing it the right way, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: Now, Andrew, how do you feel like you and Isaiah
Jada played against that Utah defensive line?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's always room for improvement, right, I
made some mistakes that game pass rushing against Logan Fano.
He's a great player. John Henry Daily's a great player
as well. So credit to those guys. They got a
great defense. They're coach well and there they've done great things,
will continue to do great things. But overall, felt happy
with our performance that we did a good job, but
a lot of room for improvement. Really excited for this
week to improve and to get better and to work
from there.
Speaker 2: The mutual respect that I'm sure these guys have for
each other. Logan Fano, John Henry Daily both great defensive
line and former Cougar's. I always say, once a Cougar,
always a Cougar, even if they're dressed in Utah apparel. Now,
but Andrew Gentry and Isaiah Jada both I think played well,
and it's hard to be perfect in these games. It's
hard to be perfect against two future NFL defensive vents.
Both of them are, both of them are dynamic and
very productive at the collegiate level. Obviously, John Henry is
elite in pass rushing situations. He's big and strongly fast,
and he's getting more bend. That dude may just need
to take his talents to the NFL after this year,
I think is he is. He tied for the lead
in sacks I think college football right now at nine
I think he is. And it's not like he's gone
against ho home competition. He's gone gone up against a
good competition. He may be leaving after this year. I
would not mind.
Speaker 5: I don't selfishly I don't want to see, boy, you
played John Henry Daily and have him get another shot
at a BYU quarterback, because there are some defensive ends
that will get there, get there fast and sack you.
But John Henry Daily will do everything he can to
put as much force as humanly possible into the quarterback.
He hits as hard as possible. He does not care
about the welfare of the quarterback there. It's not just
about getting a sack. It's about hitting him hard, making
him hurt while he gets a sack.
Speaker 3: Let's move on to the next question.
Speaker 2: Andrew Gentry, what do you see from this Ioways State
defense in your scouting report?
Speaker 4: I mean, they're a disciplined, well coach defense, right. I
think you're always going to get that from a really
good team in the Big twelve. And so this week,
I think we're going to be physical. That's what we
want to do every week. We want to be really physical.
We're always going to try to establish the run game
right with we have great running backs, but also throw
the ball as well and protect bear. So I think
the biggest thing for us is just finding ways to
continue to be disciplined.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: We've had a great years an offensive line, but finding
ways to continue to get better, right, We're finding those
little details, and so I think that's the goal this week,
is to find the details and the little things we
can get better at and then get better that way.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 2: There's Andrew Gentry discussing the Iowa State Cyclones defense. They
pose a similar challenge, I think, but you're you're looking
at more like a thirty front here with big, strong
defensive lineman, a little bit more hefty. Gonna have to
move them a little bit more, some of those combo blocks.
What is this Iowish State defense? Good at, Andrew?
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're physical, they're big guys. You know, this is
a little bit of a different defense than we've seen
all year. You know, they're not gonna bring as much
of a pass rush, right, in terms of blitzing a
lot of guys, it's a lot of rush three. So
we're gonna have to be really discipline and they're bigger
defensive ends, right, some some bigger guys than we faced
all year. So for us, it's gonna be something where
we're really gonna have to be good in the run game,
make sure that we're stout because those guys are really stout.
So that's the big thing for us is being stout,
making sure we're on the right page, communicating well, and
making sure we're on the right guys.
Speaker 3: All game.
Speaker 2: Gotta be assignment sound, gotta have technical soundness as well
when you're going to get going up against these these
hosses of the Midwest in ames Iowa, I always stay
poses a different challenge similar like in physicality, I think
just a little bit different because of the the two
gapping nature of this. I always state defense, they're not
looking to penetrate as much as they are looking to
eat up blockers. Okay, so this may be a little
bit different. I don't know how many thirty fronts that
this offensive line is faced thus far the season. None
of them probably as good or as effective as this
defensive front.
Speaker 5: Yeah, does does the rush three open things up for
LJ or do you think their linebackers will be able
to kind of come down and stuff the run?
Speaker 3: Is their focus? Well, this is the thing.
Speaker 2: So like with a thirty front, you eat up two blockers, right,
so if they're big, they're strong, then then your your
combo blocks may not be as effective.
Speaker 3: And to the second level with.
Speaker 2: A thirty front, you typically have some very dynamic linebackers.
That's why you're running the thirty front. Because you have
four dynamic linebackers. They're a little bit more spelt. They
typically don't have as much weight on them. You know,
you may get a two hundred twenty two hundred twenty
five pound linebacker across the board with a three four defense.
There they can run sideline. The sideline, they can make
plays for you. And so my biggest question is, after
you combo and you get to the second level, right.
Speaker 3: B, why you're shown A.
Speaker 2: This offensive line has shown an ability to be balanced,
come to balance, and eat up second level defenders without
missing right, without missing those blocks.
Speaker 3: They've been very good at that.
Speaker 2: Are these linebackers more dynamic than what they've seen thus far?
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe not.
Speaker 2: If they're a little bit lighter, a little bit more athletic,
then you could have problems with those second level blocks.
Some of these smaller linebackers dip under blocks a little
bit better, and they kind of pierce through the h
the potential arms, you know, the envelopment of those offensive
linemen as they pursue second level blocks, right.
Speaker 5: And so for me, I think it's gonna I've said
this a lot today. B way, he's got to eat
up Iowa State secondary. I think you need to come
out throwing the ball similar to the way that you
did against West Virginia, where you just you throw it
over the top a few times and lighten things up
so that LJ maybe has some room to run.
Speaker 3: I would love to see it.
Speaker 2: I would love to see, you know, like from a
statistical standpoint, you know, we've been kind of reviewing different
elements of this Ioway State team and getting into the numbers. Obviously,
we want to focus on BYU what they do well,
but we're also getting a little scattering report on Iowa
State and looking at what they do well.
Speaker 3: Right now.
Speaker 2: Ioway State their offense ranks low in red zone scoring.
By the way, I know we're talking more about the
Iowa State defense here, but I is use nine empty
red zone trips. Three came on game ending kneel downs
and another came at a game end with the ball
on an opponent one yard line. That leaves five red
zone misses t i t's fumble field goal miss downs.
You know, Bay's been pretty good in the red zone defense,
but it will see kind of how Iowa State manages
their red zone opportunities. A couple other things here, as
it pertains to Iowa State statistics BYU's Colasstoke and Iowa
States Matt Campbell have each coached one hundred and twenty
two games for their respective schools.
Speaker 3: That's kind of interesting.
Speaker 2: Stake is seventy nine to forty three and Campbell not
too far behind at sixty nine in fifty three. So
when I say they're they're similar in culture, they've also
been similar in wins. Okay, this is a good Iowa
State team, so don't get it twisted. They have lost
some some key players on the back end, but there
there were a good defense. A couple other things here,
Nets point, net points per drive bau's twentieth is u's
fifty first, net available yard percentage BAS eighteenth is US
forty fifth, net yards per play b y U twenty eighth,
I s U fifty eight, and then net drive success
rate b y U eight.
Speaker 3: Is SU forty ninth.
Speaker 2: So uh b YU at Iowa State projections and opponent
adjusted stats. This is from bc Framar and BCF toys
dot Com. B YU has a fifty five point five
percent win probability per this particular metric UH their defensive
efficiency Iowa States defense efficiency thirtieth in the in the
country per BCF. All right, let's get back to the sound.
Has the last meeting with Iowa State been a talking
point at all so far this week?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean, like you mentioned, I wasn't here at
that point, but I know that from what Coach woodsism
here that it's a completely different offensive line than we
were two years ago schematically. But also I think the
most important thing is just in terms of our mentality
as well, being tough and being disciplined, and so going
into this game, you know, we're going to make sure
that we establish ourselves that we're physical and that we're
going to come in with the right mentality of dominating
our opponent. Right, not to say that they're not a
great team, because they are a really good team, but
that's the mentality that we want to have every week,
is being the more physical opponent and making sure that
the game is won in the trenches. And so that's
what we take a lot of pride, and we're really
excited to do that this weekend.
Speaker 3: Got to win in the trench warfare game. No doubt
about it.
Speaker 2: Andrew Gentry, speaking from experience, How does the body feel
right now?
Speaker 3: Though, Andrew, you've been through.
Speaker 2: Seven games now, tough foes.
Speaker 3: How's the body feeling good?
Speaker 4: I mean, right week eight of the season, It's never
going to feel one hundred percent, But for where we're at,
I feel phenomenal. I feel really good be where we're at.
Excited to keep playing, excited to keep getting reps and
to keep getting better. But really last and really grateful
that I'm healthy now at this point of the year.
Wasn't so healthy at Michigan, and so really grateful that
I'm healthy this year, and just continue to get thanks
every day to God that we're healthy and get another
chance to play football, because you never know when that's
going to be taken away. So really grateful with how
the body feels right now.
Speaker 2: Got to stay healthy and the strong, nourish and strengthen
that body, especially if you're trying to win another national
championship like you did at Michigan. What do you take
from that experience, Andrew Gentry that you could apply to
this upcoming tough stretch of games.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, like I mentioned earlier, is the biggest
thing is you can't just treat the game the last
game you played as the end, all right. And I
think it's tough to do that against a team like Utah,
right where it's your rivals, a really good team, a
ranked opponent, a really emotional, really physical game, and so
it's easy to fall into the trap of oh wow,
like that was good and you can kind of take
a step back. But you can't do that at all, right,
you have to keep winning. And so I look back
at that national championship yere. You know, you beat Ohio State.
We're both undefeated at that time. I believe they were
number one in the country, were number two when we
played that game, number three, right, so both top four
teams at the time, And so you go into that
game and it's really easy to fall into that trap.
But then you have to go play the Big twelve
or Big ten championship rather that year at that time.
And so for me, that's just what I learned from Coatarawa.
But he instilled really well his his things. He had
what he called on a roll. When he won six games,
you're on a roll. When you won eight games, you're
on a rampage. And when you won twelve in a row.
You were just playing phenomenal. Right, So that's the big
thing that I take with it, right, is you're not
ever settling with where you're at. Then we have bigger
goals of of you know, not just being seven and oh,
but being twelve and oh in the regular season.
Speaker 2: There's a bigger fish to fry. I on the prize.
The Utah game wasn't the end all be all. We
got bigger goals, we got a bigger mission. We got
to move on onward and upward onto Iowa State, onto Ames.
Iowa we go, and you're gonna face a violent team,
says a Rod.
Speaker 3: And you got to be the more physical team in Ames.
Speaker 2: This be I don't know if it's the toughest test
up to this point, but being on the road in Ames,
you gotta remember when you're seven and zero, this is
the difference.
Speaker 3: You have the target on your back.
Speaker 2: Ioway Staate is trying to save their season, their quest.
Speaker 3: To make it to the Big twelve Championship.
Speaker 2: Look at what ASU did to Texas Tech on the
road in their home. Look they had lost to Utah.
They got demolished versus Utah. You know on Utah's home field.
Rice Echls and Utah was filmed pretty good about themselves
heading into Lavelle Edwards Stadium. Film pretty good even though
they didn't face Sam Levin.
Speaker 3: Right, but.
Speaker 2: Iowa status of the mindset that there's gonna be college
football cannibalism in the Big Twelve because there's so much parody,
and they can turn the tide for their for their
season this week by knocking off essentially a Tip ten
team in college football and would put them back on
the right track after two consecutive very close and competitive losses.
Speaker 6: I just have a hard time seeing them lose three
straight and isolating, isolating the fact that we're talking about BYU.
If you're just looking at i Aloways stay in a bubble,
you say, as a college football fan, there's no way
Matt Campbell lets this team lose three straight, especially not
when this third one is at home. The other factor
that we haven't really discussed that I don't know what
it will do, but I hope that it does something.
I wonder you look at the guys who are the
head coaches in waiting for the Florida job, for the
Penn State job. We know Matt Rule is probably going
to be the number one candidate for Penn State. And
we know that they called Marcus Freeman Florida did, and
Marcus Freeman wasn't interested.
Speaker 3: I wonder how many calls Matt Campbell's get right.
Speaker 6: Now, because Matt Campbell in terms of best coaches in
college football who are maybe not at their premiere program,
maybe not at an A level program, even though I
think I would say it probably is as close to
that brand as you possibly can get without actually being
in that group. Like I don't think, oh, missus losing
Lane Kiffin, because that, to me is a top program.
Speaker 3: That's where you want to be. I wonder if.
Speaker 6: Matt Campbell is getting clse right now about the Penn
State job and about the Florida job, And I do
wonder if that could play some cause some disillusionment and
distraction in terms of focus this week.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, I think Matt Campbell wants to
be at I always stay for a long time. But
if there's any any university that you thought had a
same similar culture approach to college football that it would
be a step up, I think it's Penn State.
Speaker 3: Like they think, you know what I mean, Like yep.
Speaker 2: At the same time, you're like, wait, maybe that's changed
up there and I wouldn't be as valued.
Speaker 3: Look at what James frank Look at the James Frankler.
Speaker 2: So like, I may just want to stick it out
here like Kyle Whittingham did at Utah when certain teams
came knocking, like and Kloni Satake's stuck it out with BYU.
Now look at what he's created, their continuity, cohesion, chemistry culture.
Speaker 3: You can continue to.
Speaker 2: Build off of the foundation and you receive gratitude from
the fan base and it's you have a longer leash
because of the legacy of your building, or you go
and take the money.
Speaker 3: I think Matt Campbell's smarter than taking the money.
Speaker 2: I think he's going to stick it out at Iowa State,
and I want My biggest question is actually Signetti if
he's going to stay loyal to Indiana. Who gave him
his first P five chance.
Speaker 6: They just signed him to a big, big extension, right
Who knows?
Speaker 2: Google me? All I do is win. Uh the last
Coach Woods? How has Coach Woods helped you develop since
you arrived here?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Coach has been great. You know for me, He's
done a really good job of teaching me a higher
level football. I feel like nothing against coaches at Michigan
or anything I learned there, but I think I lacked
a lot of football knowledge. I think I also lacked
a lot of technical discipline right in the way that
I played the game with my technique. And I feel
like coach Woods has done a really good job of
not letting that slide here, of continuing to hold me
to a high standard of getting better in pass profession,
getting better in the run game. And I'm really grateful
for that and really grateful for the way that he's
taught me and the standard that he's helped me to.
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the BYU rivalry game has had its fair share of controversies.
On and off the football field, okay. And one that
I think BYU fans have grown sensitive to is the
mocking of their faith or the perceived mocking of their faith. Okay,
So they've grown sensitive to it, and it has become
a controversial topic amongst by fans because they always feel
like that Utah, you.
Speaker 3: Know, it is.
Speaker 2: Not necessarily as an institution, but their football program and
the culture there, it breeds a certain amount of mockery
towards their faith. And you know what, there's probably been
times where there has been a mockery of the faith,
like and we've had an instant recently, an instance recently
where we once again thought it was a bit of
a mockery or a shunning or or maybe of a
middle finger to the faith of those that represent BYU
and the sponsoring institution. So let me give you a
few examples of this. I want to say, in twenty
twelve or so, there were Utah football players in the
cold tub mimicking a baptismal font and baptism of potential
Latterday Saint members, right, And it was a mockery and
it went on to social media and it was reported
on it was publicized et cetera. I think it was
Bleak and another player, right, anyway, that happened. That was
a bit of a controversy. I want to say about
three or four years ago, there was a recruiting trip
of Utah football players that laid their hands on another
player in act of a like some sort of a
priesthood blessing.
Speaker 3: And it.
Speaker 2: Was publicized by the university too, because it was like
there it was their photo shoot, right, and so the
players ended up publicizing it and it was out for
the media and anybody else on social media to consume it.
Speaker 3: Okay, So that happened.
Speaker 2: Then in this rivalry game, they're saying the opening prayer
and the kicker, Dylan Curtis is kicking and continuing to practice. Now,
I said on our show, I was like, look, there's
a lot of kids out there that just have air
pods in. He may not have heard it, right, He's
a public figure in a public space and he's kicking
and they're saying the prayer. Is it a spiritual moment
in a temporal setting?
Speaker 3: A little bit?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean you're saying a prayer, right, Is it
that big of a deal in the grants giving saying no,
should we be self righteous pricks? And Ramy Umpton Mormons say, look,
this kid is a horrible person for kicking during our prayer.
Their parents failed and he's not a good person. No,
of course not. More often than not, it's an honest mistake,
or it's just negligence and just not understanding, not reading.
Speaker 3: The room ultimately.
Speaker 2: And it looks like that may be the case with
Dylan Curtis, Utah. Kicker from the state of Utah, by
the way, comes from what I understand an LDS family.
I don't know if he's active, I don't know if
he engages in the faith at all, but he put
out on social media today. He says, I've been debating
for a few days whether I make a comment on
me kicking during the prayer, and at first I decided
just to let it blow over, but I realized that
it isn't the right thing to do.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to.
Speaker 2: Apologize to anyone that I offended. I really didn't mean
anything negative by it, and especially didn't have harsh intentions.
I was just warming up when my coaches told me
to warm up. So what some bau fans have stated
is like, well, why did the coaching staff tell him
to warm up during the prayer. And this, although he
doesn't say like I didn't know that the a prayer
was going on, I think he understood that there was
a prayer going on.
Speaker 3: Like I think it's really folly.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, like you said, he could enterprisent, but
he's not saying I didn't know that.
Speaker 3: There was a prayer going on.
Speaker 6: I doubt he was wearing AirPods in his helmet, but
you know what I mean, Like, I think he knew
that there was a pro going on, but his coaches
told him, hey, go warm up, get your kicks in,
and it was during the prayer, so he did it.
Speaker 2: He didn't have any harsh intentions. He wasn't giving the
middle finger to the faith.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 2: It was just a nineteen year old going out and
doing what the coach was telling me. So you could
probably put more so on the blame maybe on the individuals,
the adults in the room typically in these situations, not
on the young player that was just out there warming up,
doing his job. And you know, a moment if in
his life went viral and look I propore it on
and I said, hey, this is interesting. Uh you know
they're kicking off during a prayer. He's practicing during a prayer,
and in the individuals that were filming it that it
was sent to me anonymously, like they were kind of
laughing about it because like, oh, it's kind of a
kind of a faux pas. Shouldn't be kicking h Those
that want to call out BYU fans, they're like, well,
why didn't you have your arms folded and your eyes
closed anyway, that's what you should have been doing.
Speaker 3: The press balance and then you go back.
Speaker 2: And forth about self righteousness and and what's kosher, what's
what's not kosher during a prayer, and X, Y and Z. Ultimately,
it just adds more fuel to the robbery. Those that
want confirmation bias on the Utah side, thinking you all
BYU fans are self righteous pricks that worship their works
and judge everybody for not living up to a certain standard.
They have their fodder for the BYU fans that think
that that Utah, that institution, their players, their coaches are
always trying to make a mockery of their faith. They
have their fodder. I don't know how you want to
interpret it. I think it is what it is. I
don't lean any one direction in this. I just think, uh,
it makes for a really good football rival. Quite honestly,
it just it just does. That's what makes it the
Holy War. That's what makes it the interesting, intriguing dynamic.
That is always adding fuel to the fire is that
dichotomy of mindset.
Speaker 6: And if this is any other Big twelve team, I
don't think we're talking about it. But because it's your rival,
therefore therefore you have to assume the intention was bad,
when that's not always the case.
Speaker 3: And in this case, I mean, has.
Speaker 2: There ever been a kicker warming up on Lavelle Edwards
football Field during a prayer? Though probably I don't know,
but it hasn't gone viral.
Speaker 6: There's no way that it's never happened. I guess maybe
it's possible, man ever happened. I wonder as I was
as someone who was at the game, I was sitting there.
I had no clue this even happened. Until we talked
about it on Monday. I didn't know. So it's not
as though everyone in the stadium was. And maybe that's
just because I'm righteous enough to pray with my eyes closed.
I don't know it is, but I didn't even notice that.
I didn't know this happened until we came in and
talked about it on Monday. Can I give you guys
some good news, though you're ready for some good news
on this whole story. So anytime I click on a
comment section, I always have to flinch a little bit
because I'm never ready for the negativity that's about to ensure, sure,
especially when it's surrounding Utah fans. So I said, you
know what, Ben, I am going to wade through the
treacherous waters that are a Twitter x reply section on
this because I saw that it got over three hundred
and eighty six pose replies already. I said, Okay, I'm
gonna look at this. Okay, you know what's interesting BYU
fan here. You don't need to apologize. You have nothing
to apologize for BYU fan Dylan, no apologies net whatsoever.
You're good, a whole lot of nothing. Shame on those
trying to turn this into something. This is appreciated. It's
a bummers. Your coaches didn't let you know what was up. Dude,
you're fane. This is totally nothing. You were in the zone.
You go through all of these replies, there's no one
inciting any kind of anger, any kind of malice. Everyone
is literally telling him, hey, you didn't need to apologize.
We are sorry that someone made you feel that you
needed to. No one's offended that he was kicking during
the prayer. And honestly, I'm honestly very impressed with the
BAU fan based that there's no BYU fans going in
here saying, yeah, you deserved usogy, you owe us an apology.
Speaker 3: It's about time you gave it.
Speaker 6: The only people who are stirring up any kind of negativity,
as I'm sure you can guess, and I hate to
be this guy, but if we're being.
Speaker 3: Real about it, the facts are what they are.
Speaker 6: The only people who are stirring up any negativity in
this comment section, are you fan burner accounts saying oh well,
BYU fans are always up and tight about this. And
it's like, okay, brother, are you not seeing the other
three hundred and eighty five comments that are right next
to yours full of BYU fans saying hey, brother, all good,
we don't hold it against you. And so I think
that's a really cool of BYU fans to be like, dude,
you didn't need to apologize for this and honestly apologizing
on behalf of BYU fans who maybe did make him
feel the need to apologize, because I just don't know
that you would ever see you fans publicly apologizing on
behalf of their fan base. Obviously, we already talked about
what's going on with Jason Beck's wife and her Twitter,
but I thought it was really cool there. There's again,
there's a lot of conflict and a lot of unfortunate
events that come through in this rivalry, and I think
BYU fans, especially the crazy ones on Twitter, deserve a
rout of a round of applause for taking Kialani's message
in the post game, which was, hey, let's not dance
on anybody's grave.
Speaker 3: Let's show everybody love and respect.
Speaker 6: And for him to post this, I mean, look, that's
pretty ballsy of him to post this apology not knowing
what people can say next. It got a ton of replies,
but all of these brought replies are overwhelmingly positive, and
I love that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I.
Speaker 5: Think it's just an unfortate that he felt the need
to do it, honestly, like it's from what I had seen,
it was just like a it was kind of like
a poking fun at Oh, you know, God blessed us
because you were like I.
Speaker 3: Thought it was just like some kind of funny thing.
Speaker 5: It's just unfortunate that I kind of turned into something
where the kid felt like he was being targeted and
that he was you know, I think I think moreover
most people realize he's a nineteen year old kid, right,
Look like, this is the thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, some people think that these moments are going
to ruin someone's life. That's the that's the assumption that
you you have a moment that goes viral, that a
negative connotation or reaction to it, and it's going to
ruin your life, or that let's say like let's say
this young man is you know, I mean he's from
the state of Utah. I mean, he's familiar with the faith.
He could be a memory, maybe he's less active or whatever.
And then he's got a or he's got an instance
like this where he's being judged for kicking during a
prayer and everyone just assumes he's a bad human, or
some people assume he's a bad human, and he may
be interpreting it as everyone's judging me, and this is
why I don't want to be a part of Mormonism.
This is why I don't want to be a part
of Latter Deccentive because there's a bunch of self righteous pricks.
It's like, I get it, man, sure, Man, I've been
judged before. I've been I've been judged at church outside
of church.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: I've been active in my faith. I've been less active
in my faith before. I've served a mission with due
diligence and in faith. And I've also been like, hey,
you know what, they kind of want to dabble in
a little bit of mamminry.
Speaker 3: I've I've seen it all, I've done it all.
Speaker 2: Okay, to a degree, I understand where someone would be
coming from on that spectrum, is what I'm getting at.
Speaker 3: And so.
Speaker 2: Everyone has to, you know, figure out what's best for
them individually. Uh b Yu and the ld S faith
and those members, they're always gonna be held to a
higher standard. So if you judge, you're you're gonna be
called the self righteous person that is on their their
their ramium them, I call it ramim them Mormon syndrome.
You're chosen, you're better, you're more righteous, You're going to
slesh your kingdom whatever, Like if the slesial kingdom is
is is comprised of that that type of person, then
I probably don't want to be there, nor do I
do I want to be there, right, And so like
when I'm talking about this stuff or when I post
about it, like, it's just commentary, this is it's it's
not that big of a deal. Uh, it's just commentary
and and on life on football, on actions.
Speaker 3: That's what we do here on sports radio.
Speaker 2: We evaluate, we value football and football related activities, and
that was just one of them. I feel bad that
Dylan feels maybe judged here, but I think in the
grand scheme of thing, not as many people are judging
him as he may be feeling that are judging him.
And I don't think his life is ruined over this.
In fact, there's probably gonna be a lot more people
coming to his aid and supporting him and saying where
are the adults in the rooms? Like where was the
adults in the room when the recruits were laying on
of hands and giving a fake fit priesthood blessing to
another recruit? Like where were the adults there? Where are
the adults here? That's what we're talking about here. It's
more so on the adults in these situations, like, hey,
you guys should probably know better and coach up the kids. Okay,
coach up the kids that are in those situations, because
I guarantee nineteen year old Ben did.
Speaker 3: Some stupid stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty two year old post mission Ben did some
stupid stay. I don't want to get into the stories
that the TP bandits, but man, we made some bad decisions,
some bad decisions that haunted me, you know, that could
have haunted me forever I made Shoot, there was police
officers involved, let's just say that. So not the proudest
moment for the Cridinal family. And there's weeping and waving
and gnashing your teeth within the walls of the Criddal
home anyway, and you were assistant to the presidents and
you did this anyway, Yeah, just missed the mark after that. Anyway,
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Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about this stat here.
Speaker 2: Maybe the the most interesting stat of the season BYU
all time is zero to five against the Iowa State
Cyclones and also Iowa States given BYU their worst loss.
Speaker 3: In maybe the modern era.
Speaker 2: I mean, the only other worst loss than this is
probably I want to say, like two thousand and twenty
eleven fifty four to ten Utah. Like that one was
rough from a margin loss standpoint. I feel like Iowa
State the form and fashion which they beat up on BYU.
That was one of the worst losses that b YU
has taken in the modern era. Just a horrific loss
at home under the lights of level vampire cougars did
not show up, show out the all blacks. As we
pointed out, they're they're not a boon for BYU, not
a blessing for BYU. Retire the blackout, the murdered out jerseys.
Please with the royal accents. Never never don those things again.
They're a distraction. I always state, what's that game?
Speaker 3: Guys? What do you guys make of the stat?
Speaker 6: First off, if there's any rule on Cougar Sports with
Ben Crital, it's no black jerseys and no green cleats.
Speaker 3: That is, no vapors, no break.
Speaker 5: Please say one thing about the blackout. I think it's
okay once every five or six years. If the game
is on Halloween, I think that's a good Halloween.
Speaker 6: The only way you could convince me to wear black
jerseys is if BYU was matching up with Middle Tennessee
reach an old dental orthodonics academy. That's the only time
that's the old No, but no, I want to be
playing their dental college.
Speaker 3: That's the only.
Speaker 6: Time I want BYU wearing black uniforms is if YU
was favored by forty points or more. You know what's
just as interesting as stat. I had to go back
and double check this because I didn't believe it to
be true.
Speaker 3: Jay Drew threw this out yesterday.
Speaker 6: In media availability, and I still cannot believe that it's true.
But since that loss, every the BYU has yet to
lose by more than one score since that game against
Siaowa State, which is honestly incredible to me. You go
back to last year, you only lost Arizona State and Kansas,
both those are one score games. And Jay's question that
he asked throughout media availability yesterday.
Speaker 3: And Monday was did that game change something for this team?
Speaker 6: And I think when you look at the fact that
they haven't had very many losses since that Iowa State game,
but the only ones that they have have all been
one score games, something about being disrespected like that turned
a tide for this BYU football team.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 6: They lost to Oklahoma number fourteen Oklahoma. The following week,
That's a game they should have won, twenty four to
thirty one. They lost to Oklahoma State number twenty one
Oklahoma State. They only lost by six points and bou
was not a great football team that season. But ever
since Iowa State disrespected them in the black Unis at
Lavell Edwards Stadium, BOYU has said no more, we are
going to fight tooth and nail to win every possible
football game, and if we lose, it is because you
barely got away with one. I think it's pretty impressive
to see that since that loss, BYU has.
Speaker 3: Not taken any digit double digit losses since then.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'll say I think I remember Connor pay
had an interview with someone. He said, this was last
year's if there's any two teams you want on the
schedule next year or like if you would you'd rather
have on the schedule this year? Who as he said,
West Virginia and Iowa State. Because that was not BYU football.
We were not physical. We did not show them what
bway football was. It was a point of pride back
to back thirty point losses and in nearly thirty at
Texas the week before, and I think TCU wasn't too
long before that. It was a point of pride for
players like Connor pay Is like that was not b
WAYU football.
Speaker 3: We were not physical. That's not okay.
Speaker 5: And I think that message has stuck with BYU ever
since that moment that if we're going to lose, we're
at least going to take a few punches before we
go down.
Speaker 2: So these are some of the worst lawsuits since two
thousand and This includes remember the twenty seventeen team that
was one of the worst teams in BWAU football history. Right,
So you go back to like two thousand and three
when Bay was in rebuild mode, post level, in the
middle of the crowdon era. They lost a Boise State
at one of the best teams at the time, fifty
to twelve.
Speaker 3: That was a thirty eight points. Thirty eight point margin.
Speaker 2: Twenty eleven was the worst though forty four point margin
of loss in provo. That one hurt like that one
hurt close behind that though, remember Wisconsin in twenty seventeen
forty to six. That was a thirty four point margin.
TCU in twenty twenty three was thirty three. Okay, that
was before the Iowa State game, and then you have
Iowa stayed in twenty twenty three thirty two points. That
forty five thirteen loss really a devastating loss. You have
to go back to like two thousand and four. These
are the it's crazy. USC in two thousand and four
was a national champion and they beat BYU forty two
to ten, thirty two points. That's what we're talking about here,
that type of dominance that was the national champion with
Reggie Bush and Matt LEINERD Okay, that's what type of
loss you took versus Iowa State at home thirty two points,
the same type of loss that you took to Reggie
Bush and Matt Lionart in Los Angeles in two thousand
and four.
Speaker 3: Guys, that's insane. Isn't that a crazy number?
Speaker 5: I have something to confess actually about this twenty twenty
three season.
Speaker 3: It's my fault. Oh.
Speaker 5: Interesting, It's my fault because in the games I attended
that year BYU was four and one. The one game
I missed was Iowa State. I was on the way
home on a plane. And the games that I actually
lost that we actually lost.
Speaker 3: I think the only ones that I watched.
Speaker 5: Was was the uh let's say we lost Oklahoma, Oklahoma State,
and West Virginia. I was buying a car during that
TCU game. I did watch the Kansas game too, but
we had a winning record when I was watching, So
I just have to say that's an underrated stat of
the day.
Speaker 3: It's my fault.
Speaker 5: We had a losing season because when I was not watching.
Speaker 3: They were not up for it. Did you only watch
like part of the Sam Houston games that way? We
played so bad?
Speaker 4: Actually?
Speaker 5: Was that one I got there right at There's a
funny story there. I left my brother's wedding dinner to
go to that game because it had been two years
since i'd been to it, you know, it had been
like four or five years because we had COVID. And
then I was on a mission twenty twenty one, twenty
twenty two, and my brother was like, listen, I know
you want to be there more than you want to
be here. And I was like, all right, that's all
I need to hear. Thank you, congratulations, and I'll see
you later.
Speaker 6: So God punished the Kougs for you leaving your brother's
wedding dinner.
Speaker 5: Well, he punished when I wasn't watching, So that it
is my fault.
Speaker 3: This is a BYU think, right.
Speaker 2: We become very superstitious about what we're doing, what we're wearing,
what we're saying, like where we're sitting, what we're eating.
That's true fandom right there, And so it's good that
you internalize these things and take accountability. I'm always Kyle
Whittingham can take accountability when his team loses, We're just.
Speaker 3: Focused on us. He's just focused on himself. He's not
focused on his team. Now.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the shoes that I was wearing when we lost
to Oregon in twenty twenty two, I think it was
I've won them once. See that's personal afraid that if
I wear them again, that's a personal account horrible will happen.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: I really do appreciate that personal accountability right there. So
the biggest stat of the day by US oho and five?
What makes us believe all time versus iowas state always
oh and five versus ioways date all time and I
always state handed, you know, one of your worst losses
in the modern era to to your coups and died,
you have thirty two point l on your home field,
which makes it all the more painful.
Speaker 6: I thought it was interesting that when Whale and lapoua
who was asked about that loss, I expect.
Speaker 3: I just always expect.
Speaker 6: Coach talk whenever players are asked anything, So when they
don't give me coach talk, I pay attention. And I
expected the coach talk from Whalan lap Wahuo to be no,
we're not really thinking about it. We're just focused on
the next one.
Speaker 3: And that was not his answer.
Speaker 6: He said, no, we got something that we got to
give a little get back. And I think that that's
a huge deal because I think it's really important that
they remember what Iowa State did to you on your
home field because you now have an opportunity to go
back and do that to them.
Speaker 3: Keep in mind, a bunch.
Speaker 6: Of the guys who are starting for this team now
were on that team in twenty twenty three. Did we
believe BYU is the better football team? But the question
is Iowa State is favored for a reason, and do
you see them losing three games straight? I'm not sure,
But the thing that makes me feel confident is that
stat that I started off with earlier. They have yet
to lose by more than two scores ever since Iowa
State did that to them, and they almost haven't. They
haven't lost very million games at all. Iowa State is
going to get BYU's best in this game.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think there's just some losses that, like everyone hates
to lose, but there are a few losses that you
take personally, and I think the last two that b
way you really took personally are Arizona State last year,
in Iowa State two years ago. The Kansas loss hurt,
But I don't know if it's taken us personally, is
that Arizona State loss and this Iowa State loss, because
there's portions of those both of those games where by
you just did not show up. And I think all
these players have taken it on themselves to say we
are always going to show up.
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