WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:08.320 Big Food and Beyond with Cliff and Bubo. 2 00:00:08.839 --> 00:00:12.279 These guys, are you fav It's so like say subscribe 3 00:00:12.359 --> 00:00:13.160 and raid it? 4 00:00:13.359 --> 00:00:16.280 Five stock and. 5 00:00:18.120 --> 00:00:20.600 Greatest question today listening. 6 00:00:20.679 --> 00:00:25.359 Oh watchy limb always keep its watching. 7 00:00:26.640 --> 00:00:30.440 And now you're hosts Cliff Berrickman and James Bubo Fay. 8 00:00:31.120 --> 00:00:32.439 Greetings, bobes. How you doing? Man? 9 00:00:32.960 --> 00:00:35.079 Oh good? How's going not so bad? 10 00:00:35.280 --> 00:00:35.840 Not so bad. 11 00:00:36.159 --> 00:00:38.200 Finally got out to the woods again, looking at that. 12 00:00:38.200 --> 00:00:41.359 That's looking good. Weird tree breaks, super weird things are happening. 13 00:00:42.000 --> 00:00:44.560 Local stories are starting to trickle in. There's always something 14 00:00:44.600 --> 00:00:48.359 going on, man, always something going on. So kind of exciting. 15 00:00:48.799 --> 00:00:49.399 That's great. 16 00:00:50.039 --> 00:00:51.439 Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty stoked. 17 00:00:51.439 --> 00:00:51.560 Man. 18 00:00:51.600 --> 00:00:53.560 I needed to walk around in the woods. I needed 19 00:00:53.560 --> 00:00:55.880 to clear my head. I needed to get my eyes 20 00:00:55.960 --> 00:00:59.359 on the ground looking for footprints. Found a possible fourteen 21 00:00:59.399 --> 00:01:03.640 inch print one of our local spots last week, and 22 00:01:03.679 --> 00:01:06.400 then this week found some other possible thing. Nothing you 23 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:08.480 can hang your hat on. Nothing you can hang your hat. 24 00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:10.519 But still, it's good to be out in the woods, man. 25 00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:13.640 And the weather's changing. We got spring. Now, we got 26 00:01:13.680 --> 00:01:16.519 the good weather looking at us for the next six 27 00:01:16.599 --> 00:01:20.760 or eight months. Some sunlight, yeah, sunlight has been beautiful 28 00:01:20.760 --> 00:01:23.159 and blue Skies lately and got a great friend on 29 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:25.400 the podcast today. Everything's going good man, Everything's coming up, 30 00:01:25.400 --> 00:01:27.359 Cliff from Bobo, what about you, man. 31 00:01:27.400 --> 00:01:29.519 I'm working with this new Well, no, he's a kid 32 00:01:29.519 --> 00:01:31.359 I was working with before, but the kid that's in 33 00:01:31.400 --> 00:01:35.799 the big Foot at school. Yeah, and he's obsessed with 34 00:01:35.879 --> 00:01:38.959 mountain monsters. So I was going to give a called 35 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:41.680 a wild Bill like the city talked to him for 36 00:01:41.719 --> 00:01:42.439 a couple of minutes. 37 00:01:43.640 --> 00:01:46.079 Well, yeah, Bill will sign some autographs or something for 38 00:01:46.159 --> 00:01:48.000 him too. You know. I'm going to see those guys 39 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:50.400 in April. I'm doing that gig out in Colorado and 40 00:01:50.560 --> 00:01:51.719 ESS's Park in April. 41 00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:56.040 They're going to Yeah, yeah, awesome, that's great. 42 00:01:56.480 --> 00:01:58.840 I think Berea is there and the Mountain Monster folks 43 00:01:58.840 --> 00:02:00.879 and I'm going to be and if there's anybody else, 44 00:02:01.239 --> 00:02:03.319 I don't know, because I haven't seen the fly or anything. 45 00:02:03.359 --> 00:02:04.680 I don't know. I don't know what's going on. I 46 00:02:04.760 --> 00:02:06.799 just you know, sign a contract and I show up 47 00:02:06.799 --> 00:02:09.240 and smile and stuff, you know, and shake babies and 48 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:11.759 do that sort of thing. But I'll try to maybe 49 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:15.240 grab a couple of autographs from those guys if I remember. 50 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:18.039 Oh cool who spiked cliff coffee today? 51 00:02:18.599 --> 00:02:20.479 Yeah, well, dude, I'm stoked. You know where I am 52 00:02:20.560 --> 00:02:23.879 right now? Where I'm First of all, I'm in Sandy, Oregon. 53 00:02:24.039 --> 00:02:26.159 That's one part, and that is my hometown, or at 54 00:02:26.240 --> 00:02:27.879 least that's the town I live in. I choose to 55 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:31.520 live in. But I am sitting in the record and 56 00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:33.680 I'm not sitting in the record shop. I'm sitting in 57 00:02:33.960 --> 00:02:37.840 a record shop in Sandy, which is probably one of 58 00:02:37.879 --> 00:02:42.520 the best vinyl shops, like certainly locally. I mean, I'm 59 00:02:42.680 --> 00:02:44.919 sure there's things like a Miba record and all that 60 00:02:44.960 --> 00:02:47.360 sort of stuff, like the Giant warehouse sort of things, 61 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:50.800 but as far as a local little shop, I'm sitting 62 00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:53.759 in there now with the lovely and talented Scott mint On, 63 00:02:54.120 --> 00:02:57.199 often referred to as Minty Fresh. 64 00:02:57.719 --> 00:02:58.080 Yeah. 65 00:02:58.560 --> 00:03:01.039 Right, that shop spright when you're going north, like if 66 00:03:01.039 --> 00:03:02.599 you're heading up towards the mountain, it's on the right 67 00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:04.560 hand side on that one way street. Right. 68 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:10.840 That is absolutely correct. It's a skateboard shop, skateboard museum, 69 00:03:11.319 --> 00:03:14.080 and vinyl record shop all in one. 70 00:03:14.560 --> 00:03:16.240 That place is killer in there. 71 00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:18.599 And I'm sitting here right now, so how could I 72 00:03:18.719 --> 00:03:22.680 not be excited right, and by the way, here he is, Scott. 73 00:03:22.680 --> 00:03:24.879 Thanks for coming on, man, I really really, really really 74 00:03:24.960 --> 00:03:26.599 appreciate It's been a long time that we've been trying 75 00:03:26.639 --> 00:03:28.000 to get you on the shop, the show here. 76 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:33.039 I'm super excited to be here. Thanks for being persistent. 77 00:03:33.560 --> 00:03:36.319 You've been asking me for four or five years now. 78 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:37.159 Yeah, a long time. 79 00:03:37.439 --> 00:03:39.639 I just haven't been able to make time or for 80 00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:42.159 three hundred episodes or so. I don't know how how 81 00:03:42.199 --> 00:03:45.159 long it's actually you guys have been doing this. Feels 82 00:03:45.199 --> 00:03:45.639 like forever. 83 00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:47.000 It does feel like forever. 84 00:03:47.360 --> 00:03:50.159 What's up, Boves. It's good to see you, buddy, good 85 00:03:50.159 --> 00:03:53.439 to hear you. I know what you look like. Your 86 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:57.039 images burnt into my visage so well. 87 00:03:57.080 --> 00:03:58.879 You know, we didn't we didn't bring Scott on to 88 00:03:59.159 --> 00:04:01.960 talk about the record shop or the skateboarding shop and 89 00:04:02.439 --> 00:04:04.280 all the way up that really should be spoken about 90 00:04:04.280 --> 00:04:05.919 a little bit, I think, because there's a new skate 91 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:07.840 park here in Sandy and there's a lot of cool 92 00:04:07.879 --> 00:04:10.680 things going on here. But we brought them on because 93 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:13.599 Scott has been a Bigfooter for a very very long time. 94 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:16.560 And besides that, he's like most of my friends, he's 95 00:04:16.600 --> 00:04:17.600 an unusual weirdo. 96 00:04:17.720 --> 00:04:19.399 Right, he's a usual weirdo. 97 00:04:19.800 --> 00:04:23.759 He's the usual weirdo, and he's had some pretty crazy encounters, 98 00:04:23.800 --> 00:04:25.399 some of which have been recorded that we're going to 99 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:28.360 play for you guys here, but I guess we should 100 00:04:28.360 --> 00:04:30.000 start at the beginning, like how the hell do we 101 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:31.959 know you man? Because Bobo, when I met you, I 102 00:04:31.959 --> 00:04:33.720 think at the same time, right. 103 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:36.680 Yeah, yeah, I met you guys within like twenty four hours, 104 00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:40.639 and I was thinking about that today. I had to 105 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:43.439 dig in my boxes of notes. Luckily I'm a hoarder, 106 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:46.759 and I just heard the good stuff art and memories 107 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:49.240 and things. And it was two thousand and eight and 108 00:04:49.920 --> 00:04:55.879 I went on the Mendocino BFRO expedition, which at the 109 00:04:55.879 --> 00:05:00.879 time was just a Northern California expedition, and uh, yeah, 110 00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:05.959 you guys ended up being there, and uh I found 111 00:05:05.959 --> 00:05:11.639 out after you know, driving eleven hours or so to 112 00:05:11.720 --> 00:05:14.079 go to this really secluded place. It was like a 113 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:18.120 treasure hunt, and ended up meeting all you guys. And 114 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:19.759 then at the end of the trip, we're kind of, 115 00:05:20.399 --> 00:05:23.240 you know, saying goodbye, like hey, yeah, you know, where 116 00:05:23.240 --> 00:05:25.399 are you going. I'm like, oh, I gotta drive. I 117 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:27.879 got to drive, like eleven hours and you're like Cliff, 118 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:29.800 you were like, yeah, I gotta drive eleven hours too. 119 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:31.480 I'm like, cool, Yeah, I gotta drive all the way 120 00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:33.519 back to LA. You're like, I got to drive back 121 00:05:33.560 --> 00:05:35.560 to LA. I was like, cool, I got to drive 122 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:37.319 back to Long Beach and You're like, I got to 123 00:05:37.360 --> 00:05:40.000 drive back to Long Beach. I was like, wait a minute, 124 00:05:40.319 --> 00:05:43.279 I got to drive back to I can't remember our neighborhood, 125 00:05:43.279 --> 00:05:47.399 but I was like Fourth Avenue or yeah, Fourth and Zmo. Yeah, 126 00:05:47.720 --> 00:05:49.680 like I got to drive to Fourth and zm Ando 127 00:05:50.240 --> 00:05:53.759 and we lived on the same street about a block 128 00:05:53.800 --> 00:05:54.480 from each other. 129 00:05:56.319 --> 00:05:56.519 Yeah. 130 00:05:56.680 --> 00:05:59.199 It was just I was like, I guess we're friends now. 131 00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:01.399 Yeah, and we're friends still. Yeah. 132 00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:03.319 It was so easy. I was all I had to 133 00:06:03.319 --> 00:06:06.959 do is just follow the Treasure map to your friendship. 134 00:06:07.319 --> 00:06:10.480 And Bobo's too. You guys made a very cool entrance, 135 00:06:10.680 --> 00:06:13.720 and I remember I think you know whord got through 136 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:16.199 the camp, like I Bobo came and I like, at 137 00:06:16.199 --> 00:06:19.319 that time, I was interested in Bigfoot before I knew 138 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:23.120 about the BFRO, but I didn't like reach out to people, 139 00:06:23.279 --> 00:06:25.639 and you guys were kind of the first people I 140 00:06:25.759 --> 00:06:28.920 somehow discovered, like on that early I feel like early 141 00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:30.639 days of Internet's the wrong thing to say, but it 142 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:33.759 really does feel like we were like using dial up 143 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:36.360 and stuff, and it was just it felt like very 144 00:06:36.360 --> 00:06:38.800 ancient now. But you know, I didn't know that there 145 00:06:38.839 --> 00:06:42.319 were people who, like, you know, kind of spent as 146 00:06:42.399 --> 00:06:45.199 much time doing this stuffs as all of you guys do. 147 00:06:45.959 --> 00:06:49.000 And therefore I didn't know that there were people that 148 00:06:49.040 --> 00:06:54.360 were like popular or quasi celebrity and big footing and 149 00:06:54.439 --> 00:06:57.360 not the you know, that's probably the wrong term, but 150 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:01.639 like Bobo has a story that precedes him, you know, 151 00:07:01.720 --> 00:07:04.199 So like I heard who is that guy? And uh, 152 00:07:04.680 --> 00:07:06.800 I just remember, like I'm gonna go meet him. And 153 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:09.240 I got so excited, and I drove down from wherever 154 00:07:09.279 --> 00:07:11.439 I was down to this camp and we I think 155 00:07:11.439 --> 00:07:13.800 we had the whole campsite be cause we were, you know, 156 00:07:13.879 --> 00:07:16.879 we were the first people into this valley. Like I 157 00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:19.560 went flying down there and I like parked my car 158 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:21.959 and jumped out and I'm like, oh, hey, what's up, man, 159 00:07:22.279 --> 00:07:26.000 And You're like I don't know what's up. And you're 160 00:07:26.000 --> 00:07:28.000 just standing there and I'm like, damn, you're tall, and 161 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:30.519 you're like, let me give you a little advice. When 162 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:33.399 you're driving through a campsite, but want to take it 163 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:34.319 a little slower. 164 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:36.079 Oh yeah, you dusted us out. 165 00:07:36.519 --> 00:07:38.759 Yeah I did. I totally did. But I needed to 166 00:07:38.839 --> 00:07:42.519 learn that lesson. It was great. I was like, okay, cool, yeah, 167 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:45.439 oh yeah, it's not all about me. Let me, let 168 00:07:45.439 --> 00:07:47.319 me take a step back. But I think it was 169 00:07:47.319 --> 00:07:49.959 a great way to meet you because you're like, obviously 170 00:07:49.959 --> 00:07:52.839 you're you, you got a great heart, and uh, it's 171 00:07:52.839 --> 00:07:55.920 a good time police. Yeah, definitely. And after I talked 172 00:07:55.920 --> 00:07:57.240 to you for five minutes, I'm like, oh, I'll be 173 00:07:57.240 --> 00:08:00.160 friends with it did probably forever, and it was It 174 00:08:00.199 --> 00:08:00.680 was just great. 175 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:03.560 Yeah, Bobo is in fact a good time police. As 176 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:06.639 long as everybody, and I mean everybody is having a 177 00:08:06.680 --> 00:08:10.399 good time, nobody gets their ass kicked. But if somebody 178 00:08:10.439 --> 00:08:13.720 pulls things sideways, you know, or makes somebody else bum out, 179 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:16.839 or you know whatever, Bobo's gonna have some words and 180 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:19.240 it may come to blows. I've seen that happen before, man, 181 00:08:19.319 --> 00:08:21.560 So Bobo is in fact a good time police. So 182 00:08:21.720 --> 00:08:23.800 you got luckily, you're a lovely person, Scott. 183 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:26.839 I got a citation, I got I got a warning warning. 184 00:08:29.319 --> 00:08:31.560 Well, let let's talk about that. Expedition, because when I 185 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:34.000 look back at that expedition, I know that we're in California, 186 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:37.879 and I know that we're on a reservation. It's something 187 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:40.440 like right outside the reds I don't remember which I 188 00:08:40.480 --> 00:08:44.080 remember almost nothing else about it. What was Derek Randall's there? 189 00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:45.159 He might have been. 190 00:08:45.279 --> 00:08:47.120 I can remember a big, old white truck and I 191 00:08:47.120 --> 00:08:49.360 thought that was Derek's or something, so I met him. 192 00:08:49.799 --> 00:08:52.080 I believe that was the year that Bobo and I were. 193 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:55.320 We spent what seven weeks or ten fourteen weeks together 194 00:08:55.480 --> 00:08:55.879 or something. 195 00:08:56.399 --> 00:08:56.639 Ten. 196 00:08:57.080 --> 00:08:59.000 Oh, it's got ten weeks there you go. Yeah, we 197 00:08:59.000 --> 00:09:01.519 were everywhere from the the California Sierra Is, all the 198 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:04.200 way of the British Columbia and everywhere in between. That's 199 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:06.799 when I met Mike Green. That's when I met Derek Randalls. 200 00:09:06.919 --> 00:09:08.840 That's where I met a bunch of people that I'm 201 00:09:08.840 --> 00:09:11.279 still in contact with today. Wonderful people. 202 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:16.360 Yeah, wonderful and uh, Bart, of course you and Matt. 203 00:09:17.039 --> 00:09:19.039 You know, it was my first Matt interaction. 204 00:09:20.039 --> 00:09:23.600 Tell us, tell us about give us a good buddymaker story, man. 205 00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:27.279 I to this day, I'm still amazed at the amount 206 00:09:27.320 --> 00:09:30.799 of energy that Matt brings to everything that he does 207 00:09:30.840 --> 00:09:33.960 and like big footing, particularly in the BFRO O, and 208 00:09:34.840 --> 00:09:38.320 just like that level of sincerity and care that he 209 00:09:38.440 --> 00:09:41.720 has about all this stuff is like amazing, and that 210 00:09:42.399 --> 00:09:45.679 comes across all the time. Like when you see Matt 211 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:48.240 at eight in the morning, where you see Matt in 212 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:51.200 the middle of ves some action or whatever, he's he's 213 00:09:51.240 --> 00:09:54.159 one hundred percent there, and I feel like that's he 214 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:56.600 says exactly what he thinks. He has like no filter, 215 00:09:56.799 --> 00:10:00.720 and I to appreciate that in people because it's pretty honest. 216 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:04.080 And it's like, man, I'd rather know exactly what you 217 00:10:04.120 --> 00:10:07.159 think than I think you mean something else and find 218 00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:10.639 it out later. You know, it's just that sincerity. And 219 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:13.240 I'm a high energy person. Matt's hg energy person. So 220 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:16.120 I was like, this dude's cool. And uh, he'd like 221 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:17.720 set up the treasure hunt, you know what I mean, 222 00:10:17.759 --> 00:10:20.559 Like he he made the flats or whatever, you know, 223 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:24.759 his his BFRO brainchild. It was pretty cool. But then 224 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:27.320 like I didn't realize I could like be a part 225 00:10:27.399 --> 00:10:30.440 of that, and like I could go look for monsters. 226 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:32.159 I don't just have to read about him in a book. 227 00:10:32.279 --> 00:10:35.600 Like that's kind of cool. And then like I said, 228 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:38.399 I was thinking through papers and I found I applied 229 00:10:38.559 --> 00:10:43.000 to be in the BFRO with like a business letter. 230 00:10:45.039 --> 00:10:47.320 He has a letter here, he has like these binders 231 00:10:47.320 --> 00:10:50.600 of BFRO stuff, and like, here's his. He's gonna read 232 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:53.200 the letter that he applied to the BFRO. Make sure 233 00:10:53.200 --> 00:10:54.720 you see the date that we wanted, the date on 234 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:55.039 that one. 235 00:10:55.360 --> 00:10:58.440 Oh yeah, So, dear Matt, it was a pleasure to 236 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:02.879 attend the Menacino Expedition May one through four. As promised, 237 00:11:02.919 --> 00:11:05.159 I am returning the SD card that I used to 238 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:09.480 record on one night of the night missions. Unfortunately, aside 239 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:11.600 from a snap that may have been a twig breaking, 240 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:15.120 there was nothing of any substance on any of the recordings. 241 00:11:15.600 --> 00:11:18.000 When we parted ways, you mentioned that if I was 242 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:21.480 interested in helping out with investigations and interviews, it might 243 00:11:21.519 --> 00:11:25.600 be possible. Unfortunately, I've not heard back from Brandon. Sorry, Buddy, 244 00:11:25.639 --> 00:11:27.919 didn't mean to throw it under the bus there. Regarding this. 245 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:30.559 He did get back to me. I realized that it's 246 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:34.320 ultimately your decision, so I'm again making my interest known. 247 00:11:34.399 --> 00:11:36.679 I would love to try my hand at following up 248 00:11:36.679 --> 00:11:39.679 in reports that would be relevant to my present location 249 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:43.200 in southern California. I am a New Jersey native and 250 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:46.960 am fairly familiar with the New Jersey and eastern Pennsylvania area, 251 00:11:47.320 --> 00:11:49.159 and I lived in the Pine barrens for four years. 252 00:11:49.480 --> 00:11:51.440 I think I was saying I would help up with 253 00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:54.200 the New Jersey stuff too. I'd be willing to teep 254 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:57.279 up with and learn the ropes from other investigators as well. 255 00:11:57.360 --> 00:12:01.240 I'm also willing to travel if necessary. Thanks for your time, Sincerely, 256 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:04.879 Scott Manton Hired. I'll get you tie that down now. 257 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:08.240 You couldn't, although I will say I absolutely guarantee you 258 00:12:08.279 --> 00:12:10.399 Matt doesn't give a crap about the SD card at all. 259 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:11.360 Oh I know, yeah, I. 260 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:13.559 Know it now. That's why I made a point to 261 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:16.519 read that. 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He's a ski patrol 305 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:41.159 guy up here or was. I don't know if you 306 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:42.200 still Are you still doing that? 307 00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:45.039 I think once you're in, you're never out unless you 308 00:14:45.080 --> 00:14:47.120 get jumped out. But I did not pay my dues 309 00:14:47.159 --> 00:14:49.639 this year, and I'm not patrolling because I broke my 310 00:14:49.679 --> 00:14:50.440 knee and that's. 311 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:53.559 A whole other story. Yeah, but I'll probably go back 312 00:14:53.600 --> 00:14:57.559 to it. Well, he has like medical cards and all 313 00:14:57.559 --> 00:14:59.879 that sort of stuff. And you know, when I do expeditions, 314 00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:02.720 everything above board, so to speak. So I get my 315 00:15:02.759 --> 00:15:04.600 permits and I do all the I jump through all 316 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:07.919 the hoops at Mount Hood National Forest expects you to do, 317 00:15:08.360 --> 00:15:11.360 and it looks very favorable if you have someone who's 318 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:14.559 kind of like an EMT sort of status or right 319 00:15:14.600 --> 00:15:17.919 below there. I don't know where ski patrol fun but anyway, 320 00:15:17.960 --> 00:15:19.919 he was my right hand out there because he's very 321 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:23.000 versed at bigfoot stuff, and on top of that, he's 322 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:27.480 got medical skills and people's skills and all this other 323 00:15:27.519 --> 00:15:31.080 stuff too. So he hosted expeditions with me for at 324 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:34.120 least a year or two or something like that. What 325 00:15:34.159 --> 00:15:36.159 are some of the highlights that you remember from there? 326 00:15:36.200 --> 00:15:38.519 Because you were actually part of the discovery of a 327 00:15:38.519 --> 00:15:41.559 place that we nicknamed Lindsay Lake for example, that is 328 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:44.960 still producing a possible handprint cast came out of there 329 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:48.279 not three weeks ago, so yet it's still going. Or 330 00:15:48.279 --> 00:15:51.080 maybe well, probably not five weeks ago, I think to 331 00:15:51.200 --> 00:15:53.799 be fair, is before the snow came, but still, what 332 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:56.399 are some of the memories you have of those events? 333 00:15:56.919 --> 00:16:01.039 Oh Man, it was North American Bigfoot at that time, right, yeah, exactly. 334 00:16:01.159 --> 00:16:03.240 I didn't put the center, no center yet, I mean 335 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:05.720 because that was just a dream, yeah that had or 336 00:16:05.759 --> 00:16:08.519 it wasn't even a dream yet, not even yet. But 337 00:16:08.879 --> 00:16:12.000 the North American Bigfoot stuff is great. And then like 338 00:16:12.360 --> 00:16:15.600 having a smaller group, it was it was a little 339 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:19.360 bit tighter and in a smaller space. It was nice. 340 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:21.159 We limited the twelve just yeah. 341 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:22.559 It was just the right amount of people. 342 00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:25.519 I learned that from fishing in southern California, because you 343 00:16:25.519 --> 00:16:27.399 can go pay money at like you know, forty bucks 344 00:16:27.480 --> 00:16:29.279 or something and go on a party boat, so to speak, 345 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:32.360 and there could be eight people on board, there could 346 00:16:32.399 --> 00:16:34.240 be sixty people on board. You just don't know. 347 00:16:34.360 --> 00:16:35.279 Way different experience. 348 00:16:35.320 --> 00:16:38.559 But if you want to fish in a more reasonable situation, 349 00:16:38.679 --> 00:16:41.080 you can go on a limited load thing and pay 350 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:42.799 like twice as much, like eighty bucks or a hundred 351 00:16:42.840 --> 00:16:44.960 I mean this is back in you know, the nineties 352 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:47.320 or whatever, so I'm sure it's much more expensive now, 353 00:16:47.519 --> 00:16:49.639 but you could spend like one hundred bucks or eighty 354 00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:51.639 bucks or something and go on a limited load trip 355 00:16:51.879 --> 00:16:54.240 of twenty four people max. And then probably catch more 356 00:16:54.279 --> 00:16:56.080 fish because of it, so I kind of picked that 357 00:16:56.200 --> 00:16:56.720 up from there. 358 00:16:57.320 --> 00:17:01.600 So yeah, well I was gonna say, since you're talking 359 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:03.639 about money and stuff like that, I do want to 360 00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:05.480 touch back on when I was talking about the BFRO. 361 00:17:05.960 --> 00:17:07.920 When I when I found out, you know, you can 362 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:10.880 pay to go on expeditions. There's always these purists and 363 00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:13.200 people out there will complain about anything on the Internet, 364 00:17:13.240 --> 00:17:15.400 of course, so people are like, oh, it's very charge 365 00:17:15.400 --> 00:17:17.000 of money to take people out in the woods and 366 00:17:17.039 --> 00:17:18.880 this and that. And I just want to say, one 367 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:22.000 hundred percent, every cent I spent, every dollar I spent 368 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:25.720 on BFRO stuff was totally worth it. And you know, 369 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:28.440 for anyone who's ever gone on any of those trips, 370 00:17:28.559 --> 00:17:30.960 they know, they know how amazing it is. 371 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:33.599 And oh yeah, I mean you spend three hundred bucks 372 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:36.200 and you get you get all the knowledge that those 373 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:38.359 people that are putting on the expedition in that area. 374 00:17:38.440 --> 00:17:41.319 Like I mean, I spent tens of thousands of dollars 375 00:17:41.319 --> 00:17:46.160 in fuel and breaks and transmissions and you know gas, 376 00:17:46.920 --> 00:17:49.400 you know, just eating up getting to know the area 377 00:17:49.440 --> 00:17:51.880 and then something's gonna come out and just absorb all that, 378 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:54.559 you know, Like I'd always told people like dude, lawyers 379 00:17:54.599 --> 00:17:57.200 charged four or five six hundred bucks an hour, and 380 00:17:57.359 --> 00:18:00.880 I'm charged with less than that for way way more return. 381 00:18:01.319 --> 00:18:03.000 Paying for it's all right, And I have no problem 382 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:06.000 saying that. And anybody that's thinking about it, you know, 383 00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:09.599 look into it. Do it with any organization that you 384 00:18:09.640 --> 00:18:12.880 think is is someone you want to support, Just you know, 385 00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:15.920 look and be careful who you're supporting. But the North 386 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:20.279 American Bigfoot stuff, same deal. Like I feel like every 387 00:18:20.319 --> 00:18:23.599 cent that people put into that they got, they doubled 388 00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:28.640 their money in. Just like the sure enjoyment of that 389 00:18:28.720 --> 00:18:30.799 we found like the best spot. I don't want to 390 00:18:30.799 --> 00:18:33.680 give it away just to say at the doorstep of 391 00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:37.799 what became the honeypot that is still producing years later. 392 00:18:38.079 --> 00:18:40.279 That's like one of our locations that we regularly hit, 393 00:18:40.599 --> 00:18:45.200 and that was that was like proximity of just being 394 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:49.640 there was amazing. And then having the guests come like 395 00:18:50.039 --> 00:18:53.119 you had, you know, round robin of like amazing people. 396 00:18:53.119 --> 00:18:57.000 You had doctor Jeff melderm came, Bobo came, Chris Mineir 397 00:18:57.119 --> 00:19:00.759 came that, Derek Randall, Randall's came. Yeah, Like every one 398 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:04.000 of those trips was cool because there's a little bit 399 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:07.079 different flavor to everyone's style and what they brought to it. 400 00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:09.880 So what are the some of the Bigfoot activity things 401 00:19:09.880 --> 00:19:12.960