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<v Speaker 1>I was a fifteen year old boy scout when our

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<v Speaker 1>troop was taken to Carter Caves State Park in eastern

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky for a week of primitive camping. One evening, after

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<v Speaker 1>a day of carousing around, swimming, hiking, cave exploring, and

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<v Speaker 1>loving to be while young teenage boys, we finally had

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<v Speaker 1>a very late supper. Afterward, we drove the chilly night

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<v Speaker 1>away around our campfires, a large one for the troops

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<v Speaker 1>and a second for the scout master and his assistant

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<v Speaker 1>some twenty feet away. Upon this scene, about ten PM

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<v Speaker 1>or so arrived a park ranger on his nightly visit

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<v Speaker 1>to our camp. He usually just looked us over, asked

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<v Speaker 1>if we had any needs, and then he left, but

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<v Speaker 1>this evening he apparently had a couple of things on

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<v Speaker 1>his mind. Upon gathering up the scouts, the ranger said

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<v Speaker 1>he was looking in to an incident concerning one enterprising scout.

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<v Speaker 1>He said that he was told that this scout was

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<v Speaker 1>going down to the trading post at the bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>the mountain, buying up all the nickel candy bars during

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<v Speaker 1>the day, coming back to camp, and selling them after

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<v Speaker 1>dark for a dime. After being informed that doing such

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<v Speaker 1>a dastardly thing to fellow scouts was wrong. The culprit

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<v Speaker 1>who was me was admonished for practicing my first try

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<v Speaker 1>it for a enterprise. I thought it was fair. I

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<v Speaker 1>spent two hours trudging up and down the mountain every day,

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<v Speaker 1>and for the past four days they bought every candy

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<v Speaker 1>bar I had. But a snitch tried to blackmail me

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<v Speaker 1>into giving him a share of my profits. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>do so, so he reported me to the ranger. The

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<v Speaker 1>guys really gave it to me good, rising me and

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<v Speaker 1>shoving me around in the circle. The ranger, on his part,

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<v Speaker 1>put his hand on his hips and smiled at me

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<v Speaker 1>and shook his head and walked over and sat down

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<v Speaker 1>at the scout master's fire across the campsite. Wondering if

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<v Speaker 1>they'd talked more about me. I made a small circle

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<v Speaker 1>around the tents and I crept nearer. I sat down

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<v Speaker 1>outside the fire circles, listening in on the adult conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I heard had nothing to do with me.

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<v Speaker 1>The ranger was cautioning the scout masters that in the

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<v Speaker 1>general area around the park there had been a tax

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<v Speaker 1>on area farm stock. They put the blame on dog

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<v Speaker 1>packs codies, coy dogs, cougars, bears, and maybe black panthers,

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<v Speaker 1>which we had and still having this part of the country.

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<v Speaker 1>The attacks were particularly prevalent in one area about eight

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<v Speaker 1>miles away from the park. He said that recently, thinking

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<v Speaker 1>that they had the animal cornered, about one hundred volunteers

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<v Speaker 1>formed a line with twenty five feet or so between

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<v Speaker 1>each one, with some extra men at the closing end.

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<v Speaker 1>When it began to get dark, every man lit up

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of lantern or flashlight. As they pushed through

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<v Speaker 1>the stifling, hot and dusty tall brush. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>bit hard to breathe because there was a dry spell

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<v Speaker 1>one and the shaking the parched weeds dusted the air

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<v Speaker 1>with an artificial yellow fog of pollen, which grew about

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<v Speaker 1>eight feet high or more this time of year. At

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<v Speaker 1>one point, as they fought their way among the entangling brush,

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<v Speaker 1>they heard a scream and a shotgun blast, and they

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<v Speaker 1>rushed to the point in the line they found one

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<v Speaker 1>of the younger men, he was about twenty years old,

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<v Speaker 1>groaning in amongst some crushed vegetation. His gun was found

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<v Speaker 1>with the stock smashed in the barrel bent at the

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<v Speaker 1>base of a nearby tree. He was out of his

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<v Speaker 1>head with fright, so he was transported to the hospital

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<v Speaker 1>where he was kept overnight for chest bruising and shock.

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<v Speaker 1>He was sedated, so nothing could be learned the incident

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<v Speaker 1>until the next morning. After a day or so, According

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<v Speaker 1>to what I overheard the ranger say, the boy had

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<v Speaker 1>calmed down enough to relay his story. He said that

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<v Speaker 1>he was walking through the dusty growth with his lantern

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<v Speaker 1>raised in one hand and a shotgun in the other.

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<v Speaker 1>He said he heard and saw a rush of movement

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<v Speaker 1>from directly ahead that something was coming directly for him.

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<v Speaker 1>When a huge white wall came crashing down on him,

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<v Speaker 1>He awkwardly lifted his shotgun in one hand and fired,

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<v Speaker 1>but was immediately struck in the chest and launched through

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<v Speaker 1>the air. The crush of vegetation gave little clue as

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<v Speaker 1>to the type of an animal that had attacked the boy.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no blood at the scene, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if anyone tried to backtrail it through the weeds

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<v Speaker 1>to see where it came from, but they didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>even another glimpse of it, and no one would volunteer

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<v Speaker 1>to follow out after it. The boy didn't know if

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<v Speaker 1>he'd even shot it and had no idea what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was sure that it struck him with more powerful

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<v Speaker 1>of a push than a hit, but it was able

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<v Speaker 1>to propel him through the air in what he perceived

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<v Speaker 1>to be a very little effort on the thing's part.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing was never caught after apparently getting through

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<v Speaker 1>the line. Needless to say, that was the end of

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<v Speaker 1>any more skirmish lines and for this thing could withstand

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<v Speaker 1>a shotgun blast than all bets were off. It has

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<v Speaker 1>still been seen throughout the following decades as something like

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<v Speaker 1>a white shadow going through the woods, and has remained

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<v Speaker 1>around the southeastern portion of Carter County, about twenty miles

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<v Speaker 1>south of the park even to this day. But more

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<v Speaker 1>on this particular thing later. As I squatted shaking in

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<v Speaker 1>the night, the forest noise around me seemed to go quiet.

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<v Speaker 1>I realized I was alone in the dark. I made

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<v Speaker 1>it safely back to my tent and my sleeping bag.

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<v Speaker 1>At that time, the mention of it being a sasquatch

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<v Speaker 1>was never discussed or even considered. Bigfoot was alive and

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<v Speaker 1>well at this time, supposedly in the Pacific Northwest, or

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<v Speaker 1>so we thought. Back some fifty five years ago, not

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<v Speaker 1>as it would be in the later sixties and early seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>and so was lost in my mind for all these years.

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<v Speaker 1>And now Incident number two occurred in August of nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty six, and this gentleman was seventeen years old. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>a little note, he writes to me before he starts

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<v Speaker 1>the story. I finished writing this incident four months after incident.

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<v Speaker 1>I I've never told anyone ever, not even my wife,

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<v Speaker 1>until now, about this occurrence. I thought the event of

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<v Speaker 1>over fifty three years ago would be easy to put

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<v Speaker 1>down on paper and ready to send to you in

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of hours. I found, to my surprise that

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<v Speaker 1>I hardly remembered any details at all. But in starting

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<v Speaker 1>to piece it all back together, I was shocked by

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<v Speaker 1>what I remembered concerning the terror I had buried regarding

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<v Speaker 1>this incident so many years ago. Over the last four months,

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<v Speaker 1>things that I hadn't thought about in any detail over

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<v Speaker 1>the last half century fell back into place. Having been

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<v Speaker 1>a counselor, I'm aware that I blocked much of it

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<v Speaker 1>due to trauma, but unplugging the memories started it flooding

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<v Speaker 1>back so fast I could hardly keep up with my faults.

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<v Speaker 1>Worst of all was that I felt like weeping for

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<v Speaker 1>that boy, and the horror, and especially the loneliness of

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<v Speaker 1>this singular night. But be that as it may. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go forward with a little over two years after the

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<v Speaker 1>first incident to when I was seventeen. A few weeks

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<v Speaker 1>before my senior year began, a couple of my friends

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<v Speaker 1>and I were invited by a very close family member, Billy,

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<v Speaker 1>to go hiking through areas of eastern Kentucky from north

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<v Speaker 1>to southeast, in places where we'd never tramped before. At

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<v Speaker 1>that time, there were hardly any inhabited areas in this

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<v Speaker 1>part of the states, and roads were few and far between.

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<v Speaker 1>It was to be a two day trek off trail

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<v Speaker 1>and through the dense woods and steep ravines, not far

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<v Speaker 1>from where the white Thing had been roaming some years earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>but we didn't give it any mind. Only Billy had

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<v Speaker 1>a firearm, the rest of us had hunting knives and hatchets.

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<v Speaker 1>The temperature was over one hundred with near one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent humidity, a typical southern hot and dusty August day

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<v Speaker 1>with a miserable time for such a hike. All the

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<v Speaker 1>creeks we passed were dry. Only the largest creek, Tigert Creek,

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<v Speaker 1>had a good amount of water, whose course constantly doubles

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<v Speaker 1>back on itself. Our ungs were clinging to the roofs

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<v Speaker 1>of our mouths, and we were inhaling hot air and

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<v Speaker 1>exhaling hot air back out using our canteens cause a

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<v Speaker 1>problem as we were going to fill up as we

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<v Speaker 1>went with clear creek water, but as I said, they

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<v Speaker 1>were all dry. We started out in jackets in the

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<v Speaker 1>cool of the early morning, but as the heat quickly rose,

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<v Speaker 1>we soon were shedding down from jackets to shirts to

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<v Speaker 1>T shirts. On we went, snagging our way through heavy

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<v Speaker 1>brier patches, ankle catching vines, tripping over hidden rocks, insects

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<v Speaker 1>die bombing our faces, and gnats doing their best to

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<v Speaker 1>land on our open eyeballs. Finally, at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, Billy decided that we would set up camp

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<v Speaker 1>in a limestone cave set in the side of a

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<v Speaker 1>steep cliff with a clear but small stream of cold

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<v Speaker 1>water running through it. The gurgling brook echoed over and

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<v Speaker 1>over in the small cave. A wide flat stone porch

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<v Speaker 1>in front of the cave overlooked a sixty foot drop

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<v Speaker 1>The cave was in the side of a limestone cliff,

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<v Speaker 1>and I shined my light and checked the drop of

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<v Speaker 1>the cliff from above the cave's position. It was about

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<v Speaker 1>forty feet down from the trail that we had been following.

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<v Speaker 1>Billy chose the cave for its natural cool air conditioning

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<v Speaker 1>due to the damp limestone walls and the running stream

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<v Speaker 1>for a water supply. The old man was a hunter

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<v Speaker 1>and seasoned hiker that knew what he was doing. I

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<v Speaker 1>was sure glad to unload my backpack and sleeping bag

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<v Speaker 1>and quickly lay down before I threw up. I was

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<v Speaker 1>suffering from a pounding headache. I had all the signs

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<v Speaker 1>of heat exhaustion. There was nothing to do but try

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep the horrible pounding headache away. We were whipped,

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<v Speaker 1>so there wasn't much talking around the campfire. We ate

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<v Speaker 1>a late meal, gorged our sh in cold water, and

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<v Speaker 1>then turned in as soon as darkness fell about nine

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<v Speaker 1>thirty PM. I tossed in turn for hours in a

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<v Speaker 1>fitful sleep, but about one am I felt the result

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<v Speaker 1>of all that water. Groggily pulled on my socks and

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<v Speaker 1>gem shoes, buckled my jeans, and went out to water

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<v Speaker 1>the grass. This is the downside of sleeping in a cave.

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<v Speaker 1>We had to walk back up the trail to take

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<v Speaker 1>a leak, and Billy didn't want us to go out

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<v Speaker 1>to the porch edge for fear that we'd be so

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<v Speaker 1>sleepy that we'd likely fall over. It was chilly in

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<v Speaker 1>the cave, much cooler as I stepped up on the

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<v Speaker 1>ground above the cave aways in just my t shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be back in my warm bag in just

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of minutes, though. I had my rail backed

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<v Speaker 1>flashlight and my bowie knife tied on my right leg

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<v Speaker 1>in a low quick draw sheath, both of which my

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<v Speaker 1>dad had made for me. I turned several times and

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<v Speaker 1>finally chose a direction that wouldn't spray in the direction

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<v Speaker 1>I would have to use and the return to the cave.

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<v Speaker 1>Aiming is important. As I was doing my business, the

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<v Speaker 1>great chattering noise brought on the night air suddenly ceased.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt creepy, so I finished as quick as I could.

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<v Speaker 1>The night was clear and the air was cold and damp,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was shivering, so I headed back to my

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping bag where it would be warm. I was still

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<v Speaker 1>in the throes of heat exhaustion, and I stumbled away

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<v Speaker 1>in the wrong direction. After not coming back to the

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<v Speaker 1>trail to the cave for five or ten minutes, I

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<v Speaker 1>knew I had lost my way. I grew a bit

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<v Speaker 1>frantic as I went each way along the cliff and

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't find the small trail over the edge and

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<v Speaker 1>down to the cave. I let out desperate shouts, but

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<v Speaker 1>I got no reply. The loud babbling brook that echoed

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<v Speaker 1>The fall seemed to take forever. I had crashed through

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<v Speaker 1>Thank God for the outstretched limb. Without it, I would

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<v Speaker 1>and my heels hit and jammed in the loose earth.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in for a fast, hard tumble and slide.

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<v Speaker 1>To the rocky bottom of the draw. When I stopped tumbling,

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<v Speaker 1>I lay there, surveying any damage done to my body.

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<v Speaker 1>I was happy to find that, aside from many thorn

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<v Speaker 1>and as soon as I could think, I saw that

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<v Speaker 1>in our cave, but it would have died down by now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't know in which direction to look. I

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<v Speaker 1>walls effectively made this a prison hole. I did try

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<v Speaker 1>to find either or both my flashlight and knife, but

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<v Speaker 1>those two were lost causes needles in a black hay stack.

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<v Speaker 1>I stood there alone in the dark in a steep wedge.

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<v Speaker 1>I struggled over the bottom of the draw in each

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<v Speaker 1>direction for at least an hour. When I heard the

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<v Speaker 1>sound of that of a bear, quieting the forest chatter

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<v Speaker 1>once again. I looked around into the darkness of the

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<v Speaker 1>narrow pit of the mountain. I saw nothing, but felt

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<v Speaker 1>once again that I was being watched by something, and

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<v Speaker 1>I prayed it wouldn't be a cougar or a black

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<v Speaker 1>panther or a bear aside from wolves, or worse, a

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<v Speaker 1>but each time I slid back down on my belly.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to choose the right way back along the

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<v Speaker 1>dimly lit cliff, but I couldn't discern from which side

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<v Speaker 1>I had fallen. Logically, I chose to go down the

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<v Speaker 1>draw following the dried up creek bed, which is all

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<v Speaker 1>I had since it was away from the growl. After

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<v Speaker 1>a long stumbling journey of constantly having to climb over, under,

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<v Speaker 1>and around obstacles without a light or knife in the

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<v Speaker 1>near darkness, I finally came to a break in the

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<v Speaker 1>limestone wall on one side. I stopped and laid my sweaty,

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<v Speaker 1>filthy body over yet another tree, Falling from a bank

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<v Speaker 1>to bank, Gasping for breath with much effort, I used

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<v Speaker 1>sliding two steps down the bank while advancing just three,

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<v Speaker 1>getting filthier and sweatier by the minute. I finally made

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<v Speaker 1>the top edge of the flat on the mountain side,

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<v Speaker 1>and I flopped over above the cliff, and I drew

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<v Speaker 1>in a heavy, damp breath of air. After resting on

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<v Speaker 1>the grimy flat in order to stop wheezing out my lungs,

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<v Speaker 1>I got up and continued to crash through the thorn

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<v Speaker 1>rods and stumble over rocks and depressions covered by dirt,

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<v Speaker 1>gasping for air, sweating in the cold night. When I

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<v Speaker 1>made out a larger game trail, Imagine the fear of

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<v Speaker 1>a skinny one hundred and forty five pound kid, three

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<v Speaker 1>months into his seventeenth birthday, shivering in a filthy, wet

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<v Speaker 1>T shirt, groping through the darkness, almost legally blind and

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<v Speaker 1>not knowing what direction to go. The moon was going down,

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<v Speaker 1>and once again the noise of the forest stopped, but

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<v Speaker 1>this time it stopped around me. My heart was pounding

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<v Speaker 1>through my ribs as I struggled onward. So again all

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<v Speaker 1>I could see were silhouettes of trees and bushes. And

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<v Speaker 1>there in a right hand curve in the trail, looking

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<v Speaker 1>through and over the brush. Standing on each side of

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<v Speaker 1>the game trail were two large back lit figures, one

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<v Speaker 1>slightly taller than the other. They were massive and the

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<v Speaker 1>last thing I wanted to run into. Suddenly, the thought

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<v Speaker 1>of a bear or a cougar was more preferable than

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<v Speaker 1>the pair of things I was looking at now. At first,

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<v Speaker 1>coming up slightly from the side, I thought there were

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<v Speaker 1>two massive black panthers sitting on large boulders because they

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to have cat's ears pulled back to a point

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<v Speaker 1>my knees got weak. The worst possible meeting was about

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<v Speaker 1>to take my life. But as I turned to view

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<v Speaker 1>them straight on, I realized they were not on boulders,

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<v Speaker 1>but things that stood eight to nine feet tall. They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't move but for a small sway. Their heads appeared

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<v Speaker 1>to be directly attached to their three to four feet

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<v Speaker 1>wide shoulders. Whatever they were, if they were looking at

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<v Speaker 1>me at all, I could not tell, and looking back

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<v Speaker 1>on it now, I probably misconstrued their sloping heads for

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<v Speaker 1>possible ears. Them being a pair of sasquatch again never

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<v Speaker 1>even occurred to me until decades later, when sightings became

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<v Speaker 1>more common outside the Northwest. I stood there, shaking as

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<v Speaker 1>my sweat soak body trembled with cold and just plain

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<v Speaker 1>near panic. I then leaned over and put my hands

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<v Speaker 1>on my trim knees to steady myself. I was as

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<v Speaker 1>wet as I could be, covered with a filth of

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<v Speaker 1>many stumble and falls, and I already had had blood

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<v Speaker 1>running down my arms from the briars that had torn

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<v Speaker 1>at them. I had been lost so long, so many hours.

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<v Speaker 1>I was tired and weary. It seemed so unfair to

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<v Speaker 1>be stopped, injured, or even killed. Now I tried so hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it for nothing? I raised my head and gazed

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<v Speaker 1>up at these beasts. I was only about twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>feet from them at this point, but as I stood there,

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<v Speaker 1>I could make out hair and a shadowy face, but

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<v Speaker 1>again no details. It would be four decades later before

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<v Speaker 1>I read about such encounters, and how the creatures almost

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<v Speaker 1>become as still as statues while observing humans, and how

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<v Speaker 1>many people went through exactly what I did. But for now,

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<v Speaker 1>I realized that I was halfway up the mountain. To

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<v Speaker 1>my left were briar patches and wildly tangled brush. To

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<v Speaker 1>my right was empty darkness that meant a cliff's edge.

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<v Speaker 1>I could not go back because I didn't know where

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<v Speaker 1>back was. My strength was not up to it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what would happen if I turned my

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<v Speaker 1>back on them. Why they stood in the brush on

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<v Speaker 1>each side of the trail instead of blocking it. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>never really know. They still swayed slightly in the dead air,

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<v Speaker 1>But as with any predators, I knew that if I

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<v Speaker 1>kept my head about and made no eye contact, perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>they would just look at me as a harmless curiosity.

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<v Speaker 1>As I slowly lowered my head, I got the impression

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<v Speaker 1>that they too might have lowered their heads to better

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<v Speaker 1>watch me. I'm not sure. The path was a good

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<v Speaker 1>three feet wide, so I very slowly made my way

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<v Speaker 1>towards these two things. I wanted to look up and

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<v Speaker 1>see what kind of beasts they were, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>my first thought was correct, and I kept looking down.

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<v Speaker 1>As I stepped closer. I wanted to scream and run

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<v Speaker 1>for it. All either of them had to do was

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<v Speaker 1>crush my head like a grape. The forest was dead still,

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<v Speaker 1>and it came to me that they could have been

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<v Speaker 1>stalking me all through the night as of now, though

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed as eternity was marked in slow inches. But

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<v Speaker 1>in the end I was permitted to pass unharmed. I

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<v Speaker 1>looked neither right or left or back and neither did

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<v Speaker 1>I raise my head. I didn't realize that their feet

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<v Speaker 1>were partially on the trail, but I couldn't make them

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<v Speaker 1>out in the gloom. After passing by them, I quickened

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<v Speaker 1>my pace until the beautiful night's noises began again. I

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<v Speaker 1>must state that even passing by within a foot of

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<v Speaker 1>these things, I smelled nothing beyond my own sweaty stink.

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<v Speaker 1>I walked on for an hour or so and finally

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<v Speaker 1>hit Tigert's. I collapsed forward on all fours into the creek,

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<v Speaker 1>putting my mouth under and slurping up water through my

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<v Speaker 1>parched lips like there was no tomorrow. I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a canteen, but this time I followed the creek opposite

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<v Speaker 1>its flow to keep my thirst quenched. And within a

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<v Speaker 1>few hours I heard a lone truck's moan just south

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<v Speaker 1>of the creek. I stumbled about five hundred feet in

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<v Speaker 1>that direction upon an east west highway. I tried to

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<v Speaker 1>flag down the four or five passing cars and trucks

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<v Speaker 1>at that early hour, but looking at myself, I hardly

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<v Speaker 1>looked human in my totally filthy condition. I then walked

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<v Speaker 1>what turned out to be over five or six miles

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<v Speaker 1>until I flagged down a cruiser and told the deputy

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<v Speaker 1>of my plight. He drove me clear back to the

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<v Speaker 1>farm where we'd started out from the day before. Several

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<v Speaker 1>hours later, a car pulled up outside and out the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the team jumped out and shouted with relief.

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<v Speaker 1>They had been searching for me, and we simply had

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<v Speaker 1>a tremendous emotional release from the worst night of my

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<v Speaker 1>life thus far. But the really bad part was that Billy,

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<v Speaker 1>who led us in whom I hunted with several times,

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<v Speaker 1>never allowed me to go out in the woods with

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<v Speaker 1>him again. Until now, I hardly remembered any of this incident,

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<v Speaker 1>having just told one of my friends at the time

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<v Speaker 1>about spotting the creatures, but he just told me I

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<v Speaker 1>was hallucinating from the terrified time that I had had.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's very clear that God and God alone spared me.

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<v Speaker 1>This friend, even though it was fifty four years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>still refers to it as the night that you went crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>But those of us who were there know better, and

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<v Speaker 1>I never ever mentioned it again, not even to my

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<v Speaker 1>wife until we were listening to many of your people's tales.

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<v Speaker 1>Be it as it may, until now, I hadn't realized that,

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<v Speaker 1>aside from mentioning, I had gotten lost in the woods

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<v Speaker 1>and fell from a cliff. I never ever had thought

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<v Speaker 1>about this in such minute detail until the last few

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<v Speaker 1>months of piecing it all back together using twenty twenty hindsight.

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<v Speaker 1>Having studied everything about Bigfoot for over fifty years and

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<v Speaker 1>listening to others' run ends with Bigfoot, I wonder there

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<v Speaker 1>were all of those sudden silences as I fought my

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<v Speaker 1>way out of the untangled forest, forcing me to flee

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<v Speaker 1>in the opposite direction of the growls. Could it be

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<v Speaker 1>that the creatures were just hurting me, making sure that

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<v Speaker 1>I would take the right path out of the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>Once I hit Tiger Creek, there were no more silences

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<v Speaker 1>or growls. I just don't know. And now incident number

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<v Speaker 1>three November two thousand and fourteen, and the Gentleman was

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<v Speaker 1>sixty five years old. I was speaking with a local

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<v Speaker 1>author who had a popular bestseller, whom I had asked

421
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<v Speaker 1>to sign a copy of his book for my daughter

422
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<v Speaker 1>in law. While passing the usual small talk, we got

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<v Speaker 1>on the subject of strange tales, and I told him

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<v Speaker 1>of the talk I had overheard the ranger tell when

425
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<v Speaker 1>I was in the Scouts back an incident number one.

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<v Speaker 1>When he finished listening to my tale, he asked if

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to come to a meeting of the

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<v Speaker 1>Carter County Bigfoot Research Group in Grand Kentucky and listen

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<v Speaker 1>to others encounter stories and retell my story of the

430
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<v Speaker 1>white thing for the group. I was glad to go,

431
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<v Speaker 1>but why that minor tale seemed important to him? I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know. That evening I heard a lot of great

433
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<v Speaker 1>stories from farmers, a doctor, and other professional people. The

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<v Speaker 1>author then told the group that they should listen to

435
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<v Speaker 1>my story as it would be of great interest to

436
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<v Speaker 1>them all. After completing the story, there was some silence,

437
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<v Speaker 1>and then the group's leader explained that there had been

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<v Speaker 1>a white bigfoot around eastern Carter for decades, but that

439
00:27:02.119 --> 00:27:06.000
<v Speaker 1>this was the oldest confirmed story with dates and details

440
00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:10.359
<v Speaker 1>they had heard about from so long ago. I reiterated

441
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<v Speaker 1>that I didn't know if it was a bigfoot, since

442
00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:15.960
<v Speaker 1>at the time it was just described as some kind

443
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<v Speaker 1>of large white thing. They went on to tell many

444
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<v Speaker 1>more stories of this old white bigfoot, two of which

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<v Speaker 1>a woman also recounted some five years later for a

446
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<v Speaker 1>local newspaper. I've included two quotes from that newspaper, and

447
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<v Speaker 1>here's quote number one. The title of the article is

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<v Speaker 1>Carter County Bigfoot Regional Sightings prompt Questions. The author of

449
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<v Speaker 1>the article is Jeremy Wells. The publication is the Grayson

450
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<v Speaker 1>Journal Times, dated February six, twenty nineteen, and here's the quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Other sites online, including Kentucky hunting dot Net, also record

452
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<v Speaker 1>sightings from the area around Carter Caves, including a supposedly

453
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<v Speaker 1>all white bigfoot that the person reporting the sighting was

454
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<v Speaker 1>nicknamed Big John, who reportedly liked to eat from the

455
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<v Speaker 1>lodge's dumpsters, but naturalists at the park have stated that

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<v Speaker 1>they are not familiar with any reported sightings from the

457
00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:23.079
<v Speaker 1>park or the lodge. The next article is also by

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<v Speaker 1>the same writer's same publication, and that the title of

459
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:31.039
<v Speaker 1>the article is Grand Squatching Bigfoot meet Up draws witnesses

460
00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:35.440
<v Speaker 1>and the curious, and the article reads like this. Once

461
00:28:35.519 --> 00:28:39.680
<v Speaker 1>she Tabitha Siegel, started investigating, she found out that there

462
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<v Speaker 1>are sightings dating back to the nineteen sixties and earlier,

463
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<v Speaker 1>and one hair raising tail a young man riding a

464
00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:51.160
<v Speaker 1>mopad after dark had a bike stall on him as

465
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<v Speaker 1>he was trying to get it started he glanced at

466
00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:56.400
<v Speaker 1>his side mirror and saw a tall creature covered in

467
00:28:56.480 --> 00:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>white hair coming up the road behind him. With this

468
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:02.960
<v Speaker 1>this extra motivation to get moving, the young man was

469
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<v Speaker 1>able to get his bike to turn over and fled

470
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:10.160
<v Speaker 1>the area without looking back. So at last, after fifty

471
00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:12.960
<v Speaker 1>four years, I finally was able to put a face

472
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<v Speaker 1>on the creature from back in my scouting days. And

473
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<v Speaker 1>here is incident for the last incident. It's dated February

474
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<v Speaker 1>twenty fifteen, and he is sixty six years old. At

475
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<v Speaker 1>this time, I had purchased a farm on fifty five

476
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<v Speaker 1>acres of mostly forest in nineteen ninety three. The property

477
00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:38.079
<v Speaker 1>was twenty five hundred feet deep and sixty eight hundred

478
00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:42.039
<v Speaker 1>feet wide and locked into all of my other family's properties.

479
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>We all used the combined area for hunting and simply

480
00:29:46.039 --> 00:29:49.240
<v Speaker 1>to enjoy the woods. A lot of people from out

481
00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:51.480
<v Speaker 1>of state would come in just to get a big

482
00:29:51.519 --> 00:29:54.440
<v Speaker 1>buck in its rack, and it was common knowledge that

483
00:29:54.519 --> 00:29:57.640
<v Speaker 1>I wanted deer to butcher and didn't care about the rack.

484
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<v Speaker 1>Since we have never been on a high side of income.

485
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<v Speaker 1>We eat lots of game, rabbit, squirrel, and of course deer.

486
00:30:05.559 --> 00:30:08.559
<v Speaker 1>The hunters would feel dress them so all the skinning

487
00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:12.039
<v Speaker 1>and butchering was up to my wife and I. When

488
00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:15.200
<v Speaker 1>we had to dispose of the rest of the head, hide, bones,

489
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<v Speaker 1>and bits of meat. I had a certain place that

490
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:21.039
<v Speaker 1>I dumped the remains. It was about five to six

491
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:24.319
<v Speaker 1>hundred feet out back of our barn. It was at

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<v Speaker 1>the base of a small ledge overlooking a creek bottom.

493
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<v Speaker 1>There were tracks in the mud on both sides of

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<v Speaker 1>My Creek, a tributary of Upper Tigert Creek. My home

495
00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:38.839
<v Speaker 1>is about sixteen miles from my nineteen sixty six adventure.

496
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<v Speaker 1>There are many prints of animals that I can identify,

497
00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:46.880
<v Speaker 1>very large and small, from possum, squirrel, rabbit, raccoon, to

498
00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:52.160
<v Speaker 1>mountain lion and an occasional bear. I've done this for decades,

499
00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:55.680
<v Speaker 1>which lent to one mystery. I would come back to

500
00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:59.720
<v Speaker 1>dump other carcasses and the ones before would be totally gone,

501
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:04.319
<v Speaker 1>usually within eighteen to twenty four hours. I've seen what

502
00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:08.359
<v Speaker 1>happens when dogs, codies, lines, and black panthers get into them.

503
00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:12.039
<v Speaker 1>The remains are strewn about and with only bones or

504
00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:14.640
<v Speaker 1>bits of meat or left. But that is not the

505
00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:19.359
<v Speaker 1>case now. There was nothing left of almost sixty carcasses.

506
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I dropped back there. So after twenty five years, I

507
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:26.440
<v Speaker 1>finally got curious enough to borrow my son's trail cam

508
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:30.519
<v Speaker 1>and change things around. I stacked the remains of the

509
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:33.480
<v Speaker 1>deer on the flat overlook of the creek, just above

510
00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:37.039
<v Speaker 1>the area in which I tossed the remains. I then

511
00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:39.920
<v Speaker 1>placed the trail cam about eight feet up a tree

512
00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:42.640
<v Speaker 1>on the side of a bank, which placed it about

513
00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:46.920
<v Speaker 1>four feet above the level of the flat rock. Here

514
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:49.839
<v Speaker 1>it couldn't be reached by anyone without a step ladder

515
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:54.079
<v Speaker 1>or be quickly noticed by any game. Then I came

516
00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:57.200
<v Speaker 1>back the next day, all that load of remains was

517
00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:01.240
<v Speaker 1>gone right down to the dirt. When I excitedly took

518
00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:04.039
<v Speaker 1>the camera down and rushed it home, all I had

519
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:06.920
<v Speaker 1>was a photo of me putting the camera up, then

520
00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:09.519
<v Speaker 1>a second from the next day when I took it down.

521
00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:13.119
<v Speaker 1>What in the world happened to all the other photos

522
00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:16.359
<v Speaker 1>that should have been taken. I checked the camera when

523
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I took it down, and it hadn't been disturbed. In fact,

524
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:23.240
<v Speaker 1>you really had to look for it. It was concealed

525
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:27.880
<v Speaker 1>very well. During this time, there seemed to be nightly

526
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:32.079
<v Speaker 1>noises and movements around our house. I've caught possums and

527
00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:35.079
<v Speaker 1>coons around here, so I took the trail camera and

528
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:37.799
<v Speaker 1>placed it twenty feet behind the house in a tree

529
00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:41.240
<v Speaker 1>on top of a six foot cutaway bank about five

530
00:32:41.279 --> 00:32:45.000
<v Speaker 1>feet up the tree. That put the camera at twelve

531
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:48.559
<v Speaker 1>feet above my driveway looking at the back of the house,

532
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:52.359
<v Speaker 1>so there was no way to step around this tree.

533
00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:55.599
<v Speaker 1>I wanted that so that no curious possum or coon

534
00:32:55.640 --> 00:32:58.480
<v Speaker 1>could climb around the lens. And then set it up

535
00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:00.599
<v Speaker 1>and I focused it on the back of the house,

536
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:04.440
<v Speaker 1>the parking area, and the edge of my garage. The

537
00:33:04.519 --> 00:33:07.839
<v Speaker 1>tree had no limbs below or around the camera for

538
00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:11.079
<v Speaker 1>a bird to light. The only toe hold was a

539
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:14.160
<v Speaker 1>five inch ledge that allowed me to reach up and

540
00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>hang the camera. These photos begin on the eleventh of

541
00:33:18.279 --> 00:33:22.880
<v Speaker 1>February in twenty fifteen, at about eight pm. The days

542
00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:25.759
<v Speaker 1>were in the thirties during the day and twenties at night,

543
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:28.319
<v Speaker 1>so that thin crust of ice froze on top of

544
00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:32.160
<v Speaker 1>the snow. Understand that this camera was a low light

545
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:36.039
<v Speaker 1>there was no flash involved. In the first picture, you

546
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:39.160
<v Speaker 1>can see me jumping down the short ledge after I

547
00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:43.559
<v Speaker 1>installed it. The next picture was taken about six pm

548
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:48.839
<v Speaker 1>on February thirteenth, twenty fifteen, of my wife's return from town.

549
00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:53.640
<v Speaker 1>See the ice reflecting off the lights. The next photo,

550
00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:59.000
<v Speaker 1>also dated February thirteenth, is of just blackness. It's not included.

551
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:01.839
<v Speaker 1>The shutter went off, but something appears to be blocking

552
00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:04.640
<v Speaker 1>the lens. But nothing could prepare me for the photo

553
00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:09.760
<v Speaker 1>taken next. There's a tremendous white shine around it, and

554
00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:13.440
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't appear to be anything blurry, and in truth,

555
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:17.159
<v Speaker 1>it seems that the mystery picture is in focus, displaying

556
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:23.480
<v Speaker 1>at least muscle, eyelids and blood veins, doesn't it or what? Well,

557
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:26.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at that photo right here, and I don't

558
00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:32.679
<v Speaker 1>see anything. I just see an overexposed. It could be hair,

559
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:36.360
<v Speaker 1>and it looks like white hair if it is hair.

560
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:41.079
<v Speaker 1>But I really can't tell what this is, so he asked,

561
00:34:41.079 --> 00:34:43.239
<v Speaker 1>what is it? I've had dozens of people view it

562
00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:46.559
<v Speaker 1>in the last five years without luck. A white owl

563
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:49.239
<v Speaker 1>was kicked around by some people, but the owl would

564
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:52.239
<v Speaker 1>have to hover to get this image. The kicker here

565
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:55.440
<v Speaker 1>is there were and still are no white horses in

566
00:34:55.480 --> 00:34:58.760
<v Speaker 1>this area. But the last photo also seems to have

567
00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:03.360
<v Speaker 1>something to tell. The lens caught a really large flash

568
00:35:03.559 --> 00:35:06.280
<v Speaker 1>and then it was gone, the next shot being another

569
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:10.519
<v Speaker 1>black streak. Again, there is no outside light other than

570
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:13.719
<v Speaker 1>the above back door. I say again, the camera has

571
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:17.000
<v Speaker 1>only a low light lens. The light had to be

572
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:19.800
<v Speaker 1>from an outside source, and no animal that I know

573
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:23.360
<v Speaker 1>of is internally lit. Although my wife thinks it might

574
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:27.079
<v Speaker 1>be an angel horse that floats above the ground. It's

575
00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:29.960
<v Speaker 1>as good a guess as any. The last thing the

576
00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:34.079
<v Speaker 1>camera caught was almost as mysterious as the shining animal.

577
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:37.639
<v Speaker 1>There was a tremendous flash, and the final photo is

578
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:41.320
<v Speaker 1>black and I'm looking at I'm looking at just a

579
00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:47.679
<v Speaker 1>white over exposed photo here. Do you have any idea

580
00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:50.480
<v Speaker 1>what this thing is? It's also been speculated that it

581
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:53.239
<v Speaker 1>could be a twelve foot tall bigfoot, face turned back

582
00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:57.639
<v Speaker 1>toward the camera, perhaps looking over its left shoulder. It

583
00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:00.679
<v Speaker 1>is of the eck andeers of sorts instead of an eye,

584
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:03.880
<v Speaker 1>but I just don't know. However, as I said before,

585
00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:06.159
<v Speaker 1>there was a thin glaze of ice over an inch

586
00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:09.000
<v Speaker 1>of snow, and nothing could have walked around that tree

587
00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:12.239
<v Speaker 1>without leaving places where a foot would have crushed in

588
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:15.519
<v Speaker 1>its crust. This is the first thing that I thought

589
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:18.280
<v Speaker 1>of after this was to look for any prints because

590
00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:22.519
<v Speaker 1>hoofs would have broken through and there weren't any. Again,

591
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I had mounted that camera over the edge of a

592
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:27.559
<v Speaker 1>little edge. If a horse had stood behind the tree

593
00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:30.119
<v Speaker 1>and twisted its neck around the thin ice would have

594
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:33.320
<v Speaker 1>been broken. Aside from leaving dozens of other hoof prints,

595
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:37.679
<v Speaker 1>I have no further ideas. And then the gentleman goes

596
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:41.440
<v Speaker 1>on to ask for anonymity, and he gives me his

597
00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:44.440
<v Speaker 1>name and phone number and all those things. So that

598
00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:48.119
<v Speaker 1>was a long story, and I did not a lot

599
00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:50.079
<v Speaker 1>of these stories. I do a little bit of editing

600
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:54.679
<v Speaker 1>to make them a little more I don't know, to

601
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:57.800
<v Speaker 1>follow a line of a story. You kind of getting

602
00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:02.719
<v Speaker 1>all these pages back together here, But that's what I do.

603
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:05.280
<v Speaker 1>But I didn't on this one because this man had

604
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:08.679
<v Speaker 1>spent a lot of time putting this together and me

605
00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:12.119
<v Speaker 1>not being able to see anything in these photos. I'm

606
00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:15.760
<v Speaker 1>not making fun of him or you know, I'm not

607
00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:18.719
<v Speaker 1>being ugly about it. I just don't see anything in

608
00:37:18.760 --> 00:37:20.920
<v Speaker 1>the photos. It just looks like a house and some

609
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:23.760
<v Speaker 1>people and you know, some blurry things, and it could

610
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:26.320
<v Speaker 1>be anything. I mean, it could be anything to set

611
00:37:26.360 --> 00:37:28.679
<v Speaker 1>off the lens of the camera, and if they're right

612
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:30.519
<v Speaker 1>in front of it. It's just going to pick up,

613
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:34.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, some blurry over exposed hair or fur or whatever.

614
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:37.440
<v Speaker 1>So I don't think they show anything, so I'm not

615
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:40.840
<v Speaker 1>going to show them. But I appreciated the story. I

616
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:46.239
<v Speaker 1>think his tale of getting lost was spectacular, and walking

617
00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:51.199
<v Speaker 1>right walking right by to bigfoot is oh, that's unreal.

618
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:53.800
<v Speaker 1>And then the tale of the that the ranger told

619
00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:57.480
<v Speaker 1>the scout masters was pretty good. So Carter k the

620
00:37:57.519 --> 00:38:01.639
<v Speaker 1>Carter Caves area in eastern Kino, Luckie must be a

621
00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:04.480
<v Speaker 1>big white bigfoot rider around there. Thank you to the

622
00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:07.079
<v Speaker 1>writer for taking so much time in mailing me this,

623
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<v Speaker 1>and I really appreciate it.
