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<v Speaker 1>Sam Harris.

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<v Speaker 2>It is hilarious to be a guy who runs a

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<v Speaker 2>meditation app and he spends half the time telling people

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<v Speaker 2>about breathing and the other half of the time telling

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<v Speaker 2>people that we need to bomb as many children as

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<v Speaker 2>humanly possible until Israel feels comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I texted him.

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<v Speaker 3>So's if a Tim Dillon at the Brilliant Comedian think

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<v Speaker 3>about how Sam Harris is a meditation app.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't even know that.

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<v Speaker 3>So by days he's a meditation guru and by night

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<v Speaker 3>he's encouraging black carbon bombing your children.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't want everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now to breathe.

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<v Speaker 5>What we need to do is indiscriminately bombing children.

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<v Speaker 4>Manifest reality. You want to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Did people from Gaza still live there?

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there fire in it? Oh, it's a righteous fire

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<v Speaker 1>and it burns bright.

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<v Speaker 6>Beyond a mountain right now with me the night Skuy's

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<v Speaker 6>lit up stars and drone strikes.

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<v Speaker 4>I want you to breathe with me and hear the screams.

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<v Speaker 7>Understand it's necessary, Believe it or not, that's true. Sam

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<v Speaker 7>Harris does in fact have a meditation app. I don't

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<v Speaker 7>know if I've ever used it, but I remember I

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<v Speaker 7>used to listen to his podcast back when he had

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<v Speaker 7>launched it, so it's been very successful. So yes, Tim

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<v Speaker 7>Dillon is correct in between his diatribes where he declares

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<v Speaker 7>that Hamas must be flattened and anybody that gets in

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<v Speaker 7>the way is the responsibility of Hamas doesn't really matter.

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<v Speaker 7>Just pick up your meditation app and you'll feel fine

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<v Speaker 7>about the mass destruction that you're advocating on behalf of

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<v Speaker 7>it is remarkable, and I'm grateful that there are people

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<v Speaker 7>like Tim Dillon out there that can be honest about

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<v Speaker 7>this stuff. What I find most fascinating and what I

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<v Speaker 7>think is really ties together some of the topics that

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<v Speaker 7>I've been covering as of late. It really just requires

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<v Speaker 7>rational logical thought to come to the conclusions that you

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<v Speaker 7>and I usually do. That's the primary reason that Jordan Peterson,

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<v Speaker 7>James Lindsay, Constantin Kissen, others have come out very aggressively

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<v Speaker 7>with this label where either we're psychopaths or we're woke

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<v Speaker 7>right or whatever. It's like, well, if you can't contend

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<v Speaker 7>with our arguments, you better just smear us as something

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<v Speaker 7>and hope that our audiences run the other direction. The

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<v Speaker 7>problem being that your audiences are actually running the other direction,

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<v Speaker 7>because the logic of the claim that you're attempting to

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<v Speaker 7>make is garbage. Also, we have the funny people on

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<v Speaker 7>our side. We've got Tim Dillon, we've got Dave Smith,

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<v Speaker 7>we've got Joe Rogan, we've got the Ovonne. We've got

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<v Speaker 7>basically all of the top comics more or less. And

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<v Speaker 7>it doesn't end there. We don't just have the top comics.

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<v Speaker 7>We also have the top political commentators, Dave Smith being

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<v Speaker 7>one of them, and Tucker Carlson who had on good

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<v Speaker 7>Friend of the show Dave Smith just a couple days ago,

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<v Speaker 7>and it was nothing revelatory, but I did think that

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<v Speaker 7>there was one interesting part of it which I'm going

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<v Speaker 7>to play for you now.

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<v Speaker 5>He was clearly saying that you guys on podcasts are

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<v Speaker 5>simply not qualified to talk about these subjects. Now you're

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<v Speaker 5>saying this on the Joe Rogan experience, of all places

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<v Speaker 5>to go and deliver this message, this is the place

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<v Speaker 5>guarantee to turn the entire audience against you. And of

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<v Speaker 5>course I just think that I think it's a it's

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<v Speaker 5>a ridiculous non argument that never would have made sense.

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<v Speaker 5>But coming off of the COVID years, the idea that

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<v Speaker 5>you're going to convince people that you ought to kind

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<v Speaker 5>of they they ought to trust your opinions, They ought

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<v Speaker 5>to that your class ought to be trusted was a ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's not in that class.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, no, I know Douglas, and I think that

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<v Speaker 3>I always gotten along with him, and I think that

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<v Speaker 3>he's clever. But he's clever in a boarding school way.

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<v Speaker 3>He went to boarding school as I did, and you

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<v Speaker 3>instantly recognize it in the way that he debates, which

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<v Speaker 3>is by dropping references that suggest deeperry edition that doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>actually exist. I think he's clever, he's got a kind

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<v Speaker 3>of bullshitty boarding school vibe to him. Again that I

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<v Speaker 3>recognize that I have sometimes right, so I'm not, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>not trying to be holier than now. But like they did,

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<v Speaker 3>that he's an expert is absurd. So Dave's obviously right

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<v Speaker 3>about that.

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<v Speaker 7>It was as I, as I said in my coverage

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<v Speaker 7>right after the debate, it was just a terrible, terrible

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<v Speaker 7>idea to try and argue that you have to be

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<v Speaker 7>an expert to go on a podcast and make an

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<v Speaker 7>argument against a war, for instance, doing it on the

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<v Speaker 7>Joe Rogan experience, of all places, was a catastrophic misstep.

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<v Speaker 7>This is why I came to the conclusion that ultimately

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<v Speaker 7>Douglas was a mercenary. He was going in there doing

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<v Speaker 7>the bidding of his donors, not so much of his

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<v Speaker 7>own logical mind. He was doing it because of his pocketbook,

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<v Speaker 7>not because of his intelligence. He suffered the reputational hit

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<v Speaker 7>as a consequence of that, but in the aftermath he

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<v Speaker 7>had a tweet put out from the President of the

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<v Speaker 7>United States, Donald Trump saying, everybody pick up my good

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<v Speaker 7>friend Douglas's book.

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<v Speaker 1>And the best I know.

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<v Speaker 7>His book has become a top seller immediately as a

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<v Speaker 7>consequence of that. So he got his payday, but he

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<v Speaker 7>did take reputational damage as a consequence of that. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>not the only one that feels that way. Here's what

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<v Speaker 7>Tucker had to say.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that that Murray thought he was administering the

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<v Speaker 3>kill shot. I think that's what it was supposed to be,

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<v Speaker 3>but the opposite happened. It's like, and not to brag.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew this as I was watching it. I was

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<v Speaker 3>like Davis about to become way more famous, but not

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<v Speaker 3>just famous, more authoritative, more respected, more closely listened to

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<v Speaker 3>than ever before.

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<v Speaker 1>Has that been your expense?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's essentially just done nothing

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<v Speaker 5>except make me bigger, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Or you did you pay Douglas to do that?

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<v Speaker 4>I did not.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't have that to fight I wish I had.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm doing okay. I don't have money like that. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't have buy off Douglas Murray money.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Got think it would take to kill shot.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a very specific descriptor for what he expected to

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<v Speaker 7>see transpire during that debate. I think that there's a

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<v Speaker 7>reason Tucker's saying that. He may not be explicit about it,

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<v Speaker 7>but I'll try and translate for you, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 7>most of you feel the same way about it. I

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<v Speaker 7>think that Douglas Murty was employed to go in there

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<v Speaker 7>and wreck Dave Smith, to destroy his argument, to destroy

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<v Speaker 7>his narrative because it has been very, very damaging to

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<v Speaker 7>the pro Israel side. And the fact that Tucker is

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<v Speaker 7>willing to say that tells me that he knows that

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<v Speaker 7>there are ideological mercenaries, there are paid spokespeople for the

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<v Speaker 7>military industrial complex or foreign countries or whatever you want

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<v Speaker 7>to describe it as. But he's not He's not really

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<v Speaker 7>beaten around the bush there. I mean a kill shot.

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<v Speaker 7>That's not Oh. I think Douglas expected to go in

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<v Speaker 7>there and just kind of mop the floor with you.

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<v Speaker 7>That'd be an expectation of you know, I'm just I'm

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<v Speaker 7>overly credentialed compared to the stand up comic. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 7>stand a chance against me. That's not what Tucker Carlson said.

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<v Speaker 7>He said kill shot as in, I'm going to ruin

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<v Speaker 7>your career and I'm going to ruin your arguments against

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<v Speaker 7>this war.

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<v Speaker 1>And he didn't do that.

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<v Speaker 7>Basically, the only people that came out of that debate

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<v Speaker 7>thinking that he did that were the people that already

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<v Speaker 7>agreed with him wholeheartedly.

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<v Speaker 1>So why exactly is this such a I have alarm fire.

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<v Speaker 8>The Middle East is filled with terroists and terroist regimes.

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<v Speaker 8>Americans do not like Iran and the regime that runs it.

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<v Speaker 4>They're terrorists.

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<v Speaker 8>They keep threatening to destroy us and our friends, the Israelis.

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<v Speaker 8>They're trying to get nuclear weapons and put them on

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<v Speaker 8>intercontinental ballistic missiles.

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<v Speaker 1>We reject it.

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<v Speaker 8>I speak for tens of millions of red blooded Americans.

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<v Speaker 8>I speak for Christians and Jews and others alike. This

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<v Speaker 8>is the view of the American people. That's number one.

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<v Speaker 8>Americans hate Hamas.

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<v Speaker 7>This is the view of the American people. Imagine the

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<v Speaker 7>audacity in saying something like that. I don't even think

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<v Speaker 7>I ever attempt to speak for libertarians, much less all Americans.

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<v Speaker 7>And he's going, this is the view of the American people. No,

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<v Speaker 7>actually it's not, Mark, but I'll let you wrap up.

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<v Speaker 9>We hate terrorists, butchers Nazis. We hate men that kill babies,

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<v Speaker 9>that decapitate babies, that rate women and burn people alive,

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<v Speaker 9>and attack young teenagers at festivals.

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<v Speaker 8>We hate them, We despise them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we do hate people that kill babies. Mark.

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<v Speaker 7>Unfortunately, there have been babies killed on both sides, and

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<v Speaker 7>actually a lot more on one side than the other,

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<v Speaker 7>which is kind of why I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 7>funding any of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, this is really complex.

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<v Speaker 8>If only Israel, what except the Kalestinian status and conditions

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<v Speaker 8>of Saudi Arabia joining the Abraham Accords. If that's a condition,

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<v Speaker 8>then who cares? If they join the Abraham Accords.

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<v Speaker 9>Accept the cease fire with Qatar funded Hamas or Hamas

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<v Speaker 9>you see.

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<v Speaker 8>Can rebuild and strike Israel again, that's not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 8>Whether Katar likes it or not accept the deal with

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<v Speaker 8>the RAND that does not fully dismantle their nuclear program,

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<v Speaker 8>that better dan will not happen either.

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<v Speaker 7>So those three items that he lists there are all

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<v Speaker 7>things that are happening right now according to the latest

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<v Speaker 7>reports on Trump's negotiations with Katar, Iran, and Humas. I

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<v Speaker 7>don't think it's an accident that Mark Levin listed all

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<v Speaker 7>of those things. That's pretty coincidental, if so. But essentially

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<v Speaker 7>the reason that there's been such an uproar from Shapiro

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<v Speaker 7>and Levin and others is that Trump appears to be

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<v Speaker 7>negotiating without the Israelis present, that he is essentially going

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<v Speaker 7>his own way. And this is something that I can't

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<v Speaker 7>remember ever seeing an American president do, and I certainly

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<v Speaker 7>can't remember an American president who took one hundred million

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<v Speaker 7>dollars from the Atolsn's turning around and saying, you guys

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<v Speaker 7>are actually an impediment to peace. You're preventing me from

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<v Speaker 7>accomplishing the things that I think that I can. And

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<v Speaker 7>Trump is going all in, and I look, I may

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<v Speaker 7>be I may have mud on my face. Seventy two

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<v Speaker 7>hours from now, but as of now Trump appears to

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<v Speaker 7>be sincerely cutting the Israelis out because he has realized

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<v Speaker 7>that they are in fact not helping him. They are

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<v Speaker 7>hindrance to getting a peace process done on all of

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<v Speaker 7>these fronts. The punnets that you would expect to be

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<v Speaker 7>panicking are panicking. I'll play you this speech in just

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<v Speaker 7>a second. Before I do, let's hear from Glenn Greenwald

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<v Speaker 7>as to whether or not we should actually fear orran.

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<v Speaker 10>Twenty years that we have heard over and over everything

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<v Speaker 10>about Iran, that Professor Jersehi, which is trying to scare

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<v Speaker 10>you into believing that they're just about to get nuclear weapons.

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<v Speaker 10>They are weeks away, they are months away. We have

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<v Speaker 10>to go bomb them. This is not something that only

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<v Speaker 10>began recently. In fact, we've been hearing this exact same

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<v Speaker 10>thing for twenty years and none of it ever came true.

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<v Speaker 10>So you should decide tonight whether there's any reason after

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<v Speaker 10>hearing this for twenty years, you're now suddenly willing to

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<v Speaker 10>to go start a new war with Iran. Jeffrey Goldberg,

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<v Speaker 10>Atlantic called The Point of No Return in two thousand ten,

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<v Speaker 10>where he told Americans it was more than fifty percent

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<v Speaker 10>likely that the Israelis were about to go bomb Iran

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<v Speaker 10>in the next three months, because they didn't have more

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<v Speaker 10>can go all the way back to two thousand and five,

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<v Speaker 10>where NBC News reported the following this is two thousand

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<v Speaker 10>and five, twenty years ago. Quote Israel should take quote

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<v Speaker 10>bold and courageous action against archfo Iran's nuclear program The

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<v Speaker 10>New York Times. In twenty twelve, President Benjamin Yetnaw, who

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<v Speaker 10>have Israel, told the UN that Iran's capability to enrich

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<v Speaker 10>uranium must be stopped before next spring or early summer,

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<v Speaker 10>arguing that by the time the country will be in

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<v Speaker 10>nuclear weapons. Raiders in twenty fifteen CBS and twenty eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, we're only months away.

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<v Speaker 10>We have for sure these intelligence photos with a big

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<v Speaker 10>discovered is where Iran is about to proliferate their new

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<v Speaker 10>It's been happening over and over that you've been lied

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<v Speaker 10>to you for twenty years. Why would you suddenly believe

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<v Speaker 10>it and support a new war against a country that's

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<v Speaker 10>three times as large as a rock, risking all of

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<v Speaker 10>the major escalation and instability and huge war that we

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<v Speaker 7>That's a fantastic question, mister Greenwold. Why should we believe

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<v Speaker 7>it this time? Well, just to prove to you that

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<v Speaker 7>this is happening yet again, let's listen to Fox News

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<v Speaker 11>They are satellite images revealing the location of a previously

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<v Speaker 11>unknown around in nuclear site. Now the facility spans nearly

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<v Speaker 11>twenty five hundred acres and this.

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<v Speaker 4>Is a big discovery. Jillian Turner has more from the

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<v Speaker 4>State Department. Good morning, Jillian.

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<v Speaker 11>Pretty explosive data. These satellite images that we have obtained

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<v Speaker 11>exclusively show the alleged site location and even the layout

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<v Speaker 11>of the secret, previously unknown nuclear weapons facilities inside around. This,

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<v Speaker 11>of course, raises fresh concerns about the regime's role in

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<v Speaker 11>these ongoing nuclear talks with the Trump administration. The National

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<v Speaker 11>Council Resistance of Iran has collected intelligence from sources on

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<v Speaker 11>the ground inside Iran that locate this nuclear weapons facility

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<v Speaker 11>and what is called Seen Non province, far from the

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<v Speaker 11>regime's already known nuclear sites. It's code named the Rainbow

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<v Speaker 11>Site by Iran's officials, and it spans nearly twenty five

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<v Speaker 11>for over a decade, under the cover of a chemical

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, it's a rainbow site. Perhaps there's a pot of

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<v Speaker 7>you'd have to believe. On top of that, it's twenty

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<v Speaker 7>five hundred acres and you've just discovered it, and it's

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<v Speaker 7>been functioning for over a decade, despite there being inspectors

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<v Speaker 7>that have been allowed in many years during that period. Really, really,

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<v Speaker 7>we're going to buy that? Well, I'm not. Look, I

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<v Speaker 7>think there's a distinct pot stability. The Iranians want nuclear weapons.

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<v Speaker 7>Why wouldn't they. It's like North Korea. As soon as

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<v Speaker 7>they got them, the threat of being overthrown or invaded

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<v Speaker 7>diminished significantly after Gaddafi gave up his nuclear ambitions. He

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<v Speaker 7>was then taken in the streets and brutalized. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>trying to negotiate the Iranian leadership into not wanting nuclear

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<v Speaker 7>weapons is going to be a major challenge, and you're

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<v Speaker 7>going to have to They're going to have to believe

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<v Speaker 7>that an invasion and toppling is imminent if they proceed.

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<v Speaker 7>So I guess that's the argument here. But it doesn't

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<v Speaker 7>seem as if Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin and others

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<v Speaker 7>are just looking for there to be peace. It looks

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<v Speaker 7>as if they would like there to be an invasion

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<v Speaker 7>and a toppling and a forceful overthrown. Fortunately for US,

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<v Speaker 7>as of now, it appears that Donald Trump does not

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<v Speaker 7>want that. And more importantly than Donald Trump, even his

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<v Speaker 7>base really really doesn't want that. They have seen the

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<v Speaker 7>death and destruction and waste of the entire War on

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<v Speaker 7>Terror and they're not interested in doing it again. And

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<v Speaker 7>just to give you an example, here's one of my

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<v Speaker 7>buddies talking about Owen Schroyer from Info Wars.

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<v Speaker 8>Ones that actually have individuals as guests on their programs

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<v Speaker 8>who are holocaust deniers, Oh, who are terrorist deniers.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, the trash art country. Yeah, he's getting listen how

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<v Speaker 1>desperty is trash? Are military have no?

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<v Speaker 12>You would gladly send every American soldier to die for Israel. Mark,

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<v Speaker 12>Don't you say a damn thing about our military.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you say a damn thing.

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<v Speaker 8>These are people that history will deal with in a

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<v Speaker 8>very very harsh way. A history comes too late. We'll

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<v Speaker 8>see about that regime that once a nuclear weapon. Who's

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<v Speaker 8>he even talking sea? I stress intercontinental? Notice how he's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 8>the people that have the on their show? Who?

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<v Speaker 1>Who has people on their show named the show hosts Mark?

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<v Speaker 8>The Holocaust deniers and the terrorist deniers?

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<v Speaker 7>Who?

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<v Speaker 4>Mark, say a name, you coward.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it's back to.

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<v Speaker 8>Iran, Iran, Iran, Iran, Iran.

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<v Speaker 7>He's obviously talking about either there's only two options. It's

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<v Speaker 7>either Tucker Carlson or it's Joe Rogan or both. That's

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<v Speaker 7>what he's talking about.

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<v Speaker 8>If I wasn't Jewish, I was Christian or a Muslim

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<v Speaker 8>for Buddhists or Hindu or an atheist, an agnostic, Ordist

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<v Speaker 8>or whatever, my view would be exactly the same.

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<v Speaker 4>Bull shit, bull shit.

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<v Speaker 13>You do not speak for Christians.

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<v Speaker 12>Conservative conservatives, Mark, bullshit, you are not gonna sit there

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<v Speaker 12>and say, as a Jew, I'll speak for Christians and

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<v Speaker 12>say the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you won't.

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<v Speaker 7>I genuinely believe that Owen Troyer, Dave Smith, Tucker Carlson,

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<v Speaker 7>Joe Rogan are far more indicative of the average American voter,

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<v Speaker 7>average American right winger, and probably just the average American

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<v Speaker 7>then Ben Shapiro or Mark Levin when they're advocating for

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<v Speaker 7>this war with Iran. I think it's tremendously unpopular. Yes,

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<v Speaker 7>I think that if you were to just pull Americans

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<v Speaker 7>nuclear weapon? I think most people would say no, I'd

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<v Speaker 7>rather they not. However, if the poll was then followed

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<v Speaker 7>up with if the only way to stop it is

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<v Speaker 7>to invade them, I think that the answer would be,

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<v Speaker 7>all right, never mind, We're not doing that. We're not

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<v Speaker 7>going back to the Middle East. No more boots on

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<v Speaker 7>the ground, no more in fours, no more bombing. Campaigns

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<v Speaker 7>were not interested, and I think that is the reason

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<v Speaker 7>that there has been this push for this label of

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<v Speaker 7>woke right, is that it's really hard to defeat us

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<v Speaker 7>on the merits of the arguments, because if we actually

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<v Speaker 7>get a fair hearing and we sit across from you

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<v Speaker 7>for three hours, you don't really you can't hold a

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<v Speaker 7>candle to us, because we have the truth on our side,

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<v Speaker 7>and we also have the populist energy on our side,

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<v Speaker 7>which says, yeah, no, no more wars in the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 7>In fact, how about no more wars. For give me

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<v Speaker 7>fucking five years. That's all I'm asking, not asking for

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<v Speaker 7>a lifetime. Five years and no wars.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we get that? All right, there's my.

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<v Speaker 7>Compromise position, Give me five fucking years of peace and prosperity.

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<v Speaker 7>Let's try that. Let's try it for a change. Let's

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<v Speaker 7>just try it on like a new pair of shoes.

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<v Speaker 7>Just see how they feel. Let's go for a dance

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<v Speaker 7>to them, Let's go for a walk. That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 7>interested in seeing. And I think most Americans agree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Most.

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<v Speaker 7>Now, that's not to say that most Americans can't be

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<v Speaker 7>easily propagandaized into another war. God knows they can, and

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<v Speaker 7>God knows they probably will be in the not too

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<v Speaker 7>distant future. But as of now, the populist energy says

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<v Speaker 7>no war, and the president of the United States is

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<v Speaker 7>land basting the neo conservative movement. Let's hear from him

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<v Speaker 7>just yesterday in Saudi Arabia.

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<v Speaker 14>This great transformation has not come from Western intervention lists

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<v Speaker 14>or flying people and beautiful plains giving you lectures on

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<v Speaker 14>how to live and how to govern your own affairs.

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<v Speaker 14>Now that leaming marvels of Riad and Abu Dhabi were

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<v Speaker 14>not created by the so called nation builders, neocons or

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<v Speaker 14>liberal nonprofits like those who spent trillions and trillions of

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<v Speaker 14>dollars failing to develop Kabal Baghdad so many other cities. Instead,

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<v Speaker 14>the birth of a modern Middle East has been brought

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<v Speaker 14>by the people of the region themselves, the people that

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<v Speaker 14>are right here, the people that have lived here all

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<v Speaker 14>their lives. Developing your own sovereign countries, pursuing your own

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<v Speaker 14>unique visions and charting your own destinies in your own way.

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<v Speaker 14>It's really incredible what you've done. In the end, the

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<v Speaker 14>so called nation builders wrecked far more nations than they built,

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<v Speaker 14>and the interventional US were intervening in complex societies that

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<v Speaker 14>they did not even understand themselves. They told you how

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<v Speaker 14>to do it, but they had no idea how to

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<v Speaker 14>do it themselves. Peace, prosperity, and progress ultimately came not

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<v Speaker 14>from a radical rejection of your heritage, but rather from

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<v Speaker 14>embracing your national traditions and embracing that same heritage that

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<v Speaker 14>you love so dearly.

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<v Speaker 7>What are you talking about, Trump? We'll be greeted as liberators,

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<v Speaker 7>remember that one. Yeah, it didn't work out so hot,

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<v Speaker 7>did it? And it wouldn't work out so hot if

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<v Speaker 7>we were to invade or even bomb run for that matter,

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<v Speaker 7>because we've got a lot of bases over there, and

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<v Speaker 7>Iran would almost certainly respond and blow up and kill

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<v Speaker 7>and nim countless American troops that are unnecessarily stationed in

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<v Speaker 7>the Middle East right now. So there really is no

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<v Speaker 7>war option that amounts to something that I or Trump

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<v Speaker 7>I think wants to see. And that is really fucking

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<v Speaker 7>good news. That is a breath of fresh air if

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<v Speaker 7>ever there was one, and I, for one, am very

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<v Speaker 7>grateful for it. Now, as I said before, does that

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<v Speaker 7>mean that Trump will follow through? Does that mean that

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<v Speaker 7>he will sign peace deals with everybody involved?

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<v Speaker 1>No, it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 7>But the trajectory right now looked really promising, and I

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<v Speaker 7>think that this is the time where the non invenious

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<v Speaker 7>libertarians ought to be lending their support in hopes that

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<v Speaker 7>whatever little influence we may have might help get it

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<v Speaker 7>pushed over the finish line. And I think we got

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<v Speaker 7>a real shot. And I did not think we got

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<v Speaker 7>a real shot just a few weeks ago. This is

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<v Speaker 7>a tremendous shift and it's looking I mean optimistic, puts

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<v Speaker 7>it mildly. There were rumors just a few days ago

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<v Speaker 7>that Donald Trump was prepared to unilaterally recognize Palestinian statehood.

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<v Speaker 7>What I mean, talk about a one point eighty from

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<v Speaker 7>what I expected to happen with that.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be crazy. On top of that, you now

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<v Speaker 7>Just a few hours ago, it was announced that the

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<v Speaker 7>Iranians are prepared to sign a nuclear deproliferation or a

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<v Speaker 7>nuclear freeze, and all that they're asking for is to

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<v Speaker 7>bring down the sanctions, to take off the sanctions. Donald

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<v Speaker 7>would be lifting the sanctions against Syria. Now this one,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm up two minds on because al Jelani, former AQIAP

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<v Speaker 7>or whatever Okaya guy is now the president and he's

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<v Speaker 7>meeting with Macron, and I guess he's got meet with Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Very tough guy, very beautiful guy.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know how to feel about that, But I

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<v Speaker 7>will say this, the Syrian people have suffered terribly for

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<v Speaker 7>a very long time, in part in large part thanks

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<v Speaker 7>to Operation tip Er Sycamore and CIA behavior that was

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<v Speaker 7>basically forcing this civil war to transpire. But setting that aside,

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<v Speaker 7>I think that the sanctions ultimately punish the people. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 7>I would like to give Piece a chance, even if

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<v Speaker 7>I think al Jilani is probably going to end up

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<v Speaker 7>being a disaster, but you never know, I mean, compared

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<v Speaker 7>to a sad We'll see, We'll see who ends up

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<v Speaker 7>being better. Those aren't the only Piece negotiations that are transpiring.

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<v Speaker 7>Eaden and Alexander the last, as far as I know,

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<v Speaker 7>the last American Israeli. He's both hostage in Gaza was

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<v Speaker 7>released once again, Wick Cough comes through. I don't know

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<v Speaker 7>how the fuck this guy keeps pulling it off, but

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<v Speaker 7>allegedly they didn't even have to give up anything, and

445
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<v Speaker 7>he got another twenty hostages released and the final American

446
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<v Speaker 7>citizen released. That is huge, huge progress, and to do

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<v Speaker 7>it without giving anything up. Obviously it was it was

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<v Speaker 7>framed as hey, give us this and you'll have a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of good will. But I think more than that

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<v Speaker 7>What it's really doing is it's taking the impetus and

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<v Speaker 7>the justification for America to be involved any longer off

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<v Speaker 7>the table. There are no Americans over there anymore. That

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<v Speaker 7>used to be the argument. They used to say, Well,

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<v Speaker 7>they've got hostages, so we have to keep bombing until

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<v Speaker 7>we get the hostages back. The wark end until we

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<v Speaker 7>get the hostages back, and then you go, well, I

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<v Speaker 7>don't really care about the hostages. They're not Americans. Oh

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<v Speaker 7>well there are some American hostages. Well now there aren't.

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<v Speaker 7>It's totally your problem now, not ours. So that's a

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<v Speaker 7>huge step in the right direction. And I think the

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<v Speaker 7>reason that they negotiated that, and I think that the

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<v Speaker 7>reason that Hamas did it is because they realized that

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<v Speaker 7>as long as America is funding and arming the Israelis,

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<v Speaker 7>this war ain't going to end, and it's certainly not

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<v Speaker 7>going to win. It's not going to end with them victorious.

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<v Speaker 7>So they're like, here, take your American hostage. You no

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<v Speaker 7>longer have an excuse to be involved in this thing.

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<v Speaker 7>So I think that's what's happening. But that's not all.

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<v Speaker 7>He's also simultaneously negotiating with Putin, so he's negotiating with Hamas, Iran,

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<v Speaker 7>and Russia all at the same time as of now,

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<v Speaker 7>positive outcomes being promised.

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<v Speaker 1>Remarkable.

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<v Speaker 7>Just to show you I'm not making this up. Here's

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<v Speaker 7>a spokesman for the Israelis on Sky News.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell me where this is wrong.

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<v Speaker 15>Did the Americans have any involvement in the release of

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<v Speaker 15>the Israelis have any involvement in the release of this hostage?

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<v Speaker 15>Have the Israelis had any involvement in the deal with

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<v Speaker 15>the who the thees that the Americans have done? Are

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<v Speaker 15>the Israelis talking to Iran at the moment? That's were

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<v Speaker 15>my questions. Where am I wrong on that? Please tell

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<v Speaker 15>me because it'll be interesting to know.

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<v Speaker 13>We are closer than ever with our American allies. What

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<v Speaker 13>you're sharing is a view which Israel's enemies would like

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<v Speaker 13>to share it to the outside world. It's not just wrong,

486
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<v Speaker 13>it's morally backwards. Let's not confuse the arsonists with the firefighter.

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<v Speaker 13>We're fighting to defeat Humas in this war.

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<v Speaker 7>Now, if you notice there, he didn't say no. He

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<v Speaker 7>did not say no. He says it's wrong. It's morally wrong.

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<v Speaker 7>Let's not mix the awesness with the people trying to

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<v Speaker 7>put out the foile. It seems to be what's actually

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<v Speaker 7>happening now. You could say there's some five D chess

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<v Speaker 7>thing that's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe there is, but as of now, it looks as

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<v Speaker 7>if Trump is genuinely pissed off, and I think I know.

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<v Speaker 6>Why no meeting with Israeli Prime Minister net Yahoo analysts

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<v Speaker 6>have been saying recently that he is being seen by

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<v Speaker 6>the US by the Trump administration as a roadblock in

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<v Speaker 6>many areas that Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>Is trying to advance.

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<v Speaker 6>Israel, in fact, was not having much to do with

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<v Speaker 6>this latest hostage development.

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<v Speaker 7>But needless to say, when you have Fox News that's

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<v Speaker 7>saying that the Trump administration perceives NTNYA who as a roadblock.

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<v Speaker 7>That's a big deal. Now, why why are they so upset? Well,

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<v Speaker 7>in my opinion, Signal Gate, if you guys remember that

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<v Speaker 7>from a month go, it appears more and more likely

509
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<v Speaker 7>that Israel was using Mike Waltz to back channel and

510
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<v Speaker 7>betray the anti war members of the Trump administration. Instead

511
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<v Speaker 7>of going after Walls, who ought to be responsible because

512
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<v Speaker 7>he was the one who added in the journal into

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<v Speaker 7>the chat, they went after Hegseth everybody went after Hegseth

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<v Speaker 7>Pete Hegseth Secretary of Defense. Why well, it happens to

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<v Speaker 7>me that Wolls was one of the top guys advocating

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<v Speaker 7>to bomb the nuclear facilities in Iran along with Rubio,

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<v Speaker 7>and heg Seth was opposed to it. So all of

518
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<v Speaker 7>a sudden, this chat leak makes Hegseeth apparently on the

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<v Speaker 7>on the chopping block, whereas Wolls is fine. But that's

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<v Speaker 7>not how it played out. The media pressure was all

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<v Speaker 7>heg say, Hexeth, Hegseth, Hexseth, Get him out, get him out,

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<v Speaker 7>get him out. But how did Trump respond? He forced

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<v Speaker 7>out Walls as the National Security Advisor and sent him

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<v Speaker 7>to the United Nations, the same place that he sent

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<v Speaker 7>Nikki Haley during his first presidential administration. If you're recall, so,

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<v Speaker 7>it seems to me like Trump uses the United Nations

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<v Speaker 7>station to get rid of malcontents. He just ships He's like,

528
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<v Speaker 7>get out of here, don't want to deal with you.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna read a synopsis for you from another one

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<v Speaker 7>of my buddies, Harrison Smith, also of Info Wars, says,

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<v Speaker 7>let me get this straight. Israel bombed the shit out

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<v Speaker 7>of everyone around them. For over a year, which eliminated

533
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<v Speaker 7>Iran's proxies but pissed off everyone in the world. So

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<v Speaker 7>now they have a brief window of opportunity to take

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<v Speaker 7>out Iran, and if they don't, the backlash will be massive.

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<v Speaker 7>But they can't actually defeat Iran without American troops on

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<v Speaker 7>the ground, So they are frantically trying to get Trump

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<v Speaker 7>to launch a war with net Yahoo, visiting DC three

539
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<v Speaker 7>times in three months with nothing to show for it

540
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<v Speaker 7>but a bombing campaign against the Huthies. Despite being seemingly

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<v Speaker 7>surrounded by militant scionists, Trump's team has mostly pursued diplomatic solutions,

542
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<v Speaker 7>even talking to Iran against the explicit wishes of Israel.

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<v Speaker 7>A rift formed between pro ineventionalists, he says, inventionalists too.

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<v Speaker 7>It's pro interventionists.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn it.

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<v Speaker 7>You and Trump got a roan like Mike Walt's an

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<v Speaker 7>empty interventionists like Pete Hegseth. Hegsath then started facing immense

548
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<v Speaker 7>media pressure, with his top anti war aids being forced

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<v Speaker 7>out of the Pentagon on flimsy accusations of leaking, some

550
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<v Speaker 7>of which went on to be guests on Tucker Carlson,

551
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<v Speaker 7>which you should check out. Then Waltz added the editor

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<v Speaker 7>of the leftist magazine The Atlantic to a signal to

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<v Speaker 7>that chat That's Goldberg, where the Yemen war was being discussed.

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<v Speaker 7>After the chats were leaked, Hegseth got the brunt of

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<v Speaker 7>the blowback for some reason, and when he refused to

556
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<v Speaker 7>resign over it, a second signal gate scandal was launched

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<v Speaker 7>to accuse him of sharing classified info to his wife. Walls, meantime,

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<v Speaker 7>appointed a former member of Israel's miniature Ministry of Defense

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<v Speaker 7>to oversee Iran and Israel policy on the NSC, that's

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<v Speaker 7>the National Security Council. Eventually, Walls was forced to resign

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<v Speaker 7>after he was discovered coordinating with that Yahoo to push

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<v Speaker 7>a pro war agenda in secret and against the orders

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<v Speaker 7>of Trump. Then, in the last few days, Trump cut

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<v Speaker 7>off communication with the YAHO, dropped the requirement for Saudi

565
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<v Speaker 7>Arabia normalized relations with Israel, canceled hegxsa's trip to Israel,

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<v Speaker 7>and even announced that the US is going to recognize

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<v Speaker 7>a Palestinian state. Suddenly, it's been announced that multiple gigantic

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<v Speaker 7>advanced nuclear production facilities have not only been discovered in Iran,

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<v Speaker 7>but are known to be using material only used in

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<v Speaker 7>nuclear weapons, not a energy production. And Trump leaves for

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<v Speaker 7>the Mid East on Monday. Oh boy, nailed it nailed

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<v Speaker 7>at Harrison. He and I saw that identically, So I

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<v Speaker 7>just wanted to read the recap because it helps helps

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<v Speaker 7>get some of the details in there that I probably

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<v Speaker 7>would have left on the cutting room floor if I'm

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<v Speaker 7>just ad libbing.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the whole thing, that's the whole picture.

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<v Speaker 7>Now, as I said many times already in this episode,

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<v Speaker 7>all of this could fall apart. We could end up

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<v Speaker 7>being in war with Iran in a week. But as

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<v Speaker 7>of now, it sure doesn't look like it. It looks

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<v Speaker 7>like Trump is for real negotiating to basically align the

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<v Speaker 7>United States with the Saudis and with the Middle East

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<v Speaker 7>instead of the Israelis are top Middle Eastern ally seems

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<v Speaker 7>as if they're being replaced. And what I think is

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<v Speaker 7>really interesting about this is that China had actually brokeered

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<v Speaker 7>the peace talks between Saudi Arabia and Iran just a

588
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<v Speaker 7>couple of years ago, and now it looks like Trump

589
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<v Speaker 7>has decided. Hey, and this is my read of it,

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<v Speaker 7>so you know, take it with a grain of salt.

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<v Speaker 7>But I think that because the Saudis trading in the

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<v Speaker 7>US dollar, and the petro dollar system is predicated off

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<v Speaker 7>of that continuation. I think that Trump and his economic advisors,

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<v Speaker 7>more than anything, said we need to get right with

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<v Speaker 7>the Saudis. If that means we have to abandon our

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<v Speaker 7>relationship with the Israelis, so be it. Because we have

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<v Speaker 7>to have a positive relationship with the Saudis. And if

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<v Speaker 7>the Saudis getting bed with the Chinese, well then we're fucked.

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<v Speaker 7>So priority number one is to assuage the Saudis. You

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<v Speaker 7>don't have to like it. I'm not saying I like

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<v Speaker 7>it either, but that's what it looks like to me.

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<v Speaker 7>So much so that Katar, whose allies with the Saudis,

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<v Speaker 7>I imagine, is offering to give a new air force

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<v Speaker 7>one to the Trump administration, well not to the United

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<v Speaker 7>States federal government. And it looks as if everybody is

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<v Speaker 7>trying to buddy buddy with the US. And it looks

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<v Speaker 7>as if we are swapping allies in the Middle East,

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<v Speaker 7>something I never thought i'd see. Never, I mean, to

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<v Speaker 7>abandon the Israelis and go towards the Islamists is mind blowing.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 7>Mark Levin makes some good points actually, despite the fact

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<v Speaker 7>that I despise him. It is true that the Saudis

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<v Speaker 7>were involved, and most of the hijackers on nine to

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<v Speaker 7>eleven were from Saudi Arabia. So I'm not saying that

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<v Speaker 7>this allyship will be any more fruitful or one that

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<v Speaker 7>I should be any more optimistic about than it is

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<v Speaker 7>the one with the Israelis. It could lead to other

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<v Speaker 7>wars on behalf of Saudi Arabia if they go all

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<v Speaker 7>the way that direction. That's a distinct possibility. But I

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<v Speaker 7>still think that it's preferable than what looked to be

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<v Speaker 7>an minute war with Iran, one that, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 7>would be the death knell for the United States Empire

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<v Speaker 7>as it exists today, and probably the death of the dollar.

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<v Speaker 7>It gives us a chance at peace. At least, it

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<v Speaker 7>gives us a chance at peaceful relationships with the Middle East,

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<v Speaker 7>which God knows we need and more than we need it.

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<v Speaker 1>They do.

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<v Speaker 7>Holy shit, they've been through hell. So Figers crossed TVD.

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<v Speaker 7>Here's another good reason we shouldn't want war with Iran.

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<v Speaker 4>I give the Muslim country's credit. They'd punch above their

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<v Speaker 4>way class every day they go what the because what

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<v Speaker 4>are you looking at? Mother? Balastin went domb on them.

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<v Speaker 4>They really are crazy?

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<v Speaker 8>You are?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Pakistan? Who is gas in Pakistan?

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<v Speaker 8>I was.

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<v Speaker 4>Pakistan's day one? Do you taught that? And they be?

638
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<v Speaker 4>They both have nukes? Who are going? Dude, we can

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<v Speaker 4>do it right now. I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like Pakistan gets some nukes from where, like

641
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<v Speaker 2>the coyote gets them from.

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<v Speaker 7>ACME as obviously just a comedic interlude there, but that's

643
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<v Speaker 7>uh Mat and Shane Gillis from Matt and Shaine Secret Podcasts.

644
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<v Speaker 7>But yeah, there is a hot war between nuclear powers

645
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<v Speaker 7>right now in India and Pakistan. And yeah, the Islamic

646
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<v Speaker 7>world don't play yo, the fuck are you looking at?

647
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<v Speaker 7>They're pretty serious, man. So I'd like to not, could

648
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<v Speaker 7>we not? Let's not thirty seven and jillion in debt.

649
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<v Speaker 7>We've already got so much civil strife and cultural degradation here, No,

650
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<v Speaker 7>no thanks? And might I add we were just funding

651
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<v Speaker 7>a proxy war against another nuclear power in Russia. So yeah,

652
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<v Speaker 7>and I forgot there's so much good shit happening. I

653
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<v Speaker 7>forgot that Trump was also negotiating and did with the

654
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<v Speaker 7>Houthis and Yemen and basically ended that bombing campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's over now phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 5>Ben sh Hero built a career opposing identity politics as

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<v Speaker 5>a proud Zionist.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, now you.

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<v Speaker 5>Listen, Phil, However you feel about Zionism, it's identity politics.

660
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<v Speaker 4>Like that is the.

661
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<v Speaker 5>Definition of it. You could not find a better example

662
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<v Speaker 5>of a politics built on an identity. And yet you're

663
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<v Speaker 5>out here saying facts don't care about your feelings. Identity

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<v Speaker 5>politics is wrong. And then while you're saying that your

665
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<v Speaker 5>number one priority, I know, is this this manifestation of

666
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<v Speaker 5>identity politics. You can only keep that charade going for

667
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<v Speaker 5>so long. No, It's totally true. Before someone sees through it.

668
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<v Speaker 3>There's something in people that the lowest part of people

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<v Speaker 3>that instinctively accuses others of doing what they're doing. And

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<v Speaker 3>I've never really, man, I don't That's the one thing

671
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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to be as a guy who does that.

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<v Speaker 3>But I remember Bill Christopher I worked for for years

673
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<v Speaker 3>and really liked and was grateful to, And he was

674
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<v Speaker 3>great bawt in the nineties and came out against me

675
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<v Speaker 3>and called me a Nazi and all this stuff, like

676
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<v Speaker 3>without calling me, by the way, I called him and

677
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<v Speaker 3>asked him to lunch.

678
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<v Speaker 1>She refused.

679
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<v Speaker 3>He wouldn't go to lunch with me. Huhm end of

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<v Speaker 3>our relationship. But one of the criticisms against me, I'll

681
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<v Speaker 3>never forget it. When I realized this phenomenon was real

682
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<v Speaker 3>is when he accused me of advocating and I'm quoting

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<v Speaker 3>for an Ethno state. Now, I have a lot of flaws.

684
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<v Speaker 3>They're all on display. I've never wanted an Eathno state.

685
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<v Speaker 3>And it's like, wait, one of us is for an

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<v Speaker 3>Ethno state and it's not me.

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<v Speaker 7>I think that's a really profound point and a very

688
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<v Speaker 7>obvious one that if you believe in a Jewish state,

689
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<v Speaker 7>well then definitionally you believe in support identity politics. Now

690
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<v Speaker 7>you can say, oh, well, we have to have ours

691
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<v Speaker 7>because of the injustice and persecution that we've suffered. Okay,

692
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<v Speaker 7>but just acknowledge that's the exact same argument that African

693
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<v Speaker 7>Americans had made when it came to reparations, that sure,

694
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<v Speaker 7>this is unfortunate, but call it whatever you want. The

695
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<v Speaker 7>injustice waged against us historically justifies the identity politics with

696
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<v Speaker 7>which we function today. It's the exact same argument, and

697
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<v Speaker 7>it is definitionally woke, which is exactly why they tried

698
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<v Speaker 7>to front run it and call us the woke right,

699
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<v Speaker 7>because the actual woke right, or the people that stand

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<v Speaker 7>with the Ethno state in the Middle East known as Israel,

701
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<v Speaker 7>not an accident, not an accident that they started to

702
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<v Speaker 7>call us woke right just because it was coming for

703
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<v Speaker 7>them eventually. So might as well mirror that on your

704
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<v Speaker 7>opponents before they can deliver the blow against you. What's

705
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<v Speaker 7>funny about it is that I never even considered saying that,

706
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<v Speaker 7>because it was just such a given that the pro

707
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<v Speaker 7>Israel Zionist right wing were the wokests.

708
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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, I never felt like it was.

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<v Speaker 7>Necessary to smear my opponents on the right, primarily because

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<v Speaker 7>I don't really view myself as being on the right,

711
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<v Speaker 7>even though I probably am at this point, but also

712
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<v Speaker 7>because I felt like the merits of my arguments would

713
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<v Speaker 7>stand up without any bullshit labels if I called them anything.

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<v Speaker 7>I called them neo conservatives, because that's what they called themselves.

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<v Speaker 7>But apparently that also isn't allowed anymore, as we discovered

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<v Speaker 7>from Douglas Murray.

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<v Speaker 5>Dous Murray wrote the book called Neo Conservatism, Why We

718
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<v Speaker 5>Need It. It was his book, and so what happened

719
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<v Speaker 5>was for people who don't like know you know a

720
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<v Speaker 5>lot about this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's there was.

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<v Speaker 5>A this was their term. The neo conservative was not

723
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<v Speaker 5>a pejorative term until the neo conservative's got control of

724
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<v Speaker 5>our foreign policy and ruined everything.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, neo conservatism wasn't a pejorative until neo conservatism was

726
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<v Speaker 7>tried and failed miserably and we got to see it

727
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<v Speaker 7>firsthand and suffer the consequences of it. And now we

728
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<v Speaker 7>use it as a pejorative against you because your ideology

729
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<v Speaker 7>fucking sucks.

730
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<v Speaker 1>And I make no apologies for saying that.

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<v Speaker 7>But what you notice about this is that it wasn't

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<v Speaker 7>just neo conservative, it was also Wolfowitz. When when Dave

733
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<v Speaker 7>Smith brought up Wolfowitz, that's when Douglas Murry said, oh,

734
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<v Speaker 7>bring up a Jewish name, the N word. Uh, it's

735
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<v Speaker 7>just so obvious what they're doing. So they're trying to

736
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<v Speaker 7>take away the labels that we can use against them,

737
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<v Speaker 7>which are totally apt. If you can't call a guy

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<v Speaker 7>who wrote neo conservatism why we need it, if you

739
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<v Speaker 7>can't call him a neocon, well then you fucking can't

740
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<v Speaker 7>call anybody that. But also, once they've already tried to

741
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<v Speaker 7>strip away the use of the in word, they also

742
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<v Speaker 7>tried to apply a label which is so much more

743
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<v Speaker 7>aptly applied to them, the woke right, and they tried

744
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<v Speaker 7>to apply it to us, which.

745
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<v Speaker 1>Is mind blowing.

746
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<v Speaker 7>But it's only mind blowing if you don't understand the

747
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:52.719
<v Speaker 7>incentive structure, if you don't understand the tactical play here,

748
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<v Speaker 7>which I know you guys now do, because I've laid

749
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<v Speaker 7>it out excruciating with inexcruciating detail over the past month.

750
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<v Speaker 1>Couldn't be more.

751
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<v Speaker 7>They were attempting to defame the populist, non interventionist right

752
00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:10.880
<v Speaker 7>wing movement that was on the upturn and try and

753
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<v Speaker 7>crush it in its infancy. Well, you failed. And as

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<v Speaker 7>a consequence of that, James Lindsay, who as far as

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<v Speaker 7>I'm concerned, was deployed to employ this tactic, has now

756
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<v Speaker 7>lost his mind as a consequence of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I genuinely believe that.

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<v Speaker 7>First up, you have someone saying, apparently the new Pope

759
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<v Speaker 7>said communism has penetrated even Christian circles disguised as disguised

760
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<v Speaker 7>as solidarity. It is our pastoral duty to expose it.

761
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<v Speaker 7>Doctor Taylor Marshall responds, let us stand in full agreement

762
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<v Speaker 7>with his holiness, Pope Leo the fourteenth on this point,

763
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<v Speaker 7>and then James lindsay Quot tweets it and says, no,

764
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<v Speaker 7>you don't. If you did, I'd be your leader instead

765
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<v Speaker 7>of kicked to the curb. Stupid fascist. You're not anti communists,

766
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<v Speaker 7>you're communist one step removed, and given how the PRC runs,

767
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<v Speaker 7>that's China zero steps today. So basically he's saying you

768
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<v Speaker 7>are communist, you know an anti communists, you are communists.

769
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<v Speaker 1>But it gets better.

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<v Speaker 7>He also posted one of the worst memes I've ever seen,

771
00:41:11.400 --> 00:41:14.480
<v Speaker 7>says there's no such thing as the woke right. Then

772
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<v Speaker 7>he says these are all tweets from other people, but

773
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<v Speaker 7>he put it together. Then Michael McConnell says, better a

774
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<v Speaker 7>woke right than a week right than Sternovich says Marx

775
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:24.679
<v Speaker 7>is an excellent writer and the critical theories have made

776
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:28.320
<v Speaker 7>excellent points about capitalism and its successes. Then Matt Walsh says,

777
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<v Speaker 7>oh no, maybe I am woke right after all.

778
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<v Speaker 1>And then a.

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<v Speaker 7>Guy literally known as Literal Skizzo says it's inevitable and

780
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<v Speaker 7>there is nothing you can do to stop it. Everyone

781
00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:42.840
<v Speaker 7>will fall in line eventually when we the woke right

782
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<v Speaker 7>take control of the right wing. This is where it

783
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<v Speaker 7>gets totally nuts. So this Matt Walsh tweet in particular,

784
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<v Speaker 7>he says, oh no, maybe I am woke right after all.

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<v Speaker 7>Let me show you the context of that. Matt Walsh

786
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<v Speaker 7>said a couple of years ago, he said, what people

787
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<v Speaker 7>don't seem to understand is that Arby's is actually the

788
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<v Speaker 7>best fast food.

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<v Speaker 1>So obviously he's a big fan of Arby's.

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<v Speaker 7>Arby's posts a tweet that says, unlike Dad, Ram and

791
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<v Speaker 7>Swiss actually came.

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<v Speaker 1>Back, which is just a stupid joke. But whatever.

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<v Speaker 7>James Lindsay quote tweets an Arby's advertisement and he says,

794
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<v Speaker 7>Arby's trying to appeal to the Wolke right demo that's

795
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<v Speaker 7>curtains for them.

796
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<v Speaker 1>Cringe as fuck.

797
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<v Speaker 7>And Matt Wallas quote tweets that what with the screenshots,

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<v Speaker 7>and he says, oh no, maybe I am wolf right

799
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<v Speaker 7>after all. So he's obviously making a joke. But does

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<v Speaker 7>that stop James Lindsay from using it in his own

801
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<v Speaker 7>meme to try and prove out that his thesis is

802
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<v Speaker 7>in fact valid. No, it does not stop him. So

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<v Speaker 7>it's very obvious to me that James Lindsay felt as

804
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<v Speaker 7>if he should have been the leader of the right wing,

805
00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:42.039
<v Speaker 7>which is fucking mind blowing because he was a lefty

806
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<v Speaker 7>his entire life. He was a college professor, for God's sake.

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<v Speaker 7>So you basically change your mind, You swing over to

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<v Speaker 7>the right just during the last election, and you think

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<v Speaker 7>that you should be the ideological leader of an entire movement.

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<v Speaker 7>What So, there's a mixture of op being ran paired

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<v Speaker 7>with narcissism and ego astronomical ego, but he is. He

812
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<v Speaker 7>has opted to go to war with all of the

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<v Speaker 7>people that are actual ideological leaders of the right wing,

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<v Speaker 7>like Cernovich, like Pasobic, like Sargon of a God, everybody, everybody.

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<v Speaker 7>He's even got a war with me, for God's sakes.

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<v Speaker 7>And I'm not I'm far from a leader of it,

817
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:23.239
<v Speaker 7>but it's just wild. He's also take shots at Dave

818
00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:26.480
<v Speaker 7>Smith constantly. But the reason I know that it's not

819
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<v Speaker 7>just that he wants to be the leader of the right,

820
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<v Speaker 7>but it's specifically targeted at the non interventionist right wing

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<v Speaker 7>is that he goes after Dave and I that's not

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<v Speaker 7>an accident in my view. Now, certainly we have decent followings,

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<v Speaker 7>and maybe you could perceive us as being some some

824
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<v Speaker 7>level of leadership on the right. But I think that specifically,

825
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<v Speaker 7>the reason that he's he's gone after us is because

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<v Speaker 7>we have really good arguments against the wars in the

827
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<v Speaker 7>Middle East and really really good arguments against neo conservatism

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<v Speaker 7>writ large. So you might as well just put a

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<v Speaker 7>tiny little bow around everybody, from Nick Fuenttes all Lloyd

830
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<v Speaker 7>to Dave Smith. Might as well just get everybody that

831
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<v Speaker 7>disagrees with you on anything and called them all woke.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 7>Unfortunately for you, mister Lindsey, is that that showed your hand.

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<v Speaker 7>It showed that you are not just concerned about identitarianism,

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<v Speaker 7>because if that's all you were concerned with, you certainly

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<v Speaker 7>wouldn't have wrapped into this descriptor a Jewish guy who's

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<v Speaker 7>a non interventionist, who is not identitarian and does not

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<v Speaker 7>want there to be any sort of white nationalism. Dave

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<v Speaker 7>Smith specifically, who I'm talking about. You tried to label

840
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<v Speaker 7>him that as well. Oops, So now everybody sees what's happening.

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<v Speaker 7>Here's the sad thing I think, and I mean this sincerely,

842
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<v Speaker 7>and I feel bad for James honestly because I liked

843
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<v Speaker 7>some of his work when he was kind of explaining

844
00:44:53.559 --> 00:44:55.519
<v Speaker 7>the ideology behind the woke Left.

845
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<v Speaker 1>I found it educational, but I gotta be honest.

846
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<v Speaker 7>Now it's making me feel like if you've ever heard

847
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<v Speaker 7>of the gell Man amnesia effect, it's this phenomenon where

848
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<v Speaker 7>when you're reading a news article about his subject that

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<v Speaker 7>you're an expert on. Like I'll give you an example.

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<v Speaker 7>Whenever I read a news publication or coverage from a

851
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<v Speaker 7>news channel, even about lending, mortgage, mortgage rates, financing debt,

852
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:24.679
<v Speaker 7>the banking system, any of that, that's like my area

853
00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:28.519
<v Speaker 7>of expertise. I can immediately identify all of the biases

854
00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:30.280
<v Speaker 7>of the author and all of the flaws in the

855
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<v Speaker 7>argument that they make.

856
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<v Speaker 1>But then I go over to.

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00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:34.960
<v Speaker 7>Some other subject I'm not an expert on, and I go, well,

858
00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:37.719
<v Speaker 7>this is probably true though. That's the amnesia aspect of

859
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:41.039
<v Speaker 7>the gell Man amnesia effect. I'm now applying that same

860
00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:44.239
<v Speaker 7>lesson to James Lindsay. I'm thinking to myself, well, he

861
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:45.960
<v Speaker 7>still had good points on the Wolke Left stuff.

862
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:47.159
<v Speaker 1>Well maybe he fucking didn't.

863
00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:49.760
<v Speaker 7>Maybe he was wrong about that too, and that just

864
00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:52.320
<v Speaker 7>wasn't my area of expertise, and therefore I took him

865
00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:54.639
<v Speaker 7>more seriously than I should have now I'm not saying

866
00:45:54.639 --> 00:45:55.000
<v Speaker 7>that's true.

867
00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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00:45:55.599 --> 00:45:58.400
<v Speaker 7>I'd have to do way more research into Marxism to

869
00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:01.079
<v Speaker 7>actually understand if he would bullshit me on that too.

870
00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:02.599
<v Speaker 7>But I'll tell you one thing I know for a

871
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:04.920
<v Speaker 7>fucking fact, as soon as you started to go after

872
00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:08.719
<v Speaker 7>the non inventionist populist right wingers libertarians like me, I

873
00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:11.519
<v Speaker 7>knew for a fact that this guy was not a

874
00:46:11.639 --> 00:46:14.679
<v Speaker 7>honest operator. And as far as I'm concerned, as soon

875
00:46:14.679 --> 00:46:17.519
<v Speaker 7>as I identify that in your character structure at all,

876
00:46:18.320 --> 00:46:21.599
<v Speaker 7>you are dismissed. Good sir, You are dismissed for my

877
00:46:21.639 --> 00:46:23.719
<v Speaker 7>good graces, and you are dismissed from me taking you

878
00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:28.280
<v Speaker 7>seriously moving forward unless you make amends for that misstep.

879
00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:31.239
<v Speaker 7>And it seems at this junction as if he has

880
00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:34.440
<v Speaker 7>no interest in making amends for that misstep. And that's fine.

881
00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:37.800
<v Speaker 7>It's his life delayed. I don't give a shit. He's

882
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:41.960
<v Speaker 7>obliterating his own career, his own reputation as a consequence

883
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:45.360
<v Speaker 7>of this incredibly misguided decision. But that's his choice to make.

884
00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:48.480
<v Speaker 7>And just to show you that I'm not just making

885
00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:51.119
<v Speaker 7>this up, let's check out the highlight of his sit

886
00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:56.000
<v Speaker 7>down with mister psychopath himself, Jordan Peterson and mister Wolkewright himself,

887
00:46:56.199 --> 00:46:58.039
<v Speaker 7>James Lindsay just a couple days ago.

888
00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:02.679
<v Speaker 10>So Lucifer is the morning Star, and he's the angel

889
00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:04.480
<v Speaker 10>of the untrammeled intellect.

890
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:07.199
<v Speaker 4>That's that's how he's portrayed.

891
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:11.199
<v Speaker 10>In Milk right, and he's allied in some strange way

892
00:47:11.239 --> 00:47:12.599
<v Speaker 10>with the serpent in the garden.

893
00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:15.679
<v Speaker 16>To be if I might just introject, if he's the

894
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:18.519
<v Speaker 16>morning Star, what do you do in the morning after

895
00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:24.119
<v Speaker 16>the morning Star rises, you wake up right woke, right.

896
00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:26.880
<v Speaker 7>Right right, hids you better never go to sleep lest

897
00:47:26.920 --> 00:47:30.400
<v Speaker 7>you wake up and become woke like me and Dave Smith.

898
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:38.400
<v Speaker 7>Oh god, Oh, I mean, it's sad. I kind of

899
00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:41.039
<v Speaker 7>I'm embarrassed. I think I'm embarrassed that I spoke so

900
00:47:41.119 --> 00:47:43.679
<v Speaker 7>highly of James Lindsay in the past, only to see

901
00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:47.280
<v Speaker 7>what he's become, What has become of you, James. Goodness,

902
00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:50.719
<v Speaker 7>gracious man. It just bums me out. It bums me out.

903
00:47:50.760 --> 00:47:54.199
<v Speaker 7>And I'll be honest, like, I watched that whole interview,

904
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:56.440
<v Speaker 7>that whole hour and a half or however long it

905
00:47:56.559 --> 00:47:59.039
<v Speaker 7>was between James Lindsay and Jordan Peterson, two men that

906
00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:01.039
<v Speaker 7>I used to respect a lot. It seems as if

907
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:05.679
<v Speaker 7>confirmation bias is feeding upon itself in a ravenous fashion.

908
00:48:05.719 --> 00:48:09.239
<v Speaker 7>The way he perceives everything is that if he gets pushedback,

909
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:12.719
<v Speaker 7>he's over the target. If he gets pushed back from allies,

910
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:15.840
<v Speaker 7>he's over the target. If anybody comes to him in

911
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:18.679
<v Speaker 7>confidence basically and says, hey, dude, I think you're wrong

912
00:48:18.719 --> 00:48:21.360
<v Speaker 7>about this, which I did countless times over the past year.

913
00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:24.840
<v Speaker 7>As soon as he started this entire operation, I said, hey, man,

914
00:48:25.079 --> 00:48:26.559
<v Speaker 7>let me just explain to you why I think you're

915
00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:29.079
<v Speaker 7>wrong here and why you should narrow down the definition

916
00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:32.360
<v Speaker 7>of the woke right lest you encompass far too many

917
00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:36.559
<v Speaker 7>people and you ultimately make it worthless. And he dismissed me,

918
00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:39.440
<v Speaker 7>and he dismissed countless other people who, all in good faith,

919
00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:42.880
<v Speaker 7>did the same thing. But because he gets ratioed on everything,

920
00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:45.159
<v Speaker 7>he now perceives that and I shit you not. You

921
00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:49.440
<v Speaker 7>can watch the interview with Jane with Jordan Peterson. He

922
00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:52.159
<v Speaker 7>believes that every time he gets ratioed, it's because there's

923
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:54.599
<v Speaker 7>bot networks that are functioning against him, Like this is

924
00:48:54.599 --> 00:49:01.079
<v Speaker 7>like full schizophrenia. Breakdown everything that he gets dunked, he

925
00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:04.400
<v Speaker 7>goes knew it. I was nailed it, one hundred percent

926
00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:07.239
<v Speaker 7>correct as always, James, just bat in one thousand over here.

927
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:09.320
<v Speaker 1>That's not the case, James.

928
00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:12.119
<v Speaker 7>The reason that you're losing followers, the reason that you

929
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:15.320
<v Speaker 7>get ratioed on everything despite blocking everybody under the sun,

930
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:19.679
<v Speaker 7>is because your ideas fucking suck right now, because you're

931
00:49:20.519 --> 00:49:22.639
<v Speaker 7>you're doing one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.

932
00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:26.239
<v Speaker 7>You're trying to make it seem as if Pat Buchanan,

933
00:49:26.320 --> 00:49:31.239
<v Speaker 7>of all people, is it has an impermissible worldview for

934
00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:33.840
<v Speaker 7>the right wing, for the modern iteration of the populace

935
00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:37.639
<v Speaker 7>right wing. Well, sorry, James, a former liberal was never

936
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:40.079
<v Speaker 7>going to be the leader of the right. It was

937
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:43.840
<v Speaker 7>not gonna happen. That's the truth. And Pat Buchanan, along

938
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:48.880
<v Speaker 7>with Ron Paul had had demonstrated their prescience time and

939
00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:52.800
<v Speaker 7>time again over decades. Whereas you wrote a bunch of

940
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:57.880
<v Speaker 7>papers and submitted them to prove how fucked up academia was,

941
00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:00.599
<v Speaker 7>and you thought that gave you the credit to be

942
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:04.119
<v Speaker 7>the leader of the right right there next to Donald Trump.

943
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:10.320
<v Speaker 7>What no, was never gonna happen. And the pushback you're

944
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:14.039
<v Speaker 7>receiving is legitimate. And when Carl Benjamin aka Sargon of

945
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:18.400
<v Speaker 7>God demolishes you over and over again. He's not doing

946
00:50:18.400 --> 00:50:20.480
<v Speaker 7>that out of malice. He's actually a very nice person.

947
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:23.559
<v Speaker 7>He's doing it because you're fucking wrong, and you ought

948
00:50:23.559 --> 00:50:26.280
<v Speaker 7>to listen to the critique that he's levying. And while

949
00:50:26.280 --> 00:50:28.760
<v Speaker 7>you're at it, you gotta listen to mine. I tried

950
00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:32.760
<v Speaker 7>to and good faith keep you from going down this

951
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:35.519
<v Speaker 7>path because I knew it would be destructive and I

952
00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:38.760
<v Speaker 7>knew it would be divisive. And what I've concluded is

953
00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:41.559
<v Speaker 7>that it's either your ego and narcissism that has gotten

954
00:50:41.760 --> 00:50:44.239
<v Speaker 7>in the way of you realizing the error of your ways,

955
00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:48.280
<v Speaker 7>or you're being paid as an operative to continue to

956
00:50:48.320 --> 00:50:54.440
<v Speaker 7>perpetuate this unbelievably utter garbage argument. And at this point

957
00:50:54.679 --> 00:50:58.159
<v Speaker 7>I don't care which it is. You're wrong and you've

958
00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:02.119
<v Speaker 7>either lost your mind or you're soldier soul. Either way,

959
00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:05.119
<v Speaker 7>I'll pray for you, Bud, and I know, as an atheist,

960
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:08.159
<v Speaker 7>she'll appreciate that. As you guys can tell, I took

961
00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:11.519
<v Speaker 7>two full weeks off because I moved. I moved, and

962
00:51:11.559 --> 00:51:15.239
<v Speaker 7>it took me over a week to move everything up here,

963
00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:17.679
<v Speaker 7>and then it took me a full week to get

964
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:19.920
<v Speaker 7>the studio set up. Actually it took me a little

965
00:51:19.920 --> 00:51:22.519
<v Speaker 7>bit less than that, but I had to do some

966
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:25.280
<v Speaker 7>other things and get inspired and come up with you

967
00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:27.039
<v Speaker 7>know what I was going to talk about. So I'm

968
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:29.840
<v Speaker 7>back at it. If you enjoy the show, please do

969
00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:33.119
<v Speaker 7>share it around. Hit the like button. Most importantly, pick

970
00:51:33.199 --> 00:51:36.679
<v Speaker 7>up your relative's phone, pick up your great grandmother's phone

971
00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:40.239
<v Speaker 7>if she's still with you, and go to her podcatcher,

972
00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:42.239
<v Speaker 7>because I'm sure your great grandma listens to podcasts on

973
00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:46.159
<v Speaker 7>the regular and search Liberty Lockdown, click subscribe and then

974
00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:49.079
<v Speaker 7>auto update and just red pill the shit out of

975
00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:52.239
<v Speaker 7>your gigi. Red pill the fuck out of gg bro.

976
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:55.400
<v Speaker 7>That's the way we grow the show, one great grandma

977
00:51:55.719 --> 00:51:57.599
<v Speaker 7>at a time. Do hit the like button, leave a

978
00:51:57.599 --> 00:51:59.719
<v Speaker 7>comment down below. As you guys know, I do read

979
00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:02.440
<v Speaker 7>and oftentimes replied to them, but I do read all

980
00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:06.239
<v Speaker 7>of them, and subscribe while you're at it. And last,

981
00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:07.880
<v Speaker 7>but not least, if you want to support my work,

982
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:11.239
<v Speaker 7>you could subscribe at liberty lockpod on X I'll follow

983
00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:14.119
<v Speaker 7>you back over there or libertylockdown dot locals dot com.

984
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:17.599
<v Speaker 7>I will try and get back to my regularly scheduled

985
00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:21.679
<v Speaker 7>two to three episodes per week. I am seriously feel

986
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:23.280
<v Speaker 7>bad that I didn't put out a show for two

987
00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:26.239
<v Speaker 7>weeks and shout out to the dozens of you that

988
00:52:26.519 --> 00:52:29.639
<v Speaker 7>dmme or texted me or whatever saying, hey, man, just

989
00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:30.599
<v Speaker 7>making sure you're okay.

990
00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:33.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm going through withdrawals. What the fuck's up?

991
00:52:33.880 --> 00:52:35.559
<v Speaker 7>Well, now you know, and I told you at the

992
00:52:35.639 --> 00:52:37.559
<v Speaker 7>end of the last episode I put out I'm gonna

993
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:39.800
<v Speaker 7>be off for a week at least, so I was.

994
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:42.800
<v Speaker 7>It just happened end up being two weeks. That's on me.

995
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:45.320
<v Speaker 7>That's the second week is my fault. First week not

996
00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:46.800
<v Speaker 7>so much. You should have been prepared for that, but

997
00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:50.039
<v Speaker 7>second one definitely on my shoulders. Anyways, I'll catch you

998
00:52:50.039 --> 00:52:51.199
<v Speaker 7>guys soon. We're out of here.

999
00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:53.960
<v Speaker 5>It's not good for you, it's not good for the conflict,

1000
00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:56.480
<v Speaker 5>it's not good for the country. I just don't think

1001
00:52:56.480 --> 00:53:00.559
<v Speaker 5>any of racial collectivism always leads to uh place.

1002
00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:01.320
<v Speaker 1>We agree.

1003
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:03.639
<v Speaker 5>You don't want to, you don't want to embrace that stuff.

1004
00:53:03.880 --> 00:53:06.760
<v Speaker 5>But if you're concerned about that, well, then the first

1005
00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:08.440
<v Speaker 5>thing you have to do is tell the truth.

1006
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:11.679
<v Speaker 4>Welcome to liberty lockdown.

1007
00:53:11.719 --> 00:53:12.679
<v Speaker 1>Let's get your plock home.

1008
00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:13.800
<v Speaker 5>Your liberty ain't come.

1009
00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:14.719
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, it's a whol.

1010
00:53:14.840 --> 00:53:16.559
<v Speaker 1>It's where did it come from and where did he
