Speaker 1: Sam Harris.
Speaker 2: It is hilarious to be a guy who runs a
Speaker 2: meditation app and he spends half the time telling people
Speaker 2: about breathing and the other half of the time telling
Speaker 2: people that we need to bomb as many children as
Speaker 2: humanly possible until Israel feels comfortable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I texted him.
Speaker 3: So's if a Tim Dillon at the Brilliant Comedian think
Speaker 3: about how Sam Harris is a meditation app.
Speaker 4: I didn't even know that.
Speaker 3: So by days he's a meditation guru and by night
Speaker 3: he's encouraging black carbon bombing your children.
Speaker 1: I can't want everybody.
Speaker 4: Right now to breathe.
Speaker 5: What we need to do is indiscriminately bombing children.
Speaker 4: Manifest reality. You want to see.
Speaker 1: Did people from Gaza still live there?
Speaker 4: Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: Is there fire in it? Oh, it's a righteous fire
Speaker 1: and it burns bright.
Speaker 6: Beyond a mountain right now with me the night Skuy's
Speaker 6: lit up stars and drone strikes.
Speaker 4: I want you to breathe with me and hear the screams.
Speaker 7: Understand it's necessary, Believe it or not, that's true. Sam
Speaker 7: Harris does in fact have a meditation app. I don't
Speaker 7: know if I've ever used it, but I remember I
Speaker 7: used to listen to his podcast back when he had
Speaker 7: launched it, so it's been very successful. So yes, Tim
Speaker 7: Dillon is correct in between his diatribes where he declares
Speaker 7: that Hamas must be flattened and anybody that gets in
Speaker 7: the way is the responsibility of Hamas doesn't really matter.
Speaker 7: Just pick up your meditation app and you'll feel fine
Speaker 7: about the mass destruction that you're advocating on behalf of
Speaker 7: it is remarkable, and I'm grateful that there are people
Speaker 7: like Tim Dillon out there that can be honest about
Speaker 7: this stuff. What I find most fascinating and what I
Speaker 7: think is really ties together some of the topics that
Speaker 7: I've been covering as of late. It really just requires
Speaker 7: rational logical thought to come to the conclusions that you
Speaker 7: and I usually do. That's the primary reason that Jordan Peterson,
Speaker 7: James Lindsay, Constantin Kissen, others have come out very aggressively
Speaker 7: with this label where either we're psychopaths or we're woke
Speaker 7: right or whatever. It's like, well, if you can't contend
Speaker 7: with our arguments, you better just smear us as something
Speaker 7: and hope that our audiences run the other direction. The
Speaker 7: problem being that your audiences are actually running the other direction,
Speaker 7: because the logic of the claim that you're attempting to
Speaker 7: make is garbage. Also, we have the funny people on
Speaker 7: our side. We've got Tim Dillon, we've got Dave Smith,
Speaker 7: we've got Joe Rogan, we've got the Ovonne. We've got
Speaker 7: basically all of the top comics more or less. And
Speaker 7: it doesn't end there. We don't just have the top comics.
Speaker 7: We also have the top political commentators, Dave Smith being
Speaker 7: one of them, and Tucker Carlson who had on good
Speaker 7: Friend of the show Dave Smith just a couple days ago,
Speaker 7: and it was nothing revelatory, but I did think that
Speaker 7: there was one interesting part of it which I'm going
Speaker 7: to play for you now.
Speaker 5: He was clearly saying that you guys on podcasts are
Speaker 5: simply not qualified to talk about these subjects. Now you're
Speaker 5: saying this on the Joe Rogan experience, of all places
Speaker 5: to go and deliver this message, this is the place
Speaker 5: guarantee to turn the entire audience against you. And of
Speaker 5: course I just think that I think it's a it's
Speaker 5: a ridiculous non argument that never would have made sense.
Speaker 5: But coming off of the COVID years, the idea that
Speaker 5: you're going to convince people that you ought to kind
Speaker 5: of they they ought to trust your opinions, They ought
Speaker 5: to that your class ought to be trusted was a ridiculous.
Speaker 1: But he's not in that class.
Speaker 3: I mean, no, I know Douglas, and I think that
Speaker 3: I always gotten along with him, and I think that
Speaker 3: he's clever. But he's clever in a boarding school way.
Speaker 3: He went to boarding school as I did, and you
Speaker 3: instantly recognize it in the way that he debates, which
Speaker 3: is by dropping references that suggest deeperry edition that doesn't
Speaker 3: actually exist. I think he's clever, he's got a kind
Speaker 3: of bullshitty boarding school vibe to him. Again that I
Speaker 3: recognize that I have sometimes right, so I'm not, you know,
Speaker 3: not trying to be holier than now. But like they did,
Speaker 3: that he's an expert is absurd. So Dave's obviously right
Speaker 3: about that.
Speaker 7: It was as I, as I said in my coverage
Speaker 7: right after the debate, it was just a terrible, terrible
Speaker 7: idea to try and argue that you have to be
Speaker 7: an expert to go on a podcast and make an
Speaker 7: argument against a war, for instance, doing it on the
Speaker 7: Joe Rogan experience, of all places, was a catastrophic misstep.
Speaker 7: This is why I came to the conclusion that ultimately
Speaker 7: Douglas was a mercenary. He was going in there doing
Speaker 7: the bidding of his donors, not so much of his
Speaker 7: own logical mind. He was doing it because of his pocketbook,
Speaker 7: not because of his intelligence. He suffered the reputational hit
Speaker 7: as a consequence of that, but in the aftermath he
Speaker 7: had a tweet put out from the President of the
Speaker 7: United States, Donald Trump saying, everybody pick up my good
Speaker 7: friend Douglas's book.
Speaker 1: And the best I know.
Speaker 7: His book has become a top seller immediately as a
Speaker 7: consequence of that. So he got his payday, but he
Speaker 7: did take reputational damage as a consequence of that. I'm
Speaker 7: not the only one that feels that way. Here's what
Speaker 7: Tucker had to say.
Speaker 3: I think that that Murray thought he was administering the
Speaker 3: kill shot. I think that's what it was supposed to be,
Speaker 3: but the opposite happened. It's like, and not to brag.
Speaker 3: I knew this as I was watching it. I was
Speaker 3: like Davis about to become way more famous, but not
Speaker 3: just famous, more authoritative, more respected, more closely listened to
Speaker 3: than ever before.
Speaker 1: Has that been your expense?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's essentially just done nothing
Speaker 5: except make me bigger, you know.
Speaker 3: Or you did you pay Douglas to do that?
Speaker 4: I did not.
Speaker 5: I don't have that to fight I wish I had.
Speaker 5: I'm doing okay. I don't have money like that. I
Speaker 5: don't have buy off Douglas Murray money.
Speaker 4: I think he's.
Speaker 1: Got think it would take to kill shot.
Speaker 7: It's a very specific descriptor for what he expected to
Speaker 7: see transpire during that debate. I think that there's a
Speaker 7: reason Tucker's saying that. He may not be explicit about it,
Speaker 7: but I'll try and translate for you, and I'm sure
Speaker 7: most of you feel the same way about it. I
Speaker 7: think that Douglas Murty was employed to go in there
Speaker 7: and wreck Dave Smith, to destroy his argument, to destroy
Speaker 7: his narrative because it has been very, very damaging to
Speaker 7: the pro Israel side. And the fact that Tucker is
Speaker 7: willing to say that tells me that he knows that
Speaker 7: there are ideological mercenaries, there are paid spokespeople for the
Speaker 7: military industrial complex or foreign countries or whatever you want
Speaker 7: to describe it as. But he's not He's not really
Speaker 7: beaten around the bush there. I mean a kill shot.
Speaker 7: That's not Oh. I think Douglas expected to go in
Speaker 7: there and just kind of mop the floor with you.
Speaker 7: That'd be an expectation of you know, I'm just I'm
Speaker 7: overly credentialed compared to the stand up comic. He doesn't
Speaker 7: stand a chance against me. That's not what Tucker Carlson said.
Speaker 7: He said kill shot as in, I'm going to ruin
Speaker 7: your career and I'm going to ruin your arguments against
Speaker 7: this war.
Speaker 1: And he didn't do that.
Speaker 7: Basically, the only people that came out of that debate
Speaker 7: thinking that he did that were the people that already
Speaker 7: agreed with him wholeheartedly.
Speaker 1: So why exactly is this such a I have alarm fire.
Speaker 8: The Middle East is filled with terroists and terroist regimes.
Speaker 8: Americans do not like Iran and the regime that runs it.
Speaker 4: They're terrorists.
Speaker 8: They keep threatening to destroy us and our friends, the Israelis.
Speaker 8: They're trying to get nuclear weapons and put them on
Speaker 8: intercontinental ballistic missiles.
Speaker 1: We reject it.
Speaker 8: I speak for tens of millions of red blooded Americans.
Speaker 8: I speak for Christians and Jews and others alike. This
Speaker 8: is the view of the American people. That's number one.
Speaker 8: Americans hate Hamas.
Speaker 7: This is the view of the American people. Imagine the
Speaker 7: audacity in saying something like that. I don't even think
Speaker 7: I ever attempt to speak for libertarians, much less all Americans.
Speaker 7: And he's going, this is the view of the American people. No,
Speaker 7: actually it's not, Mark, but I'll let you wrap up.
Speaker 9: We hate terrorists, butchers Nazis. We hate men that kill babies,
Speaker 9: that decapitate babies, that rate women and burn people alive,
Speaker 9: and attack young teenagers at festivals.
Speaker 8: We hate them, We despise them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we do hate people that kill babies. Mark.
Speaker 7: Unfortunately, there have been babies killed on both sides, and
Speaker 7: actually a lot more on one side than the other,
Speaker 7: which is kind of why I don't want to be
Speaker 7: funding any of it.
Speaker 1: I know, this is really complex.
Speaker 8: If only Israel, what except the Kalestinian status and conditions
Speaker 8: of Saudi Arabia joining the Abraham Accords. If that's a condition,
Speaker 8: then who cares? If they join the Abraham Accords.
Speaker 9: Accept the cease fire with Qatar funded Hamas or Hamas
Speaker 9: you see.
Speaker 8: Can rebuild and strike Israel again, that's not going to happen.
Speaker 8: Whether Katar likes it or not accept the deal with
Speaker 8: the RAND that does not fully dismantle their nuclear program,
Speaker 8: that better dan will not happen either.
Speaker 7: So those three items that he lists there are all
Speaker 7: things that are happening right now according to the latest
Speaker 7: reports on Trump's negotiations with Katar, Iran, and Humas. I
Speaker 7: don't think it's an accident that Mark Levin listed all
Speaker 7: of those things. That's pretty coincidental, if so. But essentially
Speaker 7: the reason that there's been such an uproar from Shapiro
Speaker 7: and Levin and others is that Trump appears to be
Speaker 7: negotiating without the Israelis present, that he is essentially going
Speaker 7: his own way. And this is something that I can't
Speaker 7: remember ever seeing an American president do, and I certainly
Speaker 7: can't remember an American president who took one hundred million
Speaker 7: dollars from the Atolsn's turning around and saying, you guys
Speaker 7: are actually an impediment to peace. You're preventing me from
Speaker 7: accomplishing the things that I think that I can. And
Speaker 7: Trump is going all in, and I look, I may
Speaker 7: be I may have mud on my face. Seventy two
Speaker 7: hours from now, but as of now Trump appears to
Speaker 7: be sincerely cutting the Israelis out because he has realized
Speaker 7: that they are in fact not helping him. They are
Speaker 7: hindrance to getting a peace process done on all of
Speaker 7: these fronts. The punnets that you would expect to be
Speaker 7: panicking are panicking. I'll play you this speech in just
Speaker 7: a second. Before I do, let's hear from Glenn Greenwald
Speaker 7: as to whether or not we should actually fear orran.
Speaker 10: Twenty years that we have heard over and over everything
Speaker 10: about Iran, that Professor Jersehi, which is trying to scare
Speaker 10: you into believing that they're just about to get nuclear weapons.
Speaker 10: They are weeks away, they are months away. We have
Speaker 10: to go bomb them. This is not something that only
Speaker 10: began recently. In fact, we've been hearing this exact same
Speaker 10: thing for twenty years and none of it ever came true.
Speaker 10: So you should decide tonight whether there's any reason after
Speaker 10: hearing this for twenty years, you're now suddenly willing to
Speaker 10: believe that Iraq is, that Iran is on the verge
Speaker 10: of getting nucar weapons to the point that we have
Speaker 10: to go start a new war with Iran. Jeffrey Goldberg,
Speaker 10: who's the editor in chief of the Atlantic and a
Speaker 10: strong support of Israel, wrote a cover story for the
Speaker 10: Atlantic called The Point of No Return in two thousand ten,
Speaker 10: where he told Americans it was more than fifty percent
Speaker 10: likely that the Israelis were about to go bomb Iran
Speaker 10: in the next three months, because they didn't have more
Speaker 10: than months before Iran finally acquired a nuclear weapon. You
Speaker 10: can go all the way back to two thousand and five,
Speaker 10: where NBC News reported the following this is two thousand
Speaker 10: and five, twenty years ago. Quote Israel should take quote
Speaker 10: bold and courageous action against archfo Iran's nuclear program The
Speaker 10: New York Times. In twenty twelve, President Benjamin Yetnaw, who
Speaker 10: have Israel, told the UN that Iran's capability to enrich
Speaker 10: uranium must be stopped before next spring or early summer,
Speaker 10: arguing that by the time the country will be in
Speaker 10: a position to make a short, undetectable sprint to manufacture
Speaker 10: nuclear weapons. Raiders in twenty fifteen CBS and twenty eighteen
Speaker 10: BBC in twenty nineteen all say exactly the same thing.
Speaker 1: Oh, we're only months away.
Speaker 10: We have for sure these intelligence photos with a big
Speaker 10: red era, pointing at some random building that we have
Speaker 10: discovered is where Iran is about to proliferate their new
Speaker 10: It's been happening over and over that you've been lied
Speaker 10: to you for twenty years. Why would you suddenly believe
Speaker 10: it and support a new war against a country that's
Speaker 10: three times as large as a rock, risking all of
Speaker 10: the major escalation and instability and huge war that we
Speaker 10: know will happen.
Speaker 7: That's a fantastic question, mister Greenwold. Why should we believe
Speaker 7: it this time? Well, just to prove to you that
Speaker 7: this is happening yet again, let's listen to Fox News
Speaker 7: as the dutiful propagandists that.
Speaker 11: They are satellite images revealing the location of a previously
Speaker 11: unknown around in nuclear site. Now the facility spans nearly
Speaker 11: twenty five hundred acres and this.
Speaker 4: Is a big discovery. Jillian Turner has more from the
Speaker 4: State Department. Good morning, Jillian.
Speaker 11: Pretty explosive data. These satellite images that we have obtained
Speaker 11: exclusively show the alleged site location and even the layout
Speaker 11: of the secret, previously unknown nuclear weapons facilities inside around. This,
Speaker 11: of course, raises fresh concerns about the regime's role in
Speaker 11: these ongoing nuclear talks with the Trump administration. The National
Speaker 11: Council Resistance of Iran has collected intelligence from sources on
Speaker 11: the ground inside Iran that locate this nuclear weapons facility
Speaker 11: and what is called Seen Non province, far from the
Speaker 11: regime's already known nuclear sites. It's code named the Rainbow
Speaker 11: Site by Iran's officials, and it spans nearly twenty five
Speaker 11: hundred acres. It's been operating, as far as we can discern,
Speaker 11: for over a decade, under the cover of a chemical
Speaker 11: production company that's called Deba Energy CIBA.
Speaker 7: Oh, it's a rainbow site. Perhaps there's a pot of
Speaker 7: gold at the end of it. I mean, that's what
Speaker 7: you'd have to believe. On top of that, it's twenty
Speaker 7: five hundred acres and you've just discovered it, and it's
Speaker 7: been functioning for over a decade, despite there being inspectors
Speaker 7: that have been allowed in many years during that period. Really, really,
Speaker 7: we're going to buy that? Well, I'm not. Look, I
Speaker 7: think there's a distinct pot stability. The Iranians want nuclear weapons.
Speaker 7: Why wouldn't they. It's like North Korea. As soon as
Speaker 7: they got them, the threat of being overthrown or invaded
Speaker 7: diminished significantly after Gaddafi gave up his nuclear ambitions. He
Speaker 7: was then taken in the streets and brutalized. So, yeah,
Speaker 7: trying to negotiate the Iranian leadership into not wanting nuclear
Speaker 7: weapons is going to be a major challenge, and you're
Speaker 7: going to have to They're going to have to believe
Speaker 7: that an invasion and toppling is imminent if they proceed.
Speaker 7: So I guess that's the argument here. But it doesn't
Speaker 7: seem as if Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin and others
Speaker 7: are just looking for there to be peace. It looks
Speaker 7: as if they would like there to be an invasion
Speaker 7: and a toppling and a forceful overthrown. Fortunately for US,
Speaker 7: as of now, it appears that Donald Trump does not
Speaker 7: want that. And more importantly than Donald Trump, even his
Speaker 7: base really really doesn't want that. They have seen the
Speaker 7: death and destruction and waste of the entire War on
Speaker 7: Terror and they're not interested in doing it again. And
Speaker 7: just to give you an example, here's one of my
Speaker 7: buddies talking about Owen Schroyer from Info Wars.
Speaker 8: Ones that actually have individuals as guests on their programs
Speaker 8: who are holocaust deniers, Oh, who are terrorist deniers.
Speaker 1: Ah, the trash art country. Yeah, he's getting listen how
Speaker 1: desperty is trash? Are military have no?
Speaker 12: You would gladly send every American soldier to die for Israel. Mark,
Speaker 12: Don't you say a damn thing about our military.
Speaker 1: Don't you say a damn thing.
Speaker 8: These are people that history will deal with in a
Speaker 8: very very harsh way. A history comes too late. We'll
Speaker 8: see about that regime that once a nuclear weapon. Who's
Speaker 8: he even talking sea? I stress intercontinental? Notice how he's like, oh,
Speaker 8: the people that have the on their show? Who?
Speaker 1: Who has people on their show named the show hosts Mark?
Speaker 8: The Holocaust deniers and the terrorist deniers?
Speaker 7: Who?
Speaker 4: Mark, say a name, you coward.
Speaker 1: And then it's back to.
Speaker 8: Iran, Iran, Iran, Iran, Iran.
Speaker 7: He's obviously talking about either there's only two options. It's
Speaker 7: either Tucker Carlson or it's Joe Rogan or both. That's
Speaker 7: what he's talking about.
Speaker 8: If I wasn't Jewish, I was Christian or a Muslim
Speaker 8: for Buddhists or Hindu or an atheist, an agnostic, Ordist
Speaker 8: or whatever, my view would be exactly the same.
Speaker 4: Bull shit, bull shit.
Speaker 13: You do not speak for Christians.
Speaker 12: Conservative conservatives, Mark, bullshit, you are not gonna sit there
Speaker 12: and say, as a Jew, I'll speak for Christians and
Speaker 12: say the same thing.
Speaker 1: No, you won't.
Speaker 7: I genuinely believe that Owen Troyer, Dave Smith, Tucker Carlson,
Speaker 7: Joe Rogan are far more indicative of the average American voter,
Speaker 7: average American right winger, and probably just the average American
Speaker 7: then Ben Shapiro or Mark Levin when they're advocating for
Speaker 7: this war with Iran. I think it's tremendously unpopular. Yes,
Speaker 7: I think that if you were to just pull Americans
Speaker 7: and say do you want the Iranians to have a
Speaker 7: nuclear weapon? I think most people would say no, I'd
Speaker 7: rather they not. However, if the poll was then followed
Speaker 7: up with if the only way to stop it is
Speaker 7: to invade them, I think that the answer would be,
Speaker 7: all right, never mind, We're not doing that. We're not
Speaker 7: going back to the Middle East. No more boots on
Speaker 7: the ground, no more in fours, no more bombing. Campaigns
Speaker 7: were not interested, and I think that is the reason
Speaker 7: that there has been this push for this label of
Speaker 7: woke right, is that it's really hard to defeat us
Speaker 7: on the merits of the arguments, because if we actually
Speaker 7: get a fair hearing and we sit across from you
Speaker 7: for three hours, you don't really you can't hold a
Speaker 7: candle to us, because we have the truth on our side,
Speaker 7: and we also have the populist energy on our side,
Speaker 7: which says, yeah, no, no more wars in the Middle East.
Speaker 7: In fact, how about no more wars. For give me
Speaker 7: fucking five years. That's all I'm asking, not asking for
Speaker 7: a lifetime. Five years and no wars.
Speaker 1: Can we get that? All right, there's my.
Speaker 7: Compromise position, Give me five fucking years of peace and prosperity.
Speaker 7: Let's try that. Let's try it for a change. Let's
Speaker 7: just try it on like a new pair of shoes.
Speaker 7: Just see how they feel. Let's go for a dance
Speaker 7: to them, Let's go for a walk. That's what I'm
Speaker 7: interested in seeing. And I think most Americans agree with that.
Speaker 1: Most.
Speaker 7: Now, that's not to say that most Americans can't be
Speaker 7: easily propagandaized into another war. God knows they can, and
Speaker 7: God knows they probably will be in the not too
Speaker 7: distant future. But as of now, the populist energy says
Speaker 7: no war, and the president of the United States is
Speaker 7: land basting the neo conservative movement. Let's hear from him
Speaker 7: just yesterday in Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 14: This great transformation has not come from Western intervention lists
Speaker 14: or flying people and beautiful plains giving you lectures on
Speaker 14: how to live and how to govern your own affairs.
Speaker 14: Now that leaming marvels of Riad and Abu Dhabi were
Speaker 14: not created by the so called nation builders, neocons or
Speaker 14: liberal nonprofits like those who spent trillions and trillions of
Speaker 14: dollars failing to develop Kabal Baghdad so many other cities. Instead,
Speaker 14: the birth of a modern Middle East has been brought
Speaker 14: by the people of the region themselves, the people that
Speaker 14: are right here, the people that have lived here all
Speaker 14: their lives. Developing your own sovereign countries, pursuing your own
Speaker 14: unique visions and charting your own destinies in your own way.
Speaker 14: It's really incredible what you've done. In the end, the
Speaker 14: so called nation builders wrecked far more nations than they built,
Speaker 14: and the interventional US were intervening in complex societies that
Speaker 14: they did not even understand themselves. They told you how
Speaker 14: to do it, but they had no idea how to
Speaker 14: do it themselves. Peace, prosperity, and progress ultimately came not
Speaker 14: from a radical rejection of your heritage, but rather from
Speaker 14: embracing your national traditions and embracing that same heritage that
Speaker 14: you love so dearly.
Speaker 7: What are you talking about, Trump? We'll be greeted as liberators,
Speaker 7: remember that one. Yeah, it didn't work out so hot,
Speaker 7: did it? And it wouldn't work out so hot if
Speaker 7: we were to invade or even bomb run for that matter,
Speaker 7: because we've got a lot of bases over there, and
Speaker 7: Iran would almost certainly respond and blow up and kill
Speaker 7: and nim countless American troops that are unnecessarily stationed in
Speaker 7: the Middle East right now. So there really is no
Speaker 7: war option that amounts to something that I or Trump
Speaker 7: I think wants to see. And that is really fucking
Speaker 7: good news. That is a breath of fresh air if
Speaker 7: ever there was one, and I, for one, am very
Speaker 7: grateful for it. Now, as I said before, does that
Speaker 7: mean that Trump will follow through? Does that mean that
Speaker 7: he will sign peace deals with everybody involved?
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't.
Speaker 7: But the trajectory right now looked really promising, and I
Speaker 7: think that this is the time where the non invenious
Speaker 7: libertarians ought to be lending their support in hopes that
Speaker 7: whatever little influence we may have might help get it
Speaker 7: pushed over the finish line. And I think we got
Speaker 7: a real shot. And I did not think we got
Speaker 7: a real shot just a few weeks ago. This is
Speaker 7: a tremendous shift and it's looking I mean optimistic, puts
Speaker 7: it mildly. There were rumors just a few days ago
Speaker 7: that Donald Trump was prepared to unilaterally recognize Palestinian statehood.
Speaker 7: What I mean, talk about a one point eighty from
Speaker 7: what I expected to happen with that.
Speaker 1: That would be crazy. On top of that, you now
Speaker 1: have genuine progress.
Speaker 7: Just a few hours ago, it was announced that the
Speaker 7: Iranians are prepared to sign a nuclear deproliferation or a
Speaker 7: nuclear freeze, and all that they're asking for is to
Speaker 7: bring down the sanctions, to take off the sanctions. Donald
Speaker 7: Trump just announced earlier this morning that in fact, he
Speaker 7: would be lifting the sanctions against Syria. Now this one,
Speaker 7: I'm up two minds on because al Jelani, former AQIAP
Speaker 7: or whatever Okaya guy is now the president and he's
Speaker 7: meeting with Macron, and I guess he's got meet with Trump.
Speaker 1: Very tough guy, very beautiful guy.
Speaker 7: I don't know how to feel about that, But I
Speaker 7: will say this, the Syrian people have suffered terribly for
Speaker 7: a very long time, in part in large part thanks
Speaker 7: to Operation tip Er Sycamore and CIA behavior that was
Speaker 7: basically forcing this civil war to transpire. But setting that aside,
Speaker 7: I think that the sanctions ultimately punish the people. Therefore,
Speaker 7: I would like to give Piece a chance, even if
Speaker 7: I think al Jilani is probably going to end up
Speaker 7: being a disaster, but you never know, I mean, compared
Speaker 7: to a sad We'll see, We'll see who ends up
Speaker 7: being better. Those aren't the only Piece negotiations that are transpiring.
Speaker 7: Eaden and Alexander the last, as far as I know,
Speaker 7: the last American Israeli. He's both hostage in Gaza was
Speaker 7: released once again, Wick Cough comes through. I don't know
Speaker 7: how the fuck this guy keeps pulling it off, but
Speaker 7: allegedly they didn't even have to give up anything, and
Speaker 7: he got another twenty hostages released and the final American
Speaker 7: citizen released. That is huge, huge progress, and to do
Speaker 7: it without giving anything up. Obviously it was it was
Speaker 7: framed as hey, give us this and you'll have a
Speaker 7: lot of good will. But I think more than that
Speaker 7: What it's really doing is it's taking the impetus and
Speaker 7: the justification for America to be involved any longer off
Speaker 7: the table. There are no Americans over there anymore. That
Speaker 7: used to be the argument. They used to say, Well,
Speaker 7: they've got hostages, so we have to keep bombing until
Speaker 7: we get the hostages back. The wark end until we
Speaker 7: get the hostages back, and then you go, well, I
Speaker 7: don't really care about the hostages. They're not Americans. Oh
Speaker 7: well there are some American hostages. Well now there aren't.
Speaker 7: It's totally your problem now, not ours. So that's a
Speaker 7: huge step in the right direction. And I think the
Speaker 7: reason that they negotiated that, and I think that the
Speaker 7: reason that Hamas did it is because they realized that
Speaker 7: as long as America is funding and arming the Israelis,
Speaker 7: this war ain't going to end, and it's certainly not
Speaker 7: going to win. It's not going to end with them victorious.
Speaker 7: So they're like, here, take your American hostage. You no
Speaker 7: longer have an excuse to be involved in this thing.
Speaker 7: So I think that's what's happening. But that's not all.
Speaker 7: He's also simultaneously negotiating with Putin, so he's negotiating with Hamas, Iran,
Speaker 7: and Russia all at the same time as of now,
Speaker 7: positive outcomes being promised.
Speaker 1: Remarkable.
Speaker 7: Just to show you I'm not making this up. Here's
Speaker 7: a spokesman for the Israelis on Sky News.
Speaker 4: Tell me where this is wrong.
Speaker 15: Did the Americans have any involvement in the release of
Speaker 15: the Israelis have any involvement in the release of this hostage?
Speaker 15: Have the Israelis had any involvement in the deal with
Speaker 15: the who the thees that the Americans have done? Are
Speaker 15: the Israelis talking to Iran at the moment? That's were
Speaker 15: my questions. Where am I wrong on that? Please tell
Speaker 15: me because it'll be interesting to know.
Speaker 13: We are closer than ever with our American allies. What
Speaker 13: you're sharing is a view which Israel's enemies would like
Speaker 13: to share it to the outside world. It's not just wrong,
Speaker 13: it's morally backwards. Let's not confuse the arsonists with the firefighter.
Speaker 13: We're fighting to defeat Humas in this war.
Speaker 7: Now, if you notice there, he didn't say no. He
Speaker 7: did not say no. He says it's wrong. It's morally wrong.
Speaker 7: Let's not mix the awesness with the people trying to
Speaker 7: put out the foile. It seems to be what's actually
Speaker 7: happening now. You could say there's some five D chess
Speaker 7: thing that's happening.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 7: Maybe there is, but as of now, it looks as
Speaker 7: if Trump is genuinely pissed off, and I think I know.
Speaker 6: Why no meeting with Israeli Prime Minister net Yahoo analysts
Speaker 6: have been saying recently that he is being seen by
Speaker 6: the US by the Trump administration as a roadblock in
Speaker 6: many areas that Trump.
Speaker 4: Is trying to advance.
Speaker 6: Israel, in fact, was not having much to do with
Speaker 6: this latest hostage development.
Speaker 7: But needless to say, when you have Fox News that's
Speaker 7: saying that the Trump administration perceives NTNYA who as a roadblock.
Speaker 7: That's a big deal. Now, why why are they so upset? Well,
Speaker 7: in my opinion, Signal Gate, if you guys remember that
Speaker 7: from a month go, it appears more and more likely
Speaker 7: that Israel was using Mike Waltz to back channel and
Speaker 7: betray the anti war members of the Trump administration. Instead
Speaker 7: of going after Walls, who ought to be responsible because
Speaker 7: he was the one who added in the journal into
Speaker 7: the chat, they went after Hegseth everybody went after Hegseth
Speaker 7: Pete Hegseth Secretary of Defense. Why well, it happens to
Speaker 7: me that Wolls was one of the top guys advocating
Speaker 7: to bomb the nuclear facilities in Iran along with Rubio,
Speaker 7: and heg Seth was opposed to it. So all of
Speaker 7: a sudden, this chat leak makes Hegseeth apparently on the
Speaker 7: on the chopping block, whereas Wolls is fine. But that's
Speaker 7: not how it played out. The media pressure was all
Speaker 7: heg say, Hexeth, Hegseth, Hexseth, Get him out, get him out,
Speaker 7: get him out. But how did Trump respond? He forced
Speaker 7: out Walls as the National Security Advisor and sent him
Speaker 7: to the United Nations, the same place that he sent
Speaker 7: Nikki Haley during his first presidential administration. If you're recall, so,
Speaker 7: it seems to me like Trump uses the United Nations
Speaker 7: station to get rid of malcontents. He just ships He's like,
Speaker 7: get out of here, don't want to deal with you.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna read a synopsis for you from another one
Speaker 7: of my buddies, Harrison Smith, also of Info Wars, says,
Speaker 7: let me get this straight. Israel bombed the shit out
Speaker 7: of everyone around them. For over a year, which eliminated
Speaker 7: Iran's proxies but pissed off everyone in the world. So
Speaker 7: now they have a brief window of opportunity to take
Speaker 7: out Iran, and if they don't, the backlash will be massive.
Speaker 7: But they can't actually defeat Iran without American troops on
Speaker 7: the ground, So they are frantically trying to get Trump
Speaker 7: to launch a war with net Yahoo, visiting DC three
Speaker 7: times in three months with nothing to show for it
Speaker 7: but a bombing campaign against the Huthies. Despite being seemingly
Speaker 7: surrounded by militant scionists, Trump's team has mostly pursued diplomatic solutions,
Speaker 7: even talking to Iran against the explicit wishes of Israel.
Speaker 7: A rift formed between pro ineventionalists, he says, inventionalists too.
Speaker 7: It's pro interventionists.
Speaker 1: Damn it.
Speaker 7: You and Trump got a roan like Mike Walt's an
Speaker 7: empty interventionists like Pete Hegseth. Hegsath then started facing immense
Speaker 7: media pressure, with his top anti war aids being forced
Speaker 7: out of the Pentagon on flimsy accusations of leaking, some
Speaker 7: of which went on to be guests on Tucker Carlson,
Speaker 7: which you should check out. Then Waltz added the editor
Speaker 7: of the leftist magazine The Atlantic to a signal to
Speaker 7: that chat That's Goldberg, where the Yemen war was being discussed.
Speaker 7: After the chats were leaked, Hegseth got the brunt of
Speaker 7: the blowback for some reason, and when he refused to
Speaker 7: resign over it, a second signal gate scandal was launched
Speaker 7: to accuse him of sharing classified info to his wife. Walls, meantime,
Speaker 7: appointed a former member of Israel's miniature Ministry of Defense
Speaker 7: to oversee Iran and Israel policy on the NSC, that's
Speaker 7: the National Security Council. Eventually, Walls was forced to resign
Speaker 7: after he was discovered coordinating with that Yahoo to push
Speaker 7: a pro war agenda in secret and against the orders
Speaker 7: of Trump. Then, in the last few days, Trump cut
Speaker 7: off communication with the YAHO, dropped the requirement for Saudi
Speaker 7: Arabia normalized relations with Israel, canceled hegxsa's trip to Israel,
Speaker 7: and even announced that the US is going to recognize
Speaker 7: a Palestinian state. Suddenly, it's been announced that multiple gigantic
Speaker 7: advanced nuclear production facilities have not only been discovered in Iran,
Speaker 7: but are known to be using material only used in
Speaker 7: nuclear weapons, not a energy production. And Trump leaves for
Speaker 7: the Mid East on Monday. Oh boy, nailed it nailed
Speaker 7: at Harrison. He and I saw that identically, So I
Speaker 7: just wanted to read the recap because it helps helps
Speaker 7: get some of the details in there that I probably
Speaker 7: would have left on the cutting room floor if I'm
Speaker 7: just ad libbing.
Speaker 1: But that's the whole thing, that's the whole picture.
Speaker 7: Now, as I said many times already in this episode,
Speaker 7: all of this could fall apart. We could end up
Speaker 7: being in war with Iran in a week. But as
Speaker 7: of now, it sure doesn't look like it. It looks
Speaker 7: like Trump is for real negotiating to basically align the
Speaker 7: United States with the Saudis and with the Middle East
Speaker 7: instead of the Israelis are top Middle Eastern ally seems
Speaker 7: as if they're being replaced. And what I think is
Speaker 7: really interesting about this is that China had actually brokeered
Speaker 7: the peace talks between Saudi Arabia and Iran just a
Speaker 7: couple of years ago, and now it looks like Trump
Speaker 7: has decided. Hey, and this is my read of it,
Speaker 7: so you know, take it with a grain of salt.
Speaker 7: But I think that because the Saudis trading in the
Speaker 7: US dollar, and the petro dollar system is predicated off
Speaker 7: of that continuation. I think that Trump and his economic advisors,
Speaker 7: more than anything, said we need to get right with
Speaker 7: the Saudis. If that means we have to abandon our
Speaker 7: relationship with the Israelis, so be it. Because we have
Speaker 7: to have a positive relationship with the Saudis. And if
Speaker 7: the Saudis getting bed with the Chinese, well then we're fucked.
Speaker 7: So priority number one is to assuage the Saudis. You
Speaker 7: don't have to like it. I'm not saying I like
Speaker 7: it either, but that's what it looks like to me.
Speaker 7: So much so that Katar, whose allies with the Saudis,
Speaker 7: I imagine, is offering to give a new air force
Speaker 7: one to the Trump administration, well not to the United
Speaker 7: States federal government. And it looks as if everybody is
Speaker 7: trying to buddy buddy with the US. And it looks
Speaker 7: as if we are swapping allies in the Middle East,
Speaker 7: something I never thought i'd see. Never, I mean, to
Speaker 7: abandon the Israelis and go towards the Islamists is mind blowing.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 7: Mark Levin makes some good points actually, despite the fact
Speaker 7: that I despise him. It is true that the Saudis
Speaker 7: were involved, and most of the hijackers on nine to
Speaker 7: eleven were from Saudi Arabia. So I'm not saying that
Speaker 7: this allyship will be any more fruitful or one that
Speaker 7: I should be any more optimistic about than it is
Speaker 7: the one with the Israelis. It could lead to other
Speaker 7: wars on behalf of Saudi Arabia if they go all
Speaker 7: the way that direction. That's a distinct possibility. But I
Speaker 7: still think that it's preferable than what looked to be
Speaker 7: an minute war with Iran, one that, in my opinion,
Speaker 7: would be the death knell for the United States Empire
Speaker 7: as it exists today, and probably the death of the dollar.
Speaker 7: It gives us a chance at peace. At least, it
Speaker 7: gives us a chance at peaceful relationships with the Middle East,
Speaker 7: which God knows we need and more than we need it.
Speaker 1: They do.
Speaker 7: Holy shit, they've been through hell. So Figers crossed TVD.
Speaker 7: Here's another good reason we shouldn't want war with Iran.
Speaker 4: I give the Muslim country's credit. They'd punch above their
Speaker 4: way class every day they go what the because what
Speaker 4: are you looking at? Mother? Balastin went domb on them.
Speaker 4: They really are crazy?
Speaker 8: You are?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Pakistan? Who is gas in Pakistan?
Speaker 8: I was.
Speaker 4: Pakistan's day one? Do you taught that? And they be?
Speaker 4: They both have nukes? Who are going? Dude, we can
Speaker 4: do it right now. I don't know why.
Speaker 2: I feel like Pakistan gets some nukes from where, like
Speaker 2: the coyote gets them from.
Speaker 7: ACME as obviously just a comedic interlude there, but that's
Speaker 7: uh Mat and Shane Gillis from Matt and Shaine Secret Podcasts.
Speaker 7: But yeah, there is a hot war between nuclear powers
Speaker 7: right now in India and Pakistan. And yeah, the Islamic
Speaker 7: world don't play yo, the fuck are you looking at?
Speaker 7: They're pretty serious, man. So I'd like to not, could
Speaker 7: we not? Let's not thirty seven and jillion in debt.
Speaker 7: We've already got so much civil strife and cultural degradation here, No,
Speaker 7: no thanks? And might I add we were just funding
Speaker 7: a proxy war against another nuclear power in Russia. So yeah,
Speaker 7: and I forgot there's so much good shit happening. I
Speaker 7: forgot that Trump was also negotiating and did with the
Speaker 7: Houthis and Yemen and basically ended that bombing campaign.
Speaker 1: And that's over now phenomenal.
Speaker 5: Ben sh Hero built a career opposing identity politics as
Speaker 5: a proud Zionist.
Speaker 4: Yeah, now you.
Speaker 5: Listen, Phil, However you feel about Zionism, it's identity politics.
Speaker 4: Like that is the.
Speaker 5: Definition of it. You could not find a better example
Speaker 5: of a politics built on an identity. And yet you're
Speaker 5: out here saying facts don't care about your feelings. Identity
Speaker 5: politics is wrong. And then while you're saying that your
Speaker 5: number one priority, I know, is this this manifestation of
Speaker 5: identity politics. You can only keep that charade going for
Speaker 5: so long. No, It's totally true. Before someone sees through it.
Speaker 3: There's something in people that the lowest part of people
Speaker 3: that instinctively accuses others of doing what they're doing. And
Speaker 3: I've never really, man, I don't That's the one thing
Speaker 3: I don't want to be as a guy who does that.
Speaker 3: But I remember Bill Christopher I worked for for years
Speaker 3: and really liked and was grateful to, And he was
Speaker 3: great bawt in the nineties and came out against me
Speaker 3: and called me a Nazi and all this stuff, like
Speaker 3: without calling me, by the way, I called him and
Speaker 3: asked him to lunch.
Speaker 1: She refused.
Speaker 3: He wouldn't go to lunch with me. Huhm end of
Speaker 3: our relationship. But one of the criticisms against me, I'll
Speaker 3: never forget it. When I realized this phenomenon was real
Speaker 3: is when he accused me of advocating and I'm quoting
Speaker 3: for an Ethno state. Now, I have a lot of flaws.
Speaker 3: They're all on display. I've never wanted an Eathno state.
Speaker 3: And it's like, wait, one of us is for an
Speaker 3: Ethno state and it's not me.
Speaker 7: I think that's a really profound point and a very
Speaker 7: obvious one that if you believe in a Jewish state,
Speaker 7: well then definitionally you believe in support identity politics. Now
Speaker 7: you can say, oh, well, we have to have ours
Speaker 7: because of the injustice and persecution that we've suffered. Okay,
Speaker 7: but just acknowledge that's the exact same argument that African
Speaker 7: Americans had made when it came to reparations, that sure,
Speaker 7: this is unfortunate, but call it whatever you want. The
Speaker 7: injustice waged against us historically justifies the identity politics with
Speaker 7: which we function today. It's the exact same argument, and
Speaker 7: it is definitionally woke, which is exactly why they tried
Speaker 7: to front run it and call us the woke right,
Speaker 7: because the actual woke right, or the people that stand
Speaker 7: with the Ethno state in the Middle East known as Israel,
Speaker 7: not an accident, not an accident that they started to
Speaker 7: call us woke right just because it was coming for
Speaker 7: them eventually. So might as well mirror that on your
Speaker 7: opponents before they can deliver the blow against you. What's
Speaker 7: funny about it is that I never even considered saying that,
Speaker 7: because it was just such a given that the pro
Speaker 7: Israel Zionist right wing were the wokests.
Speaker 1: Obviously, I never felt like it was.
Speaker 7: Necessary to smear my opponents on the right, primarily because
Speaker 7: I don't really view myself as being on the right,
Speaker 7: even though I probably am at this point, but also
Speaker 7: because I felt like the merits of my arguments would
Speaker 7: stand up without any bullshit labels if I called them anything.
Speaker 7: I called them neo conservatives, because that's what they called themselves.
Speaker 7: But apparently that also isn't allowed anymore, as we discovered
Speaker 7: from Douglas Murray.
Speaker 5: Dous Murray wrote the book called Neo Conservatism, Why We
Speaker 5: Need It. It was his book, and so what happened
Speaker 5: was for people who don't like know you know a
Speaker 5: lot about this.
Speaker 1: It's there was.
Speaker 5: A this was their term. The neo conservative was not
Speaker 5: a pejorative term until the neo conservative's got control of
Speaker 5: our foreign policy and ruined everything.
Speaker 7: Yeah, neo conservatism wasn't a pejorative until neo conservatism was
Speaker 7: tried and failed miserably and we got to see it
Speaker 7: firsthand and suffer the consequences of it. And now we
Speaker 7: use it as a pejorative against you because your ideology
Speaker 7: fucking sucks.
Speaker 1: And I make no apologies for saying that.
Speaker 7: But what you notice about this is that it wasn't
Speaker 7: just neo conservative, it was also Wolfowitz. When when Dave
Speaker 7: Smith brought up Wolfowitz, that's when Douglas Murry said, oh,
Speaker 7: bring up a Jewish name, the N word. Uh, it's
Speaker 7: just so obvious what they're doing. So they're trying to
Speaker 7: take away the labels that we can use against them,
Speaker 7: which are totally apt. If you can't call a guy
Speaker 7: who wrote neo conservatism why we need it, if you
Speaker 7: can't call him a neocon, well then you fucking can't
Speaker 7: call anybody that. But also, once they've already tried to
Speaker 7: strip away the use of the in word, they also
Speaker 7: tried to apply a label which is so much more
Speaker 7: aptly applied to them, the woke right, and they tried
Speaker 7: to apply it to us, which.
Speaker 1: Is mind blowing.
Speaker 7: But it's only mind blowing if you don't understand the
Speaker 7: incentive structure, if you don't understand the tactical play here,
Speaker 7: which I know you guys now do, because I've laid
Speaker 7: it out excruciating with inexcruciating detail over the past month.
Speaker 1: Couldn't be more.
Speaker 7: They were attempting to defame the populist, non interventionist right
Speaker 7: wing movement that was on the upturn and try and
Speaker 7: crush it in its infancy. Well, you failed. And as
Speaker 7: a consequence of that, James Lindsay, who as far as
Speaker 7: I'm concerned, was deployed to employ this tactic, has now
Speaker 7: lost his mind as a consequence of it.
Speaker 1: And I genuinely believe that.
Speaker 7: First up, you have someone saying, apparently the new Pope
Speaker 7: said communism has penetrated even Christian circles disguised as disguised
Speaker 7: as solidarity. It is our pastoral duty to expose it.
Speaker 7: Doctor Taylor Marshall responds, let us stand in full agreement
Speaker 7: with his holiness, Pope Leo the fourteenth on this point,
Speaker 7: and then James lindsay Quot tweets it and says, no,
Speaker 7: you don't. If you did, I'd be your leader instead
Speaker 7: of kicked to the curb. Stupid fascist. You're not anti communists,
Speaker 7: you're communist one step removed, and given how the PRC runs,
Speaker 7: that's China zero steps today. So basically he's saying you
Speaker 7: are communist, you know an anti communists, you are communists.
Speaker 1: But it gets better.
Speaker 7: He also posted one of the worst memes I've ever seen,
Speaker 7: says there's no such thing as the woke right. Then
Speaker 7: he says these are all tweets from other people, but
Speaker 7: he put it together. Then Michael McConnell says, better a
Speaker 7: woke right than a week right than Sternovich says Marx
Speaker 7: is an excellent writer and the critical theories have made
Speaker 7: excellent points about capitalism and its successes. Then Matt Walsh says,
Speaker 7: oh no, maybe I am woke right after all.
Speaker 1: And then a.
Speaker 7: Guy literally known as Literal Skizzo says it's inevitable and
Speaker 7: there is nothing you can do to stop it. Everyone
Speaker 7: will fall in line eventually when we the woke right
Speaker 7: take control of the right wing. This is where it
Speaker 7: gets totally nuts. So this Matt Walsh tweet in particular,
Speaker 7: he says, oh no, maybe I am woke right after all.
Speaker 7: Let me show you the context of that. Matt Walsh
Speaker 7: said a couple of years ago, he said, what people
Speaker 7: don't seem to understand is that Arby's is actually the
Speaker 7: best fast food.
Speaker 1: So obviously he's a big fan of Arby's.
Speaker 7: Arby's posts a tweet that says, unlike Dad, Ram and
Speaker 7: Swiss actually came.
Speaker 1: Back, which is just a stupid joke. But whatever.
Speaker 7: James Lindsay quote tweets an Arby's advertisement and he says,
Speaker 7: Arby's trying to appeal to the Wolke right demo that's
Speaker 7: curtains for them.
Speaker 1: Cringe as fuck.
Speaker 7: And Matt Wallas quote tweets that what with the screenshots,
Speaker 7: and he says, oh no, maybe I am wolf right
Speaker 7: after all. So he's obviously making a joke. But does
Speaker 7: that stop James Lindsay from using it in his own
Speaker 7: meme to try and prove out that his thesis is
Speaker 7: in fact valid. No, it does not stop him. So
Speaker 7: it's very obvious to me that James Lindsay felt as
Speaker 7: if he should have been the leader of the right wing,
Speaker 7: which is fucking mind blowing because he was a lefty
Speaker 7: his entire life. He was a college professor, for God's sake.
Speaker 7: So you basically change your mind, You swing over to
Speaker 7: the right just during the last election, and you think
Speaker 7: that you should be the ideological leader of an entire movement.
Speaker 7: What So, there's a mixture of op being ran paired
Speaker 7: with narcissism and ego astronomical ego, but he is. He
Speaker 7: has opted to go to war with all of the
Speaker 7: people that are actual ideological leaders of the right wing,
Speaker 7: like Cernovich, like Pasobic, like Sargon of a God, everybody, everybody.
Speaker 7: He's even got a war with me, for God's sakes.
Speaker 7: And I'm not I'm far from a leader of it,
Speaker 7: but it's just wild. He's also take shots at Dave
Speaker 7: Smith constantly. But the reason I know that it's not
Speaker 7: just that he wants to be the leader of the right,
Speaker 7: but it's specifically targeted at the non interventionist right wing
Speaker 7: is that he goes after Dave and I that's not
Speaker 7: an accident in my view. Now, certainly we have decent followings,
Speaker 7: and maybe you could perceive us as being some some
Speaker 7: level of leadership on the right. But I think that specifically,
Speaker 7: the reason that he's he's gone after us is because
Speaker 7: we have really good arguments against the wars in the
Speaker 7: Middle East and really really good arguments against neo conservatism
Speaker 7: writ large. So you might as well just put a
Speaker 7: tiny little bow around everybody, from Nick Fuenttes all Lloyd
Speaker 7: to Dave Smith. Might as well just get everybody that
Speaker 7: disagrees with you on anything and called them all woke.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 7: Unfortunately for you, mister Lindsey, is that that showed your hand.
Speaker 7: It showed that you are not just concerned about identitarianism,
Speaker 7: because if that's all you were concerned with, you certainly
Speaker 7: wouldn't have wrapped into this descriptor a Jewish guy who's
Speaker 7: a non interventionist, who is not identitarian and does not
Speaker 7: want there to be any sort of white nationalism. Dave
Speaker 7: Smith specifically, who I'm talking about. You tried to label
Speaker 7: him that as well. Oops, So now everybody sees what's happening.
Speaker 7: Here's the sad thing I think, and I mean this sincerely,
Speaker 7: and I feel bad for James honestly because I liked
Speaker 7: some of his work when he was kind of explaining
Speaker 7: the ideology behind the woke Left.
Speaker 1: I found it educational, but I gotta be honest.
Speaker 7: Now it's making me feel like if you've ever heard
Speaker 7: of the gell Man amnesia effect, it's this phenomenon where
Speaker 7: when you're reading a news article about his subject that
Speaker 7: you're an expert on. Like I'll give you an example.
Speaker 7: Whenever I read a news publication or coverage from a
Speaker 7: news channel, even about lending, mortgage, mortgage rates, financing debt,
Speaker 7: the banking system, any of that, that's like my area
Speaker 7: of expertise. I can immediately identify all of the biases
Speaker 7: of the author and all of the flaws in the
Speaker 7: argument that they make.
Speaker 1: But then I go over to.
Speaker 7: Some other subject I'm not an expert on, and I go, well,
Speaker 7: this is probably true though. That's the amnesia aspect of
Speaker 7: the gell Man amnesia effect. I'm now applying that same
Speaker 7: lesson to James Lindsay. I'm thinking to myself, well, he
Speaker 7: still had good points on the Wolke Left stuff.
Speaker 1: Well maybe he fucking didn't.
Speaker 7: Maybe he was wrong about that too, and that just
Speaker 7: wasn't my area of expertise, and therefore I took him
Speaker 7: more seriously than I should have now I'm not saying
Speaker 7: that's true.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I'd have to do way more research into Marxism to
Speaker 7: actually understand if he would bullshit me on that too.
Speaker 7: But I'll tell you one thing I know for a
Speaker 7: fucking fact, as soon as you started to go after
Speaker 7: the non inventionist populist right wingers libertarians like me, I
Speaker 7: knew for a fact that this guy was not a
Speaker 7: honest operator. And as far as I'm concerned, as soon
Speaker 7: as I identify that in your character structure at all,
Speaker 7: you are dismissed. Good sir, You are dismissed for my
Speaker 7: good graces, and you are dismissed from me taking you
Speaker 7: seriously moving forward unless you make amends for that misstep.
Speaker 7: And it seems at this junction as if he has
Speaker 7: no interest in making amends for that misstep. And that's fine.
Speaker 7: It's his life delayed. I don't give a shit. He's
Speaker 7: obliterating his own career, his own reputation as a consequence
Speaker 7: of this incredibly misguided decision. But that's his choice to make.
Speaker 7: And just to show you that I'm not just making
Speaker 7: this up, let's check out the highlight of his sit
Speaker 7: down with mister psychopath himself, Jordan Peterson and mister Wolkewright himself,
Speaker 7: James Lindsay just a couple days ago.
Speaker 10: So Lucifer is the morning Star, and he's the angel
Speaker 10: of the untrammeled intellect.
Speaker 4: That's that's how he's portrayed.
Speaker 10: In Milk right, and he's allied in some strange way
Speaker 10: with the serpent in the garden.
Speaker 16: To be if I might just introject, if he's the
Speaker 16: morning Star, what do you do in the morning after
Speaker 16: the morning Star rises, you wake up right woke, right.
Speaker 7: Right right, hids you better never go to sleep lest
Speaker 7: you wake up and become woke like me and Dave Smith.
Speaker 7: Oh god, Oh, I mean, it's sad. I kind of
Speaker 7: I'm embarrassed. I think I'm embarrassed that I spoke so
Speaker 7: highly of James Lindsay in the past, only to see
Speaker 7: what he's become, What has become of you, James. Goodness,
Speaker 7: gracious man. It just bums me out. It bums me out.
Speaker 7: And I'll be honest, like, I watched that whole interview,
Speaker 7: that whole hour and a half or however long it
Speaker 7: was between James Lindsay and Jordan Peterson, two men that
Speaker 7: I used to respect a lot. It seems as if
Speaker 7: confirmation bias is feeding upon itself in a ravenous fashion.
Speaker 7: The way he perceives everything is that if he gets pushedback,
Speaker 7: he's over the target. If he gets pushed back from allies,
Speaker 7: he's over the target. If anybody comes to him in
Speaker 7: confidence basically and says, hey, dude, I think you're wrong
Speaker 7: about this, which I did countless times over the past year.
Speaker 7: As soon as he started this entire operation, I said, hey, man,
Speaker 7: let me just explain to you why I think you're
Speaker 7: wrong here and why you should narrow down the definition
Speaker 7: of the woke right lest you encompass far too many
Speaker 7: people and you ultimately make it worthless. And he dismissed me,
Speaker 7: and he dismissed countless other people who, all in good faith,
Speaker 7: did the same thing. But because he gets ratioed on everything,
Speaker 7: he now perceives that and I shit you not. You
Speaker 7: can watch the interview with Jane with Jordan Peterson. He
Speaker 7: believes that every time he gets ratioed, it's because there's
Speaker 7: bot networks that are functioning against him, Like this is
Speaker 7: like full schizophrenia. Breakdown everything that he gets dunked, he
Speaker 7: goes knew it. I was nailed it, one hundred percent
Speaker 7: correct as always, James, just bat in one thousand over here.
Speaker 1: That's not the case, James.
Speaker 7: The reason that you're losing followers, the reason that you
Speaker 7: get ratioed on everything despite blocking everybody under the sun,
Speaker 7: is because your ideas fucking suck right now, because you're
Speaker 7: you're doing one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.
Speaker 7: You're trying to make it seem as if Pat Buchanan,
Speaker 7: of all people, is it has an impermissible worldview for
Speaker 7: the right wing, for the modern iteration of the populace
Speaker 7: right wing. Well, sorry, James, a former liberal was never
Speaker 7: going to be the leader of the right. It was
Speaker 7: not gonna happen. That's the truth. And Pat Buchanan, along
Speaker 7: with Ron Paul had had demonstrated their prescience time and
Speaker 7: time again over decades. Whereas you wrote a bunch of
Speaker 7: papers and submitted them to prove how fucked up academia was,
Speaker 7: and you thought that gave you the credit to be
Speaker 7: the leader of the right right there next to Donald Trump.
Speaker 7: What no, was never gonna happen. And the pushback you're
Speaker 7: receiving is legitimate. And when Carl Benjamin aka Sargon of
Speaker 7: God demolishes you over and over again. He's not doing
Speaker 7: that out of malice. He's actually a very nice person.
Speaker 7: He's doing it because you're fucking wrong, and you ought
Speaker 7: to listen to the critique that he's levying. And while
Speaker 7: you're at it, you gotta listen to mine. I tried
Speaker 7: to and good faith keep you from going down this
Speaker 7: path because I knew it would be destructive and I
Speaker 7: knew it would be divisive. And what I've concluded is
Speaker 7: that it's either your ego and narcissism that has gotten
Speaker 7: in the way of you realizing the error of your ways,
Speaker 7: or you're being paid as an operative to continue to
Speaker 7: perpetuate this unbelievably utter garbage argument. And at this point
Speaker 7: I don't care which it is. You're wrong and you've
Speaker 7: either lost your mind or you're soldier soul. Either way,
Speaker 7: I'll pray for you, Bud, and I know, as an atheist,
Speaker 7: she'll appreciate that. As you guys can tell, I took
Speaker 7: two full weeks off because I moved. I moved, and
Speaker 7: it took me over a week to move everything up here,
Speaker 7: and then it took me a full week to get
Speaker 7: the studio set up. Actually it took me a little
Speaker 7: bit less than that, but I had to do some
Speaker 7: other things and get inspired and come up with you
Speaker 7: know what I was going to talk about. So I'm
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Speaker 7: bad that I didn't put out a show for two
Speaker 7: weeks and shout out to the dozens of you that
Speaker 7: dmme or texted me or whatever saying, hey, man, just
Speaker 7: making sure you're okay.
Speaker 1: I'm going through withdrawals. What the fuck's up?
Speaker 7: Well, now you know, and I told you at the
Speaker 7: end of the last episode I put out I'm gonna
Speaker 7: be off for a week at least, so I was.
Speaker 7: It just happened end up being two weeks. That's on me.
Speaker 7: That's the second week is my fault. First week not
Speaker 7: so much. You should have been prepared for that, but
Speaker 7: second one definitely on my shoulders. Anyways, I'll catch you
Speaker 7: guys soon. We're out of here.
Speaker 5: It's not good for you, it's not good for the conflict,
Speaker 5: it's not good for the country. I just don't think
Speaker 5: any of racial collectivism always leads to uh place.
Speaker 1: We agree.
Speaker 5: You don't want to, you don't want to embrace that stuff.
Speaker 5: But if you're concerned about that, well, then the first
Speaker 5: thing you have to do is tell the truth.
Speaker 4: Welcome to liberty lockdown.
Speaker 1: Let's get your plock home.
Speaker 5: Your liberty ain't come.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's a whol.
Speaker 1: It's where did it come from and where did he