Speaker 1: Welcome to the five o'clock show. It's time for common sense.
Speaker 1: Now it's Kats and Gosby with John Catsimatids and Rita
Speaker 1: Gosby standing for truth, justice and the American Way bringing
Speaker 1: common sense to the world. Now here's John Katsimatids and
Speaker 1: Ria Gosby.
Speaker 2: Well, it is a big countdown and that is because
Speaker 2: poles are going to be closing in a matter of
Speaker 2: hours in Michigan and Missouri. And the biggie in Michigan,
Speaker 2: Judge Weinberg, that guy in Michigan crazy. He is like
Speaker 2: one of the most extreme radical candidates. I think that
Speaker 2: the Democrats have this season.
Speaker 3: Radical socialist islamis for him. And you supported the people
Speaker 3: who think that nine to eleven was well deserved. I
Speaker 3: mean really, and I'll tell you what's really troubling today.
Speaker 4: What twenty fifth anniversary of nine to eleven? This this
Speaker 4: garage jumping around saying that that we deserve nine to eleven.
Speaker 3: I mean, is this the most ridiculous thing in the world.
Speaker 2: Well, he's hanging around Hassan Piker, who is and and
Speaker 2: he has been advocating for Hamas. He's been saying Israel's evil.
Speaker 2: He's saying, defund the police.
Speaker 4: Open borders.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a radical. This is a very radical extremist.
Speaker 2: And he's been pelling around with the dearborn mayor. And
Speaker 2: that dearborn mayor is the guy who like told people
Speaker 2: of Catholic faith and Christian faith that you're not welcome.
Speaker 4: What are the numbers here? What are the numbers here?
Speaker 4: Number trouble, he's troublem. But I'll tell you two things. Well,
Speaker 4: we're going to know the numbers tonight.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, the numbers right now, he's ahead by
Speaker 3: Eight's all crack right.
Speaker 4: I agree, it's all crap. Good I help. Your numbers
Speaker 4: are tonight.
Speaker 2: And obviously, you guys, the key issue is this is
Speaker 2: a democratic primary.
Speaker 3: Well, what is she going to do if she loses?
Speaker 3: Is she gonna endorse them? Well, by the way, she's
Speaker 3: gonna do the right thing, Jo and sand for this country.
Speaker 2: You just hit the exact right point, because she's already
Speaker 2: come out even though they're obviously trading barbs. They're in
Speaker 2: the primary. Haley Stevens, who's quote considered the more moderate
Speaker 2: against abdulah l say ed, I think anybody's more moderate
Speaker 2: compared to him. Both of them have already said they're
Speaker 2: going to endorse the other, that they will support whoever
Speaker 2: wins against Mike Rogers. She's a great candidate.
Speaker 3: So she's supporting the takeover of the Democratic Party by
Speaker 3: the Socialists and the Islamist How wonderful of that.
Speaker 2: Yes, because she is already saying whatever it is, she's
Speaker 2: going to support that individual that already sends.
Speaker 4: A very interous message party over country.
Speaker 2: It's a scary thing. And this guy in particular is
Speaker 2: very troubling. I mean when you see his background. To me,
Speaker 2: the people he's hanging around with, every single squad member
Speaker 2: has been supporting this guy. And you look at the rhetoric.
Speaker 2: It's a very visceral. It's we're gonna scream. He's screaming
Speaker 2: about fascism. His his views on Israel, everything is anti Israel.
Speaker 2: He is downright anti Semitic, dangerous. I agree, very trouble.
Speaker 3: But to your point, Bank Goards, Mike Rogers is going
Speaker 3: to be the Republican candidate. Former chairman of Hause Intelligence Committee,
Speaker 3: former FBI agent, a buriant guy, a real patriarch, and
Speaker 3: somebody could be a great senator.
Speaker 4: Now you know, someday we're gonna have to have a
Speaker 4: real discussion that all these people have want to become
Speaker 4: American citizens, of all these people that don't really love
Speaker 4: America to become an American citizen. I remember I was
Speaker 4: six years old. I remember when I took my American citizenship. Example,
Speaker 4: you have to pledge allegiance to the year flag and
Speaker 4: to America. Are these people still are going to do it?
Speaker 4: Are they falsely.
Speaker 5: Doing Even if they do it, John, I won't believe it.
Speaker 5: They're going to just do it for the sake of getting.
Speaker 4: But not want. But yeah, they have to pledge allegiance. Yes,
Speaker 4: So if they get the American citizenship papers, the next
Speaker 4: day they're burning the flag, you can take back the
Speaker 4: American citizenship.
Speaker 2: What do you think? It's an interesting point because how
Speaker 2: are they pledging allegiance to this country if they're supporting Hamas,
Speaker 2: which is a terrorist group fighting against America. And how
Speaker 2: about the woman in New York, you guys who was
Speaker 2: washing her hands with the American flag?
Speaker 4: What about a probation period?
Speaker 5: What about some kind of a probation period when they
Speaker 5: become American citizens.
Speaker 2: Well some of them do it at birth and then
Speaker 2: when they're twenty they start spewing this hate Judge Weinberg.
Speaker 3: Which is exactly why you shouldn't have birthright citizenship because
Speaker 3: they have no test of loyalty in this country.
Speaker 4: Doctor Oz is on, we don't want you to bring
Speaker 4: them in.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. We have the great doctor Oz, who is the
Speaker 2: administrator for US centers from Medicare and Medicaid services. And
Speaker 2: doctor Oz, you had some big announcements today, massive amounts
Speaker 2: of fraud, including in New York, but elsewhere. Tell us
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 6: Today we had a big press event based on a
Speaker 6: series of arrests indictments that took place over the last
Speaker 6: few days in Philadelphia. John has a nexus with Pennsylvania.
Speaker 6: It's my home state, my home city. So it's particularly
Speaker 6: painful to have to acknowledge that we've got a major problem.
Speaker 6: And we focused on a couple big areas. One of
Speaker 6: them is personal care services. These are again when you
Speaker 6: know you're having your kids getting paid to do things
Speaker 6: for you that historically your family would just do for you.
Speaker 6: And that job, being a personal care service, which most
Speaker 6: people never heard of, is the number one job in
Speaker 6: New York, it's a number one job in California, and
Speaker 6: it turns out it's a number one job in Pennsylvania,
Speaker 6: and these are shockingly big numbers. Two hundred thousand people
Speaker 6: in Pennsylvania have half a million in New York. In
Speaker 6: your's the closest competitor, which are retail sales, you have
Speaker 6: twice as many people doing this personal care service stuff.
Speaker 6: So the fraud in Pennsylvania has gotten so bad again.
Speaker 6: This is fraud for the taxpayers paying for services never rendered.
Speaker 6: That We held the press conference across from the federal jail,
Speaker 6: the place where you would get held, and there were
Speaker 6: people in that jail who were billing or getting billed
Speaker 6: for personal care services, literally in jail. They In one case,
Speaker 6: a man and his wife had conspired. The wife was
Speaker 6: pretending to take care of the husband, charging the state
Speaker 6: a lot of money, and he was in jail the
Speaker 6: whole time. There was another guy, These are true stories.
Speaker 6: You can't make this stuff up. He was getting arrested
Speaker 6: for a drug defense. While the cops were about to handcuff,
Speaker 6: he said, I just check out of my job at
Speaker 6: home health care. And he said, what are you talking about?
Speaker 6: He says, I'm a home care agent. I'm one of
Speaker 6: these people. I'm getting paid right now while i'm selling drugs.
Speaker 6: So in fact, a lot of people doing it. And
Speaker 6: they said, well, but I mean we're going.
Speaker 7: To arrest you for that too. He said, were you
Speaker 7: going to arrest the entire city of Philadelphia? We're all
Speaker 7: doing it. Another criminals said, were the best kept secret
Speaker 7: they ever heard of. Everyone's making a fortune on this stuff.
Speaker 7: But the problem is you can't get service and you
Speaker 7: need it, especially folks who are suffering, who are vulnerable
Speaker 7: that's waiting in line to get services. They can't because
Speaker 7: Froster is taking all the money. So you know, in
Speaker 7: Pennsylvania very concretely ranks worst five nationally and how much
Speaker 7: money we're spending, both the number of people but also
Speaker 7: number of money made by the providers. Most of the
Speaker 7: folks here in Pennsylvania are pissed off, upset about this terribly,
Speaker 7: and so we have been taking aggressive stance this year.
Speaker 7: By the way, I was in Maine yesterday, massive problem
Speaker 7: there as well, also around in that case autism, folks
Speaker 7: getting home care, but when they have the developmental disabilities.
Speaker 7: And in Maine, interestingly, most of the people doing this seem
Speaker 7: to be from Central Africa. They're from Rwanda and a
Speaker 7: Democratic Republic of Congo, and they were brought to the
Speaker 7: state by nonprofit organizations which made money by doing it.
Speaker 7: Planted these people who are not running these big businesses
Speaker 7: abusing the folks that are in those places.
Speaker 2: Wow. So it's sort of like a like a cycle.
Speaker 2: It's like they've got like a whole sort of operation, right,
Speaker 2: doctor oz Well.
Speaker 6: The accusations go deeper. They involve again I'm not I
Speaker 6: don't have personal evidence of this, but sending money back
Speaker 6: to militia in uh Rwanda in Central Africa.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 6: In this uh you know situation in Pennsylvania, the money
Speaker 6: is obviously part of a larger organized criminal effort. I
Speaker 6: was at the site of a bus where the investigators
Speaker 6: went in to collect boxes after boxes of information that
Speaker 6: links these different groups together. Because it's not just who's
Speaker 6: actually you know, charging the money. These a criminal syndicate,
Speaker 6: a multinational often criminal syndicate that controls this web, intricate
Speaker 6: web of criminal groups. So the same folks in Philadelphia
Speaker 6: who are selling drugs are also selling services, and they
Speaker 6: like building medicaid more. It's safer you don't go to jail.
Speaker 6: If you do go to jail, you know, you'll steal
Speaker 6: a couple of million bucks go to jail for eighteen months.
Speaker 6: You don't go to a jail for drug trafficking or
Speaker 6: a bank robbery. It's a lot to heftier penalty. So
Speaker 6: we have taught criminals to take advantage of our healthcare system.
Speaker 6: And the part that's frustrating is it wasn't like this.
Speaker 6: These programs were built in a high trust society. America
Speaker 6: over the last five years has become a low trust
Speaker 6: society ten point dropped by the way and how much
Speaker 6: we trust our neighbors from fifty five to forty five
Speaker 6: and what that does. It's really important, but most people
Speaker 6: don't trust their neighbors. All of a sudden, everyone thinks
Speaker 6: they got to get away with it. They know that
Speaker 6: everyone's lying to them, so they want the air a little
Speaker 6: piece of the of the action. And they're not just
Speaker 6: stealing your money, they're stilling your health. They're stealing your trust.
Speaker 6: And that's what's becoming evident as we look at the
Speaker 6: evidence in Philadelphia in particular, where everyone seems to be
Speaker 6: involved and if you're not taking your piece of the action,
Speaker 6: you're full.
Speaker 4: It is. It is mind boggling how far done we
Speaker 4: went on this. I mean this started. This wasn't like that.
Speaker 4: This wasn't like that the last ten to fifteen years.
Speaker 4: It just happened in the last ten to fifteen years.
Speaker 6: Talk to us COVID, John Covid. It all started with
Speaker 6: COVID because COVID taught the world that America, especially the
Speaker 6: federal government where I'm serving, would throw money at problems
Speaker 6: and we would did not have the guts to get
Speaker 6: the money back or to stop it from going out
Speaker 6: when criminal elements were involved. We wanted to be nice
Speaker 6: people in Minnesota where I've been, I feel like Johnny
Speaker 6: Cash by the way I've been everywhere man Minnesota. The
Speaker 6: worst thing, the worst thing you can say to someone
Speaker 6: in Minnesota ready, racist, can't use that Maine, why do
Speaker 6: they have this problem? Made again the essentral Africans. They
Speaker 6: don't actually look like they are understanding even the culture there,
Speaker 6: but they were accepted because again, you could not use
Speaker 6: the word racist. This has nothing to do with your
Speaker 6: skins in color, or your ethnic background or your gender.
Speaker 6: If you are stealing from poor people, you are not
Speaker 6: on our team and we need to stop it. And
Speaker 6: the only way to do that is to be difficult,
Speaker 6: like I being right now and why could the President
Speaker 6: do passionately about this? And the Vice President was appointed
Speaker 6: to be the head of the Task Force for the
Speaker 6: White House against Fraud because we knew we needed an
Speaker 6: all of government of efforts. So today in Pennsylvania doing
Speaker 6: this press event right right opposite from the federal prison
Speaker 6: was Colin MacDonald, who is the US Attorney in charge
Speaker 6: of these issues. We had the US Attorney for eastern
Speaker 6: part of Pennsylvania there as well. Day we had Day Sunday,
Speaker 6: who was the Attorney General in Pennsylvania. We had law enforcement
Speaker 6: at many different levels participating to ensure that justice is
Speaker 6: being done. And we need to send this message loudly
Speaker 6: to the criminals that if you try to steal money
Speaker 6: from the federal government or at this point even state
Speaker 6: governments because we have to reimburse the states for Medicaid,
Speaker 6: we will come out after you, which means do not
Speaker 6: walk away from my voice, run because we are coming.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you the problem we have in New
Speaker 4: York State and the problem you have in Philadelphia. You
Speaker 4: have a DA's that don't want to arrest anybody, and
Speaker 4: the job has to be done by the US attorneys
Speaker 4: to maintain laws.
Speaker 6: It's an excellent point. And then we have to ask ourselves,
Speaker 6: why is it we have so much corruption in our
Speaker 6: governments that they don't want to enforce the law. And
Speaker 6: you just said it beautifully because it's oftentimes politically motivated.
Speaker 6: Why do we have so many people doing these personal
Speaker 6: care service jobs? John, it's a jobs program. We are
Speaker 6: literally employing otherwise unemployed people on the federal goal because
Speaker 6: when you pay them medicaid salaries, the states get the
Speaker 6: money back from the federal government, most of it. And
Speaker 6: so for that reason, we're basically giving a jobs program
Speaker 6: to people to medicate people, by the way, whose other
Speaker 6: job happens to be drug dealer or some other oftentimes
Speaker 6: illicit endeavor. And then here's the best part. We're learning
Speaker 6: more and more in California and New York. I don't
Speaker 6: know about it yet in Philadelphia and Pennsylvania, but these
Speaker 6: folks are getting unionized. When they get unionized, they have
Speaker 6: to pay union dues even if they don't want to.
Speaker 6: We're pursuing that as well. And I just had a
Speaker 6: harsh letter of the states saying you may not do this.
Speaker 6: You may not take federal dollars and put union dues
Speaker 6: with those dollars to work, because what does the union
Speaker 6: do with the union dues? They stay fund candidates who
Speaker 6: support their views. That's political patronage. That's wrong.
Speaker 2: Wow. Absolutely well, doctor Oz. We love having you. It's
Speaker 2: so always mind blowing the amount of fraud that you
Speaker 2: guys are uncovering.
Speaker 4: And I am so glad that the President Trump puts
Speaker 4: you in that position and put so many other good
Speaker 4: people in positions where we're going to bring America back
Speaker 4: to being honestly, you know, honesty and integrity.
Speaker 6: Well, God bless you for giving me a place to
Speaker 6: talk about it a little bit. Lots more coming, making
Speaker 6: more trips back to New York. By the way, Nick
Speaker 6: Shirley and I wire of theirs, you know in Queen's
Speaker 6: with the social adult daycare centers where New York leads
Speaker 6: the league. But I'll tell you Pennsylvania, where I'm from,
Speaker 6: we are number one in the country in getting charged
Speaker 6: for dead people. Believe it or not. Wow, number one
Speaker 6: in the country for paying money for dead people to
Speaker 6: get care. It's shocking that if it happens once much.
Speaker 4: You know who I hold responsible to the governors of
Speaker 4: the states. The governors of the states have have the
Speaker 4: you know, the ability to go after local DA's to
Speaker 4: make sure they do the.
Speaker 3: Understated attorneys gener'll have to do their tribes too. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean it's horrible.
Speaker 4: Well, Dr Os, thank you so much for coming on
Speaker 4: and thank you for everything you do and to help
Speaker 4: all America. And God bless you, and we'll catch up
Speaker 4: again soon.
Speaker 8: God bless you. My friends.
Speaker 2: Take that you, thank you, thank you, doctor Oz and
Speaker 2: you guys, as we were saying, tonight is a big
Speaker 2: test of the Democratic Party because well a very extreme
Speaker 2: democratic socialist win and maybe more than one race. Well,
Speaker 2: talking about what's happening in the Democratic Party is former
Speaker 2: Democratic strategist still current political activists obviously.
Speaker 4: Very foch one tough gal.
Speaker 2: She's great, isn't she. I love her, We love her,
Speaker 2: Melissa du Rosa, Melissa, what do you think is going
Speaker 2: to happen?
Speaker 9: Well, great to be with you guys. You know, look,
Speaker 9: if the polls are right, and we've all experienced a
Speaker 9: you know, different polling that we know is completely wrong.
Speaker 9: But if the polls are right, it looks like Elsa
Speaker 9: Ed is going to walk away with this thing to
Speaker 9: the tune of somewhere, you know, between eight ten fifteen points,
Speaker 9: and this will be a if that's what happens. I
Speaker 9: think that the person who will be celebrating tonight is
Speaker 9: Mike Rogers and the Republican Party in the state of Michigan,
Speaker 9: because it puts him in a much much better position
Speaker 9: to take that seat and flip it from.
Speaker 7: Blue to red.
Speaker 2: You know what's amazing. And we were talking earlier in
Speaker 2: the show here Melissa that both el Sied and Haley Stevens,
Speaker 2: who claims she's a quote mid have said that they're
Speaker 2: going to endorse the other. So they are completely cathing.
Speaker 2: And this comes at the same time that there's are
Speaker 2: reports that Kamala Harris, first of all, who is definitely
Speaker 2: moving left. You can hear her rhetoric. She's talking about
Speaker 2: packing the Supreme Court, statehood, She's talking about a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of stuff, and so if you look at all
Speaker 2: of those things. She's also reaching out to Mundani. There's
Speaker 2: been reports that they've had so she's trying to get
Speaker 2: this DSA stamp on her the blessing of the DSA.
Speaker 2: What does that say? I mean they seem like to
Speaker 2: be surrendering, folding like cheap suits.
Speaker 9: No, you know, look It's the famous old saying, tell
Speaker 9: me where my people are going. I must know so
Speaker 9: I can lead them. And that is Kamala Harrison and nutshell.
Speaker 9: She is not a person of conviction. She's got no core.
Speaker 9: All she cares about is power and being in office
Speaker 9: for the sake of being in office. And so we
Speaker 9: saw during the twenty twenty four campaign, when she had
Speaker 9: two billion dollars behind her, that she basically lit on fire.
Speaker 9: We saw as she had every celebrity, all the mainstream media,
Speaker 9: every Democrat fell in line, and she lost every single
Speaker 9: swing state. And at the end of the day, people
Speaker 9: are very good at sniffing out people who are not
Speaker 9: authentic and people who are just saying whatever it takes
Speaker 9: to get elected. And in that race, she flip flopped
Speaker 9: on fracking, she flipedopped on Medicare for All, she flip
Speaker 9: flopped on the border, She full flopped on gun control.
Speaker 9: She had been a staunch advocate for gun control. Suddenly
Speaker 9: everywhere she's going she's telling people she owns a gun.
Speaker 9: And so you know, look, people, people can smell a phony,
Speaker 9: and that's what happened, and you're seeing it again. You're
Speaker 9: seeing a woman who at one point was in law enforcement.
Speaker 9: She worked in the DA's office. She was the Attorney
Speaker 9: General of California. She used to tap the fact that
Speaker 9: she was tough on crime. And you're seeing her cozying
Speaker 9: up to the DSA. She is she is taking meetings
Speaker 9: with the pro Palestinian groups, the anti Israel groups, who
Speaker 9: I would argue are even you know, borderline pro Hamas groups,
Speaker 9: And she is already you know, taking all of the
Speaker 9: position of these wackoed DSA people who are trying to
Speaker 9: drag the party off a cliff to the left. And
Speaker 9: so she's tilting it wind mills once again. But more dangerously,
Speaker 9: it's it's the direction you're seeing a lot of them
Speaker 9: go in. They believe that that's where the grassroots energy is.
Speaker 9: They believe that in a presidential you're going to need
Speaker 9: to appease the activist, looney wing of the party, and
Speaker 9: then in doing so, they're going to make it impossible
Speaker 9: to win the general election, and they are going to
Speaker 9: redefine the Democratic Party as we all have known it
Speaker 9: for our entire lives. So it's a very very dangerous
Speaker 9: situation we find ourselves in right now.
Speaker 2: It is. And also you can't discount it. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, I love the idea that you're saying that
Speaker 2: Mike Rodgers will win in November. And he's a he's
Speaker 2: a terrific candidate. I mean, you look at his backgrounds.
Speaker 2: But these people that's you know, a lot of people
Speaker 2: said Mondani's never going to win, and here we are.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 9: I mean, look, I don't know that it's a shoe
Speaker 9: in for Mike Rodgers, but it's certainly he's He will
Speaker 9: be in a much better position than if he were
Speaker 9: running against Haley Stevens, who fought to save the auto industry,
Speaker 9: who is a moderate, real Michigan you know, resident all
Speaker 9: of her life and who has taken moderate positions her
Speaker 9: whole life. And you're going to put him up against
Speaker 9: Mike Rodgers, up against some guy who's hanging out with
Speaker 9: Hassan Piker. And I do not believe that that translates
Speaker 9: statewide in a purple state like Michigan, which voted for
Speaker 9: Trump twice in the last three times that he ran.
Speaker 9: It just it doesn't smell. It doesn't pass the smell test.
Speaker 2: And now I hope you're right. I hope you're right.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so I think it works. That stuff may work
Speaker 9: in small blue city council districts and congressional districts, and
Speaker 9: even blue cities like New York and Chicago. But I
Speaker 9: don't think that you know that dog hunts been in
Speaker 9: a purple state which built on the middle class and
Speaker 9: union workers.
Speaker 5: Craig Eaton, You know, Melissa, I agree with you, but
Speaker 5: I do fear the fact that the country is trending
Speaker 5: towards socialism. I mean, look at around the country, the
Speaker 5: different mayors that have and we can't take this for
Speaker 5: granted here. I mean, this is a scary proposition.
Speaker 9: No no one can take it for granted. And look,
Speaker 9: obviously the Republicans are going to ring the alarm bell
Speaker 9: on this, but sane Democrats who care about the future
Speaker 9: of this party have to speak up too, because a
Speaker 9: lot of this is being driven by eighteen to thirty
Speaker 9: nine year olds. They see it on TikTok, they see
Speaker 9: it on social media. No one reads beyond the headline.
Speaker 9: No one has any historical perspective or institutional knowledge. I mean,
Speaker 9: these ideas have been tried and failed everywhere around the world,
Speaker 9: and all that it would end up doing is setting
Speaker 9: us backwards and taking us That's not even to say
Speaker 9: that's just some the economics. We're not even talking about
Speaker 9: the dangerous public safety positions that this group has taken
Speaker 9: and these people are taken. And then layer into that
Speaker 9: the anti Semitism, which is the core of what holds
Speaker 9: the DSA together. Don't kid yourself. It's not affordability, it's
Speaker 9: anti semitism, and it's a hate for Israel. So, I mean,
Speaker 9: everybody has to come together. Really, we need to see
Speaker 9: the center left and the center right pull the country
Speaker 9: through this, or else we will go off a cliff.
Speaker 4: Melissa, do you see any leadership and in the Democratic
Speaker 4: Party that has the ability to stand up and has
Speaker 4: the courage to stand up.
Speaker 9: You know, we've seen a couple of people stick their
Speaker 9: head up. You know, We've seen Josh Gothheimer stand up.
Speaker 9: We've seen Shapiro stand up. Obviously, see my former boss
Speaker 9: Andrew Cuomo stand up.
Speaker 7: There are some.
Speaker 9: People who have stood up to this, but unfortunately it's
Speaker 9: the minority voices.
Speaker 7: Right now.
Speaker 9: We're seeing you know, Gavin Newsome running to the left,
Speaker 9: Kamala Harris running to the left. Even Rob Emmanuel, who
Speaker 9: I have a lot of respect for, flew to Israel
Speaker 9: to criticize Israel because he thinks he needs to do
Speaker 9: that in order to be a viable candidate. So it's yeah,
Speaker 9: it's it's And Rob em Manuel was in you know,
Speaker 9: was in the IDF. I don't know how many people
Speaker 9: know that, but he served in the IDF fir a
Speaker 9: stant So to see even him do that shows you
Speaker 9: where the politicians on the left they have to go
Speaker 9: in order to be viable. And we've got to start
Speaker 9: try to get some people together who can be just
Speaker 9: as loud as the crazies online to say this isn't
Speaker 9: actually where you need to go. We'll support you if
Speaker 9: you're seene and moderate and you actually work for working
Speaker 9: people and don't just put forth crazy ideas that sound
Speaker 9: good and are completely impossible and others that quite frankly,
Speaker 9: are dangerous.
Speaker 4: Lissa, keep fighting for common sense and we'll catch up
Speaker 4: with you again real soon.
Speaker 9: Sounds good. Guys, talk soon, And you.
Speaker 2: Guys, why don't we take a quick break, and then
Speaker 2: we have Stephen Fullop and also Professor Dershowitz right after.
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Speaker 2: We are back here on Kats and Cosby. Well, this
Speaker 2: is pretty stunning that Mayor Mundani's office. Well, it looks
Speaker 2: like they're launching a new war on New York City
Speaker 2: business leaders. They kicked off everybody that is on this
Speaker 2: mayoral committee. It is the Mayor's Fund to Advance New
Speaker 2: York City and it was big business leaders, fifty of them,
Speaker 2: all of them suddenly removed.
Speaker 3: And who raised an enormous amount of money for rgod
Speaker 3: causes to help this city.
Speaker 2: And then replaced it with some questionable folks.
Speaker 3: Well, how about a long shoreman and a high school teacher.
Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like they know much about.
Speaker 4: That raise a lot of money.
Speaker 2: Yeah wow. So what does all this mean? Well, let's
Speaker 2: go to Steve in full Up. He is the President's
Speaker 2: CEO of the Partnership for New York City. And Steve,
Speaker 2: what do you make of this move?
Speaker 10: I mean, I think it's very short sighted, it's silly,
Speaker 10: it's a mistake, and it just reinforces a narrative that
Speaker 10: you know, he's trying to placate a political base and
Speaker 10: doesn't want to work with the business community. I think
Speaker 10: what John said is spot on. This group has raised
Speaker 10: millions of dollars in the city's most vulnerable of time.
Speaker 10: So COVID the post nine to eleven, and these are
Speaker 10: generous people and the mayor saying I don't want your money.
Speaker 10: It's kind of silly, but that's where we are.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you who are these people? Because the
Speaker 4: audience doesn't know who these people are and who appointed
Speaker 4: them originally and tell us about it.
Speaker 10: So look, it's it's some of the most prominent names
Speaker 10: in New York City, representing some of the most prominent
Speaker 10: corporations from you know, A City Bank to Blackstone to
Speaker 10: Tishman's Fire uh to.
Speaker 4: Root in that I mean the name you have on
Speaker 4: the New York City.
Speaker 10: Partnership, Well, these are it's names on the City Partnership.
Speaker 10: But it's bigger than that. I mean, these are people
Speaker 10: that for decades upon decades have been institutions in New
Speaker 10: York City and some of the most philanthropic people that
Speaker 10: you could possibly imagine.
Speaker 4: And who crushed the button in the city was it
Speaker 4: the mayor himself?
Speaker 10: Well, look, I mean these people got letters in the
Speaker 10: mail saying thank you for your service, So you know,
Speaker 10: it's just the strange way to kind of conduct business.
Speaker 10: I mean, I think that if you were looking to
Speaker 10: really raise money, you would still allow these people to
Speaker 10: participate because it's the mayor's discretion where these funds go.
Speaker 10: So the more dollars in that account, the better off
Speaker 10: to achieve his objectives. And these are people that just
Speaker 10: want to work with the mayor, regardless of whether it
Speaker 10: was Deblasio or Adams or Momdani. They're New Yorkers ultimately,
Speaker 10: So I mean, looky, I don't think it makes a
Speaker 10: lot of sense. John, I think most people who look
Speaker 10: at it rationally would say that it doesn't make a
Speaker 10: lot of sense. But here we are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the replacement Steve again is just shocking to
Speaker 2: me because, as Joge Weinberg was saying, it's along shoreman,
Speaker 2: who's the other one?
Speaker 4: High school teacher?
Speaker 3: I mean to have against long or high school teachers,
Speaker 3: But how do they contribute and raise that kind of
Speaker 3: money and understand business right the way these.
Speaker 4: Other people do. It's a whole different creative people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you make Yeah?
Speaker 10: I think I think, Look, I don't know the individuals
Speaker 10: that replaced them personally, but what I'll tell you is
Speaker 10: that you know, most of the time when people are
Speaker 10: involved in these boards and organizations, they tend to be
Speaker 10: naturally more generous because they're involved. And these are the
Speaker 10: people that control their own wallets, so it's not necessarily
Speaker 10: soliciting other people. These are huge influencers with huge networks,
Speaker 10: and the money ultimately went to the place that the
Speaker 10: mayor wanted it to go to. So like replacing those
Speaker 10: people and creating an extra step of fundraising is just counterintuitive.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Craig, nothing from Craig.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, nothing because it's so preposterous you can't
Speaker 3: even talk about intelligently exactly.
Speaker 4: Is anybody talking to the mayor of restoring some of
Speaker 4: these people or common sense?
Speaker 10: I think that you know, the challenge with the mayor
Speaker 10: is that he's a super nice guy in person, is
Speaker 10: that you know, people want to get by on the
Speaker 10: performative stuff, and and the challenge is that, you know,
Speaker 10: there's a lot of times and places where you know,
Speaker 10: the business community feels that he's you know, publicly shaming them,
Speaker 10: publicizing names pr in front of them, and it's really
Speaker 10: about a campaign. This is a good example in the
Speaker 10: sense that you know, if you don't want somebody to
Speaker 10: participate in a board, you don't necessarily need to make
Speaker 10: a public narrative about it. You can have a conversation
Speaker 10: about it. And the truth of the matter is, there's
Speaker 10: no law that says the board has to be seven people,
Speaker 10: nine people, or fifty nine people. You could use your
Speaker 10: discretion and take everybody's money, which would seem like what's
Speaker 10: in the best interest of New York.
Speaker 4: Well, Steve Phillip, CEO of the New York City Partnership,
Speaker 4: the most powerful in New York City, and you and
Speaker 4: you have the three hundred most important people on your board.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for coming on and keep us,
Speaker 4: keep us informed, and keep u on. New York Is
Speaker 4: informed in the doubless New York and go bless Mark.
Speaker 2: Thank you Steve, very much.
Speaker 10: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: Here are some of the headlines. Guys for the big
Speaker 2: Goya headlines, and there are a number of ones today.
Speaker 2: First of all, a person has been arrested for arson
Speaker 2: as the wildfires in Spokane, Washington remain at zero percent containment.
Speaker 2: The fires also have forcunately sixty five thousand people from
Speaker 2: their homes and destroyed some seven hundred buildings. And this
Speaker 2: is interesting. Luigi Mangioni is asking a New York court
Speaker 2: to allow broader access to his upcoming state murder trial
Speaker 2: over the killing of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson. His attorneys,
Speaker 2: Luigia Mangionies have filed emotion seeking to live stream the proceedings,
Speaker 2: arguing that the court should not limit access by selecting
Speaker 2: only a small group of reporters or denying an overflow
Speaker 2: court room feed. New York State typically does not, obviously,
Speaker 2: as a state, televise these kind of cases. We'll keep
Speaker 2: you posted. Obviously, a horrible case that happened there and everybody,
Speaker 2: we're going to take a break, and General Jackeen is
Speaker 2: coming up to give us the very latest on what's
Speaker 2: going on with Iran. It's up and down. We'll find
Speaker 2: out the very latest.
Speaker 1: Your commuting home with Kats and Cosby. Now here's John
Speaker 1: Katsimatidis and Rated Gosby on seventy seven WADC.
Speaker 4: Well we are back and well, I guess everything revolves
Speaker 4: a Brown, what's going on in Iran? And who better
Speaker 4: to have than General Jack Keane to give us a
Speaker 4: pulse of the situation. Well, General, what do you think?
Speaker 8: Well, a couple of things.
Speaker 11: Number one, the President actually has concluded that the Iranians
Speaker 11: are the most serious they've ever been since we went
Speaker 11: to the ceasefire on April the seventh, So he does
Speaker 11: believe there is a potential stop.
Speaker 4: General, the stock market went up almost a thousand points today.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I know, I saw that nine hundred and seven points.
Speaker 11: So uh, he believes there is a potential for a
Speaker 11: deal here.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 11: And I think if if it doesn't materialize, he'll go
Speaker 11: back to major combat operations, because he just days ago,
Speaker 11: you know, he said, these guys don't want to make
Speaker 11: a deal. Yeah, they're just playing us. So something happened
Speaker 11: and they're the appeal to him at the convince them
Speaker 11: that maybe this time they're serious. We'll know in a
Speaker 11: few days what the Iranian strategy, John and Rita has been.
Speaker 11: When when we went to the ceasefire on April of seventh,
Speaker 11: remember the reason for that is they shut down the
Speaker 11: straits of the Moves and on March the second, and
Speaker 11: oil prices and gas prices spiked as a result of it,
Speaker 11: and the mid terms were coming, and economic concerns and
Speaker 11: political concerns and alleviating those concerns became the objective, not
Speaker 11: the military objectives any longer, not that they still weren't important.
Speaker 8: They were, but these.
Speaker 11: Took position I in terms of trying to resolve it,
Speaker 11: and we thought that could get resolved. But we didn't
Speaker 11: get a deal with these guys until June the seventeenth,
Speaker 11: when the president to both presidents signed it. And what
Speaker 11: was the deal about. It was about the straits of
Speaker 11: the moves. It was the only deal in the MoU
Speaker 11: the memory of understanding, all the rest of it was
Speaker 11: up the negotiations, and then within days they violated the deal.
Speaker 11: Here's where I think the Iranians are really coming from.
Speaker 11: They believe that now I'm thinking from where they are,
Speaker 11: what are what we think of them? From where they're
Speaker 11: coming at this, And they think they've had the upper
Speaker 11: hand since they forced us to stop the war on
Speaker 11: April seventh. Their objective after that was not to make
Speaker 11: a deal, but to stall and drag out negotiations. So
Speaker 11: the closer it got to the midterms, and the more
Speaker 11: the oil prices and gas prices increased, the better opportunity
Speaker 11: for them and likelihood of more concessions if there was
Speaker 11: a deal. I think they still have that mindset, and
Speaker 11: what I'm hearing about the negotiations, the deal that's on
Speaker 11: the table the president will never accept in any event.
Speaker 11: I think what the Runians would like to do is
Speaker 11: extend the negotiations John and Rita here as supposed to
Speaker 11: try to finalize it in a couple of days. It
Speaker 11: remains to be seen where we are, but I think
Speaker 11: that's a fairly accurate description of where the Iranians are,
Speaker 11: and certainly where the president is. He's fed up, and
Speaker 11: if he doesn't get a deal here pretty soon, then
Speaker 11: he'll go back to major combat operations. That's kind of
Speaker 11: how I see it.
Speaker 4: I think I have I agree with everything you said
Speaker 4: that they're going to try to jerk around the whole
Speaker 4: system to get it closer to September and make and
Speaker 4: make them more desperate because of the election.
Speaker 11: Yeah, and another thing, I haven't discussed this much, but
Speaker 11: myself and the think tank Institute for Studying War come
Speaker 11: to the same conclusion that as we get closer as
Speaker 11: opposed to the Irani. Let's assume we don't get a
Speaker 11: deal and we're still in negotiations and we start to
Speaker 11: have some problems, the Iranians will likely get more aggressive,
Speaker 11: not less aggressive, because why because they think the closer
Speaker 11: you get to the November elections, the less likelihood the
Speaker 11: president would ever respond and go back to major combat operations,
Speaker 11: knowing that tank oil and gas prices would spike again
Speaker 11: and be spiked during the election, and they're assuming that
Speaker 11: President Trump would want no part of it. So that's
Speaker 11: also a little glimpse of where the Iranians are. And
Speaker 11: we have said from the beginning they don't want to
Speaker 11: give up the straits of a moves. It is a
Speaker 11: strategic asset. Now it exceeded all of their expectations. They
Speaker 11: got to stop war out of it, and number two,
Speaker 11: it affected the world economy beyond what they thought it
Speaker 11: would and it gives them leverage over the other countries
Speaker 11: in the region. So the likelihood they would truly give
Speaker 11: it up and meet all of President Trump's objectives pretty slim.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 2: Well, General Jack Keane keep us posted it sounds like
Speaker 2: the next few days will be very telling, at least
Speaker 2: in the short term. What happens if they get something
Speaker 2: on paper or not, and if they follow through with it,
Speaker 2: we'll see General Jackine, we love you, thank you.
Speaker 11: Very much, great talking about you.
Speaker 4: Thank you much too.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. And again, you guys are breaking
Speaker 2: news because Pole's closing soon.
Speaker 4: It's freaking news.
Speaker 2: WABC and Poles are going to be closing in just
Speaker 2: a few hours in Michigan and also Missouri and Michigan.
Speaker 2: All eyes on Michigan and joining us now is Tutor Dixon.
Speaker 2: She was the Republican Party's nominee for governor of Michigan
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two. She was the party's first female
Speaker 2: nominee for governor and Tutor. It's great to have you
Speaker 2: here on Katz and Cosby. I haven't talked to you
Speaker 2: it to a while. It's wonderful. Where is What do
Speaker 2: you think's going to happen tonight? And how big of
Speaker 2: a sort of I guess a barometer is it the
Speaker 2: rest of the country.
Speaker 9: I mean, all science point to Abdul l Sayad winning
Speaker 9: the Democratic primary on the Senate side, and I think
Speaker 9: that this is a huge change for the Democratic Party
Speaker 9: across the country. You come into a swing state in
Speaker 9: the middle of the country like Michigan, and you nominate
Speaker 9: someone who has openly set has openly called for open borders,
Speaker 9: for abolishing ice, and proudly says he wants ice abolished,
Speaker 9: has proudly said that he wants the government to take
Speaker 9: over private businesses, that he doesn't think that the big
Speaker 9: tech businesses should be owned by individuals anymore, or have
Speaker 9: private ownership or even public ownership. It should be government,
Speaker 9: government ownership. I mean this, we're taught we're skipping right
Speaker 9: past socialism into communism here. He's called for defunding the military,
Speaker 9: he's called for defunding the police. These are the most
Speaker 9: radical stances we have seen come out of the Democrat Party,
Speaker 9: and not just one. We're talking about every possible ratico
Speaker 9: stance you could take. And he is right now leading,
Speaker 9: and we believe that he will win tonight, and that
Speaker 9: to me says a lot about where the Democrat Party
Speaker 9: is going in general.
Speaker 5: Craig Eon, you know, it's funny because all those things
Speaker 5: you just stated, it just sounds like what we're facing
Speaker 5: here in New York exactly the same issues. And it's
Speaker 5: not the same Democratic Party anymore. There is no Democratic
Speaker 5: partymore it's all socialism, and I don't know what's going
Speaker 5: to happen, but we need we need to take this
Speaker 5: seat back.
Speaker 9: And this is the thing that exactly I agree with you,
Speaker 9: exactly what is going to happen and what do we
Speaker 9: do to stop it? And how do we get out
Speaker 9: of our own way and start to really message to
Speaker 9: people and talk to people. I've watched what's happened in
Speaker 9: Michigan and I'm stunned by it. You'll hear them say
Speaker 9: we want money out of politics, but they have groups
Speaker 9: that are well funded that appear to be organic, but
Speaker 9: they're not. I promise you they're well funded. We just
Speaker 9: had somebody tweet yesterday, oh, a huge group of canvassers
Speaker 9: was from New York City into Detroit. Why because there's
Speaker 9: groups with big money behind these folks and they come
Speaker 9: in and they have just infiltrated the state. I've watched
Speaker 9: them put up tables in small towns and hand out
Speaker 9: signs and talk about getting free stuff, and they certainly
Speaker 9: don't tell you the scary side of that. But there
Speaker 9: is a massive amount of money behind this. When people
Speaker 9: say the DNC doesn't have money and we shouldn't be worried.
Speaker 9: I promise you it's other places. The money is there,
Speaker 9: it's just going into other organizations and they're educating people
Speaker 9: and Republicans are naive to that.
Speaker 4: Right now, they're sending people to every state as needed,
Speaker 4: and and a lot of foreign money, a lot of
Speaker 4: domestic money going to a jack campaign. And well, I
Speaker 4: hope you call in tonight that Rita's on again at
Speaker 4: ten o'clock tonight. I hope you call into RITA and you.
Speaker 2: Guys, yeah up, we'll connect afterwards. Dude it it'd be
Speaker 2: great to have you on later with all as the
Speaker 2: results come in. Thank you to so much. Thank you,
Speaker 2: and you guys, I understand calling in. Right now. We
Speaker 2: have Professor Alan Dershowitz.
Speaker 4: Well every Tuesday, Alan Deshowitz, professor well number one at
Speaker 4: Harvard for sixty years. Well, Professor Deshowitz, me and Richard
Speaker 4: Weinberg are here with you right now. Judge Weinberg, give
Speaker 4: us the things that bother you.
Speaker 8: Well.
Speaker 3: Actually, something that made me feel very good today is
Speaker 3: a US District Court judge, based on the supremacy Clause,
Speaker 3: said that the State of New York could not ban
Speaker 3: mask wearing by federal law enforcement agencies, particularly ICE, and
Speaker 3: they could not be required to wear identification badges. And
Speaker 3: they did this on the supremacy clause because it's up
Speaker 3: to the federal government to regulate federal law enforcement, not
Speaker 3: states and localities. So, Alan, what do you think about
Speaker 3: that decision.
Speaker 12: Well, not only is it the right decision, but it's
Speaker 12: part of a big effort led by my full mccauleague,
Speaker 12: Glarry Tribe and others who have been saying the states
Speaker 12: ought to be taking far more action against the Trump
Speaker 12: administration and they ought to be invoking their powers, and
Speaker 12: it's really an attack on the supremacy clause. You know,
Speaker 12: I'm a scholar of the way the Constitution got to
Speaker 12: be written. I have a recent book on it called
Speaker 12: Founding Fathers and One Jewish Mother about the framing of
Speaker 12: our Constitution and the framing of Israel's Declaration of Independence.
Speaker 12: And the one thing you learn from that is that
Speaker 12: clearly the group that wanted the federal government to beat
Speaker 12: superior one helk and they prevailed. And the supremacy clause
Speaker 12: of the Constitution basically says to the states, no, no, no,
Speaker 12: you can't do anything to interfere with the federal government.
Speaker 12: If the federal government is operating within its proper.
Speaker 13: Sphere of influenza.
Speaker 12: And of course immigration is the paradigmatic federal power. You
Speaker 12: can't have separate immigration rules for New York.
Speaker 8: And New Jersey.
Speaker 12: You have to have one rule for immigration to the
Speaker 12: United States and one method of enforcing it. And so
Speaker 12: any effort by states to try to interfere with the
Speaker 12: federal government's right to enforce their immigration policies would be
Speaker 12: found unconstitutional. And I'm delighted this court did that.
Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you this. You also have a
Speaker 3: law passed by the state legislatures signed by the governor
Speaker 3: which bans cooperation agreements between the local authorities and federal authorities.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't the same reasoning appliance to violation supremacy clause?
Speaker 13: Absolutely, And you can't prevent local law.
Speaker 12: Enforcement agencies from cooperating with federal law enforcement. Federal law enforcement,
Speaker 12: to use a bad pun, Trump's state law enforcement and
Speaker 12: state law enforcement clearly has to follow a federal law. Look,
Speaker 12: you know there was a big debate over the Posse
Speaker 12: Commatatus Act a long time ago, and you know you
Speaker 12: can't make you can't force state officials to do things
Speaker 12: that violate state law. But you can't also, on the
Speaker 12: other hand, include state officials from cooperating with the federal government.
Speaker 12: That clearly violates the supremacy clause. And I think the
Speaker 12: Supreme Court would rule on that nine to nothing.
Speaker 3: And under this law that was passed, Professor Deschwitz, you're
Speaker 3: going to go after the local county executives and the
Speaker 3: local sheriffs for non compliance. How do you think that's
Speaker 3: going to turn out?
Speaker 13: Well, I'm happy to represent any pro.
Speaker 12: Bono if that happens to to give whatever advice I
Speaker 12: can give as a constitutional lawyer on their side.
Speaker 13: You know, you can do it. You can do anything.
Speaker 12: But it's lawless to imagine the implications of that for
Speaker 12: the South. Back in the nineteen fifties when I came
Speaker 12: of age, if there were laws in states like Mississippi
Speaker 12: and Alabama saying that the state officials can't cooperate with
Speaker 12: desegregation orders of the federal courts, we still have segregation.
Speaker 12: And you know, all the liberals were on the federal
Speaker 12: side of that one. And now suddenly with the Republicans
Speaker 12: in power, the liberals have changed and they're now all
Speaker 12: in favor of states rights. And if you know, the
Speaker 12: Democrats get back in power, they'll shift on a dime
Speaker 12: because they're utterly unprincipled. All they care about is which
Speaker 12: side wins laws rights. Yeah, it's all about ideology and
Speaker 12: it's all about partisanship. It's not about the law. And
Speaker 12: you know that really marks the end of any democracy
Speaker 12: when states can absolutely faunt what the federal Constitution or
Speaker 12: the federal statutes require of them. So we're on the
Speaker 12: right side of this very very important fight. And many
Speaker 12: of my old liberal friends, who no longer talked to
Speaker 12: me since I.
Speaker 13: Left the Democratic Party on the wrong side of this.
Speaker 12: They are on the segregationists deep South side of this.
Speaker 12: They could be citing Calhoun saying that states have a
Speaker 12: right to nullify and keep their slaves. But that issue
Speaker 12: was solved by the Civil War, that issue was solved
Speaker 12: by the thirteen fourteen fifteen amendments. That issue was solved
Speaker 12: even before that by the supremacy cause of the Constitution.
Speaker 12: And these so called academics are urging people to essentially
Speaker 12: violate the Constitution.
Speaker 13: And that's very dangerous for rememer.
Speaker 4: Professor John katsutit's I've been letting you to judges. The
Speaker 4: judge and the professor go at it. One last question,
Speaker 4: the effect is the Democratic Party, the Democratic Socialist Party
Speaker 4: held a convention in Chicago. I heard that the turnout
Speaker 4: was not that big, was a couple of one hundred people.
Speaker 4: How can a couple hundred people reign terror upon the
Speaker 4: rest of the Democratic Party and how are we going
Speaker 4: to solve that?
Speaker 13: Well, it's a really it's a really big problem, and
Speaker 13: we're going to see its manifestation perhaps.
Speaker 12: In Michigan tonight. When this radical anti American, anti Jewish,
Speaker 12: anti everything a candidate beats a very decent centrist Republican
Speaker 12: for the nomination, then all of our efforts have to
Speaker 12: be put on making sure that he's defeated in the
Speaker 12: in the general election.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for coming on today, and we'll
Speaker 4: catch up again.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 7: Thanks.
Speaker 2: Wow, great conversation, very interesting and important topic. In John
Speaker 2: we got a doctor Mark Siegel.
Speaker 4: Now, I'm glad he's on with us. Doctor Siegel, what subject?
Speaker 4: I mean, there's so many problems in the world, especially
Speaker 4: in medicine. Where where do we start?
Speaker 8: Well, I heard that you were appointed of an honorary professor. Now,
Speaker 8: and I say I believe that that's true, that that
Speaker 8: that your knowledge base is so substant Angel that we
Speaker 8: can come to you pretty much for anything.
Speaker 4: Well, I got to take those brain vitamins that I
Speaker 4: am on, and uh, doctor Peter put me on him,
Speaker 4: and I.
Speaker 2: See, I remember, see he remembers he remembered our name,
Speaker 2: Doctor Siegel.
Speaker 8: Who knew I also I showed doctor Peter at a
Speaker 8: synagogue the other day. It was unbelievable. I think the
Speaker 8: reason for that was just that Peter wanted a covering
Speaker 8: of his bald head. I think that's the only thing.
Speaker 4: I introduced him. And the Yama guy put on in
Speaker 4: respect kept falling off.
Speaker 8: Well that's he has. Yeah, you're supposed to have a
Speaker 8: clip on it, but he has nothing. A clip.
Speaker 2: Tracks the tricks the trick.
Speaker 4: So doctor, yeah, people not buying strawberries and not buying blueberries,
Speaker 4: tell us what the heck is going on?
Speaker 8: I wrote years ago in a in a book I
Speaker 8: had that was the bestseller before this latest miracles book.
Speaker 8: That book, I wrote that fear was the greatest virus around,
Speaker 8: and fear was more contagious than any other virus. And
Speaker 8: people actually lose track of that because we you know,
Speaker 8: that was my message, and then we suddenly had a
Speaker 8: monstrous pandemic, so it looked like, well, you know, downplaying things.
Speaker 8: But reality is that that this is thousands of cases
Speaker 8: and now that we have two deaths related to cyclospora.
Speaker 2: But that's the stomach. That's the stomach.
Speaker 8: I'm talking about the stomach bug now. So the stomach
Speaker 8: bug has now led the two deaths in Michigan. Both
Speaker 8: were imm compromised, both got really dehydrated. And now everybody's like, WHOA,
Speaker 8: what if I eat lettuce? And the answer is that
Speaker 8: if you get ahead of lettuce from a local grower
Speaker 8: or you buy it at one of Professor Cassimetid's stores,
Speaker 8: you're not going to have a problem. So the main
Speaker 8: thing is that that this is all the cyclo sport
Speaker 8: is all linked to taco bell to tailor farms, to
Speaker 8: Mexico go to mixing things in bags of lettuce, but
Speaker 8: it's not really linked to the ground. It's also not
Speaker 8: going to last much longer Rita because as the weather cools,
Speaker 8: which it's definitely going to do over the next couple
Speaker 8: of weeks, the cyclosport doesn't persist and it doesn't get
Speaker 8: beyond your intestine, and it takes weeks and it is
Speaker 8: definitely going to be limited.
Speaker 4: How about the fertilizers on people are complaining that organic
Speaker 4: strawberries they were putting, they were putting fertilizers on it
Speaker 4: or whatever.
Speaker 2: Pesticide pesticides.
Speaker 8: Yeah, well see that's another thing that's that's a big scare.
Speaker 8: And John wants me to point out that, you know,
Speaker 8: the pesticide scare. If we don't have pesticides, then we
Speaker 8: end up looking like Africa in terms of the diseases
Speaker 8: we get. So we can't have it both ways. There's
Speaker 8: definitely a pandemic of insects on our planet. And if
Speaker 8: we want to have crops that are that we can
Speaker 8: actually eat, we're gonna eat pesticides. So we have to
Speaker 8: be careful. You know where we throw our stones. You
Speaker 8: know that we should limit exposure. We should limit exposure,
Speaker 8: but we shouldn't. We shouldn't not realize the benefits.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, the one thing that came up is
Speaker 4: like apples or pears, we should we should eat the
Speaker 4: inside of the apple, inside of the pear. I mean,
Speaker 4: banana is a perfect thing. I mean it has a
Speaker 4: lot of insulation. You think that's better.
Speaker 8: Well, I think the problem with bananas and I actually
Speaker 8: like them. Is that they're very high carbohydrates, so it's
Speaker 8: a trade off, and I don't think that. I think
Speaker 8: apples are probably the healthiest thing you can absolutely get.
Speaker 8: And yes, how about remembering to wash them. That's not
Speaker 8: a bad thing. And we should be washing our fruit
Speaker 8: and vegetables really carefully.
Speaker 2: I have a banana question, actually, go and I'm looking
Speaker 2: question John. I remember John used to say, have like
Speaker 2: a like a little slice in the breakfast, like with
Speaker 2: yogurt or something like that. It's good to have some
Speaker 2: in moderation.
Speaker 4: Is that right?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's fine. I think it's fine. I
Speaker 8: think food is unbelievably good for you. I think berries
Speaker 8: are really jam packed with fiber and antioxidants. I think
Speaker 8: if you're going to go to the cats of a
Speaker 8: Titi's breakfast, you have to have the yogurt bowl. I
Speaker 8: don't I don't think you can eating these huge, huge
Speaker 8: eggs at well, wait a minute, what.
Speaker 4: About the late today on Saturday? Because Governor Hochel is
Speaker 4: getting near at nine o'clock? What about do.
Speaker 8: You remember do you remember when Governor Hokeel came to
Speaker 8: the movie that Katsamatides was in. Yeah, Marty, And if
Speaker 8: we needed an indication that time has passed to sit
Speaker 8: in a movie fitter and say, well, I haven't been
Speaker 8: in one of these in years, and all I've ever
Speaker 8: done is watch movie on my iPhone like everybody else,
Speaker 8: like the Zombie Generation. That's gen Z is the zombie
Speaker 8: gen Z for zombie generation, So all I uses my
Speaker 8: iPhone And then I'm in an actual movie theater loaded
Speaker 8: with popcorn, sitting there with the Governor of New York State,
Speaker 8: and we're waiting for the movie that the Cats of
Speaker 8: the Teas was brilliant and by the way, and all
Speaker 8: of a sudden, the thing doesn't work, the sound doesn't work.
Speaker 8: We're sitting there for an hour. The Governor sat there patiently,
Speaker 8: and that is because John is such a great host.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was having a good time.
Speaker 4: She's a very nice lady, and you know, we give
Speaker 4: a respect.
Speaker 2: Yeah that was good, doctor Segal, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: We should get going.
Speaker 5: But this is I just hope you didn't have the
Speaker 5: butter with the popcorn, because I'm healing hearing really bad
Speaker 5: things about that these days.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but did you ever hear good things about
Speaker 2: Butter jokes, it's not real butter.
Speaker 7: Yeah, bad for that's bad for you.
Speaker 4: Well, in the movie studios, it might not be real butter,
Speaker 4: but real butter. Is we selling the super well yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm talking about the movie.
Speaker 2: All right, doctor Siga, we gotta go.
Speaker 4: We love you, I'll see you then.
Speaker 2: Get the yogurt bowl. Thanks so much, doctor, We love you,
Speaker 2: and you guys were gonna take a break and we're
Speaker 2: gonna talk to Randy Mastro about all these different issues
Speaker 2: with the second home tax. Everything is happening, rent freeze.
Speaker 2: There's a lot on the table here in New York.
Speaker 1: It's our common sense recap of the big stories. It's
Speaker 1: Cats and Cosby on seventy seven w WABC.
Speaker 2: And we are back here on Kats and Cosby and
Speaker 2: there is so much furer in New York and frustration
Speaker 2: over the second home tax, also lots of questions with
Speaker 2: the rent freeze. And joining us who better than former
Speaker 2: Deputy mayor and great attorney Randy Mastro. Randy your thoughts
Speaker 2: about First of all, we're all this is headed because
Speaker 2: I mean, are these things legal? Especially let's talk about
Speaker 2: the second home tax. They did extend it, but they
Speaker 2: send it out to everybody. People got docked, and a
Speaker 2: lot of them are saying these are not even legitimate.
Speaker 7: Well, it's absolutely insane that hundreds of thousands of New
Speaker 7: Yorkers got put on a list that the city's finance
Speaker 7: department published it's online today on its website. Their names,
Speaker 7: their addresses, their property values as quote related to the
Speaker 7: new surcharge, not related to the new church, just people
Speaker 7: who own homes. It's absolutely insane. But what happened from
Speaker 7: there was that seventeen thousand of the people on that
Speaker 7: list they got letters mailed notices that basically said, you
Speaker 7: may be subject to this surcharge unless you qualify for
Speaker 7: an exemption and prove to us that this surcharge doesn't
Speaker 7: apply to you. Now, that's not the way the law works.
Speaker 7: The state law that passed said the city has to
Speaker 7: make the initial determination and then give you a chance
Speaker 7: to appeal. The city didn't make any initial determination here.
Speaker 7: The city shifted the burden to homeowners and said, sorry,
Speaker 7: you better prove this surcharge, known as the pied tare
Speaker 7: a tax doesn't apply to you. You wonder how crazy
Speaker 7: this is. I got one of those notices. Oh wow,
Speaker 7: Mayor of New York City until December thirty one. But
Speaker 7: I got a letter from this administration that said I
Speaker 7: had to prove I don't you know that that's my
Speaker 7: primary residence. Okay, I had as a matter of law,
Speaker 7: I had to live in the city last year to
Speaker 7: be deputy mayor. Of course, the people in the Mondani
Speaker 7: administration know that I've lived in this city for forty years.
Speaker 7: I paid taxes in this city for forty years. I've
Speaker 7: lived at that address for more than a decade, and
Speaker 7: I was first Deputy Mayor and had to legally live
Speaker 7: in New York to be first Deputy Mayor as my
Speaker 7: primary residence. And they had the audacity to send me
Speaker 7: a notice. Just unbelievable.
Speaker 4: How many notices I heard different numbers. I heard that
Speaker 4: nine hundred and seventy five thousand notices were in correct.
Speaker 7: And that's that basically is basically virtually every homeowner, co op,
Speaker 7: condo owner in the city.
Speaker 14: And then that, and then they, and then they, and
Speaker 14: then and then they put the obligation on all of
Speaker 14: us nine hundred and seventy five people two thousands to
Speaker 14: say we were to prove that we're not guilty.
Speaker 3: Only if you got notice saying that you're in that
Speaker 3: zone of seventeen thousand, the.
Speaker 7: Ones that were we opened your mouth those letters. Judge,
Speaker 7: I'm sort over inclusive number because there aren't going to
Speaker 7: be seventeen thousand homes.
Speaker 4: Of course, that's right.
Speaker 7: You know, among the most valuable homes in New York City,
Speaker 7: do you think that seventeen thousand of them are basically
Speaker 7: vacant and rarely used because they're second homes?
Speaker 8: Not? Not so.
Speaker 7: The seventeen thousand is a grossly over inclusive number. Yet
Speaker 7: now people like myself, who anybody would know is a
Speaker 7: New Yorker and always has been all right, and had
Speaker 7: to be as first Deputy mayor, I got to prove
Speaker 7: that that's my primary residence. That's insane, Craig.
Speaker 4: Eaton, Randy.
Speaker 5: The bigger problem of hearing from my clients is that
Speaker 5: if you want to claim the exemption, you have to
Speaker 5: get to the end of the application online and you
Speaker 5: have to give them your address, your social Security number,
Speaker 5: you drive is life since number tax returns, so it's
Speaker 5: like a phishing expedition almost. But in order to claim
Speaker 5: the exemption, you have to upload all this information first,
Speaker 5: Otherwise you can't get to the end of the application
Speaker 5: online to say you're exempt.
Speaker 7: You are completely right, Craig, you got to it says
Speaker 7: in the notice that you know, I've got to my
Speaker 7: documents to back up what I say. That's things like
Speaker 7: when you tax return, I got to give this administration
Speaker 7: my tax return. Okay. They are already under this law,
Speaker 7: the state law, they have access to foo paid city taxes.
Speaker 7: That's city income taxes. That's what proves you're a city resident.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 7: They didn't need to do this. This is just outright
Speaker 7: harassment invasion that state law. Absolutely contrary to that state law.
Speaker 2: You know, Randy, how many do you think at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, do we have a sense of
Speaker 2: how many? Okay, it's nine and seventy five, then it
Speaker 2: comes down to the seventeen thousand, right, nine seventy five
Speaker 2: thousand to seventeen. How do we have a gauge of, like,
Speaker 2: how many at the end of the day really really
Speaker 2: probably are in that?
Speaker 7: Yes, we do. It's going to be about a.
Speaker 2: Third of that at seventeen a.
Speaker 7: Few thousand, not not ten thousand, not seventeen thousand, not
Speaker 7: nine hundred and seventy five.
Speaker 2: Thousand, And in the meantime, the fishing expedition, like Craig
Speaker 2: is talking about, all that information goes in there and
Speaker 2: it goes to the Mundani administration. Is that right?
Speaker 5: And you have all the information out there that anyone
Speaker 5: can have access to.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's shocking.
Speaker 4: I mean, well, well.
Speaker 7: Look look what they already did. Okay, virtually every homeowner
Speaker 7: in this city had their name, address, and property value
Speaker 7: posted online. It's still online. Why doesn't the Department of
Speaker 7: Finance take that list down? Since they've now been forced
Speaker 7: to admit it really isn't in any way, shape or
Speaker 7: form related to the searchcharge.
Speaker 3: Because it's warfare Randy's last warfare.
Speaker 7: There's something fundamentally wrong with the way this administration is
Speaker 7: conducting itself, and they have to be held accountable. That's
Speaker 7: why people have to stand up. They have to they
Speaker 7: have to stand up in protest, and many people did
Speaker 7: over the past week and a half. They expressed their outrage.
Speaker 7: So the Mundane administration had to backpedal, They had to
Speaker 7: extend deadlines, they had to admit that they had over
Speaker 7: included on their lists. I mean, but we have to
Speaker 7: fight back. The only way to make this administration follow
Speaker 7: the law is to take them on and challenge them.
Speaker 2: So do you anticipate obviously a lot of legal action
Speaker 2: coming their way. I mean, it sounds like there's a
Speaker 2: lot of things there.
Speaker 7: Well, you know, I don't say this lately. I already
Speaker 7: have several lawsuits against this administration, including the one over
Speaker 7: the rent trees, where the mayor, you know, basically he
Speaker 7: turned what's supposed to be an independent board making independent
Speaker 7: decisions based on data and legal standards, what rent increases
Speaker 7: landlords should be able to impose on rent stabilized departments.
Speaker 7: He basically turned it into a sham process with the
Speaker 7: predetermined outcome to deliver on a campaign promise. So of
Speaker 7: course we're in court there and we will be arguing
Speaker 7: that case on the Merits on August twenty first.
Speaker 2: Well, you got to keep us posted. Former first Deputy
Speaker 2: Mayor of New York, Randy Mastro such important issues. I mean,
Speaker 2: everybody is just shocked about all of these things, and
Speaker 2: it's affecting so many New Yorkers.
Speaker 4: Randy Mashow, thank you for everything you've done in New
Speaker 4: York to keep common sense going. And we'll catch up
Speaker 4: with you again real soon. Thanks Randy, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: Randy.
Speaker 4: What do we stand for True God Bless America.
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