WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:05.120 Welcome to the five o'clock show. It's time for common sense. 2 00:00:06.080 --> 00:00:10.439 Now it's Kats and Gosby with John Catsimatids and Rita 3 00:00:10.519 --> 00:00:16.600 Gosby standing for truth, justice and the American Way bringing 4 00:00:16.679 --> 00:00:21.440 common sense to the world. Now here's John Katsimatids and 5 00:00:21.559 --> 00:00:28.120 Ria Gosby. 6 00:00:35.799 --> 00:00:39.479 Well, it is a big countdown and that is because 7 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:41.359 poles are going to be closing in a matter of 8 00:00:41.439 --> 00:00:46.479 hours in Michigan and Missouri. And the biggie in Michigan, 9 00:00:46.880 --> 00:00:51.200 Judge Weinberg, that guy in Michigan crazy. He is like 10 00:00:51.240 --> 00:00:53.960 one of the most extreme radical candidates. I think that 11 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:55.240 the Democrats have this season. 12 00:00:55.320 --> 00:01:00.679 Radical socialist islamis for him. And you supported the people 13 00:01:00.719 --> 00:01:03.640 who think that nine to eleven was well deserved. I 14 00:01:03.679 --> 00:01:06.560 mean really, and I'll tell you what's really troubling today. 15 00:01:06.599 --> 00:01:09.959 What twenty fifth anniversary of nine to eleven? This this 16 00:01:10.079 --> 00:01:16.159 garage jumping around saying that that we deserve nine to eleven. 17 00:01:16.280 --> 00:01:18.400 I mean, is this the most ridiculous thing in the world. 18 00:01:18.480 --> 00:01:21.879 Well, he's hanging around Hassan Piker, who is and and 19 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:26.239 he has been advocating for Hamas. He's been saying Israel's evil. 20 00:01:26.560 --> 00:01:28.719 He's saying, defund the police. 21 00:01:28.680 --> 00:01:29.480 Open borders. 22 00:01:29.560 --> 00:01:32.840 Yeah, this is a radical. This is a very radical extremist. 23 00:01:32.879 --> 00:01:35.920 And he's been pelling around with the dearborn mayor. And 24 00:01:35.959 --> 00:01:39.760 that dearborn mayor is the guy who like told people 25 00:01:40.120 --> 00:01:42.760 of Catholic faith and Christian faith that you're not welcome. 26 00:01:43.079 --> 00:01:44.719 What are the numbers here? What are the numbers here? 27 00:01:45.000 --> 00:01:48.280 Number trouble, he's troublem. But I'll tell you two things. Well, 28 00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:49.560 we're going to know the numbers tonight. 29 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:55.000 No, no, no, the numbers right now, he's ahead by 30 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:56.120 Eight's all crack right. 31 00:01:56.159 --> 00:01:59.560 I agree, it's all crap. Good I help. Your numbers 32 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:00.000 are tonight. 33 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:02.840 And obviously, you guys, the key issue is this is 34 00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:04.200 a democratic primary. 35 00:02:04.400 --> 00:02:06.079 Well, what is she going to do if she loses? 36 00:02:06.079 --> 00:02:08.680 Is she gonna endorse them? Well, by the way, she's 37 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:10.840 gonna do the right thing, Jo and sand for this country. 38 00:02:10.919 --> 00:02:14.039 You just hit the exact right point, because she's already 39 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:16.639 come out even though they're obviously trading barbs. They're in 40 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:20.719 the primary. Haley Stevens, who's quote considered the more moderate 41 00:02:20.759 --> 00:02:23.639 against abdulah l say ed, I think anybody's more moderate 42 00:02:24.039 --> 00:02:27.159 compared to him. Both of them have already said they're 43 00:02:27.159 --> 00:02:30.319 going to endorse the other, that they will support whoever 44 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:33.599 wins against Mike Rogers. She's a great candidate. 45 00:02:33.919 --> 00:02:37.719 So she's supporting the takeover of the Democratic Party by 46 00:02:37.759 --> 00:02:40.599 the Socialists and the Islamist How wonderful of that. 47 00:02:40.800 --> 00:02:44.560 Yes, because she is already saying whatever it is, she's 48 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:47.159 going to support that individual that already sends. 49 00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:49.400 A very interous message party over country. 50 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:53.080 It's a scary thing. And this guy in particular is 51 00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:55.840 very troubling. I mean when you see his background. To me, 52 00:02:55.919 --> 00:02:58.400 the people he's hanging around with, every single squad member 53 00:02:58.439 --> 00:03:01.680 has been supporting this guy. And you look at the rhetoric. 54 00:03:01.800 --> 00:03:06.080 It's a very visceral. It's we're gonna scream. He's screaming 55 00:03:06.120 --> 00:03:11.360 about fascism. His his views on Israel, everything is anti Israel. 56 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:16.919 He is downright anti Semitic, dangerous. I agree, very trouble. 57 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:20.080 But to your point, Bank Goards, Mike Rogers is going 58 00:03:20.120 --> 00:03:23.479 to be the Republican candidate. Former chairman of Hause Intelligence Committee, 59 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:27.400 former FBI agent, a buriant guy, a real patriarch, and 60 00:03:27.560 --> 00:03:29.039 somebody could be a great senator. 61 00:03:29.080 --> 00:03:31.360 Now you know, someday we're gonna have to have a 62 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:34.360 real discussion that all these people have want to become 63 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:39.520 American citizens, of all these people that don't really love 64 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:44.280 America to become an American citizen. I remember I was 65 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:48.280 six years old. I remember when I took my American citizenship. Example, 66 00:03:48.360 --> 00:03:50.680 you have to pledge allegiance to the year flag and 67 00:03:50.719 --> 00:03:55.080 to America. Are these people still are going to do it? 68 00:03:55.080 --> 00:03:56.319 Are they falsely. 69 00:03:56.000 --> 00:03:59.199 Doing Even if they do it, John, I won't believe it. 70 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:01.560 They're going to just do it for the sake of getting. 71 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:04.879 But not want. But yeah, they have to pledge allegiance. Yes, 72 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:08.479 So if they get the American citizenship papers, the next 73 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:11.879 day they're burning the flag, you can take back the 74 00:04:11.919 --> 00:04:13.000 American citizenship. 75 00:04:13.159 --> 00:04:15.439 What do you think? It's an interesting point because how 76 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:19.439 are they pledging allegiance to this country if they're supporting Hamas, 77 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:22.240 which is a terrorist group fighting against America. And how 78 00:04:22.279 --> 00:04:24.079 about the woman in New York, you guys who was 79 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:26.160 washing her hands with the American flag? 80 00:04:26.160 --> 00:04:28.040 What about a probation period? 81 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:30.240 What about some kind of a probation period when they 82 00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:31.560 become American citizens. 83 00:04:31.879 --> 00:04:33.639 Well some of them do it at birth and then 84 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:37.680 when they're twenty they start spewing this hate Judge Weinberg. 85 00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:40.800 Which is exactly why you shouldn't have birthright citizenship because 86 00:04:41.079 --> 00:04:43.759 they have no test of loyalty in this country. 87 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:45.560 Doctor Oz is on, we don't want you to bring 88 00:04:45.639 --> 00:04:45.920 them in. 89 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:48.600 Absolutely. We have the great doctor Oz, who is the 90 00:04:48.639 --> 00:04:53.000 administrator for US centers from Medicare and Medicaid services. And 91 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:57.240 doctor Oz, you had some big announcements today, massive amounts 92 00:04:57.240 --> 00:05:00.439 of fraud, including in New York, but elsewhere. Tell us 93 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:01.480 about it. 94 00:05:01.920 --> 00:05:02.160 Well. 95 00:05:02.199 --> 00:05:05.480 Today we had a big press event based on a 96 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:09.319 series of arrests indictments that took place over the last 97 00:05:09.319 --> 00:05:13.560 few days in Philadelphia. John has a nexus with Pennsylvania. 98 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:15.839 It's my home state, my home city. So it's particularly 99 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:20.639 painful to have to acknowledge that we've got a major problem. 100 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:23.120 And we focused on a couple big areas. One of 101 00:05:23.160 --> 00:05:27.000 them is personal care services. These are again when you 102 00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:31.040 know you're having your kids getting paid to do things 103 00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:33.480 for you that historically your family would just do for you. 104 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:36.839 And that job, being a personal care service, which most 105 00:05:36.839 --> 00:05:39.319 people never heard of, is the number one job in 106 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:42.079 New York, it's a number one job in California, and 107 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:44.399 it turns out it's a number one job in Pennsylvania, 108 00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:48.199 and these are shockingly big numbers. Two hundred thousand people 109 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:50.639 in Pennsylvania have half a million in New York. In 110 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:54.600 your's the closest competitor, which are retail sales, you have 111 00:05:54.680 --> 00:05:57.639 twice as many people doing this personal care service stuff. 112 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:01.839 So the fraud in Pennsylvania has gotten so bad again. 113 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:05.560 This is fraud for the taxpayers paying for services never rendered. 114 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:11.439 That We held the press conference across from the federal jail, 115 00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:15.439 the place where you would get held, and there were 116 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:18.879 people in that jail who were billing or getting billed 117 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:23.439 for personal care services, literally in jail. They In one case, 118 00:06:23.480 --> 00:06:26.199 a man and his wife had conspired. The wife was 119 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:29.439 pretending to take care of the husband, charging the state 120 00:06:29.480 --> 00:06:31.319 a lot of money, and he was in jail the 121 00:06:31.319 --> 00:06:33.560 whole time. There was another guy, These are true stories. 122 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:36.160 You can't make this stuff up. He was getting arrested 123 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:40.600 for a drug defense. While the cops were about to handcuff, 124 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:43.279 he said, I just check out of my job at 125 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:45.240 home health care. And he said, what are you talking about? 126 00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:47.079 He says, I'm a home care agent. I'm one of 127 00:06:47.079 --> 00:06:50.000 these people. I'm getting paid right now while i'm selling drugs. 128 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:51.920 So in fact, a lot of people doing it. And 129 00:06:51.959 --> 00:06:54.319 they said, well, but I mean we're going. 130 00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:55.879 To arrest you for that too. He said, were you 131 00:06:55.879 --> 00:06:58.120 going to arrest the entire city of Philadelphia? We're all 132 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:00.839 doing it. Another criminals said, were the best kept secret 133 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:03.639 they ever heard of. Everyone's making a fortune on this stuff. 134 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:05.959 But the problem is you can't get service and you 135 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:09.920 need it, especially folks who are suffering, who are vulnerable 136 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:12.680 that's waiting in line to get services. They can't because 137 00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:15.160 Froster is taking all the money. So you know, in 138 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:20.240 Pennsylvania very concretely ranks worst five nationally and how much 139 00:07:20.240 --> 00:07:22.519 money we're spending, both the number of people but also 140 00:07:22.759 --> 00:07:25.399 number of money made by the providers. Most of the 141 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:31.079 folks here in Pennsylvania are pissed off, upset about this terribly, 142 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:34.120 and so we have been taking aggressive stance this year. 143 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:37.120 By the way, I was in Maine yesterday, massive problem 144 00:07:37.160 --> 00:07:40.319 there as well, also around in that case autism, folks 145 00:07:40.360 --> 00:07:43.360 getting home care, but when they have the developmental disabilities. 146 00:07:43.720 --> 00:07:47.920 And in Maine, interestingly, most of the people doing this seem 147 00:07:47.959 --> 00:07:50.959 to be from Central Africa. They're from Rwanda and a 148 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:54.160 Democratic Republic of Congo, and they were brought to the 149 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:58.560 state by nonprofit organizations which made money by doing it. 150 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:01.319 Planted these people who are not running these big businesses 151 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:04.360 abusing the folks that are in those places. 152 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:07.519 Wow. So it's sort of like a like a cycle. 153 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:10.160 It's like they've got like a whole sort of operation, right, 154 00:08:10.240 --> 00:08:11.720 doctor oz Well. 155 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:14.600 The accusations go deeper. They involve again I'm not I 156 00:08:14.720 --> 00:08:17.560 don't have personal evidence of this, but sending money back 157 00:08:17.560 --> 00:08:21.360 to militia in uh Rwanda in Central Africa. 158 00:08:21.839 --> 00:08:22.000 Uh. 159 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:24.959 In this uh you know situation in Pennsylvania, the money 160 00:08:25.000 --> 00:08:28.319 is obviously part of a larger organized criminal effort. I 161 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:33.120 was at the site of a bus where the investigators 162 00:08:33.159 --> 00:08:36.840 went in to collect boxes after boxes of information that 163 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:41.000 links these different groups together. Because it's not just who's 164 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:44.840 actually you know, charging the money. These a criminal syndicate, 165 00:08:44.879 --> 00:08:49.600 a multinational often criminal syndicate that controls this web, intricate 166 00:08:49.639 --> 00:08:52.840 web of criminal groups. So the same folks in Philadelphia 167 00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:57.240 who are selling drugs are also selling services, and they 168 00:08:57.600 --> 00:09:01.919 like building medicaid more. It's safer you don't go to jail. 169 00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:04.440 If you do go to jail, you know, you'll steal 170 00:09:04.440 --> 00:09:06.639 a couple of million bucks go to jail for eighteen months. 171 00:09:06.679 --> 00:09:09.240 You don't go to a jail for drug trafficking or 172 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:11.919 a bank robbery. It's a lot to heftier penalty. So 173 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:16.679 we have taught criminals to take advantage of our healthcare system. 174 00:09:16.679 --> 00:09:19.320 And the part that's frustrating is it wasn't like this. 175 00:09:19.639 --> 00:09:23.200 These programs were built in a high trust society. America 176 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:25.559 over the last five years has become a low trust 177 00:09:25.639 --> 00:09:28.240 society ten point dropped by the way and how much 178 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:31.240 we trust our neighbors from fifty five to forty five 179 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:34.519 and what that does. It's really important, but most people 180 00:09:34.519 --> 00:09:36.639 don't trust their neighbors. All of a sudden, everyone thinks 181 00:09:36.639 --> 00:09:38.360 they got to get away with it. They know that 182 00:09:38.360 --> 00:09:40.320 everyone's lying to them, so they want the air a little 183 00:09:40.320 --> 00:09:43.360 piece of the of the action. And they're not just 184 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:46.200 stealing your money, they're stilling your health. They're stealing your trust. 185 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:49.240 And that's what's becoming evident as we look at the 186 00:09:49.279 --> 00:09:52.960 evidence in Philadelphia in particular, where everyone seems to be 187 00:09:53.039 --> 00:09:56.240 involved and if you're not taking your piece of the action, 188 00:09:56.360 --> 00:09:57.279 you're full. 189 00:09:59.159 --> 00:10:03.240 It is. It is mind boggling how far done we 190 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:06.320 went on this. I mean this started. This wasn't like that. 191 00:10:06.799 --> 00:10:09.279 This wasn't like that the last ten to fifteen years. 192 00:10:09.320 --> 00:10:11.080 It just happened in the last ten to fifteen years. 193 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:15.519 Talk to us COVID, John Covid. It all started with 194 00:10:15.559 --> 00:10:20.720 COVID because COVID taught the world that America, especially the 195 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:24.200 federal government where I'm serving, would throw money at problems 196 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:27.320 and we would did not have the guts to get 197 00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:29.720 the money back or to stop it from going out 198 00:10:29.879 --> 00:10:32.960 when criminal elements were involved. We wanted to be nice 199 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:35.759 people in Minnesota where I've been, I feel like Johnny 200 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:38.759 Cash by the way I've been everywhere man Minnesota. The 201 00:10:38.759 --> 00:10:41.120 worst thing, the worst thing you can say to someone 202 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:46.519 in Minnesota ready, racist, can't use that Maine, why do 203 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:48.879 they have this problem? Made again the essentral Africans. They 204 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:52.480 don't actually look like they are understanding even the culture there, 205 00:10:53.000 --> 00:10:56.559 but they were accepted because again, you could not use 206 00:10:56.600 --> 00:10:59.639 the word racist. This has nothing to do with your 207 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:02.639 skins in color, or your ethnic background or your gender. 208 00:11:02.919 --> 00:11:05.799 If you are stealing from poor people, you are not 209 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:09.000 on our team and we need to stop it. And 210 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:11.200 the only way to do that is to be difficult, 211 00:11:11.240 --> 00:11:13.600 like I being right now and why could the President 212 00:11:13.679 --> 00:11:16.960 do passionately about this? And the Vice President was appointed 213 00:11:17.000 --> 00:11:18.600 to be the head of the Task Force for the 214 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:21.039 White House against Fraud because we knew we needed an 215 00:11:21.080 --> 00:11:25.919 all of government of efforts. So today in Pennsylvania doing 216 00:11:25.919 --> 00:11:29.480 this press event right right opposite from the federal prison 217 00:11:29.840 --> 00:11:32.279 was Colin MacDonald, who is the US Attorney in charge 218 00:11:32.279 --> 00:11:35.240 of these issues. We had the US Attorney for eastern 219 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:40.320 part of Pennsylvania there as well. Day we had Day Sunday, 220 00:11:40.320 --> 00:11:43.639 who was the Attorney General in Pennsylvania. We had law enforcement 221 00:11:43.720 --> 00:11:48.399 at many different levels participating to ensure that justice is 222 00:11:48.440 --> 00:11:50.399 being done. And we need to send this message loudly 223 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:53.799 to the criminals that if you try to steal money 224 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:56.639 from the federal government or at this point even state 225 00:11:56.679 --> 00:11:59.000 governments because we have to reimburse the states for Medicaid, 226 00:11:59.320 --> 00:12:01.600 we will come out after you, which means do not 227 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:04.360 walk away from my voice, run because we are coming. 228 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:05.519 Wow. 229 00:12:06.679 --> 00:12:08.879 Let me tell you the problem we have in New 230 00:12:08.960 --> 00:12:11.759 York State and the problem you have in Philadelphia. You 231 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:15.639 have a DA's that don't want to arrest anybody, and 232 00:12:15.720 --> 00:12:19.639 the job has to be done by the US attorneys 233 00:12:19.639 --> 00:12:21.480 to maintain laws. 234 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:25.320 It's an excellent point. And then we have to ask ourselves, 235 00:12:25.600 --> 00:12:28.080 why is it we have so much corruption in our 236 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:30.720 governments that they don't want to enforce the law. And 237 00:12:30.759 --> 00:12:34.320 you just said it beautifully because it's oftentimes politically motivated. 238 00:12:34.440 --> 00:12:36.120 Why do we have so many people doing these personal 239 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:39.519 care service jobs? John, it's a jobs program. We are 240 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:44.679 literally employing otherwise unemployed people on the federal goal because 241 00:12:44.679 --> 00:12:47.240 when you pay them medicaid salaries, the states get the 242 00:12:47.320 --> 00:12:50.039 money back from the federal government, most of it. And 243 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:53.440 so for that reason, we're basically giving a jobs program 244 00:12:53.480 --> 00:12:55.759 to people to medicate people, by the way, whose other 245 00:12:55.879 --> 00:12:58.679 job happens to be drug dealer or some other oftentimes 246 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:01.720 illicit endeavor. And then here's the best part. We're learning 247 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:03.679 more and more in California and New York. I don't 248 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:06.919 know about it yet in Philadelphia and Pennsylvania, but these 249 00:13:06.919 --> 00:13:10.240 folks are getting unionized. When they get unionized, they have 250 00:13:10.360 --> 00:13:12.320 to pay union dues even if they don't want to. 251 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:14.559 We're pursuing that as well. And I just had a 252 00:13:14.600 --> 00:13:16.480 harsh letter of the states saying you may not do this. 253 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:19.080 You may not take federal dollars and put union dues 254 00:13:19.600 --> 00:13:21.840 with those dollars to work, because what does the union 255 00:13:21.879 --> 00:13:25.480 do with the union dues? They stay fund candidates who 256 00:13:25.519 --> 00:13:29.039 support their views. That's political patronage. That's wrong. 257 00:13:30.159 --> 00:13:35.000 Wow. Absolutely well, doctor Oz. We love having you. It's 258 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:37.960 so always mind blowing the amount of fraud that you 259 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:38.919 guys are uncovering. 260 00:13:38.919 --> 00:13:42.240 And I am so glad that the President Trump puts 261 00:13:42.279 --> 00:13:45.159 you in that position and put so many other good 262 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:48.440 people in positions where we're going to bring America back 263 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:51.399 to being honestly, you know, honesty and integrity. 264 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:55.320 Well, God bless you for giving me a place to 265 00:13:55.320 --> 00:13:57.720 talk about it a little bit. Lots more coming, making 266 00:13:57.720 --> 00:13:59.360 more trips back to New York. By the way, Nick 267 00:13:59.399 --> 00:14:01.039 Shirley and I wire of theirs, you know in Queen's 268 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:03.919 with the social adult daycare centers where New York leads 269 00:14:03.960 --> 00:14:06.600 the league. But I'll tell you Pennsylvania, where I'm from, 270 00:14:06.919 --> 00:14:10.159 we are number one in the country in getting charged 271 00:14:10.200 --> 00:14:13.759 for dead people. Believe it or not. Wow, number one 272 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:16.879 in the country for paying money for dead people to 273 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:20.919 get care. It's shocking that if it happens once much. 274 00:14:21.679 --> 00:14:24.799 You know who I hold responsible to the governors of 275 00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:28.480 the states. The governors of the states have have the 276 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:32.120 you know, the ability to go after local DA's to 277 00:14:32.159 --> 00:14:32.960 make sure they do the. 278 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:35.759 Understated attorneys gener'll have to do their tribes too. Yeah, 279 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:37.879 I mean it's horrible. 280 00:14:38.360 --> 00:14:40.480 Well, Dr Os, thank you so much for coming on 281 00:14:40.600 --> 00:14:43.720 and thank you for everything you do and to help 282 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:46.639 all America. And God bless you, and we'll catch up 283 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:47.159 again soon. 284 00:14:47.840 --> 00:14:48.799 God bless you. My friends. 285 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:51.120 Take that you, thank you, thank you, doctor Oz and 286 00:14:51.159 --> 00:14:55.200 you guys, as we were saying, tonight is a big 287 00:14:55.279 --> 00:14:58.720 test of the Democratic Party because well a very extreme 288 00:14:58.799 --> 00:15:03.480 democratic socialist win and maybe more than one race. Well, 289 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:06.600 talking about what's happening in the Democratic Party is former 290 00:15:06.759 --> 00:15:11.480 Democratic strategist still current political activists obviously. 291 00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:12.320 Very foch one tough gal. 292 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:15.200 She's great, isn't she. I love her, We love her, 293 00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:18.440 Melissa du Rosa, Melissa, what do you think is going 294 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:18.919 to happen? 295 00:15:19.840 --> 00:15:22.200 Well, great to be with you guys. You know, look, 296 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:25.480 if the polls are right, and we've all experienced a 297 00:15:25.519 --> 00:15:28.080 you know, different polling that we know is completely wrong. 298 00:15:28.159 --> 00:15:29.960 But if the polls are right, it looks like Elsa 299 00:15:30.120 --> 00:15:31.679 Ed is going to walk away with this thing to 300 00:15:31.759 --> 00:15:35.519 the tune of somewhere, you know, between eight ten fifteen points, 301 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:38.399 and this will be a if that's what happens. I 302 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:40.559 think that the person who will be celebrating tonight is 303 00:15:40.600 --> 00:15:43.600 Mike Rogers and the Republican Party in the state of Michigan, 304 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:46.159 because it puts him in a much much better position 305 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:48.679 to take that seat and flip it from. 306 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:49.120 Blue to red. 307 00:15:49.799 --> 00:15:53.600 You know what's amazing. And we were talking earlier in 308 00:15:53.639 --> 00:15:58.519 the show here Melissa that both el Sied and Haley Stevens, 309 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:00.960 who claims she's a quote mid have said that they're 310 00:16:00.960 --> 00:16:03.960 going to endorse the other. So they are completely cathing. 311 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:06.840 And this comes at the same time that there's are 312 00:16:06.840 --> 00:16:09.879 reports that Kamala Harris, first of all, who is definitely 313 00:16:09.879 --> 00:16:12.200 moving left. You can hear her rhetoric. She's talking about 314 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:16.399 packing the Supreme Court, statehood, She's talking about a whole 315 00:16:16.440 --> 00:16:19.200 bunch of stuff, and so if you look at all 316 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:22.720 of those things. She's also reaching out to Mundani. There's 317 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:25.080 been reports that they've had so she's trying to get 318 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:28.720 this DSA stamp on her the blessing of the DSA. 319 00:16:28.840 --> 00:16:30.480 What does that say? I mean they seem like to 320 00:16:30.519 --> 00:16:33.080 be surrendering, folding like cheap suits. 321 00:16:33.559 --> 00:16:36.879 No, you know, look It's the famous old saying, tell 322 00:16:36.919 --> 00:16:38.799 me where my people are going. I must know so 323 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:41.840 I can lead them. And that is Kamala Harrison and nutshell. 324 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:45.200 She is not a person of conviction. She's got no core. 325 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:48.600 All she cares about is power and being in office 326 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:51.720 for the sake of being in office. And so we 327 00:16:51.759 --> 00:16:54.519 saw during the twenty twenty four campaign, when she had 328 00:16:54.759 --> 00:16:58.320 two billion dollars behind her, that she basically lit on fire. 329 00:16:58.759 --> 00:17:02.480 We saw as she had every celebrity, all the mainstream media, 330 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:06.799 every Democrat fell in line, and she lost every single 331 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:09.319 swing state. And at the end of the day, people 332 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:12.559 are very good at sniffing out people who are not 333 00:17:12.720 --> 00:17:15.559 authentic and people who are just saying whatever it takes 334 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:18.880 to get elected. And in that race, she flip flopped 335 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:21.519 on fracking, she flipedopped on Medicare for All, she flip 336 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:25.119 flopped on the border, She full flopped on gun control. 337 00:17:25.200 --> 00:17:27.640 She had been a staunch advocate for gun control. Suddenly 338 00:17:27.640 --> 00:17:29.720 everywhere she's going she's telling people she owns a gun. 339 00:17:29.759 --> 00:17:32.759 And so you know, look, people, people can smell a phony, 340 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:35.839 and that's what happened, and you're seeing it again. You're 341 00:17:35.880 --> 00:17:39.000 seeing a woman who at one point was in law enforcement. 342 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:41.039 She worked in the DA's office. She was the Attorney 343 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:43.160 General of California. She used to tap the fact that 344 00:17:43.200 --> 00:17:45.799 she was tough on crime. And you're seeing her cozying 345 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:49.359 up to the DSA. She is she is taking meetings 346 00:17:49.400 --> 00:17:53.039 with the pro Palestinian groups, the anti Israel groups, who 347 00:17:53.079 --> 00:17:56.319 I would argue are even you know, borderline pro Hamas groups, 348 00:17:56.759 --> 00:17:59.400 And she is already you know, taking all of the 349 00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:04.119 position of these wackoed DSA people who are trying to 350 00:18:04.279 --> 00:18:07.119 drag the party off a cliff to the left. And 351 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:11.079 so she's tilting it wind mills once again. But more dangerously, 352 00:18:11.279 --> 00:18:14.079 it's it's the direction you're seeing a lot of them 353 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:17.240 go in. They believe that that's where the grassroots energy is. 354 00:18:17.480 --> 00:18:19.920 They believe that in a presidential you're going to need 355 00:18:19.960 --> 00:18:24.279 to appease the activist, looney wing of the party, and 356 00:18:24.319 --> 00:18:26.799 then in doing so, they're going to make it impossible 357 00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:29.279 to win the general election, and they are going to 358 00:18:29.319 --> 00:18:32.359 redefine the Democratic Party as we all have known it 359 00:18:32.400 --> 00:18:34.960 for our entire lives. So it's a very very dangerous 360 00:18:35.000 --> 00:18:36.839 situation we find ourselves in right now. 361 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:39.400 It is. And also you can't discount it. I mean, 362 00:18:39.440 --> 00:18:43.000 you know, I love the idea that you're saying that 363 00:18:43.079 --> 00:18:46.319 Mike Rodgers will win in November. And he's a he's 364 00:18:46.359 --> 00:18:48.640 a terrific candidate. I mean, you look at his backgrounds. 365 00:18:49.119 --> 00:18:50.720 But these people that's you know, a lot of people 366 00:18:50.799 --> 00:18:53.119 said Mondani's never going to win, and here we are. 367 00:18:54.319 --> 00:18:54.400 No. 368 00:18:54.640 --> 00:18:56.319 I mean, look, I don't know that it's a shoe 369 00:18:56.319 --> 00:18:59.200 in for Mike Rodgers, but it's certainly he's He will 370 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:01.440 be in a much better position than if he were 371 00:19:01.480 --> 00:19:05.400 running against Haley Stevens, who fought to save the auto industry, 372 00:19:05.440 --> 00:19:10.000 who is a moderate, real Michigan you know, resident all 373 00:19:10.039 --> 00:19:13.799 of her life and who has taken moderate positions her 374 00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:16.079 whole life. And you're going to put him up against 375 00:19:16.119 --> 00:19:18.599 Mike Rodgers, up against some guy who's hanging out with 376 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:22.160 Hassan Piker. And I do not believe that that translates 377 00:19:22.599 --> 00:19:26.640 statewide in a purple state like Michigan, which voted for 378 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:29.160 Trump twice in the last three times that he ran. 379 00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:32.759 It just it doesn't smell. It doesn't pass the smell test. 380 00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:35.039 And now I hope you're right. I hope you're right. 381 00:19:35.359 --> 00:19:37.640 Yeah, so I think it works. That stuff may work 382 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:40.920 in small blue city council districts and congressional districts, and 383 00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:43.640 even blue cities like New York and Chicago. But I 384 00:19:43.680 --> 00:19:46.200 don't think that you know that dog hunts been in 385 00:19:46.240 --> 00:19:49.680 a purple state which built on the middle class and 386 00:19:49.839 --> 00:19:51.039 union workers. 387 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:53.519 Craig Eaton, You know, Melissa, I agree with you, but 388 00:19:53.640 --> 00:19:56.359 I do fear the fact that the country is trending 389 00:19:56.440 --> 00:19:58.839 towards socialism. I mean, look at around the country, the 390 00:19:58.920 --> 00:20:02.079 different mayors that have and we can't take this for 391 00:20:02.119 --> 00:20:04.400 granted here. I mean, this is a scary proposition. 392 00:20:05.480 --> 00:20:07.559 No no one can take it for granted. And look, 393 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:10.319 obviously the Republicans are going to ring the alarm bell 394 00:20:10.359 --> 00:20:14.000 on this, but sane Democrats who care about the future 395 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:16.920 of this party have to speak up too, because a 396 00:20:16.920 --> 00:20:19.240 lot of this is being driven by eighteen to thirty 397 00:20:19.319 --> 00:20:21.559 nine year olds. They see it on TikTok, they see 398 00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:24.160 it on social media. No one reads beyond the headline. 399 00:20:24.200 --> 00:20:28.240 No one has any historical perspective or institutional knowledge. I mean, 400 00:20:28.279 --> 00:20:32.119 these ideas have been tried and failed everywhere around the world, 401 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:35.079