1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Happy Monday, guys. Welcome to pun Time on a Wager 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,839 Talk TV. Andrew McGinnis, Carma and Bianco and we are 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,119 pumped me back here. You know, I missed doing park 4 00:00:14,199 --> 00:00:17,000 time on the weekends, car, I miss doing shows, and 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,199 it's nice to relax. Obviously I did my every game 6 00:00:19,199 --> 00:00:21,320 on the board, you do your six and sixty. But 7 00:00:21,359 --> 00:00:23,760 I always feel ready to go and fired up for 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,679 a Monday. So good to be here. We got what 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,480 four games here on the Monday slate. Let's hope we 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,440 can make it a good one man, some decent games here. 11 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:31,480 How was your weekend. 12 00:00:33,039 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 2: Up and down? Kind of like some of the players 13 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,840 in the NFL who definitely went down. Unfortunately, you never 14 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:43,320 want to see guys getting hurt. The six and sixty man, 15 00:00:43,359 --> 00:00:46,359 it was, to use a Vegas mob term, it was 16 00:00:46,399 --> 00:00:49,960 eighty six. I think you're wenting like one in five 17 00:00:50,719 --> 00:00:52,640 or one four and one, depending on what you got 18 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,799 the total on in the Colorado game, which was at 19 00:00:55,799 --> 00:00:57,399 six for a while before it went to six and 20 00:00:57,439 --> 00:01:01,439 a half. We will bounce back from that, we always 21 00:01:01,759 --> 00:01:06,319 do NHL. I wanted to quickly talk Andrew. I'm not 22 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,159 sure if you grabbed your coffee yet if you if 23 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:09,840 you did, if you haven't, you can go and grab 24 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,719 it because I'm gonna do my old man yelling at 25 00:01:11,719 --> 00:01:16,519 it house man I had. I had the over in 26 00:01:16,519 --> 00:01:19,280 in the Dallas game. Dallas and Florida over five and 27 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,799 a half in that game, and then got the best 28 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,799 number because it all the five and a half were 29 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,079 snapped up in the last half hour before the game. 30 00:01:27,719 --> 00:01:34,239 The game started and went to six and it was man. 31 00:01:34,359 --> 00:01:37,920 Florida gets four goals, Dallas shut out at home and 32 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,159 they looked absolutely flat. They I think they had like 33 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,599 fifteen shots on goal. They didn't look good in the 34 00:01:43,599 --> 00:01:45,400 first period. Neither team looked good in the first period. 35 00:01:45,439 --> 00:01:48,159 But I think because of the it was Tyler Sagan 36 00:01:48,239 --> 00:01:52,079 day or night where they honored him, and whatever they 37 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,879 had on the ice obviously contributed to that first period 38 00:01:55,879 --> 00:01:59,200 because that puck was bouncing all over the place. We 39 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,560 talked about bouncing bucks. But they get shut out on 40 00:02:02,599 --> 00:02:05,480 home ice. I looked at the XG afterwards and it 41 00:02:05,599 --> 00:02:07,480 was over six and a half of XG and like, okay, 42 00:02:07,519 --> 00:02:09,919 well the crazy chances, they just couldn't score. So I 43 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:14,199 apologize if you followed on that Florida play last night. 44 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,759 But other than that, Andrew, it was sort of an 45 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,520 up and down weekend two in one here at one 46 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,319 and two there. It's one of those ones where you 47 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,919 don't get damaged, but you're upset because you didn't win. 48 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:30,599 And I'm upset twice because not only do my bets 49 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:35,400 don't My bets don't win for me, but they don't 50 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,240 win for clients either. Like I don't want a client 51 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,919 going five and four. Ye it might sound and because 52 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,240 I'm not laying a lot of big it might not 53 00:02:42,319 --> 00:02:44,360 sound good. I want the guy to go Like if 54 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,080 there's like nine plays between Saturday and Sunday, I want 55 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,000 the guy to go seven and two at worst. I 56 00:02:50,039 --> 00:02:51,680 know it's a lot to ask for, but it's what 57 00:02:51,759 --> 00:02:55,039 you want. We can. We can ask for whatever we want. 58 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:59,759 But man, some interesting games. And today we're gonna talk 59 00:02:59,759 --> 00:03:04,159 about to the battle of the Sunshine State Florida and 60 00:03:04,199 --> 00:03:07,000 Tampa Bay. That we're going to talk a couple Canadian teams, 61 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,680 Winnipeg and Ottawa. The return of I didn't know he 62 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,240 was due back. I saw nothing of it on Wednesday 63 00:03:15,439 --> 00:03:18,960 all week when I took Washington in the six and 64 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,439 sixty of Connor Hallibuck returning in goal for Winnipeg, and 65 00:03:22,479 --> 00:03:24,960 he looked good. He almost shut them out if it 66 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,280 wasn't for a power play goal in the last three 67 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,159 minutes of the game. But they beat Washington five to one. 68 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:32,840 And then we're going to finish it off with an 69 00:03:32,879 --> 00:03:36,280 all West battle the La Kings in Dallas to take 70 00:03:36,319 --> 00:03:41,400 on that flat Stars team. See if Dallas rebounds from 71 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,719 being shut out at home ice Andrew, I know you 72 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:48,599 love the team that doesn't score in their previous game angle, 73 00:03:48,639 --> 00:03:51,400 but we're going to talk about that later. And thanks 74 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:57,400 guys everyone in the chat. Lost kid, Dude, I feel 75 00:03:57,439 --> 00:04:01,240 so bad for you. Listen. You know we joke around 76 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,599 about right, joke around about teams all season long, and 77 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,280 guys will get on my case or like, why do 78 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,439 you why do you hate my team so much? Why 79 00:04:10,479 --> 00:04:13,439 are you an anti fan or whatever? But the Pittsburgh 80 00:04:13,439 --> 00:04:18,199 Penguins Andrew against the San Jose Sharks allow like four 81 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,519 goals I think it was in the third period over 82 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,199 a twelve minute span, lose the game in ot and 83 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,079 then yesterday the exact same was it yesterday? The exact 84 00:04:28,079 --> 00:04:31,000 same thing. They allow four goals and then lose it 85 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:39,360 in ot. Man that is unbelievable. Eight or nine third 86 00:04:39,399 --> 00:04:42,800 period goals by the Pittsburgh Penguins allowed on home ice 87 00:04:43,319 --> 00:04:46,319 in their last couple of games. That is rough. I 88 00:04:46,639 --> 00:04:49,279 don't know who you blame. Maybe you blame the coach 89 00:04:49,319 --> 00:04:53,040 for not calling a time out when clearly the team 90 00:04:53,199 --> 00:04:55,399 is in a bit of a shambles. But did you 91 00:04:55,439 --> 00:04:59,199 catch any of those scores, Carve? 92 00:04:59,399 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: I mean, when it comes down to it, they can. 93 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,920 They couldn't hold a lead if their life depended on 94 00:05:03,959 --> 00:05:07,160 it right now, they could not hold a lead whatsoever 95 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:11,120 this Pittsburgh team. Are we starting to see teams overall 96 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,959 in the NHL realize who they are. Like people talk 97 00:05:14,959 --> 00:05:19,240 about the American Thanksgiving benchmark, but maybe mid December that 98 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,519 can be our new benchmark. We're starting to find out 99 00:05:21,519 --> 00:05:25,240 some of these teams who they really are. And you know, 100 00:05:25,439 --> 00:05:27,639 just like that, Pittsburgh looked so great and now all 101 00:05:27,639 --> 00:05:29,680 of a sudden they're starting to fall off again. Because 102 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,079 there was a time where we were saying, oh man, 103 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,720 if the Penguins play well, they're not going to want 104 00:05:34,759 --> 00:05:37,480 to trade anybody, and now they're starting to fall off 105 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,439 a little bit. So you know what, car I will 106 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,879 say this, that's san Jose one. I'll be we have 107 00:05:43,959 --> 00:05:45,560 to look at it from a let's look at it 108 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,680 from a glass half full perspective. I'm more impressed with 109 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,800 what San Jose did than disgusted with what Pittsburgh did 110 00:05:53,879 --> 00:05:57,319 because San Jose. Good for them. They continue to come back. 111 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,000 And one thing you got to give that team credit 112 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,839 for is that they can you to fight. They continue 113 00:06:01,879 --> 00:06:04,120 to fight, and I do respect it like they play 114 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,800 a full sixty minutes. It was a frustrating hockey weekend 115 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,800 for me in the NHL caarm because I did my 116 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,759 every game on the board video on Saturday, and so 117 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,160 just like yourself, because you do your six and sixty prep, 118 00:06:17,959 --> 00:06:19,680 I had so many picks that I liked, but I 119 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,279 didn't want to go crazy with the volume. And it 120 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,040 was one of those ones where like a couple of 121 00:06:25,079 --> 00:06:26,839 the plays I left off the board were the ones 122 00:06:26,879 --> 00:06:28,639 that went through. So I saw a lot of guys 123 00:06:28,639 --> 00:06:31,120 were able to make cash and tickets because of my video. 124 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,519 But Tampa Bay was actually my my favorite play of 125 00:06:34,519 --> 00:06:37,399 the day. And it's the shootout losses that are dr 126 00:06:37,519 --> 00:06:39,480 I might be zero and four this year and shootouts 127 00:06:39,519 --> 00:06:42,480 KRM and those can be a bit frustrating, but you 128 00:06:42,519 --> 00:06:42,879 know it was. 129 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,519 Speaker 2: I'm usually on the Vegas Golden Nights when it goes 130 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,399 to overtime, and they have such a miserable OT record. 131 00:06:50,879 --> 00:06:54,600 But listen, not a lot of guys across shows. And 132 00:06:54,639 --> 00:06:56,560 I'm not talking about like Wayger talking about talking about 133 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,240 like anything. Any shows that you see on like or 134 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:05,800 whatever will admit. We'll admit things like this. Like you know, 135 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,480 on Saturday, I had one NHL play Andrew and and 136 00:07:09,519 --> 00:07:14,199 that's the one to end up losing. But every other 137 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:19,000 lean that I had, if I had released the six plays, 138 00:07:19,079 --> 00:07:21,040 and I'm not talking about the six and sixty, I'm 139 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,680 talking about the six other plays that I was looking at, 140 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,439 but I left them on the cutting room floor. I'm like, 141 00:07:25,759 --> 00:07:28,120 they just don't seem strong enough. But I like them. 142 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,160 I've got I would have gone one in five with 143 00:07:30,199 --> 00:07:34,399 those plays, So I am glad I didn't release them. 144 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,759 I just don't want to force someone to take a 145 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,480 game in which i'm not I'm not entirely sure. I 146 00:07:40,519 --> 00:07:43,519 want to put my money on and that's that's always 147 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,959 going to be that way with me. But crazy, you know, 148 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,839 you look at the Edmonton Olers, they go into Toronto 149 00:07:51,879 --> 00:07:56,279 Tristan Jarr. They get to win against the Leafs, beat 150 00:07:56,279 --> 00:08:00,319 them like six to three. Andrew great story, my buddy Joe. 151 00:08:00,439 --> 00:08:02,720 You know Joe, you've met Joe, the guy who's the 152 00:08:02,759 --> 00:08:06,920 manager of that sports bar that he he posts an 153 00:08:06,959 --> 00:08:11,040 image of his ticket halfway through the game. He's like, 154 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:15,680 told you boys, easy money he had. He he always 155 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,040 plays overs in the Leafs games. He he clicked on 156 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,319 under and did not notice he had under six and 157 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:26,079 a half when in the ticket and posted a picture 158 00:08:26,079 --> 00:08:28,560 of the ticket, thought he had won. When I go, Joe, 159 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,320 I go, you took the under, He's like, oh yeah, 160 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,639 he was pissed right because it literally puts you on tilt. 161 00:08:37,279 --> 00:08:38,720 You tell all your friends and you show him a 162 00:08:38,759 --> 00:08:41,919 ticket and you think you've won, when in fact, we've 163 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,159 all misclicked in our lives. Boys, we all in our lives. 164 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,440 It is going to happen. But what that said? And 165 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,480 then uh and then they go into uh the owners. 166 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,879 Getting back to the story. They go into Montreal yesterday 167 00:08:54,919 --> 00:08:57,480 and the Habs pretty much put on a clinic. The 168 00:08:57,519 --> 00:09:00,600 Habs were the better team from start to finish and 169 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:05,720 killed off a full two minute power play in the 170 00:09:05,759 --> 00:09:11,399 first period against the Oiler, So kudos to your boys there. 171 00:09:11,919 --> 00:09:14,639 I won't even mention that savers are. 172 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: You don't really see that very often though, Hey, guys, 173 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,679 like I want people to see it in the chat. 174 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,440 Let me know. I mean, how often do you see it? 175 00:09:21,759 --> 00:09:24,360 Two penalties on one play, karm Like, I talked to 176 00:09:24,399 --> 00:09:27,000 somebody and they said, maybe ten times a year, we'll 177 00:09:27,039 --> 00:09:30,600 see that. Like, they had a delayed penalty and then 178 00:09:30,639 --> 00:09:33,440 another player took a penalty, so it was a full 179 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,399 two minutes with the five on three like that was 180 00:09:37,399 --> 00:09:40,039 really tough, especially against the Edmonton Oilers. That's tough. I 181 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,200 do want to mention that I hit my college hockey 182 00:09:42,279 --> 00:09:46,240 free play I gave out on Friday, and college hockey 183 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,279 four percent best bet, so maybe Fridays turned into college 184 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,879 hockey Fridays. I'll give out one play every single Friday. 185 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,879 The cool thing about college hockey, which is why I'm 186 00:09:55,919 --> 00:09:59,080 more comfortable giving those out than the AHL, which I 187 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,840 have been following. But Karen, the AHL, this is a 188 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,600 shit ton of teams, man. There's a lot of teams 189 00:10:04,639 --> 00:10:07,919 in the AHL. But NC Double A it's like football. 190 00:10:08,279 --> 00:10:12,039 They only play every weekend, like junior hockey leagues in Canada. 191 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,519 For us they play on Wednesdays, Thursdays, Tuesdays, but NC 192 00:10:15,639 --> 00:10:17,679 double A Hockey they only play on the weekend. So 193 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,279 it's a bit easier for me to allocate my time 194 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,360 handicapping when they only play on the weekends. All right, 195 00:10:23,399 --> 00:10:24,759 before we get to the show, we do have to 196 00:10:24,759 --> 00:10:27,000 get to the show with the with the with the 197 00:10:27,279 --> 00:10:30,120 games for today. We have this graphic here to pull up, 198 00:10:30,159 --> 00:10:33,399 and I feel like it's important for us to mention this. 199 00:10:33,399 --> 00:10:36,200 This is a massive, massive trade, carm. The last time 200 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,360 you and I talked about a trade together, that trade 201 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,759 was a little bit less groundbreaking with Stuart Skinner and 202 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:48,720 Tristan Jari. This time Quinn hughes, he gets his wish, 203 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,159 he gets out of Vancouver. Rumor has it that he 204 00:10:52,639 --> 00:10:56,600 respectfully requested out. Obviously the team is not going in 205 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,879 the right direction. But look at the quantity that Van 206 00:11:00,039 --> 00:11:04,360 Hoover gets back. They get a defenseman, they get a forward, 207 00:11:05,039 --> 00:11:08,480 they get a lot for this this this one player, 208 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,879 twenty twenty six first round pick Liam ogrin Ze William 209 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,799 and Marco Rossi and Karl. The only thing is with 210 00:11:16,919 --> 00:11:21,360 this deal here is that he is only under contract 211 00:11:21,399 --> 00:11:23,840 for a short period of time. This was not a 212 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:28,679 sign and trade deal, so he did say, oh, well, 213 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,480 you know, I'm you know, could certainly be interested in 214 00:11:31,519 --> 00:11:35,039 signing long term. We'll see what happens. This is a 215 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,200 lot to give up for a player that might not 216 00:11:39,399 --> 00:11:43,919 stay for the next several years. If Minnesota is able 217 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,519 to sign him, this is a banger of a trade. 218 00:11:46,919 --> 00:11:50,159 But especially if they don't sign him. I actually have 219 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,840 to tip my cap to the Minnesota Wild for what 220 00:11:52,879 --> 00:11:55,720 they were able to do. I see uh yeah comments 221 00:11:55,759 --> 00:11:59,000 in here talking about this. Vancouver hauled in a major catch. 222 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,080 Look at the end of the day, it's you never 223 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,240 want to lose a top player in the league. You know, 224 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,559 Quinny Hughes isn't just one of the best defensemen in 225 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,360 the league, He's one of the best players in the league. 226 00:12:09,919 --> 00:12:11,600 But I thought they did a pretty good job. And 227 00:12:11,639 --> 00:12:14,840 guess what, Zev william gets a goal and assist in 228 00:12:14,879 --> 00:12:17,960 his first game as a Vancouver Canuck. Marco Rossi is 229 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,480 a great centerman, but he's injured. And Liam Olgrin good 230 00:12:20,519 --> 00:12:23,519 prospect and twenty twenty six first round pick. So carm 231 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,399 your quick thoughts on this street. 232 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: I hope I don't piss off any Minnesota Wild fans 233 00:12:30,159 --> 00:12:35,240 like Terry Edelman, but they're going to have to They're 234 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,399 going to have to give him a huge sack of 235 00:12:37,519 --> 00:12:41,039 money in order for him to stay. It could turn 236 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,840 out to be a rental player for the season, which 237 00:12:43,879 --> 00:12:46,279 means that they gave up a lot and Vancouver wins 238 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,279 that trade because if he truly wants to play with 239 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,960 his bros, they're going to find a way of making 240 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:57,600 it happen. So we'll see what what what comes of it. 241 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,720 But yeah, you have to look sort of look at 242 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,360 some of these organizations and uh, you know, Vancouver played 243 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,320 well in their first game without uh, without Hughes. It's 244 00:13:06,399 --> 00:13:09,879 it's kind of like always that bump after after a 245 00:13:09,919 --> 00:13:11,519 move and when a player leaves or like when a 246 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,320 player gets injured. So we'll see, you know, we'll see 247 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,480 what happens with regards to this trade. But it's gonna 248 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,799 take a lot of money in order to keep them there, 249 00:13:20,799 --> 00:13:22,840 and they dished out they do have the money there 250 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,759 they I think, I'm pretty sure I saw they can. 251 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,279 They can and do have the cap space where they 252 00:13:28,279 --> 00:13:31,240 don't have to front front load a contract. But they 253 00:13:31,279 --> 00:13:36,159 did give Caprizov a nice chunk of change as well, 254 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,919 too in Minnesota. So we're going to see, Uh, if 255 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,519 nothing else, I live in a city or just north 256 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,120 of it that puts all of their eggs in one 257 00:13:46,159 --> 00:13:49,039 basket when it comes to their hockey teams and their players, 258 00:13:50,639 --> 00:13:54,639 and it backfires on them. So obviously that's the core 259 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,440 four we're talking about in Toronto, and we're going to 260 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,200 talk about ask Austin Matthews and the Fall of Austin 261 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,279 Matthews on Wednesday show. Yeah, there's some very interesting numbers 262 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,720 on the X and when you look at them, they 263 00:14:08,759 --> 00:14:11,519 are troubling. But we'll talk about that because we got 264 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,399 to talk about Florida in Tampa Bay. Andrew, Yeah, I. 265 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: Can just one more thing. I get the thought, and 266 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,480 I'm with you that it's like a lot to trade for. 267 00:14:21,679 --> 00:14:25,559 The only thing I'll say is that I respect a 268 00:14:25,679 --> 00:14:28,320 team going for it, like if this is a lot 269 00:14:28,399 --> 00:14:33,759 for a rental player. But Minnesota they're kind of like 270 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,240 the Carolina Hurricanes of the of the Western Conference, don't 271 00:14:37,279 --> 00:14:40,399 you think, Like every year they make the playoffs, it 272 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,279 seems like, and every year they get bounced in the 273 00:14:43,279 --> 00:14:46,360 first round or they're in around that wild card. Maybe 274 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,840 they're trying to get over the hump. Maybe they're trying 275 00:14:48,879 --> 00:14:52,120 to be taken seriously for the first time in a while, 276 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,639 like it takes a lot. Like look at Carolina, they 277 00:14:54,679 --> 00:14:57,080 tried to get Miko Ranton. He didn't want to be there. 278 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,200 You try to get certain people they don't want to 279 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,559 be there. One one thing I love about the NHL 280 00:15:01,639 --> 00:15:04,480 is how you know teams can be different this year 281 00:15:04,519 --> 00:15:06,279 than they were last year, or that you know the 282 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,440 black Hawks are doing better, the Sharks are doing better. 283 00:15:08,799 --> 00:15:14,399 I do respect that the Stones that Billy Garren head 284 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,519 for Minnesota for going out and getting Quinny Hughes, because 285 00:15:17,559 --> 00:15:19,679 you don't see that enough in the league anymore. But 286 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,919 you know, all he can do is try as general manager. 287 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,639 Because you know, one guy named Kevin Adams for the 288 00:15:27,639 --> 00:15:31,000 Buffalo Sabers, he's about to lose his job because he 289 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,000 probably hasn't been trying enough for making these trades. So 290 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,440 I think you got to respect a guy for trying. 291 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:37,240 You gotta respect a guy. 292 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,399 Speaker 2: And I do, and and and the last word on 293 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,879 this one is obviously my take is that I would 294 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,159 rather see some teams in the East, which I think 295 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:53,799 the Eastern Conference is much more wide open and than 296 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,919 where one or two key players could put a team 297 00:15:58,039 --> 00:16:00,480 over the top, and especially beating the team. I'm not 298 00:16:00,519 --> 00:16:02,159 gonna have a team that could be having a down 299 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:07,200 year because of the injuries, which is Florida. Matthew t 300 00:16:07,279 --> 00:16:10,240 Chuck should be back. They're talking about in I think 301 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:15,039 they said in December, sorry in January, but Barkof likely 302 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,120 likely he's gone for the whole season, could return for 303 00:16:18,159 --> 00:16:20,639 the playoffs. When they say could return for the playoffs, 304 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,840 that's normally not a good sign there. I just think 305 00:16:23,879 --> 00:16:27,200 the Western Conference is so tough for a team to 306 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,679 make it out of the Western Conference. You have Vegas, 307 00:16:29,759 --> 00:16:33,480 You've got Colorado, You've got Dallas. For a team like Minnesota, 308 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,399 who's a very good team, they've got to beat likely 309 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,679 two of those in a seven game series, and I'm 310 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,200 not sure if they can do it, but we shall see. 311 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,879 With that said, let's get to it because the comments 312 00:16:43,919 --> 00:16:46,440 later on are gonna be like, come on, guys, give 313 00:16:46,519 --> 00:16:49,639 us some winners. Tampa Bay minus one thirty five, Florida 314 00:16:49,639 --> 00:16:52,720 plus one eleven. End of the road trip for Florida, 315 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,240 they're back at home, not at home, but in the 316 00:16:56,279 --> 00:16:58,639 Sunshine State. Five and a half is the total here 317 00:16:58,679 --> 00:17:01,200 Andrew where you're going with this one. 318 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of funny here, Karl, because both teams 319 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,559 doing some traveling, right, not just the pan Like you know, 320 00:17:07,599 --> 00:17:10,839 we had the Panthers a couple of games on the road, 321 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,039 Mammoth Avalanche Stars, and then of course the Lightning with 322 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:21,000 that what was it, the the What Devils, Islanders, Canadians Leafs. 323 00:17:21,039 --> 00:17:22,680 I mean, they had a little bit of a roadie 324 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,000 of their own. So this one's kind of interesting because 325 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,240 you know, they put up an eight spot against the Devils, 326 00:17:28,279 --> 00:17:31,559 and of course I was on them against the Islanders 327 00:17:31,599 --> 00:17:35,880 the next game against in New York because I thought 328 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,119 that rapid revenge angle was going to be there. You know, 329 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,680 they had already gone zero to two against the New 330 00:17:41,759 --> 00:17:44,039 York Islanders, not playing very well. Figured to be a 331 00:17:44,079 --> 00:17:45,920 game they would take seriously. They had lost to the 332 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,079 Islanders just two weeks ago and got shut out against them, 333 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,880 and they didn't really show up. Look at this Panthers team, though, 334 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,759 I think they caught the Dallas Stars in a tough situation. 335 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:58,839 That was one of the plays that I talked about 336 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,880 on my show, did lean towards the Panthers side, and 337 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,559 that one didn't get to the window unfortunately. But Karen, 338 00:18:05,559 --> 00:18:08,160 when I look at this one, this to me is 339 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,559 gonna be penalty filled. It's gonna be action packed. And 340 00:18:10,599 --> 00:18:14,559 I think with both teams so well traveled, I think 341 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,039 the overs in play here. I think we see these 342 00:18:17,039 --> 00:18:20,000 two teams, they always get up for games against each other. 343 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,680 I know we've got two good goaltenders, but I kind 344 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,680 of lean towards the over. You know, both teams well traveled, 345 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,160 there should be some fatigue mixed in there. There's been 346 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,319 some good results there as well. I think that we 347 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,359 get some goals in this one. And looking at some 348 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,039 of the metrics here for this Florida team, you know 349 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,279 they have been playing some tough teams and even in 350 00:18:38,279 --> 00:18:39,960 the games they haven't gone over a lot of the 351 00:18:40,039 --> 00:18:42,799 numbers say they should be going over as they've certainly 352 00:18:42,839 --> 00:18:45,720 been finding their offense a bit more. Bennett has been 353 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,880 picking it up, Ryan Hart has been picking it up, 354 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,160 and it's been very good to see Tampa Bay get 355 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,960 a lot healthier. So I don't know what it is. 356 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,759 Maybe the Islanders just have the Lightning's number, but they 357 00:18:56,759 --> 00:18:59,440 couldn't score on that team. But I think tonight they'll 358 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,680 find some. So Monday night over. I think Tampa and 359 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,240 Florida the battle of the Sunshine State. I think we 360 00:19:06,279 --> 00:19:09,920 do get an over here in carm obviously looking at 361 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,799 a game here in which you know, we've got one 362 00:19:13,839 --> 00:19:17,720 team coming back home after a road trip. One team 363 00:19:17,839 --> 00:19:20,039 is the last game of the road trip. But we 364 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,480 always talk about like the first game back home after 365 00:19:22,519 --> 00:19:25,720 a road trip, is it a successful road trip? And 366 00:19:25,759 --> 00:19:28,440 I think that Tampa's gonna have a bitter taste in 367 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,160 their mouth after that shootout loss. They sure they put 368 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,000 up eight against the Devils, and they won a couple 369 00:19:33,039 --> 00:19:35,759 of games in a row, but I still think they're 370 00:19:35,759 --> 00:19:37,319 gonna be real motivated in this one. 371 00:19:38,799 --> 00:19:45,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think whether you've been on the road 372 00:19:45,279 --> 00:19:47,960 for five games, two games, whether it's the beginning of 373 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,839 the season or end of the season, that these teams 374 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,359 need any more motivation than facing each other on the ice. 375 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,720 They don't like each other. It is a rivalry like 376 00:19:58,839 --> 00:20:03,400 the Toronto Montreal one. How the Ottawa the Ottawa and 377 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,680 Montreal one has become now Calgary and Edmonton where the 378 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,640 teams just do not like each other and uh, and 379 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,400 we see power plays and hopefully we see power play goals. 380 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,839 So it wouldn't bother me if you like the over 381 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,680 in this one, because it's a it's at five and 382 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,039 a half as opposed to six, so and this very 383 00:20:22,039 --> 00:20:25,079 well could hit six at some point. You know, well, 384 00:20:25,599 --> 00:20:27,880 when we talk about like the end of the road trip, 385 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,079 and it's been a very good road trip for for Florida, 386 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,160 and we'll see how they ended tonight in Tampa Bay. 387 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:39,400 But you know, they return home, Andrew and uh, it's 388 00:20:39,519 --> 00:20:41,599 it's a little tougher at home. It's like when we 389 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,160 talk about wanting to fade them, and that's just talking 390 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,240 about like the rest of this week. They come home, 391 00:20:46,279 --> 00:20:47,720 they play the La Kings, who have been a very 392 00:20:47,759 --> 00:20:49,839 good team on the road. Then they get the Carolina 393 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,160 Panthers come into town. After that, they got the Blues 394 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,880 and they got Carolina and Tampa up next again. Uh, 395 00:20:58,079 --> 00:21:01,480 we're gonna see if if this Florida Panthers team is 396 00:21:01,759 --> 00:21:04,720 actually back in having won for their last five games. 397 00:21:05,039 --> 00:21:07,400 You know, they didn't look good in Colorado, but the 398 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,000 Colorado Avalanche make a lot of teams look bad and 399 00:21:11,079 --> 00:21:15,319 they have done so this season. So you know with that, 400 00:21:15,599 --> 00:21:17,240 you know, with that said, this is one of those 401 00:21:17,319 --> 00:21:21,000 ones where you know, that game. In that game for 402 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,160 Tampa Bay in New York on the weekend, they gave 403 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,200 it a go. They played well, but but you know, 404 00:21:27,319 --> 00:21:30,440 we talked about this the the Islanders played just a 405 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,000 little bit better to get that game into Ot to 406 00:21:34,079 --> 00:21:36,880 get a point out of it, and then winning in 407 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:41,839 a shootout, which is a skills competition. I'd never say 408 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,319 you're on the right side of the wrong side of 409 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,880 it bet whether wins or loses in a shootout, because 410 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,519 it's essentially it's a skills competition and could go either way. 411 00:21:51,279 --> 00:21:53,400 I would probably lay the dollar thirty five here on 412 00:21:53,599 --> 00:21:56,079 Tampa at home. They be Florida earlier this year three 413 00:21:56,079 --> 00:21:58,359 to one in Florida. I think it was at the 414 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,559 beginning of November. I could see them doing it doing 415 00:22:00,599 --> 00:22:02,960 it again here. I think they got a bad taste 416 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:07,200 in their mouth about how that road trip ended in 417 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,279 New York. They come home and it's been a long 418 00:22:09,319 --> 00:22:13,119 trip for Florida, a successful trip for them as well too. 419 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,200 But it wouldn't surprise me if this game went to 420 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,359 Ot Andrew as well too. So there's no Tailanders in 421 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,839 this game, but this one could see a little extra 422 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,279 time in it. So give me the I'm gonna lay 423 00:22:25,319 --> 00:22:27,880 the little bit of juice here. It's not very often 424 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,319 you see Tampa Bay at home at minus one thirty 425 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,799 five when they're having a good season. So with that said, 426 00:22:33,839 --> 00:22:36,599 I think that's they're giving Florida a lot more respect 427 00:22:37,519 --> 00:22:40,279 in this one. But I plus one eleven is not 428 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:41,480 enough for me on Florida. 429 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it, I get it. And you know what, 430 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,039 Tampa Bay's numbers overall have been pretty solid. So I 431 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,279 like what you said there, karm Like, it doesn't really 432 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,599 need motivation for these two teams to get together. You 433 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,759 don't need any type of reason for these two teams 434 00:22:55,799 --> 00:22:58,200 to get fired up to play each other. So I'm 435 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,440 with you, and I think that look at how Tampa 436 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,079 Bay was playing before they even got healthy, and now 437 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,400 you get Kucharov point Vassilevsky healthy, and the team's looking 438 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,240 pretty good. So and the thing is, you talk about 439 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,440 it being like a skills competition, So if they're one 440 00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:15,920 loss they've had recently is in a shootout, they're collecting 441 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,039 points every game and to your point with yeah, that 442 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,440 draw price is actually pretty good. This could be a 443 00:23:22,519 --> 00:23:25,839 good draw night for that. So if you can the 444 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,319 thing is I don't like to get any draw price 445 00:23:28,599 --> 00:23:31,400 under plus three hundred, and this one is plus three twenty, 446 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,640 So I'm with you on that one. I think it 447 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,480 could be a good one. Could be a good player 448 00:23:35,559 --> 00:23:38,119 prop game as well. I'm gonna be posting some player 449 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,559 props on Instagram and stuff later, but could be a 450 00:23:40,559 --> 00:23:41,640 good player prop game. 451 00:23:42,279 --> 00:23:47,319 Speaker 2: Yep, I think Panda post a little earlier. You need 452 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,200 to find a dance partner for a to go along 453 00:23:50,279 --> 00:23:53,599 with the third period over in the in this game. 454 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,400 And I completely see where he comes from because it's 455 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,480 one of the reasons why I like John Cooper is 456 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,279 if he's down a couple of goals, he pulls his 457 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,039 goalie with like six minutes left. He could be down 458 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,519 three goals and he'll pull his goalie with about seven 459 00:24:07,599 --> 00:24:11,480 minutes left to him. It does not matter whether they 460 00:24:11,599 --> 00:24:16,839 lose five to one or three to one. He's just 461 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,880 gonna pull his goalie try and give his team a 462 00:24:19,039 --> 00:24:21,680 chance to get back into the game. But you're paying 463 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,720 You're paying the viig on that over one and a 464 00:24:24,759 --> 00:24:27,119 half in the third period, So yes, you need to 465 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:32,720 find a dance partner for that one. Andrew, this game 466 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,759 is really interesting to me. This next one, the bat 467 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,440 a Canadian battle here Winnipeg. Same price as the game 468 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,920 we just talked about Winnipeg one thirty five at home 469 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,480 Ottawa plus one to eleven. The total sits here at six. 470 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,720 I want your thoughts on this one because this is 471 00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:54,839 going to be my pod play as well too, and 472 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,839 I'll explain why after I hear from you. 473 00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: Well, Carl, I think we got our answer to the 474 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:08,319 question of do the Winnipeg Jets heavily, heavily, heavily rely 475 00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:11,079 upon their goaltender. I think we got our answer to that. 476 00:25:11,599 --> 00:25:13,039 You know. That's one thing I will say is that 477 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,400 we got our answer when Hellabuck was out. And to 478 00:25:16,519 --> 00:25:19,519 be honest, it's no offense to Eric Comriy here. It's 479 00:25:19,559 --> 00:25:22,119 not as much of offense to Eric Comriy as it 480 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,160 really is to just how this team was playing in 481 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,440 front of him, and I'm sure he wasn't nearly as 482 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,640 good as Hella Buck is going to be. We got 483 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,960 our answer to how much they rely upon him. Now 484 00:25:33,039 --> 00:25:35,079 he comes back, and to your point, you talked about 485 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,440 it that it wasn't really confirmed, it comes back and 486 00:25:37,519 --> 00:25:40,480 gets the victory for them. Now this Senators team has 487 00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:43,480 lost for the last five games. I believe they're struggling 488 00:25:43,519 --> 00:25:46,880 a little bit. And we have seen the Jets, you know, 489 00:25:47,599 --> 00:25:50,039 kind of start to look better in their last couple 490 00:25:50,079 --> 00:25:53,000 of games, even when they didn't have Hellabuck. They've also 491 00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:55,920 been playing some tough opponents. I know the Oilers haven't 492 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,279 been great overall this year, but they've been turning it around. 493 00:25:58,799 --> 00:26:01,920 The Stars the Bruins have been better this year, and 494 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,039 then of course they beat the Capitals. This to me, Karen, 495 00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:07,240 when I look at this one, I'm gonna not get 496 00:26:07,279 --> 00:26:10,240 ahead of your your money line play. This to me 497 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,720 is an under to look at. You know, if you 498 00:26:12,759 --> 00:26:14,759 can find a six, that's nice that we you can 499 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,559 you get the push worst case scenario hopefully. But I 500 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,880 think Winnipeg having Hellibuck mat back and playing at home 501 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,599 here this goes back to old fashioned, old school Winnipeg hockey. 502 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,160 And I think that when you look at a team 503 00:26:30,319 --> 00:26:33,279 like Ottawa struggling the way they are, they have to 504 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,079 emphasize defense. And I know that overall this team's gotten healthier. 505 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,160 They've got stutslow, they've got Bathrooston, they've got get shucked, 506 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,480 They've got all their snipers out there. But when it 507 00:26:42,599 --> 00:26:44,359 ultimately comes down to it, when you get out of 508 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,400 a funk, you have to get out of a funk 509 00:26:46,519 --> 00:26:50,880 with defensive hockey, I believe, So I would not be 510 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,519 shocked to see Winnipeg drag Ottawa into that type of game. 511 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,599 So I'll go look to look towards the under here. 512 00:26:57,759 --> 00:27:01,039 But you know, Karen, I know you've got a side 513 00:27:01,079 --> 00:27:02,759 play in this one, but I'll just add that. Like 514 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,680 it seems like this team it's like a confidence thing. 515 00:27:06,759 --> 00:27:09,240 It's like, remember what you said, what was it last 516 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,039 Thursday when you said, you know what, if we have 517 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,559 the mumpshade Canadians goalie making his debut, I'm interested in 518 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,359 backing him because sometimes it gives you a spark, right, 519 00:27:19,759 --> 00:27:23,200 and they won. They played well defensively. Well, how good 520 00:27:23,559 --> 00:27:27,240 defensively did Winnipeg look in front of Connor Hellibuck? So 521 00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:29,319 maybe that made a little bit of their difference. So 522 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,680 I like the under in this one here? What about you? 523 00:27:31,799 --> 00:27:33,039 What's the side you've got for us? 524 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,839 Speaker 2: Yeah? I expect Connor Hellibuck to be in goal tonight 525 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,359 because in looking at Winnipeg schedule, it is spaced out. 526 00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:43,079 They play at home tonight and then they're on the 527 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,240 road I think for the next three games, and there's 528 00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:49,720 no back to backs in there, so he's going to 529 00:27:49,759 --> 00:27:52,400 get the majority of these at least these next four games. 530 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,000 But he should be starting tonight off of that effort 531 00:27:56,799 --> 00:27:59,960 because they need to make up some they need to 532 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,920 make up some points in the standings. But you know, 533 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,200 with that said, if there was ever a live dog 534 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,920 and one that seems to hang out in every game, 535 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,160 it is the Autowa Senators. And I'm gonna explain this 536 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,839 from an XG point of view. You look at their 537 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,599 last eight games, andrew the Autowa Senators, and they've gone 538 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,359 something like two and six the last eight games, but 539 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,039 they've never been out of any single game, and their 540 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,759 numbers are better than every single team that they've played. 541 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,400 They've generated over eight games, thirty point thirty point three 542 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,000 to three expected goals, which is three point seventy eight 543 00:28:39,079 --> 00:28:42,480 something like that, I believe, But they've only scored twenty 544 00:28:42,519 --> 00:28:46,960 four in those games, so they're underperforming by about six 545 00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:52,039 almost seven goals. They've allowed twenty four of XG, which 546 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,799 isn't good either, but it's not too bad. It's only 547 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,720 three per game or four per game. But they've allowed 548 00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:02,519 twenty eight goals. You look at the high danger chances, 549 00:29:02,799 --> 00:29:05,640 They've had a majority of the high danger chances. I 550 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,640 think they've only trailed in one game as far as 551 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,720 high danger chances shots on goal. They've let shots on goal. 552 00:29:10,799 --> 00:29:13,359 Even though that's not a very strong metric, you still 553 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,680 have to look at it. They're getting the opportunities to score, 554 00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:19,200 they can't seem to find the net at some point. 555 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,160 These are markers that can tell you a team is 556 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,039 on the cusp of getting a win. Now, it's how 557 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,240 fully invested you want to be on that team before 558 00:29:30,279 --> 00:29:33,039 they actually get the wins. But this is a team 559 00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:37,079 that I think is sitting on a win. And in 560 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,480 a game like this, we should see Linus all mark 561 00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:43,279 and it's the two goals should be all mark and 562 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,279 and hellabuck and I'll check those ones. I've done this. 563 00:29:47,559 --> 00:29:49,720 I actually believe the Autowa Centers have a very good 564 00:29:49,759 --> 00:29:51,759 shot of winning this game. I'm gonna take the plus 565 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:52,400 one to ten. 566 00:29:56,079 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: I will say karm with the fact that it's on 567 00:29:58,839 --> 00:30:01,000 home ice for the winning peg Jets. It is kind 568 00:30:01,039 --> 00:30:03,839 of a weird number. It's a bit of a weird number, 569 00:30:04,079 --> 00:30:08,119 you know. It kind of intrigues me. Yeah, it kind 570 00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:10,440 of treats me look towards that side as well. So 571 00:30:10,759 --> 00:30:13,440 uh yeah, and looking at the opening number, and and 572 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,720 and you know one thing that I've been looking at 573 00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:17,400 as well, And I want your thoughts on this. And 574 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,960 we all look at the market differently, and everybody that 575 00:30:20,079 --> 00:30:22,279 watches our show knows that I've been trying to look 576 00:30:22,319 --> 00:30:25,440 at things like this perspective more. Don't you find it 577 00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:27,920 fishy as well? Sometimes when you just don't see movement 578 00:30:28,039 --> 00:30:31,079 at all, Like the opening number is pretty much the 579 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,480 same as the current number. It's like nothing has moved, 580 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,559 nothing has changed. That seems a bit weird to me 581 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,759 as well, Like Winnipeg open one thirty three, consensus current 582 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:49,079 number at most shops you know, offshore, onshore, domestic, whatever 583 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,680 it is, it's Whynus one thirty Like it's the same 584 00:30:52,839 --> 00:30:55,680 number that we pretty much saw as the opener, which 585 00:30:55,799 --> 00:30:58,160 kind of tells us something a little bit here. I 586 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,799 wish yeah, gohe you. 587 00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 2: Know, And the one thing I wanted to add. So 588 00:31:03,079 --> 00:31:05,559 you look at it, and I always think it's it's 589 00:31:05,599 --> 00:31:09,559 a good marker. You have to, you know, you have 590 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,319 to look at Sometimes injuries come into it, but sometimes 591 00:31:12,359 --> 00:31:16,200 you run into a goalie who is super hot. You 592 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,640 look at the Sins their last game, which was played 593 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,680 on Saturday. They lose three to two to the Minnesota Wild. 594 00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:26,000 The x G and then number. The x G in 595 00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:28,799 that game was five point five eight goals for the 596 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,599 Ottawa Senators two point nine to three for the Wild. 597 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,240 The Wild did what they were supposed to do. They 598 00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:37,759 generated three three expected goals. They scored three expected goals. 599 00:31:37,799 --> 00:31:41,400 Ottawa generate five and a half goals, only scored two. 600 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:47,839 Wallstead was the goalie in that one, stopping thirty six 601 00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:53,079 story thirty four of thirty six shots on goal. So 602 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,519 it's you know, it's it's something you have to look at. 603 00:31:55,599 --> 00:31:57,440 You know, the game prior to that, they they ran 604 00:31:57,519 --> 00:32:00,319 into I think it was, but they did win that 605 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,319 game six to three. They ran into Jet Greeves. You 606 00:32:03,359 --> 00:32:05,720 know the game before that, you know, a one goal 607 00:32:05,839 --> 00:32:09,079 lost to the New Jersey Devils. You run into a 608 00:32:09,119 --> 00:32:11,279 goalie like Mark Strum and then you run into Bennington, 609 00:32:11,319 --> 00:32:14,640 and you run into Igor Schusterkin. So it's an over 610 00:32:14,839 --> 00:32:18,400 and over again. You run into Jake Ottinger of the Stars. 611 00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:20,400 It's an over and over thing. But the thing is 612 00:32:21,079 --> 00:32:23,680 they're not getting an easy goalie tonight because it's Connor Hellibuck. 613 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,039 But let's see how his knee is, you know, forty 614 00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:30,839 eight hours later, and you know, if they're as hyped 615 00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:34,400 on his return, because at the end of the day, 616 00:32:35,119 --> 00:32:37,839 all those things I rattled off were all still losses, 617 00:32:38,359 --> 00:32:41,400 with the exception of Columbus for the Ottawa Senators. So 618 00:32:42,279 --> 00:32:44,839 you have to you have to look at it. And 619 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,519 I get it. There's guys who are like, I don't 620 00:32:46,519 --> 00:32:48,680 want to play any money on Ottawa, but I get it. 621 00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:51,039 You can bet favorites till you're blue in the face. 622 00:32:51,359 --> 00:32:53,839 You got to take some dogs, and normally, if I'm 623 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,759 going to take a dog, it's because the analytics are 624 00:32:56,839 --> 00:33:01,079 pointing me in that direction. So that's that's my point 625 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,440 to this one. We'll well, you know, we'll see what happens. 626 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,480 This turns out for nothing Winnipeg at the end of 627 00:33:06,519 --> 00:33:10,359 the game, then so be it. But this is how 628 00:33:10,359 --> 00:33:12,160 it goes. We're going to try and keep the pod going. 629 00:33:12,519 --> 00:33:14,960 We had a Friday Winter with the pod. Saturday, we 630 00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:18,640 lose in UH the pod play posted one on on Twitter. 631 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,359 We lose it in UH the skills competition, the shootout, 632 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,279 but we're right back at it and we'll see if 633 00:33:26,319 --> 00:33:28,000 we can get back on the board here with the 634 00:33:28,119 --> 00:33:29,440 Autawa Senators. 635 00:33:30,599 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: Well, Carl, I mean you've you've hit some underdogs, you've 636 00:33:33,079 --> 00:33:35,759 hit some some totals like we've you know, you're mixing 637 00:33:35,799 --> 00:33:37,880 it up and obviously you've built the bank roll pretty well. 638 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,880 I mean you've donated to charity and then restarted the 639 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,720 bank roll again and you're doing pretty well with it. 640 00:33:42,839 --> 00:33:46,359 So hey, how does three two work for you? For 641 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,519 the Ottawa Senators? Can we catch that? Is that? Okay? 642 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,920 No empty net goal? I wouldn't mind that. I wouldn't 643 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:52,200 mind that. 644 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,279 Speaker 2: I'm good with it. Should be a good game. Listen, 645 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,400 No Winnipeg. I understand why people want to play Winnipeg, 646 00:33:57,559 --> 00:34:01,079 you know, I mean Connor hollibook back. They need to 647 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,799 put some wins together. But you can't always blame the 648 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,840 goaltending because even with Comery and I think it was 649 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,320 Millick in goal, they were losing some games five to one. 650 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,800 Where was the scoring in those games? Yeah, you've got 651 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,679 a score to support your goalie as well too. If 652 00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:25,119 you're supposed to be a very good defensive team, it 653 00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:27,119 doesn't matter who your goalie is you should be able 654 00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:29,119 to play defense. But we'll see at the end of 655 00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:31,159 the end. I'm not trying to sell anyone on the 656 00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:33,639 Ottawa Senators, but I'm letting you know who I'm playing. 657 00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:37,480 That's the whole idea of the pod. With that said, Andrew, 658 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,840 your favorite angle? Are you putting it in play tonight? 659 00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:46,960 The Dallas Stars minus what are they here? Minus one 660 00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:50,440 thirty three? The line is dropped this morning on this one. 661 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,159 The Kings plus one oh nine total sits here five 662 00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:56,400 and a half? Where are you going, mister mckinnis with 663 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:56,840 this one? 664 00:34:58,079 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: See the best part about this? Kr. I realized this 665 00:35:01,119 --> 00:35:05,239 a little while ago after some tough losses. I guess 666 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,320 with this, you only want to play this angle if 667 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,519 it's a good team, Like I am so done ever 668 00:35:13,679 --> 00:35:16,719 playing this off of shutout angle, if it's not a 669 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,559 good team that you're playing it with. And I'm sure 670 00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:23,239 you feel me with this, like I don't want to 671 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,679 be looking at a bad team off a loss or 672 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,280 a bad team off a shutout. But if it is 673 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,400 a team that you can trust and a team that's 674 00:35:33,559 --> 00:35:36,559 offense you can trust, then you look towards the first 675 00:35:36,639 --> 00:35:40,280 period over and you know this team. They scored two 676 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,039 goals against the Wild, and I was kind of shocked, 677 00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:45,840 like I backed the Wild in that one and a 678 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,000 good plus price, and then I was like, this is 679 00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:51,199 kind of a good spot for Florida here. I'll take Florida. 680 00:35:51,559 --> 00:35:54,559 So back to back tough games. So even though the 681 00:35:54,639 --> 00:35:58,159 Stars got two against the Wild, we can still kind 682 00:35:58,199 --> 00:36:01,800 of say that it was a not so great game 683 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,800 for them either against the Minnesota Wild when it comes 684 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,440 to their offense. So, look, these teams play eighty two games. 685 00:36:09,199 --> 00:36:12,360 These teams, they're not gonna have the same level of 686 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,000 motivation every single time. And when I look at the Kings, 687 00:36:16,679 --> 00:36:19,360 they're gonna be looking for some offense as well, because 688 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,880 they put up just one goal over the weekend against 689 00:36:23,079 --> 00:36:25,559 the Calby Flames. Now, one thing interesting about this team 690 00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:29,360 is they haven't really been that battle tested lately. The 691 00:36:29,559 --> 00:36:33,800 La Kings playing some tough teams. They played the Blackhawks, Car, 692 00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:39,480 they played the Mammoth, the Kraken, and the Flames. Let's 693 00:36:39,519 --> 00:36:43,599 be honest here, those four teams are nowhere close to 694 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,199 what the Dallas Stars bring to the table. So whether 695 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,840 you're looking towards the Stars, whether you're looking towards the 696 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,760 over or the first period over or some type of 697 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,719 play on the Dallas Stars early on in the game. 698 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,639 I feel like all of these things set up very 699 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,639 very well. And now you know, the funny thing is, 700 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,840 though you've got that what was it the mom's trip 701 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:07,840 right for the Stars or for the Kings, And like 702 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,920 the only game that they really looked good in was 703 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,679 the game against the Flames and they only scored one goal, 704 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,599 so not much, not much to really be happy about, 705 00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:19,239 and that was the game back at home. So I 706 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,320 think the first period over one and a half sets 707 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,920 up very well. And I will just tell you guys this, 708 00:37:24,199 --> 00:37:27,440 This is not an automatic angle for me anymore. This 709 00:37:27,679 --> 00:37:31,440 is only circumstantial for each team and the spot that 710 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,440 they're in. And I think today, karm it is a 711 00:37:33,519 --> 00:37:37,119 good day for it. So because I think that Dallas 712 00:37:37,199 --> 00:37:39,320 isn't just coming off one bad game, and they're coming 713 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,239 off like two bad games, I'd say. 714 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Andrew, that was a bad one. It was a 715 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,280 bad one. Obviously I watched it because I wanted to 716 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,400 see six goals in that one, but as flat as 717 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,559 they were, and anyone who watched the game, whether you're 718 00:37:56,599 --> 00:37:59,199 a Stars fan, whether you're a Panthers fan or you 719 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,679 just had action on the game. They were flat. Jamie 720 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:09,159 Benn got into a fight where he absolutely pummeled the 721 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,440 guy from Florida in that game, and normally you would 722 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,280 think the fans go crazy, the benches are smacking their 723 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,199 sticks and kind of what happened, and you think there's 724 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,679 going to be a five to seven minute thing where 725 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:27,440 the Dallas stars wake up, and you know what, none 726 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,239 of that. They looked just as flat after the Jamie 727 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,599 Ben fight as they did before the Jamie Ben fight. 728 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,519 And that's what tells you when a team is in 729 00:38:38,639 --> 00:38:43,280 serious trouble in a game in which not even your 730 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,400 main man going out there getting into a fight to 731 00:38:46,559 --> 00:38:49,880 stir up the team and winning it convincingly. He just 732 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,920 didn't do the you know when they do the belt 733 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,679 thing or whatever after winning the fight. It was I 734 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,360 don't get it. So you have to figure that they 735 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,719 bounce back in this spot here. The only kind of 736 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,360 troubling thing, Andrew is, you know, in looking at the 737 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,840 prices at odds Logic and on the wager Talk site, 738 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,719 and you look at these prices, it seems to there 739 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,480 seems to have been some La Kings money coming in 740 00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:17,159 on this game. You know Kings have been involved in 741 00:39:17,519 --> 00:39:20,840 back to back obviously OT games for them against the 742 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,079 Calgary Flames against the Seattle Kraken, So it is one 743 00:39:25,079 --> 00:39:27,800 of those ones where and I think the only meeting 744 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,000 this year was the La Kings winning in Dallas back 745 00:39:31,079 --> 00:39:35,000 on the twenty third of October three to two. If 746 00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:36,639 there was one, Andrew, and I don't know if you 747 00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:38,400 can see the price on this one. If there was 748 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,320 a game in which I would say, of all the games, 749 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,760 tonight has a chance the best chance of going into overtime, 750 00:39:46,159 --> 00:39:50,960 it is this one here between these two teams. What 751 00:39:51,199 --> 00:39:53,480 I think is going to be a low scoring game. 752 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,840 I could see a two to two game that goes 753 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,639 to overtime and ends three to three to two. 754 00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: Trying to find it here for your car, find it, man, 755 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:03,519 you can do it. 756 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 2: And in the meantime, Oh Relic, I'm lucky. I'm loving 757 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,800 Habs Relic three two Dallas in ot, he says, God 758 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:16,960 bless you Habs Relic. Kyle, welcome to the Chat Titans, 759 00:40:17,079 --> 00:40:19,920 You're always there and Titans Titans, thanks for tuning in 760 00:40:20,039 --> 00:40:23,840 to End Zone Live yesterday. It was a phenomenal fun 761 00:40:24,119 --> 00:40:26,679 show where we sweat the games live a bunch of 762 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:31,440 us from one o'clock to four o'clock. I actually give 763 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:32,880 out a couple winners on that. When I took the 764 00:40:33,559 --> 00:40:36,920 Bills game in game, the over in that game fifty one. 765 00:40:37,039 --> 00:40:38,920 That one one easy. And I took the Josh Allen 766 00:40:39,079 --> 00:40:42,280 over one hundred and eighty two passing yards at halftime, 767 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,840 and that one hit quite easily. And I'm going to 768 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:51,320 piss off all of you new Englanders. Sorry, the Bills 769 00:40:51,639 --> 00:40:56,400 are a better team. So that's just the way we 770 00:40:56,559 --> 00:41:00,599 spotted you guys. We spotted them twenty one points. Yeah, 771 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:05,000 pizza Pizza boy, Dave Partnoy, God, bless the guy. He's 772 00:41:05,079 --> 00:41:08,559 he's a he's a super nice guy. Does a ton 773 00:41:08,599 --> 00:41:12,280 of charitable stuff, which I think is fantastic because I'm 774 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,960 big on that. But he was celebrating twenty one nothing. 775 00:41:16,039 --> 00:41:20,079 He's throwing out videos and those are the worst things 776 00:41:20,119 --> 00:41:27,400 anyone who celebrates early. Oh boy, here he goes golden mush. 777 00:41:28,159 --> 00:41:30,000 It is the mush it is. 778 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. Look I'm with you, titanst let carm roll on 779 00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:35,639 about his Bill Carmen, do you think in a playoff 780 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,679 game you can go down twenty one nothing? I don't 781 00:41:38,679 --> 00:41:40,519 think in a playoff game that's gonna win. 782 00:41:40,599 --> 00:41:44,039 Speaker 2: I know that Kansas City Chiefs in the season in 783 00:41:44,039 --> 00:41:45,800 which they won the Super Bowl, I'm not sure if 784 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,840 it was the first Super Bowl, second Super Bowl, they 785 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,559 were down by fourteen points I believe three times in 786 00:41:50,599 --> 00:41:52,840 the playoffs and came back and won each one of 787 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:53,400 those games. 788 00:41:54,199 --> 00:41:56,039 Speaker 1: So look at this. 789 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 2: Fourteen is not twenty one appearance. 790 00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 1: Calls bad call ah. 791 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,760 Speaker 2: Here we go the old referee thing. Listen, first of all. 792 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:11,639 First of all, when it's a simultaneous catch, the ball 793 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,239 goes to the offense number one and number two. He 794 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,239 pushed the Bills receiver, which is past interference, and he 795 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:25,119 still caught it. But we talked about refereeing guys. When 796 00:42:25,159 --> 00:42:29,920 you got people that are in their sixties refereeing games. 797 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:35,079 The NFL a billion dollar industry, you would think they 798 00:42:35,159 --> 00:42:40,519 would just have referees who don't have other jobs. You 799 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,679 pay them a shitload of money to get the games right, 800 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,440 be accountable for what they're doing on the field. And 801 00:42:48,119 --> 00:42:51,639 it's it's kind of like in soccer. If you're not good, 802 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,719 you get relegated, and if you are good, you continue 803 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,599 to do the marquee games. But With that said, Andrew 804 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:05,719 referees or only our thoughts on referees change with the 805 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:11,159 results of the game. When we win, the refereeing was fantastic. 806 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,639 When we lose, the refereeing was horrible. So it is 807 00:43:15,559 --> 00:43:20,960 like that. It's like that with sports petters, Uh, I 808 00:43:21,079 --> 00:43:23,000 give you the three plays on today's show. If they 809 00:43:23,079 --> 00:43:26,760 win tomorrow, I log in and calm your fantastic last night, 810 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,880 I go, oh, in three on today's show, people log 811 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,639 in and like you suck man. So it goes you 812 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,039 know how it's life in general. Come on, man, you know, 813 00:43:38,159 --> 00:43:39,000 we appreciate the. 814 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,639 Speaker 1: People that are kind, because there's a lot of people 815 00:43:40,679 --> 00:43:43,719 that comment good things as well. But it's like when 816 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,480 you go and you're trying to like you're like a 817 00:43:45,519 --> 00:43:47,960 way on vacation and you look at reviews for certain 818 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,440 restaurants or places, because think about it, more people are 819 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,280 going to do reviews when they're angry than when they're excited, Like, oh, 820 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,079 if I had enjoyed this meal, you're gonna just go 821 00:43:57,199 --> 00:43:58,679 home and be happy about it. If you didn't like 822 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,280 your meal, then people go on complaining about the meal 823 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,280 on these apps and stuff. That's what I feel bad 824 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,920 for restaurants because people that liked what they had, they 825 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,920 don't go on and come and write a good review. 826 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,039 But if they didn't like what they had, then they 827 00:44:12,159 --> 00:44:15,599 go on and write a bad review. So yeah, guys, 828 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,920 we're we're not. Like I'll tell you, like straight up. 829 00:44:19,039 --> 00:44:22,199 I was on TikTok last night, doom scrolling as I 830 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,880 always do, and there was this guy, this guy selling picks. 831 00:44:26,679 --> 00:44:28,559 He literally was talking about how he was on like 832 00:44:28,639 --> 00:44:32,000 a twenty three and two run, like he's up this 833 00:44:32,159 --> 00:44:34,400 many units in hockey, this many units and if he 834 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,159 had like, no joke, fifteen hundred live viewers on TikTok. 835 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,079 That's the shit that pisses me off because it's like, 836 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,679 are you seriously gonna say that you're like twenty four 837 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,840 and two, you're up like one hundred and fifty five 838 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,440 units in NFL, Like people are just saying whatever they 839 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,920 want to say and hoping people believe it. Like this 840 00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:55,719 is why me and you are here every day. We're 841 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,679 just giving other picks, having a good time and hopefully 842 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,880 cash and tickets. I'll tell you what, I've got, just 843 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,559 two picks. I wanted to mention it for the same 844 00:45:02,599 --> 00:45:06,280 game parlay. These are not two guys on the same team. 845 00:45:06,559 --> 00:45:09,880 This is a one pick from one guy on each team. 846 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,559 We've got Jake Gensel to get a point, Brad Marsha 847 00:45:12,639 --> 00:45:15,599 and to get a point. And these numbers keep moving around. 848 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,360 Literally during the showcarm the number has changed. I'm not 849 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,480 even joking, like three or four times. It keeps on 850 00:45:20,599 --> 00:45:25,960 saying closed, closed, closed on DraftKings Fan duel wherever plus 851 00:45:26,079 --> 00:45:30,760 one for Marsha on point and Genseil point Florida Panthers 852 00:45:31,039 --> 00:45:34,239 against the Tampa Bay Lightning. So those are two guys 853 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,599 that I like here. Hopefully we can catch the tickets. 854 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 2: Andrew Cash some tickets. So I'm passing on soccer today, 855 00:45:43,079 --> 00:45:47,239 but I will let you guys know that I'm gonna 856 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,320 be watching a game today and I've got I'm gonna 857 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,760 play this game, but it's not strong enough to release 858 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,960 the clients. But I'm gonna mention it here because I 859 00:45:55,039 --> 00:45:57,440 did mention the man City one when they were plus 860 00:45:57,519 --> 00:46:00,400 one twenty five against Real Madrid in Real Made for 861 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,440 Champions League, and I just thought it was a good 862 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,480 setup for them in that game. Two plays up in 863 00:46:07,519 --> 00:46:09,519 the NHL, which you can get, we still have that. 864 00:46:09,639 --> 00:46:11,440 I think we still have that hat trick deal going on, 865 00:46:11,519 --> 00:46:16,960 which is a great one as well too. Andrew. This 866 00:46:17,159 --> 00:46:20,679 one makes absolutely no sense in what I'm about to 867 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,519 tell you, guys, but I'm going to play it. I 868 00:46:22,599 --> 00:46:27,360 am taking Bournemouth today plus three oh seven. Rob Brailey 869 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,639 is probably watching this show. He is a huge Man 870 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:34,559 United fan. Listen. This team isn't in the greatest of 871 00:46:34,599 --> 00:46:38,400 the form, but the last two Decembers they have gone 872 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,559 to Old Trafford and not been in great form and 873 00:46:42,679 --> 00:46:46,679 come away with three nil victories in both games. At 874 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,840 the very least, I think this is one of those 875 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,599 games where you could bet both teams to score in 876 00:46:50,679 --> 00:46:55,400 over two and a half. But I'm just gonna instead 877 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,159 of sweatying both team scoring, I'm gonna take the dog 878 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,719 here plus three oh seven. And I might just add 879 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,800 it to a couple NHL dogs tonight as well too 880 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,039 and see if we can hit a big ticket. But 881 00:47:09,639 --> 00:47:12,639 it's a game in which man United should win. But 882 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,360 I'm telling you the last two seasons I've watched this 883 00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:21,760 team lose in December to the same team at Old 884 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,239 Trafford by three nail score lines. Let's see it happen again. 885 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:29,239 Andrew how's that for a free soccer play only if 886 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:29,719 it wins. 887 00:47:31,559 --> 00:47:36,199 Speaker 1: Mckinnis, Hey, you cashed Men City for us last week, 888 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,199 and I'll tell you what I was like, Come on, 889 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,639 carm are you serious? They went down one mill and 890 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,159 then they scored two quick goals, So gotta love that. 891 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,880 Gotta love that, all right, man, We gotta wrap up 892 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,400 the show here. So I've got just one side and 893 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,519 one total for tonight. No best bet for me in 894 00:47:53,639 --> 00:47:56,719 NFL player props, although the player props continue to do 895 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,360 very well. Number one in NFL player props at the 896 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,960 website twenty units. But it's a great time. And I'll 897 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,440 tell you what, guys, these hockey packages. Now that I'm 898 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,159 doing college hockey, you got the World Juniors coming up 899 00:48:10,119 --> 00:48:13,519 starting Boxing Day, all kinds of hockey content going to 900 00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:16,960 be out. It's important to grab all access hockey passes 901 00:48:17,039 --> 00:48:19,880 as well. At wager Talk. Let's try and set a 902 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,360 goal for today. If you guys can on YouTube, we're 903 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,960 gonna go for one hundred and forty five likes, one hundred, 904 00:48:28,599 --> 00:48:32,239 not even any less, not anymore, hopefully more, one hundred 905 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,119 and forty five likes. Let's see if you guys can 906 00:48:34,159 --> 00:48:36,760 do it for us on YouTube carim rapping. I'd like 907 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:37,840 one cloding thoughts. 908 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,559 Speaker 2: I would like one hundred and forty eight likes because 909 00:48:40,639 --> 00:48:44,280 forty eight is one of my favorite numbers. Okay, I 910 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:48,280 don't know why it's one of my favorite numbers, but yeah, 911 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,159 let's do it. Guys. Listen. We appreciate you guys tuning 912 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,760 in as always. I know a bunch of you guys 913 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,719 are just just massively missing the press. He returns on 914 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:04,760 Thursday from his ski trip, but tomorrow don Buster and 915 00:49:05,039 --> 00:49:10,599 Brian Leonard in the guest chairs for you guys, and 916 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,440 a huge slate of NHL action as well too. Don't 917 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:19,039 forget it's a customer appreciation day tomorrow and eight pm 918 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,400 tonight is when a lot of the packages go live 919 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,800 once the football game has started in the NFL, so 920 00:49:25,119 --> 00:49:28,000 I will have some plays up for you guys if 921 00:49:28,039 --> 00:49:31,440 you want to grab them early and beat the line 922 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,000 moves for myself and Andrew. Thank you guys for all 923 00:49:35,039 --> 00:49:37,000 of the messages in our chat. We wish you the 924 00:49:37,039 --> 00:49:38,800 best of luck tonight and we'll see you tomorrow morning 925 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,440 eleven am on wager Talk TV