WEBVTT 1 00:00:13.679 --> 00:00:16.879 Hey, everybody, it's me. It's Sephanie Wilder Taylor, It's Rose 2 00:00:16.920 --> 00:00:19.519 Pricks and I'm here with Cecily Nobler. 3 00:00:20.320 --> 00:00:20.480 Hi. 4 00:00:21.160 --> 00:00:25.440 Hi, Hi. You know what we were like, listen, we 5 00:00:25.600 --> 00:00:28.320 got to get back to our roots. And I don't 6 00:00:28.399 --> 00:00:31.399 mean our real hair color or gray. I'm talking. We're 7 00:00:31.440 --> 00:00:34.920 not doing that at all. Okay, don't get it twisted. 8 00:00:35.280 --> 00:00:39.200 But we were originally talking a lot of reality stuff 9 00:00:39.479 --> 00:00:42.159 and we've been a little bit away from that. But 10 00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:44.200 so we're gonna just do We're going to tell you 11 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:47.399 some Bachelor stories, like what's going on some of these people? 12 00:00:49.200 --> 00:00:51.320 Yeah, like kind of aware are they now with the Bachelor? 13 00:00:51.359 --> 00:00:54.119 Because and it's been hard for us too, because usually 14 00:00:54.119 --> 00:00:56.359 we've had a lot of Bachelor shows to cover, which 15 00:00:56.399 --> 00:00:59.520 is what this show started as. And we're not forgetting 16 00:00:59.520 --> 00:01:01.399 about that. There's stuff going to come back, and we 17 00:01:01.439 --> 00:01:04.200 will cover all that when it happens, but we want 18 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:06.159 to have at least one day a week at least 19 00:01:06.200 --> 00:01:10.040 where we talk about like our old Bravo shows, especially Bachelor, 20 00:01:10.120 --> 00:01:12.560 and just like what there are just now. 21 00:01:12.400 --> 00:01:15.920 Yeah, or just what are some of the stories from 22 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:19.840 around the way about these people? Now. The first thing 23 00:01:20.040 --> 00:01:23.439 is just this is the lightest story in the whole world. 24 00:01:23.480 --> 00:01:25.359 And you can weigh in if you have some other 25 00:01:25.519 --> 00:01:28.680 things to say about the Valley. But I have just 26 00:01:28.719 --> 00:01:31.079 been really wanting to talk about this for so long, 27 00:01:32.239 --> 00:01:34.359 and now here we are, now I have my opportunity, 28 00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:38.439 and it's that This was a post on Reddit that 29 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:41.200 Janet felt the need to clear things up about the 30 00:01:41.280 --> 00:01:44.640 Chili's lunch they had. So the cast of the Valley 31 00:01:44.680 --> 00:01:46.079 went to eat at Chili's and. 32 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:46.799 I watched that. 33 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:50.879 I was so excited to tell Cecily that, like the 34 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:55.519 lore of the Chilies is that it is walking distance 35 00:01:55.560 --> 00:01:59.120 from my house. Okay, not giving you my address, but 36 00:01:59.159 --> 00:02:01.040 you're gonna have to trust me on this, but like 37 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:05.400 that's our Chili's. That is my kids love that chili 38 00:02:05.519 --> 00:02:08.840 so much that when the fires were happening, we all 39 00:02:08.879 --> 00:02:10.919 had this. It wasn't really a joke. It was kind 40 00:02:10.919 --> 00:02:13.319 of serious because you know how there were the different 41 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:20.680 evacuation zones. Yeah, so that Chili's was just like the 42 00:02:21.319 --> 00:02:26.800 line for having to evacuate was right behind Chili's, like 43 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:29.960 on Chili's, So we were all like on a Chili's 44 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:32.360 watch to make sure our chilies didn't get burned down. 45 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:35.879 Because that would have been a much bigger tragedy, I mean, awful. 46 00:02:35.960 --> 00:02:38.039 But at the same time, that chili seems like a 47 00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:41.240 pretty easy place to just recreate. They've got like a 48 00:02:41.280 --> 00:02:43.080 pretty good game plan on that, they have a lot 49 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:44.560 of money behind it. I'm just going to tell you 50 00:02:44.639 --> 00:02:47.199 right now, you know, yeah, and they just kind of 51 00:02:47.240 --> 00:02:48.039 it's pretty easy. 52 00:02:48.400 --> 00:02:50.680 But apparently a lot of famous people kind of like 53 00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:55.400 you know, maybe reality people love that Chili's. So Janet said, 54 00:02:55.759 --> 00:02:58.439 I keep seeing comments that our Chili's Lunch on the 55 00:02:58.520 --> 00:03:01.479 Valley was a paid advertise, and I figured it was 56 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:05.439 obvious by Zach literally shitting his pants there that Chili's 57 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:10.039 did not pay for this endorsement. Laffy face emoji. Also, 58 00:03:10.080 --> 00:03:12.159 if you follow any of us on socials, you know 59 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:15.879 many of us are regulars at the Ensino Chilis. And 60 00:03:15.919 --> 00:03:19.240 I was like, yes girl, and then she wrote, welso, 61 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:22.800 Also she wrote, and I just think this is funny. 62 00:03:22.840 --> 00:03:24.960 She wrote, Zach shitting his pants had nothing to do 63 00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:27.360 with the Triple Dippers or any of the delicious food 64 00:03:27.400 --> 00:03:30.599 at Chili's. He was on antibiotics for his head injury 65 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:33.560 that apparently led him to have misleading farts. 66 00:03:34.520 --> 00:03:37.000 He went on a he had a birthday trip. He 67 00:03:37.080 --> 00:03:40.360 had a triple birthday trip with him Danny, who was 68 00:03:40.400 --> 00:03:43.159 a fucking nightmare in Tom Schwartz. They went to Mexico. 69 00:03:43.479 --> 00:03:45.199 They were on a boat or no, they were on 70 00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:48.000 like a party bus, huh. And he was standing up. 71 00:03:48.120 --> 00:03:49.759 Zach was standing up in a way he wasn't supposed 72 00:03:49.759 --> 00:03:51.919 to on the party bus and he hit something hit 73 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:54.000 him like a you know, something just hit him in 74 00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:55.759 the head really bad. He had to go to the hospital. 75 00:03:56.080 --> 00:03:58.680 They put this crazy, weird bandage on him. He kept 76 00:03:58.759 --> 00:04:01.960 drinking by the way, came back straight to the club 77 00:04:01.960 --> 00:04:03.840 and they were all drunk the whole time. But yes, 78 00:04:03.919 --> 00:04:06.120 he was put on antibiotics. And they hadn't even started 79 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:08.560 eating yet at Chili's when he shited his pants. 80 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:10.479 That did all happen. It was weird. 81 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:13.360 I mean, did he leave, Yeah, He's like, I have to. 82 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:15.599 He was starting to fight with Janet for some reason. 83 00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:17.480 He was just picking a fire and I was picking 84 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:19.480 a fight with Brittany and she's like, what is your problem? 85 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:21.120 He was I to go to the bathroom and they 86 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:23.439 were like, okay, buddy, you know, they're just not He's 87 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:24.920 trying to get out of it, and then he goes 88 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:26.839 and then he left his He tried to take his 89 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:28.800 mic off because you can hear the mic, you know, 90 00:04:28.839 --> 00:04:32.120 going like like that. You know you hear him, and 91 00:04:32.160 --> 00:04:35.399 then he's like, uh, fuck you just hear him like 92 00:04:35.480 --> 00:04:38.560 oh no, And so he accidentally shit his pants, and 93 00:04:38.600 --> 00:04:40.480 then he had to throw you hear him throwing away 94 00:04:40.519 --> 00:04:42.240 his pant like his underwear. 95 00:04:42.279 --> 00:04:44.399 He keeps his jeans. He washes everything he can, and 96 00:04:44.439 --> 00:04:45.199 then comes back. 97 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:47.680 Oh no, sorry, I ship my. 98 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:49.920 Parents and then they all kind of laugh and move 99 00:04:49.959 --> 00:04:51.279 on with their dumb fight. 100 00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:54.480 Oh my god, so he came back. I would have left. 101 00:04:54.879 --> 00:04:57.360 I would have left because I don't wouldn't feel very clean. 102 00:04:58.040 --> 00:05:00.199 I don't know how you get off. Yeah, I mean 103 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:03.639 because I guess it didn't get in the pants or whatever. 104 00:05:03.680 --> 00:05:05.600 I guess he like went to go to the bathroom 105 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:07.519 but somehow didn't quite make it, and then just went 106 00:05:07.560 --> 00:05:10.079 into the underwear, and then he threw away the underwear. 107 00:05:10.519 --> 00:05:13.199 I was not expecting to discuss this, but it is 108 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:16.120 what happened. I have watched every second of the valley, 109 00:05:16.160 --> 00:05:19.279 and I'm it got worse as it went along. I 110 00:05:19.319 --> 00:05:20.600 was gonna say, I really thought it was going to 111 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:22.120 be a good season and then it's not. 112 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:25.439 It's just not. 113 00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:29.079 And I love Janet and I'm standing by it. And 114 00:05:29.120 --> 00:05:31.680 she's the only one I know you She's the one 115 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:34.480 we'd be friends with. I'm telling you you would like Janet. 116 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:37.959 Yeah. Probably at this point, I've probably turned around on her. 117 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:40.040 Wall was not really that bad either. 118 00:05:40.079 --> 00:05:41.759 I don't think i'd want to hang with Lalla because 119 00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:44.120 she just loves herself too much. But I I could 120 00:05:44.199 --> 00:05:48.040 see her being like voice of reason sort of. But 121 00:05:48.120 --> 00:05:50.600 she also still claps at you when she's mad, right 122 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:53.120 with big nails, with big nails and points her finger 123 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:53.399 at you. 124 00:05:53.879 --> 00:05:57.360 Yeah, she's a lot. Yeah, Schwartz is annoying as fuck. 125 00:05:57.920 --> 00:06:01.800 Okay, So also just want to say just just related 126 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:04.519 to that that I just wanted to remind people if 127 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:07.600 you don't know this, but also the Buca de Beppo 128 00:06:07.920 --> 00:06:11.959 where derte restyled the room to turn it into like 129 00:06:12.439 --> 00:06:17.800 a place in but in Italy. Yes, it is also 130 00:06:17.920 --> 00:06:20.279 walking distance from my house. It's a little bit of 131 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:24.920 a different direction. They're both on Venture Boulevard. That Chili's 132 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:27.839 and the Buka de Beeppo. They're about like a half 133 00:06:27.879 --> 00:06:30.040 a mile from each other, but go, we have to 134 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:32.680 go there. Which one's closer to me? Which one's closer 135 00:06:32.680 --> 00:06:37.160 to Laurel Canyon? I guess the Chili's, but it's but 136 00:06:37.199 --> 00:06:39.959 they're both. It's both the same, they're both. They're blocks 137 00:06:39.959 --> 00:06:42.959 away from each other. You can walk. They're in Encino, Yes, 138 00:06:43.879 --> 00:06:47.040 they're They're in Encino. They're and I'm just I'm just thrilled. 139 00:06:47.120 --> 00:06:50.680 I'm just thrilled, you guys. Okay, I have another little 140 00:06:50.720 --> 00:06:55.160 thing that is kind of not it's not really like 141 00:06:57.319 --> 00:07:00.000 printed to anything. No, it's not. It's not. No, it's 142 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:02.680 but it has nothing to do with people that we 143 00:07:02.759 --> 00:07:05.319 really care that much about. But I found it interesting 144 00:07:05.360 --> 00:07:08.120 and I think you will too. But from Real Housewives 145 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:12.639 of Orange County Vicky's kids, so Michael is her son, 146 00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:15.160 who I think is a little bit on the current season. 147 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:17.000 I haven't. 148 00:07:17.079 --> 00:07:19.079 I haven't really, I've only kind of dipped in it out. 149 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:21.360 I've realized I had peacock. I didn't even know that 150 00:07:21.439 --> 00:07:24.720 I have fucking peacock. So I can watch it without commrshalls, 151 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:26.600 uh huh. Doing in love when you do that and 152 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:28.759 you just are watching all the stupid shit and you're like, oh, 153 00:07:28.759 --> 00:07:32.399 I have this app it's like already paid for. So 154 00:07:32.639 --> 00:07:34.600 I've watched a little more, but I don't know how 155 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:36.079 much more I can take, so I haven't seen him. 156 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:39.439 Okay, well I didn't realize this because I can't stand 157 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:43.319 Brianna the daughter. Vicky's daughter's work awful and his husband 158 00:07:43.439 --> 00:07:45.600 is just the fucking he's crazy. 159 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:48.839 Oh, okay to Oklahoma guy, the guy who. 160 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:52.600 Tried to beat up like Lydia's mom member was like, 161 00:07:52.639 --> 00:07:53.839 get your feet off the table. 162 00:07:53.959 --> 00:07:55.800 That guy, he's the worst. 163 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:59.319 Yeah, so but did you know that Michael and Brianna 164 00:07:59.360 --> 00:08:00.000 do not get a lot? 165 00:08:00.839 --> 00:08:02.519 So that makes me like Michael. 166 00:08:02.680 --> 00:08:04.920 Yes, they haven't seen each other in eight years. 167 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:05.839 Wow. 168 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:09.240 So somebody on Instagram wrote to him, visit your sister, heart, 169 00:08:09.319 --> 00:08:12.279 it's been a minute, and he wrote back, I've never 170 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:15.680 been invited out there, and she doesn't visit California. I 171 00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:18.240 was living in Hawaii and now Spain a couple of 172 00:08:18.279 --> 00:08:20.160 years ago. I said I wanted to visit when I 173 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:22.759 was fairly close to Oklahoma, and she said it wasn't 174 00:08:22.759 --> 00:08:25.399 a good time because of her husband, who I don't 175 00:08:25.399 --> 00:08:27.439 get along with very well. And then he gave like 176 00:08:27.480 --> 00:08:30.040 a little shruggy emoji, which I think is like was 177 00:08:30.079 --> 00:08:31.000 liberal or something? 178 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:34.600 Yes, is I think, Yeah, I love Michael, Let's make 179 00:08:34.679 --> 00:08:35.360 him the star. 180 00:08:36.519 --> 00:08:39.720 Yeah. And then somebody wrote the Bravo fandom defends some 181 00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:43.159 toxic men sometimes, but I've never met a defender of 182 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:46.120 Brianna's husband. We all get bad vibes. 183 00:08:45.799 --> 00:08:52.120 From him, and so controlling. He was always like seriously 184 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:54.759 like Brianna was kind of a strong nurse. She had 185 00:08:54.759 --> 00:08:56.559 her own stuff going on, she has her own money, 186 00:08:56.600 --> 00:08:59.399 and yet he wanted to control, especially after they had 187 00:08:59.519 --> 00:09:01.639 kids as the one kid. 188 00:09:01.919 --> 00:09:04.879 Yes, and he was mean. He was like awful to Vicky. 189 00:09:04.960 --> 00:09:08.080 And then I understand that Brooks was awful, but like 190 00:09:08.279 --> 00:09:10.919 part of what Brooks is Brooks was terrible. 191 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:12.159 Brooks was faking cancer. 192 00:09:12.200 --> 00:09:15.440 I mean, according to Brooks, though it was Vicky's idea, 193 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:18.000 it was a storyline, so you kind of almost have 194 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:21.600 to step back and go, yeah, that's fucking crazy and insane. 195 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:25.039 But also like Vicky could have told him to say that, 196 00:09:25.879 --> 00:09:28.240 I wouldn't be It wouldn't put past any of them 197 00:09:28.360 --> 00:09:30.000 or Prosers or anybody. 198 00:09:30.039 --> 00:09:31.600 So he was just doing what he's gonna do. 199 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:34.440 But Brianna, remember, she was like, I will not even 200 00:09:34.480 --> 00:09:36.360 step foot in the house if Brooks is there, like. 201 00:09:36.320 --> 00:09:40.600 She's so controlling. Yes, you're gross. They are the worst, 202 00:09:40.840 --> 00:09:41.360 all of them. 203 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:44.919 And that's why I listened to watch what Crappen's recaps 204 00:09:44.960 --> 00:09:48.879 of Orange County Housewives for fun. But I almost can't 205 00:09:48.919 --> 00:09:51.679 take that either, because I just can't stand Vicky so much, 206 00:09:51.720 --> 00:09:53.200 and I'm just so mad they brought her back. 207 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:55.559 I mean, she is back back, and she thinks she's 208 00:09:55.600 --> 00:09:57.279 like ruling the fucking thing. 209 00:09:57.360 --> 00:09:58.279 These maga people. 210 00:09:58.840 --> 00:09:59.480 I hate that. 211 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:02.480 She also pretends she thinks she's so funny. So like 212 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:04.320 when people are fighting, she has this look on her 213 00:10:04.320 --> 00:10:07.000 face where she's like, oh, she always does this weird 214 00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:09.840 like mouth open circle mouth things. You know, yes, like 215 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:12.720 the screen people thought yes, but like your eyes are 216 00:10:12.759 --> 00:10:15.600 all crazy because she loves this drama and it's really 217 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:17.720 frustrating and it kind of makes me want to bring 218 00:10:17.799 --> 00:10:18.399 back Slate. 219 00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:21.799 Like each person is worse. It's like a Marvel It's 220 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:22.600 like watching. 221 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:24.799 A Marvel movie where it's a bunch of villains, like 222 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:26.480 you know, one of the ones where there's all villains 223 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:28.679 and you're like, oh, okay, all right, okay, bring back 224 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:31.600 Scorpion then, and Scorpion's gonna take out the punisher, and 225 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:33.399 then the punisher will take out this guy. And okay, 226 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:35.480 you got Gray Hulk in there, let's get him back. 227 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:36.840 We don't usually like him, but we need. 228 00:10:36.799 --> 00:10:41.519 Him on this. I know that that got Yeah. 229 00:10:40.600 --> 00:10:43.159 I got, I liked it, but you understand what I'm saying, 230 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:46.559 Like they're such all monsters that I'm just like Slate. 231 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:48.000 We need to bring Slade back. 232 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:50.480 And I never want to see Shannon and I don't 233 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:53.120 want to see her stupid pratfalls and her. 234 00:10:53.759 --> 00:10:57.320 That's all she's doing. I felt she does it all down. Yeah, 235 00:10:57.360 --> 00:10:58.320 it's ridiculous. 236 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:02.759 All right, Okay, so'st okay. So I want to say 237 00:11:02.799 --> 00:11:04.960 that I'm a little disappointed about this, and I don't 238 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:07.080 want to do too deep a dive on it. But 239 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:11.080 Greg Grippo Do we remember Greg Grippo? Of course, yes, 240 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:15.480 So Greg Grippo was on Katie Thurston's season and he 241 00:11:15.600 --> 00:11:18.480 was kind of a favorite. Yeah, like we really kind 242 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:21.000 of We were all rooting for him, and a lot 243 00:11:21.039 --> 00:11:24.080 of us felt like Katie was maybe in the wrong. 244 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:29.720 Katie who has stage four cancer and we are really 245 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:35.320 hoping for her. She's married to a comedian. Yeah, I 246 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:40.240 want to say, Jeff Acirie. He loves her. It's really 247 00:11:40.320 --> 00:11:45.159 sweet's she's going through it though right now with like 248 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:48.080 treatments that weren't working and I feel so bad. But 249 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:54.159 at the time, before any of this, I felt like 250 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:57.279 she was doing Greg Grippo wrong. Do you remember that 251 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:00.919 I really liked him and I felt like she was 252 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:03.399 stringing him along. And there was this that season where 253 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:05.639 he was like, why don't you basically just kind of 254 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:08.399 asking her to just pick him, and she was like, no, 255 00:12:08.600 --> 00:12:10.480 and I won't say I love you, and I won't. 256 00:12:10.519 --> 00:12:14.120 I won't. This is the show I'm playing. I'm doing 257 00:12:14.159 --> 00:12:15.840 the show. And he was like, it's not a show 258 00:12:15.879 --> 00:12:20.120 to me. And then later when they had the after 259 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:23.320 the Final Rose, she was really coming for him and 260 00:12:23.360 --> 00:12:26.440 she basically was calling him a gaslighter when you were 261 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:30.240 gaslighting me and I remember thinking, oh my god, she's 262 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:34.799 so annoying. Well, and then he was with Victoria Fuller 263 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:39.759 for a long time, remember, and people the tide started 264 00:12:39.799 --> 00:12:43.360 to change on him. So there's this Reddit thread where 265 00:12:43.399 --> 00:12:47.080 basically a lot of people do not like Greg Grippo, 266 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:55.399 and so basically this is an article says a lot 267 00:12:55.440 --> 00:12:58.679 of the things about Greg Grippo. It says, are either 268 00:12:58.759 --> 00:13:02.279 niche to this subreddit or people simply do not know everything. 269 00:13:02.759 --> 00:13:06.120 Support whoever you choose, but here's a full breakdown. And 270 00:13:06.159 --> 00:13:11.840 then they go on about let's see an ex girlfriend 271 00:13:11.879 --> 00:13:16.320 that he had. It said he pursued her very intensely 272 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:19.919 and quickly immediate talk of marriage and her being the 273 00:13:19.960 --> 00:13:24.039 perfect girl. He quickly intertwined her with his family. Then 274 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:28.840 she began to notice controlling behavior. Devaluation was the next stage. 275 00:13:29.039 --> 00:13:31.600 Started a love bomber. We got a little love bomber 276 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:31.840 in here. 277 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:35.720 Narcissists yep okay criticized her clothes, her friends, the photos 278 00:13:35.759 --> 00:13:38.559 she posted, called her a slut if her dress was 279 00:13:38.600 --> 00:13:43.200 too short, called her fucking pathetic if she posted bikini pictures. 280 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:47.480 He cycled so consistently between love bombing and devaluation that 281 00:13:47.519 --> 00:13:51.240 it was easy to forgive him whenever he apologized. And 282 00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:53.000 then it says she was there for him when his 283 00:13:53.080 --> 00:13:56.559 father was diagnosed with cancer in twenty eighteen. She was 284 00:13:56.600 --> 00:13:59.960 really intertwined with his family. She was constantly supporting him, 285 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:02.840 but he would get mad when she would leave to 286 00:14:02.840 --> 00:14:05.440 do her own things, and he would be outraged that 287 00:14:05.519 --> 00:14:08.639 she would abandon him and insisted that the only reason 288 00:14:08.679 --> 00:14:10.600 she wanted to be away from him was to meet 289 00:14:10.639 --> 00:14:15.679 other guys. So she shared that she experienced verbal abuse, 290 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:20.480 and then she says he openly screamed and cursed at 291 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:23.679 his family members. She once heard him call his own 292 00:14:23.720 --> 00:14:24.799 grandmother a cunt. 293 00:14:25.759 --> 00:14:26.360 Oh my god. 294 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:30.519 Yeah, and this girl is saying that she really became 295 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:32.799 like a shell of herself, and she claims that he 296 00:14:32.919 --> 00:14:37.039 desperately wanted to be famous. And he was originally announced 297 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:39.600 as a contestant on Claire Crawley's. 298 00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:41.960 Season, Oh It's like as to come back. 299 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:46.679 Yeah, So when it got postponed due to COVID, he 300 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:49.840 claims he dropped out because he wasn't ready to get married. 301 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:52.480 His ex says he always says he didn't want to 302 00:14:52.519 --> 00:14:54.519 go on that season because he was twenty four with 303 00:14:54.559 --> 00:14:58.759 no intentions of getting engaged, but he always anyway, blah 304 00:14:58.799 --> 00:15:05.360 blah blah. And then so after Katie season aired, basically 305 00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:08.679 the rest of this story is that Katie and this 306 00:15:08.840 --> 00:15:13.240 ex girlfriend became friends and because Katie felt like she 307 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:16.320 was crazy because he was gaslighting her, I guess. And 308 00:15:16.360 --> 00:15:19.519 then that ex girlfriend and Katie became friends, and the 309 00:15:19.639 --> 00:15:23.600 ex girlfriend was like, girl, you are not crazy, it's 310 00:15:23.679 --> 00:15:26.720 not you. So, it says the ex shares what she 311 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:30.519 saw in her relationship with him was consistent gaslighting, manipulation, 312 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:35.799 emotional abuse. Shortly after, in twenty twenty one, Bachelor producers 313 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:39.320 were allegedly vetting him to be the Bachelor and reached 314 00:15:39.360 --> 00:15:43.120 out to his exes. So he reached out to her 315 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:46.279 to apologize for her behavior. This is the ex girlfriend, 316 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:49.080 and she says she did not respond. She called back 317 00:15:49.120 --> 00:15:52.879 the producers with a lawyer and recounted all of the 318 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:57.879 above that we just talked about. Wow, isn't that kind 319 00:15:57.919 --> 00:16:01.080 of crazy? Well it's not. And so they they were like, okay, yeah, 320 00:16:01.159 --> 00:16:02.200 never mind, he's not going to be. 321 00:16:02.159 --> 00:16:05.759 About's surprising how little they vet yeah, you know, like 322 00:16:05.879 --> 00:16:08.200 I mean, that's the least of it from what we've heard. Yeah, okay, 323 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:11.240 he's love bombing asshole. But then now you've got like, 324 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:15.039 you know, sexual offenders and liars, and. 325 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:18.840 It's almost like it's almost this is just an opinion. 326 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:20.799 I'm not saying it, but it almost feels like they 327 00:16:20.919 --> 00:16:23.960 want it to be like this so it can be controversy, 328 00:16:24.120 --> 00:16:29.200 you know what I mean, Like what you know, I 329 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:32.840 feel like, Okay, it's like okay in some other just 330 00:16:32.879 --> 00:16:33.720 like quick news. 331 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:35.200 I don't I don't want to like just have it 332 00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:39.080 be that dark. But here's something sweet. Is charity our 333 00:16:39.159 --> 00:16:41.960 charity and Doton already married. Let me just see before 334 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:47.080 I reach out, get married and Doughton. I love them. 335 00:16:47.360 --> 00:16:50.159 I love that she chose him. I love him. He's 336 00:16:50.159 --> 00:16:53.799 so real and I really like her a lot. Okay, 337 00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:55.360 so they're getting married next month. 338 00:16:55.759 --> 00:16:59.120 That's wonderful. We should be invited. We should be invited 339 00:16:59.159 --> 00:16:59.399 to that. 340 00:16:59.559 --> 00:17:01.240 Why are Why wouldn't we be? 341 00:17:01.639 --> 00:17:03.679 I wonder if they'll do like a special or something. 342 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:05.079 I mean, that's a that's a huge deal. 343 00:17:05.119 --> 00:17:05.839 They met on The. 344 00:17:05.799 --> 00:17:09.319 Bachelor and they're they're a success story. Oh I have 345 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:11.880 something to tell you about that. Oh tell me you finished? 346 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:13.079 Do you want to finish the charity? 347 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:15.440 I was I was just going to tell you that. 348 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:19.039 She posted this really long thing about I'm just trying 349 00:17:19.079 --> 00:17:22.839 to find it for you about the what's great about 350 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:26.000 being engaged? She wrote, she did this like slide show, 351 00:17:26.039 --> 00:17:28.240 and it's we had a long engagement. Here's what it 352 00:17:28.319 --> 00:17:31.839 taught me. And it's like really nice and very emotionally 353 00:17:31.880 --> 00:17:33.319 intelligent and. 354 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:36.559 Very beautiful and he's beautiful, and I like, I like 355 00:17:36.599 --> 00:17:38.440 that that's what the show was supposed to be. Remember 356 00:17:38.440 --> 00:17:39.960 when we used to actually have a heart and we 357 00:17:40.160 --> 00:17:41.680 kind of like it when people got together. 358 00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:44.960 Yes, Oh, and then there are a lot of success 359 00:17:44.960 --> 00:17:46.079 stories out of a show like this. 360 00:17:46.240 --> 00:17:49.480 It's supposed to be seeing through the guy that's kind 361 00:17:49.480 --> 00:17:54.960 of smarmy, because like season one of the Bachelorette with Trista, 362 00:17:55.039 --> 00:17:57.319 there was the guy that was the guy that was Yeah, 363 00:17:57.319 --> 00:18:00.319 she picked Ryan, who was like the kind of little 364 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:02.920 bit of a simp, you know, writing her poetry and 365 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:05.440 everyone iron man he was a fireman. Yeah, but he 366 00:18:05.559 --> 00:18:08.519 was really like soft and like into her. And then 367 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:11.559 there was the final to the other guy was a 368 00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:13.920 little bit edgy or Charlie. 369 00:18:13.920 --> 00:18:16.279 It was alpha, yeah, and ever I. 370 00:18:16.279 --> 00:18:18.319 Was worried that she would pick him and not see 371 00:18:18.359 --> 00:18:19.839 that he was kind of an asshole, and she picked 372 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:22.440 the right guy. And then there was Ashley in JP's 373 00:18:22.519 --> 00:18:26.359 season where JP was the nice guy. So I don't 374 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:29.240 know why she chose him right and chose they split. 375 00:18:29.359 --> 00:18:30.960 They did get married, but they split, but they had 376 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:31.680 a couple of kids. 377 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:34.119 But I want to say JP, like Rosenbaum or something, 378 00:18:34.599 --> 00:18:37.480 was this nice Menchi guy she was she was too like, 379 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:40.640 she was great, she is. She chose, she chose right, 380 00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:42.599 And I think I feel like their divorce was just 381 00:18:42.640 --> 00:18:46.000 like okay, like nothing too crazy happened. I don't think right. Remember, 382 00:18:47.039 --> 00:18:49.640 it's hard to keep up with this many marriages and 383 00:18:49.759 --> 00:18:51.960 datings and divorces. But here's what I was going to 384 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:55.079 tell you speaking, I age choosing the right person and 385 00:18:55.160 --> 00:18:55.480 all that. 386 00:18:55.559 --> 00:18:56.400 So I'm having a con. 387 00:18:56.559 --> 00:18:58.880 I'm at a party a couple of weeks, like let's 388 00:18:58.880 --> 00:19:02.200 say two weeks ago, and we're all talking. Somebody brings 389 00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:05.559 up Real Housewives, not New Hampshire, Roode Island, which I 390 00:19:05.640 --> 00:19:08.720 know you're not watching. You know what it is though, 391 00:19:08.759 --> 00:19:13.519 it's basically yeah, of course and so and Ashley Eye 392 00:19:13.559 --> 00:19:15.079 is on this yeah, and so I was like, yeah, 393 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:15.799 we're all talking. 394 00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:17.160 I love this. I love this. 395 00:19:17.359 --> 00:19:18.759 And I was like, you know, to be honest, I'm 396 00:19:18.759 --> 00:19:20.920 really enjoying watching Ashley. And they all turned on me. 397 00:19:21.240 --> 00:19:24.359 Nobody wanted to hear my and they're like bull ring, 398 00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:26.599 and I'm like, yeah, she might be a little boring 399 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:28.880 on the show, but they're like, what's her storyline that 400 00:19:28.920 --> 00:19:30.960 she's just like married to some gross guy that works 401 00:19:31.000 --> 00:19:31.720