Speaker 1: Joining us now is our good friend from the Clemson Insider.
Speaker 1: It's Will Vandervoort. What's going on, my friend?
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 1: Guys?
Speaker 2: How y'all doing?
Speaker 1: We're doing fantastic. We'll lead off with a quick Halloween
Speaker 1: question if you don't mind, do you have a favorite
Speaker 1: Halloween candy or even a mount Rushmore that you can nominate.
Speaker 2: Halloween candy? Not a big I'm not a big candy guy.
Speaker 2: I never have been, but if I had to go,
Speaker 2: I would say probably not be the the little Hershey's
Speaker 2: candy bars and the uh and and some maybe some
Speaker 2: either Reese's pieces.
Speaker 1: Reese's pieces are criminally underrated, very underrated. Yeah, so well
Speaker 1: let's stop into football. What we got you here? And
Speaker 1: Avart you can find him at the Clemson Insider. Just
Speaker 1: your progress report right now? On the Tigers, we haven't
Speaker 1: spoken in about a month probably, And look, it's been
Speaker 1: an interesting season so far. They had the open week,
Speaker 1: and I guess since you know the Georgia game, they
Speaker 1: have certainly made strides on offense. They've looked very potent
Speaker 1: on defensive times. Where would you grade this team right now? Overall?
Speaker 2: That's safely grant them overall, maybe an A right now,
Speaker 2: they can be better. A plus obviously would be better.
Speaker 2: But you know, I think they're solid A because when
Speaker 2: you win six straight and you win dominating fashion, you
Speaker 2: know you've proven you can you through some good things
Speaker 2: and done some good things. And defensively, I think is
Speaker 2: where the defense hasn't played. It's that game yet I
Speaker 2: do believe that. I do think they can do better,
Speaker 2: especially with the first team guys. So that's gotta be good.
Speaker 2: Make Twim's defense feel good because they know they're six
Speaker 2: and one and they can still play better, and they
Speaker 2: play I think offensively they're playing as bad as good
Speaker 2: as they can. And you know, I don't know if
Speaker 2: there's anything really you can critique negatively on the offense.
Speaker 2: I mean, offensive line has much improved, only allowed two
Speaker 2: sacks themselves all year. Uh the uh, that's just the
Speaker 2: offensive line being charged with sacks, by the way. The
Speaker 2: you know, Kate Klubmick obviously is is swinging it everywhere.
Speaker 2: Twenty touchdown, three interceptions. You know, he's got four rushing
Speaker 2: touchdowns and has really become a factor in the run game,
Speaker 2: taking care of the football on both both sides. And
Speaker 2: then the wide receivers, man, you know, they're much improved too,
Speaker 2: and you know, start off with you knows, even putting
Speaker 2: britting Steel in there. You know, Britney Steel's having a
Speaker 2: heck of a year, so is Antonio Williams. Obviously you've
Speaker 2: got more and you know Bryant west Coat doing their thing.
Speaker 2: And then also you know Troy Stilado and Adam Randall
Speaker 2: have been just hitch out as well and they've had
Speaker 2: their opportunity. So I just really don't see anything on
Speaker 2: the offensive side that I could be negative about. You know,
Speaker 2: where defensively there's some issues. You know, obviously at defensive end,
Speaker 2: they're still trying to figure some things out there. I think,
Speaker 2: you know, Shaheen loss has come around, like where he's
Speaker 2: at in his progression. I think on the back end,
Speaker 2: I think they on the last game they moved Khalil
Speaker 2: Barnes more back to the nickel position and put Griffin
Speaker 2: back there at safety. I think that was a good
Speaker 2: move because I think Khalil Barnes is more comfortable and
Speaker 2: plays better at that nickel position, and I think it
Speaker 2: showed against Virginia because he probably had his best game
Speaker 2: of the season. So if they can get better on
Speaker 2: that back end of the defense, and I think maybe
Speaker 2: they're taking steps to do that. They're gonna be They're
Speaker 2: gonna be challenging to get to beat. And if the
Speaker 2: defensive line can just continue to get better and they
Speaker 2: can start get more pressure on the on the quarterback
Speaker 2: like they did the last couple of weeks, you're gonna
Speaker 2: start seeing them get better as well. So yeah, there's
Speaker 2: there's some good things and bad things, But overall, I say,
Speaker 2: as seams of the age right now, Will Van.
Speaker 1: Der Voord, Clemson Insider joins us here game on always
Speaker 1: great to get his perspective and have a few laughs
Speaker 1: along the way. But on a serious note, you mentioned
Speaker 1: the offensive line. You mentioned Kay Club Nick. They are
Speaker 1: really playing as one right now, that whole group, and
Speaker 1: it's great to see. And you look at Club Nick.
Speaker 1: I think one thing Sweeney talked about I saw it
Speaker 1: reported on your website here the Clemson Insider that Club
Speaker 1: Nick's sort of willingness to be more active in the
Speaker 1: run game Dabo. Sweeney has pointed out that that's been
Speaker 1: a big plus for him. Just size up Club Nick
Speaker 1: his development. It's not just the offensive line. They've done
Speaker 1: a great job, and these receivers have stepped up big
Speaker 1: and I think the play calling has been great. But
Speaker 1: Clubnick on his own has really grown up in a
Speaker 1: very short amount of time here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has. I mean, and it helps him grow
Speaker 2: up when everybody's better around him. I mean, that's just
Speaker 2: for an insurre fact, you know. And but he's played,
Speaker 2: he's played phenomenal, you know, as I mentioned, And I
Speaker 2: think the difference in this offense this year is his
Speaker 2: ability to be a factor in the run game. You know,
Speaker 2: he's he's pulled when he needs to at the right
Speaker 2: time in the run pass option part of the game.
Speaker 2: And he's running for big yards. I mean, he's just
Speaker 2: not running like one or two yard touchdown runs. I
Speaker 2: mean he's running for like thirty forty yards out for touchdowns.
Speaker 2: Well what that does that really, he's really making defenses
Speaker 2: pay when they go man a man and he gets
Speaker 2: outside the pocket, right, and so you know that means
Speaker 2: teams have to do different things they don't want to do. Well,
Speaker 2: that's going to open up the run game already has
Speaker 2: you know, Clemson looks how balance Clemson has been right now,
Speaker 2: they're one of the most balanced teams in the country.
Speaker 2: They're averaging two hundred averaging almost three hundred yards of
Speaker 2: game throwing the football, and they're averaging two hundred yards
Speaker 2: of games running the football. I mean, that's all you
Speaker 2: want out of your offense, is your averaging nearly five
Speaker 2: hundred yards a game in total offense, you're averaging over
Speaker 2: forty points. And that's counting the Georgia game, by the way,
Speaker 2: in those numbers, so they're doing in the six game
Speaker 2: win straight, they're actually way over those in those numbers.
Speaker 2: So they got a good balance running the football. And
Speaker 2: I think club Nick being a part of running the
Speaker 2: football and being a factor in the run game is
Speaker 2: why that balance is showing, because it's just opening up
Speaker 2: everything in the offense. And when you look at Clemson
Speaker 2: and today with Trevor Lawrence and Deshaun Watson and Kelly
Speaker 2: Bryant there when the quarterbacks ran the football, they were
Speaker 2: part of the run game, yep, and they put stress
Speaker 2: on the defense. And with all the weapons Clemton has,
Speaker 2: you throw that factor in there now it's almost unstoppable.
Speaker 2: And that's why they've been so good this first half
Speaker 2: of the season.
Speaker 1: Well, it's been a couple of weeks, but I caught
Speaker 1: your podcast Believe in Clemson Football, and every week it's
Speaker 1: it's always a fun journey into not only you know,
Speaker 1: the present, but the past. And a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: one of you know, your favorite people on the planet, CJ. Spiller,
Speaker 1: was honored by this great university. Let's just take a
Speaker 1: moment and have your perspective on what a great career,
Speaker 1: not only it's been for Spiller as a player, but
Speaker 1: off field and now in the coaching rings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's he's a friend of mine. I got
Speaker 2: to know CJ when he was a player. Actually, I
Speaker 2: started working with IPT Media at the time that CJ.
Speaker 2: You know that that Dabo's first year, say coach, and
Speaker 2: I really got to know CJ personally and who he
Speaker 2: is as a person, and you know, and he's just
Speaker 2: a great guy, just just really is. And getting to
Speaker 2: know that side of him was was really fun for me.
Speaker 2: And you know it's still it's still know him today
Speaker 2: and you know, see him through through what we do
Speaker 2: with our job and stuff like that, and you know,
Speaker 2: he's just one of those people man that he's just
Speaker 2: good on every side, you know, I mean, whether he's
Speaker 2: a football player, he's one of the best. Whether he's
Speaker 2: a coach, he's one of the best, and whether as
Speaker 2: just a person, he's one of the best. As a
Speaker 2: dad he's one of the best, and as a husband,
Speaker 2: one of the best. And he's just good people and
Speaker 2: and and he and he demands and that helps him
Speaker 2: win his run in his room, right in this running
Speaker 2: back room, because that makes by him being who he
Speaker 2: is and demands so much of himself, that forces his
Speaker 2: players understand how much he demands of them, and they
Speaker 2: respect it and understand it, and they want to play
Speaker 2: for him and play hard for him. And that's what
Speaker 2: you see out of his running back room. And uh,
Speaker 2: just so happy for CJ. Man really am just that
Speaker 2: he's in the not no surprise obviously that he's in
Speaker 2: the Ring of Honor, and as well deserved as anybody.
Speaker 2: He's up there with my good friend Levon now who
Speaker 2: was the last one before him, And it's just it
Speaker 2: was just awesome for me because he's the first player
Speaker 2: I've been doing this twenty years, guys. I know that
Speaker 2: sounds crazy, but I have. He's the first player during
Speaker 2: my twenty years that's now in the Ring of Honor
Speaker 2: that I covered at Clemson. So it's it is crazy,
Speaker 2: it's it's it's pretty special to say, hey, I watched
Speaker 2: his I remember when he played all four years at
Speaker 2: Clemson and what he did with the program, And you know,
Speaker 2: he is to Clemson football in this era that Steve
Speaker 2: Fuller was in the nineteen seventies and eighties. Steve Fuller,
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't know this or remember it.
Speaker 2: The old timers will, but Steve Fuller was like c J. Spiller,
Speaker 2: and he kind of proved everybody that, hey, a great
Speaker 2: player can't come to Clemson and have a great career
Speaker 2: and go on to the NFL and have a great career.
Speaker 2: When Steve Fuller proved that and put Clemson on the
Speaker 2: map with those seventy seven and seventy eight teams, it
Speaker 2: really sparked what we saw in the nineteen eighties and
Speaker 2: what Clemson did winning the national championship in eighty one
Speaker 2: and then going on and just having a dominant decade
Speaker 2: there under Danny Ford. Well, c J. Spiller is the
Speaker 2: guy that did that for Dabo Sweeney. He came back,
Speaker 2: he came to Clemson over Florida, and when everybody in
Speaker 2: America wanted him. He was a five star guy, and
Speaker 2: he came to Clemson and he ended up having a
Speaker 2: great career, went on to the NFL, had a great
Speaker 2: career as well. And then and what that did is
Speaker 2: that just showed the CJ. Excuse me, the TAJ Boyds
Speaker 2: and the Sammy Watkins and you know New Hopkins, those guys.
Speaker 2: It started it right and then by CJ doing it,
Speaker 2: those guys followed in line. And then Clemson came in
Speaker 2: and then you got to Shaun Watson, you got Trevor Lawrence,
Speaker 2: you got all those great receivers and Christian Wilkins, and
Speaker 2: I can go on and on and on, and then
Speaker 2: we see where they're at right now. And yeah, c J.
Speaker 2: Spiller is the guy that started it all man, and
Speaker 2: he did. You know, he deserves that credit.
Speaker 1: You can make the argument that, ya, he's one of
Speaker 1: the top two or three most instrumental players in the
Speaker 1: Sweeney era. I mean, as you mentioned, because it was
Speaker 1: right in that important time for Dabbo to spring that
Speaker 1: program forward in his formative years. And certainly congrats to CJ.
Speaker 1: Spiller in his entire family as he's honored by the
Speaker 1: University there. Shifting gears now you got Louisville coming up here,
Speaker 1: an interesting team with some some good offensive weapons. Let's
Speaker 1: get your perspective on what lies ahead for Clemson here,
Speaker 1: seven thirty kickoff down at the Valley this Sunday or
Speaker 1: this Saturday. I should say, by the way.
Speaker 2: And get right to that. I would be remiss though,
Speaker 2: if I didn't mention that this week, sit in your
Speaker 2: seats at halftime because Sammy Watkins and Tyj's boy, we're
Speaker 2: going to be honored in the Clinton Hall of Fame,
Speaker 2: in the Athletic Hall of Fame. So I want to
Speaker 2: give those guys their credit to Yeah, as they were,
Speaker 2: they're like CJ. They kind of got this whole thing going,
Speaker 2: and they deserve that credit. It's good to see those
Speaker 2: guys looking forward to obviously I see Taj a lot,
Speaker 2: but obviously looking forward to seeing Sammy back in Clemson.
Speaker 2: But as far as the game goes, this is a
Speaker 2: huge game, guys, for Clemson as they start that stretch
Speaker 2: here in the season where they got Louisville this week.
Speaker 2: Next week they go to Virginia Tech, and then two
Speaker 2: weeks ago they go two weeks from now, they go
Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh. Listen, if Clemson. We've already found out by
Speaker 2: the way the tiebreaker works, the possibility to have a
Speaker 2: three way tie in the ACC. So regardless, if Clemson
Speaker 2: can win these next two games, regardless Clymtson's going to Pittsburgh,
Speaker 2: We're into orange pants. I mean, it's a championship game,
Speaker 2: a chance to clinch a birth in the a SEC
Speaker 2: Championship game, going to Pittsburgh here in a few weeks.
Speaker 2: So it starts with Louisville first. I mean, they got
Speaker 2: to win this game. I mean it's huge and what
Speaker 2: they want to do, and they want to get to
Speaker 2: the AC Championship game. They want to make the colleg
Speaker 2: football playoff and they need to get there. They got
Speaker 2: to win this game. But also this game is huge
Speaker 2: in the sense of what's happening on Tuesday night. And
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about the elections. I'll talk about the
Speaker 2: colleg football payoffs because that's what we care about, and
Speaker 2: the college football playoffs. Initial rankings are coming out on
Speaker 2: Tuesday night.
Speaker 1: I'm excited, man, I can't wait for that. The ones
Speaker 1: that something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this means something. So it's important that Clemson play
Speaker 2: well this week and show off themselves to the committee.
Speaker 2: They don't have to blow Louisville out because it was
Speaker 2: a good team. The committee knows Louisville is a good team.
Speaker 2: The important thing is that Clemson shows themselves how what
Speaker 2: kind of team they are to the committee. Win the
Speaker 2: game and he play well winning the game. That's going
Speaker 2: to do wonders, I think for Clemson. And add that
Speaker 2: to what they've already done. And I know people have
Speaker 2: to say, well, well, what's Clinton's strength to schedule is
Speaker 2: not any good? Well, here's the thing, we don't know
Speaker 2: what this committee is looking for yet. We're going to
Speaker 2: find that out on Tuesday night. Because some committees in
Speaker 2: the past have been big on strength to schedule. Some
Speaker 2: committees in the past have been big on yeah, you
Speaker 2: don't got a very good strength to schedule, by how
Speaker 2: dominant have you been in your wins? Well, Clinton's been
Speaker 2: dominant in their wins. And if Clemson's able to play
Speaker 2: well against a good Louisville team and win and look
Speaker 2: good doing it, I think that's going to bode wonders
Speaker 2: for Clemson. And what you hope is they start off
Speaker 2: this rankings in the top ten, because then that'll give
Speaker 2: them opportunities with Virginia Tech and Pittsburgh and South Carolina
Speaker 2: in the next few weeks to get some good wins
Speaker 2: to add on to that resume. And I know people
Speaker 2: are saying John Rofe, people like yeah, but well about
Speaker 2: the automatic birth. You don't got to worry about that,
Speaker 2: you do because you don't know what's going to happen
Speaker 2: in the championship game. You just can't assume Clinton is
Speaker 2: winning the ACC anymore. So you want Clinton's resume to
Speaker 2: look good to when they get DACY championship game. They're
Speaker 2: sitting in the top six. They don't have to get
Speaker 2: in the top five in this there, but they're in
Speaker 2: that top six. When the regular season is over, going
Speaker 2: to Charlotte, then Clinton, I think, is in the playoff
Speaker 2: regardless of what happens in d ACY championship game. That's
Speaker 2: why these next few weeks are so big for Clemson.
Speaker 3: Steve Will on Twitter, Will, I've got some Pittsburgh questions
Speaker 3: here for you, right A lot of the focus, rightfully, so,
Speaker 3: is there on the offense, especially with the you know,
Speaker 3: the quarterback changes. And I do want to get your
Speaker 3: take on Russell Wilson and what he brings to this
Speaker 3: offense and how he has performed, at least in the
Speaker 3: two starts that he's had here in Pittsburgh. But I
Speaker 3: also want to ask you and get your take on
Speaker 3: this defense, this Pittsburgh defense, namely kind of in the
Speaker 3: first half of games and also when it comes to
Speaker 3: stopping teams on third downs. Obviously, the defense has been
Speaker 3: really well when it comes to I mean, obviously third
Speaker 3: quarters they're holding teams to zero points, but just second
Speaker 3: half in general, this team really dominates on defense.
Speaker 4: What do you what do you contribute?
Speaker 3: At least from my perspective, kind of a slower start
Speaker 3: there in the first half of these games for the defense.
Speaker 2: Well, one thing is they got to show up the
Speaker 2: run game it you know, teams are coming out Dallas
Speaker 2: did it to them, and then the Giants the other day.
Speaker 2: Teams that you don't expect to run the football that
Speaker 2: well against Pittsburgh had done it. Yea, And so you
Speaker 2: got a couple of weeks here. You better figure it
Speaker 2: out during this off week because you know, in two
Speaker 2: weeks are playing you know, the Ravens who do nothing
Speaker 2: but run the football till everybody they're doing so you know,
Speaker 2: they got to figure it out here pretty fast. But
Speaker 2: I think part of it is just guys are getting
Speaker 2: out of their gaps and are just the run laying.
Speaker 2: Integrity is not there, and I think, you know, they're
Speaker 2: just just getting killed on that back side of it.
Speaker 2: And you saw that the other night against the Giants,
Speaker 2: and so I think that's the number one thing they
Speaker 2: got to get better at stopping the run and then
Speaker 2: allowing those chunk plays. When they do it, seems like
Speaker 2: they'll have a team second and you know, and I
Speaker 2: think part of us because they got such a great
Speaker 2: pass rush, but they'll have a team second and fifteen
Speaker 2: and they're thinking, Okay, they're gonna throw the football and
Speaker 2: then guys just rush up field. And the Giants killed
Speaker 2: them with the delayed draw, and so did Dallas, and
Speaker 2: so there's an issue there self. Scouting this week's going
Speaker 2: to be able to find it probably what's actually happening,
Speaker 2: so they can concentrate on fixing it. They did a
Speaker 2: better job adjusting to that, I think, more so in
Speaker 2: the second half, even though they did give that long
Speaker 2: touchdown run when they got up two scores there, So
Speaker 2: you know, that's part of the problem for him on defense.
Speaker 2: But then they you know, they make adjustments, and that's
Speaker 2: one good thing they've been good after this year. And
Speaker 2: like you said, they've been good at getting off the
Speaker 2: field when those opportunities have come up, and that's been
Speaker 2: much better this year too. Limiting the penalties as well.
Speaker 2: You know, the Steelers don't don't. They don't get penalized
Speaker 2: too much knock on wood with my jinx and anything here,
Speaker 2: you know, But they've been really good about, you know,
Speaker 2: not being penalized, especially on the big stupid plays like
Speaker 2: a pass interference penalty or a holding bells out you know,
Speaker 2: when the bell out plays is what I call them, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, And so they they've been real good about
Speaker 2: limiting those things. And then of course, guys, they got T. J.
Speaker 2: Watt and if teams would start allowing, would start official
Speaker 2: would called a hole at least. Yeah, I think I
Speaker 2: think it would least help this. I can't. I've been
Speaker 2: keeping a running count throughout the last five or six teams,
Speaker 2: and so like, the Steelers will get called on the
Speaker 2: average three times for holding during the game and the
Speaker 2: opposing team only one. And I'm sitting there thinking, are
Speaker 2: you trying to tell me that the Steelers pass rush
Speaker 2: on defense is not as good as the other teams.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't believe that to be the case.
Speaker 2: Obviously he's got t J. Watt and Alex high Smith
Speaker 2: and Alex high Smith by the way, twelve pressures.
Speaker 1: The other day, he was a crazy game those Jets,
Speaker 1: those Giants off offensive tackles that I know. Alamelor was
Speaker 1: sort of saying, I'm ready, I'm ready.
Speaker 4: Afterwards he came back, he said he didn't do anything.
Speaker 4: I held him on an island.
Speaker 1: I was there by constantly. It's amazing. Dexter Lauren. I
Speaker 1: mean they kept him in check. Dexter huh. He unbelievably
Speaker 1: led the league in sacks coming to that game with nine.
Speaker 1: A Clemson product will, I mean, this guy's been on
Speaker 1: fire this year.
Speaker 2: Well, they did a good job against Dexter Lawrence, says
Speaker 2: Night as far as not letting him sack Russell Wilson. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but he's still but Dexter Lawrence still dominated that game there.
Speaker 2: He was still there. He was making plays. Dexter Lawrence
Speaker 2: is just unbelievable. There's one play where he took the
Speaker 2: Steelers center and right guard shoved him aside. It was
Speaker 2: it was unbelievable. He's that. He is so fun to
Speaker 2: watch play. Man. I wish he was wearing black and gold,
Speaker 2: I know it, and not that blue and white, because man,
Speaker 2: he was. Man, if you had him with Cam Haywood,
Speaker 2: forget about, it would be fair. Forget about you know,
Speaker 2: in the middle of that defense, it wouldn't be fair.
Speaker 2: So yeah, dex is launch playing well. But I thought
Speaker 2: I thought Russell Wilson, you know, in the offense, I
Speaker 2: thought was much better. Again, as they continue to get better,
Speaker 2: I was a guy in the camp you know that.
Speaker 2: You know, with Russell Wilson got healthy, you need to
Speaker 2: put him in the lineup and you and because I
Speaker 2: felt like the offense needed that because he just sees
Speaker 2: the game better than justin field. Bill gives you, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the electrifying runs and stuff like that, and that's great.
Speaker 2: But the NFL is about passing the football, and you
Speaker 2: got to be able to throw the football. If not,
Speaker 2: teams are gonna just load up the box and eventually
Speaker 2: going to stop you. Dominant. Yeah, look how dominant you know,
Speaker 2: Nagie Harris has been. Now you know, you're getting better
Speaker 2: and better each week. And so I mean, and George
Speaker 2: Pickens now and and and Donnelle Washington. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: you know these weapons are coming out of nowhere, and
Speaker 2: those students were this good. I'm like, yes they are.
Speaker 2: They just didn't quarterback. I could throw it to him.
Speaker 1: Problem was running angry in that game A left over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's run angry. He's run angry in every game
Speaker 2: this year. You could tell the contract year and also
Speaker 2: the Steelers that picked up that year the offer. See you,
Speaker 2: I guarantee you by the end of the season. The
Speaker 2: way he's running, he's gonna get it. He's going to
Speaker 2: get signed before Steven by the Steelers, before brilliancy starts Ie.
Speaker 1: Make him mad and then cash in on the Yeah.
Speaker 4: Will uh?
Speaker 3: With one extra question, with all the all the wide
Speaker 3: receiver trade rumors that keep going around and Steelers have
Speaker 3: landed Cooper Cump and I you can everybody, how's the
Speaker 3: feel that, Uh, Deontay Johnson's going to the Ravens hurts
Speaker 3: a little bit and it stings a little bit.
Speaker 2: It's things it does because it's Deontay Johnson's own fault.
Speaker 2: So I can't really I can't really be like all
Speaker 2: mad at the Steelers about it because he was being
Speaker 2: he was being a brat and all he had to
Speaker 2: do is just wait a week and they signed Russell Wilson,
Speaker 2: you know, and.
Speaker 1: Y'all and y'all got Dante Jackson out of it, who
Speaker 1: has three picks right now, and the Panthers got I'm.
Speaker 2: Saying, I can't feel bad because Jackson all he's doing
Speaker 2: is lead the team interceptions.
Speaker 1: He's so good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's playing very well opposite Joey Porter Jr.
Speaker 2: I can't complain about it. I mean, good luck to
Speaker 2: him over there in Baltimore. I hope we beat the
Speaker 2: crap out of him in a couple of weeks. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be up there watching that game and I'll be
Speaker 2: booing him with the rest of I think.
Speaker 4: Joey Porter Junior is going to follow him that week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it'll be to be Dante Jackson Yontay Johnson,
Speaker 1: the battle of former Panthers. How about that? Will we
Speaker 1: taking too much of your time?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: You too kind. He's the host of the Believe in
Speaker 1: Clemson Football podcast and just great work with the Clemson Insider,
Speaker 1: and he's a Rabbit Steelers fan. There's six and two, baby,
Speaker 1: Let's ride will Vanvo first place going into bye week
Speaker 1: feeling good man.
Speaker 2: Feeling great, feeling great, and we'll see fun Man.
Speaker 1: We'll see in Clemson on Saturday.
Speaker 2: Brother, all right, man, we'll see you guys.