1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,359 Speaker 1: Hello everybody. Before we get started, I just wanted to 2 00:00:02,439 --> 00:00:06,040 let you know we have published our first episode to YouTube, 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:07,599 So if you want to know what Jason and I 4 00:00:07,799 --> 00:00:10,679 look like, feel free to check out the link in 5 00:00:10,759 --> 00:00:14,279 the episode description below or just search us up Surely 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,879 you Can't Be Serious Podcast on YouTube. 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: On with the show. 8 00:00:20,719 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 3: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirley You Can't 9 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,120 Be Serious Podcast. We are here today with part two 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,760 of our Van Halen series. This one is the rise 11 00:00:31,839 --> 00:00:35,479 and Fall of David Lee Roth van Halen as a 12 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,479 group with David Lee Roth at the Helm, one of 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,240 the most important bands of the eighties. Join us as 14 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,000 we jump back into the history of Van Halees. I'm sorry, 15 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,759 did you say jump back into we might as well 16 00:00:50,079 --> 00:00:51,200 might as well jump. 17 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 4: Hello everybody, and welcome to the Surely Can't Be Serious 18 00:01:05,519 --> 00:01:08,519 Podcast with your co hosts James D. 19 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 2: Graves and Jason cole Band. 20 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 3: We're gonna pick up where we left off last time. 21 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:18,400 We had covered the first two singles off of Van 22 00:01:18,439 --> 00:01:19,840 Halen One Awesome. 23 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 5: This is going to be the rise and Fall Daily Roth. 24 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 3: And as always, please hit the subscribe button now so 25 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,439 that you never miss an episode of the surely you 26 00:01:28,519 --> 00:01:32,480 can't be serious podcast. So then where are we now? 27 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,120 The third single, yes, so yeah. The third single is 28 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,560 Ain't Talking about Love. This is one of those few 29 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,480 songs that they did with Sammy after Sammy joined the band, 30 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,920 one of the few Roth songs that made it over. 31 00:01:46,079 --> 00:01:48,680 And it was originally supposed to be a punk parody 32 00:01:48,799 --> 00:01:51,519 from Eddie, but he just said, well, it just didn't 33 00:01:51,599 --> 00:01:52,680 ever really sound like punk. 34 00:01:52,719 --> 00:01:53,519 Speaker 2: I mean, it's be punk. 35 00:01:53,599 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 3: It's only two chords, it's a minor and it's g 36 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:57,480 It's one I was able to pick up. 37 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 5: It's one of my favorite davidly Roth and Allen's it's 38 00:02:00,319 --> 00:02:00,879 so good. 39 00:02:00,959 --> 00:02:03,879 Speaker 3: It absolutely is. And it's one of the few ones 40 00:02:03,879 --> 00:02:06,519 that it was overdubbed, but it was overdubbed with an 41 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,479 electric sitar. But he starts off that song and he's 42 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:10,520 you can listen. 43 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:11,719 Speaker 2: To the beginning. We'll listen to the beginning of it 44 00:02:11,719 --> 00:02:12,120 real quick. 45 00:02:19,039 --> 00:02:21,319 Speaker 3: So you hear how the strings sound different there, They 46 00:02:21,319 --> 00:02:24,360 sound muffled, right. It's a technique called muting where with 47 00:02:24,439 --> 00:02:26,560 your right hand you're holding the pick, but you put 48 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,000 your palm against the bottom part of the strings. You 49 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,080 don't press them down so much that there's no sound 50 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,199 at all, but you press it just enough to mute 51 00:02:34,199 --> 00:02:38,080 the strings, okay, and so that's that cool sound. And 52 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,680 nobody's going to say that these songs were amazing. Lyrics wise, 53 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,199 David Lee Roth did pretty much all the lyrics, and 54 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:49,080 I think he'll readily admit there's no depth from some silliness. 55 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 5: And so Dave was born into a family of a 56 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,400 successful eye surgeon. While his dad was bringing them up, 57 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,240 his uncle, I think, is a well known doctor as well, 58 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,439 and there's kind of medical family and they expected Dave 59 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,039 to kind of fall in their footsteps. And the day 60 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,599 was known as sort of the troublemaker, the high hyper energy, 61 00:03:10,039 --> 00:03:14,159 troublemaking kid, but not medical school material. 62 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:14,759 Speaker 2: Right. 63 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 3: If anybody can say anything about David Lee Roth, it's 64 00:03:18,199 --> 00:03:20,080 he's going to suck the marrow out of life. 65 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,479 Speaker 2: That's his goal. Right. 66 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 5: He definitely party follows him around, that's for sure. 67 00:03:25,759 --> 00:03:29,039 Speaker 3: His motto was it doesn't matter whether you win or lose, 68 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,639 it's just how good you look. I can't think for 69 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,360 really a more shallow statement than that, but that was 70 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,360 so like, that's's the kind of mantra of his life. 71 00:03:37,479 --> 00:03:40,479 And then there but just you know, to kind of psychoanalyze, 72 00:03:40,479 --> 00:03:42,680 maybe a little too much. If you looked at listen 73 00:03:42,719 --> 00:03:44,800 to Ain't talking about love. It says I've been to 74 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,960 the edge, I've stood and looked down. I've lost a 75 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:49,879 lot of friends there, baby, I ain't got no time 76 00:03:49,919 --> 00:03:52,960 to mess around. I think he probably had a darker 77 00:03:53,039 --> 00:03:57,120 side that was related to the thinking deeply that he 78 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,240 actively decided to avoid. You listen to him talk, and 79 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:07,039 you know he's an intelligent guy. He's scattered and obviously manic. 80 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,120 He is way, way manic, but there's definitely a high 81 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,479 degree of intelligence that's going on there. But he I 82 00:04:13,479 --> 00:04:15,639 think he has a fear of the deep. 83 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,759 Speaker 5: The next song, Jamie's Crying. 84 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 3: So this song is about a girl who she decides 85 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:40,120 that she's wanting more than just physical love. She wants real, 86 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,240 true love. And so you can tell from the timber 87 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,519 of the band Dave lets her down easy. I'm sure, 88 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,839 Oh yeah, it's great, see you later. I'll go down 89 00:04:49,879 --> 00:04:50,360 on the block. 90 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,319 Speaker 5: The interesting thing to me about this song, okay, Jami's 91 00:04:54,319 --> 00:04:58,279 Crying nineteen seventy eight, we get a taste of this 92 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,000 against very six well song in nineteen eighty nine. May 93 00:05:02,079 --> 00:05:05,079 have heard of it. May surprise you. Let's do it, Dunloaks, 94 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:05,839 wild thing. 95 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 2: Awesome. All right. 96 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 3: So on that debut album they had a lot of success. 97 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,160 They didn't have any number ones, but it was a 98 00:05:22,199 --> 00:05:25,439 platinum album for them. They came back from the tour. 99 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 5: When they come back from tour, in eleven months of 100 00:05:28,399 --> 00:05:31,560 killing it every night, hard work, eleven straight months supporting 101 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,040 the album, they get back, the manager of the record 102 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,199 company says, great job. You guys did awesome. You lost 103 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:39,839 three million dollars in a new record. 104 00:05:42,319 --> 00:05:45,759 Speaker 6: What squeeze. 105 00:05:48,319 --> 00:05:50,879 Speaker 3: Yes, So they've got another album to come out with 106 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,600 and before we leave, before we leave Van Halen One, 107 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,759 we shouldn't forget that there are many other good songs 108 00:05:56,759 --> 00:05:58,680 on there, and this is one of those few albums 109 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,800 that exists in history that is good from beginning to end. 110 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,360 There are no bad songs, there are no throwaway tracks. 111 00:06:04,759 --> 00:06:06,519 Feel Your Love Tonight is one that's on there that 112 00:06:06,519 --> 00:06:07,279 we didn't mention. 113 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 5: One of my favorites that we don't. It kind of 114 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,079 gets overlook, but he gets some radio play. It's called 115 00:06:11,079 --> 00:06:11,560 ice Cream Man. 116 00:06:11,639 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 3: I Love ice Cream Man. It was cover of an 117 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,319 old blues song and it's the only song maybe maybe 118 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,519 on any of the albums. I haven't really researched it out, 119 00:06:19,519 --> 00:06:21,360 but definitely on this album. It's the only one that 120 00:06:21,439 --> 00:06:22,959 Dave is playing some guitar on. 121 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: He's the one for the. 122 00:06:24,439 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 5: I don't even know Dave could play the guitar well. 123 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 3: The song part that he's playing is not terribly complicent. 124 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,639 You'd probably play it with only two fingers, you know. 125 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,959 But wisely, you know. Dave said when he first saw 126 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,240 them on stage before he had joined the band, he 127 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,959 saw Eddie play and he said, what he does with 128 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:45,519 his hands, I want to. 129 00:06:45,519 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 2: Do with my feet and my voice. 130 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,759 Speaker 3: He knew his place, he knew what he needed to do, 131 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,120 and he knew where his skill sets. No your limitations, 132 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,800 absolutely so, Jason. 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Just go to manscape dot com. 154 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,439 Put in that code and you will get twenty percent 155 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,839 off and you'll help us out by helping hour sponsor. 156 00:07:56,959 --> 00:08:04,360 Might as well jump wack it. So you had ice cream, man, 157 00:08:04,399 --> 00:08:06,519 you had Feel your Love. We have several other great 158 00:08:06,519 --> 00:08:08,480 songs on the album, but we obviously don't have time 159 00:08:08,519 --> 00:08:11,879 to go through all of those. After that, they come back, 160 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:13,839 Warner Brothers said we need a new album, and the 161 00:08:13,839 --> 00:08:16,600 album that comes out is and Aalen two and Aalen two. 162 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,319 Several great songs on that album. A couple of my 163 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:25,800 favorites are beautiful Girls. Their big big hit was Dance 164 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:26,399 the Night. 165 00:08:26,279 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 5: Away, the night great song. 166 00:08:32,759 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 3: Dance, Yeah, and it was again you're seeing this this 167 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,639 bringing what people wanted from disco into rock and roll right. 168 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:54,720 Dance the Night Away is Dave obviously Dave's influence and 169 00:08:55,279 --> 00:08:59,879 making something showy and glamorous with the hard rock and 170 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:00,840 rock behind it. 171 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,879 Speaker 5: Also, another notable song I think is the opening one's 172 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,679 You're No Good. It's Van Halen's version of the Linda Ronstads. 173 00:09:11,519 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that I've actually heard that version. 174 00:09:13,919 --> 00:09:15,799 Let's I want to listen to it. We'll play a 175 00:09:15,799 --> 00:09:29,480 example of that real quick. 176 00:09:43,159 --> 00:09:43,639 Speaker 2: Okay. 177 00:09:44,519 --> 00:09:47,279 Speaker 3: Well, I gotta say honestly, that was one of the 178 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,840 rare circumstances where they took somebody's song and I don't 179 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:50,639 think they made it better. 180 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:51,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. 181 00:09:51,159 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 5: I didn't like it that much. 182 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 2: Yeah. 183 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 3: Now I think Linda Ronstad, I mean number one, she's 184 00:09:55,279 --> 00:09:57,360 she's hot back then, and she was hot. She got 185 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,639 a great voice, beautiful voice. Usually had Eagles back thank 186 00:10:00,639 --> 00:10:00,919 you too? 187 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 2: Ye was? I wonder if they backed her on that song. 188 00:10:02,919 --> 00:10:04,080 I can't remember. I don't know. 189 00:10:04,759 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 3: So anyway, moving on, we've we've hit Van Halen two. 190 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,480 And you know how long it took them to record 191 00:10:11,519 --> 00:10:12,679 this song or this album. 192 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 5: Sorry, this isn't crazy, I really don't understand it. But 193 00:10:16,919 --> 00:10:19,440 they started recording December tenth, nineteen seventy eight. 194 00:10:20,159 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 6: They were finished. 195 00:10:20,919 --> 00:10:23,919 Speaker 5: Recording this album December sixteenth, nineteen seventy eight. 196 00:10:23,919 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 6: That's six days. 197 00:10:24,759 --> 00:10:25,399 Speaker 2: Holy crap. 198 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 5: I guess they wanted to get it in before Christmas. 199 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,159 Speaker 2: They had to do some shopping or something. Hi. 200 00:10:29,279 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was released March twenty third, nineteen seventy nine. 201 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 3: Okay, so they released Van Halen one in January of 202 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:41,240 seventy eight. They released Van Halen two in March of 203 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,919 seventy nine, and what have we got after that one? 204 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,559 So they tour and then the next album they go 205 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,799 in the studio is Women and Children First, and it 206 00:10:50,799 --> 00:10:54,320 comes out in nineteen eighty. The big song that I 207 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,879 remember from that album is Everybody Wants Some, which is 208 00:10:56,919 --> 00:10:58,200 still getting record play today. 209 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: I love it's still a great song. 210 00:11:00,399 --> 00:11:02,159 Speaker 5: It is a great song. And for those of you 211 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,360 who maybe I don't know if. 212 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 3: You're like me, but the movie Better Off Dead with 213 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:12,039 John Cusack, there's a big sort of dancing Hamburger animation 214 00:11:12,519 --> 00:11:15,320 thing in the middle that is set to Everybody Wants 215 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:23,080 Some And that's how I learned that song. That's a 216 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,679 weird scene. That is a strange, strange scene. 217 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 5: I guess at movie. We need to talk about that 218 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:28,399 movie sometimes. 219 00:11:28,279 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 3: All right, So then anything else to say about women 220 00:11:31,399 --> 00:11:32,039 and children. 221 00:11:31,759 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 5: Are only on the one another. 222 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 2: You know. 223 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 5: Another big song was and the Cradle Will Rock. 224 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 3: And the credle Wile Rock reached number fifty five on 225 00:11:45,519 --> 00:11:50,200 the Hot one hundred. At this point, there's still really 226 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,679 not seeing very many rock songs. They are still one 227 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,440 of the few bands that you that you're seeing on them. 228 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 5: Nineteen eighty is the time when sort of Kenny Rogers 229 00:11:58,879 --> 00:12:01,039 and sort of pop country was big on the charts. 230 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,879 Speaker 3: Sure you had southern rock doing well as well, but 231 00:12:05,399 --> 00:12:08,639 it just still wasn't the hard rock. Other than Van Halen. 232 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,960 They were the guys that were that were the soul 233 00:12:11,159 --> 00:12:13,279 soldiers march in that tune. 234 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 5: So after this album comes out, they go on a 235 00:12:15,519 --> 00:12:19,200 tour YEP. So it's like album tour, album tour, album tour. 236 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 2: Working hard like they did when before they were famous. 237 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,879 Speaker 5: Okay, so nineteen Eightion one comes along and this whole 238 00:12:24,879 --> 00:12:28,039 time Eddie's been working on material. He wants to come 239 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,799 up with a solo album, and that's what Fair Warning 240 00:12:30,879 --> 00:12:33,200 was actually intended to be, was an Eddie van Halen 241 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,840 solo album. And that's why it's a little more darker, 242 00:12:36,879 --> 00:12:38,960 a little more guitar heavy. 243 00:12:39,159 --> 00:12:39,799 Speaker 2: It's creepy. 244 00:12:40,919 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 5: Not a fan. 245 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 3: It's I'm not a fan of Unchained is great, Don't 246 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,759 be wrong. I love Unchained. It's a great song, but 247 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,279 the majority of the album is not. It's not to 248 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,360 my text. And I'm not saying this it's a bad album. 249 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,639 It's and there are tons of diehard fans that will 250 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,759 love it, but it's just not my It wasn't my 251 00:12:55,759 --> 00:12:56,759 favorite me either. 252 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 5: Unchained is phenomenal. 253 00:13:14,279 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that song, that's the bright shining star on that 254 00:13:17,279 --> 00:13:17,919 album for sure. 255 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:18,279 Speaker 2: Without me. 256 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:20,919 Speaker 5: A lot of people don't realize. But at this time 257 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:22,919 in nineteen eighty one, this is when we have the 258 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:27,320 first major tension between Eddie and Dave. Dave is wanting 259 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,360 to be more pop, Eddie wants to be more rock. 260 00:13:30,519 --> 00:13:34,320 That's crazy because they flip sides later on absolutely flip sides. 261 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:35,600 So Dave wants to. 262 00:13:35,519 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 3: Be more pop, Eddie wants to be more rock and 263 00:13:39,879 --> 00:13:44,000 everybody's getting tired of Dave's ego. I think, yeah, absolutely, 264 00:13:44,039 --> 00:13:46,000 And Eddie can be a pain in the butt too, 265 00:13:46,039 --> 00:13:48,799 and you couple him with Alex and the thing about 266 00:13:48,919 --> 00:13:51,600 people who are able to achieve this type of success 267 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,559 in these type of fields is that they have to 268 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,840 be they have to be kind of full of themselves. 269 00:13:57,879 --> 00:14:00,559 They have to be extremely confident, which is led them 270 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,279 to each other. I mean, Dave saw Eddie's ability and 271 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:08,399 confidence on the stage. They saw Dave's swagger and thought, 272 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,759 this will be something that fits for what we want. 273 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,879 And so obviously it works very very well. But those 274 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,279 tensions will eventually come to a head. 275 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,639 Speaker 5: Right, Okay, So moving on past nineteen eighty one, past 276 00:14:20,679 --> 00:14:22,799 Fair Warning, which to me, the only thing worth talking 277 00:14:22,799 --> 00:14:25,759 about on that album is unchained. You go into nineteen 278 00:14:25,799 --> 00:14:28,919 eighty two, they come up with this idea that, hey, 279 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,399 we need to take some time off, but we want 280 00:14:31,399 --> 00:14:34,159 to stay relevant, we want to stay out front. Let's 281 00:14:34,399 --> 00:14:36,399 I got an idea. Let's just do a cover song, 282 00:14:37,039 --> 00:14:39,440 put it out there, we'll make a video for it, 283 00:14:39,519 --> 00:14:42,480 and we'll stay in front of people. And so Dave 284 00:14:42,559 --> 00:14:44,120 comes up with the idea and he says, let's do 285 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:44,879 Dancing in. 286 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,639 Speaker 3: The Street, right, And Eddie says, no, I don't think 287 00:14:48,639 --> 00:14:49,159 that's a good one. 288 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 2: Let's do pretty Woman. 289 00:14:50,759 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 3: So Eddie says, I can't find the guitar part in 290 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,039 Dancing the Street. Let's do Pretty Woman by Roy Orbison. 291 00:14:56,799 --> 00:14:58,960 And so they say, okay, let's do it, and they 292 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,200 come up with it and it's and it's great, and 293 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,480 they put it out and it's this massive hit number twelve, 294 00:15:04,519 --> 00:15:07,879 reach number twelve, which, again, knowing that what we know, 295 00:15:07,919 --> 00:15:11,159 what we've said so far, a hard rock version of 296 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,279 pretty Woman getting that high on the chart is amazing, 297 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,679 but it locks them into another issue, that's right, And 298 00:15:17,919 --> 00:15:20,159 the record company says, you got this hit song, but 299 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:21,080 we don't have an album. 300 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:22,679 Speaker 5: We've got to have an album. You guys got to 301 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,600 get back in the studio and produce an album to 302 00:15:25,679 --> 00:15:28,039 go with this hit song. Right, Which, before we get 303 00:15:28,039 --> 00:15:31,879 into that, have you ever watched the video for Pretty Women? No, 304 00:15:33,039 --> 00:15:38,639 it is the weirdest Okay, So we know music videos 305 00:15:38,759 --> 00:15:43,200 at nineteen eighty two, you know, are weird and they're cheap, 306 00:15:43,279 --> 00:15:44,159 and they're all these things. 307 00:15:44,399 --> 00:15:44,559 Speaker 2: Right. 308 00:15:44,679 --> 00:15:47,039 Speaker 3: Nineteen eighty one, by the way, just for a reminder, 309 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,279 is when MTV first came out late eighty one. August 310 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,039 of eighty one is when MTV came out, right, and 311 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,600 so in eighty two the music video there. There's less 312 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:57,720 than three hundred music. 313 00:15:57,519 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 5: Videos out there. So this move this music video Pretty Woman, 314 00:16:01,639 --> 00:16:05,159 if you watch it, you have these midgets who are 315 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,720 sexually assaulting this woman who is tied up. 316 00:16:08,639 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: They are groping her. Oh my Goshkay. 317 00:16:10,919 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 5: And so Michael Anthony gets a phone call, but he's 318 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:18,639 a samurai, and then he calls his friend jungle Boy 319 00:16:18,919 --> 00:16:22,799 Alex van Halen, who's like, you know, he's got bones 320 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,879 and he's like a capeman. So he calls his friend 321 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:33,240 Gunslinger Eddie van Halen, who then calls his friend David 322 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,519 Lee Roth, who is dressed like George Washington. 323 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,159 Speaker 3: Okay, now, actually I can I can kind of remember 324 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,200 that part because he had a very adam aunt look 325 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,080 about him with his yeah, with his George Washington thing. 326 00:16:46,639 --> 00:16:50,320 I'm thinking that I just have blocked out the midget problem. 327 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,159 I don't think that's a PC anymore. 328 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,039 Speaker 2: Little people. He's being attacked by the little people. 329 00:16:55,440 --> 00:17:00,799 Speaker 5: This woman is being assaulted by little people. So yeah, 330 00:17:01,039 --> 00:17:04,160 back to the album. Five of the twelve songs are. 331 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 3: Covers, right, and this is this album is diver Down, right, 332 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:08,599 This is diver Down. 333 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 2: Okay. 334 00:17:09,039 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, So the album that they produce when they realize 335 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,119 that Pretty Woman is such a big success is diver Down. 336 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,759 And as you've said, several covers and the band they're 337 00:17:18,799 --> 00:17:22,640 not getting along and they really kind of consider this 338 00:17:22,759 --> 00:17:25,480 Dave's album because they would never have done this many 339 00:17:25,519 --> 00:17:26,839 covers on an album, that's right. 340 00:17:27,319 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 5: And this is the van Halen Brothers very public least favorite. 341 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 3: Album, absolutely, and it's the least favorite album of the 342 00:17:36,759 --> 00:17:41,880 Roth albums for most folks, I think. But it let's 343 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,880 keep in mind they set a world record at this 344 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,880 point in their career, which kind of indicates it doesn't 345 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,200 really matter that they're not doing what they feel is 346 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:54,200 their best work at this Just after their tour for this, 347 00:17:55,519 --> 00:17:58,559 they they decide they got to get away from each other. 348 00:17:59,279 --> 00:18:04,160 Dave goes with their head of security and they travel 349 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,000 down to the Amazon. Now, you know, the rest of 350 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,200 the guys are married and they've got you know, they're 351 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,160 going to go be with their wives and family. But 352 00:18:10,319 --> 00:18:15,119 Dave and a handful of security guys are down there 353 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:19,000 on a boat in the Amazon, in the jungle Interestingly, 354 00:18:19,079 --> 00:18:21,519 this guy, the security guard who is their head of 355 00:18:21,519 --> 00:18:25,920 security and looked like a total kick butt guy, said 356 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,680 that he you know, when they put him in charge 357 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,160 of security. The first thing that they have said to 358 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,400 Hi when he came in is do you have a 359 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:38,319 problem with h drugging and drinking? No, he goes, do 360 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,079 you have a problem with underage girls running around and 361 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,559 have a fun And he goes no, And he goes 362 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:49,319 can you roller skate? And the guy says no, what 363 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,279 I can learn? And so he was. He was their 364 00:18:52,279 --> 00:18:55,559 head of security, and he developed a system where if 365 00:18:55,559 --> 00:18:57,240 there was going to be a problem in the crowd, 366 00:18:57,319 --> 00:19:00,440 they had sectors and zones of the crowd, like ay 367 00:19:00,519 --> 00:19:04,119 problem in Sector five, Row seven, man in the black 368 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:08,559 t shirt. Well, Dave very quickly caught onto this mapping 369 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,039 concept and so even in the middle of the show, 370 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,640 he would be bop himself over to one of the 371 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:14,680 security guards. 372 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 2: And go okay. 373 00:19:15,759 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 3: Sector fix fifteen wrote three red shirt blonde giver backstage 374 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,079 pass And so all of this there was a system 375 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,200 like all of the security guards would hand out the 376 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,359 backstage passes for Dave and maybe for the other guys, 377 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,559 but really for Dave, and they would sign their name 378 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,519 to the back of the pass. And if Dave had 379 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,400 a deep and meaningful conversation with one of these ladies 380 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,440 that had the badge, the guy who had the name 381 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,400 on the back of the backstage pass, he got a 382 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,119 little extra money and got a nice tips, and if 383 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,680 it was really deep and really long, he got. 384 00:19:51,559 --> 00:19:52,759 Speaker 2: A lot of extra money. That's right. 385 00:19:53,839 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 5: So centivizing the help. 386 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, yeah, exactly. You gotta know where your 387 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,359 priorities are. Use the system that's in place. 388 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 5: So Dave in the jungle. 389 00:20:02,279 --> 00:20:04,519 Speaker 3: So Dave's in the jungle with the security guard. They 390 00:20:04,839 --> 00:20:07,319 they end up in one port. They call back to 391 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,039 that to the US to talk to people, and they're like, hey, 392 00:20:10,039 --> 00:20:13,160 you guys got to get back. We have been asked 393 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:18,160 to do the US Festival. And so the US Festival 394 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,440 was something that had been put together the year before 395 00:20:20,559 --> 00:20:25,160 by Steve Wozniak. It was of Apple computer fame, yeah, 396 00:20:25,319 --> 00:20:29,680 co founder of Apple with Steve jobs and he was 397 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,200 disenfranchised with the seventies, which had been the ME generation, 398 00:20:34,559 --> 00:20:37,000 and so he put together this thing called the US 399 00:20:37,039 --> 00:20:39,960 Festival because he wanted the eighties to be the US 400 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,839 generation and the headlining band for that for that festival 401 00:20:45,039 --> 00:20:48,160 was Van Aalen van Halen. And do you know what 402 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,480 the record is that they set so. 403 00:20:49,559 --> 00:20:50,759 Speaker 2: Guinness Book a world record. 404 00:20:50,799 --> 00:20:53,519 Speaker 5: They got one point five million dollars for a ninety 405 00:20:53,839 --> 00:20:54,680 minute set. 406 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,839 Speaker 3: So they they do an hour and a half set. 407 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,759 They make more money than anybody has that but tensions 408 00:21:01,799 --> 00:21:02,920 are still high. 409 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,519 Speaker 5: Tensions are high. Even a million dollars an hour can't 410 00:21:06,559 --> 00:21:09,680 cure some of the tensions that are going on. Okay, 411 00:21:09,839 --> 00:21:12,160 So during nineteen eighty three they begin working on a 412 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,920 new album YEP, to come out at the very end 413 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,480 of nineteen eighty three, YEP, and that album is called 414 00:21:18,759 --> 00:21:43,079 nineteen eighty four. For me, this is the best of 415 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,440 the Dave albums. This is my introduction to van Halen. Sure, 416 00:21:46,559 --> 00:21:48,960 this is where I jump in, but this is a 417 00:21:49,079 --> 00:21:52,920 new van Halen. So my introduction to van Halen is 418 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,119 the new van Halen, absolutely, which is partly why I 419 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,680 think I'm partial to Sammy later on. But new sound 420 00:22:01,279 --> 00:22:02,000 begins here. 421 00:22:27,279 --> 00:22:31,079 Speaker 3: Absolutely it does. So as I said before, this was 422 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:35,000 my introduction to the band as well. And you couldn't 423 00:22:35,039 --> 00:22:39,880 help but be inundated with jump at that time in history, 424 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,359 it was the it was the first single off the album. 425 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,799 It is their only number one hit, And if you 426 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,279 got the opportunity to watch MTV, it was on all 427 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,839 the time and it was fascinating. 428 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:51,839 Speaker 5: It was fantastic. 429 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 3: It was it was four guys on stage with no crowd. 430 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,920 I mean, it's just them jumping. 431 00:22:59,079 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 5: It's like a black room with the black drum cloth. 432 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 6: I mean, there's nothing happening. 433 00:23:03,039 --> 00:23:05,799 Speaker 3: There is literally nothing going on. They're in weird clothes 434 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:10,279 that you know, there's leopard skin coats and tatters of 435 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,559 clothes on stuck on to Dave's body and he's making 436 00:23:14,599 --> 00:23:17,640 love with the camera as much as anybody could and 437 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,880 then doing these amazing acrobatics. 438 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,319 Speaker 5: That's a pretty limber guy. Yeah, he can do these 439 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,440 jumping high split kicks. 440 00:23:25,519 --> 00:23:27,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, doing the full splits up in the air off 441 00:23:27,839 --> 00:23:29,160 of the drum stand. 442 00:23:29,279 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, does flip in the video. Yeah, And it's fascinating. 443 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 5: I remember Jump being the intro to all the cub 444 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,519 games on WGN, right that whole summer. 445 00:23:41,599 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 2: Right, Oh wow. 446 00:23:42,599 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 3: Jump is everywhere. The diehard Van Halen fans are getting 447 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,079 mixed reviews. Some of them are sticking with them, some 448 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,559 of them are like, I don't know what's going on. 449 00:23:51,599 --> 00:23:54,160 With these guys. Now, if you listen to the rest 450 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:59,000 of nineteen eighty four, there's plenty of pure hard Van 451 00:23:59,079 --> 00:24:01,960 Halen hits on the one, no doubt, and a couple 452 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,279 of them are are popular now. You know, you get 453 00:24:05,279 --> 00:24:07,160 those guys who think they sold out and so then 454 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,559 all of a sudden, if it's popular, they're not interested anymore. 455 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 2: Yeah. 456 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,799 Speaker 3: I don't care about you guys, because you love the 457 00:24:13,839 --> 00:24:14,480 popular song. 458 00:24:14,519 --> 00:24:17,559 Speaker 5: I love any like radio friendly hits. 459 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,759 Speaker 3: That's what resonates with me, right, I like that, I 460 00:24:20,839 --> 00:24:22,519 like that, I don't I'm not one of these guys. 461 00:24:22,599 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 5: Is like a radio on top forty sucks. Before we 462 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,960 move on from Jump. Yeah, Jump was listed by the 463 00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:31,240 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as one of five 464 00:24:31,319 --> 00:24:33,160 hundred songs that shaped rock and roll. 465 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 2: Okay, so. 466 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 3: Nineteen eighty four is the first single and biggest hit 467 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,559 that they ever had is Jump, as we've said, and 468 00:24:42,599 --> 00:24:46,119 then there are three more singles that come off of 469 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:51,319 that album, Panama, Hot for Teacher, and I'll Wait. Drop 470 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,359 Dead Legs is another great song of the album, but 471 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,160 I don't have a lot to say about that one. 472 00:24:55,319 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 5: Drop Dead Legs is a fantastic stripper song. 473 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't strip, so I don't know. 474 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:34,559 Speaker 3: Well, you know, so let's talk briefly about that those 475 00:25:34,599 --> 00:25:39,720 three songs. I'll Wait was there was a thirteen hit. 476 00:25:39,799 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 5: For the second release, it went to number thirteen, the one. 477 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 3: Hundred Yeah, no video, no video for that one, which 478 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,359 is interesting, is as big of a hit as it 479 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,720 was and as obvious video heads that they had become, 480 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,359 especially Dave, but more synthesizer on this song as well. 481 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:17,000 But the the use of the synthesizer, I'm gonna have 482 00:26:17,079 --> 00:26:21,680 to say, yes, it was a crossover. But that is 483 00:26:21,839 --> 00:26:24,839 why this was the number one hit. That is why 484 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,880 that is why I'll Wait it was such a big hit, 485 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,480 is because that synthesizer allowed them to cross over to 486 00:26:31,559 --> 00:26:33,720 a broader audience than they had ever had before. 487 00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 5: Now, no doubt. 488 00:26:36,079 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 3: And so they've got, uh, they've got these other singles. 489 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,839 I love Panama maybe my favorite song off of the Olden. 490 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,240 Here's something interesting and I didn't bring it up when 491 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,160 we talked about Van Halen's debut album, but they covered 492 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,319 a band when they were in their early stages called Cactus, 493 00:27:09,759 --> 00:27:14,480 which I had never heard before. But there is no question. 494 00:27:14,519 --> 00:27:18,319 I mean, the boys have as much admitted, so several 495 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,640 of the songs that they have they totally have borrowed 496 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,799 some part of a song. So for those of you 497 00:27:25,839 --> 00:27:27,640 who want to listen, maybe we can play it here 498 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,720 in just a second Hot for Teacher. The intro to 499 00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:33,400 Hot for Teacher with the drums and the guitar coming 500 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:40,559 in is just almost identical basically for a song called 501 00:27:41,000 --> 00:28:35,839 Parchment Farm by Cactus. 502 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 6: Stop Swim tea Doc. 503 00:28:14,799 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 3: Down Ball and then eruption was a song that uh 504 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,759 that they again, the intro was very similar to a 505 00:28:24,799 --> 00:28:27,559 song called let Me Swim by Cactus, and we can 506 00:28:27,599 --> 00:29:07,119 play those side by side as well. Yeah, there's no 507 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,720 question he's borrowed these. You listen to him, it's undeniable. 508 00:29:10,119 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 5: But he's improved them. 509 00:29:11,799 --> 00:29:15,279 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's Mozart. There's somebody that nobody's. 510 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:15,839 Speaker 2: Ever heard of. That's right. 511 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,839 Speaker 3: So Panama reaches number thirteen on the Hot one hundred. Yes, 512 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,200 Hot for Teacher comes out. It's a This video is 513 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,400 one of my favorite videos. 514 00:29:24,119 --> 00:29:26,359 Speaker 2: Of all time. Oh yeah, absolutely, with. 515 00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:30,559 Speaker 5: The young Van Halen boys running around the school terrorizing. Right, 516 00:29:30,599 --> 00:29:34,599 you've got miss fizzed and you know, misspelled and miss 517 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,480 science or whatever and those spelled. 518 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,319 Speaker 6: Teachers running around. It's it's fantastic. 519 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:41,839 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 520 00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:45,759 Speaker 3: You got the beginning part with Waldo and Waldo, You've 521 00:29:45,799 --> 00:29:51,000 got his kind of awkwardly sighing mother, and then when 522 00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:54,319 Waldo speaks, he's got this unusually deep voice. 523 00:29:54,599 --> 00:30:00,759 Speaker 2: Oh mom, yeah, no, I'm not like other guys. I'm 524 00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:03,680 nervous on my socks there too. 525 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 3: You know who that voice is right now? That voice 526 00:30:06,599 --> 00:30:10,039 is Phil Hartman of Saturday Night Live fame. Oh Phil Hartman, 527 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,200 God rest his soul. Of course that's him. Oh, that's perfect. 528 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: It's on the. 529 00:30:14,119 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 6: Bus, sat down Waldo. 530 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,119 Speaker 3: So Dave is the one that's responsible for the videos 531 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,839 on both Panama and in Panama. You know they I 532 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,880 think they they did a thing that seemed to be 533 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,119 happening a lot back then, which was videos of the 534 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,440 concert where they're flying on cables like bon Jovi is doing. 535 00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 5: The same and living on a prayer and doon Jovi. 536 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,799 Speaker 2: Was like bouncing all over the place. They look awful. 537 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 3: These guys look fun, right, They're they're flying and drinking 538 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,359 beer and playing the guitar. 539 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:44,319 Speaker 2: Uh. 540 00:30:44,359 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 3: It's it's amazing stuff. And so they've their success is 541 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,920 beyond what has it has ever been in history They 542 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,240 are literally at the top of their game and they 543 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,160 hate each other. 544 00:30:57,359 --> 00:31:00,519 Speaker 5: This is where it falls apart. Dave's ego is out 545 00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:00,960 of control. 546 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:06,359 Speaker 3: At this point, Eddie and and Dave are lockinhorns, and 547 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,960 Alex sides with Eddie of course, of course, and Michael's 548 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:15,839 in the crossfire. But Dave comes up with a new album, 549 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,519 a solo album called Crazy from the Heat right, so 550 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:25,839 he had he had criticized Eddie in the past for 551 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,839 playing with Michael Jackson. This is something we talked about 552 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,039 on our first episode that, uh, the you know, the 553 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,640 guys were doing other things. Michael calls Eddie we played 554 00:31:37,680 --> 00:32:07,000 guitar in the song shirt and then that one ends 555 00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:09,160 up being a number one hit and the album keeps 556 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,960 nineteen eighty four from reaching number one status as an 557 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,720 album Sodve and the guys are pretty pissed about that, 558 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,240 and you see it in one of his videos that 559 00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:19,640 comes out from that solo album. It's he kind of 560 00:32:19,759 --> 00:32:23,799 is mocking Michael Jackson in the just a Jigglo video. 561 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,880 As all of this is going on, is that they 562 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,480 would call these band meetings to get together and write 563 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:30,640 songs and talk about. 564 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,079 Speaker 2: What was going to happen, you know. 565 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, so they would have these band meetings at eight 566 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,880 o'clock in the morning, which is crazy for a rock 567 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,440 band to try to do anything at eight o'clock in 568 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,440 the morning. But the group consensus is, anytime you heard 569 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,480 the words band meeting, everybody was like, oh gosh, So 570 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,559 eight o'clock in the morning, they were supposed to be 571 00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:55,799 there to write and play music. Dave would show about eleven, 572 00:32:56,279 --> 00:32:57,640 start a fight, and then leave. 573 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, probably with a couple girls. 574 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 5: Right right, And I can tally see Dave doing. 575 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 3: This, Yeah, absolutely, And so then just like he was 576 00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:09,960 upset about he walked, He unbeknownst to them, goes and 577 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,799 finds another group of guys to play with produces an album, 578 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,799 a four song album, which he says, hey, you know, 579 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,240 any album's only got four good songs on it. Anyway, 580 00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:22,319 I'm just cutting off the fat. As it turned out, 581 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,200 there were only really two good songs on the album, 582 00:33:25,319 --> 00:33:26,960 so it's still worked out to be about the same. 583 00:33:27,119 --> 00:33:30,480 But as a surprise to the remainder of the band, 584 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:52,160 he releases Crazy from the Heat. Now he I guess 585 00:33:54,119 --> 00:33:56,160 this is the ego speaking right here. He does an 586 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,759 interview with David Letterman in early eighty five talking about that, 587 00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:02,519 and Dave is trying to find out what's going to 588 00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:03,720 happen with the rest of the band. 589 00:34:03,799 --> 00:34:05,759 Speaker 4: I think now's a good time on New Year's to 590 00:34:05,799 --> 00:34:08,239 decide whether you're going to be a hot dog or 591 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:18,320 a little weenie. 592 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 6: I well, I have beautiful. 593 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 4: I have chosen to remain a little wiener for one 594 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:27,639 more season. 595 00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:30,039 Speaker 2: You're gonna be a weenie for another year. Yeah, you bet. 596 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 3: When you're doing solo work, is the is the Does 597 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,000 this mean that the band will soon be breaking up? 598 00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:38,679 Speaker 4: No, No, that happens. You know that does happen. That's 599 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,679 that's the spinal tap story. Now. I still have very 600 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,880 I still have very strong tribal instincts. And we'll be 601 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,639 going into the studio like the middle of this month 602 00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:50,880 and start arguing again, and we'll come back out with 603 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,360 an album sometime this year. 604 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 2: Hopefully. 605 00:34:53,079 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 3: He has this full expectation that the band's going to 606 00:34:55,519 --> 00:34:59,519 stay together. But you just you can't do that. You 607 00:34:59,519 --> 00:35:02,239 can't be the guy who goes and trashes the meetings, 608 00:35:02,639 --> 00:35:05,480 the guy who berates somebody for going and doing work 609 00:35:05,519 --> 00:35:08,719 with other people, and then pull off this stunt and 610 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,000 expect to remain in the band. 611 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,639 Speaker 5: He also had a movie deal on the table that 612 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,079 was annoying the band as well. 613 00:35:16,559 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 3: Well, you know, as we've as I said earlier, he 614 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,000 was the he was the directing force behind their videos, 615 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,159 which are fantastic. I mean, they're great, well put together videos. 616 00:35:26,519 --> 00:35:29,880 He's obviously playing a part in this. He's developed this 617 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,000 kind of Dave TV idea, which is the you know. 618 00:35:33,079 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 5: It was the big thing for about five minutes ago. 619 00:35:35,039 --> 00:35:39,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, he really really was coming up strong. But there's 620 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,719 only so much wind power that can take you when 621 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,960 you don't have your name band behind you, that's right. 622 00:35:47,159 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 5: So we've heard rumors that he was fired, we've heard 623 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:51,800 rumors that he quit. 624 00:35:52,639 --> 00:35:53,599 Speaker 2: Either way, I. 625 00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:56,679 Speaker 3: Don't think there's any question that he made a decision 626 00:35:57,119 --> 00:36:00,519 that led to his exit from the band, but that 627 00:36:00,519 --> 00:36:04,079 that decision was probably not his to leave. But there's 628 00:36:04,159 --> 00:36:07,800 to say, you don't belong here anymore. You've pushed it 629 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:08,199 too far. 630 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,519 Speaker 5: So Dave's out. 631 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 2: Dave is out. 632 00:36:10,599 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 5: Dave's out in nineteen eighty five, right at the pinnacle 633 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,920 of their professional career. 634 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,119 Speaker 3: Right, and so everyone is wondering what's going to go on, 635 00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:23,440 including Eddie and Alex. They don't know what to do. 636 00:36:24,559 --> 00:36:26,400 They don't know whether to get another bass player. They 637 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,599 don't know whether to do a kind of compilation album 638 00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:33,199 where they've got multiple singers performing different songs with them, 639 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,679 or to try to find one singer that they can 640 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,280 go with. That's right, and the smart money at this 641 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:44,199 time was probably on Dave. Yeah you were if you 642 00:36:44,199 --> 00:36:45,480 were like, who am I going to back? Is it 643 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,440 going to be Dave or van Halen? I mean, van 644 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,039 Halen is not van Halen without David le Roth. 645 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 2: It's just not. 646 00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:54,199 Speaker 5: And that's why Ted Timberman went with Dave to produce 647 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:55,800 Ediman Smile. 648 00:36:55,639 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 3: Right, And he called Eddie and said, I'm sorry, I 649 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,119 got to go with Dave on this and the crew too, 650 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,719 and Eddie said, that's okay. I don't really want you 651 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,320 to produce our albums anymore. 652 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:05,639 Speaker 2: Anyway. 653 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 3: Well, he didn't take everybody. Don Landy stayed with them. 654 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,199 Don Landy then became instead of the sound engineer, he 655 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,679 became the producer. He became the new Ted Templeman. 656 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 2: All right. 657 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 5: So there's some discussion in nineteen eighty five about whether 658 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,760 or not to hire a full time lead singer or 659 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,320 to just do an album with guest lead singers, right, 660 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,480 but one of the So here are the names that 661 00:37:25,519 --> 00:37:28,599 are kicked around as Dave's replacement, and some of these 662 00:37:28,679 --> 00:37:33,400 blew me away by all accounts, including hers and Eddie's. 663 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:48,559 The lead option to replace Dave is Patty smythe great voice. 664 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,599 Not sure she's a fit for van Halen. 665 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:55,280 Speaker 3: No freaking way, no, all right, And so she was 666 00:37:55,679 --> 00:37:58,440 the lead option. I think Patty Benatar. That would have 667 00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:58,920 been a great one. 668 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 5: Patty ben Atar could have been an option. 669 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,679 Speaker 3: That ben Atara had some kickbuck songs and was walking. 670 00:38:04,519 --> 00:38:08,559 Speaker 5: Beacon away man, all right. Option number two Jimmy Barnes, 671 00:38:08,599 --> 00:38:09,639 which if you've. 672 00:38:09,519 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 3: Ever seen The Lost Boys, you're familiar with the song 673 00:38:12,039 --> 00:38:28,840 good Times. Oh yeah, that was the one that he 674 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,599 did with in excess. That's right, that's a great that's 675 00:38:31,639 --> 00:38:33,639 a great tune. And he does he's got a strong voice. 676 00:38:33,679 --> 00:38:35,199 I don't know if it's the right voice, but it's 677 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,400 it's it's more, it's deeper, more like Dave's. 678 00:38:38,519 --> 00:38:41,519 Speaker 5: Yep, it's a it's a screamer. It's a screamer, all right. 679 00:38:41,559 --> 00:38:44,280 And then option number three, guy named Eric Martin, who 680 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,800 you'll know if you have heard nineties music at all. 681 00:38:48,079 --> 00:38:50,000 The song to be with You by mister Big. 682 00:38:50,519 --> 00:38:54,199 Speaker 3: Come on baby, come on over, let it be. You 683 00:38:54,320 --> 00:39:01,199 don't want to show you. So he was the lead 684 00:39:01,199 --> 00:39:04,119 singer for mister Big. He was, Okay, that's an entirely 685 00:39:04,159 --> 00:39:07,320 different semi voice, absolutely softer. He's still got a raspby 686 00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:11,800 good voice, melodic. But this is the one that blew 687 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,800 me away. This was an actual offer on the table. 688 00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:18,119 Speaker 5: Darryl Hall of Hollowise. 689 00:39:38,599 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 2: I love Hallowose. 690 00:39:40,119 --> 00:39:44,280 Speaker 3: I listened to that. I listened to uh Lion Eyes 691 00:39:44,679 --> 00:39:50,679 with Private Eyes, thank you? Yeah, sorry, yeah, I listened 692 00:39:50,679 --> 00:39:52,760 to Private Eyes over and over. 693 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,559 Speaker 2: But I'm not a Van Halen. 694 00:39:55,679 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 5: How about how about Eddie Plane your kisses on my 695 00:39:58,559 --> 00:40:00,159 lips kiss. 696 00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 2: Unchained melody or something? 697 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no way. 698 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:09,280 Speaker 2: All right. 699 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,639 Speaker 5: So there's very few people that I can actually step 700 00:40:12,679 --> 00:40:15,159 in for Dave. They have to be established or the 701 00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:18,800 fan base of Chewno. Right, they have to have balls 702 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,719 of steel to get up there and rock out to 703 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,880 these old ones and then pursue a. 704 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 2: New career with these guys. Right, So who they go to? 705 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 5: They go back to the Montrose guy they call Sam 706 00:40:28,519 --> 00:40:29,599 Hagar And. 707 00:40:29,599 --> 00:40:32,639 Speaker 3: It makes it does make absolute sense, And I thought 708 00:40:32,679 --> 00:40:37,000 so at the time. You know, the he had done 709 00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:40,159 very well with Montrose, had been very successful. Then he 710 00:40:40,199 --> 00:40:43,159 went out on his own solo career. Everybody knows the 711 00:40:43,159 --> 00:40:56,639 song I Can't Drive fifty five. Loved the video of 712 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:03,400 fast cars frustration with this For you younger listeners. In 713 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,400 the nineteen eighties, no one was allowed to drive over 714 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,079 fifty five miles an hour anywhere in the United States. 715 00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:10,159 Speaker 2: Can you imagine how. 716 00:41:10,039 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 3: Horrible that was, especially if you own a Lamborghini. 717 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,159 Speaker 5: That's right, that's right. 718 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,519 Speaker 3: I mean, that's just like, you know, here's the candy, 719 00:41:17,559 --> 00:41:18,719 but you can keep the wrapper on it. 720 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,800 Speaker 2: You can't, I don't. That'd be horrible. 721 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 3: And so as it turns out that the Lamborghini that 722 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,239 you see, and well maybe not that one, but a 723 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:32,800 Sammy Hagar Lamborghini comes into play with the joining of 724 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,800 Eddie van Hans exactly right, and Sammy Hagar Sammy's cars 725 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,239 in the shop right at the same time Eddie's cars 726 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,199 in this Yeah, Eddie also had Lamborghini, which, by the way, 727 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:46,000 that is that is the car engine that you hear 728 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,760 in Panama. 729 00:41:50,639 --> 00:41:56,079 Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll run a little bit hot tonight. I can 730 00:41:56,159 --> 00:41:57,719 barely see the road from. 731 00:41:57,519 --> 00:41:58,320 Speaker 2: The heat coming on. 732 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:05,599 Speaker 3: So that's that is Eddie's nineteen seventy two Lamborghini. But 733 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,239 he's having trouble with it. He takes it to his 734 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,760 mechanic and is down, and the mechanic says, what's wrong Eddie, 735 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,079 And Eddie says, man, I need a new lead singer. 736 00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:19,960 And he says, man, want's you call Sammy? 737 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 2: Sammy from Montrose. 738 00:42:21,519 --> 00:42:24,079 Speaker 6: Right, So I thought this was interesting. 739 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 5: So Eddie actually takes his advice, calls Sammy and says, hey, man, 740 00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:32,960 we'd love to come down with the jam with the band. 741 00:42:33,039 --> 00:42:37,679 Let's let's see what we got here and come down tomorrow. 742 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,039 And Samy's like, man, I do nothing tomorrow. 743 00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:41,199 Speaker 6: I just got off tour. 744 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, he just shaved his head. I mean it was 745 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:44,639 I mean he cut his hair. 746 00:42:45,079 --> 00:42:49,199 Speaker 3: It was he had he was on vacation, right, I'm 747 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,519 taking a break. And honestly, he's one of the few 748 00:42:52,559 --> 00:42:54,719 guys that could say I don't need you guys right now, 749 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,480 that's right. I'm I'm really successful on my own. I'm 750 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,800 not Van Halen successful, but I'm successful enough for me. 751 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,960 And he is a savvy businessman. If you learn anything 752 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,800 from his biography, it's that he he knows how to 753 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,519 run a business, and he's a business guy, and he's 754 00:43:09,679 --> 00:43:12,480 been around for a long time. He's older than all 755 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,440 the rest of the guys, and he knows his stuff, 756 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,360 so he's got no reason to have to do this. 757 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,719 But he just says, you know, what the heck, it's 758 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:19,880 what's the harm in meeting. 759 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 5: I heard him say publicly in an interview that he 760 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,199 went initially. 761 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,039 Speaker 6: To Jim see what, see what they had, see what. 762 00:43:28,039 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 3: Was going to go on, and hopefully entice Eddie to 763 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,440 play on his next album. 764 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,639 Speaker 5: Oh nice for my friendship. Maybe Eddie will play on 765 00:43:35,679 --> 00:43:38,719 my next album. Right when they get together, he shows up, 766 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:40,079 he said that. 767 00:43:40,599 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 2: They're baked out of their minds. 768 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,320 Speaker 5: They are drunk, and the whole place is covered in 769 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,119 cigarette butts and it smells like a bar that hasn't 770 00:43:48,159 --> 00:43:49,239 been cleaned in ten years. 771 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,119 Speaker 3: And they start playing. 772 00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 5: They start playing, and magic happens. 773 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he says to himself, my gosh, if they 774 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,360 can sound this good, completely burned out of their minds. 775 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,559 These guys know how to party and they know how 776 00:44:03,559 --> 00:44:05,079 to play. This is my type of show. 777 00:44:05,639 --> 00:44:07,159 Speaker 6: He said literally that day. 778 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, they played, and words just sort of came out 779 00:44:10,199 --> 00:44:12,920 of his mouth and Summer Nights was born out of 780 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,519 that jam session, right, just flowed right. 781 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,679 Speaker 2: Out, scouting, scouting the melody. That's it. Yeah. 782 00:44:19,559 --> 00:44:23,079 Speaker 3: So uh, he's he's known as the red Rocker at 783 00:44:23,079 --> 00:44:28,239 that point, and and he's got his own fame. And 784 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,840 so the first time that I saw him other than 785 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,920 in his video was during Farm Aid which gosh, if 786 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,519 you go back, you can search. You can do a 787 00:44:36,559 --> 00:44:38,440 YouTube search on this one and see the old farm 788 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:38,920 Maide video. 789 00:44:39,559 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 2: Oh my, oh my, oh my, okay, that's the song. 790 00:44:46,039 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 6: Are you trying to pull him on the out there? 791 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:48,119 Speaker 4: Come on? 792 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 3: I can't drive you all that he was. 793 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,280 Speaker 2: He was a unique guy. 794 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,800 Speaker 3: He's he's very free with the language, very colorful, and 795 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,239 he's with his regular band. 796 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,599 Speaker 2: And then he says he's looking. 797 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,039 Speaker 3: At the newspaper, right, and it said that Eddie. 798 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,599 Speaker 6: Was gonna jam with me, And I thought, well, I 799 00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:06,119 didn't know that. 800 00:45:06,519 --> 00:45:09,320 Speaker 3: But Eddie comes out and they play together and they 801 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,480 do an old led Zeppelin tune and they kill it. 802 00:45:12,599 --> 00:45:13,760 Speaker 2: They killed of course, they kill it. 803 00:45:14,599 --> 00:45:16,760 Speaker 5: So I heard Sammy talk about how he really messed 804 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,239 up because this was for all the world to see 805 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,280 their first chance to play live as a group, and 806 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,280 he bombs it with the big mffort and they cut 807 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:28,840 him off, like they shut down. 808 00:45:29,519 --> 00:45:32,760 Speaker 3: It's no longer televised. Oh so I saw a lot 809 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,079 of cuss wordies whenever I watched it. 810 00:45:34,199 --> 00:45:35,079 Speaker 2: I remember that. 811 00:45:36,119 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 3: So anyway, Warner Brothers, so it's kind of like a supergroup. 812 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,440 You've got a very successful solo artist. You've got the 813 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,840 three parts left over after Dave left, right, are we 814 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,920 still going to be Van Halen? Warner Brothers actually came 815 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,119 to him and said, would you consider changing your name 816 00:45:53,159 --> 00:45:54,079 to van Hagar? 817 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,039 Speaker 5: Which I think is interesting. I thought that was always 818 00:45:57,079 --> 00:45:58,880 just kind of a slang. 819 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 3: Term, but yeah, like a or The first time I 820 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,239 heard it was on the movie Joe Dirt. 821 00:46:04,599 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 6: No, sir, man, I don't like that crap. I'm a 822 00:46:07,039 --> 00:46:08,440 rocker dude, through and through. 823 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 3: Here's my favorite bands, AC DC, Van Halen, not Van Hagar, 824 00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:16,280 and Sammy's the one who says, no way, not doing 825 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:22,159 it right. So anyway, Sammy officially joins the band in 826 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:35,079 nineteen eighty five, and we will take that up on 827 00:46:35,119 --> 00:46:38,519 our next episode, part three of the Van Halen versus 828 00:46:38,639 --> 00:46:40,599 Van Hagar discussion. 829 00:46:40,119 --> 00:46:42,320 Speaker 6: Right next week, Van Hagar. 830 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,159 Speaker 3: Don't forget to follow us on Twitter and Facebook. 831 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,159 Speaker 5: At Shirley Podcast on Twitter. 832 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 3: At Shirley Podcast on Facebook, and don't forget to subscribe 833 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,480 to our YouTube channel, the Surely you Can't Be Serious 834 00:46:55,599 --> 00:46:59,480 podcast channel. All music, images, and movie clips are used 835 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,559 for the purpose is of commentary and education, in conjunction 836 00:47:02,599 --> 00:47:04,920 with the Fair Use Agreement under the U S Copyright Law.