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Speaker 1: This is pet Life Radio.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk. Pats.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Human Animal Connection Show, where we believe

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we can communicate with all animals. Join us as we

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explore the thirty three principles and healing methods of the

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Human Animal Connection. As animal lovers, we know that you

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share our commitment to making the world a kinder place

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for all creatures. Together, let's embrace the transformative healing power

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of the Human Animal Connection.

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Speaker 2: Well, hello, everyone, welcome to the Human Animal Connection Podcast.

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I'm your host, Genie Joseph. I'm the executive director of

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the nonprofit organization that brings therapy animals to people in

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need of comfort and joy, and I'm so delighted to

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have Paloma Bercie with me.

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Speaker 3: She is an animal communicator extraordinaire who lives in Switzerland.

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Speaker 2: Right is that right? R? Yes? Okay, in Switzerland, And

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we've done several shows on the nuances of animal communication

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for those who want to go deeper, and today we're

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going to be talking about the three main blocks that

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people tend to experience when they're opening up their abilities

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to communicate with animals. So Palama, welcome to the show.

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Thank you so much for having me. Yeah, great, So

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tell us what inspired you to want to talk about

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the three main things that people the challenges that people

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face when they're learning animal communication. Well, I started teaching

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animal communication in two thousand and two, so quite some

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time ago. Yeh. Over all those years, I have seen

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three main blocks that people come across over and over

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and over again. And it's yeah, I think everybody experiences them.

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I experienced them, and everybody I know and everybody I

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taught has experienced them. That's why I decided to create

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a mini course about it. Okay, so tell us what

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are the three main blocks? Okay? So block number one

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as self doubt? Yes, so you know, like I start

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wondering did I really imagine? Did I really hear that?

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Or was it my imagination? I mean, what if I'm wrong?

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You know? Like, so do you start doubting yourself? You're

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not sure whether you're receiving it or not receiving or

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making it up or you making it up. And the

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problem is, the moment you start to doubt yourself, you

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you lose the connection right right, just shut down and

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then you really have a self talk with yourself. You

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end up having a sort of talk with yourself. But

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not because it wasn't working because you start to doubt it. Right,

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So we all have doubt as human beings, is the

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human condition. But when we go into the outing brain,

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then we lose the connection brain because the connection brain

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and the doubting brain are different parts of ourselves.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: So exactly, it's like it's like if you're, you know,

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talking to one person and you can't take the call

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from the other person. So if the doubt is taking over,

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then your connection diminishes or gets lost completely. Yeah, okay,

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so what what How can people recognize that the doubt

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you mentioned it starts to think, right, So if you're

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starting to think did I do this? This? This true?

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Did I make it up? If you're starting to have

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that dialogue, that's that would be a clue that you

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that a different party of yourself is taken taken the

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front seat. Okay, yeah, and you you really have to

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be aware of that. I mean, that's that's the key.

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You know, you have awareness. You have to have awareness

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where are you at? Are you in your brain or

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are you in your heart? Or what's happening right now?

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Speaker 3: So yeah, okay, So if a person starts to recognize

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that they're in so doubt. How can they quickly get

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back to connection?

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Speaker 2: If you have self doubt, it means really you're in

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your head. Yes, So there is a little exercise that

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I teach in my courses. The moment you notice you're

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in your head, you know, you you just press press

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down to your heart. You know. Do you know this?

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These boxes that you have a feather in a spring,

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you have a spring, it sad and then at the

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end of the spring there is this this clown head

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you know, in the box they call it here, Yeah, exactly.

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So you open up the box and then this spring

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springs out. You know, like, imagine yourself having such a

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box in your heart, and the moment you notice you're

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in your head, this means the top the lid has

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gone off and the spring has jumped into your head

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and you've got the clown head in your head. Now

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you fake the clown head and just press it down

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back to to the box and close the box again. Okay,

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and then you're you're back in your heart. So get

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back to the heart. So we all have these moments

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where the head kicks in and wants to interpret, analyze

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and doubt and and the trick is notice that that

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is what has happened. Make a deliberate choice to to

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push that clown back down and go right back into

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your heart. Okay, great, Yeah, that's so. That's so good because, uh,

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you know, we we hear this from students all the

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time as they're first learning. The first thing out of

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their mouth is well, I'm not sure if I made

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this up, but you know that's that's what we hear

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when the doubt is kicked in. Yeah, good right, yeah yeah.

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So what's the second biggest block? Okay, the second one

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is pressure and expectations? Woo yeah. So you know pressure

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that you put yourself on, the pressure, you know, like

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I have to I have to know, I have to

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know now how works I have done this course and

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you know it. I'm doing everything you know that I'm

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supposed to do and this is supposed to work, and

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it's not working, you know, And maybe block number one

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kicks in and says, well, am I really doing this?

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maybe you have also the expectations from other people that

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puts you under pressure. I mean that happened to me

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in my very very first case I had this friend,

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and this friend had a mother, and this mother had

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some cats, and one of the cats was peeing on

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the floor, you know, on the carpet, and she wanted

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to know why this cat was peeing on the carpet.

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And so I thought it was a good idea to

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go to the house, her mother's house. And there I

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was sitting on the couch and you can you can imagine,

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you know, my friends standing next to the couch to

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the right, the mother standing left on the left side

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of the couch, standing, you know, next to the couch,

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both watching looking at me. You know. The cat was

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in front of me, and I could feel this pressure,

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you know, this expectation from these two women. I knew

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perfectly new in that very moment, this is not going

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to harden. This is not going to work, because there

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is so much president it started to think, how stupid

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are you to put yourself in this situation? You know?

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That was that made it even worse, right, right, right,

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So so really, you know, if you put yourself on

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their pressure, it's just not going to work. Yeah, yeah.

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And because pressure is an energy force, it's like an

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energy feel, and it's like a competing noise so if

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you're wanting to open your channel to communicate with animals,

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you need the You can't have that extra energy. It's

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like a little hurricane going on. You can't listen to

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your favorite music when you've got a hurricane going on, right,

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So the pressure pressure is like a little hurricane in

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the in the in the mix. Yeah. Yeah. And you

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I got invited to to onto the TV and I

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remember Spot, you know, Spot is one of my animal

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mentors and part of my dream team, and I remember

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Spot saying, never ever try to do a communication life

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or on camera, because you will put pressure on it.

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heart and if you put a heart on the pressure,

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it stops speaking. Wo And I love that funny.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's really really good, really good, yeah wild Okay, great.

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So we've talked about self doubt number one, pressure and

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expectations number two. I know I had that because my

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one of my animal communication teachers, I had so much

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respect for him and his ability, was so impressed with him.

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I just thought, oh, I can never do what he does,

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you know, And that that set me back a long time.

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it was a nice feeling, but I just didn't think

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I could do what he could do.

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Speaker 2: So and in comparison is really I mean, that's that

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that's really mad. You can't compare yourself with to somebody

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else because we are all individuals and we are all different,

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and yeah, so we really have to to to have

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this feeling and and you have to know how it

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feels for you, and nobody can tell you. Nobody can

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tell you. You have to feel that way and then

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it's going to work mm hmmm, because everybody feels it different,

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everybody gets the information different, everybody is different, right, So

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really you have to find it out for yourself. How

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is it for you? And it's not going to be

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like it is for somebody else exactly. It's so important,

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you know, It's it's one thing to you know, to

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have people that you admire and to learn from them

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and so on, but in the end you really have

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to recognize, oh, I'm going to do it this way.

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I'm going to be somebody that hears message, or I'm

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going to be somebody that sees images, or I'm going

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to be somebody that gets feelings or I'm going to

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get be somebody who just knows things, you know, just

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like an instant knowing. So to just recognize that you

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have your own unique style that however however anyone else does,

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it is right for them, and however you do, it

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is right for you. That's a huge learning curve, you know,

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especially there's in our society, there's so much pressure to

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conform to some set of standards that you know, become

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another form of pressure. Yeah. Yeah. And you know the

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thing is that from my experience, people that expect to

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see images, they usually they don't. Maybe there comes the

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blog number two expectations, you know, right kicks in the alex.

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So people that expect to see images, they don't get images,

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you know, they get some of them say, I hear words,

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that's so weird. Yeah, well that's the way you get

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the messages. So if you hear worse, that's okay. Yeah,

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but I want to see images, Well, if you want to,

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it's not gonna happen. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I remember I was in one class which turned out

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not to be one of my favorite classes, but I

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was in one class and they put so much pressure

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on you have to feel the sensations in the animal's body,

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and I would go in and I felt nothing. I'd

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listen to other people and they'd say, Okay, the tail

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is this, and the foot is that, and the belly

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I didn't get that. Yeah, you know, it's

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just it's yeah, maybe I don't know if that will

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change for me, or it's just I just don't get that,

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you know. Sometimes I do, But for the most part,

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I am not somebody that feels what the animal feels

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are What about you? Do you feel what the animal feels?

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Is that one of your things? Or you do? Yes? Yes,

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I do? Yeah, yeah, so some people really do. Some

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people really will feel that. Okay, good. So what's number three?

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What's the third biggest blog? Okay, the third biggest blog

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is lack of inner stillness? Oh yes, lack of inner stillness. Yes, yes,

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tell us more about that. Well, we've got so much

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going on in our lives at all, that's that we

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seldom find stillness, and stillness is so deep and we

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really need to take the time to calm down, to

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arrive at our center, to center ourselves, to to just

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be still and give it the room that it needs,

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you know, because animal communication needs the room. You know,

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it needs the space. Give it the space it needs

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to unfold, because if you are under stress and you

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cannot come to inner stillness, then it's not going to happen.

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about the space that animal communication needs, not only not

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in terms of necessarily physical space like a room, but

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the energetic space, so the state of mind. You know

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that if you're in a peaceful state, you're going to

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be able to easily animals, to communicate with animals, and

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if you're not in a peaceful state, you're not going

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to be a look at me ka easily, you know.

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So that's such a great thing to really think about. Wonderful.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're going to take a short break, but when

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we come back, I want you to tell us some

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of your favorite stories of animal communit ocasion that just

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Speaker 2: You've worked with. So we'll be right back in just

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Thank you for loving animals. Now back to the.

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Speaker 5: Show, Let's talk pets on Petlifradio dot com.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to The Human Animal Connection.

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Speaker 3: I'm your host, Judy Joseph, and we're speaking with Paloma

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Bertie about animal communication. So I'm dying to hear the

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story that you have that you were going to tell

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us about Spot the rabbit, your animal, one of your

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animal guides.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about Spot. Yeah. Right, So, when I started

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with animal communication, and we're talking about the free core

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blocks in animal communication, and this story ties so nicely

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into that because when I started animal communication. I had

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this rabbit called Spot, and I had done the basic course,

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and I had done the advanced course, and I was

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speaking with animals, and I wanted to speak with my rabbit.

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And so I walk up to my rabbit, do the connection,

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and I get the following response. I am a philosopher.

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You are not at my level. You are not going

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to understand me. Keep on learning.

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, So here you're going to go and talk

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to your animal as you've learned in the course, and

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say a Spot, would you talk to me?

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Speaker 2: And you get that answer? And I get that answer,

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and like you get these that answer and one of

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the one of the ways I get information from the

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animals are words. Now I got those words. Now imagine

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myself being there. Look, holomo, you've got a good fantasy.

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This is impossible that this has you know, just come

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out of your fantasy. Even if you have a good fantasy,

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No way, this sphrase has come out of your mind.

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So I thought, okay, I'll accept that. So I kept

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on learning. After a couple of weeks, I come back

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to Spot and you get the exact same answer. I'm

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a philosopher, You're not at my level. You're not going

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I'm not going to understand me. Keep on learning, Go

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on for a couple of more months, come back, get

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the same answer. After half a year, get the same answer.

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After a year, get the same answer. After one and

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a half years, get the same answer. You start to

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think you're making this up, right, Like this can't be true.

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I mean I'm talking to other animals. That's wrong here, right,

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So you're talking to all the other animals, people, other

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people's animals, you know, down the street, other animals and

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your animals saying to you, I'm a philosopher or not

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at my level. Come back when you're ready, when you've

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learned exactly. Yeah, so after two years he started talking

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to me. He hasn't stopped since. So I'm very very

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very happy and very grateful. Eating. Yes, that's amazing. But

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this really shows you you have to be persistent. You

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can't just give up, right, you know, if you really

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want something, then you have to be persistent, and you

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have to keep on learning, and you have to keep

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on yeah, doing the exercises and yeah, and maybe you know,

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if you if you're learning animal communication and you have

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such an animal at home, this might be another spot.

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You know, this might be your animal challenging you. You know,

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keep on learning. That's wonderful, that's wonderful.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's so funny because as you first started the story,

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outside my window a little while, rabbit just came from

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the yard and came in that right and looked right

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at me for a moment and then scampered up. So, yeah,

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thank you Spot for sending a little rabbit to our podcast.

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Well let's be well, I know you have a couple

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of exercises that you'd like to share with our listeners

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so that they can work on their animal communication skills.

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Speaker 2: What are you going to teach us? Yeah, so one

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is the humming breath. Humming breath. Okay, the humming breath

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and the humming breath is very good because it sets

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your body into a vibration. So vibration goes through your body,

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runs through your body when we do that, and this

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actually relaxes the body. Yeah, so it's very easy. You

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can do it anywhere. Okay, so you know, like you

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can you can do it when you're walking or whatever.

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So we breathe in. Let's sweet together, we breathe in,

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and then when when we breathe, I'm just hum with

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closed lips. Okay, so let's breathe in mm hmmm.

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Speaker 4: Nice.

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Speaker 2: Nice, And it's like.

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Speaker 6: It's it's it's so interesting because when when you hum,

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your exhalation gets much longer than when you normally inhale.

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Speaker 2: And exhale right right. And what you can also do

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is you can change the range of humming. Okay, the pitch,

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yeah yeah, And and you'll see that the vibration is different.

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If you do a high humming or a low humming,

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the vibration that you feel in your body is going

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to be different. Let's let's try that. Let's story up

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all right, we are we gonna do high or low.

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We start high and go to low. Okay, okay, tell

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us freeze in fun. Did you did you notice the difference? Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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very interesting. I love it. That's very fun. It's very calming.

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It really gets you into your body. You know, it's

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like you can't hum and be in your head at

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the same time. Well maybe you can, but it seems

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it just seems like it really helps you to really

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just be right here right now that in that quiet stillness.

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It's kind of fun to do it with you, you know,

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to kind of harmonize my sound with your sound, so

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we get into that sink. I I have to try

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that with the high school students we work with in

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our Kenines teach Compassion class where the therapy dogs, we'd

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like to do a little relaxation exercises to help them.

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Speaker 3: This this would I like this one because I think

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teenagers could do this without a lot of resistance.

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Speaker 2: So that's oh yeah, yeah, definitely. It's a really good one,

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really good one. So when do you use this timing?

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Do you use it before your sessions or during Yeah,

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you can use and use you can use it. You

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can use it before you do a session, you know,

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before you start your animal communications session, just to you know,

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get into your body, get relaxed and center yourself. So yeah,

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mm hmm, excellent. Okay, great, And what else were you

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gonna show us? I know you're gonna teach us? Okay,

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So the second exercise, don't don't do it along with

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us if you're driving or anything doing anything else because yeah,

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we're gonna have to close your eyes, So don't close

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your eyes if you're behind the wheel, right, Okay, So

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I call it the heart bridge art bridge heart bridge, Yes,

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I say the heart breage exercise. Okay, so you put

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one hand or you can put both hands on your heart,

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close your eyes and breathe deeply a few times, and

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with every breath you relax more and more, and then

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imagine your animal in your heart space. And there it's

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actually very easy for people to imagine their animal in

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their heart space now. And the importance of feeling your

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animal in your heart space and not in your head

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is because you know, according to the Heart Mass Institute,

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they may have made studies on energies, you know, magnetic

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energies on your heart and the brain, and that energy

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is five thousand times stronger when it comes from your

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heart when it comes from your head, So which means

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if you think something, your animal is not going to

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get it. If you feel it, then your animal is

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going to get it. So that's why feel your animal

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in your heart space. And now you connect with your

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animal by melting these two energies together. So when you

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feel your animal and you feel your heart, and then

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you melt both energies together, and then you can stay

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there as long as you want and just melt with

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your animal, and you can communicate with your animal, or

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you can just feel your animal, and maybe your animal

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will give you some messages. The moment you feel your

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in your head again, stop it, you know, put yourself

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back into your heart space. So so important to stay

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in your heart space. Yeah, and when you're ready, thank

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your animal for having been in your heart space. Yes,

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and then you can open your eyes again. Lovely, very

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very lovely, very very simple, very very pleasing. I mean,

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I think that animal communications should be wonderful. I mean,

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of course sometimes we're hearing sad stories and so on,

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but the experience should be very much about the heart space,

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you know, being just receiving and letting the animal come

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into your loving heart space. And yeah, from there, yeah,

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all interests can be heard. That's great, that's great. Yeah.

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You know, I believe that animal communication isn't something we do,

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but it's something we allow.

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Speaker 4: M m.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's wonderful. That's great. Yeah, that's a very nice distinction.

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Instead of like I'm going to do my grocery shopping

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or I'm going to do my taxes, you know, that's

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a doing, but I'm going to allow my animal and

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my heart space and just receive what they would like

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to offer, what they would like to share.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well.

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Speaker 3: We have just a moment or two left. Is there

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one story you want to leave our listeners with that

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will help them to feel joyous about animal communication.

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Speaker 2: Just believe in yourself. I think that's the most important message.

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Believe in yourself. And oh, hold on, Spot just kicks in. Okay, okay,

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we want to hear from Spot. So believe in yourself,

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but believe also in your animal because I have been

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told by the animals that when you doubt what you get,

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you're not doubting yourself, You're doubting the ability of the

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animals to communicate with you. Because let's say you talk

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to a three year old child and you have to

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explain to this three year old child what three apples are?

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So how do you do that? You take an apple,

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put it on a table. Say this is one apple,

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and you take second apple, put it next to the

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first one. Say this is our two apples. Take a

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third apple, put it next to the third, the second,

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the two times. So, yeah, the two apples, and you said,

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these are three apples, one, two, three, three apples. That's

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how you explain it to a three year old? Yeah,

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what three apples are? You don't take a piece of paper,

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write one plus one plus one equals three, and you

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write apples next to it. You don't do that. Why

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don't you do that? Because the three year old cannot

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read and it cannot make any mass. Yes, yes, you

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know how you have to talk to a three year

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old in order for the three year old to understand

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what you are saying to them. M hmmm. We are

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the three year olds in the animal communication. Ah, so

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the animals know how they have to transmit what they

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want to transmit, right right, that's that's a great image.

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We're all three year olds when it comes to animals.

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You know, their ability to communicate is so profound and

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so clear and so easy, so natural, and we at

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our three year old level of awareness have a ways

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to go. We just do, We just do. And you know,

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the three year old doesn't doubt you. The three year

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old believes what you're telling them. Yes, right, So let's

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let's behave like three year old, okay, and believe what

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the animals are telling us. Be innocent, joyous three year

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old children believing, trusting. Yeah, that's great, the joy of that.

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That's lovely, what a lovely conversation. Well, this has been

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entirely delightful Paloma. Where can people find you if they

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want to do a session with you or get to

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know you or learn more about your work. Yeah, they

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can go to wwwspecies space dot com, species space right

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s P E c I E s space dot com.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so that's where to find Palumba Bearcie. She is

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in Switzerland, but you can communicate with her from wherever

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you are, and you do sessions with people all over

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the world. Right, yes, right, great, So that's wonderful.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for being on the Human

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Animal Connection podcast. Thank you for having me. It's us pleasure. Yeah,

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and thank you all for tuning in. We'll see you

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next episode. I love how for now? Fine?

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Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning into The Human Animal Connection Show.

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Please visit our website, the Humananimalconnection dot org. You can

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