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Speaker 6: One of the nominies for best Team is the Dallas Cowboys. No,
Speaker 6: I'm joking obviously, Uh, Dallas Socks go Birds.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 6: Four time w NBA All Star Britney Hicks is here.
Speaker 1: Give it up for Brittany.
Speaker 6: Everybody, I'm uh.
Speaker 5: I'm joking around.
Speaker 1: That's my friend's wife. I knew. None of you knew
Speaker 1: w NBA players. That's crazy.
Speaker 6: You clap for the Travis Hunter won the won the
Speaker 6: Heisman Trophy this year. He's the first defensive player since
Speaker 6: Charles Woodson to win the Heisman. Congratulations Travis Hunter winning
Speaker 6: the Heisman. That's something they can never take away from you,
Speaker 6: unless you kill your wife and a waiter, in which
Speaker 6: case they can take that away from you.
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Speaker 6: See, a lot of you don't like me, and that's okay, that's.
Speaker 1: It for me.
Speaker 6: That went about is exactly how we all thought it
Speaker 6: was going to go.
Speaker 2: I don't know why this happened.
Speaker 6: Joe Rogan actually wanted me to be here to host
Speaker 6: this award show so that I could capture Adam Silver
Speaker 6: because Joe thinks he's an alien, and Donald Trump wanted
Speaker 6: me to be here to capture Juan Soto for the
Speaker 6: same reason.
Speaker 2: It's an alien joke.
Speaker 1: Were bowed up there, dude, Shut up, and that is
Speaker 1: how it goes.
Speaker 8: Last night at the SP's and good morning, and away
Speaker 8: we go from here.
Speaker 1: At SEC Media days one more day here before me.
Speaker 8: Dan Matthews is back with Sean Salisbury and Triple Lee
Speaker 8: Emmanuel Elmore in.
Speaker 1: Our iHeart Radio Houston Studios.
Speaker 8: Sean, I gotta be honest, I didn't watch one minute
Speaker 8: of it last night, but I did see that somebody
Speaker 8: posted the opening monologue of Shane Gillis. You know how
Speaker 8: much of a Shane Gillis fan I am and he killed.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I didn't watch it either. I'm a huge fan of his.
Speaker 9: Good Morning. I've worked at ESPN for twelve years and
Speaker 9: been gone for a while, and I didn't watch it,
Speaker 9: then didn't go then have it now that I'm just
Speaker 9: not an award show guy. But I think he's hilarious.
Speaker 9: I saw some clips this morning, and you heard something there.
Speaker 9: I think he's extremely funny. I think it's classic when
Speaker 9: he goes after politicians and athletes, all of it. It's comedy, folks,
Speaker 9: no matter where you sit laugh. We've lost that, So
Speaker 9: I'm all for it anytime you want to give me
Speaker 9: Shane Gillis, and I love Sometimes the jokes hit, sometimes
Speaker 9: they don't, but anytime you can make fun of people
Speaker 9: that are there and slavergn all over themselves, which we
Speaker 9: see all the time at award shows, and rightfully, so
Speaker 9: I'm all in. I think Shane Gillis is hilarious and
Speaker 9: he can host it anytime he wants, because, uh, good
Speaker 9: comedians don't back off.
Speaker 2: And worry about what people are gonna say.
Speaker 9: So, yeah, I didn't see it, but I saw the
Speaker 9: clips and I think he's pretty funny.
Speaker 1: See.
Speaker 8: I'm the same way with Awards shows too, because it's
Speaker 8: a bunch of people who always get praise and notoriety
Speaker 8: that are seeking more praise and notoriety and it's just like,
Speaker 8: all right, come on, like enough of your getting over yourself,
Speaker 8: Like you need to get over yourself, Like stop stop
Speaker 8: like looking at every turn for us to be like,
Speaker 8: oh look how great these people are.
Speaker 9: And here's the problem is it? Is it celerity. They
Speaker 9: are great, you know, going on Twitter and and you
Speaker 9: know politicians and celebrities and ripping everybody else and telling them.
Speaker 9: I mean, what in a time in our country, think
Speaker 9: about it when politicians on both sides, I don't care
Speaker 9: who it is, When governors and presidents and congress people
Speaker 9: are fighting on Twitter. I mean, can you add Ronald
Speaker 9: reg Yeah, let's go fight on Twitter. I mean it's
Speaker 9: it's it's absurd. They're like a bunch of twelve year olds,
Speaker 9: all of them, and athletes fight among each other this
Speaker 9: and that. I think anytime you can get a good
Speaker 9: comedian gill Us or back in Carlin or Prior's days,
Speaker 9: that can just get on them and they need a
Speaker 9: little humble pie. It's perfect way. It should be a roast.
Speaker 9: And that's what it is. Ward show, Come get your award.
Speaker 9: We have award shows like every five days in sports
Speaker 9: and music and acting and all of it, you know what,
Speaker 9: every now and then, Yeah, you're exactly get out of
Speaker 9: your own way. Let people laugh with you, because that's
Speaker 9: about the only chance we get a chance to do
Speaker 9: it because everybody's so sensitive. You know what, you got
Speaker 9: your Person of the Year, your athlete, of the year.
Speaker 9: It's okay for him to say something that has to
Speaker 9: do with race. It's okay something has to do with religion.
Speaker 9: It's okay to make fun of the president. It's okay
Speaker 9: to imitate the president. It's okay to make fun of
Speaker 9: any of us. It's called comedy for a reason. And
Speaker 9: anybody that can't handle it, don't show up to a
Speaker 9: ward shows. If you're that soft, don't show up to
Speaker 9: a ward show. So people complain, what do you want
Speaker 9: to do? Because if you go up there and you're boring,
Speaker 9: then we'll all say, we will that that's not any good.
Speaker 9: So deal with you give me him or what's my
Speaker 9: other guy who roasted him at the t the the
Speaker 9: the what's Ricky Gervais. I'll take those two all day,
Speaker 9: every day. And if you can't laugh yourself over all this,
Speaker 9: we got enough going on. It's called comedy for a reason.
Speaker 9: They need to get over themselves. And when you see
Speaker 9: reactions and people are laughing or they're offended, you know what,
Speaker 9: that's on you. And if you don't like it, you
Speaker 9: do have the choice to take that tux off or
Speaker 9: suit off and go home. You'll get over it and regardless,
Speaker 9: so that I don't ever get offended when a comedian
Speaker 9: isn't making fun of me or making fun of somebody else.
Speaker 2: It's a good thing and they need it well.
Speaker 8: And it's also too I think I've said this saying
Speaker 8: on air before. Have sports people work in sports, and
Speaker 8: Gillis is a big sports fan. So I mean, if
Speaker 8: he was going to tailor some of his jokes last
Speaker 8: night and be able to have a good hit rate
Speaker 8: on them, I feel like he was the right guy
Speaker 8: to be able to do that because who was it
Speaker 8: for years that you used to host the Academy Awards
Speaker 8: when Billy Crystal, but like Crystal was safe, like Crystal was.
Speaker 2: Needy, hosted them forever.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he was not going to offend the collective there
Speaker 8: in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: He was going to kiss the.
Speaker 9: Ass, Yeah, and he did. He's a very funny, good guy.
Speaker 9: But if you're standing up there, you're not supposed to
Speaker 9: be up there to tell everybody everything they want to hear.
Speaker 9: They're going to be told that when everybody's brown knows
Speaker 9: and when they get their award nominations are funny. You
Speaker 9: should be able to laugh the best ones make fun
Speaker 9: of them. And I'll guarant ask to you every time.
Speaker 9: There's a lot of those those celebrities that don't even
Speaker 9: like Ricky Gervas anymore because he made fun of Hollywood
Speaker 9: at a time when they should be made fun of
Speaker 9: because they're absurd. Okay, And the same thing here Shane Gillis. Listen,
Speaker 9: you don't need the approval of an ESPN audience to
Speaker 9: still be a great comedian. So I don't know, I
Speaker 9: don't know what the talk is about his performance because,
Speaker 9: like I said, I didn't see the full thing. But oh,
Speaker 9: I'm sure plenty were offended, but they'll get over it. White, black, female,
Speaker 9: male athlete, non athlete, executive, non executive.
Speaker 2: When you put a.
Speaker 9: Guy like Shane Gillis on stage, you better understand what
Speaker 9: you getting.
Speaker 2: And to me, it's laughs.
Speaker 9: And the more offend, the more you can offend people
Speaker 9: and have them go, oh my gosh, that's unbelievable, and
Speaker 9: the more we can relate to it, it's good. It
Speaker 9: is comedy. It is a show, and it's every year
Speaker 9: we go through this on Awards. Just man, that guy
Speaker 9: was too harsh, So that good. You know what, Let
Speaker 9: it rip. That's why you're there. And if you can't
Speaker 9: laugh at yourself, then you probably in the wrong business
Speaker 9: and the need to take two weeks off and quit
Speaker 9: and go do something else.
Speaker 8: Yeah, So that was the SP's last night and Shane Gillis,
Speaker 8: as far as I could tell, he absolutely killed that
Speaker 8: Travis Hunter joke was so good. I mean, I understand
Speaker 8: the delivery of it too, especially you know, I thought
Speaker 8: about this morning where I was like, I gotta believe
Speaker 8: the Golden In family is not going to really appreciate,
Speaker 8: you know, just how he referenced their son. But I mean,
Speaker 8: just the joke itself, it killed and the cowboys won.
Speaker 1: He did a great job.
Speaker 9: But I'll tell you this when it comes to the
Speaker 9: you know, the the families of that that's not the
Speaker 9: first time that joke's been told. You do know that
Speaker 9: that that joke was years ago when a comedian said
Speaker 9: it said, oh yeah, when he killed his wife and
Speaker 9: a waiter that that that that that joke. You go
Speaker 9: back and look, that's not the first time that's ever
Speaker 9: been used. I've heard that joke. That that joke's twenty
Speaker 9: years old. He used it, and I don't know how
Speaker 9: many people realize, but that that wasn't the first time
Speaker 9: when he said it. I said, oh, yeah, that's familiar.
Speaker 9: So that that was, that was somebody else's years ago.
Speaker 9: Now I don't know if he knows that, but that
Speaker 9: was that was delivered a long time ago, a long
Speaker 9: time ago. So but you know what, I'm sure they
Speaker 9: won't appreciate it. But once again, unfortunately, while it may hurt,
Speaker 9: comedians are held to a different standard. And quite frankly,
Speaker 9: you know, and if you don't want the guy who cusses,
Speaker 9: then you you go go to a you got to
Speaker 9: go to Christian comedy, I guess. But when you hire
Speaker 9: that guy, what do you expect? What do you think
Speaker 9: you're getting? What do you think you're getting when you
Speaker 9: put Ricky Gervais on stage with a bunch of people
Speaker 9: that look in the mirror and and and think that
Speaker 9: that they well kind of invented the earth and that
Speaker 9: everything was centered around them, and last night with Shan Gillison,
Speaker 9: if you want to do that, they'd go hire somebody
Speaker 9: who bores you to death and isn't willing to offend
Speaker 9: somebody coming out of these shows. You should you should
Speaker 9: say be laugh and say damn, somebody's going to be offended.
Speaker 2: Even though somebody shouldn't be.
Speaker 9: But I understand the Goldman family, but that's not the
Speaker 9: first time that that's not the first time that family's hurt.
Speaker 9: It because it was harsh and unfortunate and change the life.
Speaker 9: I get it. But comedians just there, they're hell do
Speaker 9: a different standard.
Speaker 2: They are. You can be offended.
Speaker 9: Matter of fact, the more offended you get a lot
Speaker 9: of times, the more successful the comedian is. Just like
Speaker 9: on Twitter, the more stupidity and hot takes you make.
Speaker 9: Look at turn on your TV on your sports show,
Speaker 9: people who don't actually know what they're talking about, but
Speaker 9: as long as it's a hot take, their click click, click, click,
Speaker 9: click and get it ooh, get paid more. We're not
Speaker 9: at a time when in credible media or a credible
Speaker 9: credible takes are the take over the world. We're at
Speaker 9: a time when the hotter take it is, the more
Speaker 9: fighting and arguing you can do, the more wealth people
Speaker 9: will come to you. It's a novel concept to you know,
Speaker 9: probably do the right thing. But when it comes to
Speaker 9: comedians there I like, when there's no rules for comedians,
Speaker 9: it'll never bother me, don't care. I understand if you're
Speaker 9: the Goldman family, but you know, what you should probably
Speaker 9: understand in a sports event even then, because that I
Speaker 9: grew I was in LA at the time. All that
Speaker 9: stuff you know, went on, I mean meaning a lot
Speaker 9: of the Al Collings and the whole thing that went on.
Speaker 9: They have to know that this probably best is somebody
Speaker 9: I just don't turn on the comedy.
Speaker 2: Don't turn on a.
Speaker 9: Comedian when it's at a sports show because you know, somewhere,
Speaker 9: somehow his name always gets brought up.
Speaker 2: Somewhere, does O. J. Simpson.
Speaker 9: So it's it sucks, But comedy is what it is.
Speaker 9: And you know, you don't have to go to a
Speaker 9: comedy show and you don't have to turn on your TV.
Speaker 9: If you're there, you know what you're getting it. If
Speaker 9: you hired him, don't come back and be offended by it. Okay,
Speaker 9: that's what medians do, and if they don't, then the
Speaker 9: show's probably pretty boring.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I mean especially to you talked about the
Speaker 8: Jervaise one earlier. That was really timely because that was
Speaker 8: also coming right out of COVID, I believe, and that
Speaker 8: was when people were just over celebrities of the whole.
Speaker 8: You know, hey, stay home, we're all in this together.
Speaker 8: It's like, you're not in this together with me. You're
Speaker 8: in your palatial little mansion there in the Hollywood Hills
Speaker 8: and you're telling me that I can't go to work.
Speaker 8: Screw you, dude, Like, no, I'm not in this with you.
Speaker 8: You're you're in it with somebody else with me.
Speaker 9: It was a farce. Then it's a farce now, So
Speaker 9: well do we can move on from that? But you know,
Speaker 9: good on Shane Gillis, get some laughs, and well you'll
Speaker 9: know if they don't invite him back next year, guess what.
Speaker 2: I'll probably tell you that, well, we had too much
Speaker 2: backlash and too many people.
Speaker 9: Friend, that's exactly if if you don't invite, if you're
Speaker 9: not inviting back because too may pe, you're like, wow,
Speaker 9: you probably should invite him back. But if you walk
Speaker 9: into a show like that and that guy's hosting it
Speaker 9: and I love him, I think he's hilarious. If he
Speaker 9: offends you, well you're probably gonna have to get over it.
Speaker 9: And I doubt he's gonna give you an apology if
Speaker 9: you hurt your feelings, and most comedians don't nor should they.
Speaker 8: No now for sure, and he's gonna be in Houston.
Speaker 8: He's actually gonna be over at Toyota Center here in September,
Speaker 8: so I might have to duck over there and check
Speaker 8: him out. But anyway, as I mentioned one more day
Speaker 8: here in Atlanta at SEC Media Days, and then also
Speaker 8: too where one more day away from as our Sports
Speaker 8: Talk seven ninety Twitter account put one more day away
Speaker 8: from Astros season two point zero. So we'll get into
Speaker 8: that as the show goes along. The British Open happening
Speaker 8: right now over at Royal Port Rush a couple of
Speaker 8: guys at the top of the leader board. Jacob scove
Speaker 8: Olison is one of the leaders and also a throwback.
Speaker 8: Lee Westwood also top of the lead at four unders.
Speaker 8: So we'll get into the conversation. But speaking of the Astros,
Speaker 8: it is an incredibly important for one particular Astro. Will
Speaker 8: tell you exactly why, as we're just getting started to
Speaker 8: hear on a Thursday on the Sean Salisbury show Sports
Speaker 8: Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1: But Sean, I mentioned it the other day lunch, it's gonna.
Speaker 8: Be right here before you know it today, and I
Speaker 8: think me and you both know a great spot if you're.
Speaker 1: On the fence for lunch this afternoon.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I would imagine that if you're wise, you'd go
Speaker 9: to jbar and Barbecue. And I don't care where you are,
Speaker 9: it's worth your drive, whether there's an event going on
Speaker 9: or not. But we know when the Astros or the
Speaker 9: Rockets are in town or there's a convention right over
Speaker 9: there at twenty two oh one Leland. Best menu and
Speaker 9: the best uh well, the best food with that menu.
Speaker 9: That matches when you go into a place you have expectations, Well,
Speaker 9: when the expectations of the taste of the food and
Speaker 9: the customer service exceed.
Speaker 2: What you thought going in.
Speaker 9: That's happened to me first on first time I went
Speaker 9: in there said okay, barbecue's barbecue here and teg we
Speaker 9: have a lot of great barbecue. And then you walk
Speaker 9: through the line and get what you want and grab
Speaker 9: yourself to jalapeno cheddar sausage or some mac and cheese
Speaker 9: or some brisket, and then you sit down you realize, well,
Speaker 9: while it's melting in my mouth, I realized, no, not
Speaker 9: all barbecue is the same, and it's sure as hell isn't.
Speaker 9: From there it's the best you got the Hall of
Speaker 9: Fame menu indoor outdoor. You have great facility and parking,
Speaker 9: so it is, and you know they can host what
Speaker 9: three hundred people, You can have a private party there.
Speaker 9: Everything about Jbarm Barbecue says they care and they're special.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean the brisket's elite as you just mentioned,
Speaker 8: the julapeno chutter sausage, the sides, the same deal. And
Speaker 8: you don't even have to just go straight barbecue at
Speaker 8: Jbarm Barbecue. When you go to twenty two oh one
Speaker 8: Leland Streets, you can go a brisket burger, Yes, sir,
Speaker 8: let's do that. Maybe even some pretzel bites with some
Speaker 8: queso to dip it in. Yep, that's in play too.
Speaker 8: And another thing is when you step in the Jbarm
Speaker 8: Barbecue Sean, I mean, the smell gets to you immediately.
Speaker 8: You're like, oh, this is gonna be really really good. Yeah,
Speaker 8: and you see Hoffee and the crew there, always greeding
Speaker 8: for a great time.
Speaker 9: Yeah, always greed in the pitt master as well as
Speaker 9: the thing I love too is you know you can
Speaker 9: eat what Joe Spotty likes to you.
Speaker 2: Did you know the Joe's Spot of Hall of Fame menu?
Speaker 9: But what I do love is that the man who
Speaker 9: owns it, mister Toomey, he's what ninety six years old?
Speaker 9: Is there most every day now that when you see
Speaker 9: him there grind and it tells you he's there because well,
Speaker 9: I means hell, he's lived a life one hundred of
Speaker 9: us want to live and he's still there making sure
Speaker 9: you get it done right.
Speaker 2: Great food. You got to go into Jbarn Barbecue twenty
Speaker 2: two on one Leland.
Speaker 8: There you go, jbr M Barbecue, lunch, dinner, anytime. It's
Speaker 8: always a hit. Jbr M Barbecue twenty two to one
Speaker 8: Leland Street. Stop by today, let's go.
Speaker 5: This is this Sean Salisbury show.
Speaker 8: You're kind of like, oh, yeah, not every place is
Speaker 8: like Houston on the surface of the sun.
Speaker 9: Yeah, well it's not. Also, it's I don't think they
Speaker 9: look at that as their summer. They're not in season
Speaker 9: like we are here summertime. So I got a buddy
Speaker 9: who's a member at bally Bunyon, which is a top
Speaker 9: ten core in the world, and they go every August
Speaker 9: and get invited every one of the years' One of
Speaker 9: these years, I'm gonna take two weeks off and go
Speaker 9: with them. They play all kinds of course, but he's
Speaker 9: remember at Valley Bunying about fifteen twenty guys go and
Speaker 9: it's it's raining. They go play and they have a blast,
Speaker 9: they drink beer, but just how you play it. And
Speaker 9: they go in August the same thing you're playing, and
Speaker 9: it'll wind and umbrellas and sweaters and rain jackets. So
Speaker 9: it's a great test, true test man. Better hit the
Speaker 9: ball low, and you better be able to be a
Speaker 9: great iron player if you're gonna play here. Not even
Speaker 9: a great putter, I mean good putter, but the unele.
Speaker 9: You got to hit it close and you've got to
Speaker 9: give yourself a chance because it's it's a problem. But uh,
Speaker 9: and it's cold. So it's a true test of golf.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 9: It's a if you don't have creativity at a British Open,
Speaker 9: then you will you will not win this. But you
Speaker 9: keep an eye on John Rahm, Brooks Koepka obviously, the
Speaker 9: guys like Lowry who's won here before, and and uh
Speaker 9: Rory McElroy and there will always be somebody. But Matt
Speaker 9: Fitzpatrick I think he's yeah, he's on. I think he's
Speaker 9: at two underpar. Those guys. Uh, and it's it's it's
Speaker 9: tough the the the Americans have it different. They don't usually,
Speaker 9: you know, I mean the Tom Watson's in the world.
Speaker 2: He won five of these.
Speaker 9: It's hard to play this type of golf because normally, oh,
Speaker 9: you're around the green, get a lob wedge and just
Speaker 9: flip it in there. So and of course Scheffler is
Speaker 9: going to be around because he's as good iron players
Speaker 9: if it is in the world. So you better hit
Speaker 9: great irons, and you better you better have be able
Speaker 9: to adjust your ball flight and uh, and these guys will.
Speaker 9: But I love the test because you're looking at him
Speaker 9: there and vests and hoodies and stuff, and uh, there'll
Speaker 9: be a lot of bogies, but there'll be a lot
Speaker 9: of great uh you know, wow factor shots and stuff.
Speaker 9: And I can't wait to see how it unfolds. I
Speaker 9: love this and that's what I'll be doing for four
Speaker 9: straight days when uh, when off, just watch watch watch
Speaker 9: this golf and see how they handle it.
Speaker 2: Be cool. I love this.
Speaker 1: This is where you need to hit the stinger.
Speaker 9: This this is regularly that's exactly right. And you better,
Speaker 9: you better be able to high ball hitters will struggle
Speaker 9: here and high ball hitters and last time they played
Speaker 9: at this golf course or the last time. It was
Speaker 9: won by Shane Lowry.
Speaker 2: Here he.
Speaker 9: I think was greens in regulation he hit more greens
Speaker 9: or I had great iron play. So when you do
Speaker 9: that and keep it play and have a chance put
Speaker 9: it on at the short grass in the fairway from
Speaker 9: a stinger and then hit it somewhere on the green
Speaker 9: and be able to lag, well you'll be fine. I
Speaker 9: don't think there's a lot of I know, I don't
Speaker 9: think this is a twenty under par golf course this
Speaker 9: next four days. So it's going to test everything you've
Speaker 9: got and I can't wait to see it.
Speaker 8: Yep, definitely, so so a lot of early morning golf
Speaker 8: for us to be able to watch here the next
Speaker 8: few days.
Speaker 1: I mentioned the day was a huge day for one
Speaker 1: particular astro.
Speaker 8: If you remember Sean Monday's show, we played a little
Speaker 8: bit of audio from astros g Dina Brown where he
Speaker 8: had said that today was going to be jord On
Speaker 8: at meeting with doctors, probably going to do it over zoom,
Speaker 8: but going to meet with them, and then they're hopeful
Speaker 8: that they get a good result from said meeting with
Speaker 8: the doctors and then.
Speaker 1: Maybe he can start swinging.
Speaker 8: And I mean, as we had heard earlier in the
Speaker 8: week no audio this time, but earlier in the week
Speaker 8: Dana Brown saying that they would also like to expedite
Speaker 8: the process of getting at Jordan Alvarez back. That last
Speaker 8: part kind of gives me a little bit of caution,
Speaker 8: does it not?
Speaker 1: You?
Speaker 9: Yeah, but what's xpite expedite? We're pushing ninety days? Well,
Speaker 9: what's what's what's expedite? We're past x expedite. They tried
Speaker 9: that and not saying for Dana, but they tried that
Speaker 9: and then they had to redo it. I mean, they
Speaker 9: had to shut him down. So and I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 9: maybe I'm naive, but I don't know a zoom call.
Speaker 9: What what's a zoom call going to do? Hey, how
Speaker 9: do you feel? I feel great? Okay, we'll see you Friday.
Speaker 8: Mean I would say that's pretty much it. Hey, shake
Speaker 8: that guy's hand right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw.
Speaker 9: I don't know the protocol they're going to go through
Speaker 9: to get him ready, and I do know this, it'd
Speaker 9: be great to have him back when it does. But
Speaker 9: expediting the process comes down to me. It's real simple.
Speaker 9: Do the images say he's one hundred percent cure healthy?
Speaker 9: Meaning is is it healed. And if it's one hundred
Speaker 9: percent healed, then you look at him and say you're
Speaker 9: cleared to go. If it's eighty five percent healed, you
Speaker 9: can't expedite that. That's been tried before and it'll linger
Speaker 9: all year long. I'm not a doctor, but my gut
Speaker 9: tells me when a guy's been out almost ninety days,
Speaker 9: you better wait till he's one hundred percent healthy, because
Speaker 9: then it's now we're in the precious time that if
Speaker 9: he has a setback again, you're not going to see
Speaker 9: him until the playoffs. If you're lucky, say, can't afford
Speaker 9: a setback. So when that, when that, when that picture
Speaker 9: says he's healed, he can go now, no.
Speaker 2: Risk of hurting him more. Now it's just strengthening it.
Speaker 9: And it's and a pain, a threshold pain thing, a pain,
Speaker 9: how he can handle it, then you're good to go.
Speaker 9: So I'm not a doctor, but it appears this deep
Speaker 9: endto it that I would make sure that it's he's
Speaker 9: one hundred percent ready to go and healthy, and then
Speaker 9: how he feels from there. But if the images say
Speaker 9: he's good to go, now, you got to put it
Speaker 9: on him. Say how much can you handle, and if
Speaker 9: he I can hand all of it, let's go play.
Speaker 9: Then you get him his assignment, and whether it's in
Speaker 9: the major leagues or whether it's live batting practice where
Speaker 9: it's going down to triple A and let's get it rolling,
Speaker 9: I'll I'm going to reserve and hold my excitement in
Speaker 9: silence until I see the full result, because I go
Speaker 9: in thinking he's not ready, and if he's ready, it's
Speaker 9: a bonus because it's it's been there's been a lot
Speaker 9: of disappointments along this road, and as a team, you
Speaker 9: can't predict when a guy's going to be ready to go.
Speaker 9: But if the image is clear, then it comes down
Speaker 9: to how are you good? And how's how are you
Speaker 9: meaning you're down, and then we'll let it rip and
Speaker 9: see what happens. But I don't think this is a
Speaker 9: he's eighty five percent, let's go, he feels good. Probably
Speaker 9: a little too dangerous right now when you're three months in.
Speaker 9: It's taken a lot longer we expected, so I'm not
Speaker 9: sure what expedit what we're expediting now, other than getting
Speaker 9: back on the field when he's healthy.
Speaker 8: Well, and that's the key part right there. When he's healthy,
Speaker 8: because I think people are wondering if he's going to
Speaker 8: be healthy, And you touched on a little bit, but
Speaker 8: I mean there's kind of a feeling for me Sean
Speaker 8: that if he comes back and the same deal again,
Speaker 8: all we got to shut him down at that point.
Speaker 8: If you're the Astros, don't you have to think about
Speaker 8: just saying twenty twenty five just isn't in the cards
Speaker 8: for us with this guy.
Speaker 9: Well, from my vantage point, if they shut him down again,
Speaker 9: you're not seeing him anymore now unless you get the
Speaker 9: hey man, he's going to be fully healthy. Of course,
Speaker 9: you'll continue the path the rehab. You're not going to
Speaker 9: all of a sudden sa he's done for the year,
Speaker 9: because you don't want fan base to oh my gosh,
Speaker 9: because they imagine the fallout from that. But then you
Speaker 9: just say, hey man, we're still working on it. It's
Speaker 9: been a process, it's been re injured, we'll reevaluate it.
Speaker 9: We've got to take some time off, and it doesn't
Speaker 9: look good for anytime soon, So that that's my concern.
Speaker 9: But yes, if you have to shut him down again
Speaker 9: or he's not good to go, I don't I mean,
Speaker 9: we're already fourteen days or fifteen days away from August,
Speaker 9: I mean, and I would imagine, iagine how the season goes.
Speaker 9: Would it would also dictate, well, where are we, Well,
Speaker 9: we're ten games in front, Jordan's not quite healthy yet,
Speaker 9: what's the rush and there you know, ninety days or
Speaker 9: whatever it's been already. I'm not sure we're worried about
Speaker 9: it being rushed now. But yeah, if you have to
Speaker 9: shut him down again, I would imagine there's probably a
Speaker 9: pretty good chance if you're shutting him down again that
Speaker 9: that would be you're shutting him down and if we're fortunate,
Speaker 9: you get him in the postseason. We're in We're we
Speaker 9: at seventy games, sixty some games left, ninety six so
Speaker 9: ninety six so so that'd be sixty two to one
Speaker 9: hundred and sixty six games? Is it left to play
Speaker 9: sixty six games? By the end of this month, there'll
Speaker 9: be what fourteen or fifteen more down whatever it is,
Speaker 9: fourteen more and then you're now you're in August, and
Speaker 9: now you're inside. You're at fifty. So you get him
Speaker 9: when you can get him, and it's a blessing when
Speaker 9: you do.
Speaker 2: But I'll wait to see.
Speaker 9: I'll wait until I get to see it and know
Speaker 9: he's in uniform ready to roll. But it's a very
Speaker 9: slippery slope and I'm sure they're being very cautious. Yet
Speaker 9: would like him on the field because of the frustration,
Speaker 9: and obviously you.
Speaker 1: Need him for sure.
Speaker 8: Seven two five, seven ninety is the number to get
Speaker 8: in on the phone lines. Will continue the Astros conversation
Speaker 8: because while this is looked at as being a strength,
Speaker 8: there is a glaring weakness when it comes to this
Speaker 8: part of the Astros. In twenty twenty five, will discuss
Speaker 8: that here as we're just getting going on a Thursday,
Speaker 8: Sports Talk seven ninety the seven ninety listener line in
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Speaker 8: eight hundred. Car Cash talked a lot about Jordan Alvarez.
Speaker 8: That seems like he is going to be a key
Speaker 8: to how Dana Brown and tries to navigate the trade deadline.
Speaker 8: It's gonna be coming up here in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 8: But you've also heard me numerous times talk about my
Speaker 8: concern with the pitching staff and Chandler Rome of the
Speaker 8: Athletic putting out a good piece yesterday of second half storylines.
Speaker 8: Trade deadline everything else as part of the athletic and
Speaker 8: he had mentioned that the Astros this year were an
Speaker 8: even five h under it in games that were not
Speaker 8: started by either Hunter Brown or from ber Valdez, and
Speaker 8: the group that was fronted by Colton Gordon, Brandon Walter,
Speaker 8: Ryan Gusto and Lance mccullors Junior have as a combined
Speaker 8: group a first half era of four point eight seven.
Speaker 8: So you also have to wonder if Dana Brown it
Speaker 8: comes down to one or the other and he has
Speaker 8: a chance to upgrade at the pitching staff, I think
Speaker 8: that you probably know where he's gonna go.
Speaker 9: Well, maybe we've overrated the starting pitching staff a little
Speaker 9: past the first two when you look at those numbers
Speaker 9: that Rome put up, and I don't mean that disrespectful
Speaker 9: to them, but we be like, man, they've stepped up. Yeah,
Speaker 9: you could use Javier and Garcia if as possible, or
Speaker 9: somebody out there. There's no doubt, and you know, an
Speaker 9: ar pushing five and they're a five hundred team without
Speaker 9: those first two starting on the mound. Now there's other things.
Speaker 9: It's not just him, because there are games when they've
Speaker 9: done a good job and this team has not scored
Speaker 9: it's a reflection of that as well, and at times, unfortunately,
Speaker 9: if they give up three or four runs, that's enough
Speaker 9: to beat the Astros. That's been enough to beat the
Speaker 9: Astros at times this year. Yet they're batting average, you know,
Speaker 9: up until a week or so before, and may still be.
Speaker 9: I haven't looked recently. It was what didn't top three
Speaker 9: in the league. I mean they still It's not just
Speaker 9: the batting average, it's getting runs across the plate in
Speaker 9: key moments. And you know that you can win a
Speaker 9: game three to two or two to one with Brown
Speaker 9: and Fromber because well, they're going to keep it low
Speaker 9: for the most part, most of the time and give
Speaker 9: you six innings, maybe seven innings. The other guys, wal
Speaker 9: Grinding and a couple of them were not expected to
Speaker 9: even be in this role this year have done a
Speaker 9: good job. But I don't think they can sustain just
Speaker 9: those two guys because the burden on the bullpen, which
Speaker 9: has been outstanding for the most part this year, becomes
Speaker 9: a bigger burden to carry. Let's put it right where
Speaker 9: we need to. Here's the things you have to do
Speaker 9: in the second half. Get healthy. Two, you better score
Speaker 9: more runs. You just better score more runs. And this
Speaker 9: is to a team that's you know, that's in first
Speaker 9: place by what a half a dozen games or so
Speaker 9: five six games?
Speaker 2: Now what a six games or five games?
Speaker 9: Five games in front, you have to go in one
Speaker 9: in five just before the All Star breaks.
Speaker 2: So you got to score more runs.
Speaker 9: You gotta get healthy, and you have to go get
Speaker 9: If you have two needs, you have to get a
Speaker 9: power bat. They need more home they need to drive
Speaker 9: the ball more, probably hopefully from the left hand side.
Speaker 9: But you know those aren't exactly guys that the people
Speaker 9: are given away, and you're gonna have to be better three,
Speaker 9: four and five pitching staff, you just are. So if
Speaker 9: those numbers, if we're if this is an analytics in
Speaker 9: the numbers type team, which it is, then that pitching
Speaker 9: staff posts the first two starting you're gonna need some
Speaker 9: help and hope that none of those guys get banged up.
Speaker 9: You're gonna have to get healthy, and you're just gonna
Speaker 9: have to be more explosive on offense.
Speaker 2: You just are.
Speaker 9: And if not, then you know you go and win
Speaker 9: a division.
Speaker 1: Great.
Speaker 9: The question is for me, are they gonna get through
Speaker 9: the regular season? No, that's not the question. The question
Speaker 9: is when you get into the postseason, do you have
Speaker 9: enough horses to not only on the mound, but at
Speaker 9: the plate. And obviously you're not using six starters when
Speaker 9: you get a certain part of the postseason, obviously, but
Speaker 9: you're gonna need that to get there and have some
Speaker 9: cushion and rest down the stretch. You're gonna have to
Speaker 9: get healthy, and you're gonna have to score more runs.
Speaker 9: You just are and you're gonna have to do it,
Speaker 9: and you're gonna have to get a little more power
Speaker 9: in the lineup that is driving the ball. But health
Speaker 9: will be first. They I'll be shocked if there's not
Speaker 9: a deal done, and I'm actually more app to think
Speaker 9: it'll be a bigger deal than the smaller one now
Speaker 9: as we go on after what I saw six games
Speaker 9: going in, it's not panic, but you have to do
Speaker 9: everything in your power as an organization. Gim it's the
Speaker 9: job every year. My job's not to get my team
Speaker 9: ready to play in twenty thirty. If I'm a front
Speaker 9: office and Dana and Joe Espada and Jim Crane, all
Speaker 9: of them, their job is to get the team ready
Speaker 9: to play and take this lead and extend it and
Speaker 9: be ready to go. If you're if they think they're
Speaker 9: a World Series type team, you're gonna have to make
Speaker 9: more a move or more than one here in the
Speaker 9: next couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: You just are and or you're.
Speaker 9: You're throwing caution to the win and saying, Okay, let's
Speaker 9: see if we have enough. It's like a race car
Speaker 9: driver and say, man, we've got ten laps to go.
Speaker 9: You want to come in and pit Naw, I'm gonna
Speaker 9: I think I can finish on these tires. So you
Speaker 9: got to ask yourself, is it a pit stop we
Speaker 9: got the lead, Is it a long pit stop or
Speaker 9: is it a pit stop? Or am I going to
Speaker 9: stay on these tires and keep this lead and get
Speaker 9: across the finish line so I have a chance to
Speaker 9: be playing for the for the Cup Championship in NASCAR,
Speaker 9: the Cup Series Championship.
Speaker 2: So that's that's where this is. Got a five game lead.
Speaker 9: But I wouldn't imagine we're all too comfortable with that,
Speaker 9: knowing the lineup, that the pitching that you're gonna face
Speaker 9: in your own division, and that the that the Mariners
Speaker 9: and the and the Rangers are looming. Five's nice better
Speaker 9: to be five up than five down. But are you
Speaker 9: making a pit stop? Which is the trade deadline? And
Speaker 9: how big is it you need? I mean, you always
Speaker 9: change all four tires, but how bald are they? Or
Speaker 9: can you finish this run with what you got on
Speaker 9: those tires? That's what they have to ask themselves. Is
Speaker 9: it a small one or a big one? I'm starting
Speaker 9: to tend to think it's going to be bigger than smaller.
Speaker 9: If they're not going to if they don't see their
Speaker 9: team getting healthy anytime soon, well, I.
Speaker 8: Mean, I think that's also to the point you just
Speaker 8: finished off with there, that's going to be the indicator
Speaker 8: because at least from what we hear from the guys
Speaker 8: that are currently working in West Palm Beach or even
Speaker 8: guys like Jordan, that there is a path to return.
Speaker 1: At least they're leaving us to believe that that's the case.
Speaker 8: But I mean, to your point, Sean, you see them
Speaker 8: swing for the fences and say that is a Ryan
Speaker 8: O'Hearn or that is not a back end of the
Speaker 8: rotation guy. Maybe somebody that can, you know, you can
Speaker 8: feature in the middle of your rotation, maybe even jumps
Speaker 8: into you know, top two guys there you're able to
Speaker 8: split fromber and Hunter right there. I think if you
Speaker 8: do that, then yeah, that probably shows you. Oh yeah, hey,
Speaker 8: how and those guys aren't coming back, are they?
Speaker 9: Okay, let me ask you this, what's the exact trade
Speaker 9: deadline date?
Speaker 1: I think?
Speaker 9: First, okay, so the end of the we got you
Speaker 9: to fifteen days, about right, somewhere in the fifteen to
Speaker 9: twenty days, so it should regardless of the exact moment,
Speaker 9: we'll get to that. So let's just say fifteen days,
Speaker 9: fifteen days. I'm sorry, Triple you were in my would
Speaker 9: you say, buddy thirty first? Okay, thank you? July three,
Speaker 9: So there you go. So today's the seventeenth. So there
Speaker 9: you go. You have fourteen days. All right, So let
Speaker 9: me let me pose this question, and I'll pose it
Speaker 9: to our audience too, because we've got great listeners, are you,
Speaker 9: and great insight on their astros.
Speaker 2: What if there's do you think there's.
Speaker 9: Going to be any change in the lineup health wise
Speaker 9: in the next two weeks? Jordn Payna Garcia JP France.
Speaker 9: I'm just going no, he's not come back, Spencer Araghetty.
Speaker 9: Right now, I mean, let's roll. Obviously, wez Nesky's not.
Speaker 9: I mean, but those in the next two weeks, maybe
Speaker 9: Chas McCormick. But I'm just saying, any of those guys
Speaker 9: you think are gonna be starting on the mound, or
Speaker 9: at least in Triple A in their rehab assignment, or
Speaker 9: back on the big league roster between now and July
Speaker 9: thirty first, I'm asking you a question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just thinking about it.
Speaker 9: No, okay, No, Then then if they're not ready by
Speaker 9: July thirty first, and we're real well we're gonna find
Speaker 9: out about the injuries and the trade deadline, then aren't
Speaker 9: you saying to yourself, if we're all in, I can't
Speaker 9: risk that they're not gonna be ready. Now, somebody says, well,
Speaker 9: they won't be ready by the first, but there's a
Speaker 9: chance they'll be ready by the tenth, and then maybe
Speaker 9: you don't make a big trade, but a chance.
Speaker 2: Are you willing to chance that chance? So the question I.
Speaker 9: Have is, if they're not back by July thirty first,
Speaker 9: and now we're into August and the trade dead lie
Speaker 9: passes and maybe they're setbacks, maybe they're not. You don't
Speaker 9: know that they're going to be ready. In psych man
Speaker 9: Payna's going to be two more weeks. This guy's going
Speaker 9: to be another week and a half. A Jake Myers
Speaker 9: is going to be in a With that in mind,
Speaker 9: do you take the risk and say, I'm going to
Speaker 9: count on the fact that we're going to get healthy
Speaker 9: and let's go, Or do you say we got fourteen
Speaker 9: days fifteen days to get moving, we can't wait. We
Speaker 9: think we're a World Series team, which I believe this
Speaker 9: team does, and they're playing to win, then we're not
Speaker 9: playing for twenty thirty.
Speaker 2: Then you have to go deal.
Speaker 9: You have to go deal, and maybe they do anyway,
Speaker 9: But if we don't think or they don't think that
Speaker 9: in the next two weeks or a month that they're
Speaker 9: going to have their group back, or at least part
Speaker 9: of it that's in there, then you better get the
Speaker 9: dealing and you better get out all your cards and
Speaker 9: answer every call.
Speaker 2: So that's it.
Speaker 9: And I don't believe either that Painia or from the
Speaker 9: way that the chatter Myers Paanya, Jordan Alvarez, I mean
Speaker 9: not Alvarez, but Javier and Garcia. Just to I'll just
Speaker 9: use those five for example. I don't think you're going
Speaker 9: to see any of them before July first, now July second.
Speaker 9: I not July first, but August first. I wouldn't have
Speaker 9: any any idea. But if you know more than we
Speaker 9: do about that, which they should and probably do. And
Speaker 9: you see how big If the big chatter and you
Speaker 9: start to hear rumors about big deals, that will tell
Speaker 9: you all you need to know about the health of
Speaker 9: this team moving forward.
Speaker 1: You've heard the man.
Speaker 8: He's calling for you seven one three two one two
Speaker 8: five seven ninety will continue this conversation.
Speaker 1: Also, what about the.
Speaker 8: Teams that are chasing the astros got to wonder what
Speaker 8: their aggressive nature is going to be at the trade deadline.
Speaker 1: We will talk about it right here.
Speaker 8: It is Sean Salisbury show on a Thursday Sports Talk
Speaker 8: seven ninety.
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Speaker 8: Where he said, this is the most openest open that
Speaker 8: I think you know you can have with the gray
Speaker 8: out there.
Speaker 1: You got a little bit of a mist going.
Speaker 8: It's chili all of those things like when you think
Speaker 8: of you know, you know, English, Scottish, Irish golf over there.
Speaker 1: This is what you think of.
Speaker 2: Boy, it's supposed to look.
Speaker 9: It's the truest test and you know when you're talking
Speaker 9: about northern it's Northern Ireland. You get the sidebar of
Speaker 9: the Shane Lowry and Roy McElroy where they're from. Hell
Speaker 9: about within about twenty miles is where they filmed Game
Speaker 9: of Thrones right right, not far from there maybe is.
Speaker 9: Even though no holes are read, you know, you're not
Speaker 9: gonna hit the balls in the water at this one
Speaker 9: like you may at Pebble Beach. The views are about
Speaker 9: as beautiful as you'll get from any of those links
Speaker 9: type courses in that part of the country. So it's
Speaker 9: awesome and it is a true test. And at some
Speaker 9: point in time all this weather's gonna stop, meaning the rain,
Speaker 9: and then maybe a wind will kick up, maybe you'll
Speaker 9: get some sun. You'll take the rain gear off and
Speaker 9: then an hour later you may have to put it
Speaker 9: back on. And then the greens pretty soft over there anyway,
Speaker 9: and then now it rains, so they're gonna be softer.
Speaker 9: So instead of in the US there most of them
Speaker 9: are pretty fast for the most part, here they're slow.
Speaker 9: Now they're slower. So when you play downhill you got
Speaker 9: to be wiser, you don't, you know, run it twenty
Speaker 9: feet by And now when it's slower and you're not
Speaker 9: running as true as you want. You're gonna have to
Speaker 9: wrap a few of them and you may push a few.
Speaker 9: By the test is all over the place. These huge
Speaker 9: If you hit in the bunker on a par four
Speaker 9: part five, one of those big bunkers in a fair way,
Speaker 9: you got problems. You've got some serious issues. So it's
Speaker 9: real simple. Hit greens with your irons, keep the ball
Speaker 9: into short grass and give yourself a chance. But you're
Speaker 9: gonna be putting on slow greens. But this is the test,
Speaker 9: and it does. It's the open, the openest of the opens,
Speaker 9: because of the just the attire they're wearing, all the apparel,
Speaker 9: the win. The fans are not going to leave if
Speaker 9: a rant. They don't care. That is, they'll walk through
Speaker 9: this for seventy days in a row if they have
Speaker 9: to watch good golf, so I can't wait. They'll be frustration,
Speaker 9: they'll be happy moments. This is the way golf is,
Speaker 9: and it's intriguing because you're not getting a seventy five
Speaker 9: eighty five degree day where every ball you hit is
Speaker 9: three forty. You know you're gonna have to change your game.
Speaker 9: And if you're not, like I said, creative. This course
Speaker 9: isn't for you period. Neither is playing over there.
Speaker 8: Yeah, this is the type of weather that makes me
Speaker 8: want to gain us and maybe some bangers and mash.
Speaker 9: You know, I would imagine a lot of that's now,
Speaker 9: but a lot of a lot of that's gonna be pouring.
Speaker 9: And the defending champ obviously in the British Opens, Xander Schaffley,
Speaker 9: has not had a good year yet, you know, he's
Speaker 9: we we have our expectations so high for these guys,
Speaker 9: and yet he was a monster last year with a
Speaker 9: couple of majors. So anxious to see how he plays
Speaker 9: defending his championship and this is this is awesome and
Speaker 9: you're gonna see guys roll when it's not raining.
Speaker 2: Now it'll be a little different today.
Speaker 9: You may not have a five iron that you want
Speaker 9: to roll in there because you're not going to get
Speaker 9: the same rollout. So now if you're in close obviously
Speaker 9: now you can hit high irons even if there's wind.
Speaker 9: It may be but an eight iron now may be
Speaker 9: a six iron and a nine iron, maybe a seven
Speaker 9: iron for these guys, and you just got to be smart.
Speaker 9: And the best iron player this week will be on
Speaker 9: the final page of the leaderboard if not near the
Speaker 9: top three when it's all said and done this week,
Speaker 9: if you're hitting greens with your irons, even if you
Speaker 9: and maybe you got to be cognizant too, that hitting
Speaker 9: stinger three woods off the tee. If you hit it
Speaker 9: two ninety with a three wood and the goal is
Speaker 9: to keep in the middle of the fairway, you're not
Speaker 9: spraying your driver hit a three wood or hit an
Speaker 9: iron off at a driving iron. So these guys are
Speaker 9: smarter than I am at it, and they know. But
Speaker 9: this isn't a course that you can sit there and
Speaker 9: flex your muscles and say I'm going to hit it
Speaker 9: farther than everybody else as it goes through the fairway
Speaker 9: and now you're taking double bogie because you're just off
Speaker 9: the t box there. And the big mistakes are like
Speaker 9: Lee Westwood right here on a par three, hits the
Speaker 9: ball down into the rough with an iron in his hand.
Speaker 9: An iron hits it, and they got some long par
Speaker 9: threes over there as well as a two hundred and
Speaker 9: forty five yard par three. It's going to be tough.
Speaker 9: So if you're missing short irons into the green, you're
Speaker 9: not gonna you're You're in, You're You're in real treate.
Speaker 9: It's gonna be a long day in Lee Westwoods at
Speaker 9: minus three. Now keep doing that and you want. It's
Speaker 9: only one hundred and seventy two yards and both guys
Speaker 9: off the tee are in deep, deep crap. Jordan just
Speaker 9: went in there as well. So as I'm watching on TV,
Speaker 9: that's the type of week it's going to be and
Speaker 9: there'll be a lot of mishots, but there'll be some
Speaker 9: spectacular ones as well, and I can't wait to see
Speaker 9: out unfolds.
Speaker 8: It's also funny to see some of the looks on
Speaker 8: their faces after shots, like those are looks at me
Speaker 8: and you have.
Speaker 2: Right, oh, there's no doubt.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like like why why did it just
Speaker 1: do that? Like you know that that's not supposed to
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 9: And these are pros right and say that the test
Speaker 9: And I just think about it, when you decided to
Speaker 9: get on a private plane to fly over in Northern Ireland,
Speaker 9: you you just know, Okay, I'm geared up for there's
Speaker 9: gonna be some moments when I want to erupt and
Speaker 9: go and I'm out of my damn mind with how
Speaker 9: difficult the golf course is and how creative you got
Speaker 9: to be. But there'll be those moments when you walk
Speaker 9: off this one. The majority of these guys will tell
Speaker 9: you that not only the Test, but how how how
Speaker 9: much winning the British Open, the Open means to them
Speaker 9: because it's where golf started over in the other side
Speaker 9: of the pond. So and these guys are the Europeans
Speaker 9: are really creative with this stuff, and they're some of
Speaker 9: these guys, like the Keepka's and the rams, are going
Speaker 9: to have to match it. But being the strongest guy
Speaker 9: in the group that can hit at the farthest isn't
Speaker 9: going to be uh, your number one trait this week.
Speaker 9: You better be hitting fairways off the tee and being
Speaker 9: able to throw irons in there all over the place.
Speaker 1: No doubt about it.
Speaker 8: Let's continue the Astros conversation seven, one, three, two, five
Speaker 8: seven ninety Billy, see you right there, see a few
Speaker 8: more open spots for it if you want to get
Speaker 8: in on Yourn, the pitching and just the second half
Speaker 8: of the season in general.
Speaker 1: As we'll continue.
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Speaker 4: Salisbury to usc trop longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 5: Dan Matthew, excuse, this is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 8: And the Open Championship at Royal Port, Rush over in
Speaker 8: Northern Ireland. A couple of times for the lead at
Speaker 8: the top, Jacob Scold, Olison and Howtong lead both at
Speaker 8: four under with plenty of golfers still out there playing.
Speaker 1: But we're talking ashtros right now.
Speaker 8: SEB one three two one two five seven ninety is
Speaker 8: the number to get in on the phone lines. And
Speaker 8: Billy gonna lead us off this morning.
Speaker 1: Billy, good morning, Hey, good morning. Uh yeah.
Speaker 12: I've worked a little bit in oil and gasp and
Speaker 12: got to play golf in Scotland. And I'll just say
Speaker 12: this about playing golf in Scotland. It's a beautiful country.
Speaker 7: That's it.
Speaker 12: Golf is so hard over there, and it's it's so
Speaker 12: different and I'm enjoying watching the Open. But anyway, Astros, Dan,
Speaker 12: you and I have talked on X a little bit
Speaker 12: about this, and I think we're on the same page. Yes, pitching,
Speaker 12: You're not gonna win the postseason without pitching, but I
Speaker 12: think it comes their decision. Is gonna come down to
Speaker 12: the next four days. Today with the decision on your's hand,
Speaker 12: where is he at and the next three games. If
Speaker 12: the Astros go into Seattle and get swept, they have
Speaker 12: to seriously consider if your Gun's not going to be back.
Speaker 12: They have to seriously consider if this season to watch.
Speaker 12: And I know that's heresy and I know Astros fans
Speaker 12: don't want to hear that, but think about what Detroit
Speaker 12: did last year. They traded Flaherty at the trade deadline.
Speaker 7: They got some pieces back.
Speaker 12: The injury is still out on those pieces, but they
Speaker 12: got something back and they still made the postseason. Obviously
Speaker 12: we know the results of that. We might have to
Speaker 12: look at a Fromber deal and this season may be
Speaker 12: a watch. I know Astros fans don't want to hear that,
Speaker 12: but they've got to be serious with themselves about is
Speaker 12: this season just an anomaly where the beginning of it
Speaker 12: was how wow, how did that happen? Or are we
Speaker 12: that good? Are the injuries just too much to sustain.
Speaker 12: I would love to say, no, it's who we are.
Speaker 12: Make trades. Let's make a run of the world series.
Speaker 12: That's what I want to say. But the reality of
Speaker 12: it is is you've got to be real with yourself
Speaker 12: and you going to Seattle get swept. You come out
Speaker 12: of that two games up in the division, you got
Speaker 12: some difficult decisions to make.
Speaker 1: And I don't envy Dana Brown at all.
Speaker 12: I do trust him, but they may have to make
Speaker 12: some trades that the Astros fans aren't gonna be happy about.
Speaker 12: And am I looking forward to that. No, But that's
Speaker 12: just the reality of it. And I'll say this to
Speaker 12: end the conversation. Say that on Twitter, on Astros Twitter,
Speaker 12: and you will be destroyed because that's.
Speaker 1: What's happening to me right now.
Speaker 5: Thanks, guys, I have a great morning.
Speaker 8: I appreciate it, Billy, I mean, Sean, I don't envision
Speaker 8: that being the case, but I will say this. I
Speaker 8: mean about you know, trying to be aggressive, as you
Speaker 8: mentioned earlier, and I mean, you know, the Rangers are
Speaker 8: not going to stand pat They're going to make moves.
Speaker 8: Because they came in here this weekend, they took two
Speaker 8: out of three from you, and now they're eight and a.
Speaker 1: Half games back of you.
Speaker 8: And the Astros proved it last year that with plenty
Speaker 8: of baseball left to be played, doesn't really mean much.
Speaker 8: I mean, that's that's one good week. I was talking
Speaker 8: with a good buddy of mine who's a Rangers fan,
Speaker 8: and he's telling me, dude, the divisions of the Astros.
Speaker 8: I said, no, dude, I said, you have one good
Speaker 8: week and the Astros have what they just had last week.
Speaker 8: You're four and a half five games back, and then
Speaker 8: you have another decent enough series, you're two games back.
Speaker 8: I mean, you get my point in here. That can
Speaker 8: falter pretty quickly. And oh, by the way, the Mariners
Speaker 8: are just in front of them, two five games back,
Speaker 8: so same goes for them. Both of those teams are
Speaker 8: going to be aggressive.
Speaker 9: Well, if they are, why why wouldn't the Astros. I mean,
Speaker 9: if we're, if you're, if you're unequivocally saying they're going
Speaker 9: to be aggressive, then what would be the Astros excuse?
Speaker 2: Well, we're good.
Speaker 9: Listen, when you take a look at the Astros roster,
Speaker 9: that's healthy right now, and let's just face it like
Speaker 9: we see it. I'm talking about what you've see now
Speaker 9: that you're running out there. I'm not saying not good players,
Speaker 9: but overall across the baseball most aren't going to say
Speaker 9: they can sustain this.
Speaker 2: They're just not.
Speaker 9: I mean, I hope we're wrong and it may be
Speaker 9: one of those years. But when you look at their
Speaker 9: roster today, of counting the injuries that are out, you're
Speaker 9: not looking at it and saying this is the best
Speaker 9: roster in this division. You're just not. Now when they're healthy,
Speaker 9: it's a different conversation. The question is how long. So
Speaker 9: if the Rangers and Mariners are going in, why in
Speaker 9: the hell wouldn't Why in the hell wouldn't the Astros.
Speaker 9: The simple question is this, and this is the only
Speaker 9: thing that needs answer. Do you believe that your World
Speaker 9: Series team?
Speaker 2: As we do? You believe that this is a World Series?
Speaker 5: He?
Speaker 9: Not you, but Dana Brown, Jim Crane, Joe spot In
Speaker 9: that front office and that team. If I asked the
Speaker 9: question and put on a light detector, do you think
Speaker 9: you're a World Series team? And if the answer is yes,
Speaker 9: and it's yes with their guys injured, you have no
Speaker 9: choice but to make a deal.
Speaker 2: None.
Speaker 9: Now, if you all of a sudden think, oh, we
Speaker 9: got swept, as you know, Billy was saying, we got
Speaker 9: swept and in Seattle. Now it's down to a couple games,
Speaker 9: and you think, man, I know that we're banged up
Speaker 9: and we're just not going to be able to that.
Speaker 2: This is gonna be hard. Let's make a move.
Speaker 9: Then then you do have to consider, as much I
Speaker 9: hate to say it, if you know you're not going
Speaker 9: to pay him, is what I'm saying. If you know
Speaker 9: he's going to be priced out because he's really good,
Speaker 9: and he's a left hander, and he's a workhorse, and
Speaker 9: he's capable of throwing a one hitter every time out
Speaker 9: in fromber Valdez. If you are not, if you're not
Speaker 9: all in this year for a World Series run, we
Speaker 9: face the same question with a different position. Last year,
Speaker 9: we have the question posed regularly going into the All
Speaker 9: Star break? Would you trade Bregman because he's gonna end
Speaker 9: up leaving anyway for more money, would you trade him?
Speaker 2: At the All Star break?
Speaker 9: Are you all in to say, let's run it back,
Speaker 9: see what happens, and then we'll just take our chances.
Speaker 9: And that's what they did, and unfortunately they ran into
Speaker 9: pitching against Detroit got swept season over, Bregman gone. So
Speaker 9: for the if you're looking at the future, if you
Speaker 9: think you're a World Series team, you do not trade
Speaker 9: Fromber and you roll with it and you try to
Speaker 9: make a deal somewhere. You may have to give up
Speaker 9: assets or give up somebody you don't want to. But
Speaker 9: if you think you're a World Series team, you owe
Speaker 9: it to everybody to make a World Series decision.
Speaker 2: At the deadline.
Speaker 9: If you don't think you're a World Series team, you
Speaker 9: have to at least float out there. If you know
Speaker 9: that the price is going to be too steep for you,
Speaker 9: which it's gonna be steep. If Fromber just does what
Speaker 9: he does the rest of the year, he's gonna come back,
Speaker 9: it's gonna be steep. And if he wants a four
Speaker 9: or five year deal as a pitcher for a lot
Speaker 9: of money, then history says he may not pay it.
Speaker 9: So you got to decide two things, world Series team,
Speaker 9: can we pay Fromber? If you're not a World Series team,
Speaker 9: you have to at least entertain, not give him away.
Speaker 9: You got to entertain. And the backside saying, well, on
Speaker 9: the back burner, let's say it goes well, and we
Speaker 9: win the Division and World World Saies type team, which
Speaker 9: means he will have pitched like a cy young guy.
Speaker 9: If they're gonna go there, he and Hunter Brown have
Speaker 9: to pitch that way in the second half like they
Speaker 9: did most of the time in the first half. And
Speaker 9: if you think that he's a cy young guy and
Speaker 9: you can't and you're not all in for the World
Speaker 9: Series because you're banged up, you're not healthy, then you
Speaker 9: have to at least say what can we get to
Speaker 9: move forward because and that'll tell you everything you need
Speaker 9: to know about how they feel about their team.
Speaker 2: Now. I don't anticipate from is gonna.
Speaker 9: Be gone because I think they think they're a World
Speaker 9: Series team and they're gonna be optimistic about their health
Speaker 9: and getting back. I think that's a long shot. But
Speaker 9: if you don't believe that you're going to be fully
Speaker 9: healthy the rest of the year, and you do not
Speaker 9: believe that you're a World Series team, you have to
Speaker 9: take those calls on him because history tells us you're
Speaker 9: not going to pay the kind of money a left
Speaker 9: handed starter who can be dominant and dynamic that you're
Speaker 9: getting precise that you're going to just you're gonna sign him.
Speaker 9: If you know you're all in on Fromber, I'm going
Speaker 9: to sign him. Then then this is a moot point,
Speaker 9: regardless if you're a playoff team or a World Series
Speaker 9: team or not. But it's not just if you're a
Speaker 9: playoff team. You got if if this is it and
Speaker 9: you don't make you got to know you're a world
Speaker 9: serious team before one of two things. You trade him
Speaker 9: or at least you entertain it. If you think you
Speaker 9: are Fromber, doesn't go anywhere, and we're gonna find out
Speaker 9: in the next two weeks how they feel about the team.
Speaker 9: I think he's going to be pitching in a second
Speaker 9: a half. I don't think they're gonna get swept too
Speaker 9: series in a row, and then it comes down to
Speaker 9: health and how quickly can you get people back. But
Speaker 9: you do have to make some kind of deal. A
Speaker 9: wow factor deal would be moving Fromber. But that will
Speaker 9: also tell you we are not intended, we're not intending
Speaker 9: to sign him, and we are not a World Series
Speaker 9: team in twin That's what you'll know in the next
Speaker 9: two weeks.
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, I think it's also you got to
Speaker 8: fake it till you make it. For two fronts the
Speaker 8: fans and also for your team. I mean, remember I've
Speaker 8: brought this example up before twenty seventeen when they stood
Speaker 8: pat at the trade deadline and Dallas Kaikol was in
Speaker 8: the clubhouse saying.
Speaker 1: What are we doing?
Speaker 8: Like this team is in position to be able to
Speaker 8: make a run, and that got to Jeff Luno, and
Speaker 8: Jeff Luno said, all right, we'll find at the waiver
Speaker 8: trade deadline.
Speaker 1: We'll give you guys justin Verlander. You won the World
Speaker 1: Series because you made that trade.
Speaker 8: So I mean I think that you're you fully believe
Speaker 8: and you said the group of Dana, Jim Crane, Joe Espada,
Speaker 8: they believe that they're a World Series team, especially with
Speaker 8: they're pitching.
Speaker 9: Well, you're gonna find out. You're gonna find out now
Speaker 9: play aft. You're gonna find out in the next couple weeks.
Speaker 9: If they think they're World Series team, you'll know. You'll
Speaker 9: know based on movement. If we don't have movement here
Speaker 9: and you keep your big dogs and go, then then
Speaker 9: they'll know we're all in. And I think they're all
Speaker 9: in because we're all anticipating get some time point. They're
Speaker 9: gonna get healthy. They are, And one thing you said, well,
Speaker 9: you got to you gotta fool the fans and your team. Nah,
Speaker 9: I'll tell you who you can't fool is the guys
Speaker 9: in the clubhouse. You ain't fooling them. They know exactly
Speaker 9: who they are, They know exactly what they need, They
Speaker 9: know exactly who can and can't sustain it, no matter
Speaker 9: what they tell you in public. Behind scenes, they know
Speaker 9: where their depth problems are and they know where the
Speaker 9: weaknesses are just as well as they know where the
Speaker 9: strengths are. So you may be able to fool me
Speaker 9: and you were a fan, but you ain't fooling You're
Speaker 9: not feeling fooling the guys in the clubhouse. I've never
Speaker 9: been on a team where we didn't know before the
Speaker 9: front office knew. You already know who can sustain it,
Speaker 9: who's living on the edge, meaning this guy is overachieved,
Speaker 9: this guy's been an underachiever, but he'll come around. Don't
Speaker 9: think they don't know about Jordan, how long it's going
Speaker 9: to take in a club. But they stay away from
Speaker 9: the injury talk because that's not their job. But you
Speaker 9: ain't fooling anybody in the clubhouse.
Speaker 1: If you do.
Speaker 9: That person's really dumb. Okay in the clay. If you're
Speaker 9: fooling them on what your team needs, he ain't paying attention,
Speaker 9: meaning a player. You're not fooling the players. You may
Speaker 9: be able to full LUs, but you're not fooling the players.
Speaker 9: You're gonna know if they think they're a world serious
Speaker 9: team before before August first, you just are Fromber stays.
Speaker 9: They don't make a big deal, but they enhance their
Speaker 9: roster a little bit. That'll tell you we believe we're
Speaker 9: getting healthy and I'm not partnering with them. And maybe
Speaker 9: it also tells you that maybe we are in the
Speaker 9: Fromber sweep stakes next year, no matter what the price is.
Speaker 9: That's what you gotta find out. And it's amazing how
Speaker 9: quickly July first will be here past the deadline of
Speaker 9: August first, pass the July thirty first deadline, but you'll
Speaker 9: you'll get a pretty good picture. But you ain't fooling
Speaker 9: the dudes in the clubhouse, because the second you try
Speaker 9: to fool them, then they lose trust.
Speaker 2: You're not fooling them.
Speaker 9: And if they stay five games in front in the
Speaker 9: next two weeks, they're not trading their starting pitcher. They
Speaker 9: believe they're gonna go win it be all in hell,
Speaker 9: they'll start thinking like they're there gonna get the best,
Speaker 9: you know, best record, even though Detroit's gonna be tough
Speaker 9: to chase. So I don't think that's gonna happen. But
Speaker 9: all things got to be in play. But all of
Speaker 9: it's gonna also stem from how healthy are we gonna
Speaker 9: be when September and October roll around? Able to get
Speaker 9: there in that far?
Speaker 1: That's the biggest key.
Speaker 8: And you gotta start getting some of those guys back
Speaker 8: here sooner rather than later. We can continue the Astros
Speaker 8: conversation as the show goes along. Seven one three, two
Speaker 8: one two five seven ninety is the number to get in.
Speaker 8: But also Sean invites especially two important events we'll discuss
Speaker 8: right here. It is the Sean Salisbury Show on a
Speaker 8: Thursday Sports Talk seven to ninety.
Speaker 12: Now back to Sean Salisbury.
Speaker 5: All right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now?
Speaker 5: The Salisbury's takeout, Salisbury takeout on the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 1: Stake out.
Speaker 8: We do it time every single day on the Sean
Speaker 8: Salisbury Show. Astros and Mariner is going to restart the
Speaker 8: season tomorrow night in Seattle. The Open championship at Royal
Speaker 8: Port Rush, a couple of guys at the top of
Speaker 8: the leaderboard at Jacobscove, Olisony and Hal tong Lee, both
Speaker 8: at or under. So sean wedding invites been invited to him.
Speaker 8: You've had your own, You've invited people to it. I mean,
Speaker 8: you know, it's kind of the part of life.
Speaker 1: We all go through it.
Speaker 8: But I go to barstool Sports and Nicky smokes stop
Speaker 8: inviting me to your wedding, And in parentheses, he writes,
Speaker 8: unless I know your middle name, And I feel that
Speaker 8: so much, because while I do appreciate that you want
Speaker 8: me part of your special day, if we're not really friends,
Speaker 8: why are you inviting me to your wedding? Like I
Speaker 8: feel like that's one of those that it's a very
Speaker 8: sacred day. So you want, of course, immediate family there,
Speaker 8: the extended family, at least the ones you like, you
Speaker 8: want them there. You want some friends, of course, if
Speaker 8: you're going to do the whole wedding party of you know,
Speaker 8: groomsmen and bridesmaids, then yeah, you know you I want
Speaker 8: to go I don't know, four or five deep right
Speaker 8: there with your matron of honor and also you your.
Speaker 1: Best man, all of those things.
Speaker 8: But this also means that's a lot of money, that's
Speaker 8: a lot of time, that's a lot of Oh hey,
Speaker 8: this person's vegan, Oh hey, that person's a pescatarian, any
Speaker 8: of those things, which let's be honest here, if you're
Speaker 8: any of those things, you're probably not getting the invite.
Speaker 1: But it's just things like this.
Speaker 8: For anybody that's been through this process, you feel that
Speaker 8: in your bones. Whenever what the conversation of wedding invites
Speaker 8: comes up.
Speaker 9: I couldn't disagree more. I mean I don't. I'm not
Speaker 9: a big, big wedding person. I prefer a little more
Speaker 9: intimate setting if I was going to one or that.
Speaker 9: But it's their money. They can spend it how they want.
Speaker 9: I'm not you know, they can do whatever they want.
Speaker 9: They earned it, they spend it, and they want to
Speaker 9: make it. And you've got to deal, you know, with
Speaker 9: not only your family, but somebody else family.
Speaker 2: Two things. One is is the food.
Speaker 9: If somebody's a I'm not worried now, somebody's gonna die
Speaker 9: if they eat have atto, don't eat avocado. Okay, I'm
Speaker 9: not catering a four hundred person wedding If that's what
Speaker 9: you're into, because I don't know the eating habits of
Speaker 9: eight people. I'm putting on the day we want, and
Speaker 9: they'll always have a little vegetarian or gluten free dish.
Speaker 9: But I'm not catering seventeen different meals. It's my wedding,
Speaker 9: not there. It's if they fail, well, I can't show
Speaker 9: up and eat them pack of frigging peanut butter and
Speaker 9: jelly sandwich. There's got to be something you can eat
Speaker 9: it though. If I'm inviting four hundred people, it's probably
Speaker 9: an expensive wedding, and I'm not catering four hundred different meals.
Speaker 9: So you can have your sushi instead of steak. If
Speaker 9: you're allergic to red meat, then I suggest that you
Speaker 9: load up a roll, put some butter on it, and
Speaker 9: have something else. Now, if it's just one person, the
Speaker 9: mother in law, and she'd like then of course you
Speaker 9: make it special for them. I'm not changing the menu
Speaker 9: for seventeen people I invited you. Well, I can't eat that.
Speaker 9: Oh what a bummer. Hopefully you'll eat beforehand and come
Speaker 9: grab yourself a drink. I ain't catering it to that.
Speaker 9: It's not their wedding. They're invited love you to come,
Speaker 9: and I'll make it. But I'm not sifting through four
Speaker 9: hundred people and asking them, Hey, what do you like?
Speaker 2: What are you allergic to?
Speaker 9: If somebody says, you know what, I'm allergic to this,
Speaker 9: I won't be able to eat.
Speaker 2: That's okay.
Speaker 9: We'll give you a dish, or we'll make you a
Speaker 9: burger in the back of the We'll cook you a
Speaker 9: burger and bring it in a tenfoil.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 9: Nah, and I cater and just said, it's not their wedding.
Speaker 9: They're coming there. They'll just have to adjust. I'm not
Speaker 9: going to make my fiance adjust well and let them
Speaker 9: worry about, well, what if this person? You cater to
Speaker 9: a small group, but this is our wedding. Hopefully there'll
Speaker 9: be enough food there that everybody in most of the time.
Speaker 9: Then if you're vegetarian, eat the salad. That's okay. I'm
Speaker 9: not worried about that. I got too much to worry
Speaker 9: about if I'm planning a wedding. Secondly, I can guarant
Speaker 9: ask to you. If I say, give me your tie,
Speaker 9: I'll put receipts on you. I guarantee you you don't
Speaker 9: know your five best friends, middle name I guarant asked
Speaker 9: to it. If you do, show me the receipts and
Speaker 9: post it right now. Tell me right now which Okay,
Speaker 9: who's the best man in your wedding when you have it?
Speaker 9: Do you have to you know who you're Brokay?
Speaker 1: Who's who? Who's middle name? Okay?
Speaker 9: Well, of course, okay, give me give me a give
Speaker 9: me one of your friend's names that may be invited
Speaker 9: as a as a as a grimsman.
Speaker 2: Not they fail? What's that?
Speaker 1: I already fail?
Speaker 9: They okay, so so so so remember, Well, there you go.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. You don't know.
Speaker 9: You think I'm gonna search my best friend, my five
Speaker 9: best friends in the world right now outside of my
Speaker 9: you know, my sons or my brothers, my five best
Speaker 9: friends in the world. I have zero idea what their
Speaker 9: middle name is. And they don't know that. They think
Speaker 9: my first name Sean. I'm Richard Sean, so Sean is
Speaker 9: my middle name. So whatever that bar whoever put that there, No,
Speaker 9: I don't know who that is. But I can tell
Speaker 9: you this that that that is. That's nothing but hyperbolic.
Speaker 9: Let me get clicks and so I can get into debate.
Speaker 9: There's most ninety eight percent of the people in this
Speaker 9: world have zero idea what their top ten friends middle
Speaker 9: names are. I'm sitting here trying to think, Okay, Matt,
Speaker 9: my best buddy, Joe, my teammates. I'm going through my
Speaker 9: teammates or people that would be invited if I was
Speaker 9: getting married. Again, you don't know their middle name. So
Speaker 9: that's hogwash, that's that's nothing but clickbait crap. There's no
Speaker 9: way and you don't know it, and you're saying, yep,
Speaker 9: I can read into that.
Speaker 1: You can't.
Speaker 9: You can't tell me the middle name of anybody but
Speaker 9: your brother. So you not invite any of your friends
Speaker 9: and don't invite them. So if somebody doesn't know my
Speaker 9: middle name, yeah, don't invite me. I'm not quit invite me.
Speaker 9: I'm not going to your wedding because you know my
Speaker 9: middle name. Awfully presumptuous to you. I don't give a
Speaker 9: rats ass what's your middle name? I don't know your
Speaker 9: middle name, and you sit across from me four hours
Speaker 9: a day. I have no idea and I don't care
Speaker 9: what your middle name is. Okay, so to me. But
Speaker 9: if you just said, well, yeah, okay, so are you
Speaker 9: gonna base your guest list when you get married, on
Speaker 9: whose middle names that's setting up in your who you're
Speaker 9: gonna invite.
Speaker 8: Oh, we've already determined it's immediate family and maybe a
Speaker 8: couple of extended we're making it very small, right, that's
Speaker 8: very recent.
Speaker 9: So do the women don't know their best friend's middle
Speaker 9: Maybe they know a little it more because they they
Speaker 9: they I mean, women talk to their best friends like
Speaker 9: fourteen times a day, where a guy can talk to
Speaker 9: his best friend once once every three months, and then
Speaker 9: nothing changes for us, where it's like we talked yesterday.
Speaker 2: So that's kind of the way it works.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 9: Nah that that's nothing more than a hyperbolic statement by them.
Speaker 9: There is no damn way. Most people in this world
Speaker 9: did get married the guy standing next to him. They
Speaker 9: don't even know their middle name. Hell, if they're drunk enough,
Speaker 9: they may forget the first name. Most people call somebody
Speaker 9: by hey, buddy, how you doing, dude, because they don't
Speaker 9: even know their first name. Okay, so half the people
Speaker 9: at the wedding, three koy. If it's a big wedding,
Speaker 9: you don't even Oh yeah, oh man, that was one
Speaker 9: of my free Yeah we invited him. Oh yeah, that's
Speaker 9: Steve what's Steve's middle I don't know. There's no there's
Speaker 9: no way, so that that to me is is cra
Speaker 9: It's just nothing. Don't invite me, and then they're pissed
Speaker 9: off and they didn't invite. Oh, sorry, dude, I didn't
Speaker 9: know your middle name, so I left you out. Okay,
Speaker 9: So if you're going to be a groomsman in my
Speaker 9: wedding and I don't know my best my buddy he's
Speaker 9: middle name, man, Sorry, dude, I could invite you. I
Speaker 9: don't know your middle name, You're gonna have an empty wedding.
Speaker 9: That church will be empty all the way around. So nah,
Speaker 9: I had to call you on a brother. If you're
Speaker 9: gonna tell me, yeah, you can feel that. Yeah, you
Speaker 9: don't know your best man's middle name outside your brother.
Speaker 9: You don't feel squat when it comes to that. And
Speaker 9: you and I both know it because you don't know,
Speaker 9: and you're not gonna You're not gonna study their middle
Speaker 9: names either, because you don't give a fuzzy rats ass,
Speaker 9: and neither do I.
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, I just I just know that there's
Speaker 8: a lot of anxiety that comes with it, and you
Speaker 8: know the day is supposed to be a special day.
Speaker 1: Which it is. I mean, you know, it's just anything
Speaker 1: worth doing takes a lot of hard work.
Speaker 5: Back.
Speaker 9: Family and close friends ruined weddings more than other people do.
Speaker 9: I don't need to know their middle name to have
Speaker 9: them ruined or not ruin my wedding. The drunk food
Speaker 9: is doing the moon walking on the floor and falls
Speaker 9: over and blows out his knee, that's on him. Hey man, sorry,
Speaker 9: I shouldn't have invited. I didn't know your middle name. No, no,
Speaker 9: matter of fact. If I invited three hundred people, two
Speaker 9: hundred and ninety nine of them, I wouldn't know their
Speaker 9: middle name other than the brothers of mine. They're setting
Speaker 9: up there. I'm saying here, thinking if the groomsman i'd
Speaker 9: invite boom boom, boom boom. I don't know any of
Speaker 9: their middle name outside my family, none of them. My
Speaker 9: best friend for forty years, I don't know what his
Speaker 9: middle name is, the kid I grew up with. There
Speaker 9: was my little league, best friend that we've been that.
Speaker 9: He was one of my first best friends forever, lives
Speaker 9: in Arizona. We've known each other. Well, let's see fifty years.
Speaker 9: If you asked me, if I stayed that we stayed
Speaker 9: at each other's house growing up, like you, like we
Speaker 9: were brothers and we're damn near are. I have zero
Speaker 9: idea what his middle name initial is nah Man, and
Speaker 9: most people would have no idea that my middle name sean. Well,
Speaker 9: what's your first name? Well, don't you know you invited
Speaker 9: me to your wedding?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 9: No, that that makes for good banter and hyperbolic and
Speaker 9: he he's not turning down weddings as somebody doesn't know
Speaker 9: his middle name, and you and I both know and
Speaker 9: I don't even know who you're talking about.
Speaker 2: I don't even know who the dude is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just wanted to He's another one of the
Speaker 1: faces there at are so.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, gotcha.
Speaker 9: Maybe I think I've heard the name, but I wouldn't
Speaker 9: know if he walked in the room what his face
Speaker 9: look like.
Speaker 2: So there you go.
Speaker 1: I just, you know, kind of buried the lead here.
Speaker 1: Who the hell is allergic to red meat?
Speaker 2: That's why I don't know.
Speaker 9: No, No, the lead is that somebody's not inviting somebody
Speaker 9: because they don't they don't want to get invited because
Speaker 9: you don't know my middle name. Hell, family members, I said,
Speaker 9: you have to think I don't even know my cousin.
Speaker 9: My mom's sister's daughter, I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 9: her middle name. I don't know any of my cousin's
Speaker 9: middle names. I have people I grew up with. I
Speaker 9: don't know any school teachers' middle names. I don't know
Speaker 9: free And matter of fact, of a thousand friends you
Speaker 9: have in the world, the nine hundred ninety nine of them,
Speaker 9: I wouldn't be able to tell you their middle name. Hell,
Speaker 9: half the time, I don't remember my first name. So
Speaker 9: and I got a good memory. So now the lead.
Speaker 9: I don't know who's allergic to red meat, but I
Speaker 9: would imagine vegetarians feel like they are so whatever allergic
Speaker 9: or don't eat it. So and I'm not catering my
Speaker 9: menu to five people when there's four hundred people there.
Speaker 9: That's on them. They can find something to eat with
Speaker 9: all the money you spent, and that takes away. If
Speaker 9: I got to think about that, that just adds anxiety
Speaker 9: and stress. This is supposed to be a stress for
Speaker 9: event and go once the menu set, either show up
Speaker 9: and eat it or sit your ass through drive through.
Speaker 9: What a burger that's your deal? That's not a meat
Speaker 9: that's not a meat problem.
Speaker 8: It's actually not a bad idea for the other one,
Speaker 8: because I think they have a food truck.
Speaker 9: Great, you have five menus on there and something on there.
Speaker 9: You can eat that for everybody. There'll be enough at
Speaker 9: a wedding for every shrimp cocktail. Here, you get a
Speaker 9: little food, just finger foods here, a salad here, big
Speaker 9: old prime. Whatever it is to sit down dinner I
Speaker 9: can make now. I for one, the mother in law
Speaker 9: is really really allergic to eighty seven foods, and she'll
Speaker 9: pass out and look like, you know, like Martin Short
Speaker 9: and in one of those Pure Luck or whatever the
Speaker 9: movie is. Okay, I'm gonna make sure you don't die
Speaker 9: sitting at the head table, right. But if you're the
Speaker 9: two hundredth person on the list and you can't eat steak, well,
Speaker 9: I sure as hell hope you can eat salad or
Speaker 9: vegetables because that's what you're gonna get. Thank you, and
Speaker 9: have yourself a drink and take two weeks off and
Speaker 9: don't come to the next one.
Speaker 8: So there you go. I'm not worried about that. I'll
Speaker 8: eat theirs for them. We'll go ahead and take care
Speaker 8: of that. But that is the stake out here on
Speaker 8: a Thursday. Let's get back into the Astros conversation.
Speaker 1: But before we.
Speaker 8: Do that, I do have to call cap on, a
Speaker 8: good buddy of somebody here on the show, and we
Speaker 8: will hear that.
Speaker 1: And talk about it next.
Speaker 8: Right here, it is a Sean Salisbury show on a Thursday,
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Speaker 9: and football coach, and hope he puts a ring on
Speaker 9: his finger as a head coach. Friend of sure, anybody
Speaker 9: who comes on, I guess once they're on, you automatically
Speaker 9: fall into the category of a friend of the show,
Speaker 9: and it won't be the last time he's on, So
Speaker 9: that's fair. I would just say somebody we like and
Speaker 9: think is really good and is a guest once in
Speaker 9: a while, So yeah, a friend of the show works.
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go. If he's a friend of yours,
Speaker 1: he's a friend of ours.
Speaker 8: So we'll hear from Steve Sarkisian, who had an interesting
Speaker 8: comment in the press conference room behind us here in
Speaker 8: Atlanta at SEC Media Days. That really kind of has
Speaker 8: some people doing like that sideways dog. Look, you know
Speaker 8: if kind of like really man like you're gonna try
Speaker 8: to say that and go with that. But we'll have
Speaker 8: that for you here as the show continues. But John
Speaker 8: and Richmond wants to weigh in on what we were
Speaker 8: just talking about.
Speaker 13: John, good morning, Yes, it was funny which all were
Speaker 13: talking about. Dan, are you familiar with SNL skip with
Speaker 13: Bill hater.
Speaker 14: What's the name?
Speaker 13: Now?
Speaker 1: I'm sure Gordy is. Gordy's a big SNL guy, but
Speaker 1: I am not.
Speaker 2: Oh man.
Speaker 13: They were like, could you name your husband your friend?
Speaker 13: For one hundred dollars? He was like, yeah, that's Bill.
Speaker 13: And then the next topic was for one hundred million dollars,
Speaker 13: could you name your wife's bridesmaid? Was He was so
Speaker 13: confused he didn't know her name for one hundred million dollars. Man,
Speaker 13: I just had to weigh in on the soThe Man.
Speaker 13: I love you guys. I listen to you guys every morning.
Speaker 13: I rarely get a chance to call in, but that
Speaker 13: topic was so funny, man, I had just to weigh
Speaker 13: in on you guys.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah now, and that's a great point, John. Thanks.
Speaker 9: If you don't know the maid of honor, then now
Speaker 9: we got to check you at least now. I may
Speaker 9: not know the first name of the fourth person down
Speaker 9: the roads, if she's a friend or somebody she grew up.
Speaker 9: May forget that. The seventh out of eight uh you know, uh?
Speaker 9: What do they call the uh not made of honor?
Speaker 9: What do they call? We call them bride'smaids? The seventh
Speaker 9: of the eighth bridemaid down there is like oh, yeah, well,
Speaker 9: especially if you've had a drink or to oh you
Speaker 9: mean Stephanie, yeah or whatever it is okay, but yeah,
Speaker 9: but if you don't know the Maid of honors her name,
Speaker 9: I may not know their last name, but I would
Speaker 9: like to hope that I know all of their first names,
Speaker 9: if not, study them, because you may have to reference
Speaker 9: of hey, oh grateful and so and so and so
Speaker 9: and so. But if you don't know the maid of
Speaker 9: honors name for free, then you got a problem. If
Speaker 9: you don't know the maid of honors name for a
Speaker 9: hundred million, then just start guessing. Man, go back in time, say, okay, man,
Speaker 9: who's the name she mentioned most of the time. Yeah,
Speaker 9: you got to know that, not her middle name, but
Speaker 9: her first name for one hundred mil. I'll crawl ten
Speaker 9: miles over broken glass for that. But yeah, now you
Speaker 9: got to know her name. But the middle that's a
Speaker 9: great point. But the middle name, I don't. I won't
Speaker 9: even know my best man if it's outside the family.
Speaker 9: I don't know their middle name. Maybe I should ask,
Speaker 9: but I have zero idea any of my top ten
Speaker 9: best friends middle names, and I probably never will.
Speaker 8: Oh I mean, I would already start planning on being
Speaker 8: custom made. Had to tone like Rick Flair, because I'd
Speaker 8: be worth a hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1: I know I'm Megan's bridesmaid.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm gonna know the bridesmaid's first name, not just
Speaker 9: the bridesmaid, but the maid of honor, no doubt. Middle names, Nah,
Speaker 9: don't care either. If that's how they're getting invited, then
Speaker 9: it'll be a two person wedding.
Speaker 2: I can tell you that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But it is also though too.
Speaker 8: I mean you're you're talking about because I mean I've
Speaker 8: been to those weddings where you have the wedding parties
Speaker 8: of both groomsmen and bridesmaids are like seven or eight deep,
Speaker 8: and it's just like that's too many people. Stand it
Speaker 8: up there, man, four or five? I think four or
Speaker 8: five is is a good number.
Speaker 1: Now for you.
Speaker 2: What if what if somebody what if somebody wants ten?
Speaker 2: What if you know you can't.
Speaker 8: Have running You're allowed to do whatever you want. We're
Speaker 8: just saying that it's crowded up there.
Speaker 2: Sure it is crowded.
Speaker 9: Sure, but if you have a big church, and I'm
Speaker 9: with you, but if they've got ten girlfriends, they don't
Speaker 9: want to hurt any feelings.
Speaker 1: See that.
Speaker 9: That's why if you're in between, just get the best
Speaker 9: man and a maid of honor and let the rest
Speaker 9: of them sit in the stands and don't have one
Speaker 9: or sitting out the audience or whatever it has in
Speaker 9: the congregation. So but yeah, man, I mean some people
Speaker 9: like big ones. I mean that's up to them. Where
Speaker 9: it spans the globe. When they're doing it right, they
Speaker 9: can do whatever they want. But for me, yeah, probably
Speaker 9: a little big. But I got hell, I got you know,
Speaker 9: a handful of buddies that I would if I if
Speaker 9: I was doing it that way, that I would. Yeah,
Speaker 9: but you know the people who have fifteen and I'm
Speaker 9: sure not going to say, well, three of my buddies
Speaker 9: are coming and you got fifteen bridesmaids. Well now I
Speaker 9: got to go in and start matching them up. So
Speaker 9: it's an even thing across the board. So yeah, sometimes
Speaker 9: less is more. But for some, the bigger, the bigger,
Speaker 9: the gaudier, the more oh my gosh, we got all
Speaker 9: see the more people that just to me, the more trust,
Speaker 9: the more headache it is. That's just it's just my opinion.
Speaker 9: We'll have a big party afterwards. You can all come,
Speaker 9: nobody has to worry about anything, put on your jeans
Speaker 9: or your shorts, and drink tequila and have a blast.
Speaker 9: But yeah, it's something, you know what. For some it's everything,
Speaker 9: the one time and the pomp and circumstance. I don't
Speaker 9: have a problem with it. I've been to Catholic weddings
Speaker 9: that take three hours. Now, I've been to weddings that
Speaker 9: take eight minutes. I kind of like the eight minute one,
Speaker 9: but it's their moment, so I'm just gonna enjoy it
Speaker 9: either way. But yeah, fifteen people standing up there, and
Speaker 9: fifteen of them I won't know their middle name unless
Speaker 9: it's unless it's one of my kids or by a
Speaker 9: brother of mine, meaning my family.
Speaker 8: Hey, the reception open bar, beer and wine, beer and wine,
Speaker 8: cash bar.
Speaker 1: Oh I can't make it. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 9: My philosophy is this, when I invite people, I'm giving.
Speaker 9: If I'm inviting you, there's going to be more than beer.
Speaker 9: That's just me and people can do it. Have as
Speaker 9: small as you want, and if you know, I'm not
Speaker 9: telling them how to do it. But if I'm inviting you,
Speaker 9: I'm probably not making you pay cash.
Speaker 2: You come there and enjoy. It's on me.
Speaker 9: It's the moment we spend all this money. Yeah, and
Speaker 9: if you don't want to do it that way, put
Speaker 9: all that money towards the down payment on a house,
Speaker 9: have a little party, get the way to go over
Speaker 9: with and enjoy yourself. I've got a lot of suggestions,
Speaker 9: but I'm not gonna te anybody how to live it.
Speaker 9: But I ain't having it. If I'm getting married, i
Speaker 9: ain't having a five hundred person wedding. It's not Plus
Speaker 9: if they do, it'll be a short lived because I'm
Speaker 9: only not short lived marriage. But we're out of this
Speaker 9: by the time it starts and done. You can look
Speaker 9: at your clock. You will not be twenty minutes, fifteen minutes,
Speaker 9: may be you'll be done and we'll be partying. That's
Speaker 9: the whole thing. The reception of the party. They get
Speaker 9: through a few things, thank you, love you, boom, let's go.
Speaker 9: But some people like the long drawn out process and
Speaker 9: that's them. And if they invite me, I'll show up
Speaker 9: if I possibly can. But if they don't, then good
Speaker 9: luck to them, and I'll buy you a drink after
Speaker 9: no big deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no hard feelings.
Speaker 8: That's that's what we always try to go through life,
Speaker 8: not to making sure that you're wrong people or yourself
Speaker 8: are wrong. So those are things we try to live by.
Speaker 8: Someone three two on two five seven ninety is the
Speaker 8: number to get in again? Someone three two one two
Speaker 8: five seven ninety. Steve Sarkisian, what did he say that
Speaker 8: got people wondering it?
Speaker 1: Dude? Seriously, we'll talk about it right here.
Speaker 8: It is Sean Salisbury Show on a Thursday, Sports Talk
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Speaker 8: As we've been talking college football all throughout the week
Speaker 8: and really all throughout this offseason, name image and likeness
Speaker 8: has come up quite a bit, and a lot of
Speaker 8: people point to Texas as being a school that is
Speaker 8: one of the ones who are the most aggressive when
Speaker 8: it comes to name, image and likeness. So Steve Sarkisian
Speaker 8: was in the main press conference room a couple of
Speaker 8: days ago and he was he was asked about name,
Speaker 8: image and likeness and how is he how he used
Speaker 8: it in recruiting, and this is what he said, is
Speaker 8: their attact when it comes to addressing it with said recruits.
Speaker 15: I think sometimes quite frankly, I think it hurts us
Speaker 15: a little bit in recruiting and the fact that when
Speaker 15: kids come on our campus, one of the first things
Speaker 15: we do we don't talk about NIL. We don't talk
Speaker 15: about NIL or revenue sharing or publicity rights until the
Speaker 15: very end. And that may hurt us on some kids.
Speaker 15: But if a kid is coming to Texas for that reason,
Speaker 15: we don't want them anyway.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 15: We want kids that want to be at the University
Speaker 15: of Texas because of the school, the coaches, the team,
Speaker 15: the culture, all those things.
Speaker 16: That go into it.
Speaker 15: And oh, by the way, you can get publicity rights
Speaker 15: or revenue share, so on and so forth.
Speaker 8: All right, So Sean, in fairness, he didn't say they
Speaker 8: don't talk about it.
Speaker 1: He just said they don't lead with it.
Speaker 8: But immediately after those comments came out, people started to
Speaker 8: jump on and go on Twitter and post the videos
Speaker 8: and pictures of the Lamborghinis on the sidelines there at
Speaker 8: Darryl K. Royal Memorial Stadium to kind of be like, oh, sure, coach,
Speaker 8: you don't talk about it, do you.
Speaker 9: Well, who's got as big a collective slash nil wallet
Speaker 9: as there is in college.
Speaker 2: Football Ohio State?
Speaker 9: But I say as big to Texas is as big
Speaker 9: as anybody's make it. Put it this way, when you're
Speaker 9: with the collective, and you know there's some great people
Speaker 9: running collectives in University of Texas has some great people
Speaker 9: involved and some people that care about the University Texas.
Speaker 9: If they ain't first, they ain't fifth. As far as
Speaker 9: the resources they have, let's put it at resources. They
Speaker 9: have to pay whatever they want and however they decide
Speaker 9: they want to do it. It's not going to be because
Speaker 9: a lack of money. Let's put it that way. So
Speaker 9: I understand what Starks saying. He said, we don't approach
Speaker 9: to a last I understand that philosophy. You're trying to
Speaker 9: get the kid to buy into the program that you're
Speaker 9: not just eliminating the ability to recruit.
Speaker 2: I was saying this yesterday.
Speaker 9: What Nil has done, it's taken away on another show
Speaker 9: I do it is taking this away a great recruiters,
Speaker 9: like a Kirby Smart, like a Nick Saban, like an
Speaker 9: ed Orgeron when he was there, great recruiter, whether he's
Speaker 9: a head coach or an assistant, great recruiter. But now
Speaker 9: it's no longer you're you're the fact that you can
Speaker 9: out recruit. While recruiting matters, you've got to be it's
Speaker 9: an ATM. Are you an investment bankers? It's not great recruiter.
Speaker 9: Now are you a great banker? If you're a great
Speaker 9: investment banker and you're a good ATM machine, that's that's
Speaker 9: far more than can you recruit, because if you walk
Speaker 9: in you're the best recruiter in the world. But you are,
Speaker 9: and you're we're talking about kids that are getting that
Speaker 9: are part of that are going to get paid. Everybody
Speaker 9: doesn't get paid, but the best recruits. If you walk
Speaker 9: in there and you're selling your program but there ain't
Speaker 9: money attached to it, you're gonna lose out to somebody
Speaker 9: that there is. Hence why a Texas tech team who
Speaker 9: wouldn't be considered a university, wouldn't be considered a top
Speaker 9: fifteen or twenty program before this money, although there's money
Speaker 9: there that is invested in ANIL.
Speaker 2: I love the program.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 9: They're they've turned it into a bit this model and
Speaker 9: they're kicking ass. They've got a good coach. There's good
Speaker 9: football players all over Texas and they're going to be
Speaker 9: a major player, which we've mentioned on the show before.
Speaker 9: So sarks right, I mean, you'd like to convince him,
Speaker 9: and he probably do. Wait till it's last, But make
Speaker 9: no mistake, Sometimes we save the best for last. And
Speaker 9: when you can parade people out and there's Lamborghinis or
Speaker 9: Porsches or Ferrari's hanging outside the complex, guess what, that's
Speaker 9: a good way to end the story.
Speaker 1: So you do that.
Speaker 9: So what it's done is like Coach o Oh used
Speaker 9: to be able to go in and recruit people. If
Speaker 9: Coach o now was going into recruit people, but came
Speaker 9: in there with an empty wallet and there's three teams
Speaker 9: going after a five star, you will lose out most
Speaker 9: of the time. Now, so this is leveled the field.
Speaker 9: It didn't make Saban the best recruiter in the world anymore,
Speaker 9: because well I may be the best recruiter, but I
Speaker 9: don't have the investment banker behind me to the ATM
Speaker 9: machine to back it up. And that's just the simple fact.
Speaker 9: So sarks right, who may may do it last, would
Speaker 9: make no mistake. If all things being equal, they can negotiate.
Speaker 9: They've got the resources to pay whatever they need to pay,
Speaker 9: if that's what it calls keeping up, whether they do
Speaker 9: or not it's on them. So yes, they do. But
Speaker 9: if you're not involved in it, you are getting how
Speaker 9: the rules. We may like the rules, but the rules
Speaker 9: say you're you can be involved in it and this
Speaker 9: nil stuff. If you're not, you will get left behind, simple,
Speaker 9: you just will until they regulate this. So yeah, there's
Speaker 9: a little bit of BS there, but he didn't say
Speaker 9: we don't do it. Hit us that we do it
Speaker 9: at the end. And sometimes that's a good clothe You
Speaker 9: gotta have a good closure. That's their Marianna Rivera and
Speaker 9: it's a good one and they're good at it, and
Speaker 9: rightfully so. But the great recruiters, now, the great equalizer
Speaker 9: kicked in and that's your ATM machine at a bank
Speaker 9: for your recruits. And that's just a simple fact. And
Speaker 9: so yeah, don't let Texas fool you when they talk
Speaker 9: about people that are in the top five or top
Speaker 9: ten and having that resource Texans is I mean, the
Speaker 9: University of Texas is near the top of the list.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean you missioned at ATM.
Speaker 8: It is pretty big in Austin and adapt or die
Speaker 8: very much the way that college football is now.
Speaker 1: And Texas fully realizes that. So we can.
Speaker 8: Continue that conversation if you want someone three two one
Speaker 8: two five seven ninety against seOne three two one two
Speaker 8: five seven ninety. But to open up our three, just
Speaker 8: how aggressive could the Astros be? We might have an indication.
Speaker 8: We'll talk about it right here at the trade deadline
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Speaker 8: The Aggie's going to make their way through here a
Speaker 8: little bit later on this afternoon, and the Astros in
Speaker 8: Mariners going to get back on the field tomorrow night
Speaker 8: to start the second half of the season. One of
Speaker 8: sixty six left to go this year, and the Open
Speaker 8: Championship happening over at Royal Port Rush and Jacob Scove
Speaker 8: Olison is tied with Hal tong Lee for the lead
Speaker 8: at four under but Sean, it is at that time
Speaker 8: of the year where the trade deadline is coming up,
Speaker 8: and of course, you know you start searching, you know,
Speaker 8: furiously for rumors out there. You know, who are the
Speaker 8: Astros connected to, who are they interested in? Who are
Speaker 8: you hearing that they're making calls on it. That's not
Speaker 8: what this is. It's cbssports dot Com breaking down their
Speaker 8: you know, just break down of the league of obvious buyers,
Speaker 8: probable buyers, somewhere in the middle, possible sellers and obvious
Speaker 8: sellers out there, and the Astros are part of the
Speaker 8: group that are the obvious buyers. And the piece here
Speaker 8: is written by Dan Perry of cbssports dot Com. Injuries
Speaker 8: and departures keep hitting Houston and they just keep contending.
Speaker 8: The break finds them with a hefty five game lead
Speaker 8: in the Al West, and that means by mode in particular,
Speaker 8: they'll be looking for a left handed bat, perhaps another
Speaker 8: starting pitcher. Given that the Astros basically full rotation is
Speaker 8: on the il, the promise of a ninth straight trip
Speaker 8: to the playoffs will guide their decisions, as it should, so,
Speaker 8: I mean they expect the Astros to be buyers. We
Speaker 8: expect the Astros to be buyers. It's just now a
Speaker 8: question of are they going to be able to meet
Speaker 8: the expectations that people are going to be looking for
Speaker 8: when Dana Brown continues to ramp up these phone calls.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and the expectations meet the expectations of the people.
Speaker 9: And I'm talking I'm not talking about me and you
Speaker 9: and the fans. I'm talking about the expectations of their
Speaker 9: club and the team they're trading with, of what they're
Speaker 9: looking for and what the opposing team's willing to give up.
Speaker 9: I would think that they're going to be buyers as well, unless,
Speaker 9: of course, in the next two weeks they think they're
Speaker 9: not a World Series type team. If you think you're
Speaker 9: a one and done team in the postseason, you may
Speaker 9: think different about assets you're going to give away. If
Speaker 9: they think they're a World Series team, which I fully believe,
Speaker 9: and just from my judgment of interviewing Steve Sparks and
Speaker 9: Dana Brown every week, my guess is, and they're five
Speaker 9: games in front of first place, I would think that
Speaker 9: they believe that they are going to be hanging around,
Speaker 9: especially in an American league that while Boston's playing great baseball,
Speaker 9: Detroit is at the top of the list. It's good,
Speaker 9: trust me, it's good. But you can win the American
Speaker 9: League if you can match Detroit's pitching staff or anybody
Speaker 9: else who rolls along there. If Seattle is in the playoffs,
Speaker 9: or if the Texas Rangers are in as well, the Astros,
Speaker 9: if they can get that type of performance from their
Speaker 9: front line, get a couple guys healthy, different story that
Speaker 9: they are not only a player, hell one of the
Speaker 9: better records in the first half of the season, So
Speaker 9: that tells you their player. Is it smoking mirrors? Hard
Speaker 9: for me to believe you can be ninety some games
Speaker 9: in it's all smoking mirrors. The question is can you
Speaker 9: sustain it for sixty plus sixty five more? So, I'm
Speaker 9: not worried about how you and I feel if they
Speaker 9: make a trade that they think is worthy. You know,
Speaker 9: they did one last year and thought that they would
Speaker 9: be given up assets and that they would it would
Speaker 9: be really good for them, and he pitched well coming
Speaker 9: out of Toronto and they saw it, but they didn't
Speaker 9: get to keep him and he never got to take
Speaker 9: the mound because they got swept. So I believe they
Speaker 9: are buyers, but we're going to know if they think
Speaker 9: they're a World Series team soon, and I expect them
Speaker 9: to hang around because they're not going to lose the
Speaker 9: lead by the weekend. Even if they get swept, they'll
Speaker 9: still be in first place. We're going to find out
Speaker 9: who they think they are, and judging from our interviews,
Speaker 9: I believe that they think they're World Series team. I
Speaker 9: don't think they're giving away the fun and rebuilding now now.
Speaker 9: If they were ten games out right now Frommer's name
Speaker 9: would be coming up all over, as would other players
Speaker 9: on this roster.
Speaker 2: It's not they're in first place.
Speaker 9: They got to get what happened fixed at the end
Speaker 9: of the first half, and they've got to get healthy
Speaker 9: if they really want to be a player. But I
Speaker 9: don't know how we can argue, damn near one hundred
Speaker 9: games in at how this team's been as resilient as
Speaker 9: any team in baseball.
Speaker 8: I mean, and it's also too what are the needs
Speaker 8: of this team?
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 8: I mentioned the Chandler Rome piece earlier. He'd even talked
Speaker 8: about how the trade deadline could look for this team,
Speaker 8: and left handed bat is one of them, and his
Speaker 8: contention was, you'd be looking for a guy that's a
Speaker 8: left handed bat can play second base for you, and
Speaker 8: or could be somebody that can play left field, because
Speaker 8: you're not moving camp Smith out of right field. That's
Speaker 8: staying at least for the time being. You need a
Speaker 8: center fielder because you appreciate what Taylor Tremmeel has done,
Speaker 8: but you need somebody out there that can also be
Speaker 8: able to provide some offense for you.
Speaker 1: And maybe that enters into the equation.
Speaker 8: I mean, because we've talked about the possibility of Cedric
Speaker 8: Mullins being somebody who started off right this year but
Speaker 8: then started to tail off as the season went on.
Speaker 8: What about a guy like Andrew Benin Tendi Sean who
Speaker 8: right now two thirty three and eleven homers, thirty five
Speaker 8: runs batted in. We know that he is a guy
Speaker 8: that can play a good outfield.
Speaker 9: Cedric Mullins and Andrew ben and Tendy you know both
Speaker 9: have had, you know, all star type moments both good players.
Speaker 9: And Mullins is a good player. If you're talking about
Speaker 9: a wow factor, deal, that ain't it. But it's a
Speaker 9: piece you're exactly that's that will decide is it one
Speaker 9: of those guys that did help your depth and can
Speaker 9: make an impact and yeah, and neither one of them
Speaker 9: went healthy. And Cam Smith, who's healthy, he's gonna be
Speaker 9: playing right field. And when Jake Myers comes back, he's
Speaker 9: in centerfield. So you're telling me as a left fielder.
Speaker 9: So does that mean you're moving out to it back
Speaker 9: to full time second base? If you're gonna go get
Speaker 9: Cedric Mullens, you go get Andrew Ben and Tendi who's
Speaker 9: a left fielder as well.
Speaker 2: That's one thing you have to find out.
Speaker 9: So is it a small piece move, like when you're
Speaker 9: putting a puzzle together on your table and you're like, well,
Speaker 9: where's that, Oh that one piece fell below your foot,
Speaker 9: Go down and get it. Put in good good players
Speaker 9: if that's all you're looking for. So is this going
Speaker 9: to be a wow factor move?
Speaker 2: That does it? But you need more than one piece if.
Speaker 9: They As mentioned by Chandler Roman his article, it's almost
Speaker 9: a five era for guys not named fromber and Hunter
Speaker 9: Brown if you think and they're a five hundred team
Speaker 9: when the other guys pitch for the most part. So
Speaker 9: you got to decide if you think, and I don't
Speaker 9: think right now, you can count on the fact that
Speaker 9: even if they come back, how good are Garcia and
Speaker 9: how good will you know Spencer be and how good
Speaker 9: will Javier be as they ramp up? And really they've
Speaker 9: got to go pitch elsewhere. I mean where you're looking
Speaker 9: at still a ways away from that, But you got
Speaker 9: to ask yourself, will they be ready.
Speaker 2: To run the stretch down? If they're healthy to do it?
Speaker 9: Pitcher? I think a power bat left tan. And it
Speaker 9: also depends on not only you gotta get your on healthy.
Speaker 9: You got to ask yourself, is yor don gonna be
Speaker 9: the guy before he before he went on the il
Speaker 9: for all these days? And that's something and you assume
Speaker 9: he is because his history tells you he's a great player,
Speaker 9: So I think there is. So if it's Mullins or
Speaker 9: Been and Tendee, I don't know what that does for
Speaker 9: oh wow, we're gonna crush it. It does add depth
Speaker 9: and maybe, like always when people come here, they seem
Speaker 9: to elevate their play, But is that the deal to
Speaker 9: gets you over the top power wise? Neither one of
Speaker 9: those guys are hitting you for thirty home runs, So
Speaker 9: if you're just looking for that, it's one thing. And
Speaker 9: Mullins there's some pop, but I'm talking about a guy
Speaker 9: who every time he comes to the plate can can
Speaker 9: produce at least has a chance to produce that big bat.
Speaker 2: So we'll see.
Speaker 9: I think if you're gonna make a move, you're looking
Speaker 9: at more than one guy pitching and starting pitching and
Speaker 9: you know, a thumper at the plate. The question is
Speaker 9: what do you got to give up to get the
Speaker 9: wow factor guy as opposed to the guy? And Baltimore
Speaker 9: seems they're not afraid to give guys and give guys
Speaker 9: up right now. And this is a team for the
Speaker 9: last two three years has been who look at the
Speaker 9: strides they've made, well right now they're willing to part
Speaker 9: The question is who are they willing to part with
Speaker 9: and how many of them? And around baseball, what do
Speaker 9: you got to give up to get a guy that's
Speaker 9: not a wow factor player? And if you do, go
Speaker 9: get a big time this guy's a monster. Now what
Speaker 9: do you do to deplete what you have? And are
Speaker 9: you gonna have to give up a guy that's on
Speaker 9: your rush? You gotta be careful not to disrupt what's
Speaker 9: going on rhythm wise for this team, and it's been
Speaker 9: going on pretty good this whole year. SAMs the last
Speaker 9: six games before the All Star Break.
Speaker 8: I just combed through and I look at some of
Speaker 8: the guys out there that could fit the profile of
Speaker 8: a left handed bat. And I mean we've mentioned a
Speaker 8: couple of those names. Another guy that came up was
Speaker 8: Ryan McMahon with the Colorado Rockies this year. He's down
Speaker 8: both average and ops still thirteen homers and twenty eight
Speaker 8: runs batted.
Speaker 2: In and another left handed bat.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and he's a guy that can play second base too.
Speaker 8: He's played third, can play second, has even gotten some
Speaker 8: work in over at first. So I think that you
Speaker 8: wouldn't have to necessarily give up a ton or at
Speaker 8: least two of those names. I wouldn't expect that the
Speaker 8: White Sox are gonna expect a ton of money or
Speaker 8: uh prospects back in return for a guy like Benintendie.
Speaker 1: But the problem is is money.
Speaker 8: He's seventeen point one this year, next year in the
Speaker 8: year after that, so that also feeds into it. I
Speaker 8: just think that if you're looking for the most bang
Speaker 8: for your buck here, Sean, then that's got to be
Speaker 8: starting pitching.
Speaker 9: Oh, I don't think, well, if it goes by what
Speaker 9: they all believe, pitching pitching pitching, if you have the
Speaker 9: If you have your druthers, which one would it be
Speaker 9: one or the other? You're you're gonna go get the
Speaker 9: pitcher because you can survive. You can win if you
Speaker 9: If you are not a great offense, you can win
Speaker 9: with a decent offense.
Speaker 2: You can, We've seen it.
Speaker 9: But you can be a great offense if your pitching
Speaker 9: staff cannot hold up. They're banged up, and they are,
Speaker 9: they're not their average with this pitching staff is not average.
Speaker 9: But if they are, you'll end up wearing starting pitching,
Speaker 9: end up wearing not the bullpen, and then you're not
Speaker 9: scoring enough. Fronts give me pitching all the time before hitting.
Speaker 9: Yet you give me both, and it's a nice bonus.
Speaker 9: But yes, if you if you can only make one decision,
Speaker 9: I would imagine you're trying to bolster it with a
Speaker 9: stud to add to the two at the front of
Speaker 9: the rotation already and keep that bullpen fresh.
Speaker 1: A question about it.
Speaker 8: Seven one three, two one two five seven ninety is
Speaker 8: the number to get in. We can continue the Astros
Speaker 8: trade deadline discussion as well as get into a couple
Speaker 8: of other things major League Baseball related, like Sean, you
Speaker 8: mentioned a rod yesterday We didn't even mention another way
Speaker 8: that he overloaded his mouth with his ass a couple
Speaker 8: of days ago here in Atlanta at the All Star Game.
Speaker 1: We'll have that for you next right here.
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a hell ray. Good morning.
Speaker 14: How you doing, Hey, Good morning, guys. Maybe I'm just
Speaker 14: swinging for the fences, but uh, I know we've talked
Speaker 14: about it before. Why not? Why aren't we going for
Speaker 14: Mike Trout?
Speaker 9: Well, Ray, I can tell you what he makes, thirty
Speaker 9: five and a half million dollars in that I think
Speaker 9: would take you over what you wouldn't that take him
Speaker 9: into a luxury situation?
Speaker 1: Uh? Dan?
Speaker 9: I think so? And what you're gonna have to give
Speaker 9: up to get it? Your giveth and you taketh away.
Speaker 9: I love, I love where your head is, but imagine
Speaker 9: the whole what you'd have to give up. And they're
Speaker 9: not paying thirty five million dollars a year to Mike Trout.
Speaker 9: They're just not well.
Speaker 14: I mean, we could rent him for a year and
Speaker 14: then I mean, we want to win at least one
Speaker 14: more before the ride is over.
Speaker 9: What are you willing to give? Okay, what are you
Speaker 9: going to give up for him? Tell me what you're
Speaker 9: gonna trade for him? Put a package together for me
Speaker 9: for Trout so we can get an idea, not just
Speaker 9: the thirty five million they're gonna have to take on
Speaker 9: and they'll lose some of it obviously when they get riticized.
Speaker 9: But what are you willing to trade for Mike Trout
Speaker 9: on this team.
Speaker 14: You're not. Y'all are not going to like this. But
Speaker 14: I think Alvarez because he ain't playing, I don't know,
Speaker 14: we don't even know when he's coming back, that would
Speaker 14: be my start. I would have to really think about
Speaker 14: what I would be willing to give up. But I mean,
Speaker 14: can get mad, all right.
Speaker 9: We're not mad at all. You asked, We're just giving
Speaker 9: you a car. Adobe Dobe sins. We're not mad at all.
Speaker 9: I mean, I I love Mike Trout, it'd be great
Speaker 9: to have him, but just on the realistic side. Now,
Speaker 9: do we know how how old's Trout early thirties, thirty two,
Speaker 9: thirty three, three thirty three, he's thirty three years old.
Speaker 9: That's about an eight year difference or seven year difference.
Speaker 9: It's it's triple the money Jordon's making. I'm talking about
Speaker 9: over the course, what's he making four hundred and fifty
Speaker 9: million Trout so thirty five or thirty six year I
Speaker 9: think it's thirty.
Speaker 2: Five and a half right now for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 9: And so you're giving it and then you got you
Speaker 9: got Jordan under contract, and you and then you want
Speaker 9: to rent Mike Trout and give a I get I
Speaker 9: love Trout the player, but yeah, Jordon for Trout. I
Speaker 9: think the Angels would probably listen. Trout's had injury history. Obviously,
Speaker 9: Trout has never won a playoff game. Now on the Astros,
Speaker 9: he probably would because I mean he's played in a
Speaker 9: couple but never won one. He and O Tawni together
Speaker 9: didn't see you better have pitching, and they have it here.
Speaker 9: I like where your head is. I just don't think
Speaker 9: it's feasible to pull it off, and I sure as
Speaker 9: hell don't think injury or not that they believe because
Speaker 9: you're You're getting rid of a who's been banged up
Speaker 9: for a guy who I love and is a Hall
Speaker 9: of Famer who's always banged up. I love the idea,
Speaker 9: but I can't give up yord On for Trout. And
Speaker 9: I think Trout's the best all around player we've seen,
Speaker 9: not named Otani. The last what dozen years, He's been
Speaker 9: the MVP like seventy four times and finished in the
Speaker 9: top five the other twenty seven times. So I like it,
Speaker 9: but age wise and money wise, I can't do it,
Speaker 9: and I don't trust that Trout would be healthy the
Speaker 9: next seventy games. I couldn't do it, but I like
Speaker 9: your I like the idea, but I just think realistically
Speaker 9: we can't. But man, I'm with you. If you could
Speaker 9: get Trout and not give up Yard on, the problem
Speaker 9: is what would you have.
Speaker 2: To give up to get him? And are you willing
Speaker 2: to pay for that? And I don't think they are.
Speaker 14: Okay, fair enough, you guys, have a great weekend.
Speaker 2: Good point, Ray, Thank you?
Speaker 8: All right to you, Ray, Yeah, I mean your point
Speaker 8: about Trout not being able to stay healthy.
Speaker 1: Sean.
Speaker 8: He's played over half a season once in the last
Speaker 8: three years, and that was by one game. He played
Speaker 8: eighty two games in twenty twenty three, twenty nine, just
Speaker 8: last year, in seventy this year. No guy I've ever
Speaker 8: met even missed of this year. Yeah, no guy. When
Speaker 8: I say met, no guy I've ever watched, I mean,
Speaker 8: may we have. But I'm talking about that can garner
Speaker 8: more MVP votes when he misses like fifty games a year.
Speaker 8: The guy will play and the numbers I'm talking about,
Speaker 8: the guy will play like one hundred and thirty games
Speaker 8: and he'll finish like in the top three in the
Speaker 8: MVP Award. When he's playing and on the field, the
Speaker 8: numbers he just gathers and puts up are sick. But
Speaker 8: the fact of the matter is, if we're complaining about
Speaker 8: Jordan's health, there's no other superstar in baseball right now
Speaker 8: that's hurt more than Trout. And it bothers me to
Speaker 8: say it, because I am a huge Mike Trout fan.
Speaker 8: It's just not a deal. I can't and I don't
Speaker 8: know how many more healthy years you're gonna get from
Speaker 8: Mike Trout.
Speaker 9: Usually the older you get the less the less you
Speaker 9: stay healthy, and Mike hasn't been able to stay healthy
Speaker 9: when he's young, so and yet he is a great play. Hell,
Speaker 9: if you have Trout for one hundred and thirty games,
Speaker 9: it's like having another cat for a hundred and sixty.
Speaker 9: But the problem is is if you're getting him here
Speaker 9: and all of a sudden you trade that he comes
Speaker 9: in in ten games in he's got a hammy out
Speaker 9: for fifteen and then all of a sudden, the shoulder
Speaker 9: or a thumb or a quad You're like, well, wait
Speaker 9: a second, I think the risk is too big for
Speaker 9: the reward. Especially on the left hand side of the plate.
Speaker 9: Jordon appears that he's at least gonna get healthy. We hope.
Speaker 9: I know where Ray's head is. But the reality of it,
Speaker 9: I don't think you can do it, and I'm not
Speaker 9: sure the Angels, even with Jordan, would do it. But
Speaker 9: at some point in time, I'd love to see Mike
Speaker 9: Trout play somewhere where we could see him for a
Speaker 9: full postseason and go. I'm not sure that'll ever happen
Speaker 9: with the Angels or maybe somewhere else, but you're going
Speaker 9: to have to give up quite a bit to get him,
Speaker 9: and your sure's gonna have to pay a lot, and
Speaker 9: I'm not willing to trade the injury for the injury
Speaker 9: and then take me over the luxury situation tax with them.
Speaker 9: So I don't think that's an eye option. Although having
Speaker 9: Mike Trout in an Astro's uniform would look really, really nice,
Speaker 9: I don't know. I don't believe that's ever gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it would. It would be cool.
Speaker 8: You'd sell some tickets and sell some jerseys. But I
Speaker 8: mean it's not for a lack of trying either from
Speaker 8: the Angels either, Sean. I mean they've tried to put
Speaker 8: them in right field. They tried to d h him.
Speaker 8: They tried to take them out of center field for
Speaker 8: those very reasons, because well, they felt like centerfield was
Speaker 8: taxing them too much healthwise. So it's even with those
Speaker 8: moves that they've made, he's still not been as to show.
Speaker 9: That you could you could pinch hit him, and at
Speaker 9: some point Mike Trout's gonna get hurt. And I hate
Speaker 9: it because I am a huge fan, But on the
Speaker 9: realistic business side, it would not be a good business move.
Speaker 9: And when we say, man, they didn't now Trout here
Speaker 9: with better players as one thing, but when you think
Speaker 9: about we had the two best players in baseball one
Speaker 9: and two, no matter how you looked at it, with
Speaker 9: Otani and Trout for a hand for what three four
Speaker 9: years whatever it was. However many years they were together
Speaker 9: at the Angels, they did not play in one playoff game.
Speaker 9: If that's not the greatest example of pitching needed, then
Speaker 9: there isn't one raise on point with Trout and his ability.
Speaker 9: And I get his the temptation, but those two were
Speaker 9: on the same team and the two best players in
Speaker 9: baseball at the time they were together, and not only
Speaker 9: couldn't you keep them both healthy all the time, but
Speaker 9: they didn't win a playoff game. They didn't play in
Speaker 9: a playoff game. Now you do that math, Yeah, hard
Speaker 9: hard to do and hard to validate. So if you said,
Speaker 9: give me a great pitcher or Mike Trout at this stage,
Speaker 9: give me the pitcher. And I never thought i'd say that,
Speaker 9: as good as Trout is, but it's if you just
Speaker 9: can't now if all of a sudden they wanted to
Speaker 9: give Trout away for a prospect and a and a
Speaker 9: a player that's good but not jord On, and you
Speaker 9: could find a way to manipulate it and work it
Speaker 9: around the tower, willing to go into that and pay
Speaker 9: the extra, which they've proven that they don't like to
Speaker 9: do here, then then okay, I'd consider it. Hell who
Speaker 9: doesn't want Trout, But it's got to be it's got
Speaker 9: to be favorable to me too, And right now, a
Speaker 9: Jordon for Trout, straight up, I think we'd be losing
Speaker 9: the trade because at this stage of the game, I'm
Speaker 9: not sure Jordon's not as good a hitter, if not
Speaker 9: better than Trout is. When they're both healthy, they're the equal.
Speaker 9: They're both top ten players in a league at the plate.
Speaker 9: But the question is that's a big if and rarely
Speaker 9: are you going to have either one of them healthy
Speaker 9: for one hundred and sixty games.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 8: And plus if you're the Angels, I mean, why wouldn't
Speaker 8: you try to do the Mookie Bets trade? Like, why
Speaker 8: wouldn't you try to get that type of return?
Speaker 1: Hell?
Speaker 8: I mean what the Nationals got back for Soto when
Speaker 8: they shipped them out the San Diego I mean that's
Speaker 8: worked out incredibly well.
Speaker 1: CJ. Abrams, a guy that's been really good for them.
Speaker 8: So that's I mean, if you're taking calls, if you're
Speaker 8: the Angels, that's the type of package that I'm looking
Speaker 8: for in return, because I'm saying, hey, I understand the health.
Speaker 8: Don't talk to me about the health. You're getting the
Speaker 8: player that's the type of guy, you're sure. And if
Speaker 8: you're the Angels, you're saying, all right, maybe we're taking it,
Speaker 8: you know, on the front end here, but you want
Speaker 8: to be able to have guys that on the back
Speaker 8: end three four, hell five and your players that can
Speaker 8: be able to you know, be able to show your
Speaker 8: fan base, oh yeah, we made the right move.
Speaker 9: And you're also, I would think would want to deal
Speaker 9: with somebody who is already past that the tax right
Speaker 9: or is willing to go in there. Hell, I could
Speaker 9: see a team like Philadelphia trying to get Trout there.
Speaker 9: They can afford it. The I mean they can, I
Speaker 9: could see. I don't know if they're going I'm just
Speaker 9: using them an example. I mean, that's is any of
Speaker 9: Philadelphia Philly, I mean Philadelphia Eagle season ticket holder. I
Speaker 9: mean I could see it. Hell, the guys right up
Speaker 9: the don't kid yourself. If they thought they could pull
Speaker 9: it off and it worked for them, you don't think
Speaker 9: the guys right up the Interstate, up up up Highway
Speaker 9: five would be interesting? I mean, can you imagine that
Speaker 9: and leave it to them to try to try and
Speaker 9: pull it off like the Dodgers.
Speaker 2: Well you know what I mean.
Speaker 9: I don't know if what's going to happen to this
Speaker 9: trade deadline, but you could see them saying, well, wait
Speaker 9: a second, now, they may maybe we'll throw this guy
Speaker 9: into the mix too, So it's not gonna happen. I
Speaker 9: don't think then, no, he's going anywhere. But they if
Speaker 9: you're the Angels, you would still have to ask for
Speaker 9: a haul because when Trout is on the diamond, he
Speaker 9: is still a major threat. I just don't think teams
Speaker 9: that aren't willing to think about all the players we've
Speaker 9: let go here because you didn't want to enter into
Speaker 9: a to that you know, that rarefied era of money.
Speaker 9: I think the Astros wall it sounds good, it's unrealistic,
Speaker 9: and I'm sure I'm not parting with yord On yet.
Speaker 2: I just can't.
Speaker 9: Even though now, if you told me he is out
Speaker 9: for the season and Sean it's going to be you're
Speaker 9: getting one hundred and thirty or one hundred and twenty
Speaker 9: games out of every year for the next five years,
Speaker 9: at some point time you would have to consider it.
Speaker 2: So who is he?
Speaker 9: Is he the healthy Yordon or are we going to
Speaker 9: be facing a Mike Trout Anthony Davis type of thing
Speaker 9: where every year there's time. I'm not putting him in
Speaker 9: that category yet. I don't think we should. And when
Speaker 9: the guy's out there, he is dedominant. I don't think
Speaker 9: I'm ready to part with Yordon really for anybody just yet.
Speaker 2: I'm really not well.
Speaker 8: I mean, Reggie Jackson said they don't boo nobody's I
Speaker 8: would go ahead and use kind of that same logic
Speaker 8: with they don't intentionally walk nobody's and Jordon's one of
Speaker 8: those guys that he gets that respect. I mean, hell,
Speaker 8: we even saw it earlier this year Sean, where he's
Speaker 8: going through his struggles, and I forget there was even
Speaker 8: a load up the bases.
Speaker 1: I think they were playing Cleveland.
Speaker 8: I can't remember who they were playing, but they walk
Speaker 8: Jordan and you're kind of like, right, I won for
Speaker 8: his last like twenty one right.
Speaker 9: Put it this way, the baseball world, knowing the resilience
Speaker 9: and grit of the Astros and the way they can
Speaker 9: pitch in front eye their bullpen, they want they do
Speaker 9: not want Jordan to get healthy. Oh for the guy
Speaker 9: to be healthy. You don't root for anybody's injury. But
Speaker 9: while he's there, they just assume he stays on the
Speaker 9: shelf for two more months, for another six d They
Speaker 9: don't want any part of it, because if he comes
Speaker 9: back and he's healthy and good, the Astros are going
Speaker 9: to win this division and they're going to especially if
Speaker 9: they're pitching, gets healthy and stay as healthy as they are,
Speaker 9: they're going to win the division and they're going to
Speaker 9: win the division. With a punch to your face, the
Speaker 9: question is, so, if you're an especially an American league, team.
Speaker 9: The last thing you want is the big fellow healthy.
Speaker 9: So you're begging for it, and the Astros are are.
Speaker 9: I'm sure counting on the fact that at some point
Speaker 9: in time this year he's going to be hitting into
Speaker 9: three hole and driving in runs. That remains to be
Speaker 9: seen as to win.
Speaker 1: For sure, and also as to win.
Speaker 8: We know when the Texans are going to start training camp,
Speaker 8: that's going to be next Wednesday, and one of the
Speaker 8: Texans offensive linemen making a bold proclamation about how this
Speaker 8: twenty twenty five season is going to go.
Speaker 1: What you hear from them next right here?
Speaker 8: As we continue on the Seawan Salisbury Show on a
Speaker 8: Thursday Sports Talk seven to ninety, the seven ninety listener
Speaker 8: line in the eight o'clock hour is presented by one
Speaker 8: eight hundred car Cash. The Astros just drafted a guy
Speaker 8: from LSU and also I want to talk a little
Speaker 8: college football, and you know LSU and a like with scone.
Speaker 9: So great to have him on for you. Do you
Speaker 9: what I said, It'll be great to have him on. Yeah,
Speaker 9: I go on his show every week during the fall. Yes,
Speaker 9: he's great and very good at his job and it
Speaker 9: always great to talk to him.
Speaker 8: Absolutely so look forward to catching up with him. But
Speaker 8: the Astros and Mariner is gonna get to work tomorrow
Speaker 8: night to start the baseball season back up. But as
Speaker 8: I mentioned this time next week, Sean, we are going
Speaker 8: to have the Texans on the practice field for the
Speaker 8: start of training camp, and of course a lot of
Speaker 8: eye is gonna be on the offensive line. Who's gonna
Speaker 8: be your starting up five there upfront this year? This offseason,
Speaker 8: Laramie Tunzel goes out the door, same with Shaq Mason.
Speaker 8: A lot of moves made in order to try to
Speaker 8: make up for some of those losses, either through free
Speaker 8: agency or the draft. But Jake Andrews is a guy
Speaker 8: that's fighting for one of those spots. And yesterday he
Speaker 8: caught up with Mark Vandermere with the Texans in house
Speaker 8: media over there at NRG Stadium, and I said a
Speaker 8: huge proclamation made by him. Listen to what Jake Andrews
Speaker 8: says you can expect from the Texans in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 17: The ball is gonna be run, I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 17: We're gonna run the football Dayli's doing a good job
Speaker 17: with putting all that stuff together. We're gonna protect CJ
Speaker 17: Or whoever's back there, try to make us five up
Speaker 17: from We're gonna try to make it our life's work
Speaker 17: to not have anybody in his lap. We're touching him
Speaker 17: at all. Yeah, we're gonna pound the rock and we're
Speaker 17: gonna air it out. We're gonna keep people on their
Speaker 17: toes and uh, we're gonna play tough, physical football, and
Speaker 17: people are gonna know when they wake up on Monday
Speaker 17: morning that they just got done playing in the Houston Texans.
Speaker 8: As a Texans fan, sean, that will absolutely fire you
Speaker 8: up because that is anything but what they were in
Speaker 8: twenty twenty four.
Speaker 9: Uh yeah, well it's anything they've been in a minute
Speaker 9: when it's talking about dominate the line of scrimmage and
Speaker 9: when you come out of a game, and you'll come
Speaker 9: he he played the Texas. You know you've played them,
Speaker 9: but even more so now that my favorite parts, the
Speaker 9: last part, because the first party really means He told
Speaker 9: me that they were gonna run the ball, They're gonna
Speaker 9: be physical, protect the quarterback and throw it all over
Speaker 9: the lot. Well, of course that's the object. I would
Speaker 9: imagine that you are going to throw it, you are
Speaker 9: going to run it, and you got two stud runners
Speaker 9: the last part, and he's right, keep your quarterback up
Speaker 9: right and make sure when they wake up on Monday
Speaker 9: morning that they need a plunge pool because they've been
Speaker 9: they've had their ass handed to them physically, they're going
Speaker 9: to be able to finesse enough. A quarterback, hopefully the
Speaker 9: coordinator put him in a position, won't play scared, will
Speaker 9: attack and be aggressive.
Speaker 2: But also you've got to have the ability.
Speaker 9: When it's seventeen to fourteen and you've got the ball
Speaker 9: with seven minutes to go to end the game, and
Speaker 9: a lot of times that's not by throwing it twelve
Speaker 9: times on the final drive. That's why you're up by
Speaker 9: three to hand it, to mix it and Chubb and
Speaker 9: not just hand it to him, but move real estate
Speaker 9: play on their side of the line of scrimmage. So yeah,
Speaker 9: it's a novel concept and I like his style. Now,
Speaker 9: now go do it. Protect the quarterback so he doesn't
Speaker 9: have to the ball doesn't come out prematurely, and so
Speaker 9: his head's not on a swivel where he trusts that
Speaker 9: he can set his feet and deliver the ball. And
Speaker 9: two is turn around and hand and then mix in
Speaker 9: play action. Those things I'm not worried about CJ. Straud's
Speaker 9: ability to rip it, and I'm not worried about their
Speaker 9: ability to want to run it. But the two things
Speaker 9: you went out got shubbed because you want depth there
Speaker 9: and you know you're physical, but you got to be
Speaker 9: physical at the point of attack, not just those two
Speaker 9: cats in the backfield. So I like the style, but
Speaker 9: I love if you can come out of every game
Speaker 9: and everybody's battered and bruised on the other team, You're
Speaker 9: gonna win far more than you're gonna lose because the
Speaker 9: quarterback throws and stuff will take care of themselves. It's
Speaker 9: the physicality that will get you either where you want
Speaker 9: to go or the lack thereof that will get you eliminated.
Speaker 9: So yes, and it should start there. Hence why this
Speaker 9: team needs to match the defensive physicality with their offensive front.
Speaker 9: They'll make enough play stole on the ball. I'd love
Speaker 9: to have us come out of the week and say,
Speaker 9: you know what, most of the time they may have
Speaker 9: got beat this week, and they will get beat a
Speaker 9: handful of times, but you'd like to know that when
Speaker 9: you in winning, it's like that old win in Rocky. No,
Speaker 9: Rema don't want no rematch basically where you you don't
Speaker 9: want to you don't want to go through that fight again.
Speaker 9: You just assumed somebody pillow fight you. And the last
Speaker 9: year they were a pillow fighter. They just were this team.
Speaker 9: They gave you an NBA fight. Well, I'll slap a
Speaker 9: little bit and move around, stand behind a guy, hit
Speaker 9: and run. You know, when you hit the guy and
Speaker 9: move around. That type of pillow fight and when they
Speaker 9: don't belong in a fistfight because they don't know how
Speaker 9: NFL players got a pretty good idea. Give me some
Speaker 9: hockey stuff and I'll take that. And if that's who
Speaker 9: they're if their identity coming out of this is defense
Speaker 9: and physical domination on the offensive line, the face of
Speaker 9: the franchise can be CJ.
Speaker 2: Stroud because I know he can throw it.
Speaker 9: I'm not sure yet if they can dominate the line
Speaker 9: of scrimmage on defense on offense, We'll go find out.
Speaker 9: But I do like that their attitude is it's either
Speaker 9: that or bust and go to the ends of the earth.
Speaker 9: To make sure that your quarterback is standing upright when
Speaker 9: the game's over, that's the right approach.
Speaker 8: Well, and also to be able to have confidence in
Speaker 8: his feet to make throws down the field and even
Speaker 8: be healthy. I mean, I think we get we were
Speaker 8: talking about it all throughout. Ohca's in mini camp. That's
Speaker 8: you gotta wonder if you was still a little banged
Speaker 8: up from last season because of how many hits he
Speaker 8: took last year.
Speaker 1: So those are things that the sections are hoping they
Speaker 1: can sure up.
Speaker 8: One more quick point on this that I will make
Speaker 8: on the other side, also, Dwayne wants to weigh in
Speaker 8: as we continue here on the Seawan Salisbury Show on
Speaker 8: a Thursday, Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 5: Ry, You're back. This is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 16: Get back at it, Dwayne.
Speaker 18: Good morning, Good morning Max, Good morning Sean. This year
Speaker 18: and the MB well major League Baseball, this is the
Speaker 18: buyer's year, So finding a player that you're going to
Speaker 18: need on your roster is either going to cost more
Speaker 18: or if if somebody wants to trade them. So right now,
Speaker 18: the ED I think this is my thought. But the
Speaker 18: Astros are doing pretty good. And the thing is is
Speaker 18: if all eight players can play together and do like
Speaker 18: they've been doing winning, I mean they're actually winning, and yeah,
Speaker 18: I think they can still stay up on top of
Speaker 18: the West because the Mariners and the Texas Rangers. I
Speaker 18: don't know if they're gonna be able to find anybody
Speaker 18: other than the you know, maybe a kid that they
Speaker 18: picked from the draft. But that's all I want to
Speaker 18: just say, thank you all.
Speaker 8: I appreciate the cal Dwayne. I mean, look to his
Speaker 8: point too, Sean. I mean, I went through some of
Speaker 8: the names that might be out there that fit the
Speaker 8: profile of what the Astros are looking for.
Speaker 1: Position player wise, the pool is shallow.
Speaker 8: There's not very many, and with the expanded playoffs and
Speaker 8: more teams make it through a wild card, you've got
Speaker 8: teams who right now, in other years before that being
Speaker 8: the case, would have probably been selling in a couple
Speaker 8: of weeks. But now they're saying, kind of like you
Speaker 8: were talking about the Astros, are you a world serious
Speaker 8: team or not? They're trying to just to determine are
Speaker 8: we a playoff team or not? And if we're not,
Speaker 8: how much do we want to sell?
Speaker 9: All Right, I'll tell you a team that's got some
Speaker 9: good players, that is in a brutal division and it's
Speaker 9: going to take a lot. There was two years removed
Speaker 9: from the World Series, Arizona. If I mean that's a
Speaker 9: team look on are they Are they going to be sellers?
Speaker 9: They've got some pitching. I mean now that the pitching
Speaker 9: is not as dominant, but this team has some some
Speaker 9: players and the question is who are they? I mean,
Speaker 9: are they Baltimore Oil style? And I don't even know.
Speaker 9: I haven't looked at how far out are they in
Speaker 9: this division?
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 9: The Diamondbacks and Volo is a good manager. You got
Speaker 9: the standings in front of you. If not, I'll pull
Speaker 9: them up.
Speaker 13: I was.
Speaker 8: I was letting you finish while the page refreshed. Arizona
Speaker 8: currently is eleven games okay in the division. But to
Speaker 8: the point I brought up five and a half games
Speaker 8: out of a wild card okay, and how many teams
Speaker 8: have they got to Let's see the padre in front
Speaker 8: of them, Giants in front of them, Dodgers in front
Speaker 8: of them, right, that's correct?
Speaker 9: Okay, three teams in the division that that's gonna still be.
Speaker 9: That's a task, right. Four teams from the division are
Speaker 9: not making the playoffs, the division winner and three other
Speaker 9: that's just I don't believe that's I don't know. Is
Speaker 9: it possible that Kademy, can you have how many wildcards?
Speaker 9: We have three is that correct?
Speaker 1: Or two?
Speaker 2: Three wildcards?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 9: So you'd have to I mean, that's that's tough sled.
Speaker 9: They've got to decide, not like the Astros, because the
Speaker 9: Astros are in first place. But okay, even though we
Speaker 9: may be a wildcard team, are we good enough to
Speaker 9: get through it? Or are certain pitchers available on this
Speaker 9: because they've got some pretty good players, and you kind
Speaker 9: of wonder, is this a version of like Baltimore that's
Speaker 9: got players. Baltimore was supposed to be a World Series team.
Speaker 9: I mean, they've been at the top. They were, Baltimore's
Speaker 9: been the fashion Toronto pick the last couple of years.
Speaker 9: Before that, it's the Blue Jays Blue Jays, and they've
Speaker 9: underachieved because they had pitching and they've got big hitting.
Speaker 9: And then you go into the Baltimore man, they're they're
Speaker 9: arriving early. They've got all these young players. But that
Speaker 9: is then you get rid of Corbin Burns and you
Speaker 9: start to roll and you say, okay, now now where
Speaker 9: are we? Okay, we're gonna we're gonna move a few players.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 9: Arizona two years removed from the World Series, eleven games out. Yeah,
Speaker 9: wild card, but if we even give the wild card.
Speaker 9: Are we legitimately a team or is now the time
Speaker 9: to move one of our good players or a pitcher
Speaker 9: or two and retool a little bit to get some
Speaker 9: prospects financially and you know, for the future.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 9: I don't even know how they're feeling, but I would
Speaker 9: imagine that people have called them. So I'm just using
Speaker 9: them as an example to go get what you want
Speaker 9: and you may be able. They've dealt with Arizona in
Speaker 9: the past, cup well Christian Walker, but also back when
Speaker 9: they got Grankie and they gave up five prospects for him.
Speaker 9: So maybe, just maybe I do know things changed. But
Speaker 9: if that's a team that you say, okay, where are
Speaker 9: they because they're the tweener right now, three teams in
Speaker 9: front of you in your own division, eleven games out,
Speaker 9: five or six games away from the wild card. Can
Speaker 9: you sustain it? And do you expect a monster second half? Unfortunately,
Speaker 9: they're not gonna gain enough ground for them to be
Speaker 9: able to say, well, now we're they're not going to
Speaker 9: win six in a row. I wouldn't imagine however many
Speaker 9: they're playing before the or eight in a row or
Speaker 9: ten in a row before the All Star break, maybe
Speaker 9: they will. Maybe they'll go on a Red Sox run
Speaker 9: and then not the All Star break but the trade deadline,
Speaker 9: and you'll say, you know what, we're charging. The problem is,
Speaker 9: you've got three really good teams, two World Series I
Speaker 9: think tight teams, and a team that's favored. So that's
Speaker 9: a lot to overcome. So who will Arizona be? And
Speaker 9: if they are, they've got some players that may very
Speaker 9: well be somebody that you could inquire about and be
Speaker 9: willing to they'd be willing to move. I'm curious to
Speaker 9: see who they are. And I don't even know what
Speaker 9: the Baseball Riders are saying about them. But just from
Speaker 9: my vantage point in watching, that's a team that over
Speaker 9: the next two weeks they may have to decide. Now,
Speaker 9: if they win one and lose seven in a row,
Speaker 9: I can't imagine that if they're twelve, fourteen games out,
Speaker 9: I can't imagine that they're not going to be listening
Speaker 9: to offers for some of their players.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, it's a great point, and that's what
Speaker 8: these couple of weeks are.
Speaker 13: Four.
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, you've got the Rangers three and
Speaker 8: a half games out of a wildcard spot. I mean,
Speaker 8: the Angels while they're there, that's there's a shelf life
Speaker 8: they're going to fall off. They just don't have the
Speaker 8: pitching to be able to make a run deep. I mean,
Speaker 8: it is one of their more competitive years they've had.
Speaker 8: But I mean, you know, we were talking about that
Speaker 8: piece from CBS Sports. There's that group that's kind of
Speaker 8: in the middle of Minnesota, Kansas City in Cleveland, and
Speaker 8: they're all four four and a half games out. But
Speaker 8: it's a question of is it just not really a
Speaker 8: pathway for those teams to make the playoffs? And then
Speaker 8: you know, you factor in the teams that are in
Speaker 8: the National League, and we covered some.
Speaker 9: Of those absolutely, it's just you know, like I said,
Speaker 9: we don't know. We can from our vantage point. You
Speaker 9: get an idea of, okay, this team, we can get
Speaker 9: a perception of who would is going to you know,
Speaker 9: crap can the whole operation and try to move on.
Speaker 9: You can see that by teams that are way out
Speaker 9: of it and people aren't coming to the ballpark. We
Speaker 9: we know, but it's teams like Airs Owner that are
Speaker 9: tweeners right now and you say, well they're in they're
Speaker 9: in a precarious situation, but they know in they're building
Speaker 9: for the most part, who they are. From our vantage point,
Speaker 9: it may look different than inside, and they may say,
Speaker 9: this is just the aberration. We're better than this. We're
Speaker 9: sticking with this. We're not moving people. But there will
Speaker 9: be sellers. The question I always say this, Yeah, well,
Speaker 9: well you may want to go get a guy. What
Speaker 9: are you willing to give up to get him? And
Speaker 9: let what tier is it? Is it a superstar tier player? Well,
Speaker 9: there you go. Is it a difference maker? But not
Speaker 9: a guy that is our that's say, oh my gosh,
Speaker 9: without him, we can't go on the difference maker that
Speaker 9: you need because it fulfills a need. Or is it
Speaker 9: the third one that you're just looking for depth and
Speaker 9: a guy that can spot some people and play a
Speaker 9: few different positions, or a pitcher that your fifth starter,
Speaker 9: that it's insurance. That's what you've got to decide, whether
Speaker 9: you're Arizona, whether the you're the Astros, or whether you're
Speaker 9: the damn Colorado Rockies. But and you may find a
Speaker 9: team that's desperate to get rid of somebody, and they
Speaker 9: may just say a guy I'm I'm willing to take
Speaker 9: less and you might find that team that's a tweener
Speaker 9: that so like Arizona says no, if you want this cat,
Speaker 9: you're gonna give up a lot. And then it comes
Speaker 9: to the Astros or a team like Seattle or the
Speaker 9: Rangers that are willing to say, what are we willing
Speaker 9: to do to disrupt what we have to take a
Speaker 9: step back and losing this guy or this prospect in
Speaker 9: order to take two steps forward and give ourselves a
Speaker 9: legitimate chance when we get to the postseason. Of those
Speaker 9: teams we just named, obviously, the Astros are sitting in
Speaker 9: a really good position. I can't imagine any team five
Speaker 9: games in front of first place parting with a lot
Speaker 9: of prospects to go get somebody that's going to help that.
Speaker 9: I just don't see it when I say prospects and
Speaker 9: possibly somebody on your team. I think the Astros have
Speaker 9: to be in buyer's mode right now. I can't imagine
Speaker 9: even if they lost three in a row to Seattle,
Speaker 9: why would you sell If you're a first place team
Speaker 9: and you sell on any team, I got a problem
Speaker 9: with you as a fan base. You're basically telling me
Speaker 9: we are not in and you're in first place, I
Speaker 9: don't think the Astros think like that.
Speaker 2: Hints why they're so successful.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't think Dana Brown wants any part of
Speaker 8: that press conference, and I don't think he's gonna have
Speaker 8: to give that press conference. I think of anything, it's
Speaker 8: gonna be him up there introducing us to a new
Speaker 8: player or players. When it's all said and done here
Speaker 8: in the next couple of weeks, all right, as promised,
Speaker 8: coming up here in the fourth hour of the show.
Speaker 8: Or good buddy Matt Moscona at ESPN one oh four
Speaker 8: to five, he's gonna drop I talk a little bit
Speaker 8: of baseball, talk, some football, and even something in Houston
Speaker 8: he's got cooking up here in a very short order.
Speaker 1: All of that's coming up right here.
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Speaker 8: Back to action tomorrow nights in Seattle. The Open Championship
Speaker 8: ongoing over in Northern Ireland and it is currently a
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Speaker 8: also Matthew Fitzpatrick all at four under. But has promised
Speaker 8: our good buddy Matt Moscona joining us here in Atlanta
Speaker 8: at se See media days. Scone, I know you have
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Speaker 8: so we just figured it's time to be able to
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Speaker 19: Love it man, always happy to visit, happy to see you.
Speaker 19: This is also a weird thing you were going through
Speaker 19: just there. I guess the second half of the baseball
Speaker 19: season about to start the Open Championship, Dan, I haven't
Speaker 19: been outside in like four days. You know, you come
Speaker 19: to this thing and just you're in this giant convention
Speaker 19: all in hotel, like you forget the world is still
Speaker 19: happening outside of this event.
Speaker 7: It's just it's a four day avalanche. Man. But it's
Speaker 7: cool to be here.
Speaker 8: I was gonna say, aside from getting text messages pictures
Speaker 8: of my dogs, that's about the outside world that I know.
Speaker 8: You know, I know, me and Sean want to get
Speaker 8: into some football with you. But the Stros picked Ethan Fry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of days ago.
Speaker 8: Guy that part of the national title team. I mean,
Speaker 8: I know he DHD mostly with LSU this year, but
Speaker 8: what are the Astros getting?
Speaker 19: So he is a fascinating prospect because first of all,
Speaker 19: is a he has a big league body. You're talking
Speaker 19: about guy that's sixty five, sixty six, super strong and
Speaker 19: really athletic. I mean he he has the physical makeup
Speaker 19: of a big leaguer. The weird thing about Fry is
Speaker 19: he came to LSU as a catcher, played a little
Speaker 19: bit of outfield, was injured a year ago, and this
Speaker 19: year was just your right handed DH. I mean, you
Speaker 19: guys know this, like there's just not a premium on
Speaker 19: right handed power hitters that don't play a position. So
Speaker 19: scouts have never seen Ethan Frye play a position. They
Speaker 19: don't know what the glove is. So it's fascinating that
Speaker 19: the Astros gave him, as I was told about a
Speaker 19: million dollars and you know, he got overslot to sign
Speaker 19: for an organization that doesn't typically do that. It was
Speaker 19: a very surprising pick to see fry go where he did,
Speaker 19: and LSU had a very nice nil revs share offer
Speaker 19: for him to come back. But this is a guy
Speaker 19: who showed this year when he was healthy, the ability
Speaker 19: to hit not only for power but for average. I
Speaker 19: think he landed on thirteen homers. He didn't really settle
Speaker 19: in as the full time DH. He had sort of
Speaker 19: a platoon early in the season, whether they were facing
Speaker 19: the left to or alrighty, but he just emerged. He
Speaker 19: led LSU and hitting this year and proved that the
Speaker 19: ability to hit for average was there as well as
Speaker 19: ability to hit for power. So super high upside Dan.
Speaker 19: I just don't know where he plays, like, is he
Speaker 19: a first base DH? Did they give him some run
Speaker 19: in the outfield. That's what I'll have to figure out
Speaker 19: in the farm.
Speaker 7: System.
Speaker 19: But he's got plus power and he's a great athlete
Speaker 19: who can really run. He's an intriguing prospect just because
Speaker 19: I don't know where he's going to play in the field.
Speaker 9: Maddie, I'm curious about this. What's the with that, good brother.
Speaker 9: I look forward to our getting back at it with
Speaker 9: you each week in this college and NFL season start,
Speaker 9: And thanks for joining us. I know you're all over
Speaker 9: the map working your ass off. But back to that.
Speaker 9: You look at him, you say, I don't know enough
Speaker 9: about it other than the size, But you talk about
Speaker 9: the potential. So what's the ceiling and floor five years,
Speaker 9: ten years from now?
Speaker 7: Yet?
Speaker 19: I mean the floor is he doesn't play a position,
Speaker 19: the ability to hit for average doesn't translate, and he's
Speaker 19: he's he's not in the game.
Speaker 9: Anymore, right so, but that's potent. I mean that that
Speaker 9: that floor that has the potential to happen, is what
Speaker 9: you're saying.
Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean you have he is a super high ceiling,
Speaker 19: really low floor type prospect right now. I think that
Speaker 19: he I think that the swing and miss was bad
Speaker 19: a year ago.
Speaker 7: He eliminated that largely from his game this year. I
Speaker 7: think the.
Speaker 19: Ability to hit for average will translate if he finds
Speaker 19: a spot in the outfield. And I think what he
Speaker 19: could be is some of these power hitting guys who
Speaker 19: professional teams just sort.
Speaker 7: Of tried to hide and left.
Speaker 19: Think your right handed power bat's think Albert Bell, Think
Speaker 19: Manny Ramirez. I'm not saying he's gonna be a Hall
Speaker 19: of Famer, but I'm just saying a power bat who
Speaker 19: you had to put him somewhere, and so you stick
Speaker 19: him in left and he's athletic enough.
Speaker 1: To do it.
Speaker 7: I think that's his ceiling.
Speaker 19: He can be a ten year Big leaguer who plays
Speaker 19: left field and you know, hits in the middle of
Speaker 19: somebody's line up in clubs, you know, thirty homers a year, like,
Speaker 19: I think that's his ceiling, which is really exciting, which.
Speaker 7: I'm sure the Astros.
Speaker 19: Why the Astros were intrigued took him, it's just have
Speaker 19: not seen him play a position. So can he learn
Speaker 19: to play left field again?
Speaker 8: Matt Moscon at ESPN one oh four to five, joining
Speaker 8: us here in Atlanta at SEC Media Days, and let's
Speaker 8: switch over to some football because I know on a
Speaker 8: daily basis, you talk a team that we've got on
Speaker 8: our station LSU and a lot of hype around this
Speaker 8: team this year.
Speaker 1: You remember twenty nineteen and you remember.
Speaker 8: It was another year of Joe Burrow hearing about this
Speaker 8: new offense, all of those different types of things, but
Speaker 8: it was unproven. Brian Kelly's got the results. Can he
Speaker 8: prove it this year for this team?
Speaker 7: You know, it's so fun. I was thinking I was
Speaker 7: telling some of that story.
Speaker 19: So when Burrow was here before the twenty nineteen season,
Speaker 19: remember like at that point LSU was not known as
Speaker 19: a quarterback factor that they were still the I mean
Speaker 19: that was Danny yet Ling, and yeah, it was a graveyard.
Speaker 19: And Burrow came here and even in eighteen Burrow's first year,
Speaker 19: he went the entire month of October without throwing a
Speaker 19: touchdown pass, Like it was very hit or miss. And
Speaker 19: he came here to media days and he made a
Speaker 19: lot of headlines because he said, we know we got
Speaker 19: when I think we'll score forty fifty points a game
Speaker 19: this year, and everyone kind of like rolled their eyes
Speaker 19: and laugh, like the LSU quarterbacks said they're going to
Speaker 19: score forty a game. Well, they went on had the
Speaker 19: greatest offensive season in the history of the sport. I
Speaker 19: don't know that this team is going to do that,
Speaker 19: but they do return a fifth year senior and Garrett
Speaker 19: and us Meyer, who who is the leading returning passer
Speaker 19: in college football. He's the only four thousand yard passer
Speaker 19: from a season to go back in college football this year.
Speaker 19: So we know the potentials there with Garrett's gotta eliminate
Speaker 19: some of the mistakes be guys. The other big thing,
Speaker 19: aside from Nusmeyer returning LSU went Ham in the transfer portal.
Speaker 19: I think this is the other thing that a lot
Speaker 19: of people maybe are learning this week that they didn't realize.
Speaker 19: They signed eighteen guys in the portal and all of
Speaker 19: them were Power five starters. Some of them are all
Speaker 19: conference guys. AJ Halsey from the University of Houston was
Speaker 19: all Big twelve safety, led the nation interceptions. They're all
Speaker 19: in like Ole Miss and Ohio State were a year ago.
Speaker 19: They're all in this year financially in the portal with
Speaker 19: this roster to try to build a championship around us Meyer,
Speaker 19: and the playoff is the baseline. Like ten and two
Speaker 19: in the playoff is the baseline expectation for this team
Speaker 19: this year.
Speaker 9: Mattie, if he doesn't Brian Kelly doesn't get his team,
Speaker 9: and I'm big on Nussmeyer. I think that veteran will
Speaker 9: teams that. Look what Ohio State did getting that veteran
Speaker 9: even though they got it through the transfer portal, Look
Speaker 9: what it does. And I think it was a wise
Speaker 9: move for Nus to come back, and I love his game.
Speaker 9: Now that being said, with all this great ability they
Speaker 9: went out and got How hot is this end? And
Speaker 9: the pressure obviously grows for Brian Kelly. What's the one three?
Speaker 9: Since he's been at LSU and starters to start a season,
Speaker 9: it doesn't get any easier this year to start a season,
Speaker 9: and now with the playoff expanded to twelve teams and
Speaker 9: the money he makes, how hot is the seat if
Speaker 9: he doesn't make a playoff?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 19: See it's I mean, there's two ways to answer that question.
Speaker 19: It's what will the temperature and baton rouge be? And
Speaker 19: people will be furious And I think a lot of
Speaker 19: people who are maybe fence sitters on Brian Kelly waiting
Speaker 19: to see if he can break through, would fall to
Speaker 19: the other side on him. But realistically, Sean, if LSU
Speaker 19: were to fire Brian Kelly after this season, they would
Speaker 19: owe him fifty one.
Speaker 2: Million dollars money alone, says he can't.
Speaker 19: Right, not only that they won't, but literally sewn like
Speaker 19: they can't. It's not LSU is not a poverty program,
Speaker 19: but it's not a place like Texas A and M
Speaker 19: that could stroke the seventy five million dollar check for
Speaker 19: Jimbo ten times over and never blink right like the
Speaker 19: the money isn't there to pay a fifty one million
Speaker 19: dollar buyout to a coach.
Speaker 7: So the way I've said.
Speaker 19: It, man, is they gave him a ten year deal,
Speaker 19: ninety five million dollars, ninety percent of it guaranteed for
Speaker 19: better or worse. LSU and Brian Kelly are financially bound
Speaker 19: for a decade, so they've got to figure out a
Speaker 19: way to make it work. The quarterbacks there this year,
Speaker 19: the investment is there this year, and the roster they
Speaker 19: have to be in the playoff.
Speaker 7: If they're not.
Speaker 19: The problem that they would get to is in twenty
Speaker 19: twenty six, you lose us, you lose all these transfers.
Speaker 19: I think it's realistic to expect they whatever they do
Speaker 19: in twenty five, I think you expect a regression in
Speaker 19: twenty six, and that's when they might start looking Okay,
Speaker 19: what's our what's our exit strategy?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 8: As I mentioned, Matt Moscon at ESPN one oh four
Speaker 8: five joining us, and we have LSU on the station
Speaker 8: and LSU fans listen to the station living in Houston,
Speaker 8: and if they are LSU fans, well they probably know
Speaker 8: who you are. You're gonna be in Houston here pretty soon,
Speaker 8: aren't you.
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 19: Man, a week from Monday, So the twenty eighth will
Speaker 19: be at the Rustic, Can I say?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 19: At the Rustic in downtown for my show to be
Speaker 19: an LSU alumni event. So any Houston Tigers that are
Speaker 19: hanging out, man, you want to come see us, We'll
Speaker 19: be there for the radio show from three to six
Speaker 19: Central at the Rustic in Houston on Monday the twenty eighth.
Speaker 2: Hey, Madde, we said, go ahead and finish.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Oh sorry?
Speaker 19: So yeah, they we're gonna go watch the Astros Nationals
Speaker 19: because Dylan Cruz and the Nationals will be in the
Speaker 19: take on the Strows.
Speaker 2: That's all go.
Speaker 9: You guys will if you haven't heard it, you'll love
Speaker 9: it and go see him in person. That'd be awesome
Speaker 9: and it's always a pleasure. To have you on before
Speaker 9: we let you go at who's the best team in
Speaker 9: college football in your mind? If you had to make
Speaker 9: a bet tomorrow, who would it.
Speaker 2: Be on.
Speaker 7: Talent wise? I'd probably say Texas.
Speaker 19: Uh, but I have a giant question about Texas, like
Speaker 19: I do with most of the teams who are projected
Speaker 19: at the top, and it's a quarterback. I mean, I
Speaker 19: understand all the hype around arch I understand all the
Speaker 19: physical ability.
Speaker 7: But until you do it, I don't know if you
Speaker 7: can do it.
Speaker 19: So the you know, the best roster I would say,
Speaker 19: I think is Texas, but I think it's really pretty
Speaker 19: wide open because it's not too far after that I
Speaker 19: would look at at LSU because of what they did
Speaker 19: in the transfer portal. I think it'd be fascinating to
Speaker 19: see how many teams this he gets in this year
Speaker 19: because I'm not sold on Georgia. I'm not Georgia with
Speaker 19: a new quarterback. Fifty four percent of George's roster our
Speaker 19: first or second year players. Extremely young team this year
Speaker 19: that Kirby's got team that was thirtieth in the country
Speaker 19: in total defense.
Speaker 7: Last year they sort of regressed.
Speaker 19: They were fifteenth in the SEC and rushing offense, and
Speaker 19: I'm not I think Georgia isn't there. Who knows what
Speaker 19: BAMA has with with ty Simpson. It just feels like
Speaker 19: all the teams that everyone expects to be at the
Speaker 19: top of this giant, glaring question market quarterback except LSU,
Speaker 19: which is why I think they're going to be in
Speaker 19: that conversation.
Speaker 1: For sure, Matt, appreciate the time.
Speaker 8: Man Again, Matt Moscona, ESPN one oh four five, joining
Speaker 8: us here on the On Salisbury Show, and look forward
Speaker 8: to seeing you a what a week from Mondays from
Speaker 8: Monday twenty ago, So we'll definitely drop by to.
Speaker 2: Say always good to talk to you, brother. I appreciate you.
Speaker 7: Thanks Sean, you bet, Thanks Dan, Thanks Bellos.
Speaker 8: Yeah, there we go, Matt Moscona hopping in with us
Speaker 8: from ESPN one oh four to five in Baton Rouge.
Speaker 8: Some interesting things to kick around from that conversation at
Speaker 8: Sean and also what.
Speaker 1: We talked about a little bit earlier with the Texans.
Speaker 1: Got a little bit of a note on that.
Speaker 8: As we continue on here me and Atlanta, Sean INTRIPOLEI
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Speaker 8: Up front trying to be able to be more physical
Speaker 8: on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1: I do remember after.
Speaker 8: The twenty twenty three season ended, it was Tamiko Ryans
Speaker 8: up the podium and he said, we've got to be better.
Speaker 8: We've got to be deeper on the defensive side of
Speaker 8: the ball. They did that last year. They were very
Speaker 8: good up front last year on the defensive side of
Speaker 8: the football, and it wasn't a reason why they lost
Speaker 8: football games. It was on the offensive side, namely the
Speaker 8: offensive line. Similar thing was said after season, and it
Speaker 8: does seem like they made those moves to be able
Speaker 8: to try to rectify some of those issues upfront. Now
Speaker 8: it's just a thing of those guys, how do they
Speaker 8: fit in and how do they perform when they're out
Speaker 8: there on the field.
Speaker 9: Yeah, the Rappers have changed, meaning the players up front,
Speaker 9: but the attitude and the approach has to be better.
Speaker 9: They have to be better. They got punked at times
Speaker 9: last year. They the cold hard facts are that they
Speaker 9: did not They did not protect and block in the past.
Speaker 9: Protection wise, they didn't handle. I'm talking about they didn't
Speaker 9: even handle just basic stunts. They just didn't and basic
Speaker 9: they didn't. They were they were They underachieved in that
Speaker 9: area too, and they're gonna have to get better. And
Speaker 9: then the physicality that goes along with it. Sometimes it
Speaker 9: just becomes a body blow game where you know you're
Speaker 9: not flailing a way and have to finesse them, but
Speaker 9: you're just gonna have to punch somebody in a gut.
Speaker 9: And you watch the team Philadelphia did that in the
Speaker 9: Super Bowl and then their quarterback did well what pressure
Speaker 9: quarterbacks do. And I think, quite frankly to digress that
Speaker 9: Jalen Hurts is one of the more underrated since he's
Speaker 9: a Texas got one of the more underrated players in
Speaker 9: the league.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 9: I don't think he gets enough credit here. We know
Speaker 9: the quarterback gets a lot of credit. But I got
Speaker 9: news for you. The Super Bowl champions offensive line moved
Speaker 9: piles dominated the Kansas City Chiefs two losses in the
Speaker 9: Super Bowls. Guess what happened with them? They got dominated
Speaker 9: by a front seven. Those are those two losses in
Speaker 9: the Super Bowl, and it happened the second one happened
Speaker 9: this time. So Philadelphia and Tampa Bay have both got them.
Speaker 9: So if this team has aspirations to go where we
Speaker 9: think and that's to February, and that's not far fetched
Speaker 9: because they're really good and they will get they'll move
Speaker 9: the ball around plenty. We don't know how the coordinator
Speaker 9: is going to call plays. I'm assuming pretty damn aggressive
Speaker 9: and get after it. But you get to be more
Speaker 9: aggressive when you got Mixing and Chubb, and you get
Speaker 9: to be more aggressive when and be able to play
Speaker 9: in a game that's not a shootout. You get to
Speaker 9: play in a game where you're actually playing somebody that
Speaker 9: matches your physicality. And in the past and last year
Speaker 9: they got pushed around by teams that were a little
Speaker 9: more physical, and that had to be the number one party.
Speaker 9: Demiko got that message out to the defense.
Speaker 1: It worked.
Speaker 9: I think they're one of the best defenses in the league,
Speaker 9: and a young one at that. The offensive line regardless
Speaker 9: who they are, and I don't have a problem with
Speaker 9: them moving tunsl good on them, and it'll be good
Speaker 9: for Washington because he's a good player.
Speaker 2: But I need five.
Speaker 9: Solid ones more than one good one, and four that
Speaker 9: are like well it depends in the right position. Are
Speaker 9: they physical, and hopefully it'll cut down part of the discipline,
Speaker 9: not just the physicality. Part of that discipline and domination physically.
Speaker 9: We're talking about is give yourself a chance pre snap penalties.
Speaker 9: If you're at first in fifteen or third and ten
Speaker 9: and then you get a fire and now it's third
Speaker 9: and fifteen, you ain't getting many first downs and you
Speaker 9: don't get to play physical. Now you're forced into finesse.
Speaker 9: So that was self inflicted crap led by the left tackle.
Speaker 9: Good player, he's not crap, but the decisions to constantly
Speaker 9: jump off sides. This team offensively last year so good
Speaker 9: that they moved on. Now you got to get some
Speaker 9: answers and some response from the rest of this team
Speaker 9: and live up to the talk of we're going to
Speaker 9: be more physical and we'll go find out because there's
Speaker 9: plenty who can hit you in the mouth, and I'd
Speaker 9: like to see them come back with body blows and
Speaker 9: see how that responds for them.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 8: And it's also too, I mean, the penalty part of
Speaker 8: what you were talking about there is what hurt them
Speaker 8: last season, where they would have a lead like they
Speaker 8: did on Sunday, night Football against the Lions, and because
Speaker 8: they were unable to stay disciplined and allowed for Detroit
Speaker 8: to be able to get back into that game. That's
Speaker 8: why they lost that game. I mean even other games too.
Speaker 8: It was pretty much close games last year were not
Speaker 8: going to go in their favor because of how they played.
Speaker 9: In that regard, even in wins, at times they got
Speaker 9: pushed around. They're fortunate they have some really good players
Speaker 9: and the defense did a hell of a job last
Speaker 9: year as well. It didn't just put them in trouble,
Speaker 9: it crushed them. Their ability to get penalties was uncanny.
Speaker 9: In my life, I have never seen a player or
Speaker 9: a team, especially a player. So that's a high paid
Speaker 9: player that's supposed to be a dominant player. I can
Speaker 9: never consider a dominant player that kills my team during
Speaker 9: pre snap. Tunts is a good player, make no mistake.
Speaker 9: He's not the best left tack in the league. Now,
Speaker 9: Washington may get themselves a damn good one. He's talented
Speaker 9: as hell. But until you can be disciplined enough a
Speaker 9: pre snap and penalty wise, I can't put you in
Speaker 9: the class of the guys who don't do that. When
Speaker 9: the ball snapped a pretty damn good player, So you
Speaker 9: had to eliminate that, and if you couldn't eliminate it,
Speaker 9: then you're in the same problem. And the year before
Speaker 9: he was penalized a lot, so you, truthfully, you got
Speaker 9: rid of a bunch of penalties. Now let's hope that
Speaker 9: that improves, because pre snap penalties didn't hurt him. Pre
Speaker 9: snap penalties and penalties around killed them offensively. You can't
Speaker 9: win games on second and fourteen, you just can't. You'll
Speaker 9: get him once in a while. That's too much to overcome.
Speaker 9: And this year it has to be different. If they
Speaker 9: cut down on the penalties and are able to choke
Speaker 9: you out once in a while physically, and well not
Speaker 9: just once in a while, the majority of the time,
Speaker 9: the rest will take care of itself because if you're
Speaker 9: not physical, pillow fights don't win NFL football games, and
Speaker 9: they sure as hell don't win championships.
Speaker 8: No, the complete opposite does. And you talked about the
Speaker 8: Philadelphia Eagles. They showed that in a huge way when
Speaker 8: they took down the Chiefs in the fashion they.
Speaker 1: Did in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 8: So hopefully the Sexans can turn that page in twenty
Speaker 8: twenty five. Adrian C You right, there working into the
Speaker 8: conversation as the show continues along.
Speaker 1: But Chris Gordy our Thursday visit with him.
Speaker 8: Normally we do it at the top of the hour
Speaker 8: today because of Matt Moscona joining us doing it at
Speaker 8: the bottom of the hour here as we continue along
Speaker 8: here on the Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 8: But Sean, we talked about him a little bit earlier.
Speaker 8: Let's talk about jbar and Barbecue again. Because when I
Speaker 8: say elite, thick cut, juicy, really good brisket, who am
Speaker 8: I talking about?
Speaker 9: Well, you have obviously jbar and Barbecue. And I can
Speaker 9: remember the very first time I went in there and
Speaker 9: went through the line and just saw the setup. You know,
Speaker 9: optics matter to me because man, clean, spacious outdoors where
Speaker 9: you can go there, you know, on a Saturday and
Speaker 9: get yourself watching a game or Astros pregame and postgame.
Speaker 9: But you don't need an event surrounding you to want
Speaker 9: to get in your car and drive an hour away
Speaker 9: to get to the best barbecue. If you like barbecue,
Speaker 9: Please don't tell me all the barbecue in Texas is
Speaker 9: the same. It's not, and it's sure as hell isn't
Speaker 9: the same. Unless you're telling me it's elite, and you are,
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Speaker 2: You just need to know.
Speaker 9: It's a twenty two oh one Leland and it is
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Speaker 9: is off the chart. So if you like indoor outdoor
Speaker 9: entertainment and you like location and you want someplace to go,
Speaker 9: you found it.
Speaker 2: It's Jbarn Barbecue.
Speaker 8: And I mean you see it when you see that
Speaker 8: spacious parking lot that is secure and you are able
Speaker 8: to park your car head right in and the head
Speaker 8: right back out.
Speaker 1: Because we know how Edo is.
Speaker 8: We know that a lot of times, Hey meet me
Speaker 8: down here, nah Man, parking is gonna be hard. Not
Speaker 8: the case at jbar M Barbecue. And then you see
Speaker 8: it even more. Then you smell it as soon as
Speaker 8: you walk in the door. You know there is that
Speaker 8: delicious brisket right there, the jalapeno cheddar sausage.
Speaker 1: Sean.
Speaker 8: I mentioned a couple other things on the menu that
Speaker 8: have been catching my eye that I really want to
Speaker 8: check out next time I'm in there.
Speaker 1: The brisket burger.
Speaker 8: How about even those pretzel bites with that caso dip
Speaker 8: to go along with it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'll just say this before we go did If
Speaker 9: I was you, I'd try it all. I mean, if
Speaker 9: you go in there three or four times, get something different,
Speaker 9: and when you walk out of there, the hardest choice
Speaker 9: you'll make is not whether you're coming back or not.
Speaker 9: It's like, well, damn, I liked all four of them,
Speaker 9: So yeah, try it all. Because we had that platter
Speaker 9: where it's a bunch of different stuff and I can't
Speaker 9: tell you right now what my favorite is because there's
Speaker 9: too many of them.
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Speaker 1: Sean. We're supposed to have Chris Gordy right now.
Speaker 8: And remember the really loud guy I told you about,
Speaker 8: you know, earlier in the week, and maybe I sent
Speaker 8: you guys a video of them.
Speaker 1: You remember that guy? Yeah? Does ring any bells? Well?
Speaker 8: Anyway, Gordy's doing an interview with him right now, so
Speaker 8: I guess he just lost track of time.
Speaker 1: But we'll catch up with Gordy here in just a
Speaker 1: little bit. But while we're.
Speaker 8: Waiting on him, did you see that Deep Portnoy might
Speaker 8: be part of Big Noon kickoff for Fox?
Speaker 2: I did, Well, I think that.
Speaker 9: I mean they've talked about not only signing him to
Speaker 9: be part of it, but also taking Barstool content and
Speaker 9: putting on Fox's platform.
Speaker 2: So I don't think it might be.
Speaker 9: I think it's a foregone conclusion that they he and
Speaker 9: their group at Barstool are going to have a different
Speaker 9: added platform two uh, not only to their platform but
Speaker 9: at it and Eyes and Visuals. But I think Portnoy
Speaker 9: will probably be joining Urban Meyer and mark Ingram and
Speaker 9: and h Brady Quinn and Matt Liinert. And I still
Speaker 9: think though, isn't the hostile Rob Rob Stone. I think
Speaker 9: that's the group Stone so that no, he's Reggie Bush
Speaker 9: hasn't been on it for he wasn't on it last
Speaker 9: year either. Mark Ingram took over for him. Oh you
Speaker 9: Blue Bush's Bush hasn't been on and this will be
Speaker 9: year two.
Speaker 2: I think maybe year three, but year two for sure.
Speaker 9: So out of that group, you know, you know, you
Speaker 9: know the message they're trying. They're trying to have a
Speaker 9: Pat McAfee type guy on that set. Now, I don't
Speaker 9: know the extent of it. Will he be throughout the
Speaker 9: whole show or will it just be bits and pieces
Speaker 9: where he's in the audience going around?
Speaker 2: You know what will he do?
Speaker 9: But you know, Barstools built something pretty big and Porto's
Speaker 9: Portnoy's at the forefront of it, so good on him,
Speaker 9: and uh, if they're gonna I'm sure to see if
Speaker 9: it works. And uh, I'm anxious to see how it
Speaker 9: does because they got a big dog to chase and
Speaker 9: that that that Countdown Show or should I say Countdown
Speaker 9: that Game Day show is pretty impressive. But you know what,
Speaker 9: you're trying to close the gap of competition, and they'll
Speaker 9: see if Barstool and Portnoy came. Good on Barstool, They've
Speaker 9: they've made an impact and they've got a lot of following,
Speaker 9: and Portnoy obviously, and you'll get what they love is
Speaker 9: that you're going to get the you're going to get
Speaker 9: the hate and you're going to get the love for him,
Speaker 9: which is in truth what you want. You want somebody
Speaker 9: you want to watch because you dislike it, and you
Speaker 9: want to watch because you like it. You can't have
Speaker 9: everybody loving it because people will just take it for granted.
Speaker 2: You've got to have both.
Speaker 9: In Portnoy is a light you drive for that and
Speaker 9: uh isn't a shy of an opinion, and it's built
Speaker 9: something pretty good and special at at barstool.
Speaker 8: Yeah, And you know, the the advantage that College Game
Speaker 8: Day has is they've got pretty much all throughout the country.
Speaker 8: It's hey, where do we want to go? Next week?
Speaker 8: We'll go to Ohio State. Hey to where we want
Speaker 8: to go? The following week, we'll go to Alabama you
Speaker 8: or you know, go to Notre Dame whoever it is
Speaker 8: whereas Big newt kickoff. It's pretty much is it a
Speaker 8: Big ten school? And that's where they'll go. So, I mean,
Speaker 8: I think that's something else that they kind of fight
Speaker 8: uphill against College Game Day on.
Speaker 9: It's a bigger production, they spend more on it, they've
Speaker 9: been doing it longer. It's tough to it's tough to
Speaker 9: close that gap. Although I think Fox has as a
Speaker 9: good group, it's just the entertainment. There's just a different level.
Speaker 9: It's it's a it's a hill to climb, but you
Speaker 9: know what, there's room for more than one and Fox
Speaker 9: has proven that and they've got good, strong opinion, but
Speaker 9: it's a trying to unseat that group. And look at
Speaker 9: the names Herb Street Star, Pat McAfee star, Nick Saban Starr,
Speaker 9: Rhys Davis is good a host and and traffic cop
Speaker 9: on a pregame show, Is There Is on a Planet?
Speaker 9: Desmond Howard Star. They're loaded. They're just freaking loaded. So
Speaker 9: it's fun competition and I think it's good for Fox
Speaker 9: to experiment with it and see where it goes, because
Speaker 9: you know you're gonna have eyes and visuals there and
Speaker 9: it's a good platform to extend their brand. And obviously Fox,
Speaker 9: which you saw the changes this week with them dropping
Speaker 9: three show after show after show and moving talent on.
Speaker 9: They're looking for a kick in the ass and the
Speaker 9: guy who hired all those shows is no longer the
Speaker 9: executive is no longer there, so they're trying to upgrade it.
Speaker 9: And it's a good place to start because of not
Speaker 9: only name value. But because the optics that barstool brings.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it does seem like there is a little bit
Speaker 8: of a renovation going on over there at Fox Sports
Speaker 8: FS one, and that's part of their network.
Speaker 1: But if you want to.
Speaker 8: Weigh in on the conversation, you can do so seon
Speaker 8: one three two, one, two five seven ninety. Conrad James
Speaker 8: wants to hop in at James. What's going on?
Speaker 20: Yeah, and it's always a pleasure. Again, I willow gentlemen. Also,
Speaker 20: I tacked my grandkids to the Satin and Rangers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're gonna put you.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Conrad, he he has a different Yeah.
Speaker 13: He just wants to know what you guys think about
Speaker 13: cutting Lance mccolors.
Speaker 1: Is it time to let him go?
Speaker 9: And by the Conrad James, we just you kept cutting
Speaker 9: in and out. That's why we're not trying to get
Speaker 9: you off for any time purposes. We just we can't
Speaker 9: hear you. Go ahead, Dan, if you want to.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 9: I think you have to visit what the future is
Speaker 9: with Lance mccolors. But I think the teaser is about
Speaker 9: every other start and he's given you something really good,
Speaker 9: and then he's given you something at home that hasn't
Speaker 9: been good.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 9: I don't know if they're going to DFAM. I wouldn't
Speaker 9: think they're going to. I don't think they can afford
Speaker 9: to right now. When it comes to arms. I think
Speaker 9: depth wise they have to. Now, who knows moving forward,
Speaker 9: I don't think they're there yet. I don't know about you, Dan,
Speaker 9: but I'm gonna say that you're not prepared. That they're
Speaker 9: not prepared, especially with it if everybody was healthy, I
Speaker 9: don't know, maybe you'd consider trying to move him. But
Speaker 9: they quite frankly need the arm, but you also need
Speaker 9: the road Lance mccolors at home, that's the guy you
Speaker 9: got to get.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's two. I don't thinks you just mentioned.
Speaker 8: I mean the depth part of it of really needing him,
Speaker 8: but also the you know part of how he's been
Speaker 8: on the road.
Speaker 1: He's actually been incredibly.
Speaker 8: Good some one or if I'm not mistaken, on the
Speaker 8: road this year, but he's not been great at home.
Speaker 8: I would say that if you were looking at a
Speaker 8: clock of is it at midnight for your decision to
Speaker 8: go ahead and send him packing, you're at about ten
Speaker 8: o'clock right now, Like I don't. I don't think that
Speaker 8: you're that far away from it. But you're also not
Speaker 8: that close away from making that decision because I mean,
Speaker 8: I think that you've already sunk cost in a couple
Speaker 8: of other guys. Do you really want to do that
Speaker 8: with a third guy that you're paying to not be
Speaker 8: part of your team. Or if you do DFAM and
Speaker 8: somebody else takes him on, I mean, you probably still
Speaker 8: have to believe you're you're taking on a huge amount
Speaker 8: of that money. So I just I think for the
Speaker 8: other reasons you just mentioned, that's what went outs first
Speaker 8: and foremost. But no, I don't see that much.
Speaker 9: And I don't think you're for the money he's making.
Speaker 9: In the injury history and what you've seen, the inconsistency,
Speaker 9: I don't think right now that there'd be a whole
Speaker 9: lot of people stand in line to trade for him
Speaker 9: and that salary. So the df if you were going
Speaker 9: to so the best option of the three right now
Speaker 9: considering health. But if he was fully healthy, he had
Speaker 9: eight starters and the money, well you're not gonna train,
Speaker 9: but you thought, well, you know what, we're gonna pay
Speaker 9: him anyway, because it's baseball, you would probably have to
Speaker 9: consider that at least it would be something you would
Speaker 9: talk about. But I don't think they're there yet for
Speaker 9: those reasons that we just mentioned.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and those are the reasons that went out and
Speaker 8: another chance for us to be able to catch up
Speaker 8: with Chris Gordy here at SEC Media Days, he wrapped
Speaker 8: up his interviews, so he's gonna hang out with us
Speaker 8: for the final segment, Shawn, So we'll do that here
Speaker 8: as me and him wrap up. Are part of the
Speaker 8: week from here in Atlanta, But we'll do that right here.
Speaker 8: It is a Seawn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.
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Speaker 2: That's goodiful.
Speaker 1: He's Chris Gordy. Gordy.
Speaker 8: I don't know if you heard when we had scoring
Speaker 8: on with us Matt Moscona, but Seawan had asked him
Speaker 8: who he believes is the best team in college football
Speaker 8: this year, and he kind of struggled in terms of
Speaker 8: he threw out some names, but he wasn't necessarily committed
Speaker 8: to anyone.
Speaker 1: Is that what the twenty twenty five college football season is?
Speaker 1: I think it is.
Speaker 16: I think it's wide open. You know, Sean and I
Speaker 16: have talked about it for a couple of weeks. Who's
Speaker 16: who's the best team? I mean, you know, Ohio State
Speaker 16: won the national championship and they they lose a ton
Speaker 16: off that team, They're still.
Speaker 1: Gonna be really good.
Speaker 16: They're still gonna be loaded but you know, Clemson's loaded
Speaker 16: in the ACC. I think a lot of these SEC
Speaker 16: teams are loaded. So yeah, it does feel like one
Speaker 16: of those years. And the playoffs has changed the dynamic too.
Speaker 16: I mean, you could have a team you think is
Speaker 16: the best team, make the playoff and be one and done.
Speaker 16: Allah Oregon, I mean the Oregon hype every year. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 16: great Oregon, when are you gonna do something? Dan Landing,
Speaker 16: I mean, no offense, but like you know, keep hearing
Speaker 16: how great Dan Lanning is and he's top recruiting classes
Speaker 16: and all this, but go win something. I mean, when
Speaker 16: Oregon gets hyped up every year and then falls falls short.
Speaker 16: So I don't know, But but Sean the highlight of
Speaker 16: the day so far. I don't know why they saved
Speaker 16: Missouri's Eli Drinkwitz for the last day here at media days.
Speaker 16: He should have been the first day. Gets up at
Speaker 16: the podium and says, I'm not going to answer any
Speaker 16: questions about the Epstein file. So that was quite a
Speaker 16: way to start SEC Media Day Day four.
Speaker 9: Well, I think they probably time it because at the beginning,
Speaker 9: everybody's pumped anyway, so you don't really care the guys
Speaker 9: that they're just running him out.
Speaker 2: At the end.
Speaker 9: You guys have been working, you're all tired, and it's like, well,
Speaker 9: let's bring this guy in for a little bit of
Speaker 9: red bull into our veins and bam, there you go
Speaker 9: right off the start. I love it and I love him,
Speaker 9: and man does he do a great job with the program.
Speaker 9: And Gordian and Dan along with this and talking about
Speaker 9: who the best team is and you guys can respond
Speaker 9: to this, and Matt had kind of alluded to it too.
Speaker 9: Think about the good teams in the country, and I'll
Speaker 9: expand this, think about the good teams in the country
Speaker 9: that lost quarterbacks. Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia. You start to
Speaker 9: go through teams that have lost even Texas now start
Speaker 9: to go so winning down. I guess my point is
Speaker 9: not saying these teams are going to win the national title,
Speaker 9: but if you're sitting on the fence, start to look
Speaker 9: around at the teams who kept their coordinator or kept
Speaker 9: their head coach, but also have that veteran LSU I'm
Speaker 9: talking about when push comes to shop Leonora's sellers. That
Speaker 9: is good South Carolina team Jackson Dart gone at Ole Miss.
Speaker 9: So there's a problem. Then you start to take a
Speaker 9: look at around the country those guys who have a
Speaker 9: veteran quarterback that's been in it. So if you're sitting
Speaker 9: on the fence and saying, well, who, I don't know
Speaker 9: if those teams can win it, but you can do
Speaker 9: a lot worse than having a team that's got a
Speaker 9: veteran quarterback that's a top ten, top fifteen team, because
Speaker 9: like the Sellers of the world and the Nuts Smyers
Speaker 9: of the world are at a different level, and a
Speaker 9: lot of the quarterbacks so I think there's a lot
Speaker 9: The biggest question in college football this year is which
Speaker 9: quarterback can elevate his good team and which one's going
Speaker 9: to fall off Gordy.
Speaker 16: And that's the thing. There's so many quarterbacks that are
Speaker 16: different stages of that.
Speaker 9: And Club Nicket at Clemson two, who I think is fantastic.
Speaker 2: That's a good advantage team that can the whole thing.
Speaker 16: And we're gonna see two of those guys week one.
Speaker 16: Lsu A Clemson. We got to see not Smart versus
Speaker 16: Club Nick that those might be your your two Heisman
Speaker 16: favorites right there outside of arch Well when we get
Speaker 16: to see what he does. But I'll tell you this Seoan.
Speaker 16: I got to sit down with the DJ Lagway yesterday.
Speaker 2: You know, the willis special kid.
Speaker 16: Oh my God, like standing next to him, he's huge,
Speaker 16: he's I mean, he is the He has the body
Speaker 16: of an NFL quarterback already, and then he's got a
Speaker 16: baby face to go with it. And you go, God,
Speaker 16: check back in with this kid in two years and
Speaker 16: tell me where he is. I mean, it's literally and
Speaker 16: I goes goes back, Sean. I was talking to a
Speaker 16: national guy on the on the field at the Cotton
Speaker 16: Bowl as they're watching Arch Manning warm up. Guy says,
Speaker 16: you know what, there's gonna be a lot of hype
Speaker 16: about him for the number one NFL draft pick, obviously with.
Speaker 1: The Manning name.
Speaker 16: But what if I told you the twenty twenty sixth
Speaker 16: draft he goes number two because DJ Lagways number one.
Speaker 9: Gordy, real quick, I know we got to get rolling here.
Speaker 9: But Dan and you are one hundred percent correct. A
Speaker 9: couple of years ago, maybe well it was a few
Speaker 9: years more than a couple. I had him when he
Speaker 9: was in high school a camp. He was in my
Speaker 9: group at the camp, so they gave to me because
Speaker 9: I coached the high school kids, and the boss of
Speaker 9: the camp said, keep it eye of this guy. They said, well,
Speaker 9: tell us what you think about this guy. And I
Speaker 9: didn't know him.
Speaker 1: He was yelling.
Speaker 9: He was like a sophomore I think, or a freshmer
Speaker 9: sophomore going into his junior year, sophomore year. And I said, okay,
Speaker 9: big kids didn't say much. And after about two drills,
Speaker 9: I looked over and said, you wanted who the best
Speaker 9: one in the group is that guy? And he'd only
Speaker 9: throw like fifteen passes and it was DJ Lagway, phenomenal kid,
Speaker 9: two ears in one mouth and used him accordingly, he's
Speaker 9: special and he's different, and right now, just on body
Speaker 9: type and performance alone, he is a top type pick
Speaker 9: in this draft. He's a special kid with a special
Speaker 9: skill set.
Speaker 16: Well, he'll visit with us at six o'clock tonight, right
Speaker 16: here on seven night.
Speaker 1: You don't want to miss that.
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Speaker 1: You heard the man. He's Chris Gordy Sean.
Speaker 9: Solid stuff, guys. Good job this week by all both
Speaker 9: of you guys. Thank you you too much.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Buddy.
Speaker 8: It'll be good to have the band back together tomorrow,
Speaker 8: because we will talk to you in twenty hours right
Speaker 8: here on The Shawn Salisbury Show, The Matt Thomas Show
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