Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
Speaker 1: AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app. Those two New York Yankees fans
Speaker 1: who were ejected from Game four last night for interfering
Speaker 1: with Mookie Betts's catch have.
Speaker 2: Been banned from Game five to night.
Speaker 1: The league and the club released a statement saying that
Speaker 1: they will not be permitted at the game. They said,
Speaker 1: last night, two fans were ejected from Yankee Stadium for
Speaker 1: a grageous and unacceptable physical contact with Mooky Betts. The
Speaker 1: safety and security of players, fans, and stadium staff is
Speaker 1: the foundational element of every event at Yankee Stadium.
Speaker 3: And if you saw the highlights, you saw the guy
Speaker 3: who grabbed Mooki's hand, grabbed his wrist. He was trying
Speaker 3: to explain to the security guys they were on the
Speaker 3: field something. He's kind of running his hand back and
Speaker 3: forth along the top of the wall like he crossed
Speaker 3: the wall.
Speaker 4: And that's like we have free he can touch the players. Bro,
Speaker 4: your job is you're with the play patrol the wall.
Speaker 3: But he and that was the other thing is that
Speaker 3: he was telling again somehow an ESPN reporter producer caught
Speaker 3: up with these guys after or after they were kicked
Speaker 3: out a bar, assume they just followed him right outside
Speaker 3: the game, but was asking them about what do you know,
Speaker 3: what were you thinking? And they said they regularly sit
Speaker 3: there and they regularly have that discussion of what they
Speaker 3: would do if that exact play comes to them in
Speaker 3: that the ball comes their way or the player catches
Speaker 3: the ball and kind of falls into the stands or
Speaker 3: something like that. And they've said repeatedly, we're gonna, We're
Speaker 3: gonna d up. You gonna You're not guarding the basket
Speaker 3: in the NBA.
Speaker 4: You d'd up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro yea dead up. So we haven't died up
Speaker 1: since Little League. And even then you were on the
Speaker 1: left side of the pine.
Speaker 3: See the Yankees forced at least a game five with
Speaker 3: an eleven to four win over the Dodgers last night.
Speaker 3: They'll play again tonight five aweight. For his pitch, This
Speaker 3: will be a pitching rematch. It looks like from game one,
Speaker 3: so Jack Flaherty against Garrett Well.
Speaker 1: A lot of pollsters respected pollsters were wildly off in
Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen and twenty twenty presidential elections. Will this
Speaker 1: stay status quo for this one. It's where we kick
Speaker 1: off swamp watch.
Speaker 4: Swamp is horrible, the government doesn't work.
Speaker 2: Man, gonna make it like a reality TV shoot.
Speaker 4: Corp was a bad doos always.
Speaker 2: A pleasure to be anywhere from Washington, d C. Hey, Joe.
Speaker 4: A town hall too.
Speaker 2: Clearly built on a swamp and in so many ways.
Speaker 5: Still a swamp.
Speaker 4: I have a batch of malarkey.
Speaker 5: What he said, drained the swamp? I said, Oh, that's
Speaker 5: so he keep yepp wash.
Speaker 1: You know. The thing is the polling that we do
Speaker 1: in this country, is the system broken? Do we need
Speaker 1: to correct some fixes in methodology?
Speaker 2: Eight years ago?
Speaker 1: And I do think part just disclaimer And for me,
Speaker 1: I do think part of that is with Trump, because
Speaker 1: I do think there's a section of the population that
Speaker 1: will vote for him, but we'll never admit it to anybody.
Speaker 4: Yeah quiet, what are they called quiet Trump voters?
Speaker 2: Or yeah?
Speaker 1: So eight years ago, the national polls predicted an easy
Speaker 1: victory for Hillary Right up until election day. Nine to
Speaker 1: ten polls overstated her support. In twenty twenty, polls showed
Speaker 1: Biden with a strong lead over Trump. Just before the election,
Speaker 1: Biden led by eight point four points in five thirty
Speaker 1: eight's average seven point two points in Real Clear Politics average. However,
Speaker 1: he won the popular vote by less than four point
Speaker 1: five points, just enough for the electoral college victory.
Speaker 3: That doesn't seem like that big of an error. You know,
Speaker 3: even if you take the larger of those two the
Speaker 3: eight point four percent lead for Biden in five thirty
Speaker 3: eight down to four point five, that's only you know,
Speaker 3: that's a four point difference, and a lot of those
Speaker 3: polls that would be within the margin of error if
Speaker 3: they were using this methodology. But that's four percent of
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty five million votes is a lot.
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you this, it may not seem like
Speaker 1: a lot. But if the polls are off by that
Speaker 1: margin this year, then her lead, Kamala Harris's lead could
Speaker 1: mean Trump is actually ahead and heading for an electoral landslide.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you look at just the the
Speaker 3: that Real Clear Politics average since say late June, this
Speaker 3: would have taken into account the debate, It would have
Speaker 3: taken into account the assassination attempt, Biden dropping out. The
Speaker 3: two tickets, whether it's Harris or Biden at the top
Speaker 3: of the Democratic ticket, they've never been separated by more
Speaker 3: than about two percentage points for the average of polls.
Speaker 3: There were polls that were much bigger than that, but
Speaker 3: the average of polls, and as of right now, Real
Speaker 3: Clear Politics says that Trump has taken back some of
Speaker 3: the momentum and leads by four tenths of a percent
Speaker 3: in the Real Clear Politics average. And this is after
Speaker 3: oh gosh, a couple of months of Harris leading. Back
Speaker 3: in the beginning of August, she took the lead again
Speaker 3: by mere tenths of a percentage point, but that she
Speaker 3: has been leading most of the time until just the
Speaker 3: last few days, when Trump has climbed back up on
Speaker 3: top of those the average of polls.
Speaker 1: There was an article in Reason about well, here's the headline,
Speaker 1: Trump is not thoughtful enough to be a fascist. And
Speaker 1: I think they have a point there. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's not planning out a world denomination, domination, domination. Excuse me, No,
Speaker 1: He's an egomaniac.
Speaker 2: Take that for what you will, good or bad.
Speaker 1: He's all about winning himself, winning and his brand and
Speaker 1: his name. He's not about dominating the country or the
Speaker 1: world with his political schemes and militaries. Is he A
Speaker 1: lot of people believe he is, but that they hit
Speaker 1: on that he's not thoughtful enough. He hasn't sat down
Speaker 1: and cocktail napkinder that it's.
Speaker 4: Not what motivates him.
Speaker 3: No, his selfishness motivates him, right, But I don't know
Speaker 3: if it extends any further than that. Well, obviously we've
Speaker 3: talked about the negative views that people have when it
Speaker 3: comes to politics. We'll be talking in just a couple
Speaker 3: moments with Denise Gitcham about this report. Sixty five percent
Speaker 3: of Americans say they always or often feel exhausted when
Speaker 3: they think about politics.
Speaker 2: Do you want your jeopardy question first? Before we have
Speaker 2: a guest, Give.
Speaker 4: Me that elmer, Give me that computer? Sound over there?
Speaker 2: The home phones for one thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: A sense of style and a sudden solar explosion. Homophones
Speaker 1: are words that sound the same but are spelled differently.
Speaker 4: What are the two things? A solar explosion?
Speaker 1: A sudden solar explosion and a sense of style?
Speaker 4: No idea what you're going for?
Speaker 2: Flair?
Speaker 4: Ah okay, I was thinking Corona.
Speaker 1: I did not get that either, huh okay, So we're
Speaker 1: just dumb, dumb, run and dumb dumb too.
Speaker 3: Well, that's that would go along with what our talkbacks
Speaker 3: are saying today.
Speaker 2: Really just a little bit. Thank you for shielding me
Speaker 2: from that.
Speaker 3: Well, some of them are just not necessary, and some
Speaker 3: of them have been forward with law enforcement.
Speaker 4: So that's oh great.
Speaker 6: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 6: am six forty.
Speaker 2: Well, we've been reporting this to you.
Speaker 1: According to Pew Research, sixty five percent of Americans say
Speaker 1: they always or often feel exhausted when they think about politics.
Speaker 1: Relationships with friends and family have been strained in this
Speaker 1: election year, and News Nation political contributor Denise Gits has
Speaker 1: joined us today. She actually wrote a book that I
Speaker 1: can't wait to get my hands on politics for people
Speaker 1: who hate politics, How to engage without losing your friends
Speaker 1: or selling your soul.
Speaker 2: Denise, thank you for your time this morning.
Speaker 7: Thanks for having me on. What a fitting title, right,
Speaker 7: So this week in particular.
Speaker 3: Perfect give me your snapshot of where we stand a
Speaker 3: few days out from election day without using the words
Speaker 3: garbage or Puerto Rico.
Speaker 7: Well, gosh, that's so hard for everyone, it seems these days. Listen,
Speaker 7: you know, I think this napshot is that you know,
Speaker 7: I don't know who's going to win. I'm like the
Speaker 7: worst one with the crystal ball, and I've been in
Speaker 7: this game for twenty five years. But what I do
Speaker 7: know is that whoever wins, we're going to have to
Speaker 7: live with our neighbors that we may or may not
Speaker 7: agree with after election day, and we're going to have
Speaker 7: to decide what kind of a country we want to have.
Speaker 7: And that country can either be one that falls apart
Speaker 7: because of our internal division, or it can be one
Speaker 7: where we can stand in the truth that we know
Speaker 7: for ourselves and respectfully disagree with those who have some
Speaker 7: who have a different truth from ours. And I think
Speaker 7: that that's something that we have not made an art
Speaker 7: of or even an intention of, but it is going
Speaker 7: to determine what kind of country we have at the
Speaker 7: end of this election, regardless of who wins.
Speaker 1: You mentioned engaging in politics God's way, what does that entail?
Speaker 7: So you know, I'm a Christian and one of the
Speaker 7: things that God caused us to do is not only
Speaker 7: love Him, but love our neighbors and our enemies as
Speaker 7: we love ourselves. And so you know, I tend to
Speaker 7: love myself a lot. Unfortunately, I'm not quite as good
Speaker 7: as I wish that I were, and I think if
Speaker 7: God wants me a lot of other people, especially people
Speaker 7: I disagree with. Often when I find myself doing when
Speaker 7: I'm in a heated argument about politics, is that I
Speaker 7: tend to start judging the person instead of debating the idea.
Speaker 7: And when we go from the belief system that I'm
Speaker 7: right and you're wrong transfers to I'm good and you're bad,
Speaker 7: that's when things get off the rail and we become
Speaker 7: really self righteous, and we lose the humility that we
Speaker 7: need and that God calls us to as a Christian,
Speaker 7: God calls me to be humble. And I have to
Speaker 7: remind myself constantly that I don't know why that person
Speaker 7: came to the conclusion they came to, but I guarantee
Speaker 7: you they have a legitimate reason for it, and it's
Speaker 7: my job to humbly ask why, because I have to
Speaker 7: recognize that I have blind spots. You know, we all do.
Speaker 4: There was a comment that JD.
Speaker 3: Vance made, and it was actually on a News Nation
Speaker 3: town hall from last week, where he referred to politics
Speaker 3: as obviously it's an important part of our society, but
Speaker 3: it's not the thing that we should lose relationships over
Speaker 3: If you're losing friendships or you're alienating family members because
Speaker 3: of their politics, you're doing it wrong.
Speaker 7: We all. And I haven't say this again. I am
Speaker 7: somebody who wrote this book. I feel like God downloaded
Speaker 7: on me because I'm not smart enough to think of
Speaker 7: these things or even to live them out. I'm constantly
Speaker 7: preaching at myself, so trust me, I'm not pointing at
Speaker 7: anyone else. But i will say that we tend to
Speaker 7: lose sight of that reality, especially in this last week
Speaker 7: as the election, you know, is finalizing, and what we
Speaker 7: have to realize is the holidays are right around the corner.
Speaker 7: We're going to be sitting across the table from family
Speaker 7: members that we love that we probably disagree with, and
Speaker 7: somehow we're able to channel that grace and love to
Speaker 7: them because you know, they're blood most of the time.
Speaker 7: But that same grace and love and humility that we
Speaker 7: need to experience for ourselves in understanding that we're not
Speaker 7: the only idea out there and we're not always the
Speaker 7: most legitimate one, has to be something that we walk
Speaker 7: around consciously holding onto as the election pans out and
Speaker 7: we move into a season that's supposed to be marked
Speaker 7: by love, respect, and at the very least, civility towards
Speaker 7: one another.
Speaker 1: I often talk about and I think an important thing
Speaker 1: is listening, listening to each other, not just talking over
Speaker 1: each other because you're you know, set on on your
Speaker 1: point or what.
Speaker 2: You believe to be true.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But as we get closer to election day, I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: if people are losing relationships over this, or strained relationship
Speaker 1: with the friends and family, is it even worth having
Speaker 1: the conversation with somebody else about politics anymore?
Speaker 7: Yes, because I think that unless we and this is
Speaker 7: the difference between unity and conformity. So often we confuse
Speaker 7: conforming just giving in, you know, let's go along to
Speaker 7: get along, as though that we're somehow going to change
Speaker 7: the way we felt about people we disagreed with inside
Speaker 7: and this is as much of an inside dealism as
Speaker 7: an outside job. We have to be able to stand
Speaker 7: on the fullness of God's truth that we see like
Speaker 7: are the truth as we see it. In order to
Speaker 7: be fully known and to engage in real relationship, we
Speaker 7: can't be parading around as somebody else or putting our
Speaker 7: own beliefs to the side. So I encourage everyone don't
Speaker 7: give up your belief system, hold on to that truth,
Speaker 7: but do what the apostle Paul said, which is to
Speaker 7: speak the truth in love. How we say things is
Speaker 7: as important in our in our emotional state towards people,
Speaker 7: is as important as the truth that we stand for.
Speaker 7: So it's not easy. I struggle with it all the time,
Speaker 7: especially in this last week where I'm going to be debating,
Speaker 7: you know, folks on the other side of the aisle
Speaker 7: about who's better for our country. But what matters the
Speaker 7: most is our intention in our heart to love people
Speaker 7: and to honor them.
Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you about that, Denise, because I
Speaker 3: also saw an interview that Bill Maher did with Megan
Speaker 3: Kelly from last week's show, and he said he kind
Speaker 3: of led into it with One of the frustrations that
Speaker 3: he has as a political commentator is he believes he's intelligent,
Speaker 3: and he only brings people on the show that he
Speaker 3: believes are intelligent. How can two very intelligent people disagree
Speaker 3: so wildly on issues like that? When you find yourself
Speaker 3: in a position where you're when you're having a debate
Speaker 3: with somebody, at the end of it, do you find
Speaker 3: yourself eat? I mean, you've kind of alluded that it's
Speaker 3: not always easy, But do you find yourself able to
Speaker 3: reach your hand across and say, hey, we may disagree,
Speaker 3: but we're all in this together.
Speaker 7: It has to be an intention that I said where
Speaker 7: I say, I'm not going to walk away from this conversation,
Speaker 7: just frustrated that someone as smart as you could have
Speaker 7: such dumb ideas right, which is truly what I believe.
Speaker 7: I'm just being honest, but because I always think that
Speaker 7: I'm right obviously, but I'm not always right. And I
Speaker 7: think the awareness the intentionality of saying, look, this person
Speaker 7: is smart. I acknowledge that, and I'm not always right.
Speaker 7: I acknowledge that as well, as hard as that might
Speaker 7: be in the middle of an election season. So I'm
Speaker 7: going to actually go a step further than just walking
Speaker 7: away from this conversation leaving things unsaid, and I'm going
Speaker 7: to ask that person to drink or to coffee or
Speaker 7: to dinner and really get to know the person so
Speaker 7: that I can better be open to or understand why
Speaker 7: they've arrived where they arrived and every single time, and
Speaker 7: that I've done that sometimes against my own really will
Speaker 7: like my better self. It doesn't often come out in
Speaker 7: those situation. But when I give into my better self,
Speaker 7: I'm always rewarded with not only a better understanding of
Speaker 7: what the people on the other side of the aisle
Speaker 7: think for me, which helps me understand my position better
Speaker 7: or moderate it, but it actually helps me love that person,
Speaker 7: and that, to me is the real win.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, that's a really good point.
Speaker 1: After twenty sixteen and Donald Trump's president, and I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: how did this happen? And I actually read JD Vance's book,
Speaker 1: and it helped me understand what other people with different
Speaker 1: life experiences where they're at in their life that made
Speaker 1: them feel forgotten by the elite political parties and all
Speaker 1: of that. And you know, it goes back to the
Speaker 1: fact that we're all humans, you know, the other side.
Speaker 1: They're not monsters, they're not bad people. We all have
Speaker 1: some shared things, but just different paths that lead us
Speaker 1: to where we are and where we lie politically. I
Speaker 1: wanted to just quote your book because I always go
Speaker 1: back to this, and it's the people that I truly
Speaker 1: respect that built the country. The founding fathers that George
Speaker 1: Washington believed that political parties would divide and destroy the
Speaker 1: fledgling nation knew that unity was essential to survival. You
Speaker 1: know that James Madison wrote that a well constructed union
Speaker 1: should break and control the violence of faction. Alexander Hamilton
Speaker 1: calling political parties the most fatal disease of popular governments,
Speaker 1: and that John Adams's greatest fear was a division of
Speaker 1: the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its
Speaker 1: leader in concerting measures and opposition to each other. They
Speaker 1: all warned against exactly where we're at. Unfortunately, unfortunately their
Speaker 1: warnings didn't last long. Political parties quickly rose to power. Right,
Speaker 1: So it's like we've been in this this fight for
Speaker 1: a long time. It's not new, which is kind of comforting,
Speaker 1: but also it's just as dangerous as it always has been.
Speaker 7: It has been, But I think that it's less dangerous
Speaker 7: when we set our minds to recognizing that divisions are inevitable.
Speaker 7: Look the way that not in amongst ourselves, but the
Speaker 7: way we think about things. Everyone has different experiences, so
Speaker 7: we all are going to have different perspectives on the
Speaker 7: same issues. I mean, when you look at those things
Speaker 7: on Instagram where it's like a picture and it's like
Speaker 7: what do you see? Half the people see one thing
Speaker 7: it's like a witch and the other person's like, that's
Speaker 7: a cat. You know, like you never really know. Everyone
Speaker 7: just sees things so differently. It's how we were created.
Speaker 7: It's part of the beauty of our diversity, especially here
Speaker 7: in California. We get to have different perspectives. That makes
Speaker 7: it stronger, not weaker. The difference always lies in what
Speaker 7: we allow ourselves to believe about why people are different.
Speaker 7: And that goes back to what I was saying before,
Speaker 7: is that when we approach with humility, when we talk
Speaker 7: about like, yes, we're different, that's okay, help me to
Speaker 7: understand why and then really come with an open heart.
Speaker 7: That's the challenging part. It lies within us, whether or
Speaker 7: not our country is irrabically ruined from within and divided,
Speaker 7: or whether we hold each other's hands and say left,
Speaker 7: we're not going to agree on everything. We don't have
Speaker 7: to talk about everything all the time that we disagree about,
Speaker 7: but I guarantee you there's more that we agree about
Speaker 7: than we don't.
Speaker 2: Denise, thank you so much for your time today.
Speaker 7: Thanks for having me on guys.
Speaker 3: You bet News Nation political contributor Denise Gitcham, and again
Speaker 3: the Book of Politics for people who hate politics.
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Speaker 1: oldest spooky legends of It's most gruesome. Please tell me
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Speaker 2: I don't want to waste Justin's time with you.
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Speaker 7: I got it.
Speaker 3: Justin Worsham has joined us and we talked with We
Speaker 3: talk with Justin about issues of parenting, which is always fun.
Speaker 3: People in their forties with no kids give similar responses
Speaker 3: when they're asked, how does it feel no kids?
Speaker 2: Heaven?
Speaker 3: Look at she's so happy in her life. And what
Speaker 3: I also think is funny is that there are people
Speaker 3: who wish who would wish you to have kids.
Speaker 4: Two different reasons.
Speaker 3: I mean, but but but some people would be like, well,
Speaker 3: you you'd know more about a parent's perspective if you
Speaker 3: had kids, which is dumb, that's an obvious thing. Or
Speaker 3: anybody who somebody would say, I want you to have
Speaker 3: kids because you want to. I want you to experience
Speaker 3: the joy of what it could be, but also come
Speaker 3: with that comes with a lot of dirty diapers and
Speaker 3: things like that, which is not choice.
Speaker 8: People who want people like if I was genuinely I
Speaker 8: originally started doing this segment to validate all of Shannon's
Speaker 8: life choices.
Speaker 5: That was the original plan.
Speaker 8: When I just to make well, no, the ones that
Speaker 8: are kid related. I guess I'm not taking for any
Speaker 8: any other ven diagram you made up in your own dome.
Speaker 8: But uh, it's anybody who's trying to talk to somebody
Speaker 8: who does not have kids into having kids. I really
Speaker 8: believe this is just trying to get them to commiserate
Speaker 8: with whatever Els experiences.
Speaker 2: Always said that.
Speaker 1: He said, people always want us to have kids because
Speaker 1: they wanted us to be just as miserable as they are.
Speaker 8: Like click like Lanta right now with just the beaming smile,
Speaker 8: the ponytail kind of bouncing.
Speaker 5: With you know what I mean, that's all that's all happy,
Speaker 5: that's just.
Speaker 8: That's still after shocks of Estonian pancakes.
Speaker 5: That's all just living in her being right now.
Speaker 2: That's the joy in life that gets sucked out of you.
Speaker 8: Yes, when you have to care about something else more
Speaker 8: than yourself worried exactly.
Speaker 1: You know, there's so much and that's the thing that
Speaker 1: I really miss out on. I don't miss out on
Speaker 1: all the work and the childcare and the pregnancy and
Speaker 1: all of that, but I do think that it's it's
Speaker 1: very important for you to take yourself out of yourself,
Speaker 1: you know, and having a kid is the surefire way
Speaker 1: to do that.
Speaker 8: I'll take you last night, this as early as probably
Speaker 8: what a little over twelve hours ago. I was my son,
Speaker 8: who's learning to drive, was driving his home in my
Speaker 8: I'm not trying to.
Speaker 5: Brag my Tesla Monel three. It is the cheaper one,
Speaker 5: but I did. It's fully loaded, Okay, I'm there.
Speaker 8: I got my self lightly used, all right, lightly refurbished,
Speaker 8: I think is the word they should me. Anyway, he
Speaker 8: was driving home and because he's getting kind of confident,
Speaker 8: he took a turn like he's at Monaco. Yeah, and
Speaker 8: he hugged that little cone and instead of those little
Speaker 8: curb bumps like they have in formulae, they have a
Speaker 8: curb and he clipped it, flattened the tire, dented the
Speaker 8: rim and he felt horrible. And if I was a
Speaker 8: better person, I would have said, hey, man, it's okay.
Speaker 5: It was bound to happen. It was a mistake.
Speaker 4: But I cursed a lot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was like, get why don't you listen to me?
Speaker 1: What did you tell to slow down? As he was
Speaker 1: taking that It was a thing.
Speaker 8: It all happened so fast, even though he was only
Speaker 8: doing thirty five miles an hours, a thing where he
Speaker 8: was like, he was hugging the right side and in
Speaker 8: my mind, I'm like, that's a little close, and I'm like,
Speaker 8: you know, he's gonna straighten out.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be fine. Don't scare him.
Speaker 8: And then I knew it was too late, and he
Speaker 8: basically as the tire of the rear, the rear of
Speaker 8: the car hit it. That's when I also started making
Speaker 8: noise out of my face and uh, I said, without
Speaker 8: being things I could see on the air, I could
Speaker 8: tell you my tone of voices, what are you thinking?
Speaker 4: Why don't you lessen to me?
Speaker 2: Was there an F word in there?
Speaker 8: There was, there was a couple, there's a couple. I
Speaker 8: think I booked with the F words.
Speaker 5: And then there was a GD in there too, Uh
Speaker 5: good one. Yeah.
Speaker 8: And then he of course he's of my two children.
Speaker 8: They're both very sweet and loving boys, but he is
Speaker 8: the sweeter of the two, and he was crestfall.
Speaker 5: He's like, oh, I am so sorry. And then and
Speaker 5: then this is weirdly enough, I just thought he hit
Speaker 5: it hard. And then he goes, uh uh oh. He
Speaker 5: literally said uh uh oh.
Speaker 8: And I looked down and on the tesla it has
Speaker 8: like a little displayed you see the light YEP said
Speaker 8: low pressure warning them right, that's flat And I looked
Speaker 8: at it and that's what I knew. And thankfully, in
Speaker 8: that moment, I was collected. I was like, okay, and
Speaker 8: I and the right thing to do for him was
Speaker 8: I said, it's okay, man, I'm sorry I lost my cool.
Speaker 5: But like I said, you.
Speaker 8: Got to stop hugging the right side of the lane,
Speaker 8: like go to the left, hug those lines because if
Speaker 8: somebody opens a door, I keep telling him, or the
Speaker 8: bigger injustice is if he becomes one of these a
Speaker 8: holes that just sits in the center of the lane
Speaker 8: so no one can turn right when they're at a light,
Speaker 8: like they just occupy the space like they're so effing important, right,
Speaker 8: And uh so I just had to spend the night
Speaker 8: where I had to talk to him. And then because
Speaker 8: he felt so horrible about it, I took him up
Speaker 8: to Santa Clarita because he wanted cowboy boots not only
Speaker 8: to wear but also for his Halloween costume. And then
Speaker 8: it turned into a jacket and it's turned into jeans
Speaker 8: and now we're like four hundred dollars into it. So
Speaker 8: that kid cost me like fifteen hundred dollars in the
Speaker 8: span of about three hours.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 1: Wow, I've never seen someone manipulated by a flat tire before.
Speaker 8: Oh, it's happened. I get manipulated, I think way more
Speaker 8: often than I'm aware.
Speaker 2: It happened very sweet though, But I just.
Speaker 8: But imagine, like if that just happened to you, your
Speaker 8: day could just be over, like it's just done now.
Speaker 1: I would not feel bad about all the sea of
Speaker 1: profanity that left my face.
Speaker 5: Exactly.
Speaker 8: You could yell at your husband and it has very
Speaker 8: different ramifications or he could probably just bounces off of him.
Speaker 5: Maybe at this point, I don't know.
Speaker 4: But ditven hear it now from the it's just right noise.
Speaker 5: More so to me, it was just it was draining.
Speaker 8: I ain't gonna lie because I had to put on
Speaker 8: a happy face, but I was kind of bummed. I
Speaker 8: was kind of bummed about it. And I signed up
Speaker 8: for this. This is what I wanted life to be.
Speaker 8: That's sixteen years into parenting. I wanted it to be this.
Speaker 5: And then on.
Speaker 8: Friday, because we didn't have time beforehand, I'm taking my
Speaker 8: entire family to Horror Nights. That was another five hundred
Speaker 8: bucks or.
Speaker 5: Something like that.
Speaker 4: Slower horror nights.
Speaker 5: We're going to horror.
Speaker 2: They are a little young for horror Nights.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Oh no, when does that start? What age do you
Speaker 2: think you start?
Speaker 5: Fifteen is when we did it.
Speaker 2: You get called the Secret Garden.
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Speaker 1: We've got a surface street stolen vehicle pursuit through the
Speaker 1: streets of Inglewood.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: This guy actually at one point had gone northbound in
Speaker 3: the southbound lanes of the four five, But now is
Speaker 3: driving west of the sorry east of the four oh
Speaker 3: five there and is trying.
Speaker 4: To get away a little black Auti.
Speaker 3: It looks like our dark colored, audy small SUV. Shannon
Speaker 3: was the first to identify it, but.
Speaker 8: The confirm it was an Audi. Not to get competitive
Speaker 8: about this list.
Speaker 2: You got very competitive, I did.
Speaker 3: It's not confirmed as of Okay, I just want to
Speaker 3: you know, but I will.
Speaker 4: I do concur I believe it is. I think she's
Speaker 4: right to believe it's an Audi.
Speaker 2: You know, I almost bought a Nauti.
Speaker 5: And that's how you knew.
Speaker 4: I thought you were going.
Speaker 1: I was, And then I did the test drive and
Speaker 1: the car salesman said to me in the test drive,
Speaker 1: go ahead and open it up. And I kind of laughed,
Speaker 1: and he said, I know women usually feel uncomfortable when
Speaker 1: I say that, like and when I give them permission
Speaker 1: to do that.
Speaker 5: Oh, I've heard you, guess.
Speaker 2: And I was like, there with the sale you know
Speaker 2: what's yeah, you.
Speaker 8: Know what's fun about that is both times i've heard
Speaker 8: you tell that story I made, I was uncomfortable equal
Speaker 8: amounts like, yeah, it's like, what.
Speaker 2: When I give them permission? When I give you women permission,
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, sir, okay, all right, sir.
Speaker 9: You're wearing a dame shirt that's untouched and sweatpants from
Speaker 9: that's a good call.
Speaker 5: That nineties fashion going strong.
Speaker 3: Talk about talk about parenting, the types of parents that
Speaker 3: tend to raise anxious kids.
Speaker 8: Oh guess what, big surprise, it's over protective ones.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's over they did.
Speaker 8: What I thought was interesting is the way that they
Speaker 8: discovered this is that they they followed children's children's Yeah,
Speaker 8: children of twins, So if Gary, you and I were
Speaker 8: twin brothers, they would look at my kids and your
Speaker 8: kids and see if their anxiety levels were the same.
Speaker 8: And that was a way of trying to decide if
Speaker 8: it was genetic or like nature versus nurture. And what
Speaker 8: they found is that that it's a lot more nurture
Speaker 8: than it is nature. There's obviously still a nature element,
Speaker 8: there is a genetic element to it. But if you
Speaker 8: are prone to worrying, or there's a lot of worrying
Speaker 8: in your household, your kids pick up on that. If
Speaker 8: you try to protect your kids from negative experience or obstacles,
Speaker 8: then they don't know how to deal with those negative
Speaker 8: experiences or those obstacles and so they just naturally become
Speaker 8: more anxious.
Speaker 3: And I think we all have people in our lives,
Speaker 3: probably that we know or can identify, that are quite
Speaker 3: overprotective about stuff like that. And I'm once you start
Speaker 3: telling your kids you're anxious about something, or you introducing
Speaker 3: that sort of umbrella of definition when it comes to
Speaker 3: things like that, you're doing them a disservice because you're not,
Speaker 3: like you said, you're not allowed. You're not encouraging them
Speaker 3: to come up with those fixes for things that would
Speaker 3: otherwise be uncomfortable.
Speaker 8: And I don't like that I have this opinion, but
Speaker 8: it is my opinion. The amount of kids that I
Speaker 8: see in high school and middle school that are still
Speaker 8: wearing masks to this day is concerning to me, like genuinely, like.
Speaker 5: I'm not that I'm COVID masks.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they're still wearing masks a lot, and it's mostly girls.
Speaker 8: My kids have told me that it's because girls have
Speaker 8: felt like they feel insecure about how they.
Speaker 5: Look, so they feel more comfortable behind a mask.
Speaker 8: But I just like, they just they never come off,
Speaker 8: and and I just I worry about Like I'm not
Speaker 8: worry that's not fair.
Speaker 5: What I really mean is I just I feel bad.
Speaker 8: I'm like, I wish that you didn't have to spend
Speaker 8: your entire life concerned and worried about what's over your shoulder.
Speaker 4: I think worry is the right word, because you worry.
Speaker 3: About what they're going to go in, you know, in
Speaker 3: their lateeen early twenties.
Speaker 1: He's pulled over on the one oh five, gotten out
Speaker 1: of the car and jumped on the side of the freeway.
Speaker 1: Is that a homeless encampment or is that No?
Speaker 5: I think that's just like one of those sales that
Speaker 5: you put up in your backyard for shade.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 2: But there's like a cooler, Like, what's that.
Speaker 4: Holding him at gunpoint?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 5: I think he's holding up his phone to tell.
Speaker 4: I am in his arms does.
Speaker 5: Have a cooler?
Speaker 6: Cooler?
Speaker 2: What is going on?
Speaker 4: We miss something?
Speaker 2: I am very confused.
Speaker 8: Uh wow, how many times in your life and you've
Speaker 8: been walking down a like frontage sidewalk freeway adjacent with
Speaker 8: just a blue igloo and wheels, Like what.
Speaker 2: That's a nice cooler. That is a nice value cooler.
Speaker 8: That guy is like he's mobile and he's parched, and
Speaker 8: he doesn't want to have to stop at a convenience store.
Speaker 1: That is inconvenience to blend in with the homeless encampment.
Speaker 5: I don't know, my gut, says inflation. He's like, it's cheaper.
Speaker 3: My own officers now look like they're running close to Uh.
Speaker 3: There's a walkway that goes over the one oh five,
Speaker 3: and it looks like this person has tried to hide
Speaker 3: underneath the the pillars of it.
Speaker 4: Basically, So there's.
Speaker 5: A guy who walked out from the ground like he
Speaker 5: could be that guy for all anybody knows, Like if
Speaker 5: he just like turned.
Speaker 3: Around said, I don't think it was him, because they
Speaker 3: were they walked right past. So yeah, they have somebody
Speaker 3: a gun point underneath that little walk.
Speaker 1: People just are chilling on the on the side of
Speaker 1: the one oh Fivecome a lot.
Speaker 4: Don't worry.
Speaker 3: GAVENUWSOM is going to give eight hundred million dollars to
Speaker 3: solve homelessness.
Speaker 4: That's what'll solve it. That's what it all takes.
Speaker 1: I will have an even nicer, cooler maybe it's a
Speaker 1: YETI next week.
Speaker 4: A full yetti with wheels, nice wicky guy wheels.
Speaker 8: The right thing to do is to help your child
Speaker 8: have opportunities to take on challenges and task appropriate to
Speaker 8: their age and level of fear, says one of the
Speaker 8: co authors of the studies, So they have the opportunity
Speaker 8: to learn that they can cope with this.
Speaker 4: Situation after all. Listen.
Speaker 3: A great example of that is the aggressive but I
Speaker 3: fully endorse it style of swim training for kids, especially
Speaker 3: small three four five year old kids. Is the swim
Speaker 3: instructor will push them in the pool when they don't
Speaker 3: expect it, to teach them that they know the skills
Speaker 3: to get to the side of the pool that if
Speaker 3: it ever happens in real life, they have that sense
Speaker 3: of confidence that they can save themselves time. It's uncomfortable
Speaker 3: to watch swimming lessons were the worst lifesaver.
Speaker 5: I've never thought of this until you said that.
Speaker 8: But if you look at like when they always talk
Speaker 8: about the Seal team, the Seal training, like the hell
Speaker 8: weeks that they go through, it's really just it's such
Speaker 8: an intense, stressful situation so that everything else seems like
Speaker 8: child's played that they deal with.
Speaker 4: That war, Yeah, doesn't seem so bad, not so.
Speaker 5: Bad, and we're doing like good.
Speaker 8: Analogy justin that's what treats your kids like seals.
Speaker 3: Another there's a lot of cooler selling along that one
Speaker 3: oh five guys.
Speaker 8: I feel like we didn't get an invite to this party.
Speaker 8: It's like a barbecue going up.
Speaker 4: Check it out.
Speaker 2: They've gotten him or her.
Speaker 4: I don't know no that to him.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you didn't even know what would be.
Speaker 5: Too soon. You're going to file up to Cary. Really?
Speaker 7: Wow?
Speaker 3: God, friendship only lasts so long, Gary Shad and will
Speaker 3: continue right after this.
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