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and Matt Flynn.
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in to Off the Bench control the.
Speaker 1: Live from the Mercedes Benz of Baton Rouge Studio. Here's
Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 3: Yo, man, Actually should I let Flynn do this? I
think you go ahead? Yeah, step aside, Bud, go ahead, tripod.
The wolf pack is over. Apparently I'm going to be
the passenger princess today. Go ahead.
Speaker 5: I'm a little dizzy actually from headbanging right there.
Speaker 3: You got it.
Speaker 5: Welcome back in, Yeah, yesterday, welcome back into you.
Speaker 3: We'll say that. Okay, that's fair to go by. Nice pivot.
Nice well, I mean we can't get there yet. I
mean you're trying to get this thing started. We got
to see how everybody's doing, Sue Flynn, KT all here.
The gang is back together. I'm going to be here
the whole show today, Flynn. Well done. I listened to
a little bit in the car as much as my
radio signal could handle yesterday on the way down to.
Speaker 6: Meturie well done got about Donaldsonville before when uh Donalsonville.
Speaker 3: I got to the outlet, mall get the Donaldsonville and
for some reason the HD radio like you, it would
get there, but then.
Speaker 7: Like nine eight point one, HD two gets you pretty
far down, but it doesn't go to like the HD.
It doesn't go staticy it just cuts off.
Speaker 3: Some reason it was off, but I appreciate y'all holding
down the fort. I was at Saints camp yesterday and
we'll get plenty of training camp thoughts. LSU started as well.
I had a chance to catch up with Kellen Moore,
so we'll play that interview in our number three A
lot to get to Bobby Carpenter, the general Big ten.
Bob's going to join us. JD Piquel is going to
join us because like it is talking season, it's all
about yesterday, you know, it kind of ended, and so
everybody's kind of giving their predictions on who's going to
do what, and JD picked lshusing National Championship, So excited
to catch up with him.
Speaker 7: Does he have being the like LSU ties LSU background,
because I feel like every video CFM for.
Speaker 3: S Meyer. Yeah, So JD played football at Cornell and Baylor.
Speaker 5: Smart guy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, smart people really believe in the nuts
bus they do.
Speaker 3: They do. So we've got sound from Brian Kelly trying
to get some of this Spencer Rattler sound that I
also caught up with him. It was wild, Like I've
done training camp tours before and I think maybe one
other time I'm trying to think maybe it was like
I don't know, Titans or somebody, they had two quarterbacks
and I did it with Bruce Murray and Bruce had
been in the game a long time NFL radio since
like six and I was like, if you ever had
three quarterbacks, come and sit down with you, because like
you don't know who the guy's going to be. He's like,
I'm never He's like I had I had two. Maybe
one other time. He's like, I never had three. So,
like the dynamic of that alone was pretty pretty different
in the fact that like we had Spencer came and
sat down, Jake came and sat down, and Tyler Shutt
came and sat down. It's like, interesting, we don't really
have an idea of which one of you is going
to be the guy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm trying to think of when there would have
been another competition with three guys. I mean we had
it in Seattle in twenty twelve with Russell Wilson, Tabars Jackson,
and myself.
Speaker 3: There was it was actually got one reps.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so we would split off days like it was
that's what they're doing. It was I was I was
the ran with the ones one day, Tavarus was the next,
and Russell was the next, and.
Speaker 3: It just like rotated like that for a little while
until it was two.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then it was never not to until that
season started, right, But yeah, that was three and that
was pretty wild, uh, because it's the NFL. Like usually
there's an incumbent, there's a free agent, or there's a
young draft pick. Well, in that situation in Seattle, there
was all three, right, so, but there was nobody established,
so that that's pretty wild. But then the Saints is
so different because there's I mean, it's all just young guys.
So it's just I've I'm trying to think of any
other situation. I'm sure Cleveland's had it right now.
Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, maybe they got four. I guess they do.
Speaker 7: I guess if you went to Cleveland you would you'd
have four quarterbacks come and sit down to the table.
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably so. But Cleveland doesn't count because they have
like a famous jersey on how many quarterbacks they've had
since they came back as a franchise last twenty five years.
Speaker 5: And like, surprisingly enough, my name's not on there.
Speaker 3: That's very true.
Speaker 5: You would have thought I'd be the prime candidates at
least got one start.
Speaker 3: Of it, got at least once start in Cleveland.
Speaker 5: Maybe disappointing career.
Speaker 8: Then even crazier, Ryan Fitzpatrick ain't on it.
Speaker 3: Are you serious?
Speaker 9: Ryan Fitzpatrick's not on there. Never played for the Browns.
Speaker 5: He's played for like twenty though, right, not the Browns.
Speaker 7: I never played for the Browns and every other team.
And then another one, who's my draft class? Josh Johnson's
played for a lot of.
Speaker 3: He's still playing. Yeah, I know who did Commanders? Is
Josh with the Commanders right now? Josh Johnson University of
San Diego when Harball was the coach there is literally
like still playing Commanders. Yes, okay, I mean he's played
for everybody, including the San Diego Fleet. I don't even
remember what league they played in, but he played for
I think yeah it was Yeah, he's one.
Speaker 5: N was it?
Speaker 3: Who is the San Diego players at UFL? It might
have been like the AAFL. What was that league? The
Alliance of American Football.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and then well then he also played when it
was just the XFL.
Speaker 9: I think it was like the LA team. All right,
l a wild couch or something.
Speaker 3: Look keep doing, you keep finding away.
Speaker 7: So Fitzpatrick said he started for nine different teams, which
is a absolutely. I mean, being on nine teams would
be a lot of teams. Yeah, but are starting at
the quarterback position for nine different teams? Well done, fits magic,
Well done. I'm gonna see Josh. So Josh Johnson was
our Like. I remember seeing him at the combine and
some scout had come up to me from I think
the Bears or something, and they were talking and like
I'm sitting there trying to like look good and impressed scouts.
All this scout could talk about was Josh Johns And
I was like, yeah, dude, cool, it's great draft him, Like,
don't talk to me about it, don't ask me how
good he is. But then he threw at the combine
and he did not throw very good at the combine.
Speaker 3: I was like, that's the guy the scout was talking about, like,
there's no way he's raw at that time. For sure,
it was super well.
Speaker 7: But he had something like thirty something touchdowns and one
interception or something like that his his senior year.
Speaker 5: So and then he ran a four to four or
something at the combine.
Speaker 3: Was his college teammate Eric?
Speaker 5: Which one?
Speaker 3: Eric? Yeah? Which one? Well, there's a which one went
to San Diego.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, like, it's a good point. I should
have done that.
Speaker 3: It's on me how they did yesterday? Goo, Landry you
said Flynn crushed it. I know our listeners, I mean
social media loved it. I mean I saw Matt talking
about the Tripod over and over again to the Tripod guy.
A guy can't go down to Saints camp and get
a kill interview. Wow, dude, yeah, guy gets kick that
the wolf back when he does that.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think maybe you were holding him back.
Speaker 3: It feels like it. No, he did great, feels like it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, how are I mean we helped him out.
Speaker 3: I was like, whoa, look, he's going to do it all.
Speaker 2: Lie.
Speaker 10: I'm not gonna lie. I was worried about the libraries.
Speaker 5: I was like, maybe.
Speaker 10: Fifteen seconds, like he does the I think the longest
he's done a library it is twenty seconds. So I
was like, how is he going to.
Speaker 4: Do a minute?
Speaker 10: I was genuinely that was the thing that I was like,
how is he going to do this a minute? He
did it okay, and I'm so proud.
Speaker 3: Even told you. He's like, look if I go fifty
seconds and we got ten left, and I stopped talking
like there was a lot of prep.
Speaker 9: I said, look, you have mostly a minute most of them.
Speaker 3: I'm going to try to get a minute.
Speaker 7: But if I black out and there's fifteen seconds left,
you got to cut this thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 7: And I was going to start playing med music like
I think her finger was probably like over the cut,
but like she was ready.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I know.
Speaker 10: He didn't even bringing us in and out of the breaks.
He was teasing segments like he was like, I got
a little trivia question for y'all, next segment coming up
on Off the Bitch.
Speaker 3: I do appreciate those. I do appreciate that you had
the same clock management I half worse.
Speaker 5: I think we had. I think we had twelve second segment.
Speaker 8: Good lord, yeah, because we were talking D line, Yeah,
and he's going on and on about Kyle Williams, and
he goes, when we come back, we're talking more LSUT football.
We went to break. I was like, no, we're not
segment coming on.
Speaker 10: We came back and he's like, I don't think Eminem
counts as ah.
Speaker 3: I actually I did. I heard that part of it. Yeah,
I wanted. I was like, he absolutely counts, he counts.
Speaker 5: But the song, but the song was released under slim Shady.
Speaker 9: Was an album.
Speaker 3: I think maybe name. He's always been eminent with that,
Like his name is Marshall Mathers. He goes by Eminem. Yeah,
one name.
Speaker 5: I think he has famous songs. Says I'm slim Shady.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like you're dragon sometimes, Jake.
Speaker 9: We found out Steve related to this.
Speaker 5: I heard that.
Speaker 3: I did hear that.
Speaker 5: It's a big deal.
Speaker 3: We broke before I lost, y'all. Armenian, Yeah, okay.
Speaker 7: Yeah, a lot of people question it. They don't know
for sure, but we dispelled all rumors. It's one hundred
percent fact.
Speaker 8: The more than three hours of board from each other
and sarkas seven siblings.
Speaker 9: Telling me they're not related.
Speaker 5: They're related.
Speaker 10: I think I looked it up and they weren't though, no, No,
they're related.
Speaker 9: I think Scott actually to multiple sources.
Speaker 7: But when we came back to break that time, I
was like, I don't know if slim, I don't know
if he counts because of some shitty then wonder it
starts counting down to.
Speaker 5: The second.
Speaker 3: Hey, Scott says FB one can take a vacation before
college football stars. I think that's true.
Speaker 10: Now that is true.
Speaker 3: I got sixteen days. Let's this, y'all got it?
Speaker 5: No, we just we caught lighting in a bottle one time?
Speaker 3: All right, what's.
Speaker 10: You're a one hit wonder.
Speaker 3: You're Theers? You might get that reference.
Speaker 9: Yeah, something's got to give.
Speaker 3: No, No, you're in the right track. You're thinking you
got mail. No nos, one hit I know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 9: I'm sorry, No, yeah, no, are you sure?
Speaker 3: I'm positive it was the Wonders. They caught him because
they in that thing you do. That thing you do
is the name of the movie. Yeah. The trifile came
together and got there.
Speaker 5: Because I was like, no, it's.
Speaker 10: Something's got to give us a great.
Speaker 3: You said something about you've got mal great movie. All right,
so when we come back, we'll get it started. I
was at Saint training camp, and it was so cold
out there. Let me tell you, it was so cold,
not hot at all. But there's some good things, there's
some questionable things, and there's some things that are yet
to be decided. That's exactly what it was yesterday at
Saints training camp. We'll break it down when we come
back here on OTV.
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come back with now no no No. Today's R and
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Speaker 10: R and B Thursday sent me nine songs which I
love today. So this is the Roger Villa Reale playlist.
Speaker 3: Let's go. You know this one right, yeah? Okay. I
used to hear this one on one of two seven.
The Blaze blade you love to give others? Is the
Blaze still a radius?
Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: This was definitely the Big Dog Islo Texas. I don't remember.
Speaker 10: It was like ninety three point three, maybe like Kiss
FM or something that we had.
Speaker 9: We had a kiss FIM here for a little while.
I don't remember which station it was.
Speaker 3: I don't know. This is a good one, though, Taylor.
Speaker 7: When we shout out other radio stations, it's old radio
stations from other cities.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that nobody really knows or remember. It's just fun
and the names like not even the same anymore. I
think the big dogs like K ninety four five now,
I don't know why they went away from the big
dog a dog.
Speaker 5: When the blaze started, it was like it was kind
of like a I don't know what the right way.
Speaker 3: It's not sketchy. It was like a mom Polly.
Speaker 7: They got some airwaves and they had like nine songs
on repeat, and it just played nine songs on repeat
for a while, and then people were listening to it.
So you got a little bit more money, got some
sponsorship dollars, and I think he moved to twelve, okay,
then fifteen then became a real radio station.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, microphones and everything all right. So I was
out at Saints Camp yesterday and some initial thoughts the
thirty second ranking when it comes to the roster, that
was kind of like on my mind, and so I'm like,
all right, I want to see, like, am I going
to be how amazing them on? It?
Speaker 10: Be?
Speaker 3: So? And the thing I kept coming back to is
when they roll the first twenty two out there, it's
definitely not thirty second like they got some Jimmy's and
Joe's in that first twenty two like they really do
at the offensive line now moving pinning to guard looks impressive.
You had the first receiver group out there. They they
continue to make plays like a lave. Spencer Ratler hit
him on a deep go for like a sixty yard touchdown.
They come back Rashichi he runs a deep out throat
right in there, toe taps on the sideline. Rashichi caught
a corner route toe tap, took a hit, held onto
the football and Brandon Cooks made him play. You see it,
ak made seven or like the fact that he is
as smooth and as fresh as he looks at thirty
years old at running back is incredible. And I know
like he's done a nice job of taking care of
his body. He's had some situations where he's had like
he's the thunder and lightning kind of situations with Ingram
and others, but he doesn't look like a thirty year
old running back. He got so smooth. He's very smooth,
and so like all of that is great, even on
the defensive side, like the first eleven out there, like
Brian Berze was very active, Cam was very active. It's like, okay,
I can see this team being Okay, the South's not great,
they can be competitive. Where I get worried is when
they blow the whistle and here comes another unit. And
probably more on the defense as a whole, but certainly
like this skill position, and really more the receivers, because
actually the Saints running back room, like they kept rolling
guys in there, and guys kept making plays, Like I
was watching one on one pass protection and Ak had
a great rep. Cam Akers had a great rep. Clyde
stoned the rookie linebacker from Oklahoma Statesman. Like they all
looked great in pass protection and one on one routes
on backers. Running backs kept winning over and over again.
So like that's okay, you're so thin at receiver though,
and again you got chrys Olave with concussion history. You've
got Rashichi Hi that's had you know, some hamstrings and
different things going in his career. Brandon Cooks has missed
time certainly in his career. So it's going to be
one of those deals where and it hasn't happened in
a long time. But if they stay healthy, all right, Well.
Speaker 5: The fact of the matter is they're not going to
stay healthy. I know, I mean nobody.
Speaker 3: It's a problem.
Speaker 7: No, there's not one position group in the NFL that's
going to stay completely healthy for seventeen games. You're going
to have to rely on somebody. You just hope that
there's not multiple people at the same time, and especially
for multiple weeks. Like you can patch weeks together with
different game plans, with utilizing tight ends, maybe you utilize
running backs a little bit more.
Speaker 5: You can patchwork.
Speaker 7: And that is the job of an offensive coordinator and
a defensive coordinator in the NFL, and you see it
all the time. That's what kind of separates a lot
of times these playoff bubble teams from making it to
the playoffs and not. It's like which coaches got more
out of.
Speaker 3: Their roster, yeah, but and also which ones do get
lucky to stay as healthy as you possibly can too.
Speaker 5: If you get lucky to say this play to win
a Usually the top teams.
Speaker 3: To win a championship, like you like, even the best
teams have to have that injury luck for sure.
Speaker 7: And and those are the top teams that have both
the coaching, the luck and everything. I'm talking about teams
that deal with injuries but still find their way to
scrap into the playoffs right to find find that temp.
Speaker 3: And the roster was set up to do so as well. Yeah,
you drafted, well, you got some young guys waiting in
the wings. You maybe signed like a free agent tight
end that was under the radar that can come in
for six games and give you some starter. I just
don't have that.
Speaker 7: You just can't have what happened last year when you
have four receivers out, you have a lineman, now, you
have running backs out.
Speaker 5: But I also question.
Speaker 7: Last year, what was inspiring enough about the team to
fight to get back on the field. Yeah, I know
there's some things you can't come back from, of course,
but like if you're a vet, a little nicked up,
you're week fifteen, You're week fifteen. Everybody's out, and nobody's
like we just which I'm not built that way, but no, no,
but go out. There's business decisions made. Yeah, on every
single team, every single week.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean you say that that the starting
twenty two.
Speaker 7: Is gonna be competitive. They're gonna be competitive, Yeah for sure. Yeah,
and they should. And you said the offense, the offensive
line better look good. Yeah got four, Yeah they better
look good.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, it's very fair. And but Penning's a guard,
he's not a tackle. He can't play in space, he
can't live in space. In fact, his demeanor doesn't scream
tackle like he doesn't ever need to be on an island.
He's too aggressive, you know what I mean. Like he
tries to attack too much at tackle, he tries to
jump a pass, move too and then you get into trouble.
Then he ducks his head. Then the guy gets past tackle.
Speaker 7: Is tackles a counter punch position. Yeah, it's a patient position.
You let the guy move, you react to it, and
you just you take what he does and you use
it against him. It's it's the ultimate, Like, uh, use
their momentum completely against them, wash them out of the play,
or anchor them, like if they try to they try
to bull rush you, anchor them, they try to they
try to swim you inside, you wash them inside. They
try to swim you outside. You push them out. You
push them as deep as you can behind the quarterback.
So it's tackles the counter guard and center. It's a
first strike. It's like cover k It's exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now, it's what it is. And you can be
aggressive and you have protection on both sides. So that's
why you can be more aggressive. You're never on that
island truly by yourself, like very rarely will you have
much space. And so those are the things that I
think you know are going to improve the offensive line.
But again, they like they gotta stay healthy. The depth
on the team, like some of these some of the
backups to just not experience, or they're guys that were
drafted high other places that they're seeing if they can
get the most out of them. And it's just that
there's nothing in there, like the fumes are almost gone,
and so that's going to be important for them. And
like Flynn said, and we all kind of know, like
it's almost impossible to stay healthy in an NFL season
for your team, but for the Saints to have any
life to do what you know we want them to do,
which is just make some noise in the South. They
have to stay as healthy as any team I think
in the NFL. And yesterday and I mentioned, like, you know,
they were kind of rotating a little bit because I
talked about Spencer rally like he had a great got
the ball, had some pressure off the edge, stepped up,
stepped out, hit a lobve on a sixty yard in
stride pass and so like. He definitely had some good moments.
But yesterday was Jake Hayner's day to be the starting court.
Speaker 7: Before we get to the quarterbacks, I did want to
ask about from the receiver standpoint, h Rashidzhahid, how did
he look as as a route runner, pure route runner?
So I know he's got the over the top speed,
he's got that home run ability. I saw some clips
yesterday where there's an incomplete Spencer threw one down the
sideline on like it was either a fade or a
go route. It was kind of like an intermediate intermediate
go route, and it was incomplete because he had done
a no. I'll tell you it was a slugg o.
So was a slam go and he did a really
poor job of se No, he sold the slant. Okay
kool Aid made actually a really good play on it.
Like I was pretty impressed, A right watch out cool
But like what rashid what he could have done. He
should have closed the distance between them so he could
stack him on top right like once he and he didn't.
Speaker 5: He kept the distance between him.
Speaker 7: And kul A like people think when you run a
go route or a lot of times running routes, like
you want to separate yourself, not necessarily when you catch
a when you catch a dB in transition, you actually
want to get closer to him so you can drive
him inside and then step like you can you create
a opportunity for the ball.
Speaker 3: I know what you're talking about now.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and he batted it down and I thought that
was a bad That was a really good coaching probably
wrapped for Shaheed to learn from that one.
Speaker 3: And you could tell that they're actually coaching him up
on that because I did see. I saw a really
good deep out where because he is so fast, if
he's pressing it vertical, you're scared to death.
Speaker 6: Is the one where shucked to it? No, I think
Spencer shuck through the out route and it wasn't very
good thrown.
Speaker 3: Okay, No, so this wasn't that spencer throw this one
because it was right on the sideline. It was a
toe tap, but he did a really nice job. I forget.
I think it was I think it was Taylor that
he was working against, and he pressed him. I mean
it looked like he was about to run a go
and then he put his foot in the ground and
went just right to the sideline. He didn't drift, you know,
he stayed on that plane, caught it. And that's what
you could when you have true game changing track speed,
Like those are the type of routes you have to
be able to run for it to matter.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the big Like one of the my key
things for the off Fence is, of course the ability
to get Shaheed involved.
Speaker 3: Because of his deep threat.
Speaker 7: But if he can improve and become a really good
route runner, that's a dangerous man. Yeah, And so like
I'm as ugly as watching him run around at number
twenty two.
Speaker 6: Like if you can run around twenty two a receiver, okay,
fair enough. So no, I'm not hating on twenty two
twenty two free Sweeten. I completely forgot that his jersey
number was twenty two, and I was watching the clips.
I was like who's this running back?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wore eighty something went he first got there,
but he wore twenty two in college and he switched back.
Speaker 5: But kind of I didn't even know the receivers could
wear it.
Speaker 3: Well now, like it basically doesn't matter really in the NFL. Yeah,
you can wear one through forty nine and eighty three,
eighty nine a receiver.
Speaker 5: Just the receiver position, no any position. A quarterback wore forty.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you want to now, yeah, that's disgusting. Gross. No,
they got to go back to the old rolls. I
do want to get your thoughts real quick. Let's just
go ahead and do it. Yeah, whatever, yes, because I
don't want to, like I do want to get to
some LSU next. So Jake Caner was a starter yesterday. Now,
if it's a true three man competition, that's fine. I'm
good with that. Jake had some nice throws yesterday. Cool.
They so they leave Wednesday to go to the West Coast.
They got to go from three to two, and I
think I think that's why you saw Jake get the
one reps yesterday because almost like a final verdict, like,
all right, are you going to be in this competition?
Before we pack up and go finish training camp on
the West coast, or is it going to be two
when we get there, because you don't have a lot
of time and you know this, like you don't have
a lot of time. And if you're at three quarterbacks
and they're each getting rep still, we're what almost ten
days in a training camp. I don't want to say
it was a wasted day because if they believe Jake's
in the competition, cool, If he's not, it was a
wasted day, like they have to at some point, whoever
it is, I'm not even calling for. It's got to
go from three to two and then ten days from there,
you got to go from two to one, like at
least like from a non quarterback. I'm in the huddle
with you, like, and it will happen organically. The team's
going to tell you before the coach tells you who
the starter is. But if I got three different voices,
and I was talking with with Kahmara about this, like
to the side yesterday because like he's he's the most
veteran guy on that offense, and he's like, yeah, I mean,
you know, I don't I don't try to do too much.
But I'm in if I'm in the huddle, Like, I know,
all three of those guys are different. I know they
got different cadences. I know that they call protections maybe
a little bit different, like with the way that they
say it out there. He's like, Tyler's a rookie, He's
gonna probably lean on me, uh you know for a
free release flat a little bit more so, like even
the veteran players, like it is an adjustment. Yes, what practice?
Speaker 4: Was that?
Speaker 3: What number practice? I think you're getting a I mean
was it three? No? No, no way more than that?
Is that the first time that he has been second second?
Speaker 7: He QB one all right, So I mean you could
have that means they're going one two three one two
three yep. So like that is telling you exactly he
is absolutely in the competition. Yeah, Kelamore is telling you
it's a legit and it's not just lip service, because
if it wasn't, it would be an absolute waste of
a day, an absolute waste of two quarterbacks precious reps.
Speaker 5: And let me tell you, each rep that you get
with ones is precious.
Speaker 7: Like there is no teacher like getting in there in
the fire of a training camp practice and running it.
Speaker 3: Not only just like you kind of you kind of
alluded to it.
Speaker 7: They're not only for the quarterback himself, but for the
other like people like ak learning, cadence, learning their tendencies
what they do. So they are telling you with their
reps that it is a legit because if it wasn't,
a new head coach trying to pick a quarterback, a
young quarterback is not going to waste rep on somebody
that does not have a legit opportunity to be your
day one starters. It's just I mean that if it is,
it's stupidity. And I'm saying if it's if it's not
a legit, then it's just stupidity of a wasting two days.
Speaker 3: With the ones. Yeah, and like real quick, what we're
talking about here every quarterback and you're like, what do
I mean it's the same protection is like it's supposed
to be the same cadence, Like I get all that,
but it is going to be different, Like everybody's going
to say different things.
Speaker 7: And it's well and in training camp is one on once,
it's one versus once, so like you're going you want
to go against the best people that that's why you
that's how you get better fast is going against the best.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and now, though this might not be the situation
because you've got all young quarterbacks, but like sometimes, like
when I was in San Diego, if they were bringing
you know, four off my side, like Phil will be like, hey,
I need you to pick that up, like I need
you to I need you to try to take two
if you can't, or like something, give me like an
extra like before you snapped, like, hey, give me an
extra second, which meant like, try to get big and
try to see if you can take two because he's
gonna throw hot. But he will like, hey, give me
a little extra time.
Speaker 5: Here.
Speaker 3: There'd be sometimes, and when I was in Denver, that
they'd be bringing four off my side and Peyton mcg
he'd say, you know, hey, Waco, Waco, Waco, free, free, free,
I have past protection responsibilities. But the quarterback will be
telling me, hey, if one comes, I want you to
run an angle. If two come, I want you to
run a flat like he would kind of change it
on the go because and so everybody handles it. Everybody
says something a little bit different, and I can't tell
any times I come back to the sideline if you're
catching a passing Denver and run back, So what are
you doing? I was like, Payton goes, okay, yeah, got it.
I got it. Say less because like everybody's going to
treat that a little bit different. Like so quarterbacks have
a little bit of freedom in the NFL to do
things like that. And like when I was listening to
Jay can or yesterday, like cerebral, like he was probably
the most of the group, honestly, like it just as
far as like how his mind worked, how he talked
about protections, how he talked about blitz is how he
talked about getting the running back, like in the right spot,
you gotta have something over the other guy that's keeping
them in the conversation, some of the things that he saw,
like he was talking fast about it, like he was understanding.
He knew kind of what they wanted to get done.
And so that's why, like everybody's going to be different
back there, even if it's the same offense, it's supposed
to be the same process, like human nature takes over.
And like if I was back there with you, you
would handle that. Like we always talk about the Auburn game,
how you kind of you moved me and sean into
a position that wasn't in a playbook to pick up
a blitz because you knew that we had to do
that to pick up the blitz. Like a young quarterback
like Apparrelel was in there no offense to him. He
would not have done that right, and so like, yes,
it's the same system, it's the same protection, but you're
going to have things play out differently, And that's why
it's important to know who your guy is and not
have three voices deep in a training camp.
Speaker 7: You know, I hate like dual quarterback systems. I'm gonna
get too fired up if we keep talking about this, all.
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Speaker 3: So LSU, as you well know, opened up camp yesterday
and the first day of training camp is never going
to be anything that you're going to get too up
too down about. I think everybody just gets really excited
the fact that everybody is back. But I will say
that for LSU, one of the more intriguing things was
going to be for me, what does it look like
left to right on the offensive line, because we don't
really know, like we don't have an idea and it's
not because you don't have candidates to do so. I
think you have some legit ones. You have seven eight
candidates that could be starters on the offensive line. But
you know what is right now the coaches between no
matter we're talking Brian Kelly, Joe Sloan, Brad Davis, Like,
what are the coach's mindsets right now and who they
think if they had a game today, who the starters
would be and from left to right and when Adams, Chester, Moore,
Thompson and Davis. That's Look, that's a group that we
weren't quite sure like being started multiple games last year.
He came in when there was an injury. Everybody thought, well, okay,
well surely he started last year. He's back again, like
he's gonna roll out there with the first team, but
does not play out that way. He actually goes with
the second team. Tyte, I know you're locked into this,
so I'll throw it to you first. Any surprise that
Paul Mubinga was not out there with the first team,
that it was Adams, Chester, Moore, Thompson, and Davis, No,
because that's kind of.
Speaker 8: What everybody said it was going to be here in
the spring, Like if you remember, Chester still ran with
the ones at center it's spring, and like one of
the first things Kelly said at its press conference basically
laid out the Braila Moore is your starting center.
Speaker 9: Yeah, because he said, hey, we have more at center.
Speaker 8: Chester and Mebinga are still battling for that starting spot,
and then Echoles and Thompson are battling for that second
spot at the other guard position.
Speaker 9: Not a surprise to me.
Speaker 8: It kind of seemed like because like how DJ Chester
was a really good locker last year. I just didn't
think he was a very good center last year.
Speaker 3: Like pre snap penalties, right the snap infraction?
Speaker 9: How many of those did you have?
Speaker 3: But eight? Yeah?
Speaker 9: And then after the snap he was good. No, I
don't think that.
Speaker 3: Every time he did one, I'd be on the broadcast
trying to keep my cool breaking pencils. Just break pencils
under the desk pencils, uh, each game seventeen.
Speaker 10: Like a standard number nine pencil or is it just
like a mechanical kind of number number two?
Speaker 2: Number two?
Speaker 3: I don't know where nine came from.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hate to like steer this convo
away from the topic, but when was there ever a
different number pencil.
Speaker 3: There's number one pencil there, number one? Your point, I
think I think it's a thicker pencil if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 5: But why But is the lead different?
Speaker 7: Because when you have to fill out scan troll like,
I know, the size might be different when you had
to fill out scantron's back in the day.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I just figure like the lead was different.
Speaker 10: We didn't do a mechanical pencil because it couldn't read it.
Speaker 8: They always said that, and maybe that's why my grades
weren't where they should have been. I always used the
mechanical pencil and the scantrons.
Speaker 5: It worked like like, looking back on it, why would
the chemical makeup of the it wasn't lead, I guess
graphi or whatever it was.
Speaker 7: Why would that be any different? Why would the scantron
have an issue with a number three pencil? But is
there a number three pencil?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 9: But to your point, Jake, no, I don't think it
was surprising.
Speaker 3: Trede as Green got to start at tight end. And
again this is all thanks to our guy Hunt Palmer
Louisiansports dot Neat. Check out those daily practice reports running
back Cayden Durham. Of course, ness Meyer at quarterback, and
so second team offense. The receivers, Barrion Brown, Kyle Parker.
You had Destin Hill, Bower Sharp the tight end there.
Caleb Jackson was the running back with that group, and
Michael Van Buren was the quarterback. So no real surprises there.
I know Nick Anderson, Hunt points out, wasn't in that group.
He was at practice with a sleeve on his leg,
participated in individual drills one old ones and look full speed.
He said. But I guess they're easing him back. In
Oklahoma last year that was you know, Nick missed time
because of injury as well.
Speaker 9: Well, not only that.
Speaker 8: Kelly actually updated this said that the reason he was
out Anderson has to do a certain amount of technically
walk throughs. You got a concussion in that car wreck
that he was in about a month ago, so they're
working back. Kelly said, he should be good to go
like next week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't get in a car wreck and try to
play against Arkansas on the road a couple of days later.
It's not great. You don't really remember how the game went.
That's why did you have a little brain bruise.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a different time, different times at different times,
protocols turns out if your if your head knocks the
windshield out, you probably you probably should do it.
Speaker 3: Nick's doing and what meatheads do? True?
Speaker 10: You do?
Speaker 7: You like kind of like a varsity blues like now
you got to ask him true false? Like oh Otherboudy,
he's holding up some fingers true or false?
Speaker 3: True? Right, smelling salts, Oh yeah, yeah for sure, Uh there, yeah,
you'll be fine. On the defense. At defensive end, it
was Jack Peiemurn, Gabe Relaford at defensive tackle, my bro
and Dominic McKinley linebacker, and Wes Weeks star position, Harld Perkins,
which we've talked a lot about. You had Delane and
Stamps at corner. You had Cooley and Gilbert at safety. Now,
as we know, there's a lot of guys on that defense,
Like Devon Keys is going to have a role on
that defense. I fully expect him in West Weeks to
have a full rotation the defensive line. You know how
that goes to also be rotating corner. You had Woodland
and Pickett as your second team at corners, Tebiano and
Halsee where your second team safety's there. Safety is going
to be a position we continue to look at throughout
training camp. Linebacker. I think you got a really good group. Star.
You had Singleton there backing up Harold Perkins, which the
star position in Blake's defense is, you know, it's it's
more of linebacker than it is dB. So Harold Perkins
being out there, good to see him back out. Vine
Keys can also play star. I never really.
Speaker 7: I never played a team where we called anybody a star,
so I don't even really know what the star does.
Speaker 3: Think. I think Nicol Sam. I think Nicol Sam more
than Nickel. Nickel Sam like a true you know, like
the twiner linebacker you played against.
Speaker 5: You know in the NFL that wasn't that many.
Speaker 3: You didn't play against a bunch of those guys Like
I feel like the Chiefs.
Speaker 5: There's nobody else good.
Speaker 3: I like that. I feel like the Chiefs when we
played like they always had.
Speaker 7: The twiners were the guys that could play like Sam
or defensive end that was those were the twiners, like
the Clay Matthews type that would have his hand in
the dirt, but.
Speaker 3: Then he would also roam around.
Speaker 7: See, it wouldn't anybody that was like good enough linebacker
to stick his nose in there and stop a run
and then also defend a pass.
Speaker 3: Those oy, we have a ton of those. I feel
like the Raiders and the Chiefs. I'm trying to think
of the Bronco like the Broncos kind of used like
later in his career. That's kind of how they use
Brian Dawkins whenever we play against them, or we just never.
Speaker 5: I've never used the term star I hear. I hear
people talk about it all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's not stars in Green Bay, Wisconsin. And on
that note, we'll take a break more O TV when
we come back one O four five ESPN. Ben Rouge
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Speaker 3: Come on, yes, all right, hold on, I mean, your
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all this sexy music for he has three kids, so.
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Speaker 7: You are.
Speaker 5: So I got some some pencil answers for us. Oh,
the number two.
Speaker 7: The number denotes the hardness level of the graphite of
the lead, and the brightness the darkness level. So number
one a little bit softer, is darker, Number two like
a medium softness, all right, And three four is a harder,
and it gets harder as you get higher, and so
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