Speaker 1: Well, let's continue ow Bill Cunningham, the Great America. And
Speaker 1: this Tuesday afternoon, the tri State getting ready for Pete
Speaker 1: Rose celebration tomorrow night. The game has sold out forty
Speaker 1: thousand strong. There made me some SRO tickets available, but
Speaker 1: I put on my ex account a photo or two
Speaker 1: of me and Pete back in the glory days for
Speaker 1: the corpse all stars and rest in Pete, Rest in peace.
Speaker 1: Pete Rose is all I can say about that. And
Speaker 1: I think he's in the arms of God Almighty. I
Speaker 1: pray he is. And he made many more positive contributions
Speaker 1: to our great country, in our great city the negative ones,
Speaker 1: and he belongs at least in the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: maybe more, but until then you may recall. April the
Speaker 1: twenty third, there was effort by city council to continue
Speaker 1: the plan development to come fundamentally change Hyde Park Square
Speaker 1: and it's something the residents don't want. And the vote
Speaker 1: was seven to two. There were two council members, Jan
Speaker 1: Michelle Kearney and Scottie Johnson who said no, it's too big,
Speaker 1: but the other seven fell in line with what the
Speaker 1: mayor wanted and they voted yes to allow these developments.
Speaker 1: To go forward north of one hundred million dollars, and
Speaker 1: at that time I had on John Zinzer part of
Speaker 1: the group saved the Hyde Park Square a little bit,
Speaker 1: a little bit unhappy with the vote, shall we say?
Speaker 1: The council sessions went on for hours and hours and
Speaker 1: they kind of ignored what the people wanted. And of
Speaker 1: course I would say this and John Zinzer, welcome to
Speaker 1: the Bill Cunningham Show. But I want to relate to
Speaker 1: you a little story that happened a week or two
Speaker 1: later about the vote and what it is, John, is
Speaker 1: that I was told by a knowledgeable political type and
Speaker 1: city council that, well, look what happened when after have
Speaker 1: peerival ran in the primary to stay as the mayor,
Speaker 1: he got eighty two percent of the vote, and so
Speaker 1: he said, I guess Hyde Park Square is not that
Speaker 1: too important. So first of all, respond to that, and
Speaker 1: then we'll go back in time a little bit. But
Speaker 1: is there a sense the citizens are outraged but it
Speaker 1: has no impact politically because this political guide told me, look,
Speaker 1: aftav just got eighty two percent of the vote. How
Speaker 1: do you respond to that before we talk about what
Speaker 1: you're doing? Now?
Speaker 2: Thanks, but I'm glad to be here with you again,
Speaker 2: and I'm happy to go straight to that. We chose
Speaker 2: not to try to make an expression via the primary.
Speaker 2: We decided we were not going to try to make
Speaker 2: a political noise in the primary, especially in the mayoral race.
Speaker 3: This isn't just a.
Speaker 2: Mayoral problem, although I don't happen to agree with how
Speaker 2: he's handled this. This is both a city council problem,
Speaker 2: and this is actually a systems problem as well. Our
Speaker 2: planning process, our development process. All of these need attention.
Speaker 2: But on top of all of that, what you and
Speaker 2: I have talked about most and what I'm really glad
Speaker 2: to be back here to talk about again today.
Speaker 3: Is the role of citizen voice.
Speaker 2: I'm sitting where I am, I'm looking at City Hall,
Speaker 2: and I can tell you very simply, City Hall has
Speaker 2: stopped listening to the voice of citizens and especially neighborhood
Speaker 2: council and community councils. A lot of people, a lot
Speaker 2: of council members gave us some time and did some listening,
Speaker 2: but they absolutely didn't do any hearing. And that's what
Speaker 2: this PD issue has really become about. It is about
Speaker 2: do citizens do neighborhood councils do community councils get a
Speaker 2: say in what happens in their neighborhoods around development. Hyde
Speaker 2: Park Squares stood up and said, we want voice in this.
Speaker 2: You didn't hear us in the whole process. And it
Speaker 2: wasn't just on the twenty third of April, goes all
Speaker 2: the way back to January. More than seven hundred emails
Speaker 2: were sent to Planning Committee staff. More than sixty people
Speaker 2: spoke against it, about four spoke to it.
Speaker 3: Then again in March it.
Speaker 2: Happens in the Planning Commission meeting itself, then again the
Speaker 2: day before the twenty third, on the twenty second, in
Speaker 2: the Equitable Growth and Housing Commission Committee meeting. Then in
Speaker 2: front of City Council, the voice was overwhelming, the hearing
Speaker 2: was underwhelming. We're putting it on the ballot now to
Speaker 2: show that citizen's voice and citizen issue still matters, and
Speaker 2: we need the help of people who listen to you,
Speaker 2: Bill to make sure we get that ballot measure on
Speaker 2: the ballot.
Speaker 1: John Zenzer. Of course, their attitude is know your role, John,
Speaker 1: and shut your mouth. But on this issue, just explain
Speaker 1: in general what the general plan is. I've been to
Speaker 1: Hyde Park Square. I was there a few days ago,
Speaker 1: went to Zip's, got a cheeseburger, went at Graters and
Speaker 1: I got me a ice cream, sat on a bench
Speaker 1: with the family. I loved it.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 1: Just explain in general, what did the city approve.
Speaker 2: What the city approved, effectively, was a container ship dropped
Speaker 2: in on the south side of Hyde Park Square. They
Speaker 2: are talking about something about four hundred feet long upwards
Speaker 2: of potentially eighty five even ninety three feet high at
Speaker 2: certain dimensions, stretching from Edwards to Michigan Avenue below Erie.
Speaker 2: It will be the biggest thing by far in that
Speaker 2: entire area, and it will absolutely change the character and
Speaker 2: the tenor of Hyde Park Square.
Speaker 3: I hear you, I'm really.
Speaker 2: Glad you were there for your ice cream cone, and
Speaker 2: that is something you hear over and over again. People
Speaker 2: have memories, people have feeling about the square and the
Speaker 2: fact Sunday such a beautiful day hyde Park Farmers Market,
Speaker 2: thousands of people. I'm not kidding, incredible positive energy and feeling.
Speaker 2: I tell you that won't be the same if this
Speaker 2: gets built. And the fact of the matter is, if
Speaker 2: we can get the help of the people we need
Speaker 2: signing to get this on the ballot. I have every
Speaker 2: faith that once this is on the ballot, we win
Speaker 2: and this doesn't get built. But this again isn't about
Speaker 2: just Hyde Park Square. This is a city wide issue
Speaker 2: about citizen voice mattering.
Speaker 4: All.
Speaker 1: Let let's talk about what's in the containership. Explain the
Speaker 1: parking garage, underground parking garage, this huge building. Explained what's
Speaker 1: in the containership, and tell the American people about this
Speaker 1: underground parking.
Speaker 3: I love this image. I'm so glad you grabbed onto that.
Speaker 2: What they said they want to put on board this
Speaker 2: container ship one hundred and twenty approximately apartments ranging from
Speaker 2: studios to up two or three bedrooms. They also want
Speaker 2: to put in a ninety room hotel. They keep using
Speaker 2: a word to define it. They keep saying boutique. I
Speaker 2: don't think of ninety as boutique. That's a little bit big.
Speaker 2: They also, therefore, to manage this, they want to put
Speaker 2: in three stories underground in a place that used to
Speaker 2: be a lake parking. This to me doesn't sound like
Speaker 2: a great idea. All of this city council kept saying, well,
Speaker 2: it's about the housing. It's about the housing. It's about
Speaker 2: the housing. Then why are you approving a hotel? The
Speaker 2: thing that the city council could have done was that
Speaker 2: they could have said, no, you don't get the PD.
Speaker 2: That's what they actually passed.
Speaker 3: The PD is a development to it's called plan development.
Speaker 3: It removes many.
Speaker 2: Of the obstacles that the developers normally have to pass through,
Speaker 2: so citizens get to say it makes it easier for
Speaker 2: a developer to do some And here's our quick little
Speaker 2: piece that I hope other people will pick up on.
Speaker 2: A year ago, the rule required two acres. When they
Speaker 2: passed connected communities, they shrink the size from two acres
Speaker 2: to one point five acres to do a plan development.
Speaker 2: Guess what this project is on one point seven to
Speaker 2: eight acres. It's almost as if they custom changed the
Speaker 2: rule for this development. I understand other places are now
Speaker 2: that's being used for it, but the timing on that
Speaker 2: is really exceptional.
Speaker 1: You talk about affordable housing. Affordable housing to me is
Speaker 1: a rent of between eight hundred and maybe fifteen hundred
Speaker 1: a month. The rule of thumb is you spent about
Speaker 1: one third of your disposable income for housing. That's the
Speaker 1: general rule. I can't imagine these apartments in Hyde Park
Speaker 1: at a cost overall of over one hundred million dollars
Speaker 1: will have quote affordable rents, and so you don't have
Speaker 1: the rent structure, but I imagine they're going to be
Speaker 1: quite high.
Speaker 2: They have given the city and the public no real
Speaker 2: hard numbers about their business plan about where the rents
Speaker 2: will come out. They said, we have to wait for
Speaker 2: the PD. If we get the PD, we'll know more.
Speaker 2: They got the PD, they still haven't released that information.
Speaker 2: That's another one of my problems that city council is
Speaker 2: voting on something that's a concept, and then when they
Speaker 2: vote on the concept, they actually free the developer to
Speaker 2: do whatever they want. Beyond the concept. We have no
Speaker 2: idea what the rents will be. They're building that's closest
Speaker 2: to this on Watson Way. Those rents start at three thousand,
Speaker 2: eight hundred dollars. Now, I don't know if that's going
Speaker 2: to be the same, but three thousand, eight hundred dollars
Speaker 2: a month is not affordable housing.
Speaker 3: I don't belie leave.
Speaker 2: Other than the studios, any of these apartments might come
Speaker 2: in anywhere near the kind of number you just shared.
Speaker 3: Eight hundred to fifteen hundred.
Speaker 2: My guess, and it's just a guest because they haven't
Speaker 2: shared anything with us, they'll have to start in the
Speaker 2: mid twos at the lowest. More likely they'll be starting,
Speaker 2: especially for something with a bedroom or two even higher
Speaker 2: than that.
Speaker 3: But again, the.
Speaker 2: Building that they've built closest, called the Ilia, starts at
Speaker 2: thirty eight hundred and there used to be buildings. There
Speaker 2: are buildings still on Hyde Park Square with vacant apartments
Speaker 2: for a fraction of that. Yet city council is saying
Speaker 2: we need housing, we need housing, we need housing. Scotty
Speaker 2: Johnson was amazing, he said. Jimshelvan Kearney and he were
Speaker 2: the two champions here. Scotty said, I'm tired of city
Speaker 2: council hiding behind we need housing and then doing projects
Speaker 2: like this, doing things that don't bring us any kind
Speaker 2: of affordable housing.
Speaker 1: Well, my simple Deer Park, matthe if you spend about
Speaker 1: four one thousand dollars a month for a one bedroom
Speaker 1: or a two bedroom might be five thousand a month,
Speaker 1: you'd have to have about sixteen thousand dollars net a
Speaker 1: month in disposable income. Now sixteen thousand dollars a month,
Speaker 1: that's about two hundred thousand dollars a year net and
Speaker 1: disposable income to most Americans. There's two hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 1: a year after taxes. Is that affordable housing for average
Speaker 1: middle class Americans?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No, that's really true than that this is a subsidy
Speaker 2: effectively to a developer to make more money and to
Speaker 2: put housing in a very expensive place and make it
Speaker 2: possible for them to do it the way they want
Speaker 2: to do It has nothing to do with affordability of housing.
Speaker 2: That the average income in Hyde Park, it's one of
Speaker 2: the highest in the cities. Yeah, but it's still nowhere
Speaker 2: near what you're talking about, and that's not affordable housing.
Speaker 2: And I do agree with Scottie Johnson. I think that's
Speaker 2: been a smoke screen that has been used a lot.
Speaker 2: There's a project in Oakley which was shovel ready for
Speaker 2: housing units. City council turns it over and gives permission
Speaker 2: for them to build car condos.
Speaker 3: That's not housing. We just had another event just this week. Condo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because everybody has disposable income for a ferrari that
Speaker 2: needs a conduct correct affordable Yeah, exactly, very affordable.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Hyde Park compared to the other I
Speaker 1: guess fifty one communities, neighborhood councils Uh, you mentioned off
Speaker 1: the air that you've hooked up with Reverend Damon Lynch,
Speaker 1: and every now and then he has a lucid thought,
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking to myself the way, by the way,
Speaker 1: I like to think we're friends. But nonetheless describe how
Speaker 1: this is not necessarily only about Hyde Park, but it's
Speaker 1: about all fifty one communities, and how this council, like
Speaker 1: many others, don't pay attention to you because it's Hyde Park,
Speaker 1: and therefore you people can afford it. Know you're shut
Speaker 1: your mouth. How have you broadened out this movement?
Speaker 2: So this movement is actually supported by currently fourteen other
Speaker 2: neighborhood councils and community councils from all over the city,
Speaker 2: all the way from Washington Mount Washington in the east
Speaker 2: to Sailor Park.
Speaker 3: In the west.
Speaker 2: We have fourteen different committees that took votes wrote letters
Speaker 2: saying don't do this, to which the city council responded
Speaker 2: with crickets. Absolutely no response to the letters. They did
Speaker 2: not write anybody and said thank you.
Speaker 3: For your letter. Nothing.
Speaker 2: We also have four different civic organizations that have teamed
Speaker 2: with us. This is not a Hyde Park issue. But
Speaker 2: I will say this, if this can happen in Hyde Park,
Speaker 2: It can will, and in fact already has happened in
Speaker 2: neighborhood after neighborhood after neighborhood, Bondhill, Cliston, Cuff, I could go.
Speaker 2: These are all people who have joined us, and I
Speaker 2: could keep going. Neighborhood after neighborhood after neighborhood is getting
Speaker 2: railroaded by development that City Hall is getting a speed
Speaker 2: pass to rather than letting the voice of the people
Speaker 2: be heard. I'll be clear, Hyde Park wants development. We
Speaker 2: want to improve the square, we want to grow it,
Speaker 2: we want development. We just don't want that development. The
Speaker 2: way it's sized, the way it will cost the hotel.
Speaker 2: All of that is against zoning, which was just established
Speaker 2: a year ago in order to keep Hyde Park Hyde Park.
Speaker 2: And right now City Council is basically crumpling up that
Speaker 2: piece of paper, throwing it over their shoulder and saying,
Speaker 2: do what you want to do.
Speaker 3: Pee, okay, all.
Speaker 1: Right, John Zinzer, say Hyde Park Square, you need thousands
Speaker 1: of signatures. You have until May twenty third. Now we're
Speaker 1: about halfway through, and this is May thirteenth. You have
Speaker 1: only ten days to get believe it or not, it's
Speaker 1: May thirteenth, and pete rose tomorrow night's May fourteenth. But nonetheless,
Speaker 1: where can people go to sign because your fight today
Speaker 1: we'll be the fight of other citizens tomorrow and the
Speaker 1: week after, the month after. If you don't get the
Speaker 1: signatures and don't get on the ballot, and the way
Speaker 1: you go, and you're about halfway through the process, how
Speaker 1: are you coming with signatures? At this point?
Speaker 3: We are very excited by how we're doing.
Speaker 2: We have hundreds of volunteers in the field with thousands
Speaker 2: of petitions.
Speaker 3: We are really pleased with where we are. But we are.
Speaker 2: Absolutely keep on our foot, flat down on the accelerator.
Speaker 2: We are not letting up. We are going to get
Speaker 2: this number, and I would like to see us get
Speaker 2: double the number that we need. We are looking for
Speaker 2: fifteen thousand signatures. We're absolutely not there yet, so we
Speaker 2: need everybody to come and help us get those signatures.
Speaker 2: I'd be happy to tell you about a couple of
Speaker 2: different places.
Speaker 1: Tell me.
Speaker 2: We want to set up a few things right now
Speaker 2: to make it so easy for people. We want to
Speaker 2: do a couple of different drive buys where you can
Speaker 2: just stay in your car. We'll come to your window,
Speaker 2: hand you the petition talk you through whatever you need
Speaker 2: to answer, get your voting signature, your street address. You
Speaker 2: have to write out the word Cincinnati, you have to
Speaker 2: write out the word Hamilton, and then you have to
Speaker 2: date it and that's it. We can do this in
Speaker 2: a minute or two. One of the drive by locations
Speaker 2: which will be functioning on Tomorrow, Thursday and Friday is
Speaker 2: three four three five Michigan Avenue in Cincinnati is just
Speaker 2: off of Hyde Park. If you come on Eerie and
Speaker 2: turn right onto Michigan. This is right in front of
Speaker 2: the Unwind Wine Bar. We'll have volunteers there. You'll be
Speaker 2: able to just drive up between ten am and four
Speaker 2: pm the next three days Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Also on
Speaker 2: Wednesday at seven West Observatory Hill in Cincinnati, we will
Speaker 2: have a drive by there.
Speaker 3: That's just up by Allt Park.
Speaker 2: You're more than welcome to come by. There will be
Speaker 2: volunteers there. Also, really great place. There will be volunteers
Speaker 2: at the Farmers Market on four to two four two
Speaker 2: to two two Hamilton Avenue from five to seven tomorrow
Speaker 2: another great place to go. I want to mention just
Speaker 2: three other quick events. On the fifteenth after Pete Rose Day,
Speaker 2: the day after at one one one West McMicken the
Speaker 2: Northern Road Brewing. There will be an event inside. This
Speaker 2: is being run by our friends at Charter who are
Speaker 2: one of the civic groups who've teamed with us. They
Speaker 2: will be glad to do your petition right there. Please
Speaker 2: stop by there. Jim Tarbo will be a guest same night.
Speaker 2: A little further down the road, Price Hill Chili another
Speaker 2: place where we're getting collection of from five to eight pm,
Speaker 2: Pryce Hill Chilly.
Speaker 1: I've been there pretty good. I've been there.
Speaker 2: There we go, so you stop by, have a little
Speaker 2: something to eat, sign a petition.
Speaker 3: We would love to have that.
Speaker 2: This will also bring brought to us by the good
Speaker 2: folks at Charter. And then the last one of those
Speaker 2: is Saturday the seventeenth at six zero nine to five
Speaker 2: Montgomery Road nine and Brewing.
Speaker 3: That's another place that you can go all right.
Speaker 2: Of course, one of the one of the great places
Speaker 2: also as well Sunday at Hyde Park Square there's the
Speaker 2: Hyde Park Farmers Market.
Speaker 3: We'd love to have your signatures there. All of these
Speaker 3: are available.
Speaker 2: Easiest place to go get information rather than listening to
Speaker 2: me is save Hyde Parksquare dot org. All of these
Speaker 2: things are listed there. We love to have more people
Speaker 2: volunteer to help us get these signatures. We'd love everybody
Speaker 2: to keep showing up signing for us so we can
Speaker 2: get the voice of the citizens heard on this issue
Speaker 2: and every issue.
Speaker 1: Well, you're making too much sense to be in politics.
Speaker 1: Once again, Save Hyde Parksquare dot org and this Sunday,
Speaker 1: Hyde Park Square. I may stop by. I'll call you
Speaker 1: if I'm coming by and say a lot of that.
Speaker 1: I love coming there. Save Hyde Parksquare dot org. You know, John,
Speaker 1: they're counting on you and other citizens like Damon Lynch.
Speaker 1: Know your role and shut your mouth and hopefully that
Speaker 1: won't be the case. Not going to do it, I
Speaker 1: said to that, But let's do it again as we
Speaker 1: to the twenty third. But John Zinzer, once again, thanks
Speaker 1: for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. We'll do it
Speaker 1: again in John Zinzer, You're a great American. And give
Speaker 1: my best to Robert and Bobby Joseph. Bobby Joseph is
Speaker 1: the best. And once again thanks for coming on the
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 3: Thank you, John, Thank you, Bill appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Let's continue with more. Save Hard Parksquare dot org is
Speaker 1: all the sights, know your role and shut your mouth.
Speaker 1: I haven't done much of that. Bill Cunningham, News Radio
Speaker 1: seven hundred WULW Billy Billy Cunningham. The Great American Reds
Speaker 1: Baseball kicks off about five forty tonight with the White
Speaker 1: Sox in Town and Andrew ben Attende of Madeira High School.
Speaker 1: I understand it's not playing on the DL one reason
Speaker 1: or another. Of course, Tomorrow night's honoring Pete Rose and
Speaker 1: his contributions to the people of Cincinnati, to especially to
Speaker 1: the Reds, and to sports in general. I remember him
Speaker 1: for the great things he did, not for the bad things.
Speaker 1: I think Julius Caesar had once said, remember him that
Speaker 1: made the bad be interred with his bones, and the
Speaker 1: good live forever. And my memories of Pete are among
Speaker 1: the best I could have about any person I've ever
Speaker 1: been around. I had the honor of being around him
Speaker 1: quite often, and it was wonderful. Any day with Pete
Speaker 1: Rose was a great day. So that'll be acknowledged tomorrow night,
Speaker 1: White Sox in Town. The home of Shoe was Joe Jackson,
Speaker 1: which is somewhat appropriate, but nonetheless we'll see what happens
Speaker 1: tomorrow night. After one o'clock today, doctor Kurt Masseli will
Speaker 1: be here to talk about to Do No Harm, which
Speaker 1: is what DEI and the infections they're in due to
Speaker 1: the medical schools, the colleges, the universities, et cetera. Do
Speaker 1: No Harm dot com is the website's pretty good. But
Speaker 1: having discussed this matter with John Zinzer, by the way,
Speaker 1: I've never met him in person. I'm gonna try this
Speaker 1: Sunday to meet him about what's happening at Hyde Park Square.
Speaker 1: Know your role and shut your mouth. The city planners
Speaker 1: and the multi billionaire developers and city council no better
Speaker 1: than the residents who live in the area. And this
Speaker 1: is a laughable matter when you consider that. The argument
Speaker 1: is we need more affordable housing. I don't know how
Speaker 1: many Americans can afford to pay three to five thousand
Speaker 1: dollars a month in rent, and that means, if the
Speaker 1: standards are correct, you have to have a take home
Speaker 1: pay of around two hundred thousand dollars a year to
Speaker 1: pay the rent to live in one of these fancy apartments,
Speaker 1: which I think is great if you can afford it.
Speaker 1: Have added, but don't lie to me in the process. Please,
Speaker 1: please don't lie to me and tell me this is
Speaker 1: about affordable housing. It's got nothing to do with affordable housing.
Speaker 1: It has a lot to do with developers paying politicians
Speaker 1: money in the form of campaign donations. Underline that, think
Speaker 1: of many other Democrats who have gone down the tubes
Speaker 1: recently for taking money they shouldn't have taken. And secondly,
Speaker 1: to have individuals with high income move into the city
Speaker 1: because of the two point one percent earnings text which
Speaker 1: I think right now is one point nine percent but
Speaker 1: is going to go up, and so to fund their
Speaker 1: social spending. The Democrats on City Council and there are
Speaker 1: no repebls against its nine zip Democrats have got to
Speaker 1: get more money in the coffers. The way to get
Speaker 1: more money in the coffers is to lie and then
Speaker 1: on one hand, but on the other hand, have individuals
Speaker 1: with high disposable income, which I think is great to
Speaker 1: move into these apartments because of the taxes they bring
Speaker 1: with them. But don't urinate on me and tell me
Speaker 1: it's raining. I think John Zinz and others have seen
Speaker 1: through the charade and it's nothing but a charade. Should
Speaker 1: there be redevelopment of Hyde Park Square, absolutely, but not
Speaker 1: this type of redevelopment on Hyde Park Square. That's the differential.
Speaker 1: But I see this, of course, across the political spectrum.
Speaker 1: I see it across the legal spectrum. In my other life,
Speaker 1: I represented many generally men. I think one woman in
Speaker 1: my career who was committing domestic violence against their loved one,
Speaker 1: of their spouse, their wife, generally, and the majority of time,
Speaker 1: at some point the woman finally had enough and said
Speaker 1: I can't take it anymore. I'm leaving her sisters or
Speaker 1: dad or mother, her brothers or girlfriend said you can't
Speaker 1: continue like this. Most of the time a woman in
Speaker 1: that circumstance hits the bricks. If they constantly see a
Speaker 1: man raising their hand to them, they can't take it anymore.
Speaker 1: But some have got to stay. Some because of their
Speaker 1: self image and because maybe of the kids or the
Speaker 1: financial circumstances take the abuse. It's kind of called the
Speaker 1: Stockholm syndrome. As you know, it's a well known psychological disorder.
Speaker 1: It began in nineteen seventy three during a bank robbery
Speaker 1: incident that happened in Stockholm, Sweden. During a six and
Speaker 1: a half day stand off with the police, many of
Speaker 1: the captive bank employees became sympathetic towards the bank robbers,
Speaker 1: and after they were set free, some of the bank
Speaker 1: employees refused to testify against the bank robbers in court
Speaker 1: and even raise money for the defense. That's the Stockholm syndrome.
Speaker 1: You take on the roles, you take on the skills,
Speaker 1: should take on the motives, you take on the goals
Speaker 1: of those that are hurting you, because you can't get
Speaker 1: out of that loop. It's called the Stockholm syndrome. And
Speaker 1: the bank robbers in Sweden had some complaint against capitalism
Speaker 1: and civilization and they wanted to bring down the banking system. So,
Speaker 1: having spent like six days being lectured to by these
Speaker 1: bank robbers, some of the employees, by the way, they
Speaker 1: were all women who suffered from this syndrome, wanted to
Speaker 1: raise money to free their captives, their captors. It's unbelievable,
Speaker 1: but it happens, and you see it with domestic violence.
Speaker 1: I listened to GEN this morning with Scott Sloan talking
Speaker 1: about the P. Ditty case and the girlfriend a gorgeous woman.
Speaker 1: Her name's Cassie Ventura and she met P. Diddy when
Speaker 1: she was nineteen and the P man was about thirty
Speaker 1: seven years old. So about eighteen year differential, and they
Speaker 1: had off again and off in relationships, shall we say,
Speaker 1: over those seventeen years or so. She's now thirty eight
Speaker 1: years old, and she's expected to recount for the jury
Speaker 1: a lifetime, in fact, a decade and a half of
Speaker 1: physical abuse, of use of her body for lascivious purposes,
Speaker 1: control over her complete life, and frequent beatings. And she
Speaker 1: for years could not get out of it. She stayed,
Speaker 1: and she was taped to videod at the behest top
Speaker 1: did it to have sex with numerous men committing numerous
Speaker 1: degrading acts upon her body. And she stayed for a
Speaker 1: long time, couldn't get out. She suffered from Stockholm syndrome.
Speaker 1: And I see it happening in the political world all
Speaker 1: the time, Stockholm syndrome. And what it means is that
Speaker 1: you maybe live in a blue stin hopefully not in
Speaker 1: the blue state, and that you keep voting for those
Speaker 1: harming you because you can't get out of that. That's centrifuge,
Speaker 1: that that circle. You can't leave it. And it's not
Speaker 1: because you benefit from liberal democratic politics. Oh no, you're
Speaker 1: hurt by it. And I look all around me at
Speaker 1: the evidence of not just for a year or two,
Speaker 1: a cycle or two, a decade or two. But in
Speaker 1: many great American cities like Detroit or Chicago, it goes
Speaker 1: on for one hundred years, and those captured by the
Speaker 1: Stockholm syndrome keep voting for those causing the problems and
Speaker 1: the abuse. It's truly, it's truly unbelievable. You look around
Speaker 1: most major American cities. Cincinnati is not quite there, and
Speaker 1: it's because of Western Southern the Joseph Automotive Group, FC,
Speaker 1: fifth Third Bank, Procter in God's corporate shall we say,
Speaker 1: foundations that say not on my watch. But those institutions
Speaker 1: are vacant now. From Chicago, Detroit, Los Angeles, San Francisco,
Speaker 1: a lot of the evens described by the residents as hellholes,
Speaker 1: abandoned buildings, crime, drugs, homelessness, lousy, dysfunctional schools, no job creation, nothing.
Speaker 1: But those were living in those areas, like those bank
Speaker 1: employees in Stockholm are like Cassie Ventura can't get out
Speaker 1: of it and say, wait a minute, we don't have
Speaker 1: to live like this. The addiction, the economic ruin, the
Speaker 1: mobs like on you know, the banks on the Ohio River.
Speaker 1: I had on of course, ken Kober talked about mobs
Speaker 1: of teenagers with guns, smoking pot looking at looking for
Speaker 1: their next victim. It's the economic ruination that decay, the destruction,
Speaker 1: all the lives lost and all the lives damaged and
Speaker 1: wake all that didn't listen to any self reflection or
Speaker 1: course correction from the left. They never said. In fact,
Speaker 1: in the last couple elections, there was one Republican running
Speaker 1: and she was soundly defeated, and the Democratic Liberals in
Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati keep voting for those who have
Speaker 1: caused the problems they complain about. It's to me, it's
Speaker 1: more than amazing, it's unbelievable. I think evil comes to mind.
Speaker 1: The relationship between the Liberal Democratic Party, blue cities and
Speaker 1: blue states and its voters is the relationship between the
Speaker 1: abuser and the victim who can't escape it. I'm told
Speaker 1: that if you're in Dayton or Cleveland, or Cincinnati the
Speaker 1: city thereof, or Chicago, it's worse. Blue city, blue state.
Speaker 1: It's awful. And I hope our city doesn't go go
Speaker 1: down that route. When do we have a city council
Speaker 1: telling the residents of the city we have to have
Speaker 1: more affordable housing than green lighting a project with three
Speaker 1: to five thousand dollars a month in rent. There you're
Speaker 1: wet and they're telling you it's raining, but they're urinating
Speaker 1: on you. Can you figure this out? What's happening? Maybe not.
Speaker 1: I don't want my city to be like so many
Speaker 1: other blue city, blue state. If you've got a blue
Speaker 1: city in a red state Ohio, for example, you got
Speaker 1: a shot because the restraints of state government will stop it.
Speaker 1: But right now Cincinnati has a relationship with his voters
Speaker 1: like the abuser with the victim of their policies. Would
Speaker 1: anyone send their kid to use high school and if
Speaker 1: they had a choice or Woodward High School? Most of
Speaker 1: the grade schools are completely dysfunctional, little or no family formation,
Speaker 1: rampant drug use, open air marijuana being smoked, needles on
Speaker 1: the ground. And those in charge of this promised to
Speaker 1: do better. Well, they've had more than a half a
Speaker 1: century to do better, and they've done worse. You might
Speaker 1: know that FCC and the great Carl Linder was able
Speaker 1: to do what he's done in the East End, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: the West End only because of a five to four vote.
Speaker 1: There were four Liberals on city Council, and I guess pg.
Speaker 1: Sittenvel was bribed directly or indirectly voting yes that they
Speaker 1: wanted to keep the drugs in the Section eight housing
Speaker 1: and the rampant lawlessness and the homelessness. They wanted to
Speaker 1: keep it going. Let's do more of it. Five to four.
Speaker 1: And if the three of the four hadn't gone to
Speaker 1: federal prison, they probably would have been re elected again
Speaker 1: and again and again. It's the relationship between the abuser
Speaker 1: and the victim. Now here's Dave, if you have it ready.
Speaker 1: Malcolm X, the great by some standards, Malcolm X, who
Speaker 1: was murdered by the Nation of Islam because he outed
Speaker 1: Elijah Mohammad, the leader of the Nation of Islam, for
Speaker 1: sleeping with teenage girls, had this comment about conservatives and liberals.
Speaker 1: You can't believe this about sixty years ago. Dave hit it.
Speaker 4: The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in
Speaker 4: one way. The liberal is more deceitful, more hypocritical than
Speaker 4: the conservative. Both want power, but the white liberal is
Speaker 4: the one who has perfected the art opposing as the
Speaker 4: negro's friend and benefactor, and by winning the friendship and
Speaker 4: support of the negro, the white liberal is able to
Speaker 4: use the Negro as a pawn or a weapon in
Speaker 4: this political football game that is constantly raging between the
Speaker 4: white liberals and the white conservatives. The American Negro is
Speaker 4: nothing but a political football, and the white liberals control
Speaker 4: this ball through tricks or tokenism, false promises of integration
Speaker 4: and civil rights. In this game of deceiving and using
Speaker 4: the American Negro, the white liberals have complete cooperation of
Speaker 4: the civil ranks lead.
Speaker 1: You sixty years ago. Malcolm X is reaching to you
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five saying, don't believe liberal Democrats. They're
Speaker 1: not your friends, they're not your benefactors. You are being
Speaker 1: used by them for their political power. Do you accept
Speaker 1: any of this? Can I understand what's happening? What's going on,
Speaker 1: Malcolm X with the Great American telling liberal democrats, especially
Speaker 1: black liberal democrats, look at what that party has done
Speaker 1: to you and not for you. When will you stop
Speaker 1: being used by them? How much longer will it take
Speaker 1: to say we can't live like this, we can't take
Speaker 1: this anymore. Malcolm X is telling you what to do.
Speaker 1: We just throw the bums out. Change what you're doing.
Speaker 1: Don't anticipate different results, doing exactly the same thing. All right,
Speaker 1: let's continue if the line ever becomes available five one, three, seven, four, nine,
Speaker 1: seven thousand. I didn't think this would appear, but I
Speaker 1: guess it has. You have Bill Cunningham and Malcolm X
Speaker 1: both saying the same thing. Bill Cunningham seven hundred WW
Speaker 1: by Bill Cunningham, the Great America, And once again the
Speaker 1: President has acted a little Passes one hundred day and
Speaker 1: the President has signed numerous eos executive orders dismantling demanding
Speaker 1: accrediting bodies to stop imposing DEI requirements on schools, whether
Speaker 1: it's Jale or Harvard, or U c l A or
Speaker 1: University of Cincinnati, also medical schools, and also the American
Speaker 1: Bar Association, a very liberal organization, wants to use DEI
Speaker 1: as far as the eye can see. But doctor Kurt
Speaker 1: Mascelli is the medical director at Do No Harm, and
Speaker 1: Do No Harm has been leading voice exposing medical accrediting
Speaker 1: bodies for putting politics ahead of patients. And doctor Miscelli,
Speaker 1: welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all,
Speaker 1: let's go over the last several decades. There's been numerous
Speaker 1: attempts by the US Supreme Court to get racism out
Speaker 1: of schools, out of the workplace, out of schools, but
Speaker 1: that has largely been accomplished in my view, and so liberals,
Speaker 1: not happy with equal and playing grounds, want to change
Speaker 1: this argument, which is DEI. So first of all, tell
Speaker 1: the American people what is du what is d I?
Speaker 1: Then we'll talk about critical race theory. What is it?
Speaker 5: In essence, absolutely so diversity equit inclusion. DEI unfortunately, really
Speaker 5: has been this effort to promote discrimination and actions within
Speaker 5: universities and systems throughout our country that has really put
Speaker 5: people into positions based on their identity, whether their race
Speaker 5: or gender, whatever it might be. And it really looks
Speaker 5: at us in a very Unamerican way by putting us
Speaker 5: into groups oppressor and oppressed, and creating this dynamic that
Speaker 5: causes tremendous strife and struggle. And we've seen it. We've
Speaker 5: seen it whether through accreditation agencies, through schools where discriminatory
Speaker 5: practices are put in place, and we've lost sight of
Speaker 5: the importance of merit and of quality that really needs
Speaker 5: to be at the heart and soul of what we
Speaker 5: do and what has made America a great country.
Speaker 1: And doctor Marcelli, Liberals and mainly ninety nine percent Democrats
Speaker 1: control this process. If you're at Harvard or Yale or UCLA,
Speaker 1: University of Chicago, any of the so called top colleges
Speaker 1: are all dominated by liberals. I would also think that
Speaker 1: the great majority of labor unions are dominated by liberals,
Speaker 1: the great majority of the captains of industry are dominated
Speaker 1: by liberals, the great majority of big city mayors are
Speaker 1: dominated by liberal Democrats. So isn't it somewhat odd that
Speaker 1: those who on surface oppose race discrimination employ it. Isn't
Speaker 1: that somewhat peculiar?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I think it really gets to the heart and soul
Speaker 5: of where we need to focus on and focusing on
Speaker 5: who we are as Americans and really not getting into
Speaker 5: conversations that do put us in different categories and that
Speaker 5: separate us and divide us. And I think it's so
Speaker 5: important that we as Americans, as students, as educators, as
Speaker 5: consumers are very much aware of that and know the
Speaker 5: importance of the merit and the quality that we see
Speaker 5: and really not to let these un American principles take hold.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's what we're doing a do no harm,
Speaker 5: That's what we're doing. When we focus on the medical
Speaker 5: space and healthcare, we know that Americans want healthcare to
Speaker 5: be excellent. When you're in that journey, when you're in
Speaker 5: that er, you want the very best doctor before you,
Speaker 5: the very best, the very best caretakers who can make
Speaker 5: sure that you're going to be well, your family's going
Speaker 5: to be well. And we don't want things like immutable
Speaker 5: characteristics and really this sort of divisive dynamic taking place.
Speaker 5: We want it to be really an approach that looks
Speaker 5: at the patient and looks at what can be done
Speaker 5: that's best for them. So, yeah, there's a lot of
Speaker 5: work that we need to do, and we're encouraged by
Speaker 5: really tackling this issue of identity politics with an administration
Speaker 5: that's willing to look at all sorts of various avenues
Speaker 5: to make our country into a much better state. And
Speaker 5: really those values that we're founded upon, that meritocracy that
Speaker 5: is at our fundamental base.
Speaker 1: Meritocracy is terribly important, Doctor Masseli, Before we get to
Speaker 1: medical school, I see that Harvard has now changed. They
Speaker 1: had a chief Officer of a Diversity, Equity and Inclusion.
Speaker 1: They had a Chief DEI Officer. They had about sixty
Speaker 1: employees hired at Harvard in the Department of DEI then
Speaker 1: now I've changed the name because of catching too much flock,
Speaker 1: and they kind of call it the Director of Community Involvement,
Speaker 1: And so I would anticipate the goal now will be
Speaker 1: to eliminate DEI in principle, but not in practice. Have
Speaker 1: you noticed that little bit of a subtle change.
Speaker 5: Now you're certainly onto something, and you're absolutely right. I mean, unfortunately,
Speaker 5: it's DEI as an entity as a principle that needs
Speaker 5: to be eliminated because of the discrimination, because of the divisiveness.
Speaker 3: If that is the.
Speaker 5: Idea that needs to go away, and we've seen other
Speaker 5: schools do this as well.
Speaker 3: If you look at.
Speaker 5: Schools that have changed the names of their department, and
Speaker 5: they might not be a quote unquote DEI department, but
Speaker 5: as you say, something very different. But if they're doing
Speaker 5: the same things, then it's just as problematic. And unfortunately,
Speaker 5: many of these institutions over the past decade plus have
Speaker 5: actually embedded DEI very much into their organizational base, and
Speaker 5: we sought the University of Michigan throughout that system. I
Speaker 5: think there are almost a thousand different employees that were
Speaker 5: related to DEI in some way, shape or form, and
Speaker 5: maybe not all of them are full time or such.
Speaker 5: But nonetheless, it's a tremendous dei infrastructure that's built in
Speaker 5: place and really does need to be dismantled in order
Speaker 5: for us to make sure that the meritocracy is what's
Speaker 5: driving the day and not ideology and not division.
Speaker 1: So you're saying, in one public University of Michigan, the
Speaker 1: home of the Wolverines, they have about a thousand employees
Speaker 1: hired to root out discrimination at Michigan by practicing it.
Speaker 1: It's kind of and you also have something on your
Speaker 1: website implicit bias training for Michigan healthcare professionals. When you
Speaker 1: can't find discrimination, and these thousand individuals at Michigan University
Speaker 1: have got to be spending every day trying to find discrimination.
Speaker 1: They got to locate it. Maybe they should look at
Speaker 1: the football team that the main players in the football
Speaker 1: team are seventy percent black because it's a meritocracy. I
Speaker 1: don't care if they are one hundred percent one hundred
Speaker 1: percent black, as long as it's a meritocracy. But if
Speaker 1: you don't find discrimination in your organization, you have to
Speaker 1: change to something called implicit bias. Explain what that is?
Speaker 5: Sure, that's you know that implicit bias idea is that
Speaker 5: we harbor these biases within ourselves that we don't even
Speaker 5: necessarily know about.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: They're they're implicit, not explicit, but but we harbor them
Speaker 5: towards people a different color, different sex, different religion, whatever
Speaker 5: it might be, and that as a consequence of those
Speaker 5: implicit biases, we are essentially doing bad things to other people.
Speaker 5: And I think it's a terrible concept because it accuses
Speaker 5: somebody of practicing racism or sexism or or whatever it
Speaker 5: might be, as opposed to really looking at who they
Speaker 5: are as an individual and who that person is. And
Speaker 5: I think for each and every one of us, it's
Speaker 5: so important to recognize that the implicit bias idea has
Speaker 5: been so baked into critical race theory and so baked
Speaker 5: into fostering more division exclusion. We need to look past that.
Speaker 5: We need to look to again the individual, who is
Speaker 5: that person that stands before us. I know that we
Speaker 5: see that implicit bias training, whether as a mandatory factor
Speaker 5: and licensure in certain states again such as Michigan, but
Speaker 5: we also see it in some of the actual certification
Speaker 5: statements that physicians must sign on to. And so you know,
Speaker 5: the American Board of emergency medicine, for instance, requires physicians,
Speaker 5: if they're going to participate in the board certification process,
Speaker 5: to acknowledge their implicit and explicit biases. And again that
Speaker 5: really presents a charge on somebody that already going into things.
Speaker 5: They're doing things in the wrong way. They're doing things
Speaker 5: because of racism, structural racism, of all these different ideas,
Speaker 5: and that doesn't judge people based on the individual and
Speaker 5: who they are and how they're performing. Especially in an
Speaker 5: emergency department situation where people are coming in at critical
Speaker 5: moments in their life. The last thing that we're thinking
Speaker 5: about is the race of the individual. The first thing
Speaker 5: we're thinking about is how do we save this person?
Speaker 5: How do we help them immediately? And so it really
Speaker 5: becomes very wearing on the medical profession and medical field,
Speaker 5: and frankly, we've seen people decide not to renew their
Speaker 5: license or not to participate. You know, we need more
Speaker 5: healthcare providers to provide good quality care, not less, and
Speaker 5: it's training such as that, but unfortunately drive people away
Speaker 5: because of the ideology that they.
Speaker 1: Impart great point, doctor cart missally, So you're saying, if
Speaker 1: a young Bill Cunningham wanted to go to medical school,
Speaker 1: I'd have to first certify that I'm a racist. I
Speaker 1: have to certify that I understand that I need implicit
Speaker 1: bias training. I have to say that I need training
Speaker 1: on critical race theory. I have to certify that I'm
Speaker 1: I'm an anti racism advocate. So to get into medical school,
Speaker 1: I have to certify that I'm a racist. To become
Speaker 1: a doctor.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, for medical schools, there is a process
Speaker 5: that has folks will out an application and oftentimes those
Speaker 5: applications are very much related to the diversity initiative that
Speaker 5: someone has taken. It's a little bit later that often
Speaker 5: comes out the demands for implicit bias and you know,
Speaker 5: it depends on the school. Some schools it might be
Speaker 5: the first week where folks are learning about anti racism
Speaker 5: and healthcare and tranquil the first week of orientation, if anything,
Speaker 5: should be about the practice of medicine, the hippocratic oath,
Speaker 5: the values of what brings us there. But unfortunately the
Speaker 5: ideology is there. And necessarily what I was speaking to
Speaker 5: was the board certification, so is as one actually is
Speaker 5: now an independently practicing physician. Unfortunately, some board requirements have
Speaker 5: made folks acknowledge their implicit bias or as we said,
Speaker 5: some licenses in order to be that independently practicing position.
Speaker 5: It really I mean, you're right, much of it does
Speaker 5: start in the medical school and even the application process,
Speaker 5: and unfortunately it just sometimes gets worse along the way.
Speaker 5: And that's what an organization like to no harm. I mean,
Speaker 5: that's what we're really combating, is to look at these
Speaker 5: elements of DEI that have been so destructive and so divisive,
Speaker 5: looking to find ways of focusing on quality, focusing on
Speaker 5: merrit focusing on the things that really matter to folks
Speaker 5: when they're in that healthcare environment.
Speaker 1: We can a black person be racist if I'm a
Speaker 1: black gay man and I'm applying, Do I have to
Speaker 1: certify that I'm a ra system and have anti gay biases?
Speaker 1: Is this only for a white Christian males? Or does
Speaker 1: a black person have to certify that they're they're not
Speaker 1: a racist? They need to certify they have have to
Speaker 1: certify that I have biases and as a black person,
Speaker 1: therefore I need to be cured of my biases. Does
Speaker 1: it only apply to one gender, one race or everybody?
Speaker 5: You know, these application questions are open for everybody to
Speaker 5: to state their their experience with diversity, equity, inclusion and
Speaker 5: such and and so it really does leave it open
Speaker 5: to everyone to offer their thoughts about those things. But again,
Speaker 5: is that really part and parcel to what an emission
Speaker 5: process should entail And shouldn't we be looking at the
Speaker 5: grades and the test performance. And you know, additionally, it's
Speaker 5: certainly fair to understand the cricular activities and the things
Speaker 5: that someone has done the course of their life. But
Speaker 5: when we lose when we focus unfortunately on on race
Speaker 5: and division, we lose sight of those elements that that
Speaker 5: look towards qualifications. And one of the things that we
Speaker 5: do know is that students who do better on the MCAP,
Speaker 5: the emission test for medical school, tend to perform better
Speaker 5: in medical school. We know that students who do better
Speaker 5: in medical school tend to perform better in residency training
Speaker 5: as a physician. And we know that resident physicians who
Speaker 5: pass the board exams, for instance, will actually have better
Speaker 5: outcomes in terms of mortality and readmissions for Medicare beneficiary.
Speaker 5: So we know there's a chain of connection there that
Speaker 5: merit does matter. It matters to how that physician is
Speaker 5: going to perform and how they're going to function. And again,
Speaker 5: I think it's each and every one of us who
Speaker 5: wants the very best provider before us when we're in
Speaker 5: that critical situation and need really life saving care, or
Speaker 5: any care for that matter, no matter what it may be.
Speaker 1: Doctor Misseli, I read a story in the Wall Street
Speaker 1: Journal that this industry and it's an industry of DEI
Speaker 1: and anti racism and critical race theory as practiced by
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of employees. This is this is a
Speaker 1: huge business, and this business will not be given up
Speaker 1: by those engaged in it lightly. They are completely believing
Speaker 1: that racism is hiding everywhere in American society, that critical
Speaker 1: race theory attributes all nations problems to racism no matter
Speaker 1: what it is, that all of us have an anti race,
Speaker 1: have a racism bias. We have to learn what anti
Speaker 1: racism is. We have to learn about gender affirming care,
Speaker 1: we have to learn about the biases. President, each of us,
Speaker 1: do you understand that this effort of yours and others
Speaker 1: is going to take a long time before the eight
Speaker 1: billion dollars and the hundreds of thousands working in this industry,
Speaker 1: They're not easily going to give up their work. You understand,
Speaker 1: it's about money. It's not about making better doctors or
Speaker 1: better lawyers or better cops. It's about making money. And
Speaker 1: the industry wants to make money when the when the
Speaker 1: issue is what's causing this difficulty or how to solve it,
Speaker 1: it's always about money, is it not? And then this industry,
Speaker 1: if there's a thousand people at the University of Michigan
Speaker 1: involved in this kind of crap, and that's just one
Speaker 1: of thousands of examples, those involved in this industry of
Speaker 1: racism will not quickly give up their business, correct.
Speaker 5: I think that's what we have to really be watchful for. So,
Speaker 5: for instance, University of Michigan has said, I think maybe
Speaker 5: a few weeks ago, that they will begin dismantling the
Speaker 5: DEI initiatives, and we need to follow that. We need
Speaker 5: to make sure that when organizations institutions say they're going
Speaker 5: to dismantle change things, that they truly rid themselves of
Speaker 5: those DEI principles that are discriminatory and that really hurt
Speaker 5: the meritocracy. It is very much ingrained in many institutions,
Speaker 5: many schools, and I think it's really cause to the
Speaker 5: importance of organizations like do No harm that are membership
Speaker 5: organizations and are focused on getting identity politics out of
Speaker 5: the medical profession and certainly for other organizations, you know,
Speaker 5: out of getting in at a very professional areas as well.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 5: It is going to take effort, it's going to take time,
Speaker 5: and it's going to take people speaking up. If we
Speaker 5: do No Harm, we have a tip line. We welcome
Speaker 5: people to come to our website do No Harmmedicine dot
Speaker 5: org so they can provide information as to what might
Speaker 5: be going on at their school or at their organization,
Speaker 5: their healthcare provider, hospital, or such whereby they where those
Speaker 5: organizations if they're not you know, really following principles really meritocracy,
Speaker 5: but still lead to di We're curious to hear about that.
Speaker 5: We want to be able to shine a light upon
Speaker 5: it because our belief is that if we can shine
Speaker 5: light upon this, we can make America where and we
Speaker 5: can really cause action to take place, because folks will
Speaker 5: realize that we need to restore and return to those
Speaker 5: principles that again focus on enhancing quality, on improving outcomes,
Speaker 5: and for medicine, it certainly relates to trust as well
Speaker 5: and the importance of having integrity and really believing in
Speaker 5: the medical system and having confidence that it will provide
Speaker 5: for you through throughout your lifetime.
Speaker 1: You know, doctor MASSELLI a lot of work ahead of you.
Speaker 1: And the liberals are hoping that Trump leaves office in
Speaker 1: about three and a half to four years. He's going
Speaker 1: to leave office, and they just hold on, rename DEI,
Speaker 1: rename discrimination, that we employ, change the name, and just
Speaker 1: way through or four years, we'll get maybe someone like
Speaker 1: Governor Pritzer or maybe Kamala Harris will be the next
Speaker 1: president and we're back in business again, beating the dead
Speaker 1: horse of racism for personal benefit lots of money. And
Speaker 1: I would know that Michelle Obama or podcast recently said
Speaker 1: that racism is everywhere and that way to fight against it,
Speaker 1: and that's a big industry. It's a lie that all
Speaker 1: of us have implicit advices of one type or another.
Speaker 1: But it's not intrinsic, it is not incorrigible. It doesn't
Speaker 1: what we live in the most racially free organization America
Speaker 1: and the history of the world. I'm proud to be
Speaker 1: an American and I'm proud of what we've done. And
Speaker 1: the liberals who must be fun that must be identified
Speaker 1: and it's going to take more than four years of
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. It's going to take a long time. As
Speaker 1: we took us thirty years to get here, may take
Speaker 1: us thirty years to get out. But the longest journey
Speaker 1: begins for the first step. Do no Harmmedicine dot Org.
Speaker 1: Doctor Curt Masseli, good luck to you, and God bless
Speaker 1: you and God bless America.
Speaker 5: Thank you very much, Doc, appreciate Bill, thank you so
Speaker 5: much for having me.
Speaker 1: God bless America. Let's continue with more. When you fund
Speaker 1: an organization, you get more of it. When you fund
Speaker 1: these groups that DEI all over colleges, universities, police departments,
Speaker 1: municipal governments, the US military and the National Guard. Fund
Speaker 1: all these groups, you get more of it. So they
Speaker 1: keep looking for racism when it doesn't exist to justify
Speaker 1: their job.
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Speaker 2: Joseah No, that's looped out the right field.
Speaker 1: You change a subject real quick on that loop out
Speaker 1: the right field. I'm just describing the action. I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure we don't have a seven seven second delay.
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Speaker 1: Would you agree? You're not kidding? Hilarious? How about him?
Speaker 1: And uh and Trumpy and how about Marty and Marty,
Speaker 1: Joe and Pete? Nothing better? Classic and classic Rose report. Yes,
Speaker 1: I say, I have some questions here. Yes, one of
Speaker 1: your arch nemesis wants to uh quiz you on Pete
Speaker 1: Rose in order to demonstrate your lack of knowledge. Of course,
Speaker 1: I defend you have a chance. I get, I can
Speaker 1: tell I told the wild man, send whatever you want.
Speaker 1: And here's two or three questions coming as I speak.
Speaker 1: Are you prepared? I think so? All right? As usual
Speaker 1: has his facts wrong about Pete Rose saying there were
Speaker 1: fifty thousand fans at Riverfront on nine to eleven eighty five.
Speaker 1: There was really only forty seven and thirty seven. I said, well, sorry,
Speaker 1: here's the question. Yeah, on that night, uh huh. Of
Speaker 1: course Eric Shaw was on the mount correct, and Pete
Speaker 1: Rose was at the plate. Yes he was, and you
Speaker 1: were there, yep. He was hitting left handed and in
Speaker 1: the radio booth, and the ball was hit the left
Speaker 1: more or less left center. Mello Carmelo Martinez got the ball.
Speaker 1: But here's the question from the wild man. Are you prepared?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: He thinks you don't know who was the catcher for
Speaker 1: the Padres to go back in your mind, Eric, show
Speaker 1: is on the mound, Eric he Rose leveling his bat
Speaker 1: and then Joe's get down, Get down? But who was
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Speaker 1: it's still managing man, still Texas. Yeah, when the World Series?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Oji, let me give you another question because
Speaker 1: he wants to show a stupid jar. Okay, asked seg
Speaker 1: the big Pete Rose fan. He thinks he is. I
Speaker 1: guarantee you he didn't know the date of the May fifth,
Speaker 1: sevent nineteen seventy eight, served up pitt number three thousand.
Speaker 1: Who was pitching for the Expos when Pete Rose got
Speaker 1: his three thousand hit? Go back, it was May nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy eight. Let's see. Uh, well, come on about the
Speaker 1: only uh, come on about the only great pitcher I
Speaker 1: think the Expos ever had with Steve Rodgers bingo.
Speaker 7: Oh, okay, let's trying to think of somebody else but
Speaker 7: that name popped in my head.
Speaker 1: I think he wore number forty five. Seg won't know
Speaker 1: any of these questions, my ass recording.
Speaker 4: Good.
Speaker 1: Okay, here's another one. You're ready for the Yeah, two
Speaker 1: for two, go right ahead. What what was the last
Speaker 1: hit that Pete Rose had, of course in the reds uniform?
Speaker 1: Was it a single, a double, a triple, a home run?
Speaker 1: His last hit? I think it was, uh, well, I
Speaker 1: mean he's known for this, I mean single in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty six, and that's correct, Thank you. Now his last
Speaker 1: did everybody know that? Everybody knows that? Yeah? His last
Speaker 1: at bat? Okay, once against San Diego nineteen eighty six. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what was the at bat? And who was on the map? Pitcher?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Pitcher? Would you say nineteen eighty six. I'll give you
Speaker 1: a hint. He had quite a bit of props with
Speaker 1: the New York Yankees too, son, did a lot of
Speaker 1: good players. Come on, I think he had a big mustache,
Speaker 1: goose gossage. That's how about that? That is correct? See
Speaker 1: unbelievable Andy Mack segment. That's very good on your band.
Speaker 1: But by the way, you Willie, I make it much
Speaker 1: easier than it really is. Is that fair to say? Yes?
Speaker 1: And I love you dearly, but you're not a serious person.
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Speaker 1: and air eight five nine seven eight one forty eight
Speaker 1: twenty two. He also says that when Pete came in
Speaker 1: as the Reds manager in nineteen eighty four holding a
Speaker 1: press conference, I bet seg wasn't there. He was too
Speaker 1: busy stuff in his face with free food. Well, who
Speaker 1: would get Pete's comments for him? I wasn't eating food.
Speaker 1: I was probably getting tape for him, which go on
Speaker 1: which he was never which the bound man never did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this he did pretty must forget it as ridiculous. You've
Speaker 1: shown your brilliance. Yeah, a man was the smell like
Speaker 1: a man. Thank you, Pete Lear's Pride Market. Will he
Speaker 1: brought our lunch today?
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Speaker 7: We're gonna get off with Trey Hendrickson. What showed up
Speaker 7: today in the Bengals workout?
Speaker 1: Elizabeth not practicing a day after he voiced his displeasure
Speaker 1: as to the status of his contract talks with the Bengals. Uh,
Speaker 1: he is not a happy camper. Apparently he received a
Speaker 1: text message from Zach Taylor threatening him with fines if
Speaker 1: he does not show up at the mandatory mini camp
Speaker 1: in June. Here we go, and there's a rumor going
Speaker 1: around on X that the Buffalo Bills are going to
Speaker 1: open their season at home on Sunday night against Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow and the Bengals. The season opener in Buffalo Buffalo
Speaker 1: had nine feet of snow on the ground. Not in September,
Speaker 1: you fool, Yes, there will be will be. Yeah, first
Speaker 1: round pick mister Stewart did not practice because he's got
Speaker 1: stalled contract talks. Wide receiver T Higgins who was here
Speaker 1: last week? Not here today? What? Not here today? T Higgins? What?
Speaker 1: And no international games for the Bengals. Good Minnesota goes
Speaker 1: will go to Dublin in London and back to back weeks.
Speaker 1: What I got a text in the wild man He's okay?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 1: What he got more questions for me that I'm not
Speaker 1: a big Reds fan. He wasn't there when Pete got
Speaker 1: hit number three thousand, and I was there when Pete
Speaker 1: came up back as manager. He was stuffing his face
Speaker 1: with food. Is that true? No? This is this is
Speaker 1: idiotic and ignorant. I'm just talking about it. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying here it is. Now. Say let me, let me
Speaker 1: ask you, Let me bring you a thought. Are you ready?
Speaker 1: Go ahead? All right? You got two things to worry
Speaker 1: about in life, if you're healthy or if you're sick. Now,
Speaker 1: if you're healthy, you got nothing to worry about. But
Speaker 1: if you're sick, you got two things to worry about.
Speaker 1: Are you going to get better? Are you gonna get worse?
Speaker 8: Now?
Speaker 1: If you get better, you got nothing to worry about.
Speaker 1: If you get worse, you got two things to worry about.
Speaker 1: That is whether you're going to live or whether you're
Speaker 1: going to die. Now, if you live, you got nothing
Speaker 1: to worry about. But if you die, you got two
Speaker 1: things to worry about. Are you going to heaven you're
Speaker 1: going to go to hell.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: If you go to heaven, you got nothing to worry about.
Speaker 1: If you go to hell, you got two things to
Speaker 1: worry about that is extra crispy or regular? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: Red's update.
Speaker 7: Those Reds open up a six game homestand tonight with
Speaker 7: the first Did you get that from wild Man?
Speaker 8: Two?
Speaker 1: Or yes? Two stories? He's a little bit that's not
Speaker 1: on his realms. Sending me some more questions for you.
Speaker 1: By the way, you don't want to hear these questions.
Speaker 1: This is ignorant. What size waist was Pete Rose in
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five? And did you smell his jock? I
Speaker 1: don't respond to ignorant. First of three to night up
Speaker 1: against the Chicago White Sox. How does he know? You
Speaker 1: got two things?
Speaker 8: Story?
Speaker 1: Would he hug Pete? He would well probably did. If
Speaker 1: Pete said I need a personal favor. What would the
Speaker 1: wild Man have done? I'm pleading the fifth?
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Speaker 1: After the game. Got two things to worry about? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Cannon will go for the socks tonight against Andrew Abbott.
Speaker 1: By the way, what time was it when Pete Rose
Speaker 1: got hit for he was too busy giving Marty I
Speaker 1: can't say what it was given Marty Pete Rose Night
Speaker 1: Tomorrow night, will you have sold out Great American Ballpark?
Speaker 1: It was eight oh one.
Speaker 7: They will honor the late hit King. I was just
Speaker 7: about to say that. Seven hundred WLW Cincinnati Tax Resolution.
Speaker 7: Pete Party presented by Columbia Hyundai dot Com starts tomorrow
Speaker 7: at three live from the Holy Grail. You know what,
Speaker 7: wild I hope wild Man's there tomorrow. I'll challenge him
Speaker 7: with more Pete Rose trivia.
Speaker 6: Man Dennison is the last I gave.
Speaker 1: Why would I do that? Did you give Pete a shower?
Speaker 1: Why don't I do that? If Pete asked the wild
Speaker 1: Man to lather up on the shower, what would wild
Speaker 1: Man say? Hand me the soap.
Speaker 7: The Bengals schedule is going to be released tomorrow night,
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Speaker 1: It says, segment is worthless.
Speaker 7: Back to base Ball us caa small college baseball World Series.
Speaker 7: Today amid Atlantic Christian scoring four runs in the seventh
Speaker 7: to be Miami Middletown five to four. So unfortunately the
Speaker 7: thunder Hawks are out of the World Series.
Speaker 1: What the hell? FC Cincinnati made it official, Willy by
Speaker 1: signing MLS legend forty year old Key Kamara to a contract.
Speaker 1: What about Kaca?
Speaker 7: He is leading, He's this league's second leading all time
Speaker 7: scorer and forty seven regular season goals. But he can
Speaker 7: I guess he can still do it. Orange and Blue
Speaker 7: and Action tomorrow night at Toronto FC at seven, Fox
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Speaker 3: One.
Speaker 1: More questions than a wild Man seg Man. Who did
Speaker 1: Pete Rose hit the only Grand Slam? I don't care.
Speaker 1: I know this, you know what?
Speaker 7: Telling him to be down there tomorrow, I'll challenge him
Speaker 7: on any other any other right.
Speaker 1: Tell us be there and I'll tomorrow there. Of course,
Speaker 1: he can't get in. You're a trolie, has no radio business.
Speaker 1: He can't get in, Kenny, thank you, Pete wild Man.
Speaker 1: Can wild Man get in? Does he have that media pass? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a media pass.
Speaker 7: Had a little altercation in Florida and threw it into
Speaker 7: Rob Butcher's face.
Speaker 1: Not good, no, not good. When you throw your credential,
Speaker 1: So you'll be in the media room waiting, media room
Speaker 1: waiting for him, and he can't get in. Rob's gone. Now, well, no,
Speaker 1: wild Man can't get in either. He can't. No, he
Speaker 1: doesn't have a pass. Rob Butcher's gone, though he could
Speaker 1: get a Can he get a pass? No, I'm sure that. No,
Speaker 1: I won't major League Baseball in the Reds. Will that's
Speaker 1: already been determined. Two things to worry about. I have
Speaker 1: nothing to do that. It's the legacy of Rob Butcher continues,
Speaker 1: Then go, yeah, I got one more questionnaire?
Speaker 7: Also, WILLI we want to say happy bird birthday today
Speaker 7: to one of the greats, the senior writer emeritus of
Speaker 7: Bengal dot Com, the one and only Jeff Butch Hobson
Speaker 7: has a birthday today, Engill we Witch Butch a very
Speaker 7: happy birthday. I like on this Tuesday, May the thirteenth.
Speaker 1: And that guy likes me. Yep, let's talk about Trey Hendrickson.
Speaker 1: So now, Zach Taylor is bringing down the hammer on
Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson who raised money for Deer Park High School?
Speaker 1: Is that correct? It's getting ugly down there. Well, what
Speaker 1: do you do now? Segment? They're saying, you signed a contract,
Speaker 1: honor the contract didn't he sign this year. I think so, yes, yep.
Speaker 1: What you're saying that Bengal's going to open up in Buffalo,
Speaker 1: I don't know that's the rumor. Well what do you
Speaker 1: what do you know about it? Segment? I need information?
Speaker 1: Call wild Man, Willie and Otter of the beautiful day
Speaker 1: here rainy day in the tri State. We leave you
Speaker 1: with the immortal words of the stud dripport you never miss.
Speaker 1: You're in a slump.
Speaker 6: Don't ever let a picture tell you you're in a slump.
Speaker 6: I would tell people, do you do one of six
Speaker 6: things when you get into a wall?
Speaker 1: You know what they are? Yeah? Okay, Now tell me
Speaker 1: all right, closer to the plate for the way from
Speaker 1: the plate. Yes, up in the box, back in the box.
Speaker 6: Choke up in the bat more, choke down the bat more,
Speaker 6: make it heavier, make it lighter.
Speaker 1: Never change your swing. Your swing got you into the
Speaker 1: big leagues. That's the greatest advice for the hit king.
Speaker 1: Where was seg Man when Pete Rose's statue was dedicated?
Speaker 1: Were you there? Seg Were you there? Pete Rose dedication sliding?
Speaker 1: Were you there? Say? We got to go buy on
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW my Billy Cunningham the great American The
Speaker 1: wisdom our founding fathers is apparent to all that can see.
Speaker 1: And in seventeen eighty seven and Philadelphia, the Founding Fathers
Speaker 1: got together and draft the United States Constitution provided for
Speaker 1: an amendment process. I think there's twenty seven currently in
Speaker 1: which citizens can amend it by doing a couple things
Speaker 1: such as two thirds of the House, two thirds of
Speaker 1: the Senate, three force of the states. They had Article
Speaker 1: five also in the United States Constitution from seventeen eighty seven,
Speaker 1: which said that the Article five says that the can
Speaker 1: be a convention of the States. So instead of the
Speaker 1: process of amendment going through the Congress, it goes directly
Speaker 1: to the people. And one of the gentlemen in charge
Speaker 1: of this effort to have a Convention of the States
Speaker 1: is the honorable Mark Meckler. He's President of Citizens for
Speaker 1: Self Governance and Convention of the State's Action. And Mark Meckler,
Speaker 1: welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. Just in a
Speaker 1: general way, explain to the American people what is Article
Speaker 1: five of the US Constitution and how it might be
Speaker 1: applied today.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so you described the first part of Article five,
Speaker 8: which is where two thirds of both Houses can gather
Speaker 8: together in Congress and propose an amendment, and then that
Speaker 8: amendment becomes a suggestion to the states, and it takes
Speaker 8: three quarters of the states or thirty eight states to ratify.
Speaker 8: There's a second method in the Constitution, which says when
Speaker 8: two thirds of the states wants to gather in convention,
Speaker 8: they can pass resolutions through their legislatures. No governor's signature required,
Speaker 8: just legislatures, and they can request to gather in convention
Speaker 8: to propose amendments to the Constitution, same exact process. If
Speaker 8: they can get a majority of states to agree on
Speaker 8: a proposed amendment, then those amendments go out to the
Speaker 8: states for ratification. And it takes thirty eight states to
Speaker 8: ratify an amendment to the US Constitution.
Speaker 1: So how far along in the process are we sitting
Speaker 1: here in April of twenty twenty five you started many
Speaker 1: years ago. How many have signed up? And how many
Speaker 1: more to go?
Speaker 2: So we are well over halfway.
Speaker 8: We've got nineteen states that have done and I'm hoping
Speaker 8: for a couple more this year, including Ohio. So that
Speaker 8: would take us to twenty one, and that would leave
Speaker 8: us thirteen states. Shy of calling the first ever Convention
Speaker 8: of States in the history of the country.
Speaker 1: And what would be argued. Some have said this will
Speaker 1: be a disaster because will open up everything and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden you'll have more fighting, arguing and screaming.
Speaker 1: And then others say it's required. From my perspective, Mark
Speaker 1: as a great American, the budget deficits and term limits
Speaker 1: for the House in the center are critical. Those two
Speaker 1: things explain our current fiscal situation that the Convention of
Speaker 1: the States might help.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 8: Look, there's only three things that you can be discussed.
Speaker 8: Is anything that would impost term limits on DC, and
Speaker 8: that includes Congress, but also other federal officials like the
Speaker 8: Deep States staffers and bureaucrats. Second, is anything that would
Speaker 8: impose fiscal restraints, and you mentioned the budget. We are
Speaker 8: going to have to balance that budget. That's not going
Speaker 8: to happen from Washington, DC. We're going to have to
Speaker 8: impose those restraints. And finally, is the limitations on the scope, power,
Speaker 8: and jurisdiction of the federal government, telling them things like well,
Speaker 8: you may not be involved in education, or energy, or
Speaker 8: healthcare or the environment. These are things that were never
Speaker 8: intended for the federal government. That's power that's been usurped
Speaker 8: from the states, and we in the States are going
Speaker 8: to have to take that power back.
Speaker 1: And so if this thing convention actually occurs, it is limited.
Speaker 1: You know, I'll open up the whole thing. What you
Speaker 1: do is limited to only these three items, which I
Speaker 1: think most of the American people agree with, I would
Speaker 1: think correct. In other words, it wouldn't be unlimited about
Speaker 1: all these other extraneous matters.
Speaker 8: No, it's absolutely not unlimited. In fact, you can't get
Speaker 8: the convention until you have a supermajority of states that
Speaker 8: agree on those limitations in advance. And so this idea
Speaker 8: that somehow it could get completely out of control where
Speaker 8: you go into convention with a supermajority that agree these
Speaker 8: are the only things we can talk about. Anything outside
Speaker 8: of that would be outside the jurisdiction of the convention
Speaker 8: and can't even be discussed. And even if it were, remember,
Speaker 8: anything that comes out of convention is still just a suggestion,
Speaker 8: and it has to be ratified by thirty eight states.
Speaker 8: So this idea of what they call, quot unquote a
Speaker 8: runaway convention is just crazy.
Speaker 1: Well, it's a it's one of those canards that not
Speaker 1: based in reality. But it's a shout down those and
Speaker 1: you'd have to have louse states signing on to this thing.
Speaker 1: We don't have. Sadly, at this point two thirds of
Speaker 1: the states that have Democrats and the legislature. Why would
Speaker 1: the Democrats who are benefiting from the system currently want
Speaker 1: to sign on with the Republicans. Well, what's the argument
Speaker 1: for Democrat legislatures to sign on? Yeah, you know, I.
Speaker 8: Travel around the country. I'm in Democrat legislatures all the time,
Speaker 8: and I talk to Democrats right now. They're especially interested
Speaker 8: in this because I say, do you like the idea
Speaker 8: of Donald Trump or a conservative Supreme Court or Republican
Speaker 8: Congress telling you what to do? Or do you want
Speaker 8: to have your own power in your own state? You know,
Speaker 8: first of all, I make sure i'm at least arms
Speaker 8: distance away, because I don't want to get punched by
Speaker 8: a Democrat by.
Speaker 1: Final a Democrat.
Speaker 8: But they hate the idea of Republicans singing control in DC,
Speaker 8: and they like the idea restoring their own state sovereignty.
Speaker 8: They have, for example, California, while it's very leftist, it
Speaker 8: doesn't want to hear from President Trump. He doesn't want
Speaker 8: to hear from the Supreme Court telling.
Speaker 3: Them what to do.
Speaker 8: This is truly bipartisan. The only thing that does is
Speaker 8: give power back to the states, and that means a
Speaker 8: state like Illinois is going to get its power and
Speaker 8: a state like Texas or Ohio going to get their
Speaker 8: power back. So it is not a partisan issue.
Speaker 1: Talk about the fiscal circumstance in America. Even though most
Speaker 1: of us in talk radio kind of enjoy the presidency
Speaker 1: of Donald Trump, we still have a thirty six trillion
Speaker 1: dollar national debt, We still have one hundred trillion dollars
Speaker 1: or more and unfundited liabilities. We still have a yearly
Speaker 1: deficit of two trillion dollars, and it looks it's insoluble
Speaker 1: unless there's buy into the idea that we can't live
Speaker 1: like this. We can't live on a credit card. And
Speaker 1: in the next five years we're going to be close
Speaker 1: to fifty trillion dollars in deficits accumulated deficits, which means
Speaker 1: the interest on that will be close to two trillion
Speaker 1: dollars a year, which is unsustainable. And so just describe
Speaker 1: the fyscal health of this nation.
Speaker 8: Yeah, look, I think you've nailed it. In one of
Speaker 8: the things that I want to make sure people are
Speaker 8: realistic about, like God blessed Donald Trump and everything. This
Speaker 8: is administration is trying to do big supporters, but we
Speaker 8: also are realists. We understand that every single administration in
Speaker 8: the history of the United States, that includes Donald Trump,
Speaker 8: Ronald Reagan, and George Washington, with the only exception being
Speaker 8: Calvin Coolidge, every administration has grown the size of the
Speaker 8: scope of the federal government. And so we can't expect Washington,
Speaker 8: d c. To turn this ship around on its own.
Speaker 8: It's also contrary to human nature. It is very difficult
Speaker 8: to cut a dollar from the federal government because there's
Speaker 8: a constituency for every dollar. We're seeing this in just
Speaker 8: this absolute blowout from the deep state right now fighting
Speaker 8: back against Donald Trump. If we're going to do it,
Speaker 8: we're going to have to do it. They're not going
Speaker 8: to do it for us. And we can do this
Speaker 8: through a convention of States. And by the way, if
Speaker 8: you if you tell folks who are in Congress, but
Speaker 8: now you have a constitutional obligation to balance the budget,
Speaker 8: you can't do it by raising taxes or fees, then
Speaker 8: they're going to do it, and they can tell they're
Speaker 8: consituency with choice.
Speaker 1: As far as the unfinited liabilities which are promised is
Speaker 1: made by the government in the future, that number is
Speaker 1: north of one hundred trillion dollars. I look at some
Speaker 1: of the staggering numbers, and your eyes glaze over that.
Speaker 1: I think many Americans are mathematically challenged, and that a
Speaker 1: trillion dollars used to be a huge amount of money,
Speaker 1: and now it's become almost irrelevant. A billionaire and a
Speaker 1: billionaire doesn't matter. And our debt is funded by one
Speaker 1: of three reasons. One would be by grossly increasing taxes,
Speaker 1: which American people don't want. That two is to grossly
Speaker 1: cut federal spending and a lot of Americans don't like that,
Speaker 1: but I do. And the third reason is to print
Speaker 1: more money. Why is each of those three undesirable?
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, first of all, taxes, we are already
Speaker 8: heavily burdened on taxes, especially the most productive people in
Speaker 8: the country. And when you tax, and especially when you
Speaker 8: tax income, you get less of whatever.
Speaker 3: It is you tax.
Speaker 8: In other words, if you tax people's incomes and tax
Speaker 8: it more and more heavily, you're going to get less
Speaker 8: and less income. That's just the nature of taxation, and
Speaker 8: we can only tax so much. In fact, if you
Speaker 8: were to not just tax, but seize the wealth of
Speaker 8: the richest one percent in America, it might, though I'm
Speaker 8: not quite sure, cover our deficit for a single year.
Speaker 8: And so there just isn't enough money in the country
Speaker 8: to tax our way out of it. So that's a
Speaker 8: really important thing for people to understand that we get
Speaker 8: the thing of sort of eat the rich and tax
Speaker 8: the rich into the ground. Well, it's not going to
Speaker 8: solve our fiscal wlows. When we talk about unfunded liabilities.
Speaker 8: I think this is the giant elephant in the room
Speaker 8: that most people don't talk about. There is so much
Speaker 8: money that we've committed to and it is unsustainable, and
Speaker 8: there are, by the way, relatively simple fixes for this.
Speaker 8: We could push back the retirement age a few years.
Speaker 8: You know, when we set the retirement age, it was
Speaker 8: believed that the life expectancy in the United States of
Speaker 8: America was roughly sixty two to sixty five years, meaning
Speaker 8: most people would not collect Social Security for a very
Speaker 8: long time. Now for als around eighty one years. So
Speaker 8: we've extended this out and we have less people paying
Speaker 8: the system. Mas is maths that's just unsustainable over the
Speaker 8: long haul.
Speaker 1: Another issue, of course, is term limits. We have it
Speaker 1: for the president. It would have been wise in the
Speaker 1: nineteen fifties to include the Congress. There's been proposals in
Speaker 1: the past for the Congress to cut off their own
Speaker 1: lifeline of money. It's amazing that Nancy Pelosi or Mitch
Speaker 1: McConnell can go into Congress worth nothing, they come out
Speaker 1: worth five hundred million dollars. It's incredible to watch that.
Speaker 1: And they do it because it favors being handed thither
Speaker 1: and fro. And so the Congress itself, Democrat or Republican,
Speaker 1: they never will vote to term limit themselves because that's
Speaker 1: the source of their money in the court, the source
Speaker 1: of the funding of their life. And am I correct
Speaker 1: to say Mark Meckler that there have been numerous attempts
Speaker 1: by generally conservative Republicans to limit the term limits, to
Speaker 1: make it a years or twelve years, just pick some number.
Speaker 1: But the Congress themselves will never do this by themselves.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's absolutely correct. In fact, right now, I would
Speaker 8: say the biggest champion of term limits in the United
Speaker 8: States government is Ted Cruz from my home state of Texas.
Speaker 8: He proposes the term moments. Still every year it never
Speaker 8: even gets a hearing, let alone getting voted on. It
Speaker 8: never makes it through committee. It never makes it to committee,
Speaker 8: and I would argue it never will and it never
Speaker 8: will because Republican or Democrat, most legislators are not willing
Speaker 8: to limit their own terms. That's human nature again, So
Speaker 8: if we want that done, we're going to have to
Speaker 8: impose this discipline bill. I like to use the example of,
Speaker 8: you know, if you've ever raised teenagers, the idea that
Speaker 8: you would let your teenagers decide how much money the
Speaker 8: household spends, how much money they get to spend of
Speaker 8: your money, whether they can drink alcohol one year away,
Speaker 8: how long they can take your car and stay out
Speaker 8: all the rules for themselves. There's not going to be
Speaker 8: very many rules, and it's going to be a disaster.
Speaker 8: There's going to be chaos. We the American people, are
Speaker 8: the parents. We're in charge of our government. We're supposed
Speaker 8: to be sovereign. Unless we impose these controls on Congress
Speaker 8: and the President and our government, generally, the government's going
Speaker 8: to be out of control.
Speaker 1: I just got a text from the story and it
Speaker 1: told me that there was an effort. When FDR went
Speaker 1: out of office and he was in office elected four times,
Speaker 1: Democrats and Republicans said enough is enough, and they tried
Speaker 1: like crazy to include the Congress in that amendment to
Speaker 1: the Constitution, and the Congress itself would not vote it.
Speaker 1: It takes two thirds of the House, two thirds of
Speaker 1: the Senate, three fourths of the States, and the Congress
Speaker 1: itself would not vote to post the same rules on
Speaker 1: them they imposed upon the presidency. And I'm confident that
Speaker 1: if Barack Hussein Obama was to had the ability to
Speaker 1: run for a third or fourth term, he would have
Speaker 1: done it. Of course, when Biden was in office, that
Speaker 1: was Obama's third term, nonetheless, but it would go on
Speaker 1: forever and never stop. The insdom and keeping it to
Speaker 1: eight years and there's great wisdom and keeping it to
Speaker 1: twelve years at the maximum, maybe eight years when it
Speaker 1: comes to the Congress. Lastly, the bureaucracy itself is so
Speaker 1: called fourth estate. They're not dependent upon Republican Democrats that
Speaker 1: are there forever. And as I understand that your proposal
Speaker 1: Convention of the States would include that the bureaucracy itself,
Speaker 1: the agencies that essentially run the government.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's important. I call this the fauci
Speaker 8: of them, and nobody should ever sit in a position
Speaker 8: of power like that for forty years in the federal government,
Speaker 8: completely unaccountable to the American people, unaccountable frankly even to
Speaker 8: Congress or the President. I see a lot of this
Speaker 8: in Washington, DC right now. We're seeing this deep state
Speaker 8: raise its ugly head. It's been around forever, it's going
Speaker 8: to continue to be around. And if we were to
Speaker 8: der term moments on Congress and not term moments on
Speaker 8: the bureaucracy, I think that would make things much worse.
Speaker 1: In fact, they'd be more powerful now. The leaking out
Speaker 1: of the Department of Defense, the chief of Staff, others
Speaker 1: being fired because they're leaking constantly to the New York Times,
Speaker 1: et cetera. And it's constant leaking. And if these individuals
Speaker 1: understand that I'm here for eight to twelve years and
Speaker 1: I'm going to lose my power over the economy, over
Speaker 1: the environment, over the tax system after eight to twelve
Speaker 1: years and have to go back into the fields and work,
Speaker 1: it would change their attitude completely. So I think it's
Speaker 1: wise to say you've got to include the fourth estate.
Speaker 1: Those working in the bureaucracy. Without that, they would have
Speaker 1: more power.
Speaker 8: Correct, Yeah, they would have more power. Bill I would
Speaker 8: add in one more and this is immensely popular with
Speaker 8: the American people. If you collect a paycheck from the
Speaker 8: federal government in any department, in any capacity, collected, appointed,
Speaker 8: or just as a job, then you should be prohibited
Speaker 8: forever from lobbying the federal government in any way.
Speaker 1: What about the federal judiciary, what about judges that we
Speaker 1: need thirty to forty hours.
Speaker 8: Yeah, we need term moments there to look at the
Speaker 8: time of the founding when we said that they have
Speaker 8: life terms, that term was never used. It doesn't say
Speaker 8: life terms. Everybody thinks it's for life. It says on
Speaker 8: good behavior. And back then, by the way, it was
Speaker 8: considered poor behavior. If he's floor in public, that would
Speaker 8: literally be enough to cause you to be removed from
Speaker 8: the bench. We never expected people to sit on bench
Speaker 8: thirty forty years. When that started. Average life expectancy for
Speaker 8: a male with fifty four years of age, average appointment
Speaker 8: age was forty eight, and so we expected five or
Speaker 8: six years on the bench. I think we definitely need
Speaker 8: term limits for the federal bench.
Speaker 1: Otherwise they could not have anticipated in seventeen eighty seven
Speaker 1: that you're going to have judges on the bench into
Speaker 1: their eighties and beyond. And it's thinking. They never conceived that.
Speaker 8: No very few people lived that old back then, so
Speaker 8: they never conceived of that. They never conceived that anybody
Speaker 8: would want to do that. And so there are certain
Speaker 8: things that the Framers just didn't foresee because the future changed,
Speaker 8: life's expectancy changed, They could not have known these things.
Speaker 8: So we also, by the way, if you look at
Speaker 8: every study that's ever been done in the federal judicial,
Speaker 8: it says that federal judges become more amenable to a
Speaker 8: large administrative state the longer they're on the bench. Again,
Speaker 8: human nature, they are part of that apparatus. Their offices
Speaker 8: are funded by the federal government, their staffs are funded
Speaker 8: by the federal government, so of course they become more
Speaker 8: and more friendly to the federal government over time.
Speaker 1: Generally speaking, Mark Meckler, how can the average American get involved?
Speaker 1: What is your website of any Yeah.
Speaker 8: Convention of State dot com. Sign the petition, click the
Speaker 8: take action tab, and you can follow me on x
Speaker 8: at Mark Meckler.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's the website. But nineteen States have approved that
Speaker 1: Ohio is ready to go. If a veg Ramaswami or
Speaker 1: David Yost, either one becomes the governor, both favorite convention
Speaker 1: in the States, et cetera. It's going to happen, and
Speaker 1: it's getting closer. And all I can say is good luck.
Speaker 1: I have hope for Donald Trump to do it, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. It takes the people to arise. Mark Meckler,
Speaker 1: once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Bill, God bless bless America. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Mark Mackler. Right there, it is how you could take
Speaker 1: governance in your own hands and do what's correct for
Speaker 1: the American people. We can't live like this. We can't
Speaker 1: live on a credit card. Republican and Democrats, We've been
Speaker 1: living on too many credit cards, and it's got to stop.
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham with you every afternoon on news radio seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLWS. President, what do you say, people who knew
Speaker 1: that luxury jet as a personal gift to you, why
Speaker 1: not leave it by ABC? Fath news?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Why not only only ABC?
Speaker 9: Well, a few of you would, let me tell you,
Speaker 9: you should be embarrassed asking that question. They're giving us
Speaker 9: a free jet. I could say no, no, no, don't
Speaker 9: give us. I want to pay you a million or
Speaker 9: four hundred million or whatever it is. Well I can
Speaker 9: say thank you very much. You know, there was an
Speaker 9: old golfer named Sam Snee. Did you ever hear you
Speaker 9: want adg at tournament? Who was a great golfer, and
Speaker 9: he had a motto. When they give you a putt,
Speaker 9: you say thank you very much, You pick up your
Speaker 9: ball and you walk to the next doll. A lot
Speaker 9: of people are stupid. They say no, no, I insist,
Speaker 9: start putting it, and then they put it, they miss it,
Speaker 9: and their partner gets angry at them. You know what,
Speaker 9: remember that Sam Steve. When they give you a putt,
Speaker 9: you pick it up and you walk to the next
Speaker 9: hole and you say thank you very much.
Speaker 2: What he Hello, Piet and I'm broadcasting.
Speaker 8: Rock.
Speaker 1: We have many issues and that what happens at the
Speaker 1: friendly confines. They give me the putt, put it in
Speaker 1: your pocket and walk off your your golfing buddies, do
Speaker 1: you give each other putts or you make them earn it.
Speaker 1: You got to be able to pull something out and
Speaker 1: if it's smaller than that, you can have the putt
Speaker 1: so all I can tell you like a six hawk
Speaker 1: one right there. Anyway, talk about that, A wise man said,
Speaker 1: didn't the Nation of France give us the Statue of Liberty? Yes,
Speaker 1: we paciously accepted it. Now Trump is not getting the jet.
Speaker 1: It's going to the Department of Defense. Then it's going
Speaker 1: to the Library of Congress that runs the Presidential library.
Speaker 10: And in the meantime, we're going to use it because
Speaker 10: Billying has a lot of difficulties right now. In his
Speaker 10: first administration, Trump, you know, put in an order for
Speaker 10: a new air force once because it's like forty seven
Speaker 10: plus years old and kind of important. Well, but once
Speaker 10: again Trump has taken an issue that ninety percent agree
Speaker 10: with it. Should you accept the use of a half
Speaker 10: a billion? Yes, and turn it around and force the
Speaker 10: Democrats to to be stupid, to be stupid, and Schumer
Speaker 10: is going to come up the works.
Speaker 1: Because of this. And number one, it goes to the
Speaker 1: Department of Stupid, then it goes to the Library of
Speaker 1: Congress that runs the presidential libraries. He never gets He's
Speaker 1: on his own house his plane. By the way, how's
Speaker 1: Trump's playing exact? All the guys have plane plane. He's
Speaker 1: got his own Air Force. He's got his plane air
Speaker 1: Force one. And now this off to the side, he's
Speaker 1: got a brand new seven thirty seven. How dumb does
Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer look when then he come out and say,
Speaker 1: I'm going to kind of slow play, slow play the
Speaker 1: Department of Justice nominations. Yeah, you're gonna have speeches constantly.
Speaker 1: Is that doing the American people? The folks any good? None,
Speaker 1: It's another one that's eighty twenty issue. He's just wonderful too.
Speaker 10: Now the Democrats also against the executive order to slash
Speaker 10: drug prices.
Speaker 1: Yes, why are they going to do nothing? Bernie Sanders
Speaker 1: has said for decades do this. So he was confronted yesterday, Okay,
Speaker 1: we finally have a president going to do it. We
Speaker 1: shouldn't pay the drug prices all around the world by
Speaker 1: us carrying their research. Another issue that ninety five percent.
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders said, well, you know, we have to look
Speaker 1: into it. This is exactly what they want. You give
Speaker 1: them what they want and they say, okay, we don't
Speaker 1: want that. We don't want that. I'm sorry. And by
Speaker 1: the way, Max Montoya is sixty five years old today.
Speaker 1: Wasn't his number sixty five? Max Montoya? Yes, yeah, also
Speaker 1: a great man. And also his daughter does a great
Speaker 1: job in TV. And also Jose blaming on Rehope stud
Speaker 1: Berg is today.
Speaker 10: He thinks his birthday today, right, I can't.
Speaker 1: He was born May thirteenth, nineteen sixty five, does not
Speaker 1: make him sixty years old. That is sad. And Jose
Speaker 1: Rio is sixty. That's old, isn't it. Ace in the
Speaker 1: ninety ninety World Series Championship team twenty five years old.
Speaker 1: And by the way, if that team had won the
Speaker 1: fourth game two to one, they had nobody left. Hatcher
Speaker 1: wasn't going to play. Eric Davis is done. Rio said,
Speaker 1: I'm done and play The Nasty Boys all had arm problems.
Speaker 1: They're done. Barry Larkin said, we were in trouble if
Speaker 1: we had to play another game. I did us a
Speaker 1: solid one. Anytime we'll use another one here, even a
Speaker 1: small one. Tell locally, we'll take it. Don't take a
Speaker 1: gift like that, like the statue of Liberty. By the way,
Speaker 1: I got a note here from Joe Dieters is from
Speaker 1: Joe Deaters that his brother, the Buzzard, is sixty six
Speaker 1: years old today. A buzzard, how about that? Buzzer's pretty
Speaker 1: good man. Wow, Max Montoya sixty five buzz Luke buzz
Speaker 1: beaters and six Jose Rio sixty What a trio your youth?
Speaker 1: When Jose Rio is sixty years old, should we call
Speaker 1: him a sing happy birthday? I'm afraid to that's true.
Speaker 1: That's good, points good, yes, all right, give me. I
Speaker 1: have another question for the wild Man. Are you done
Speaker 1: with these jet because Rocky knows the answer to these
Speaker 1: and I'll give a shot. Give it a shot. Here
Speaker 1: we go segment. Here's the question for the wild Man.
Speaker 1: Does he have a media pass? By the way, no,
Speaker 1: you don't have me all right. As you may know,
Speaker 1: the Chicago Cubs Pete Rose was batting. He had forty
Speaker 1: one one, and at some point the answer was take
Speaker 1: him out of the lineup because I wanted to get
Speaker 1: forty one two in Wrigley Field. I get him out down,
Speaker 1: get him out, he goes. That would be a disaster. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I have this note here from your buddy the
Speaker 1: wild Man, who says the following, I see if you
Speaker 1: see can get him to answer this question. I bet
Speaker 1: Rocky has no clue about the answer to this question.
Speaker 1: I said, okay, what it was?
Speaker 2: Here?
Speaker 1: It is one last question to give to that lame
Speaker 1: ass segment and Rocky boyman, my buddy, my buddy, wild man,
Speaker 1: what the Cubs pitcher did Pete Rose collect hit number
Speaker 1: forty one ninety one A regularly feel to tie Ty
Speaker 1: Cobbs record. Do not give numb nuts any hints he's
Speaker 1: referring to you. I think I know, I think I
Speaker 1: don't know who was on the Patterson right, yeah, person,
Speaker 1: Reggie Patterson. I'm a West Sider. I know these. You
Speaker 1: wouldn't know that when I was just about to say that.
Speaker 1: But according to the wild Man in the Elias Sports
Speaker 1: for your Hope, actually that's not the record. After a
Speaker 1: full investigation and all the hits of Ty Cobb, he
Speaker 1: only had forty one eighty nine, didn't have forty one
Speaker 1: ninety one and forty one eight.
Speaker 10: You go back and watch the video, Yes, watch the
Speaker 10: video of Tyke black and White videote those records.
Speaker 1: Who knows who kept those records? Of course, but you
Speaker 1: up that's Joe Biden bother. Well, I'll give you no okay,
Speaker 1: I'll give you one he gave earlier. This is pretty good.
Speaker 1: When Pete Rose got forty one ninety two at Riverfront
Speaker 1: Eric Show everyone. Everyone knows that. And he hit at
Speaker 1: the left field, Get down, get down, get down the call?
Speaker 1: But who was the catcher who was catching at that point?
Speaker 1: Who later, I give you a hint, became a pretty
Speaker 1: damn good manager. But he was behind the plate, uh,
Speaker 1: Padres for the Padres and Eric show was on the
Speaker 1: mountain Bruce poaching.
Speaker 8: Damn.
Speaker 1: That's pretty well about that, right, rock Rock knowses Pete
Speaker 1: Rose stuff for tomorrow. Boy, he's been he's been studying
Speaker 1: the hit king, pretty good stuff.
Speaker 10: Maybe the wild Man can give you more questions tomorrow
Speaker 10: because he is going to appear on the Eddie, Rocky
Speaker 10: and Mo Show at the Holy Grail?
Speaker 1: Boy, where's sank? Where's feet? His face somewhere? Where's sek
Speaker 1: four thirty? Can't wait?
Speaker 4: Can't you.
Speaker 1: Don't big time him now?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 1: Don't big time rock? You know not now? Lastly, before
Speaker 1: we go to the segment, we've already had sports in
Speaker 1: the bottom of the higher newscats. But that's a different story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but we have more about Jordan Hudson. Yes, huh. There
Speaker 1: was a transgender man slash woman who appeared with her
Speaker 1: for the Miss Main competition and Jordan struck up a
Speaker 1: friendship with the transgender about media coverage, and according to
Speaker 1: this transgender woman who's now a woman, she looked pretty good,
Speaker 1: by the way, look very attractive.
Speaker 3: I can't say that.
Speaker 1: I can't say that, but she looked hot as a cucomer.
Speaker 1: But nonetheless cucombers aren't too hot. But nonetheless, according to
Speaker 1: Jordan Hudson, that she related how much she's in love
Speaker 1: with Bill Belichick, she's found her soulmate, and that those
Speaker 1: two at some point are going to tie the knot.
Speaker 3: Don't care? Does he?
Speaker 1: Does he child? That CONTROVERSI baby carriage and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe that how about that wedding.
Speaker 10: The big controversy now is if do you recall when
Speaker 10: the Daily Mail released the video the ring doorbell cam
Speaker 10: video of Bill Belichick outside like kind of doing the
Speaker 10: walker shame thing. Yes, apparently that was Jordan Hudson's home.
Speaker 10: The question is how did that video get released? If
Speaker 10: his security your security camera, I would think the only
Speaker 10: one that has access to that is the person's whose
Speaker 10: house is.
Speaker 1: And this sort nuts it. So a lot of the
Speaker 1: things you can go, I mean, is she blackmailing him?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: Does she have more videos? More door careleaders? They listen,
Speaker 1: you're gonna keep me along for the ride. Here he
Speaker 1: did videos freak offs? What about freak an issue? That's
Speaker 1: another issue. Now we're talking about serious man with the coach.
Speaker 1: I can't say he's going to he's going to coach
Speaker 1: for North He absolutely has. If he wins, no one
Speaker 1: will care. What if then everybody's gonna care? Then what
Speaker 1: what about Trey Hendrickson? Does he care?
Speaker 10: He says he won't play a game for the Bengals
Speaker 10: unless he gets a new contract.
Speaker 3: Did he not?
Speaker 1: Can't say, give me some sports, can't say.
Speaker 7: Will heave the student reporters of proud service of your
Speaker 7: local Tame Star heating in their conditioning dealers Tamestar quality
Speaker 7: you can feel in Northern Kentucky cal Johnson Heating and
Speaker 7: cooling at eight five nine four seven to two sixty
Speaker 7: fifty one. Can't st That's it, Trey Hendrickson said today.
Speaker 8: That's it.
Speaker 1: He showed up at the Bengals voluntary workout not good
Speaker 1: in street close. He will not play for the Bengals
Speaker 1: under his current contract, in apparent escalation of his dispute
Speaker 1: with the team. Remember when Carson Palmer tried that, Yeah
Speaker 1: got a hard work. Actually he didn't play, but you're
Speaker 1: certainly not going to sit on her hands. He felt
Speaker 1: prompted to dress the media after Zach Taylor communicated to
Speaker 1: him via text text that he would be fined if
Speaker 1: he doesn't attend the team's three day mandatory mini camp,
Speaker 1: which isn't scheduled until June to tenth. What happens to
Speaker 1: this rock? The communications you have, you can talk to
Speaker 1: people anytime anywhere there you go.
Speaker 10: Well, so Zach Taylor got to hold a tree Hendrick
Speaker 10: and said, look, I know this front office. I know
Speaker 10: these people. They ain't been in the ain't budget. I'd
Speaker 10: be better get over here, Mike. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 10: better get over here. The long history of staying true.
Speaker 1: To You're thirty one. What's he gonna make like fifteen mil?
Speaker 1: And he wants like twenty five mil. Well, the reports
Speaker 1: are they're gonna pay more than that amount.
Speaker 10: But then his amount changed after all the other you know,
Speaker 10: Miles Garrett, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Goal, he's got these huge deals. Well, well now I want.
Speaker 10: Something in line with the new top defensive line payment.
Speaker 1: And why do you sign the contract? Then he said
Speaker 1: to earn fifteen point eight million in base salary this season.
Speaker 10: Your reaction rock, he's gonna I got a question, and
Speaker 10: I got that question. So so Trey Hendrickson, when deer
Speaker 10: Park needed money, he stepped up and held for deer Park.
Speaker 10: We're now Trey Henderson needs money. How come deer Park
Speaker 10: and you, sir, don't step up and give him the
Speaker 10: money he deserves.
Speaker 1: Tit for tat any more? Sports sake? Answer the question?
Speaker 1: What is the question? The question? Yes, he was there
Speaker 1: when you needed him. Yeah, you got the favorite thousand
Speaker 1: dollars for the sports teams. You've got to give him something.
Speaker 1: Go fund Meg. But a guy, I assume he's got
Speaker 1: a hundred minute how much he's made so far, like
Speaker 1: fifty million, sixty million, like that?
Speaker 4: Like No.
Speaker 10: Now, the one that really needs to be there is
Speaker 10: schmar Stewart because he is a project.
Speaker 1: He is a guy with all.
Speaker 10: The measurables, but for whatever reason in his career, is
Speaker 10: not but now to turn that into production. So he
Speaker 10: needs to be in the camp, learning the techniques, learning
Speaker 10: the defense, learning the scheme so he can take all
Speaker 10: the talent and turn it into production. But he's not
Speaker 10: there because of whatever reason. With the contest good money,
Speaker 10: some sort of guarantee or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know. We're in a crisis right now. Answer,
Speaker 1: I love it. I love crisis segment Give me out
Speaker 1: in the Stooge Report, Please will you?
Speaker 7: And of the Reds and White Sox tonight in Game one,
Speaker 7: Trey Hendrickson and more, gonna play, not going to play.
Speaker 7: We leave you with the immortal words of the Stooge Report.
Speaker 6: You never admit you're in a swamp. Whenever let a
Speaker 6: picture tell you if you're in a swamp. Number I
Speaker 6: would tell people, do you do one of six things
Speaker 6: when you get into a wall?
Speaker 1: They are okay, all right?
Speaker 6: Closer to the plate for the way from the plate,
Speaker 6: up in the box, back in the box, choke up
Speaker 6: in the bat more, choke down the bat more, make
Speaker 6: it heavier, make it lighter. Never change your swing. Sounds
Speaker 6: like a swing got you into the big leags.
Speaker 1: Sounds like a P Diddy makes perfect sense. Freak party there,
Speaker 1: p Diddy. I don't know. We all got problems. That's
Speaker 1: how you handle them. Correct segment. Thank you very much, Yes, sir, Rocky,
Speaker 1: thank thank you. Let's continue with more. Wild Man has
Speaker 1: more questions for the segment on news Radio seven hundred
Speaker 1: all were you