WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:07.799 You're listening to KFI on demand. Dean, Welcome to the 2 00:00:07.879 --> 00:00:08.919 Jesus Christio. 3 00:00:10.359 --> 00:00:12.279 Jesus, Just Dean. 4 00:00:13.240 --> 00:00:16.920 In my search for the truth, I want to know 5 00:00:16.960 --> 00:00:22.239 where if you know, God so loved man, and I 6 00:00:22.280 --> 00:00:27.760 am a believer. But how come he created so many 7 00:00:27.800 --> 00:00:31.839 things animals and dinosaurs and things like that for millions 8 00:00:31.839 --> 00:00:38.359 of gazillions a year before man even shows up on Earth? 9 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:43.759 And two, how do Adam and Eve fit in? As 10 00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:47.399 you know, we have found fossils and remains of like 11 00:00:48.399 --> 00:00:54.439 cavemen Neanderthals that weren't even walking upright and then they were. 12 00:00:56.399 --> 00:00:58.439 How does that work? How does that fit in. 13 00:00:59.200 --> 00:01:01.600 With the local scripture? 14 00:01:01.920 --> 00:01:06.239 Well, a lot of the dinosaur stuff will focus on 15 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:08.760 in just a second, But as far as Neanderthals go, 16 00:01:09.640 --> 00:01:14.879 there there's a lot of misconception and misunderstanding about Neanderthals 17 00:01:14.920 --> 00:01:18.879 and what they were. And there's a lot of fabrications 18 00:01:18.920 --> 00:01:21.319 and garbage that came out that people still think like 19 00:01:21.400 --> 00:01:25.719 Lucy or Piltdown Man, Java Man, Nebraska Man, all these 20 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:32.200 that we have been proven to either be hoaxes, misidentified whatever. 21 00:01:32.799 --> 00:01:34.959 So there's a lot of garbage out there that people 22 00:01:35.000 --> 00:01:41.319 still kind of, you know, hold on to thinking that 23 00:01:41.319 --> 00:01:44.159 that they have all these missing links and evidence. Well, 24 00:01:44.159 --> 00:01:46.120 the reason why they refer to them as missing links 25 00:01:46.239 --> 00:01:49.400 is because they don't have them. They have pieces of things, 26 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:53.480 and they have bone structures that are in every way, 27 00:01:53.519 --> 00:01:57.560 shape or form. They might be slightly different looking, but 28 00:01:57.599 --> 00:02:01.480 there has been no discovery of any of these so 29 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:08.280 called Neanderthals that where their anatomy, when looked at, honestly 30 00:02:08.840 --> 00:02:13.599 comes to any conclusion that states that the motion, the 31 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:19.840 type of manipulation, the intellectual capacity, the capacity for language, 32 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:23.240 or any of these things were inferior to human beings 33 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:27.680 as you know them today. There's even you can find 34 00:02:27.719 --> 00:02:31.919 stories about scientists going back and forth about the size 35 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:37.280 of the nose of Neanderthals because they look large, and 36 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:40.800 yet it would have been much colder than by their calculations, 37 00:02:41.159 --> 00:02:43.560 and it doesn't make sense to have large noses and 38 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:46.120 the cold and all these different things. They're still battling 39 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:49.520 as to what these things mean, but ultimately you can 40 00:02:49.560 --> 00:02:55.159 find people even today with similar bone structures as those 41 00:02:55.199 --> 00:02:58.919 of these so called Neanderthals. So really there's a lot 42 00:02:58.919 --> 00:03:02.000 more to it than just how fits in scripture. There's 43 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:04.479 a lot of questions as to how it fits into science, 44 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:08.520 and since it's a forensic science and what they're doing 45 00:03:09.680 --> 00:03:12.479 with the data at hand and how they're interpreting it, 46 00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:15.080 it's very easy, Dean for someone to go and look 47 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:17.520 at scripture and dismiss it and say, well, that's left 48 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:20.719 up to interpretation. But a good scientist will tell you 49 00:03:20.800 --> 00:03:23.520 that by the very nature of observational science, which is 50 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:27.680 what science is, it's observing what's there or what has 51 00:03:27.759 --> 00:03:30.039 happened in the past and concluding that it will happen 52 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:34.039 again that way or that slight variations will be made 53 00:03:34.080 --> 00:03:38.439 depending on different interactions. That when it comes to a 54 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:41.199 past singular event or something that took place that won't 55 00:03:41.240 --> 00:03:45.120 take place again, just like a murder or a crime scene, 56 00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:48.120 that they have to trace back in reverse and try 57 00:03:48.120 --> 00:03:51.000 and understand the information in reverse. And when it comes 58 00:03:51.039 --> 00:03:56.039 to things like the Neanderthal, there's a mess of speculation 59 00:03:56.599 --> 00:03:58.599 and doesn't mean there aren't bones, and it doesn't mean 60 00:03:58.639 --> 00:04:02.400 there aren't bones that worth that are you know, worth 61 00:04:03.680 --> 00:04:06.560 studying and looking into. But imagine this. If you were 62 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:10.000 to find certain types of bones, let's say bones from 63 00:04:10.039 --> 00:04:13.080 the elephant man or something like that, and you were 64 00:04:13.120 --> 00:04:16.160 to assume that that was the entirety of that race 65 00:04:16.279 --> 00:04:20.560 or that people it would be a false assumption. And 66 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:24.079 to say that they've found bones and this has to 67 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:27.399 be Man because of X, Y, and Z is not 68 00:04:27.439 --> 00:04:32.639 necessarily a fair statement as well. And there's much more 69 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:34.240 to it than that. I just think that there's a 70 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:39.160 lot that gets kind of assumed in these questions and 71 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:45.319 people don't question it because it has a scientific bent 72 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:48.000 to it. So people feel like you're going to look 73 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:51.879 like the stupid Christian who is questioning science and all 74 00:04:51.920 --> 00:04:54.439 of those things, and that's just it's not fair. There 75 00:04:54.480 --> 00:05:00.240 are many things in science that change often. Evolution is 76 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:06.360 one of them that changes often because there's no definitive 77 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:10.600 answer and there's constant new information coming in that makes 78 00:05:10.600 --> 00:05:13.079 them go, Okay, this was wrong. Just like many of 79 00:05:13.120 --> 00:05:17.519 those original finds that I mentioned. When it comes to 80 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:20.279 a lot of those original finds, Puilt Down Man, Lucy 81 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:24.079 Java Man, Nebraska Man, these types of things, it took 82 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:25.639 a while for it to come out that many of 83 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:29.439 them were hoaxes, or they were this one skull cap 84 00:05:29.839 --> 00:05:33.600 mixed with a different jaw, and sure, you combine these 85 00:05:33.639 --> 00:05:37.800 together and you have problems. Just like the Bronosaurus, which 86 00:05:37.800 --> 00:05:41.839 doesn't exist anymore because it was science putting the wrong 87 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:45.560 head on the wrong body. And so those things happen, 88 00:05:45.759 --> 00:05:49.160 and it doesn't mean you should throw science out. Science 89 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:53.439 is not the enemy of faith in any way, shape 90 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:57.480 or form. But it's to understand them in their context. Now, 91 00:05:57.560 --> 00:05:59.680 how do they play a part in scripture? Well, first, 92 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:02.360 I would argue that the Neanderthal didn't exist in the 93 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:06.040 sense that modern day science continues to say that it did, 94 00:06:07.439 --> 00:06:09.560 and that there's no evidence for it to exist in 95 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:13.399 that way. The cave dwelling in the same way, did 96 00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:16.759 humans live in caves? Absolutely, You can go to Israel 97 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:20.680 today and see caves. I was born in one, essentially. 98 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:26.160 So there are those that confused the concept of that 99 00:06:26.199 --> 00:06:29.319 type of cave dwelling and they say, well, what about 100 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:33.920 the paintings on walls, Well, there's painting on walls today. 101 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:40.399 It's really looking into that attitude. There's this sense of 102 00:06:40.439 --> 00:06:43.720 attitude this comes along with evolution and the concept of 103 00:06:43.720 --> 00:06:47.480 evolution that you are better than people that came prior. 104 00:06:49.160 --> 00:06:53.560 There's a strange form of arrogance that comes with looking 105 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:56.600 at the pyramids and some of the ancient discoveries and 106 00:06:56.759 --> 00:06:59.120 modern man continues, go, they couldn't have done it. They 107 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:01.920 just couldn't have done it because obviously they were dumber 108 00:07:01.959 --> 00:07:06.040 than us and didn't have microchips and didn't have the 109 00:07:06.079 --> 00:07:10.600 proper leveraging systems and all. But says who, Now, of 110 00:07:10.600 --> 00:07:13.279 course they didn't have microchips. But to say that they 111 00:07:13.279 --> 00:07:18.399 were just because they were technologically simpler, that they weren't 112 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:21.720 as equally as intelligent or couldn't come up with ways 113 00:07:21.720 --> 00:07:24.160 to do it would be wrong, because they did come 114 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:27.519 up with ways to do it. So so amazing are 115 00:07:27.519 --> 00:07:30.920 the ways that they did that people continue to this 116 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:34.680 day try and say, well, it was flying saucers and 117 00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:39.000 spacemen and all these things. Anyways, So having said that, 118 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:41.759 I will tell you that there are different arguments by 119 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:48.240 different people, theologians and like that, as to whether dinosaurs 120 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:51.279 are mentioned in scripture. Some feel that in Job forty 121 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:54.519 and forty one dinosaurs are mentioned by way of the 122 00:07:54.600 --> 00:08:01.040 Leafayatin and the Bohemoit. So it is on your interpretation 123 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:04.839 and understanding of those context. There's nothing wrong to say 124 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:09.519 that if Job isn't speaking about dinosaurs, that they played 125 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:14.639 a part of some purpose that wasn't a wasn't necessarily 126 00:08:14.680 --> 00:08:18.639 known or isn't known today, so it doesn't play a 127 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:21.600 part in the narrative of scripture because it's not important 128 00:08:21.639 --> 00:08:25.160 to the narrative of scripture, just like every single person 129 00:08:25.680 --> 00:08:32.039 isn't important in the narrative. Scripture talks about certain people 130 00:08:32.120 --> 00:08:36.919 because they help understand and paint the lineage of humankind 131 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:40.600 and help teach principles that God wants to teach, but 132 00:08:40.639 --> 00:08:45.919 not everything's in there doesn't specifically talk about everything that 133 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:48.600 was created. It says in scripture that there were creatures created, 134 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:51.799 great and small. There's a lot that can fit in 135 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:58.159 there if you allow it to. Mary Louise, you there. 136 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:01.679 I'm well, I'm glad you turned down that radio and 137 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:03.159 you are present. How can I help you? 138 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:06.039 I didn't have the radio on. Honestly, I think the 139 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:07.639 devil just didn't want me to get a. 140 00:09:07.559 --> 00:09:08.080 Hold of you. 141 00:09:08.200 --> 00:09:12.120 Oh boy, well, we'll just cast him out and continue on. 142 00:09:12.639 --> 00:09:13.360 How can I help you? 143 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:16.200 I'm really curious. I was speaking to someone from a 144 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:20.639 Catholic university and the discussion came up of artificial insemination, 145 00:09:21.440 --> 00:09:23.799 and I was under the impression that that was a 146 00:09:23.840 --> 00:09:26.720 good thing. When somebody wants to have children and they 147 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:30.720 can't have it on their own that to populate the 148 00:09:30.759 --> 00:09:34.159 world with more of us, so to speak. And I 149 00:09:34.320 --> 00:09:36.320 was surprised when she told me it was supposed to 150 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:38.600 be sinful, and I go, WHOA, what do you mean 151 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:42.879 because it's artificial? And I said, well, in a way, 152 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:49.840 didn't Jesus himself get boring because he was artificially insiminated. 153 00:09:49.919 --> 00:09:52.639 I mean, whether it was dumb, my daughter, that's a 154 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:55.679 tiny bit of a stretch, but there is a way. 155 00:09:55.879 --> 00:09:57.799 I think. I think it's good that you're at least 156 00:09:57.799 --> 00:10:00.559 thinking through it and coming up with arguments. Well, this 157 00:10:01.480 --> 00:10:07.799 program doesn't necessarily focus on a particular church's doctrine. We 158 00:10:08.679 --> 00:10:13.320 look at them as a whole, and thankfully we've got 159 00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:16.759 Catholics and Protestants that listen as well as skeptics and 160 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:19.600 atheists and Jews and Muslims and everyone else in between. 161 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:24.360 So but we still focus on what Scripture has to 162 00:10:24.360 --> 00:10:27.639 say and truth. So when it comes to artificial insemination, 163 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:31.240 I think that the Catholic Church has their dogma and 164 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:34.519 you have to also understand that just because someone who 165 00:10:34.559 --> 00:10:37.919 says they're Catholic, or even somebody who's at a Catholic 166 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:41.440 university says that that's wrong doesn't necessarily mean that's where 167 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:44.960 the Catholic Church stands officially. So that's first source you 168 00:10:44.960 --> 00:10:47.279 should go to is find out where the Catholic Church, 169 00:10:47.639 --> 00:10:51.080 if you are Catholic, stands officially. However, I will say 170 00:10:51.080 --> 00:10:55.519 this that if someone tells you because it says artificial 171 00:10:55.600 --> 00:11:00.080 in it, that it's bad is ridiculous. Is really a 172 00:10:59.879 --> 00:11:03.120 silly argument. And I hope they're not drinking any milk 173 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:08.200 or eating any bacon, because most livestock are bread by 174 00:11:08.200 --> 00:11:11.759 way of artificial ascemination, so that it might be artificial 175 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:15.559 meat or artificial milk they're eating or drinking, and that 176 00:11:15.600 --> 00:11:18.840 could be a problem in their view. Now that does 177 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:22.440 that mean that every use of artificial incimination is good? 178 00:11:23.000 --> 00:11:27.960 Certainly not. However, the concept of it being artificial is silly. 179 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:30.679 It just is. It's like saying that God doesn't want 180 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:33.240 you to cross this divide because there's no bridge, and 181 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:35.159 any bridge you make would be a man made bridge, 182 00:11:35.159 --> 00:11:37.919 which would be artificial. It wouldn't be of the mountain itself, 183 00:11:38.240 --> 00:11:42.519 and therefore you shouldn't cross it. And that's just that's 184 00:11:42.559 --> 00:11:46.799 not a fair statement that throws out much of medicine. 185 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:50.279 They should never take any antibiotics or anything like that, 186 00:11:51.840 --> 00:11:54.960 or any synthetic medicines or it just it opens up 187 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:58.000 a whole wealth of problems. It doesn't mean that it 188 00:11:58.039 --> 00:12:00.159 can't be misused. It doesn't mean that there aren't some 189 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:03.240 moral issues if it's applied in certain ways, but as 190 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:06.480 a whole, as a concept or as a need, absolutely not. 191 00:12:06.960 --> 00:12:10.759 There are there are people who want to have children 192 00:12:10.840 --> 00:12:14.200 that have some issues that you know, are married and 193 00:12:14.320 --> 00:12:21.200 they want to have a child, and it can be done. John, 194 00:12:21.279 --> 00:12:22.519 Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. 195 00:12:23.360 --> 00:12:24.759 Good morning, Jesus. 196 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:25.600 Hi John, what's going on? 197 00:12:27.240 --> 00:12:30.039 I wanted to run something by you, Yes, sir. About 198 00:12:30.039 --> 00:12:32.320 twenty five years ago, I was a victim of an 199 00:12:32.360 --> 00:12:35.240 attempted homicide. A guy stole my wallet, ripped me open, 200 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:40.519 Oh good, and I ended up being clinically dead for 201 00:12:40.519 --> 00:12:43.279 a couple of minutes. Soon and I had an out 202 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:46.919 of body experience and in that I met an angel 203 00:12:47.000 --> 00:12:48.679 and I thought, you know, when I saw him, I 204 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:51.080 said you must be Gabriel because he was just like 205 00:12:51.200 --> 00:12:55.440 so glorious and he was like, no, I'm just you know, 206 00:12:55.519 --> 00:12:58.919 you run in the mill angel. Anyways, nicolong story short, 207 00:12:59.799 --> 00:13:02.039 I saw the gates of Heaven, and I saw the 208 00:13:02.080 --> 00:13:06.000 gates of Hell. And then when I came to at 209 00:13:06.080 --> 00:13:08.320 the Marine base because out of the Navy at the time, 210 00:13:08.399 --> 00:13:11.240 the guy tried to stole my wallet or whatever. So 211 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:14.240 for a long time I didn't tell anybody about it 212 00:13:14.279 --> 00:13:16.519 because I thought if I'd say anything to anybody, who 213 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:22.480 would just take out his nuts. Right, And so now 214 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:25.080 about coming up on three years. So as a matter 215 00:13:25.120 --> 00:13:28.440 of fact, kind of ironic, on Easter Sunday, I survived 216 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:31.519 six heart attacks and open heart surgery all on one day. 217 00:13:32.639 --> 00:13:35.679 And I you know, when I got out. 218 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:40.679 Of surgery and survived it and stuff, everybody around me 219 00:13:40.759 --> 00:13:44.480 seemed like I was supposed to be like grateful and happy, 220 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:48.399 you know, after it happened, and that was the total opposite. 221 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:53.720 I was just like, I guess, you know, I just 222 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:57.320 started running, like you know, memory running. You know, I 223 00:13:57.399 --> 00:13:59.399 just wanted to, like, you know, run away from the 224 00:13:59.480 --> 00:14:03.960 situation and everything that's going on. And so now it's 225 00:14:04.039 --> 00:14:06.960 the point where you know, I've got coronary art or disease. 226 00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:08.840 They told me I only got a couple more years 227 00:14:08.840 --> 00:14:12.720 to live, and so I'm sitting here, you know, I've 228 00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:16.399 lost everything. My wife left me over it, and like 229 00:14:16.799 --> 00:14:20.080 I'm living in my truck and I'm just like kind 230 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:22.320 of lost, and I'm kind of like thinking of myself. 231 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:25.159 You know. Well, the first place that I have is 232 00:14:25.200 --> 00:14:27.679 I don't know what the Bible says about if there 233 00:14:27.720 --> 00:14:32.399 are such things as a guardian angel. And the second 234 00:14:32.440 --> 00:14:37.679 thing is I'm like thinking to myself, you know, what 235 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:40.519 do I do in this situation with what time I 236 00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:41.159 got left? 237 00:14:41.279 --> 00:14:41.480 You know? 238 00:14:42.080 --> 00:14:45.600 You know, I'm just kind of like I'm lost. I 239 00:14:45.639 --> 00:14:49.120 don't know, you know what I'm going to do? You 240 00:14:49.200 --> 00:14:51.960 know where I'm going to go? You know, I'm just 241 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:54.360 kind of like the left fields. 242 00:14:54.480 --> 00:14:56.759 You know what day to day, aren't you? John? 243 00:14:57.799 --> 00:14:58.039 Oh? 244 00:14:58.120 --> 00:15:03.960 Yeah, yeah, that's It's obviously the story that you tell 245 00:15:04.039 --> 00:15:07.279 is horrific. I mean, all the accounts of it being 246 00:15:07.399 --> 00:15:13.240 mugged and left for dead, and all the ailments and 247 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:16.639 things that have gone on in your life since sound 248 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:24.759 equally as horrible. You're definitely in a situation that calls 249 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:29.159 for intense and deep faith. Now I will put that 250 00:15:29.960 --> 00:15:34.480 on hold for one second to answer your theology question, 251 00:15:34.720 --> 00:15:37.200 and then we'll go back to it. As far as 252 00:15:38.399 --> 00:15:42.200 angels are concerned, or our guardian angels are concerned. There's 253 00:15:42.320 --> 00:15:46.000 nothing in scripture that says everyone has a guardian angel. However, 254 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:51.879 scripture is clear that that angels do guard over believers 255 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:56.840 most definitely and oversee things in the world in general. 256 00:15:57.519 --> 00:16:01.840 And one verse that is used quite often to talk 257 00:16:01.879 --> 00:16:05.919 about or to point to, guardian angels is Matthew eighteen 258 00:16:06.039 --> 00:16:08.720 ten that says, see that you do not look down 259 00:16:08.759 --> 00:16:11.080 on one of these little ones, for I tell you 260 00:16:11.200 --> 00:16:15.320 that their angel, they are angels in heaven. Always see 261 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:19.399 the face of my Father in heaven. And people go 262 00:16:19.480 --> 00:16:21.679 back and forth as to what little ones is referring to. 263 00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:24.720 People go back and forth on what their angel the 264 00:16:25.519 --> 00:16:33.759 term their angels in heaven, and really most most theologians 265 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:37.559 believe that it's not about having a specific angel. It's 266 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:42.159 about having angels overlook the things that go on around 267 00:16:42.159 --> 00:16:45.840 your life as a whole. So there's nothing you can find. 268 00:16:45.840 --> 00:16:49.519 I know, these concept of guardian angels have become very popular, 269 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:51.240 and there's books about it and all these things, but 270 00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:55.840 really scripture doesn't say much on that concept. It really 271 00:16:55.879 --> 00:16:58.320 is more about that God is in control. Angels are 272 00:16:58.320 --> 00:17:02.039 messengers and God uses them uh as he needs them 273 00:17:02.759 --> 00:17:06.599 between heaven and earth. But as far as what you're 274 00:17:06.640 --> 00:17:09.519 going through, which is what I'm concerned about right this moment, 275 00:17:10.440 --> 00:17:13.279 is all of these things are happening to you, and 276 00:17:13.319 --> 00:17:17.920 you you sound like you're you're incredibly strong under the circumstances. 277 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:21.359 Are you asking me what your next step is or 278 00:17:21.359 --> 00:17:23.359 what you should do with the time that you have left? 279 00:17:24.920 --> 00:17:29.559 Yeah, because I just I I have no doubt that, 280 00:17:29.960 --> 00:17:32.079 I have no doubt that you know that you're looking 281 00:17:32.079 --> 00:17:35.720 for my savior, my Lord and Savior. And the thing is, 282 00:17:36.359 --> 00:17:39.480 I find myself I don't want to. I was brought up, 283 00:17:39.519 --> 00:17:41.640 and I was brought up where you let you actually 284 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:44.319 speak so loud, no one hears you talking. I kind 285 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:46.799 of when I see people, you know, with the you 286 00:17:46.960 --> 00:17:49.640 stick on the corner with the with the signs, and 287 00:17:50.319 --> 00:17:52.960 the guys protesting in front of borts and clinics and 288 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:56.200 stuff like that, or people that go around confessing that 289 00:17:56.279 --> 00:18:00.440 they're they're Christian. To me, just you know, there's a 290 00:18:00.559 --> 00:18:02.440 verse in the bibble and maybe you can correct me 291 00:18:02.440 --> 00:18:04.720 if I'm wronging, so that shall not be a hypocrite 292 00:18:04.720 --> 00:18:06.880 and praise my name in the streets. 293 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:11.519 You know, well, yes, it's speaking about those that would pray. 294 00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:13.640 Part of it ties into what we spoke about earlier 295 00:18:13.680 --> 00:18:17.200 in Matthew that there were those that would pray and 296 00:18:17.279 --> 00:18:19.240 go out in the street to pray and so that 297 00:18:19.279 --> 00:18:24.119 everyone could see them, but they were as hypocrites and 298 00:18:24.240 --> 00:18:27.839 rather than you know, doing it in private and being 299 00:18:27.960 --> 00:18:29.920 you know, spending time with God and knowing that God 300 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:35.319 sees those things. In Matthew six ' two, so I 301 00:18:35.680 --> 00:18:37.839 agree with you that is to live in a way 302 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:40.720 nobe ever goes, oh, that guy's a crazy Christian because 303 00:18:40.720 --> 00:18:44.400 he does good things. And if you live in a 304 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:48.599 way that inspires other people, it makes your life value. 305 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:50.599 You're already ahead of the game, even though that you've 306 00:18:50.759 --> 00:18:53.559 had a rough road. No one's going to deny that, John, 307 00:18:53.680 --> 00:18:55.039 you've had a rough road. 308 00:18:56.000 --> 00:18:58.960 But the thing that I remember distinctly is when I 309 00:18:59.119 --> 00:19:00.720 was at the gates of Hell. And it wasn't until 310 00:19:00.759 --> 00:19:03.279 a couple of years later that I met somebody and 311 00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:08.400 he had this summer in the Bible just describes the 312 00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:12.079 gates at Hell, and its just it was like dead on, 313 00:19:12.599 --> 00:19:15.720 you know. And the one thing I remember was like 314 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:19.119 his iron plaid gates almost and he was like a dead, 315 00:19:20.279 --> 00:19:24.599 dead fig tree. And what was ironic because as I 316 00:19:24.640 --> 00:19:27.000 saw somebody at that gate, and it turned out that 317 00:19:27.119 --> 00:19:29.559 when I came out of the common and went home 318 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:33.720 on a medical league, I found out that this guy 319 00:19:34.400 --> 00:19:37.400 that I grew up with was running from the law 320 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:40.960 and he ended up getting in an accident and he 321 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:45.000 got captiated by a road sciences on the motorcycle. Anyways, 322 00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:47.640 and I'll never forget to look on his face. Its 323 00:19:47.720 --> 00:19:51.720 just like absolute fear. But I remember the one thing 324 00:19:51.759 --> 00:19:56.279 I remember sensing was there was a complete absence of 325 00:19:56.519 --> 00:20:01.720 all hope. And I don't know, I'm just kind. 326 00:20:01.559 --> 00:20:05.519 Of like confused because I know that you know the 327 00:20:05.559 --> 00:20:08.680 type of lifestyle that I live, I think I live. 328 00:20:09.480 --> 00:20:13.720 Maybe you know I crammed in three free lifetimes in 329 00:20:13.720 --> 00:20:14.880 a short time I been here. 330 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:17.839 You know, well the good the good thing, John, I 331 00:20:17.880 --> 00:20:19.839 know that there's a lot of circumstances going on in 332 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:23.359 your life. I know that you're that there's different emotions 333 00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:25.920 that go with the you know what they're telling you, 334 00:20:26.119 --> 00:20:28.759 the length of time you have, all these things, all 335 00:20:28.799 --> 00:20:32.559 the horrific things you've experienced, it doesn't change anything. And 336 00:20:32.599 --> 00:20:35.920 I want to really focus this, uh. And I appreciate 337 00:20:35.960 --> 00:20:37.880 you that that you've been so honest with your call 338 00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:41.839 as well. But I want to bring it back that 339 00:20:42.079 --> 00:20:45.960 nothing changes if you have one hundred years on this planet, 340 00:20:45.960 --> 00:20:50.519 if you have one hundred minutes on this planet, it's 341 00:20:50.559 --> 00:20:54.559 always going to be the same. We've said on the 342 00:20:54.599 --> 00:20:57.799 show over and over again that the the meaning of 343 00:20:57.839 --> 00:21:02.640 life is simply this, to utilize your gifts and abilities 344 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:08.759 along lines of excellence, to the edification of others, to 345 00:21:08.759 --> 00:21:13.240 the edification of yourself, to the glory of God. That 346 00:21:13.359 --> 00:21:20.400 doesn't change at any time for any reason. As ugly 347 00:21:20.440 --> 00:21:22.559 as things may have been for you, John, and the 348 00:21:22.599 --> 00:21:25.400 path that you've been on was a rocky one and 349 00:21:25.519 --> 00:21:32.240 continues to be that you always live by the attitude 350 00:21:32.279 --> 00:21:34.079 that you have. I love that you say that your 351 00:21:34.119 --> 00:21:36.640 action should speak so loudly that people can't even hear 352 00:21:36.680 --> 00:21:40.400 you talking. That if you live in a way that 353 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:43.279 inspires others, that if you live in a way that 354 00:21:43.759 --> 00:21:47.079 shows what you believe rather than just telling somebody what 355 00:21:47.119 --> 00:21:53.559 you believe, then you're doing it right. And that doesn't change. 356 00:21:53.640 --> 00:21:57.160 And it's a sad thought to think that there is 357 00:21:57.839 --> 00:22:01.960 a limit that seems so tangible when it gets down 358 00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:05.559 to years and someone telling you you, oh, you have 359 00:22:05.640 --> 00:22:09.559 this disease, You only have x amount of years to live. 360 00:22:11.559 --> 00:22:12.880 But it doesn't change the game. 361 00:22:13.480 --> 00:22:13.680 I know. 362 00:22:13.759 --> 00:22:16.319 Emotionally, it makes you think, well, what am I doing? 363 00:22:16.319 --> 00:22:18.039 Am I doing the right thing? Am I going through this? 364 00:22:18.079 --> 00:22:21.519 Am I going through that? But ultimately the game doesn't 365 00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:29.759 change at all. And if you think about the things 366 00:22:29.759 --> 00:22:33.400 that you do in life when you're young, one of 367 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:36.200 the biggest problems is that as people get older, they 368 00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:42.759 tend to start changing the game because of fears. Well, 369 00:22:42.799 --> 00:22:44.359 I'm not as young as I used to be, so 370 00:22:44.680 --> 00:22:46.559 I don't want to start over all these things, and 371 00:22:46.640 --> 00:22:51.799 so you end up muting your abilities. The game doesn't 372 00:22:51.839 --> 00:22:55.079 need to change. Doesn't mean that you shouldn't be wise 373 00:22:55.240 --> 00:23:02.160 and think about the time and be prudent. But what 374 00:23:02.200 --> 00:23:04.079 I want from you, John, is the same thing I've 375 00:23:04.079 --> 00:23:08.160 always wanted from you, to serve me to live a 376 00:23:08.200 --> 00:23:13.960 life that is God centered, that glorifies God, that will 377 00:23:14.000 --> 00:23:16.559 teach and inspire others to want to know about God. 378 00:23:17.240 --> 00:23:19.160 And that doesn't change now. As a matter of fact, 379 00:23:19.279 --> 00:23:23.960 you've inspired people just by telling your story. Then there 380 00:23:24.000 --> 00:23:26.400 will be those that roll their eyes about the near 381 00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:28.519 death experience and all those things. And why don't you 382 00:23:28.559 --> 00:23:31.200 talk more about this and talk about this and new people. 383 00:23:31.839 --> 00:23:34.400 I don't want to get into that theology right now. 384 00:23:34.519 --> 00:23:36.559 What I want to do is just talk to you 385 00:23:36.680 --> 00:23:40.400 John and explain that all of those experiences you've been 386 00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:43.119 through in life have brought you to today and made 387 00:23:43.160 --> 00:23:46.200 you who you are. You continue to walk from this 388 00:23:46.319 --> 00:23:50.920 day forward, however, many days that might be glorifying God 389 00:23:51.359 --> 00:23:55.720 in very real and tangible ways that will move, teach 390 00:23:56.079 --> 00:24:04.119 and inspire Rob. Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. 391 00:24:05.279 --> 00:24:11.000 Yeah, say hi, hi, Hi Jesus. I got a I 392 00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:14.359 got an issue with the whole concept of God is good. 393 00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:19.359 I'm gonna I'm gonna talk about the flood first, Okay, 394 00:24:19.759 --> 00:24:23.720 you tried to kill humanity with a flood. And then 395 00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:27.240 Abraham's son what kind of what kind of life did 396 00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:29.920 eleven year old have after his dad tried to stick 397 00:24:29.920 --> 00:24:33.680 a knife in his chest? Angel an angel, stop the 398 00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:37.640 hand before it plunged into his chest. And then Sodom 399 00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:41.160 and Gomorrah. I mean, I just I cannot. I can't 400 00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:46.599 imagine praising a god who who does these horrible evil things. 401 00:24:46.759 --> 00:24:49.319