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Speaker 1: It's time to celebrate the previous team sport known to man,

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where modern day gladiators collide for all the glory on

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the grid. I let's talk some college football, a lot

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Cougar Sports with Ben Crittle.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Cougar Sports here one O three nine

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ninety eight three esp and the fan right off the

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three man we were here. I have Andrew Peterson by

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my side as well a cable excuse me. Caleb Lyons

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got the technical difficulties figured out. Hopefully there's no echo

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anybody's part in the car now. I think everybody's gonna

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be well, so we figured it out. Appreciate our production

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crew getting that worked out for us here ESPN. The

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fan of filling in today. For Ben Crittle, I mean

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he's out taking care of some business. He'll be back

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on Monday. Promise he'll be back. Whether it's a glorious

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weekend or whether it's going to be a heartbreaking weekend.

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A lot of people are predicting glorious weekend for sure,

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that's what I'm predicting as well. Broadcasting from our studios

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here in Salt Lake City. Caleb Liones is down there

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at our bandwellth studios appreciate ap showing up and showing

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college football news. Wanted to discuss all the things related.

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I don't know if you guys saw this but this

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was put out by Yahoo Sports. Want to get your

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thoughts on it. College football targeted rule could be headed

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for overhaul, but it's not going away. This is put

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out by Ross Dellan. During the National Championship game last week,

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one team played the first half without a key defensive player.

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Miami quarterback Xavier Lucas spent the first two quarter sideline

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as part of a targeting foul he committed in the

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second half of the previous game, a semi final one

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over ole miss. The foul cost Miami fifteen yards in penalties,

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as we know, and Lucas was disqualified from the final

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three defensive drives and the drives of the semi final,

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and in a carryover disqualification keptain from playing the first

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half of the biggest game of his career guys, the

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National Championship out against Indiana. Miami head coach Mario Christobal

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described the foul and punishment as unjust. Before I refurther

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into it and we discussed this. I'll start with UAP

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and then we'll go to Caleb. Is it unjust this

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like it's a targeting foul regardless of the game. I

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understand where Mario crystaball is coming from somewhere. The coaches

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might be, hey, it's a national championship, he's got to play.

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But rules are rules, question mark, ap.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. It's hard to say. Okay.

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Speaker 4: As the rule is written, it's very just, and I

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agree with like, you can't just let a player off

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just because it's it's the national champion.

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Speaker 2: Why can't I it's a national championship.

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Speaker 4: Well it was. It was targeting. Let's be real the

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rule itself. I like the way it's improved where you

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don't have to leave the stadium.

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Speaker 3: I would like.

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Speaker 4: To see it reduced even just a little bit more,

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and that I don't think. I don't think it should

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carry over to another game, unless.

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Speaker 2: So if it happens in the fourth quarter on the finals.

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Speaker 3: So here's what I'm saying. Here's here's what I'm about

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to say. Let me finish here.

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Speaker 4: I think if it happens in the first half, it

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should be a two quarter suspension. So if it happens

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in the first quarter, you can come back for the fourth.

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I think that should I think that would be fair.

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I do, because it's one missed hit, one miss hit

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and you're out for the game. I think that's a

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little bit extreme. Now, if it happens in the fourth quarter,

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I think it should carry into the like if it

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happens to the fourth quarter of the game, it should

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carry into the next two quarters of the next But

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just because he missed timed one hit in a game

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that has hundreds.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you make bad plays, you're laid on a hit

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and you didn't insentially do it, and you wonder where

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the spirit of law comes into play. Because the letter

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to law, I feel like they stay true to this,

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Should he have missed? Miami's She's not me not missed?

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Miami coach Mario Cristobal said, it's unjust. Do you agree

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or disagree with that comment?

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Speaker 5: I mean the way it's I think the rule it

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Speaker 2: The problem is the problem rules, Caleb. I think we

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can hear. I don't know what happened with your your MIC,

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but I think you might have gone away. I don't

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think I can even maybe pick up another headset, but

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I think I might have lost you there. I'll keep

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going until we get that figured out. But couldn't hear him.

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Really sounded like it wasn't. Uh yeah, No, I don't

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think you're back. I think yeah, you might have to.

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can't hear you. It sounds like your MIC has turned off.

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So look, is this fair or foul? I'll ask you, guys.

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I'll ask the people listening to the to the program

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right now, do you agree or disagree? Would you care

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if it was a BYU BYU player? I would. I

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would say that there might be some I don't know

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if I would call it unjust. I would say that

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it's unfortunate, and I would beg for the rule to

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be changed to say unjust. It's like it's nothing unjust.

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The rule says regardless of it. The way it's written

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is that he has to sit out. Yes, does that

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suck because it's the biggest age, the biggest game of

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them all. I mean, former BOUI receiver Kilan Maryon had

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his biggest game in you know, the summer. But that's

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that's how it goes. That's the rule. The rule is

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written for that particular purpose. You can't do that. You

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can't foul, you can't commit a penalty like that, that

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is that egregious, even if you do make a mistake

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and your lay on it, and the letter of the

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law is written, so it's not unjust. I don't agree

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with the language and the words that he's using the

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rhetoric to describe it, but I do think that it

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might be a little bit maybe unfair, unfortunate because I

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think a kid should be able to play in a

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National championship to a pece one. I'm gonna continue reading,

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you know here of what the article says, So we're

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going to have a discussion on targeting. Steve Shaw, the

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National Coordinator of Officials and the NCAA Secretary Rules editor,

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told Yahoo Sports last week from Miami site. In a

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National championship game, that needs to be an annual discussion.

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is good that they're having this conversation because you wonder

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if a kid should have to sit out or do

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you just view it as a as a normal foul,

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which I don't. I firmly believe that this is different.

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the biggest game of them all. What every team fights

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for at the start of the season, what they can win.

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there needs to be something that is adjusted. Now, I

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know people are going to disagree with me, but I

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firmly believe that they don't go away from the rule.

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But it does need to be a jectives objective and

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it says this. It's a pretty tough penalty, but it's

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a penalty that has been effective, and it has been

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The penalty has been effective and it hasn't switched. The

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College Football Playoff Board is made up of ten FBFS

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conference commissioners plus two FCS commissioners and a scheduled to

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meet next week in person in Dallas around the National

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Football Foundations getting together of the twenty three conference coordinators

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of football officials. Says, however, any rule changes to the

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targeting policy or any other rule will will ordinate from

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recommendation from the NCAA Football Rules Committee, So it has

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to come from the NCAA Rules Committee. Eve though they're

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going to get together, the committee meets annually in late February.

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having this discussion, that is a fun, fazed thing. The

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NCAA rules committee has to be the one to approve

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this ap.

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Speaker 4: Well, I I think there does need like I I

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think it's good that they're meeting about this rule. I

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wonder if I mentioned, just just a second ago, maybe

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some changes to the rule.

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Speaker 3: What if it just went to like it is in.

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Speaker 4: The NFL, because it the NFL doesn't quite treat it

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like just any other penalty.

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Speaker 3: But it's close. It's a fifteen yard penalty.

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Speaker 4: You're not thrown out of the game unless it's an

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egregious hit or something you can do. I think it

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would be great for college football to make it more

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like more like that, where it's a fifteen yard penalty

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if it's egregious, if it's an absolutely ridiculous hit, you

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can throw them out of the game and you can

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find a player, because.

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Speaker 2: I think I think.

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Speaker 3: You should find player. I think that should be that should.

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Speaker 2: Be carry because you find them.

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Speaker 3: Because they're getting paid now, they should be able to

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be fined.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. I mean, we're speaking of getting fine.

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Did you hear yesterday of meet reading Dion Sanders And

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maybe people didn't. I sent it to Ben and it's crazy,

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but this is what Dion is doing now because people

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can get paid. He has a fine system set in

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the place. Just to reiterate, reiterated to people. Colorado football

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conduct violations as follows. Number one, if you damaged team

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property is three thousand dollars. If you missed practice, which

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is crazy, twenty five hundred. I'm surprised that that one

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is so low. Missing practice like a non negotiable. You

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ain't playing unless it's a severe circumstances. You've got approval.

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Speaker 4: If I missed soccer practice when I was twelve, I

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wasn't playing. So if you're a college athlete, yeah, you

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better be in practice one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: You better be in that for sure. So you missed

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practice two point five, I couldn't tell if you missed

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rugby practice just for the heck of it wouldn't happen. Now,

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there's one time I did sleep in accidentally. My alarm

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did not go off. You're laughing, ap was not fun.

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Cole said, Oh, it's fine, Ron, But when I got

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to practice on Thursday, I apologize to the captain, apologized

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to all of my teammates and my boys, my group,

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even my Fords coaches say it happens, but we ran

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our asses off. I will I will not lie, and

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I had to run a lot. I know this, the

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kids are listening to this program. But if you miss practice,

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regardless of what the reason, and that I didn't have

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to run as much, but I did have to do

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some gassers and I had to make up for that.

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So that was punishment that was well deserved. You can't

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sleep in misspractice. That's just how it goes accountability to everybody,

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even around the three man weaver. If you have a

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public misconduct, depending what it is, he says, it's two

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thousand to five thousand. If you miss film two thousand.

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If you miss a workout, that's fifteen hundred. Surprised that

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it's only fifteen hundred there for a workout you mistreatment,

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thought this was intriguing, fifteen hundred. If you violated team rule,

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it's one thousand and two thousand, which is normal. NFL

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gives you that you know, you know. If you're late,

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if you lose equipment, it's a thousand. That's crazy. You

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only lose equipment, but a mouthpiece, that mouth that's gonna

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be an expensive mouthpiece. Ap If you're late to a workout,

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it's a thousand, if you're late to treat.

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Speaker 3: You going to the cheapest and getting another mouth.

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Speaker 2: On man, and you have to wonder if the mouthpieces

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are sponsored. You have to wonder because everything is sponsored

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these days, so you have to wonder, Hey, is this

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is this gonna fix it? Let's bring Caleb Lines back

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and let's see if it's fixed the issue. Caleb. Let's

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see if your MIC's better. Now, Yeah, there we go.

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Now we got your k Yeah kay, there it is.

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Your thoughts just on everything. Let's go back to the

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original point and then you can give commentary about people

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getting you know, replacing I guess them getting kicked out

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the next game with the fine because they get paid.

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Your comments on the Miami coach saying it's unjust that

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he was out of the game, fair or foul comments

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from from Miami's head coach, I.

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Speaker 5: Mean, I think you could make an argument that it

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is unjust the way it's currently being called. Now, I

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actually kind of want to bounce back to something you

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just really talked about about the fines. I'm actually gonna

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jump straight to that way. The way a lot of

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it happens in the NFL. You don't see as many

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people being ejected. What you do sing true, view the

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game tape, and then they'll assess a fine after the fact. Okay, So,

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if college football is becoming a professional league in and

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of itself, kind of a subsidiary of the NFL, which

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is what it feels like we're leaning towards the shifting

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towards right now in the college football landscape, is that

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an option that we go through. Now, Again, that's not

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it's not gonna be equal ramifications based off of what

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everybody's making with NIL. But I guess in the NFL

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it's not equally either because everybody's on a different salary.

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So you can make a point to maybe it should

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be a fine instead a monetary value thing, rather than

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being kicked out and not being able to participate in

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the game. Now you talk about AP was talking about it,

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it's the first quarter, Maybe you come back in the

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fourth quarter. I like that. I think that could work too.

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Maybe it's just two quarters, no matter when it happens,

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no matter how those happen, where it happens, instead of

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having somebody be out for four and some people be

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out for two like they are right now. So I

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think that could be a good application. I do think

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it's interesting that it should be a very objectively called rule. Right,

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Like the way it's laid out is, if you're leading

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with the crown of your helmet where you hit the

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head or neck area, that should be automatic disqualification according

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to the current targeting rules. Now SEMs like a very

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objective the way it's laid out. But why does it

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feel like it's being called so subjectively? Right? It feels

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like based on the game, based on the player, based

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on the.

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Speaker 2: Officiat increase, based if a quarterback is five to six.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, off of yeah, exactly, based off of if

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it's a quarterback that everybody knows, or if it's just

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somebody that nobody really knows, they're not going to really

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get that call. Now, we did see, for instance, in

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the National Championship game, there was a hit on Fernando

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Mendoza they have been called targeting. Was not called targeting. Now,

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I think again, something that could have fixed that issue.

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Maybe it's you go back and you assess a fine, right,

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and that's and that could be work. That could be

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a just a fair, a fair argument. Because it's interesting

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that Mario Crisoball is the one bringing this up but

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his players did commit one of those files that seemed

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pretty objectively targeting and was not called and was not

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reviewed and could have had an impact on the game.

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Indiana still him out on top, But would people have

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been more upset if they had lost? And you can

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point to the impact that that could or should have

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had all the game. So I don't know how we

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fix this more objectively. I love trying to take an

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objective approach when fixing these things. I think subjectivity ruins

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the way things are called. So again, that's kind of

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my non answer slash question is if it's an objective rule,

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why does it feel so subjective? So kind of again,

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like you're saying reaching that question out to the people,

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like how can we fix this? And I think we

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really may have nailed it down with in today's era

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of college football, should it be a fine that's assessed

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rather than kicking a young man out of a football

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game for something that may not have even been intentional? Right,

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that can open up a whole other kind of worms

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with who assesses the penalty, how much your charged? Like

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how that works? Right? I'd almost rather deal with that

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kind of worms at this time than to have somebody

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kicked out of the game for accidentally hitting somebody with

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a shoulder not to the crown or neck area. I mean,

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you could go back to kind of cool against Utah, like,

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do you think we would have won that game if

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targeting was called better or correctly?

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Speaker 2: Good question for that.

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Speaker 5: So I don't know. Again, I feel like I'm saying

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out of know a lot because I really don't know.

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But I think it needs to be fixed and needs

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to be discussed a little bit more. I hope we

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take a little bit of better approach of the than

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we did with the playoff expansion. Say hey, we'll just

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band aid it for a minute, but I hope we

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actually really talking about maybe out of the box solutions

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that can fix this for all of college football.

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Speaker 3: Well, and I agree one hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: There is that this rule does need to be more

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objective and less subjective, and I think that we've talked

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a lot about why it's subjective. I honestly think that

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officials are very scared of kicking a big time player

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out of the game.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I think if it was.

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Speaker 4: A lesser penalty on the field where you still have

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fifteen yards but you're not necessarily throwing him out of

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the entire game, you'd see it called more objectively. I

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honestly think that they're let's talk about this Texas Arizona

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State playoff game last year. Yeah, I if that was

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a lesser penalty, if they weren't dealing with throwing the

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kid out of the game, I think they probably call it.

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I think they were scared to throw the player out

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of the game because that was very clear objective targeting.

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But I think it gets an officials heads that they're doing,

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don't They don't want to throw a big time player

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out of a game.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes, and sometimes they will.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes they will credit again sometimes, but I think a

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lot of missed calls.

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Speaker 3: Are just they're scared to enforce it all the way.

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Speaker 2: And it's tough and look just to give people to

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reset a little bit to NCA defiance targeting, as Caleb said,

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to a degree, is when a player initiates forcible contact

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against an opposing player to the to the head or

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neck arias not just head, but it's neck area most

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often but not always, when leading with the crown on

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the crown top of the helmet against a defense player.

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If a player makes forcible contact with the head of

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a defenseless player. Targeting also may also be called the

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reason why I judge Noah Fafida and I had said that,

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and I was being tongue in cheek a little bit too.

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Is a man who also stands five foot six. I

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guess being short sometimes does have it to perks. No

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the Kiana ton of Vasa one was completely targeting, and

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it was. And when it's clear that and it goes

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to your point, Caleb, of reviewing and looking at the footage,

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which they do get the footage when they do, but

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it and this is where it's subjective because and I'm

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bringing up actual data from the ba Arizona game. You

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called targeting against Kanu ton of Vasa, which it was

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not arguing it was. And he said, can't do that.

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He's got to pull up. He ducked his head, knocked

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no out and he didn't knock him out, but he

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knocked him, like did it? And I was like, yeah,

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he's he's gone, and it was very quick. But then

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Isaiah Glasker, who's running, doesn't hit him, has his hands up,

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bumps him, you know, and they throw the flag. Okay,

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happens official store flax. But then you call targeting. No no, no, no,

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no no no. You can call roughing the passer and

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then it can be upgraded to targeting and it's still

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the same thing because you can upgrade it. If it's

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that level of egregiousness, that's I think where the subjective

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can come into play. Of what we saw in the

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Bau Arizona game, they called a targeting call that should

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have been roughing the passer and not targeting, and then

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it was different because it puts a player at risk

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when they shouldn't. They still were gonna get the first

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down for rough in the passer, but instead of a

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kid almost getting kicked out the game or putting it

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in a situation say rough in the passer, gonna look

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to go deem if it's starting, because there's nothing wrong

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with looking, right, Caleb, I think you would agree. I

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think you'd de grade p go check tape. There's nothing

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wrong with checking tape. It's not there's no there's no

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targeting foul on the play, unnecessary, unnecessarily excuse me, rough

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in the passer will still be enforced first down, Arizona.

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That's what it should be, and I think that's why

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it's subjective as mistakes like that happen, and Brady Papingle

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is the one that actually pointed that out. It wasn't me.

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I don't want to take credit for that. When Brady

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said this said, oh he's spot on with that, And

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I think that's the big deal is they're afraid to

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maybe make a call in a big time game. You

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don't want to throw a player out. And now I'm not.

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You can come from me all day. It is what

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it is. This is probably why I won't tot be

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granted the job because I'm looking, you know, for the

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smoke rather than calling the game the way it is.

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I'm joking there but also being serious. But you're afraid

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to make a call in a big time moment, then

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if you get it wrong and people chastise you, what

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then is all? This is what I just say. Just

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put them at the podium. You put them at the podium,

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we can ask them questions and this can all go

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to bed. You know, you can make them accountable. You

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know the Zebras. The Zebras are gonna get it wrong.

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But I think that's why there's it's always gonna be

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subjective and Caleb's right, when they're human nature you're asking

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me to make a call. You play soccer, ap I

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guarantee if you were a ref, and maybe you have,

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you're not gonna get every call right. I've read basketball

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and get every call right. Sometimes I'm laid on the call,

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which happens. But I think that's the subjective nature, is

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human element, big moment, the superstar call, like a j Gin,

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those facts, all of that plays a factor into it.

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You can't just be some letter of the law. But

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this is why I just say, if you wanted to

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be that way, get robots then.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's where that's where some leagues are going, like,

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you've got I think you've got the Is the MLB

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starting to use I know they had something in there

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where they might start having a robot call of strikes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if that's been I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's implemented, but I heard that

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there are some rumors there. I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I like that or I don't,

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because I do think there does need to be some

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spirit of the law judgment over letter of the law.

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Speaker 5: But well, yeah, I wonder how like oh sorry, trying

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no ahead, Absolutely, yeah, no, I mean, I wonder how accurately,

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like where people just gonna get mad of the robots then, right, Like,

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I mean, are we gonna have enough views for like

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a robot or an AI type indicator to be able

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to look at this and assess it correctly, properly? I

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mean that can bring me to a whole other tangent

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that I love to bring up and talk about. I

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think it should be mandatory, like in the NFL or

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in college football, Like, I don't care who's producing the game.

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I don't care if it's a conference game, non conference game,

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if it's a national championship game, if it's a Division

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one versus FBS fcs. Excuse me, I think all FBS

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football games should have pileon cams at the first down

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marker and at the goal lines. Like, I think, if

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you take away so much room for error by having

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those shots, how many times has a call been influenced by, Oh,

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we didn't we didn't have a camera and what we

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were looking for?

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Speaker 2: Well, how does that? How does that get your face

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right now? Andrew? If he could only see it the

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way you just.

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Speaker 5: I feel it. I feel it. Yeah, No, I think again,

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that's a little bit of a tangent. But we're talking

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about way to call things better. I don't understand how

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that's not mandatory yet. I don't understand how you can

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pop that up in one game and not have it

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in another. I mean, you have skycam that can help

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out with some.

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Speaker 2: Where's the camera?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 5: I mean, here's my ignorance. How much can that cost?

475
00:21:59,759 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 6: More?

476
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:00,240
Speaker 3: Right?

477
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:00,400
Speaker 1: Like?

478
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 5: Where can you cut cost somewhere else to make that

479
00:22:02,319 --> 00:22:03,599
a possibility in each game?

480
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 2: But cut the social media person and pay the camera.

481
00:22:07,279 --> 00:22:10,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's get pilon camps. Let's get someone's dedicated job

482
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,200
to set up that pilon cam for the first down

483
00:22:12,279 --> 00:22:14,640
marker and just set it there at the goal lines

484
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,960
in every single game. So I'm gonna start a campaign

485
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,319
on that. Follow me on Twitter, let's get it going.

486
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,160
I'll get some signatures, and we'll get this before ESPN,

487
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:23,880
because I think they're the ones that make all decisions

488
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,119
for a college football right now.

489
00:22:25,279 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 3: It's so true, like I have been screaming this for years.

490
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,079
There is just no way.

491
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:37,279
Speaker 4: There's no way that ESPN, Fox, CBS, ABC does not

492
00:22:37,519 --> 00:22:42,680
have enough money, Dant, There's no way that any of

493
00:22:42,759 --> 00:22:48,640
these networks who have who are producing and broadcasting college

494
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:53,480
football games, cannot spare a few dollars to put a

495
00:22:53,599 --> 00:22:56,759
pylon cam at every game. It to me, it's just

496
00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:01,039
so basic. They have cameras everywhere. They have so many cameras,

497
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,599
some of which are not needed. I think they have

498
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,759
cameras on top of the stadium that are never used

499
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:12,759
during an actual broadcast. There's no way you can't tell

500
00:23:12,839 --> 00:23:16,640
me that they can't have a pylon cam at every

501
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,039
single game or put a camera on the first down markers.

502
00:23:20,079 --> 00:23:23,319
That is exactly right, and I've been screaming that for years.

503
00:23:23,759 --> 00:23:27,079
It's ridiculous to me. So many games have been won

504
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,160
or lost because they, like Caleb just said, they didn't

505
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:32,440
have the camera angle.

506
00:23:32,599 --> 00:23:36,039
Speaker 3: And to me, it's the simplest fix in the world.

507
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 2: Speaking of a fix, how much of a fix could

508
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,279
be in the Heisman run. Let's finish with this. We

509
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,799
do have to get to break. But I just saw

510
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,759
a piece that I liked that I didn't get a

511
00:23:48,839 --> 00:23:53,119
chance to bring up. Kalani Sataki's one thousand and five

512
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:58,079
yard running back leaves into the Heisman Trophy conversation after

513
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,680
return twenty twenty six, LJ. Martin, the guy that had

514
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,079
three straight games of one hundred rushing yards. This is

515
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,039
Pro Football Focus. They said this Martin ranks as the

516
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:13,200
pff sn CFB running Back Impact Rankings number two. He's

517
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,599
coming in on that this guy was so fantastic. BYU's

518
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,240
run first approach ranks fortieth in the FBS last year,

519
00:24:21,599 --> 00:24:24,200
averaging one hundred and seventy eight one point yards per

520
00:24:24,319 --> 00:24:28,200
game in the Big Twelve, where passing offense seem like

521
00:24:28,279 --> 00:24:30,599
the prevailing style of play for the Cougars, the Cougars

522
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,480
want to keep running the football. BYU and Heisman share

523
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,680
history three Cougars, Steve Young, Robbie Bosco in nineteen ninety one,

524
00:24:38,759 --> 00:24:42,079
or Ty Demer other schools only finalists. Now we know

525
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:43,960
Jake Retzlaf said he wanted to be in New York,

526
00:24:44,079 --> 00:24:47,599
but that wasn't the case because he ended up at Tulane.

527
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,240
By's blockbuster schedule will make Martin's Heisman case chase a

528
00:24:51,279 --> 00:24:55,920
battle to watch. Facing TCU Notre Dame Iowa State means

529
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,160
every yard will be earned. Crucial back to back games

530
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,160
against Arizona State Utah think up the drama even more,

531
00:25:01,279 --> 00:25:03,240
especially that Holy War game, as they like to say.

532
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:08,400
Victory over there Fiarce's rival could spark that pushes for

533
00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:12,000
Martin to get into that legend conversation. Martin plays on

534
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,440
an offense that emphasizes rushing b while you also avoid

535
00:25:15,519 --> 00:25:19,960
Texas Tech this season, which can boost confidence. Could LJ.

536
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,359
Martin make a run to his way to New York. Now,

537
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,000
a lot of things have to happen for this to

538
00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:28,400
be the case. Ap and Caleb, he obviously will be

539
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,240
the leading Russian, no doubt. He has to break the

540
00:25:30,279 --> 00:25:33,640
BYU single. He has to break the rushing record. I

541
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,400
think he has to stay healthy. I mean, that's all

542
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,559
of this revolves around health. You just put help. Remember

543
00:25:38,599 --> 00:25:40,519
the thing he used to do in fifth or sixth grade.

544
00:25:40,759 --> 00:25:43,119
You draw the big bubble like an egg, you write

545
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:44,799
the thing in it, and then you draw the little

546
00:25:44,839 --> 00:25:47,680
thing after. It's probably science that I'm talking about, but

547
00:25:47,799 --> 00:25:51,599
look that's what it is. So obviously health is the

548
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,720
main thing. But he has to break the Russian record.

549
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,200
He has to lead the team in rushing.

550
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:57,319
Speaker 3: Here's a little thing.

551
00:25:58,319 --> 00:26:00,799
Speaker 4: Baar Bachmeyer has to hand the ball off at the

552
00:26:00,839 --> 00:26:04,480
two yard line instead of rushing it at himself lost

553
00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:08,039
out on like eight touchdowns because Bear had his own

554
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:09,359
rushing touchdowns right there.

555
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 2: It's true, but that's not on bear. That's play called it.

556
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 4: It's not and they're to be honest, get in the

557
00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:17,480
end zone however you want. I'm just absolutely I'm just

558
00:26:17,519 --> 00:26:19,799
saying in order to have Heisman numbers.

559
00:26:21,039 --> 00:26:22,799
Speaker 2: But I think this coming back this next year, I

560
00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:25,160
can see that definitely happening. I could see with him

561
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,720
having a chance to break the record and how they

562
00:26:26,839 --> 00:26:29,240
leaned on him. Now, granted they're gonna run their offense,

563
00:26:29,319 --> 00:26:31,279
but Aaronic said in the Cincinnati Aga and we didn't

564
00:26:31,279 --> 00:26:33,400
plan on that. But hey, but I think they see

565
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,480
or they will plan on leaning on LJ. But I'm

566
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,920
still worried about the debt. But Caleb, your thoughts. Could LJ.

567
00:26:39,039 --> 00:26:41,880
Martin run himself to New York and have an opportunity

568
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,720
to be in the Heisman conversation? Could LJ Martin be

569
00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:46,359
AP's not in his head? No, so we'll get to

570
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,000
him in just a second. But uh, he has a chance,

571
00:26:50,079 --> 00:26:51,799
But I think the quarterback might have a better chance.

572
00:26:51,839 --> 00:26:54,599
Speaker 5: Your thoughts, Caleb, Yeah, I think to be in the conversation,

573
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,160
he's probably have to break that rushing record you're talking about.

574
00:26:57,279 --> 00:26:57,559
Speaker 2: Period.

575
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,079
Speaker 5: My my first thought though, when we bring this up,

576
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,119
is are we talking about production? Are we talking about flashiness?

577
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: Right?

578
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 5: I think we learned with Age Ashton Genty and Travis Hunter.

579
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,920
You can take either side of that argument, with whichever

580
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,319
one you want, right, Like, I know how I personally

581
00:27:14,319 --> 00:27:17,519
feel about that. But Ashton Genty had the type of

582
00:27:17,559 --> 00:27:20,039
production that isn't really matched and he did not win

583
00:27:20,079 --> 00:27:23,200
the Heisman Trophy. So LJ. Martin, the way he runs,

584
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,960
the way he does things, he can show a little

585
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,519
bit of flashness here and there. He's kind of like

586
00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:29,240
a ground and pound type of guy where he'll make

587
00:27:29,279 --> 00:27:33,079
defenders miss. He's a tough nosed runner. He'll get downhill.

588
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,920
He might get caught from behind a few times, but

589
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,440
he's a good runner. Is he as flashy as people

590
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,799
want people to be if you're gonna win the Heisman Trophy,

591
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,519
especially as a non quarterback, I don't know if he's

592
00:27:44,519 --> 00:27:46,519
got the flashiness to do that. So maybe the numbers

593
00:27:46,559 --> 00:27:49,039
could be flashy enough for him to get into that conversation.

594
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,920
But I just again, I think back to the type

595
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,119
of season Ashton Genty had. Now he was going up

596
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:59,160
against a two time prospect who's now actually playing excuse me,

597
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,079
a multi way prospect who's now playing both ways in

598
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,680
the NFL and may continue to do that is what

599
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,559
I'm hearing. But was it who Ashton Genty went against

600
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,680
that he lost the Heisman Trophy or was it? Because

601
00:28:12,079 --> 00:28:14,400
I don't know, there are a lot of thoughts that

602
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,160
I have with this. I I don't see L. J.

603
00:28:17,319 --> 00:28:20,839
Martin putting up Ashton Genty type numbers, and so that'd

604
00:28:20,839 --> 00:28:23,640
be crazy because of that experience. If that would even

605
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,240
be enough. I guess it depends what year it is,

606
00:28:25,319 --> 00:28:27,759
right who your competition is gonna be. So again, I

607
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,759
just think of flashing its versus production, and what kind

608
00:28:31,799 --> 00:28:34,599
of mixture of both Elder's gonna have for next year. Absolutely,

609
00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:36,559
I think he could be in that conversation. Will he be,

610
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:37,720
I'm not. I'm not sure.

611
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: Before you go a P, I mean he is flashy.

612
00:28:39,759 --> 00:28:41,759
He's flashy because he hits Chase Roberts in the back

613
00:28:41,799 --> 00:28:44,559
of the back when he's running, you know, so that

614
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,559
that might be he gets on the highlight tape, you know,

615
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,359
it takes out sometimes his own guy. We're gonna get

616
00:28:49,359 --> 00:28:51,759
We're gonna interviews Chase next week. Actually to get caught

617
00:28:51,839 --> 00:28:53,400
up with him how the Bowl games and things are going,

618
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,640
and we're gonna ask that. Did you see on tape?

619
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,279
Ill just kept decking you in the back. You know

620
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,440
what'd you say to him? It's so we're gonna ask

621
00:28:59,559 --> 00:29:02,319
Chase that question. I think that's funny. I'm joking with

622
00:29:02,359 --> 00:29:03,720
the flashing this ap go ahead.

623
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: I don't mean to rain on a parade here.

624
00:29:09,759 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 5: L J.

625
00:29:10,079 --> 00:29:11,319
Speaker 3: Martin is not winning the Heisman.

626
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: I just didn't.

627
00:29:14,759 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna get to New York.

628
00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: Well, I believe Bear would be in New York before LG.

629
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:20,119
Speaker 5: If.

630
00:29:20,119 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest that.

631
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 4: Oh and and I'll agree with you here. And here's

632
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,359
why I'm not saying. Let me be clear to the

633
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,640
Utah fans listening in, I am not saying Bear is

634
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:32,519
going to New York.

635
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 5: I'm not saying.

636
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

637
00:29:34,559 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 3: I just want to be very clear before they clip

638
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:41,640
that and put that online or tweet at me. But

639
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,119
the Heisman is a quarterback award.

640
00:29:45,519 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: Facts, it just is.

641
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: It's not given to the best player every year.

642
00:29:49,759 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 4: It's given to the best quarterback mostly now there's the Anomaies,

643
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,279
there's a Travis Hunters or or every once in a while.

644
00:29:56,279 --> 00:29:58,920
You've got the wide receiver from Alabama a few years ago.

645
00:29:59,599 --> 00:30:02,720
But for the the most part, yeah, Davon Tasemith. For

646
00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:07,039
the most part, it's a quarterback award. What I want

647
00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:11,599
to see, what I predict actually is that L J.

648
00:30:11,799 --> 00:30:16,240
Martin is a Dope Walker Award finalist. Okay, I think

649
00:30:16,279 --> 00:30:18,519
he can get there, and I think that would be

650
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:19,680
huge because that is.

651
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: Also a requirement. I think if you're gonna get to

652
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:22,720
New York, it is.

653
00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:28,039
Speaker 4: But I just don't see New York take like, to

654
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,960
be honest, I think the heisman is Julian Sand. It's

655
00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:35,000
gonna be that Julian Sand to me. But it's a

656
00:30:35,079 --> 00:30:37,519
quarterback award. They're going to take the top quarterbacks of

657
00:30:37,599 --> 00:30:39,480
the year. They're gonna put them in New York. They

658
00:30:39,559 --> 00:30:41,920
might take a wide receiver or a line if they've.

659
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:42,359
Speaker 2: Had a great year.

660
00:30:42,519 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

661
00:30:42,839 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: So you don't believe a guy like Jeremiah Smith can

662
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:45,240
killin it?

663
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:46,759
Speaker 3: Now?

664
00:30:47,359 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 2: Wow? Okay, Okay, I'm I I thought I could get

665
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,759
you right there. He hesitated for a second, But I

666
00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:55,440
guess not. I believe it a guy like Jeremies Smith could.

667
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,039
He didn't have to have a ridiculous season. I do

668
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,759
agree with it as a quarterback award. I want to

669
00:30:59,759 --> 00:31:02,039
know if Jared Bledsoe shout out to Utah Protective Films,

670
00:31:02,519 --> 00:31:04,359
is listening to this segment because I want to know

671
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,119
his thoughts and if I get a text message here

672
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,839
a little bit, then I'll know. But I want to

673
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,680
know could l J. Martin run his way to New York?

674
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,240
And if he didn't, does he believe that Bear would

675
00:31:14,279 --> 00:31:16,359
go to New York first before LJ? Now, Grant is

676
00:31:16,359 --> 00:31:18,960
only one season left, but it's not fair to compare that.

677
00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:20,680
But I wonder what this next season would Bear have

678
00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:23,920
the numbers and stats and the flashiness. Like kaylab is saying,

679
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,599
what he go before LJ. But Lj's got a shot.

680
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,880
If he does, He's not winning it, but I think

681
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,559
he'd be the last guy if anything, if that were

682
00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:32,559
to be the case. But he has to have multiple

683
00:31:32,599 --> 00:31:35,440
games of one hundred yards rushing. He has to break

684
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,880
the all time rushing record at bou win the Dope

685
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,880
Walker Award lead BYU in total touchdowns. I'm being honest

686
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,119
to we're gonna receiving yard two and back that up.

687
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,640
And they've been using him in the past game more,

688
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,720
which they can. But you're talking about fifteen, sixteen hundred,

689
00:31:51,079 --> 00:31:53,880
seventeen hundred total yards often he just brought up Ashon Genty.

690
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,279
The guys that were rushing, you know, had over two

691
00:31:56,319 --> 00:31:59,160
thousand with passing, over two thousand total yards of offense

692
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,640
in the season. You're talking about fifteen hundred yards on

693
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,359
the ground, five hundred receiving yards. That's a big time season.

694
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,400
So there's a lot that has to happen. Julian Sands

695
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,680
are obviously going to be in the conversation. If Trinidad

696
00:32:11,759 --> 00:32:13,759
Chambliss is able to come back, he's going to be

697
00:32:13,839 --> 00:32:16,319
in the conversation. It's going to be a lot of quarterbacks,

698
00:32:16,319 --> 00:32:18,240
So I that's why I say it would be Bear

699
00:32:18,359 --> 00:32:20,319
before blgib And I'm interestped.

700
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,359
Speaker 3: To know what your point earlier.

701
00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:26,119
Speaker 4: If there is going to be a non quarterback who

702
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,240
as a finalist, it will be Jeremiah.

703
00:32:27,839 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: Smith because that's what I'm saying. I think he has

704
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:31,160
to be.

705
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,359
Speaker 3: I think he's the only one.

706
00:32:33,519 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: He's the only one that it's true, he's probably the

707
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:37,920
only one that has a shot. Anyway, we need to

708
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,079
take a break. We've been going way too long. But

709
00:32:40,119 --> 00:32:41,920
that college football segment, A lot of good talk stuff.

710
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,599
How do you feel about the targeting role? Just to

711
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:48,000
reset fair foul, unjust comments? What needs to change with

712
00:32:48,079 --> 00:32:49,359
the rule? We've said a lot of good stuff. We

713
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,000
all agree that doesn't need to carry over. Does that

714
00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:53,799
mean you missed the second and third quarter of a game,

715
00:32:53,839 --> 00:32:55,839
you shut out in game and you don't play. Does

716
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,960
that mean whenever it happens, you're done and then you're fined.

717
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,440
All of this again, it's going to be subject but

718
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,200
that's the nature. That's the problem. Is things too subjective

719
00:33:03,759 --> 00:33:06,400
when you have the human human element that comes into play.

720
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,759
But I do agree, for my personal standpoint, if that

721
00:33:08,759 --> 00:33:10,519
would BYU and that would have happened, I would not

722
00:33:10,599 --> 00:33:12,720
have wanted to see a BYU player sit out the

723
00:33:12,759 --> 00:33:14,839
first two quarters of a national championship game. And I

724
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think everyone can agree with that, unless you're just die hard. Nope,

725
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this is the rule and I won't budge. I'll respect

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737
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Cougar byte talk on a flip. What did Bill self

738
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,799
have to say about Richie Sanders, Rob Righting, aj De

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Bonson is Darren d Bounds? Excuse me? And this Darren

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Speaker 2: The fan, welcome back to Cougar Sports here one O

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A bruises who bruises those you fans. We also have

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We appreciate him showing up and showing out doing a

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fantastic job as well. We're filling in today and the

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next couple of days for Ben Crital. We'll be back

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on Monday taking care of some stuff. Wishing Brad Hammer

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speedy recovery as well. In the process. Let's go really

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here we go. I'm gonna get into a little cougar

771
00:35:32,119 --> 00:35:34,440
byte here Bill self. What did he have to say

772
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,880
about Richie Saunders. People talk so much about AJ right

773
00:35:40,039 --> 00:35:44,199
is good, but Sanders they got strollers. The guy that's

774
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,199
like thirty five in Provo has been a Kansas killer

775
00:35:48,199 --> 00:35:51,199
the last years he has. He has. Bill's self gives

776
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,639
his impressions of BYU basketball guard Richie Sanders, the team

777
00:35:56,199 --> 00:35:59,760
and just the overall performance that he thinks that his

778
00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:02,280
needs to have to take down by you on Saturday.

779
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 5: Let's tune in love him.

780
00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:07,199
Speaker 6: I think Kevin's done a great job and short amount

781
00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:09,719
of time. You know, they can stretch it from all

782
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,000
four spots. Uh Uh, they can play around the big

783
00:36:13,159 --> 00:36:16,599
they they they have realm protection and and you know

784
00:36:16,679 --> 00:36:19,039
they got to you know, people talk so much about

785
00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:22,599
AJ but you know right is good. But the Saunders

786
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,480
has been just killer the last two years. He he

787
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,440
he is so good and he gets such great elevation

788
00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:31,920
on his jumper that that it's it's it's a hard

789
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:32,800
one to contest.

790
00:36:33,199 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 1: Uh.

791
00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 6: And he's making shots it's it's hard. Uh, but uh,

792
00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:39,800
I like their team. I like their team. Our league,

793
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,360
as you know, is a monster, and you know there's.

794
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,159
Speaker 2: Four or five six teams in our league.

795
00:36:46,199 --> 00:36:48,079
Speaker 6: If you get hot at the right time, you know,

796
00:36:48,119 --> 00:36:50,679
it could be not in the second weekend, could be

797
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,239
in the third weekend of March. So so and b

798
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,719
y us certainly one of those guys.

799
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 2: You know, Bill there it is he said, BYU is

800
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:58,719
certainly one of those guys.

801
00:36:59,159 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 3: Uh.

802
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: I'll start with you ap your thoughts on Bill Seals

803
00:37:01,559 --> 00:37:05,280
comments ages AJ, we know what is right's good? But

804
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,280
Saunders the Kansas Killer? Your takeaways?

805
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 4: Well, I think Richie Saunders is the only player on

806
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,800
this team that played both years that we beat Kansas.

807
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: I would I would agree with that.

808
00:37:19,199 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 4: I think he's the only well okay, if you count

809
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:31,800
players that actually play. Yeah, yeah, so Bill s Richie

810
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,559
Saunders is the one player that Bill self is personally

811
00:37:35,039 --> 00:37:39,880
very aware of and and he's done very well in

812
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:45,519
those games. I think Bill self has always been very

813
00:37:46,039 --> 00:37:49,679
classy when it comes to by us treated b Yu

814
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,039
so he's gonna say nice things. I think he's also

815
00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:57,000
learned to respect the program, not just you know, say

816
00:37:57,039 --> 00:37:59,320
it in front of the microphone. But he's lost to

817
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:00,280
him twice in a row?

818
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 3: And how many how many?

819
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 4: How many teams has Bill self lost to twice in

820
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,599
a row? Like, it's probably not a very big number

821
00:38:11,639 --> 00:38:14,800
of teams from a coach who's that good and one

822
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,519
as much as Bill self has.

823
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,679
Speaker 3: But I think, I mean, I.

824
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 4: If I was Kansas, I would be worried about Ritchie,

825
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,159
but not nearly as much as AJ. I honestly think

826
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,599
this could be a game where AJ and Darren try

827
00:38:32,639 --> 00:38:35,280
to play is oball little too much and just try

828
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:36,360
to go one on one.

829
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,519
Speaker 2: Hope that AJ doesn't fall into that trap. Remember it's

830
00:38:39,519 --> 00:38:42,360
about the team get it done. Uh, Caleb, I'll get

831
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,079
your thoughts on this, and then I'll give the stats

832
00:38:44,119 --> 00:38:46,199
of how Richie Saunders is the Kansas Killer.

833
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'll go right onto what if he

834
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,000
was just talking about with AJ, maybe wanted to take

835
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,719
on a little bit too much. I don't feel like

836
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,280
I've seen a ton of that this season. I mean,

837
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,360
I think there has been a little a little bit

838
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,360
where it's like, Okay, he didn't quite need to do that.

839
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,159
I mean, the first half against Yukon felt a little

840
00:39:04,159 --> 00:39:05,360
bit for ud. I know we were back in his

841
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,320
hometown of Boston, was trying to put on a show there,

842
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,159
and in the second half he did come out and

843
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,159
he did play really well and help us get back

844
00:39:12,199 --> 00:39:14,400
into that game make a run for it. So I

845
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,320
don't think the answer is to tell Aj to do less.

846
00:39:17,639 --> 00:39:19,599
I mean, again, it comes down to coaching and what

847
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,480
Ky wants him to do and when he wants them

848
00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:23,840
to do it. I did see something earlier this week

849
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,239
talking about how there have been a few times where

850
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,800
Aj will get into the paint and kind of do it, turnaround,

851
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,400
step back with two people on him with twenty two

852
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,480
seconds left on the shot clock. Now, I don't know

853
00:39:34,519 --> 00:39:36,440
if I care as much about how much time is

854
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,320
left on the shot clock. If that's AJ's shot, if

855
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,400
he's feeling it, I think it's I think it can

856
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,599
be a good shot wherever it's at. If he doesn't

857
00:39:42,639 --> 00:39:44,400
make the shot, it's a lot easier to critique it

858
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,239
and say that was a bad shot. Would we be

859
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,519
saying the same thing if he makes those with twenty

860
00:39:48,559 --> 00:39:50,400
two seconds left on the shot clock? I'm not sure.

861
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,639
I do think getting Richie more touches on the offensive

862
00:39:54,679 --> 00:39:57,400
side of the ball against Kansas will really do wonders

863
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,519
for BYU and the fact that they'll have to respect

864
00:39:59,559 --> 00:40:01,199
a lot more people. Right, if you're gonna have to

865
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,400
respect Rob, right, if you're gonna have to respect Richie

866
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,400
Saunders and AJ Debonsa. I me you're talking about Bill Seff.

867
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,559
He knows that you're gonna have to respect Richie Sunders

868
00:40:08,599 --> 00:40:10,559
with the ball. Is there anything we can get Richie

869
00:40:10,599 --> 00:40:12,840
a little bit more attention, take some of that attention

870
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,679
off of AJ and let him go off like he

871
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,039
did against Utah. I mean, it's felt like he wasn't

872
00:40:17,079 --> 00:40:19,599
getting as much attention against Utah, So I think about

873
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,079
how can we get eyes off of AJ and still

874
00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:24,239
get production on him. I think Richie Saunders is the

875
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,320
answer for that, Like, let him do his thing, give

876
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,639
him the ball, get him some touches. I think you

877
00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:31,480
don't want to go too many possessions without Richie Saunders

878
00:40:31,519 --> 00:40:34,199
getting an actual good look at the ball. And I

879
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,360
think that's what's gonna have to happen against Kansas to

880
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,400
win that game. Like, I don't think we're gonna need

881
00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:41,519
lights out shooting from our big three. They tend to

882
00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:43,440
do that. They like to do that I like that

883
00:40:43,519 --> 00:40:45,880
they like to do that, but I kind of want

884
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,119
to see Richie get the ball in his hands earlier

885
00:40:48,119 --> 00:40:50,119
in the shot clock and see what he can do

886
00:40:50,199 --> 00:40:50,360
with it.

887
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why when I said earlier in then Nitty

888
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,360
Gritty in the first time, he missed that you can

889
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,760
download on the podcast, you should upload here momentarily doing

890
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,199
double duty today produce hosting all of it. So it

891
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:02,599
might take a little bit of time. Bear with me,

892
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,679
but no, I bring all of it up because I

893
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,880
think Richie is the key to unlocking it. When he's

894
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,079
hitting threes, BA is extremely hard to stop on Rob.

895
00:41:10,159 --> 00:41:12,920
Rob's finding him. When Rob is close to double Digitusister

896
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,880
gets over that Bo. He's blowing teams out by twenty.

897
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,000
So Rob has a double JJITUSS game per the metrics,

898
00:41:18,039 --> 00:41:20,119
per the numbers, BA, he blows Kansas out. Do I

899
00:41:20,159 --> 00:41:22,800
think that will happen. No, but your point is right,

900
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,400
Caleb unlocking Richie, I think fifteen the top kin, the

901
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,280
Riverton native, that is the guy to do it. And

902
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,559
it's interesting that Bill Sels said that he's a Kansas killer.

903
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,159
He didn't kill him the first year in the game.

904
00:41:33,159 --> 00:41:35,440
I'm looking at the stats here, Bau won that game

905
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,880
seventy six to sixty I believe. Want to make sure

906
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,199
my math is right. Yeah, Richie had five points. He

907
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,400
played I think twenty two minutes, and he was two

908
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,000
to seven from the field, one to four from three,

909
00:41:45,039 --> 00:41:47,199
and I think he missed his only free throw attempt

910
00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:51,159
as well. Last year however, it was a BTA handing

911
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,480
them that took him behind and shit in the words

912
00:41:53,559 --> 00:41:57,519
of Kavi and BTA Bell tabooty, that's lily what it was.

913
00:41:57,559 --> 00:42:00,679
And it was the worst lost in Kansas history. I

914
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,360
think in the conference slate it was crazy. BA won

915
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,280
ninety one to fifty seven. My gosh, Richie had twenty

916
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,840
two points in twenty nine minutes to play, if I'm

917
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,639
correct looking at this, and he just went bonkers, honestly.

918
00:42:14,679 --> 00:42:17,039
I mean there was nothing that they could they could

919
00:42:17,079 --> 00:42:18,960
do by the way, Richie went back to back games.

920
00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:21,760
He played well against the Kansas State game prior, but

921
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,719
he was not a thirteen four v eight from the

922
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,719
three and he didn't attempt a free throw in that game.

923
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,159
So yeah, you can argue that he is the Kansas Killer.

924
00:42:31,159 --> 00:42:34,039
And I think he knows Bill's self, like you guys said, classly,

925
00:42:34,679 --> 00:42:38,239
classy guy that understands that if they let Richie Saunders

926
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,400
get going and the byus hitting threes, that they're a

927
00:42:41,559 --> 00:42:44,519
very difficult team to stop. But I think that's the answer.

928
00:42:44,559 --> 00:42:46,199
I think you need to run the offense and the

929
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,960
ball through Richie. Kansas likes to play a man to man,

930
00:42:50,079 --> 00:42:52,280
but they're little sometimes slow off the screen and the

931
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,119
pin down. So I think he understands their weaknesses and

932
00:42:55,199 --> 00:42:57,599
what their strengths and what their core competencies are. And

933
00:42:57,679 --> 00:43:00,199
I think he realizes that if they let Richie go

934
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,719
off and get going to BA, he's not gonna win

935
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,679
this game. Because he watched tape right ap Caleb, he

936
00:43:06,159 --> 00:43:08,239
knows that that Rob and Aj aren't gonna go for

937
00:43:08,679 --> 00:43:11,000
nine a forty. All of us believe that they're not

938
00:43:11,079 --> 00:43:13,239
gonna go nine to forty. It's not gonna happen. So

939
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,920
he is saying, Okay, we're not gonna really be able

940
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,320
to slow the other two down. We have a seven

941
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,199
foot that can block. But if he gets in foul trouble,

942
00:43:21,199 --> 00:43:22,679
who they really need to worry about When they want

943
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,559
to space the floor, it's fifteen. He likes to do

944
00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:27,880
steph Curry likes to run from baseline to Baseline likes

945
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to get downhill on rip. So, but we'll see. We'll

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see if they mug Richie, because they've been mugging them

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all season. Everybody. We need to go to break guys.

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But I just want to give you a little cougar

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back there. That's Bill Seb's comment. If you want to

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check out the rest of it, I just need to

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give credit to. That's from CBS Sports College Basketball. It's

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John Rostein actually sitting down with Bill Self and discussing

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this to Kansas men's basketball head coaches. Bill Self compares

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recent AJ excuse me, Darren Peterson performance to Kevin Durandy,

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discusses a bunch of things. He talks about Darren Peterson

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and AJ matchup. What do you expe from that? He

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breaks down by you, Kevin Young, It's a bunch of stuff.

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So you can check that out. That's what we're getting

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it from playing one of those clips off of YouTube.

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to break. Let's get into a little inside report really

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quickly before we welcome in Darnell Dixon of the Daily Herald.

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You're listening to Cougar Sports right here on one O

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three nine and ninety eight three IAN.

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Speaker 1: You were listening to Cougar Sports with Ben Griddle, and

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that for a prietary inside scoop on Cougar Sports from Credle.

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as well, first time Coast and appreciate him showing up

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and showing out. You're doing a wonderful job. By the way, Caleb,

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appreciate everyone that's been tuning in listen to it. We

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got the technical difficulties fixed. They able to get the

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some people are gonna say Ronnie Crittle said free pizza.

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Here's your insider report. I talked about how the top

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king you know, by the way, forgot to mention Richie

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Saunas rinks thirty fourth in ESPN's ranking the top fifty

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men's basketball College basketball players are the midseason point of Myra.

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Metcalf was the one that put that article out. We've

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had Myrono in front of the program. Also, just want

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to let you guys know you're gonna hear my Cougar

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sports interrupted in the next break or two and in

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for the rest of the show. Listen to it. You

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get the value. Adds and I discussed this as well,

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and give Richie a little bit of praise too. But

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it's actually gonna be a defensive guy. Ba us K Pakeda.

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He was one of twenty five players named to the

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twenty twenty six Nate Smith Men's College Defensive Player of

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the Year watch list that was announced this morning. The

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native of Mibaca, Mali, has a team high thirty four

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blocks in eighteen games this season, ninety one of his

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one hundred and forty four excuse me four one hundred

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and forty one rebounds coming on the defensive glass. According

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to CBS Analytics, he ranks in the ninety seven percent

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out in a keem percentage, ninety six percent out in

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defensive rebound percentage and ninety fifth in block percentage. He's

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recorded multiple blocks nine times this season, including a seven

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block performance in that win against Miami that was a

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career high. By the way, just so people know, six

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of those blocks came in the second half, which is

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the second most in any half in program history. Keba

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now earns it. I know a lot of people shocked

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by that. I was as well. That's why you need

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a rim protector, Bdo backing them up too. You gotta

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love that one to two punch. In fifty three games

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as a Cougar, Kada ranked third in program history and

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blocks per game with one point one point four zero,

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while his seventy five blocks, which are tied for eighteen

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most in program history with Fred Roberts. That you go BYU,

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as I said, returns action Saturday, January thirty. First tip

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is schedule for three thirty pm Central Time on ESPN

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plus AP and myself will be taking you up on

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the pregame all the way until tip off from two

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thirty pm to three thirty pm, so you can get

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Darnel Dixon coming up into Cougar Beat the third hour

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of Cougar Sports. Still a lot more to get to

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right here on one O three nine ninety eight three

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