Speaker 1: Have the pleasure of having Lisa Ann on the couch.
Speaker 2: Hello and welcome. I'm excited to have you here.
Speaker 3: I am so glad we finally made this happen.
Speaker 4: I felt like I was pump faking you every time
Speaker 4: I would see you at a show and be like,
Speaker 4: I got to come on your podcast, and I know
Speaker 4: you don't do it remotely, and so when I saw
Speaker 4: you at Exotica, I was like, let me just send
Speaker 4: you the dates, let me just make this happen. Here
Speaker 4: we are, my bags are packed, I'm going to the
Speaker 4: airport directly from here. But making this happen.
Speaker 2: But I love that you made it happen again. I
Speaker 2: always know it's kind of one of those things that
Speaker 2: Exotica is when you see everybody, it's like chatting, but
Speaker 2: it's just like we have so many different things going on.
Speaker 2: So I wanted to hike actually have a real podcast
Speaker 2: with you, not like the twenty minute ones, because I
Speaker 2: feel like you have a lot to bring to the
Speaker 2: table as far as your knowledge within the background of
Speaker 2: the business and how who you are as a person,
Speaker 2: and you're such, you know, an inspiring person to a
Speaker 2: lot of people. So I felt like you got to
Speaker 2: come on private Talk.
Speaker 4: So it's a pleasure. It's an honor to know that
Speaker 4: I inspire people.
Speaker 1: Honestly, Thank you.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: So we just got back from Exotica, but it's all
Speaker 2: kinds of you know, things are going you know, we're
Speaker 2: back into the convent. What kind of fun projects are
Speaker 2: you doing besides the conventions? Obviously you have a lot
Speaker 2: of things going on. You have your own podcast, you
Speaker 2: do a couple I think a couple podcasts, and you
Speaker 2: have your books. Like what kind of things are you
Speaker 2: in the works right now?
Speaker 1: For Miss Lisaan So.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have my podcast, Lisa and Experience.
Speaker 4: I do a podcast with Sapphire, which is so great
Speaker 4: because I get to meet features before their gig, whether
Speaker 4: it's somebody I know that I've been seen in a
Speaker 4: while or someone new in the industry. And I just
Speaker 4: remember how excited I was when I first went out
Speaker 4: on the road. And then I do a show for
Speaker 4: Sirius xm Raw Comedy. It's called Better Has Me comedian
Speaker 4: Brett Raybold. He's super funny, super wholesome kid from Kansas City.
Speaker 4: Shout out Brett with one Tea and I'm back. I'm
Speaker 4: so happy to be back. In studio at SiriusXM. There's
Speaker 4: just something about the first time I started doing shows
Speaker 4: there in the fantasy sports space in twenty thirteen that
Speaker 4: makes me feel like it's really where my independence outside
Speaker 4: of the industry was birth. And when I go back,
Speaker 4: and because also it's corporate and there's hr so nobody
Speaker 4: could be creepy with me. Every yeah, and everybody was
Speaker 4: so mindful of that, you know, like there would be
Speaker 4: more fist bumps than hugs. And I was like, I
Speaker 4: just felt renewed there. And so to be back in
Speaker 4: the studio on out of sports, take a little sports
Speaker 4: break and doing something where you just get to laugh
Speaker 4: and talk shit, it's amazing.
Speaker 2: I love that. As a woman who has navigated various industries,
Speaker 2: including the adult industry and sports, what advice would you
Speaker 2: give to young women striving to defy stereotypes and pursue
Speaker 2: other actions? Like you said, with the you know, being corporate,
Speaker 2: there has a lot of you know, like a strict
Speaker 2: rule that people couldn't kind of cross those lines or
Speaker 2: anything like that.
Speaker 1: But is there any kind of what advice would you give?
Speaker 4: You know, really how you present yourself to people make
Speaker 4: such a difference you have a strong presence and a
Speaker 4: strong entrance, and no matter how you're addressed, you have
Speaker 4: a strong enough presence. Alexis that you can keep someone
Speaker 4: draw to your eyes and keep them focused, and that's
Speaker 4: very important as someone who wants to create change and
Speaker 4: could still be viewed a very particular way by people,
Speaker 4: it's important that you reject something differently now right, and
Speaker 4: that you have that confidence that this is who I
Speaker 4: am and this is what I'm doing here. Consistency is
Speaker 4: key with everything, and I think no matter what you
Speaker 4: did in any walk of life, being a woman makes
Speaker 4: us want to work twice as hard because we're still
Speaker 4: trying to earn equal pay, we're still trying to have
Speaker 4: complete equal rights, and so I think we go so
Speaker 4: far out of the way. That's why in the sports
Speaker 4: business you notice so many more women succeeding. They're on
Speaker 4: the sidelines. We had our first woman for the Masters
Speaker 4: this year, which was amazing, and that's showing us and
Speaker 4: it's because we're working harder. So just keep working harder,
Speaker 4: don't let people frustrate you. Keep yourself where you have
Speaker 4: to put a post it on your mirror of where
Speaker 4: you're going and where you want to go and how
Speaker 4: you want it to make you feel. That is your
Speaker 4: driving force, not the opinions of others, not how other
Speaker 4: people treat you. That you are your driving force.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: Can you share any experiences where you thought empowered by
Speaker 2: embracing your feminity in a male dominated spaces such as
Speaker 2: the sports and adult film industry?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean adult film was easy because I
Speaker 4: got too craft sets and pick wardrobe and design things
Speaker 4: that I still take pride in when I get to
Speaker 4: go back and look at them. But in this sport space,
Speaker 4: you know, I brought in a little bit more style.
Speaker 4: I remember in twenty thirteen my first couple conventions, I
Speaker 4: was one of two women. That's it, a couple hundred
Speaker 4: men all wearing like flannel shirts and dockers, and I
Speaker 4: was like, we gotta snazz this up a bit, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, We gotta wear some nice shoes.
Speaker 4: And now I've got a bunch of girlfriends in the
Speaker 4: sports space and we're all dressed and it's brought this
Speaker 4: different level. And even photos now you'll see like, oh,
Speaker 4: one of you guys.
Speaker 3: Decided not to wear a flannel shirt. Just bring in
Speaker 3: a little bit of.
Speaker 1: A swag down, you know, colors on like that.
Speaker 4: Just to break it up a bit, but so you just,
Speaker 4: you know, I just to be sure that I add
Speaker 4: that little spark of softness and the attention to detail.
Speaker 2: Love that. In your opinion, what are some biggest misconceptions
Speaker 2: about women in the industries.
Speaker 4: I got a message just OnlyFans where a guy just
Speaker 4: blatantly asked if I would give a random fan a
Speaker 4: hand job because he thought it would be hot.
Speaker 1: You mean, you don't do that just a random people.
Speaker 4: We get that you know us, but they're strangers, man.
Speaker 4: And like the assumption of the access. It's so different
Speaker 4: than when you had to go into a store and
Speaker 4: rent a VHS or buy a VHS walk out with
Speaker 4: a brown bag. I remember guys recognizing me at the
Speaker 4: mall during that era, and they would literally look at
Speaker 4: you and be embarrassed that they recommend that recognized you.
Speaker 1: And they would be like they're in their brown paper
Speaker 1: bag and be like yeah.
Speaker 4: And now the access because it's right here, has changed that.
Speaker 4: And everyone thinks everyone is obtainable, and everyone thinks they
Speaker 4: deserve a shot. And for every single guy that says, well,
Speaker 4: you only make the shows, you shoot, you know, we
Speaker 4: become a backboard, and I think it's so toxic for
Speaker 4: everyone's mental health. I think this constant interaction of remind
Speaker 4: being us how little you think of us, because you
Speaker 4: think that little of us because you think you deserve
Speaker 4: a hand job as a stranger, just because I'm Lisa,
Speaker 4: And it's so fucked up. And so I think that
Speaker 4: that's a big miscontent to the access and the fact
Speaker 4: that we have done enough. There's so little gratitude. I
Speaker 4: write back to people all the time, all the scenes
Speaker 4: I did, and now because I don't want you calling
Speaker 4: me mommy, you're calling me.
Speaker 2: The C word, Like, so, how do you deal with
Speaker 2: with those encounters like you said, you know last night,
Speaker 2: you know, you're running your page and like you're having
Speaker 2: a great time and someone spews those things, and does
Speaker 2: it take you in a.
Speaker 1: Place to you fire back?
Speaker 4: Do you?
Speaker 2: How do you navigate those situations because it is such
Speaker 2: a big misconception that you can just ask for.
Speaker 4: Something and you will receive I fire back, okay, because
Speaker 4: usually it's new people. Because once your people know you,
Speaker 4: they know you, and these are the people that are
Speaker 4: gonna ask for a ton of shit and cancel in
Speaker 4: a month. They might even charge back, which infuriates me.
Speaker 4: If you could charge back on Master, that should not
Speaker 4: even be available. But it drives me nuts. I go
Speaker 4: to my chargebacks once we just get my shit going
Speaker 4: before I go to the gym, because that'll put me
Speaker 4: on the peloton for like ninety that's.
Speaker 2: Your pre workout.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's my free workout. Some people do a shot
Speaker 4: of something. I'm gonna go on my chargebacks on Olivans.
Speaker 4: I strike back in a sense of first, I will
Speaker 4: explain that that's not how we communicate here. I can
Speaker 4: offer the option to cancel you, permanently, block you, and
Speaker 4: refund you your money that we will never have this
Speaker 4: interaction again. But I also want them to understand that
Speaker 4: we are still human beings and it doesn't just bum
Speaker 4: me out for me, it bumms me out for younger performers.
Speaker 4: We got to live a great deal of our lives
Speaker 4: without this shit. And though it is extra money, it's
Speaker 4: a pain in the fucking ass.
Speaker 2: It is because I feel like it's a different way
Speaker 2: of like, you know, everything obviously evolves with time and
Speaker 2: like technology and things like that, but it is like
Speaker 2: it kind of dehumanizes us a little bit, which is
Speaker 2: kind of weird to think because it's so much supposed
Speaker 2: to be more humanizing in an experience, But I think
Speaker 2: that it does show how people society, how you're spoken to.
Speaker 2: But I also think also in generational like how like
Speaker 2: chivalry is dead, Like how it's so easy for even
Speaker 2: like grown men to say this where it's like, if
Speaker 2: I was on the street, would you talk to me
Speaker 2: like that? And the answer now is yes because people
Speaker 2: accept that behavior, you know what I mean. And so
Speaker 2: it's like if you don't kind of correct and be
Speaker 2: like kind of teach them how to treat us, then
Speaker 2: it just becomes so reckless and a situation.
Speaker 4: Gold men in my building elevator for not letting women
Speaker 4: walk out first. Oh no, hockey show cue back there.
Speaker 4: I am a woman and I will go first. Okay.
Speaker 4: I might also get punched in the face and the
Speaker 4: city said is a thing, but I heard, Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: that's happening right now. But it's important now. I also
Speaker 4: don't ask me anything on my page when I'm not traveling.
Speaker 3: I do it every Friday at seven pm. No nudity,
Speaker 3: no nothing.
Speaker 4: But it's just an't asked me anything, and I cannot
Speaker 4: believe the lack of understanding when it comes to just dating.
Speaker 4: How do you enter a room?
Speaker 3: How do you start speaking to a woman?
Speaker 4: What's the most important things? And I keep telling them, like,
Speaker 4: try to remember five things she says each time you
Speaker 4: talk to her, because those are going to be important things,
Speaker 4: whether it was her favorite flowers, her best friend's name,
Speaker 4: you know, where's she likes to go on vacation. These
Speaker 4: are now conversation starters for later. And I realize that
Speaker 4: I'm speaking to them and this is so shocking that
Speaker 4: this is how you get actually, but that's why I.
Speaker 1: Am so I mean even dating in general, like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So it's like put that into a thing after, you know,
Speaker 2: being retired in you know, a different space of men now,
Speaker 2: but they still see you as Lisa Ann.
Speaker 1: Is it difficult to date? Are you dating? Do you
Speaker 1: go on dating apps?
Speaker 4: I could never go on a dating app. That is
Speaker 4: just obscene.
Speaker 2: So if there's one out there right now, you're being catfish,
Speaker 2: ye cannot you know?
Speaker 4: I lives and guys are like I love you, I
Speaker 4: love you, I love you, and like you are a
Speaker 4: mark in wrestling, we call you a mark. But what's
Speaker 4: going to happen now is a fake Lisa is going
Speaker 4: to hit you, and you're gonna believe it because you
Speaker 4: believe that we should be together. And then you're going
Speaker 4: to spend money and then you were to find me again,
Speaker 4: and then you're gonna believe it on me, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: no other friend.
Speaker 2: Then there's to show you a fake idea that has
Speaker 2: your name but somebody else is a stignature on it,
Speaker 2: or you're an They think like and you're just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: but this is you, and they oh, No, dating is tricky.
Speaker 4: I just ended a almost fourteen year somewhat casual, serious
Speaker 4: at times relationship because I realized this is just not
Speaker 4: going anywhere, and it's not rustling, and it's it's it's
Speaker 4: at a stalemate, right, and it wasn't consistent.
Speaker 3: Fourteen years that's a long time. It's a long time.
Speaker 2: This is where when we say, like a civilian, someone
Speaker 2: not in the industry, like something, okay, yep, okay, but
Speaker 2: he never lived okay with what you did, who you
Speaker 2: were in the times of what those were, so everything
Speaker 2: that was all great.
Speaker 4: That was what made me stay with him the longest, okay,
Speaker 4: was just that he had no qualms at all. He
Speaker 4: just I was who I was.
Speaker 1: I was a self starling. And that's some times for us,
Speaker 1: It's like we.
Speaker 2: Had that whole compassionate somebody understanding what we really do
Speaker 2: and I'm saying that sex could be just sex and
Speaker 2: not something that's an emotional aspect in our work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then being insecure whatever wherever their head goes.
Speaker 4: The fact in matter is we are self made women
Speaker 4: and we did a job that was perfectly legal, and
Speaker 4: because of our job, we employed other people who also
Speaker 4: got to make money. We are our own ecosphere as
Speaker 4: a brand, yes, and so meeting somebody to understands that
Speaker 4: and celebrates that is difficult. That's what made me stay.
Speaker 4: But right now I'm I'm starting through some friends. You know,
Speaker 4: I won't meet a stranger. We can't do that, Okay,
Speaker 4: I have to meet a friend through a friend through
Speaker 4: a friend. That's the best way. It's much easier in
Speaker 4: New York because you can be casual and just meet someone.
Speaker 4: You don't have to go to their place. They're not
Speaker 4: going to your place. You just meet them for a walk. Right,
Speaker 4: It's easier. So I've been traveling a bit, but now
Speaker 4: I get to be home for about a month that
Speaker 4: I try not to start these things before I'm getting
Speaker 4: ready to leave, because I don't need the bullshit when
Speaker 4: I'm gone. I don't want to be texting somebody bothers.
Speaker 2: Men.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want to texting friends?
Speaker 4: No, no, you don't. I don't want to be building
Speaker 4: my relationship while I'm in a hotel in Chicago. Okay. So,
Speaker 4: but now I have a couple of people that I'm
Speaker 4: interested in just speaking out and going out with them
Speaker 4: and seeing how it goes.
Speaker 2: So have you put feelers in those sens, Sara, or
Speaker 2: are they coming out like suitors for you? Do you
Speaker 2: like go in someone's dmyth at me?
Speaker 4: Okay? But through the right people. Okay, they're smart.
Speaker 2: There's some kind of checklist that's being checked. Oh you're like, okay,
Speaker 2: you vetted this one. Yeah, you're you're were on this level,
Speaker 2: and now we can make you serious or not?
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, yeah, because of course you know, first and
Speaker 4: foremost you must be single.
Speaker 3: That's another thing.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of men that would assume that we
Speaker 4: would be okay being with being someone's side bitch. I'm
Speaker 4: nobody's side bitch. Yeah, yeah, you're not either. Yeah, so
Speaker 4: that's not happening. But it's also there's a thought that
Speaker 4: we always have when something will make our man uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: When it would be and when I know, I went
Speaker 3: through this when I was married.
Speaker 4: Because I was very insecure. I'm a totally different person
Speaker 4: now than I was then, but I used to be
Speaker 4: worried that what he was on.
Speaker 3: A golf course and his friends would crack jokes about.
Speaker 4: Me because you know, eyes are mean mm hmm, you know,
Speaker 4: and we were young, and so that constant thing in
Speaker 4: the back of your mind can make you very insecure.
Speaker 4: You need to not feel that with somebody. And that's tough, yeah,
Speaker 4: because when a guy gets the fight with you, what's
Speaker 4: the first thing he brings up?
Speaker 2: You're well, depending on who they are, but usually the
Speaker 2: business well you sectic, yeah, I did, so no feelings
Speaker 2: are coming out here. So it's yeah, for sure, it's
Speaker 2: definitely tricky. That's why I feel like navigating really and
Speaker 2: being in a space in your life where you know
Speaker 2: what you want, you know what you've been through, you
Speaker 2: know that you don't want to do those things again,
Speaker 2: And even if it's as simple as saying I don't
Speaker 2: want to start any kind of anything bef while I'm
Speaker 2: in a hotel, because I know that doesn't serve me
Speaker 2: and where my purpose is at this point where it's like,
Speaker 2: let me be either be all in or all out yep.
Speaker 2: And so it's one of those are you looking more
Speaker 2: for something serious now that you've got out of a
Speaker 2: fourteen year relationship on and off or are you looking
Speaker 2: more for situationships?
Speaker 4: I have situationships that I've held on to in between
Speaker 4: the bouts of this almost fourteen years, and I'm asking
Speaker 4: myself question. This year, I decided that I wasn't going
Speaker 4: to decide am I looking for a relationship or not,
Speaker 4: because I've never really visualized what I want a relationship
Speaker 4: for me to look like. So I've kind of been
Speaker 4: taking a little bit of time every day to journal
Speaker 4: that of like, I wouldn't be I would be fine
Speaker 4: with somebody that has to travel for work because I
Speaker 4: am fiercely independent and I do like a lot of
Speaker 4: alone time. Yeah, I don't know if I could be
Speaker 4: with a complete routine, constantly together twenty four to seven situation.
Speaker 4: And I do a lot of work from home, so
Speaker 4: other than my two days a week in studio, there's
Speaker 4: a month I'm not going into studio, I'm going to
Speaker 4: be with this person. Are they working at home? So
Speaker 4: I've been thinking about that and I think at my age,
Speaker 4: you know, I turn fifty two in May, it's difficult
Speaker 4: to meet people that have also been no children. And
Speaker 4: it's not that I'm opposed, but it does make things complicated.
Speaker 2: But those are your boundaries, I feel like, and those
Speaker 2: are you know, important, those are the.
Speaker 3: Journal things right now where it's like, you know, you.
Speaker 2: Have to really be at the you know, intentional about
Speaker 2: the people that you want in your life. Because again
Speaker 2: it's like in a sense, like me tomorrow, I've never
Speaker 2: promised all those things, but it's like life's you know,
Speaker 2: life is lifing for everybody and you can't take those
Speaker 2: years back and whatever.
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, you're a strong, independent woman.
Speaker 2: But also sometimes I think for myself and like, when
Speaker 2: I see you in a lot of ways, it mirrors
Speaker 2: like you're the reflection of your growth of where you
Speaker 2: or your businesses and how we navigate things. And that's
Speaker 2: why I think it's easy to speak to on that level,
Speaker 2: is that we are so used to doing it on
Speaker 2: our own and we don't have and never felt comfortable
Speaker 2: to be in our feminine to not be the alpha,
Speaker 2: because alpha doesn't mean necessarily that we're losing control, but
Speaker 2: it means that we have more control of certain things
Speaker 2: that I think now is like the times to be
Speaker 2: honest with yourself and sit with those thoughts and what
Speaker 2: are my standards? What are my requirements?
Speaker 1: What are my boundaries?
Speaker 2: Because I myself too is like I wanted a relationship
Speaker 2: for so long, but it's like, well, what do you
Speaker 2: want in a relationship?
Speaker 1: I couldn't answer that question master myself two years ago.
Speaker 1: I couldn't answer that question.
Speaker 2: But I wanted this relationship and not in a person
Speaker 2: or anything, but just this relationships. And so until I
Speaker 2: sat down and really started in my thoughts of like
Speaker 2: why do I choose partners that are in the past,
Speaker 2: And maybe that's like your fourteen relationship. Why it stayed
Speaker 2: is because there was some kind of security that made
Speaker 2: it simp that you could fall back on those things.
Speaker 2: But being honest with ourselves and I'm internally really being
Speaker 2: truthful of what we want and what we won't accept
Speaker 2: any longer in this point of our lives.
Speaker 4: And it's great to actually not be in a rush
Speaker 4: and not be you know, denying the thoughts, but thinking
Speaker 4: about them and really putting them down. Journaling them has
Speaker 4: been really interesting to me because it's also helped me
Speaker 4: when I spend time with my other friends that are
Speaker 4: married and things that I love about their marriage, and
Speaker 4: like how I visualize that for them, And I'm like,
Speaker 4: you know, that's a very fascinating important thing. Like my
Speaker 4: best friends they love dogs, and one of their big
Speaker 4: connections is always making sure they're out twice a day
Speaker 4: walking their dogs together, and that's their connection time when
Speaker 4: they go out and do their own things.
Speaker 1: So little things, for sure.
Speaker 2: I think that's also a big important thing to see
Speaker 2: other relationships and emulate because I think that a lot
Speaker 2: of us didn't have those things too, Like growing up,
Speaker 2: we didn't see those, you know, examples of those types
Speaker 2: of things. So it's like, now that you attached yourself
Speaker 2: to people that are your family and friends, you can
Speaker 2: kind of see the loving nature of what real love
Speaker 2: in a sense looks like can you share an unexpected,
Speaker 2: like behind the scenes story in your adult career that
Speaker 2: people are still today shocked when you tell them these things?
Speaker 4: I think a good one is why I cut bangs. Okay,
Speaker 4: you can see this scar above my nose barely now
Speaker 4: because it's healed so nicely and well. But I had
Speaker 4: an offset sex injury. You know you're not gonna believe
Speaker 4: about that. And I only told this story in my book.
Speaker 3: Okay, because you assume the whole world read your book.
Speaker 3: You think people know.
Speaker 4: Most people are not going to know this.
Speaker 1: And now we were to lead to the book landed me, Palin,
Speaker 1: So I'm.
Speaker 4: Glad whose accident happened. You did.
Speaker 2: The box over together.
Speaker 4: So I'm having unprotected sex, which is something I never did,
Speaker 4: and I never wanted you because I was working a
Speaker 4: lot of that time. You don't want to show up
Speaker 4: on it. You don't want to affect anybody on set.
Speaker 4: But whatever, and he was like, I'm gonna pull out,
Speaker 4: and if he started to come too early, and he
Speaker 4: pushed me so hard up that I flew into the
Speaker 4: wooden headboard on my bed and just split my face open.
Speaker 4: And when you cut your head, shits, gosh, you ever
Speaker 4: wear right And right away I looked at him and
Speaker 4: I'm like, you need to get the fuck out of
Speaker 4: my face, Like I'm gonna deal with this on my own.
Speaker 4: We can't talk right now. So it was up a
Speaker 4: boil day weekend.
Speaker 3: I knew I couldn't reach a plastic surgeon.
Speaker 2: I knew I had to deal with this.
Speaker 4: I drove myself down to the CVS in the corner
Speaker 4: of Laurel Canyon and Belie, your face fucking blood all
Speaker 4: over me. I went into this store. I was like
Speaker 4: some sixteen year old kid working there. I went around,
Speaker 4: I got a basket, I grabbed him. I had grabbed
Speaker 4: stripper ones. You know how you always have a thing
Speaker 4: and you're like in your house, like Starbucks is up
Speaker 4: a garbage bag of just once. So I grabbed all
Speaker 4: these ones before I left. I'm bloody, and I said, dude,
Speaker 4: I'm giving you all this money, but I need you
Speaker 4: to lay me down and butter flat out my face.
Speaker 4: So this is what we're gonna do. So he laid
Speaker 4: me down in the middle of the CBS. Alcohol clean
Speaker 4: in the CBS.
Speaker 2: No stranger, I thought, you meant the guy who like
Speaker 2: knocked you into thele to go.
Speaker 4: I couldn't even face him. This is my this is
Speaker 4: my face, this is my career.
Speaker 3: You're a fucking idiot, and I'm why was fucking you,
Speaker 3: and did you be in.
Speaker 4: Front of me for one more minute? It might get
Speaker 4: me a restics, I might work you. No, I made
Speaker 4: him leaving. He was like, should I be? Like, yeah,
Speaker 4: did he come? I can't even remember that part.
Speaker 2: The thing was so extreme.
Speaker 3: This kid cleaned me up though, and abandoned me.
Speaker 4: And then I went to a plastic surgeon after the holiday,
Speaker 4: and the surgeon said to me, well, you have two choices.
Speaker 4: He's like, because it started to heal, it could be infected,
Speaker 4: so I can't put you under. And he's like, but
Speaker 4: I could do the surgery today a week And I
Speaker 4: laid there for four fucking hours with this little tent
Speaker 4: of things covering my eyes, listening to this plastic surgeon
Speaker 4: his assistant popping up my face, the sweating. I drove
Speaker 4: myself home in traps, like yeah, something a girl, you know.
Speaker 4: But then I I called my hair just the first
Speaker 4: thing girls got to get some banks on my face.
Speaker 2: Well it was good. You can't say it's very verrely,
Speaker 2: very minor thing, but I mean that is a very great,
Speaker 2: tragic story. I mean, I'm sure you're still that. You're like,
Speaker 2: why did I just relive that?
Speaker 4: But the banks got me Palin, so people would have
Speaker 4: ever looked at me like Sarah Palin. Yes, I had glasses,
Speaker 4: but what if I never had the bangs? Banks were
Speaker 4: really the clencher.
Speaker 1: I changed through and things happened for a reason.
Speaker 2: So maybe it was destined for you to get your
Speaker 2: discuss open so you could get bangs. And then I
Speaker 2: became Miss California and it was the whole sash the sash.
Speaker 2: Recently I saw on your cat I think, so are
Speaker 2: you reposted something that someone they They said something about
Speaker 2: the Hustler movie and I.
Speaker 1: Was like, that's the movie we were in. I was like,
Speaker 1: I was, we were in mister President's often.
Speaker 4: Yeah we were, We sure were. But yes, tragic story
Speaker 4: but really had poppy ending.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure there's a lot of fun filled more
Speaker 2: stories like that in her book. So you definitely should
Speaker 2: go check it out because that one's in the book.
Speaker 2: What's the most unexpected lesson you learned during your time
Speaker 2: in the adult industry? How many years total were you?
Speaker 2: Thirty years total? Okay, twenty five?
Speaker 4: About years acted doing hardcore scenes because I took a
Speaker 4: little break. I didn't do hard core scenes when I
Speaker 4: was married, you know, I think one of the things
Speaker 4: that I learned was there are definitely different qualities in
Speaker 4: people that make them more susceptible to make bad decisions.
Speaker 4: And I at times right now recently, and I think
Speaker 4: this is just an old lady thing, but I've been
Speaker 4: having a little bit of weirdly survivor's guilt of like
Speaker 4: wondering why everybody doesn't do better and how bad things
Speaker 4: are still happening, and not just with young girls, but
Speaker 4: with women our age and older, you know, like how
Speaker 4: their lives haven't improved and they didn't save their money,
Speaker 4: and like the business really showed me that some of
Speaker 4: the greatest people, the nicest, sweetest, kindest people, can still
Speaker 4: have that thing inside them that makes them either have
Speaker 4: an addictive personality and make bad choices, or be destructive
Speaker 4: with their dating habits, or be destructive with their money.
Speaker 4: And I think that really was a huge lesson to me,
Speaker 4: like to never judge people because you don't know how
Speaker 4: somebody got there and why it is they can't say
Speaker 4: no to that one thing they know is not good
Speaker 4: for them.
Speaker 2: For sure, I think that you know, everyone has their
Speaker 2: own demons of things. It's just how we I think,
Speaker 2: you know, when it comes to like the whys. I
Speaker 2: think for myself, it's coming to where it's like people
Speaker 2: will you can only meet people where they're at, and
Speaker 2: just because you've done the work, or I've done the work,
Speaker 2: or whoever does work, whatever, there's always going to be
Speaker 2: more work. But people sometimes will never reach the view
Speaker 2: or vision of what you have because people just don't
Speaker 2: think that way. And so I think then also it's
Speaker 2: because when you really look with thin it's scary, it's
Speaker 2: not easy. It's you know, it's the because you have
Speaker 2: to start knowing why, what are your whys?
Speaker 1: And why do you choose those things?
Speaker 2: I think that's why people tend to shy away from
Speaker 2: it is because it's not easy.
Speaker 1: Doing the work isn't easy.
Speaker 4: And then you also have to look back on the
Speaker 4: mistakes you already made, which we've all made mistakes. I'm
Speaker 4: never saying that I'm perfect, but I did watch so
Speaker 4: many people that I loved so much just continue to
Speaker 4: abuse their bodies or continue to do bad things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like you want to shake that, but
Speaker 2: it's like they can't only help themselves.
Speaker 1: When they're out there. What's the worst advice you've ever gotten?
Speaker 4: I remember when I first got into the industry, I
Speaker 4: was told if I did interracial it would ruin my career.
Speaker 4: That's the worst advice I ever gone.
Speaker 1: Because who told you this advice?
Speaker 4: This was you know, when I first started my first
Speaker 4: two years in the business, contract roles were not allowed
Speaker 4: to do interracial and so it was that simple, okay.
Speaker 4: And I remember asking why, like we had just organized
Speaker 4: you know, back then, you got paid more for facial
Speaker 4: cum shots. It's like in your contract would be okay,
Speaker 4: you're gonna hear's where all the cum shots are going
Speaker 4: to land, like out of your twelve movies? Nice? And
Speaker 4: it was liked so and I remember sitting at this
Speaker 4: desk with Steve Carmelins going, we just organized where all
Speaker 4: the cum shots are going, but you're gonna tell tell
Speaker 4: me the color of the skin of somebody that can
Speaker 4: or cannot work with and he goes, it's just the
Speaker 4: cable doesn't buy it. So once I was done with
Speaker 4: that contract and I went out on my own and
Speaker 4: started talking to other people. Other people were telling me,
Speaker 4: even our dance agents were like, don't do it, it'll
Speaker 4: ruin your career.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I don't fucking get you people.
Speaker 4: It's something I want to do. Yeah, and it's something
Speaker 4: that I also think is so beautiful to shoot. I
Speaker 4: love the contrast of the skin tones, you know, I
Speaker 4: just love that artistically, so I always just wanted to
Speaker 4: see it. But yeah, a lot of people told me,
Speaker 4: and then it's been neat for me to help young
Speaker 4: people in the industry who are getting that same advice,
Speaker 4: and I'm able to say them like you should have
Speaker 4: said with who you want.
Speaker 2: To for sure, it's a lot of shit stigma, like people,
Speaker 2: you know, especially outside people looking in. It's like, especially myself,
Speaker 2: I got a lot of ridicule because those things.
Speaker 4: But it's like, you don't know the business.
Speaker 2: Our business within itself has a lot of racist connotations whatever.
Speaker 2: And it's not based off of really your choice, which
Speaker 2: it should be, because you're guided to certain things of
Speaker 2: when you can and cannot do things or shouldn't do things,
Speaker 2: or advise it those But it's like the ins and
Speaker 2: out is it's not. It's very ugly, Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2: Where it's like at the end of the day, it's
Speaker 2: like we're choosing to fuck on camera. Let you do
Speaker 2: what you want to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, be free.
Speaker 2: Is there what would you say, like the difference is
Speaker 2: when you first started in the industry and now like
Speaker 2: advocating for like the industry, and how are the women
Speaker 2: have kind of led Like how different is it?
Speaker 4: My gosh? You know. One of the reasons why I
Speaker 4: love going to.
Speaker 3: Exotica is I get to see Christy Canyon.
Speaker 4: You know, I met her when I was eighteen and
Speaker 4: I was a house girl at Owl's named Sunshine. Okay.
Speaker 4: I was just embarking on the understanding that feature dancers
Speaker 4: were actually a gig and that and she has stayed
Speaker 4: exactly the same. She would let me sit on the
Speaker 4: dirty couch in the dress room at Owls and just
Speaker 4: ask her all these questions about the business. It felt
Speaker 4: like more of a family before the internet, okay. And
Speaker 4: it felt like the business was afraid in the nineties
Speaker 4: that the girls would leave. They always were worried. There
Speaker 4: wasn't thousands of women coming into the industry, so they
Speaker 4: were always worried you were gonna leave. They always wanted
Speaker 4: to do happy. We still want you leave. You know,
Speaker 4: you can do whatever you want. You don't have to
Speaker 4: shoot with anybody you don't want to do. You like this,
Speaker 4: what do you want to eat. I just felt like.
Speaker 3: I was a star and then you just became a worker.
Speaker 4: And like when the term sex worker happened, that's truly
Speaker 4: what I felt like we became. We stopped being stars
Speaker 4: and turned into sex workers, which reminds me of just
Speaker 4: being in a sweatshop selling sewing Levi's like, it's such
Speaker 4: a you know, sterilized term for an adult star or performer.
Speaker 4: But I just love that intimacy, that family. Everyone really
Speaker 4: looked out for each other. And then it just became
Speaker 4: so big so fast because the Internet, I think, either
Speaker 4: so many people that you don't even know, and you're like,
Speaker 4: how could I not know people in this little space
Speaker 4: that we're in a little space.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's definitely evolved everybody, everybody's inside.
Speaker 2: What sparked your interest in podcasting and what are some
Speaker 2: of the topics that you explore on your on your show.
Speaker 3: I'm an avid listener of all kinds of things.
Speaker 4: I could listen to sports radio twelve hours a day,
Speaker 4: and I can watch the same shows on my television,
Speaker 4: but I would rather listen.
Speaker 1: And you mass reins to the sports commentating. There's not
Speaker 1: any I'm just.
Speaker 4: Visualizing when I think it's going on in studio, I'm
Speaker 4: visualizing the play that they're playing and talking about that.
Speaker 4: I know, I watched it. I watched the game.
Speaker 2: Into sports. It's not like a facadeer, no, like you know,
Speaker 2: you're into like the statistics, So what's going on?
Speaker 4: I mean, I was up the sporting six am to
Speaker 4: start writing draft notes because I'm analyzing the drafts happening
Speaker 4: to you know. No, no, I'm into it. And so
Speaker 4: what I started to realize was I loved good broadcast.
Speaker 4: And then once podcasts really started to pop up and
Speaker 4: I wanted to listen to it on a podcast, I realized, Wow,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of shitty podcasts, like while not everybody
Speaker 4: is a good communicator. Luckily Serious Exam put me through
Speaker 4: classes nice and so I got to learn a lot
Speaker 4: more about broadcast. I got to go into a lot
Speaker 4: more studios and just really learn about the cadence of it,
Speaker 4: the conversation, the just ability to be a wordsmith. You know,
Speaker 4: I can listen to Greenie and Hembo his guy that
Speaker 4: he's so brilliant, he will not the same adjective in
Speaker 4: a week, Like his vocabulary is so intense. That's what
Speaker 4: really made me. I love the skill to communicate. I
Speaker 4: love sharing a story with enthusiasm and feeling that somebody
Speaker 4: listening might be visualizing your excitement and feeling that escape.
Speaker 1: From their own reality.
Speaker 4: I like that and your show what if You're called
Speaker 4: lisaan experience, the Lease and experience, I cover everything. I
Speaker 4: bring in some stars from the industry. I love to
Speaker 4: read books and then reach out to the authors and
Speaker 4: get them all my podcasts for my favorite things to do.
Speaker 4: And I have a lot of publishers now that are
Speaker 4: sending me books to read to get them like a
Speaker 4: book club, and it forces me because it gives me
Speaker 4: a thing where I'm like, huh, I'm going to lay
Speaker 4: down and read for ten hours today because I want
Speaker 4: to get through this book and nobody can tell me
Speaker 4: any different because this is work. Yeah, I am working research,
Speaker 4: and I want to do a good interview with their author, right,
Speaker 4: So authors all kinds of wellness experts and some influencers.
Speaker 2: Any advice for entrepreneurs looking to build their brand beyond
Speaker 2: the main field their main fields?
Speaker 4: Yeah, really start to network out. I think the most
Speaker 4: important thing is to find that space where you'd like
Speaker 4: to be in next and start to follow a lot
Speaker 4: of people in that space, start to really lean in.
Speaker 4: If they have a blog that comes out daily, which
Speaker 4: I did. I get about one hundred and fifty emails
Speaker 4: a day that are just things that I could read
Speaker 4: that are going on today in the sports world. Sign
Speaker 4: up for those blogs, start to engage. Also, start conversation
Speaker 4: outside of your space with those people in that space,
Speaker 4: and you'll find that you're feeling welcomed and you understood.
Speaker 4: You'll learn through them, You'll see what works and what
Speaker 4: doesn't work, and you'll already have a little bit of
Speaker 4: a launch pack. You'll feel that you already know people
Speaker 4: even though you only emo them online. You're still going
Speaker 4: to have some sort of a oh, there's these trade
Speaker 4: shows that go on. Oh there's this event that happens.
Speaker 4: So this is speaking engagement. Just start to watch it.
Speaker 4: I watch yourselves in the world. Yeah. I watched the
Speaker 4: Sports World for my whole life before I started doing this.
Speaker 4: And you know, when I would go on the road
Speaker 4: in feature Dance, I always wanted to do radio. When
Speaker 4: they would let you go in and do the show,
Speaker 4: and they would always say we got a twenty minute spot,
Speaker 4: Like I'm being there for an hour.
Speaker 3: I would memorize all the players on their teams.
Speaker 4: So if it was football, hockey, whatever it was, whatever
Speaker 4: season it was, I memorize their players, the top five
Speaker 4: scorers stat and I would go in there and just
Speaker 4: start just spew out these stats and it would keep
Speaker 4: me in there for an hour. But it made me
Speaker 4: better host because it showed me that excitement.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the knowledge of it, you know, and
Speaker 2: I think articulating that and from a female standpoints too,
Speaker 2: I think, and it kind of gives more power behind
Speaker 2: your message. What philanthropic I can't even talk. I wish
Speaker 2: I could smoke weed right now. Are you into, like
Speaker 2: any philanthropic? So, are you like something close to your
Speaker 2: heart that you have to be that you kind of
Speaker 2: are partaking in right now or that you kind of
Speaker 2: like did more of the last couple of years.
Speaker 4: I do many Every year. I do a walk to
Speaker 4: end Alzheimer's in Huntington Beach, California, in November. I've been
Speaker 4: doing that since twenty sixteen. I added on a twenty
Speaker 4: four hour walk in New York City for suicide prevention.
Speaker 4: I found that's been a really powerful I love things
Speaker 4: where I can actually be engaged with other people. That
Speaker 4: have been directly affected by these causes. And I'm doing
Speaker 4: some work for a Planned Parenthood, a Temple division where
Speaker 4: I was just able to raise enough money thanks to
Speaker 4: Chatterbate who offered to pay me for an interview at
Speaker 4: EXATAGA and I said, I won't take the money, but
Speaker 4: will you donate it to this charity for me? And
Speaker 4: they said yes, and we'll match it, and I said, okay,
Speaker 4: I'll match it. So now they're going to have two
Speaker 4: vending machines on campus with contraceptives as well as plan Deephils.
Speaker 1: So big great.
Speaker 4: So I do that. I do a lot of work
Speaker 4: for Blessings in a Backpack. That's what I do for
Speaker 4: my birthday every year in Christmas, Blessings in a Backpack
Speaker 4: helps kids that are on the school lunch program go
Speaker 4: home with a book bag of food for every weekend.
Speaker 4: And to think that there's kids in the US that
Speaker 4: have food insecurity is just rattling. When you're looking at
Speaker 4: social media, we all have what we want, you know,
Speaker 4: So I try to. The goal is always to raise
Speaker 4: one hundred thousand dollars a year for other causes.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: What's the You travel a lot, You've gone to a
Speaker 2: lot of places done that. We're just for work, but
Speaker 2: just you know, for your personal pleasure as well. What's
Speaker 2: the most fascinating place that you've encountered.
Speaker 4: I love Italy. My heart is in Italy, but when
Speaker 4: it comes to fat man in Italy, it's Switzerland.
Speaker 1: Ion's your man in Italy he might be.
Speaker 4: So you know, I did start a business. I partner
Speaker 4: with a winery in Italy, so I now have a
Speaker 4: reason and defeat. Yeah, now I have roots and going
Speaker 4: over there regularly because I do believe it of going.
Speaker 2: To me to many's probably going to be a manifesto,
Speaker 2: so you put that on the air, you know.
Speaker 4: But what I love about Italy is just the pace
Speaker 4: of life. People are so different. Nowhere in public do
Speaker 4: you see someone touching their phone. Everybody is living in
Speaker 4: the moment that they're in at that time, and then
Speaker 4: when they want to use their phone, they like go home.
Speaker 4: No one has good Wi Fi walking around either, which
Speaker 4: I think limits people from doing the scrolling. But when
Speaker 4: you come back after being in Italy for a week
Speaker 4: or two, and you come back, you realize everyone's just
Speaker 4: walking down the street like this, whereas being well, you
Speaker 4: were able to look at everyone's faces and see what
Speaker 4: they look like. We don't know what people anymore not
Speaker 4: look yup.
Speaker 2: So I think Italy is just it's on my bucket list.
Speaker 2: I definitely have plans to be in Italy. I think
Speaker 2: my husband may be in Italy. Okay, let's see, how
Speaker 2: do you stay committed to your fitness routine and like
Speaker 2: you know your wellness when you're on the road and
Speaker 2: traveling and having such an extensive schedule.
Speaker 4: It's a bitch, right, it really is. It is such
Speaker 4: a bitch. Sometimes I say to myself, you should just
Speaker 4: train hard like an athlete, and then when you won
Speaker 4: the road, just take those as your off days. But
Speaker 4: that doesn't work because you feel sluggish. I started taking
Speaker 4: yoga at my building in the city, which has helped
Speaker 4: me learn moves. Yoga's the easiest thing to do in
Speaker 4: a hotel room. Okay, So now, no matter what, no
Speaker 4: matter what, I just wake up and I start with
Speaker 4: just a twenty minute stretch. Then if I feel like
Speaker 4: working out, I can go to the hotel gym, or
Speaker 4: I can always just bang out fifty squads, fifty pushups,
Speaker 4: fifty lunches in the hotel room and be done with it.
Speaker 4: You know. It's like sometimes like at Exotica, I don't
Speaker 4: want to leave the room and go into the gym
Speaker 4: and run into.
Speaker 2: A bunch of people when you're your time alone, helone,
Speaker 2: no makeup, no nothing, So I'll do it in the
Speaker 2: hotel room, right.
Speaker 4: But I'm making you.
Speaker 2: Should we be looking for a yoga tape from Lisahetan soon.
Speaker 4: I also travel with bands.
Speaker 2: I do that too. That's at least sometimes I don't
Speaker 2: ever get out of the bag. But there that's my problem.
Speaker 2: I always bring the stuff the intention maybe the first
Speaker 2: day and then it's like that's a tough one for me.
Speaker 2: That's why. It's just you know, I try to do
Speaker 2: it as much as I can while I'm home and
Speaker 2: so I can balance my.
Speaker 1: Life in that sense.
Speaker 2: All right, So you said you like to read books
Speaker 2: and you have authors and things like that. Is there
Speaker 2: a book that's kind of made you, like, made you
Speaker 2: change your perspective on life or sticks out more than
Speaker 2: the other maybe read more often or maybe multiple times.
Speaker 4: Oh, there's there's a couple. The whole series of The
Speaker 4: Secret is a game changer too. I love The Secret.
Speaker 4: Ronda Byrne just a wonderful human being who now when
Speaker 4: she releases something new, sends me autograph copies and I
Speaker 4: get the mid advanced. You're just like the great just
Speaker 4: because I fanned out so hard and thanked her.
Speaker 1: But that's what I love about our platform.
Speaker 2: Sometimes at some times we don't realize our fans can
Speaker 2: become fans of us vice versa what it is, and
Speaker 2: then you get to share this whole other.
Speaker 1: Yeah thoughts.
Speaker 4: And then the Minimalists who I just saw yesterday to
Speaker 4: do a revisit on their podcast, their documentary The Minimalists
Speaker 4: on Netflix, and then reading all of their books what
Speaker 4: remains love people use things. The opposite never works, Like
Speaker 4: their message changed my life and made me get rid
Speaker 4: of seventy five percent of my belongings and moved from
Speaker 4: four thousand square feet to less than a thousand square feet,
Speaker 4: Like it made me deliberately take me two years to
Speaker 4: do that. Yeah, it's cause you know, you accumulate stuff,
Speaker 4: especially in the business, and you hold on to stuff.
Speaker 4: And I had a big house. Every closet was full.
Speaker 4: But it gives you more free time. You're not managing
Speaker 4: your stuff all the time. You feel like you can
Speaker 4: move more, you feel like it's easier to come and go.
Speaker 4: Those books had a huge impact on me.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's always a running joke of like
Speaker 2: the archives, everything's archives, and it's like you have to
Speaker 2: just start letting things go. Every couple of months, I'm like,
Speaker 2: all right, what else.
Speaker 4: I'm always like, can I sell it?
Speaker 2: Or do not like archives sell it? I'm like, because
Speaker 2: you exotica, we're gonna bring it next to guy. Okay.
Speaker 2: The greatest thing about athletes is they can't be seen
Speaker 2: with me. That is something that you quoted. Do you
Speaker 2: feel like in today's industry, the athletes want to be
Speaker 2: seen with us, from basketball players to rappers, et cetera.
Speaker 2: I feel like nowadays they more want to be seen.
Speaker 4: That's funny. I don't want to be seen with them now.
Speaker 4: It's so weird. I never thought this would happen. We're
Speaker 4: finally they'd be like, hey, let's go out to you.
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, because then I'm afraid I don't want
Speaker 4: to be part of the scene.
Speaker 3: I also don't know what else you got going on.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you're being honest with me. I
Speaker 4: don't know if there's another girl that thinks she's your girlfriend,
Speaker 4: and now you're toting me around like a handbag.
Speaker 3: I don't like that either, So like, yes, I will
Speaker 3: be seen with you if we're.
Speaker 4: Hosting an event and I'm getting paid and just so
Speaker 4: as we're in the same thing with Sinity or you're
Speaker 4: next there or something like that. But isn't that weird?
Speaker 4: I would chase. It's flipped.
Speaker 1: It definitely flipped.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like trying to clout cheese on us when really
Speaker 4: before you just want to focus in soul.
Speaker 2: I just fuck you in silent, which was was funny.
Speaker 2: Our minds me of a story from when I first
Speaker 2: started hanging out with your like going to New York,
Speaker 2: and it was like it had to do with an
Speaker 2: athlete situation. You're like, yeah, and I was dating an
Speaker 2: athlete at the time. We were at the same game.
Speaker 2: And then you're like, yeah, I have a date with
Speaker 2: so and so, but he's in here now and I
Speaker 2: told him I was sick and he's in the same
Speaker 2: place and I was I was like, this is classic, Lisa.
Speaker 2: You're like, I don't know if he saw the guy
Speaker 2: I was with was super tas so you're like, just
Speaker 2: stand here, so we don't.
Speaker 4: That happen A lot to this side behind really quickly.
Speaker 1: No, like, just let him pass because we can't you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always when, But now they just want to
Speaker 2: be like, hey, Lisa, yeah, we'rena sit at my table.
Speaker 4: And you're like, oh, you know, I'm not out like
Speaker 4: that anymore. Yeah, I'm not out like that. I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'm getting paid hosted a that I'm out. I casually
Speaker 4: go up with my friends, but I preferred to I'm
Speaker 4: now this woman. My friends are getting ready to go
Speaker 4: to their second spot and I'm going home.
Speaker 1: You're like, I'll call me tomorrow.
Speaker 4: Perfect, call me, because then I can get up and
Speaker 4: go to the gym.
Speaker 2: Who's the most famous person you know personally? Like you
Speaker 2: actually have their number on your phone? You could FaceTime them?
Speaker 2: Like who would I say? I don't know if I
Speaker 2: want to say. I'm not gonna ask you to call them,
Speaker 2: but I'm just.
Speaker 4: No, can I pas? I'm passing only because the privacy factor,
Speaker 4: and again I don't want to give this person clout.
Speaker 4: We just talked about it, like I'm sorry, buddy, you
Speaker 4: know who you are, You get all of you know
Speaker 4: you are?
Speaker 2: You got to arrested or detained recently from your fourth
Speaker 2: theory was that the first time you were in cuffs
Speaker 2: and can you explain what really happened? We want the
Speaker 2: furry Lisa Ann Lisa An not the first time I
Speaker 2: was in cuffs.
Speaker 4: Okay, first time as an adult though, in cuffs, which
Speaker 4: makes it a little bit scarier because you worry about.
Speaker 3: Your passport and stuff. Okay, didn't get arrested.
Speaker 4: Did fuck with the cups so a bit because they
Speaker 4: had me detained for forty five minutes outside was a
Speaker 4: nasty situation. And what happened was, you know, we my
Speaker 4: friend had gotten us great seats two rows back from
Speaker 4: the stage. Sitting there, matt Rife had just came out.
Speaker 4: We watched the first two great matt Rife comes out.
Speaker 4: Security comes over and they're like, man, you have to leave.
Speaker 4: They take me out to the lobbrary. They're like, you
Speaker 4: were on your phone. I'm like, I wasn't on my
Speaker 4: phone and my friend spent a lot of money in
Speaker 4: these tickets as a customer, Like, can you just check
Speaker 4: the cameras or check the data on my phone because
Speaker 4: I was not on my phone. And they're like, well,
Speaker 4: if you won't leave, then we're gonna rest you for
Speaker 4: trespassing and I just couldn't believe it to be true. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and I was like, is this a joke? And I
Speaker 4: kind of like seeing so many cops in New York souse.
Speaker 4: I was like, you know what, get up one. Eventually
Speaker 4: I was season where I know, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 4: then the rest and these guys fucking spun my ass
Speaker 4: around and slam me up against the thing. I mean,
Speaker 4: bent my bracelet, shut my watch like it was such
Speaker 4: a jar. Crazy yeah, and then we stand outside. Well,
Speaker 4: it'side for like forty five minutes. Finally my friends get
Speaker 4: out there, and I'm like, let's make some content. We're
Speaker 4: not gonna see this show. Let's face it's gonna be
Speaker 4: over by the time this is over. Let's make some content.
Speaker 4: We're trying to shoot photos. You weren't getting any good
Speaker 4: photos because I was up against this wall. It didn't
Speaker 4: have any effect. But then the ambulance like a movie.
Speaker 1: You're like, I've done this before against the wall.
Speaker 4: I just wanted to have some movement, right. I just
Speaker 4: know if I'm get to send something, I.
Speaker 2: Know your rights to it. But if you haven't done
Speaker 2: anything wrong, they haven't done whatever. It's like they have
Speaker 2: to give you some kind of answers. They can't just
Speaker 2: let you be, you know, so I think they throw me.
Speaker 4: In an ambulance because they're like, we want to have
Speaker 4: her do a psychiatric hold.
Speaker 1: I'm like, cause they were claiming that you were intoxicated.
Speaker 4: Which I was not. Uh, there was so the long
Speaker 4: and this sort of it is. The nurse, the doctor
Speaker 4: woman in the ambulance was so nice and she asked
Speaker 4: me a bunch of questions and she's like, this is insane.
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry this happened to you. She gets out,
Speaker 4: she yells the cops. They take off the handcuffs.
Speaker 2: They're like, walk home.
Speaker 4: And I was like, you're like, you all have fucked
Speaker 4: up my night. So then I got really fun to
Speaker 4: read that.
Speaker 3: But while I was walking with the ambulance, that was
Speaker 3: when my girl had the chance.
Speaker 4: To shoot the video with movement, and I was like,
Speaker 4: this is our opportunity.
Speaker 3: We get one take of this shit at shoot, and
Speaker 3: so we did.
Speaker 4: Eight seconds, one cut. I was so proud of her.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, her birthdays this weekend. I'm gonna get
Speaker 4: her something so nice.
Speaker 2: Oh did that bring a lot of attraction to your
Speaker 2: only fans?
Speaker 4: It did? But more than anything, I was getting fifty
Speaker 4: million views a day on Instagram. Hey, Like I was like, hey,
Speaker 4: it did give me a little boosts on the OA. Okay,
Speaker 4: but uh, to find out that it's a girl in
Speaker 4: the business that has a fan that works Radio City.
Speaker 4: And I never tell people where I'm going in real time,
Speaker 4: Like you notice, I'm in California. I've it posted one
Speaker 4: California picture on my IG. Those will all start going
Speaker 4: on when I get to the airport.
Speaker 1: Smart.
Speaker 4: I'm afraid of people. Of course, we both have to be.
Speaker 4: And I made the mistake that day at one pm
Speaker 4: going on doing an IG live and saying that I
Speaker 4: was going to the eight pm show at Radio City.
Speaker 4: I go to Radio City five ten times a year,
Speaker 4: and I always post the next day. So this person
Speaker 4: been waiting for the one opportunity. And it was fans
Speaker 4: on OnlyFans that started coming to me going, hey, what
Speaker 4: made you give your location? You never do that. These
Speaker 4: girls are talking about this right now. It's not who
Speaker 4: most people would think it could have been. It's somebody
Speaker 4: completely different, but still it's somebody that I haven't seen
Speaker 4: since twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2: This business, Can you be kissing people off please say
Speaker 2: an they've been waiting all this time.
Speaker 4: This person comes at me regularly. Oh okay, you know
Speaker 4: I have a couple. I have one person that just
Speaker 4: changes my Wikipedia all the time, and then I hire
Speaker 4: a company change back is back any annoying? Because some
Speaker 4: people that interview only look at your Wikipedia, then they
Speaker 4: have everything wrong. The thing in this business that's crazy
Speaker 4: is the grudges that are held, and that there's more
Speaker 4: bullying inside and from within than on the outside. Once
Speaker 4: you get out and you're out and about doing your
Speaker 4: other things, you realize people are way cooler than you
Speaker 4: thought they were going to be. There's a lot more
Speaker 4: light and less darkness. And I feel like the darkness
Speaker 4: that other people feel in this business they project on
Speaker 4: people who only feel the light. Mm hmm. It's heavy
Speaker 4: for sure. I was set up and this person ragged
Speaker 4: about it, and I got screen grabs of a text
Speaker 4: conversation with this person ragging about it.
Speaker 1: That's unfortunate. Yes, I feel like life's too short. I agree,
Speaker 1: that's all.
Speaker 2: Just move along. So I know you don't want to
Speaker 2: give anybody clout. And it's not that I'm going to
Speaker 2: ask for a name, but yes or no, could be suffice. Okay,
Speaker 2: who's them? Oh no, let's see. Have you dated or
Speaker 2: fucked anybody in the playoffs at the moment?
Speaker 4: Yep, there's a lot of playoffs, a couple teams.
Speaker 2: Exactly who do you think is our next president? Who
Speaker 2: is Lisa Ann voting for twenty.
Speaker 4: Times for politics? This shit'll get me killed.
Speaker 2: So you know what I said?
Speaker 4: We were so divided. Okay, this day that we're doing.
Speaker 4: New York is doing everything they can with this court
Speaker 4: case and TROUMP and the real problem is, I think
Speaker 4: there's a lot of great people out there that want
Speaker 4: to be in politics. And I'm really glad that DeSantis
Speaker 4: decided to jump out of the race because one of
Speaker 4: the things I learned doing paling was how much her
Speaker 4: state loved her and that what she got pulled away
Speaker 4: to run for vice president and then couldn't go back
Speaker 4: to being governor was a bummer. She did a lot
Speaker 4: of great things for that state. DeSantis has done a
Speaker 4: lot of great things for Florida, and people live there
Speaker 4: because of him, And I think a lot of people
Speaker 4: get involved in politics with the right intention, but there's
Speaker 4: so much underlying greed from the pharmaceutical companies that are
Speaker 4: connected to these politicians, who can change bills and laws
Speaker 4: that make deep things available, and then who benefits on
Speaker 4: the stock market them. The amount of greed that's going
Speaker 4: on behind everything is so intense and so incredible. But
Speaker 4: what we're doing right now is we're overcorrecting for the
Speaker 4: news selling us propaganda.
Speaker 3: I don't care how you feel about Trump. The news
Speaker 3: never talked.
Speaker 4: About good things. They only talked about bad things. They
Speaker 4: brainwashed us, they brought us COVID. We go through this
Speaker 4: whole fucking cesspool of bullshit, and now we're just happy
Speaker 4: to have something that isn't Trump. And in reality, everybody
Speaker 4: is feeling it. Inflation is up twenty one percent. People
Speaker 4: are struggling to pay their bills. I was shocked to
Speaker 4: see your gas out here is over five dollars a gallon.
Speaker 4: I'm so glad to not have a car. But I
Speaker 4: will tell you this. In twenty nineteen, when I was
Speaker 4: deciding whether I was going to move, I had this
Speaker 4: series of thoughts and dreams about what was going to
Speaker 4: happen after Trump, and that we were going to overcorrect
Speaker 4: and turn into this chaotically soft crime bridden. So what's
Speaker 4: happening now, and so that's why I sold it everything.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to own a home. I didn't want
Speaker 4: to own a car at this time. I don't want
Speaker 4: to be a hot I can pick up and move
Speaker 4: to another country at any time. I can file a
Speaker 4: digital visa nomad program anytime in bail. But I don't
Speaker 4: know who's going to win because we have so few
Speaker 4: candidates to choose from. I don't think Biden is well enough.
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of people working behind him
Speaker 4: and that's causing a lot of corruption. I think we
Speaker 4: got to do better with crime. I think we're having
Speaker 4: a big border issue. I think, you know, there's so
Speaker 4: many things. Who wants to take the job. It's like
Speaker 4: the guy that goes into the restaurants and finds that
Speaker 4: there's mice and heat. Restaurant impossible. He does this is
Speaker 4: USA impossible? Who wants a fucking job for like less
Speaker 4: than half a MILLI a year?
Speaker 2: Facts's okay, So let's fuck Mary killed okay, Biden or
Speaker 2: Obamba pass.
Speaker 4: And buy me pass?
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: That gives the answer.
Speaker 2: This says, being that you're involved with fantasy sports, what's
Speaker 2: one of your sports fantasies? Could you tell us about.
Speaker 4: I would like to hit big on a fucking bet
Speaker 4: that nobody believed in. Okay, I mean big. I'm fucking
Speaker 4: big because I spend time. Okay, I drop about five
Speaker 4: hundred bucks a month. That's a small budget. Okay, I'm
Speaker 4: just stupid fucking bets that if they hit, have like
Speaker 4: a plus twenty nine hundred. You know. But like I
Speaker 4: just want them to hit, and they're like stupid bets,
Speaker 4: So you want that big hit debt. I could just
Speaker 4: be like, I know, this is the dumbest thing you've
Speaker 4: never thought would hit, and hit fucking hit. I had
Speaker 4: a big parlay, but it wasn't dumb, but it did.
Speaker 4: Put it in January twenty first. Last year, it was
Speaker 4: the Nuggets to go to the finals. The Nuggets win
Speaker 4: it five, and it was plus nineteen hundred. I mean
Speaker 4: I made good money on that one. But it wasn't
Speaker 4: far fetched. Nuggets were that fucking good. I want something
Speaker 4: just like stupidly random and I'll do it. Be like, yeah,
Speaker 4: this wide receiver he's gonna have three touchdowns this week.
Speaker 4: It's plus thirty nine hundred. I'll put fifty bucks on
Speaker 4: it if it hits, a lot of money if it doesn't.
Speaker 4: I'm just the idiot that just wasted fifty bucks. And
Speaker 4: I'm always the idiot, the wasted the fifty up.
Speaker 1: Who's your mount Rushmore for Horn.
Speaker 4: That's a great question. Well you're on it.
Speaker 1: Oh, I like it. I made I made the mouth.
Speaker 4: You're on it. Okay. So I think I think we
Speaker 4: have to go with one old school performer, right, okay?
Speaker 4: And one so I think old school classic, let's really
Speaker 4: roll it back there. I'm gonna go with Shawn Michaels.
Speaker 1: Shawn Michaels good one.
Speaker 4: I was having to fuck him off camera when I
Speaker 4: came out here because again I said, I wasn't allowed
Speaker 4: to do interracial but like I wanted to meet him.
Speaker 4: I was a super fan by the time I got
Speaker 4: out here, so I was.
Speaker 2: Like, gonna try out the Goods.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get he lived in chats Worth, I lived
Speaker 4: in the Huntington Beach. Was very COMMUNI And then to
Speaker 4: throw another guy on there, I'm gonna throw Johnny Sins
Speaker 4: on there, of course, just because you know he's Johnny Sin's.
Speaker 4: He's super chill, he doesn't bother, he doesn't get your face,
Speaker 4: he gets his job done. He's amazing, and I think
Speaker 4: the other person that I'm gonna put on there would
Speaker 4: be Christy Kanyon, just because of what a positive impact
Speaker 4: she's had in my life and how she continues to
Speaker 4: inspire me. Love.
Speaker 2: What do you think about the Diddy situation? Have you
Speaker 2: ever dealt with any closet celebri berties.
Speaker 4: I avoid celebrities at all costs, even when I lived
Speaker 4: out here, because I just didn't want to see people
Speaker 4: doing shit that I knew was wrong, and then I
Speaker 4: have to judge them. I know I'm gonna judge you.
Speaker 4: I know you're gonna do you think of what you're doing.
Speaker 4: I don't like you, So whatever I'm getting ready to shoot,
Speaker 4: I'm like, nah, you know, I just I think very
Speaker 4: successful people do a lot of weird shit, but I
Speaker 4: think more than anything.
Speaker 3: And this came to me immediately when I saw the
Speaker 3: ditty thing.
Speaker 4: Someone fucking hates him more than anyone's ever hated him.
Speaker 4: Taking it back to Radio City, that girl hates me.
Speaker 4: She fucks with me as much as she can. She's
Speaker 4: got a hacker fan who likes it. Shut off with
Speaker 4: my fucking credit cards and fuck with my credit. It
Speaker 4: always directs the same person because one of her closest friends.
Speaker 4: She has no idea that I'm friends with, so shes.
Speaker 4: I think Didty's situation is unique because you just brought
Speaker 4: up the presidents my superstition hypothetical. What I think is
Speaker 4: happening conspiracy theory. We're gonna last minute throw Michelle Obama
Speaker 4: up there to run for president, and Michelle Obama and
Speaker 4: Obama have partied with the ditties multiple times and want
Speaker 4: all the video surveillance edited with them out of it,
Speaker 4: and they want to be sure that they're not connected,
Speaker 4: because how can the FBI, how can our government go
Speaker 4: into your home and destroy your fucking property and not
Speaker 4: arrest You better believe if you ever come into my
Speaker 4: hole and you rip wires out of the fucking wall
Speaker 4: and you make my place unlivable, the place that I
Speaker 4: worked my ass off, you better lock me the fuck
Speaker 4: up because I'll have to roll around, go to fucking
Speaker 4: talk off and act like nothing's to happen. It's suspicious, now,
Speaker 4: mind you. They didn't do this to Epstein. We had
Speaker 4: the choice to put Epstein in the jail in Florida
Speaker 4: in the nineties and then again the two thousand. We
Speaker 4: didn't do it because politicians this is very different. I
Speaker 4: believe there's a white cloud around the situation, but I
Speaker 4: think there has to be some politicking involved for him
Speaker 4: to have all of that shit done to his house.
Speaker 1: Is white girl politicing.
Speaker 2: Just say, hey, do you have your two books? Which
Speaker 2: was it easier harder to write the second the first?
Speaker 2: What is the difference between the two? And did you
Speaker 2: have a baby like one that's more favorite or the other?
Speaker 4: These second was way easy to write, and I'll tell
Speaker 4: you why. The first editor I worked with after my
Speaker 4: first book, which was grueling because I just kept writing,
Speaker 4: kept writing, he was like, look, you need to read more.
Speaker 4: And it's funny, I'm reading a Stephen King book right
Speaker 4: now on writing and it opens up with if you
Speaker 4: don't have time to read, you don't have time to write.
Speaker 4: So I put myself on a reading challenge that year.
Speaker 4: I was going to read a book a week for
Speaker 4: a year. I read sixty three books, sixty three books
Speaker 4: in a year, powered through this fucking book. Then I realized,
Speaker 4: oh my god, this first book sucked. By the time
Speaker 4: I sat down with my second book, I also had
Speaker 4: the idea of you know, you'd lay out the chapters,
Speaker 4: then your concepts you know, and you build these stories.
Speaker 4: But I didn't repeat myself. I was much more articulate.
Speaker 4: I learned from radio. Sometimes in radio you have three
Speaker 4: minutes before you're going to break and you want to
Speaker 4: cover a news story. You got to fit that news story,
Speaker 4: and in three minutes, I learned how to package things better.
Speaker 4: So the second book was easier to write, easier to edit,
Speaker 4: easier to read. And now I'm working on book number three.
Speaker 2: Amazing.
Speaker 4: I had two books going right now.
Speaker 1: Actually, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: Where can we support you? Where can we get find
Speaker 2: your book?
Speaker 4: Shop? Lisa? And And luckily enough, when I got shopleysand
Speaker 4: dot com, I thought this is great. I got shoply
Speaker 4: sand No, you know, my emails are for a fucking store,
Speaker 4: but I'm trying to make sure every book order gets delivered.
Speaker 4: People think they could buy me on that store. Not bad,
Speaker 4: it was a fail every fucking yeah. Maybe like I
Speaker 4: didn't get my book.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm liker. I didn't think about that.
Speaker 4: Three hundred emails a day. Did they ask me how
Speaker 4: much it costs to purchase me on my store? That
Speaker 4: I don't see the listing and just see books? Why
Speaker 4: are the books I love it all right.
Speaker 1: Last question, last time you had sex last week?
Speaker 4: Last week, right in between Chicago and coming here.
Speaker 1: Oh nice, you got to ease slip to one in.
Speaker 3: The fun a situation ship someone I really enjoyed too.
Speaker 4: He lives out here, but his dad's in New York,
Speaker 4: so he comes back there often. It's just reached.
Speaker 2: It works out, all right. Well, that is the rastly
Speaker 2: in review. I'm not going to do truth with Texas
Speaker 2: because I feel like we touched on a lot of
Speaker 2: really fun It's twelve fifty.
Speaker 4: Oh we're funny.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: I didn't want it.
Speaker 2: I know you're doing it on East Coast time. I
Speaker 2: was just making sure you're doing us a solid So okay.
Speaker 2: So we'll do a rapid fire of truth with Texas.
Speaker 2: So we're warmed up. We've got all those things out
Speaker 2: of the way. Now you mean to the gritty nitty
Speaker 2: gritty so naughty questions. Choked or spanked, spanked, never choke
Speaker 2: lub or spit lube.
Speaker 4: Always very worried about my Phd'll mind you.
Speaker 3: If I was in a relationship spit wouldn't be a problem.
Speaker 4: But when you were on set, you were always told
Speaker 4: a bunch of people's spit is not great. That's of
Speaker 4: these infection. So yeah, keep it to yourself. Keep it.
Speaker 1: It just freaks me out to handcuffs are blindfold?
Speaker 4: Blindfold?
Speaker 1: Have you ever faked an orgasm?
Speaker 4: Of course?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, are you a member of the mile
Speaker 1: High Club?
Speaker 4: No? Are you I am? Oh my god?
Speaker 3: Is it a private plane or a regular Planuthwest?
Speaker 4: It was dirty bathrooms.
Speaker 1: You're so brave in the seats.
Speaker 4: I'm so impressed with you.
Speaker 2: Like your nipples just got hard, right, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: it was like a spoon, you know, the well thing on,
Speaker 2: you know, like a little blanket over right. It was
Speaker 2: that night flight. It was back and you know, I
Speaker 2: used to work for Bang Bros. In Florida, so it
Speaker 2: was a late night flight. So there was like four
Speaker 2: people behind us too, so they weren't gonna telling us. Okay,
Speaker 2: biggest turn off? What is something that completely is repulsive
Speaker 2: to you? That's bad manners? Bad manners?
Speaker 4: And you know, it's funny you can meet somebody that
Speaker 4: is so nice to you and then you go somewhere
Speaker 4: with them. You see how they talk.
Speaker 2: To others others and you're like, yeah, like I won't go.
Speaker 4: On a date to my favorite restaurants and when I'm
Speaker 4: first getting to know somebody, because I don't want to
Speaker 4: not show up that I don't want somebody to treat
Speaker 4: my favorite waiter work ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because so let's go to your spots.
Speaker 4: You want to abuse people there, that's cool. I'll never
Speaker 4: come here again. But manners are such a big deal
Speaker 4: to me.
Speaker 1: That's one of your standards.
Speaker 4: So you got to add that to the l It's
Speaker 4: a highlighted that Talas lives.
Speaker 1: Have you ever hooked up with a friend's sibling?
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I grew up in a small town.
Speaker 4: You kind of had to.
Speaker 2: Okay, you had had someone watch you have sex prior
Speaker 2: to the industry. Were you very like exhibitionists back in
Speaker 2: the day? Were you like doing like having sex openly?
Speaker 4: I did have a couple people watch me have sex,
Speaker 4: and I did mysteriously arrange a couple of three ways
Speaker 4: with some of my high school boyfriends. Mysteriously like coming
Speaker 4: revenge in the bedroom window with another girl.
Speaker 2: Wow in high school? Nice naughty, naughty romantic questions making
Speaker 2: out or cuddling?
Speaker 4: Wow, oh get a pick one making out?
Speaker 2: Would you consider yourself a romantic yes? What's the most
Speaker 2: romantic thing you've ever done for a partner or a situationship.
Speaker 4: Well, my guy that traveled, I would changed. I would
Speaker 4: know where he was going to be traveling and make
Speaker 4: sure really special baskets were in his rooms with his
Speaker 4: favorite snacks.
Speaker 3: Okay, things like that. When I met my ex husband,
Speaker 3: I paid off his car.
Speaker 4: I think that's a very sweet, nice gesture. Yeah.
Speaker 2: If you looked in my like, I'm like, you see
Speaker 2: glimpses of vulnerable Lisa, And I think that those are
Speaker 2: like the little moments of like because I get it.
Speaker 2: I feel like you have a tough exterior wall for
Speaker 2: reasons either you know or yours. But it's like when
Speaker 2: we started to talking about romantic or things were like, well,
Speaker 2: the feminine wants to come out.
Speaker 4: You went to Apple TV and all the movies that
Speaker 4: I buy, they're all romance and I could rewatch it,
Speaker 4: but I like, and also, if you really want to
Speaker 4: see me ooze, like i'd been dog sitting for Archie,
Speaker 4: And when I think about Archie, my neighbor's dudle who
Speaker 4: I love so much, I could just look at him
Speaker 4: in his tail wags.
Speaker 2: Unconditional love cut or uncut doesn't matter to me at all.
Speaker 2: If your sex life was had a title of a song,
Speaker 2: what would it be.
Speaker 4: That's a great fucking question. I think it would be.
Speaker 4: I don't know why. This is the song that came
Speaker 4: to me immediately, I'm coming out, I'm coming up. I
Speaker 4: don't know why, but are not coming out to great?
Speaker 4: I don't know that song he came into my head,
Speaker 4: you asked, rapid Fire. Weirdly, that's the one song giving
Speaker 4: or receiving giving lights on or lights off on but
Speaker 4: not too bright, okay, like overhead, Like I like to
Speaker 4: go to a hotel, like flick all the lights on
Speaker 4: and I'll be like, ooh, a couple of little cats.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Deal breakers? What are deal breakers for you
Speaker 2: in a relationship?
Speaker 4: Mmmm? Of course? Manners, not taking care of yourself. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm not looking for like mister workout muscle guy works
Speaker 4: out of Venice Beach every day. But when people don't
Speaker 4: take care of themselves and they get sluggish and they
Speaker 4: get sloppy, they also get irritable, and it's a long
Speaker 4: term thing. Like I don't want to think that I'm
Speaker 4: going to take care of you because you didn't take
Speaker 4: care of yourself. That's it. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: Favorite place to be kissed probably right on my mouth
Speaker 1: kiss sous.
Speaker 2: All right, spicy questions. Most embarrassing thing that's happened to
Speaker 2: you sexually.
Speaker 4: Probably breaking my face when the guy doesn't come inside me.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Craziest place you.
Speaker 4: Had sex on the trellis at the old hotel that
Speaker 4: used to be in Studio City over the Swans while
Speaker 4: there was karaoke.
Speaker 2: Going on at the bar outside, like it just setting
Speaker 2: the mood for us. Hmmm, do you have a celebrity
Speaker 2: hall past or not a relationship, but if you had
Speaker 2: a celebrity that would no matter what relationship you were
Speaker 2: in life that you're just like, I'm gonna hook up
Speaker 2: with him her, whoever.
Speaker 4: I'm almost embarrassed to say it.
Speaker 2: Well, my friends know how I used to have these
Speaker 2: buttons and be Jimmy Graham.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham.
Speaker 4: Uh, he's a retired NFL player. But what I love
Speaker 4: about him You've got to follow him on Instagram. Okay,
Speaker 4: he does all this crazy shit, like he's learned how
Speaker 4: to fly planes. He just landed a plane on like
Speaker 4: a barge in the ocean. He lived out on a
Speaker 4: sailbow for a long period of time by himself. He's
Speaker 4: just like intense bike ride, just like and I'm obsessed
Speaker 4: with him in a very unhealthy way. I try not
Speaker 4: to like all of his posts because I don't want
Speaker 4: to seem so bad.
Speaker 2: You sorry, you start liking people's posts to get their attention,
Speaker 2: because not to do any of that, okay, I just
Speaker 2: you don't want to ruin him, to know, like, what
Speaker 2: if he talked to you, wouldn't be okay?
Speaker 1: I would die, you know what I mean? I was
Speaker 1: like little girl, like crying.
Speaker 3: I would be like, let's go for a bike ride.
Speaker 3: Like now you know he's so into cool shit?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 1: Last out of questions kinky questions? Do you have any fetishes?
Speaker 4: No, I'm boring sorry to say.
Speaker 2: I do love to kiss in the shower though, okay,
Speaker 2: bonded yes or no? Not really called someone the wrong
Speaker 2: name during sex?
Speaker 4: Never, but oh my god, what would you do?
Speaker 2: That's why you keep it to baby? You know the
Speaker 2: in terms of endearment. I learned that when I barts
Speaker 2: ended years ago. Yes, most number of times you've had
Speaker 2: sex in one day?
Speaker 4: I want to say seven or eight? Because I had
Speaker 4: sex with somebody in the morning that I was hanging
Speaker 4: out with, and then I went and did a two
Speaker 4: scenes back to back, one was multiple, and then went
Speaker 4: back again. I was like, let's go for this.
Speaker 1: Hey, got it?
Speaker 2: Got it all right? Last question?
Speaker 1: Favorite time of day to have sex? Are you more
Speaker 1: of it? I love learning, Okay, I.
Speaker 4: Mean I love night too, but there's just something so
Speaker 4: pure about the March day off right. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 4: I masturbate every morning when I wake up. I usually
Speaker 4: wake up about thirty minutes before my alarm, and instead
Speaker 4: of getting out of bed, I masturbate and let myself
Speaker 4: just let.
Speaker 1: You touch you or dildo have a girl in here.
Speaker 4: I didn't bring anything on this trip. It's just been me,
Speaker 4: myself and I right here and my digits do the job.
Speaker 1: But I do like hear a DJ by night.
Speaker 2: I fyber morning.
Speaker 4: But I learn little eggs, a little real toys, a
Speaker 4: little vibrators. I like all of those. I have a
Speaker 4: bunch of glass toys that's like my night sand drawer
Speaker 4: at home. I sometimes forget to.
Speaker 1: Travel with them.
Speaker 4: Single girl problem, yeah, yeah, but I feel masturbating in
Speaker 4: the morning is such a big deal. And I will
Speaker 4: say this I went through a spell. This will be
Speaker 4: the first time anybody hears this out loud. I've told
Speaker 4: two of my girlfriends. But you are going to be
Speaker 4: going through a change in life eventually, which I've already
Speaker 4: been through. But while I was going through it, I
Speaker 4: couldn't orgasm for ten months masturbating. Now I would tribled
Speaker 4: to orgasm during sex, but every morning for ten months
Speaker 4: I still tried, and then at night I would still
Speaker 4: try and it would get to the edge. It would
Speaker 4: be like you got the edge of the battery ran out,
Speaker 4: like on your life, like I.
Speaker 2: Like the worst.
Speaker 3: It was like female blue balls. And so it just
Speaker 3: happened about three weeks ago.
Speaker 4: It was a Thursday. I'll never forget it that I
Speaker 4: got up to do my thing and I did it
Speaker 4: and I came and now I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 4: It made it so exciting that I found myself multiple
Speaker 4: times a day for the first two weeks of it,
Speaker 4: where I'd be working from home and I'd be like,
Speaker 4: you know, why don't you just lay down masturbate for
Speaker 4: a little bit, like two three times a day because
Speaker 4: I was so happy to be able to do it again. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And I think a lot of a lot of women
Speaker 4: go through that phase and then they stop. And I
Speaker 4: just kept reading different works about how it's so important
Speaker 4: to continue to make that happen. You know, when you orgasm,
Speaker 4: there's a chemical that's released that helps lubricate your your
Speaker 4: muscles and it really keeps you from getting arthritis. Like, well,
Speaker 4: my friends are walking stiff. I'm like, girl, you need
Speaker 4: a fucking work. I'm like, yeah, I see it. I
Speaker 4: see it in you. I'm a way older. You need
Speaker 4: to suck up.
Speaker 2: That's your word to stiff.
Speaker 4: So it was important to me and it was something
Speaker 4: that I stuck with and I'm so glad I did
Speaker 4: because now I'm over the hill.
Speaker 2: Well I'm happy for.
Speaker 1: You because if you wouldn't be organized, and that's horrible.
Speaker 2: It was talking for it, and it was scary because
Speaker 2: you just don't know when you're so used to doing
Speaker 2: it every morning in the routine.
Speaker 4: And then my best friend was like, day seventy two,
Speaker 4: day seventy three. Every day I'd like, still, note, sit,
Speaker 4: then free. I'm like, oh, it is something, and look,
Speaker 4: every woman is going to go through this. The best
Speaker 4: thing you can do is embrace it, be prepared for it.
Speaker 4: Don't let it defeat you, and remember all the brilliant
Speaker 4: women keep on masturbating and can masturbate your way through it.
Speaker 4: I swear to you you.
Speaker 2: Heard from Lesan masturbate your way through it all right? Well,
Speaker 2: that completes truth with Texas. Is there anything you'd like
Speaker 2: to ask Miss Texas before you leave?