WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:09.400 Big Food and Beyond with Cliff and Bubo. These guys 2 00:00:09.400 --> 00:00:13.160 are your favorites, so like to subscribe and raid it 3 00:00:13.359 --> 00:00:20.839 Lip Story and me, Rachel on Yesterday and listening, oh 4 00:00:20.960 --> 00:00:25.320 watching lim always keep its watching. 5 00:00:26.600 --> 00:00:31.760 And now you're hosts Cliff Berrickman and James boogle Fay. Hello, folks, 6 00:00:31.760 --> 00:00:33.960 you got a special show for you today. I got 7 00:00:33.960 --> 00:00:37.479 some good friends on Rachel and Amy and they both 8 00:00:37.520 --> 00:00:42.159 had similar encounters with a sasquatch and Rachel was actually 9 00:00:42.200 --> 00:00:44.399 on the same dirt road logging road I was on 10 00:00:44.560 --> 00:00:47.920 when I had my first sighting. I heard about Amy's first. 11 00:00:48.240 --> 00:00:50.719 Let's start with you, Amy, tell us where you were, 12 00:00:50.759 --> 00:00:54.520 where you were going, and you know the lighting conditions, 13 00:00:54.679 --> 00:00:58.119 what you were driving, the all the all the relevant information. 14 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:02.880 Okay. Yeah. So at the time I was helping out 15 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:09.560 my ex boyfriend were not together anymore. Pete, I'll just 16 00:01:09.560 --> 00:01:13.680 say his name is Pete, that's it. He had several 17 00:01:13.680 --> 00:01:18.840 properties in Humboldt, and I would go and help him, 18 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:25.719 like assist him with supplies. He was doing cultivation at 19 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:31.760 his various spots, and I went out to the northern 20 00:01:31.799 --> 00:01:35.120 part of Humbolt. He would go to southern Humbolt, which 21 00:01:35.120 --> 00:01:39.079 is where some of his other properties were. And I 22 00:01:39.159 --> 00:01:42.519 lived in Trinidad at the time, so and I had 23 00:01:42.519 --> 00:01:46.680 a child, so it was more convenient, more convenient for 24 00:01:46.840 --> 00:01:50.680 me to take a northern route, so I would go 25 00:01:50.760 --> 00:01:54.120 out towards bald Hills Road. He had one property on 26 00:01:54.200 --> 00:01:59.000 bald Hills Road close to which apec and then the 27 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:04.920 other spot near there was off of Johnson Road, or 28 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:09.879 on Johnson Road, i should say. And so I had 29 00:02:09.919 --> 00:02:14.159 gone out to bald Hills Road, the one further out first, 30 00:02:14.599 --> 00:02:17.680 and then I went to the second spot. I was 31 00:02:17.719 --> 00:02:23.479 delivering you know, supplies like groceries and gas and stuff 32 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:28.199 like that, and that particular spot on Johnson Road, which 33 00:02:28.240 --> 00:02:32.039 is near the fire station near like Lady Bird Johnson. 34 00:02:33.120 --> 00:02:36.520 I went out there and it was around I would 35 00:02:36.560 --> 00:02:40.960 say dinner time. Actually it was before that, but when 36 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:44.479 I was leaving there, it was around dusk. And so, 37 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:49.599 you know Johnson Road off of bald Hills Road dusk time. 38 00:02:50.159 --> 00:02:56.360 It was like August maybe nineteen ninety nine, maybe two thousand, 39 00:02:57.520 --> 00:03:00.240 it was around that time. I you know, I was 40 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:03.759 just doing errands. I was helping my boyfriend at the time, 41 00:03:03.879 --> 00:03:07.439 and I had been out there dropped off some things 42 00:03:07.479 --> 00:03:11.560 and I was leaving there. There's a at the time. 43 00:03:11.680 --> 00:03:13.560 I don't know if it's still the case, but at 44 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:17.479 the time, there was some gates that was like I 45 00:03:17.479 --> 00:03:20.400 remember which company it was. I want to say it 46 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:23.719 was like Green Diamond, but I don't think that's right. 47 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:26.560 I think it was somebody else at the time. And 48 00:03:26.639 --> 00:03:30.039 so we had a it was there was two lock 49 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:33.439 gates to get out to the property and we had 50 00:03:33.479 --> 00:03:36.439 a key obviously to get to where we need to go. 51 00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:40.879 And I was on my way home, which was trinidadad 52 00:03:41.400 --> 00:03:46.039 at the time, and so I was leaving that spot 53 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:51.120 on Johnson Road, and I had my dog. I had 54 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:54.280 a I had two dogs at the time, but I 55 00:03:54.400 --> 00:03:57.319 used to always take a dog with me to go 56 00:03:57.439 --> 00:04:00.759 out out to the I mean to try out to 57 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:03.759 a rural spot. I always used to take one of 58 00:04:03.759 --> 00:04:06.680 the dogs with me. And at the time, I had 59 00:04:06.879 --> 00:04:12.840 our female dog. She was an American bulldog, really good 60 00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:16.600 guard dog. She you know, she was the type of 61 00:04:16.639 --> 00:04:19.839 dog that if people used to come over to visit, 62 00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:22.920 we would have to like put her inside or put 63 00:04:22.959 --> 00:04:26.040 her somewhere else. She was scary. She was a little 64 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:29.480 scary and she didn't like people coming up on the car. 65 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:32.800 She was very protective of our truck. She was a 66 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:36.759 good guard dog. She would chase bear, she'd chase mountain lions. 67 00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:40.720 She was kind of a scary dog like Froshe's dog, 68 00:04:41.560 --> 00:04:46.079 good guard dog. And so she was with me that 69 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:49.959 day and when we were leaving the Johnson Road property, 70 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:55.000 she started barking like a I didn't really understand, like 71 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:57.639 she was not a barking type dog. She was more 72 00:04:57.720 --> 00:05:01.240 like about growling, like aggressive dog. And so she was 73 00:05:01.319 --> 00:05:04.279 barking in the truck and I just thought maybe there 74 00:05:04.360 --> 00:05:09.639 was a cow or an elk or you know, something 75 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:13.800 that she was smelling. And she continued to do that 76 00:05:13.839 --> 00:05:18.040 for a while, and I just kind of tried to 77 00:05:18.079 --> 00:05:20.680 ignore it. I wasn't really paying that much attention to 78 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:25.199 it because she's like that, she's a guard dog. And 79 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:29.120 so when I was going to the first gate that 80 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:32.519 I would go through to leave the property that i'd 81 00:05:32.560 --> 00:05:36.600 just been at two lock gates, it got a little 82 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:41.040 bit more intense. I would say definitely had me on alert. 83 00:05:41.240 --> 00:05:43.120 I was like, what's going on the dogs? 84 00:05:43.279 --> 00:05:45.279 Was she looking at in one particular position? Was she 85 00:05:45.319 --> 00:05:46.199 looking in one direction? 86 00:05:47.079 --> 00:05:51.079 She was being very aggressive in my car and I 87 00:05:51.120 --> 00:05:53.279 didn't know why. I just thought, like I said, I 88 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:55.920 thought it was like she smelled like something, you know. 89 00:05:56.959 --> 00:06:00.399 And so when we got to the first gate, the 90 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:05.560 first lock gate my dog, I opened the door for 91 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:09.079 her to get out with me to unlock the gate, 92 00:06:09.160 --> 00:06:13.680 and she wasn't coming out of the car. And I 93 00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:18.879 thought that was really strange. And I remember being like 94 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:24.279 a little bit afraid, not like overly afraid, but she 95 00:06:24.360 --> 00:06:27.839 wouldn't come. So I like put my leash on her. 96 00:06:28.040 --> 00:06:30.519 I put it on her collar, and I kind of 97 00:06:30.519 --> 00:06:33.079 pulled her out with me and we went over and 98 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:37.319 locked the gate. The dog was acting strange again, like 99 00:06:37.439 --> 00:06:40.040 she didn't she like got away from me and ran 100 00:06:40.079 --> 00:06:42.680 and got back in the car, very unlike my dog. 101 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:46.639 And I unlocked the gate, I got back in my 102 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:50.439 truck and I drove through. I got back out to 103 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:56.800 lock it back up, and the dog was I couldn't 104 00:06:56.879 --> 00:06:58.639 get the dog to come out, even if I put 105 00:06:58.680 --> 00:07:00.519 the leash on her. I was trying to pour out. 106 00:07:01.279 --> 00:07:04.040 She wasn't coming. She had her tail between her legs, 107 00:07:04.120 --> 00:07:11.680 she was shivering. She maybe even like Peede like my dogs. 108 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:13.480 Neither one of my dogs would ever pee in the 109 00:07:13.519 --> 00:07:18.680 house or in my car, especially so the dog alerted 110 00:07:18.720 --> 00:07:21.720 me that there was something wrong. I will say that 111 00:07:21.800 --> 00:07:24.680 I was on high alert when all of this was happening, 112 00:07:25.920 --> 00:07:29.399 because even still to this day, Bobo, and I've told 113 00:07:29.439 --> 00:07:33.319 you this already, like I don't fully believe in it. 114 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:36.160 I don't disbelieve in it. But and I don't know 115 00:07:36.240 --> 00:07:39.399 what I saw exactly. I don't know. I can't say, yeah, 116 00:07:39.439 --> 00:07:42.639 I saw bigfoot, that's exactly what it was. I can't 117 00:07:42.680 --> 00:07:46.639 really say that because it happened so quickly, and these 118 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:50.279 things were like heightened. There was like this heightened awareness 119 00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:54.240 going on, you know. But it was scary. It's definitely, 120 00:07:54.279 --> 00:07:57.000 like the scariest thing that's ever happened to me was 121 00:07:57.000 --> 00:08:00.639 when my dog was acting like that. And then when 122 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:03.199 I got back in my truck and I was between 123 00:08:03.240 --> 00:08:09.920 the two lock gates, I saw something to the left 124 00:08:09.959 --> 00:08:14.959 of my truck. It was very tall. It had glowing eyes, 125 00:08:16.120 --> 00:08:19.240 but it was dusk. I will say it was dusk. 126 00:08:19.319 --> 00:08:21.639 Any animal's eyes glow like that, right? 127 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:23.600 What color? What color are the eyes? 128 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:30.120 Amber? Like a like a yellowish brownish amber color. Whatever 129 00:08:30.160 --> 00:08:34.320 it was. When it saw me notice it, it started 130 00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:40.000 backing up. It recognized that I saw it, and it 131 00:08:40.080 --> 00:08:46.279 started backing up further away from where I was, and 132 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:52.320 it was really tall. It reminded me of a what's 133 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:57.240 the type of monkey that is orange? Is that an orangutan? 134 00:08:57.919 --> 00:09:00.720 I'm not really sure it was, but it was a 135 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:04.240 very tall version of that. It was not a bear. 136 00:09:04.919 --> 00:09:08.279 It wasn't anything I've ever seen before. It was it 137 00:09:08.360 --> 00:09:12.360 was like as tall as the lowest branch of the tree, 138 00:09:12.519 --> 00:09:15.879 which was a tall tree. I would say, I would say, 139 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:19.200 you know, seven feet tall. If I had to guess, 140 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:22.480 it would be that tall. And again, like I said, 141 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:24.720 the amber glowing ice saying it, I think it was 142 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:27.360 maybe you know, it was dusk, so I don't know. 143 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:30.799 It was just all different factors. But the weirdest part 144 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:33.480 about it was the dog, my dog, the way she 145 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:37.120 was acting, and also too, the way that the like 146 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:42.200 the whatever I saw when it saw me notice it 147 00:09:42.240 --> 00:09:45.720 and like see it it. The way it responded was 148 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:50.240 odd to me, Like it wasn't like a normal animal response. 149 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:53.919 I would say, but I didn't like take very much 150 00:09:53.960 --> 00:09:56.639 time to look at the animal or like responded. The 151 00:09:56.720 --> 00:10:00.159 more I like, instead of like getting out and unlock 152 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:04.440 the second gate, I floored my truck and I ran 153 00:10:04.600 --> 00:10:06.840 through the second gate so I wouldn't have to stop 154 00:10:06.879 --> 00:10:13.759 and get out, and I drove back to Trinidad with 155 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:18.000 a wrecked vehicle and a breaked out a dog in 156 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:23.679 my car. It was very traumatic, I would say. I 157 00:10:23.679 --> 00:10:26.879 mean we were both, you know, just railing from that. 158 00:10:27.039 --> 00:10:30.279 And I remember at the time my ex boyfriend now 159 00:10:30.919 --> 00:10:34.279 he was very upset that I had wrecked the truck. 160 00:10:34.799 --> 00:10:38.679 He didn't want to believe that maybe I saw Bigfoot. 161 00:10:38.759 --> 00:10:41.440 I remember telling him, like, I think I might have 162 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:46.919 solved Bigfoot. He wasn't really you know, feeling that at 163 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:50.039 the time. And I remember that I was like, I'm 164 00:10:50.039 --> 00:10:52.440 going to reach out to my friend, which was you, 165 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:57.399 which was way before you ever started your show or 166 00:10:57.639 --> 00:11:00.240 any of that stuff. Was really long time ago. Oh 167 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:04.080 and I remember you were the one that like kind 168 00:11:04.080 --> 00:11:06.399 of talked me through it and asked me questions and 169 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:10.159 they were all relevant, and you know, it made me 170 00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:13.919 feel like less crazy, I would say, not that I 171 00:11:14.000 --> 00:11:16.919 feel like I'm a crazy person, It just, you know, 172 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:21.799 it just felt more like, yeah, that maybe that that 173 00:11:22.039 --> 00:11:22.720 was what it was. 174 00:11:22.840 --> 00:11:25.639 You know, what did you say too, that when you 175 00:11:25.679 --> 00:11:28.000 were driving your dog was freaking out like she'd be 176 00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:31.120 pointed like like you could. Her head was following whatever 177 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:34.879 it was you thought that was running, likely alongside my dog. 178 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:38.879 I didn't know what was going on until I saw it. 179 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:42.120 I mean, my dog definitely alerted me and made me 180 00:11:42.320 --> 00:11:48.480 like more hyper vigilant. I would say my dog was 181 00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:51.960 what alerted if my dog hadn't been in the car, 182 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:55.480 but bo, I don't know, like I would have never 183 00:11:55.519 --> 00:11:59.000 even known that that that was happening. The dog was 184 00:11:59.080 --> 00:12:02.559 like went from like a weird like bart cry to 185 00:12:02.720 --> 00:12:07.559 like a howling to like almost like pissing herself in 186 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:11.480 the truck. She was terrified. And the dog was a 187 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:13.799 not really dog guard dog. 188 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:15.759 But her head was like following. 189 00:12:15.799 --> 00:12:19.279 She was like looking specifically like she was tracking it. 190 00:12:19.320 --> 00:12:23.480 I thought, yeah, my dog was definitely on high alert 191 00:12:23.720 --> 00:12:27.200 and definitely like gave me all the cues and stuff that. 192 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:30.799 I mean, she didn't see what I saw. I mean 193 00:12:30.840 --> 00:12:32.840 she might have say, alway, I saw too. I don't know, 194 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:36.080 I mean it's a dog, but I remember, like my 195 00:12:36.320 --> 00:12:39.879 dog definitely put me on to like being like, what 196 00:12:40.039 --> 00:12:43.360 there's something going on? Like I just thought maybe it 197 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:46.720 was like a wolf or something that like my dog 198 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:50.559 had never encountered. Before the way that she was acting, 199 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:54.279 she was terrified. You know, I go back and forth 200 00:12:54.399 --> 00:12:57.320 like I know what I saw, and I know how 201 00:12:57.360 --> 00:13:00.080 it felt and how scary it was, But I I 202 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:02.879 go back and forth to being like, well, maybe my 203 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:07.440 dog is what scared me, and I like, you know, 204 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:11.840 like I imagine that. I know that that's not true, 205 00:13:12.039 --> 00:13:16.720 but it definitely made me more aware. That makes sense. 206 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:21.279 Had she not been with me, I don't know what 207 00:13:21.320 --> 00:13:24.759 would have happened. I mean, I was between two locked 208 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:28.399 gates when I saw that thing, whatever it was, and 209 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:32.919 if my dog hadn't alerted me to that, who knows 210 00:13:32.960 --> 00:13:35.639 what would have happened, is what I think to myself. 211 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:41.120 Honestly, stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff 212 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:49.120 and Bobo will be right back after these messages. So 213 00:13:49.240 --> 00:13:51.519 three to six months doesn't seem like a long time 214 00:13:51.720 --> 00:13:54.919 right in bigfoot Land. It's not very long because we've 215 00:13:54.919 --> 00:13:57.919 been looking for sasquatches for decades and decades and decades. 216 00:13:57.960 --> 00:13:59.679 But when you think about what can happen in three 217 00:13:59.679 --> 00:14:02.120 to six months, like, what would you do in three 218 00:14:02.120 --> 00:14:04.399 to six months? 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It was like I was 264 00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:11.279 in between two gates and the thing was in the 265 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:15.559 tree line, and as soon as that thing saw that 266 00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:19.120 I that I saw it is when it started to retreat. 267 00:16:19.639 --> 00:16:22.639 And if I hadn't noticed it, would it would it 268 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:25.519 have been retreated? I mean, I go back and forth 269 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:28.879 all the time, like what would have really happened? If 270 00:16:28.919 --> 00:16:32.759 my dog hadn't alerted me, I wouldn't even been looking 271 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:36.159 for something, you know, Like I was that my dog 272 00:16:36.320 --> 00:16:40.080 keyed me into that there was something wrong and I 273 00:16:40.120 --> 00:16:44.399 saw something that I've never seen before. It's like something 274 00:16:44.440 --> 00:16:46.320 that you would see in a nightmare. 275 00:16:46.840 --> 00:16:49.000 Can you describe anything else, like the shape of the 276 00:16:49.039 --> 00:16:51.840 head or with the shoulders, Like what else did you see? 277 00:16:51.919 --> 00:16:52.960 Like length of hair? 278 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:55.120 Was it longer in any spots or lighter color or 279 00:16:55.159 --> 00:16:56.720 darker color than any spots? 280 00:16:57.399 --> 00:17:00.919 It was like a reddish brown color. It had longer, 281 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:06.240 like longish hair. It wasn't short haired, like I have 282 00:17:06.279 --> 00:17:11.200 a short haired cat, and I've been just recently caring 283 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:15.720 for my friend's cats. They're long haired cuts. This thing 284 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:18.759 had long hair. It was a longer It was like 285 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:21.519 a reddish brown color. The thing was tall. It was 286 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:25.960 like I mean, I'm guessing seven at least seven feet, 287 00:17:26.039 --> 00:17:29.480 if not taller than that. I mean, it could have 288 00:17:29.559 --> 00:17:34.359 even been ten feet. I don't know. It happened so fast, 289 00:17:35.200 --> 00:17:41.079 but it reminded me of a monkey, like a not 290 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:45.279 a monkey, but like a orangu tang with that color, 291 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:50.960 the color and the shape of it. It had long arms, 292 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:56.559 it was really tall. It had very broad shoulders, and 293 00:17:57.799 --> 00:18:00.960 it was it wasn't like it was like anything I've 294 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:04.519 ever seen before. I've never seen anything like that before. 295 00:18:04.720 --> 00:18:07.759 I can't. That's why it's hard for me to describe it. 296 00:18:08.039 --> 00:18:09.519 Did you get more of the impression that was like 297 00:18:09.559 --> 00:18:11.480 more like a human or more like an animal? 298 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:15.400 For the look, it was more like a human, but 299 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:18.640 it was also very much like an animal. It was 300 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:22.480 like a very good cross. I would say. I can't 301 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:25.039 wait to hear the other story. I want to hear 302 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:25.920 Rachel's story. 303 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:29.720 I have questions for you though, because I was also 304 00:18:29.799 --> 00:18:33.599 on Johnson Road, So I'm curious, like where on Johnson's 305 00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:35.119 were you? Like at what mile marker? 306 00:18:35.960 --> 00:18:38.000 Oh, I can tell you. I can't tell you on 307 00:18:38.119 --> 00:18:41.440 my own marker, but I can tell you that the 308 00:18:41.480 --> 00:18:45.079 property that I was out was on a really nice creek. 309 00:18:46.079 --> 00:18:50.160 It wasn't the Klamath, but it was like a tributary 310 00:18:50.559 --> 00:18:50.920 to that. 311 00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:51.960 I think it was. 312 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:54.599 Meta, it's going to say it's probably Meta Creek. 313 00:18:54.720 --> 00:18:58.640 Yeah, yeah, and then I think so too. I mean, 314 00:18:58.680 --> 00:19:01.960 I would have to ask. But I felt like when 315 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:04.680 I was at his property, it was like I'd never 316 00:19:05.039 --> 00:19:08.480 that nobody in the whole world had ever been to 317 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:11.039 where I was at. It was so it felt so 318 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:17.680 pristine and untouched and just beautiful, and I felt a 319 00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:20.200 lot of really good vibes there, and we had a 320 00:19:20.240 --> 00:19:23.440 little yurt. It was like he was trying not to 321 00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:26.839 like really like touch the land and like build it 322 00:19:26.960 --> 00:19:30.240 up and do any kind of like construction there that 323 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:35.440 would like disrupt anything we were trying to be And 324 00:19:35.519 --> 00:19:38.880 it was just felt like a really sacred space, way 325 00:19:38.920 --> 00:19:41.759 more than his other spot, which but but you've been 326 00:19:41.799 --> 00:19:44.119 to the other spot, which is more closer to Wichipec. 327 00:19:44.640 --> 00:19:45.920 Yeah, you know. 328 00:19:46.160 --> 00:19:49.799 Leaving that spot and like being so scared that was 329 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:53.960 weird for me because I always really enjoyed being out there. 330 00:19:54.720 --> 00:19:57.240 And I'll tell you, I never went back out to 331 00:19:57.279 --> 00:20:00.359 that spot again after that happened to me. I never 332 00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:06.160 went to either of those places after that happened. It 333 00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:10.279 definitely was something that it gave me a really bad 334 00:20:10.319 --> 00:20:15.559 anxiety about going out there again, and I never felt 335 00:20:15.559 --> 00:20:17.640 that but that way before, and I had been going 336 00:20:17.680 --> 00:20:21.799 out there for like, you know, by to seven years. 337 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:24.839 I would say, yeah, I mean I've been going out 338 00:20:24.880 --> 00:20:27.480 there my whole life. My ground was born out there, 339 00:20:28.160 --> 00:20:33.039 our family properties down like thirteen miles down Johnson's Road, 340 00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:37.880 almost about a mile up from the Riffle, So my 341 00:20:38.039 --> 00:20:40.799 whole I mean, I get what you're saying, Like going 342 00:20:40.839 --> 00:20:44.680 out there makes me happy, right, but it's like homecoming. 343 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:47.240 But also I think I think it's really interesting because 344 00:20:47.799 --> 00:20:50.680 I mean, I grew up with stories about Bigfoot or 345 00:20:50.799 --> 00:20:52.559 Graham would call them the old people. 346 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:52.960 You know. 347 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:55.359 For the listeners, I was just gonna say, Rachel's a 348 00:20:55.359 --> 00:20:56.799 member of the europe tribe. 349 00:20:56.960 --> 00:20:59.960 Actually, I'm a Urraq person enrolled at the Trindad ranchery. 350 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:03.039 Yeah, okay, I'm sorry. 351 00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:06.000 That's okay. We can talk to travel politics another show, 352 00:21:06.079 --> 00:21:10.240 maybe another show. But yeah, I'm a I'm a rock person. 353 00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:14.160 I grew up, you know, out here out town. But 354 00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:20.720 this family property, uh is above the village of Yacht 355 00:21:21.880 --> 00:21:25.160 so it has been. It was my great great grandmother's 356 00:21:26.119 --> 00:21:30.480 land and then inherited, uh you know, through the generations 357 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:33.039 of my grandma had a piece and the cousins had 358 00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:36.240 pieces up top. My uncle actually his place was out 359 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:40.440 more toward Meta. So I just I feel, you know, 360 00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:44.680 I felt real familiar with that land out there. But 361 00:21:44.759 --> 00:21:46.279 I would tell you now, since it's been so long 362 00:21:46.319 --> 00:21:49.079 since you've been out there, Amy, you would hardly recognize 363 00:21:49.119 --> 00:21:53.599 it because they've done a lot of logging. But yeah, like, 364 00:21:54.359 --> 00:21:55.680 I don't know if you just want me to jump 365 00:21:55.759 --> 00:21:57.400 right into my story, Bobo. 366 00:21:57.559 --> 00:22:01.279 Sure, Yeah, I mean if any background, unless or what 367 00:22:01.359 --> 00:22:03.799 anything's pertinent just yet he rep. 368 00:22:04.279 --> 00:22:05.880 Yeah, like I said, I mean, I grew up with 369 00:22:05.960 --> 00:22:09.640 lots of bigfoot or Sasquatch stories. You know. I think 370 00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:12.559 I've told you one night long ago out there in 371 00:22:12.559 --> 00:22:16.400 Samoa about my auntie, like going to fish Lake and 372 00:22:16.440 --> 00:22:20.119 like having it you had to knock or two rocks 373 00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:22.480 together like three times, like you know, tap them three 374 00:22:22.519 --> 00:22:25.039 times as you're going around. And then one time she 375 00:22:25.119 --> 00:22:29.279 was out there gathering sticks or something and was hitting 376 00:22:29.279 --> 00:22:31.319 her rocks and then had it come back at her 377 00:22:31.559 --> 00:22:34.079 and start getting closer, like it was mimicking what she 378 00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:36.920 was doing, and she took off out of there. Also, 379 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:38.680 this I just have to tell you. I think I 380 00:22:38.720 --> 00:22:41.680 told you this before too, when your show was happening. 381 00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:43.920 My graam liked to watch it, and she's like, you 382 00:22:44.079 --> 00:22:48.759 tell that Bobo that they're only going to show themselves 383 00:22:48.759 --> 00:22:51.680 when they want to because they're interdimensional creatures. 384 00:22:52.079 --> 00:22:54.960 Oh my god. I had somebody tell me that recently 385 00:22:55.599 --> 00:22:59.440 from your tribe. Actually they say only certain people can 386 00:22:59.480 --> 00:23:00.200 see it. 387 00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:04.039 Yeah, when they want to show themselves too, you'll see them. 388 00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:08.000 That's what Grandma always said, So yeah, might again. It 389 00:23:08.119 --> 00:23:13.079 was like about twenty years ago, summertime. You know, I 390 00:23:13.079 --> 00:23:15.440 had been going up there a lot. My brother and 391 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:17.119 I were staying up there quite a bit, and like 392 00:23:17.119 --> 00:23:18.880 our whole family used to always be up there all 393 00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:22.920 the time. And then I was trying to get out 394 00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:24.880 of there. So it was like I was trying to 395 00:23:24.880 --> 00:23:27.319 get off of the hill before dark, like at least 396 00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:30.079 get down into Ork by dark. So it would have 397 00:23:30.079 --> 00:23:33.079 been probably maybe seven or eight o'clock because it was 398 00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:36.200 like the golden hour, right, the sun was like just 399 00:23:36.359 --> 00:23:39.240 going down. It was beautiful. Everything was like bathed in 400 00:23:39.279 --> 00:23:42.400 like this golden light. And I had been like just 401 00:23:42.599 --> 00:23:44.359