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Speaker 2: And now you're hosts Cliff Berrickman and James boogle Fay. Hello, folks,
Speaker 2: you got a special show for you today. I got
Speaker 2: some good friends on Rachel and Amy and they both
Speaker 2: had similar encounters with a sasquatch and Rachel was actually
Speaker 2: on the same dirt road logging road I was on
Speaker 2: when I had my first sighting. I heard about Amy's first.
Speaker 2: Let's start with you, Amy, tell us where you were,
Speaker 2: where you were going, and you know the lighting conditions,
Speaker 2: what you were driving, the all the all the relevant information.
Speaker 3: Okay. Yeah. So at the time I was helping out
Speaker 3: my ex boyfriend were not together anymore. Pete, I'll just
Speaker 3: say his name is Pete, that's it. He had several
Speaker 3: properties in Humboldt, and I would go and help him,
Speaker 3: like assist him with supplies. He was doing cultivation at
Speaker 3: his various spots, and I went out to the northern
Speaker 3: part of Humbolt. He would go to southern Humbolt, which
Speaker 3: is where some of his other properties were. And I
Speaker 3: lived in Trinidad at the time, so and I had
Speaker 3: a child, so it was more convenient, more convenient for
Speaker 3: me to take a northern route, so I would go
Speaker 3: out towards bald Hills Road. He had one property on
Speaker 3: bald Hills Road close to which apec and then the
Speaker 3: other spot near there was off of Johnson Road, or
Speaker 3: on Johnson Road, i should say. And so I had
Speaker 3: gone out to bald Hills Road, the one further out first,
Speaker 3: and then I went to the second spot. I was
Speaker 3: delivering you know, supplies like groceries and gas and stuff
Speaker 3: like that, and that particular spot on Johnson Road, which
Speaker 3: is near the fire station near like Lady Bird Johnson.
Speaker 3: I went out there and it was around I would
Speaker 3: say dinner time. Actually it was before that, but when
Speaker 3: I was leaving there, it was around dusk. And so,
Speaker 3: you know Johnson Road off of bald Hills Road dusk time.
Speaker 3: It was like August maybe nineteen ninety nine, maybe two thousand,
Speaker 3: it was around that time. I you know, I was
Speaker 3: just doing errands. I was helping my boyfriend at the time,
Speaker 3: and I had been out there dropped off some things
Speaker 3: and I was leaving there. There's a at the time.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's still the case, but at
Speaker 3: the time, there was some gates that was like I
Speaker 3: remember which company it was. I want to say it
Speaker 3: was like Green Diamond, but I don't think that's right.
Speaker 3: I think it was somebody else at the time. And
Speaker 3: so we had a it was there was two lock
Speaker 3: gates to get out to the property and we had
Speaker 3: a key obviously to get to where we need to go.
Speaker 3: And I was on my way home, which was trinidadad
Speaker 3: at the time, and so I was leaving that spot
Speaker 3: on Johnson Road, and I had my dog. I had
Speaker 3: a I had two dogs at the time, but I
Speaker 3: used to always take a dog with me to go
Speaker 3: out out to the I mean to try out to
Speaker 3: a rural spot. I always used to take one of
Speaker 3: the dogs with me. And at the time, I had
Speaker 3: our female dog. She was an American bulldog, really good
Speaker 3: guard dog. She you know, she was the type of
Speaker 3: dog that if people used to come over to visit,
Speaker 3: we would have to like put her inside or put
Speaker 3: her somewhere else. She was scary. She was a little
Speaker 3: scary and she didn't like people coming up on the car.
Speaker 3: She was very protective of our truck. She was a
Speaker 3: good guard dog. She would chase bear, she'd chase mountain lions.
Speaker 3: She was kind of a scary dog like Froshe's dog,
Speaker 3: good guard dog. And so she was with me that
Speaker 3: day and when we were leaving the Johnson Road property,
Speaker 3: she started barking like a I didn't really understand, like
Speaker 3: she was not a barking type dog. She was more
Speaker 3: like about growling, like aggressive dog. And so she was
Speaker 3: barking in the truck and I just thought maybe there
Speaker 3: was a cow or an elk or you know, something
Speaker 3: that she was smelling. And she continued to do that
Speaker 3: for a while, and I just kind of tried to
Speaker 3: ignore it. I wasn't really paying that much attention to
Speaker 3: it because she's like that, she's a guard dog. And
Speaker 3: so when I was going to the first gate that
Speaker 3: I would go through to leave the property that i'd
Speaker 3: just been at two lock gates, it got a little
Speaker 3: bit more intense. I would say definitely had me on alert.
Speaker 3: I was like, what's going on the dogs?
Speaker 4: Was she looking at in one particular position? Was she
Speaker 4: looking in one direction?
Speaker 3: She was being very aggressive in my car and I
Speaker 3: didn't know why. I just thought, like I said, I
Speaker 3: thought it was like she smelled like something, you know.
Speaker 3: And so when we got to the first gate, the
Speaker 3: first lock gate my dog, I opened the door for
Speaker 3: her to get out with me to unlock the gate,
Speaker 3: and she wasn't coming out of the car. And I
Speaker 3: thought that was really strange. And I remember being like
Speaker 3: a little bit afraid, not like overly afraid, but she
Speaker 3: wouldn't come. So I like put my leash on her.
Speaker 3: I put it on her collar, and I kind of
Speaker 3: pulled her out with me and we went over and
Speaker 3: locked the gate. The dog was acting strange again, like
Speaker 3: she didn't she like got away from me and ran
Speaker 3: and got back in the car, very unlike my dog.
Speaker 3: And I unlocked the gate, I got back in my
Speaker 3: truck and I drove through. I got back out to
Speaker 3: lock it back up, and the dog was I couldn't
Speaker 3: get the dog to come out, even if I put
Speaker 3: the leash on her. I was trying to pour out.
Speaker 3: She wasn't coming. She had her tail between her legs,
Speaker 3: she was shivering. She maybe even like Peede like my dogs.
Speaker 3: Neither one of my dogs would ever pee in the
Speaker 3: house or in my car, especially so the dog alerted
Speaker 3: me that there was something wrong. I will say that
Speaker 3: I was on high alert when all of this was happening,
Speaker 3: because even still to this day, Bobo, and I've told
Speaker 3: you this already, like I don't fully believe in it.
Speaker 3: I don't disbelieve in it. But and I don't know
Speaker 3: what I saw exactly. I don't know. I can't say, yeah,
Speaker 3: I saw bigfoot, that's exactly what it was. I can't
Speaker 3: really say that because it happened so quickly, and these
Speaker 3: things were like heightened. There was like this heightened awareness
Speaker 3: going on, you know. But it was scary. It's definitely,
Speaker 3: like the scariest thing that's ever happened to me was
Speaker 3: when my dog was acting like that. And then when
Speaker 3: I got back in my truck and I was between
Speaker 3: the two lock gates, I saw something to the left
Speaker 3: of my truck. It was very tall. It had glowing eyes,
Speaker 3: but it was dusk. I will say it was dusk.
Speaker 3: Any animal's eyes glow like that, right?
Speaker 4: What color? What color are the eyes?
Speaker 3: Amber? Like a like a yellowish brownish amber color. Whatever
Speaker 3: it was. When it saw me notice it, it started
Speaker 3: backing up. It recognized that I saw it, and it
Speaker 3: started backing up further away from where I was, and
Speaker 3: it was really tall. It reminded me of a what's
Speaker 3: the type of monkey that is orange? Is that an orangutan?
Speaker 3: I'm not really sure it was, but it was a
Speaker 3: very tall version of that. It was not a bear.
Speaker 3: It wasn't anything I've ever seen before. It was it
Speaker 3: was like as tall as the lowest branch of the tree,
Speaker 3: which was a tall tree. I would say, I would say,
Speaker 3: you know, seven feet tall. If I had to guess,
Speaker 3: it would be that tall. And again, like I said,
Speaker 3: the amber glowing ice saying it, I think it was
Speaker 3: maybe you know, it was dusk, so I don't know.
Speaker 3: It was just all different factors. But the weirdest part
Speaker 3: about it was the dog, my dog, the way she
Speaker 3: was acting, and also too, the way that the like
Speaker 3: the whatever I saw when it saw me notice it
Speaker 3: and like see it it. The way it responded was
Speaker 3: odd to me, Like it wasn't like a normal animal response.
Speaker 3: I would say, but I didn't like take very much
Speaker 3: time to look at the animal or like responded. The
Speaker 3: more I like, instead of like getting out and unlock
Speaker 3: the second gate, I floored my truck and I ran
Speaker 3: through the second gate so I wouldn't have to stop
Speaker 3: and get out, and I drove back to Trinidad with
Speaker 3: a wrecked vehicle and a breaked out a dog in
Speaker 3: my car. It was very traumatic, I would say. I
Speaker 3: mean we were both, you know, just railing from that.
Speaker 3: And I remember at the time my ex boyfriend now
Speaker 3: he was very upset that I had wrecked the truck.
Speaker 3: He didn't want to believe that maybe I saw Bigfoot.
Speaker 3: I remember telling him, like, I think I might have
Speaker 3: solved Bigfoot. He wasn't really you know, feeling that at
Speaker 3: the time. And I remember that I was like, I'm
Speaker 3: going to reach out to my friend, which was you,
Speaker 3: which was way before you ever started your show or
Speaker 3: any of that stuff. Was really long time ago. Oh
Speaker 3: and I remember you were the one that like kind
Speaker 3: of talked me through it and asked me questions and
Speaker 3: they were all relevant, and you know, it made me
Speaker 3: feel like less crazy, I would say, not that I
Speaker 3: feel like I'm a crazy person, It just, you know,
Speaker 3: it just felt more like, yeah, that maybe that that
Speaker 3: was what it was.
Speaker 2: You know, what did you say too, that when you
Speaker 2: were driving your dog was freaking out like she'd be
Speaker 2: pointed like like you could. Her head was following whatever
Speaker 2: it was you thought that was running, likely alongside my dog.
Speaker 3: I didn't know what was going on until I saw it.
Speaker 3: I mean, my dog definitely alerted me and made me
Speaker 3: like more hyper vigilant. I would say my dog was
Speaker 3: what alerted if my dog hadn't been in the car,
Speaker 3: but bo, I don't know, like I would have never
Speaker 3: even known that that that was happening. The dog was
Speaker 3: like went from like a weird like bart cry to
Speaker 3: like a howling to like almost like pissing herself in
Speaker 3: the truck. She was terrified. And the dog was a
Speaker 3: not really dog guard dog.
Speaker 4: But her head was like following.
Speaker 2: She was like looking specifically like she was tracking it.
Speaker 3: I thought, yeah, my dog was definitely on high alert
Speaker 3: and definitely like gave me all the cues and stuff that.
Speaker 3: I mean, she didn't see what I saw. I mean
Speaker 3: she might have say, alway, I saw too. I don't know,
Speaker 3: I mean it's a dog, but I remember, like my
Speaker 3: dog definitely put me on to like being like, what
Speaker 3: there's something going on? Like I just thought maybe it
Speaker 3: was like a wolf or something that like my dog
Speaker 3: had never encountered. Before the way that she was acting,
Speaker 3: she was terrified. You know, I go back and forth
Speaker 3: like I know what I saw, and I know how
Speaker 3: it felt and how scary it was, But I I
Speaker 3: go back and forth to being like, well, maybe my
Speaker 3: dog is what scared me, and I like, you know,
Speaker 3: like I imagine that. I know that that's not true,
Speaker 3: but it definitely made me more aware. That makes sense.
Speaker 3: Had she not been with me, I don't know what
Speaker 3: would have happened. I mean, I was between two locked
Speaker 3: gates when I saw that thing, whatever it was, and
Speaker 3: if my dog hadn't alerted me to that, who knows
Speaker 3: what would have happened, is what I think to myself.
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Speaker 4: How far was it from you?
Speaker 3: It wasn't really that far. It was like I was
Speaker 3: in between two gates and the thing was in the
Speaker 3: tree line, and as soon as that thing saw that
Speaker 3: I that I saw it is when it started to retreat.
Speaker 3: And if I hadn't noticed it, would it would it
Speaker 3: have been retreated? I mean, I go back and forth
Speaker 3: all the time, like what would have really happened? If
Speaker 3: my dog hadn't alerted me, I wouldn't even been looking
Speaker 3: for something, you know, Like I was that my dog
Speaker 3: keyed me into that there was something wrong and I
Speaker 3: saw something that I've never seen before. It's like something
Speaker 3: that you would see in a nightmare.
Speaker 2: Can you describe anything else, like the shape of the
Speaker 2: head or with the shoulders, Like what else did you see?
Speaker 4: Like length of hair?
Speaker 2: Was it longer in any spots or lighter color or
Speaker 2: darker color than any spots?
Speaker 3: It was like a reddish brown color. It had longer,
Speaker 3: like longish hair. It wasn't short haired, like I have
Speaker 3: a short haired cat, and I've been just recently caring
Speaker 3: for my friend's cats. They're long haired cuts. This thing
Speaker 3: had long hair. It was a longer It was like
Speaker 3: a reddish brown color. The thing was tall. It was
Speaker 3: like I mean, I'm guessing seven at least seven feet,
Speaker 3: if not taller than that. I mean, it could have
Speaker 3: even been ten feet. I don't know. It happened so fast,
Speaker 3: but it reminded me of a monkey, like a not
Speaker 3: a monkey, but like a orangu tang with that color,
Speaker 3: the color and the shape of it. It had long arms,
Speaker 3: it was really tall. It had very broad shoulders, and
Speaker 3: it was it wasn't like it was like anything I've
Speaker 3: ever seen before. I've never seen anything like that before.
Speaker 3: I can't. That's why it's hard for me to describe it.
Speaker 2: Did you get more of the impression that was like
Speaker 2: more like a human or more like an animal?
Speaker 3: For the look, it was more like a human, but
Speaker 3: it was also very much like an animal. It was
Speaker 3: like a very good cross. I would say. I can't
Speaker 3: wait to hear the other story. I want to hear
Speaker 3: Rachel's story.
Speaker 6: I have questions for you though, because I was also
Speaker 6: on Johnson Road, So I'm curious, like where on Johnson's
Speaker 6: were you? Like at what mile marker?
Speaker 3: Oh, I can tell you. I can't tell you on
Speaker 3: my own marker, but I can tell you that the
Speaker 3: property that I was out was on a really nice creek.
Speaker 3: It wasn't the Klamath, but it was like a tributary
Speaker 3: to that.
Speaker 4: I think it was.
Speaker 6: Meta, it's going to say it's probably Meta Creek.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and then I think so too. I mean,
Speaker 3: I would have to ask. But I felt like when
Speaker 3: I was at his property, it was like I'd never
Speaker 3: that nobody in the whole world had ever been to
Speaker 3: where I was at. It was so it felt so
Speaker 3: pristine and untouched and just beautiful, and I felt a
Speaker 3: lot of really good vibes there, and we had a
Speaker 3: little yurt. It was like he was trying not to
Speaker 3: like really like touch the land and like build it
Speaker 3: up and do any kind of like construction there that
Speaker 3: would like disrupt anything we were trying to be And
Speaker 3: it was just felt like a really sacred space, way
Speaker 3: more than his other spot, which but but you've been
Speaker 3: to the other spot, which is more closer to Wichipec.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: Leaving that spot and like being so scared that was
Speaker 3: weird for me because I always really enjoyed being out there.
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you, I never went back out to
Speaker 3: that spot again after that happened to me. I never
Speaker 3: went to either of those places after that happened. It
Speaker 3: definitely was something that it gave me a really bad
Speaker 3: anxiety about going out there again, and I never felt
Speaker 3: that but that way before, and I had been going
Speaker 3: out there for like, you know, by to seven years.
Speaker 6: I would say, yeah, I mean I've been going out
Speaker 6: there my whole life. My ground was born out there,
Speaker 6: our family properties down like thirteen miles down Johnson's Road,
Speaker 6: almost about a mile up from the Riffle, So my
Speaker 6: whole I mean, I get what you're saying, Like going
Speaker 6: out there makes me happy, right, but it's like homecoming.
Speaker 6: But also I think I think it's really interesting because
Speaker 6: I mean, I grew up with stories about Bigfoot or
Speaker 6: Graham would call them the old people.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: For the listeners, I was just gonna say, Rachel's a
Speaker 2: member of the europe tribe.
Speaker 6: Actually, I'm a Urraq person enrolled at the Trindad ranchery.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 6: That's okay. We can talk to travel politics another show,
Speaker 6: maybe another show. But yeah, I'm a I'm a rock person.
Speaker 6: I grew up, you know, out here out town. But
Speaker 6: this family property, uh is above the village of Yacht
Speaker 6: so it has been. It was my great great grandmother's
Speaker 6: land and then inherited, uh you know, through the generations
Speaker 6: of my grandma had a piece and the cousins had
Speaker 6: pieces up top. My uncle actually his place was out
Speaker 6: more toward Meta. So I just I feel, you know,
Speaker 6: I felt real familiar with that land out there. But
Speaker 6: I would tell you now, since it's been so long
Speaker 6: since you've been out there, Amy, you would hardly recognize
Speaker 6: it because they've done a lot of logging. But yeah, like,
Speaker 6: I don't know if you just want me to jump
Speaker 6: right into my story, Bobo.
Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah, I mean if any background, unless or what
Speaker 2: anything's pertinent just yet he rep.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like I said, I mean, I grew up with
Speaker 6: lots of bigfoot or Sasquatch stories. You know. I think
Speaker 6: I've told you one night long ago out there in
Speaker 6: Samoa about my auntie, like going to fish Lake and
Speaker 6: like having it you had to knock or two rocks
Speaker 6: together like three times, like you know, tap them three
Speaker 6: times as you're going around. And then one time she
Speaker 6: was out there gathering sticks or something and was hitting
Speaker 6: her rocks and then had it come back at her
Speaker 6: and start getting closer, like it was mimicking what she
Speaker 6: was doing, and she took off out of there. Also,
Speaker 6: this I just have to tell you. I think I
Speaker 6: told you this before too, when your show was happening.
Speaker 6: My graam liked to watch it, and she's like, you
Speaker 6: tell that Bobo that they're only going to show themselves
Speaker 6: when they want to because they're interdimensional creatures.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. I had somebody tell me that recently
Speaker 3: from your tribe. Actually they say only certain people can
Speaker 3: see it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, when they want to show themselves too, you'll see them.
Speaker 6: That's what Grandma always said, So yeah, might again. It
Speaker 6: was like about twenty years ago, summertime. You know, I
Speaker 6: had been going up there a lot. My brother and
Speaker 6: I were staying up there quite a bit, and like
Speaker 6: our whole family used to always be up there all
Speaker 6: the time. And then I was trying to get out
Speaker 6: of there. So it was like I was trying to
Speaker 6: get off of the hill before dark, like at least
Speaker 6: get down into Ork by dark. So it would have
Speaker 6: been probably maybe seven or eight o'clock because it was
Speaker 6: like the golden hour, right, the sun was like just
Speaker 6: going down. It was beautiful. Everything was like bathed in
Speaker 6: like this golden light. And I had been like just
Speaker 6: ripping down the road. I used to start a lot
Speaker 6: faster down that road, and I had my old like
Speaker 6: Toyota truck, so I was with it had a lift
Speaker 6: on it, so I was kind of up pretty high,
Speaker 6: and I came around the corner. I was probably somewhere
Speaker 6: around like a mile mark or five four or five
Speaker 6: like closer actually to turn off to Meta honestly, so
Speaker 6: probably quite near where you had your sighting. I mean,
Speaker 6: And it was like rip around the corner. You know,
Speaker 6: the sun's like glowing, everything's kind of this like beautiful
Speaker 6: golden shimmery thing, you know, and I come whipping around. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I come whipping around the curve and I see. I mean,
Speaker 6: it was like so fast, right, so I'm like my
Speaker 6: brain's trying to catch up with what like what I'm
Speaker 6: seeing with like known things, you know. And it was
Speaker 6: this creature. I would say, at first I thought it
Speaker 6: was a bear, but it was standing up on two
Speaker 6: legs and it all had like its arms like kind
Speaker 6: of outstretched long arms. So it couldn't have been a
Speaker 6: bear because it was almost like like lateral where bears
Speaker 6: when they are standing their arms, their shoulders don't work
Speaker 6: that way, you know, their arms stay in front of them.
Speaker 6: I was right there in this clearing, and it's just
Speaker 6: like in retrospect, it appeared to be enjoying the sunset
Speaker 6: if it's you know, if that's a thing that they
Speaker 6: can I mean, I believe that Bigfoot can enjoy sunsets.
Speaker 6: And it was just sort of like basking, you know,
Speaker 6: in this golden globe, and then it, you know, I
Speaker 6: disrupted its peaceful moment and it dropped down on all
Speaker 6: fours and started like running next to my truck because
Speaker 6: I had slowed down, and I was like, what the
Speaker 6: hell it was? Probably, I guess on all on both
Speaker 6: feet it was somewhere between seven and eight feet, is
Speaker 6: what I would guess, because then it started like keeping
Speaker 6: pace with my truck and I had slowed down to
Speaker 6: like try to figure out if I was it was
Speaker 6: going to run in the road and like hit it.
Speaker 6: I didn't want to hit it whatever, you know, And
Speaker 6: my brain was still trying to say bear. But it
Speaker 6: was just too tall. I mean, I've seen big bears
Speaker 6: out there, lots of lots of bears out there. It
Speaker 6: was too tall, way too tall.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: There's no grizzlies out there, no more. And they're not
Speaker 6: the right it's not the right color. It was like
Speaker 6: that reddish brown, sort of orangey color. It had long
Speaker 6: longer fur like you were saying, not overly like swishy,
Speaker 6: but it was furry.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 6: Hands did not have fur on them. I don't think
Speaker 6: feet had you know, I couldn't see the pads of
Speaker 6: his feet because at that point it was like right
Speaker 6: next to me, but I know that there was no
Speaker 6: fur on the hands. And then, like I said, it
Speaker 6: was just keeping pace with me, and it was probably
Speaker 6: for no more than like a thousand yards, you know,
Speaker 6: because it was in this clearing on the left side
Speaker 6: of me as I was headed probably west at that
Speaker 6: point on Johnson's Road, back toward Bald Hills Road, and
Speaker 6: it just kept pace. And then at one point, like
Speaker 6: it was right it pulled right up alongside my truck.
Speaker 6: It was I could have reached my hand out the
Speaker 6: window and touched it, and my window was down, it
Speaker 6: was cracked, and it's back was probably right in line
Speaker 6: or a little bit above my window line. So I'm
Speaker 6: fairly short, so it kind of came to my shoulder.
Speaker 6: It's probably four foot off the ground four and a
Speaker 6: half foot off the ground on its arms and legs
Speaker 6: running and then it just turned and like it turned
Speaker 6: and looked at me, and right in my face, and
Speaker 6: then like I was just like, what the heck, you know,
Speaker 6: and then it peeled off into the brush and I
Speaker 6: just kept going. I was like, all right, well that happened,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 3: Was that like the scariest thing that's ever happened to you?
Speaker 6: No, Because I grew up with stories about them, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean. I also grew up with stories
Speaker 6: of like engine devils out there, and so what I
Speaker 6: was taught is like, if you see those would call
Speaker 6: them mama. If you see them, you don't show no fear.
Speaker 6: You know, you don't show no fear, or they can't
Speaker 6: you know, they can do to you things that you
Speaker 6: don't want done to you. So but it wasn't threatening.
Speaker 6: It was just like, what's up. You know, you've intruded
Speaker 6: upon my beautiful moment? Like you know, you see me down.
Speaker 4: You think it was next to you for about a
Speaker 4: thousand yards or so.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, it wasn't a very long stretch of
Speaker 6: road right there where there's prairie on the side before
Speaker 6: the trees and the brush get too thick, so it
Speaker 6: was open. It was kind of like in this clearing
Speaker 6: and so you know you cut right around there's a
Speaker 6: cowfield it's before the cowfield's like right at hand corn road.
Speaker 6: So I came around the corner there's this clearing and
Speaker 6: then you know a little bit farther up you get
Speaker 6: to those like barbire fences where those folks have those cows.
Speaker 6: There's like a helicopter landing pad there now. But it
Speaker 6: used to be open prairie. But yeah, no, it ran
Speaker 6: for somewhere between eight hundred and a thousand yards because
Speaker 6: it's not very big of a stretch of open prairie there.
Speaker 6: It wasn't at the time. And then you know, you
Speaker 6: get back into trees on both sides and thick brush,
Speaker 6: so that's what it did. It like just sort of
Speaker 6: took off into the brush as I kept going down
Speaker 6: the road, like at that point I wasn't gonna stop.
Speaker 6: You know, I've had all kinds of animal encounters out
Speaker 6: there on that road, Like you know, see the biggest
Speaker 6: mountain lion I've ever seen in my life, and it's
Speaker 6: real skinny. And then you know, one hundred yards down
Speaker 6: the road, my truck breaks down. I have to get out,
Speaker 6: you know, like all kinds of stuff, all kinds of bears,
Speaker 6: all kinds of things. One time we're's out because we
Speaker 6: used to sleep on the deck in our family's house
Speaker 6: and Groam would sleep inside. And I got up and
Speaker 6: went to the bathroom about five o'clock in the morning maybe,
Speaker 6: and she's just looking out the window. She goes, oh, good,
Speaker 6: you're alive. I said, what happened. She's like, oh, there's
Speaker 6: a big panther on the roof. She watched it like
Speaker 6: jump down off the road onto the roof of the house,
Speaker 6: and like was just watching all asleep where like you know,
Speaker 6: one time some real smart fellow left of salmon sitting
Speaker 6: on the deck and I woke up to a bear
Speaker 6: like licking it closer and closer to us, trying to
Speaker 6: get at it. So I've seen lots of stuff out there.
Speaker 2: And so when you first saw you were driving up
Speaker 2: and you said it was kind of the road there
Speaker 2: was kind of going I guess south, and it was
Speaker 2: facing it was facing west. He's kind of saw like
Speaker 2: a partial profile.
Speaker 4: Was that the case? And how far from the road
Speaker 4: was it?
Speaker 6: I thought it's back. First it was full on like
Speaker 6: like basking in the sun, like in this like golden
Speaker 6: light as the sun was setting, and like so I
Speaker 6: saw it its arms outstretched. It was on two feet,
Speaker 6: you know. I saw its back first and it was
Speaker 6: mostly human shaped, you know, but when bears stand up too.
Speaker 6: This is like, as an aside, one of the things
Speaker 6: about bears, if you ever find a bear skeleton in
Speaker 6: the woods, not that their bones necessarily articulate as human,
Speaker 6: but their hands do. So if you find a bear's hands,
Speaker 6: it's real easy to confuse bare hand carples with human
Speaker 6: hands because like specifically the carpals, the only difference is
Speaker 6: on a human, like if you look at your knuckle,
Speaker 6: the human knuckle is like a I know the anatomical names,
Speaker 6: but I can't remember him. But anyway, there's like those
Speaker 6: two like kind of ridges or I mean points, and
Speaker 6: then there's a valley in between, right, and that's where
Speaker 6: your tendons go. And on a bear's there's a ridge
Speaker 6: in the middle because it's got two tendons that go through,
Speaker 6: so it can have that real strong like claw action,
Speaker 6: you know. So I'm saying all of this and only
Speaker 6: to say that, like I understood in that moment that
Speaker 6: this was not a bear because it didn't have bare hands,
Speaker 6: and bears can also appear human like at times, and
Speaker 6: there's stories about that, but the ain't the time for
Speaker 6: that either. But yeah, no, it just like full on
Speaker 6: was standing there. I saw its back. It like kind
Speaker 6: of turned its head a little bit to its right,
Speaker 6: like is it recognized that I was kind of coming?
Speaker 6: And then it dropped down onto its hands and feet
Speaker 6: and then just started like sort of like galloping, you know,
Speaker 6: sort of next to me. I was probably going twenty
Speaker 6: five miles an hour at that point. I slowed way
Speaker 6: down because I didn't want to hit it, and, like
Speaker 6: I said, still try it in my brain to work
Speaker 6: out is this unknown entity like it's not a bear?
Speaker 6: What is it? How can it not be a bear?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 6: What the hell else could it be?
Speaker 5: Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and
Speaker 5: Bobo will be right back after these messages.
Speaker 2: So you were driving up like twenty five miles an
Speaker 2: hour and it was standing like how far from the road,
Speaker 2: like five ten feet?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, easy, maybe not even between five and ten feet.
Speaker 2: When it started running as you passed, it kind of
Speaker 2: just all a sudden, just took off and was just
Speaker 2: kept up with you right away.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was just running right alongside me. And at
Speaker 6: that point it was like a foot and a half
Speaker 6: two feet from me, like from the side of my track,
Speaker 6: just running alongside me. And like I said, because that's
Speaker 6: what I was going to ask you, Amy, is like,
Speaker 6: did you notice like a smell, because I like got
Speaker 6: hit in the face with a smell and it was
Speaker 6: like kind of reminded me. You know how bears kind
Speaker 6: of have a distinctive stout smell or even elk elk
Speaker 6: smell a little bit more like musky. I don't know
Speaker 6: if anybody's ever noticed that, but I have. And that's
Speaker 6: what it was, Just like a real kind of musky scent,
Speaker 6: like not gross or anything, not displeasing.
Speaker 3: But I feel like I believe that that's true, but
Speaker 3: I can't remember smell, like smelling something. But at the time,
Speaker 3: like I told you, I was so scared, and I
Speaker 3: think it's so great that you weren't afraid of there
Speaker 3: because you had heard stories and stuff, whereas I had
Speaker 3: no idea other than like someone like Bobo telling me
Speaker 3: that there was a bigfoot. And I remember being like,
Speaker 3: maybe that's true, but maybe, like I don't know, like
Speaker 3: I wasn't like I fully believe in this or I
Speaker 3: fully disbelieve in this. You know, but when that happened
Speaker 3: to me, he was definitely the person that I felt
Speaker 3: like I could talk to about it.
Speaker 6: Oh for sure, I feel like too, like just because
Speaker 6: like I grew up in like in my community like
Speaker 6: these we we have these stories. It's still you know,
Speaker 6: I was totally resonating with what you were saying, for like,
Speaker 6: you don't really want to have these conversations with people.
Speaker 3: And Yeahbudy the story.
Speaker 6: No, yeah, you got to like suss out whether or
Speaker 6: not they're you know, going to be open to hearing
Speaker 6: this and not be dismissive of your experience.
Speaker 3: It sounds absolutely crazy, but it's not. It's not it's
Speaker 3: not something that I'm making up. It's something that actually
Speaker 3: happened to me, something that I will never forget. It's definitely,
Speaker 3: like I said, the scariest thing that's ever happened to me.
Speaker 3: And so to hear their people's stories makes me feel
Speaker 3: not so alone in it.
Speaker 2: I know that they said that they that they show
Speaker 2: themselves in like certain times into certain people, and I
Speaker 2: think that's true. But I also think and I think
Speaker 2: I know that they also screw up, like they're not perfect,
Speaker 2: and that they get sneen by people that they don't
Speaker 2: want them, they don't want to be that.
Speaker 3: It was probably me, like I said, the thing are
Speaker 3: treated so quickly. As soon as it saw me see it,
Speaker 3: it started backing that really fast.
Speaker 6: Sometimes I think like what if they're just messed around,
Speaker 6: They're like, whant to see whant to see? We freak
Speaker 6: this check out.
Speaker 2: I think they sell themselves to natives, like like sometimes
Speaker 2: when the native team or a lot of the times
Speaker 2: like that has a that is like a certain like
Speaker 2: a because like not all, not all humans are like
Speaker 2: Tibetan monks or you know, like these cloister nuns. There's
Speaker 2: certain people on different levels of spiritual art. I think
Speaker 2: those things are kind of the same. And I think
Speaker 2: there's also maybe entities that that take on their shape
Speaker 2: or you know, like use maybe use their body to
Speaker 2: travel because it's more efficient to travel, or they have
Speaker 2: a certain purpose to achieve so they go in that form.
Speaker 6: Yes, I agree with you, Bobo. You know what I
Speaker 6: think sometimes too is about like because they have purpose here, right,
Speaker 6: They're like they're not just play and hide and seek,
Speaker 6: you know, they have a purpose and responsibility to this
Speaker 6: place just like we do. So you know it might
Speaker 6: be that they're checking in to see, like, what in
Speaker 6: the heck are those crazy humans doing now to this
Speaker 6: place that we're responsible to. I would look at it like.
Speaker 4: That, Rachel.
Speaker 2: I wanted to get a little bit back into your sighting,
Speaker 2: so you pulled up to it and has back to you.
Speaker 4: Was it like a brick like? Wise, shoulders all thick?
Speaker 4: All my dollar? Was it more v shaped? How was
Speaker 4: the body proportions?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it had really broad, like muscular shoulders like you know,
Speaker 6: because like I said, it's arms were extended, so you
Speaker 6: could see the musculature.
Speaker 2: Not like walking like a zombie with its arms out
Speaker 2: in front of it extended, you mean, just like hanging
Speaker 2: to the side.
Speaker 6: But no, it had its arms like spread out like
Speaker 6: it was like literally the only thing that my description
Speaker 6: is like basking in the sun like you ever see
Speaker 6: like people like praying with their hands their arms outstretched
Speaker 6: and hands upturned like it was literally like receiving like
Speaker 6: the light. You know. That's what it looked like to me.
Speaker 6: That's my reference. What it was actually doing, I don't know,
Speaker 6: but it had its arms out stretched to its sides
Speaker 6: like so it could stretch them out laterally like a
Speaker 6: human could right, whereas like if you see bears there,
Speaker 6: their shoulders don't rotate out like that.
Speaker 2: Was it kind of like the Jesus crucified post? Or
Speaker 2: was it ours one in front of it?
Speaker 6: No, a little not all the way not all the
Speaker 6: way back, a little bit forward, but yeah, I mean
Speaker 6: arms outstretched like as though like receiving something, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 6: And then like I said, it sort of like leaned
Speaker 6: like it didn't turn away or all the way around,
Speaker 6: but it sort of like tilted its head back toward me,
Speaker 6: like as it heard me coming, which I find hard
Speaker 6: to believe. It didn't hear me coming or feel the
Speaker 6: vibration in my truck for a while, you know, but
Speaker 6: it made you know, who knows, it was just enjoying
Speaker 6: what it the you know, enjoying the view. It was
Speaker 6: just a really gorgeous sense that it happened to be also,
Speaker 6: so yeah, and like you know, because it was that
Speaker 6: the Golden Hour, everything just had that real sort of
Speaker 6: like dreamy hue, and it was sort of like you
Speaker 6: could see like the light kind of filtering through like
Speaker 6: some of the wispier ends of the fur and this
Speaker 6: is you know, this is all happening quickly. But this
Speaker 6: has kind of burned into my brain because how you know,
Speaker 6: how many times does this happened to a person?
Speaker 4: You know? Do you see the eye color I had.
Speaker 6: To have because its face was right in my face,
Speaker 6: But it's probably I mean, it's not sticking out. I'm
Speaker 6: it's sort of just brown. All I'm seeing is brown
Speaker 6: in the face.
Speaker 2: Did you see it transition from uh, standing up on
Speaker 2: all on two feet to did you see it transition
Speaker 2: on all fours?
Speaker 4: Then it started and then it started running? What happened
Speaker 4: in that? Yes?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it went so like I said, it sort of
Speaker 6: like leans a little bit, so like heard that I
Speaker 6: was coming, so it's being interrupted. And then it dropped
Speaker 6: to all fours and started running alongside my truck. And
Speaker 6: then as I was getting to the end of the clearing,
Speaker 6: like I said, it like turned and looked at me.
Speaker 6: I guess it had brown, like brownish eyes, maybe maybe
Speaker 6: lighter brown, but I wouldn't say they were like glowing
Speaker 6: amber or anything like that.
Speaker 2: As you passed it, it just kind of dropped like
Speaker 2: it dropped down on all fours as you're like, as
Speaker 2: you're pulling up next to it, and then it just
Speaker 2: ran like instantly as going as fast as you were
Speaker 2: going like twenty five.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was just like kind of next to me,
Speaker 6: I might have slowed down even more than that.
Speaker 2: Was he in the brush still it kind of he
Speaker 2: was like jumping over stuff and like having to avoid things, correct.
Speaker 6: Because we were in an open clearing. It was like,
Speaker 6: like I said, it was just this this stretch of
Speaker 6: like prairie that's off to the side right there. It
Speaker 6: doesn't look like that anymore right now, you know, But
Speaker 6: back then it was like a little stretch of open
Speaker 6: prairie for a good thousand yards and then it chokes
Speaker 6: up in the brush.
Speaker 4: Get noise, I want.
Speaker 6: To say, like I heard like breathing, but it might
Speaker 6: have been me, dude, Like you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: Like I can't recall noise. But I also had the
Speaker 6: radio on because I was always blasting music and stuff
Speaker 6: still do. But and I didn't like turn the radio down.
Speaker 6: But I remember the smell.
Speaker 2: Is it sticking in your nose afterwards? Like even after
Speaker 2: New York it wasn't there. Did you still smell like them?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 6: No, And it smelled like my truck smelled like it
Speaker 6: because it was like right rubbing up like it was
Speaker 6: right there, Like I don't feel like it was touching
Speaker 6: and didn't find any fur afterward and anything like that.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I could still smell it like around my
Speaker 6: truck for a good while. And I've like, you know,
Speaker 6: you ever, like drove through the elk hurd it for
Speaker 6: trying to get out to Freek Canyon when they won't move.
Speaker 6: I've been face to face with elk and so they
Speaker 6: kind of you know, transferred their smell a little bit
Speaker 6: for a while.
Speaker 4: Did you notice the hands when it was on all fours?
Speaker 2: But do you know if it do you know some
Speaker 2: of it was knuckle like when knuckles down, flat hands.
Speaker 6: No knuckles, not flat hands.
Speaker 4: Knuckles, Oh, you definitely saw them. It was on knuckle.
Speaker 6: After when it took off past me, not when it
Speaker 6: was right next to me. I couldn't see down, but
Speaker 6: I could see it's back. That's what I was watching,
Speaker 6: Like it's back and because it was like slightly behind,
Speaker 6: you know, so I can see it's back and shoulders
Speaker 6: like moving and the muscular chair moving as it was
Speaker 6: running beside me.
Speaker 2: How did it run like did it seem like a
Speaker 2: horse or a bear or a dog? Like did it
Speaker 2: reminds you or deer did like like the motion of it,
Speaker 2: did it? Could you get a sense of that? Was
Speaker 2: it fluid or the jerky awkward kind of No.
Speaker 6: It was fluid, so maybe not like a bear because
Speaker 6: you know how bear's lumber, you know, and not like
Speaker 6: a bear at all. It was fluid. Maybe more like
Speaker 6: a horse a little bit, but not exactly because her
Speaker 6: horses are a little more jerky.
Speaker 4: Was this was the front end up like something that
Speaker 4: will describe it, almost.
Speaker 2: Like hya when they're on the all fours, like the lobe,
Speaker 2: back end, like the butt ends much lower than the
Speaker 2: in the front.
Speaker 6: I couldn't see that because it was right next to me,
Speaker 6: so I was looking directly at its like back and shoulders.
Speaker 4: How why would you suspect the shoulders were just guessing,
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 6: Know, like maybe four feet pretty wide, pretty wide and
Speaker 6: like tapered down. It didn't have like hips or nothing.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 6: It was sort of V shaped, but like muscular enough legs.
Speaker 6: They weren't like skinny stick legs. You know. It was
Speaker 6: hard to see the like the musculature there because it
Speaker 6: was like furry, you know, as I was standing up.
Speaker 6: But you know, I've been thinking about all this time,
Speaker 6: like I don't remember seeing like a butt or nothing.
Speaker 6: You know, I wasn't focused on that. It was so quick,
Speaker 6: you know, I thought, well, shoot, I don't remember that
Speaker 6: part of it. I remember its shoulders, and again, like
Speaker 6: I said, my brain was trying to compute what am
Speaker 6: I seeing and make it fit like things that I knew,
Speaker 6: and dismissing it. And by that point when I'm like,
Speaker 6: that is not a bear. It's running next to me.
Speaker 6: So I couldn't see much more of its anatomy. I
Speaker 6: didn't see like it's chest or abdomen or anything like that.
Speaker 4: Was the hair equally thick, like was it thick all
Speaker 4: the way down?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 6: I feel like it tapered off a little bit around
Speaker 6: like the waist and hips, not like skin showing. It
Speaker 6: just wasn't as thick. It wasn't like looking at my
Speaker 6: frame of reference right now was like solely from Monsters, inc.
Speaker 6: You know, where the furs like equally shaggy and so
Speaker 6: it appears round. It didn't look like that. It didn't
Speaker 6: look like that.
Speaker 5: Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and
Speaker 5: Bobo will be right back after these messages, So.
Speaker 4: You said it took off like a rocket.
Speaker 2: So if you were driving say twenty at this point,
Speaker 2: did it like double your speed when it took off
Speaker 2: that sort of thing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, it went fast. It was probably going at
Speaker 6: least thirty five into the brush. It took off at
Speaker 6: that point. It was like a streak.
Speaker 2: People say it's like a cartoon. Almost seen them, like,
Speaker 2: it's almost like watching a cartoon.
Speaker 4: They're so fast.
Speaker 6: Yeah. No, it was very fast. It was pretty incredible.
Speaker 6: That's when I was like, all right, well I'm going
Speaker 6: to just keep going. That's done now, you know, I'm
Speaker 6: going to my go to poor Gram she passed away
Speaker 6: a year ago, but she was always my go to
Speaker 6: for all the things. You know. I got to get
Speaker 6: home and tell Graham about this one.
Speaker 4: What'd she say?
Speaker 6: She was like, why were you being so disruptive? You
Speaker 6: couldn't have slowed down or turned your music down? Geez?
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: Oh, so she thought I was there to tell you, like, hey,
Speaker 2: you're kind of disrespecting the area.
Speaker 4: I hear what you're doing. Is that what her depression was?
Speaker 6: No, she was she just like to give me heck
Speaker 6: because you know, I was just because that's what Graham
Speaker 6: did you know? So, No, she was she she just
Speaker 6: said exactly all the things I've said. Yeah, you know
Speaker 6: there are things interdimensional. They don't live here all the time.
Speaker 6: They can come and go. If they show themselves to you,
Speaker 6: it's for a purpose, you know, think about what it
Speaker 6: is that their lives are like, you know, they have purpose.
Speaker 6: So you know, who knows he was just out here
Speaker 6: for a minute enjoying the sunset. You know, I did
Speaker 6: get the sense without any evidence that it was male,
Speaker 6: just for I don't know why, but that's the sense
Speaker 6: that I got.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that the V shaped ones are usually
Speaker 4: the males.
Speaker 2: The females have a wider hip like like like human females,
Speaker 2: you know, they have like the wider yeah for the
Speaker 2: birth can of and all that and they so, yeah,
Speaker 2: they're much.
Speaker 4: More shaped like a block or an apple ors.
Speaker 2: The males are fully triangular V shaped like wild shoulders
Speaker 2: and more tapered waist.
Speaker 6: I wish that I could be more descriptive about the
Speaker 6: face because it was so shocking. But what I do
Speaker 6: remember it was like, you know, smaller features. It didn't
Speaker 6: have like overly large features. I'm trying not to replace
Speaker 6: like known things like it certainly didn't look like a
Speaker 6: gorilla or a primate. It really sort of looks.
Speaker 4: Human ibout, the nose.
Speaker 6: Broad, a little broader, kind of flat, but not huge,
Speaker 6: you know, not big.
Speaker 3: Can I ask when this happened, Rachel.
Speaker 6: Yeah, this would have been like in the summer of
Speaker 6: probably two thousand and three or four. It's just I
Speaker 6: can't even tell you a month I was just I
Speaker 6: was up there that particular year. I think it was
Speaker 6: two thousand and three.
Speaker 3: As No, it's like very close to the time that
Speaker 3: I saw it, saw the same similar thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my setting was about that mile and a half
Speaker 2: from there, and mine was May twenty first, May twenty six,
Speaker 2: two thousand and one.
Speaker 4: Interesting on the same road.
Speaker 6: What my own marker were you at?
Speaker 4: You think for the sighting?
Speaker 2: Well, for when I had that crazy encounter, I was
Speaker 2: two and a half miles from a fire station on
Speaker 2: If you're anyone looking on Google Maps, you go to
Speaker 2: or California O R I c K. You go, like
Speaker 2: if you look up wald Hills Road just north of town,
Speaker 2: it travels east east, southeast, southeast, and fifteen.
Speaker 4: Road miles up is Johnson Road.
Speaker 2: There's a cal Fire CDF forest fire station there on
Speaker 2: the corner of Johnson Road, and Johnson only goes.
Speaker 4: Left to the north and you go left up there.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's it's so changed that they've logged
Speaker 2: everything up there.
Speaker 4: It's it's I couldn't even like.
Speaker 2: It took me a couple of tries to find where
Speaker 2: I had my sighting because it was so looks so
Speaker 2: completely different.
Speaker 6: I don't even recognize the road at some point, you know,
Speaker 6: they've logged so much, and I've been going up through
Speaker 6: my whole life. All the landmarks that I had are
Speaker 6: going you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, for real, it's weird. It's strange, all right.
Speaker 2: It was anything else, anything else that you can maybe
Speaker 2: you forgot to mention earlier, that stands out to you
Speaker 2: at all.
Speaker 3: I'm just so blown away about about how similar our
Speaker 3: two stories are, even though she had something that like
Speaker 3: ran alongside her vehicle whereas whatever, and I think it
Speaker 3: might have been because of my dog that scared whatever
Speaker 3: it was off, But so similar.
Speaker 6: Some other crazy person who no, like I said, I mean,
Speaker 6: these are old stories. So there's lots of us, lots
Speaker 6: of us around here who if we haven't seen them,
Speaker 6: we've grown up with the stories and know who these
Speaker 6: people are.
Speaker 2: You know, so the stigma was definitely diminishing, like you know,
Speaker 2: like just even when the twenty twenty five years ago, nowadays,
Speaker 2: it's so much more acceptable to say.
Speaker 4: You solve them without being everyone just going what the
Speaker 4: hell are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Like, you know a lot of people don't go, oh,
Speaker 2: really what, they don't laugh, they go, really, what happened?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 6: They're not like, okay, you know X files or whatever. Well,
Speaker 6: I'm really happy that we finally sat down to do this.
Speaker 6: I know we've been talking about it for a while,
Speaker 6: so I appreciate your patience.
Speaker 4: Hey, thanks so much for coming on.
Speaker 2: That was great. I've been looking forward to this for
Speaker 2: a long time. Know the people listening to this appreciate
Speaker 2: you coming on and sharing their stories. It's it's really
Speaker 2: for me, it's just so's it's where I had my
Speaker 2: first major encounter and then five days there I had
Speaker 2: my first sighting. So for me, it's always you know,
Speaker 2: like it's got that you know, it's my first time.
Speaker 6: Well, thank you so much for asking me to come on.
Speaker 6: I appreciate it. And yeah, let me know we'll hang
Speaker 6: out and chat some more.
Speaker 4: Sounds great. Thanks Rachel.
Speaker 6: All right, take care and thank you too.
Speaker 2: Amy. That was awesome you came on and told that story.
Speaker 2: I've mentioned it on the air for years and years,
Speaker 2: so now that people got to hear it from straight
Speaker 2: from the horse's mouth. Okay, folks, thanks so much for
Speaker 2: tuning in and listening. We appreciate the support, and until
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