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<v Speaker 1>It's nice eye, Dan Ray. I'm Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. We are talking about the debate tonight that occurred.

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<v Speaker 2>That was it was hosted by w BZTV in the

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<v Speaker 2>Boston Globe at WBZ Studios Overn soldiers Field Road, and

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<v Speaker 2>we had a little bit of difficulty connecting with it.

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<v Speaker 2>We aired it. We were supposed to air its entirety

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<v Speaker 2>from eight thirty to nine thirty. It took rob and

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<v Speaker 2>through no fault of rob By the way, he did

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<v Speaker 2>everything he could to get the audio feed on, we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get the audio feed until about eighty forty five,

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<v Speaker 2>So you heard about three quarters of the debate. I

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<v Speaker 2>missed the first fifteen minutes because I was talking about

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<v Speaker 2>missing the first fifteen minutes. I'd love to know who

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<v Speaker 2>you thought one of the debate and why. So we're

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<v Speaker 2>just talking about that. All opinions are more than welcome

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<v Speaker 2>here because there's no right or wrong in this one.

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<v Speaker 2>It's what you felt. Let's keep rolling here. Going to

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<v Speaker 2>go next to Steve in. Steve you a first this

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<v Speaker 2>hour night side. Welcome.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how you doing. I looked in to these guys

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<v Speaker 3>talk about, you know, immigrate here and this and that

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<v Speaker 3>and it's all about money. And if you want to

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<v Speaker 3>stop immigration, I'm waiting to hear one of these politicians

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<v Speaker 3>say that they're gonna stop fighting companies uh and uh,

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<v Speaker 3>closing companies down that are hiring all these illegals. That's

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<v Speaker 3>why they're coming. You got you got all these companies.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you. Any I would agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Any company that doesn't do due diligence and is found

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<v Speaker 2>to be hiring someone who's here illegally is potentially taking

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<v Speaker 2>a job from an American citizen who would like to have

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<v Speaker 2>that exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>That's and that's what I'm saying. If they start doing that,

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<v Speaker 3>closing these companies down, finding them, I guarantee you you'll

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<v Speaker 3>stop the illegal immigration. They're not gonna come because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>no company is going to hire them. You know, they're

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<v Speaker 3>telling all their families, come on up here. I can

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<v Speaker 3>get you a job there. You know, if you go

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<v Speaker 3>to a restaurant, you know, you get all the Americans

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<v Speaker 3>out front working and stuff and everything, go back into

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<v Speaker 3>the kitchen and stuff, and see who's back there doing

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<v Speaker 3>all the cooking and stuff. You get all their legals

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<v Speaker 3>back there. They're all back there in all these major companies.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything I've said for years. Not to interrupt to Steve,

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<v Speaker 2>but I've said for years that the reasons that our

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<v Speaker 2>borders are so open is that Democrats have seen the

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<v Speaker 2>rush of people coming across the border as potential voters.

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<v Speaker 2>They're seeing in this election that a lot of black voters,

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<v Speaker 2>who are traditionally Democratic voters are now taking a very

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<v Speaker 2>serious look at Donald Trump and the Republican Party. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>see what happens on November fifth if that curiosity turns

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<v Speaker 2>into reality. But the Democrats are saying, look, let's get

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<v Speaker 2>these in the country's let's get them legal, and they'll

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<v Speaker 2>be more likely than not to be Democratic voter. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Republicans are looking at them at country club.

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans are saying, hey, who's going to do our lawns,

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<v Speaker 2>who's going to landscape our yards? Who's going to pick

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<v Speaker 2>the crops? And they look at them as cheap labor.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where I think we are as a country.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they hire them legal legal, hire them legally,

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<v Speaker 3>and I mean get get get a which calls that

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<v Speaker 3>coming to the country legally. But if they hate illegally,

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<v Speaker 3>the companies that are hiring them, like I said, if

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<v Speaker 3>these companies you start finding them, closing them down, taking

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<v Speaker 3>licenses away for different stuff, they won't they won't be

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<v Speaker 3>Uh you'll see, you'll see a big dropping illegals coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well it's not it's not fair. If if you

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<v Speaker 2>are in a country company fairly and you only hire Americans,

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<v Speaker 2>and you pay above the board, you pay above the table,

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<v Speaker 2>and I run a company that's a cop competitive to yours.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say we both have landscaping companies. We're in the

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<v Speaker 2>same area. Your costs are going to be one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>percent legal, Mike, They're going to be maybe fifty percent legal,

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<v Speaker 2>fifty percent I legal. I'm going to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>undercut your prices. It's as simple as that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's what's going on. That's what's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it all right. I happen to agree with you, Steve.

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<v Speaker 2>You're you're preaching the choir last one, that's for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you much.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted all these politicians. I want to hear one

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<v Speaker 3>of these politicians put a law roll deal like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Any company hiring illegals, the laws exists.

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<v Speaker 2>Already they need to be Well, here's the deal, Steve,

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<v Speaker 2>those laws exist already. They simply need to be enforced.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not being enforced.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's what they need to be enforced.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir, yeah, sure, Well that's where they have they

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<v Speaker 2>have the laws in the books. It's like if all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, everybody's going on a fifty five mile

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<v Speaker 2>an hour speed limit going eighty miles an hour. The

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<v Speaker 2>laws and the books you got to stop people from speed,

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<v Speaker 2>and you pull them over. If you don't pull them over,

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<v Speaker 2>if you go eighty and I see that you're getting,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm probably go well, I'll do seventy five.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, simple as that. All right, Thank you, Steve.

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<v Speaker 2>Good night night, good night you too. Six month seven

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<v Speaker 2>two four ten thirty one line there, six months seven

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<v Speaker 2>nine three one ten thirty. Let me go next to

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<v Speaker 2>Pelvis in Middleton, Massachusetts. Pelvis, how are you tonight?

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<v Speaker 5>Good Dan, how are you just great? I just want

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<v Speaker 5>to I want to clear up something real quick. So

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<v Speaker 5>I own a high scale landscape company on the north Shore.

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<v Speaker 5>I've had a bunch of Guatemalgas working with me forever.

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<v Speaker 5>I had two brothers that took them ten years to

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<v Speaker 5>get vetted here under the previous you know, the previous

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<v Speaker 5>rules were they used to go to Boston every year

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<v Speaker 5>and have to prove that they were living here illegally

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<v Speaker 5>for ten years before they were vetted as citizens here,

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<v Speaker 5>before they could even apply to be citizens. Under this

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<v Speaker 5>administration twenty twenty two, when he's they're bringing their cousins

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<v Speaker 5>over here, they're being brought over here with a t

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<v Speaker 5>I number. They no longer want cash. At this point,

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<v Speaker 5>I was paying these guys twenty five to thirty dollars

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<v Speaker 5>an hour to cut grass in a very high end,

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<v Speaker 5>you know town in North Shore, Okay, Okay. The under

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<v Speaker 5>the assumption that they were going legitimately for the illegal citizenship.

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<v Speaker 5>They had families here, They were trying to do it

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<v Speaker 5>the right way. Out of this administration, these people that

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<v Speaker 5>come over here are being assigned TI N numbers. They

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<v Speaker 5>don't want cash anymore. They want to check because out

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<v Speaker 5>of the Biden administration, if you pay a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>of tax and you put in work, and you stay

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<v Speaker 5>out of trouble, you are fast track citizenship. In one year,

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<v Speaker 5>you could apply for citizenship. If you have that tax ID,

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<v Speaker 5>you've paid your taxes, you're now a Democratic vote or whatever,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean, Like, no, I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 5>That's where it's kind of get my real quick. I

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<v Speaker 5>just want to tell you something about like when people say,

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<v Speaker 5>some of these people are coming over here legitimately to

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<v Speaker 5>start nice lives and good families, and you know, church going.

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<v Speaker 5>The church is a big part of this. I knew

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<v Speaker 5>the amount of church that are bringing these people over here.

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<v Speaker 5>But on top of that, I had a guy with

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<v Speaker 5>me for seven years on the North Shore. Between me

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<v Speaker 5>and my cousin, we both own you know, like I said,

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<v Speaker 5>the Heartscape Company whatever we used the same guy. He

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<v Speaker 5>put in sixty hours a week. He busted himself to

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<v Speaker 5>the wall for us.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>An Ice agent recognized his face back in February of

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<v Speaker 5>last year up in the North Shore Mall. They took

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<v Speaker 5>him in under child rape charges. He was deported back

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<v Speaker 5>in two thousand and nine. He came back over here

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<v Speaker 5>under a different name, worked his way back in and

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<v Speaker 5>set up shop with us. We had no idea his background,

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<v Speaker 5>none of that. Thank god. He wasn't wearing my company

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<v Speaker 5>garb or none of that. But like the whole thing

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<v Speaker 5>is like you don't know what these people are capable of.

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<v Speaker 5>This whole thing was like the gangs that are happening

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<v Speaker 5>in New York. Ecuadorian gangs, the Venezuelan gangs. It's a

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<v Speaker 5>real threat. And I really think they set and this

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<v Speaker 5>is the presidential thing. They set Trump up to fail

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<v Speaker 5>because they bait him on the cook and the dogs

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<v Speaker 5>and all the other nonsense, when really you just stick

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<v Speaker 5>to the topics and get to the bottom of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know, I think if I could just jump

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<v Speaker 2>in for a second, no one dated Trump on that

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<v Speaker 2>story out of Springfield, Ohio, which was not No one

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<v Speaker 2>has ever proven it, okay, number one, and there have

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<v Speaker 2>been plenty of opportunities. I'm sure Fox sent cruise out

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<v Speaker 2>there to find people. He started here. He pulled it

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<v Speaker 2>like like a rabbit out of the hat in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of this debate, and they're eating dogs and cats

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<v Speaker 2>in Springfield, Ohio. I'm sure somebody center I read a story.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that someone said to him.

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<v Speaker 5>But Dan, this is where he's hurting himself, right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>now you've got people going in, they can go and vote.

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<v Speaker 5>They don't have to prove like who they are. These

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<v Speaker 5>guys use different names, aliases, whatever. If you don't have

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<v Speaker 5>to prove who you are when you're going to the polls.

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<v Speaker 5>Then when you've got a guy comeing out saying that

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<v Speaker 5>he's going to promise mass deportation, of course those are

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<v Speaker 5>votes for her. And I hate to say it, but

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<v Speaker 5>you know, whatever he's planning on doing to fix the country,

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<v Speaker 5>keep it tight, lift, keep it to yourself. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>the fact that he's the Chicago thing was a debacle.

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<v Speaker 5>When he's saying he's taking them, you know, they're taking

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<v Speaker 5>the black jobs. Sometimes he just needs to real in.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it sucks. These are the only two choices

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<v Speaker 5>we have, but I would rather vote for Vance, to

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<v Speaker 5>be honest with you, I think he's out of the

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<v Speaker 5>there's no other choices. We have no choice here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know the immigrants on the floor of them.

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<v Speaker 2>But Vance is the most impressive in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 5>Because he was respectful to Wallace. He was actually that

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<v Speaker 5>debate was actually watchable. The other ones were. And we'll

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<v Speaker 5>see how Harris does tomorrow on Fox News Free Karen Read.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all I got. She would probably do pretty well.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way. Brett Baar is a gentleman. And I

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<v Speaker 2>assume that.

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<v Speaker 1>Obama.

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<v Speaker 2>I assume that she will have her answers down and

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<v Speaker 2>I think she might come out of that. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that it's going to be the so called got

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<v Speaker 2>your moment there because I think I think berber will

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<v Speaker 2>treat her professionally, and she's probably this is a smart

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<v Speaker 2>thing for her to do, in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, got her smart earrings, Watch her smart earrings. We'll

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<v Speaker 5>see if Obama's in her ear tomorrow night.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm checking out.

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<v Speaker 2>I think. Let me tell you something, and somebody, you

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<v Speaker 2>got to watch the language here, gotta watch the lange.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry, I got to you. I'm sorry, I'm forty

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<v Speaker 5>four years old. But like I'm arguing back and forth

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<v Speaker 5>with these people, I'm like, nobody can tell me a

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<v Speaker 5>reason or a policy that they're voting for her for

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<v Speaker 5>other than the fact they're voting for her because of

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<v Speaker 5>their disdain for him. And that's not the way to

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<v Speaker 5>go about this. That's insane. Nobody has any legitimate reason

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<v Speaker 5>why they want four more years of what we've been

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<v Speaker 5>But I mean I wish, I wish Harris was never nominated.

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<v Speaker 2>Picked Donald Trump. The Republican Party had a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>he should get Nicky Haley, go to him, go with

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<v Speaker 5>The cap Nick Haley would to help him big time. Dan, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know won't allow anyone else. He would

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<v Speaker 5>But in my opinion, when you've got maniacal world leaders

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<v Speaker 4>I can't.

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<v Speaker 5>They must be licking at chomps of the fact that

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<v Speaker 5>I've shaking hands Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>That is Donald Trump's fault. That's not their fault.

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<v Speaker 5>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump's faults back to his ego.

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<v Speaker 4>You're right, Dan, You're.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Hey, to put it like that. We'll have to

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<v Speaker 2>gotta run, Thanks Pelvis, Okay, all right, all right, thanks much.

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<v Speaker 2>Why were you a break, Robert? Now I'm I do

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<v Speaker 2>Sarge South Carolina, Matt and Brighton, and I got some

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<v Speaker 2>great call in you six one, seven, two, five, four

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World. Nice, thanks, studios,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm w busy news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, back we go where we're gonna go to? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Serge in South Carolina, Serge, welcome. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>I've had you on the show before. How are you tonight?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 7>Pretty good? Fair in the middling, Dan Ray, A citation everybody.

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<v Speaker 7>I hope you had a happy Indigenous People's Day.

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<v Speaker 2>I probably love to stay in a happy Indigenous People's

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<v Speaker 2>Day and a happy happy Monday as well.

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<v Speaker 8>Exactly, I have a different celebration.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a difference celebration yesterday. Okay, my mom. It

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<v Speaker 2>would have been my mom's one hundred and fourteenth birthday.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>I spent some time thinking about her. She was born

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<v Speaker 2>on October fourteenth, the same day that Dwight David. Not

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<v Speaker 2>the same day, but well the same year, the same

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<v Speaker 2>day as Dwight David. Iisenhower, President Eisenhower.

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<v Speaker 7>What was the year my mom?

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<v Speaker 2>Do the math? She was born in nineteen ten.

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<v Speaker 7>Wow, that is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>And as everyone thinks. I hope their mother was the

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<v Speaker 2>my mom. Yeah, I'm sure that's the way you feel

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, yes, Before I get into my topic, let me

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<v Speaker 7>chair a little note. This kind of intervened with yours

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<v Speaker 7>and all that. I'm blueped all over the world man,

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<v Speaker 7>and all that, both coasts New Hampshire and State Seattle,

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<v Speaker 7>You know, grew up in Turkey, Britain, married in Germany,

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<v Speaker 2>So we got background, is what you're telling her, Yes.

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<v Speaker 7>Sir, Air Force Police special operations.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that same to you, sir. A number of years

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<v Speaker 7>ago you heard of the Buffalo Soldiers, correct, yes, sir, right,

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<v Speaker 7>a little bit. But High Chaparral had a great episode

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<v Speaker 7>called The Buffalo Soldiers and Cameron Mitchell, the actor, you're

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<v Speaker 7>It will almost bring you to just astonishment and everything

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<v Speaker 7>and all. But the last living Buffalo Soldier was from Richmond,

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<v Speaker 2>You know, an opportunity to interview Arthur Ash Benny years ago. Wonderful, wonderful.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you're lucky, Doug. Okay, now let me get into

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<v Speaker 7>the topic. I've heard this story on and on again.

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<v Speaker 7>It's really driving me nuts and all that baddie you know, debbie,

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>But but Donald Trump is doing better with with the

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and you know what, I just got through calling

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<v Speaker 7>that new flat No, I am a black man, remembering

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<v Speaker 4>I wish I had.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think anybody. I don't think in all, in

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<v Speaker 2>all honesty, sergeant, I don't think anyone is saying that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're saying that there there seems to be

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<v Speaker 2>he did it. He did it an event in the Bronx,

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<v Speaker 2>which drew a pretty good sized crowd. But you know

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on. It is, let's see what happens on

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<v Speaker 2>election day, and they'll do the the exit polls and well,

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<v Speaker 2>well it's almost like talking about a super Bowl. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm convinced that the Patriots are going to win. And

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<v Speaker 7>You know, yes, vote vote, and they don't hold it

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<v Speaker 2>You for taking against anybody. I hope I hope that

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<v Speaker 2>everyone turns around, at least for a while and says, Okay, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure that's gonna happen, but I'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>think it would. We lost them there, Yeah we did, Sarge.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't cut you off. We lost you apologize. See

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<v Speaker 2>that was a good call, Sarge, called back any time.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know the vagaries of cell phones. It's as

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<v Speaker 2>simple as that. Okay. I have one line at six, one, seven, two, five,

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<v Speaker 2>to call, call now, because those of you who are

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<v Speaker 2>going to wait till call in. I've had some callers

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to play that game anymore. I'd love

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to try to avoid that impulse. I've tried

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<v Speaker 2>So call in six months seven two, five four ten thirty,

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<v Speaker 2>six months seven nine three one ten thirty. I look

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<v Speaker 2>we have five lines here. When the lines are full,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're the fifth caller, for the most part, we're

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<v Speaker 2>they came. I think it's fair. That's that's why Matt

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<v Speaker 2>fill them up. We've had some great calls tonight, including

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<v Speaker 2>Sergeant's call. We've had some great calls tonight, and you

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<v Speaker 2>can you have a great call. Make it right now

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<v Speaker 2>six months seven two five four ten thirty or six

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<v Speaker 1>It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBS, Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's keep rolling here. We have full lines and

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<v Speaker 2>I will get everybody in and everyone have a good

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to say their piece, which is what Nightside's all about. Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>go right ahead, Matt and brighten your next on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 8>We doing Dan, I'm doing great.

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<v Speaker 2>But did you watch the debate tonight with Senator Lauren

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<v Speaker 9>Unfortunately I did not, but I can tell you without

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<v Speaker 1>Of what was said.

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<v Speaker 9>But I no, no, no, nevertheless, I do wish your

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<v Speaker 9>you know absolutely yesterday serves a purpose for a day

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<v Speaker 9>that is on the calendar in any ways, one thing

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<v Speaker 9>had mentioned that potentially Nikki Hayley or something of that

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<v Speaker 9>sort may have been a more viable candidate, or may

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<v Speaker 9>even more viable. And you would say, you know which,

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<v Speaker 9>I agree with Donald Trump and never have allowed someone

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<v Speaker 9>to be anybody. But you know what it is, he

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<v Speaker 9>never would allow Nicky Hill. So do you think I'm

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<v Speaker 9>not trying to put it on you, per se, but

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<v Speaker 9>do you think Nicki Haley would out of mean to

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<v Speaker 9>be to say Nicky Hilly would have been a better

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<v Speaker 9>choice for president?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 7>No, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>The point, well, the point that I was making that

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<v Speaker 2>I've made throughout the year, and I think you listen regularly.

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<v Speaker 2>I always thought Donald Trump could win the Republican nomination

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<v Speaker 2>because his base is so fiercely loyal. But I doubt,

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<v Speaker 2>and I still doubt, frankly, whether or not he will

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<v Speaker 2>win the final election because I keep looking at these

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<v Speaker 2>poll numbers and I very rarely see him getting even

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<v Speaker 2>close to fifty. Now I know that he doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>to win more votes to win the election, because in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty sixteen, Hillary Clinton won more votes, just as as

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<v Speaker 2>al Gore did in two thousand. So most people don't

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<v Speaker 2>understand the electoral college. So I think that he has

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<v Speaker 2>an inherent advantage as long as he can keep it close.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I was saying was, if Donald Trump really

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to win this election right now, he would spend

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<v Speaker 2>the next three weeks campaigning with Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis,

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<v Speaker 2>because Ron DeSantis has just shown the nation as the

447
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<v Speaker 2>governor of Florida what a competent governor dons does in

448
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<v Speaker 2>the face of two crises, Hurricane Helen and Hurricane I'm

449
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<v Speaker 2>trying to think of the second Milton, Hurricane Milton and

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<v Speaker 2>Governor Haley, former Ambassador Haley, I think could go a

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<v Speaker 2>long way to helping women voters who may be inclined

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<v Speaker 2>to support Vice President Harris to go back to the

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<v Speaker 2>Republican Party. But I don't think Donald Trump will be

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<v Speaker 2>smart enough, or I guess I don't know. It isn't

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<v Speaker 2>a question being smart or intelligent.

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<v Speaker 9>But go down, go down enough that he would not.

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<v Speaker 2>Understand that he would rather lose alone than win with

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<v Speaker 2>the help of Haley and Desantas and and that to

459
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<v Speaker 2>me is an ego, uh block that is that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>just to me is unaccepted. It's like being a ball team.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if if if you can pick up a

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<v Speaker 2>better player for the Pennant Drive, and you don't want

463
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<v Speaker 2>to have somebody say, no, we don't want that guy

464
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<v Speaker 2>because you know we're gonna we were twenty five guys

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, look, sometimes you have to add somebody

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<v Speaker 2>to to to accomplished, to get it over the humps

467
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<v Speaker 2>that we're going win the World Series. And same way

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<v Speaker 2>with this this election. I don't don't you think that

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<v Speaker 2>Nikki Haley would bring more voters. I mean, Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>has his base of forty six or forty seven. That's

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<v Speaker 2>not going anywhere, okay, but he's not gonna win with

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<v Speaker 2>forty six or forty seven percent.

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<v Speaker 9>No, I mean, And that's where I was gonna say.

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<v Speaker 9>Much of my worry is, I think I've been you know,

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<v Speaker 9>I you know you and I have you know, I've

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<v Speaker 9>made my comments and stuff on your Live or whatever.

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<v Speaker 9>And that's where much of my worry actually actually has

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<v Speaker 9>come in, is that if it goes down to the

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<v Speaker 9>electoral college with these major states, will he be able

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<v Speaker 9>to take Atlanta. Yeah, he'll probably be able to take Florida.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't see if he couldn't, but oh he would

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<v Speaker 8>never enough if look, if Trump doesn't carry Florida, Uh,

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<v Speaker 8>then if it's a blowout win for Harris.

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<v Speaker 2>If Harris doesn't carry oh, let's say Virginia, I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>about states that you know theoretically, or Minnesota. Let's assume

486
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<v Speaker 2>that that Harris doesn't carry Minnesota, it's a blowout win

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<v Speaker 2>for Donald Trump. Because if that if, if if Trump

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<v Speaker 2>were to win Minnesota, that means he wins Wisconsin, he

489
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<v Speaker 2>wins Michigan, and he probably wins Pennsylvania. If Harris were

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<v Speaker 2>to win Florida, that means she wins Florida, she wins Georgia,

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<v Speaker 2>she wins North Carolina, because you know, Florida has to

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<v Speaker 2>be from Trump's perspective, a given. So you look at

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<v Speaker 2>these these these these you know, variations here, and and

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<v Speaker 2>you begin to see and you say, Okay, Massachusetts, that's

495
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<v Speaker 2>going to Vice President Harris no matter what.

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<v Speaker 9>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And Wyoming's going to Donald Trump no matter what. You

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<v Speaker 2>could take you take the states off the board, and

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<v Speaker 2>you see what it comes down to. It comes down

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<v Speaker 2>to seven or eight states. And I think at this point,

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<v Speaker 2>although I think the Harris campaign is losing some steam,

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<v Speaker 2>I keep looking at all the different poll numbers. I

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<v Speaker 2>look at him every day, and I'm not routing either way.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm to be honest with you, I want whoever wins

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<v Speaker 2>to be accepted as president of the United States by everyone.

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<v Speaker 9>No, and I agree, I mean, well, ultimately I find that,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, look, as long as everything's done you know,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, kosher so to speak. Bay, as long as

509
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<v Speaker 9>everything's done correctly, the winner is the you know, winner

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<v Speaker 9>by how we have our voting systems set up in

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<v Speaker 9>this country, as long as it's done correctly, and I

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<v Speaker 9>will go by that winner. And that to me is

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<v Speaker 9>ultimately whether I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy or not.

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<v Speaker 5>For me, that's who I'll have to say.

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<v Speaker 9>This is the winner, and this is I'm going to

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<v Speaker 9>go with for the next four years.

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<v Speaker 2>Well four years, but you got to give the person

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to governor give them a chance to whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And if after six months it's a disaster, then then

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<v Speaker 2>ramp it up. Hey, Matt, I gotta keep rolling here.

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<v Speaker 2>You got seven minutes more than anyone else gets. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>let me keep rolling. You're going to go to Henry

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<v Speaker 2>in Sutton, Massachusetts, Henry next on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I am seventy eight years, seventy eight years old,

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<v Speaker 5>all the five nineteen forty six. I just turned seventy

527
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<v Speaker 5>eight years old, and I wanted to tell that last

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<v Speaker 5>caller he doesn't want any hanky panky. Well, they just

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<v Speaker 5>announced earlier today that in the state of Virginia that

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<v Speaker 5>they're already lawsuits are already in place. They're already they've

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<v Speaker 5>already filed lawsuits with the state of Virginia because they

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<v Speaker 5>won't let them look at the machines, the old voting machines.

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<v Speaker 5>In the state of Pennsylvania, they already announced a week

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<v Speaker 5>ago that it's going to take a couple of days,

535
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<v Speaker 5>which is a lie. But they said it's going to

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<v Speaker 5>take a couple of days to count all the votes.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm seventy eight years old and my whole life had

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<v Speaker 5>never took two days to count the votes. So we

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<v Speaker 5>know they're lying there. So the fix is already on.

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<v Speaker 5>They're going to do everything they can the Democrats. That's

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<v Speaker 5>the cheat. I am not supporting Elizabeth Warren. Going back,

542
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<v Speaker 5>going back to the debate though, why I called is.

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<v Speaker 5>I watched it. I am not supporting Elizabeth Warren at all.

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<v Speaker 5>I never will forget about her. I did this is

545
00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:22.000
<v Speaker 5>anyway not supporting her. But but the fix is already

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<v Speaker 5>on people and they didn't make it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, hold on, Henry, I'm not as old as you,

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<v Speaker 2>but I've been around a while, and let me just

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<v Speaker 2>say this. Okay. First of all, there have been close

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<v Speaker 2>elections in this country. You know, George Bush won by

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred and twenty seven votes in Florida. Okay, and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot that's right.

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<v Speaker 7>I know?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

555
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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>And are they people who vote illegally? Yes, unsadly, sadly.

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<v Speaker 5>What I've got to do with it?

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<v Speaker 6>What are you?

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<v Speaker 5>Where is your point going? I'm telling you that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what I'm telling you is, I'm disagreeing with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think the fix is in, and I do

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<v Speaker 2>not believe the fix was in in twenty twenty. I

563
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<v Speaker 2>think that well.

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<v Speaker 5>You also you also lie to the people of my

565
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<v Speaker 5>hometown because I've been listening to WBZ for seventy who

566
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<v Speaker 5>he is since my mother, since I've been six years old.

567
00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:15.799
<v Speaker 5>I attended one Boston Braves game when I was a

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<v Speaker 5>little boy on Commers Street, my father. My father took

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<v Speaker 5>me one time on Thomas, but that was a long

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<v Speaker 5>time ago. I've been listening to w Abzu Licks what

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<v Speaker 5>was his name?

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<v Speaker 2>So what what's your head?

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<v Speaker 5>Mary?

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<v Speaker 2>Argumentative with you? All I'm saying is that for anyone

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<v Speaker 2>at this point to save the fixes in, you're you're

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<v Speaker 2>a gentleman who's going to influence the point of view

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<v Speaker 2>of other people. You might believe that, but it's like

578
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<v Speaker 2>it's like someone who says to me, well, the fix

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<v Speaker 2>is in and the Patriots game next week. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>believe that.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean talking about it. We're talking about apples and orange,

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<v Speaker 5>just about an election, and we're.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking, we're talking about I'm not talking.

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<v Speaker 5>About well, not talking about what's your profit?

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<v Speaker 2>James Amy, with all due respect, what is your proof

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<v Speaker 2>of that? There's not our.

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<v Speaker 5>It's in the It's in the Newsweek magazine. I just

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<v Speaker 5>read it. It said that the Virginia common away, but

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00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:18.599
<v Speaker 5>Virginia there is a lawsuit in because they're not being

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<v Speaker 5>transparent with the voting machines. They believe they're going to

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<v Speaker 5>be hooked up to the internet. Go to Newsweek magazine.

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<v Speaker 5>It was just announced five hours ago, a week ago

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<v Speaker 5>in the Philadelphia Enquirer. The Philadelphia Enquirer is no different

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<v Speaker 5>than the Boston Glo over the New York Times. The

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<v Speaker 5>Philadelphia Enquirer made a statement, it's going to take a

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<v Speaker 5>couple of days to count the votes. Why are you

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<v Speaker 5>going to.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to try to get it right. And I'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell you what if the votes don't come in in

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<v Speaker 2>Philadelphia at a certain level for Vice President Harris, you

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00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:49.839
<v Speaker 2>then can look at you can look at precincts. You

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00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:52.480
<v Speaker 2>can look and say, look, she needs to carry this

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<v Speaker 2>area of Philadelphia by you know, seven to one or

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<v Speaker 2>eight to one, and she's not doing it. Look, Henry,

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<v Speaker 2>have a little more faith in this, okay, Because well.

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<v Speaker 5>I would have faith in the system of people would

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<v Speaker 5>have covered the fraud that happened four years ago. Remember

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<v Speaker 5>a Biden didn't win. Any Biden didn't by Hillary.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a heart attack on my show. Come on,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, Please feel free to call any other night.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll continue the conversation. But I think you and I

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<v Speaker 2>are diametrically opposed in this. I'm a guy who looks

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<v Speaker 2>at the glass it's half full. I think you look

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<v Speaker 2>at it as it's half empty. We might both be

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00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:34.839
<v Speaker 2>right half full, half empty, but please, Henry, please have

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<v Speaker 2>a little more faith in the system. You and I

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<v Speaker 2>are of that both of us are on the wrong

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<v Speaker 2>side of fifty. Let's try to get it right this time,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's try to pass this country on to the

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<v Speaker 2>next generation in as good as shape as we inherited it.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I'm on half full side as well. I am

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<v Speaker 5>being realistically, Henry, I got to run, I got three

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<v Speaker 5>more behind you, and I got a news a commercial break.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you called before? I don't recall us chatting before?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this your first time? I hope Henry has learned

626
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<v Speaker 2>to swim. You know, you treat someone as a gentleman,

627
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<v Speaker 2>and that's what you get in response. That's sad. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel badly for Henry. Actually, I visualize him as sitting there,

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<v Speaker 2>convinced of his own opinion beyond any question of a doubt,

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<v Speaker 2>and he doesn't sound happy to me. But that's his problem,

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<v Speaker 2>not mine, Henry. Thanks for listening back on Nightside right

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<v Speaker 2>after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray Mine from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's keep rolling here. Okay, everybody's gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>in I hope if everybody is kind to everyone else,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go to Bob and Summerville Pop next on nights.

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<v Speaker 4>I go right ahead, how you doing, dude? I hope

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<v Speaker 4>I don't make it the seventy eighth and I'm not cranky.

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<v Speaker 4>So anyway, US Middlesex County people, we were not like that, right,

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<v Speaker 4>I hope not. I've been on a ballut a few

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<v Speaker 4>times in my lifetime. My family has, and I can

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<v Speaker 4>assure you, and you know, mister Galvin, Okay, when you

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<v Speaker 4>go to vote on the November fifth, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 4>to say early battle. When I go in and I

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<v Speaker 4>put that ballot in that machine and it sucks it in,

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<v Speaker 4>that vote translates right into the Secretary of State's office immediately.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you aware of that?

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<v Speaker 2>I was not aware of that. I assumed he was

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<v Speaker 2>counted and then they read the machines. But thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for that, it.

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<v Speaker 4>Reads it, okay, and soon basically the Secretary of State's

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<v Speaker 4>office knows about it before we even look at the

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<v Speaker 4>machines because I used to be a poll worker too.

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<v Speaker 4>So about this rigging the votes of the states, I

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<v Speaker 4>can't speak about. But I know when I on November fifth,

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<v Speaker 4>not the third of the fourth, but November fifth and

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<v Speaker 4>I go in and I put that machine. I know

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<v Speaker 4>mister Galvin got my vote. But anyway, what I was

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<v Speaker 4>gonna I'm talking about my vote doesn't go for warm

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<v Speaker 4>and so we'll skip that subject. The thing I wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to ask you, did H two A the what are

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<v Speaker 4>they visas or something?

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<v Speaker 2>But it was I think H two B I think

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<v Speaker 2>is the nomination.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's something to do with like migrants to

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<v Speaker 4>work there will work.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there work visas where they have them for

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<v Speaker 2>to stay here for a year.

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<v Speaker 4>Legal You know my question did right is a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of a lot of those people are at the harsh tracks.

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<v Speaker 4>Are they illegal immigrants? Are they legal immigrants that like say,

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<v Speaker 4>sleep at the stables and everything?

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<v Speaker 2>If they if they got an H two B of

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<v Speaker 2>what I believe that's the denomination. I'm not an expert

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<v Speaker 2>in ammigration law. I know a little bit about it

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<v Speaker 2>to be dangerous, but if you have a work visa

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<v Speaker 2>in this country, or you have a student visa, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking about people who are working at the horse tracks,

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<v Speaker 2>if they have a visa, they're legally they're here legally, okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, but they have to stay on that property. Is

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<v Speaker 4>that right?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. I don't know that there's any

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<v Speaker 2>restrictions to that. I think that they can live their

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<v Speaker 2>life and as long as they don't get into trouble,

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<v Speaker 2>when the visa expires, they have to return home.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay. So my question, my last question is how to

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<v Speaker 4>Republicans or the Democrats more responsible for those kinds of

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<v Speaker 4>things happening at horse Tracks. Well, you probably wouldn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea. I think it's I think on

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of that issue, there is a consensus and

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<v Speaker 2>they said we will make this visa available as a

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<v Speaker 2>work visa. There are student visas uh and and there

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<v Speaker 2>was a point in time when Democrats and Republicans work

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<v Speaker 2>together on it, and hopefully we get to to work

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<v Speaker 2>together and get people here illegally who we know, who

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<v Speaker 2>they are. Simple, Okay, Bob, you do let me go

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<v Speaker 2>to I Leen and walked them. I lean want to

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<v Speaker 2>get you in and at least one or two more

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead, quick.

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<v Speaker 10>First, if you have a student beach, you can only

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<v Speaker 10>work on campus. One of my best friends the start

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<v Speaker 10>of the Irish Immigration Center, So I have been.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, but that was not his question His question was

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<v Speaker 2>do they have to sleep there? What I'm saying is

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a student.

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<v Speaker 10>But they if you're a student, you have a student visa,

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<v Speaker 10>I can't hire you.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to work out. That wasn't the question he asked.

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<v Speaker 2>He was saying that if someone had a visa to

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<v Speaker 2>work at a horse track, did they have to sleep

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<v Speaker 2>in the horse track?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>They could, they could have.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, No, no, not at all.

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<v Speaker 10>It's in terms of the m cats war is the

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<v Speaker 10>teachers unions are against cats, and I think it's more

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<v Speaker 10>because it's.

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<v Speaker 6>And Warren Warren is for the students.

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<v Speaker 2>Warren Warren is going with the teachers union and that issue.

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<v Speaker 7>And as always the teacher, she did.

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<v Speaker 10>She was on the pickets lines in Newton supporting her

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<v Speaker 10>legal teacher strife.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, that's part of her that as part of her

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<v Speaker 2>she've views that as part of her constituency.

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<v Speaker 5>You're right, she's definitely deficult and sold.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, okay. In terms of immigration, in the situations, I

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<v Speaker 10>have a woman here who works with me. She's here

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<v Speaker 10>I legally, she's here from Guatemala. She is a terrific worker.

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<v Speaker 10>I couldn't live without her. I couldn't do business without her,

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<v Speaker 10>but her cousin has been trying to come up from

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<v Speaker 10>Guatemala for ten years and he finally came up illegally.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm going to see if I can support sponsor him.

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<v Speaker 5>But that's how.

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<v Speaker 10>Crazy the system is.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the problem is we only naturalize a million people

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<v Speaker 2>a year. We're a country of three hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 2>million people. We should increase legal immigration. Definitely, get people

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<v Speaker 2>like that who have waited a long time, get them

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<v Speaker 2>here in the process, find out who they are and

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<v Speaker 2>if they qualify, bring them in. Uh and get tougher

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<v Speaker 2>on the borders.

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<v Speaker 10>And maybe what some of these companies that want a

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<v Speaker 10>lot of workers could do is actually set up something

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<v Speaker 10>at the border and get everybody there.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, absolutely creative solutions for these problems.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what I'm saying there.

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<v Speaker 2>There's always a solution if people of goodwill, unless you

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<v Speaker 2>want if they politicize it, then then no good solution

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<v Speaker 2>is going to come of it. Okay, thank you, ch

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<v Speaker 2>Let me go to Jack and the Cape. Jack, you've

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<v Speaker 2>waited long. I appreciated you. The last call of the night.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Jack, there's a couple behind you. Take the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks Den, my friend, Thanks for being on AM radio.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank I enjoy your your show because you you have

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<v Speaker 6>you give a lot of people a lot of leeway.

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm going to throw out the idea politics is

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<v Speaker 6>modern day bread and circus, and we need to turn

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<v Speaker 6>away from that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 6>We need to we need to turn to ourselves for

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<v Speaker 6>the solutions. And it's not going to come from some government,

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<v Speaker 6>some United Nations agents. And we have to come to

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<v Speaker 6>an understandable, workable solutions of us people and those people.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm I'm like you, uh, and I'm like all the

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<v Speaker 6>other illegals.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we we need to.

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<v Speaker 6>Expand our sense of humanity. Humanity is under threat.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I think what we need to do. And Jack,

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<v Speaker 2>I hate to do this. Yeah, I got you in

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<v Speaker 2>and and and I'm I'm I'm cramped here on time.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I promise I will give you more time. You did

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<v Speaker 2>call in early enough. I went a little longer with

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of the other calls, which is my mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>Through are calls behind you who you will not get

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<v Speaker 2>on tonight. Call them all night, and let's let's amplify

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<v Speaker 2>this conversation fair enough.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Jack, appreciate it very much. We're done for the night.

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<v Speaker 2>Rob a great job tonight under difficult circumstances. Marite a

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<v Speaker 2>great job during the day back tomorrow night. Everyone, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>beyond Facebook in just a moment at nightside with Dan

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<v Speaker 2>Rayel dogs, all cats, oh pets go to heaven. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why Pal Charlie Rays who passed fourteen years ago in February.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all your pasts are who passed. They loved you

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<v Speaker 2>and you love them. I do believe you'll see them again.

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<v Speaker 2>See again tomorrownight and night said everyone, Thanks so much

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<v Speaker 2>for listening, Thanks for calling, including even Henry from Sutton
