Speaker 1: It's nice eye, Dan Ray. I'm Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: All right. We are talking about the debate tonight that occurred.
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Speaker 2: we had a little bit of difficulty connecting with it.
Speaker 2: We aired it. We were supposed to air its entirety
Speaker 2: from eight thirty to nine thirty. It took rob and
Speaker 2: through no fault of rob By the way, he did
Speaker 2: everything he could to get the audio feed on, we
Speaker 2: didn't get the audio feed until about eighty forty five,
Speaker 2: So you heard about three quarters of the debate. I
Speaker 2: missed the first fifteen minutes because I was talking about
Speaker 2: missing the first fifteen minutes. I'd love to know who
Speaker 2: you thought one of the debate and why. So we're
Speaker 2: just talking about that. All opinions are more than welcome
Speaker 2: here because there's no right or wrong in this one.
Speaker 2: It's what you felt. Let's keep rolling here. Going to
Speaker 2: go next to Steve in. Steve you a first this
Speaker 2: hour night side. Welcome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how you doing. I looked in to these guys
Speaker 3: talk about, you know, immigrate here and this and that
Speaker 3: and it's all about money. And if you want to
Speaker 3: stop immigration, I'm waiting to hear one of these politicians
Speaker 3: say that they're gonna stop fighting companies uh and uh,
Speaker 3: closing companies down that are hiring all these illegals. That's
Speaker 3: why they're coming. You got you got all these companies.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 2: I agree with you. Any I would agree with you.
Speaker 2: Any company that doesn't do due diligence and is found
Speaker 2: to be hiring someone who's here illegally is potentially taking
Speaker 2: a job from an American citizen who would like to have
Speaker 2: that exactly.
Speaker 3: That's and that's what I'm saying. If they start doing that,
Speaker 3: closing these companies down, finding them, I guarantee you you'll
Speaker 3: stop the illegal immigration. They're not gonna come because you know,
Speaker 3: no company is going to hire them. You know, they're
Speaker 3: telling all their families, come on up here. I can
Speaker 3: get you a job there. You know, if you go
Speaker 3: to a restaurant, you know, you get all the Americans
Speaker 3: out front working and stuff and everything, go back into
Speaker 3: the kitchen and stuff, and see who's back there doing
Speaker 3: all the cooking and stuff. You get all their legals
Speaker 3: back there. They're all back there in all these major companies.
Speaker 2: Everything I've said for years. Not to interrupt to Steve,
Speaker 2: but I've said for years that the reasons that our
Speaker 2: borders are so open is that Democrats have seen the
Speaker 2: rush of people coming across the border as potential voters.
Speaker 2: They're seeing in this election that a lot of black voters,
Speaker 2: who are traditionally Democratic voters are now taking a very
Speaker 2: serious look at Donald Trump and the Republican Party. We'll
Speaker 2: see what happens on November fifth if that curiosity turns
Speaker 2: into reality. But the Democrats are saying, look, let's get
Speaker 2: these in the country's let's get them legal, and they'll
Speaker 2: be more likely than not to be Democratic voter. And
Speaker 2: I think the Republicans are looking at them at country club.
Speaker 2: Republicans are saying, hey, who's going to do our lawns,
Speaker 2: who's going to landscape our yards? Who's going to pick
Speaker 2: the crops? And they look at them as cheap labor.
Speaker 2: That's where I think we are as a country.
Speaker 3: I mean, they hire them legal legal, hire them legally,
Speaker 3: and I mean get get get a which calls that
Speaker 3: coming to the country legally. But if they hate illegally,
Speaker 3: the companies that are hiring them, like I said, if
Speaker 3: these companies you start finding them, closing them down, taking
Speaker 3: licenses away for different stuff, they won't they won't be
Speaker 3: Uh you'll see, you'll see a big dropping illegals coming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's not it's not fair. If if you
Speaker 2: are in a country company fairly and you only hire Americans,
Speaker 2: and you pay above the board, you pay above the table,
Speaker 2: and I run a company that's a cop competitive to yours.
Speaker 2: Let's say we both have landscaping companies. We're in the
Speaker 2: same area. Your costs are going to be one hundred
Speaker 2: percent legal, Mike, They're going to be maybe fifty percent legal,
Speaker 2: fifty percent I legal. I'm going to be able to
Speaker 2: undercut your prices. It's as simple as that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what's going on. That's what's happening.
Speaker 2: You got it all right. I happen to agree with you, Steve.
Speaker 2: You're you're preaching the choir last one, that's for sure,
Speaker 2: Thank you much.
Speaker 3: I wanted all these politicians. I want to hear one
Speaker 3: of these politicians put a law roll deal like that.
Speaker 3: Any company hiring illegals, the laws exists.
Speaker 2: Already they need to be Well, here's the deal, Steve,
Speaker 2: those laws exist already. They simply need to be enforced.
Speaker 2: They're not being enforced.
Speaker 3: Well, that's what they need to be enforced.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, yeah, sure, Well that's where they have they
Speaker 2: have the laws in the books. It's like if all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, everybody's going on a fifty five mile
Speaker 2: an hour speed limit going eighty miles an hour. The
Speaker 2: laws and the books you got to stop people from speed,
Speaker 2: and you pull them over. If you don't pull them over,
Speaker 2: if you go eighty and I see that you're getting,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm probably go well, I'll do seventy five.
Speaker 2: I mean, simple as that. All right, Thank you, Steve.
Speaker 2: Good night night, good night you too. Six month seven
Speaker 2: two four ten thirty one line there, six months seven
Speaker 2: nine three one ten thirty. Let me go next to
Speaker 2: Pelvis in Middleton, Massachusetts. Pelvis, how are you tonight?
Speaker 5: Good Dan, how are you just great? I just want
Speaker 5: to I want to clear up something real quick. So
Speaker 5: I own a high scale landscape company on the north Shore.
Speaker 5: I've had a bunch of Guatemalgas working with me forever.
Speaker 5: I had two brothers that took them ten years to
Speaker 5: get vetted here under the previous you know, the previous
Speaker 5: rules were they used to go to Boston every year
Speaker 5: and have to prove that they were living here illegally
Speaker 5: for ten years before they were vetted as citizens here,
Speaker 5: before they could even apply to be citizens. Under this
Speaker 5: administration twenty twenty two, when he's they're bringing their cousins
Speaker 5: over here, they're being brought over here with a t
Speaker 5: I number. They no longer want cash. At this point,
Speaker 5: I was paying these guys twenty five to thirty dollars
Speaker 5: an hour to cut grass in a very high end,
Speaker 5: you know town in North Shore, Okay, Okay. The under
Speaker 5: the assumption that they were going legitimately for the illegal citizenship.
Speaker 5: They had families here, They were trying to do it
Speaker 5: the right way. Out of this administration, these people that
Speaker 5: come over here are being assigned TI N numbers. They
Speaker 5: don't want cash anymore. They want to check because out
Speaker 5: of the Biden administration, if you pay a little bit
Speaker 5: of tax and you put in work, and you stay
Speaker 5: out of trouble, you are fast track citizenship. In one year,
Speaker 5: you could apply for citizenship. If you have that tax ID,
Speaker 5: you've paid your taxes, you're now a Democratic vote or whatever,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like, no, I agree with you.
Speaker 5: That's where it's kind of get my real quick. I
Speaker 5: just want to tell you something about like when people say,
Speaker 5: some of these people are coming over here legitimately to
Speaker 5: start nice lives and good families, and you know, church going.
Speaker 5: The church is a big part of this. I knew
Speaker 5: the amount of church that are bringing these people over here.
Speaker 5: But on top of that, I had a guy with
Speaker 5: me for seven years on the North Shore. Between me
Speaker 5: and my cousin, we both own you know, like I said,
Speaker 5: the Heartscape Company whatever we used the same guy. He
Speaker 5: put in sixty hours a week. He busted himself to
Speaker 5: the wall for us.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: An Ice agent recognized his face back in February of
Speaker 5: last year up in the North Shore Mall. They took
Speaker 5: him in under child rape charges. He was deported back
Speaker 5: in two thousand and nine. He came back over here
Speaker 5: under a different name, worked his way back in and
Speaker 5: set up shop with us. We had no idea his background,
Speaker 5: none of that. Thank god. He wasn't wearing my company
Speaker 5: garb or none of that. But like the whole thing
Speaker 5: is like you don't know what these people are capable of.
Speaker 5: This whole thing was like the gangs that are happening
Speaker 5: in New York. Ecuadorian gangs, the Venezuelan gangs. It's a
Speaker 5: real threat. And I really think they set and this
Speaker 5: is the presidential thing. They set Trump up to fail
Speaker 5: because they bait him on the cook and the dogs
Speaker 5: and all the other nonsense, when really you just stick
Speaker 5: to the topics and get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 2: Like you know, I think if I could just jump
Speaker 2: in for a second, no one dated Trump on that
Speaker 2: story out of Springfield, Ohio, which was not No one
Speaker 2: has ever proven it, okay, number one, and there have
Speaker 2: been plenty of opportunities. I'm sure Fox sent cruise out
Speaker 2: there to find people. He started here. He pulled it
Speaker 2: like like a rabbit out of the hat in the
Speaker 2: middle of this debate, and they're eating dogs and cats
Speaker 2: in Springfield, Ohio. I'm sure somebody center I read a story.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that someone said to him.
Speaker 5: But Dan, this is where he's hurting himself, right. I mean,
Speaker 5: now you've got people going in, they can go and vote.
Speaker 5: They don't have to prove like who they are. These
Speaker 5: guys use different names, aliases, whatever. If you don't have
Speaker 5: to prove who you are when you're going to the polls.
Speaker 5: Then when you've got a guy comeing out saying that
Speaker 5: he's going to promise mass deportation, of course those are
Speaker 5: votes for her. And I hate to say it, but
Speaker 5: you know, whatever he's planning on doing to fix the country,
Speaker 5: keep it tight, lift, keep it to yourself. I mean,
Speaker 5: the fact that he's the Chicago thing was a debacle.
Speaker 5: When he's saying he's taking them, you know, they're taking
Speaker 5: the black jobs. Sometimes he just needs to real in.
Speaker 5: I mean, it sucks. These are the only two choices
Speaker 5: we have, but I would rather vote for Vance, to
Speaker 5: be honest with you, I think he's out of the
Speaker 5: there's no other choices. We have no choice here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know the immigrants on the floor of them.
Speaker 2: But Vance is the most impressive in my opinion.
Speaker 5: Because he was respectful to Wallace. He was actually that
Speaker 5: debate was actually watchable. The other ones were. And we'll
Speaker 5: see how Harris does tomorrow on Fox News Free Karen Read.
Speaker 2: That's all I got. She would probably do pretty well.
Speaker 2: By the way. Brett Baar is a gentleman. And I
Speaker 2: assume that.
Speaker 1: Obama.
Speaker 2: I assume that she will have her answers down and
Speaker 2: I think she might come out of that. I don't
Speaker 2: think that it's going to be the so called got
Speaker 2: your moment there because I think I think berber will
Speaker 2: treat her professionally, and she's probably this is a smart
Speaker 2: thing for her to do, in my opinion.
Speaker 5: Hey, got her smart earrings, Watch her smart earrings. We'll
Speaker 5: see if Obama's in her ear tomorrow night.
Speaker 6: I'm checking out.
Speaker 2: I think. Let me tell you something, and somebody, you
Speaker 2: got to watch the language here, gotta watch the lange.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I got to you. I'm sorry, I'm forty
Speaker 5: four years old. But like I'm arguing back and forth
Speaker 5: with these people, I'm like, nobody can tell me a
Speaker 5: reason or a policy that they're voting for her for
Speaker 5: other than the fact they're voting for her because of
Speaker 5: their disdain for him. And that's not the way to
Speaker 5: go about this. That's insane. Nobody has any legitimate reason
Speaker 5: why they want four more years of what we've been
Speaker 5: dealing with. Right now, I'm.
Speaker 2: Telling you, I'm telling you that if you're if you're
Speaker 2: an educated suburban woman and you've heard all the things
Speaker 2: that he said, and I know, superb case, we're women
Speaker 2: who are gonna say under no circumstances, they're going to
Speaker 2: vote for Donald Trump. So there are people, there are
Speaker 2: people in this country unfortunately, who are gonna say, Look,
Speaker 2: people vote either for or against candidates. It's as simple
Speaker 2: as that. It's as simple as that. And people do
Speaker 2: not do not go into the polls and have to say, oh,
Speaker 2: I am voting for candidate A, or if they go
Speaker 2: in and say I'm voting against candidate B. Oh no,
Speaker 2: you can't be a negative vote. You vote us account
Speaker 2: you get. You win the vote, either because who you
Speaker 2: are or who the voter is.
Speaker 5: But I mean I wish, I wish Harris was never nominated.
Speaker 5: I mean, we could have the other guys almost dead.
Speaker 5: I mean, he should not be our choices. This is
Speaker 5: my point, I get it, but this should be Republican Party.
Speaker 2: Picked Donald Trump. The Republican Party had a chance to
Speaker 2: pick Nicky Haley. They had where's you know? Donald Trump
Speaker 2: was smart and I'm not sure he's smart. Okay, he
Speaker 2: he may be intelligent, but I'm not sure he's smart. Uh,
Speaker 2: he should get Nicky Haley, go to him, go with
Speaker 2: him to Pennsylvania. His ego won't allow him to bring
Speaker 2: Nicki Haley out on.
Speaker 5: The cap Nick Haley would to help him big time. Dan, absolutely,
Speaker 5: with the woman she would and all the stuff.
Speaker 2: I know, I know won't allow anyone else. He would
Speaker 2: rather lose alone than win with the assistance of DeSantis
Speaker 2: or Haley.
Speaker 5: But in my opinion, when you've got maniacal world leaders
Speaker 5: at the very best, you have somebody who semi controls
Speaker 5: the rum a little bit.
Speaker 4: I can't.
Speaker 5: They must be licking at chomps of the fact that
Speaker 5: she might be in there, you know, j and putin
Speaker 5: I've shaking hands Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: That is Donald Trump's fault. That's not their fault.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump's faults back to his ego.
Speaker 4: You're right, Dan, You're.
Speaker 2: Right Hey, to put it like that. We'll have to
Speaker 2: see what happens if all of a sudden, NICKI Haley's
Speaker 2: out there with him, that's a different story. Maybe. All right,
Speaker 2: gotta run, Thanks Pelvis, Okay, all right, all right, thanks much.
Speaker 2: Why were you a break, Robert? Now I'm I do
Speaker 2: short break. Here we go, coming right back. I got
Speaker 2: Sarge South Carolina, Matt and Brighton, and I got some
Speaker 2: room for you folks. Let's keep it going. These have
Speaker 2: been some break calls tonight. I'm sure you have a
Speaker 2: great call in you six one, seven, two, five, four
Speaker 2: ten thirty six one seven, nine, ten thirty back after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World. Nice, thanks, studios,
Speaker 1: I'm w busy news radio.
Speaker 2: All right, back we go where we're gonna go to? Yes,
Speaker 2: Serge in South Carolina, Serge, welcome. I don't know if
Speaker 2: I've had you on the show before. How are you tonight?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 7: Pretty good? Fair in the middling, Dan Ray, A citation everybody.
Speaker 7: I hope you had a happy Indigenous People's Day.
Speaker 2: I probably love to stay in a happy Indigenous People's
Speaker 2: Day and a happy happy Monday as well.
Speaker 8: Exactly, I have a different celebration.
Speaker 2: I had a difference celebration yesterday. Okay, my mom. It
Speaker 2: would have been my mom's one hundred and fourteenth birthday.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 2: I spent some time thinking about her. She was born
Speaker 2: on October fourteenth, the same day that Dwight David. Not
Speaker 2: the same day, but well the same year, the same
Speaker 2: day as Dwight David. Iisenhower, President Eisenhower.
Speaker 7: What was the year my mom?
Speaker 2: Do the math? She was born in nineteen ten.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 7: Wow, that is fantastic.
Speaker 2: And as everyone thinks. I hope their mother was the
Speaker 2: greatest mother in the world. And that's how I felt
Speaker 2: my mom. Yeah, I'm sure that's the way you feel
Speaker 2: about yours.
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, Before I get into my topic, let me
Speaker 7: chair a little note. This kind of intervened with yours
Speaker 7: and all that. I'm blueped all over the world man,
Speaker 7: and all that, both coasts New Hampshire and State Seattle,
Speaker 7: been up and down the West Coast and all that.
Speaker 7: You know, grew up in Turkey, Britain, married in Germany,
Speaker 7: spit in my honeymoon in Paris and all that.
Speaker 2: So we got background, is what you're telling her, Yes.
Speaker 7: Sir, Air Force Police special operations.
Speaker 4: But in.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that same to you, sir. A number of years
Speaker 7: ago you heard of the Buffalo Soldiers, correct, yes, sir, right,
Speaker 7: the Calvary and all that. The oldest living Buffalo Soldier
Speaker 7: was living in Richmond, Virginia, where I grew up at
Speaker 7: late sixties, early seventies. Name was Jones Morgan. So if
Speaker 7: anybody knows him and all that, you know, hey, you know,
Speaker 7: I am very respectful of veterans World War two, wor
Speaker 7: War one and all that. And I just recently saw
Speaker 7: you know, I don't know, I'm kind of moving around
Speaker 7: a little bit. But High Chaparral had a great episode
Speaker 7: called The Buffalo Soldiers and Cameron Mitchell, the actor, you're
Speaker 7: familiar with him, he did a narration toward the end
Speaker 7: explaining about them, and it was great. If you ever,
Speaker 7: if you like High Chapparral, watch the Buffalo Soldiers episode.
Speaker 7: It will almost bring you to just astonishment and everything
Speaker 7: and all. But the last living Buffalo Soldier was from Richmond,
Speaker 7: where I grew up at, where Arthur Ash, the legendary
Speaker 7: tennis player.
Speaker 2: You know, an opportunity to interview Arthur Ash Benny years ago. Wonderful, wonderful.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you're lucky, Doug. Okay, now let me get into
Speaker 7: the topic. I've heard this story on and on again.
Speaker 7: It's really driving me nuts and all that baddie you know, debbie,
Speaker 7: as they would say in Britain, black men are leaving Kambla,
Speaker 7: Harrison Droves and all.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: But but Donald Trump is doing better with with the
Speaker 2: black vote than any prior Republican in recent memory. Uh,
Speaker 2: and seems to be taking votes away from what you
Speaker 2: might think would be normal Democratic voters.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and you know what, I just got through calling
Speaker 7: the Associated Press, Dan Ray. That's a tip for him,
Speaker 7: that new flat No, I am a black man, remembering
Speaker 7: I'm a black you know, with Cherokee on both sides,
Speaker 7: you know, the Pine Hill nation of the Cherokee tribe
Speaker 7: in north South Carolina. My chieftain's name is Michelle Mitchell.
Speaker 7: The chieftain gave me my my native name, Thunderbird and
Speaker 7: all that. So Thunderbird says it is not true. You know,
Speaker 7: when you say something loud enough, long enough, and often enough,
Speaker 7: people are starting to believe that all black men are
Speaker 7: drifting away from her.
Speaker 4: I wish I had.
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody. I don't think in all, in
Speaker 2: all honesty, sergeant, I don't think anyone is saying that.
Speaker 2: I think they're saying that there there seems to be
Speaker 2: he did it. He did it an event in the Bronx,
Speaker 2: which drew a pretty good sized crowd. But you know
Speaker 2: what's going on. It is, let's see what happens on
Speaker 2: election day, and they'll do the the exit polls and well,
Speaker 2: well it's almost like talking about a super Bowl. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm convinced that the Patriots are going to win. And
Speaker 2: you're convinced that the Miami Dolphinsamy Dolphins, that the Giants
Speaker 2: are going to win, and one of us would be right,
Speaker 2: one of us would be wrong.
Speaker 7: You know, yes, vote vote, and they don't hold it
Speaker 7: against me. When you have the first lady president of
Speaker 7: the United States, Kamala Harris, thank.
Speaker 2: You for taking against anybody. I hope I hope that
Speaker 2: the election. I hope it's decisive. I hope it is
Speaker 2: not a close margin. And I hope that whoever wins,
Speaker 2: everyone turns around, at least for a while and says, Okay, look,
Speaker 2: let's put the political division behind us. None of us
Speaker 2: were not red, We're not blue. Uh you know, we're
Speaker 2: We're red, white and blue. And let's give whoever gets
Speaker 2: elected a chance to be president of the United States.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that's gonna happen, but I'd like to
Speaker 2: think it would. We lost them there, Yeah we did, Sarge.
Speaker 2: We didn't cut you off. We lost you apologize. See
Speaker 2: that was a good call, Sarge, called back any time.
Speaker 2: And you know the vagaries of cell phones. It's as
Speaker 2: simple as that. Okay. I have one line at six, one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 2: four to ten thirty, and I have one line at
Speaker 2: six months, seven nine three, one, ten thirty, and I
Speaker 2: will give you the what I'm now going to call
Speaker 2: the eleven thirty warning, and that is if you want
Speaker 2: to call, call now, because those of you who are
Speaker 2: going to wait till call in. I've had some callers
Speaker 2: who I think really tried to do it a lot,
Speaker 2: call at ten or twelve and be the last caller in.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to play that game anymore. I'd love
Speaker 2: to I'd love to give everybody an opportunity. I've decided
Speaker 2: that I do not want to rush people at the end.
Speaker 2: I'm going to try to avoid that impulse. I've tried
Speaker 2: to do that in the past, but I think I
Speaker 2: do think that some people have taken advantage of my kindness.
Speaker 2: So call in six months seven two, five four ten thirty,
Speaker 2: six months seven nine three one ten thirty. I look
Speaker 2: at the lines, I see who I see people who
Speaker 2: call in and they drop off, and look, we have
Speaker 2: we have five lines here. When the lines are full,
Speaker 2: if you're the fifth caller, for the most part, we're
Speaker 2: going to take the calls in the order in which
Speaker 2: they came. I think it's fair. That's that's why Matt
Speaker 2: is next followed by Henry and Bob and two lines open,
Speaker 2: fill them up. We've had some great calls tonight, including
Speaker 2: Sergeant's call. We've had some great calls tonight, and you
Speaker 2: can you have a great call. Make it right now
Speaker 2: six months seven two five four ten thirty or six
Speaker 2: month seven nine three one ten thirty because when I
Speaker 2: get to you, I want to give you some time
Speaker 2: to express yourself. Back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBS, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's keep rolling here. We have full lines and
Speaker 2: I will get everybody in and everyone have a good
Speaker 2: opportunity to say their piece, which is what Nightside's all about. Matt,
Speaker 2: go right ahead, Matt and brighten your next on Nightside.
Speaker 8: We doing Dan, I'm doing great.
Speaker 2: But did you watch the debate tonight with Senator Lauren
Speaker 2: and John Deaton?
Speaker 9: Unfortunately I did not, but I can tell you without
Speaker 9: watching it, uh, Elizabeth Warren will not be my pick, uh, regardless.
Speaker 1: Of what was said.
Speaker 9: But I no, no, no, nevertheless, I do wish your
Speaker 9: mother a you know, a good birthday in heaven. And
Speaker 9: you know absolutely yesterday serves a purpose for a day
Speaker 9: that is on the calendar in any ways, one thing
Speaker 9: I did want to ask just as I was waiting,
Speaker 9: I felt like it was a little more productive maybe
Speaker 9: to ask. The first color in when I got on
Speaker 9: had mentioned that potentially Nikki Hayley or something of that
Speaker 9: sort may have been a more viable candidate, or may
Speaker 9: even more viable. And you would say, you know which,
Speaker 9: I agree with Donald Trump and never have allowed someone
Speaker 9: to be anybody. But you know what it is, he
Speaker 9: never would allow Nicky Hill. So do you think I'm
Speaker 9: not trying to put it on you, per se, but
Speaker 9: do you think Nicki Haley would out of mean to
Speaker 9: be to say Nicky Hilly would have been a better
Speaker 9: choice for president?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 7: No, no, no.
Speaker 2: The point, well, the point that I was making that
Speaker 2: I've made throughout the year, and I think you listen regularly.
Speaker 2: I always thought Donald Trump could win the Republican nomination
Speaker 2: because his base is so fiercely loyal. But I doubt,
Speaker 2: and I still doubt, frankly, whether or not he will
Speaker 2: win the final election because I keep looking at these
Speaker 2: poll numbers and I very rarely see him getting even
Speaker 2: close to fifty. Now I know that he doesn't have
Speaker 2: to win more votes to win the election, because in
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, Hillary Clinton won more votes, just as as
Speaker 2: al Gore did in two thousand. So most people don't
Speaker 2: understand the electoral college. So I think that he has
Speaker 2: an inherent advantage as long as he can keep it close.
Speaker 2: But what I was saying was, if Donald Trump really
Speaker 2: wanted to win this election right now, he would spend
Speaker 2: the next three weeks campaigning with Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis,
Speaker 2: because Ron DeSantis has just shown the nation as the
Speaker 2: governor of Florida what a competent governor dons does in
Speaker 2: the face of two crises, Hurricane Helen and Hurricane I'm
Speaker 2: trying to think of the second Milton, Hurricane Milton and
Speaker 2: Governor Haley, former Ambassador Haley, I think could go a
Speaker 2: long way to helping women voters who may be inclined
Speaker 2: to support Vice President Harris to go back to the
Speaker 2: Republican Party. But I don't think Donald Trump will be
Speaker 2: smart enough, or I guess I don't know. It isn't
Speaker 2: a question being smart or intelligent.
Speaker 9: But go down, go down enough that he would not.
Speaker 2: Understand that he would rather lose alone than win with
Speaker 2: the help of Haley and Desantas and and that to
Speaker 2: me is an ego, uh block that is that's that's
Speaker 2: just to me is unaccepted. It's like being a ball team.
Speaker 2: You know, if if if you can pick up a
Speaker 2: better player for the Pennant Drive, and you don't want
Speaker 2: to have somebody say, no, we don't want that guy
Speaker 2: because you know we're gonna we were twenty five guys
Speaker 2: or you know, look, sometimes you have to add somebody
Speaker 2: to to to accomplished, to get it over the humps
Speaker 2: that we're going win the World Series. And same way
Speaker 2: with this this election. I don't don't you think that
Speaker 2: Nikki Haley would bring more voters. I mean, Donald Trump
Speaker 2: has his base of forty six or forty seven. That's
Speaker 2: not going anywhere, okay, but he's not gonna win with
Speaker 2: forty six or forty seven percent.
Speaker 9: No, I mean, And that's where I was gonna say.
Speaker 9: Much of my worry is, I think I've been you know,
Speaker 9: I you know you and I have you know, I've
Speaker 9: made my comments and stuff on your Live or whatever.
Speaker 9: And that's where much of my worry actually actually has
Speaker 9: come in, is that if it goes down to the
Speaker 9: electoral college with these major states, will he be able
Speaker 9: to take Atlanta. Yeah, he'll probably be able to take Florida.
Speaker 8: I don't see if he couldn't, but oh he would
Speaker 8: never enough if look, if Trump doesn't carry Florida, Uh,
Speaker 8: then if it's a blowout win for Harris.
Speaker 2: If Harris doesn't carry oh, let's say Virginia, I'm talking
Speaker 2: about states that you know theoretically, or Minnesota. Let's assume
Speaker 2: that that Harris doesn't carry Minnesota, it's a blowout win
Speaker 2: for Donald Trump. Because if that if, if if Trump
Speaker 2: were to win Minnesota, that means he wins Wisconsin, he
Speaker 2: wins Michigan, and he probably wins Pennsylvania. If Harris were
Speaker 2: to win Florida, that means she wins Florida, she wins Georgia,
Speaker 2: she wins North Carolina, because you know, Florida has to
Speaker 2: be from Trump's perspective, a given. So you look at
Speaker 2: these these these these you know, variations here, and and
Speaker 2: you begin to see and you say, Okay, Massachusetts, that's
Speaker 2: going to Vice President Harris no matter what.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 2: And Wyoming's going to Donald Trump no matter what. You
Speaker 2: could take you take the states off the board, and
Speaker 2: you see what it comes down to. It comes down
Speaker 2: to seven or eight states. And I think at this point,
Speaker 2: although I think the Harris campaign is losing some steam,
Speaker 2: I keep looking at all the different poll numbers. I
Speaker 2: look at him every day, and I'm not routing either way.
Speaker 2: I'm to be honest with you, I want whoever wins
Speaker 2: to be accepted as president of the United States by everyone.
Speaker 9: No, and I agree, I mean, well, ultimately I find that,
Speaker 9: you know, look, as long as everything's done you know,
Speaker 9: you know, kosher so to speak. Bay, as long as
Speaker 9: everything's done correctly, the winner is the you know, winner
Speaker 9: by how we have our voting systems set up in
Speaker 9: this country, as long as it's done correctly, and I
Speaker 9: will go by that winner. And that to me is
Speaker 9: ultimately whether I'm.
Speaker 2: Happy or not.
Speaker 5: For me, that's who I'll have to say.
Speaker 9: This is the winner, and this is I'm going to
Speaker 9: go with for the next four years.
Speaker 2: Well four years, but you got to give the person
Speaker 2: a chance to governor give them a chance to whatever.
Speaker 2: And if after six months it's a disaster, then then
Speaker 2: ramp it up. Hey, Matt, I gotta keep rolling here.
Speaker 2: You got seven minutes more than anyone else gets. All right,
Speaker 2: let me keep rolling. You're going to go to Henry
Speaker 2: in Sutton, Massachusetts, Henry next on Nightside.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I am seventy eight years, seventy eight years old,
Speaker 5: all the five nineteen forty six. I just turned seventy
Speaker 5: eight years old, and I wanted to tell that last
Speaker 5: caller he doesn't want any hanky panky. Well, they just
Speaker 5: announced earlier today that in the state of Virginia that
Speaker 5: they're already lawsuits are already in place. They're already they've
Speaker 5: already filed lawsuits with the state of Virginia because they
Speaker 5: won't let them look at the machines, the old voting machines.
Speaker 5: In the state of Pennsylvania, they already announced a week
Speaker 5: ago that it's going to take a couple of days,
Speaker 5: which is a lie. But they said it's going to
Speaker 5: take a couple of days to count all the votes.
Speaker 5: I'm seventy eight years old and my whole life had
Speaker 5: never took two days to count the votes. So we
Speaker 5: know they're lying there. So the fix is already on.
Speaker 5: They're going to do everything they can the Democrats. That's
Speaker 5: the cheat. I am not supporting Elizabeth Warren. Going back,
Speaker 5: going back to the debate though, why I called is.
Speaker 5: I watched it. I am not supporting Elizabeth Warren at all.
Speaker 5: I never will forget about her. I did this is
Speaker 5: anyway not supporting her. But but the fix is already
Speaker 5: on people and they didn't make it.
Speaker 2: Now, hold on, Henry, I'm not as old as you,
Speaker 2: but I've been around a while, and let me just
Speaker 2: say this. Okay. First of all, there have been close
Speaker 2: elections in this country. You know, George Bush won by
Speaker 2: five hundred and twenty seven votes in Florida. Okay, and
Speaker 2: a lot that's right.
Speaker 7: I know?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: And are they people who vote illegally? Yes, unsadly, sadly.
Speaker 5: What I've got to do with it?
Speaker 6: What are you?
Speaker 5: Where is your point going? I'm telling you that.
Speaker 2: Well, what I'm telling you is, I'm disagreeing with you.
Speaker 2: I don't think the fix is in, and I do
Speaker 2: not believe the fix was in in twenty twenty. I
Speaker 2: think that well.
Speaker 5: You also you also lie to the people of my
Speaker 5: hometown because I've been listening to WBZ for seventy who
Speaker 5: he is since my mother, since I've been six years old.
Speaker 5: I attended one Boston Braves game when I was a
Speaker 5: little boy on Commers Street, my father. My father took
Speaker 5: me one time on Thomas, but that was a long
Speaker 5: time ago. I've been listening to w Abzu Licks what
Speaker 5: was his name?
Speaker 2: So what what's your head?
Speaker 5: Mary?
Speaker 2: Argumentative with you? All I'm saying is that for anyone
Speaker 2: at this point to save the fixes in, you're you're
Speaker 2: a gentleman who's going to influence the point of view
Speaker 2: of other people. You might believe that, but it's like
Speaker 2: it's like someone who says to me, well, the fix
Speaker 2: is in and the Patriots game next week. I don't
Speaker 2: believe that.
Speaker 5: I mean talking about it. We're talking about apples and orange,
Speaker 5: just about an election, and we're.
Speaker 2: I'm talking, we're talking about I'm not talking.
Speaker 5: About well, not talking about what's your profit?
Speaker 2: James Amy, with all due respect, what is your proof
Speaker 2: of that? There's not our.
Speaker 5: It's in the It's in the Newsweek magazine. I just
Speaker 5: read it. It said that the Virginia common away, but
Speaker 5: Virginia there is a lawsuit in because they're not being
Speaker 5: transparent with the voting machines. They believe they're going to
Speaker 5: be hooked up to the internet. Go to Newsweek magazine.
Speaker 5: It was just announced five hours ago, a week ago
Speaker 5: in the Philadelphia Enquirer. The Philadelphia Enquirer is no different
Speaker 5: than the Boston Glo over the New York Times. The
Speaker 5: Philadelphia Enquirer made a statement, it's going to take a
Speaker 5: couple of days to count the votes. Why are you
Speaker 5: going to.
Speaker 2: They're going to try to get it right. And I'll
Speaker 2: tell you what if the votes don't come in in
Speaker 2: Philadelphia at a certain level for Vice President Harris, you
Speaker 2: then can look at you can look at precincts. You
Speaker 2: can look and say, look, she needs to carry this
Speaker 2: area of Philadelphia by you know, seven to one or
Speaker 2: eight to one, and she's not doing it. Look, Henry,
Speaker 2: have a little more faith in this, okay, Because well.
Speaker 5: I would have faith in the system of people would
Speaker 5: have covered the fraud that happened four years ago. Remember
Speaker 5: a Biden didn't win. Any Biden didn't by Hillary.
Speaker 2: I don't have a heart attack on my show. Come on,
Speaker 2: come on, Please feel free to call any other night.
Speaker 2: We'll continue the conversation. But I think you and I
Speaker 2: are diametrically opposed in this. I'm a guy who looks
Speaker 2: at the glass it's half full. I think you look
Speaker 2: at it as it's half empty. We might both be
Speaker 2: right half full, half empty, but please, Henry, please have
Speaker 2: a little more faith in the system. You and I
Speaker 2: are of that both of us are on the wrong
Speaker 2: side of fifty. Let's try to get it right this time,
Speaker 2: and let's try to pass this country on to the
Speaker 2: next generation in as good as shape as we inherited it.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm on half full side as well. I am
Speaker 5: being realistically, Henry, I got to run, I got three
Speaker 5: more behind you, and I got a news a commercial break.
Speaker 2: Have you called before? I don't recall us chatting before?
Speaker 2: Is this your first time? I hope Henry has learned
Speaker 2: to swim. You know, you treat someone as a gentleman,
Speaker 2: and that's what you get in response. That's sad. I
Speaker 2: feel badly for Henry. Actually, I visualize him as sitting there,
Speaker 2: convinced of his own opinion beyond any question of a doubt,
Speaker 2: and he doesn't sound happy to me. But that's his problem,
Speaker 2: not mine, Henry. Thanks for listening back on Nightside right
Speaker 2: after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray Mine from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, let's keep rolling here. Okay, everybody's gonna get
Speaker 2: in I hope if everybody is kind to everyone else,
Speaker 2: let's go to Bob and Summerville Pop next on nights.
Speaker 4: I go right ahead, how you doing, dude? I hope
Speaker 4: I don't make it the seventy eighth and I'm not cranky.
Speaker 4: So anyway, US Middlesex County people, we were not like that, right,
Speaker 4: I hope not. I've been on a ballut a few
Speaker 4: times in my lifetime. My family has, and I can
Speaker 4: assure you, and you know, mister Galvin, Okay, when you
Speaker 4: go to vote on the November fifth, I'm not going
Speaker 4: to say early battle. When I go in and I
Speaker 4: put that ballot in that machine and it sucks it in,
Speaker 4: that vote translates right into the Secretary of State's office immediately.
Speaker 4: Are you aware of that?
Speaker 2: I was not aware of that. I assumed he was
Speaker 2: counted and then they read the machines. But thank you
Speaker 2: for that, it.
Speaker 4: Reads it, okay, and soon basically the Secretary of State's
Speaker 4: office knows about it before we even look at the
Speaker 4: machines because I used to be a poll worker too.
Speaker 4: So about this rigging the votes of the states, I
Speaker 4: can't speak about. But I know when I on November fifth,
Speaker 4: not the third of the fourth, but November fifth and
Speaker 4: I go in and I put that machine. I know
Speaker 4: mister Galvin got my vote. But anyway, what I was
Speaker 4: gonna I'm talking about my vote doesn't go for warm
Speaker 4: and so we'll skip that subject. The thing I wanted
Speaker 4: to ask you, did H two A the what are
Speaker 4: they visas or something?
Speaker 2: But it was I think H two B I think
Speaker 2: is the nomination.
Speaker 4: I think it's something to do with like migrants to
Speaker 4: work there will work.
Speaker 2: I think there work visas where they have them for
Speaker 2: to stay here for a year.
Speaker 4: Legal You know my question did right is a lot
Speaker 4: of a lot of those people are at the harsh tracks.
Speaker 4: Are they illegal immigrants? Are they legal immigrants that like say,
Speaker 4: sleep at the stables and everything?
Speaker 2: If they if they got an H two B of
Speaker 2: what I believe that's the denomination. I'm not an expert
Speaker 2: in ammigration law. I know a little bit about it
Speaker 2: to be dangerous, but if you have a work visa
Speaker 2: in this country, or you have a student visa, and
Speaker 2: you're talking about people who are working at the horse tracks,
Speaker 2: if they have a visa, they're legally they're here legally, okay.
Speaker 4: Okay, but they have to stay on that property. Is
Speaker 4: that right?
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't know that there's any
Speaker 2: restrictions to that. I think that they can live their
Speaker 2: life and as long as they don't get into trouble,
Speaker 2: when the visa expires, they have to return home.
Speaker 4: Okay. So my question, my last question is how to
Speaker 4: Republicans or the Democrats more responsible for those kinds of
Speaker 4: things happening at horse Tracks. Well, you probably wouldn't know.
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I think it's I think on
Speaker 2: a lot of that issue, there is a consensus and
Speaker 2: they said we will make this visa available as a
Speaker 2: work visa. There are student visas uh and and there
Speaker 2: was a point in time when Democrats and Republicans work
Speaker 2: together on it, and hopefully we get to to work
Speaker 2: together and get people here illegally who we know, who
Speaker 2: they are. Simple, Okay, Bob, you do let me go
Speaker 2: to I Leen and walked them. I lean want to
Speaker 2: get you in and at least one or two more
Speaker 2: go ahead, quick.
Speaker 10: First, if you have a student beach, you can only
Speaker 10: work on campus. One of my best friends the start
Speaker 10: of the Irish Immigration Center, So I have been.
Speaker 2: Well, but that was not his question His question was
Speaker 2: do they have to sleep there? What I'm saying is
Speaker 2: if you're a student.
Speaker 10: But they if you're a student, you have a student visa,
Speaker 10: I can't hire you.
Speaker 2: You have to work out. That wasn't the question he asked.
Speaker 2: He was saying that if someone had a visa to
Speaker 2: work at a horse track, did they have to sleep
Speaker 2: in the horse track?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: They could, they could have.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, no, not at all.
Speaker 10: It's in terms of the m cats war is the
Speaker 10: teachers unions are against cats, and I think it's more
Speaker 10: because it's.
Speaker 6: And Warren Warren is for the students.
Speaker 2: Warren Warren is going with the teachers union and that issue.
Speaker 7: And as always the teacher, she did.
Speaker 10: She was on the pickets lines in Newton supporting her
Speaker 10: legal teacher strife.
Speaker 2: Right, that's part of her that as part of her
Speaker 2: she've views that as part of her constituency.
Speaker 5: You're right, she's definitely deficult and sold.
Speaker 10: Yeah, okay. In terms of immigration, in the situations, I
Speaker 10: have a woman here who works with me. She's here
Speaker 10: I legally, she's here from Guatemala. She is a terrific worker.
Speaker 10: I couldn't live without her. I couldn't do business without her,
Speaker 10: but her cousin has been trying to come up from
Speaker 10: Guatemala for ten years and he finally came up illegally.
Speaker 10: I'm going to see if I can support sponsor him.
Speaker 5: But that's how.
Speaker 10: Crazy the system is.
Speaker 2: Well, the problem is we only naturalize a million people
Speaker 2: a year. We're a country of three hundred and thirty
Speaker 2: million people. We should increase legal immigration. Definitely, get people
Speaker 2: like that who have waited a long time, get them
Speaker 2: here in the process, find out who they are and
Speaker 2: if they qualify, bring them in. Uh and get tougher
Speaker 2: on the borders.
Speaker 10: And maybe what some of these companies that want a
Speaker 10: lot of workers could do is actually set up something
Speaker 10: at the border and get everybody there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely creative solutions for these problems.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying there.
Speaker 2: There's always a solution if people of goodwill, unless you
Speaker 2: want if they politicize it, then then no good solution
Speaker 2: is going to come of it. Okay, thank you, ch
Speaker 2: Let me go to Jack and the Cape. Jack, you've
Speaker 2: waited long. I appreciated you. The last call of the night.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Jack, there's a couple behind you. Take the time.
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
Speaker 6: Thanks Den, my friend, Thanks for being on AM radio.
Speaker 6: Thank I enjoy your your show because you you have
Speaker 6: you give a lot of people a lot of leeway.
Speaker 6: So I'm going to throw out the idea politics is
Speaker 6: modern day bread and circus, and we need to turn
Speaker 6: away from that.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 6: We need to we need to turn to ourselves for
Speaker 6: the solutions. And it's not going to come from some government,
Speaker 6: some United Nations agents. And we have to come to
Speaker 6: an understandable, workable solutions of us people and those people.
Speaker 6: I'm I'm like you, uh, and I'm like all the
Speaker 6: other illegals.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 4: You know, we we need to.
Speaker 6: Expand our sense of humanity. Humanity is under threat.
Speaker 2: Well I think what we need to do. And Jack,
Speaker 2: I hate to do this. Yeah, I got you in
Speaker 2: and and and I'm I'm I'm cramped here on time.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: I promise I will give you more time. You did
Speaker 2: call in early enough. I went a little longer with
Speaker 2: a couple of the other calls, which is my mistake.
Speaker 2: Through are calls behind you who you will not get
Speaker 2: on tonight. Call them all night, and let's let's amplify
Speaker 2: this conversation fair enough.
Speaker 6: Thanks my friend.
Speaker 2: Thanks Jack, appreciate it very much. We're done for the night.
Speaker 2: Rob a great job tonight under difficult circumstances. Marite a
Speaker 2: great job during the day back tomorrow night. Everyone, I'm
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Speaker 2: Rayel dogs, all cats, oh pets go to heaven. That's
Speaker 2: why Pal Charlie Rays who passed fourteen years ago in February.
Speaker 2: That's all your pasts are who passed. They loved you
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Speaker 2: See again tomorrownight and night said everyone, Thanks so much
Speaker 2: for listening, Thanks for calling, including even Henry from Sutton