Speaker 1: The online world can be both a safe haven and
Speaker 1: a nasty place. Creators can make a living, people can
Speaker 1: find entertainment, and even a place where they belong. But
Speaker 1: there lurks a darker side of the Internet that can
Speaker 1: be much more than people imagine. In today's case, Bianca
Speaker 1: Devins was a budding creator online when things ended up
Speaker 1: taking a turn for the worse when a jealous friend
Speaker 1: was unsuccessful in making their relationship become much more than
Speaker 1: just friendship.
Speaker 2: My name's Ben and I'm Nicole, and you're listening to
Speaker 2: Wicked and Grim, a.
Speaker 1: True crime podcast.
Speaker 2: Warning.
Speaker 1: The following podcast and material intended for a mature audience.
Speaker 1: Listener discretion is advised.
Speaker 2: So we welcome some new additions to the fan this week.
Speaker 1: We did. We currently have four little baby sleeping chicks
Speaker 1: in our loft of our tiny home right now.
Speaker 2: Well, we're hoping that they're going to be sleeping for
Speaker 2: the entirety of.
Speaker 1: This podcast, no kidding. If they end up having to
Speaker 1: make noise whenever we're trying to record, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: to find a solution. But yeah, for now, they're quiet,
Speaker 1: they're sleeping, they're adorable.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Well this is the second night we're
Speaker 2: having them, and last night they slept all through the night, Yeah,
Speaker 2: which was unexpected.
Speaker 1: It was, but I mean they're babies, they will sleep
Speaker 1: generally speaking. So yeah, our chicken flock officially is now
Speaker 1: up to twelve with these four new chicks. So chicken math.
Speaker 1: Yeah if you know, you know, if you don't chickens,
Speaker 1: there's chicken math involved.
Speaker 2: They are seriously the cutest things. Though they are, it
Speaker 2: is so distracting. I am up there numerous times a day.
Speaker 1: I actually took one and put it on a finger
Speaker 1: skateboard today. Don't worry. It was completely safe. I just
Speaker 1: like kept it like standing there and put the chicken
Speaker 1: on top. It was. It was amazing. It wasn't rolling around.
Speaker 2: We'll progress with those skills, just kidding.
Speaker 1: Yeah, next step is a kickflip. But no, there. They're adorable.
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Speaker 2: Question before we start forty two? Are you going to
Speaker 2: crack that beer?
Speaker 1: Yes? But I was. I was keeping it suspenseful this time.
Speaker 1: Now you just ruined this.
Speaker 2: I'm just like, here we go. Oh, I was just
Speaker 2: I honestly thought you forgot, which you know what, Actually, yeah,
Speaker 2: that was stupid. You would never forget.
Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't. I was creating suspense this time. Oh,
Speaker 1: I was going to find a good moment here.
Speaker 2: You're like, when's it going to happen? When's it gonna happen?
Speaker 1: Exactly? There was going to be the perfect moment right
Speaker 1: before I start, that was going to open it. But
Speaker 1: you just gave it away.
Speaker 2: I ruined it.
Speaker 1: Wow, as the Red Hot Chili Peppers once said, give
Speaker 1: it away, give it away, give it away now. Sorry,
Speaker 1: that was terrible.
Speaker 2: No, it's okay. Let's get to the true crime, shall we.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's get to the true crime now.
Speaker 2: Okay. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I don't think I could say that as fast as
Speaker 1: give it away now though.
Speaker 2: But that was pretty good.
Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate it. Well, this one kind of mirrors
Speaker 1: the last episode that we did regarding a murder and online,
Speaker 1: because there was much of online involved with this one.
Speaker 1: Last time we debunked it saying, look, you know, the
Speaker 1: online portion didn't so much happen. This one, the online
Speaker 1: portion definitely happened, right on, No, not right on.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm very glad the last one didn't happen because
Speaker 2: that was something Yeah. Yeah, wow.
Speaker 1: Well, this one involves a young woman by the name
Speaker 1: of Bianca Michelle Devins. So Bianca was born on October two,
Speaker 1: two thousand and one. She was a seventeen year old
Speaker 1: teenager at the time from Utica, New York, in the
Speaker 1: United States of America. So Bianca had just recently graduated
Speaker 1: from high school, and like many people her age, she
Speaker 1: was just beginning to take on the world as an
Speaker 1: independent person all on her own, you know, coming of age,
Speaker 1: finding out who you are, what you want to do.
Speaker 1: You know, we've all been there.
Speaker 2: It's kind of an exciting time.
Speaker 1: Actually, it's also very scary.
Speaker 2: Scary and exciting as so very mixed emotions.
Speaker 1: Yes, especially when you're first taking on the world and
Speaker 1: it's like, I hate to say it, but the world
Speaker 1: kind of smacks you upside the head and you get
Speaker 1: a reality check on like it's not as easy as
Speaker 1: you think it's going to be. That's for sure, totally sucks,
Speaker 1: But I mean that kind of happens hopefully anyone out there.
Speaker 1: If you haven't hit that point yet, hopefully it is
Speaker 1: easy for you. But a lot of people do struggle
Speaker 1: because the world hits you hard.
Speaker 2: It happens to the best of us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But as such, she was set to attend Mohawk
Speaker 1: Valley Community College in the Fault begin her studies in
Speaker 1: the field of psychology. Now, it was a subject that
Speaker 1: was rather near and dear to Bianca's heart. You see,
Speaker 1: Bianca had struggled with mental illness in her life for
Speaker 1: quite some time. She had previously been diagnosed with depression, anxiety,
Speaker 1: borderline personality disorder, and even post traumatic stress disorder or PTSD.
Speaker 1: She quote had been in and out of the hospital
Speaker 1: receiving mental health treatment for much of her teen years.
Speaker 2: Oh that's too bad. That's hard.
Speaker 1: It is really hard. So I feel for her. But
Speaker 1: also at the same point, it's like, that's incredible that
Speaker 1: she's dealing with these sort of things and then strives
Speaker 1: to go into psychology. It's like she's tackling her demon's
Speaker 1: head on, which is so amazing.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and using it to motivate her exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so good on her for that. But regardless of
Speaker 1: her struggles, Bianca was also described as a kind and
Speaker 1: thoughtful person who often proactively helped other people throughout her life.
Speaker 1: She was always willing to offer good advice if you're
Speaker 1: trying to work through something, or even just be someone
Speaker 1: who would sit and listen if that's what you need it.
Speaker 1: She was kind, sweet, and a talented artist who had
Speaker 1: aspirations to become a model.
Speaker 2: Wow she sounds wonderful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no kidding, everything that I've read about her, she's
Speaker 1: just this like super kind, super sweet individual.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. We just need so many more people
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: We do on this Unfortunately the world is lacking in
Speaker 1: that department, yes, which kind of sucks, but like you say,
Speaker 1: we need much more of it now. Kimberly, Bianca's mom,
Speaker 1: gave birth to Bianca when she was a teenager, just herself,
Speaker 1: and in many ways, the two of them kind of
Speaker 1: like grew up together, if that makes any sense. So
Speaker 1: there was Bianca, Olivia, who is Bianca's younger sister, and
Speaker 1: Kimberly their mother. So all three of them were very
Speaker 1: close and they not only considered each other family but
Speaker 1: best friends too.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness that I love that.
Speaker 1: Right, So it's love that a tight knit little family
Speaker 1: that got going on now. Kimberly's mother even had this
Speaker 1: to say about her daughter Bianca. Quote, she was a
Speaker 1: beautiful person, stronger than I could ever be.
Speaker 2: Wow. Really, Yes, that's what.
Speaker 1: Kimberly said about her daughter Bianca.
Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, if you're gonna have your heart melt, that's
Speaker 1: probably a moment when it's going to happen.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: So for Beyonca, though the real world was not her
Speaker 1: favorite place, she found solace on the Internet, and online
Speaker 1: was a way to escape the real world, and social
Speaker 1: media became her refuge. On the Internet, it's an easy
Speaker 1: place where you can find like minded people who can
Speaker 1: relate to you. They are endless memes and videos to
Speaker 1: distract you from your strug in the real world.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's a place where you have control and have the
Speaker 1: ability to leave an unsafe place, for example, or explore
Speaker 1: deeper and learn something new. It's a place where she
Speaker 1: could escape, and soon she developed her online persona as
Speaker 1: an egirl. So an e girl. This is a term
Speaker 1: that's derived from electronic girl or electronic boy. It's a
Speaker 1: conjunction word that people have adapted due to their association
Speaker 1: with the Internet and their online presence. Okay, so it's
Speaker 1: like if I were an e boy, it's because like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm always on Instagram or I'm a gamer,
Speaker 1: and it's like you kind of adapt this personality and
Speaker 1: it kind of like goes with like your clothes, and
Speaker 1: you know, you adapt this style to go along with it.
Speaker 2: I've never heard of that before. No, no, really you
Speaker 2: had prior.
Speaker 1: To Oh definitely. It kind of started gaining popularity, I
Speaker 1: believe in about like twenty nineteen with TikTok and the
Speaker 1: rise of TikTok.
Speaker 2: Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, Instagram was one of Bianca's favorite platforms to
Speaker 1: frequent and over her time using her account on the platform,
Speaker 1: she accumulated more than seventy thousand followers on Instagram, which
Speaker 1: is no easy feats. Good on her for achieving that.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, what was her content are you going to say?
Speaker 1: I mean, like based around the egirl sort of stuff. Okay, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: so like she liked her modeling stuff and I tried
Speaker 1: to look up the account. I'm not sure if I
Speaker 1: found the real account or if it was a mock account,
Speaker 1: but the one I found only had about nine photos
Speaker 1: on it now, okay, so I'm assuming a lot of
Speaker 1: it has been taken down if that was the real account.
Speaker 1: But regardless of her online persona of an egirl was
Speaker 1: was flourishing in this app is where she would actually
Speaker 1: eventually meet twenty one year old Brandon Clark on April
Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen. So at the time, Bianca was seventeen
Speaker 1: and her friend Brandon was twenty one.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Through the platform, the two would begin talking and building
Speaker 1: a relationship together that Bianca made very clear to her
Speaker 1: mother that was a platonic one. She made it very
Speaker 1: clear to Brandon that they were just friends. She wasn't
Speaker 1: looking for anything else. It was just friends and nothing more.
Speaker 2: It's wild, actually, though, how you can have conversations with
Speaker 2: people and you're like friends, right, but you've never physically
Speaker 2: met them. Oh, definitely, really cool.
Speaker 1: I've got friends around the world that I've talked to
Speaker 1: online very frequently and I've never met them. And I've
Speaker 1: actually made friends online that I then met in real life,
Speaker 1: and it's like we're super good friends.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's almost like you have spent time
Speaker 2: in person. Oh exactly, it's quite Yeah, it's very interesting
Speaker 2: to describe.
Speaker 1: It seems like it's very much so easier to develop
Speaker 1: a relationship online than it is in the real world.
Speaker 1: And I think it comes down to two things. One,
Speaker 1: you are much more able to find someone to relate
Speaker 1: to online because you're in like minded communities for example.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: So you find someone that you kind of click with
Speaker 1: in a like minded community, then second, you have that
Speaker 1: protection of your computer screen or your phone screen or something, right,
Speaker 1: So it's much easier to open up because it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's not really real at that point,
Speaker 1: so you can just kind of let loose. And then
Speaker 1: by the time when you meet in the real world,
Speaker 1: you've already gone through this process of learning who each
Speaker 1: other are, and it's like you're just you click instantly, yeah,
Speaker 1: because you just know each other now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know the good, the bad, you know exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So as such, the two friends, you know, Brandon
Speaker 1: and Bianca, they hung out quite a bit and Brandon became,
Speaker 1: as described by Bianca's sister, a trusted family friend. Despite this,
Speaker 1: there was some speculation that there may have been a
Speaker 1: bit more to their relationship than anyone knew, so, with
Speaker 1: a friend of Bianca's believing Brandon supplied her with some
Speaker 1: drugs at times to entice her to spend time with him.
Speaker 1: Whether this is true or not, it's unclear, and anything
Speaker 1: that's been brought forward in this regard has been purely speculation.
Speaker 2: At this point, Okay, good to know, good, good that
Speaker 2: that's noted.
Speaker 1: Yes, However, with Brandon's personality that we will find a
Speaker 1: little bit later on, I wouldn't put it past them
Speaker 1: to at least attempt that.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, I'll just wait. I was gonna be like,
Speaker 2: what kind of drugs are we talking about here?
Speaker 1: Don't know?
Speaker 2: Okay, don't know.
Speaker 1: It could have just been weed or I have no clue. Yeah,
Speaker 1: as I said that, it is just purely speculation, and
Speaker 1: all I ever found was quote drugs, drugs. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: it could have been freaking cough syrup. It could have
Speaker 1: been like, hey, you need a you need an ibuprofen.
Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah exactly, I'll hook you up. Who
Speaker 1: knows how many milligrams you need? So But regardless of
Speaker 1: that speculation, the fact remains they were friends, nothing more,
Speaker 1: at least as far as Bianca new done, done done.
Speaker 2: Okay. I know this is just going to go south
Speaker 2: in a terrible way. I have a feeling. Well, I mean,
Speaker 2: we're talking about it.
Speaker 1: It's a true crime podcast.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm just like, I have little stories in my
Speaker 2: head where it doesn't end bad and it's kind of nice.
Speaker 1: You're trying to rewrite it as you go. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I feel you. Unfortunately, though, in this case, we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about what really happened. Okay, so it will
Speaker 1: be two months after the first or after the two
Speaker 1: had first met in the real world. On July thirteenth,
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, that both Bianca and Brandon were headed to
Speaker 1: a concert together. They were going to see a Canadian singer,
Speaker 1: Nicole Dollaganger in New York City, so they drove quite
Speaker 1: a waste to go see it, which is about four
Speaker 1: hours away. It was here at the concert that they
Speaker 1: met up with a mutual friend named Alex. During the show,
Speaker 1: Bianca and Alex allegedly were close and even started hitting
Speaker 1: it off and shared a kiss together. Ooh la la
Speaker 1: la la. It was something that did not exactly sit.
Speaker 2: Well with Brandon, okay, because he liked her.
Speaker 1: He did see although Bianca had made it very clear
Speaker 1: that she didn't want to be romantically involved with Brandon,
Speaker 1: he clearly hoped that she would change her mind, or
Speaker 1: maybe that he could get in there and you know,
Speaker 1: change the situation a little bit. And then when he
Speaker 1: witnessed Bianca kissing Alex, his jealousy would take over.
Speaker 2: That's tough. He was sort of just giving it time.
Speaker 2: He wasn't taking you know that she wanted to just
Speaker 2: be friends as the end.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was hoping, you know, it could develop into
Speaker 1: something else.
Speaker 2: And I mean sometimes it does sometimes.
Speaker 1: But regardless of if it does or does not develop,
Speaker 1: you need to respect if someone says no, if they're
Speaker 1: right now just being friends and he's hoping it develops
Speaker 1: into more, there's nothing wrong with that. But if she
Speaker 1: goes off and is now with Alex, he needs to
Speaker 1: be okay with that too.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it sounds like she's very honest.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, following the concert, Bianca and Brandon hopped into
Speaker 1: his car and began their four hour drive back to Utica.
Speaker 1: On this strip, the two began talking and arguing about
Speaker 1: the kiss that Bianca shared with Alex. Things were getting
Speaker 1: worse and worse and heated, and eventually it ended up
Speaker 1: with them kind of quieting down and not really talking
Speaker 1: a whole lot to one another.
Speaker 2: It's an awkward drive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure it would have been quite the awkward drive,
Speaker 1: and Bianca clearly probably just wanted to get home at
Speaker 1: this point, so as she waited for her arrival at
Speaker 1: her destination. She began drifting off to sleep. At this time,
Speaker 1: it was it was quite late, like they made the
Speaker 1: four hour trip to the concert, which I'm sure probably
Speaker 1: started at like seven, eight nine o'clock, went a few
Speaker 1: hours now, they got another long drive back home, so
Speaker 1: it's in the wee hours of the morning, and she
Speaker 1: began drifting off to sleep, and it would be then
Speaker 1: that Brandon would strike. Brandon turned his car into a
Speaker 1: dead end road that was not too far from where
Speaker 1: Bianca lived, and this is where they were isolated. He
Speaker 1: put his car in park, he set up his camera,
Speaker 1: hit record, and reached down beside his seat and retrieved
Speaker 1: a large black handled knife he had stashed away. Then
Speaker 1: in this instant, in the early morning hours of July fourteenth,
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, Brandon attacked the sleeping Bianca and began quote
Speaker 1: sawing at her throat with the knife. Oh gosh, police
Speaker 1: described it as.
Speaker 2: Sawing, oh wow, okay.
Speaker 1: Yanka woke up when the attack began, but unfortunately would
Speaker 1: quickly succumb to her wounds from the assault. Brandon now
Speaker 1: took over Beyanca's lifeless body with her head not dearly
Speaker 1: nearly decapitated. He left her sitting in the car while
Speaker 1: he exited and built a bonfire while listening to the
Speaker 1: song test Drive by Joji on repeat. He then took
Speaker 1: to social media. He started on Instagram Stories, where at
Speaker 1: six forty am on July fourteenth, he posted a still
Speaker 1: frame photo from movie Fight Club, then posting a photo
Speaker 1: after that from behind the wheel of his car looking
Speaker 1: at the nighttime road with words here comes hell. It's
Speaker 1: redemption right, which her song lyrics from a band called
Speaker 1: Hollywood Undead. From there, it only escalates. His next post
Speaker 1: would be a picture of Bianca's lifeless body, now removed
Speaker 1: from the car, laying underneath a green tarp, but you
Speaker 1: can clearly see the outline of a person underneath his
Speaker 1: bloody hand in the picture, with a caption quote, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry Bianca.
Speaker 2: Holy shit. Yeah, you gotta be fucking me.
Speaker 1: Oh it gets worse. After these images being posted, Brandon
Speaker 1: then took to another popular app called Discord. In a
Speaker 1: group chat with several other individuals, including members of Bianca's family,
Speaker 1: Brandon posted a picture of Bianca's deceased body where you
Speaker 1: could see very clearly her face and lifeless eyes, along
Speaker 1: with the words quote, sorry, fuckers, you're going to have
Speaker 1: to find somebody else to orbit. So to clarify, orbiting
Speaker 1: is apparently when people follow an online individual, idolizing said person,
Speaker 1: like a creator or an influencer. It's kind of like
Speaker 1: a term simping that means anything to you.
Speaker 2: Jeez, this is okay, you said she I can't even speak.
Speaker 2: There was family in this discord chat. Correct, and this
Speaker 2: is going to be how they're finding out that she
Speaker 2: has died.
Speaker 1: Correct. This is how the family found out she died
Speaker 1: via photo sent by Brandon?
Speaker 2: What the fuck is wrong with him? Was he on drugs?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Sober?
Speaker 2: That is so just.
Speaker 1: Yeah you could, br no, you like and understand why?
Speaker 2: Like she literally thought that she was with a friend
Speaker 2: and in a safe place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was the exact opposite.
Speaker 2: Wow, my gosh.
Speaker 1: He very quickly did not hesitate to take her life
Speaker 1: because she didn't want to be with him. She kissed
Speaker 1: some other dude.
Speaker 2: It was only because she kissed someone else like that. Ish.
Speaker 1: So Brandon reportedly also called numerous of his family members
Speaker 1: and then reportedly alleged or resembled a suicide note slash
Speaker 1: goodbye on said phones which prompted family to call nine
Speaker 1: one one. They weren't the only ones to call, though,
Speaker 1: People online who had now seen the photos which were
Speaker 1: posted you know, Instagram and Discord, had begun dialing nine
Speaker 1: one one, most of them not sure if this is
Speaker 1: real or fake or what the hell? So they called in,
Speaker 1: and so did Brandon himself. His call went as such, quote,
Speaker 1: my name is Brandon. The victim is Bianca Michelle Devins.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to stay on the phone for long
Speaker 1: because I still need to do the suicide part of
Speaker 1: the murder suicide.
Speaker 2: I was just about okay, I yeah, this one is
Speaker 2: this one you didn't warn me about at all?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I didn't, No, you didn't. You really didn't, Okay, And
Speaker 2: that's the call. And then he just hung hangs up
Speaker 2: the fucking phone.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that's the only thing that was said,
Speaker 1: but that is the majority of what he said. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's the only insert from the call that I could
Speaker 1: find and locate.
Speaker 2: You have to be kidding me. This has me so uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: It's a fucked up one. Now. The police, of course,
Speaker 1: immediately took these nine and one calls very seriously and
Speaker 1: they immediately went to Bianca's home to make contact with
Speaker 1: Bianca's family to see if they can get a hold
Speaker 1: of her. You know, again, they thought it was.
Speaker 2: Fake because yeah, who and who would have done something
Speaker 2: like this for right? Can I just go back to
Speaker 2: the sawing thing? So basically he's sawing her and she
Speaker 2: like wakes up from being asleep and it's just too late,
Speaker 2: like basically basically even like help herself.
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know. I don't know if she like
Speaker 1: woke up to the act of him cutting her throat
Speaker 1: or woke up to him like attacking her and like
Speaker 1: getting on top of her, but she could not defend herself.
Speaker 1: He had a knife and he went right for her
Speaker 1: throat and it was far too late.
Speaker 2: Jeez. Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the family had, at this point before the
Speaker 1: police arrived, already seen the photos, hoping it was fake too. Yes,
Speaker 1: no one could get a hold of Bianca. Her mother
Speaker 1: was just unable to reach. And in that moment, officers
Speaker 1: knew that when they reached the scene that Brandon where
Speaker 1: Brandon told him they were, they would be finding something
Speaker 1: absolutely horrific, and they were right. As a police arrived,
Speaker 1: Brandon took the knife he had used to murder Beyondka
Speaker 1: and turned it on himself. He then slit a left
Speaker 1: side of his own neck and threw the knife in
Speaker 1: his car and laid back onto the green tarp that
Speaker 1: was covering Bianca's body. Immediately, he began taking selfies on
Speaker 1: his phone with his neck bleeding out and posting photo
Speaker 1: one of the photos to snapcheck Snapchat Sorry. In the photo,
Speaker 1: he's showing off his neck on which is now bleeding,
Speaker 1: onto his blood saturated shirt, with the caption quote ashes
Speaker 1: to ashes. Law enforcement body camera footage shows officers approaching
Speaker 1: with guns drawn, talking to Brandon, who tells them where
Speaker 1: the knife is and that Bianca is under the tarp.
Speaker 1: A suicide note and message were found at the scene,
Speaker 1: and the body cam footage even shows the spray painted
Speaker 1: message that was left on the road and it read
Speaker 1: quote may you never forget me? And I just want
Speaker 1: to say this, Brandon, I hope the whole fucking word
Speaker 1: forgets you.
Speaker 2: Shit. No shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So he was quickly arrested and was rushed to
Speaker 1: hospital where he received emergency surgery for his self inflicted
Speaker 1: wounds to his neck. He survived, and the following day
Speaker 1: he was officially charged with second degree murder of Bianca Devns.
Speaker 2: So he didn't go on this trip intending that that
Speaker 2: was going to happen, But I guess because she was
Speaker 2: well with another guy, kind of kissing another guy.
Speaker 1: There is the possibility that it could have been a
Speaker 1: premeditation because he had the knife stashed.
Speaker 2: Away, right, he fucking did.
Speaker 1: He had the knife stashed away and ready. And now
Speaker 1: police are suggesting potentially because he had recording equipment available.
Speaker 1: But I believe the video that he recorded while killing
Speaker 1: her was on his phone because he did record the
Speaker 1: entire attack him Because I said, the police described a
Speaker 1: sawing action. Yeah, they watched the video of him slicing
Speaker 1: her throat.
Speaker 2: No one should have to watch that. And when you
Speaker 2: went to go about describing, you were like grabbed his phone.
Speaker 2: This okay, just like he just cannot be in his
Speaker 2: right mind. This is some of the most bizarre shit
Speaker 2: that I've ever heard. And also not at the same time,
Speaker 2: because of just the day and age that we live in.
Speaker 2: We're social media and like our phones and documenting everything
Speaker 2: is just so forefront in all of our minds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just run rampant and taken over many people,
Speaker 1: and clearly something like this has taken over Brandon's life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where it's probably just almost felt natural for him
Speaker 2: to just be posting what the fuck he was doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, there are many investigators, such as police Sergeant
Speaker 1: Michael Curly, who actually believe Brandon was searching social media
Speaker 1: fame himself and wanting to post this and also his message,
Speaker 1: you know that he wrote in spray paint, may you
Speaker 1: Never Forget Me? So he may be looking at, you know,
Speaker 1: Bianca's success on Instagram, having all these followers, and maybe
Speaker 1: he wanted to achieve that too, And now that he's
Speaker 1: angry with her, he's going to achieve what she did
Speaker 1: by killing her and posting it too. Yeah, there's that
Speaker 1: whole other layer there too, that he's wanting to achieve
Speaker 1: this stardom, this fame, may you never forget Me sort
Speaker 1: of fucking attitude by killing her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it almost seemed like he was just obsessed with
Speaker 2: her numerous ways. Really.
Speaker 1: Oh, he was through and through for sure.
Speaker 2: But rightfully so, because it sounds like she was amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So back to that potential premeditation part, though, there
Speaker 1: was also evidence that will be found through Brandon's search
Speaker 1: history showing that he made online searches on how to
Speaker 1: locate the carotid artery, which is the artery that runs
Speaker 1: through a person's neck and feeds blood flow to your brain.
Speaker 2: You pointed out, Well, I'm just like that definitely is
Speaker 2: kind of a premeditation then for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he also searched how to incapacitate or kill someone
Speaker 1: and other general searches for choking and hanging.
Speaker 2: Oh jeez, Yeah, I can say my search history is
Speaker 2: pretty fucked. But I guess like all stuff like that
Speaker 2: on there.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you and I host a true crime podcast,
Speaker 1: so I think if there's any investigators, we could probably
Speaker 1: be like, look at our podcasts. I'm pretty sure those
Speaker 1: searches are going to be related to many of these things.
Speaker 2: My part or my search history is so all over
Speaker 2: the place because I have like true crime celebrities, hockey,
Speaker 2: Like I feel like it's just chickens chickens. Like people
Speaker 2: would be like, who is this chick what is she
Speaker 2: actually interested in?
Speaker 1: Well, that's like me and my personal Instagram pages, Like
Speaker 1: I've got huskies, I've got mountain biking, I've got tiny
Speaker 1: home stuff. And then it's like just sprinkled in with
Speaker 1: like a little bit of a few other things just
Speaker 1: randomly in there.
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like having diverse interests is good.
Speaker 2: I kind of strive for that, I believe fair enough.
Speaker 1: It's not a bad thing by any means. I'm just
Speaker 1: sure it confuses the hell out of the algorithm. But anyways,
Speaker 1: we digress. So in court on July twenty ninth, twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: Brandon would plead not guilty to second degree.
Speaker 2: Murder you don't say.
Speaker 1: He was later charged with promoting prison contraband as well,
Speaker 1: after officers had found a shive in his possession, like
Speaker 1: in his cell, constructed out of a sharpened toothbrush. Brtal
Speaker 1: He had allegedly also written a letter to a friend
Speaker 1: that was found in a cell as well, where he
Speaker 1: bragged about knowing what it felt like to kill someone.
Speaker 1: And the letter also actually explained his motive for the
Speaker 1: murder as well.
Speaker 2: Okay, and what was it?
Speaker 1: So? To quote it, it read he couldn't handle the
Speaker 1: thought of her walking out of his life.
Speaker 2: What a piece of shit?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: The fact that he's already planning shit in prison too
Speaker 2: is just so alarming.
Speaker 1: I know, it's totally fucked. He enjoyed the shit out
Speaker 1: of it, and he wants that glory for being a murderer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of feel like it could if he
Speaker 2: doesn't remain in jail, there could be more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which I'm gonna say this, he clearly has that
Speaker 1: glory for being a murderer at this point. He does.
Speaker 1: It's undeniable. But that is the worst fucking fame you
Speaker 1: could ever.
Speaker 2: Oh, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: You're famous for all the wrong reasons. Not a soul
Speaker 1: in his fucking planet likes you.
Speaker 2: No, you're not respected whatsoever.
Speaker 1: No. I wonder if he even has visitors honestly.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean maybe he's family, but just because they
Speaker 2: kind of feel obligated, right, yeah.
Speaker 1: Well because they're family.
Speaker 2: Who knows that.
Speaker 1: But anyways, on February tenth of twenty twenty, Brandon changed
Speaker 1: his plea to guilty, and on June second, tried to
Speaker 1: ages plea back to not guilty, but was rejected as
Speaker 1: he had already admitted his guilt in various different ways,
Speaker 1: like he had talked to officers and all this sort
Speaker 1: of stuff, and he's like, oh, yeah, I'm guilty, and
Speaker 1: there's the video like it was just they're just like, no,
Speaker 1: you're not changing your fucking plea.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: So on March sixteenth, twenty twenty one, Brandon Clark was
Speaker 1: sentenced to twenty five years to life in prison.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean that's probably the maximum, but gosh, I
Speaker 2: was so young though that it just it has to
Speaker 2: be more than twenty five years.
Speaker 1: I sure fucking hope it is. Now. Since her daughter's death,
Speaker 1: Kimberly Devns was also dealing with an onslaught of graphic
Speaker 1: images of her daughter for years and I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: still is to this day. Many cruel people on the
Speaker 1: internet still circulate the images and have even sent them
Speaker 1: to Beyonca's family members out of sick and twisted humor.
Speaker 2: Seriously, yes, they're kidding me.
Speaker 1: Why many of those people who are quote orbiters that
Speaker 1: Brandon was talking about find someone else to orbit now?
Speaker 1: Or also these quote in cells is another term for
Speaker 1: many of these type people who just thrive in this,
Speaker 1: Like these in cells are people that like they're guys
Speaker 1: who can't attract women in the real world, but then
Speaker 1: they they orbit these women on social media platforms and
Speaker 1: then it's like when they get rejected, they just like
Speaker 1: hate on them like that sort of thing. And these
Speaker 1: sort of sick fucks are the ones that are doing this.
Speaker 2: There is just there's no excuse for anyone to be
Speaker 2: sending anything like that to a anyone or the family, Like,
Speaker 2: what kind of unbelievably disgusting piece of scum are you?
Speaker 1: I know, Biyonca's younger sister, Olivia, actually couldn't even facelogging
Speaker 1: into any social media platforms for over a year because
Speaker 1: she had this fear of like seeing more photos that
Speaker 1: she could possibly come across every sister's brutal, fucking murder online.
Speaker 2: Wow, that is so beyond sad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Kimberly originally thought Brandon Clark was a quiet,
Speaker 1: nice man, but now she realizes who he truly was
Speaker 1: and being a part of this whole in cell community online,
Speaker 1: so to quote her, there's definitely this toxic max sculinity
Speaker 1: where they believe they're entitled to women. And I really
Speaker 1: think Bianca stood for everything they hated. She was a
Speaker 1: strong woman, and I mean even the motive behind her
Speaker 1: murder is if I can't have you, no one can.
Speaker 1: In the wake of the tragedy, the family and online
Speaker 1: supporters advocated for change that would prevent people from sharing
Speaker 1: violent or harmful footage on social media. On September twenty one,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, the introduction of Bianca's Law was put in place,
Speaker 1: and in January of twenty twenty two, the New York
Speaker 1: State passed the law, which criminalizes posting, sharing, or publishing
Speaker 1: personal images with intent to degrade or views under certain circumstances.
Speaker 1: Beyonca's family would also create a scholarship in Beyanka's name
Speaker 1: for students pursuing psychology degrees. In July of twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: Biyanka's family had actually sued the Oneita County District Attorney's
Speaker 1: Officer office sorry for distribution of child pornography. So allegedly
Speaker 1: they had learned from producers but documentary on Beyanca's story
Speaker 1: that they had received footage from the District Attorney's office
Speaker 1: of Bianca's death and of her having sex, along with
Speaker 1: other contents from her personal phone, which included nude photographs
Speaker 1: of Bianca.
Speaker 2: What the fuck?
Speaker 1: Beyonca was seventeen years old, which makes this distribution of
Speaker 1: child pornography. Allegedly a YouTuber was also given access to
Speaker 1: this in request response to the Freedom of Information Act.
Speaker 1: The lawsuit, however, has and it's been dismissed by courts,
Speaker 1: with the judge saying the state's open record laws could
Speaker 1: not be used to obtain child pornography from government agencies
Speaker 1: who prosecute offenders.
Speaker 2: Okay, why on earth is anything from her phone being
Speaker 2: put out there? I don't think that's actually okay, that's.
Speaker 1: Well, that's why there was this lawsuit. But there was
Speaker 1: a lot of like, there wasn't much said about this
Speaker 1: lawsuit once it was dismissed, basically the judge being like, yeah,
Speaker 1: with laws, you can't obtain that from the governing agencies,
Speaker 1: like you're stating, But there's people saying.
Speaker 2: That they did that.
Speaker 1: They did Oh man, that I'm assuming the court is
Speaker 1: saying they must have received it somewhere else. You can't
Speaker 1: prove it you got from the government.
Speaker 2: Well, of course they are. But the fact that this
Speaker 2: family is already dealing with so much shit, but they're
Speaker 2: still going about like creating scholarships and just trying to
Speaker 2: remember her in the best of ways, But then they're
Speaker 2: also having to deal with this complete bullshit. Really that
Speaker 2: should never have been leaked or put out there at all.
Speaker 1: Well, and those photos are still out there today. I
Speaker 1: saw many of the photos in my research. I am
Speaker 1: not going to tell you where how to access them
Speaker 1: because I hope that they eventually get taken down and
Speaker 1: fade away and are never out there again.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean the Internet. Once something's up there,
Speaker 2: though it kind of is up there, yep. Which is
Speaker 2: scary and disappointing and awful.
Speaker 1: It really is. And it's scary to think how just
Speaker 1: putting yourself out there like that, like like Bianc was
Speaker 1: doing and trusted, as you said, a friend, it just
Speaker 1: turned around and ended her own life.
Speaker 2: Yeah wow, And she just like just ended this beautiful soul.
Speaker 2: And who knows what she would have done with her life.
Speaker 2: I bet you she would have just done like some
Speaker 2: amazing things.
Speaker 1: I honestly imagine that she would have continued with her
Speaker 1: Instagram and continue with her education, and I have a
Speaker 1: feeling she would have taken her knowledge of psychology and
Speaker 1: started putting it out there in form of content helping people.
Speaker 2: That's which would have been so amazing to have because
Speaker 2: look at how many people need like just feel there
Speaker 2: alone or would love to have help or guidance or
Speaker 2: someone to look up to.
Speaker 1: And I think she would have been someone who would
Speaker 1: have guided a lot of people, she disappointed, she had,
Speaker 1: the audience, she had, the people watching her. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I think, being the kind soul that she was, if
Speaker 1: she had the education which she was going to get,
Speaker 1: she would have continued to help because at the very
Speaker 1: beginning I said she was the kind of person who
Speaker 1: would offer advice or even just be someone to listen
Speaker 1: if you needed it. Yeah, So I know she would
Speaker 1: have done that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I also just can't stop thinking about the mom too.
Speaker 2: And she would have saw these photos and just like
Speaker 2: you know, would have just so hoped that they were
Speaker 2: fit ache. Yeah, but then couldn't get a hold of
Speaker 2: her daughter. I just can't even imagine that kind of
Speaker 2: feeling her mom.
Speaker 1: I know, I'm honestly torn about the idea on the
Speaker 1: suicide portion of this. I mean, of course, I don't
Speaker 1: want anyone to fucking end their own life, don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, but sometimes people deserve things. Brandon deserves to
Speaker 1: be fucking shit on in life. I'm kind of glad
Speaker 1: he did survive so he can be fucking locked away,
Speaker 1: he can fucking rot, and he can know that the
Speaker 1: world fucking hates him. Because if he did end his life,
Speaker 1: he would have got his way and I'm glad he
Speaker 1: didn't get his way at least in that aspect.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but now I just feel like he's going to
Speaker 2: be Not that I like I would wanted him to
Speaker 2: have died either, but like he's just going to be
Speaker 2: in prison causing issues.
Speaker 1: Yeah, touche.
Speaker 2: Right, he's already has a freakin toothbrush made into a
Speaker 2: knife of sorts. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a flip side to everything, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: But maybe that'll just make him be in there for longer, right,
Speaker 2: which is definitely not a bad thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's the story of Bianca Devins. And I'm
Speaker 1: not even going to repeat the dude's name again because
Speaker 1: I do hope we all forget them.
Speaker 2: Well, I honestly cannot fucking remember his name.
Speaker 1: Good good, don't he's a piece of shit, Yeah, the
Speaker 1: douche Canoe. We don't like him. You can fuck off.
Speaker 2: That's all we need to know, exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, thank you so much for listening to this episode.
Speaker 1: Hopefully you guys enjoyed it. I mean, it's hard to
Speaker 1: enjoy stories like this at times, but we appreciate you
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Speaker 1: That'd be cool.
Speaker 2: Gosh wow, Okay, I don't even know how to finish
Speaker 2: that at.
Speaker 1: All, do So. We just covered a case where a
Speaker 1: creator was attacked and we're creators. We don't want you
Speaker 1: to attack us, but you can go ahead and support us.
Speaker 1: That would be cool.
Speaker 2: That would be amazing, That would be amazing. Well done
Speaker 2: on this. I just have one follow up question. Is
Speaker 2: this like a pretty well known case?
Speaker 1: Because I have not heard Yes, this is a relatively
Speaker 1: well known case, and it's fairly recent, only the last
Speaker 1: few years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I'm like, I'm surprised that I never
Speaker 2: heard of anything in the news about it or well.
Speaker 1: The reason why this one is quite well known is
Speaker 1: because well, the murder pictures were posted online.
Speaker 2: Well, and she also had like quite a bit of
Speaker 2: a following and stuff too.
Speaker 1: Exactly.
Speaker 2: So okay, well well done.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Should I say it?
Speaker 2: I don't know what do you want?
Speaker 1: To say that you're doing next weekisode. I just said it,
Speaker 1: so it's happening now.
Speaker 2: Wow, you just decided to do that just to set
Speaker 2: me up.
Speaker 1: Bank you were supposed to do this.
Speaker 2: I know, I've been shipping in the bed. I've just
Speaker 2: there's been a lot on the go.
Speaker 1: There has been, so I can't blame you. Your photography
Speaker 1: has been doing incredible and you've been stupid busy with that.
Speaker 1: So you do your thing, you still hear. I'll just
Speaker 1: keep pumping on episodes.
Speaker 2: If Nicole, the goal is for me to have it
Speaker 2: next done next week and it will most definitely probably
Speaker 2: be a two parter.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, there's a chance that I'm doing the next
Speaker 1: week's episode, but if I am, Nicole is definitely doing
Speaker 1: the following week. But she's probably doing this next.
Speaker 2: Ba Akay, you know what, Just tune in and we'll
Speaker 2: surprise you.
Speaker 1: She's doing an episode soon. Don't hold your breath on when.
Speaker 2: How's that so terrible? Anyway, thanks for being here, and
Speaker 2: either way, we'll see you next week.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And until then I was pointing at you. First
Speaker 1: you said I.
Speaker 2: Set you up to say it, and then you just
Speaker 2: stay wicked.
Speaker 1: There you go