1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on. Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,480 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,719 my daily show prep with all of the links, become 6 00:00:18,719 --> 00:00:22,359 a patron, go to dpeteclendershow dot com. Make sure you 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,920 hit the subscribe button. Get every episode for free right 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,320 to your smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so 9 00:00:27,399 --> 00:00:31,719 much for your support. The Let's shift gears to Texas 10 00:00:32,039 --> 00:00:35,039 or is it Illinois? It's a little bit of both. Actually, 11 00:00:36,799 --> 00:00:39,799 you heard about this big redistricting fight down in Texas. 12 00:00:40,079 --> 00:00:42,359 I've talked about it a little bit. I think last 13 00:00:42,399 --> 00:00:45,280 week when Democrats started making their threats that they were 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,280 going to flee the states. Flee the state of Texas, 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,640 go hide out somewhere else so there will not be 16 00:00:51,759 --> 00:00:58,359 a quorum present for voting in the Texas legislature. Michael Graham, 17 00:00:59,159 --> 00:01:02,759 writing up at the nh Journal New Hampshire Journal dot com, 18 00:01:03,679 --> 00:01:06,439 he says the lone Star state sparked a panic among 19 00:01:06,519 --> 00:01:10,920 Democrats when it announced plans to redraw its congressional maps 20 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,719 for twenty twenty six rather than waiting for the next 21 00:01:14,799 --> 00:01:18,319 census in twenty thirty. We went over this last week 22 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,239 that apparently Texas can do this. They're allowed to do 23 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,400 this in their state constitution. I don't know if we 24 00:01:25,439 --> 00:01:27,200 are able to. I don't think we are able to, 25 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:33,680 but apparently Texas can. Texas Republicans unveiled a map that 26 00:01:33,719 --> 00:01:39,560 would create five more competitive congressional seats for the Republican Party, 27 00:01:40,239 --> 00:01:43,319 which could potentially, you know, depending on the candidates, depending 28 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,480 on the campaigns they run, depending on the money they raise, 29 00:01:47,599 --> 00:01:51,400 depending on whether it's a red waveyear, blue wave year, 30 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,040 all of this stuff. There are lots of you know, 31 00:01:53,239 --> 00:01:57,040 you can only do so much with these maps based 32 00:01:57,079 --> 00:02:01,799 on your population. By the way, I believe we are 33 00:02:01,799 --> 00:02:04,799 now expected to in North Carolina, we are expected to 34 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:09,039 see the Republicans overtake the Democrats as the second largest 35 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,280 party by registration. That's going to apparently happen according to 36 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,400 the John Locke Foundation around March of twenty six. So 37 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:22,000 number one voter registration is unaffiliated, Number two Republican, number 38 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,960 three Democrat. That's the way the trend is going and 39 00:02:25,039 --> 00:02:28,000 has been going for years. So he's got it pegged 40 00:02:28,039 --> 00:02:34,159 it somewhere around March of twenty twenty six. Anyway, the 41 00:02:36,439 --> 00:02:41,919 maps that they unveiled would create five more competitive congressional 42 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,120 seats for their party. Does it mean they're guaranteed to 43 00:02:45,159 --> 00:02:47,520 win them? It just means they are now more competitive. 44 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,960 That could potentially shift the state from what it is now. 45 00:02:52,319 --> 00:02:55,840 It has twenty five Republican members of Congress and thirteen 46 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,080 Democrat members of Congress, so twenty five to thirteen that 47 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:06,280 would go to a thirty to eight breakdown. Outrage has ensued. Yes, 48 00:03:08,759 --> 00:03:12,280 Michael Graham writes that to their credit, nobody is hiding 49 00:03:12,319 --> 00:03:15,520 the motive here. No one's hiding what this is about. 50 00:03:15,719 --> 00:03:19,479 President Trump and his allies have said they're looking for 51 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,919 ways to help the Republicans hold the US House in 52 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,800 the midterms. Florida did this as well. DeSantis did this 53 00:03:26,879 --> 00:03:30,199 earlier this year, I think, or maybe last year I forget, 54 00:03:31,159 --> 00:03:33,439 but they redrew the maps down in Florida as well, 55 00:03:34,039 --> 00:03:37,680 gave Republicans more seats down there. Outrage did ensue for 56 00:03:37,719 --> 00:03:42,759 that too, And so here's the And then last week 57 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,560 we heard the Democrats threatening, well, if you do this, 58 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,599 we're going to go to our states that we control. 59 00:03:48,639 --> 00:03:52,759 The jerrymandering. Sorry, redistricting process, and we're just going to 60 00:03:52,840 --> 00:04:00,800 jerrymander two. And the Republicans said, okay, good luck, because 61 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:06,000 the heavy blue states have already jerrymandered really all they can. 62 00:04:07,639 --> 00:04:13,120 The most gerrymandered states in America are blue states. So 63 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,360 you knock yourselves out, guys, like, for example, did you 64 00:04:17,399 --> 00:04:24,639 know what the California breakdown is of voters that vote 65 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:31,680 for Republicans versus how many seats they control. It's nowhere 66 00:04:31,759 --> 00:04:38,560 close to being representative. Which is this proportional representation argument. 67 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,360 This is what we have heard in North Carolina for 68 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,600 well since twenty eleven, since Republicans began drawing the maps. 69 00:04:48,319 --> 00:04:51,839 We always hear this, well, you know, it's a fifty 70 00:04:51,879 --> 00:04:55,319 two to forty eight state. You know, we voted fifty 71 00:04:55,439 --> 00:04:59,480 two to forty eight percent for Republican president. So therefore 72 00:05:00,079 --> 00:05:03,600 we have to have fifty two to forty eight percentage 73 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,879 wise breakdown of our congressional seats. So if we have 74 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,120 fourteen seats, it should be a seven to seven split. 75 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,959 That's the argument, this proportional representation argument that they make 76 00:05:16,319 --> 00:05:21,879 that the representation should be proportionate to the presidential races. 77 00:05:23,519 --> 00:05:27,040 But if that's actually their standard, which spoiler alert, it 78 00:05:27,079 --> 00:05:30,160 is not their standard because when they do the map 79 00:05:30,199 --> 00:05:33,040 making in their states, they don't adhere to that standard. 80 00:05:33,399 --> 00:05:36,199 They just use that standard in order to try to 81 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,399 shame you into drawing a map that's more favorable to them, 82 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,480 or what they call fair maps. So that's why in 83 00:05:43,519 --> 00:05:47,399 a state like California, where about forty percent of the 84 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,600 voters they're vote Republican, they only get seventeen percent of 85 00:05:52,639 --> 00:06:00,680 the congressional seats. That's a fair map, right. Illinois terribly 86 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,000 jerry mandered as well. Trump got forty three percent of 87 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,879 the vote there, Republicans hold just three of the state's 88 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:11,519 seventeen seats, which equates to also seventeen percent. In other words, 89 00:06:11,519 --> 00:06:15,720 more than double the seats they are due. They should 90 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,800 get more than double the seats they are due, which 91 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:22,120 would be about four additional seats. Now go back over 92 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,199 to the Texas example, and they're looking to add five. 93 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,639 So you could argue that the Texas jerry mander is 94 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:37,079 to offset the California and the Illinois jerry manders. Right, 95 00:06:39,079 --> 00:06:42,920 assuming Texas new maps deliver five GOP seats, that outcome 96 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:49,360 would still be less partisan than Illinois. Oh sorry, the 97 00:06:49,439 --> 00:06:51,040 numbers I just gave you was California. I think I 98 00:06:51,079 --> 00:06:56,560 said Illinois. That was California. Seventeen percent, forty three percent 99 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,959 of the vote, and they get three of the seventeen seats, 100 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:05,399 so that's seventeen percent. That's the California numbers. In Illinois, 101 00:07:05,639 --> 00:07:09,560 Democrats would control eight of the state's thirty eight congressional seats, 102 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:15,720 or twenty two percent. That doesn't seem right. California has 103 00:07:15,759 --> 00:07:19,480 already stripped Republicans down to seventeen percent. Maryland has reduced 104 00:07:19,519 --> 00:07:22,879 its eight seat delegation, so they have eight members of 105 00:07:22,879 --> 00:07:25,240 Congress in Maryland, which is also one of the worst 106 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,319 jerry manders in America. You don't how many of the 107 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:34,920 eight seats Republicans have one, one seat out of eight 108 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,160 that is not representative, that is not a proportional representation 109 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:44,000 of their voting habits. Every four years, about forty percent 110 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:49,800 of New Englanders vote Republican, but there are zero GOP 111 00:07:49,959 --> 00:07:53,160 members of the US House from New England, the entire region. 112 00:07:53,759 --> 00:07:57,959 None like This is the problem that Democrats have on 113 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,040 making good on their threats to Jerryman the Bejeebis out 114 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,600 of their maps in order to penalize Republicans. Is that 115 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,879 you already have done it. You can't do it anymore. 116 00:08:05,959 --> 00:08:08,399 If you start trying to dilute your districts through a 117 00:08:08,439 --> 00:08:13,600 mid decade redraw, you're going to end up making more 118 00:08:13,639 --> 00:08:18,560 competitive races. You're going to have to draw Democrats out 119 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,839 of districts that you drew to heavily favor those Democrats 120 00:08:21,839 --> 00:08:23,680 in the first place. So now you're going to have 121 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,240 to draw those voters out redraw the lines. They're going 122 00:08:26,279 --> 00:08:28,519 to go into other areas, and now you're going to 123 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,759 have a district that is actually more winnable for a Republican. 124 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,679 You can't make it worse for the Republicans. You can 125 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:39,399 only make it more advantageous for them. So please throw 126 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,440 me in that Brier patch. This doesn't even take into 127 00:08:42,519 --> 00:08:46,879 account the undercounting of the half a dozen Republican states 128 00:08:46,879 --> 00:08:49,840 in the census last time around and the overcounting of 129 00:08:49,879 --> 00:08:54,840 the blue states in the last census count coincidentally, surely 130 00:08:55,399 --> 00:08:58,879 it was a simple coincidence that of all of the 131 00:08:58,919 --> 00:09:01,679 states that got under cat like, six of the seven 132 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,679 were Republican, and of all the states that got overcounted, 133 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:09,000 all of them were Democrat, which means what they got 134 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,279 to keep more seats, Republicans didn't get more seats. Democrat 135 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,919 states got to keep more electoral College votes. Republican states 136 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:24,080 did not get those electoral college votes. So yeah, I'm 137 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:29,200 okay with them trying to do another redraw. It could 138 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,799 be a swing of what twenty to thirty votes in 139 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:37,840 the US House. And so the Democrats in Texas fled 140 00:09:37,879 --> 00:09:42,120 their state. They fled their state, and guys, I am 141 00:09:42,519 --> 00:09:46,200 I'm sorry to say, but the theater kids are acting 142 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,039 out again. All right. If you're listening to this show, 143 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,639 you know I try to keep up with all sorts 144 00:09:50,639 --> 00:09:52,679 of current events, and I know you do too, And 145 00:09:52,759 --> 00:09:56,200 you've probably heard me say get your news from multiple sources. 146 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,960 Why Well, because it's how you detect media bias. Is 147 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,200 why I've been so impressed with ground News. 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Subscribe through that link and 159 00:10:38,919 --> 00:10:41,759 you'll get fifteen percent off any subscription. I use the 160 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,200 Vantage plan to get unlimited access to every feature. Your 161 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,080 subscription then not only helps my podcast, but it also 162 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,879 supports Ground News as they make the media landscape more transparent. 163 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:58,200 NBC News reports quote a showdown over redistricting in Texas, 164 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:03,399 dozens of state Democrats took refuge roughly one thousand miles 165 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:08,559 away from home, saying they fled Texas to deny quorum, 166 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,799 which is the minimum amount of you know, members of 167 00:11:12,799 --> 00:11:15,360 a body that have to be present in order for 168 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,480 the vote to be legitimate. So that's the reason they 169 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,039 left the state is so I'm not here, I'm not 170 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,360 in the state. You can't come get me. Ha haa haa. 171 00:11:23,399 --> 00:11:28,519 So now you can't have a legitimate vote, so they 172 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,679 can deny the Republican efforts to add as many as 173 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:36,320 five congressional seats to their map to where did they 174 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:42,200 flee to oppose jerry mandering? That's right, one of the 175 00:11:42,519 --> 00:11:48,559 if not the most jerrymandered state jerrymandered by Democrats. That's 176 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,320 where they chose to go to, which seems like a 177 00:11:52,519 --> 00:11:57,240 bit of a pr fail because now you've made it 178 00:11:57,279 --> 00:12:00,200 part of the story. If you had gone to some 179 00:12:00,279 --> 00:12:03,639 state that doesn't jerry mander and is controlled by Democrats, 180 00:12:03,639 --> 00:12:05,279 first off, it would be a state that's not in 181 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:09,480 the continental US, but like that would actually help make 182 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,919 your case, I think a little bit stronger to not 183 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,320 highlight the fact that you have engaged in even far 184 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,840 more egregious behavior that you are claiming to be opposed to. 185 00:12:20,039 --> 00:12:26,840 Now you know, Governor J. B. Pritzker stood alongside these 186 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:32,440 Democrats to rail against what they charged was a racist, unfair, 187 00:12:32,759 --> 00:12:40,320 and undemocratic attempt to overhaul the lone Star state's political map. Yes, 188 00:12:43,399 --> 00:12:49,440 that prompted the Governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, to issue 189 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:55,279 a strongly worded letter. It begins thusly quote, real Texans 190 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:59,519 do not run from a fight. He called you all 191 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:04,720 not real times. These absences were premeditated for an illegitimate purpose, 192 00:13:04,759 --> 00:13:09,480 what one representative called breaking quorum. Democrats hatched a deliberate 193 00:13:09,519 --> 00:13:12,039 plan not to show up for work for the specific 194 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,320 purpose of abdicating the duties of their office and thwarting 195 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:19,720 the Chamber's business. That amounts to an abandonment or forfeiture 196 00:13:19,759 --> 00:13:25,879 of an elected state office. An abandonment or forfeiture of 197 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:31,039 an elected state office. I don't know if that's true, 198 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:36,080 like legally, technically speaking, I think it's true politically speaking, 199 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:40,159 and from a logical standpoint, he says. When the governor 200 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:45,000 calls a special session, our constitution provides that quote, the 201 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:51,279 legislature shall meet. It's not optional, it's a duty. The 202 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,000 absconded Democrat House members were elected to meet and vote 203 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,559 on legislation, not to prevent votes that may not go 204 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,879 their way. Every session, legislators on both sides of the 205 00:14:01,919 --> 00:14:05,360 aisle find themselves on the losing side of a legislative vote, 206 00:14:05,399 --> 00:14:08,840 and every session, most of those legislators find a way 207 00:14:08,879 --> 00:14:13,399 to disagree agreeably and behave like adults rather than going 208 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,000 a wall. Sir, this is the Democrat party. I don't 209 00:14:17,039 --> 00:14:19,159 know if you can ask them to behave like adults, 210 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:24,720 he said. This truancy ends now. The derelict Democrat House 211 00:14:24,799 --> 00:14:27,799 members must return to Texas and be in attendance when 212 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,480 the House reconvenes at three PM today. For any member 213 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,440 who fails to do so, I will invoke Texas Attorney 214 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,720 General Opinion number KP dash O three eight two to 215 00:14:38,799 --> 00:14:43,480 remove the missing Democrats from membership in the Texas House. 216 00:14:44,639 --> 00:14:47,240 He's going to remove them from office, which will of 217 00:14:47,279 --> 00:14:52,360 course prompt all sorts of other litigation. In that opinion, 218 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,759 the Attorney General considered whether Texas law allows for a 219 00:14:56,879 --> 00:14:59,960 determination that a legislator has vacated office if they intend 220 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,399 mentionally break quorum, and the Attorney General concluded that quote 221 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,399 whether a specific legislator abandoned his or her office such 222 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,840 that a vacancy occurred will be a fact question for 223 00:15:11,039 --> 00:15:15,879 a court. Okay, so this isn't a slam dunk of 224 00:15:15,919 --> 00:15:19,679 a of a tactic as people I think may think 225 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,519 it is. Even the Attorney General Ken Paxton right, even 226 00:15:23,639 --> 00:15:27,840 he was saying this would be a question for the court. 227 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,919 He further concluded that quote, through a quote warranto action, 228 00:15:33,639 --> 00:15:38,519 a district court may determine, may determine, not shall, but 229 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,559 may that a legislator has forfeited his or her office 230 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,120 due to abandonment, and can remove that legislator from office, 231 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,480 thereby creating a vacancy. So he says that empowers him 232 00:15:48,279 --> 00:15:52,639 to fill the vacancies. In addition to abandoning their offices, 233 00:15:52,639 --> 00:15:57,120 he says these legislators may have committed felonies. Many absentee 234 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:01,200 Democrats are soliciting funds to evade the funds they will 235 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:05,360 incur under House rules. Any Democrat who solicits, accepts, or 236 00:16:05,559 --> 00:16:08,399 agrees to accept such funds to assist in the violation 237 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,120 of legislative duties or for purposes of skipping a vote 238 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:18,799 may have violated bribery laws because you're being paid to 239 00:16:18,879 --> 00:16:23,759 achieve some sort of a political or legislative outcome. That's 240 00:16:23,799 --> 00:16:27,120 an interesting theory. The same could be true for any 241 00:16:27,159 --> 00:16:30,600 other person who offers, confers, or agrees to confer such 242 00:16:30,679 --> 00:16:35,159 funds to fleeing Democrat House members, So whoever's paying them 243 00:16:35,559 --> 00:16:41,399 could also be charged with bribery. He says. I will 244 00:16:41,679 --> 00:16:45,120 use my full extradition authority to demand the return to 245 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:50,200 Texas of any potential out of state felons. So if 246 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,879 he can get bribery charges against you, then he'll extradite 247 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:58,200 your took us back to Texas. So which way do 248 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,399 you want to go here? Do you want to stay 249 00:17:00,399 --> 00:17:05,039 there and risk the filling of your seats with goobernatorial appointments. 250 00:17:05,839 --> 00:17:08,039 While you litigate it out, you're also going to be 251 00:17:08,079 --> 00:17:10,799 facing bribery charges and then he's gonna extradite you back 252 00:17:10,839 --> 00:17:13,839 to Texas and you're not gonna have the seat anyway, 253 00:17:14,519 --> 00:17:21,440 Like is the juice worth the squeeze here? Now, if 254 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,000 all of this sounds familiar, like don't you remember, like, 255 00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:29,640 wasn't there some other legislature that fled the state? You 256 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:34,400 would be correct. It was Texas Democrats who have done 257 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:39,319 this not once, not twice, but like three different times, 258 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,240 maybe four. Here's a great idea. How about making an 259 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,559 escape to a really special and secluded getaway in western 260 00:17:46,599 --> 00:17:49,079 North Carolina. Just a quick drive up the mountain and 261 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,200 Cabins of Asheville is your connection. 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Have you ever explained where the term 281 00:18:58,759 --> 00:19:05,519 Jerrymanderin came from? It's interesting and informative if nothing else. Yes, 282 00:19:06,039 --> 00:19:13,240 I have no it. Okay, it comes from a comes 283 00:19:13,319 --> 00:19:16,920 from a guy. His name was Jerry, last name Mander 284 00:19:17,519 --> 00:19:21,799 and he was notoriously unable to walk straight, but they 285 00:19:21,839 --> 00:19:26,599 gave him the job of walking the district lines for 286 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:31,319 the original Continental Congress, and so he could not walk straight, 287 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,680 and so he would just track this line. He would 288 00:19:33,759 --> 00:19:36,640 leave chalk lines, and then they made the maps off 289 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,640 of that jerry mandarin. That's how they got that. I'm 290 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,720 just kidding. That's not at all the story. That's that's 291 00:19:44,759 --> 00:19:48,480 not the story. Uh. It was a congressman. I think 292 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:53,440 it's actually pronounced Gary g e r r y congressman Gary. 293 00:19:53,759 --> 00:19:56,559 And I think he was from Taxachusetts, I want to say. 294 00:19:57,079 --> 00:20:00,440 And he had a he drew a diff strict that 295 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:05,319 looked like a salamander. That's the mander, part of Jerry's mander, 296 00:20:06,559 --> 00:20:12,480 jerry mandering. That's where that came from. Hey, Pete, I 297 00:20:12,559 --> 00:20:15,279 watched three hours of the Texas House debate last week 298 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,200 so that you did not have to thank you. I 299 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:22,759 appreciate that. It was hilarious. Democrats argument was nothing but racism. 300 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:31,880 Oh and the speaker is a real bad guy. Joey 301 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,680 says Democrats have not caught on yet that under Trump 302 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,920 two point zero, Republicans are only playing by their rules. 303 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:42,240 In other words, Democrats rules, period, full stop. Yeah. Look, 304 00:20:42,279 --> 00:20:48,400 I warned Democrats that this was coming for years before Trump. 305 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,440 I was like, you guys cannot like I. I want 306 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,200 a single application of a consistent standard, right, I want 307 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,599 a consistent standard applied, And you can't keep ammoring for 308 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:07,440 Republicans to be better than you are. Meanwhile, they keep losing. See, 309 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,000 And I suspect that's why a lot of the the 310 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,319 rage is embedded in this in these protests is because 311 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:18,680 the left knows this stuff works. They know that, so 312 00:21:19,319 --> 00:21:24,319 they recognize power for what it is because they're all 313 00:21:24,319 --> 00:21:27,880 about the power dynamics being of the left. So I 314 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,680 suspect they're very, very worried they're going to be in 315 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:34,200 the wilderness for a very long time. If I were king, 316 00:21:34,279 --> 00:21:36,839 Alan says, I would change the locks on their office 317 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:43,640 doors as abandoned property he if I were king. And 318 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,440 then there's some stuff. Okay, so here's a there's some 319 00:21:46,519 --> 00:21:49,599 text here about last hour I was talking about Israel 320 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,480 and Gaza. There are a couple of texts here I 321 00:21:51,519 --> 00:21:54,079 will get to. There's a bit of developing news that 322 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,799 the Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Yahoo, has reportedly said 323 00:21:58,079 --> 00:22:01,839 that Israel will go in and ReOC pie Gaza. It's 324 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,680 because there's been this question of what to do now, right, like, 325 00:22:06,759 --> 00:22:10,160 how do you secure the area to prevent Hamas from 326 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,680 coming back into power. And there have been talks of like, well, 327 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,279 maybe they get some other Arab countries in there, some 328 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,599 like Arably nations could send troops and they could do whatever. 329 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:25,920 And apparently Israel's like, we're going to occupy it. Okay, 330 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,720 well I just said that, so I might as well 331 00:22:27,759 --> 00:22:29,279 do this before I get to the history of the 332 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:34,000 fleeing democrats in Texas. Stan says one thing to remember 333 00:22:34,039 --> 00:22:37,200 is Gaza had elections in two thousand and six. Contrary 334 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,640 to what the experts thought would happen, the citizens there 335 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,240 did not vote for democracy, but for Hamas instead. So 336 00:22:43,279 --> 00:22:45,880 the two states solution would be an end to Israel, 337 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,519 which is the goal, and the civilians living in Gaza 338 00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:51,240 are essentially being used as pawns to further that objective. 339 00:22:51,519 --> 00:22:54,200 It's as though the Israelis care more about the civilians 340 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,920 living there than Hamas does. They do, even though those 341 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,000 most of those Palestinians do not care about the Israel. 342 00:23:02,559 --> 00:23:04,359 That's the polling people. You can get mad at me 343 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:11,079 all you want, but that's the polling. Why is Amas 344 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,880 still in power. This happens every time hostages keep from 345 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,960 destroying the enemy. It's hard to do and sad to say, 346 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,160 but the hostages can't get in the way of wiping 347 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:26,079 out the enemy one hundred percent. Look, this is yeah, 348 00:23:26,079 --> 00:23:27,920 I mean, this is one of the decisions that Israel 349 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,960 has been faced with because at the very beginning, you know, 350 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,000 they knew Hamas was in there in the tunnels, and 351 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,799 one of the things that was proposed was to just 352 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:39,079 flood the tunnels. It's on the Gaza is on the waterfront. 353 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,680 You just go in there with earth movers. You find 354 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,079 one entrance to a tunnel and you break through and 355 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,039 you connect it with a pipe or something, dig a 356 00:23:50,079 --> 00:23:54,720 trench to the ocean and allow that sea water to 357 00:23:54,759 --> 00:23:56,559 flow on in there. It'll short out all of the 358 00:23:56,599 --> 00:24:00,759 electrical circuits and everything, and it will kill all the 359 00:24:00,759 --> 00:24:06,759 hostages though if they're in the tunnels. So they didn't 360 00:24:06,759 --> 00:24:11,759 do it right. Again, I always point this out. If 361 00:24:11,799 --> 00:24:17,920 Israel was intent on committing genocide and ethnically cleansing and 362 00:24:18,039 --> 00:24:21,279 kicking all the Palestinians out of Gaza, either by kicking 363 00:24:21,319 --> 00:24:23,480 them out or killing them, they could have done that. 364 00:24:23,759 --> 00:24:29,119 They would have done it already. So all right, now 365 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:34,200 I'll go back to the this from the Texas Tribune. 366 00:24:34,519 --> 00:24:40,759 This habit or tactic of fleeing Texas when you can't 367 00:24:40,759 --> 00:24:44,759 stop legislation that you really don't like. This has been 368 00:24:44,799 --> 00:24:50,599 going on for one hundred and fifty years. There. In 369 00:24:50,799 --> 00:24:56,599 June of eighteen seventy thirteen, Texas senators walked out of 370 00:24:56,599 --> 00:25:00,680 the Capitol to block a bill giving the governor wartime powers, 371 00:25:00,839 --> 00:25:03,960 depriving the Upper Chamber of the two thirds quorum required 372 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,920 for voting. Though the fleeing members were arrested and the 373 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:13,240 bill eventually passed, this was called the Rump Senate incident, 374 00:25:14,319 --> 00:25:19,000 and it established quorum breaking as a minority party tactic 375 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:24,640 that has persisted in Texas politics ever since. Right, So 376 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:30,160 that was when this all started, eighteen seventy. More recently, 377 00:25:31,839 --> 00:25:35,160 I think all of the other three examples prior to today's, 378 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,680 they were all since nineteen seventy nine. That was the 379 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:44,319 next one nineteen seventy nine, then again in two thousand 380 00:25:44,319 --> 00:25:48,240 and three, then again in twenty twenty one, and now 381 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,279 twenty twenty five. And Democrats just cannot seem to keep 382 00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:55,759 their butts in the seats. You know, Stories are powerful. 383 00:25:55,799 --> 00:25:58,920 They help us make sense of things, to understand experiences. 384 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,920 Stories connected to the people of our past while transcending generations. 385 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,359 They help us process the meaning of life and our 386 00:26:05,519 --> 00:26:09,640 stories are told through images and videos. 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He says 402 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,200 the left is lashing out because they have already squeezed 403 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,799 as many seats out of blue states as they can 404 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,680 they're so terrified of an even playing field that greasy 405 00:27:10,759 --> 00:27:13,880 Gavin Newsom is saying the quiet part out loud and 406 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:19,119 admitting California's quote Independent Commission is a sham. Well, if 407 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,200 you listened to my program over the years, going back 408 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:28,920 to two thousand and ten, I believe it was. I 409 00:27:29,039 --> 00:27:35,559 was talking about how the Independent Commission was completely and utterly, 410 00:27:35,799 --> 00:27:43,839 irreparably corrupted by Democrats and left wing activists. It's never recovered. 411 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:50,440 Republicans were completely unprepared for that census overhaul and the 412 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:56,920 redistricting that occurred, completely unprepared, did not ever contemplate what 413 00:27:57,079 --> 00:28:02,000 Democrats rolled out on them in order to rig the Commission. 414 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,480 It's I mean, I could go just from memory, I 415 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,519 could go into some of the details, but at a 416 00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:13,519 high level, they set up these parameters, these rules for 417 00:28:13,559 --> 00:28:16,559 their Independent Commission, and was like, you can't have anybody 418 00:28:16,559 --> 00:28:19,559 that has any experience running an election, running for an election, 419 00:28:20,279 --> 00:28:22,839 being part of any election or campaign or anything like. 420 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,480 They like, you had to have no experience at all. 421 00:28:25,519 --> 00:28:29,039 In other words, we need somebody we can roll, right, 422 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,079 So they get all these people onto the Commission that 423 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,480 have no idea what they're doing, no idea what they're 424 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:38,400 looking at, and no idea about the political nature of 425 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,759 the process. It is inherently political. And then there was 426 00:28:41,799 --> 00:28:44,799 one of the rules that they exploited the most, which 427 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,759 was communities of similar interest. So when you're drawing the 428 00:28:49,799 --> 00:28:52,880 district lines, if you have a community with a similar interest, 429 00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:56,519 then you could put it together with another. And so 430 00:28:56,559 --> 00:28:59,359 what the left did was they targeted all of these 431 00:28:59,359 --> 00:29:04,400 different priests and districts and communities and stuff, and they 432 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:09,319 just made up literally made up fake organizations to represent 433 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:14,039 like we're the you know, beachside community and whatever, and 434 00:29:14,079 --> 00:29:17,559 they made fake websites and stuff, submitted that as proof, 435 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,319 and then it got included in the precincts and into 436 00:29:21,319 --> 00:29:25,079 the districts where the left needed them to be so 437 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,000 they could maintain as many seats as possible. It's why 438 00:29:28,079 --> 00:29:32,880 Republicans got wiped out. They never contemplated the links that 439 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,400 the Democrats would go to to rig all of those 440 00:29:36,759 --> 00:29:40,720 districts or as many as they could. So that was 441 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,680 the California sham. And don't take my word for it, 442 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,079 go read the pro public apiece. They were the ones 443 00:29:46,119 --> 00:29:47,680 that did all the research on it. They busted it 444 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,599 wide open and that was fifteen years ago. Anyway, back 445 00:29:52,599 --> 00:29:57,400 to the Texas Deal, there were quorum breaks in nineteen 446 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,240 seventy nine, two thousand and three, and twenty twenty one 447 00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:05,519 where Democrats fled. Political scientists say, barring exceptional endurance on 448 00:30:05,559 --> 00:30:08,480 the part of the Democratic delegation, it's likely to be 449 00:30:08,519 --> 00:30:12,480 symbolic rather than directly effective in preventing redistricting, which is 450 00:30:12,559 --> 00:30:15,880 very on brand by the way, for Democrats. Largely symbolic 451 00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:22,119 rather than directly effective. Anyway, it's a messaging move, said 452 00:30:22,119 --> 00:30:28,480 Brandon Roddinghouse, a political science professor at the University of Houston. Quote, 453 00:30:28,519 --> 00:30:31,000 it's a last resort for Democrats who have run out 454 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:36,400 of options legislatively and even legally, right so, to Eric's 455 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,319 point in the tweet, they're desperate. There's nothing else left 456 00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:43,680 to do. So here's the thing, though, it requires the 457 00:30:43,839 --> 00:30:47,039 entire delegation to stay out of the state until at 458 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:52,400 least November. They can't come back until November at the earliest. 459 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,279 And it's like all of them because they've lost so 460 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,519 many seats in recent years, they don't have enough seats 461 00:30:59,519 --> 00:31:03,839 that if any come back, that's a quorum and they 462 00:31:04,079 --> 00:31:07,960 would have to come back in November because that's when 463 00:31:08,039 --> 00:31:12,599 candidate filing opens for the mid term elections, so they 464 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,000 got to come back to file for reelection. The challenge 465 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,680 for Democrats is that Governor Greg Abbott can call an 466 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,559 unlimited number of special sessions, each of these lasting up 467 00:31:24,599 --> 00:31:26,759 to thirty days a piece, and he just keeps doing 468 00:31:26,839 --> 00:31:28,359 him back to back to back to back until you 469 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,559 guys eventually come home. If Democrats break quorum during the 470 00:31:31,559 --> 00:31:34,799 current special session, which runs through late August, Abbott could 471 00:31:34,839 --> 00:31:37,960 immediately call for another session the next day and continue 472 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,720 doing so indefinitely. Even if Democrats manage to stay out 473 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,480 of the state until the November filing deadline, it could 474 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,799 be possible for Republicans to simply hold a second round 475 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,920 of primaries for the twenty twenty six mid terms. That 476 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,640 according to John Taylor, a poly scide professor at the 477 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:59,279 University of Texas, San Antonio, the difficulty of living out 478 00:31:59,359 --> 00:32:04,240 of state, away from legislators' families and their day jobs, 479 00:32:04,559 --> 00:32:07,920 makes it difficult for an entire delegation to break quorum 480 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,720 for longer than two special sessions. I mean, think about it, 481 00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:12,960 You're going to miss all your high school football games. 482 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,519 You got kids doing athletic stuff or after school activities. Right. Also, 483 00:32:18,039 --> 00:32:20,960 Texas is a part time legislature. It's even more part 484 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,680 time than hours, so this is not the primary gig 485 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,200 for these lawmakers. They have to come back to work. 486 00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:32,279 There's also the physical difficulty of housing so many people 487 00:32:32,319 --> 00:32:36,240 out of state. When they last did this in twenty 488 00:32:36,279 --> 00:32:40,000 twenty one, Democrats were only able to stay out of 489 00:32:40,039 --> 00:32:43,880 state for six weeks. So what's this about. It's a 490 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:48,519 pr stunt, it's theater kids acting out right. It will 491 00:32:48,599 --> 00:32:54,279 generate national media attention, but this coverage will fade and quickly. 492 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,680 House rules adopted in twenty twenty three impose a five 493 00:32:59,759 --> 00:33:02,240 hundre undred dollars a day fine on lawmakers who leave 494 00:33:02,279 --> 00:33:07,039 the state and indicate that campaign funds cannot be used 495 00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:10,400 to pay for those penalties. However, there are some workarounds 496 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,720 or some loopholes there, Like somebody could pay them a 497 00:33:12,759 --> 00:33:14,240 bunch of money and say it's you know you're a 498 00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:16,240 consult I'm going to hire you as a consultant for 499 00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:18,559 some bs reason. Give you the money that way, and 500 00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:21,200 then you can pay the fine. The legislators are all 501 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,440 so likely to challenge the fines in court. Poly scientists 502 00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:28,599 say there is no direct way for Republicans to compel 503 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,440 the return of legislators who have left the state. If 504 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,119 they were still in Texas, it would be different. Then 505 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,000 they could go get them, but right now they can't. 506 00:33:37,839 --> 00:33:41,319 The challenge of tracking down missing legislators was vividly illustrated 507 00:33:41,359 --> 00:33:44,279 during the nineteen seventy nine Killer Bees episode, when a 508 00:33:44,319 --> 00:33:48,319 dozen Democrats state senators hid out in Austin to block 509 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,680 changes to the primary election date. Then Lieutenant Governor William 510 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,559 Hobby Junior sent Texas rangers and state troopers to hunt 511 00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:57,839 them down, leading to a week's long game of hide 512 00:33:58,079 --> 00:34:01,279 and seek, and they got busted because some guy walked 513 00:34:01,319 --> 00:34:04,039 out of the place they were staying to throw out 514 00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:07,000 the trash and a reporter saw on that's how that ended. 515 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,119 All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you 516 00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:13,199 so much for listening. I could not do the show 517 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,719 without your support and the support of the businesses that 518 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,920 advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support 519 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,599 them too and tell them you heard it here. 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