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Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 4: Oh man, spin out a spin a very sauce and weet.
Speaker 4: We've uh it's been four fourth summer here, it's been
Speaker 4: mid nineties and all the humidity you can stand them
Speaker 4: for a week and I'm very much exhausted.
Speaker 2: M So humidity was present in the Carolinas this week.
Speaker 5: Also, Eh, yeah, I was getting up there quite six
Speaker 5: getting out in the yard at six thirty and trying
Speaker 5: to finish by moon because Latine is just too unbearable
Speaker 5: to be out there trying to get anything done.
Speaker 4: You're just sweating from head to tear, and it's it's miserable.
Speaker 4: And they're calling sunny no Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. They're predicting
Speaker 4: a hundred, so it could be harm to hundred three.
Speaker 2: You're kidding me.
Speaker 4: I'm serious, oh man.
Speaker 2: All right, I am not looking forward to that.
Speaker 4: We have we have gone straight into summer time to
Speaker 4: days the longest day of the year, so star sever
Speaker 4: and we're already hitting one hundred within two days.
Speaker 2: So well, yeah, in the South, it's already summertime anyhow.
Speaker 2: Because look, people in other parts of the country don't
Speaker 2: necessarily know this, but I mean, the schools let out
Speaker 2: in May. Okay, they start in August and let out
Speaker 2: in May. I don't know what that slide of a
Speaker 2: month does. But you know, in the rest of the
Speaker 2: country they end in June and they start in September.
Speaker 2: School starts in September, you know everywhere, but not in
Speaker 2: the South anyway. I don't know why, but that's the
Speaker 2: way it is, and it is exceptionally humid in this
Speaker 2: little corner of the country because the line doesn't go
Speaker 2: completely across the temperate zone, doesn't go completely across the
Speaker 2: uh you know, the latitude of no line. So Florida, Georgia, Alabama,
Speaker 2: like the that lower corner of and I'm not sure
Speaker 2: if North Carolina. I think North Carolina is just out
Speaker 2: of the reach of the like tropical or subtropical area
Speaker 2: there that that temperate zone, right, It's just just on
Speaker 2: the other side of the barrier, I think, isn't it.
Speaker 4: I were most of southern North Carolina is still getting
Speaker 4: that tropical effect or in the sola.
Speaker 2: But technically is it in that temperate zone or not,
Speaker 2: because they do have temperate zones they show you. I mean,
Speaker 2: I know, nobody bothers to you know, account for the
Speaker 2: shift in the polar h Well, the way it.
Speaker 4: Works to the south, You've got it starting what just
Speaker 4: west of Dallas, suits of cost of Louisiana, bottom part
Speaker 4: of Arkansas, through Alabama, Mississippi, or right on up through Georgia,
Speaker 4: South Carolina and southern part of North Carolina.
Speaker 2: Right and then Florida is completely swallowed by it. And
Speaker 2: that's the thing. Yeah, Okay, all right, No, I just
Speaker 2: couldn't remember. I remember that I'm in a different temperate zone,
Speaker 2: but I just couldn't remember if you joined me or
Speaker 2: you were just on the other side. And I think
Speaker 2: you're just on the other side of it, which means
Speaker 2: it's you know, relatively close. But the thing is, it's
Speaker 2: a big difference from here to a real true four
Speaker 2: seasons part of the country. And you know, if you're
Speaker 2: in California, you get everything in fact, except tropical. There's
Speaker 2: not actually a tropical section of California, but there's a
Speaker 2: pretty damn hot section towards the southern part, and even
Speaker 2: that Baha area, which you know is Mexico California depending
Speaker 2: on who you talk to, right, So, I mean it
Speaker 2: just is it's down south all the way, but also
Speaker 2: up north pretty far too, California, just the way it's
Speaker 2: shaped the state anyway, and they contain every kind of
Speaker 2: you know, every kind of what do you call that
Speaker 2: landscape possible? Right, you got a desert, you got the ocean,
Speaker 2: You've got you know, forests, you've got everything everything in California.
Speaker 2: But outside of that one weird state, most people are
Speaker 2: locked into their seasonal considerations and not in the south.
Speaker 2: Like you know, the idea that if I told you that,
Speaker 2: you know, there's almost never any snow, it would be
Speaker 2: a freakish idea to a lot of parts of the country.
Speaker 2: But the idea that it's one hundred degrees still sucks here.
Speaker 2: Although I got to tell you I heard in Arizona
Speaker 2: over this last week or so that they were like
Speaker 2: at a buck fifteen in certain parts of Arizona.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's sure humidity level is what PC.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no humidity exactly. I used to hear old people
Speaker 2: say that, you know, like in Jersey, Well, at least
Speaker 2: the humidity is not bad. It's just dry.
Speaker 4: If you think about it, you've got all of the
Speaker 4: uh what all of the airplane gray garde aro out
Speaker 4: in the West because it's so dry. If you park
Speaker 4: those things here with the humidity rouf out that not
Speaker 4: only would start rusting, but they would accelerate and fall pieces. Oh,
Speaker 4: park something out there, it's so dry, it'll last forever.
Speaker 2: It used to crack me up. People coming from like,
Speaker 2: you know, the middle of the country and they would
Speaker 2: go and live in Jersey and then freak out because
Speaker 2: they brought their you know, their boats that they thought,
Speaker 2: you know, oh look, I have a boat and I
Speaker 2: have it on my little river in Missouri or whatever,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to bring it with me to Jersey
Speaker 2: because we're moving there. They moved to and their boat
Speaker 2: falls apart inside of like eighteen months, and they go,
Speaker 2: why what happened? I don't understand. Why does Jersey rot stuff?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, you're near the ocean, salt water, it's different.
Speaker 2: You know, you got to paint everything differently here than
Speaker 2: what you would in Missouri. Okay, it doesn't work the
Speaker 2: same way. This is not you know, this isn't even
Speaker 2: one of the Dakota's pal This is not the same
Speaker 2: area you live in. And I understand that there's that
Speaker 2: kind of intensity. You got to deal with that in
Speaker 2: Florida and stuff. And I mean, we see differences in
Speaker 2: the way people build their houses and everything. I mean,
Speaker 2: I told you, I'm amazed at how flimsy house construction
Speaker 2: is in the South. Like there are buildings that are
Speaker 2: you know, venerable decent structures allegedly here that like I
Speaker 2: would get run out of a town if I tried
Speaker 2: to build one of those in Jersey. They'd freak out
Speaker 2: because they'd fall down after a little while because stuff
Speaker 2: would rot, the nails are probably would turn the liquid
Speaker 2: in Jersey, you know what I mean. It's weird. But anyway,
Speaker 2: I didn't want to get into a discussion about this.
Speaker 2: I was wondering what else was on your mind. But
Speaker 2: since you started with the weather, what the hell? It
Speaker 2: is hot in some parts of the world just this week, you.
Speaker 4: Know, starting somewhere out like this kind of sucks because
Speaker 4: we've still got the worst parts of the summer late
Speaker 4: August and September to goo through, and that's when it
Speaker 4: really gets unvailable.
Speaker 2: Well, August is brutality. August is exactly when all your
Speaker 2: air conditioners and stuff break here in the South. I noticed, right,
Speaker 2: is it? Is it not true that every time you
Speaker 2: lose an air conditioner in the South, it's pretty much
Speaker 2: if it breaks down, it's like August, right, Yeah, mind.
Speaker 4: Folke down what two summers ago on the hottest day
Speaker 4: of the year.
Speaker 2: In August, right, Yeah, of course.
Speaker 4: It went out and luckily but they're able to get
Speaker 4: take the very next morning. So it was one night
Speaker 4: with a fan on. Honestly, but you know, and it's
Speaker 4: one hundred percent you do it's a fan that didn't
Speaker 4: even do anything. Yeah, I mean, I almost want to
Speaker 4: all outside your freezer.
Speaker 2: Like people here can't imagine that a homeless person could
Speaker 2: freeze to death, Like they have no concept to that, Like,
Speaker 2: how can a homeless person freeze to dead? Trust me,
Speaker 2: it happens up in the Northeast all the time. People
Speaker 2: end up rock solid because out there exposed if you're
Speaker 2: in zero degrees you know, obviously fahrenheit, but still zero
Speaker 2: degrees fahrenheit sucks on a human body. You can't really
Speaker 2: do well with that. You got to find a heat
Speaker 2: source otherwise you might die. If you have any weakness whatsoever,
Speaker 2: you're gonna end up like, you know, a side of beef.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just what happens. This is why homeless
Speaker 2: guys used to sleep on the subway grates in New
Speaker 2: York because hot air would come up, and some of
Speaker 2: them would end up in the hospital because you'd end
Speaker 2: up getting burned because of the bursts of hot. Air
Speaker 2: would sometimes be too hot and they would literally get
Speaker 2: burned laying on the grates trying to stay warm in
Speaker 2: the middle of the night when it's coldest. But nobody
Speaker 2: can even imagine that here in the South and in California,
Speaker 2: you know, the homeless problem is bad. Yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 2: living on the street in California, at least the weather
Speaker 2: isn't going to kill you. I don't know. Here though,
Speaker 2: you can actually cook the death, so I don't know.
Speaker 2: You know, it was six and one half dozen in
Speaker 2: the other right, anyway, anything else on your mind besides
Speaker 2: the weather. I see Jimmy James as called in and
Speaker 2: I'm hoping some other people do it. Three one nine
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Speaker 2: I should have shot you a message, but I forgot
Speaker 2: and did my pre show. Sorry.
Speaker 4: I was just the seven slipping at a few items here.
Speaker 4: One that apparently the last living survivor of World War
Speaker 4: One passed away and they don't have an age for him,
Speaker 4: but he is lying in state in the UH Cathedral
Speaker 4: part of the Arlington Cemetery. I wouldn't think we've every
Speaker 4: World War One survivors left until this was the last war.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say that myself. I didn't know
Speaker 2: that it was a thing even if possible do.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to stay back and get the nice guy's
Speaker 4: name was Buckles. I can't find the bird story now
Speaker 4: I had just a second ago and we stay back.
Speaker 2: That's pretty extreme because you're talking about, you know, when
Speaker 2: did World War end? Nineteen nineteen, so I mean you're
Speaker 2: talking about one hundred and six years ago. How old
Speaker 2: was the guy during World War one? Five?
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 2: Or how old? I mean, was he one of the
Speaker 2: oldest human beings on earth already? I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's pretty old.
Speaker 4: So all X is not cooperating, so let me do it.
Speaker 2: N okay, So it's not just okay, it's not just
Speaker 2: me because I had trouble with X trying to just
Speaker 2: go on it all right. Anyway, Another thing I was
Speaker 2: going to run by you while you're doing your search
Speaker 2: is I was wondering if your man, you know, because
Speaker 2: your girl's getting dissed a bit, you know, in the
Speaker 2: Trump administration right now, and because you know, Tulsi pretty
Speaker 2: much got told, hey, look, you can give me my
Speaker 2: opinion when I tell you to give me my opinion,
Speaker 2: because she said in public, you know, Iran's not ready
Speaker 2: to have a nuke and Trump has now blatantly said, yeah,
Speaker 2: she's wrong, she's my health.
Speaker 4: Those problem, well, that's one of the problems with our
Speaker 4: national security rapparatus is their food and everybody. I've heard
Speaker 4: several people, several talk so hosts and things like that,
Speaker 4: and make that declaritory statement that Iran is not ready
Speaker 4: for a loop and I'm sitting there thinking they've already
Speaker 4: gotten it. What the all you're talking about?
Speaker 2: Well, Iran, I don't know if they have actual weapons yet. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I've never seen them. Okay, I'm just
Speaker 2: saying objectively, I don't know that of the proof. But
Speaker 2: here's the thing. If you have a head of national security,
Speaker 2: you would assume that she has access to the best
Speaker 2: intelligence reports, all the satellites, and Joey has.
Speaker 4: What they give them, Jarry has what they give her.
Speaker 4: To relying on all these agencies to pass in all
Speaker 4: this sformation is the bullshit tab the completely clue hoss.
Speaker 2: But if you're the DNI, don't you have the option
Speaker 2: to utilize some of these things like look at satellite
Speaker 2: damn self. You know, put your own people in there
Speaker 2: that you do trust to know and say, look, you're
Speaker 2: my team and you guys go collect the proper information
Speaker 2: for me.
Speaker 4: I mean, no, no, no, you gotta realize you still
Speaker 4: write a bunch of old school asshots in all these
Speaker 4: agencies that haven't been cleaned out yet, and that's what
Speaker 4: she's having to rely on. I mean, I don't worry
Speaker 4: that Trump says there and says he's wrong, because I
Speaker 4: don't agree with her saying that. I think I think
Speaker 4: Iran's happy better be to put a moose in the weather.
Speaker 4: It's just a matter of where and where they're going
Speaker 4: to do it.
Speaker 2: Okay, But here's the thing about that, just counter question,
Speaker 2: and it is an objective question. How does Trump know
Speaker 2: he's getting the right information? Exactly considering the same problem.
Speaker 4: They didn't pulling this crop on Trump since you've still
Speaker 4: got h never Trumper's in the government and they're gonna
Speaker 4: do what they can just to play a band uh
Speaker 4: point in the in the in the Yorks. Here ago
Speaker 4: last known the last living veteran of warped now, So.
Speaker 2: You don't think for a moment, you don't think for
Speaker 2: a moment it could be his ego overriding anything else
Speaker 2: he's being told, because I mean, that's a possibility with
Speaker 2: this guy as well. He thinks he knows best.
Speaker 4: Oh, if that's with everything, all right? Tin Tulsi came
Speaker 4: out and gave based on the information given to her
Speaker 4: by the's aass hats that. Oh well, I don't think
Speaker 4: I ran ready for a nucular bomb. That's bullshit. They've
Speaker 4: got the material, They've got the physical material, they've got
Speaker 4: the payloads. It's a matter of putting it all together
Speaker 4: and being able to get away with launching. I think
Speaker 4: they've got everything that they need this. You know, how
Speaker 4: did they go from oh, they'll tell you as a
Speaker 4: away from a bomb to having physical material at sixty
Speaker 4: percent just in the past year.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Third we're working all this stuff the whole time.
Speaker 2: So third option, the nuance is missed here between the two.
Speaker 2: Is Iran ready to launch a nuke right now? No?
Speaker 2: But how close are they to it?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: It's this third option. I'm positive this as a possibility.
Speaker 2: So third option, Are they ready to launch one today?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: But could they be ready in short amount of time
Speaker 2: if they wanted to? Because they have been gradually walking
Speaker 2: toward it? And is that a nuance in a difference?
Speaker 2: How long might that take for them to get it? Done.
Speaker 2: Maybe she thinks it's a year or two away based
Speaker 2: on the information she has, and maybe that nuance is
Speaker 2: the thing that Trump misses. He's being told Nope, they
Speaker 2: can quickly do it, and to him, quickly is tomorrow,
Speaker 2: you know, And he's saying, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So it could be a miscommunication of nuance.
Speaker 6: And couldn't you know, we'll Trump you'll ever know because
Speaker 6: you know that it's at any given time, his ego
Speaker 6: could be telling him what to say and nothing else matters.
Speaker 4: So yeah, you know the fact that he says that
Speaker 4: Tulfy's wrong, Yeah, I agree with him. She's all on this.
Speaker 2: But I did find it. I did find it hilarious
Speaker 2: though that Ted Cruz, you know, knows nothing about Iran
Speaker 2: but that he wants to vomit. That's all he knows.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know a lot about it, but I
Speaker 4: wouldn't mind taking him out. We should have been a
Speaker 4: bucket buster two weeks ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, though, you're you're, you're you're not
Speaker 2: in the Congress. You figure these guys who are making
Speaker 2: decisions might want to be read into the situation. I
Speaker 2: just thought it was funny the Tucker Carlson of all people,
Speaker 2: who is usually poorly informed, actually nailed Ted Cruz like
Speaker 2: at every turn, like you do you know the population?
Speaker 2: Do you know where things are? Do you know anything
Speaker 2: about herund at all? And Cruise looked at him like you,
Speaker 2: I don't believe you just did this, you son of her.
Speaker 2: I don't believe you're doing this to me. It's like
Speaker 2: you're supposed to.
Speaker 4: Well, Tuffer's not working for Fox, said and more so,
Speaker 4: you know, he's got to blaze his own trail. I'm
Speaker 4: kind of well, I'm not surprised. I'm at his sign
Speaker 4: coming off his star, both of them and came to
Speaker 4: southerns I mean, they've just they created a little bitch
Speaker 4: for themselves over them this little corner of the world,
Speaker 4: and let them.
Speaker 3: Have at it.
Speaker 4: As far as I'm concerned, are both for us ship?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well look, and I'll tell you this, it's a
Speaker 2: better look than that pathetic move that o'reiley's pulling. He's
Speaker 2: he's really trying very very hard to make himself and
Speaker 2: ready for this meat head Cuomo over there, Chris into
Speaker 2: the New Hannity and Combs. Except when they do live performances,
Speaker 2: he grabs Stephen A. Smith and brings him along for
Speaker 2: you know, sports and the cover racism as well.
Speaker 4: So I don't understand how dell O'Reilly got back in
Speaker 4: the good graces of everybody. I mean, when he got Fox,
Speaker 4: it was over some pretty savy crap. Yeah, but he's
Speaker 4: in suddenly, but he's not. He's everybody's best friend, but he's.
Speaker 2: Not back in the good great Look what they did
Speaker 2: is give him his corner and say here you go.
Speaker 2: Somebody funded all that, and now he's got a podcast
Speaker 2: and he exists, and they put him onto the Christian
Speaker 2: News Network, which is you know, primarily what News Nation is.
Speaker 3: Uh. Yeah.
Speaker 4: But for the past three years he's been featured on
Speaker 4: Glenn Black, he's been Yeah, he's on Trail and Bark, Yeah,
Speaker 4: all the conservative shows. I mean years he's been. He's
Speaker 4: been making a lot of appearances for people, and he's
Speaker 4: still putting out his crappy books.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And I just don't see how litt O'Reilly is even
Speaker 4: relevant anymore.
Speaker 2: Because that's one of those Look, we don't really want
Speaker 2: to get rid of you, but we're going to get ready,
Speaker 2: so we're going to give you a nice plumb So
Speaker 2: you have, you know, a way to make a living,
Speaker 2: and you've still got you know, your corner of the universe.
Speaker 2: And don't worry, you'll still be supported by all the
Speaker 2: conservative media. And now set your own schedule work from home.
Speaker 4: All right? Update on the World War one day. Come
Speaker 4: to find out whatever was on X is bullshit because
Speaker 4: this guy died back in twenty eleven. He was one
Speaker 4: hundred and eight years old.
Speaker 2: Jeez, That's what I was saying, is how old could
Speaker 2: this guy be? One hundred and twenty? I mean, what
Speaker 2: is he? Ten years old? In World War One?
Speaker 4: He died February twenty seven, twenty eleven.
Speaker 2: Even so, even so, it's amazing, well even so, it's true.
Speaker 2: But still he's not alive in twenty twenty five. If
Speaker 2: he is, I'm afraid you know.
Speaker 4: So he was discharged in nineteen nineteen, but it took
Speaker 4: him a year to get home from Europe.
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, But that means he's born in like
Speaker 2: nineteen hundred, you know what I'm saying right about there.
Speaker 4: So let's see how old he was when he signed up.
Speaker 4: He was born in nineteen oh.
Speaker 2: One, nineteen oh one, Sorry, my mistake.
Speaker 4: He attempted to the list in the war. Just few
Speaker 4: months after the United States to Cobda in Germany. He
Speaker 4: was rejected by the Marine corn the Navy for physical issues. Well,
Speaker 4: of course the Army would take him, take anybody.
Speaker 2: Weird because at the time of the Vietnam War, I
Speaker 2: was told it was the Air Force was to take
Speaker 2: anybody group.
Speaker 4: But well that's well, yeah, the Air Force. We'll see,
Speaker 4: that's the Air Force. Kind of garner the rich taste
Speaker 4: about gun at the Vietnam War. They were, in fact
Speaker 4: in the Army. If you got call with your hands
Speaker 4: in your pockets, the keys, they have it on your
Speaker 4: Air Force gloves.
Speaker 2: Nice you got dropped for that one.
Speaker 4: Yes, he Let's see, he was sixteen years old. He
Speaker 4: led about his age, went to the army, and I
Speaker 4: filt in England and France, and then driving room to
Speaker 4: the Allied troops and the Amblances, and ten years end
Speaker 4: in nineteen eighteen.
Speaker 2: There you go. My father lied about his age, tried
Speaker 2: to enlist early too, and.
Speaker 4: My dad too.
Speaker 2: I don't know what. I don't know anyway, we'll leave
Speaker 2: that at that. I got callers, So you ready to
Speaker 2: get to them or is there anything else you want
Speaker 2: to hit before we go to the callers, I spent.
Speaker 4: Another week of people, you know, screwed around and find
Speaker 4: them out. It seems like it's been a two weak,
Speaker 4: steady thing here, people just stepping on their own dick
Speaker 4: rep and right.
Speaker 2: I do find it miraculous that Putin is out there
Speaker 2: talking about how were we might be slipping toward World
Speaker 2: War three here Israel and Iran, and I wonder if
Speaker 2: he thinks that he might be a factor in that
Speaker 2: or no at all, or you know not allo.
Speaker 4: I've read so things were put kind of left. I
Speaker 4: ran out to hanging say, Rek, if you need to
Speaker 4: get the hell out of Dodge, you can come to Moscow.
Speaker 4: But other than that, when I get involved.
Speaker 2: Well he's let yeah, he's definitely let them hang out
Speaker 2: there to dry, because they have all kinds of agreements
Speaker 2: with them, and you know, they're not tight, like like
Speaker 2: the NATO agreement. You know, if one has attacked, aller attack,
Speaker 2: but still they have a mutual defense packed and Iran
Speaker 2: gave him drones and stuff like that just recently for
Speaker 2: the Ukraine war.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's been going on. That's something's gonna going
Speaker 4: on hot and heavy between Sin and Russia and yeah,
Speaker 4: situation and they're all that. I think China's putting them
Speaker 4: out Iran and is putting some of their soft work
Speaker 4: on it and uh yeah, just shipping them back and forth.
Speaker 2: But that but that's part of that access of resistance,
Speaker 2: U coalition or whatever. And yet, you know, you'd think
Speaker 2: Russia needs to step up, unless it is really true
Speaker 2: that he's way too busy and way too bogged down
Speaker 2: in Ukraine, which would be a bad look for him
Speaker 2: and he wouldn't want to admit it. But anyway, I
Speaker 2: don't know. It is what it is. Let's get to
Speaker 2: the callers and see if they got something else to
Speaker 2: bring to the table or if they want to tail
Speaker 2: on any of this madness that is. And we'll start
Speaker 2: with Jimmy James. So, Jimmy, what's on your mind this week?
Speaker 4: What's that frood?
Speaker 7: Okay?
Speaker 1: There?
Speaker 8: Well, just to put some little contexts.
Speaker 1: What's her face, Scabby?
Speaker 7: What's her name?
Speaker 4: Tulsey Gabbart?
Speaker 2: Tulsy Gabbard? You mean, yeah, okay, I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 2: know who you meant by Gabby. I was gonna say
Speaker 2: I thought I had a couple of thoughts on Gabin
Speaker 2: but okay, Tulsy Gabbard.
Speaker 1: Huh, those quotes were from March, and yeah, no one
Speaker 1: in America knew what I progress Iran.
Speaker 7: Had made, but Israel did because they had some people
Speaker 7: in place.
Speaker 3: And I have the video you can look on.
Speaker 7: Just look at your Google machine. They have the missile
Speaker 7: hitting literally the missile that they were screwing on a
Speaker 7: nuclear ward that videos out there. So yes, they.
Speaker 4: Were literally.
Speaker 3: There was Israel had.
Speaker 7: No choice but to a attack Charls. They would have
Speaker 7: had a new no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: Okay, And I need that.
Speaker 3: I knew that.
Speaker 7: Search of Bucklestag twenty eleven. You must have seen like
Speaker 7: this day in history thing.
Speaker 4: It was a post on X And I've come across
Speaker 4: several of them in the past week where they I mean,
Speaker 4: you look at when it was posted to go and
Speaker 4: look at the information they've got, and they make it
Speaker 4: sound like it's something new. Come to find out it's
Speaker 4: six seven years old, this space fourteen years old.
Speaker 2: Right, And speaking of things that are outdated or old
Speaker 2: or whatever. Just to clarify, here's the thing about Gabbard though, Yeah,
Speaker 2: she made those original statements in March, but then she
Speaker 2: made statements on June in June this year, just days
Speaker 2: ago on X about Iran not having a new get
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 9: So I don't understand why she would make a comment
Speaker 9: like that when common knowledge is there, you know, like
Speaker 9: Jenny said, the system matter of going down and breaking
Speaker 9: out the warhead and screaming on the missile when they've
Speaker 9: had this, they've had it for some time.
Speaker 2: Again, I'm not claiming I have knowledge on it. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying this is, you know, this is when she
Speaker 2: made these statements. And I'm thinking, if she's the head
Speaker 2: of national Intelligence, she should have access to the best information.
Speaker 2: But if not, hey, then not What can I tell you.
Speaker 4: But if the mercy of the people giving you the information,
Speaker 4: and Sue is probably disliked more than Trump, do you.
Speaker 2: Think she's disliked more than Trump? Wow?
Speaker 4: Yeah? One, she's a woman, Okay. And you're looking at
Speaker 4: all these asshats that have had these I mean, look
Speaker 4: at the type of people we've had in these positions
Speaker 4: Brennan Clopper Ray, all of these asshots over the years.
Speaker 4: I mean, you've still got people like that heading up
Speaker 4: these different agencies. They're not going to HATERR to have
Speaker 4: the answer to their woman. Let an old woman that
Speaker 4: a year ago was a Democrat.
Speaker 2: Ray's weird because Ray was Crumps guy originally. But Jimmy,
Speaker 2: what what says you about that?
Speaker 7: Well? Uh, Trump has already sent numerous times that he
Speaker 7: scrows her out of these discussions due to her beliefs.
Speaker 7: She isn't allowed to look at that intelligence or participate
Speaker 7: in it because they simply disagree on this issue and
Speaker 7: she has unusual ties to the country of Gutter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he just got a plane from Gutter, didn't.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I'm just saying, just throwing it down.
Speaker 3: Now, let's crack this.
Speaker 7: That was a gift to the people, to the government
Speaker 7: of the United States. It wasn't a gift to Trump personally.
Speaker 2: Not only he's going to be able to take with
Speaker 2: him to his presidential library when he leaves office. But okay,
Speaker 2: as you wish. So that's where Gabbard's AT's So she's
Speaker 2: left out of the discussion when it comes to Iran
Speaker 2: and her unusual ties to the Middle East. So the
Speaker 2: Director of National Intelligence is all good if we're dealing
Speaker 2: with something other than the Middle East. According to Trump,
Speaker 2: is that is that the way we're supposed to interpret that.
Speaker 3: I'll let Trump, you tell me, he'll take her.
Speaker 7: He'll take her opinions, just like you will the rest
Speaker 7: of his cabinet. That at the end of the day,
Speaker 7: to quote George Bush, he's the decider.
Speaker 2: He's the decider. Okay, fair enough, Oh boy, anyway, Jimmy,
Speaker 2: anything else you want to add in here?
Speaker 7: Yeah, So I want to complain about this dog I found.
Speaker 2: Uh, oh, what's wrong with the dog? I thought, wait
Speaker 2: a minute, didn't you have a brindle dog and all
Speaker 2: that and a cat? What what do you mean that's
Speaker 2: the matter?
Speaker 3: Wow, I found a dog.
Speaker 2: You found another dog.
Speaker 3: There's a tretial rain.
Speaker 1: My dog kept barking at something like an hour.
Speaker 3: And then finally, when the ring died down, I looked
Speaker 3: out and there's this crazy white people out there.
Speaker 7: To Harness, just staring in as like okay, So I
Speaker 7: went out. She was a little timid. I went and
Speaker 7: got some dog biscuits, and then she came to me,
Speaker 7: and then oh, she looked like less than six months old,
Speaker 7: wearing a pink and purple Harness vest. Feel and I
Speaker 7: went to the three most likely places. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 7: the old people that she belongs to didn't answer their door,
Speaker 7: even though they got ten damn cars in the driveway.
Speaker 2: Okay, then I went to the bars, and then.
Speaker 3: I went to the store.
Speaker 7: Well anyways, finally she had to go to doggy jail.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you really tried.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: It's funny because we had a mama dog here across
Speaker 2: the street in my neighborhood, and her name was Oreo,
Speaker 2: and the people that owned her never let her inside
Speaker 2: and never put her on a leash or nothing. They
Speaker 2: just let her roam in the front yard. She had
Speaker 2: two puppies somehow, only two, and then she got hit
Speaker 2: by a car. So now those two puppies are wandering
Speaker 2: around and those people moved away. These two pupps are
Speaker 2: just like hanging out and getting involved in other little
Speaker 2: doggie groups all throughout the neighborhood, except my little doggy
Speaker 2: group because mine are too small for that. She was
Speaker 2: a bigger dog. But now there's a one black and
Speaker 2: one white dog from this black and white dog named
Speaker 2: Oreo that is now dead because she got hit by
Speaker 2: a car. Mama doggie died, the puppies lived, and here
Speaker 2: we go. Now they are the wandering dogs of the neighborhood.
Speaker 2: I hate that I won't send them. I won't send
Speaker 2: them to the poet, but.
Speaker 1: I don't Dori some actives because it's not a kill
Speaker 1: show the thing.
Speaker 7: And I'm pretty sure the dummies that our neglect pull
Speaker 7: will pick her up really okay, And yeah yeah and
Speaker 7: she I mean I said sit.
Speaker 3: She would sit. She obviously she was a good dog.
Speaker 2: I just I'm not I'm not the pound, I got you, no,
Speaker 2: And look she was so she was partially domesticated. That's
Speaker 2: all cool and everything, Jimmy and I. I really appreciate that,
Speaker 2: and I'm glad that you are, you know, that kind
Speaker 2: of guy. But uh, but too many people aren't. And
Speaker 2: I hate people that leave their dogs out there. I
Speaker 2: would not have faith in anybody picking up a dog
Speaker 2: from a shelter, kill shelter or not, uh anywhere, because
Speaker 2: the people where I live are ridiculous. They just I
Speaker 2: don't know, they just have They do not have the
Speaker 2: same sense of like the responsibility to an animal that
Speaker 2: that like we do at my house. You know, it's
Speaker 2: a whole other mentality going on. And somehow, and that's
Speaker 2: this how you end up with these packs of dogs
Speaker 2: in certain neighborhoods. Because a bunch of them get together
Speaker 2: after a while and collect, you know, collect like a pack. Anyway,
Speaker 2: Hang on, Jimmy, maybe we'll talk more about the dog
Speaker 2: packs in the next hour. But well, wait before I
Speaker 2: before I put you on hold, though, what was your
Speaker 2: complaint about the dog? Outside of uh you had trouble
Speaker 2: finding where it belongs? What was your complaint you said,
Speaker 2: I want to complain about this dog I found.
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, my complaint is that no on answers, they're
Speaker 8: bleeping doors and it pisses me.
Speaker 2: All. Oh, so your complaints not with the dog, your
Speaker 2: complaints with people? Absolutely, Okay, fair enough, because it's not
Speaker 2: the dog's fault. Anyway, Hang on, Jimmy, and I think
Speaker 2: we got Danny in California. But I agree you can
Speaker 2: complain about people easily and all day to me and
Speaker 2: I'll probably agree. But dogs, it's usually not their fault
Speaker 2: whatever situation they're in. And I feel bad for pit bulls,
Speaker 2: but also my dogs are too small to be around
Speaker 2: pit bulls. Anyways, Danny, that's.
Speaker 3: You right, Yes it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: What's on what's on your mind this week? Danny?
Speaker 3: Well, I kind of feel like I'm like you remember
Speaker 3: the movie Rosemary's baby when it was kind of like
Speaker 3: she was in a delusional drug state, and all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, a lot of weird stuff's going on, and
Speaker 3: it goes, oh, this is real, Oh with the real Yeah.
Speaker 2: With the real uh with with with the real crazy
Speaker 2: like muted trumpet and all that crap that they were doing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was one of my favorite movies when I was
Speaker 2: a kid, and I couldn't explain why.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if it was one of my
Speaker 3: favorite movies, but I just remember that that that just
Speaker 3: what I remember I saw a long time ago that oh,
Speaker 3: this is real. But I mean I've gotten advised after
Speaker 3: the you know, you have the whole No King's you know, rallies,
Speaker 3: which was pretty peaceful, and all of sudden you start
Speaker 3: getting the vibes, you know with w M.
Speaker 4: D's.
Speaker 3: Uh that little gal that came you know, said they
Speaker 3: were throwing the you know, the first goal for throwing the.
Speaker 2: Babies out of the incubators. Yeah, you know, look I'm
Speaker 2: getting I'm getting the same kind of deja boo as you, Danny.
Speaker 2: But look off topic question real quick, did you ever
Speaker 2: see before we get into the dejah bou some more?
Speaker 2: Did you ever see the follow up to Rosemary's Baby.
Speaker 2: There was actually a part too, you.
Speaker 3: Know, I never okay, I never saw the part too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, what were you gonna say?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I read I read a couple of books from
Speaker 3: Ira Levins that wrote Rosemary's Baby. There was like The
Speaker 3: Boys from Brazil, and yes there's another one. I'm trying
Speaker 3: to think it was another book and it didn't. The
Speaker 3: title escapes me. But yeah, no, I never did know.
Speaker 2: The author of Rosemary's Baby was a wild writer, for sure,
Speaker 2: but no, the follow up was called Whatever Happened to
Speaker 2: Rosemary's Baby? So at some point, yeah, well remember at
Speaker 2: the end of the movie, right, she's like screaming in
Speaker 2: the back of the bus and somebody else is holding
Speaker 2: the baby and they're taking her away, right yeah, and
Speaker 2: that's the end of the movie. Well the you know,
Speaker 2: spoiler for anybody who hasn't seen it. But anyway, the
Speaker 2: thing is years later now Rosemary's Baby is all grown up.
Speaker 2: So he's like nineteen sixties or seventies, you know, hip
Speaker 2: guy and all that, and they're trying to convince him
Speaker 2: to you know, take his place as the true Antichrist
Speaker 2: and all that, and it is it is equally bizarre.
Speaker 2: But the strange thing is I think it was made
Speaker 2: for TV, believe it or not. I got to look
Speaker 2: this up because I remember seeing it, and I think
Speaker 2: I'm the only human being that I know that's ever
Speaker 2: seen whatever happened to Rosemary's Baby, Because anytime I ask anybody,
Speaker 2: they've never seen it. Even if they've seen the original
Speaker 2: know it well, even if they love it, they've never
Speaker 2: seen the follow up. I bet you JG. Michael has
Speaker 2: seen it because he's, you know, an obscure film guy.
Speaker 2: But outside of that, I don't know anybody who's ever
Speaker 2: seen it. So maybe I should look it up now.
Speaker 2: But go ahead and tell us about the deja bou
Speaker 2: you're experiencing, because I'm with you. But but I'm going
Speaker 2: to keep my comments to myself because this show is
Speaker 2: more about you guys commenting and not me.
Speaker 3: Oh that's fine. I mean, I'm just saying, you know,
Speaker 3: the the you know, we have to you know, you know,
Speaker 3: Israel attack them. They're saying that you know, they're taking
Speaker 3: going to take off the head, the head of their state.
Speaker 3: Good luck. I mean, Iran's a hundred million people, and
Speaker 3: just go back to when they assassinate Sulimante. Just go
Speaker 3: look at the funeral. You think those folks are gonna
Speaker 3: are going to tolerate it.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I mean I heard some knuckleheads, well we can, we
Speaker 3: can just kind of bomb our way and get rid
Speaker 3: of them. There'll be a regime change. When have you
Speaker 3: heard that before we dropped, we dropped in North Korea?
Speaker 3: Uh a bomb for every single human being that was
Speaker 3: in North Korea dropped, also used napalm. And guess what,
Speaker 3: the third generation the Kin family is still in state.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is this is, this is where the
Speaker 3: deja view come. It doesn't work. You can't bomb your
Speaker 3: way into a military victory, and why should we? I mean,
Speaker 3: those are those are people. I mean some of this
Speaker 3: endless war cycle just continues.
Speaker 2: Charlie, you don't know if Yeah. Charlie Kirk, who is
Speaker 2: a guy who do not often agree with, was saying online, Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, hey, I just want to make you guys
Speaker 2: remember that even the Romans did not do well against
Speaker 2: the Persians, you know, and I went, hmmm, that's something
Speaker 2: to remember. But also the Romans kind of hit a
Speaker 2: brick wall when it came to you know, the people
Speaker 2: of that land that's supposed to be Israel too, So
Speaker 2: you know, it is a thing. I all I got
Speaker 2: to say is I think that Americans have a distinct
Speaker 2: lack of understanding for the ancient world, and I don't
Speaker 2: think they have any idea what they're going up against
Speaker 2: really quick. The second part of Rosemary's Baby Story is
Speaker 2: a made for television movie titled Look What's Happened to
Speaker 2: Rosemary's Baby See I had the title wrong? Also known
Speaker 2: as Rosemary's Baby Part Too. It was released in nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy six as an ABC Friday Night movie.
Speaker 3: Can you believe that? I? You know, it was I
Speaker 3: don't remember that at all, And I was I was like,
Speaker 3: I think a freshman in the eighty six was a
Speaker 3: freshman in high school or graduated in eighth grade.
Speaker 4: Or something like that.
Speaker 2: No, seventy six, Danny seventy six, they released it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have been in eighth grade. If it
Speaker 3: was a spring in the fall, I would have been
Speaker 3: a freshman in high school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I think I was, you know what, I
Speaker 2: was four years old and saw this on television. I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure, Oh really yeah, because now I'm thinking about it.
Speaker 2: And then and then I saw it years later, like
Speaker 2: like when I was like nine or eight or nine,
Speaker 2: and it was rerun on like one of the independent channels,
Speaker 2: because you know, like Channel eleven in New York. They
Speaker 2: reran it, and I was like, yeah, I remember seeing
Speaker 2: this movie before, but I had never seen the end
Speaker 2: of it. And then finally I got to see the
Speaker 2: end of it, like when I was eight or nine
Speaker 2: years old, which it's not a great movie. There's a
Speaker 2: weird thing going on with like a black pickup truck
Speaker 2: with an inverted cross dangling from the rearview mirror, chasing
Speaker 2: around after people. There's all kinds of weird stuff going on.
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, yeah, there's yeah. You know, we didn't have
Speaker 3: a lot of TV. We didn't even have a cable band.
Speaker 3: I remember the first time I ever saw HBO's I
Speaker 3: was dating my wife. I think it was like seventy
Speaker 3: nine or maybe it was nineteen eighty and and I
Speaker 3: hung out with her and it was they had h
Speaker 3: Bill and it was one channel, and.
Speaker 2: I was yeah.
Speaker 3: And usually when you when they had a movie like
Speaker 3: with Rose Connected Rosemary's Baby, you think there'd be some hype.
Speaker 3: I don't even remember. I don't even remember hearing about that.
Speaker 2: Well, no, but this was done in nineteen seventy six
Speaker 2: on broadcast TV, is my point. You know, so this
Speaker 2: wasn't even kbly.
Speaker 3: This is like usually a movie like that, there would
Speaker 3: be like a Friday night movie or a Sunday night movie.
Speaker 3: There'd be like a build up, they'd be commercials all
Speaker 3: over all the place.
Speaker 2: Nineteen. Yeah, nineteen seventy six was a weird year because
Speaker 2: remember that was the bi centennial and all that, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, there.
Speaker 3: Was a lot of things going on, right Yeah, Gerald
Speaker 3: Ford was the president and SNL Chevy Chase was having
Speaker 3: a great time with it, right Yeah. In fact, that.
Speaker 2: My daughter there you go to earb Pete got his
Speaker 2: driver's license.
Speaker 3: Wow, I was seventy eight for me, b Pete. Star
Speaker 3: Wars was the was the I remember getting my license
Speaker 3: and then going with my brother and my mother we
Speaker 3: went to because see Star Wars waited in line. That
Speaker 3: was that was in seventy eight, I believe. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: seventy six.
Speaker 2: They also part of it. I'm sorry really quickly. Part
Speaker 2: of a write up here says just because you brought
Speaker 2: up the book, uh, the movie has limited connection to
Speaker 2: the Ira Levins novel son of Rosemary, although both stories
Speaker 2: feature a character named Andrew or Andy, which becomes Adrian
Speaker 2: and all that because Adrian is the name of the baby,
Speaker 2: and in fact, the plot of the movie picks up
Speaker 2: with an eight year old Adrian, who has been adopted
Speaker 2: after Rosemary goes into hiding. The story then jumps twenty years,
Speaker 2: showing Adrian as a young man struggling with nightmares and
Speaker 2: violent urges, ultimately manipulated by the coven to fulfill their
Speaker 2: demonic plans. It was. It was panned by critics like brutally,
Speaker 2: you know, but anyway, but it exists. I'm just saying
Speaker 2: it exists.
Speaker 3: But yeah, there's two books I remember. I remember reading
Speaker 3: The Boys from Brazil and then I think the movie
Speaker 3: was called either Slibber or Sober. It was, it was.
Speaker 3: It was kind of strange book by I is that
Speaker 3: the one with the surveillance.
Speaker 2: Is that the one with the crazy surveillance where the guys, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I know that one.
Speaker 3: I know they have. Yeah, But other than that, those
Speaker 3: are the two books I read by Ira.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because this guy like has an apartment building or
Speaker 2: an apartment complex, I can't remember, and he's got like
Speaker 2: cameras in every apartment. He's watching everybody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's the book. Yeah, it's kind of it's
Speaker 3: kind of dystopian from today, because you know, I think
Speaker 3: about it now. I'm being surveiled all the time. I mean,
Speaker 3: whether I got my phone, surveill on me, my smart TV,
Speaker 3: at my work, there's cameras all over there. In my truck,
Speaker 3: pive got a camera. But we have a big old
Speaker 3: thing with dry canon and they catch you on everything.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: And you know, I can remember especially became very public
Speaker 3: after nine to eleven. I was in downtown San Francisco
Speaker 3: to a neglibum. Obama came into the city to do
Speaker 3: like some fundraiser, and they had I mean they had
Speaker 3: blocks cut off and the Secret Service. But I noticed
Speaker 3: that I looked up at every place in San Francisco.
Speaker 3: Now there's cameras everywhere. I mean, I don't know how
Speaker 3: you can't hide anything. There's enough.
Speaker 4: That reminds me of a story I just read today.
Speaker 4: The Washington State Police are now using phone data to
Speaker 4: bust people for speeding, Yeah, and for texting while riding
Speaker 4: with their support. I guess their superior their phone companies
Speaker 4: for records yep of drivers yep. And uh so, now
Speaker 4: your phone if you're in Washington State, cut your phone
Speaker 4: off while you're driving somewhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, bad news VP, because it's not just in
Speaker 2: Washington State. If you if you've been reading articles over
Speaker 2: the past decade or so periodically, some you know, policing
Speaker 2: agencies somewhere everywhere seems to be uh is doing this
Speaker 2: is you know, getting phone data and using it against
Speaker 2: people all over the country, actually all over the It's
Speaker 2: not just in Washington. I'm just telling you it is.
Speaker 2: It's part of the you know, the voluntary surveillance grid,
Speaker 2: which is amazing because you know, people don't even consider
Speaker 2: it a thing. And I'll tell you something. Kids that
Speaker 2: were born like I got, you know, a daughter in
Speaker 2: her mid twenties, it's not even odd to her that
Speaker 2: there's a camera everywhere, like you know, post nine to
Speaker 2: eleven reality. It's just it's not out at all. Every
Speaker 2: story you go into you're being surveilled. Okay, fine, but
Speaker 2: street corners, your house, your neighbors have you know, cameras
Speaker 2: on their house, which you know, in some ways they're
Speaker 2: capturing part of you. I mean, and there's a couple
Speaker 2: of services. By the way, that, you know, just an
Speaker 2: idiot like me could turn around and for a small
Speaker 2: fee get access to tons of these cloud systems where
Speaker 2: cameras exist either locally or wherever the hell I want,
Speaker 2: and I can access full on grids of all sorts
Speaker 2: of mixes of security cabs, personal cams, you know, cameras
Speaker 2: that people forgot about that are running, I mean just
Speaker 2: all over the place. If there's an active camera, it
Speaker 2: can be accessed. I'm just telling you so you know,
Speaker 2: privacy believe it's an illusion. It's an illusion and a
Speaker 2: lie you tell yourself because you don't have it anymore.
Speaker 2: It's gone, and it's been done incrementally, you know, for
Speaker 2: your safety. So you know, enjoy. What can I tell you?
Speaker 2: I will never forget. I'll tell you something I'll never forget.
Speaker 2: One of the first documentaries I ever watched on HBO
Speaker 2: because you know, HBO was too damn expensive, like when
Speaker 2: I was a kid. But at a certain point, like
Speaker 2: even you know, the cable company would run a special
Speaker 2: so you know my mother would get a cable finally,
Speaker 2: so she did, and when she did, she got HBO
Speaker 2: as part of a package. I don't know, they charged
Speaker 2: like thirty dollars a month. You know, it was great,
Speaker 2: but anyway, I mean thirty dollars a month, not for HBO,
Speaker 2: but I mean for everything. So we get the HBO
Speaker 2: in there, and I'm watching this documentary and they were
Speaker 2: complaining about how, you know, people have cam quarters and
Speaker 2: eventually there's going to be cameras everywhere, and the threat
Speaker 2: of Big Brother as described in nineteen eighty four is
Speaker 2: actually turned on its head because we are not being
Speaker 2: watched by Big Brother. We become Big Brother, and that's
Speaker 2: what the future looks like. And they were saying that
Speaker 2: in like nineteen eighty, I don't know, eighty one, eighty two,
Speaker 2: eighty three, eighty four, somewhere in there. In the in
Speaker 2: the early eighties, they were telling us, look, you see
Speaker 2: this technology coming. What it means is you're now going
Speaker 2: to be Big Brother. Have fun. And I thought, well,
Speaker 2: what is this hyperbolic kind of statement? Is this one
Speaker 2: of those you know, shock documentaries try and get people
Speaker 2: thinking and another one of those things nobody ever saw
Speaker 2: that can never tell me, Oh, I never saw that.
Speaker 2: Nobody ever saw it, but I did, and it stuck
Speaker 2: with me. And you know what, they were dead right. Anyways,
Speaker 2: starting with this in the mid eighties, the early eighties,
Speaker 2: early eighties. You know that I have a strange experience
Speaker 2: that still sits with me.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm still an analog guy and technology has
Speaker 3: passed me by. But I worked small for about a
Speaker 3: year for a retail electronic sales company, and I can
Speaker 3: remember this guy came in and I taking computers. Seemed
Speaker 3: like they were like he could play games on them,
Speaker 3: or they were a pretty good like accounting tool to like,
Speaker 3: you know, learn invoices and accounting, you know, in shot.
Speaker 3: But we had no Internet. I didn't even have the
Speaker 3: concept of the Information super Highway. And I remember this
Speaker 3: guy coming in. It was almost like he was out
Speaker 3: of it, stepped out of the future, like almost time travel.
Speaker 3: And he went on and on about the cell phone
Speaker 3: and I didn't even have an idea. There was no
Speaker 3: cell phones out and how he told me it was
Speaker 3: going to change the world, and I mean just he
Speaker 3: was geeking out and I was just listening to him.
Speaker 3: And when he left, I I remember telling myself to
Speaker 3: this day, I like, how the hell can a phone
Speaker 3: change the world? I didn't have a clue. If I
Speaker 3: would have known then, it was like, you know, come
Speaker 3: in back to the future. Given me like that that
Speaker 3: all sports, Senate, this is where you need to invest.
Speaker 3: You know, it's like and it did. It has changed
Speaker 3: the world. Now he's your stock. Used to hear about
Speaker 3: US steel or GM, now it's about motorole, Sam Suck.
Speaker 3: I mean it has changed the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, absolutely. Look, I remember just vaguely when it
Speaker 2: was like very rich guys had these mobile phones. They
Speaker 2: called them mobile phones, right or and and some people
Speaker 2: had their car phones, big ass you know thing and
Speaker 2: if you could carry it. I carried it in a
Speaker 2: whole briefcase. It took up and it probably irradiated you
Speaker 2: to death. But the thing is, you know, it costs
Speaker 2: you twenty dollars to say hello to somebody because you
Speaker 2: paid you know, by the second or whatever. But I
Speaker 2: mean really only mob guys and like the super rich
Speaker 2: could afford them. But but they're where are a couple
Speaker 2: of people back then saying you know, this is going
Speaker 2: to change everything? And honestly, it was like, so what,
Speaker 2: it's a phone, it's mobile now, so what yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: I know, I know, even up into the late nineties,
Speaker 2: I kind of looked at the phones like because I
Speaker 2: had a cell phone in nineteen ninety nine. Yeah, nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety nine is when I got my first like cell phones.
Speaker 2: I got two of them because I got one from
Speaker 2: my job because they wanted twenty four hours to be
Speaker 2: able to get me. And uh and I got one
Speaker 2: personally because I had a baby on the way and
Speaker 2: you know, my baby mama lived elsewhere, so I needed
Speaker 2: to be able to be contacted, so I would jump
Speaker 2: on a train and get to Earth quick because I could.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and that phone I got rid of it.
Speaker 2: I had a sprint phone that I was like putting
Speaker 2: one hundred dollars on at a time just to keep
Speaker 2: it running. And uh yeah, but my boss paid for
Speaker 2: the other cell phone that was you know, supposed to
Speaker 2: be only for work purposes. But you know, yeah, and
Speaker 2: and and it was weird. It was almost like it
Speaker 2: was still a status symbol in nineteen ninety nine. To people,
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, you must have you have a cell phone? Like, no, well,
Speaker 2: my job gave it to me, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know if anybody here is a big
Speaker 3: fan of X Files. It's one of my favorite TV shows.
Speaker 3: I'll stop and watch, you know, reruns constantly and if
Speaker 3: you watch that show, I think it's not until season
Speaker 3: three or four they start using the cell phone, because
Speaker 3: that became really popular. You know, you were always Stoler
Speaker 3: and Moly were always on that cell phone. It was
Speaker 3: that was when it was kind of becoming a fad.
Speaker 3: But that was in the nineties. I don't think I
Speaker 3: got a phone. It was. It was a Sprint next tail.
Speaker 3: It was almost like a walkie hockey cell phone and
Speaker 3: the only and I didn't even want the phone. The
Speaker 3: only reason I got the phone was is my wife
Speaker 3: talked me into it was because I need to get
Speaker 3: a hold of you, and the kids need to get
Speaker 3: a hold of it. And sure enough to to this day,
Speaker 3: my kids still got to get a hold of me,
Speaker 3: you know, especially if my two daughters they want something fixed,
Speaker 3: you'll call me. And I always ask them, hey, why
Speaker 3: don't you ask your husband? And they say almost to go, Dad,
Speaker 3: are you serious? They don't have to fix anything, but
Speaker 3: they can do computers. I can't do the computer stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well see, I'm at a weird other crossroads with that.
Speaker 2: But I don't I don't have a self. As a
Speaker 2: matter of fact, people look at me like I'm from
Speaker 2: another planet. All the time, like, you don't have a phone.
Speaker 2: You don't have a phone. No, I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: have a cell phone. No, missus O has a cell phone.
Speaker 2: I do not, Okay, and I don't. I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't get another line for yourself. I don't want it.
Speaker 2: I really don't want a cell phone, as strange as
Speaker 2: that sounds. So I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm a weirdo for you.
Speaker 3: You're statured for you. I'm almost now thinking, after all
Speaker 3: these years, somebody's still analog. I'm now even at times
Speaker 3: I saw myself almost addicted to my sense. Told me, now,
Speaker 3: they psychologically got these algorithms. They're gonna get your endorphins,
Speaker 3: and they're gonna get you hooked on it. He stays
Speaker 3: offul all social media.
Speaker 2: Yea, they no, they they've designed it. They've designed all
Speaker 2: this stuff to be an addiction machine, basically. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's the way it is. Well, yeah, and I had
Speaker 2: a cell phone in I had a cell phone in
Speaker 2: what twenty seventeen. I had a cell phone when I
Speaker 2: went to when I went to Lancer, but I had
Speaker 2: gotten it specifically because I was going to be out
Speaker 2: of state, and you know, the only person I knew
Speaker 2: was bepete with me. And you know, imagine this if
Speaker 2: we had gotten into an accident. Basically, it was like
Speaker 2: for emergency in case if we had gotten into an
Speaker 2: accident or we got separated or something, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Like I have a way to communicate with people.
Speaker 2: Otherwise what am I going to do? It's not like
Speaker 2: I can use a payphone or you know, in the
Speaker 2: old days, I used to know numbers. I could jump
Speaker 2: on a payphone anywhere. If I had enough change, I'd
Speaker 2: call anybody, you know what I mean. Those days.
Speaker 3: I see a payphone every now and then I'm like,
Speaker 3: I got to take a double take. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: even in.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, even in Broke Gass, Georgia,
Speaker 2: I don't see payphones anywhere nowhere. I mean I see
Speaker 2: the you know, I see the shells of the payphone
Speaker 2: still up on the walls here and there, but there's
Speaker 2: no phones in them, you know. But yeah, those days
Speaker 2: are gone. And and that's the funny thing too. Again.
Speaker 2: When I was a kid, payphones were everywhere. There were
Speaker 2: phone booths occasionally, you know that thing that Superman used
Speaker 2: to change in Those things existed, folks. Sorry, Danny, go ahead.
Speaker 3: No worries. I had some friends they just took a
Speaker 3: week trip out to Texas and and they went from Houston.
Speaker 3: They're based. They flew out of Dallas, but they based
Speaker 3: in Boston. They went to Houston. They're big baseball fans,
Speaker 3: so they went to the Asterisk game. They went to
Speaker 3: Arlington the Rangers. But then they mentioned, hey, and I
Speaker 3: just got off work. They were kind we were watching
Speaker 3: their dog for him, and they go, yeah, we went
Speaker 3: to Daley Plaz and the guy got so I started
Speaker 3: nerding out on it and nice. And then my friend,
Speaker 3: she's a she's a principal and he's a retired teacher,
Speaker 3: and she goes, yeah, stand there. She goes, why didn't
Speaker 3: if they did a shot of the six floor, why
Speaker 3: didn't they just shoot him when he you know, this
Speaker 3: kind of made that turn right into Daley Plaz. There's
Speaker 3: a straight shot. Does that make sense? And I'm just
Speaker 3: kind of act when I go that kind of Has
Speaker 3: that ever been talked about, like why didn't they if
Speaker 3: there was an assassin, didn't shoot from there?
Speaker 2: Yeah? By me, I've talked about it many times. It
Speaker 2: would have made more sense to shoot him on main
Speaker 2: because then you could have had, you know, the Elm Street.
Speaker 2: If they turned on Elm Street, you could have poked
Speaker 2: the gun out the window and taken another shot at
Speaker 2: the car. Then, because he already had him trapped on Maine,
Speaker 2: they couldn't have turned anywhere except made the right because
Speaker 2: there was no way to go. So I've always said that,
Speaker 2: And there is a window facing that direction, if you
Speaker 2: believe the Oswald perch. So yeah, no, I've always had
Speaker 2: that question. Matter of fact, if you look at my uh,
Speaker 2: if you look at my o'celly on the Grassy Knoll
Speaker 2: short film, you'll see that that text question is there,
Speaker 2: why it isn't this isn't this a good shot right
Speaker 2: from this window? When I'm looking, I'm showing you the
Speaker 2: FBI reenactment of the sixth Floor, and they they point
Speaker 2: the camera out that window and show you that street,
Speaker 2: and my text question on the screen is isn't this
Speaker 2: a better shot out this window? But anyway, that's just
Speaker 2: me tell you what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna take
Speaker 2: a little break here. I see Jimmy James is back
Speaker 2: on the line, and I'm hoping some more people will
Speaker 2: join in. But if not, I'll get back around to you, Danny.
Speaker 2: We'll get back around to Jimmy James, and also hear
Speaker 2: more from BP soon.
Speaker 10: BB.
Speaker 2: What do you think take a little break? Sure, all right,
Speaker 2: let's just do that for now, and it will be
Speaker 2: a short break because I didn't organize my breaks very
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Speaker 2: That's the number to become part of this. Anyways, Jimmy James,
Speaker 2: you're back on. I noticed you clicked off, you came back,
Speaker 2: so gave you another turn to drop whatever else it
Speaker 2: is you want on the table. Brother, what's up?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what happen.
Speaker 8: They're just my Wi Fi signal all of a sudden
Speaker 8: turned rad and said, poor.
Speaker 7: WiFi signal and just strapped up. Yeah, that's all the Well,
Speaker 7: I was going to bring up something.
Speaker 8: That how come everyone in the w NBA hates this
Speaker 8: Caitlin Clark. Do they not understand that she is literally
Speaker 8: the only person who is liked in the w NBA.
Speaker 4: That's why they don't like her.
Speaker 2: You know, that's exactly what the problem is. Funny that
Speaker 2: you bring this up, because I never thought I would
Speaker 2: give a crap, but you know, it came up in
Speaker 2: my news feeds like all of a sudden, WNBA tickets
Speaker 2: were not selling as well. She comes back and they
Speaker 2: start selling again, and there's a bunch of resentment apparently
Speaker 2: among the people involved. And I'm like, why why would you?
Speaker 2: If I was in the WNBA being subsidized by the NBA,
Speaker 2: okay and barely existing because they don't have a real
Speaker 2: fan base, I'd be thrilled for anybody that was raising
Speaker 2: ticket sales, especially if I was I don't know, a
Speaker 2: player or a coach, somebody was trying to make a
Speaker 2: living with this, and yet they resent this girl. What
Speaker 2: is the deal?
Speaker 4: Well, who got a bunch of black and esbios, a
Speaker 4: bunch of racist black livesbers? It didn't like the new
Speaker 4: white girl coming in with all the pizazz and backing
Speaker 4: that she had from finishing out of college years come
Speaker 4: into the w NBA and stepping on people's toes. I
Speaker 4: mean there's a lot, there's a lot of racism involved
Speaker 4: between the black female players and the w NBA and
Speaker 4: white players. Well do you think it's ms come to
Speaker 4: my head?
Speaker 2: Well, do you think it's just racism or because I
Speaker 2: noticed in other sports they get real resentful of the new, fresh,
Speaker 2: superstar rookies.
Speaker 4: No, now, it's more racism. It's more racism than anything.
Speaker 4: That's nothing more racist than a black female.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, No, I'm not arguing with you. I'm just
Speaker 2: asking because I see in other sports a lot of times,
Speaker 2: you know, the new guy comes in and he gets
Speaker 2: a big, huge contract as well.
Speaker 4: But these are women. These are women. You cannot compare.
Speaker 4: The two women are in a world by themselves. I
Speaker 4: know some listeners aren't gonna like to hear this, but school,
Speaker 4: it's a fact you're dealing with women. I'll give you
Speaker 4: an example.
Speaker 2: When we already asked, we already have no female listeners,
Speaker 2: so it's all right, go ahead.
Speaker 4: Well, my ex wife, he would always go to work
Speaker 4: at these places where there was nothing but women. She
Speaker 4: would come home every day and bitch and moman complain
Speaker 4: about how these women treated each other. And I'm sitting
Speaker 4: there thinking in the room, we don't expect you go
Speaker 4: to work at a place that's nothing but women. They're
Speaker 4: gonna sit there and just stab each other in the box.
Speaker 4: And I don't know if it's a if it's an
Speaker 4: ego thing, or if it's a competition thing, or they're
Speaker 4: all a bunch of narcissists, But every time I've been
Speaker 4: involved with a female that work in a place where
Speaker 4: they were only women, it was nothing but problems, and
Speaker 4: they would come home and bitch about it every night.
Speaker 4: It's like, go find another job.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you something. It reminds me of the family
Speaker 2: guye joke that I think it simplifies it even more.
Speaker 2: And what happened is they accidentally like got rid of
Speaker 2: all of television and so they had to rebuild TV
Speaker 2: from scratch, right, so they're like, Okay, we're gonna do this,
Speaker 2: Go do this kind of show, do that kind of
Speaker 2: stupid show. Okay, go do a game show. And then
Speaker 2: they were you know, doing and okay, sir, now we
Speaker 2: got to come up with reality TV. All right, here's
Speaker 2: what you do. Get a couple of men together and
Speaker 2: put them in this weird situation and blah blah blah
Speaker 2: and a bunch of stuff, and they'll start fighting and
Speaker 2: that'll get ratings. Go ahead, I'll tell you what. Well, sir,
Speaker 2: what else are we gonna do? Well, let's just get
Speaker 2: a bunch of women together. And you know what, if
Speaker 2: you get a bunch of women together, they'll start fighting. Anyway.
Speaker 2: Go And I'm like, okay, but it's true. And it's
Speaker 2: not just when it's all women either, Like I've seen
Speaker 2: it where it's a mixed situation where there's like you know,
Speaker 2: say a half and half, like half of the staff
Speaker 2: is women and half of its men. And they start
Speaker 2: competing and they're angry because the one girl's pretty, so
Speaker 2: the guys are nicer to her, and I mean all
Speaker 2: kinds of weird crap starts having and I'm talking about
Speaker 2: crap jobs, not even good jobs. They're competing with each other, Angry,
Speaker 2: you know, mad that somebody got twenty five cents more
Speaker 2: an hour, Angry that the guys are nicer, Angry that
Speaker 2: the boss. Oh, and immediately somebody's banging the boss, whether
Speaker 2: they are or not. Uh, you know, I mean, it's
Speaker 2: just a nightmare.
Speaker 4: So I'm telling you it's it's it's rough. I don't
Speaker 4: I don't understand, you know, look at these I'll give
Speaker 4: you a perfect example. Somebody, and I forget who it was,
Speaker 4: was talking about the w n b A and the
Speaker 4: support of women for the wn b A, and we
Speaker 4: went through this, go forget a few years ago with
Speaker 4: the UH, the women's UH national soccer team, soccer with UH,
Speaker 4: with Rapino and all the rest of them. That will
Speaker 4: get you a moment that they won't make it as
Speaker 4: much money, but because they signed a different contract, but
Speaker 4: you have women.
Speaker 3: What was it?
Speaker 4: They brought up the fact that, you know, you have
Speaker 4: a woman's sports that's not being supported by women. They
Speaker 4: would rat rather watch things like the Kardashians or Housewives
Speaker 4: of Atlanta where women are just tearing each other down
Speaker 4: left and right. It's like women are their own most enemies.
Speaker 4: They can't support the Women's National Basketball Association and yet
Speaker 4: they complain that men don't support it for them.
Speaker 2: So there's that plus racism. You're telling me, Oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the NDA, lots of Blackstays and the WNBO are
Speaker 4: very racist. Then they'll show you on the court. They
Speaker 4: take it out on Caven Cark all the time.
Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, I'm just asking and just also making the
Speaker 2: observation that I don't think it matters what color they
Speaker 2: are because they just do this. It's just what women do.
Speaker 2: But maybe it's me. I don't know, Jimmy what you
Speaker 2: brought it up, but I mean you've got any more
Speaker 2: thoughts on it.
Speaker 1: Well, I agree with BP.
Speaker 7: That that's a lot of the problems, but like you said, alive,
Speaker 7: I mean, that's so called Heat's been around for thirty years,
Speaker 7: but no one even noticed it for the last couple
Speaker 7: of years.
Speaker 4: They lost thirty million dollars this last season.
Speaker 3: To think.
Speaker 2: They lost forty million this last season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so they've been They have been sensitized by the
Speaker 4: NBA since they were created, and the thought was we
Speaker 4: get the league going. They start selling tickets, they start
Speaker 4: putting people in the suits. Well, nobody's interested, nobody's going
Speaker 4: to the games. I mean, most of these arenas that
Speaker 4: you've looked on Amanda Knight and it's just vacant. Well,
Speaker 4: the Clark comes in, she joins, or was it any
Speaker 4: other fever. Yeah, So she joins this team and suddenly
Speaker 4: ticket sales are through the roof. They're setting out the
Speaker 4: arena for people to just come and watch this girl play.
Speaker 4: And instead of these other players thinking that this is
Speaker 4: a good thing, they want to start cutting her down.
Speaker 4: They want to try to take her down.
Speaker 2: Is she really? Is she really? Really? Look? I barely
Speaker 2: care about basketball at all, Like I don't care about
Speaker 2: the NBA, But I mean she actually good.
Speaker 3: That's the thank chuck.
Speaker 7: She's very good, Okay.
Speaker 4: Very good? Yeah, not just good, she's very good.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: Perhaps that's the interesting problem they have, is that they
Speaker 2: need to develop their players more so that their players
Speaker 2: are all good.
Speaker 4: Well, but some people are natural. Color Clark was a natural.
Speaker 4: This still his three pointers from halfway between the three
Speaker 4: point line and half court. Okay, Charling pull up through
Speaker 4: three point line to shoot. She'll shoot three steps past
Speaker 4: half court and you know, nothing but that nice?
Speaker 2: Okay, I get it. But the thing is, I mean,
Speaker 2: you would think with all the girls college basketball that
Speaker 2: they might have a better developmental system. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: the NBA manages to them up with some pretty damn
Speaker 2: good players. You know, not everybody has a Jordan on
Speaker 2: their team, but you know almost all of them have
Speaker 2: at least a star player or two, even in the
Speaker 2: worst markets. So I'm thinking there's got to be a
Speaker 2: way to develop these girls so that are women excuse me,
Speaker 2: so that you know they're better players because these are
Speaker 2: low scoring affairs and low scoring sports, I mean are
Speaker 2: hard to sell to Americans. They just are number one.
Speaker 4: Well really sports have always been hard to sell to Americans.
Speaker 3: Well, there are another thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying there isn't more against it,
Speaker 2: but I mean, if you want to counter some of that,
Speaker 2: wouldn't you say that they should maybe work on their
Speaker 2: developmental you know, they're developmental enterprises.
Speaker 4: I mean I'm just saying, well, yeah, I don't think
Speaker 4: they're the college is are the ones don't have any
Speaker 4: walk ons that make it, And you know it's just
Speaker 4: a matter of what college they went to, that kind
Speaker 4: of prog and they've had in place, how much playing
Speaker 4: tinally saw like he just sought those through. But you've
Speaker 4: got that homeful that are just natural talent. They didn't
Speaker 4: want to where he played, she was going to do well.
Speaker 4: See and another issues.
Speaker 2: Okay, I got just at Iowa But another weird thing
Speaker 2: with WNBA is that, Okay, for instance, like there was
Speaker 2: this recent controversy with the Puerto Rican Basketball League. In
Speaker 2: other countries there are you know, they don't make it
Speaker 2: in the NBA, guys can wind up playing in Europe
Speaker 2: or China or freaking Puerto Rico the Puerto Rican League.
Speaker 2: Are there other like semi pro or pro leagues in
Speaker 2: other countries for women or is it just in America,
Speaker 2: because yeah.
Speaker 4: No, it's in other countries.
Speaker 6: That's what.
Speaker 7: Kate o'clark's one of the highest paid months charc and
Speaker 7: she gets paid seventy grand.
Speaker 2: No, that's fine, I'm putting here though.
Speaker 4: They thought leagues all over the world. That's how Brittay
Speaker 4: Groner got busted for going to Russia because was playing
Speaker 4: for the rest of the team.
Speaker 2: Okay, so out of season, Okay, So they do have
Speaker 2: other countries, and I was just wondering if there was
Speaker 2: a system like that, because again, sometimes these guys come
Speaker 2: back out of Europe or whatever and they go back
Speaker 2: to the NBA. Right, So you know, I'm thinking they
Speaker 2: would have a greater chance of development, but they already
Speaker 2: have it and it's still not doing it. Okay, I
Speaker 2: was just curious.
Speaker 4: I don't know less countries. You don't moost countries.
Speaker 15: You have.
Speaker 4: You have the women's national team, and they are the
Speaker 4: ones that usually go to the Olympics, and that here
Speaker 4: we do it a little different. We pick a coach
Speaker 4: for the Olympic team and they invite a bunch of
Speaker 4: pros and try to fill over the pros and college
Speaker 4: people to put our Olympic team together. Most other countries,
Speaker 4: it's the national team that is representing them, just like
Speaker 4: the team in Russia. There's a league over there. Britney
Speaker 4: Grindod was on our way over because he plays in
Speaker 4: the off season over there. And apparently in the confusion,
Speaker 4: she had some fake cartridges that had th HC in
Speaker 4: them and that's what she got busted for, right, right,
Speaker 4: So she was over their own business. I mean, not
Speaker 4: fair enough.
Speaker 3: Maybe she was gonna go.
Speaker 7: As an ECLIPUS game for something to play against the Russia.
Speaker 2: Maybe well she was played in the league over there, okay,
Speaker 2: well either with team that was four well, but either way,
Speaker 2: I mean there is some international concern, That's all I
Speaker 2: was getting at. I mean, even in baseball, you got
Speaker 2: like you know, you're there used to be a winter
Speaker 2: league in Puerto Rico. There used to be uh, you know,
Speaker 2: different other countries. Japan had a lot of Now we
Speaker 2: got a lot of Japanese players here, you know, I mean, please,
Speaker 2: we know about that. Matter of fact, I'll probably hear
Speaker 2: from Danny on that when I bring them back on.
Speaker 2: But uh, it's it's amazing, right, you know, like if
Speaker 2: you have an international sort of like collection of development,
Speaker 2: you have the possibility of people coming from other countries.
Speaker 2: And again, just like anything you have a developmental system.
Speaker 2: It's good. You know, not everything needs a farm system,
Speaker 2: but in some ways or other they sort of do,
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, I know baseball has the minor
Speaker 2: leagues and stuff like that, and hockey has you know,
Speaker 2: your minor league hockey, and I don't think football. NFL
Speaker 2: doesn't really have that though. They just go straight from
Speaker 2: college into NFL pretty much.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah it Now you got the US the UFL
Speaker 4: and XFL merged what this last year, so you do
Speaker 4: have those off season football programs. You've got the Canadian
Speaker 4: Football League, which our guys will bounce around to football.
Speaker 4: American football is gaining a foothold in other countries, but
Speaker 4: it's still mostly an American thing.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, but still it doesn't require a massive farm system.
Speaker 2: It looks like but you know baseball, did you know?
Speaker 3: And well?
Speaker 4: And baseball now baseball. That's the one thing about baseball.
Speaker 4: It's all over the world, from Korea to China to
Speaker 4: Japan to everybody. Who's got to lead right, Yeah, says
Speaker 4: here Briny Gyner. She went to place she was going
Speaker 4: to be in the resting premiere to league. It doesn't
Speaker 4: say what team she would have been on, but that
Speaker 4: was her reason over there NSC. She played for U
Speaker 4: m MC the Cattle and Bird, which won the euro League,
Speaker 4: and she was part of three russ and National League
Speaker 4: titles on the teams she was with.
Speaker 2: Who knew? All right, hang on, Jimmy, we'll put you
Speaker 2: on hold momentarily, probably try to get back around to
Speaker 2: you one more time. And Danny, you're back on the
Speaker 2: line because nobody else is calling in, so we'll just
Speaker 2: have you and Jimmy take turns. So three one nine, five, seven,
Speaker 2: five zero one six if you want to interrupt the cycle, guys,
Speaker 2: But Danny, yeah, so you got anything you want to
Speaker 2: say about this basketball deal or any of these sports discussions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Jackie Sheldon, the basketball player that started the
Speaker 3: controversy with Kit and I do admit Caitlin Clark is
Speaker 3: a talented basketball player. Jackie Sheldon, who is a white girl.
Speaker 3: That's who the controverse is. And if you go look
Speaker 3: at her her, she just made a payday because she's
Speaker 3: she's dropped dead gorgeous. She's all over Instagram, and I'm
Speaker 3: sure she just got her name out there. I mean,
Speaker 3: she she's now in the pray, so she's twenty four
Speaker 3: years old, and she's now probably bought herself some modeling contracts.
Speaker 2: So there's actually a pretty girl in the WNBA. Also, huh,
Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Both both the heterosexual metals
Speaker 3: and lesbians are going to love her.
Speaker 2: Okay, well hey there's that, and that we could be.
Speaker 2: Another thing is if you know anyway, I'm not even
Speaker 2: going to say it.
Speaker 3: I'm sure she's a good basketball player, but I'm just
Speaker 3: saying that, you know, you start having the beef with
Speaker 3: her and all of a sudden, you know, you see
Speaker 3: her Instagram is blowing up. Guess what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's just like during World War Two when
Speaker 2: they had you know, the the All American girls baseball teams,
Speaker 2: you know, right in that one area of the country
Speaker 2: pretty much. Uh, you know, they tried to get attractive
Speaker 2: women who could also play the game. And you know,
Speaker 2: there's something to be said for that. I know you're
Speaker 2: not allowed to say that kind of thing anymore, but
Speaker 2: there's something to be said for it. Let's be honest. Okay, Well.
Speaker 3: A question.
Speaker 4: Law love, but poos remode eligible? Do you think there
Speaker 4: should be at baseball?
Speaker 2: Believe it or not. I have an opinion on that too,
Speaker 2: But Danny, you first, you know.
Speaker 15: It's you know, I'm torn as far as his play
Speaker 15: in the game, you know, you know, his stat wise,
Speaker 15: maybe with an ask, I don't know, if you go
Speaker 15: the way Moraley's gone to day.
Speaker 3: I mean he did he did gamble on baseball. I
Speaker 3: mean he and he he was unrepentant of it for
Speaker 3: a long time. I mean, I don't know. Maybe after,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe maybe the suspension you can maybe he's
Speaker 3: out of purgatory, if that makes sense. I mean I
Speaker 3: would say maybe with an asterisk, because I mean his
Speaker 3: his what he did on the field was deserving, what
Speaker 3: he did off the field was shameful. If that makes sense.
Speaker 3: So I'm kind of caught between Hi low a hard place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they I think they also let Shules's Joe
Speaker 2: back for eligibility as well. But you know, now we're
Speaker 2: at a point in history where quite honestly, people only
Speaker 2: know the movie Eight Men Out. They don't know the
Speaker 2: guy as a player. Yeah have.
Speaker 3: The other thing was now with gambling. Gambling. Gambling funds
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of the sports. I mean,
Speaker 3: if you listen to talk sports radio, you watch.
Speaker 2: A game, well that's his name is now yeah now
Speaker 2: that yeah, literally some of your football and some of
Speaker 2: your everything else is brought to you by sports gambling apps.
Speaker 2: Gamble on the game right now at home. So to me,
Speaker 2: it's like, I gotta be honest with you. Like, and
Speaker 2: I saw Pete Rose play as a as a Philadelphia
Speaker 2: Philly and then as a Red. I know he was
Speaker 2: a Red first and then became a Philly for a
Speaker 2: short time and all that. But the thing is, I
Speaker 2: saw that, and I got to tell you, I don't
Speaker 2: see any reason not to have this guy in the
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. I I even unless he absolutely, you know,
Speaker 2: did something horrible like throw a game, and you can
Speaker 2: prove that.
Speaker 4: I'll look at it this way. There's a thousand things
Speaker 4: he could have bet on. He bet on baseball, and that,
Speaker 4: I hate to say it should be enough to keep
Speaker 4: him out.
Speaker 2: Well, he bet on a thousand things too. The guy
Speaker 2: was a gambling addict.
Speaker 4: I will have to bet on baseball.
Speaker 2: I hear you, I hear you there. But but at
Speaker 2: the same time, I think that his extraordinary play, uh
Speaker 2: is so deserving of being in the Hall that I
Speaker 2: would go with him being in there. Danny's got mixed feelings.
Speaker 2: He's not sure where to land. Maybe we should check
Speaker 2: in with Jimmy and see where he's at. Uh. You know,
Speaker 2: but look at that you got. You got three different
Speaker 2: opinions right here right now. It's almost like Jimmy James
Speaker 2: is going to be the tie breaker. Let's bring him on.
Speaker 2: Let Jimmy James break the time. Jimmy, you're in the
Speaker 2: enviable position of being the tiebreaker. On Pete Rose, Uh,
Speaker 2: Danny is you know a straddling defense be Pete says no.
Speaker 2: I say absolutely, he needs to go in. He's now
Speaker 2: out of purgatory. What's your thoughts?
Speaker 8: I agree with you, Chuck. He needs jim.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sorry. It's just when you got on.
Speaker 3: The on the field is on the field.
Speaker 7: Performance is speaks for it.
Speaker 8: So he should have never been outright banned in my opinion.
Speaker 2: See here's the thing. Here's what would change my opinion though,
Speaker 2: is if there was proof that he threw games for
Speaker 2: his gambling, Yeah he did that.
Speaker 7: If he did that, yes, then he's done just for gambling.
Speaker 3: I never agreed with what they did to him.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know how I felt about it, because
Speaker 2: I think baseball has been a little too pious about
Speaker 2: some people and ignored these other things gambling.
Speaker 4: Baseball doesn't have any rules on him's gambling except betting
Speaker 4: on baseball. He could have bet on anything else in
Speaker 4: the word, and he knew it at the time when
Speaker 4: he did it, he knew what he did is wrong.
Speaker 4: I think he shot himself in the foot his play
Speaker 4: on the field. No question, the man got that, didn't chart.
Speaker 7: Wouldn't you want to bet on the thing.
Speaker 1: That you knew best.
Speaker 4: I mean, I rot if it's going to cost me
Speaker 4: a chance. If he had never gotten caught, if he
Speaker 4: had been caught for gambling, and they said, yeah, but
Speaker 4: he didn't bet on baseball, There would have been no
Speaker 4: questions asked, it would have been said, it would have
Speaker 4: been settled then, and the minimum number of days that
Speaker 4: he had to be out after he retired. He would
Speaker 4: have been in the Hall of Fame on the first
Speaker 4: draft if he did just not bet on baseball.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, I don't know that that again,
Speaker 2: you know which which bad behavior is acceptable to baseball
Speaker 2: and which is not. When you take a look at
Speaker 2: some of the people that are in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: There's gas, but there's not. Gambler is not a bad thing, gamble.
Speaker 4: The baseball does not have a problem with gambling unless
Speaker 4: you bet on baseball US just like any other league.
Speaker 4: If he was betting on football games, I'm just in
Speaker 4: the NFL. Okay, that's the one thing that gets your banned.
Speaker 2: I really when he did it, I heard your point.
Speaker 2: I just don't care about it. And that's the thing.
Speaker 2: It's like to me, they got people in the Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame who intentionally injured and ended other people's careers
Speaker 2: and they're in the Hall of Fame. To me, somebody
Speaker 2: like that maybe needs to be excluded. A guy who
Speaker 2: gambled on baseball. I'm not as upset, but you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, there were guys that literally hurt other individuals,
Speaker 2: that literally took away their ability to make a living,
Speaker 2: that took away their chance and stuff that did you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Plus I mean, you know, drug addicts,
Speaker 2: steroids guys, I mean all kinds of crap that you know,
Speaker 2: and the steroids guys, they cheated as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 7: But yeah, look at look at look at.
Speaker 3: Good Yeah this is pardon me, well, uh, Pete Rose
Speaker 3: did ended that ended play. He ended Ray Fosse's career.
Speaker 3: I mean he charged him in home base. I mean
Speaker 3: it wasn't just going for the base. He took him out,
Speaker 3: He gave I think he he injured him really bad.
Speaker 3: And he was a catcher for the as I remember
Speaker 3: he did that, and I mean that was I mean,
Speaker 3: you can build I'm sure it's on on YouTube. It's
Speaker 3: it's pretty easy to google. It was a brutal, brutal slide.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, but okay, okay, but it is something
Speaker 2: that you can do in that game that that is
Speaker 2: not out of bounds. If somebody standing in the baseline,
Speaker 2: you can run them over. I remember being taught that
Speaker 2: in Little Yeah, you know, if somebody standing in that
Speaker 2: base line, you can slam right on into him, it's fine.
Speaker 2: And they told us that in Little League, for Christ's sake,
Speaker 2: you know, real dangerous because guess what the boys were
Speaker 2: wearing batting helmets back then, and I guess the the
Speaker 2: guy standing in at second base was not or the
Speaker 2: guy at third base or wherever, and if he was,
Speaker 2: you know, made the mistake of being in that baseline,
Speaker 2: you could hit him. If you knock the ball loose,
Speaker 2: you're safe. I mean, I remember being taught that.
Speaker 3: So that's interesting because our whole thing when I played baseball,
Speaker 3: it was to get to the base. That was that
Speaker 3: was the main objective. But I get your point. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I saw. I saw Pete Rose play line. I was
Speaker 3: fortunate that in nineteen seventy two, seventy three, and seventy
Speaker 3: four I went to all three of the My father
Speaker 3: had a business and he bought he had season tickets
Speaker 3: to A's and we got to go to the World Series.
Speaker 3: In seventy two saw the Reds play, and then I
Speaker 3: saw seventy three with.
Speaker 2: The that's the Mets in the A's and seventy three.
Speaker 3: Right, yea seventy four was the seventy four was the
Speaker 3: Mets and as or seventy three, And now I got
Speaker 3: to confuse.
Speaker 2: I got to look.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw Willie May's play his last game. I
Speaker 3: think it was all right, I'm just trying to remember
Speaker 3: which one it was. It was. He played center field,
Speaker 3: you know. Being from the Bay Area, you know, he
Speaker 3: was probably one of my favorite players, even though I
Speaker 3: was warm an A's fan. And unfortunately he made two
Speaker 3: airs in the outfield. He was done physically. He couldn't
Speaker 3: play the game anymore.
Speaker 2: So, right, that's when I in nineteen seventy three, the
Speaker 2: Oakland Athletics the New York Mets, and Willie Mays was
Speaker 2: on that team. Willie Mays was on the Mets. Sorry,
Speaker 2: go ahead, made.
Speaker 3: Two hours in outfield and he didn't play. He didn't play. Sentence. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was the first he was game one.
Speaker 2: Okay. Well, here's the thing, if I remember right, they
Speaker 2: returned him to the Giants, and he actually finished his
Speaker 2: career with the Giants after that, but he was with
Speaker 2: the Mets in seventy three.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he was now the interesting with Willy May's
Speaker 3: you know, he ended up, you know, retiring back in
Speaker 3: the Bay Area. That all through until he passed, he visited.
Speaker 3: He constantly visited children's hospitals, signed in baseballs. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, no fanfare. It was just well known until
Speaker 3: he couldn't do it anymore. And he was probably sending
Speaker 3: baseballs to sick kids that never knew who he was.
Speaker 3: He was. He was really just a I never heard
Speaker 3: a bad word about him, you know, his behavior. He
Speaker 3: was just a nice guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, they let him retire in a Giants uniform.
Speaker 2: But here's a funny fact. According to what I see
Speaker 2: on MLB dot com, Willie May has played his final
Speaker 2: season with the nineteen seventy three Mets, and according to this,
Speaker 2: with the score tied at six in the top of
Speaker 2: the twelfth inning in Game two of the World Series
Speaker 2: against the Athletics, May singled up the middle.
Speaker 3: So oh really, I don't remember that that. I don't remember.
Speaker 3: I just remember he got full well, plus I was
Speaker 3: pretty young then, But I do remember that when he
Speaker 3: made the two maybe because maybe they put him in
Speaker 3: there as a designated his it R. Because I don't
Speaker 3: remember him playing in the outfield after that. After those
Speaker 3: two errors, so, yeah, that's interesting that I don't recall that.
Speaker 3: Thank you for sharing with that with me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: The only reason why I know anything about it is
Speaker 2: because and why I had to go look up the
Speaker 2: facts just to clarify what I had, is because I
Speaker 2: used to collect baseball cards and I was really really
Speaker 2: happy to get myself on nineteen seventy four because you
Speaker 2: get the cards the next year from the season before
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy four. Willie May's in the New York Mets uniform.
Speaker 2: So and I collected Mets cards, you know, mainly I
Speaker 2: collected New York Mets and Nolan Ryan, So that was me.
Speaker 3: You still have Do you still have those baseball cards?
Speaker 2: I wish, I wish I did, But you know, do
Speaker 2: you know I have.
Speaker 3: A couple of shoe boxes of baseball cards with seventies
Speaker 3: nice I'm almost scared to look at it. I told
Speaker 3: my son, I go, if I go, they're yours or
Speaker 3: to your kids, see unless some of the else claims it.
Speaker 3: But I'm almost scared to look at I'm sure there's
Speaker 3: some some pretty valuable cards in there.
Speaker 2: Well, if you ever want to part with the ones
Speaker 2: that are probably not that valuable and you want to
Speaker 2: send me some New York Mets cards, I'll take them
Speaker 2: because I would.
Speaker 3: Love to if I go, If I go, if I
Speaker 3: get a chance to go through them, I'll do that
Speaker 3: for you. But I I can't guarantee because I'm usually
Speaker 3: busy with a lot of other stuff. But it was yeah,
Speaker 3: but if there's something.
Speaker 7: I don't have many baseball cards, but the ones I
Speaker 7: do got are pretty gosh term good.
Speaker 3: I used to have autograph what I got an? I
Speaker 3: got an.
Speaker 7: Autographed Mickey Mantle, an autograph jo Oh, and the Mickey
Speaker 7: Mantle one is from when he was injured in the
Speaker 7: and the uh, when they were trying to get the
Speaker 7: most home runs. That's the only reason he actually signed it,
Speaker 7: and he signed it sideways. Usually he got so many
Speaker 7: requests that they used auto.
Speaker 3: Pen like Joe Biden.
Speaker 7: Nice, but just because he happened to be injured, he
Speaker 7: was actually signing us autos.
Speaker 2: Nice all that nice. I never had a good signed
Speaker 2: anything except uh. I mean, I had a Nolan Ryan's signature,
Speaker 2: but I wasn't sure if it was real because where
Speaker 2: I bought it from. But I had lots of cards
Speaker 2: I had. I had a beat up version of everything
Speaker 2: except Ryan's rookie card pretty much. Uh so, and he
Speaker 2: started with the Mets, by the way.
Speaker 3: So right now, you're you're a big fan of Nolan Ryan, Yep,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I've got myself in so much trouble,
Speaker 3: and it's just in that I could be wrong because
Speaker 3: I have no proof that I have made this sumption
Speaker 3: that he made have been the first steroid player. For
Speaker 3: his longevity of his career, I'm not saying he was
Speaker 3: great at once, but for him, the way he pitched,
Speaker 3: and I'm looking at pictures today, it just seems like
Speaker 3: I've had people really get upset with me saying that that.
Speaker 3: I'm just got a sneaky feeling that you may have
Speaker 3: been on the first Well, if he was.
Speaker 2: I got to tell you that. I mean, for the
Speaker 2: most part, his longevity is what he had. He wasn't
Speaker 2: that much above a five hundred pitcher, even though he
Speaker 2: struck out a lot of people, right, And I mean
Speaker 2: so he wasn't superman, but he threw hard, and he
Speaker 2: threw hard initially even with the Mets. You can see
Speaker 2: him in the sixty nine World Series. If you ever
Speaker 2: get a chance to look at the actual games. You
Speaker 2: can see him come out of the bullpen in the
Speaker 2: sixty nine series, and back then, even as a kid,
Speaker 2: he was throwing you know, one hundred and two miles
Speaker 2: an hour. I mean, just nasty. He and he did
Speaker 2: that all the way up into his forties. But by
Speaker 2: the time he retired, you know, I don't know, you
Speaker 2: could be right. I'm not saying you're.
Speaker 3: Around career, but I've just been for the recovery. That's
Speaker 3: what makes sense to me. I'm just saying that I
Speaker 3: just don't see guys last that much. Hummer set through.
Speaker 3: But you know, I remember that sixty eight or sixty
Speaker 3: was it sixty eight Miracle Mets or was it sixty
Speaker 3: nine sixty nine? It was sixty nine because I remember
Speaker 3: that series because I was up in I was at
Speaker 3: my grandparents up didn't walk the state of Washington, and
Speaker 3: my grandfather was a big baseball fan, and I remember
Speaker 3: they were called the Miracle Mets, and it was because
Speaker 3: they were a new franchise, weren't they at that point.
Speaker 2: They were established in sixty two, and they proceeded to
Speaker 2: have like the worst couple of seasons ever out of
Speaker 2: the gate. They were horrible and you know, I mean
Speaker 2: when your catcher, they had a catcher literally named Chuo
Speaker 2: Chu Coleman. I mean, you know, Casey Stangle managed him
Speaker 2: at one point, and that was interesting. And they ended
Speaker 2: up with a lot of star players, sure, but it's
Speaker 2: just they ended up with this incredible pitching, you know,
Speaker 2: group of pitchers there in sixty nine. Like I said,
Speaker 2: Nolan Ryan's coming out of the pen, Jerry Kousman is
Speaker 2: with him. I think still Tom Seaver was there, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean you're talking about. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: it's a hell of a it's a hell of an
Speaker 2: inch and they're all rookies, they're all young guys at
Speaker 2: that point, and that's how they were able to pull
Speaker 2: that one off.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I've always found sometimes with baseball, especially when it
Speaker 3: comes back to the World Series, sometimes it's like a
Speaker 3: team just gets hot, you know, a pitcher gets hot.
Speaker 3: And I remember the A's they seem like they were
Speaker 3: unbeatable and it was Earl Horstire's. You just tore them,
Speaker 3: uh you know, Riot team for three games. I mean
Speaker 3: you just couldn't hit off of them, you know, and
Speaker 3: you know it was this career long lasting No, you
Speaker 3: just hit everything.
Speaker 2: Like lightning in the bottle, you know, you just hit everything,
Speaker 2: or or you have somebody like you know, the New
Speaker 2: York Yankees constantly buy pennance and occasionally somebody like Ted
Speaker 2: Turner steps up and runs the Braves out there and
Speaker 2: creates a great team temporarily, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because Ted Turner put the money in. That's why I mean,
Speaker 2: he spent the money, he got the players, and they
Speaker 2: just they rolled. They did well in the nineties if
Speaker 2: you remember the Braves.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they did. Yeah. And like me, like I'm a
Speaker 3: you know, suffering as fan. They had a great farm
Speaker 3: system that they didn't tend to get good. They like
Speaker 3: seemed like they got traded to the Yankees.
Speaker 2: Well that was the see, but that's the problem. The
Speaker 2: Yankees would buy everybody's good players. Yeah, you know, they
Speaker 2: always did. And uh that's why I can I never
Speaker 2: had respect for the Yankees, you know, I mean and
Speaker 2: a do you want to talk about the a that
Speaker 2: they bought. Here's a good one, A good example. How
Speaker 2: about Reggie Jackson, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, my father, my father, he hated Richie Jackson
Speaker 3: because he was in right field. Because we'd go to
Speaker 3: the games, and he goes, he goes, he's just such
Speaker 3: a hot dog, because you'd see him dog it and
Speaker 3: drop a routine fly ball one so oft and here
Speaker 3: he is a star and then at the end of
Speaker 3: the game he'd knocked him, you know, just a hilacious
Speaker 3: home run. You know, he just is he just he
Speaker 3: frustrate my father. He goes, I just hate that hot dog.
Speaker 3: He's always hot dog.
Speaker 4: And I remember my dad just.
Speaker 3: He wanted him to hustle the whole time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you want to talk about suffering. Now, I'm
Speaker 2: a suffering Mets fan for decades because every time they
Speaker 2: got a good star player, they always crashed as soon
Speaker 2: as they got to the Mets.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: The worst example, of course, Bobby Bania. Hey, we got
Speaker 2: the guy and they.
Speaker 3: Of Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and they just finished paying off his contract
Speaker 2: like two years ago. Maybe, I mean because they made
Speaker 2: him the highest, the highest offer in baseball history, Bobby Bonilla,
Speaker 2: for God's sake, and is because well, we're either gonna
Speaker 2: get bonds or Banilla, and they didn't get bonds, so
Speaker 2: they took Banilla and they gave him more money than
Speaker 2: anybody ever got. And the guy proceeded to flop, and
Speaker 2: they couldn't. They couldn't pawn him off to anybody else,
Speaker 2: even if they agreed to pay, you know, more than
Speaker 2: half his contract, they couldn't pawn him off to anybody
Speaker 2: else for a couple of years. It was horrible, you know,
Speaker 2: so Bobby Banilla. But I also look, I really remember,
Speaker 2: you know, early on in my baseball days, the Mets
Speaker 2: turned around and got George Foster from the Reds and
Speaker 2: Dave Kingman from the Cubs, right, and it's like, we
Speaker 2: have two brutal home run hitters and they proceeded to
Speaker 2: do crap with the Mets nothing.
Speaker 3: It's like, I remember Cadan, he team had played for
Speaker 3: the Giants. Yeah, I remember he played for the Giants
Speaker 3: for a while too, but.
Speaker 2: He was a Cub star.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, speaking of the Cubs, We're gonna my well,
Speaker 3: next month, my wife and we're gonna go Anniverse. We're
Speaker 3: gonna go to Hawaii. But we're already we just started
Speaker 3: planning a trip. We're gonna go to September. We're gonna
Speaker 3: we're gonna go to Chicago. We're gonna We're actually gonna
Speaker 3: plan it. We're gonna go to a Cubs game and
Speaker 3: a White Sox game, and then that Saturday we're gonna
Speaker 3: end up at Notre Dame Purdue. So we're kind of
Speaker 3: excited about that. Nice, we'll get a baseball in our
Speaker 3: college football. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's too bad. It's too bad you're not traveling
Speaker 2: in November, because I'm going to be in Dallas in November.
Speaker 2: I tell you, come on down there. I'll give you that.
Speaker 2: I'm doing a tour daily Plaza apparently, so uh.
Speaker 3: Well, i'll tell you what check if I can give
Speaker 3: through it sometimes and I'm I'm equally as guilty sometimes.
Speaker 3: Why it's funny with money. But if I've thought about
Speaker 3: maybe coming this year, I can't promise you because we've
Speaker 3: got the two big trips plan. But if I can
Speaker 3: get time off, I might, I might go this When
Speaker 3: is that Friday through Sunday?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the twenty first to the twenty third. Yep.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well I'll well look and I'll promise I'll do
Speaker 3: something to help you out for your to get you
Speaker 3: going there. But I can't promise I can be out there,
Speaker 3: but maybe maybe if something falls right.
Speaker 2: Hey, I have at Hey, Look, I appreciate either way
Speaker 2: because The only thing I don't have said is how
Speaker 2: I'm going to feed myself over the weekend.
Speaker 3: But other than that, okay, well i'll make I'll make
Speaker 3: sure you got something to help you out.
Speaker 2: Excellent, man. I appreciate that, But you know what, I'd
Speaker 2: appreciate it even more if you were there in person.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what if you do show up, But
Speaker 2: I promise you this, if you show up, I'll give you.
Speaker 2: I'll give you some merch. If you show up literally
Speaker 2: an merch.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't need it. I probably really enjoy
Speaker 3: it too. Or daily plous. I've been there before, and
Speaker 3: like I said, you have some friends. They just took
Speaker 3: a they're big baseball fans. He's from Boston and she's
Speaker 3: from LA so she's an Angels fan. He's a Red
Speaker 3: Sox fan. There's some of our best friends. They are
Speaker 3: school teachers, just dying the wall. Good people.
Speaker 2: But we're.
Speaker 3: Like I said before, in the past, my wife and
Speaker 3: I were in peer bid dog breed showing and we
Speaker 3: got them. We kind of mentored them, but we were
Speaker 3: watching their dog. If they went they went to see
Speaker 3: two games. They okay, they've got a goal to see
Speaker 3: all that my wife is. I got her interested in
Speaker 3: wanting to go to ball games, so gotcha.
Speaker 2: Well, look, if you go, if you go to Dealey Plaza, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you a little advice here, don't go
Speaker 2: after dark, first of all. But secondly, if you're gonna
Speaker 2: go there, I would suggest, and you're there that weekend,
Speaker 2: you go there at twelve thirty or at least, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe eleven thirty something like that, get there a little
Speaker 2: early on the twenty second because they do the moment
Speaker 2: of silence and it's the whole thing. I'm not necessarily
Speaker 2: thrilled with all the people that are there, but it
Speaker 2: is something to see. And last year was that weird
Speaker 2: situation where the q on people stop traffic. But anyway, Uh,
Speaker 2: it's a it's a weird thing to see. And they
Speaker 2: do always, you know, Honor, that's you know, the exact
Speaker 2: time and day when things happened. And uh, but if
Speaker 2: you go there at night, if you ever see again
Speaker 2: that that little video I did with h with me
Speaker 2: and Swanson going into Daley Plaza like late at night
Speaker 2: and uh, like it's it's dark and this guy starts
Speaker 2: rambling at us, and uh and and Swanson winds up
Speaker 2: having to give him money because he was like, they
Speaker 2: all want money if you if they give you an
Speaker 2: explanation of stuff, whether you want it or not. So
Speaker 2: it's like you gotta shoo him away. But it's hilarious
Speaker 2: because I get it.
Speaker 8: I don't have to be to boys.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be there November. Well they am.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, no pm pm in
Speaker 2: the afternoon, right there in the afternoon, not not am,
Speaker 2: not in the middle of the night. What are you crazy?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: I will go that night, and.
Speaker 3: I'd rather go.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna observe it at night and there's no one
Speaker 7: house around except crazy people.
Speaker 2: Well, if you want to go, I'll go with you
Speaker 2: if you want. But but I'm just telling you, if
Speaker 2: you're going there with like you know, people that that
Speaker 2: you care about, don't go at night. But I'll go.
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 3: I have a lot of experience at night by myself
Speaker 3: with the with the with the crazy people, so that's
Speaker 3: that's not a problem with me at all. I can
Speaker 3: handle myself.
Speaker 2: So I was nuts. I was trying to I had
Speaker 2: the dumb idea like, hey, let's film you know the
Speaker 2: way the plaza looks with the lights at night and
Speaker 2: all that, and you know, just for part of my video.
Speaker 2: And this guy just kind of accosted me in Swanson
Speaker 2: while we were out there. Was too funny. And that's
Speaker 2: that's where the graphic comes up and says, I think
Speaker 2: we found the uh, the president of the Judy Baker
Speaker 2: fan club here.
Speaker 3: I got a question when you went Deeley Platz and
Speaker 3: when I kind of pulled in there, and I was
Speaker 3: it was years ago, and you know, seeing all the
Speaker 3: pictures and study, I'm not anywhere as knowledgeable as you guys,
Speaker 3: but I've read a lot of books and I've been
Speaker 3: very fascinated as a subject. Wasn't it kind of surreal
Speaker 3: when you kind of first went in there and just
Speaker 3: saw everything because of all the film, It's like wow,
Speaker 3: it just kind of like it like overwhelmed you. Did
Speaker 3: you get any feelings like that?
Speaker 2: You know, I had like, yeah, of course, I'm familiar
Speaker 2: with this. And everybody says, oh, it's amazing how small
Speaker 2: it is. It is kind of interesting how small it is.
Speaker 2: But the weirdest thing is that you realize that when
Speaker 2: they're talking about, you know, the Grassy Knoll and all
Speaker 2: this stuff, and like there's this one area which is
Speaker 2: just basically an island between a couple of dades where
Speaker 2: people were standing, where Mary Mormon was standing and where
Speaker 2: you know, certain people claim they were standing, and Charles
Speaker 2: brem was and all that, and it's like you look
Speaker 2: at that and you go, this is just people that
Speaker 2: happened to go on the little island in between traffic,
Speaker 2: that just happened to be there at that moment. It's
Speaker 2: kind of weird. And I'll tell you the only other
Speaker 2: strange thing is when I'm standing on top of the
Speaker 2: railroad bridge, because I went and climbed up with Swanson
Speaker 2: and we went up and around and we're looking down
Speaker 2: at it and going, man, it would have been so
Speaker 2: easy to knock the turn out of the equation, like
Speaker 2: that whole turn that slowed down the limo and did
Speaker 2: all that crap and brought the car, you know, supposedly
Speaker 2: close to the sniper's nest and everything. The Secret Service
Speaker 2: could have done five different things to not have that
Speaker 2: be a problem, and they didn't, right, And that's the
Speaker 2: only thing that kind of struck me is standing on
Speaker 2: the railroad bridge. And that's when, as you know, I
Speaker 2: said it to Swanson. I started saying it, and he
Speaker 2: pulled out his camcorder. And that's again part of what's
Speaker 2: in that little film is he's like, say that, keep
Speaker 2: saying that, keep talking about that, and I'm like, well
Speaker 2: look at it. You know, it's like it's very simple. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, and that's when we were on top of
Speaker 2: a railroad bridge. Sorry good, Yeah.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: That's always been my biggest thing with the whole Why
Speaker 3: they haven't released all these files, isn't that, basically, I mean,
Speaker 3: just kind of obvious. You know, whatever secrets they have
Speaker 3: is one thing. But are they like, isn't it cya
Speaker 3: people are just covering all their faux pause of like
Speaker 3: while they screwed up X, Y and Z. Isn't that
Speaker 3: what a lot of this is.
Speaker 2: Wells sense, that's certainly part of it, and that's certainly
Speaker 2: part of how they sold. Part of the cover up
Speaker 2: for sure, you know, because if you tell a guy
Speaker 2: who was involved in the Advanced Team, hey, we screwed
Speaker 2: up here and we need to you know, close ranks
Speaker 2: and not make it look like we screwed up, I
Speaker 2: can see somebody going, you know what, I've worked my
Speaker 2: whole life and whatever, my retirements riding on this. I
Speaker 2: want to make sure I don't lose it. And yeah,
Speaker 2: I could see guys doing that who weren't you know,
Speaker 2: in on anything. But just want to make sure that
Speaker 2: nothing gets out so that more blame can't be pointed,
Speaker 2: you know, right, I see that.
Speaker 7: Okay, I got a question about I got a question
Speaker 7: about Dallas nowteen sixty three. Everyone makes a big deal
Speaker 7: out of the mayor's being.
Speaker 3: That Compel's brother.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: My understanding is back then the office of mayor was honorary.
Speaker 8: So he just basically like carried big scissors. Is that true?
Speaker 7: Or did he ask some kind of pull or what
Speaker 7: was his I mean, all I really know about the
Speaker 7: guys who smoked.
Speaker 3: A lot on TV.
Speaker 2: Well, I you know, I don't know how honorary mayoral
Speaker 2: titles and the responsibilities have changed over the years. I'd
Speaker 2: have to look into that a little more. But I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure he had some power. I don't think he
Speaker 2: was just, you know, a completely ceremonial figurehead. But I
Speaker 2: don't know how much power the mayor of Dallas had
Speaker 2: back then. Dallas was not the same as it was
Speaker 2: then exactly.
Speaker 16: You know, but they were I just mostly remembered the
Speaker 16: guy being on CBS, so just changed smokeing like crazy.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, a Dallas And I tell you, but it's
Speaker 2: also weird. Just you know, again I point this out,
Speaker 2: but I was on my way to the Greyhound station,
Speaker 2: uh when in twenty seventeen and I look up, I
Speaker 2: stopped to light a cigarette. I look up and I
Speaker 2: realize I'm standing, you know, just half a block away
Speaker 2: from the Greyhound station or whatever, and this huge building that's,
Speaker 2: you know there that I'm shading myself in is the
Speaker 2: Charles Cabell Cia Buildings, you know. And I'm just like, yeah, bizarre.
Speaker 2: And I was like, huh, well, you know, that's one
Speaker 2: way to have a landmark. And Jack Jack Ruby, one
Speaker 2: of Jack Ruby' strip clubs is now like the AT
Speaker 2: and T office for the regional office for AT and T.
Speaker 2: But okay, you know, things changed great.
Speaker 3: Just a couple of years ago.
Speaker 7: They were poured down the curse. So I can't believe
Speaker 7: that they even allowed that.
Speaker 3: How can that be legal?
Speaker 7: Shouldn't that be like a historical landmark like for a theater.
Speaker 2: But you would think, well you would think, but they also,
Speaker 2: like I told you, the Colony Club or whatever, the
Speaker 2: other club that was Jack Ruby's is the AT and
Speaker 2: T office, And I smoked weed in the parking in
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. I was smoking weed in the parking lot
Speaker 2: of the AT and T office in twenty seventeen, looking
Speaker 2: around at where where it was supposed to be, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, hmm, this is interesting too.
Speaker 3: But anyway, suck are you I'm just sis.
Speaker 7: Are you sure it was AT and T?
Speaker 3: Or was it ai T? No, it's very serious. No.
Speaker 2: It was the logo, the corporate logo and all that
Speaker 2: was in bright lights on the building. Okay, yeah, eighteen.
Speaker 3: I was just curious.
Speaker 2: You know that blue and white logo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like world logo. Deal looks kind of like
Speaker 1: Earth or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what that thing. Anyways, guys, we're almost
Speaker 2: out of time, so I want to give each of
Speaker 2: you a chance to like give a final word here
Speaker 2: for the week. So go ahead, Jimmy's and you were
Speaker 2: the first one to call in.
Speaker 7: Oh my goodness, good heavens. Shout out to everyone who listened.
Speaker 7: And I wish you'd have called in and said something
Speaker 7: or something is Aaron and.
Speaker 2: Uncle hum, Yes, Aaron is coming up next. That's why
Speaker 2: I got to get tight on the time. So thanks Jimmy,
Speaker 2: thanks for calling in. Appreciate you, and yeah, I wish
Speaker 2: more people would call into Danny your final word for
Speaker 2: the week.
Speaker 3: Okay from the Sermon on the Mouth in the Gospel
Speaker 3: of Matthew, Blessed of the peacemakers, they'll be called the
Speaker 3: children of God. I'm out. Thank you for letting me participate.
Speaker 2: Thank you Danny, and amen, by the way, be Pete,
Speaker 2: you got to find a word for the week.
Speaker 4: Well, just for a thank everybody for letting us get
Speaker 4: to another week. Thanks to Jimmy and Danny for calling in.
Speaker 4: And yeah than that, just go to em hit the domain,
Speaker 4: but do which can and then that we're looking forward
Speaker 4: to doing it next week.
Speaker 2: Yep, same here, And look, I'm gonna keep doing this
Speaker 2: as long as we can, and uh, when we change,
Speaker 2: we'll let you know as soon as we can and
Speaker 2: check out what's going on on X and all that.
Speaker 2: We'll let you know as soon as possible, uh, if
Speaker 2: the number changes or whatever. But we're gonna try and
Speaker 2: keep it the same. Okay, So until then, what is
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Speaker 2: you know, generally survive, but but I need to buy
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Speaker 2: to expand the network, not contract it, but we'll see
Speaker 2: what happens. Anyway, Thank you,