Speaker 1: Off a weekend that has seen Keith Sean Davis become
a world champion. It has seen what is this an
American and a main event contender fight get a split
decision on British soil. Yeah it happened. It is also
in Arnold Barboza. It is also seen Oscar Duarte get
a knockout. We're ready to recap all of these fights
go over, some news go over, some nostalgia and much more.
It is the Fight Freaks Unite Recap podcast. I am
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are better. You are better. You're on the mend and
we had some good action this weekend that we're going
to go over. So how are things as we come
off the weekend here and head into a new week.
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but if I had a play today i'd be able
to play.
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your way, previewing going into the weekend and recapping like
this coming off the weekend. I will say this, I'm
looking forward to talking about all the action, but Rayphael,
the best fights plural of the weekend were the first
nine seconds of USA Canada hockey, which they dropped the
gloves at.
Speaker 2: The opening face off.
Speaker 1: And I know you don't pay attention to hockey, but
this is a big deal in Canada where they hate
US right now and they booed the national anthem. This
was riveting stuff Big Dan where there were three separate
square offs in the first nine seconds of the game
with short penalties. I think on the first fight, the
Canadian wonted over one of the Kachuck brothers. Keith Kuchuk's
sons are outstanding hockey players.
Speaker 2: Now I'm officially getting old.
Speaker 1: But Matthew Kulchuk, the second brother, he won the fight
with the Canadian who is his teammate, Raypiel. Get a
load of this. They are teammates on the Florida Panthers,
all right. The first fight happens on the opening face off.
They're on the bench and Matthew Kuchuk is looking at
his teammate who's playing for Canada. He goes Benny, the
nickname of Sam Bennett, you and me right now, and
they both jumped over the ice and on the next
putt drop they fought and.
Speaker 3: Okay, and then a.
Speaker 2: Another fight happened right after that that.
Speaker 1: This was amazing in the US won the hockey game,
but I just thought I would share. The internet has
been a blaze with that opening part of that international
series that they're playing instead of the NHL loll Star Game.
I just thought I would share that some outstanding fight
action not just limited to a boxing ring. So there
you go. With the hockey. We acknowledge that we acknowledge
any good fisticuffs here, but we particularly focus on this
sweet science and let's do that, shall we. Let's recap
the ESPN top rank card in the main event where
Kishan Davis did in fact, when the WBO lightweight title
with booming shots to the body, including one that Dennis
Berenschek could not get up from in the end, and
Keishawan gets the ko win gets the title.
Speaker 2: All right, your thoughts go ahead.
Speaker 3: Not a surprise whatsoever. I always felt going into this
fight TJ that he was going to dominate the fight.
The only question was was he going to go the
route with a experienced guy with a great amateur background
or is it to get a gat him out of there?
And turned out he got him out of there with
the body punches and they were just devastating. Was the
sloppy kind of fight, not really so much because of Kishan,
but Branchick was bouncing in and out, was kind of
all over the place. Made for a little bit of
a mess. Not a lot of punches landed from either
of either of the guys. Branchik never landed in my estimation,
through the three plus rounds, you know, any legitimate, actual
noticeable punch of consequence Kishan, though, if you looked at
the I looked at the comy box, he landed. He
was credited with landing six body punches in the fight
in four rounds, four of them scored. Two of them
rather score knockdowns. He had him on the deck earlier
in the fight, and then he put him away with
a nice shot right to the to the liver area,
and it was all she wrote. He was on his knees.
I mean, I thought a star was born. I've been
saying for the last while, ever since he got the
no contest because he failed the marijuana test. And then
he basically I don't know if he had a moment
of clarity or you know, had a heart to heart
with Urtar, talk with himself, whatever the case may be,
he decided that he's not gonna smoke weed anymore. And
apparently he's been keeping true to that, and it's I
think it's been a revelation he was getting by on
his natural ability. Not to say he wasn't putting in
the work, but he was getting by on you know
what he had. Now I feel like he's finally reaching
the potential that so many people saw in him coming
out of the Olympics, that he's really becoming not just
a good quality pro, but an elite quality pro.
Speaker 1: We'll get back to the fight in a second, but
how much do you think Terrence Crawford as an influence
as a veteran and Brian McIntyre's a big time trainer,
Trainer of the year caliber trainer every year. How much
do you think that influence has helped him grow up?
If you will and see what.
Speaker 3: We're saying, no question about it. I mean that that
group of guys that they have in that BnB camp
in Omaha absolutely is helpful. I think that his own
decisions to handle his life outside during better is more
important to get all that together. But you can't go
wrong when you've got that group of guys, Brian, Terrence, Crawford,
Red Spikes, the whole team that's in that gym there,
they are together, They've got good chemistry, they know what
they're doing, and Crawford has been a great mentor to him.
I did find it interesting. Not it doesn't mean a
whole lot, but when you think about it, here you
have Keishan Davis. He wins the WBO lightweight title with
Terrence Crawford, you know, his mentor sitting ringside shouting instructions
at him. And the belt that he won was the
same belt that Terrence Crawford won several years ago. That
was his first world title when he went overseas to
the UK and he won that same WBO lightweight title belt,
So kind of keeping in the family. Look, it was.
I mean, I can't say I'm surprised I picked up
Keishawan Davis as the twenty twenty two prospect of the year.
He had had a fantastic amateur career. To me, the
only thing about him was is he gonna keep his
mind straight and do an vision on boxing and put
all the other stuff out of the out of the
out of his mind. Now he's had, you know, and
he's been very open about it. His mental health issues,
which were legit when he was a teenager, staying literally
as a impatient in a in a mental health facility
and having all kinds of issues at home. But he
you know, he seems in a good spot. He's got
a new baby, seems to be in a healthy relationship,
got a good team behind him. Things with top ranker
going well. Things with his promotion and his and his
management and his training team is going well. His brothers
are having success in the pros. His younger brother, Kean
one uh, looked really good in a second round knockout
on the under cart of this fight. So right now
things are going good. You just hope that he can
stay on the even keel and keep doing this thing
because he's got a very, very bright and very lucrative future.
He said to me on our podcast that you reference.
He feels like, at age twenty five, he's got a
ten year window to really make his legacy and his money.
And if he continues to put on performances like that
and have the proper attitude and be in the kind
of shape and and just do what you're supposed to do,
Let your managers manage, let your trainers train, let your
promoters promote, and you do your thing in the gym
and be prepared. This kid is going to go right
to the top.
Speaker 1: And one more real quick he I mean, he had
a fairly easy night at the File. The fight went
a little bit of a distance. How soon do you
think we'll see him? Because here I come back to
the same thing we always talk about. Get him back
in the ring June July something like that. Get him active,
get him back in the ring defending that title. Is
that realistic?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely, I'm very confident in in as long as
he's healthy and knowing how top rank candles their business,
as long as they can, as long as you know
tia Fimo was in a similar situation back a few
years ago when he won a title, but they had
all kinds of issues with him. They don't have those
kind of issues with the with the Kishan team. Everything
seems to be going well, and you know, things can
change on the dime. It's the boxing business. But if
things are going the way they are, I don't have
any doubt in my mind that we'll see Kishan Davis
in the ring probably three times this year. I mean'll
be a beautiful thing if they get him in there
four times, but most likely you are looking at a
time at a spring like summertime, return another fight in
the fall. There's no doubt in my mind, and they
are they look he had the fight prior to the
championship fight at home in Norfolk. He won the title
in New York City. I don't know this. I'm talked
Top Ring about it in particular, but my belief, my
reading the tea leaves sort of knowing how they like
to do their business. Two things. A first defense in Norfolk,
obviously that makes more sense. They'll sell out again, It'll
be a larger gate. He'll have a great homecoming. And
then in this I do know for a fact because
I have talked to Top Ranking about this. Keishaan Davis
is from Norfolk Fridging. It's about a three hour three
and a half hour drive from the Washington DC area
where I live. Washington, d C. Is an extraordinarily underrated
and underutilized boxing city. They have great fans here. They're
supportive when you bring a real fight. They're especially supportive
of black fighters. I've seen this for twenty five years
of living here. I've been to many fights in the district,
in and around the region, and Top Rank has their
eye on Washington, d C. As a place to make
a second home for Kishon Davis, where they have folks
that will make the trip from Norfolk to the to
the city. There's good arenas here. It's got a great
boxing scene, got good gyms. They have a young fighter
on their roster also who's from Alexandria, Virginia, which is
right outside of Washington. It's like the next down over
from where I live, which is where Troy Issley, the
United States Olympian who was Kishon's teammate, is from. He's
a rising, undefeated middleweight contender. And they've got other fighters
that they could populate that card with, whether it's Kishon's brother,
his older brother or his younger brother, and just others
on the roster. And Abdullah Mason would go well in
the Washington to DC area fight. He looked good on
the undercart. My point is there's gonna be a game
plan for Kishon Davis. He's going to be a superstar
if he keeps doing what he's able to do and
putting all the negativity about what happened with Dray stuff
that went on in New York. We don't have to
rehash the nonsense about the package that got sent to
his room and all that. He dealt with that like
a pro put it out of his mind and went
in there and just kicked ass. Basically, that's the bottom line.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again we didn't talk about it on the preview.
I didn't even really know until I saw the stuff
in and around the press. We don't have to go
on and on about it. But obviously there's something didn't
add up on who delivered this. Because Keyshan's team believes
it's a member of Baron Chick's team that delivered it.
It seems to me if it's a delivery that a
hotel person would have been doing that. That's the only
thing that didn't make sense to Metel.
Speaker 3: So it's not like they couldn't have figured out where
Kishan's room was. Well, I'm just saying it's not out
of the realm.
Speaker 1: But he would have access to his room from Baronchick's
team to get in the room and put something in there.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was in the room. I
thought it was me outside the room.
Speaker 1: I thought I thought it was left in the room
as well last night, And they have a social media
photo of it. And again the whole racial trope about
bananas and water, water melons and all of that was what.
Speaker 2: Was in it. So Hey, just make.
Speaker 1: I mean it makes it makes you more motivated to
beat the crap out of you, to do things.
Speaker 3: Like exactly, and that's pretty much what he did, because yes,
you know, that's uh, that's that for for a for
a messy kind of fight that they had. That was
the domination Tishaw was saying before the fight, even before
all the nonsense happened with him getting pushed it the
weigh and in the thing you mentioned about the delivery,
he was saying, I want to knock him out in
the first round. Okay, didn't get him in a round one,
but he basically did everything else and got him out
of there at four and then and then absolutely one
sided ask kicking, So yes, sure, Baronchek's uh, you know, brief.
Speaker 2: The brief reign is over.
Speaker 1: Davis wins it with the the fourth round body shot,
and we looked for him soon.
Speaker 3: I can't expect we're gonna be talking about Keishaan Davis
down the road for a very long time.
Speaker 2: A bunch all right on the undercart.
Speaker 1: Immediately before the co features saw Xander Zaiyez get his
t KO of the German opponent who was tough, slow
as Spomer Womer actually hurt him. Briefly, Flash kind of
buzzed him with a shot, but eventually Zaias wore him down,
got the stoppage. That's me saying that give me a little,
give me a little recap here on the recop pod.
Speaker 3: Would you say, yeah, I thought he's listening. Xander looked good.
I mean I've been waiting for him to show something.
I mean not that he hasn't been impressed, because he's
won most of his fights very easily. He doesn't really
lose rounds, hasn't been knocked down. But to me, the
thing I liked about it was that, you know, he
he's never shown like the most massive power, but he
did break the guy down. He's you know, he's still
only twenty two, so I still feel like he's not
gotten quite the full level of the man strength that
they talk about in boxing, and it's coming at this point.
It's getting there. And uh, like you said, he took
a rugged, durable guy like Spoelmer. Uh, you know he
was older obviously, but you know, had Roy Jones in
his corner. I had never been stopped to tell Xander
took care of him, and uh, he looked good. It
put the punches together. He whatever the issues you were,
I know what you're talking about. There was that one
moment where it looked like he got cracked really real,
real good, and he.
Speaker 2: Had hit on the chin and buckled a little bit.
Speaker 3: But you want to see a young fighter like that,
you know, you never want to find out because hopefully
you never get hit, but if you do get tagged,
the idea is how did you react? He reacted like
you're supposed to react. He got through it. It was brief,
he didn't cause him a lot of trouble, and he
came back swinging and that to me, so some people
may view it as a negative that he got hit.
I looked at it as a positive because, okay, boxing,
you're going to get hit. You showed that you've got
the ability to take that kind of punch, brush it
off and come back and keep kicking ass. And the
fact he was able to stop Spoemer was impressive to
me because, like I said, does Xander for all the
positive things I would like to I could say about him,
the big time punching power isn't really one of those things.
And this was not a devastating, like one punch knockout.
But it was he had his man hurt, he kept
his gas pedal, he kept the foot on the gas pedal,
and he forced he really forced the referee, Charlie Fitch
to stop to fight. I thought it was a great
stoppage from that referee. Spoember was done and now I'd
like to see his step up a little bit to
an actual like top Tennis one hundred and fifty four pounder.
Spumer was not that guy. He was probably the best
guy that he fought so far. But I feel like
that there's definitely another level that Xanderkins fight at. And
you know, he again, he's not done anything wrong so
far as a pro. He's still undefeated, got good looking style,
in great shape, works his ass off, and you know,
I've been following him feels like forever because he turned
pro at seventeen.
Speaker 1: All right. Rest of the card video Mel Nicky as
somebody we were talking about that might fight Xander's Eyez.
They actually fought at middleweight, he and Connor Coyle. It's
ruled a draw. Let's talk about that. And then what
else from an interesting undercard that did have Abdullah Mason
on it. It had Rohan Polanco not to be confused
with Roman Polanski I like to make you smile from
the bet Us Show and it had Jared Anderson. What
what in the Marcus of Queensberry was that? All right,
so give me some recaps. Start with mel nick and
then we'll rapidly go through.
Speaker 3: Okay, So, as you mentioned, this was Milnikey who had
been fighting as a junior middleweight. This was him in
his first middleweight fight against Connor Coyle, undefeated Irish fighter
and Connor Coyle fought a really good fight and a
fight where Milnicky was the clear favorite going in. It
just didn't really look that good to me. I mean,
first of all, First things first, it was a fun
fight to watch, putting aside where you think these two
fighters are in their careers, or where they're going or
what their level is, just as entertainment, man, it was
a good fight. They were going after each other and
showed good hearts and all credit to them for making
an entertaining fight. But in terms of their longer range
where they can go in the sport, I mean, I
have nothing bad to say about Vito milnike the person whatsoever,
but the amount of hype that this kid has gotten
for such little that he has delivered in terms of
actual skills and ability, in my opinion, is very stark.
He has been hyped up before Top Rank got a
hold of him and started hyping up. It was the
same old song with PBC. And you know, maybe I
don't know what I'm looking at, but I don't see it,
my friend.
Speaker 1: I see a guy that I have been with you
for going on three years on this podcast and you've
said it probably three or four times before now, and
you said it going into this fight.
Speaker 2: I don't see it.
Speaker 1: And this only, I think reinforced it for you just
just said that he could not decisively win here over
Connor Coyle.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So again, you know, if he keeps working hard
and maybe he can improve and this and that, I
don't certainly would be happy to see him be very successful.
Connor Coyle too, for that matter. Veto Now is a
regional area fighter who gets on these types of cards
because he does have a fun style to watch, There's
no doubt about that. And he does sell some tickets
and obviously that's an important factor when you're doing these
types of events. So he brought in a good crowd.
He's from New Jersey, so for him to fight at
a place like the Madison Square Garden Theater, there's gonna
be folks that turn out for him. Maybe they will
do Exander's Eyes fight at some point obviously that would
think that would mean that Xander would probably have to
go up to middle eight, which is probably gonna happen
in the you know, in the not too distant huge anyway.
Or maybe they needed a catchwaight or something like that.
But right now, if you make sanders iis against Vitel Milniky,
to me, that's a mismatch. Anders Ies beats him easily.
So it was a draw. Like I said, good fight,
but I don't I don't really see either one of
these guys developing or moving on to like legit championship
level opposition or winning those types of fights. So that
was the That was the opener of the three fight
main card. But in terms of the rest of the
Undercar top rank, you know, it was the like the
first their first well they did that, they were involved
with the Inaway Show earlier, but this was their first,
you know American show of two thousand and u and
twenty five, and you know what they put on a
lot of their top young guys, So I thought it
was good in terms of guys getting the reps. You mentioned.
Abdulla Mason, we all know is one of the best
prospects I'm boxing. I had a number two on my
list at the end of last year, right behind Moses
tom Of, the excellent nineteen year old British heavyweight. But
Mason keeps doing his thing. He was fighting a solid
guy in Manuel Jaimes and you know, he did his stay.
He took this dude out. I mean it was very
impressive combinations. You know. Mason, you know, still very young fighter.
He hasn't yet even achieved his so called man strength.
He's only twenty years old, DJ and he's already seventeen,
you know, with fifteen knockouts, and he's not fighting complete
fucking stiffs. You know, Manuel Hines is not. I mean,
I'm not telling you he's like a you know, an
elite fighter. But you know what, he went to distance
with Roly Romero in his previous fight Roly Romero. People
wanted to talk about how he's got excellent punching power. Now,
granted that fight was like a nine to one fight
on the scorecards against Roly, but he hung in there
for ten rounds against a guy that people make out
to be a purported puncher, which I don't necessarily agree with,
and Abdulla Mason went in there and absolutely shredded him
and that's a solid win in my book. So that
was one of those undercard fights. And then you look
at the other guys, Well, if you open up the show,
and I'm not saying he's a big prospect, but the
great you know, you're you're, you're man, the grandson, Oh
Muhammad Ali was beaten in the old he was. So
he lost his sixth round decision to Wan Carlos Garrett Junior.
You know what, I was glad to see that the
judges got it right. It was a split decision, but
I thought that Gara was the definite winner, you know,
and they got it right on the money, like a
four to two type of fight.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Look, Nico Ali wash, nice kid, hard worker, obviously got
the great bloodlines and uh and all that. But at
this stage with a couple of losses now against the
level of losses against those types of opponents, you know,
I don't know where he's gonna go in terms of,
you know, to the top level. Now if he wants
to keep on boxing and and uh having fun, enjoying
himself and and uh and fighting these types of fights.
You know, good for him, but uh, you know, I
don't want to say he's a side show, but uh
you know, and I know he having talked to Nico
on a number of occasions. I know just how seriously
he takes his uh, his his job, his professionist training. Uh. Well,
you know, I'm just not sure he's gonna have if
he's got the talent to advance to the next level.
You know, it certainly would be great if he could,
but we'll see. I doubt that I mentioned you about
Keyon Davis. That's the younger brother of Kishan who now
is two and oh he's a hunter. He was probably
he's about at welterweight. He fought like about one hundred
and fifty pounds. He looked good, knocked out a guy
in the second round. You know, he's just getting in
the early stages of his professional experience. We talked about
this also earlier. My favorite prospect of all these guys
is the Dominican welterweight Rohan Planco. Now he moved up
now he's always been fighting like slightly over one forty,
but now he's in he's moved up to the be
a bona fide welterweight. They just they knew he just
couldn't keep making even that lower weight at the low
part of the one forties. He's he looks really good.
He's so strong. He's an Olympian. He's now fifteen, and oh,
he just bludging this guy to death in two rounds.
When I watched the way he throws his right hand,
it's very reminiscent just in the way that he moves
the like if you put the if he put the
video side by side, the way he turns over the
right hand and kind of bludgeons you with it. It's
very reminiscent of the way that that Gloffkin throws the
right hand, a little bit like how Canelo throws the
right hand. I'm not sure it's got that kind of power,
but he's doing damage. He did a guy, Geene Carlos Torres,
who was going into this fight not a bomb by
any stretch, the Puerto Rican fighter, and a guy that
had been on a little bit of a winning streak,
and you know, he just took him apart. He's a
He's a very very brute brute puncher, strong, built like
a like a you know, a brick wall. I mean,
this is a fighter that we're gonna see a lot of.
I think he's going to be a name in the
junior walterweight division. He's very exciting and entertainment value for sure.
You mentioned about Jared Anderson. Are let's talk about that, TEAJ.
Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's get to my goodness, because I have
to confess I did not see this, but I got
an alert from the guy that is doing a great
job as the lead writer on Big Fight Weekend dot com.
The message was what's wrong with Jared Anderson? And I
was out on on Friday night at this point, and
I texted back what happened? He said, the fight is
in the eighth round and he's totally ignoring his corner.
So again, I am aware, I read my Dan Rayfield substack.
I'm aware that he won. But I mean, at this point,
are we now at the stage where Ared Anderson doesn't
care anymore? And this is almost the end?
Speaker 3: All right? TJ? You want to talk about want Jared Anderson?
He was on this undercard and the reason why his
fight was I believe the second fight of the of
the card was they were purposely at top rank understandably.
Two things here, One, no pressure come back from your
knockout loss where you got absolutely obliterated by Martin McCauley
back in August on the Terrence Crawford Majimov card, a
fight that top rank did not want you to take.
But turkeyosh cheek went directly to Jared. He was making
for you know, because he hasn't made huge money in
his carl though He's been making good mid six figures
and was in line to make quite a bit more.
But he took the opportunity. And so on the one hand,
you give him credit because he decided to take the
gamble against perhaps his best interests with his own people,
but you give you give him a good check mark
for having the balls to do it. You give him
a good check mark for showing the heart that he
did and taking the beating from McCully get and drop
three times and keep getting up and coming for more.
So I can't question the man's heart, even if you
want to question his lack of listening to his own
teams that we're looking out for him. But nonetheless, he
got back in the ring against Marius Colias, who was
brought there for one reason and one reason only, to
be a speed bump, to be a bug on the
windshield on his way back to possible relevance. And the
heavyweight division people at top rank purposely hid this fight deep, deep,
deep deep on the undercard to so he could come
back without a lot of pressure, with a lot without
a lot of eyeballs and just let him get it,
you know, take care of his business, getting you know,
back in the groove, away from the spotlight. You didn't
see him doing a lot of interviews before the fight
like he's done for previous fights where he was the
main event, even in his hometown. Uh and and and
the other part of that was quick knockout, get the
mojo back, you know, you know, patch your chest a
little bit, go on there and obliterate a guy. I mean,
that's part of the plan here. And even the old
the people at top rank were like, listen, this fight
shouldn't go more than one, two, three rounds. So if
you were watching ESPN Plus where they were showing these preliminaries,
and you popped it on and you looked at the
screen and you saw, Oh my god, this is in
the sixth round, or you saw this in the eighth
round or the ninth round or the tenth round, You're like,
what the hell is going on? Jared Anderson did not
look like the more offensive minded heavyweight that we have
seen throughout his professional career. He wasn't listening to his corner.
He was out there plotting away. He didn't look like
he was in the best condition compared to what he's
looked in previous fights. And I kept thinking to about
myself after seeing the way he took a beating from
Bacoli and watching this meandering piece of shit performance that
he turned in against just a a D level kind
of opponent, all I could think about, And this may
date me a bit when I first started to cover
boxing for USA Today in two thousand, the red hot
heavyweight of the times in American boxing, who was being
built up by HBO, who was being very, very carefully
handled and moved but put himself in position for a
title shot, was one Michael Grant. Now that may not
be a name that a lot of people recognize if
they're younger listen to our show, but he was the
HBO darling. He had had a bunch of appearances, and
I think a lot of people saw him, even though
he won, get kind of really exposed badly against Andrew Galotta,
who was beating the shit out of him, and then
like Andrew Galotta does quit, and you know, he survived, basically,
and then they rushed them into the title shot against
Lennox Lewis, which was my first ever heavyweight championship fight
as a journalist. It was my first ever official assignment
as the full time boxing writer for USA Today, and
Michael Grant got cleaned out in two rounds and just destroyed.
And I keep thinking when I'm watching the way Jared
reacted to the punches in the Bacoli fight and the
way he looked in this comeback fight, I kept thinking
of Michael Grant because after he fought Lennox Lewis, he
came back and had a series of fights where you know,
maybe he won, but he also ended up obviously losing
at some point too, but just never really look comfortable,
didn't look right, didn't look like he had his head
in it, and you know, ultimately, uh, you know, will
just be you know, a distant memory for those who
follow boxing, and sometimes you might not even remember him.
So the question now is this, but Jared Anderson TJ,
is he going to get his mojo back and reach
the possible potential that so many people saw in him?
Or is he damaged goods both physically and mentally from
the beating. And I keep thinking about the example of this.
It's kind of like when you tug on that thread
on your sock, you know, and you pull it out, Well,
the sock still fits, and it still wears on your foot,
and it may not, but it doesn't get kind of like,
you know, it doesn't get a good grip on your ankle, right,
it doesn't really kind of.
Speaker 1: Starts to yeah, start and then eventually unravels exactly.
Speaker 3: So it's it's you. You can. You can't put Humpty
Dumpty back together again. I guess what I'm trying to say, Well.
Speaker 1: You could, But I again come back to what I
said to the preface. Does he care anymore? And this
didn't look like he cares that much, if at all.
So the first fundamental question is this, what do we
know because you are always in on this and your
constant communication with top rank, do they have several more
fights with him? One more fight with him. Are they
ready to cut bait with him at this point and
just say we tried, you got blasted by Bikoli. This
doesn't look like you care. Good luck, farewell, God bless something.
What do we know?
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know the exact status of the contract,
but I would be rather shocked if, coming off of
the wind as bad as it was, that they're going
to get rid of him, because at the very least,
and this is just the cold hard reality of the business,
he'd still be a commodity as an opponent for somebody.
You know, they still have other they still have a Jagua,
they still have Richard Torres, they still have others, and
there's other companies that always need a heavyweight opponent. So
they're not going to get rid of the guy. Now.
It's going to be up to him if he wants
to put the work in and.
Speaker 2: What it's you if he just says I don't want
to fight.
Speaker 3: Anymore, Yeah, doesn't really want to make money?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, knowing what you know and how.
Speaker 3: I know, No, I know fighters, fighters need money. Jared
Anderson is not a college graduate. It's not like he's
gonna fall back and become you know, some professional or
be a lawyer or be a doctor. You know, he
is going to fight. He's only twenty five years old now.
He has said in the past, which I think turn
a lot of people off because he didn't really seem
like he cared much about boxing, that he was going
to retire at age twenty six. And I guess the
joke today is maybe after that performance, you should consider
retiring at twenty five. But look, I hope good for
him because here's the thing. He's exciting when he was
in the fight with with with Martin Bocoley. He was
exciting in the other fights as well, and you can
never have too many guys, even though they're not going
to be the champion, who make a good heavyweight fight.
And so, you know, Jared just got to figure out
what's up. Does he want to really become take it
more serious than it seemed like he took. Maybe you
just give him a mulligan because there was still some
you know, PTSD after the fight with Boccoli, and this
was the way to kind of shake it off. I
think we got to give guy another fight or two
before he make a true assessment. But the first step
after the loss was not a good one, even though
he did win the fight.
Speaker 1: I think I can pretty well make an assessment he
doesn't care. I don't think he cares, and I don't
know that he's around after this year. I don't know
what else he's gonna do, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 1: You wanted to mention one more fighter, and then I
promise we're moving on to the match Room main event
won by Arnold Barbosa, and we also got to get
to the zone knockout by Oscar Duarte. Two more fight
cards to cover one more fighter, this one meetaus go ahead?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Meeta Lopez de Jesus. As we've discussed before,
he signed with top rank Puerto Rican fighter, young kid Olympian,
the son of the former two division world champion that
was also promoted for most of his career by Top Rank.
That's one. Manuel Lopez also was an Olympian and was
a tremendous puncher and was in some very exciting, very
enthralling fights in his day. But anyway, this was his
son making his professional debut. And let me tell you, TJ,
he looks like his father. He's got like his father,
He's got big shoulders, and he got good punching power,
and he knocked out a guy named Brian Santiago one
and one in the first round. It was fifty nine
seconds and he put him on the canvas and he
was flat on his back, kind of shaking, like he
was almost paralyzed. He got up, his eyes were open,
he sat up, mostly set up, or like three quarters
of the way he set up, but he was just
like an esthetized, like he couldn't move spectacular. Just one
clean shot right on the chin and again this pro debut,
that's sort of what your expectation is. But Top rank
will most likely do what they've done with many young
fighters like that. That will build him up in New
York City. He'll become a Puerto Rican fan favorite, and
we'll see if he's got the goods and if he
can do the kinds of things that his father did.
His father, as it turned out, did not have the
greatest chin in the world, that ended up getting knocked
out a couple of times, and also didn't live the
best lifestyle outside the ring. We'll see if his son
take a step beyond what his father did, because in
his heyday, the dad was a heck of a fighter.
Very popular was the borderline, and some people's views like
on the lower part of a top ten pound per
pound with the way he was beating up guys. So anyway,
so yeah, he turned pro. That was the last fight
of the show prior to the beginning of those three
fights on the main card. But lots of good prospects
on that show, lots of interesting fights and names and
all that. So I enjoyed that one on Friday Night.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we progress in the chronology on the recap
podcast to the match Room main event, which again Jack
Catterall favored over Arnold Barbosa, although it was reasonable Catterall
like a two and a half to one favorite Barbosa
plus money like plus two twenty to win for the
vacant interim WBO title, and you and I both thought
Caterall would get the decision. To Barboza's credit, he fought hard,
he fought well, and as I jokingly said at the
top of the podcast, it's rare, but he got the
win over the main event fighter in England, and kudos
to Arnold Barbosa for it.
Speaker 2: I'm saying that. What are your thoughts on that main event?
Speaker 3: My thoughts are it was a very close fight. All
three just had it one fifteen to one thirteen, seven
rounds to five. Two of them scored it in favor
of Arnold Barboza Junior. One of them scored it in
favor of Jack Catterall. I personally scored it one fifteen
to one thirteen in favor of Catterarell, but I can't complain.
I saw a lot of people had similarly the same score.
It was basically a seven to five fight either way,
and you know, you do. Unfortunately, because we're jaded, we
think that if it's going to be that kind of
a close fight, the hometown guy's gonna get it, and
I score to god. When they were reading the scorers,
the only thing I kept thinking was that last score.
I actually thought it was gonna be one fourteen, one fourteen.
They would have a split rat turned out that the
last score was read was fifteen thirteen and they gave
it to Arnold Barbosa, So you know, credit that Barboza.
He went on the road, no fear, took this fight
without hesitation, and he went over to basically Jack Hetrol's backyard.
Jack Cattrell is from the Manchester area of England. As
if I was at the arena in Manchester and he
ended up getting the decision, it could just as easily
have gone the other way. But to Caterall's credit, he
didn't bitch and moan about it. He's like, look, you know,
close fight, Good for him, congratulations. I hope he goes
on and beats TI of Fimo because obviously by winning
the interim title, he's now the mandatory challenger for t
Fimo Lopez. The WBO has already, prior to this fight,
ordered that the winner and t Femo would have to
fight within one hundred and eighty days. Whether t Fimo
takes the fight or not remains to be seen. Obviously
we've talked about it. He's in the process of doing
a three fight deal with with Turkey al Chic, so
this fight could be in that three fights, or he
could wind up doing something much different. If he does
something different, and then Arnold Barbos will be elevated to
the fall champion now TJ. As far as the actual fight,
phost Yes, close fight. Both guys, you know, they did
their thing. But as I said all along, from the
moment the fight was signed, we said it on the
podcast in the preview. I said it on our bet
Us show on Friday. In the ring, I thought this
would be a pretty pedestrian kind of crappy fight. I
felt like their styles did not mesh whatsoever, and I
feel like I was one hundred percent right. There was
a lot of swinging and missing. There was a precious
little clean punching. Neither guy really was very active. The
punch output was actually rather pathetic. I mean, there was
only one round in the fight where where Regis why
not Regis program where Arnold Barbosa, both of them actually
where they landed more than ten ten or more punches
in a round like it was. It was. It was
hideous in terms.
Speaker 1: They were both. They were both at times cautions. I
thought Barbosa, especially like during the middle rounds, he was
having success with the one two, but then he wouldn't
he wouldn't follow it up. I don't know if overly
cautious is the right word. And Caterall would kind of
hit him with the right jab would occasionally potshot hit him.
I agree with you there was not enough action, but
it was just interesting that Barbosa did enough to get landed.
Speaker 3: His best punch in the fight was landing the straight
left hand when he could find it, but very rarely
were their combinations. Uh. And to clarify the statistic, I
just said, uh, Barbosa landed double digit punches twice in
the round. In the fight, Caterall never landed double digit punches.
That tells you immediately now I'm not you know. Look,
we've discussed in another time. Commy box is not the
end of all be all, But that's a stat that's
worth processing because that tells you the absolute lack of
activity in a twelve round fight.
Speaker 2: They combined with junior welterweights that you would figure would
be punching at a high enough rate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they combined for like one hundred and sixty punches
landed between the two of them for the entire fight.
That is absolutely miserable. So the fight stunk in my opinion,
But there were a few moments of interesting moments where
there was a few nice exchanges, and they certainly fought
hard in the twelfth round. I wish they would have
done that a little bit more throughout the fight. But
for Barbosa it will go down as an absolute classic
because he does accomplish a dream to get a belt.
I mean it's an interim belt for the time being,
and good for him. He got the victory, and it
does set up some interesting things because even if he
doesn't get a fight with tia Fimo Lopez, you know
we're gonna talk about the Oscar Duarte fight next he's
with Golden Boy. He's in that weight class. That's a
possible fight that was discussed by Oscar de la Joya.
There's also the possibility if t Fimo does something other
and it's not say Richards and Hitchins in a unification
fight and he gets elevated and he was talking about
I saw his social media. He was like, I'm interested
in maybe fighting Richardson Hitchins. So you know, Barbosa is
in a hot division. He's going to have some form
of a belt, whether it's interim or the full. Uh,
He's going to be open for other possible fights. Catterall
will be back. I mean, I think at this point,
I mean, no, no disrespect to Jack. It seems like
a real nice guy and it comes to do what
he does, but what he does is not the most
crowd pleasing thing in the world. But he'll go back
and he'll he'll still get some other significant fight LOSSESDJ
his one in a controversy to Taylor.
Speaker 1: Right, he has fans, I mean they were roaring in
that arena, but in terms of being a spectacular fighter,
he's not so.
Speaker 2: By the way, right right.
Speaker 1: But Barbosa gets the win, so he's got more of
the leverage, and that segues us now to late Night,
Saurday Night, the final of the cards and the main
events that we're talking about. And Oscar Duarte did get
the knockout. You and I thought he would get most
everybody thought it was a really good chance he would
get a knockout against the Lane money. Yes, it was well,
but I mean I believed it, You believed it, and
uh And Miguel Midueno again was a late replacement.
Speaker 2: You mentioned Regi's Prograce's name.
Speaker 1: Pro Gray had lost to Catterall previously and was supposed
to be the d'Arte opponent in this fight until he
was out injured about ten days ago. But undaunted, Duarte
looked good. Opposite of what you just talked about. He
was much more active with output of punches and he
put Madueno away with a stop age.
Speaker 3: Again, I said it in the pre in the pref
in the pref fight conversations that I felt like although
other fights were maybe higher profile, certainly Keishawn Davis against
Barentik was higher profile, Caterall against uh Barbosa was higher profile.
But my my strong opinion was that for entertainment value
for action, that Duarte against Maduena would be the fight
of the weekend, and of the three fights that were
the main fights of the weekend, I feel like there's
no gout in my mind. That is the fact you
got two Mexicans who are proud guys who are coming
to fight and not looking to run around. Both guys
could you know, apply pressure and punch up a little bit.
Duarte more than a little bit, and it turned out
to be a heck of a fight. I mean it
was somewhat one sided, you know. The two the judges
had had given Duarte all the rounds except one round,
so he was at fifty nine to fifty five before
the stoppage one another judge, the third judge, had a
fifty eight to fifty six, but Duarte largely was in
total control, mainly based on his on his offensive prowess,
you know, landing clean punches, working them to the body,
and you know, he didn't knock him down with Duena,
but Dueno though it had never been stopped and so on.
I said beforehand, I felt like this was an excellent
save by Golden Boy to get Mdueno on short notice,
and that I felt like in the ring it would
be a better fight entertainment wise than had it been Program,
even though Program obviously he's got the higher profile, has
the bigger name, has won the title two different times.
But Midueno came to fight. Yes, he was coming off
of a decision loss, really a one sided decision loss
to Keishan Davis, but the style of Duarte compared to
Keishaan's totally different. So it made for a good fight.
And you know what Duarte did, in fact become the
first fighter to stop him. And it was just a
series of really clean shots, a couple of good right
hands up top, and Thomas Taylor, who was the referee,
I thought, intervened at the exact perfect time. He's really
shown himself over these last few years to really be
one of, if not d premiere, a big time referee
in the sport of boxing, and that was a perfect stoppage,
big win for Duarte. Don't don't under undersell it. I
mean this was his first time in the main event
as the A side. Yes, he was the main event
when he fought Ryan Garcia in his loss that happened
a couple of years ago. But he goes good. Duarte
is going to be dangerous guy against a lot of
these one hundred and forty pounders.
Speaker 1: All right. Elsewhere on the undercard, super middleweight Darius Fulham
and welterweight Kenneth SAMs. What else from the Golden Boy
Anaheim undercard here?
Speaker 2: Anything else?
Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned a couple of guys. Darius Fulgeum is
one of their top prospects of super middlewight. He runs
his record fourteen and oh look good exciting that fight.
You know, we was just really really beating up on
Winford Harris Junior, really just pummeling him. Could have probably
been stopped at any time, but Harris did show a
lot of heart, So good for him on that. But
Folsom is a guy to keep an eye in. I mean,
he fights in a good weight class. He's twenty eight
years old, he's fourteen and oh mostly by knockout twelve
knockouts and good personality, good punching power, real solid guy
to keep an eye on. I mean, I like watching
the guy fight. I've seen many of his fights. He's
been all these Golden Boy under cars in recent times.
And Kenneth Simms, he did fight the fight against Kendall
Castaneda and won a pretty lopsided decision like eight eight
two nine to one on the score cards as a welterweight.
He says he still wants to fight at junior welterweight,
which is where he's been for most of his career,
and that could also set up a fight with any
of the guys that we've been talking about. Duarte they
fought on the same card. They're both with Golden Boy,
maybe even against against Ourna Brobosa who won the interim
title that we just talked about. Simms has been in
some good fights. He actually had won an eliminator. He
never got the shot. I'm really not sure what happened that,
but it was the BBA doing their WBA things. But
Kennison is another guy in one hundred and forty pound division,
albeit the last fight was at one forty seven, that
he can maybe make some noise he's a skillful boxer,
has no fear and can go and do his thing.
He's pretty big for the division, and it was a
good amateur. You know, he's right there in his prime.
He's thirty one years old. Nothing to look down on
with him. He can be in the ring with anybody
in that way class. And so he scored himself a
nice win. And then the other fight on the undercard,
again not a huge fight, but one of Golden Boys'
best prospects is the welterweight who was a top notch
US amateur named joel Erie Arte who's now six and Zho.
He just keeps doing his thing. He pummeled the guy
in two rounds. I feel like and maybe Golden Boys
shares his opinion and we'll see what they do next.
He's had his first six fights against you know, Jimokes.
Basically it's time for him to step up. Well, I'm
not saying you're gonna put him in the ring with
the top guy, but he can definitely handle a little
bit of a better grade of opponent than the guys
he's fought in the first six fights.
Speaker 1: You know, we got nothing against Jimokes in general. We
just don't have to see it over and over and
over again in a boxing ring. All right, good recappage.
We spent some time on all three of those cards.
Let's get to some fight news and then some excellent nostalgia. Okay,
So speaking of Richard Torres, as you reference, and we
did a disservice on Friday, you and I.
Speaker 2: I'm saying this playfully.
Speaker 1: Because somebody put the question up to us on the
bet Us Boxing Show about the American heavyweight scene besides
Jared Anderson, and you did not and I did not
come up with the name Richard Torres. I'm not saying
Richard Torres is ever going to be a heavyweight champion,
but he's at least a compelling American figure at the
moment because we've seen a little of him. He's had
some knockouts, he's got a chance to develop, and to
that end, he's gonna be back.
Speaker 2: In the ring coming up. So there's your segway, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I wasn't doing a disservice to Richard
Torres when the question was posed. I was thinking that
we're meaning like, who are the contenders and whatever becomes
of Richard Torres this career, Whether he becomes a contender,
a champion, or somebody that doesn't ever do anything. He
isn't there yet, so that's why I did mention him.
But the fact that matters. He did win the silver
medal in the twenty twenty delayed Olympic Games. He lost
only in a competitive fight, by the way, against Jalalov,
who won his second consecutive gold medal, and in a
previous amateur fight that he had with John Lov he
knocked him out cold, so he did way better in
the rematch as a more mature person and as a
more experienced boxer. Anyway, he's been brought along well. He's
had tons of quick, spectacular knockouts throughout his early part
of his careers. Now twelve to zero with eleven knockouts.
He's only twenty five years old. That's baby for a heavyweight.
And you know, if you remember back a couple of
weeks ago, we were talking about how Top rank was
looking at April fifth, that date that they have on
ESPN about doing the fight between you know, for the
interim lightweight title that was again between Raymore Attaya and Zarabdliev.
That was when that was going to take place, and
then of course Top Rank found out, Oh, by the way,
Abdlive is going to observe Ramadan and you're gonna have
to move the fight to like May or June. So
when that fight was moved to May, top Rank was
sitting there with a date and a fight that needed
to be made for a main event. So I don't
know if this fight was always on the drawing board
or if they went about it maybe slightly out of desperation,
but Torres does really wanted to step up, and so
what they did was they matched up Richard Torres, like
I said, the twenty twenty US Olympian, against Guido Vannello,
the Italian twenty sixteen Olympian, who's been with top rank.
They both went with top Rank for their entire careers.
And it's the main event of that April fifth card
that'll be an ESPN Plus only show, by the way,
it'll take place at the Palms Casino in Las Vegas.
But it's a it's a pretty interesting it's a pretty
interesting matchup because you're gonna get a chance to see.
Now I'm not saying Guido Vnello is this top notch,
you know, elite heavyweight at this point. But he's certainly
by leaps and bounds better than anybody that Richard Torres
says face so far. I mean, TJ. Remember on the
bett Us Show, we hit like questions like when the
over under on Richard Torres this fight to like a
round and a half. I mean, that's the.
Speaker 1: Kind of fiorized Would they ever put it at half
a round? Right a couple of those guys, which they
never did. So and so I agree with you on
the step up here, and it's and sooner later you
got to find out what you have, d Anderson.
Speaker 2: Sooner later you got to find out what you have.
Speaker 3: So VNL. If you look at his record, he did
have an eight round rather a sixth round draw against
Kingsley Ibay in twenty twenty, and Iday is like a
very uh, he's a he's a good journeyman like that.
He'll test you, but he's not usually gonna beat you.
And then the loss that he had was a freakish
loss against Johnny Rice because of a cut that was
unfortunately he stopped in the seventh round. The only other
loss he's got two losses was a very spirited split
decision loss against FAA Jagbai, which was a competitive and
a good fight, and then he rebounded from that in
his most recent fight that took place in August. He
went to Canada and he absolutely destroyed Arslan Beck Makmanduf,
who was they were trying to come back with him
after he had been beaten on one of the Saudi
Arabia cards, and he stopped him in the eighth round.
So he's coming off of what is a pretty good
win for him and he's stepping up against Torres. So
his stepping in was Torres. I'm not sure how big
of a step up it is, but it's a very
interesting matchup. You don't see, you know, youngish heavyweights from
the same company going in with each other. So I like,
we're going to find a lot out about Richard Horres
in this fight.
Speaker 2: And by the way, very personable.
Speaker 1: We interviewed him here for the podcast last fall after
his like his latest win, and again he's got a
wide variety of talents. As he said to us, he
was taking he was at the community college taking a
sign language class literally and a dance class, learning dance
steps which can help o het boxing. Uh huh. So
it was it was interesting talking to him, and he
said one of the things he loved it was having
his student id getting him a discount after he had
fought as a co feature fighter on Top Rank. He
was concerned again about the student discount to go get
the health bars and the food at the student cafeteria
at the community college.
Speaker 2: It's all about the eats. We've always said that it's
all about the eats.
Speaker 3: One other point they did, Top Rank did not announce
the co feature, but I am told by Top Rank,
and I had reported this previously, that the Top that
the cod feature on this will be another like Vannello
and Torres, is kind of like a shitter, get off
the pot kind of fight. Their co feature that they're
doing in the junior woralthyweight division, which is the division
that we've been discussing a lot, because there's a lot
of stuff going on there and the winner of this
fight will put themselves in a pretty nice position in
that division as well. They are going to do a
fight between the undefeated Mexican twenty sixteen Olympian Lendolfo Delgado
and Elvis Rodriguez, the Freddy Freddy Roach trained Dominican fighter,
and both guys have shown promise. Delgado is still undefeated.
Rodriguez has been a little inconsistent, a little up and down.
Was with a top rank for a long time, then
was with PBC, then came back and was re signed
with top rank. But they're going to do the co
feature against each other, and again not necessarily an officially eliminator,
but a de facto eliminator because the guy that wins
is probably going to find himself in a much bigger
fight after this one. So that's a nice co feature
on that show.
Speaker 1: All of that coming for April fifth, which, by the way,
in my brain, that is the basketball Final four weekend
in San Antonio for the men's Final four.
Speaker 2: Rayfield's hoping the Duke Blue Devils are there.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for the Final four in San Antonio at
the Alamo. While we're at that fight card, all right,
let's talk about more announcements. Golden Boy has also made
an announcement this weekend about the rematch with William Zapata
and Tevin Farmer for the WBC Interim lightweight title. Highly
entertaining first fight. Gimme the deats on when, when we're
looking at and where.
Speaker 3: Well, as soon as they fought their first fight, which
took place on in Saudi Arabia. That was the November
Latino Night card, because if there's going to be a
Mexican against a fighter for Philadelphia, you need to be doing.
Speaker 2: That Rea on Latino Night exactly.
Speaker 3: And Latino Night exactly. So they fought that fight and
it was November. That was one of the better that
was actually that whole card top bottom was a really
excellent show, but this was one of the fights that
made it in that manner. Remember as the paida was
the post to fight Chaquor at the time, Chakor at
that moment was out with an injury. So they approved
the fight between Farmer and Zapeta for the interim WBC title,
and they put on a heck of a fight. It
was a really good, exciting fight, and in the end
it was a split decision in favor of Zapeida. He
won ninety five ninety four twice and Farmer won ninety
five to ninety four on the other scorecard. So close
in terms of like kind of like Catarell was with Barbosa,
you know, separated by just the one round, but you know,
really maybe could have gone either way. But there was
a lot of a lot of folks that really felt
like Farmer a deserved the rematch. He called for it immediately,
maybe even that he could have won the fight. I
didn't really agree with that. I thought that Zepeida clearly
was the winner. But Farmer made his point because he
scored a knockdown against the paida who'd never been knocked
down before to the best of my knowledge, and made
it a heck of a fight. So wall Zepaida is
waiting to see what happens in the February twenty second
show where Shakor is back and defending his WBC lightweight
title against Floyd Scholfield. You know, they wanted to keep
their guys busy, and so you know what that this
made a lot of sense do with the rematch. You know,
there was no rematch clause, but this is the example
that should be the case. Is supposed to rematch clauses
where there is public sentiment for a rematch, there's a
reason for a rematch because of how good and closed
the fight was. So Zepeida, credit to him. He took
the fight, no questions asked. Obviously, for Farmer, he gets
the opportunity to avenge what he feels like was a
raw deal in the first fight. And they're gonna do
this fight on March twenty ninth. It'll be the main
event of a Golden Boys show on his own. They're
doing it can Coon, Mexico. So whereas the first match
was on the neutral ground in Riad, they'll do the
second fight in Williams of paid, his home country of Cancun.
But Kevin Farmer's always been a guy that no one's
really got out of their way to help. So he's
gonna have to go on the road and see if
he can do what Barbosa did. And Williams a paid
to defend the home turf and you know, propel himself
into a fight, you know, with the winner I guess
of Chakor and Scofield probably sucure.
Speaker 1: And remember Zapeida had the distinction of being the number
one ranked fighter in all four organizations at lightweight as well,
And it's logical they're setting it up for the Shakur
fight for down the road.
Speaker 2: If they're both.
Speaker 1: Victorious, stay tuned because Farmer again gave him a hard fight.
So that fight is in March. We march on with
the news, all right, whenever we talking about high rollers
and big dollars. We're obviously talking about Rayfield, but you're
interested in our friends at Sportico, and I love the
guys that right there, including shout out to their business,
their sports business writer Kurt Bodenhausen and Kirk Bodenhausen, by
the way, as a boxing fan, we allay get him
on the pod at some point. I've had Kurt on
on some other things, interviewing him. So they came out
with a list of an or fourth annual of the
top one hundred highest paid athletes in the world in
sports for the calendar year for twenty twenty four. And
this does not surprise me that there are boxers within
the top one hundred, and actually it wouldn't surprise me
if several were within like the top twenty, just because
of how lucrative it is at the top for some
of the name So pick it up from there. On
the money, I know for a lot of fans, the
eyes now have begun to glaze over on how much
money they're making. When Patrick Mahomes, for example, the Kansas
City Chiefs quarterback, has a four hundred and fifty million
dollar contract which he literally does what is show Hey
Otani's contract is I think you.
Speaker 2: Got the list in front of you.
Speaker 1: Isn't it like a five hundred or six hundred million
dollar contract?
Speaker 2: H I don't have it in front of the eyes.
Speaker 1: The eyes start to glaze over on the money. But
there are boxers on the list, so go ahead.
Speaker 3: A lot of people are very interested in this because
it shows you. It's kind of like why people are
interested in what are the television ratings, what are the
weekend box office takes for the big opening movies when
people like to see lists of what these folks are earning,
whether it's Hollywood or it's athletes. But I did find
it interesting besides just the general interest on what the
what the financial state of these big superstar athletes is,
is that it shows you that people can dump on boxing.
Obviously it's not what it once was in terms of
the mainstream, but for the very elite fighters, their money
is every bit as competitive or better than most athletes
in the world. And so in the top eighty one
of the one hundred, in the top eighty one, there
are six different boxers. That's very impressive. Now, to put
it in context, the number one athlete on the list
was the soccer icon Cristiano Ronaldo, who was pegged at
two hundred and sixty million dollars for twenty twenty four.
Now what Tornico did, and I like the fact that
they do this. They split it up between what you
earn in your field of play, so salary or purses
or whatever, and then they have a second category, which
is your endorsement.
Speaker 1: Money a game away in the field, away from the ring, right.
Speaker 3: And they combined it's for Ronaldo as the number one guy.
He's obviously a soccer player. He was two hundred and
fifteen million in salary and forty five million in endorsements.
Speaker 1: And the reason for that is and I know this,
and then we'll move this along because don't want to
spend fifteen minutes on it. The Saudi Investment Fund, the PIF,
paid him to come play in their soccer league rightfield.
They paid him two hundred and fifteen million dollars for
a year to play in the not in the English
Premier League, not in the German Bundesliga, which is very famous,
not in one of the Italian what is it La
Liga or whatever, Serie A. All these prestigious soccer leagues
this is the se league paid him two hundred and
fifteen million dollars.
Speaker 3: Well, you said, because if you're going to talk about
studs and just for the for a more context. Number
two on the list is the NBA superstar Stephen Curry,
who was making one hundred and fifty three point eight
million dollars, but fifty three and change his salary one
hundred million in indorsements. His is the opposite anyway in boxing.
You talked about the numbers of dollars that they that
the Saudi's paid Ronaldo to play in their league. There's
a reason why. The top two boxers on this list
are number three overall one Tyson Fury, where'd he make
his money last year all in two fights in Saudi
Arabia And number seven on the list is Alexander Ussek,
who also made his money in Saudi Arabia. For Tyson
Fury number three on the list, he made one hundred
and forty seven million dollars one hundred and forty million
in purses, seven million in endorsements. And for Alexander Ussek,
you know they fought each other twice. That was their
two fights of the year for each of them, one
hundred and twenty two million dollars for USIK and two
million dollars in in endorsement deals. Now jumped down to
number twenty and he's gonna be on this list next
year also because of his involvement with Saudi's. But his
twenty twenty four number is not because of Saudi, and
that is one Canelo Alvarez who had two fights I'll
remind you Edgar Berlanga and Heimi Mongia. He made seventy
three million dollars last year according to Sportoco, sixty five
million in purses, which is about right in my estimation,
another eight million dollars in endorsement money. And then you
go to number thirty and that is again Saudi Arabi involvement.
The former unified heavyweight title holder Anthony Joshua, who had
two fights Slasher, both on the Saudi Dime. He got
drilled or he drilled Francis Naganu and he then got
knocked out by Daniel Duwa. His number came in at
sixty million dollars, fifty million in person wow, ten million
in endorsements, a number fifty two year old. You're gonna
love this one. TJ again not Saudi related the legendary
cruiserweight Jake Paul who fought three times in twenty twenty
four forty eight million, thirty eight million in purses, ten
million in endorsements, and then number eighty one, a fighter
not involved with Saudi's at the time he will be
this year, uh and did not even fight in the
United States or Saudi Arabia for that matter. And that
is one superstar. Japanese undisputed junior featherweight champ Nollia in
a way who for two defenses against regular opponents, to
be quite honest, against Luis Neary and TJ. Doheney forty
two million dollars, thirty five million in purses, another seven
million in endorsements. So at the very top level, boxing
is as lucrative as any sport in existence.
Speaker 1: Go over to GAG because that's a that's a lot
of numbers to digest. What did Canemo make outside the
ring again, because it's it's very lucrative for him.
Speaker 2: What was his outside income?
Speaker 3: His outside they estimated at eight million dollars and he does.
Speaker 2: I would have thinkt that was more than that.
Speaker 3: Wow, But that may not be taken into account that
he owns like his own stuff here. That's this is
just what other companies were paying him. I guess. So
he did an endorsement deal with like a beverage.
Speaker 2: Heikkn is one of the big sponsors.
Speaker 1: And we see that all over the place on his
trunks and on the ring when he was fighting in
recent years.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a man, by the way.
Speaker 1: I did. Look sho hey Otani, I sold it short.
It's a seven hundred million dollar deal seventy million per year.
Speaker 3: With the dodg are now less in total value than
the deal that it's not for twenty twenty four. But
it's less than the deal that Jon Soto signed for
HI with the New York Mets for much more than that.
Speaker 1: And I wonder what Otani makes off the field. I
don't know if that's on your list as well, because
and again Patrick Mahomes, it's a four hundred and fifty
million dollar contract.
Speaker 2: I know that.
Speaker 3: Let's also put this this chelas if Rinaldo is number
one at two sixty. The number one hundred was Daniel Jones,
the NFL quarterback who the Giants my team finally got
rid of because he can't really play very much. He
was pegged at thirty seven and a half million, which
was thirty six million in salary and a million and
a half off the field.
Speaker 2: So that's a bit of a range.
Speaker 3: And let me say one other thing by the way,
and this was very noticeable out of the top one hundred,
he no NNA fighters on that list.
Speaker 2: Very true because we keep bringing up don't make that much.
That's why they're coming to fight boxers. Interesting.
Speaker 3: Actually, there's a reason why that the MMA guys that
have crossed over want to cross over because there's more
money at that level in boxing. There's a reason why
frances and Naganu decided to take his hand in boxing.
Speaker 1: Uh wanted to come fight Jake Paula.
Speaker 2: Exactly, all right, real quick.
Speaker 1: Uh this is uh something something that's tough to even
go over. Famed British trainer Joe Gallagher is battling stage
four bow and liver cancer. Former Ring Magazine Trainer of
the Year. I know you want to say some words
and our and uh our heartfelt concern for Joe Gallagher
as this news is now out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he made he made the public announcement in the
last few days. He made a lengthy statement on his
social media I've known Joe for many years. A class guy,
a lovely guy, a nice guy, heck of a boxing guy,
really pleasant to be around. I've been around him during
fight weeks at various times, and uh, there's a reason
why he's so high regarded. Just look at the kind
of fighters he's worked with. Currently, he is the trainer
for Lawrence o'coley, who now has come into the heavyweight division.
He's also very well known for being the trainer of
the unified women's welterweight champion, one of the best women's
boxers in the world that Tasha Jonas. Back in twenty
fifteen when he got the Ring Magazine Trainer of the Year.
He had a huge year that year. He and these
guys were all title holders at the time and were
good fighters. For a number of years. He was the
trainer for Anthony Krola, who had won a lightweight title.
He was the trainer for Scott Quigg, who was at
the top and at a title at the junior featherweight division,
and also that the trainer for Liam Smith, who at
that who is still now currently a middleweight contender, but
back then he was a junior middleweight titlelder ultimately lost
his title to Canelo Alvaret. He also was involved, you know,
with other members of the Smith family, Callum Smith he
worked with. He also worked with Matthew Macklin who was
a top midleweight for a long time, Charlie Edwards who
was a world champion, Paul Butler who was a bandon
weight world champion. So Joe's one of the best in
the business period regardless of country, but he's more well
known obviously in Britain because his clientele has primarily been
the British fighters. But a really good guy and I
can do a say, you know, good luck to him
and you know whatever is going to be is going
to be. But you know, hope everything works out as
best as possible. That's a tough one to take, like
you said, So nothing but has positive and good thoughts
for Joe Gallagher.
Speaker 1: And hopefully the support system is there from the British
boxing community, etc.
Speaker 3: He's a very very well liked person with the go is.
You don't find people talk bad about Joe Gallagher.
Speaker 1: Awful awful news and let's hope that Joe Gallagher can
get some treatment and he's in the fight for his
life right now. One more quick item and that is
an IBF Junior middleweight final eliminator. Makes my rundown here
what's going on with Ericson Lubin and who he's fighting
and when is it go But.
Speaker 3: We had spoken about that this person, it had been
ordered or maybe I know I wrote about it. This
was to determine the mandatory challenger for Baker Ortazalev, who
is the IBF one hundred and fifty four pound champion
coming off his big knockout victory in a title defense
against Kim Zoo. And so they had ordered Ericson Lubin
to fight ardre Al Holmes Junior and that went to
a per spid and it was up between Probox and
Demetris Salida. The Probox they don't promote Ericson Lubin, but
Gary Jonas, who is the owner of Probox, has known
and been close to lubin his entire career when he
was a manager before he became a promoter. He's the
one that signed Lubin when he turned eighteen years old
on his birthday and turned them pro back when he
was involved with what was at the time called Iron
Mike Promotions that was involving of Mike Tyson. So they
have a relationship and they beat out the per spid
that was offered by Dimitri Salida's company, which is the
promoter for Holmes. Anyway, they won the per spid for
two hundred and twenty five thousand dollars. That was a
couple of weeks ago. And so now they've announced our
determiners and got it sanctioned officially by the IBF. In fact,
the IBF told me that they've received the paperwork and
that's all sanctioned and good to go. Anyway, it will
take place on May tenth on a pro Box TV card.
It'll take place in Kassimi, Florida, which is right next
door to Orlando, which is where Eric's an.
Speaker 2: Hour about an hour east of me in Cassimi.
Speaker 3: And that's a nice matchup, lubit is. You know, he's
he's at his ups, he's at his downs, but he's
still a good contender. And Holmes is undefeated. This is
a big step up for him. And uh, there's a
big carrot at the end of this fight because the
winners getting the title shot. And you know one thing
about the IBF, say whatever you want, is if their
guys win the final eliminator. They either get a title
shot against the Randy Champer, they fight for the viacant title.
Speaker 1: All right, lots of good news, and that leaves us
with one bit of nostalgia. And it was twenty five
years ago coming this week, and we believe it was
February nineteenth, two thousand that the all time trilogy of
Eric Morales and Marco Antonio Barrera was born. Wild opening
fight that Morales won quarter of a century ago, Big
Dan the first.
Speaker 3: I remember this like yesterday. First of all, it is
my great privilege for I've been a ringside for the
second and the third fight of this great trilogy. And
I was not present at the first fight, and I
told the story. I think before I had just gotten
hired to be the boxing writer at USA today, like
in the days leading up to it, like the anniversary
is like this week, and I remember think to myself,
Oh my god, had I been hired like just a
month or two ago, I probably would have gotten to
go to the fight as a turnout. Obviously, I didn't
start my job at USA tell this fight was in
the books. I started about a month later in March,
where I finally moved and left the paper that I
was working for in the same company as USA today.
So what I remember is I was packing stuff in
my apartment where I lived in Vestal, New York and
watched this fight on HBO that night. I had a
rare Saturday night off from the office because normally, if
you're a sports writer at a local newspaper on a
Saturday night, especially at that time of year, you're busy,
you know, taking all the sports scores of what of
the high school stuff and the college stuff that's going on.
But I was home I watched this fight. It was
the anniversary of Boxing after Dark and they did a
one fight broadcast. This was a fight that a lot
of fans, especially Mexican fans, that look forward to for
a very long time. At the time, you had Marco
Antonio Brera held the WBO Junior featherweight title. Now back
in two thousand, the WBO title was not considered a
big deal, but he still had a matter of fact,
HBO didn't even reference that built but Eric Morales he
was the champion of the WBC, so it was to
unify those titles, and people expected it to be a
good fight, obviously, but I don't know if anybody expected
to be quite literally one of the greatest fights in
the history.
Speaker 1: I was gonna, I can interject, I was gonna say,
we've talked frequently about the genuine hatred. Was it well
known that the about the genuine hatred before they fought
the first time in the build up for this or
did we only come to understand it because of the
heated opening fight here of the trilogy.
Speaker 3: I really I think they didn't have any love for
each other, but it became much deeper once the fights
started with each other. So after the first fight, it
was much more a pronounce going into the rematch, and
even more so going into the third fight, where it was,
you know, as bitter as you could possibly get. And
you know, twenty five years later, they're actually okay with
each other. They've had meals together, their wives have met together,
they've made appearances together. So well, I don't think they're
already best friends. They definitely are able to deal with
one another on a you know, a nice manner. But
the first fight was as vicious, as savage, as brutal,
as hard hitting, and they didn't do so without skills.
But they wanted to just get in there and fight
their ass off. Round five of this fight is one
of the greatest rounds you will ever see. There was
all kinds of drama, the the the amount of excitement
in this fight and just the ooze and the os,
and you know, it's palpable. If you ever listened to
the HBO broadcast with Jim Lampley calling this fight, you know,
a tremendous, tremendous battle. Now, Morales, he's making his ninth
defense of the WBC title. Brera had regained the WBO title,
so he was making his third defense of a second
title reign, and it was voted the fight of the
year by many many people Ring Magazine for example, round
five Round of the Year for most people. Morales did
get knocked down in the twelfth round. It was kind
of a like a questionable close maybe you know, debatable knockdown.
It turned out not to impact the result of the
fight because it was in fact it was Morales who
won the split decision, So even by getting knocked down,
he still wound up getting the NOD in the fight.
But at the moment it happened, the fight was so close,
you're like, oh my god, maybe that's going to change
the result. Of the fight, and in the end of
the match, you know just how close it was. You're
talking about scores of one fourteen, one thirteen and one
fifteen one twelve in favor of Morales and one fourteen
one thirteen in favor of Berera. Now, I told you
TJ that it was a unification fight when the fight
was over, but Morales never had any intention of accepting
the WBO title. I told you that the WBO was
not highly regarded at that time. Morales wanted no part
of the WBO belt, so he did not take it.
And it was basically, and you know, I'll use the
phrase I use off this the WBO doing WBO things.
They just gave it back to Morera, even though it lost,
and Morales literally like literally just gave it back.
Speaker 2: We didn't have a vacant title fight involving Morera.
Speaker 3: We just gave it back to it and Morales Morales.
After this fight was over, he vacated the WBC title
and went up to the featherweight division for his next fight,
where you.
Speaker 1: You imagine how that locker room conversation went, perhaps in Spanish,
about no take it back. I don't know what the
Spanish is no, no, take it back. No, no, you're good,
No he doesn't want it, take.
Speaker 3: It back, no titles. Is an absolutely fucking spectacular fight. Yes,
I could watch that fight all day basically. I mean
the third fight was the fight of the year also,
and I love that fight as well, particularly because I
have vivid memories of being ringside for it. But I
still love the first fight more than the third fight,
even though I love both of them. The second fight,
like we've talked about many times, in a trilogy, sometimes
there's the one that's not as good as the other ones.
And the second fight of Barrera Morales well also a
very If you never saw the first fight and you
never saw the third fight, you'd watched this, Oh that's
a damn good fight, but you also realize it isn't
kind of in the same stratosphere as one and three,
but still a really high level fight. What I always
find interesting, by the way, about the trilogy is the
three fights that they had were all world championship fights
fought in three successive divisions. First fight was in the
one twenty two way class, as we were talking about,
second fight was in the featherweight division. Third fight was
in one hundred and thirty pound division, and obviously those
two fighters both won titles in all three of those divisions.
Morales ended up getting a title as well at one
hundred and forty pounds. But they made their names as
great fighters with each other. You know, you might look
at the funny thing about is their fights against each other,
as amazing and incredible as they are, I think that
there are certain people, myself included to some degree in
terms of their best win is not necessarily the one
that they scored against the other guy in this trilogy,
because when you look at Marco Antonio Barrera, I think
I have to say, and I think a lot of
people would agree with me, his biggest win was when
he just completely took apart Prince nasim I met as
a big underdog, And in terms of Eric Morales, it's
one of the best big time wins in the last
at least in my tenure twenty five years, when he
went out there and straight out beat Nanny Paco, who
was on the ascent in their first fight. Ended up
losing in the second and the third fight. But you know,
when you got a guy that scores that kind of
victory against the undefeated Prince Nasim in the Hall of Fame.
Now he had the other guy who scores the kind
of win. He did an amazing fight against Manny Pacyow.
You know who's going to be in all. He's going
in being inducted into the Hall of Fame this coming summer.
Those are huge wins. But they'll be remembered for what
they did against each other, the passion, the Mexican rivalry,
the hatred between them. And by the way, the hatred
was not just based on you know, maybe they called
each other's mama a bad name. There was a class distinction,
and I came to learn this covering the trilogy. Marco
Antonio Brera came from an upper class Mexican family in
Mexico City. His parents were professionals. He had gone he
had I think he had some college. But Eric Morales
was considered like quote unquote the Indian. He was from Tijuana,
very poor, you know, born above a gym in Tijuana.
His father was a boxing ger. They did not come
from any means at all, and they were looked down
upon within that society as like, you know, the poor
folks and you know, the the shunned people in society.
Whereas Brera was coming from the upper crust Morales not
and so there was that class distinction that they were
duking it out over. Also, that was a very big
part of that rivalry, at least if you talked to
the folks that covered it from Mexico. So when I
went to cover the rematch, I remember talking to my
writer colleagues and media colleagues that were they were there
and were explaining this to me as well as like
the late great Ricardo Jimenez, who was from many many
years one of the top rank publicists, who obviously was
Mexican and was intimately familiar with all the things I'm
just talking about. So I remember sitting with him at
one point during that fight we can happen. He was
sort of explaining all this stuff to me, besides just
what we had seen in the first fight and the
great rivalry that it had produced and the great fighter
had produced. So there was a lot of shit going
on besides us, you know, two guys duking it out.
Speaker 1: Love it. And it was twenty five years ago this
coming Wednesday, on February.
Speaker 3: Nineteenth, I'm going to rewatch that one.
Speaker 1: Wow, including that fifth round of that opening fight. Listen,
great stuff. Again, we recap the Keyshawn Davis win, We
go to the England and the Barboza win in the
slight upset of Catterall, the victory as well in the
Golden Boy Maine event for Oscar Duarte. Duarte may end
up fighting Barboso before it's over with for the WBO title.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned for that.
Speaker 1: And now we have reached the week of this tremendous
read season card, which we may start the Big Fight
weekend preview coming up in about twenty three minutes, I think.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm exaggerating.
Speaker 1: Can't wait for this later this week when we get
the preview going and the bet Us show.
Speaker 2: Donald.
Speaker 1: David Dubois, Daniel Doblox, excuse me, Daniel Dubois defending his title.
The Russians better be Devan b Bowl. And again here
Dmitri b Bole in the most recent pod, you way
to run down their cart, Shakur Stevenson, Carlos Adamas, Hams
of Sharaz.
Speaker 2: What am I leaving out here?
Speaker 3: Well, that's why you asked me.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 3: The main event, of course, is the rematch for better
BF b BO for the undisputed light heavyweight Duboi defending
the IBF heavyweight title against Joseph Parker. Excellent matchup. Chaquurse
Stevenson in the WBC lightweight title defense against Floyd Schofield.
Carlos Adamis defending the WBC Midlewa title against the number
one challenger, Hamsi Shiraz. A fantastic matchup between Virgil Artist,
who is the WBC's interim jumor midaway title holder, taken
on Israel Majumov. Another outstanding heavyweight title title fight of sorts.
This is for the vacant WBC Interim heavyweight title. Yeah,
that will take putting the title the title stuff aside.
Good match between Zilly Zang and your boy A G.
Cabio excellent matchup. And then Joshuo Bwasi defending his WBO
Interim light heavyweight title against Callum Smith. Obviously the winner
that fight is going to be in line to fight
the winner of the main event.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: That is a tremendous fucking card. End of story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, be great.
Speaker 1: We're gonna previe, by the way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I also mentioned yes the price on the pay
per view. I mean I'm gonna tip the cap the
Turkey yl sheet because he stated a number of months
ago that he was going to definitely bring down the
cost of pay per views. Now, in a perfect world,
they wouldn't put it on pay per view, would just
be on whatever platform they were gonna work with. The
Zone obviously is what they've been going with. But if
you're gonna buy a pay per view, how could you
not buy this? It's twenty six, twenty five ninety nine
or twenty six ninety nine. It's super cheap based on
pay per views stan relative, I mean, a lot of
pay per views are seventy five eighty dollars summer forty
or fifty dollars for this caliber of a show. Back
when Don King did the eight world title fight show
in like two thousand and four or five, whatever we've
talked about before. Back then, you know, the price of
the payper was like fifty sixty bucks. This is now
fast forward to twenty twenty five, it's like twenty five
twenty six dollars.
Speaker 2: It's amazing, that's and that's well done on their part,
and we look for to talk about.
Speaker 3: It besides just pay per view on his own pay
per view. Uh, they were not able to come to
terms with ESPN plus pay per view, but it will
be available on your regular linear television through in Demand
and their digital arm which are friends at PPV dot
com for that same price. So tremendous value on the card.
And I'm not pimping it because they're not paying me
a damn dime for it. I wish they were, but
it's a tremendous of value on it.
Speaker 1: It's arguably gonna be the card of the year already
in February, just for the depth of it and all
the titles and the names that are on and I the.
Speaker 3: Only the only fight that's a wide odds fight in
my mind is Shakur and and.
Speaker 1: On the Schofield at least has promise and has credibility.
You wouldn't say that he's fighting a ballm He's not
fighting a bomb no fighting.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying is the other six fights Watzi Smith Is,
jang Kebia, Ortiz Maagem and Damas Shiraz Dubois Parker better
be a vivo. Not one fight that I just mentioned
would be considered some kind of massive upset. They are.
You know, there's guys who should be favored in the fight,
but they are and these are not walk over abouts.
These are real fights with real guys taking real challenges
against quality opposition, which is what we asked for. And
that's why in one way I'm excited for the bet
Us Show and the other way I'm nervous because it's
a horror. These are hard fights to pick.
Speaker 1: Ben tremendous stuff. Listen, great stuff here. I'm glad you're
feeling better. We had a bunch to recap. We got
it done. We got this massive fight week over in
Saudi Arabia. The only downside, and we're not gonna go
for other five minutes, is it's so stinking far away
that we're kind of detached. But that's okay because you
can go here from Dimitri Beebel right here on this
pod feed.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have a lot stay on Dan Substack.
Speaker 1: As well as.
Speaker 3: Joseph Parker on the pod.
Speaker 1: Joseph Parker on the pod, who's going against Daniel dubois
uh with a heavyweight title challenge that's deserved because of
the wins that he's had. I love that interview when
you're asking him about, Hey, do you love the underdog
role and he said, yeah, it's worked for me.
Speaker 2: I'm paraphrasing it's worked for me. Why does he not
love the underdog.
Speaker 1: Role right now? In this shot with Dubois mess it
up for him, So again, check all of that out
and get ready to preview beyond Dan substack this week,
my friend, have a good week, Glad you're feeling better
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