WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.280 --> 00:00:09.240 Report to Transporter Room three. Oh, Brian, here, I need 2 00:00:09.279 --> 00:00:12.800 you in Transporter room three. This is the Captain. Meet 3 00:00:12.839 --> 00:00:21.160 me in Transporter room three. Join us in Transporter Room three. Captain. 4 00:00:21.280 --> 00:00:25.679 We're heading for transporter room three. This is your favorite 5 00:00:25.719 --> 00:00:26.800 transport room, isn't it. 6 00:00:28.679 --> 00:00:32.280 You're listening to Transporter Room three with your hosts Phil 7 00:00:32.359 --> 00:00:36.799 Pirello and Soak Laura Energize. 8 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:48.479 Welcome to the second Transporter Room three of twenty twenty six. 9 00:00:48.560 --> 00:00:49.479 Mister Scott. How are you. 10 00:00:50.280 --> 00:00:52.479 I'm doing good, Phil. We're getting ready for this storm 11 00:00:52.520 --> 00:00:54.159 over here in New York, and I think you are 12 00:00:54.240 --> 00:00:54.719 as well. 13 00:00:55.640 --> 00:01:00.759 Yes, I'm pulling a Sulu in the enemy within. I 14 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:02.640 got my rocks to heat up with my facer. I 15 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:04.719 got my faser to heat up those rocks. I got 16 00:01:04.719 --> 00:01:08.480 those blankets. I've also got some makeup to make it 17 00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:10.159 look really cold on my eyebrows. 18 00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:16.000 No shuttle, not a shuttlecraft to send down, right. 19 00:01:16.879 --> 00:01:19.000 And no long rope to send down either. 20 00:01:19.879 --> 00:01:23.840 No bugs on a coffee, no bugs bunny ladder. No. 21 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:30.200 Yeah, we're both on the East Coast. We're both about 22 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:32.879 to embark on our best McCready and the Thane impersonation. 23 00:01:34.959 --> 00:01:38.000 Yeah, so, anyone listening who's facing the storm, because I 24 00:01:38.040 --> 00:01:40.959 know it's a lot of areas are about to get hit. 25 00:01:41.120 --> 00:01:45.040 Just stay safe, and you know, don't do anything stupid. 26 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:49.159 Stay in, go out by your bread and eggs and milk, 27 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:51.719 and stay in the house and watch some Star Trek 28 00:01:51.799 --> 00:01:53.359 and let the storm pass. You know. 29 00:01:53.799 --> 00:01:58.640 Yeah, power goes out often in our area. The last 30 00:01:58.840 --> 00:02:00.680 is from the hit me with that powerful three days. 31 00:02:02.239 --> 00:02:08.120 We're hoping that doesn't happen here, little auxiliary generator. Three 32 00:02:08.159 --> 00:02:10.759 days is a while, yeah, yeah, yeah, And we got 33 00:02:10.759 --> 00:02:14.280 two dogs, so you know what, we'll warm up with 34 00:02:14.360 --> 00:02:15.400 some Star Trek thoughts. 35 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:19.479 Yeah, I guess I'm not sure if those will tie 36 00:02:19.479 --> 00:02:22.120 your wife over quite as long as they will you though, But. 37 00:02:22.439 --> 00:02:26.680 No, they won't, especially if we start talking about Starfleet Academy, because. 38 00:02:28.719 --> 00:02:30.960 Okay, well, speaking of which we're we are here to 39 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:34.919 talk about episode three of Starfleet Academy. Vitus Reflex. Is 40 00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:36.680 that how you pronounce it? I don't know. I was 41 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:40.479 going to ask you, ye vet us reflex. I'm not sure. 42 00:02:41.120 --> 00:02:43.840 I can't figure out what that means, what that title means. 43 00:02:43.840 --> 00:02:47.599 I I googled it like Latin. Yeah, I googled the Latin. 44 00:02:48.479 --> 00:02:51.639 I wasn't really piecing together what it what it, what 45 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:54.599 it stands for. So I don't know. Maybe maybe I'm 46 00:02:54.639 --> 00:02:58.000 just dumb, or maybe I'm missing the obvious. But but 47 00:02:58.039 --> 00:02:59.919 we you know, after last week when we talked about 48 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:02.919 the first two episodes of Starfleet Academy, we got a 49 00:03:02.960 --> 00:03:05.520 lot of positive feedback. A lot of people seem to 50 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:08.000 want us to keep talking about it. So we'll we'll 51 00:03:08.039 --> 00:03:09.800 try to keep the keep it going for a while 52 00:03:09.800 --> 00:03:11.599 and we'll see, we'll see how it goes, if people 53 00:03:11.639 --> 00:03:14.960 remain interested or not. Uh. But episode three, this is 54 00:03:16.199 --> 00:03:19.520 this is another moment, the one with the prank, the 55 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:25.319 one with the Little Shop of Horror's prank. So it's 56 00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:28.240 another one that's just set completely on Earth, which I liked. 57 00:03:28.719 --> 00:03:32.199 It's like they didn't they didn't send the school slash 58 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:35.080 starship up into space to get into a space battle. 59 00:03:35.080 --> 00:03:37.599 It's just it's kids at it's kids at the school 60 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:40.039 doing stuff, doing the kind of things that kids at 61 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:42.680 school do, right, Uh, And I like that. I'm glad 62 00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:46.080 that the show is willing to do that, and so 63 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:49.439 far anyway doesn't feel the need to to warp out 64 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:55.479 and go into battle or whatever every week. But overall, 65 00:03:55.560 --> 00:03:57.520 I liked this episode. Did you what do you think 66 00:03:57.560 --> 00:03:57.800 of it? 67 00:03:58.120 --> 00:04:01.599 I liked it too. I I I like the dynamics 68 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:06.120 of the of the crew, obviously the actor who plays Darren. 69 00:04:06.599 --> 00:04:08.240 Yeah. 70 00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:11.719 I like what they're doing with the quote unquote stereotypical 71 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:17.240 Jacques with Jock what's something to prove yes, and how 72 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:20.759 they're subverting that expectation. I was not expecting that. Yeah, 73 00:04:21.240 --> 00:04:22.480 I really appreciated it. 74 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:25.720 Because these characters are you know, I mean there's certain 75 00:04:26.240 --> 00:04:30.160 the main ones anyway are a certain type, right, Like 76 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:33.920 you know, you've got like the the chosen One boy, 77 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:38.000 you know, that's Caleb. You have the the Hermione type, 78 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:41.639 you know, the girl Genesis is other names like yes, 79 00:04:41.759 --> 00:04:44.519 you know she you know, she's like she's obviously very talented, 80 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:48.360 and Ella Shepherd, Yeah, you know she's talented, she's smart, 81 00:04:48.439 --> 00:04:51.800 she's good at everything. Then you've got Darren, who is 82 00:04:51.920 --> 00:04:56.439 kind of like the you know, not he's not a 83 00:04:56.480 --> 00:04:58.360 bad guy, but he's kind of like he has a 84 00:04:58.439 --> 00:05:01.759 darker edge to him, right, you know. So, and then 85 00:05:01.800 --> 00:05:03.160 you know the Whack. You have the couple of the 86 00:05:03.199 --> 00:05:08.319 wacky Sidekicks and the Klingon and samh but that's not 87 00:05:08.319 --> 00:05:10.120 to say that that any of this is a bad thing. 88 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:12.040 I mean, like this is these are types and then 89 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:13.879 you build out around them. And I think you're right, 90 00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:18.759 like this is basically Darren's episode and Genesis to a 91 00:05:18.839 --> 00:05:23.000 lesser degree, right, But like I really enjoyed the stuff 92 00:05:23.079 --> 00:05:27.720 with with the Darren character and how you know, we 93 00:05:27.720 --> 00:05:30.120 we find out that one of the reasons he's the 94 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:33.720 way he is is because his parents are assholes, basically, right. 95 00:05:33.839 --> 00:05:38.240 I mean he talks about how he uh and of 96 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:41.199 course we're talking full spoilers here as usual. He talks 97 00:05:41.240 --> 00:05:43.560 about how when he was a kid, he did some 98 00:05:43.759 --> 00:05:46.720 he was performing in some musical concert or something, and 99 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:50.639 his and he had practiced and practiced, and he screwed 100 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:53.199 up a note or something in the concert and his 101 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:56.560 parents got up and left like because you know, like 102 00:05:57.199 --> 00:05:58.360 you know, this is like that's not. 103 00:05:58.360 --> 00:06:02.240 Some writer's story that they brought him to the room. 104 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:05.920 My god, right, yeah, so, uh so you know this 105 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:08.319 is the this is what this get. This kid brings 106 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:11.800 into Starfleet Academy. He he you know, he comes here 107 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:15.319 with this this mindset and as a result, he's super competitive. 108 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:17.600 That's why he was picking a fight in the first 109 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:21.759 episode with with Caleb and the and the klingon uh, 110 00:06:21.800 --> 00:06:24.560 and here he's competing with Genesis to be captain of 111 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:27.680 that whatever the hell that squad is. I don't I 112 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:30.720 can't remember whether it's called, but like basically that late 113 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:34.839 laser tag squad. I don't know was some of this episode. 114 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:37.279 I was having a little bit of trouble following at times, 115 00:06:37.319 --> 00:06:39.920 like like they were competing to see who's gonna be 116 00:06:39.959 --> 00:06:43.959 captain of this like elite squad. It's almost like the 117 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:49.519 Wesley Crusher Flying Squadron from the Wesley Crusher Starfleet episode. 118 00:06:49.839 --> 00:06:51.879 But like I couldn't figure out what is the scot 119 00:06:51.920 --> 00:06:55.399 squad exactly that they were competing to be captain of. 120 00:06:55.639 --> 00:06:59.160 Is it is it that laser tag competition or is 121 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:01.360 it just is that just one of the tests that 122 00:07:01.399 --> 00:07:05.319 they had to take. I couldn't quite I don't know. Ye, 123 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:08.199 Like it's like it's a pretty long episode, It's over 124 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:10.560 an hour long, and yet. 125 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:11.920 I felt the run on this one. 126 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:16.480 Yeah, I did too. It felt like there was it 127 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:18.759 felt like there was a lot of nothing going on 128 00:07:18.839 --> 00:07:21.560 at times, and like and I and I couldn't quite 129 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:26.040 follow all the all the beats despite it being so long, right, 130 00:07:26.480 --> 00:07:27.040 and the. 131 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:32.920 Person pulling the prank court Scott, who who is the mastermind? 132 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:34.399 It was a little is it the Vulcan? 133 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:42.279 So the War College kids start right, yeah, and it's 134 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:44.879 the vult It seems like it's the Vulcan. And I 135 00:07:44.920 --> 00:07:47.920 think the the gal he's with is a Romulan or 136 00:07:48.040 --> 00:07:51.319 half romulin maybe, I'm not sure. It's the two of them. 137 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:54.240 And then they have that human sidekick I think his name, yeah, Kyle. 138 00:07:54.639 --> 00:07:57.319 So they seem to be starting it. But then it 139 00:07:57.399 --> 00:08:01.680 turns out eventually that if I understood it correctly, that 140 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:06.040 the masters of the two schools, Holly Hunter and her 141 00:08:06.120 --> 00:08:09.000 counterpar part in the War College, that they've actually been 142 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:13.439 manipulating the kids all along, and that they've been facing 143 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:17.399 off in their own way sort of in yes, But 144 00:08:17.639 --> 00:08:21.519 like I found Holly Hunter's dialogue like I know we 145 00:08:21.560 --> 00:08:24.759 talked about her last week, but like I found like 146 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:28.000 I was having trouble understanding the words that were coming 147 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:31.079 out of her mouth to quote, to quote Chris Tucker 148 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:37.320 from the Rush Hour movies or to Scott, oh shit 149 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:38.080 it is. 150 00:08:38.879 --> 00:08:41.159 I can't wait to hear your borat in two years. 151 00:08:44.360 --> 00:08:47.159 But like I couldn't quite understand her at times, like 152 00:08:47.200 --> 00:08:49.679 when she's like she kind of reveals at the end 153 00:08:49.720 --> 00:08:52.600 when she's talking to the the gem Handar slash kling 154 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:56.279 on her number one, and then when she's talking to Caleb, 155 00:08:56.720 --> 00:08:59.200 like some of the stuff, I was like, I don't 156 00:08:59.240 --> 00:09:01.080 know what the what the hell you're saying right now, 157 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:06.080 Holly Hunter. And I don't know if it's the screeners 158 00:09:06.159 --> 00:09:09.000 that we the screeners don't have finished audio or what 159 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:10.519 it is. But did you feel that too? 160 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:13.200 Some of the dialogue in this was hard for me 161 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:15.600 to understand, and I think that's the sound mix issue 162 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:19.320 that we've been seeing for the last decade. Yeah, dreaming, 163 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:22.519 you know, I put the subtitle on Yeah, I just 164 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:28.840 want to so Aki is behind this, but she's the ultimate. 165 00:09:29.279 --> 00:09:30.279 She's the mastermind. 166 00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:34.559 Sure, master she's manipulating the kids without them really knowing it. 167 00:09:34.799 --> 00:09:36.320 But now here's the thing about that. 168 00:09:36.919 --> 00:09:38.039 Yeah, I know. 169 00:09:38.120 --> 00:09:39.960 She says we are in the teach them how to 170 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:43.399 fish business, which is a good line, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, 171 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:46.080 And she says this is kit shit. I'm pro kit shit. 172 00:09:46.440 --> 00:09:48.360 Yeah. 173 00:09:48.480 --> 00:09:52.000 They grew up in the burn. Yeah, I'm not going 174 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:54.000 to crush the life out of them anymore than the 175 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:57.600 universe already has. Yeah, then why are you submitting them 176 00:09:58.679 --> 00:10:06.519 to these pranks that can emotionally traumatize or scar them. 177 00:10:06.720 --> 00:10:09.639 I mean, as they're going through a physical gauntlet of 178 00:10:10.320 --> 00:10:13.480 this centuries version of Capture the Flag. 179 00:10:14.480 --> 00:10:17.440 Well, being beamed and naked into in front of all 180 00:10:17.480 --> 00:10:19.960 your classmates in the third week of school, that can't 181 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:23.480 do much for you for your self esteem, right like that? 182 00:10:24.559 --> 00:10:33.840 You know, But again, these pranks, the Capture of the 183 00:10:33.879 --> 00:10:39.879 Flag game, well, people could get injured. 184 00:10:40.360 --> 00:10:43.600 Well I'm assuming there are safety protocols, but at the 185 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:47.159 very least emotionally injured. It felt like the beginning of 186 00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:48.720 the freaking Terminator. 187 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:55.519 Too, right, So what like, Yeah, I mean, I'm waiting 188 00:10:55.559 --> 00:10:59.080 for a skull to get crushed but by a metal foot. 189 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:05.080 But if you think just unpack, I think this is 190 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:08.360 of the story of the writing. They grew up in 191 00:11:08.399 --> 00:11:12.320 the Burn. Yeah, and as we know, the burn is 192 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:19.399 a galactic emp basically, yeah, right, Okay, they grew up 193 00:11:19.399 --> 00:11:21.200 in the Burn. I want to crush the life out 194 00:11:21.240 --> 00:11:23.679 of them, so I'm going to drop them into the 195 00:11:23.720 --> 00:11:26.000 middle of the first twenty minutes of saving Private Ryan. 196 00:11:29.480 --> 00:11:35.440 Why would you, as a cadet want to continue on Yeah, 197 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:37.080 with an academy. 198 00:11:36.639 --> 00:11:38.399 Like this, it's a pretty intense. 199 00:11:38.440 --> 00:11:39.039 That's okay. 200 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:41.840 But they say it's only been three weeks, so it's 201 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:44.320 a pretty intense. You would think that's the. 202 00:11:44.399 --> 00:11:46.720 Least be my last time. I say I've been here 203 00:11:46.759 --> 00:11:47.440 for three weeks. 204 00:11:47.519 --> 00:11:49.759 You would think that that's that's at least junior year 205 00:11:49.879 --> 00:11:52.000 type stuff. Right. They didn't let us shot shoot on 206 00:11:52.039 --> 00:11:54.639 sixteen millimeters till junior year. When I was in college. 207 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:57.360 It was like, you know Super eight and video before that, 208 00:11:57.399 --> 00:12:00.840 you know. So, so, yeah, I I hear where you're 209 00:12:00.840 --> 00:12:01.279 coming from. 210 00:12:01.320 --> 00:12:03.120 You know, I mean, but am I I mean if 211 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:06.440 I'm wrong, am I overthinking this? 212 00:12:06.720 --> 00:12:09.519 Or I mean again, like I don't I don't think 213 00:12:09.559 --> 00:12:11.919 they could actually get hurt. I tend to think they 214 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:14.480 couldn't get actually get hurt. But having said that, it 215 00:12:14.480 --> 00:12:18.279 could still be a traumatic situation. So I hear where 216 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:19.320 you're coming from. 217 00:12:19.159 --> 00:12:22.799 And she's she's quoting from shit Sue, Sorry, sorry, should 218 00:12:23.120 --> 00:12:28.679 should that's my dog son, Sue learned patience in a garden. 219 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:32.559 What fucking garden are you? What are gardens? 220 00:12:32.799 --> 00:12:32.879 Like? 221 00:12:33.480 --> 00:12:34.639 We met you in a garden. 222 00:12:34.960 --> 00:12:37.679 Yeah, Well she's trying to she's she kept trying to 223 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:40.480 drop plant references to bring it all home to Audrey 224 00:12:40.720 --> 00:12:42.960 at the end, right, Audrey from Little Schub of Horrors, 225 00:12:43.360 --> 00:12:46.039 I will say, and again I like the episode. I 226 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:52.080 don't I don't think a lapling the Lapling is the 227 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:55.159 Lapling is the one of the Again, like I had 228 00:12:55.240 --> 00:12:58.320 a little trouble following everything. The Lapling was one of 229 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:00.720 the mascots, the bird type mascot. 230 00:13:00.879 --> 00:13:03.879 Oh right, and that's the creature in the most toys 231 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:06.000 that I was talked about almost being extinct from. 232 00:13:06.080 --> 00:13:08.320 Oh is it really I think that's that. 233 00:13:08.600 --> 00:13:11.519 Oh I really know that because I looked it up. 234 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:15.360 Oh okay, well that's okay. Uh. And then the Mugatcha 235 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:16.840 was the other mascot the war. 236 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:18.000 Yeah, which is a nice touch. 237 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:21.679 A weird though, And then I was googling that and 238 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:24.159 like back when the trail, I guess you glimpsed it 239 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:26.080 in the one. You could glimpse it in one of 240 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:28.639 the trailers before the show came out, and people were 241 00:13:28.679 --> 00:13:31.320 like complaining because they thought that the mugatta was going 242 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:33.759 to be a member of Starfleet Academy and that the 243 00:13:33.799 --> 00:13:35.720 makeup didn't look good. You know, It's like it's a 244 00:13:35.759 --> 00:13:40.879 guy wearing a mascot suit like so, but I will 245 00:13:40.879 --> 00:13:45.440 say also like I felt like the escalating pranks didn't 246 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:47.399 pay off that well. It was almost like the beat 247 00:13:47.480 --> 00:13:49.919 the beaming prank was the best one, and that was 248 00:13:49.919 --> 00:13:53.399 the first, the first one, you know, But you know, 249 00:13:53.480 --> 00:13:56.159 the like the character. So there's a lot of the 250 00:13:56.320 --> 00:13:58.440 nit stuff to nitpick here. But like again, like I 251 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:01.159 really like the characters and the stuff going on with 252 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:04.360 them in these episodes, In these all the episodes so far, 253 00:14:04.919 --> 00:14:07.519 I like that we we shined the spotlight a bit 254 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:11.759 on these other two this week. Again, the stuff with 255 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:18.879 with uh uh, you know, with Darren's parents and you 256 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:21.120 know the fact that he kind of is trying starting 257 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:24.200 to learn to like think differently from his parents. I mean, 258 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:26.600 that's one of the reasons you go away while you 259 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:29.480 leave home is to experience the world and other people's 260 00:14:29.600 --> 00:14:32.679 viewpoints and stuff. And I felt like his story felt 261 00:14:32.679 --> 00:14:34.600 a little like a Star Trek story in a way, 262 00:14:34.679 --> 00:14:37.399 like an like an episode of Star Trek where it 263 00:14:37.480 --> 00:14:40.399 was like, you know, he was learning something about himself 264 00:14:40.519 --> 00:14:43.879 and about others, you know, uh, and they you know, 265 00:14:44.000 --> 00:14:47.399 they We've said this last week, but they really are 266 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:50.279 like packing it in there in terms of supporting and 267 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:53.440 recurring cast. You know, Deep says nine way right. But 268 00:14:53.600 --> 00:14:56.480 now we have these War College people who've entered the mix, 269 00:14:57.759 --> 00:14:59.960 and like, I think we'll probably see them again, right, 270 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:03.240 And and also like the idea of the War College 271 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:05.200 makes more sense now. It's like, okay, so it's two 272 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:09.519 different schools that are working together, and of course there's 273 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:12.519 going to be a rivalry between them, like that's inevitable. 274 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:17.159 Uh So, I you know, I really I liked it. 275 00:15:17.320 --> 00:15:19.159 I think maybe it was the weakest of the of 276 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:21.519 the first three so far, but I still thought I 277 00:15:21.559 --> 00:15:24.639 still thought it was good, you know, And I'm anxious 278 00:15:24.679 --> 00:15:28.360 to see the Klingon. I'm sure he's going to get 279 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:32.080 an episode and Sam. I'm sure Sam's going to get 280 00:15:32.080 --> 00:15:34.879 an episode as well. So I like that they seem 281 00:15:34.919 --> 00:15:37.639 to be going through and kind of giving each each 282 00:15:38.000 --> 00:15:40.399 member of the cast something to do. They're they're not 283 00:15:40.399 --> 00:15:43.759 getting check off in Sulud, uh you know, which is 284 00:15:43.799 --> 00:15:47.639 always a danger, right, They're not They're not getting Jordie lafforged. 285 00:15:47.840 --> 00:15:50.159 Not not yet anyway. 286 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:52.360 I hope not. I hope not anytime soon. 287 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:54.440 The doctor was not in this one at all. 288 00:15:54.679 --> 00:15:58.639 No, And you know what, I didn't really miss. 289 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:02.039 I didn't either. It's fine, you know, Like I hope 290 00:16:02.200 --> 00:16:04.519 when they do bring him back that they they do 291 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:07.960 something more substantial, substantial with him. I hope he gets 292 00:16:07.960 --> 00:16:10.440 he gets an episode or an episode where he works 293 00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:12.960 with one of the kids or something, and you know, 294 00:16:13.240 --> 00:16:15.240 I need more than just opera jokes. Like it was 295 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:17.159 good out of the gate the way they handled him, 296 00:16:17.320 --> 00:16:24.080 but like we need more, right sore. 297 00:16:21.639 --> 00:16:22.879 When we get to those episodes. 298 00:16:22.919 --> 00:16:25.120 Okay, yeah, see you're ahead, you've you've seen them and 299 00:16:25.159 --> 00:16:30.720 I have, you know. And then also, uh, tig Nataro 300 00:16:31.080 --> 00:16:33.639 was in this one a lot as Jet Reno, and 301 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:38.399 I enjoyed that stuff. Actually watching films, I thought that 302 00:16:38.440 --> 00:16:39.200 stuff was good too. 303 00:16:40.200 --> 00:16:44.159 Oh she uh uh. I thought Jet kind of stole 304 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:46.639 the show this time. I loved some of the line readings. 305 00:16:46.840 --> 00:16:52.360 Yeah, and she we find out is partners with Laura, 306 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:55.799 if that's how I'm saying. Yeah, Gina, Yes, Sheier's character 307 00:16:55.840 --> 00:16:58.720 who's the gem dar slash killing on uh and she 308 00:16:58.799 --> 00:17:01.240 even kind of they she says, like I left the 309 00:17:01.279 --> 00:17:05.279 Starship on the edge of reality creation. Yeah, a edge 310 00:17:05.279 --> 00:17:07.039 of creation, but it's a cool way to put it 311 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:10.160 in order to like come live with you basically like 312 00:17:10.559 --> 00:17:15.720 live with you know so yeah, so uh and yeah, 313 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:19.839 and they're funny together. One thing I wanted to mention 314 00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:22.440 just bigger picture. We didn't really talk about it last time, 315 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:26.799 but like the toxicity around this show, it feels a 316 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:30.440 bit unparalleled. And you know, all the modern Trek has 317 00:17:30.599 --> 00:17:34.279 caught a lot of ship from toxic fandom, right, but 318 00:17:34.319 --> 00:17:34.799 this one. 319 00:17:35.400 --> 00:17:41.200 The fantom Yeah, I I'm unsure other than you know, 320 00:17:41.279 --> 00:17:46.039 people stirring ship just to stir ship and then then 321 00:17:46.839 --> 00:17:50.279 Snowballs becomes the boulder from Raiders. 322 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:54.920 I just choose to ignore it, like a show that 323 00:17:55.000 --> 00:17:59.200 for sixty years was built in a foundation of inclusivity. Yeah, 324 00:17:59.240 --> 00:17:59.960 and empathy. 325 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:00.720 Yep. 326 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:07.960 If that is something that you feel the need to 327 00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:12.680 rail against behind an avatar online, then I need convinced 328 00:18:12.680 --> 00:18:14.920 that you were ever the audience for the show. 329 00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:16.240 Yeah, that you ever. 330 00:18:16.119 --> 00:18:19.279 Understood what it was. If all you want is phasers 331 00:18:19.279 --> 00:18:23.160 and photons and punching and we're in silent run, Deep 332 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:26.079 Star Trek has that, but it's never only had that. 333 00:18:26.519 --> 00:18:30.200 Yep. Exactly, Well put Yep, That's all I'm gonna say 334 00:18:30.200 --> 00:18:32.440 about that. A big part of the promise. 335 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:33.160 My first Gump guys. 336 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:34.000 I hope you liked it. 337 00:18:34.759 --> 00:18:40.720 Scott was dusting off his nineties reference. I gave you, 338 00:18:40.759 --> 00:18:42.480 guys a classic Gump. 339 00:18:43.400 --> 00:18:45.559 Are we putting Forrest Gump and Rush Hour on the 340 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:46.160 same scale? 341 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:50.200 But if we were, I think we'd be the only 342 00:18:50.279 --> 00:18:53.400 people to do so. I don't know what that Venn 343 00:18:53.440 --> 00:18:55.480 diagram is. Movies in the nineties, that's it. 344 00:18:57.240 --> 00:18:59.640 So yeah, now you're right. I guess the last thing 345 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:02.279 I'll say about that is just you know, you have 346 00:19:02.359 --> 00:19:07.160 these people who basically monetize hate nowadays, you know, on 347 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:10.079 the political spectrum, but then not on fandom, the fandom 348 00:19:10.079 --> 00:19:12.799 side of things, Like they it's in their best interests 349 00:19:13.160 --> 00:19:16.519 to make people hate in order to get feed those 350 00:19:16.519 --> 00:19:19.440 people more, in order for the algorithm to feed those 351 00:19:19.480 --> 00:19:22.680 people more hate, so they'll click on their hateful videos 352 00:19:23.119 --> 00:19:25.680 and you know, try to make a few bucks off 353 00:19:25.680 --> 00:19:28.799 of YouTube ads or whatever. It's. It's it's freaking pathetic. 354 00:19:28.839 --> 00:19:32.799 But also on this episode, I mean, they it's a 355 00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:34.960 long episode. It felt like it could have been shorter, 356 00:19:35.039 --> 00:19:37.680 but they do service a lot of things, and they do. 357 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:41.240 They did also touch on Caleb and the I'm blanking 358 00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:48.200 on her name now. The betazoid girl Terrima is that 359 00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:51.720 their name? Tee? We're gonna get these names right eventually. 360 00:19:51.799 --> 00:19:56.160 Tarama is it? I think it's okay? 361 00:19:56.400 --> 00:20:02.240 Kima the Beta said yeah, Beta student. 362 00:20:02.319 --> 00:20:04.240 Yeah. Yeah. So we got even though they weren't the 363 00:20:04.279 --> 00:20:06.759 main focus of the episode, we got stuff with them 364 00:20:06.799 --> 00:20:09.039 as well, which was enjoyable. They got a fair amount 365 00:20:09.079 --> 00:20:12.240 of to do. They got to play basketball together. 366 00:20:12.839 --> 00:20:15.359 I was fascinating, No pun intended. That was interesting to 367 00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:20.000 see that of all the sports to not require a 368 00:20:20.039 --> 00:20:25.960 future upgrade, it's basketball because jump ropes got a glow green. 369 00:20:26.680 --> 00:20:29.720 Yes, you're right. The basketball didn't have like us, have 370 00:20:29.880 --> 00:20:32.039 a shiny surface or anything. Yeah. 371 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:32.480 Right. 372 00:20:32.680 --> 00:20:34.759 By the way, how rude is it to jump rope 373 00:20:35.119 --> 00:20:37.359 while your roommates are sleeping? Oh? 374 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:39.640 I would have I would have beamed him without his 375 00:20:39.680 --> 00:20:43.279 clothes on some place walk back. 376 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:48.079 Yeah. But I like the when when Caleb goes in 377 00:20:48.200 --> 00:20:50.839 undercover when they're finally going to pull off their ultimate 378 00:20:51.440 --> 00:20:54.559 prank at the end, and he goes in undercover as 379 00:20:54.559 --> 00:20:58.839 a as the Mugatu mascot, and then the beta zoid 380 00:20:58.920 --> 00:21:02.759 girl uh runs into him and he's trying to play 381 00:21:02.759 --> 00:21:06.599 it off and she kind of leans in and she's 382 00:21:06.640 --> 00:21:08.759 acting like she doesn't realize what he's doing, why he's 383 00:21:08.799 --> 00:21:11.839 really there, and she kind of leans in to kiss him, 384 00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:15.079 and then she at alerts the alarm system, but she's 385 00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:17.599 known the whole time that that he actually was there 386 00:21:17.599 --> 00:21:21.160 to infiltrate the dorm. I thought that was cute, And uh, 387 00:21:21.359 --> 00:21:24.680 there's also this like so we should mention it actually, 388 00:21:24.720 --> 00:21:28.440 because some of our listeners were wondering about this, the 389 00:21:28.519 --> 00:21:32.200 question of whether or not the Beta Z powers of 390 00:21:32.279 --> 00:21:36.160 being portrayed correct betazoid powers. Are they empaths or are 391 00:21:36.160 --> 00:21:40.440 they telepaths? And I have to confess I don't have 392 00:21:40.839 --> 00:21:43.160 a clear answer to it, because I always felt like 393 00:21:43.240 --> 00:21:48.240 Next Gen was never super clear on it either. I 394 00:21:48.279 --> 00:21:49.640 don't know what super clear. 395 00:21:49.640 --> 00:21:52.000 In the beginning, she was an EmPATH. 396 00:21:51.960 --> 00:21:54.519 Right, but she was half human right so, right. 397 00:21:54.440 --> 00:21:58.519 So that there was an implied and sometimes actually stated 398 00:21:59.400 --> 00:22:04.839 limitation to her powers right at the same time, I 399 00:22:04.880 --> 00:22:09.319 think as narratives evolved and story stuff involved. Obviously the 400 00:22:09.359 --> 00:22:11.799 Troy we see in Picard season three is not the 401 00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:14.880