Speaker 1: He'll be like a bad it's the internet. You're busy.
Speaker 2: Let's do this for March seventh, twenty twenty five. For
Speaker 2: the next hour or so, let me help you sort
Speaker 2: through the world of gaming on Game Mess Mornings Live
Speaker 2: with Me Jeff Grebb. Today, Respawn has canceled another game
Speaker 2: and Mario Day begins early. But first please join me
Speaker 2: and welcoming today's co host a Game Best Mornings.
Speaker 1: It's to Moor, who's saying, everybody, damn, how are you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm alive, alive. Those are the things that I require
Speaker 1: for you. I'm glad you're here. How are you doing?
Speaker 3: How I'm feeling?
Speaker 1: How are you feeling?
Speaker 2: Oh he's standing up all right, he's uh, oh my god,
Speaker 2: he's got the.
Speaker 1: Are those Monster Hunter duel blades.
Speaker 3: I'm feeling like Star skirt Radawn.
Speaker 1: Star skirts for don swords. Okay that makes sense. Yes,
Speaker 1: this is how we're should.
Speaker 3: Day for Game Mess Mornings. Okay, we want some of
Speaker 3: this smoke.
Speaker 2: When you pose like that, you want huh yeah, when
Speaker 2: you post like that over your shoulders, you well, I
Speaker 2: don't want it personally, Like if I'm I think wants it.
Speaker 3: I'm thedon. Look at me, I'm the redon now, well.
Speaker 1: You're looking cool. How did you have to bring those
Speaker 1: through customs?
Speaker 3: No? That was a bthday present given to me by
Speaker 3: Andrew Goldfal.
Speaker 1: Oh incredible, Well, happy birthday. But when was your birthday?
Speaker 3: Who knows? Maybe this every day?
Speaker 1: Oh you son of a gun?
Speaker 2: Uh well, Tam, happy birthday. Glad you're back. How was
Speaker 2: your trip? Did you have fun out there?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah it was great. Was Lucy only this week?
Speaker 3: I'm sure she might have explained most of it, so
Speaker 3: she was right, But yeah, it was good.
Speaker 2: We quick aftering it something when I when you show
Speaker 2: up the swords, I just looked at him quickly, and
Speaker 2: I just assumed that they were the Monster Hunter duel blades.
Speaker 1: Are you mad at me?
Speaker 3: No? No, that's fine, it's uh, I understand.
Speaker 1: They look like my second guest would have been Redone.
Speaker 1: It would have. Yeah, I mean I think about that
Speaker 1: guy a lot, maybe not as much.
Speaker 3: Same the same as me. Yeah, Japan was great. We
Speaker 3: went to see Expedition thirty three. I wrote a preview
Speaker 3: up of that game. Is one of those games where
Speaker 3: I played it and I'm like, I played the preview
Speaker 3: build and I was like this preview build is really good.
Speaker 1: It's really good.
Speaker 3: I don't know if this preview build is really good
Speaker 3: or if I'm being like tricked and the game is
Speaker 3: actually never slices in front of us. Yeah, judging what
Speaker 3: was in front of me, I was like, oh god,
Speaker 3: this might be. It might be a little Game of
Speaker 3: the Year contender right here, baby. So I wrote a
Speaker 3: preview by it was very excited about. My whole angle
Speaker 3: on the preview was like, this is this reminds me
Speaker 3: of the Miss Walker saka Gucci era from the early
Speaker 3: three sixties, where people had ideas and they were trying
Speaker 3: to do it, but now we're in a position to
Speaker 3: actually make it happen. Me and LiTi did a video
Speaker 3: preview as well, and the entire time from the moment
Speaker 3: I woke up that day to go leave for the
Speaker 3: airport to the day I got to Narita Airport to
Speaker 3: come back. I was filming stuff for a travel log,
Speaker 3: so you can watch me wake up first thing in
Speaker 3: the morning, brush my teeth, leave for the airport, and
Speaker 3: then Lucy was doing some of that on her side
Speaker 3: as well. And then obviously when we were like fictioned it, yeah,
Speaker 3: we split fictioned it and then we would get together
Speaker 3: and then we'd film. I'd film or she'd film. And
Speaker 3: what we did was we met with the developers of
Speaker 3: sandfol the game. And obviously they're French studio, but they
Speaker 3: love Japanese games. They they're inspired by Japanese RPGs, all
Speaker 3: kinds of exactly exactly you couldn't tell. And so what
Speaker 3: we figured is they're in Japan, we're in Japan. Why
Speaker 3: don't we like walk around Japan, like walk around like
Speaker 3: Tokyo Akihabora and that kind of place and just film
Speaker 3: them as they interact with Japanese culture, especially the gaming side.
Speaker 3: So like if they're walking along like we went to
Speaker 3: Super Potato and then at one point, like a developer
Speaker 3: might stop and be like, oh man, I love Final Fans.
Speaker 3: See that's a perfect moment to speak to them about
Speaker 3: Final Fantasy. Why do they like it? How is it
Speaker 3: manifested in their game? You know that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: And we did that with like a bunch of stores
Speaker 3: with Tower Records. Was really good because everything was kind
Speaker 3: of like laid out really cleanly. So we went down
Speaker 3: one aisle and every single thing they were like, oh
Speaker 3: I love Kingdom Hearts, oh I love near. I love
Speaker 3: this and we just like interviewed them the entire time,
Speaker 3: and then like after that, like walked around Akihabora for
Speaker 3: a bit, went Super Potato, went to a couple of
Speaker 3: other retro game stores, got addicted to claw machines, and
Speaker 3: like catalog the whole process. Yeah, so hopefully we'll have
Speaker 3: a extensive travel log coming at some point soon. Collected
Speaker 3: lots of footage. I spent yesterday labeling it so it
Speaker 3: was easier to edit together, and then I was going
Speaker 3: to edit it, but the gen was like, let's get
Speaker 3: short edit and I was like, oh yeah, an actual
Speaker 3: person that is good at editing, yes, oh yeah, that
Speaker 3: person to do it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you're right there to see Clear Obscure Expedition.
Speaker 3: Thirty three, which is yeah, quickly show up to one
Speaker 3: of my most anticipated games of the year list, and
Speaker 3: thankfully it's not far away, not far away.
Speaker 2: Not even a big RPG guy, But boy, they I
Speaker 2: think they nailed the things that they're going for.
Speaker 1: They really got right, So I am excited about that
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 2: Real quick want to note chat had a very long
Speaker 2: time making fun of me for not knowing those swords
Speaker 2: right away, and I just want to say, that's the
Speaker 2: most stereotypical nerd thing of You.
Speaker 1: Don't know that thword by looking at it? Come on,
Speaker 1: what do you mean? I thought you were a real gamer,
Speaker 1: and I'd say, oh my.
Speaker 3: God, you guys Jesus like Don, I can hold both
Speaker 3: swords with one hand. I think I think that makes
Speaker 3: me more powerful than the stoss coach ro Don.
Speaker 1: I do too. Yeah, I've always said I've always thought
Speaker 1: that about you. Though.
Speaker 2: Let's explain what we do here most weekdays. I, Jeff Grubb,
Speaker 2: will help piece your gaming life back together. That includes
Speaker 2: breaking news and maybe even some of our own original reporting.
Speaker 2: For all these topics, I'll get the input of a
Speaker 2: bona fide expert who will make me look smart.
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Speaker 2: All right, we have a lot to get into, so
Speaker 2: let's start the morning mess with Respawns. Unannounced multiplayer first
Speaker 2: person shooter game has been canceled. This is from Alex
Speaker 2: Hopley at Game Reactor, it appears that Respawn Entertainment, the
Speaker 2: studio behind titan Fall, Apex Legends, and Star Wars Jedi Survivor,
Speaker 2: has canceled an unannounced multiplayer first person shooter game this
Speaker 2: name three.
Speaker 1: Yeah. They were, yeah, they were working.
Speaker 3: On somehow they were cancer.
Speaker 1: They just worked on it so they could cancel.
Speaker 2: The news comes from the Game Post, which caught a
Speaker 2: LinkedIn post by former Respawn employee Emily Evans which revealed
Speaker 2: that the game she had been working on for the
Speaker 2: past year had been shut down. While we don't know
Speaker 2: exactly what the game was, it was believed that it
Speaker 2: could have been a brand new ip I. So this
Speaker 2: was before this latest phase when it was when it
Speaker 2: was canceled. Now, it was previously, or at least the
Speaker 2: team that was working on that.
Speaker 1: Star Wars mobility based.
Speaker 2: First person shooter game that was going to have all
Speaker 2: kinds of cool stuff, but in the Star Wars universe,
Speaker 2: that project got canceled. But then that team kind of
Speaker 2: likely took a lot of that work and was going
Speaker 2: to repurpose it for whatever this was going to be,
Speaker 2: which I don't know, but that now that has also
Speaker 2: been canceled. So nothing was titan Fall here, which I
Speaker 2: guess some people might be relieved to hear, but also
Speaker 2: they're not, like, it's not like they're working on anything
Speaker 2: titan Fall either, at least, so that's that's yeah.
Speaker 3: Is that known? Right? Like titan Fall isn't actively in
Speaker 3: production there?
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's the last time we talked
Speaker 2: about this, you know, the titan Fall, it was titan
Speaker 2: Fall Legends was being worked on as a major update
Speaker 2: to Apex Legends, and then that was canceled, and since
Speaker 2: then there's been.
Speaker 1: No change to that.
Speaker 2: But you know, I think people are always getting their
Speaker 2: hopes up, so as I guess, as a reminder and
Speaker 2: as confirmation, there is nothing titan Fall happening, unless you know,
Speaker 2: they are beginning to think maybe some of the stuff
Speaker 2: they're gonna do with Apex Legends again might involve some
Speaker 2: titan Fall stuff. But boy, if they wanted to do that,
Speaker 2: why didn't they just not cancel the titan Fall Legends things,
Speaker 2: the content that they were planning to do originally? So yeah, really, okay, really,
Speaker 2: all that's happening over at Respawn now is Apex Legends,
Speaker 2: Star Wars and Star Wars, Jedi, the third game in
Speaker 2: that series.
Speaker 1: And then there is a skunk Works.
Speaker 2: Team led by Steve Bakuda, who was the director of
Speaker 2: Titanfall one. He's been like working on a prototype phase
Speaker 2: for a new project for a very long time now
Speaker 2: and he is still doing that.
Speaker 1: That project is.
Speaker 2: Also not you know, close to coming out or anything
Speaker 2: like that. It's at least two maybe three years away,
Speaker 2: and who knows if that actually ever sees the light
Speaker 2: of day.
Speaker 3: But that game is different from this one. That is
Speaker 3: different for actively in production. That is, yes, actively in prototyping.
Speaker 2: Right, so right the way Respawn does stuff where they
Speaker 2: spend you know, half the development phase prototyping half of
Speaker 2: it like polishing all the great ideas that they came
Speaker 2: up with.
Speaker 1: That is still in the first part of that phase.
Speaker 2: But active development as far as like all the things
Speaker 2: that they're working toward is development absolutely yes.
Speaker 1: And then nothing else that's it. Wait, and one of
Speaker 1: the way would happen.
Speaker 2: There's the Tactics game that they're working on with Reactor,
Speaker 2: but a bit Reactors doing the development on that really,
Speaker 2: so yeah.
Speaker 3: I wonder how successful they would be if they just
Speaker 3: snipped out the titan Fall multiplayer and just released it.
Speaker 3: I bet these days that thing would pop off so hard.
Speaker 2: I mean it's like if they could just do like
Speaker 2: Titan Fall one and two remaster and really, you know,
Speaker 2: those games are mostly just multiplayer. I mean, Titan Paull
Speaker 2: two obviously had an incredible campaign, but you remaster that
Speaker 2: too and like give people a reason to come back
Speaker 2: to it, and then you say, like, no, yeah, we
Speaker 2: are basically remaking those games, but let's spruce up the multiplayer,
Speaker 2: maybe combine the best ideas of both of the multiplayer
Speaker 2: modes and say we're going to support this going forward.
Speaker 2: I think you're right, that is something that could work
Speaker 2: really well right now.
Speaker 1: I would love to see that.
Speaker 3: Or just make Time Fall three. I would kill the
Speaker 3: next five Battle of B Battlefield games for a tit
Speaker 3: On four three. Yep, Like if that was my like
Speaker 3: deal with the Devil at one hundred percent to.
Speaker 1: It, Yep, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 2: Actually yeah, but uh Ea, it just seems like they are,
Speaker 2: you know, slowly peeling back from like fully just giving
Speaker 2: free reign to respawn. Respond of course, has had a
Speaker 2: lot of a key talent move on a lot of
Speaker 2: people with stock that has vested that they are taking
Speaker 2: and starting new studios with.
Speaker 3: The only way Titan four three gets made at EA
Speaker 3: is if Joseph Ferris says he's doing something in it.
Speaker 3: Because somehow he's got the keys to that kingdom, he
Speaker 3: can do whatever the fuck he wants because he's popping
Speaker 3: off Lea France.
Speaker 1: And that's why I would redoing twenty dollars with it. Yea, yeah,
Speaker 1: they like that a lot.
Speaker 3: That's what I would be doing strategically as a respond
Speaker 3: I'd be like, you know, executive produced by Joseph Ferris,
Speaker 3: and then they'd have to be.
Speaker 2: Like the final way I have to do this your
Speaker 2: statue like, yeah, Titan just just like kicking an Oscar
Speaker 2: statue in the nards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would like that.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I I You know, people really hold a torch?
Speaker 1: Is that the same carrying a torch and carry yeah candle?
Speaker 1: Is that what it is?
Speaker 2: They carry a candle for a Titan Fall three and
Speaker 2: hope that like something will happen there. But you know,
Speaker 2: there's just no good news, not really not when it
Speaker 2: comes to that franchise, And I apologize that that continues
Speaker 2: to be the way it is.
Speaker 3: You sit right down next to the hollow night people,
Speaker 3: and you've been the blood Bone people and you shut up.
Speaker 1: Yep, you get get in line.
Speaker 2: Honestly, Apex Legends is kind of their kind of returning
Speaker 2: focused Apex Legends. After previously uh thinking that they were
Speaker 2: going to slowly wind that game down over the course
Speaker 2: of the next five years or so, they have changed
Speaker 2: their tune on that a little bit. When speaking to investors,
Speaker 2: at least, tam what did they What can they do?
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously my answer would be like, yeah, bring
Speaker 2: in more Titan Fall stuff, bringing Titans into Apex Legends.
Speaker 1: That would get me excited. Probably, what else can they
Speaker 1: do with it?
Speaker 3: Why is this technical game making? Because it is that
Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna be very naive here and say, like,
Speaker 3: surely they're making a time fold tile based tactical game
Speaker 3: in the vein of like FTL or something like that.
Speaker 1: Right, what ship? Damn? Why do you got to say
Speaker 1: things like that? Exit tiles?
Speaker 3: It's not that I don't understand why, Like I some
Speaker 3: dumb ass like me can come up with ideas that
Speaker 3: are actually good just off the cuff, while these people
Speaker 3: who are professionally paid to do it at executive levels aren't.
Speaker 3: Just like, why do you do this because that seems
Speaker 3: like a good idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a really good idea, and I would give.
Speaker 3: Me, give me the executive money, right And I was
Speaker 3: just sitting a road check. You just every time you
Speaker 3: open the door and stick your head and I'll give
Speaker 3: you an idea that's a banger, and then you just
Speaker 3: close the door and that's it. Every time you want
Speaker 3: to pop ahead in where you got turn based FTL,
Speaker 3: but time fall close the door? How was that not banging?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I want that real bad into the breach titan Fall.
Speaker 3: Yeah, intero breach FTL, combine them, let's do this.
Speaker 2: You got a winning formula right there. It is Uh
Speaker 2: it's a Star Wars tactics game.
Speaker 1: Uh ah, I knew you. Yep, that's it.
Speaker 2: That's the same that's they're gonna That's it is a
Speaker 2: shame that like this team that did have titan Fall
Speaker 2: has to like go through Star Wars and get some
Speaker 2: stuff made.
Speaker 1: Hate.
Speaker 3: I hate that, man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think those Jedi games are someone who is
Speaker 2: like a huge Star Wars fan, they crush it with.
Speaker 1: Those Jedi games.
Speaker 2: It's just so I'm also a huge Respawn fan kind
Speaker 2: of want them to be able to do whatever they
Speaker 2: want issue and that is not happening now.
Speaker 3: No. I hate that this talented team has to attach
Speaker 3: everything they do through Star Wars because stal Wars is
Speaker 3: at like the peak of mediocrity right now, so it's
Speaker 3: not like prestigious anymore. It's just like we need another
Speaker 3: bag of popcorn from the popcorn factory.
Speaker 2: It's great if the people making it don't really care.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, and or aside people making it
Speaker 2: don't really care, and I including you.
Speaker 1: Can included and you're completely wrong. It's the best TV
Speaker 1: show ever made, but.
Speaker 3: It's insane as the animated series and.
Speaker 1: Well I'm not counting Batman. Come on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, I hope Respond can make things make sense.
Speaker 2: I hope that that's Steve Kuda game comes out. That's hey,
Speaker 2: that's a I like the way Respond does things. There
Speaker 2: was a time there where EA was like everyone should
Speaker 2: work like a Respond underneath us. Vincipella, you're in charge
Speaker 2: of a whole bunch of shit now because we like
Speaker 2: the way you did things over Respond and that never
Speaker 2: really manifested. Ben Sampala is still in charge of like
Speaker 2: Battlefield now, and he's it seems like it's a full
Speaker 2: time job, rescuing that I'm of the personal opinion that boy,
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's worth it to me because
Speaker 2: I just have never truly loved Battlefield.
Speaker 3: But I think hardline notoriously you love Oh yeah, you
Speaker 3: just got you know, go cops.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm always saying.
Speaker 2: I uh think that I get well, I get that
Speaker 2: EA likes Battlefield because at one point it did print
Speaker 2: money for them, not as not Call of Duty print money,
Speaker 2: but it did make a lot of money for them,
Speaker 2: and they want that back.
Speaker 3: So whatever I feel like Boulefield is the is that
Speaker 3: sports team that out of nowhere had like a year
Speaker 3: where weird shit happened and they somehow almost made it
Speaker 3: to the finals, and that it was a pure cosmic
Speaker 3: fluke and everyone knows it except for the people behind
Speaker 3: that team, who believed that it was a sign of
Speaker 3: pure like genuine skill and strategy and they've been trying
Speaker 3: to get back into the finals since then, but they
Speaker 3: just don't know that it was luck. Yep, that is
Speaker 3: Bowlefield in Call.
Speaker 1: Of Duty like Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 3: Yeah you had your moment, it was you almost did it,
Speaker 3: but that was it. Your time has passed. Now you've
Speaker 3: got to stop trying to chase that man. They're driving
Speaker 3: it into the ground.
Speaker 1: Even like and even when they're good, like there's like
Speaker 1: a rot in it.
Speaker 2: Like Battlefield of three or four, one of those was
Speaker 2: like really good and beloved, but it didn't work for
Speaker 2: like a year and a half because the network the
Speaker 2: net code was really bad, and people don't remember that.
Speaker 2: But I wrote a lot of stories about that game,
Speaker 2: and it was broke as hell, and it's.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, and this was the one that people love now.
Speaker 3: So I always played Battlefield until inevitably, this happens with
Speaker 3: every game. I'll get killed by I'll die, and then
Speaker 3: the kill count We'll just pan to a tree across
Speaker 3: the map and I'll just be like, oh great, I
Speaker 3: had no fucking idea. There was a tree across the
Speaker 3: map with a dude in it, and he killed me.
Speaker 3: I'm out, I'm under the start in this game.
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then I guess I'll try one more time and
Speaker 2: run for five minutes to get killed immediately the second
Speaker 2: I see an enemy.
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, I get it. Skill issue, Okay. Next story.
Speaker 2: Mario Day begins early with two new Nintendo Switch Online Games.
Speaker 2: This is from Chris going in at VGC. Nintendo has
Speaker 2: added two more Game Boy games to its Switch Online
Speaker 2: retro library. Donkey Kong and Mario's Pitcross have both been
Speaker 2: added to the Game Boy app to celebrate the upcoming
Speaker 2: Mario Day, which is on March tenth, because mar One
Speaker 2: zero kind of looks like Mario.
Speaker 1: Donkey Kong is Donkey Kong ninety four as it's.
Speaker 2: Colloquial colloquially referred to as because it came out in
Speaker 2: ninety four, and it's very different from Donkey Kung even
Speaker 2: though it presents itself as the Donkey Kong ar Kid game.
Speaker 2: At first, it's one of the best puzzle platformers ever.
Speaker 2: It's really really fantastic. And then pick Ross is Pitcross.
Speaker 2: Mario pick Ross is very good. You know, if I
Speaker 2: were to tell you to go play anyone Pick Ross game,
Speaker 2: it probably wouldn't be this one.
Speaker 1: But there's nothing wrong with this one. It's also good.
Speaker 2: So this is probably the extent of what happens for
Speaker 2: Mario Day, right tim Maybe they have like some other
Speaker 2: like because they've alread announced the Mario Wonder Bundle for
Speaker 2: the Switch O lead. These things have kind of been preceded,
Speaker 2: and I'm not expecting them to come on Mario Day
Speaker 2: and be like, here's a ton of other stuff happening,
Speaker 2: And it feels like they got to kind of keep
Speaker 2: it low key because they got the switch to happening.
Speaker 3: What if they just put out like an old school
Speaker 3: style E three style, just a very very obviously high
Speaker 3: res version of a Mario that has never been featured
Speaker 3: in any game, and we're like, who is this, lad
Speaker 3: and you know, you know how they did that? Was
Speaker 3: it Mario one two eight or like whatever the the
Speaker 3: tech demo was where it's like way too many Marios
Speaker 3: and everyone went, that's next Gen's that's for a new console.
Speaker 3: But if they did that with a switch too, and
Speaker 3: it was just like a new version of Mario.
Speaker 2: With the switch to we now finally have the power
Speaker 2: to render handsome Mario, like like we have weird Mario
Speaker 2: in Mario Maker, like we made him tall and lanky
Speaker 2: and weird, and now we have handsome Mario through the
Speaker 2: power of Nvidio DLSS or it's.
Speaker 3: Just normal Mario with his like rotond mid section and
Speaker 3: tiny arms like t Rex arms. And they're like, with
Speaker 3: the power of the switch too, we are now able
Speaker 3: to render Mario's mustache like any none never before, and
Speaker 3: it just zooms directly into his mustache and you can
Speaker 3: see like individual hairs pixelated.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a very excited Japanese man who's.
Speaker 2: Like yosh hyper realistic belly hair. Yeah, absolutely, that's what
Speaker 2: Marios needs.
Speaker 3: We put a tuft of hair on Mario's chest that
Speaker 3: now it pokes out from his overalls. So when you
Speaker 3: jump in the yeah, you'll see you thanks moving.
Speaker 2: It's like a shut up man now rendering with suggestive
Speaker 2: body hair.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that is the future for this franchise, and.
Speaker 3: We have fully realized Mario's Italian roots by giving making.
Speaker 1: Him way here. I am yeah, I'm not expecting much.
Speaker 2: Oh, Dan, this is probably it for Mario Day, although
Speaker 2: it looks like or it sounds like the GB kids
Speaker 2: and Dan Reiker got some plans because they're both streaming
Speaker 2: their blocks on Mario Day, so you could tune in
Speaker 2: here and celebrate Mario the way God intended by playing
Speaker 2: a bunch of video games.
Speaker 1: So hang out with us for Mario Day. We'll take
Speaker 1: care of you.
Speaker 2: Everybody, all right, keeping going here. RoboCop Expansion Sticks Sequel
Speaker 2: and Cuthulu co op horror game are part of everything
Speaker 2: that was revealed at Nacon's Connect twenty twenty five event.
Speaker 2: Nacon is a video game publisher. They I think may
Speaker 2: be best known at this point for putting out that
Speaker 2: RoboCop game a few years back. They have a new
Speaker 2: one that's kind of an expand alone.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that here. From Aaron Bontius at GameSpot.
Speaker 2: While June and July have become a popular time of
Speaker 2: the year for gaming live streams, Nacon got the party
Speaker 2: started earlier this week with the twenty five edition of
Speaker 2: nacon Connect. The annual live stream followed the same format
Speaker 2: as previous editions, as several trailers for upcoming games were
Speaker 2: shown off, there were updates for current titles, and new
Speaker 2: gaming hardware was teased. You know, the big games here
Speaker 2: are that RoboCop.
Speaker 1: Let's see here, what's it called? Exactly? RoboCop Rogue City,
Speaker 1: Unfinished Business.
Speaker 2: It is, oh my god, essentially an expansion for that
Speaker 2: RoboCop game. But you don't need to buy that RoboCop game.
Speaker 2: It's expanded alone. Sam, what are your thoughts about Unfinished Business?
Speaker 3: It's kind of bit cheeky in it. We've we've realized
Speaker 3: we can get more money out of this is the
Speaker 3: unfinished business that we referencing him.
Speaker 1: I mean, God, you tell me.
Speaker 3: RoboCop got half the job done. That's not RoboCop behavior.
Speaker 3: When RoboCop does something, he does it to completion. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying on the streets, I'm between the sheets.
Speaker 2: That's a robo cop Fox. This is what we're saying here.
Speaker 2: Everybody deal with it. They're gonna have a fleshy version
Speaker 2: of RoboCop. I think where he's when he was just Murphy.
Speaker 2: You can there's gonna be flashbacks apparently where you could
Speaker 2: just play as man RoboCop before he becomes RoboCop, And
Speaker 2: I'm like, who wants that's who?
Speaker 1: What's the flesh man? Not? Not me?
Speaker 2: Partly RoboCop getting another like sort of spin off to
Speaker 2: exploit the character even more is the most RoboCop thing. Actually,
Speaker 2: tam that that was a franchise that was it was
Speaker 2: one thing and then immediately became the most merchandized thing
Speaker 2: you could possibly imagine.
Speaker 1: So this is right in line with that character there was.
Speaker 3: On robot Cop crossovers.
Speaker 1: Yes, of course, absolutely.
Speaker 3: RoboCup versus teenage Mutant Ninja Total.
Speaker 1: I think RoboCop Versus Terminator is definitely something that's happened.
Speaker 1: I was a Super Nintendo game.
Speaker 3: I was RoboCop, not ever met Judge Dred. I feel
Speaker 3: like that should be a game that happens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I feel like should make a band.
Speaker 1: It all happens.
Speaker 3: Someone should make like a Smash Brothers game, but with
Speaker 3: only like nineties uh protagonists and antagonists. So it's like
Speaker 3: roll Bowl Cop Yeah, Brothers yeah or whatever is early yeah,
Speaker 3: and then and then for Simon Phoenix, John Spottan and
Speaker 3: then the Bad Boy.
Speaker 1: Of Fire emblem is still in.
Speaker 3: That fucking roy and they've got swords that everyone's getting
Speaker 3: cooked because there's still being assholes about everything. Uh.
Speaker 2: Other kind of big announcements up that Kaulu the Cosmic Abyss. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a co op horror game. Looks pretty interesting. It's
Speaker 2: coming out in twenty twenty six, a new sticks game.
Speaker 2: You know these sticks games.
Speaker 3: No, that's Blinks, isn't it.
Speaker 2: That's Blinks S T y X. It's like an album
Speaker 2: looking guy in Stealth games. This is coming out in
Speaker 2: the falls. Isn't that a bad?
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah? Stix is a band yeah, absolutely, what is that?
Speaker 1: Come sail Away, Come sail away with Me? I think
Speaker 1: they sing that.
Speaker 2: And then rens Sport, which is like a new sim
Speaker 2: ultra realistic racing game. It's coming to PS five and
Speaker 2: Xbox Series X. And of course Nacon also makes like
Speaker 2: video game controllers and peripherals, so they're going to have
Speaker 2: a steering wheel to go along with this. This looked
Speaker 2: pretty good, although I wonder if there's a lot of
Speaker 2: space left over in that genre after Forts and Motorsport
Speaker 2: and after Grand Tarismo.
Speaker 3: Did they show anything of hell is Us?
Speaker 2: They did, They did show off more of hell hells Us.
Speaker 2: I'll read the little tidbit here from Darren. One of
Speaker 2: the big games coming from Nacon this Yeri is hell
Speaker 2: is Us, an action RPG that aims to blend action
Speaker 2: with the thrill of expiration. The new deep dive into
Speaker 2: the game showed off more of the dystopian world that
Speaker 2: you'll get to travel in, and what makes it particularly
Speaker 2: interesting is that it won't contain the usual hallmarks of
Speaker 2: open world game design. Developer Rogue Factor says that instead
Speaker 2: of quest markers and the like, hells Us will require
Speaker 2: players to rely on their observation, skills, reasoning, and intuition
Speaker 2: to progress through the world and uncover its deepest secrets
Speaker 2: as part of its player player plattering design philosophy. That's
Speaker 2: what it says here. I wonder if that's plattering. Yeah,
Speaker 2: how are you plattering place? We're going to plat up
Speaker 2: the play up the players.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I guess I could give you a bunch of it
Speaker 4: and they're like, this is tasty. They're sat on there
Speaker 4: and the platter for the players. But how player hyphen plattering?
Speaker 4: That implies that you're plattering up the player.
Speaker 2: Hell Is Sill officially launch a PC PS five and
Speaker 2: Xbox Series X and S on September fourth. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: game continues to look pretty promising, So.
Speaker 3: Yeah, good time I see it. I'm like death Stranding too,
Speaker 3: and then it goes to head off. I'm like, hell yeah,
Speaker 3: nay can.
Speaker 2: Like it's like one of these you know, mid mid
Speaker 2: tier publishers that I'm like, oh, we're doing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they like do They will do like a bunch
Speaker 3: of stuff that's kind of predictable, but oh yeah, it's
Speaker 3: like reliable, and then they'll usually pop out something that's
Speaker 3: like a bit of a risk for them, which I
Speaker 3: think is a good good strategy for them, and then
Speaker 3: they have that like backbone of I think they actually
Speaker 3: released a Judge Dread game out or something like that
Speaker 3: at once.
Speaker 2: I might have made that up though, but I think
Speaker 2: they're one of these publishers has a variety of games,
Speaker 2: and then they still do license games and they can't
Speaker 2: get the licenses that are a little bit more affordable
Speaker 2: because they're not as active. So yeah, I think this
Speaker 2: is a completely fair strategy for coping of the size.
Speaker 2: And then you know test Solar Crown is coming back
Speaker 2: things like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think they also have like a bunch of
Speaker 3: weird like side sport games like cycling and that kind
Speaker 3: of stuff. I think I think they do w r
Speaker 3: C as well. Maybe so they have like a under
Speaker 3: obviously they smash hit success from the last five years
Speaker 3: has been a Lord of the Rings, Gollum.
Speaker 2: My future black Club game, Yeah, made mad Bank. We
Speaker 2: just got to get Lucy back on for that one.
Speaker 3: When it's my black Club? What am I doing for
Speaker 3: Black Club? What's going?
Speaker 2: Honestly, I would love that because I'm gonna be coming
Speaker 2: up again soon. Maybe you should have one first that
Speaker 2: sounds fantastic to.
Speaker 3: Me give extra time.
Speaker 2: Uh huh yeah, please see I delay, you know, commute
Speaker 2: my sentence.
Speaker 1: A little bit. Please. All right, let's let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break.
Speaker 2: When we come back, let's maybe wrap up the week's
Speaker 2: news on that Tony Hawk stuff. There's a final confirmation
Speaker 2: on how that game's gonna work. Let's kind of discuss
Speaker 2: that before we wrap up the week. Right after this,
Speaker 2: all right, we're back into it, still here with Tomorro,
Speaker 2: who's saying I'm Jeff Grubb. Tonyaks pro Skater three plus
Speaker 2: four begins to face backlash. This is from Zack Swizen
Speaker 2: at Kotaku. Oh no Tony.
Speaker 1: Hawk's pro Skater three plus four as it was officially.
Speaker 2: Announced earlier this week, and while it looks to be
Speaker 2: a great remake of some popular PS two era skateboarding games,
Speaker 2: a shot out him for not doing that like the
Speaker 2: sixth Generation, one big change involving timed challenges in Tonyak's
Speaker 2: Pro Skater four might be a deal breaker for some players.
Speaker 2: After some teases and rumors, Tonyawk's pro Skater three plus
Speaker 2: four was announced on March fourth. The game, like twenty
Speaker 2: twenty ten, the Ox pro Skater one plus two is
Speaker 2: a full remake of two pass games from the Tony
Speaker 2: Hawk franchise, specifically three and four. The new remake is
Speaker 2: being developed by Iron Galaxy and is set to launch
Speaker 2: in July, on July eleventh, exactly, and while it will
Speaker 2: feature the old maps, songs, skaters, and tricks that fans
Speaker 2: remember from the classic games, there will be at least
Speaker 2: one big change involving Tonix pro Skater fours career mode.
Speaker 2: The news here is, obviously we've talked about this all week.
Speaker 2: They've confirmed it that this is how it will work.
Speaker 2: Kotaka was able to confirm with Activision that Tony Oak's
Speaker 2: pro Skater three plus four will not include the original
Speaker 2: career mode seen in the OG version of Tonyaks pro
Speaker 2: Skater four on the PlayStation two. Instead, like in the
Speaker 2: first three games, each Tonyhawks pro Skater four level will
Speaker 2: feature a list of changes or challenges to compete in
Speaker 2: a two minute run. The original four did not have
Speaker 2: that two minute time or it was kind of you
Speaker 2: just go skate around the world, do things that you're
Speaker 2: on your own time. Here they are going to rework things,
Speaker 2: and this is the streamlining that they talked about in
Speaker 2: the like the pr blast that came out when the
Speaker 2: games trailer launched, and they will have to rework a
Speaker 2: lot of those things because some of them would be
Speaker 2: a little cumbersome to do in two minutes. Now, dam
Speaker 2: I can't help but feel personally like, I bet this
Speaker 2: is going to be an improvement because Tony Hawks proceeds
Speaker 2: is it was a good game. I like that game
Speaker 2: a ton but that was their first time, like really
Speaker 2: trying the open way of doing things, and I think
Speaker 2: some of the design of those missions weren't just wasn't great,
Speaker 2: and so I think if you have a chance to
Speaker 2: edit that and do something more in line with the
Speaker 2: way things work with the other games at that time.
Speaker 1: I'm at least in a wait and see mode.
Speaker 2: But a lot of people like the way Tonyhoks Firstkater
Speaker 2: four worked and they're not happy with this, and so
Speaker 2: it's becoming me a hanging point, a point that people
Speaker 2: are getting hung up on.
Speaker 1: How are you feeling?
Speaker 3: I mean, just for some context, GameSpot published a news
Speaker 3: article I believe after this, written by Eddie mccooch who said,
Speaker 3: when in the headline, being at Tony Hawk's four remake
Speaker 3: isn't just limited to two minute levels.
Speaker 1: Right, and it was about like there's the free skate mode.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's like other modes available to it like games.
Speaker 3: But understands that Tony Hawk's Pro Skate three and four
Speaker 3: have shared features set that aims to unify the two
Speaker 3: games objectives who players the complete will be based on
Speaker 3: a timer for both games. That said, the game has
Speaker 3: a free skate mode with no tim at all. The
Speaker 3: game also has speed run and single session modes. So
Speaker 3: is the thinking is the is the issues that the
Speaker 3: fact that this is being changed in the career mode
Speaker 3: and that's it? Or is it just the fact that
Speaker 3: this is being changed at all because doesn't having the
Speaker 3: option to do it elsewhere, it won't be it won't.
Speaker 2: Be the option to do it elsewhere like the stuff
Speaker 2: that was in for so so here's like the way.
Speaker 1: For kind of work.
Speaker 2: You would skate up to a dude, maybe it was
Speaker 2: bam Margera and you see this time yeah not this time.
Speaker 2: It definitely confirmed he's not in the game. But maybe
Speaker 2: it's like someone like Bammargera and you say, hey, what's
Speaker 2: going on? He tells you to do a thing and
Speaker 2: then it's HiT's fully voiced things like that. So I
Speaker 2: think there's speculation from some people that they didn't want
Speaker 2: to have to like re record voice lines or change
Speaker 2: the characters for people they weren't going to bring back
Speaker 2: for this game, and so instead let's just rework things.
Speaker 2: So it's it's a way to avoid a certain kind
Speaker 2: of work that they didn't want to do. I think
Speaker 2: that's the probably fair. There's probably something to that.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And yet I still think that this is probably going
Speaker 2: to lead to a better game. Again, that's just my
Speaker 2: personal feeling on it.
Speaker 1: So they they you won't be able to have.
Speaker 2: The exact same experience that you got from Tony OK's
Speaker 2: pro Skater for it will be substantially different. H And
Speaker 2: so people are like, hey, I and that's the one
Speaker 2: I like the most. So a lot of people started
Speaker 2: playing Tonyok with Tony Ook's pro Skater four. To them,
Speaker 2: it was always this no time limit thing because after
Speaker 2: that they stuck, they stuck with that way of doing things,
Speaker 2: and so they're they're missing out on something that they
Speaker 2: really like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see what the justification is from the Iron
Speaker 3: Galaxy side, because yeah, Iron Galaxy, those those those those fools,
Speaker 3: no games, right, like, and they they would no doubt
Speaker 3: know that this is something that people are going to
Speaker 3: have a response to. So I'm waiting for the day
Speaker 3: that they can drunkenly talk about it on a giant
Speaker 3: bomb couch or something like that. But yeah, there's gotta
Speaker 3: be some justification for it. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: I understand why people could be upset about it, because
Speaker 3: if you're bringing these games back, you're kind of leveraging nostalgia,
Speaker 3: and if you're changing a significant part of it, you're
Speaker 3: watering down that nostalgia. And before people are able to
Speaker 3: get their own hands on it, they don't like the
Speaker 3: idea of the thing that you're telling them will feel
Speaker 3: like the thing that used to be not feeling like
Speaker 3: that from the outset. So I can understand it, but
Speaker 3: I do also wonder what the justification is from a
Speaker 3: pure business and gameplay design and execution. The standpoint not
Speaker 3: saying that I'm into it. I would prefer it to
Speaker 3: come out in the exact way that Tony Hawk's perverts
Speaker 3: wanted to, but can't.
Speaker 2: I'm a tonally uprofate and I want to. I actually
Speaker 2: want I want this editing personally. You know, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of like just dumb missions that they started doing
Speaker 2: around this time, things that are like and some stuff
Speaker 2: that will age poorly that you like, they wouldn't want
Speaker 2: to have. They have to change anyhow because it makes
Speaker 2: references to like gendered slurs and things like that.
Speaker 3: So I'm an SSX tricky perve and you know, well,
Speaker 3: we haven't had anything good in years, right, right.
Speaker 2: And you're in the boat that like now Tony OKX
Speaker 2: pros skater fur purists are going to be in where
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, if I want to play that game
Speaker 2: the way I want to play that game, I got
Speaker 2: to go back to the original. And I appreciate that
Speaker 2: people are going to be like, oh, I'm feeling left out,
Speaker 2: and that's a terrible feeling.
Speaker 1: That's a terrible feeling. I get that. So I sympathize
Speaker 1: with people.
Speaker 2: I just can't help but personally feel like, uh, I'm
Speaker 2: probably gonna like this game a lot regardless of the changes.
Speaker 1: So but who knows, I could be surprised.
Speaker 2: I just we go through this dance every time when
Speaker 2: things like this get announced, and then people see something
Speaker 2: and it kind of sets off the alarm bells for them,
Speaker 2: and maybe you know, I'm not saying this has happened
Speaker 2: this time, but traditionally what happens is we overstate the problem,
Speaker 2: then we play the game, and then we never mentioned
Speaker 2: the problem again because that wasn't actually an issue, and
Speaker 2: then we discover something else to be upset about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, continuing it should completely divert everyone's attention
Speaker 3: by changing the title of the game to Anthony Hawk's
Speaker 3: pro Skate A four and five, and then people will
Speaker 3: be like, I can't believe they did that. It's gone woke,
Speaker 3: and then no one else will care about any other
Speaker 3: thing happening in there.
Speaker 2: There's differently, you know, time limits are woke. So yeah,
Speaker 2: this is the most woke Tony Hawk game so far
Speaker 2: in Nvidia slammed for line about budget graphic graphics cards.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, but they're selling out anyway. It sounded like
Speaker 2: a miracle. I think this came from Kataku. Sorry I
Speaker 2: didn't write that down, everybody. It sounded like a miracle.
Speaker 2: And Vidia's new budget g Force RTX fifty seven graphics cards,
Speaker 2: priced at just five hundred and fifty dollars that's budget
Speaker 2: these days, would perform even better than last generation's sixteen
Speaker 2: hundred dollars RTX forty ninety. That was the claim CEO
Speaker 2: Jensen Wang made on stage at CES twenty twenty five
Speaker 2: a couple of months ago. It turns out that that
Speaker 2: was mostly bullshit, but the RTX fifty seventy is already
Speaker 2: selling out regardless despite major price hikes. Basically what happened here,
Speaker 2: Tam is they made big promises for the fifty seventy
Speaker 2: a lot of their cards, the entire fifty series, and
Speaker 2: they were making those claims based on a if you
Speaker 2: have all of the extra technology, including these cards turned
Speaker 2: on in a game that supports it, you will get
Speaker 2: performance that is potentially better than a forty ninety, which
Speaker 2: costs a lot more money.
Speaker 1: That is.
Speaker 2: Not really the case, even in the best case scenario
Speaker 2: maybe here or there. But the other side of that
Speaker 2: is these things are really hard to find. You can't
Speaker 2: get it for five hundred and fifty dollars because it's
Speaker 2: selling out at the higher prices already. So it's like,
Speaker 2: there's no reason for any of these companies that to
Speaker 2: produce these cards, MSI, whoever else, to drop the price.
Speaker 1: They are just going to keep selling.
Speaker 2: So I think a lot of people are pinning the
Speaker 2: hopes on AMD coming in providing some competition that could happen,
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know if Nvidia is going.
Speaker 1: To feel a lot of pressure here to do.
Speaker 2: Something better next time because have been rewarded, and we
Speaker 2: know how these companies are when they try something and
Speaker 2: it works, they're just they're not going to just keep
Speaker 2: doing that. They're going to try to push the line
Speaker 2: even further next time.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: So I was at that press conference at CS where
Speaker 3: they were talking about this stuff and revealed the new
Speaker 3: batch of cards, and I was really really fascinated to
Speaker 3: see how much of the cards they broke down within
Speaker 3: the context of things that were nothing to do with
Speaker 3: video games. Yeah, which is which is a I think
Speaker 3: a good sign of where in the video is as
Speaker 3: a company right now, where games are and where the
Speaker 3: games are and their priorities as well. So the stuff
Speaker 3: that they talked about most in they shut off that
Speaker 3: one tech demo that was brief like a minute or two.
Speaker 3: The thing that they talked about most was the AI
Speaker 3: potential of these cards to revolutionize cause and the one
Speaker 3: that they went on for a really long time about,
Speaker 3: which was fascinating but also like telling in that nothing
Speaker 3: to do with games is how it's going to change
Speaker 3: the way factories work because AI's will and that card,
Speaker 3: the devices that are running that card will be able
Speaker 3: to like map out you know, your warehouse and then
Speaker 3: tell autonomous robots how to get around them without colliding
Speaker 3: into each other, and whilst also factoring in people. They also,
Speaker 3: like us, talked about it in the frame in the
Speaker 3: context of architecture, where the cards are being used to
Speaker 3: render like buildings in cities with much more ease than
Speaker 3: they used to be. That is all to say that
Speaker 3: it does suck for a lot of people who expected
Speaker 3: something out of these cards from a gaming standpoint, but
Speaker 3: that is no longer the focus of what Nvidia does
Speaker 3: and video is no longer a small or a medium
Speaker 3: sized gaming chip manufacturer and company. They are one of
Speaker 3: the most pristine and high value corporations that exist, and
Speaker 3: the reason they are that way is because they are
Speaker 3: at the bleeding edge the forefront of AI and also hardware.
Speaker 3: Like manufacturing hardware, the game part of it. Us being
Speaker 3: upset that we can't get more frames or like can't
Speaker 3: access this thing, get this thing easily is nothing to them.
Speaker 3: They still care about video games a lot but the
Speaker 3: kind of applicability of their devices has moved far beyond
Speaker 3: making sure that you can run cyber punk in four
Speaker 3: K with raytracing turned on, you know.
Speaker 2: Yep, And this is why I'm always I do get
Speaker 2: a little bit worn down by the constant shrieking from
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 1: Of coverage of PC hardware.
Speaker 2: But it's clearly like one thing that might be able
Speaker 2: to check in video because people are going to keep
Speaker 2: buying these cards and then the video is going to
Speaker 2: keep making unimaginable amounts of from selling it as as
Speaker 2: an AI chip vendor, and so you know when gamers next,
Speaker 2: this goes on there and you know, just rakes them
Speaker 2: across the calls for this stuff, that stuff does begin
Speaker 2: to register with a wider audience and it can maybe
Speaker 2: flip the script a little bit.
Speaker 3: So I hope there is competition from a m D,
Speaker 3: Like I know, a MD seems like there is, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: exactly like, but Nvideo kind of ran away with it
Speaker 3: for a really long time. And even as someone who
Speaker 3: has and video products and I'd like a lot of
Speaker 3: the stuff that they have made, I want to see
Speaker 3: another company hold their feet to the fire. And it
Speaker 3: seems like a m D is kind of like gaining
Speaker 3: ground with high power but a little more affordable consoles.
Speaker 2: That are at the hard way that's you know, that's
Speaker 2: available their money and the like two hundred three dollars range.
Speaker 1: Not that in video cares about that anymore, but yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah exactly. I think that the next step for
Speaker 3: a lot of this stuff is like PC manufacturers and
Speaker 3: you know, these eye by Powers and all these other
Speaker 3: kind of companies that make pre build PCs kind of
Speaker 3: fring that stuff again because I know that there's a
Speaker 3: period of time when you know, uh, when you'd go
Speaker 3: to one of these custom build PC websites just never
Speaker 3: would find anything from AMD. It would just be like
Speaker 3: Nvidia and G four Pure. But if this can if
Speaker 3: there can be a little more competition, just to keep everyone,
Speaker 3: you know, honest, I'm all for that. I would love
Speaker 3: to see AMD push push back up. Yep.
Speaker 2: The uh For me, it's like when a video was
Speaker 2: making all these claims. I me, you know immediately, like
Speaker 2: you know, if you pay attention to the space, you
Speaker 2: know not to trust those things. This is a salesman
Speaker 2: trying to sell you something, and so I just I immediately
Speaker 2: throw that stuff out it doesn't even like get into
Speaker 2: my head. Really it is, oh, that is probably a lie.
Speaker 2: It's or at the very least it's meaningless to me.
Speaker 2: I need to see actual data about these things. So
Speaker 2: I often can be guilty of assuming everyone else has
Speaker 2: that same sort of position of well, of course the
Speaker 2: salesman is lying to you, all salesman lie, and you know, really,
Speaker 2: and we're gonna hear the next story.
Speaker 1: Let's do it now.
Speaker 2: You know, AMD allies a little bit. You know, AMD
Speaker 2: or eightyon ninety seventy GPUs arrived. But retailers are selling
Speaker 2: out fast. You know the way The third line is
Speaker 2: that they are saying that their cards also cost a
Speaker 2: certain amount of money, and they know they're not going
Speaker 2: to they know they're going to cost more than that,
Speaker 2: and they have so far mostly been charging more than
Speaker 2: that through their third party partners that are actually producing
Speaker 2: the cards. The thing isn't the price that they say
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 1: It's more than that. And you know what, of course
Speaker 1: I knew that was going to be the case. Most
Speaker 1: people pay attention to the space. No, that's going to
Speaker 1: be the case.
Speaker 2: But you know, AMD can say that it could be
Speaker 2: the headline and then the reality is something very different.
Speaker 2: But yeah, at the very least ninety seventy and the
Speaker 2: ninety seventy XT from AMD in this five hundred, five
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars range, and again that is the
Speaker 2: manufacturer suggested retail price, which is not a real thing
Speaker 2: in this range of ostensibly being in that price point.
Speaker 2: These are very good cards that really will maybe kind
Speaker 2: of put if maybe not put pressure on Nvidia because
Speaker 2: who knows if they feel pressure from competition in the
Speaker 2: home consumer enthusiast.
Speaker 1: Enthusiast GPU space.
Speaker 2: But it'll give people an alternative and that is something
Speaker 2: so at least the changes are happening.
Speaker 1: There all Right's.
Speaker 2: See Jackbox Games will soon be playable on smart TVs
Speaker 2: for free. This is from Blair Marnell at GameSpot. Jackbox
Speaker 2: Games has been around in multiple incarnations over the past
Speaker 2: three decades thanks to its addictive party games, including You
Speaker 2: Don't Know Jack Now. Jackbox is, a library of gaming titles,
Speaker 2: is making the leap to smart TV's courtesy of the
Speaker 2: new jack Box app. Via Jackbox games official site, The
Speaker 2: company announced that the app is a result of a
Speaker 2: partnership with Amazon Web Services game lift Streams, which will
Speaker 2: utilize the cloud to launch Jackboxes titles on smart TVs
Speaker 2: and other platforms.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: The announced announcement doesn't mention any specific titles that will
Speaker 2: be included. It does note that the Jackbox app will
Speaker 2: offer a small collection of ad supported games for free.
Speaker 2: The company indicated that it plans to eventually offer the
Speaker 2: full catalog of Jackbox games titles as a subscription service,
Speaker 2: but didn't offer any hints as to how much that
Speaker 2: would cost.
Speaker 1: Or when it might come to fruition.
Speaker 2: Damn, this is like like sort of the perfect use
Speaker 2: of Hey, let's stream games through the cloud to your TV.
Speaker 1: Because when you need.
Speaker 2: These games, you need them and then you don't like
Speaker 2: think about them outside of that. So when you get
Speaker 2: together with the family and son, you're like, hey, everyone
Speaker 2: wants to keep hanging out. We all got together, let's
Speaker 2: do something fun. Is anyone have any ideas? And I go, darn,
Speaker 2: I wish I'd brought my Steam deck in the dock
Speaker 2: so we could play jack Box together. That would be great. Well,
Speaker 2: now you just can do that. This is that sort
Speaker 2: of the ideal genre for this. So I'm pretty excited
Speaker 2: about this. I think this is a fantastic idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they like hafstep that way with the
Speaker 3: iPad iOS stuff. Yes, you're right, because some of that
Speaker 3: stuff is like just cost from your device to screen.
Speaker 3: I downloaded Survey Scramble Jackbos Survey Scramble, which is basically
Speaker 3: are great. I've not played a single second of it
Speaker 3: because I was expecting to play it with people and
Speaker 3: then there's nobody in my life that wants to play it,
Speaker 3: so you know, whoever at you know, that sucks. But
Speaker 3: apparently it's like family fortunes with that. So I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'll give that a go. But I was prepared to
Speaker 3: just beam it from my for my iPad to the
Speaker 3: to the TV. It's been easy, pasy, but having it
Speaker 3: easily more available on TVs is a very very smart
Speaker 3: thing for them to do. I'm surprised it took them
Speaker 3: this long, honestly because it's such a no brainer. And
Speaker 3: it's the one thing I do think about is like,
Speaker 3: how are they going to package that stuff up? Because
Speaker 3: a lot of the the jackbox stuff recently has been
Speaker 3: very like piecemeal and like you need to own this
Speaker 3: version and that version and then buy extra this, that
Speaker 3: and the other, and it's like, if you're going for
Speaker 3: a mainstream audience, you've got to be careful with that
Speaker 3: stuff because that could be the kind of thing where
Speaker 3: if your first, if everyone's first impression is this is
Speaker 3: just a money making scheme, then they're just kind of
Speaker 3: bounce out of that and kind of like write off.
Speaker 3: But if they come in good and like honest and ah,
Speaker 3: you know, small about the way they try and integrate
Speaker 3: themselves into people's home TV lives, it could become like
Speaker 3: a genuine, like you know, stable thing for people to
Speaker 3: want in their TVs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right that the business model will
Speaker 2: be kind of the make or break here for whether
Speaker 2: or not this makes sense, because you know, hey, I
Speaker 2: get everything wants to be a subscription. If you can
Speaker 2: make a subscription, you should make a subscription. If I could,
Speaker 2: you know, I do subscribe or I do have a subscription.
Speaker 2: People could charge with my personal Patreon and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: so I do it too. But if you could have
Speaker 2: an option here where it's like, oh, you could buy
Speaker 2: a lifetime pass to the stuff for I don't know,
Speaker 2: eighty bucks, ninety bucks, And I mean there's a lot
Speaker 2: of content there. A while they've made like twelve of these,
Speaker 2: they have older games they can maybe put in there.
Speaker 2: They do have survey screen now there's a lot of stuff,
Speaker 2: and so it's like, Oh, if there's a way to
Speaker 2: just buy a lifetime subscription, that would be a really
Speaker 2: cool thing to see. But I don't know if I
Speaker 2: expect them to do that instead of just giving like
Speaker 2: charging eight bucks a month, instead of helping people forget
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 3: It'll be so much smart if they had like a
Speaker 3: a good subscription style thing where it was like, you know,
Speaker 3: you've a lifetime thing like eighty dollars, or like a
Speaker 3: cheap like monthly thing like five dollars.
Speaker 1: Yep, all right, when that happens, I'm might give it
Speaker 1: a shot. I like good jack Box stuff a lot.
Speaker 2: Last story here, GTA six could help Xbox have one
Speaker 2: last hurrah this generation, according to an analyst. This comes
Speaker 2: from Eddie McCoo at GameSpot. Microsoft has lost this console
Speaker 2: generation to Sony when it comes to pure sales, but
Speaker 2: according to one analyst, the release of GT six could
Speaker 2: be a last hurrah for the Xbox series X and
Speaker 2: S consoles. Reese Elliott, who's been on the show, shot
Speaker 2: at the Reese of Media Research set in an interview
Speaker 2: that although Sony will emerge as this consoles dictor, Microsoft
Speaker 2: could benefit substantially from GT six's launch in terms of
Speaker 2: hardware sales, especially of the less expensive Series S console.
Speaker 1: Let's just get your initial reaction there. Do you think
Speaker 1: that sounds right to you?
Speaker 3: I think I don't know what would specifically elevate Microsoft
Speaker 3: above uh, like this competition, where.
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be relative Tony.
Speaker 2: I think it'd be relative to Xbox sales, book relative
Speaker 2: to Microsoft's own.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, So I think like it makes sense
Speaker 3: if people you always assume and because it's been precedent,
Speaker 3: like people who traditionally won't be buying consoles will when
Speaker 3: a GTA game comes out look into buying consoles. And
Speaker 3: I think the Xbox Series S is currently the most
Speaker 3: affordable console next gen that could theoretically be able to
Speaker 3: play GTA the next GTA without any obvious compromises. So
Speaker 3: for that perspective, I'm sure that Xbox sales will get
Speaker 3: a lift definitely relative to Xbox currently and over the
Speaker 3: past few months, like a new GTA cheaper price that's
Speaker 3: going to dig up the numbers. I don't think it necessarily.
Speaker 3: The framing of this is weird because it frames it
Speaker 3: to begin with in the kind of context of the
Speaker 3: consoles performing each individually and Sony being the highest. I
Speaker 3: don't think it's going to do anything for Microsoft to
Speaker 3: move the needle and like close the gap in any
Speaker 3: meaningful way. I think from a pure how do we
Speaker 3: finish this generation as strong as possible, or how do
Speaker 3: we give the Xbox a bump? The Series S is
Speaker 3: in a good position to do it, and if Microsoft
Speaker 3: plays their cards right, maybe they can create some sort
Speaker 3: of ladder that people who are considering a Series S
Speaker 3: they see a value in actually just taking a few
Speaker 3: steps up the rung of the letters and going to
Speaker 3: the X instead. I think if that if there is
Speaker 3: any possibility of Microsoft benefiting from the release of GTA
Speaker 3: six on current contos, they need to if they haven't
Speaker 3: already really strategized to make sure that the pathway, the
Speaker 3: upgradeable pathway, or the kind of the perception people have
Speaker 3: when they're about to buy an Xbox is that for
Speaker 3: a little bit more, I can get a considerably more
Speaker 3: powerful console with way more available to me. That should
Speaker 3: be the priority to maximize that bump, that they might get.
Speaker 2: Yeah, people are pointing out in check college football did
Speaker 2: give a pretty decent bump to Xbox Series as relative
Speaker 2: to its sales before that. I think we can expect
Speaker 2: the exact same thing for GTA six. I guess the
Speaker 2: question then would be, TAM, do you think Microsoft anticipating
Speaker 2: that would throw extra weight behind marketing the Xbox Series
Speaker 2: s as a big GTA thing or are they just
Speaker 2: gonna be like, yeah, that's great, we'll accept that, but
Speaker 2: our focus is elsewhere selling more Call of Duty, selling
Speaker 2: more stuff in Minecraft.
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 3: I think? I think strategically it makes sense for them
Speaker 3: to align themselves a bit better with rock Star now
Speaker 3: that they have opportunity. Like any in oportunities, I think
Speaker 3: every company wants to be as close to as Rockstar
Speaker 3: and GTA aligned as possible. I think it makes a
Speaker 3: lot of sense for Microsoft to be like, Hey, this
Speaker 3: is the cheapest way you can play GTA, because it's true.
Speaker 3: I also feel like they should take the They could
Speaker 3: probably take the opportunity to be like, hey, our network
Speaker 3: infrastructure means that it's the best place to play GTA online,
Speaker 3: which I assume will you know, I don't know if
Speaker 3: six is going to launch in a major way in
Speaker 3: terms of messaging with the future of GTA online. But
Speaker 3: we've got to believe at some point GTA online is
Speaker 3: going to get some sort of bump that makes it
Speaker 3: a little closer aligned to GTA six. And if Microsoft
Speaker 3: is already in a position where they're like, our servers
Speaker 3: are the best trust us you can our networking rules,
Speaker 3: like our party system is the place to play, is
Speaker 3: the best way to play these games online, they could
Speaker 3: get a bump from that as well.
Speaker 2: Yep, Kay and I win in chat since he's wondering
Speaker 2: about GT six even running on series s because it
Speaker 2: puts the border K three order K three. The issue
Speaker 2: was there a local multiplayer right being able to run
Speaker 2: because in that game, two players could go in the
Speaker 2: opposite direction inside that world at the same time, and
Speaker 2: that was always going to be difficult for the yes
Speaker 2: because of the RAM. I think GTA six in terms
Speaker 2: that's a game, well, I think RAM actually might be
Speaker 2: an issue for that, but the CPU would probably be
Speaker 2: the bottleneck for that, and the series has a really
Speaker 2: decent CPU.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and rock Star knows how to figure this stuff out.
Speaker 3: Is if anyone can.
Speaker 1: Like see if I was on Xbox three sixty Yeah,
Speaker 1: if anyone.
Speaker 3: Can squeeze juice out of it. And also there's a
Speaker 3: bunch of people who don't really pay attention to the
Speaker 3: differences like this, It's going to be a few people
Speaker 3: out there who are like, I don't care. I just
Speaker 3: want to play the game. I don't care that I
Speaker 3: have to turn you know, subsurface scattering off or whatever
Speaker 3: it may be wherever fre bells and whistles.
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, that does it for the headlines. Let's
Speaker 2: get to the poll questions. Yesterday's poll question do you
Speaker 2: use discord after the news of they maybe go in
Speaker 2: public or see how ingrained it is into the community,
Speaker 2: and sixty eight percent said yes, I do use Discord.
Speaker 2: Thirty two percent do not use discord for an audience.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, with a lot of console players,
Speaker 2: the fact that so many people use Discord, I think
Speaker 2: it's a sign that it really just has become an
Speaker 2: accepted standard inside of gaming, and we view.
Speaker 3: That it definitely has. But I think what people who
Speaker 3: work at these or like I'm making decisions, should also
Speaker 3: keep in mind is that audience has no issue with
Speaker 3: going somewhere else. If we're fickle, right, Yeah, we're very
Speaker 3: very fickle. And if anything new and shiny appears that
Speaker 3: offers the same services, that is less shitty about stuff
Speaker 3: and has less friction, people will move like it happens constantly, yep.
Speaker 1: Because it's like you can take communities with you like that.
Speaker 2: The kind of community that's with you in a discord
Speaker 2: will will be transferable. That's the kind of community you
Speaker 2: can be like, no, we're over here now, and people
Speaker 2: will jump on the new Thanks. They still want to
Speaker 2: be a part of that group. It's very important to them.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: I got a new pool question we'll ask here in
Speaker 2: a second. Before we do that, though, Tam, you mentioned
Speaker 2: some stuff you've been working on, You've been traveling, You've
Speaker 2: got a lot of happening. Tell people where they can
Speaker 2: find all that stuff, where they can find you on
Speaker 2: the internet and all that good stuff.
Speaker 3: Pretty much ever at tomorre h on Blue skymtomorrow, dot
Speaker 3: cage dot com and then Instagram tomorrow h follow me
Speaker 3: there where the my xpression thirty three stuff is up
Speaker 3: written preview on the site and YouTube channel Game Spots
Speaker 3: YouTube channel for the actual video preview between me and Lucy.
Speaker 3: We also started our play through our split fiction yesterday
Speaker 3: me and Lucy bum YouTube saying yeah, it's it's it's
Speaker 3: on Giant bum YouTube. It's it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: We're going to be doing that weekly until we finish
Speaker 3: the game. Oh, it's about two and a half three
Speaker 3: hours yesterday and it was it was good. So please
Speaker 3: go watch that and and you know, some comments in
Speaker 3: there so people know that others care about it. Juice it.
Speaker 3: Juice those numbers. Yeah, and then I believe we have
Speaker 3: upfl a and are we doing revenge? It is revenge something.
Speaker 1: No, this week it's going to be power bomb cast because.
Speaker 3: Became a naughty boy.
Speaker 1: He is a very naughty boy.
Speaker 3: Yes, I saw that. I saw that.
Speaker 1: All right, excellent.
Speaker 2: We have new new pool question I posted this jan
Speaker 2: if you want to show it off to people, and
Speaker 2: we can do that real quick. It is Visual Titan
Speaker 2: Fall three question mark. And then your options are let's
Speaker 2: see here a very sad cat who is crying, a
Speaker 2: glover sitting on a bridge and miserable, or a little
Speaker 2: girl screaming and crying. We'll get the results of that
Speaker 2: and discuss it on Monday here on Games Mornings. Here
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Speaker 1: We'll kind of just do it when we do it.
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Speaker 1: We'll there shows active most stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the shows actively in production that you haven't seen
Speaker 3: as part of that block. They are going through. Some
Speaker 3: of them have been through piloting. We shot one of
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Speaker 1: I don't need that show. Okay, I know that, I
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So anything that you like, anything that you think
Speaker 3: would improve it, tweak it. We're listening. I'm not necessarily
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Speaker 2: Yeah, then really, just you know, tune into the show
Speaker 2: every day and then just don't tune away because there
Speaker 2: will be more stuff following the show every single day
Speaker 2: of the week, except for Tuesday, where the BombCast will
Speaker 2: start things off unless we put something in front of
Speaker 2: the bomb Cast.
Speaker 3: We need to start Delight Club. Remember when we talked
Speaker 3: about doing Delight Club.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean I got grubs gimmicks every week, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, I want to do that.
Speaker 1: I also do want to do license License to Thrill
Speaker 1: or whatever.
Speaker 2: There's a whole bunch of stuff that we mentioned before
Speaker 2: that's like, now I got this dedicated thing, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: just start sprinkling those in here and there.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of cozy games that could work well
Speaker 3: for Delight Club coming up.
Speaker 2: So Yep, without a doubt, looking forward to just doing
Speaker 2: a ton more stuff.
Speaker 1: Everybody.
Speaker 2: It's been a lot of fun shout outs to the
Speaker 2: crew figuring everything out.
Speaker 1: Also, you know, I don't mentioned it in Spot after
Speaker 1: Dark Captain later today.
Speaker 3: Yepcame so off the dock is happening later today, so
Speaker 3: tune in for that. Jean Luca is going to be
Speaker 3: helming along with Jan's going to be there, I think
Speaker 3: helping and Jake yeah, so yeah, all right sometimes tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Wh's saying thank you so much for hanging out with
Speaker 2: me today and talk about video games. Man, I really
Speaker 2: appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me as always. I'll see you
Speaker 3: hopefully next week, and that's something really bad happens to me.
Speaker 2: Thank you everybody for watching and listening. You are the
Speaker 2: best audience in gaming. Until next time, have a good one,
Speaker 2: take care of yourself, and goodbye.