Speaker 1: Oh, friend of that are, hello, and welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: This is the Cult of Conspiracy and my name is Jonathan,
Speaker 1: I'm Jacob and uh it's cult member live show night. Baby,
Speaker 1: Let's get it.
Speaker 2: Let's do it, y'all.
Speaker 1: Let's fucking go go.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so I was thinking, you know, there was a
Speaker 1: couple of things that I kind of wanted to mention
Speaker 1: just going into the show, just to get everybody's thoughts.
Speaker 1: So I know that everybody's just joining right now, so
Speaker 1: we can probably wait a couple of minutes for all that.
Speaker 1: But dude, I feel like this is just what a
Speaker 1: time to be alive. And I know I feel like
Speaker 1: we say that a lot, but like there's new the
Speaker 1: randomness at some of this shit, the way that it's
Speaker 1: coming out, the way that it's transpiring. It's like, dude,
Speaker 1: there's fucking orbs falling out of the sky and supposedly
Speaker 1: whenever they first observed it. Fucking I'm just gonna go
Speaker 1: into it because why not.
Speaker 3: I had a feeling you wouldn't be able to stop yourself.
Speaker 3: So let's talk about the shiny metal ball with some
Speaker 3: etchings that fell from the sky allegedly.
Speaker 1: Let's go I mean, we don't know, but they do
Speaker 1: know as far as whenever they were observing this ball,
Speaker 1: this metallic kind of ball, and they said it was
Speaker 1: almost like Russian doll like that you would take like
Speaker 1: the outer part off and then there'd be more inside
Speaker 1: or something like that.
Speaker 2: If they did an X ray owner or something, didn't
Speaker 2: they dude.
Speaker 1: And this is where it gets really strange. So the
Speaker 1: guy or the person that found it, I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was due to a chick, but the person
Speaker 1: that found it said that whenever they went to go
Speaker 1: pick it up, it weighed about four four and a
Speaker 1: half pounds, and then like later that day or later
Speaker 1: that week or something like that, they went to go
Speaker 1: weigh it again and it was like twenty pounds. Did
Speaker 1: you hear about that part?
Speaker 2: Did not? I just saw the first little thing on it.
Speaker 3: Today, I haven't dove into it too much, and I'm
Speaker 3: not even immediately just saying that it's complete hokum and bullshit.
Speaker 2: I'm not. I don't know. I really haven't looked into it.
Speaker 1: But is that your initial instincts whenever shit like this
Speaker 1: happens is to assume that it's bullshit before diving into it.
Speaker 3: It depends on where it was found and what kind
Speaker 3: of tests they're doing on it, which will usually tell me, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: So that's for instance, the little uh, the little alien
Speaker 3: mummies that they had in Mexico for a while, right
Speaker 3: this and they were so real, they were so real.
Speaker 3: Then why was he showing them in Mexico of all places?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: And that's just allowed to have alieners of that onion?
Speaker 3: They did the X rays on it and there's a
Speaker 3: bone struction all that. Then they did more testing. The
Speaker 3: femurs were made out of chicken bone. Uh, like it's complete,
Speaker 3: it's that was complete bullshit. But like that's why he
Speaker 3: went to Mexico to showcase and rather than like a
Speaker 3: country that's worth a fuck.
Speaker 1: Well, and that's the the problem with a lot of
Speaker 1: this alien type stuff is that there's absolutely people out
Speaker 1: there that are trying to distinguish these stories. Like just
Speaker 1: take a like a fucking you know, just something to
Speaker 1: just douse the fire that is these stories. Because if
Speaker 1: you find a little one foot or two foot you know,
Speaker 1: mummified alien type creature, like imagine the governments out there
Speaker 1: they're like, wait a second, We've been talking to these
Speaker 1: fucks for a long time, But we can't let the
Speaker 1: masses know that we've been in communication with them. We
Speaker 1: don't know where they're coming from. We don't know if
Speaker 1: it's another planet, another dimension, like another realm or whatever, right,
Speaker 1: and so they can't be having that kind of information
Speaker 1: out And that's why so many of these military contractors
Speaker 1: they're having to like they have to go through the
Speaker 1: chain of command to even have a chance at telling
Speaker 1: some of their stories. And it's like, I feel like,
Speaker 1: if we're talking about aliens, that should just be out
Speaker 1: in the open anyway, because they're not in control of
Speaker 1: that anyway.
Speaker 3: Right, But that's my point, Right, These mummified alien remains
Speaker 3: and shit were complete bullshit and they were completely glued
Speaker 3: together parts of things that the guy was trying to
Speaker 3: spin and make look like it was something it wasn't.
Speaker 3: And it's like, okay, And that was my first thing
Speaker 3: when he said he had these these ancient alien mummies
Speaker 3: or whatever. My initial instinct wasn't to write them off.
Speaker 3: I was excited then whenever I saw he's giving a
Speaker 3: huge expose in Mexico of all places, and it's like, wait,
Speaker 3: is that where they were found?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 2: No, it's like wait, pause, hold on.
Speaker 3: Regardless of where they were found, they could have been
Speaker 3: found anywhere on Earth, doesn't matter, just for the sake
Speaker 3: of the conversation. So you find these mummies and these
Speaker 3: they're aliens for sure, and you go to Mexico for
Speaker 3: the showcase. You don't go to America, you don't go
Speaker 3: to England, you don't go to France or Germany or
Speaker 3: like a country that's like considered first world. You go
Speaker 3: to Mexico. So right off the rip, I'm like, that
Speaker 3: kind of smells fishy, will have it.
Speaker 1: There's a there's a lot of things in Mexico that
Speaker 1: you can do there that you can't do here, So
Speaker 1: he might he might have to. I mean, you're not
Speaker 1: even allowed to get fucking stem cells here. You have
Speaker 1: to go to Mexico for that kind of shit. And
Speaker 1: there's like a lot of a lot of that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff you got to go down to Mexico for.
Speaker 1: So I would say that it's I'm not going to
Speaker 1: say that United States and Mexico is what and what
Speaker 1: as far as regulation or I'm not saying that. I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: you know what, you got to go a few miles
Speaker 1: south of the border in order to be able to
Speaker 1: reveal this. That way, your your government or your country
Speaker 1: is not being held responsible for this this kind of knowledge.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: No, he went there so that there wouldn't be experts
Speaker 3: to do real testing on it to show that it
Speaker 3: was a skeleton made of chicken bones. That's my point.
Speaker 3: It was complete bullshit. That's why he released it in
Speaker 3: this country. So when we take that kind of thing,
Speaker 3: this orb this, this sphere like it is. Again, I
Speaker 3: haven't not much research on to it. I don't know
Speaker 3: the levels of it. But where is it being showcase
Speaker 3: right now? What country are are the guys that are
Speaker 3: doing the testing on it from? What's their background, what's
Speaker 3: their credentials? What laboratory is running these tests? Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: these things will clearly tell you if this is bullshit
Speaker 3: or if there's something to it.
Speaker 1: Well, let's let's find out. I actually didn't do too
Speaker 1: much research on it at first because I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, let me I want to talk about it
Speaker 1: on the show and get everybody's thoughts on it. It
Speaker 1: could be bunk, could be bullshit, It could be Internet lower,
Speaker 1: it could be you know what I mean, could be
Speaker 1: any number of things. But people like high ranking people
Speaker 1: have found what they label as metamateial plenty of times
Speaker 1: in the past. You know, we've talked about Diana Pasoka
Speaker 1: and herb Bok book. Oh what was it? Like a
Speaker 1: cosmic American or something something like that American cosmic, That's
Speaker 1: what it was. And she talks about like how she
Speaker 1: was able to go out into the Nevada deserts and
Speaker 1: stuff like that to be able to find meta material.
Speaker 1: And she's not the only one. That's just one instance,
Speaker 1: but this is certain types of metal that can shift
Speaker 1: and transform and almost like adapt to its environment. Almost
Speaker 1: makes it look like the material that you're messing with
Speaker 1: is gonna sound kind of crazy, is almost consciously aware itself,
Speaker 1: almost like it is some kind of biological thing, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's what really gets me going. So let's see here.
Speaker 5: What about the bugas sphere that was discovered in the
Speaker 5: forest in Columbia or were you distracted by all the
Speaker 5: other headlines like I was? And they use AI to
Speaker 5: decode the language, Wait till you see what it says.
Speaker 5: So on Thursday, May first, Jose Velasquez is an X
Speaker 5: ray specialist and he did a series of X.
Speaker 6: Rays on this.
Speaker 5: They claimed that this fell after it received a ten
Speaker 5: thousand volt discharge. Now they say they are sixteen microspheres
Speaker 5: inside and there are three layers of different densities. This
Speaker 5: is the most outer edge, So he is saying that
Speaker 5: that means they are different materials. So they say that
Speaker 5: dark towned material is less dense, and they believe that
Speaker 5: it is possibly a porous material. Now the people in
Speaker 5: Buga claim that this was flying around their town back
Speaker 5: in March, and that it actually was recovered back on
Speaker 5: March second, and that when they touched it it had
Speaker 5: the temperature of a refrigerator. Now they counted thirty two
Speaker 5: points around the edge and that the materials used all
Speaker 5: together for this seem to be different metals. But they
Speaker 5: have ruled out the fact that this is ornamental because
Speaker 5: they believe that the way it was built was to
Speaker 5: definitely house whatever is inside. It seems too intentional to
Speaker 5: be simply ornamental. Now, the X ray expert says it
Speaker 5: appears to have no welds or joints, and that this
Speaker 5: is absolutely different from anything he has ever studied in
Speaker 5: the past. But the guy who claims to have found
Speaker 5: it said that he was contacted by the government but
Speaker 5: he refused to sign it over because it would never
Speaker 5: be seen again. So I'm guessing he just turned it
Speaker 5: over to a team of scientists, but they're seeing even
Speaker 5: in the X rays, there are no visible signs of
Speaker 5: any techniques by humans. So interpreting the text through AI,
Speaker 5: it says the origin of birth through union and energy
Speaker 5: in the cycle of transformation, meeting point of unity, expansion
Speaker 5: and consciousness individual consciousness.
Speaker 6: So what do you guys think?
Speaker 1: So okay, so I did. I didn't see that until
Speaker 1: now where this guy says it's already been proven a
Speaker 1: hoax made by a movie prop company in South America,
Speaker 1: So we might have to do a little research on that.
Speaker 2: Have ever, Like what, that's so crazy?
Speaker 1: I hate that you're such a negative Nancy whenever it
Speaker 1: comes to aliens.
Speaker 2: I want you to believe. I want you to believe
Speaker 2: like me. I believe in Alien's dog I one hundred
Speaker 2: percent do.
Speaker 3: But also, yeah, okay, so this fear falls after receiving
Speaker 3: a ten thousand volt discharge from fucking what what shot
Speaker 3: ten thousand volts at this thing?
Speaker 1: Could have been knocking down, could have been lightning bolt.
Speaker 2: Oh, if that's what it is, got struck by lightning.
Speaker 3: Then all right, cool, that is a lot more than
Speaker 3: ten thousand volts.
Speaker 2: Okay. First off?
Speaker 3: Second off, well, they plugged in the things to AI
Speaker 3: and they've already decoded it. And if you look at
Speaker 3: what it decoded, it's all about human unity and consciousness.
Speaker 3: And it's like, well, right off the rip, this is
Speaker 3: starting to sound like bullshit. You plugged in AI to
Speaker 3: these little scratches and the little symbols on here, and
Speaker 3: you could already tell what language it's from, and it's like, okay, bro, what.
Speaker 1: So Okay, So I just did a little just did
Speaker 1: a little uh duck dug go search And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying anything about it being a hoax as a movie
Speaker 1: prop or anything like that. I can actually share the
Speaker 1: screen and I know we have a bunch of messages
Speaker 1: that I definitely want to get to. But I mean
Speaker 1: I just typed in Bouga sphere and that's what it's
Speaker 1: known as. Right, So you got the Sun and Express
Speaker 1: dot Co, which is a UK website.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's the same guy, dude, it's the
Speaker 3: same guy. Mousan gained attention in twenty seventeen when he
Speaker 3: claimed to have discovered alien mummies in Peru finding.
Speaker 2: Oh yep, this is the same.
Speaker 1: Fucking wait where are you seeing that?
Speaker 3: I pulled up a Daily Mail article. I was talking
Speaker 3: about the sphere because I again, I haven't dug into
Speaker 3: it or anything that.
Speaker 2: Let's so let's talk about it.
Speaker 1: Okay, So oh, here we go. That Mussan I didn't
Speaker 1: How do you remember that name? I don't remember that
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 3: Scroll down. I was reading it from the article twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3: It's talking about this is the same guy that found
Speaker 3: the chicken bone alien mummies, and it's.
Speaker 2: Like, well, I'm not happy that this is fake.
Speaker 3: I was hoping that we had another crash landing of
Speaker 3: some type, or maybe this is like an alien equivalent
Speaker 3: of a drone or something like that that we recovered,
Speaker 3: and it's like obvious alien tech that would make me
Speaker 3: extremely happy.
Speaker 1: But again, oh, hold on, hold on, he didn't find it.
Speaker 1: Somebody gave it to him.
Speaker 7: Ah.
Speaker 1: Right, So let's actually read the article so we can
Speaker 1: understand what the Fu's going on here. It says scientists
Speaker 1: have released This was like a couple days ago. May seventh.
Speaker 1: It says scientists have released the first X ray images
Speaker 1: of a mysterious fear shaped object recovered in Columbia, which
Speaker 1: locals claim is a is a is of alien origin.
Speaker 1: The so called UFO was spotted in March over the
Speaker 1: town of Bouga, zigzagging through the sky in a way
Speaker 1: that defies the movement of conventional aircraft. The object was
Speaker 1: recovered shortly after it landed and has since been analyzed
Speaker 1: by scientists who discovered it features three layers of metal
Speaker 1: like material and eighteen microspheres surrounding a central nucleus they
Speaker 1: are calling a chip. Doctor Jose Luis Velasquez, a radiologist
Speaker 1: who examined this sphere, reported finding no welds or joints,
Speaker 1: which would typically indicate human fabrication. He and his team
Speaker 1: concluded it is of of artificial origin and in that
Speaker 1: it shows no evidence of welding and its internal structures
Speaker 1: is composed of high density elements. More testing is needed
Speaker 1: to establish its origin. The sphere also displayed symbols that
Speaker 1: the team compared to ancient scripts, including runs, Ogham and
Speaker 1: Mesopotamian writing systems. Using AI to assist in deciphering the design,
Speaker 1: the team interpreted the message to read the origin of
Speaker 1: birth through union and energy in the cycle of transformation,
Speaker 1: meeting point of unity, expansion and consciousness, individual consciousness. That's interesting.
Speaker 1: It says we interpret it as a message to humanity,
Speaker 1: encouraging a collective shift in consciousness to help mother Earth,
Speaker 1: especially considering the current issues with pollution and environmental decline.
Speaker 1: The researcher said, But it says right here, where was that?
Speaker 6: So?
Speaker 1: It says the object was recovered on March second by
Speaker 1: a group of people who said it weighed four and
Speaker 1: a half pounds and had the temperature of a refrigerator
Speaker 1: when touched. David vellez L Potrow, one of the individuals
Speaker 1: who recovered the object, recently spoke on Mussan Television, hosted
Speaker 1: by journalists ufologist Jamie Mussan, whose research has stirred controversy
Speaker 1: for nearly a decade. Mussan gained attention in twenty seventeen
Speaker 1: when he claimed to have discovered alien mummies in Peru,
Speaker 1: findings that remain unconfirmed, but velez L Potrow has claimed
Speaker 1: that the sphere is authentic, found in the woods of Bouga.
Speaker 1: He told Mussan that the man who found it, Jose,
Speaker 1: felt sick for days after touching the object. When I
Speaker 1: poured water on it, it started to smoke and the
Speaker 1: water vaporized instantly, he said, suggesting the interior was hot
Speaker 1: with the extra the exterior was cold. However, there are
Speaker 1: no official reports or scientific analysis to confirm claims of
Speaker 1: a spear falling over Buga, only eyewitness reports.
Speaker 2: That doesn't even make sense. If it's a touch, you
Speaker 2: could touch in it.
Speaker 3: It's like a refrigerator, but if you pour water on
Speaker 3: it immediately sizzles off, Like you can't that can't both
Speaker 3: be true at the same time.
Speaker 1: Only it almost seems like it could only exist from
Speaker 1: another another, another dimension or something like.
Speaker 3: That, right, or that it's eyewitness only and that they
Speaker 3: gave it to a guy who's known for hoaxing, and like, you.
Speaker 1: Know, well anyway, it says Vallezo. Potro said the government
Speaker 1: contacted him to hand it over hand over the sphere,
Speaker 1: but he refused, saying that it would never be seen again. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: I mean I understand why this would be, you know whatever.
Speaker 1: You know, how how you're kind of looking at it
Speaker 1: and like, ah, this is clearly a fake. I'm some
Speaker 1: I think it's just because I want to believe that
Speaker 1: I have an open mind in listening to the story
Speaker 1: and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: I want to believe this, Like, I know it doesn't
Speaker 3: sound like it right now, but whenever they found any
Speaker 3: other type of crash ordinance or crash site or an
Speaker 3: experience with a living entity of some type, you know,
Speaker 3: I want to believe it because I do believe aliens
Speaker 3: are real, like alle hundred percent of the interdimensional variety,
Speaker 3: of the interplanetary variety, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I believe they exist.
Speaker 3: When I first saw this thing, and again, this is
Speaker 3: the first time I've done any digging into it, and
Speaker 3: already it's starting to ring like it's a bit of
Speaker 3: a hoax. I hope I'm wrong. Maybe there is more
Speaker 3: to it, and this team will bring it to an
Speaker 3: actual laboratory somewhere. They'll get it away from the guy
Speaker 3: who is a known hoaxer, right, They'll get it to
Speaker 3: like an actual lab to do actual studies on it,
Speaker 3: and maybe there will be something more to it, I
Speaker 3: hope to God. But as of this moment, like, you know,
Speaker 3: why would you bring it there to that guy?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean a lot of people don't trust the government.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm bringing it to the government.
Speaker 3: There's labs that you can bring it to that aren't
Speaker 3: government operated or something like that. Or how about you
Speaker 3: bring it to a country where you see what I'm
Speaker 3: saying the mummy situation the same way. Why did he
Speaker 3: release them in Mexico rather than any other first world country?
Speaker 3: Because the Mexicans are not going to look any deeper
Speaker 3: into it, because another country will have actual scientists who
Speaker 3: will actually put it through scrutinies and he will actually
Speaker 3: show it to be bullshit.
Speaker 1: Isn't he? I thought he was Mexican.
Speaker 2: No, I thought the dude was from Venezuela. I could
Speaker 2: be wrong, old Mussan.
Speaker 1: So why would you bring it to the United States anyway?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know. The United States has a solid,
Speaker 2: massive ufologist group. And I don't mean the government entities.
Speaker 2: I mean like UFO believer groups that have real funding
Speaker 2: and real science behind like this guy. Okay, the same thing.
Speaker 3: Why would you Why don't bring this fear to an
Speaker 3: American lab to test it? Not a government lab, a
Speaker 3: lab that's like dedicated to fighting aliens.
Speaker 2: Let them run it through the ringer. Yeah, but that's
Speaker 2: that guy into a country that doesn't have good scientists.
Speaker 1: Right, But that's what that guy does. He's a ufologist.
Speaker 1: He studies all this kind of shit. And I mean obviously,
Speaker 1: I mean whether you trust him or not, I mean
Speaker 1: he's he's going to be as reputable and credible as
Speaker 1: the rest of the UFO, you know nuts out there
Speaker 1: like And I don't know. I I'm thinking with an
Speaker 1: open mind. I'm open to absolutely being a hoax or
Speaker 1: bullshit or maybe some kind of super old technology that
Speaker 1: some other country is trying to say that is a
Speaker 1: UFO and is some kind of tracking mechanism. Could be
Speaker 1: that nobody knows, but I don't know. I think it's
Speaker 1: pretty interesting, Jamie, what do you think about it, sir?
Speaker 1: There's that old man face trying to find the unmuted
Speaker 1: He's got a squint to find that unmute button. It's insane, dude,
Speaker 1: My face sucks.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 8: No, they actually did test it fake fake, just so
Speaker 8: you know. But also it was released in a place
Speaker 8: where Google wasn't a thing back then. It's not like
Speaker 8: it is now, right, It's not like everything's the algorithm
Speaker 8: and all that jazz is beneficial.
Speaker 1: So they actually did test it.
Speaker 8: It was found to be Paul's so it's it's fake news.
Speaker 1: What's your source on that, by the way, because I
Speaker 1: tried pulling it up and I couldn't find anything that
Speaker 1: was calling it a fake I mean just from skimming
Speaker 1: the article.
Speaker 8: I've pulled it up with four I'll have to pull
Speaker 8: it back up.
Speaker 2: I'll send it to you.
Speaker 6: I'll put it in the chat.
Speaker 2: Or whatever it's called.
Speaker 9: Okay, yeah, you know.
Speaker 6: I'll do that.
Speaker 1: That's why I was trying to pull up those Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I was trying to pull up like some decent,
Speaker 1: kind of credible, you know, source, because you're you're gonna
Speaker 1: get people like Jacob who's going to look at that
Speaker 1: and be like, oh.
Speaker 3: Clearly fake, clearly alive, and that's gonna be the article.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 8: I want to be some points. You both have points.
Speaker 8: So the actual metal is malleable. We recently discovered that
Speaker 8: that's actually new science in the last I'm wanna say,
Speaker 8: four to five years, and they found metal that it
Speaker 8: actually responds to certain temperatures and it's very malleable, so
Speaker 8: meaning it can go from uh like what they described
Speaker 8: at area fifty one and it does brumple up and
Speaker 8: it will straighten out it'll conform to an object that
Speaker 8: is true. So you're wrong on one pot, you're right
Speaker 8: on one pot. They're both you're right and wrong. But
Speaker 8: like it's it's crazy with sciences. I'm dumb, you know.
Speaker 8: So like I'm again, I'm taking in data.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm trying to find. Like I'm I'm
Speaker 1: like trying to scrounch the internet for anything that is
Speaker 1: trying to debunk it. And nobody, from what I'm seeing,
Speaker 1: is debunking that I just typed in Boga sphere hoax.
Speaker 1: And you're gonna get Unidentified Phenomena dot com, u A
Speaker 1: P watchers dot com, Daily Mail, there's a YouTube express,
Speaker 1: UFO feed the Sun. iHeart UAP watchers. So it's not
Speaker 1: like a lot of you're not gonna get CNN and
Speaker 1: on this, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8: You're not gonna get mainstream media in on anything that's
Speaker 8: actually like warranted as real stuff.
Speaker 1: And also this is this is new like relatively because
Speaker 1: all these articles are I'll pull it.
Speaker 8: I've seen it quite a few times because this was
Speaker 8: on JRI and I'm want to say twenty nineteen, Wow.
Speaker 1: We must be talking about different things then, because this
Speaker 1: was it said that it was just discovered in March
Speaker 1: of this year.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's the same story that was proposed years ago.
Speaker 2: Right, So.
Speaker 8: There's a lot of like fallacy on the internet.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys know this, right, thank you.
Speaker 3: And I mean, I'm not saying that everything that's ever
Speaker 3: on TikTok is fake, right, I'm not saying that there's
Speaker 3: a lot of good information that gets spread out and
Speaker 3: mass of sharing on social media.
Speaker 2: I'm with that one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: And again, I didn't know anything about this before I
Speaker 3: did a little search on it. The first search that
Speaker 3: I did on the Daily Mail showed these things and
Speaker 3: told this about it, and I was like, well, I'm
Speaker 3: not even saying one hundred percent it's fake as of
Speaker 3: this moment because of that one article. What I am
Speaker 3: saying is that it's smelling a lot like bullshit at
Speaker 3: this particular time. There may be more testing done here soon.
Speaker 3: But you're telling me that they also plugged in these
Speaker 3: languages into AI cipher, which fine, Fine, they're using AI
Speaker 3: to decode all kinds of things right now, I'm with you.
Speaker 3: It's all about unity and saving the planet and all
Speaker 3: of this. It's like, well, that's probably more horseshit.
Speaker 1: No, there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 3: No, but if that's what the aliens are trying to
Speaker 3: tell us about, then I'm just gonna write it off
Speaker 3: as bullshit like instantly, yeah.
Speaker 1: Really, Like you don't So you don't buy that they've
Speaker 1: ever like what was it like anytime they're over by
Speaker 1: some kind of military testing facility and they fuck with
Speaker 1: the nukes or the bombs or anything like that. You
Speaker 1: don't buy any of those stories that they're like preventing
Speaker 1: that shit from happening.
Speaker 2: No, No, See, that's the thing.
Speaker 3: I believe that they absolutely flew over a Russian nuclear
Speaker 3: site in an American nuclear site and armed it and
Speaker 3: was ready like one step away from launching them and
Speaker 3: then flew a way. I believe that one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: I do not believe that was to try to prevent shit.
Speaker 1: Oh so you are assuming to.
Speaker 3: Earth if they didn't have a purpose or a mission
Speaker 3: or a gold or trying to achieve.
Speaker 1: So you assume that they're maleficent.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying all of them.
Speaker 3: I'm saying that they probably have some sort of extraterrestrial life,
Speaker 3: aaron dimensional life whatever.
Speaker 2: That's like, good guys, doing good things, and.
Speaker 3: They probably have the ones that are assholes, who are warring,
Speaker 3: who are conquesting, who are trying to do bad things.
Speaker 3: I don't know either of those statements to be a
Speaker 3: one hundred percent fact, but I also believe in, you know,
Speaker 3: the dichotomy of the spirit, not just man's spirit but everything.
Speaker 3: So yeah, there's gonna be there's good and there's evil.
Speaker 3: And if an alien race is trying to reach out
Speaker 3: to us, it's the same thing as like a well, again,
Speaker 3: we're looking at through human lensing.
Speaker 1: But we don't know the spirit of any other entity
Speaker 1: on any other planet or realm, so it's hard to
Speaker 1: even say that you're talking about like Earth spirits.
Speaker 3: I'm saying there's gonna be good and evil either way
Speaker 3: this goes. There's a light, there's a dark, there's a white,
Speaker 3: there's a black, There's there's a Maleficent and a beligera
Speaker 3: all of this together. There's going to be two sides
Speaker 3: of this and gray areas in between, for sure.
Speaker 1: So why haven't they taken this out already?
Speaker 2: Why not? Why not?
Speaker 3: I don't know the answers to this, but I'm also
Speaker 3: not seeing one and being like, oh, he's here to
Speaker 3: save us. I am also equally not like, oh, he's
Speaker 3: here to enslave us. I'm not saying either. Or what
Speaker 3: I am saying is that if they came down here
Speaker 3: and dropped us a message of like, hey, y'all, you
Speaker 3: need to elevate yourselves and achieve unity, then like, oh,
Speaker 3: so this is probably hippie dippy bullshit, not actually aliens.
Speaker 1: I am one hundred percent performing a ritual tonight after
Speaker 1: we get off with the show, and I am calling
Speaker 1: on the alien entities to come and probe your ass tonight.
Speaker 1: That's what I really want to happen.
Speaker 3: And once you see that and maybe you like it,
Speaker 3: maybe you're like alien, Oh my god, I didn't know
Speaker 3: that you had such a sensual touch, like please. Whenever
Speaker 3: I get you in a corner of some type, you
Speaker 3: always revert to something like this. It's not mean like
Speaker 3: I'm trying to corner you, bro. We have different opinions
Speaker 3: on this.
Speaker 1: No, no, you're not corner me at all. I'm just
Speaker 1: fucking with you. Merlin. What are your thoughts on this?
Speaker 1: With your divine wisdom and your holy staff, Sir, I said.
Speaker 9: Pretty sure what Jamie was? What Jamie was referring to
Speaker 9: was the Bets spheres found in.
Speaker 7: Nineteen seventy four, which had some crazy properties and they
Speaker 7: were never able to actually figure out what it was
Speaker 7: all about or how I was able to do what
Speaker 7: it did. But the newsphere, I'm pretty sure I can
Speaker 7: make that in my shop, right. I've seen it, and
Speaker 7: I'm there's a way you can mold metal to where
Speaker 7: it will be really tough cold on the inside or
Speaker 7: hot on the inside, cold on the outside.
Speaker 9: I just don't think it's all that mystical. Yeah, Bud,
Speaker 9: with that fact they shout out with two ten thousand
Speaker 9: of volts of electricity.
Speaker 1: Like, well, I mean, metal is going to react to
Speaker 1: electricity regardless. But even still, I mean, if we're taking
Speaker 1: the story at face value, what they're what they have
Speaker 1: to say about it. As far as it being cold
Speaker 1: on the outside hot on the inside, I mean you
Speaker 1: could a refrigerator does that, you know, Like go inside
Speaker 1: of a refrigerator, it's pretty damn cold, and then you know,
Speaker 1: you touch the motor on the outside, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a little bit warm. But what I found probably the
Speaker 1: most interesting outside of the inscriptions on it, which seemed
Speaker 1: a little like what are those things called the the
Speaker 1: alien signs that show up in the field. What the fuck?
Speaker 3: I can't think of The also have their own version
Speaker 3: of hoaxers, and not all of them, not all credibility
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and but I but what I found most
Speaker 1: interesting or most you know whatever about that whole story
Speaker 1: was that it went from four and a half pounds
Speaker 1: to twenty pounds. Like if that's true, if that's true,
Speaker 1: then I don't know if we're making that in our garage.
Speaker 7: What's really crazy about the story is that archaeologists exploring
Speaker 7: Metow Tunnel or exploring tunnels, I know, the Temple of
Speaker 7: the Feathered Surfent, thirty miles from Mexico City, also found
Speaker 7: hundreds of mysterious metal spheres unknown purpose.
Speaker 1: Oh I have not seen that crazy.
Speaker 7: Part to me, I'm like, what, so we found this
Speaker 7: metal sphere, then there's hundreds of other metal spheres and
Speaker 7: the Temple of the Feathered Surfent serpent.
Speaker 1: Dude, and everybody seeing like the orbs and shit. Now,
Speaker 1: I wonder if they're like in relation in some kind
Speaker 1: of way, like the orbs or the I don't know.
Speaker 1: I know that there's a lot of people out there
Speaker 1: that don't believe that whatever the fuck is going on
Speaker 1: in the sky. But like I said last week, I
Speaker 1: saw twenty one of them in one night, over the
Speaker 1: span of like an hour and a half. And that
Speaker 1: ain't no stars, That ain't no satellites. They're going in
Speaker 1: all different directions, different speeds. They're weaving in and out,
Speaker 1: seeming like it's not just a straight shot wherever they're going.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what to do with that.
Speaker 1: So I know that, you know, Chris Bledsoe thinks they're angels,
Speaker 1: Electronic thinks that they're plea idiots. Some people think that
Speaker 1: they're just wandering stars. I've never seen that many damn
Speaker 1: wandering stars in one night. That's just me. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's just strange. But anyway, I don't know. So Merlin,
Speaker 1: are you, whenever we're looking into this story, are you
Speaker 1: more inclined to believe that it's a hoax or that
Speaker 1: there's something to it.
Speaker 9: I think there might be something to it.
Speaker 7: Like I'm inclined to believe it might be the government
Speaker 7: fucking with anti gravity materials, like sure, like it's we
Speaker 7: have to have alien aircraft, like they say we got
Speaker 7: alien aircraft they say, we have non human bio biologics
Speaker 7: and all, so we have to be reverse engineering these
Speaker 7: And the only thing that has kept us, that they
Speaker 7: say has kept us from doing it is the impact
Speaker 7: on humans that going.
Speaker 9: At those rate of speeds at those ankles.
Speaker 7: So one way you could test all this without putting
Speaker 7: a human life at risk is making it a drone.
Speaker 1: Sure, but I mean, are you even if you reverse
Speaker 1: even if you had the material in your hand and
Speaker 1: you're able to somehow reverse engineer it, I don't think
Speaker 1: you're going to be getting like tic tac activity where it,
Speaker 1: you know, stops and turns on a dime after going
Speaker 1: like faster than the speed of light or whatever the
Speaker 1: fuck speed it was going like, I don't know, I mean,
Speaker 1: and what the fuck do I know? I mean, they
Speaker 1: could be fifty one hundred, two hundred years, five hundred
Speaker 1: years in advance as far as their their technology goes.
Speaker 1: We don't know what they have necessarily kind of have.
Speaker 7: That technology you're already out in the stores. Like my
Speaker 7: thought was, how could we control an ion drive? You
Speaker 7: know those like fanless fans, like they create electricity around
Speaker 7: the air back in front and it pushes the air
Speaker 7: through mm hmm. Now what if you're created more powerful
Speaker 7: version of that, and then you found a way to
Speaker 7: control that, then you have an eye on drive, which
Speaker 7: is essentially anti gravity. You know what electric raised an
Speaker 7: object making it do crazy stuff.
Speaker 1: You know what's really sick about all this is that
Speaker 1: all of this is being funded by our tax dollars
Speaker 1: and it's all secret. That's what's really disgusting about the
Speaker 1: whole thing if you really think about it, Like and
Speaker 1: they want.
Speaker 3: To say with them using the tax dollars to look
Speaker 3: into futuristic tech that makes us an even more efficient
Speaker 3: killing force.
Speaker 2: I like that a lot. I'll support that.
Speaker 3: I don't like them giving tax breaks and extra bonuses
Speaker 3: and all of that to you know, political figures, and
Speaker 3: I don't like them wasting it on projects like that
Speaker 3: don't help other countries. Like what was that the lesbian
Speaker 3: story time in Iraqi? Sesame Street and all.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 1: I don't like that the bearded lady on ice talking
Speaker 1: about the bearded lady on Ice talking about what was
Speaker 1: she talking about?
Speaker 2: A good global warming?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like yeah, limits to that.
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily have a problem with, you know, them
Speaker 1: reverse engineering in order to strengthen our military per se.
Speaker 1: But at least say that you got some kind of
Speaker 1: alien technology. I want to hear how you got it.
Speaker 1: I want to I don't even need I don't even
Speaker 1: need to know what it's capable of. Just tell me
Speaker 1: that you're communicating with fucking aliens. That's all I want.
Speaker 2: They don't want to do that, man, because then exposes
Speaker 2: their hand.
Speaker 3: American military tech is at least forty to fifty years
Speaker 3: ahead of anything else that anybody's got, at least that
Speaker 3: they're willing to talk about too. Right, So the shit
Speaker 3: that we have is like the absolute cutting edge, like
Speaker 3: the absolute true cutting edge. We don't even have that
Speaker 3: shit out in the open right now because we don't
Speaker 3: want anybody trying to reverse engineer our secret weapons. So,
Speaker 3: like that's what I'm saying. If this hypothetically, let's go
Speaker 3: down that rabbit hole. Okay, let's say that maybe this
Speaker 3: isn't alien tech. Maybe this is an experiment at anti
Speaker 3: gravity drone technology. Okay, and it kind of got lost
Speaker 3: in the sphere somewhere and it dropped down in Colombia.
Speaker 3: But it's if not American, may let's say human origins.
Speaker 3: But like that's what the attempt was. Yeah, the government's
Speaker 3: not going to come forward and be like, oh, that's uh,
Speaker 3: that's ours. We need that back now, because everybody's gonna
Speaker 3: be like, what was that? Now, everybody's gonna try to
Speaker 3: do the same shit.
Speaker 1: But what it matter if they're the only ones with
Speaker 1: the technology and they're the only ones in communication with
Speaker 1: those direct aliens, Like, I don't even think that it
Speaker 1: would matter if they said it, because all right, you
Speaker 1: saw it, you know that it came from us. You
Speaker 1: know what its capabilities are. Good luck reverse engineering what
Speaker 1: you see in the sky that you'll never be able
Speaker 1: to get your hands on. And that literally we have
Speaker 1: help from divine forces. Let's just call them that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I hear you, I do, But I mean,
Speaker 3: even like our stealth bombers, America was the only crunchy country,
Speaker 3: the only country on earth to have the angry flying
Speaker 3: Dorito for years, because no one else knew how the
Speaker 3: fuck to make that happen until they did, until they
Speaker 3: saw one, and then they decided to start reverse engineering
Speaker 3: it on their own. Now other countries have this, or
Speaker 3: at least had the tech to happen that. It's the
Speaker 3: same shit we got to protect our assets and protect
Speaker 3: our future. So if this was some sort of a
Speaker 3: Lockheed Martin Boeing skunk work type situation RTX formerly Raytheon
Speaker 3: experiment that was being done, Yeah, they're not gonna come.
Speaker 2: Forward and say, oh, that's ours.
Speaker 3: They're just gonna let people look at it like it's
Speaker 3: a weird metal ball and there's just gonna be no answers.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Do you remember when we were we were still in
Speaker 1: my trailer shooting. This was years ago when we first
Speaker 1: really started, and there was that story that dropped about
Speaker 1: the Israeli intelligence officer guy who was like super high
Speaker 1: up and all of their like space technology or whatever.
Speaker 1: He said that he said that we absolutely have been
Speaker 1: in communication with extraterrestrials and that Trump Trump knows about this.
Speaker 1: Remember when we talked about that, and you know, and
Speaker 1: actually this this Israeli guy, you know what he called him.
Speaker 1: If you remember like the what I'm talking about extraterrestrials,
Speaker 1: there's a group name for him.
Speaker 2: I remember us having this conversation, but it has been years.
Speaker 2: The Galactic Federation, Uh yeah, yeah, yah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which I mean, and that's that's what they told
Speaker 3: us to call them, or if that's just what we
Speaker 3: call them, because that's the closest thing we could even
Speaker 3: figure to what that thing is like.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he said that as he was retiring,
Speaker 1: he was out the door as far as Israeli intelligence
Speaker 1: goes now. And that's what I find kind of peculiar
Speaker 1: about it, because if you're gonna get somebody from Israel,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that everybody in Israel is super religious.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that you have, you know, your people that
Speaker 1: are just like us, you know that are like I
Speaker 1: don't really care either way. Or maybe it's kind of
Speaker 1: spread and they got many different religions. I don't know
Speaker 1: what Israel be doing, but is it possible that this guy,
Speaker 1: I feel like he would have to face like a
Speaker 1: lot of scrutiny for saying that we're talking to aliens
Speaker 1: and they're from the Galactic Federation in Israel, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like just psychologically that the story kind
Speaker 1: of makes sense to me. Now, would it be a
Speaker 1: fucking hit piece by Israel? Short, everything, every single thing
Speaker 1: could be a hoax or a hit piece or a
Speaker 1: scare piece or something like that. But I found it
Speaker 1: very interesting that that guy was that top level, and
Speaker 1: he's the one that's disclosing it as he's retiring.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not even gonna say that him retiring
Speaker 3: makes it, you know, uncredible.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: A lot of these guys come forward after they get
Speaker 3: out of service and talk about these things that happened
Speaker 3: while they were in one hundred percent believe that the
Speaker 3: powers that be. I'm not just gonna say the US
Speaker 3: government Israel in America up until very recently, had been
Speaker 3: locked in. Right, So if we have contact with the aliens,
Speaker 3: why wouldn't Israel have contact with the aliens? We share
Speaker 3: everything with them and this whole thing, right, look at
Speaker 3: a fucking APEX, you know, you see what I'm saying
Speaker 3: a lot more well, like I said, up until recently.
Speaker 3: But that's the other thing too, And we don't have
Speaker 3: to go this direction tonight. Good cult members. But the
Speaker 3: fact that Trump is kind of turning the cold shoulder
Speaker 3: to Israel. Keep in mind that most most of our
Speaker 3: elect politicians in DC hold dual citizenship to Israel through
Speaker 3: APEX and all of that shit. So for Donnie T
Speaker 3: to be taking this stance means that he is pissing
Speaker 3: off not just Israel, most of the people working around him.
Speaker 3: Good is a very it's a it's a flex. There's
Speaker 3: there is a plan a foot happening here. You remember
Speaker 3: when he did this to Ukraine and everybody thought, oh,
Speaker 3: he's saying fuck Ukraine. No he's not, No, he's not.
Speaker 3: He just sent them like one hundred million dollars worth
Speaker 3: of shit. That was a flex. That was what is
Speaker 3: called the art of the deal. He's doing this so
Speaker 3: that they'll get a response from Ukraine and then we'll
Speaker 3: come in for mineral deals. And like this whole thing.
Speaker 3: For years, everybody was saying, like the whole Oh, we've
Speaker 3: given how much money to Ukraine for free? Y'all fucking
Speaker 3: thought this was free. You legitimately, as an adult, thought
Speaker 3: that America was giving a Ukraine all of this shit
Speaker 3: for free. No, it's always been for the resources. It's
Speaker 3: always been for the mineral deals. We may not have
Speaker 3: known that, but there was a deal going on in
Speaker 3: the back rooms.
Speaker 2: Also situation here.
Speaker 1: Also kickbacks involved with that too, But.
Speaker 2: Well there's money, there's money in there. Shit.
Speaker 3: My point is, though, him turning the coal shorre to
Speaker 3: Israel right now, I don't think that's a new stance
Speaker 3: that America is going to be taking. This is to
Speaker 3: garner a response to make a deal happen later on.
Speaker 3: I believe that he was on a buying gaza fuck
Speaker 3: it six months ago.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of a flex in and of
Speaker 1: itself right there, too, isn't.
Speaker 3: It This that's my point. That's my point. There is
Speaker 3: a deal being made right now. The public isn't aware
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 2: But that's the thing. It's the sleight of hand.
Speaker 3: Everybody cannot believe the bombastic things that Trump is doing
Speaker 3: right now, waiting six months whenever you're like, oh, oh,
Speaker 3: that's what it was for whether that's a good or
Speaker 3: bad thing.
Speaker 1: Oh, and how very well maybe a bad thing. Even
Speaker 1: the whole tariff situation is completely turned around. The stock
Speaker 1: market bounce back every like, the economy's recovering and all
Speaker 1: this other shit. And it's like everybody that was talking
Speaker 1: shit saying that World War three was going to happen
Speaker 1: because Trump is out there tariffing everybody. He's putting two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty or three hundred percent tariff's markup on everything. Chinese, Well,
Speaker 1: guess what they come to a deal Now it's only
Speaker 1: a forty five percent markup.
Speaker 2: It was for the deal.
Speaker 3: It was basically, you're playing poker, right, You're at the
Speaker 3: table and this guy just went all in.
Speaker 2: Are you gonna match that bet? Or are you folding?
Speaker 2: That's what's happening here. Now.
Speaker 3: Again, that doesn't necessarily mean that that's gonna shake out
Speaker 3: in a positive way, because going all in like that
Speaker 3: is a move that very well can bite you in
Speaker 3: the ass if the other dude's holding a higher hand
Speaker 3: than you a hundred percent.
Speaker 2: So, but that's my point. There's there's things happening here.
Speaker 3: There's movement happening that we are not privy to at
Speaker 3: this moment.
Speaker 1: I am very interested in having Brandon Croll back on
Speaker 1: the show to see what he has to what he
Speaker 1: has to say about Trump, you know, kind of parting
Speaker 1: ways with NETANYAHUO like that.
Speaker 2: Oh man, do you think he's gonna change his tone?
Speaker 3: No, No, it's probably just gonna hammer it down even
Speaker 3: more to him.
Speaker 2: That's the thing though, for certain people, not just Bring
Speaker 2: and Kroll, but for a lot of people, it doesn't
Speaker 2: matter what he does. He could cure cancer tomorrow, and
Speaker 2: there's going to be people talking about how this was
Speaker 2: a conspiracy to run out of business, all of the
Speaker 2: cancer doctors.
Speaker 3: And we've said that before. That is realistically happening in
Speaker 3: front of our eyes right.
Speaker 2: Now with a odd thing he does. He wakes up today,
Speaker 2: Oh well that was a part of the plan to
Speaker 2: do blah blah blah blah. It's like what bro what?
Speaker 1: Yeah? But I feel like you're gonna get that kind
Speaker 1: of skewed vision, not even just with certain people. I
Speaker 1: think everybody has that in them, depending on where the
Speaker 1: goodness is coming from. So if I told you, for example,
Speaker 1: that the aliens just came here and they brought a
Speaker 1: cure to every single cancer, you would look at that
Speaker 1: as skeptical as fuck, right, And you should and you should, right.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I think that we don't fucking
Speaker 1: know anything, dude. We really don't like we can hear
Speaker 1: these stories. We don't know the actual true story behind them.
Speaker 1: This is only what they all like us to hear.
Speaker 1: The reporters are more paid off now than they ever
Speaker 1: have been. Where we talk about like how you know,
Speaker 1: the big media conglomerates, whether it be the Hollywood studios
Speaker 1: or your local news or anything like that, it's all
Speaker 1: been caressed into three organizations, which I believe it's probably
Speaker 1: all one anyway. It's just you know, uh, portraying itself
Speaker 1: as three separate organizations because it's all mk ultra, it's
Speaker 1: all lies. Everything is.
Speaker 3: Legacy media is so far behind the curb, and everybody
Speaker 3: knows it now, Like, yeah, you got the boomer generation
Speaker 3: that's still just tuning into CNN and Fox News because
Speaker 3: they always have and they just don't know how to
Speaker 3: search the Internet for truth right now, I mean just
Speaker 3: conspiratorial truth. I mean like actual boots on the ground truth.
Speaker 3: Everybody has smartphones now, everybody is uploading everything they see
Speaker 3: to the.
Speaker 2: Internet right now.
Speaker 3: So if you want to find the truth of the situation,
Speaker 3: I promise you it's out there. But it's like, all right,
Speaker 3: to a quote a famous YouTuber here, it's like, okay,
Speaker 3: when we're talking about legacy media and things like that.
Speaker 2: You have a job or I'm sorry you people listen
Speaker 2: to you. So you have a job.
Speaker 3: We have a job because people listen to us. We
Speaker 3: are not the same.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little reverse there.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like, you go to work every day
Speaker 3: so that people will listen to you. People listen to us,
Speaker 3: so we have a job that there. It's a very
Speaker 3: different scope.
Speaker 1: Where we're entirely dependent on those who find what we
Speaker 1: talk about interesting and informational and probably not a little
Speaker 1: bit entertaining, hopefully.
Speaker 3: Right, and they are not. They get paid regardless of
Speaker 3: what their ratings look like. That's my point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not even about money anymore. With these it's
Speaker 1: absolutely money. It's it's so foregone. They have all the
Speaker 1: money in the world. Dude, there's more billionaires today than
Speaker 1: there ever haven ever.
Speaker 2: Ever before.
Speaker 3: And I don't mean just that, the whole situation of
Speaker 3: the whole people listening where it's not just me and you.
Speaker 3: It's to podcasters, it's to YouTubers, it's to uh, social
Speaker 3: media people. It's like, no, dude, we're not the same.
Speaker 3: Like Fox News is gonna say whatever the fuck Fox
Speaker 3: News wants to because they have to to please their
Speaker 3: board of directors. These content creators, who are getting millions
Speaker 3: of listens per day are getting way more eyes than
Speaker 3: the legacy media could hope to gain talking about things
Speaker 3: that they find to be true or inspiring or funny
Speaker 3: or whatever the case is.
Speaker 2: It's like, no, we have entered.
Speaker 3: An entirely new realm an entirely new generation of how
Speaker 3: information is dispersed to the masses.
Speaker 1: Dude, Oh dude, Yeah, And like even Alex Jones, he
Speaker 1: has more listens in one day than CNN does for
Speaker 1: an entire week, which is that wild.
Speaker 3: That's a true statement. Hell, I'd even say probably CNN
Speaker 3: for an entire month. But like that's the thing, And
Speaker 3: that doesn't mean that he is better or worse. It
Speaker 3: means that there are more people that give a fuck
Speaker 3: of what he has to say than Don Lemon, which
Speaker 3: I like, dude.
Speaker 1: Don Lemon. So he's not working for CNN anymore.
Speaker 2: That's right that he now is doing podcasting or something.
Speaker 1: Oh he had no he he goes live on TikTok
Speaker 1: and he has real news conversations things that need to
Speaker 1: be talked about. It's like, I know, you just got
Speaker 1: done getting hollowed out there, Donnie, Like, let's not have
Speaker 1: that conversation right now, buddy. No, no judgment by any means.
Speaker 1: I mean, you go, do you? But I like you
Speaker 1: got kicked off for a fucking reason, like if you
Speaker 1: couldn't make it on CNN. That's sad.
Speaker 3: That is saying people who don't have any business being
Speaker 3: content creators there trying their luck at it. You know,
Speaker 3: is Gavin Newsom's podcast still rolling or was that just
Speaker 3: kind of a weird, uh, you know, fart in the
Speaker 3: breeze type of situation.
Speaker 2: I don't know, as far as I know anything about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he was doing it with Marshaun Lynch all
Speaker 1: beast mode.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah. I thought that was just like a
Speaker 3: random guess that, like they teamed up.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's like their show.
Speaker 2: Oh poor Marshaw Okay sold out for a lot.
Speaker 1: He sold out to same thing as I look at
Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg the same way. But anyway, uh and also,
Speaker 1: holy shit, I want to get over to the chat
Speaker 1: here eventually, but I did want to see have you
Speaker 1: seen recent pictures of Martha Stewart lately? No, dude, she
Speaker 1: looks younger now than she did thirty years ago.
Speaker 2: Classic surgery and adrena chromes a motherfucker, ain't.
Speaker 1: It, dude. I'm talking about like she's what the late sixties, seventies?
Speaker 1: Like she's up there right, she looks like she's in
Speaker 1: her forties. Bro, Like she looks like she's in prime forties.
Speaker 3: Do I honestly don't know how old she is, but
Speaker 3: it wouldn't shock me. You know, once you get money
Speaker 3: for keeping your mouth shut, like she got caught for
Speaker 3: inside her trading, kept it ten toes down the entire
Speaker 3: time she was in jail.
Speaker 2: Did her time came out?
Speaker 3: Yo, The people that she protected are now taking care
Speaker 3: of her, Like for sure.
Speaker 1: I don't even fucking believe any of that.
Speaker 3: What did she I mean, that wasn't like a conspiracy.
Speaker 3: She absolutely was doing insider trading and got caught.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not saying that they didn't,
Speaker 1: you know, burn her and throw her in the fire
Speaker 1: to make an example out of her. But I personally
Speaker 1: believe I don't thing that she went off script by
Speaker 1: any means.
Speaker 3: Oh no, she didn't go off script. She didn't say shit.
Speaker 3: She never opened her mouth.
Speaker 2: She the hole. You have the right to remain silent.
Speaker 2: She did that.
Speaker 3: She didn't testify, She didn't say what happened. Her lawyer
Speaker 3: spoke on her behalf, which when you do that and
Speaker 3: you're guilty, you'll serve your time. She went to like
Speaker 3: a really nice prison. It wasn't like she went to
Speaker 3: San Quentin or some shit.
Speaker 2: She was chilling.
Speaker 3: She was in like the VIP style of prison, you
Speaker 3: know it was.
Speaker 2: It was like a little getaway for a while.
Speaker 3: And because she kept her mouth shut, and nobody knows
Speaker 3: who her plug was, nobody knows who gave her the
Speaker 3: information on the inside her trading, because she kept her
Speaker 3: mouth shut. Oh yeah, Now she's on the outside, she's fine.
Speaker 3: She's doing better than ever. So yeah, again, that botox
Speaker 3: and adrenochrome will have that reverse aging effect on a motherfucker.
Speaker 11: Dude.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, she's actually eighty one. I'm about to
Speaker 1: share the screen and show you a picture of her.
Speaker 2: She's eighty one.
Speaker 1: She's old as a bitch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look at this eighty one looking like that. Well,
Speaker 3: I'm telling you that's more than classic surgery, little collagen,
Speaker 3: little baby blood. Absolutely, bro.
Speaker 1: I mean, she's hotter now than when she was in
Speaker 1: her sixties. It makes no sense.
Speaker 3: Never I've never seen more at the Stewart and thought hot.
Speaker 3: But you know me, I like women with curves.
Speaker 1: For an old for literally an elderly woman who is
Speaker 1: knocking at death's door, and she's looking like fucking prime
Speaker 1: Pam Anderson right now.
Speaker 3: Bro, oh shut, I'm just saying, like, we don't know
Speaker 3: what the rest of her body.
Speaker 1: We don't know what the rest of her body looks like.
Speaker 1: But Pam Anderson hopes that she looks this good when
Speaker 1: she's in her eighties.
Speaker 3: Right, shit, Pam Anderson doesn't look that good now. I
Speaker 3: don't know if you've seen her lately. She looks road
Speaker 3: hard and put away, wet, hallhard.
Speaker 1: She's a little deflated. Yeah, I mean, hey, that's what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen to you. But I'm talking about Martha fucking
Speaker 1: Stewart here, dude, And that's why. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think that maybe reptilian. Maybe she's a shape shifter. Maybe
Speaker 1: she's chugging on adrenochrome or something. You don't look. I
Speaker 1: don't care what amount of money and surgery you go.
Speaker 1: There's nobody in their eighties that is looking like that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I have seen some people age gracefully, don't
Speaker 3: get me wrong, But to your point, no, there's a
Speaker 3: little something extra in that. I think it's probably a combination, dude,
Speaker 3: a little adrenochrome, a little plastic surgery, a little a.
Speaker 2: Little yoga, I don't know, a little pilates, a little weed.
Speaker 1: She's doing yoga in another solar system, Bro that's what's
Speaker 1: really going on.
Speaker 3: But anyway, Oh, I wonder if she got into scientology.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's it. Maybe Tom cruise here with her with
Speaker 3: this crazy magic and now all of a sudden, she's
Speaker 3: like thirty years younger.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, they do have things out there that are
Speaker 1: reversing age, for sure. That's actually this thing that I got.
Speaker 1: And it's not a sponsor by any means, but I'm
Speaker 1: always into.
Speaker 2: All that lame blue.
Speaker 1: No, well, I have the methylene blue. But this is
Speaker 1: called NAC I brought it up on the past episode.
Speaker 1: But it's said to like help with not reverse aging,
Speaker 1: but just kind of help stop the aging. So I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's like a super cheap thing you can
Speaker 1: get online. But anyway, sorry, spirit Animal, to keep you
Speaker 1: waiting so long, there, sir, we are only like almost
Speaker 1: an hour into the show. We haven't even heard your voice.
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 12: It's kind of funny.
Speaker 10: Uh, this is a two party first, you do know
Speaker 10: what a spiritual being from a different plane of existence.
Speaker 12: He's on the meta mysteries all the time. More, how
Speaker 12: do you forget it?
Speaker 1: Yes he is my tulpa. Yes he's uh, he's guiding
Speaker 1: all of us through the meta mysteries of the universe
Speaker 1: and the multiverse.
Speaker 10: Araw man, raw men, It's funny you brought up scientology.
Speaker 10: I'll have either one of you, gentleman, heard of Operation
Speaker 10: snow White.
Speaker 2: I've heard of it, but it's been a little while
Speaker 2: since I delved in refresh our memories, sir.
Speaker 10: Okay, So I'm currently doing research for it. I'm gonna
Speaker 10: do a whole big as episode of it.
Speaker 12: But alright, so.
Speaker 10: Far it, believe it or not, the biggest infiltration of
Speaker 10: the US government was actually not by a foreign national
Speaker 10: or anything like that. Is actually by a small cult
Speaker 10: quote unquote religion, more of a pymid s game called Scientology.
Speaker 12: So Ron L.
Speaker 10: Hubbard he was getting blasted and he did not like
Speaker 10: how people were criticizing his.
Speaker 12: Business, which actually have some notes.
Speaker 10: So it was a criminal conspiracy that was hatched, and
Speaker 10: it was one of the most successful infiltrations of the
Speaker 10: US government. It targeted agencies, foreign embassies, and private companies.
Speaker 10: It carried out and over thirty different countries at the
Speaker 10: same time roughly, and it had up to.
Speaker 12: Five thousand COVERD agents just in America.
Speaker 2: So what you're saying is he needed to be tried
Speaker 2: for treason?
Speaker 12: Yes. Also because of that they found out about this operation.
Speaker 10: It led to a no one called Operation freak Out, which, uh, I've.
Speaker 12: Made a joke. I vote in my comments p Diddy.
Speaker 3: In speaking of did y'all see what happened with the
Speaker 3: court today as more names are being dropped, like chaos
Speaker 3: broke out in the courtroom with the Diddy trials today.
Speaker 2: Oh, I just saw a little thing on it. I
Speaker 2: didn't watch the entire video of the tire breakdown of it,
Speaker 2: but like, yeah, Diddy is gonna start singing like a
Speaker 2: song bird. And apparently these freak Out parties were a
Speaker 2: lot worse than what people originally thought, like whatever you
Speaker 2: thought was bad with it, whatever the worst like Epstein Island. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: it's a lot worse. Oh my god.
Speaker 8: No.
Speaker 3: Some of my favorite people have been named damn it
Speaker 3: yep so a couple of the names, not to cut
Speaker 3: you off, their spirit animal because I do want to
Speaker 3: hear a little bit more about that.
Speaker 12: But it's okay. So the shit I got is gonna
Speaker 12: blow your fucking mind.
Speaker 1: That's what we like. That's that's our drug of choice,
Speaker 1: is mind being blown. But some of the some of
Speaker 1: the celebrities being mentioned in the Diddy case, uh well,
Speaker 1: in the Diddy sex trafficking trial include Michael B. Jordan Yep,
Speaker 1: I love that guy.
Speaker 12: Damn.
Speaker 2: Come on, you didn't see that one coming, dude.
Speaker 1: Dude, I mean that's a that's young Apollo right there.
Speaker 2: I'm aware, I'm aware, but let's keep going.
Speaker 3: Like I'm sure most of these names is like not
Speaker 3: going to be a shocker to most, but like I
Speaker 3: could be wrong.
Speaker 1: Kanye whoa who could have seen that coming?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Kid Cuddy, Kid Cuddy? Absolutely, And this one probably is
Speaker 1: going to break some hearts. And that's Mike Myers, Kat
Speaker 1: and the hat.
Speaker 2: Sad by it, but I'm not gonna say I'm shocked
Speaker 2: by it.
Speaker 1: Oh, Shrek is trafficking children?
Speaker 2: Bro mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Well, we don't know if he was trafficking them or
Speaker 3: if he happened to be at a freak out party
Speaker 3: one time and did. I'm not trying to belittle that,
Speaker 3: but I don't know to what context his name was
Speaker 3: being dropped.
Speaker 1: Oh, Prince Harry as well, shocker album coming. Who else
Speaker 1: are we seeing here? Cassie obviously I think she was.
Speaker 2: Dating Yeah, there's a video of him beating the shit
Speaker 2: out of her by the elevators.
Speaker 10: She's pregnant now, so that and Joey looks at pregnant
Speaker 10: women with a sympathetic so you know that bitch is
Speaker 10: about to get roasted. I can do his picture there
Speaker 10: a lot like Howcus is with the noose, just saying hey, mother.
Speaker 2: Hey, hey dude.
Speaker 3: Fiddy is clean on all of this, and he's been
Speaker 3: calling Diddy out for over a decade. So like, you know,
Speaker 3: Fiddy's going to be in that courtroom talking all kinds
Speaker 3: of shit.
Speaker 2: Hold on, Felsa.
Speaker 1: We got more names. Michelle Williams. Maybe you don't know
Speaker 1: that name, but from Destiny's Child. Yeah, interesting, right, Destney's
Speaker 1: Child Beyonce Okay. Lorne London, who is the former partner
Speaker 1: of Nipsey Hustle, said that Combs helped her get through
Speaker 1: the funeral of the rapper. Okay, Dallas Austin, what a name?
Speaker 2: Why does that name sound familiar to me?
Speaker 1: Austin is a record producer who dated uh P Diddy's
Speaker 1: ex girlfriend and mother of some of his children. Kim
Speaker 1: Porter okay, Okay. Then there's Cassie Ventura. Obviously that's the
Speaker 1: one that really brought it all to light in the
Speaker 1: first place. Aubrey O'Day, who is a former member of
Speaker 1: Danity Kane Oday, has been outspoken about Combs, calling him
Speaker 1: a soulless man and saying the working conditions for the
Speaker 1: girl group were toxic. So okay, and uh oh, Sugar Knight.
Speaker 3: Sug was calling out Diddy a while back, like even
Speaker 3: since the East West Battle had put him in jail
Speaker 3: in the first place. He was calling back when he
Speaker 3: was still being called puffy sug Knight was talking that shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh Carrie Morgan, who is this?
Speaker 2: The name's familiar.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Oh, I don't know if these are
Speaker 1: people that are actually the got caught up in the
Speaker 1: sex trafficking or some of the people who were taking
Speaker 1: advantage of So that's what it's saying right here. So
Speaker 1: as far as this Carrie Morgan, who was a friend
Speaker 1: of h Cassie that we were talking about earlier, she
Speaker 1: was it says that Diddy gave her a blue dolphin
Speaker 1: ecstasy on a bode Okay.
Speaker 3: Oh, back when jigging was a thing. Do those blue
Speaker 3: and yellow dolphins you remember.
Speaker 1: That never tried it? But yeah, I'm aware the middle
Speaker 1: school was popping with them. Dude, that's fucked up. Middle
Speaker 1: school was popping with those?
Speaker 2: Well where my middle school was, and.
Speaker 1: He went, of course in Louisiana. Yeah, uh huh. So
Speaker 1: then you have a judge a run Subrahma Subrahma nin Brahmian.
Speaker 1: I don't know who was a US district judge for
Speaker 1: the Southern District of New York who was presiding over
Speaker 1: Diddy's Federal six trafficking case. Hmm, Mark, I'm not even
Speaker 1: gonna say the names that I don't know, so Exavier Donaldson,
Speaker 1: Maureene Comy.
Speaker 2: So I didn't look at a name list.
Speaker 3: All I know is that today, when the trial is happening,
Speaker 3: they were revealing more information about what all took place
Speaker 3: at these freak GoF parties, and it was a lot
Speaker 3: worse than what people were expecting. Like from what I
Speaker 3: was given to believe, it makes Epstein Island look g rated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it seems like. It's interesting, though, that
Speaker 1: we're getting these names from the Ditty case and we
Speaker 1: haven't heard shit from the Epstein case. Oh, we're not
Speaker 1: gonna but why would we hear anything about Diddy? Especially
Speaker 1: if there's like politicians involved.
Speaker 2: Possibly, but see that's the thing the judge was that
Speaker 2: just his name being that he's the one presiding, or
Speaker 2: is that he's involved.
Speaker 1: That could have been it. Yeah, that could have been
Speaker 1: in it too. And also I see, I'm I actually
Speaker 1: take up with with ice Cube what he says about
Speaker 1: the whole situation. He says that, like he admits, because
Speaker 1: you know he's from NWA. He goes, he admits that
Speaker 1: the government had a hand to play in pushing that
Speaker 1: kind of music for you know, Divide and sex and
Speaker 1: drugs and alcohol. He goes, absolutely like we were being
Speaker 1: paid from the government. We were being told what what
Speaker 1: was gonna sell and what they were going to push,
Speaker 1: and that's how they made their money. Like it was
Speaker 1: like a full on government thing, which is interesting because
Speaker 1: you know, if you remember the story, allegedly they were
Speaker 1: going against the grain by singing about those things, remember, right,
Speaker 1: and now Ice Cubes coming out and saying that, yeah,
Speaker 1: we were absolutely being told what to do by the government.
Speaker 1: It's like fucking Tupac and everything, like Tupac being a
Speaker 1: faery and nothing wrong with that, but it's just all
Speaker 1: it's all a fucking illusion. Everything is an illusion.
Speaker 2: It's all part of the plan, dude. But that's the thing.
Speaker 3: So, and we've heard many, many reports of in the
Speaker 3: early nineties, government agencies name your group, FBI, CIA, that
Speaker 3: fucking matter, Okay, government agencies came to these music executives
Speaker 3: and told them straight up, Hey, you're singing gangbanger shit.
Speaker 3: We really want you to lean more heavily into that.
Speaker 3: And you could see the hardship that happened. You look
Speaker 3: at rap from the eighties and even into the early
Speaker 3: nine ninety one, it was Yeah, there was some of it.
Speaker 3: There was some like gangbanging style, but mostly it was
Speaker 3: like R and B with a more heavy drum beat,
Speaker 3: and it was more singing about partying, not like fuck
Speaker 3: the police. You see what I'm saying. Then round from
Speaker 3: ninety four on up, this shit got more and more
Speaker 3: and more and more heavy into that style of rap.
Speaker 3: And you look at what was going on with the
Speaker 3: war on drugs at that time, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's why they were trying to keep prison cells full,
Speaker 3: and this is what happens, is what you do.
Speaker 2: And I love glorified the gangster lifestyle.
Speaker 1: I love the fact that, like a lot of the
Speaker 1: lyrics were just looked over, you know, like cause we uh,
Speaker 1: what was it, like a month ago we were reading
Speaker 1: some of the Biggie Small's lyrics. Whenever he was like,
Speaker 1: I love you so much, I'll suck your daddy dick.
Speaker 1: It's like, what the fuck are you talking about, Biggie.
Speaker 3: Like you sucking girls dad's dix. Now, Like that's that's
Speaker 3: a strange flex. A lot of it, a lot of
Speaker 3: it was just kind of glazed over, right because it
Speaker 3: was just kind of a part of the song and
Speaker 3: it was a super catchy beat.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing.
Speaker 3: They know what beats will get the people's attention. They
Speaker 3: know what lyric not lyrics, but they know what kind
Speaker 3: of melodies to have in the background, what kind of
Speaker 3: basslines to have to where this will keep someone bobbing
Speaker 3: their head to it for the next five years.
Speaker 2: Ten years, twenty years.
Speaker 3: It's hypnotic, exactly exactly that like secret knowledge if you
Speaker 3: want to call it, that has been long understood like
Speaker 3: four I would say centuries. Even there's a reason why
Speaker 3: we still, like I know, if somebody's not into classical music,
Speaker 3: this won't matter to them. But there's a reason why
Speaker 3: Beethoven is still seen in the way that it is,
Speaker 3: or Bach or Mozart or any of these things. The
Speaker 3: secrets of what to do to make a successful song
Speaker 3: is not like it's secret to us because we're not
Speaker 3: in the music industry, but the executives know exactly what
Speaker 3: to do with it. How many songs have you heard,
Speaker 3: perfect example, how many songs have you heard on the
Speaker 3: radio or whatever the case is, and then you hear
Speaker 3: years later the band themselves sing at a cappella in
Speaker 3: the way that it was intended to be sung. It
Speaker 3: is completely different and a million times better and deeper
Speaker 3: than what you heard on the radio.
Speaker 2: But the executive said, now we're gonna up the tempo,
Speaker 2: We're gonna do this with it.
Speaker 3: You're gonna sing this, We're gonna change this word to
Speaker 3: this word, and then we're gonna sell it and it
Speaker 3: becomes a hit.
Speaker 2: That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: Britney Spears is a prime example of that. Actually, sure,
Speaker 1: because she couldn't hang a note to save her life.
Speaker 1: But you know, you get a little editing on in there,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden she's a global star. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, like a great performer. I'm not saying anything
Speaker 1: against that great performer. Nothing wrong with that, but as
Speaker 1: far as her voice went, no, no, no. But anyway,
Speaker 1: all right, sorry about that spirit animal. Let's get back
Speaker 1: on track. This Operation snow White, let's hear about it.
Speaker 10: So not only did they target phone embassy as well
Speaker 10: as our own government. Some of the notable agencies that
Speaker 10: they targeted was the ATF and the I r S.
Speaker 10: They were looking for records on people who had who
Speaker 10: were criticizing the scientology. But uh so when it was discovered,
Speaker 10: uh the people that got went went away. For this
Speaker 10: was Herbert's thud wife. I have her written down here.
Speaker 10: It was his third wife, the Mary Sue Herbert, his
Speaker 10: third wife of Van and eleven other church executives, all
Speaker 10: of them except v pleaded guilty to obstruction, burglary of
Speaker 10: government built and stiffed of documents and government property. And
Speaker 10: they also that's all that I got with now. But
Speaker 10: they also are gonna go Operation freak Out. They're gonna
Speaker 10: try to go after a I can't remember what the
Speaker 10: the journalist is name, but they wanted to imprison you
Speaker 10: in a psychedelic world. So ye, yeah, so the scientologists,
Speaker 10: not only is it a Ponzi scheme and in of
Speaker 10: itself is a cult. And when I say cold, I
Speaker 10: don't mean like this beloved family. I'm talking about like
Speaker 10: fucking evil sons of bitches. Not only will they they
Speaker 10: also make it where that they're members. If somebody tries
Speaker 10: to leave it, and if they have FAMI in it,
Speaker 10: their family will cut you off. And there's been I've
Speaker 10: watched a lot of videos of people's person testimony and everything.
Speaker 10: Not only is there do they do they have strong
Speaker 10: ties to the colonal. There have been cases of incest too.
Speaker 10: So it is a fucked up cult. And I actually
Speaker 10: the Nixium that y'all talked about a couple of shows ago,
Speaker 10: the two actresses uh, Alison Mack and Cuss and Krook Uh,
Speaker 10: they were.
Speaker 12: Both a part of it.
Speaker 10: And Alison Mack I believe she just got out of prison,
Speaker 10: did yeah, which is sucked up because Smallville is like
Speaker 10: my favorite show, but I.
Speaker 2: Couldn't watch it.
Speaker 3: Dude, we had to wait all those seasons for the
Speaker 3: final episode to watch a dude who we all knew
Speaker 3: could fly fucking fly And.
Speaker 12: It's like, but flying is even in the comments he
Speaker 12: didn't fly yet.
Speaker 10: The ability to fly too much, Lady Go and jumped
Speaker 10: a tall You can only jump as tall as the
Speaker 10: tallest building.
Speaker 2: I know, It's just it just pained me.
Speaker 12: Also, y'all talked about frequencies a while ago. I shoult
Speaker 12: you know. I was driving.
Speaker 10: I was already I was going through traffic. I was
Speaker 10: going to my buddy's house. I had a YouTube applaying.
Speaker 10: I was listening to CCR, and then i AD came on.
Speaker 12: I'm just driving.
Speaker 10: The screen was blue. It started playing like whisperers and
Speaker 10: a weird frequency cat. I can't do the thing, but
Speaker 10: it's like I I eventually changed it. I thought it
Speaker 10: was only give me a thirty second thing. I was driving,
Speaker 10: but I changed it. But it got me like really
Speaker 10: fucking angry. It that it they tried in say a
Speaker 10: road rage or some shit. Yeah, it felt completely off.
Speaker 10: I was having a good time till that came on.
Speaker 10: It just pissed me off.
Speaker 1: Is it that one where it's like, ah, like an
Speaker 1: emergencies test alert.
Speaker 12: No, it didn't sound like that. Those don't really bother me.
Speaker 12: I can to that, no problem. But it was like
Speaker 12: it was doing like a shrill, but what in a shrill?
Speaker 10: It was like it had like people's voices you know,
Speaker 10: like how people are talking like a court house, but
Speaker 10: it not the judge, but it's like the people in
Speaker 10: the audience, and all overlay that on like somebody's nails
Speaker 10: going on on chalkboard.
Speaker 12: What are you doing?
Speaker 2: Even?
Speaker 1: What are you doing listening to a radio? You old geezer?
Speaker 1: Who the fuck listens to radio anymore?
Speaker 12: It was YouTube?
Speaker 1: You got Spotify, you got you know, uh.
Speaker 2: You know, stay doing music on YouTube, Pandora at it.
Speaker 12: I'll listen to CCR A a.
Speaker 2: Little bit of credence, I feel.
Speaker 12: That, And it was easy, like Sunday morning, my guys.
Speaker 2: That's a good one with that.
Speaker 1: Anyway. All right, well look, let's get over to the
Speaker 1: chat for the first time in an hour.
Speaker 3: I'm looking I scrolled down. Everybody's saying, what's up, what's
Speaker 3: happening with it? Uh so, Raven asked the crew. Everybody
Speaker 3: here tonight, the whole cult. So all right, and to
Speaker 3: follow off of this, we are soon going to be
Speaker 3: launching an online merch store. Okay, we have been kind
Speaker 3: of dragging our feet on this for a while. It
Speaker 3: will be going down very very soon. So everybody's sending
Speaker 3: the chat what y'all would like as far as merch goes. Okay,
Speaker 3: for sure, t shirts, for sure, hats. But if there's
Speaker 3: anything in particular that y'all definitely want, let us know.
Speaker 3: We're gonna try our best to make these things happen
Speaker 3: to Coming soon, coming soon.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying this week. I'm saying probably by the
Speaker 2: end of this month.
Speaker 1: I want some cold socks. I think that'd be sweet.
Speaker 3: Yo, I've been seeing some socks that are pimp as fuck,
Speaker 3: Like we could absolutely make some third eye all the
Speaker 3: way open socks.
Speaker 2: I don't see why not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway, Yeah, there's a bunch of different things,
Speaker 1: like people are doing like double bags and backpacks and
Speaker 1: koozies and they're getting weird with it in cups and
Speaker 1: shit like that. So yeah, it'd be interesting to see
Speaker 1: what y'all would be interested in that way, you know,
Speaker 1: because we're not going to be going through like Tea
Speaker 1: Spring or Tea Public as we have in the past.
Speaker 1: We're actually gonna be working with a company, and so
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to order it rather than Tea Spring.
Speaker 1: It's like we don't have to do anything about it.
Speaker 1: We send up the logo, they put it on some
Speaker 1: shirts and we get the tiniest stuff commissions from that.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about like fifty cents a shirt, It's like
Speaker 1: really not anything. And that's why, and that's why we
Speaker 1: haven't even tried to promote it, because it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, we we got a couple of like a
Speaker 1: couple of shirts and stuff like that, and the print
Speaker 1: was not really lasting or anything like that. So we're like,
Speaker 1: all right, well, eventually we're gonna work with a company
Speaker 1: that's gonna give better products, so that time is now.
Speaker 2: Baboo.
Speaker 3: The Big grim Bowski was in the chat for a
Speaker 3: minute there. Holy shit, hadn't me if he was in here?
Speaker 12: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I invited him. I invited Oh yeah. But anyway,
Speaker 1: let's get over the chat. At the very first message,
Speaker 1: Alexandra said, damn, did I just step foot into a
Speaker 1: Pride parade? So many fucking faggots here. I don't see
Speaker 1: any dildos though, just fucking around. What's up, y'all, fags?
Speaker 2: You know, one day we're gonna get canceled because we
Speaker 2: read the chat verbatim.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, that's why we're not on YouTube. Podcasts
Speaker 1: are still you can say whatever you want, you know.
Speaker 1: That's the beauty around it. I don't know how long
Speaker 1: that's going to last.
Speaker 3: Candice Candy Cake says, shirts and water bottles got you
Speaker 3: all right?
Speaker 2: Moving on?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 1: Hard g said uh and shalom to everyone. Raven siloam shalom. Royce,
Speaker 1: Hey Coltis, Alexandra said, alo or also to everyone, check
Speaker 1: out never Avenged on SoundCloud. I want people to hear
Speaker 1: my music never Avenged.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, alex is the screamer in a metal band.
Speaker 3: It's pretty fucking hardcore.
Speaker 1: Let's go, dude. Renee said, it's crazy out there. I'm
Speaker 1: here for it. I'm cautiously excited. I think that's in
Speaker 1: that might be talking about that ORB thing.
Speaker 2: Uh so.
Speaker 1: Did you you, Jamie said, bro anyone before Google lied?
Speaker 2: I mean clearly clearly.
Speaker 1: Spirit animals said the gorilla bumping many men before the fight.
Speaker 2: Yo, okay.
Speaker 3: And this has gone even further into the to the
Speaker 3: internet spaces. So there's quote unquote experts that have come
Speaker 3: for and said the men would win, and then every
Speaker 3: single every single simulation that has ever been ran to
Speaker 3: prove this shows the gorilla like dominating the people like
Speaker 3: hardcore because the other thing is you gotta make it
Speaker 3: to where ten to twenty of these guys agree to
Speaker 3: take the fall.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't put in a simulation. You can't
Speaker 1: put heart. You can't put heart in a simulation. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about when you're knocking at death's door and you
Speaker 1: know that this is do or die. Literally, that brings
Speaker 1: out a little something extra in a man. The gorilla's
Speaker 1: not thinking that it's gonna be do or die. It's
Speaker 1: just thinking, well, maybe it is, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think that it's our strategy goes men easily win that.
Speaker 1: And also I do love about how did you see
Speaker 1: Steve Irwin Son weighed in on it?
Speaker 6: No, I have not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he didn't say who he thought was going
Speaker 1: to win or anything like that. But he goes, why
Speaker 1: are we talking about this? The Silverback guerrilla is about
Speaker 1: to you know, it's on edge of like going extinct,
Speaker 1: like if anything, we need to be doing like talking
Speaker 1: about these things to try and promote the well being
Speaker 1: in the health of the gorillas. I'm like, such a
Speaker 1: Steve Irwin kind of comment there.
Speaker 2: I agree, And you know what, good for him for
Speaker 2: taking that stance.
Speaker 3: Most of the empire that Steve built for him and
Speaker 3: his family and for the animals is being ripped away
Speaker 3: from them, and so that family is like suffering greatly
Speaker 3: at this time.
Speaker 2: And you know, we do need to do an.
Speaker 3: Episode on the suspicious situation surrounding Steve Irwin's death one
Speaker 3: of these days. A lot of fallacies of information have
Speaker 3: come forward since then, the sting ray stabbing him in
Speaker 3: the chest like fifty three times or some shit.
Speaker 2: Uh, there's there's a lot of there's a lot of
Speaker 2: m I mean controversy around it.
Speaker 3: And when you see that it's the Australian government that's
Speaker 3: taken back all of that land to build on and
Speaker 3: all this shit, it's.
Speaker 2: Like, ooh, it's looking more conspiratorial by the day.
Speaker 1: M Yeah, we can't be having that. They're so worried
Speaker 1: about global warming and conserving you know, uh nature and whatnot.
Speaker 1: But let's kill off the guy everybody's favorite nature guy
Speaker 1: and just stop promoting you know, every all the animals
Speaker 1: and insects and nature in general of.
Speaker 2: Course, speaking of speaking of like the global warming and shit.
Speaker 3: So they were recently drilling the ice out of Antarctica, right,
Speaker 3: and they've been doing this for years and years and years,
Speaker 3: but they finally got to the bedrock. Allegedly they got
Speaker 3: to the very bottom of the ice and Antarctica it's
Speaker 3: like basically eight empire state buildings down and through that
Speaker 3: you're able to like pull out the core and see
Speaker 3: like a volcanic activity, Like when the Earth gets covered
Speaker 3: in ash, including Antarctica, there's like a layer right there.
Speaker 3: So they're able to pull data from it to show
Speaker 3: what the carbon amount in the air was throughout the
Speaker 3: majority of human history, and it's always floated somewhere around
Speaker 3: somewhere between one hundred and three hundred.
Speaker 2: Parts per million of carbon in the air. Currently we're
Speaker 2: like at four twenty five. But this data goes back
Speaker 2: allegedly like eight hundred thousand years. So interesting things.
Speaker 3: And of course the global warming people are going to
Speaker 3: say that that's because of human beings. I still respectfully disagree,
Speaker 3: but yeah, they're saying that we have more carbon now
Speaker 3: than arguably ever before.
Speaker 1: Would you see that like the ice shelves and the
Speaker 1: iceberg seem to be rebuilding, like they seem to be
Speaker 1: gaining like and so if though the world is melting,
Speaker 1: then how is it possible that a lot of these
Speaker 1: icebergs seem to be growing in size? Rather than shrinking.
Speaker 3: Ah, you know, I'm not an expert of the weather
Speaker 3: in things, but everything happens in a cycle, and I
Speaker 3: can at least acknowledge that it do it.
Speaker 1: Do el Hefe said. Yeah, but Chupacabra is real. I
Speaker 1: believe that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: I'm a full on fan.
Speaker 13: Hmm.
Speaker 1: Spirit Animal said, how is my family tonight, My fellow
Speaker 1: basket cases, we're all here.
Speaker 2: We're all here.
Speaker 14: Um.
Speaker 1: So then you got into the merge Big Grimbowski. Damn,
Speaker 1: that's a shame that he's not here anymore. Mm hmm uh,
Speaker 1: he said, I may or may not be in the
Speaker 1: progress of transporting illegal sacred herb across state lines.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with it. Grimbowski's doing Grimbowski things.
Speaker 1: Then there's a couple of memes. We're not going to
Speaker 1: read a lot of the memes tonight. You feel free
Speaker 1: to send them and stuff like that. I just want
Speaker 1: to get to, you know, some of the questions and
Speaker 1: statements here. Spirit Animal said, anybody anyone down for a
Speaker 1: D and D campaign?
Speaker 2: Dude?
Speaker 1: I tried D and D. I did D and D
Speaker 1: h a D and D campaign twice, and for the
Speaker 1: longest time I thought it was just gonna be so
Speaker 1: dorky and okay, and then you play it and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, what have I been missing out on?
Speaker 1: It's so much fun if you get into it's fun
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, especially if like there's a good story,
Speaker 1: because what is it, Like the master or whatever has
Speaker 1: to write the story and the script.
Speaker 12: You have already have the entire island mapped out.
Speaker 15: I was gonna do like over all like a quest,
Speaker 15: but I was gonna let y'all pretty much build y'all's
Speaker 15: own adventure and everything just outline y'all's own quest. I
Speaker 15: was gonna do everything pretty much impov but I was
Speaker 15: gonna use cat like plot lines from Balter's Gate.
Speaker 12: I was gonna use plot lines.
Speaker 4: From like Red Dead and Ship that I find that
Speaker 4: I think y'all would all be interested in, and I
Speaker 4: even have it in one campaign.
Speaker 10: I was gonna have you and Jacob as essentially in PCs,
Speaker 10: but y'all gonna be at least spinny.
Speaker 1: Godbe hey, we'll take DENI god little Miui action up
Speaker 1: in here.
Speaker 2: That's fucking gope, you know what.
Speaker 1: Speaking of D and D too, one of my favorite
Speaker 1: shows is coming back here in like a month and
Speaker 1: that's Stranger Things. I'm so excited finally the last season
Speaker 1: is coming. They said every single episode is going to
Speaker 1: be like movie length long. That's that's like my daughter's
Speaker 1: favorite shit. And we geek out, geek out hard over
Speaker 1: Stranger Things.
Speaker 2: We'll see if they don't ruin it. Dude.
Speaker 3: It seems like every single show that they come out
Speaker 3: with these days will like start strong, the first seasons
Speaker 3: will be amazing, and then they keep ending it on
Speaker 3: the worst notes possible. And it's just like, bro, and
Speaker 3: it's not like one show. It is every fucking show
Speaker 3: that I even think I want to start watching. The
Speaker 3: season finale comes out and everybody is fucking hissed, and
Speaker 3: it's a you know, more so than like Game of
Speaker 3: Throne shit.
Speaker 1: And and a lot of people were like really upset
Speaker 1: about that Game of Thrones ending. I thought it was great. Actually,
Speaker 1: that's just I mean, I've watched it several times over
Speaker 1: and I'm like, why are people so pissed about this?
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, no, he wants to see the cripple
Speaker 1: as a king or whatever. But I thought like it
Speaker 1: was it was a good story.
Speaker 2: Brand being the king. I have no problem with. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's not the issue.
Speaker 3: John Snow returning to the North, Okay, fine, I think
Speaker 3: he should have been king. But whatever, it's not that, dude,
Speaker 3: It's that the entire thing was a giant thrown together
Speaker 3: cop out of an.
Speaker 2: Excuse, Like they realistically, real shit, what the fuck's just happened?
Speaker 2: Real shit?
Speaker 3: They could have alien for you, Jacob, it's gotta be
Speaker 3: it now my foot hits something and like the lights
Speaker 3: flickered for a second. But anyway, the battle where they
Speaker 3: were fighting the White Walkers up north, that whole battle
Speaker 3: could have been wrapped up in one season. The journey
Speaker 3: to get from there to kings Landing could have been
Speaker 3: a whole other season. The battle for kings Landing could
Speaker 3: have been a season. No, no, no, Denariar's just kind
Speaker 3: of lose their mind, torches a million people, and then like,
Speaker 3: you know, it's just whatever. It's like, so y'all are
Speaker 3: just throwing this shit together at the last minute just
Speaker 3: to call it done because Homeboy didn't write the last book,
Speaker 3: and that was my thing. I wasn't mad at the directors.
Speaker 3: I think they did an okay job with what they
Speaker 3: were given, but it's like, you know, it kind of
Speaker 3: done better.
Speaker 1: She was the daughter of the mad king. It was
Speaker 1: bound to happen.
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't bound too. Just because your dad's a
Speaker 2: dick doesn't mean you have to be one.
Speaker 3: And that whole time, she's the breaker of chains, the
Speaker 3: freer of slaves, the mother of dragons. People love her,
Speaker 3: and then at the very end she decides to say
Speaker 3: fuck the world. And then John Snow had to kill her,
Speaker 3: and it's like, power, hurry her cousin that she was
Speaker 3: fucking who is the correct king because of his lineage
Speaker 3: and all that, and it's like, okay, you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean.
Speaker 1: It's I don't know. I thought it was pretty good and.
Speaker 16: Not just that.
Speaker 2: Look at the Last of Us, Look at Handmaid's Tail.
Speaker 3: Look at all these other big, big shows, big budget
Speaker 3: items that are going out right now. As they're wrapping
Speaker 3: up and as shit's happening with them, the public is
Speaker 3: speaking and they are not happy with pretty much any
Speaker 3: writer of any show currently going So to your point,
Speaker 3: I hope that Stranger Things does a good job with
Speaker 3: this final season and it doesn't piss the world off.
Speaker 3: I have a feeling it will, though, because it's obviously
Speaker 3: the writers in Hollywood are not listening to their customer base.
Speaker 1: I could have gone without what's the little kid that
Speaker 1: was abducted? I could have gone without the whole gay
Speaker 1: spin to it. But yeah, anyway, but yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you got a blue pill from time to time. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: You know, we're not always red pilled over here. You
Speaker 1: gotta take a little chill pill, as they say. Spirit
Speaker 1: animals said, I got my spirit animal tattooed by my
Speaker 1: ex last week. Let's see it. Where's it at? Oh
Speaker 1: my god? Is that alf? Why is animals?
Speaker 2: Oh my god?
Speaker 10: He does?
Speaker 2: He does. He loved eating cats.
Speaker 3: That was his whole thing. See, I'm in at it.
Speaker 3: And the line work doesn't look bad on it either,
Speaker 3: so he looks.
Speaker 17: And to be fair, she had to we stins it
Speaker 17: and there is double lives because my skin is tough.
Speaker 17: Like she she's a professional tattoours. She couldn't get a stick.
Speaker 17: I said, didn't have to go deepest? She said, how
Speaker 17: war's deeper?
Speaker 18: Do you think I have to go? Said?
Speaker 12: Okay, So I took it in.
Speaker 13: She only had like maybe barely even out of the thing,
Speaker 13: like how she catches.
Speaker 10: I put that bit that needle out, but like that
Speaker 10: fall out the damn gun itself.
Speaker 1: Not a surprise, and he asked her to go deeper.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 12: The navy, fat big facts. I was in the men's department.
Speaker 18: Okay, fair, very fair.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just fucking with you, Sam, You're like a
Speaker 1: little brother to us. Dude, love y'all, love you too.
Speaker 1: Leg Yeah, it is nice. I've been having the itch.
Speaker 1: I I'm actually thinking about playing another chrip out to
Speaker 1: Arizona here in the summer so that Sean can give
Speaker 1: me some what he needs to finish my my half
Speaker 1: sleeve up here and filling the matrix and all that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff.
Speaker 19: But I'm I'm trying to go back. I'm gonna go
Speaker 19: back to call it this week or next week. She's
Speaker 19: gonna go over this one and she's gonna put my
Speaker 19: moth Man. Boy, he's gonna be in cover. He's gonna
Speaker 19: have a fake did with his screen.
Speaker 4: Wrapped down, and he's gonna have a banner over it
Speaker 4: with the microphone and music coming out and in the banner.
Speaker 18: Where he lives.
Speaker 12: I'm a Mothman of constant talk.
Speaker 2: I like it. I like it, oh, brother moth manh Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very well. Alexander said, Damn, my comment got deleted.
Speaker 1: Guess I'll send it again. It's oh no, it didn't
Speaker 1: get deleted. I just earlier anyway. Spirit Animal said, didn't
Speaker 1: get any flour this week, but I did get a
Speaker 1: pen that taste like peach cobbler. I actually just got
Speaker 1: a new one too, dude. And I usually, like I
Speaker 1: prefer the weed vapes now more than the the actual
Speaker 1: herb itself.
Speaker 3: I've switched strong against the vapes for a while because
Speaker 3: they were like too strong.
Speaker 1: Well, I found and I've switched to the dark side.
Speaker 1: I admit that. But I found that there's this one
Speaker 1: specific company out there that it's the perfect high.
Speaker 10: Like I'm not.
Speaker 1: I hate getting so high that I'm tripping like that
Speaker 1: is that's hell to me. I don't like that, you know,
Speaker 1: because your mind starts running a thousand miles an hour
Speaker 1: and you can't decipher it and it's starting to stress
Speaker 1: you out. It gives me anxiety. I don't want that.
Speaker 1: I just want something that is, you know, chill, calm,
Speaker 1: have a nice little, you know, tip off in the evening.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I actually just got one. It's a It's
Speaker 1: banana flavored and taste delicious.
Speaker 2: I hate fake bad.
Speaker 12: Why do I'll blind this from another's it's Jeter.
Speaker 18: I got fine horse and it's peach collar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not too well versed in all the name
Speaker 1: brands and shit like that. I just know this one's
Speaker 1: Jeter because it's my second one that I got. The
Speaker 1: first one lasts at me, like dude. The first one
Speaker 1: lasts me like seven months because I only hit it
Speaker 1: like two or three times a night, and so it
Speaker 1: last me forever. And so I'm hoping this one will
Speaker 1: get me through the rest of the year too.
Speaker 20: The last wave was I normally would ye hearts. I
Speaker 20: didn't really care for the sposals like art. But when
Speaker 20: I was spoken with hearts, when I had the battery, uh,
Speaker 20: a four gram apart would last me about three days.
Speaker 1: You're a savage. That's too much.
Speaker 18: I'm at that point. I was just a fuck. I
Speaker 18: was looking that thing all day, every day.
Speaker 1: So how about enjoy life as it is naturally, Samuel,
Speaker 1: And you know, there's nothing wrong with having a little
Speaker 1: glass of wine at the end of the day, a
Speaker 1: couple of tokees of the old magic dragon from time
Speaker 1: to time. But you know, look at the sky, Look
Speaker 1: how beautiful it is you know, look at look at
Speaker 1: you know, everything around you, just enjoy it. If you're
Speaker 1: high all the time, you're getting a skewed version of reality.
Speaker 1: I think that's my mind boring, to.
Speaker 21: Be honest, I think i'm tone of manly altered. Uh,
Speaker 21: but at this point I'd rather be bored and high
Speaker 21: and bored and syby.
Speaker 1: Well, if you really think about it, like if your reality,
Speaker 1: and this is going to get a little esoteric, but
Speaker 1: if your reality is boring without that, then doesn't that
Speaker 1: kind of point to your perspective and you're actually making
Speaker 1: your own life boring in a sense, like if you know,
Speaker 1: if if you are listening to music or watching your
Speaker 1: favorite TV show, or you're going outside and you're doing whatever,
Speaker 1: maybe you go fishing or whatever, and you can't enjoy
Speaker 1: that without being you know, intoxicated. I just feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, like you're the boring one at the party then,
Speaker 1: like it's supposed to be, you were your perspective of
Speaker 1: being able to look at I'm not trying to get
Speaker 1: too hippi, but I mean I'm a smoker for sure.
Speaker 18: But no, I like going fishing. I don't have to
Speaker 18: have this. I go fishing. Hey, I just caught my
Speaker 18: personal best. It was a ten pound back the other day.
Speaker 18: Oh yeah, I enjoy it.
Speaker 21: I throw it back just because I want pawn and
Speaker 21: I was trying to get that bitch full.
Speaker 18: Oh but no, like I enjoy it. I'll go through
Speaker 18: a couple of weeks. That's all I do. Then there
Speaker 18: would be a couple of weeks for I don't care
Speaker 18: to it. I'll put it down for about a day
Speaker 18: or two. It's just something to do. I mean, I
Speaker 18: just busted my TVs.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, you need a little, a little breather from
Speaker 1: time to time. With that, Alexandra said, if I saw
Speaker 1: an alien in real life, I would pull out my
Speaker 1: thirty eight and show it who uh, show it who
Speaker 1: was really made in God's image?
Speaker 2: I feel that. I felt that.
Speaker 16: You know.
Speaker 2: I just got a new holster from a forty five,
Speaker 2: so I've been carrying that more recently.
Speaker 3: It's it's from we the people. They're not a sponsor
Speaker 3: the show, but I this holster, it's it's the best.
Speaker 3: So I do carry my thirty eight on occasion if
Speaker 3: I'm wearing something to where I can't hide this as
Speaker 3: well on the waistline.
Speaker 2: But yeah, this is my new my regular every day carry.
Speaker 1: Now do you have two zigzags with that?
Speaker 2: Well, it's not a cult, it's not a Colt forty five. Actually,
Speaker 2: it's a Springfield forty five.
Speaker 3: And I used to have zigzags when I was when
Speaker 3: I was broken, I was still smoking cigarettes, dude, and
Speaker 3: I like lost my job.
Speaker 2: Look at my boy white boy wizard with them zigzags
Speaker 2: ready to go. Yo.
Speaker 3: I got really good at rolling my own cigarettes, and
Speaker 3: I do mean tobacco cigarettes at that time. Yo, A
Speaker 3: bag of bugle Boy or Bugler or whatever it is
Speaker 3: you gets you some zigzags. That's how the pole man
Speaker 3: be smoking. But then because I had like a bunch
Speaker 3: of pipe tobacco too, because I miss smoking my pipe
Speaker 3: like that. It just tastes so much better and smells
Speaker 3: so much better. So there I was just rolling myself
Speaker 3: some black cherry vanilla whiskey cigarettes, my hand rolling them,
Speaker 3: and bro, that's just good living.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean is good living. The hits
Speaker 1: the back of the throat a little differently with the hitch.
Speaker 2: You in your chest. But I'm like a real nicotine addict.
Speaker 2: If I'm not feeling it my chest, then why am
Speaker 2: I lighting up?
Speaker 3: You know, although I am planning on quitting my nicotine
Speaker 3: addiction this year, how are you so?
Speaker 2: I am, I'm, I'm. My goal is by Christmas to
Speaker 2: be like done.
Speaker 1: I quit for forty one or forty two days and
Speaker 1: I caved in.
Speaker 3: I got things in my life currently right now that
Speaker 3: are stressing me the absolute fuck out. Okay, but like once,
Speaker 3: once those things are in the rear view mirror. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I plan on a plan on kicking this habit and
Speaker 3: moving on to more healthier options.
Speaker 1: Good on you. I plan on doing and eventually, but
Speaker 1: I don't see that in my near future.
Speaker 2: I feel you.
Speaker 1: Um spirit animal said, if an alien comes in my house,
Speaker 1: he gonna see me naked with a hatchet in one
Speaker 1: hand and a bottle of lube in the other, wearing
Speaker 1: the marine flag as a cape with rooster by Alison
Speaker 1: Chains blaring.
Speaker 2: I like your energy. I just I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean again, we don't even know if aliens have
Speaker 3: cheeks to be clapped right like we think they may,
Speaker 3: And we don't even know how many sets of cheeks
Speaker 3: that can be clapped, or if them cheeks even be clapping.
Speaker 2: We don't know, But like you know, science is out there. Gents.
Speaker 1: I mean, they could have the tr tit situation going on.
Speaker 2: They can have what's that that one goddess, the Greek
Speaker 2: goddess had like eighty seven titties?
Speaker 10: Was it?
Speaker 2: It wasn't Aphrodity, was it Artemis?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 12: Was the moon goddess? God was a maiden.
Speaker 2: It started with a hold on goddess with a bunch
Speaker 2: of boobs.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna look this up and I'm gonna kick myself
Speaker 3: in the ass for not knowing this off top there
Speaker 3: it is, yeah, Artemis or Diana of Ephesus, but Artemis.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, so like it might be an Artemis situation
Speaker 3: where like there's like eighty sets of titties and like
Speaker 3: that's just what it be like.
Speaker 2: We don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, En, of course, Alexandra would chime in and say,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind my ass being probed. We know, alex
Speaker 1: we know, alex I think that you deserve a title
Speaker 1: like the spirit animal at this point.
Speaker 2: The resident training correspondent.
Speaker 1: What do you mean if that works, then that works?
Speaker 2: But oh, you know, I think that correspondent.
Speaker 3: We got our spirit animal, we got our resident training correspondent.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have like resident correspondents of all of the
Speaker 3: marginalized groups of for it's all said and done.
Speaker 1: What did you say there, White Boy Wizard.
Speaker 14: Local correspondents for Ppe kissing. I called him a pep
Speaker 14: kisser earlier and he laughed. So I was like, wait
Speaker 14: a second, I don't know him that well, maybe I
Speaker 14: shouldn't call him a pepe kisser yet.
Speaker 2: But he put no, no, no, like Alex will tell
Speaker 2: you straight up, like he's trans but not retarded. He's
Speaker 2: here for all the smoke and all the laughs.
Speaker 1: Jesus. White Boy Wizard said, if alien comes in my house,
Speaker 1: I'm uh grapping, oh, grabbing him and graping. Oh, raping.
Speaker 1: I thought I was reading that wrong.
Speaker 3: Was an extra letter just because oh well, I mean
Speaker 3: earlier we're using the the cancelable word for homosexuality, but
Speaker 3: now we're too afraid to say rape.
Speaker 2: Look, I don't even know what's happening anymore.
Speaker 6: Here.
Speaker 2: We're not on YouTube. There's goddamn reasons why we're not
Speaker 2: on YouTube.
Speaker 16: You know.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's just take it all the way and
Speaker 1: say the Nazis were the good guys. I'm just really
Speaker 1: try and get fucking canceled up in here.
Speaker 3: There are so many conspiracy people saying that these days
Speaker 3: it's it is upsetting and like bewildering.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's wild to go to that extreme, but he said,
Speaker 1: I'm graping him and taking his drugs and his whip
Speaker 1: fuck around and find out alien nerd.
Speaker 3: I mean again, if there are cheeks to be clapped,
Speaker 3: I wish you the best of luck.
Speaker 2: If not, I you know that very well. You see
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: This could be such a quick uno reverso car where
Speaker 3: you are now the object of some hinti tentacle porn
Speaker 3: because of this alien that just happened to walk up
Speaker 3: in your house. Like I'm not saying that's gonna happen,
Speaker 3: but I'm just saying it's a slippery slope.
Speaker 2: You want to like get after it.
Speaker 3: What happens if that alien flips you over and ultra
Speaker 3: boys you with their weird newtly appendages like we don't
Speaker 3: be knowing dude, dude.
Speaker 2: It's funny thing once I always say this guy, it's.
Speaker 1: Funny you bring up the tentacle porn and shit like that,
Speaker 1: because I actually just the other night was watching this
Speaker 1: Octopus documentary so I can get to know my boy,
Speaker 1: my boy, Marv a little bit better.
Speaker 2: You can only go to positive things.
Speaker 1: Here we go, Dude, did you know with all their
Speaker 1: suction cups, you know they have like fucking thousand suction
Speaker 1: cups or whatever. Did you know that whenever they're crawling
Speaker 1: on the ground, they taste everything that they feel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and also that they have eight I want to say,
Speaker 1: nine brains, and.
Speaker 2: They have one of each of one of their legs
Speaker 2: and then the main one.
Speaker 1: Dude, each fucking tentacle is a has a brain for itself.
Speaker 1: Like that's that's how crazy that is.
Speaker 3: They're sentient, Like they are way smarter than what we've
Speaker 3: ever understood. That's why they have to be kept in
Speaker 3: such crazy conditions because like they will break out of
Speaker 3: their enclosures. I told you the story about that one
Speaker 3: that like the dude was feeding it shrimp and like
Speaker 3: some of them were dead and he didn't know. The octopus,
Speaker 3: who had never been out of its enclosure, allegedly just
Speaker 3: off of its own knowledge, broke out of its enclosure,
Speaker 3: went to this dude's office through the dead ones at
Speaker 3: its head, and then went back to its enclosure before
Speaker 3: he could even get up and go get it.
Speaker 2: My man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, don't get me in a really yeah things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh, there's a there's a bunch of like really
Speaker 1: interesting things about them. You know, they only live three
Speaker 1: to five years. I thought that they lived way longer
Speaker 1: than that. I thought, like octopus, if they're so sentient
Speaker 1: and so smart and everything, maybe they found a way
Speaker 1: to be able to live like one hundred years or
Speaker 1: something like that. And also that a so they have
Speaker 1: like how they're born. They're born from like eggs and shit,
Speaker 1: you know, the fucking mother, dude, the mother gives birth
Speaker 1: to sixty nine thousand eggs at a time. I did
Speaker 1: not know that, and only one percent of them end
Speaker 1: up living.
Speaker 3: To your point, though, bro, intellect does not equal longevity
Speaker 3: like at all. Just because you're smart doesn't mean you'll
Speaker 3: live a long time. That's just that's how it goes.
Speaker 3: They have no real defense other than camouflage, Like they're
Speaker 3: not good predators quote unquote, but it's not like they
Speaker 3: have a hard outer shell to protect from any kind
Speaker 3: of predators or anything like that.
Speaker 2: They're pretty easy to fuck up.
Speaker 1: And speaking of camouflage, you know, they're colorblind. Like how
Speaker 1: crazy is it that you can go full on camouflage
Speaker 1: and match your entire environment, but you don't even see
Speaker 1: the color that you're matching with. Like that's crazy as fuck, right,
Speaker 1: that is insane.
Speaker 3: But they are experts at camouflaging with the world around them.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'm just fascinated by all that fucking useless knowledge.
Speaker 1: Spirit animal. Go ahead, sir, you got the double hand
Speaker 1: raised You're like infamous for like having the hand button,
Speaker 1: the hand raised button and raising your own hand.
Speaker 2: It's like I had to jump in.
Speaker 9: Okay, so uh, I'm aging. So I just find it funny.
Speaker 18: We knew Japan twice and they start fucking octupy.
Speaker 12: But if you would have done a third time, I
Speaker 12: semi wouldn't be here. But no, did you know that octopus?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 17: They actually well squid and then you have the giant squid,
Speaker 17: which actually, uh they.
Speaker 20: Did not believe existed, but the Vikings and all the
Speaker 20: sea people called it the cracking.
Speaker 12: Uh they it has Uh they've actually pulled they pulled
Speaker 12: up one dead.
Speaker 18: It was a female.
Speaker 4: I don't know if they pulled off one not yet
Speaker 4: but anyway, Uh, it has been known to fuck up
Speaker 4: whales and sharks to end. There has been even so
Speaker 4: there's even been a squid that had that got pissed
Speaker 4: off at a dishing vestable and it has deprived it
Speaker 4: up on top of it.
Speaker 12: It was a small one, but it kimbed up on
Speaker 12: top of it.
Speaker 2: I could believe that, and really assholes apparently so.
Speaker 1: Pretty fat creatures. So uh, let's see. The Big Grimbowski said, Hey,
Speaker 1: I made it home safe, so that means I'm out
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Speaker 2: Check out, Oh the Great Grimbowski.
Speaker 1: Been a minute since we had what's that?
Speaker 6: Grim is the shit? That's my boy?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Grim is the fucking man.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 1: He's actually helping me because he works for like an
Speaker 1: RV company. He's actually helping me try and find a
Speaker 1: decent uh decent priced one.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, dude, we need to make that trip happen
Speaker 3: to go up north to what's that town that's abandoned.
Speaker 1: Oh, Dudley Town.
Speaker 2: Dudley Town. Yo.
Speaker 3: I reached out to him and sent him the info
Speaker 3: for it, and he's like, yes, we need to go.
Speaker 3: We need to make content with this. Let's sneak onto
Speaker 3: the fucking forbidden city. Let's make it happen, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: you know, this is what's gonna come to hell Town.
Speaker 6: Helltown, Ohio.
Speaker 16: Baby, It's an abandoned city that the government took over
Speaker 16: and kicked everyone out of the land.
Speaker 6: In every single conspiracy you.
Speaker 16: Can think of is there, from Satanists to missing children
Speaker 16: to government government ups, to toxic spill waste being poured
Speaker 16: on the land, ancient Indian sios.
Speaker 6: No no, no, that's in Pennsylvania. But this place has.
Speaker 16: History with Indians being slaughtered on it and the land
Speaker 16: being taken over, not once in the eighteen hundreds but
Speaker 16: again in the nineteen seventies when Nixon signed the Parks
Speaker 16: Bill National Parks Bill, and they literally this the homes
Speaker 16: on this property, the people that lived there were so
Speaker 16: self sufficient.
Speaker 6: All the homes were gorgeous. It was beautiful.
Speaker 16: It's a Cuyahoga Valley area in northeast Ohio. Yeah, they
Speaker 16: literally fought off National Guard. And this was at the
Speaker 16: same time National Guard to come to Kent State and
Speaker 16: murdered for students.
Speaker 2: So we're doing an episody. We're doing an episode about it.
Speaker 2: I just wrote it down. Hell, this is going to
Speaker 2: be an episode worthy.
Speaker 6: Hell Towns itself.
Speaker 16: But I have a whole podcast just on my Kent
Speaker 16: State research and I wanted to hop on here real quick, guys.
Speaker 16: I did a show with Janet recently, and I know
Speaker 16: she reached out and told you guys about it, at
Speaker 16: least Jonathan on the primary.
Speaker 2: Water Primary Water.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 6: We did the show last week.
Speaker 1: What's the name of your show?
Speaker 6: I don't have a show.
Speaker 16: I went on Janet show and goes okay, okay, she interviewed,
Speaker 16: she interviewed me, and well mostly this woman, Christine Gilbertie.
Speaker 16: She's the wife of a man named Joseph Gilbertie down
Speaker 16: in Fort Myers Beach, Florida.
Speaker 6: He's been an engineer his whole life. His father was
Speaker 6: an engineer. This family has really good morals. So this
Speaker 6: this guy just a quick rundown.
Speaker 16: This guy, Joe, was hired by a land investment group
Speaker 16: made up of judges, lawyers, and doctors. They came to
Speaker 16: this farmer and said they wanted to buy some parcels
Speaker 16: off of them, develop the land, and whatever they put
Speaker 16: on the land, he would have rights to it also
Speaker 16: and make millions of dollars. So, of course the farmers
Speaker 16: say well, all right, let's do it. So they hired
Speaker 16: Joe to come out to this farmer's property and mind
Speaker 16: the lands, test it, see what's on it, and to
Speaker 16: help start developing it. Joe had recently also done water
Speaker 16: piping up and down the coast along the railroads. He's
Speaker 16: done a lot of work. He knows what he's doing
Speaker 16: when it comes to water. So fast forward, Joe's been
Speaker 16: working on the property. He's got an email chain between him,
Speaker 16: this investment group, and the farmer. Joe wasn't being paid
Speaker 16: for his work for months. He told him he wasn't
Speaker 16: going to continue to work. He had a meeting with
Speaker 16: his people and all of their lawyers who are involved
Speaker 16: with this group, all these different men who were involved
Speaker 16: in this investment group. He went to a meeting with him,
Speaker 16: and he said their lawyers were sweating profusely, and he
Speaker 16: felt like there was something else going on that wasn't
Speaker 16: on the surface. They started to mention this, well it's
Speaker 16: a natural spring. Well they not a natural spring.
Speaker 6: They dug down. This farmer's.
Speaker 16: Father or grandfather drilled down into the earth and down
Speaker 16: fifteen hundred feet and this water that's coming out of
Speaker 16: it is immaculate. Well, Joe had no idea about the water. Really,
Speaker 16: he knew that there was water there, but he didn't
Speaker 16: know how important it was. He pretty much in this
Speaker 16: meeting he heard them kept mentioning the water. He went
Speaker 16: to this farmer, he put a lean on this farmer's land.
Speaker 16: He protected it from this investment group. They even came
Speaker 16: after Joe just for doing that. Once Joe got the
Speaker 16: water tested and found out what it is, he's been
Speaker 16: trying to get it to humanity for the past thirteen
Speaker 16: years and he's been sitting in jail for a year
Speaker 16: over it.
Speaker 6: So what are those not doing with story justice? What
Speaker 6: makes I got to listen to the podcast?
Speaker 1: But what makes the water so immaculate?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: Does it have healing properties or what's going on?
Speaker 16: Yes, brother, this is the closest thing to the Fountain
Speaker 16: of youth wherever gonna find? Oh shit, I'm going to
Speaker 16: I don't mean to take over the chat, but this,
Speaker 16: if you're a godly person or not, I have a
Speaker 16: test and that I am dying to share. I found
Speaker 16: a story out a year ago. I was involved in
Speaker 16: a relationship with a very jealous woman. She was upset
Speaker 16: that I've been corresponding with Christine because the moment i'd
Speaker 16: heard her story, when I called her and found out
Speaker 16: I'm skipping all over the place, I found Joe's Instagram page.
Speaker 16: He had a phone number on it. I for some reason,
Speaker 16: something in me said, call this man and get the
Speaker 16: in and get him on podcasts. I'm not a podcaster.
Speaker 16: I'm a huge podcast fan. I listened to fucking all
Speaker 16: of you. I'm not kidding across the board, and I've
Speaker 16: gotten on a few shows just to talk shit. This
Speaker 16: is a serious issue. I have to get the word
Speaker 16: out to I've been on Catalyst Jones Show and Janet
Speaker 16: Show so far.
Speaker 6: But so I called this guy. I got his wife instead.
Speaker 16: She was in tears, breaking down to me, a woman
Speaker 16: I've never met, telling me her husband had just been
Speaker 16: taken off to jail and he's stays in fifteen years
Speaker 16: in prison over shit charges.
Speaker 2: Say what were the charges?
Speaker 16: Frivolous emails causing panic and leans and the word frivolous
Speaker 16: was used. And I'm gonna tell you guys, guys, Oh man,
Speaker 16: I wish I could have a private conversation with you
Speaker 16: guys for a fucking hour because I got a Brandon
Speaker 16: Joe on the show for you guys.
Speaker 2: Right, let's make this happen. Come on the show. Let's
Speaker 2: make an episode happen. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I want to bring on you.
Speaker 16: I want to get her message out more than anything.
Speaker 16: But I'm telling you, guys, God is moving me towards
Speaker 16: doing this work. My friend left me for her ex
Speaker 16: down to Florida, where this story is at. And the
Speaker 16: moment she left me, I called Christine and I said,
Speaker 16: I'm getting you on podcasts. And the ball has been
Speaker 16: rolling like someone shoved me down a fucking mountain.
Speaker 1: Well, let's make this Yeah, yeah, let's we'll talk about
Speaker 1: this afterward. But I would love to have this kind
Speaker 1: of conversation, especially with somebody so close to the source,
Speaker 1: like the wife, like that's yeah, yeah, I would love to.
Speaker 6: Hear that someone. It's full of emotion, it's it will
Speaker 6: grab your attention.
Speaker 16: The things that have happened to this man and their
Speaker 16: family is horrific, and it's all over water, primary water
Speaker 16: that they could be you this, it's it's volcanic tubes
Speaker 16: that run there's an ocean under our fucking keet.
Speaker 6: Guys, Yeah, of this water. Okay, you asked about the water.
Speaker 16: It's the Joe had sample sent off to I want
Speaker 16: to say, New Mexico. The readings came back to him.
Speaker 16: He didn't know what the fuck he was looking at.
Speaker 16: He took it to one of the most well known
Speaker 16: water experts in Florida. He read it instantly, was like,
Speaker 16: where did you get this? Where? Where is the source
Speaker 16: of water coming from?
Speaker 6: He told them. He's like, well, what's it say?
Speaker 16: It's got an extremely high mineral content, it's antioxidant, it's.
Speaker 6: Alkaline, and it has it's hydrogenated.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, Yeah, that's really hit all the point.
Speaker 6: To the ground. There's zero impurities, and there's an ocean
Speaker 6: of it.
Speaker 1: Well, and I imagine probably probably being filtered through the
Speaker 1: volcanic kind of rock, right, Like that's usually that's like
Speaker 1: what all the good water is filtered by, like poorous
Speaker 1: volcanic rock in that sense. So yeah, I would definitely
Speaker 1: be interested. Look, try and set that up with her.
Speaker 1: I want to have both of you, or we want
Speaker 1: to have both of you guys. Come on, let's try
Speaker 1: and set that up soon, dude.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm trying to get her on bigger podcasts. I'm
Speaker 16: Sam Tripley's coming to Cleveland in June.
Speaker 6: Thirteenth.
Speaker 16: I believe I bought tickets. I bought two tickets. I
Speaker 16: am going by myself. I'm it's a Q and A
Speaker 16: with Eddie Bravo, and I'm going to open my mouth
Speaker 16: and tell them about it.
Speaker 6: Also, this story has got to be told. Man.
Speaker 16: It's fucking The implications for the water and the government
Speaker 16: cover up and the local municipality corruption is so disgusting
Speaker 16: that not only could we get this water to the people,
Speaker 16: we can get real carrying humans into proper places and
Speaker 16: get the corruption the fuck out.
Speaker 2: I have one week, dude, Holy shit.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 22: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you know what's interesting this is this conversation is
Speaker 1: even more in depth to whenever you look into the
Speaker 1: owner of Nesley with the Nesley Pure Life Water. He
Speaker 1: believes that, like every single drop of water that is
Speaker 1: being consumed by humans should be like ran through corporations.
Speaker 1: He doesn't believe that there should be any spring water
Speaker 1: available to the public. He doesn't believe that anybody should
Speaker 1: be catching any kind of ran water or anything like that.
Speaker 1: He thinks that if you are not buying your water
Speaker 1: from a government or a corporation type of source, that
Speaker 1: you should be reprimanded. That's the owner of fucking Nesley
Speaker 1: Water saying that, and that was actually a few years ago.
Speaker 1: So that makes this whole conversation a little bit more interesting,
Speaker 1: because if there is some kind of primary water source
Speaker 1: that is really good for you and not deprived of
Speaker 1: all the minerals and pumped with all the different bullshit
Speaker 1: that they're putting in water, yeah, I would imagine that
Speaker 1: would have a major impact on a big corporation like Nesley.
Speaker 6: Right, all right, Joe has Joe. There's Joe's on Instagram.
Speaker 16: It's Joe Giberti twenty twenty four for any of you
Speaker 16: in the check and wanted to check it out. His
Speaker 16: website's Blue gilbertibluegold dot com. He's been the moment he
Speaker 16: found the water, he pretty much envisioned his plans. He
Speaker 16: went to town hall, medi beings, he went to the mayor,
Speaker 16: he went to the governor of his plans to pump
Speaker 16: that water from Saraso to Florida, all the way up
Speaker 16: the coast to different hospitals, schools, nursing homes, places where
Speaker 16: people absolutely needed this fucking water.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, like I said, we'll definitely, well, we're for
Speaker 1: sure we're going to set that up.
Speaker 16: It goes deeper if even connected to some other trauma
Speaker 16: events like the Boston bombing and the Florida school shooting.
Speaker 16: Mary Mary got always messed.
Speaker 2: It up well where David Hagg came in and was
Speaker 2: talking that shit.
Speaker 16: Yes, yes, yes, he was supposed to go to that
Speaker 16: building and he filed papers at that building, was supposed
Speaker 16: to show up there, and before he was supposed to
Speaker 16: show up there, that happened.
Speaker 6: Okay, I think it's connected.
Speaker 1: Okay, look it gets deep.
Speaker 6: Bay Less.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm full.
Speaker 6: Very passionate about this absolutely, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm really looking forward to that, like that
Speaker 1: kind of yeah, that kind of corruption. Yeah, sign us up. Maybe.
Speaker 16: Yeah, if you can check out Janet's Quick Show, just
Speaker 16: give it five minutes watch and then let me know
Speaker 16: how I can get my contact to you guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, to either dm.
Speaker 3: Us on Patreon or if you go to Instagram Jonathan
Speaker 3: will answer it. Patreon all answer it. But either way
Speaker 3: it goes.
Speaker 2: We're going to make this happen, gotcha, guys.
Speaker 6: I appreciate you. I'm gonna get off here.
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, thanks man, you too, appreciate you, guys.
Speaker 1: Of course, the not to have a serious change of topics.
Speaker 1: But when we were talking about Martha Stewart, white Boy
Speaker 1: Wizard said, I'd smash next question.
Speaker 2: Not judging you, No, I would do.
Speaker 1: I mean, I kind of have a gilt fet of shit.
Speaker 1: It's I don't know what it is, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't, I don't, but I will say Betty
Speaker 3: White rip, she could have got it, like you know,
Speaker 3: it's Betty fucking White, dude.
Speaker 1: And dude, you know she has a quote out there
Speaker 1: that says, I don't know why everybody that everybody that
Speaker 1: call something a pussy is said to be weak. She goes,
Speaker 1: you ever seen a pussy? Those things take a pounding.
Speaker 1: That's a Betty White quote, you old savage.
Speaker 2: I remember her saying this is basically that. But it
Speaker 2: was something of like whenever something's really tough, it's like,
Speaker 2: oh man, he's got a lot of balls on him.
Speaker 3: Balls are weak. You kick him and the guy's going down.
Speaker 3: Pussy's on the other hand, boy, they they take a
Speaker 3: beating and they.
Speaker 2: Just keep on coming.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know what, Betty, if nothing else about you,
Speaker 3: I like your gump shit' bro, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: She was actually a Fox back in the day too.
Speaker 2: Bro did you see her pin ups.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's it's not like you know, scandily pin ups,
Speaker 3: but like back in the forties and fifties, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you're feeling for that time fifties and.
Speaker 2: Yo, Betty was. Betty was a fucking fox dude.
Speaker 1: Yea was, Yeah she was. And just in tribute if
Speaker 1: she was still around, I'd hollo, there's no doubt, just
Speaker 1: in tribute and you know, to a tribute to her younger.
Speaker 2: Oh, just it as a tribute. I'm with you, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 22: Uh.
Speaker 3: Speaking of crazy terms, I don't see Blunkin in the
Speaker 3: chat tonight. Oh it suppost to be working or something.
Speaker 1: Ali Katz said, as a white girl, we age like
Speaker 1: milk twenty Bucks says that isn't even Martha. We got
Speaker 1: a clone over here.
Speaker 2: Yo that there may be something to that one as well.
Speaker 2: Real shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. White boy Wizard said, NAC
Speaker 1: is good for literally every bodily system. Been taking it
Speaker 1: for years. I have had or I have that in
Speaker 1: course coursetin uh to my homies, or I gave that
Speaker 1: and Corstin to my homies. I don't know what course
Speaker 1: the fucking ten is. Who got COVID cleared them up
Speaker 1: in twenty four hours or less.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: Actually a fun fact they uh, because NAC was going
Speaker 1: around like a lot for the people that were questioning
Speaker 1: the vaccines and stuff during COVID, they actually stopped selling
Speaker 1: it on Amazon because everybody was going to go buy it.
Speaker 2: I believe it.
Speaker 3: Do you remember when everybody was going on about quanine
Speaker 3: and like that's the cure for everything. You went to
Speaker 3: any store to find tonic water, which that's not the
Speaker 3: only source of it, but like that has it in it.
Speaker 3: These people were chugging tonic water like it was going.
Speaker 2: Out of style.
Speaker 12: I was too.
Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody's ever tasted tonic water without gin.
Speaker 2: This shit's nasty.
Speaker 1: Well they have they have flavored one. It's like, uh
Speaker 1: fever fever pitch or fever fever tree. That's what it was.
Speaker 1: That was the name of the tonic bottles that I
Speaker 1: was getting their flavored that. I thought they tasted pretty
Speaker 1: good and it even said right on the bottle has
Speaker 1: quinine or I.
Speaker 2: Mean I liked it.
Speaker 3: When you would throw a shot or two with some
Speaker 3: Hendricks in it, or you know, some Hayman's naval strength
Speaker 3: gin that made it all the more drinkable, but by itself.
Speaker 3: Good lord, it's like, actually, I believe you would drink it.
Speaker 3: I believe you would because you like kombucha in drinking
Speaker 3: vinegar tasting shit and that that's it's a flavor palette thing.
Speaker 2: Bro I just ain't got it.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, I'll throw it down all that kind of shit,
Speaker 1: like a give me a Trulia or truly whatever they are,
Speaker 1: the seltzer beers fucking love.
Speaker 3: It's like a white claw. I mean it's it's it's
Speaker 3: flavored alcoholic water, you know. I mean that's fine, but like, no,
Speaker 3: it doesn't taste like vinegar.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, I wish it did.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 3: See, do you like drinking apple cider vinegar? I know
Speaker 3: there's like tons of health benefits and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: That's hard to drink.
Speaker 2: Enjoy that shit.
Speaker 1: No, that's hard to drink. Even for me. I do
Speaker 1: have it, and it's it's really good for like fat
Speaker 1: burning and shit like that. But you have to get it.
Speaker 1: You can't just get that. You have to get the
Speaker 1: bottle that says with the mother on it. If you're
Speaker 1: talking about apple cider vinegar vinegar. Because it's the mother,
Speaker 1: which is like, that's where all the nutrients and shit
Speaker 1: are really at.
Speaker 2: Dude, I can't distinguish a taste difference between that and.
Speaker 1: Oh no, applesade of vinegar is way more harsh than kombucha.
Speaker 2: My tongue tastes the same thing with both, Dude, I can't.
Speaker 2: It's nasty.
Speaker 1: You don't get down some sauer kraut.
Speaker 2: Fuck? No, dad, you know that about me? Dude? Why
Speaker 2: vinegar cabbage? Oh yeah you no, fuck both of those items.
Speaker 22: What?
Speaker 1: I will give so.
Speaker 2: Many better things that the German people have created. They created,
Speaker 2: brought worst.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you mix that with some sauerkrawt and mashed potatoes.
Speaker 1: That's a German fucking sensation right there, sir.
Speaker 3: No, you you beer battery and put it on a
Speaker 3: bun and call it a day. We don't need to
Speaker 3: fuck it up with vegetables and vinegar.
Speaker 1: I will slurp sauer krawd out of your beard, sir.
Speaker 1: That's how delicious he is to me.
Speaker 3: If sour kraut's touching my beard, I better be fucking dead.
Speaker 3: I don't want to smell that shit all day.
Speaker 1: Good God, go ahead, Why, boy, wizard, what are your
Speaker 1: thought on all of the Sauer Krawd, the kombucha, the
Speaker 1: fever pitch, fever pitch, what was it? What did I say?
Speaker 1: Fever treat?
Speaker 6: That's what it was.
Speaker 14: Here, half red and neck, half hit boy. Hippi comes
Speaker 14: from Mama. Mama makes well. She quit a couple of
Speaker 14: years ago, but for a good ten or twelve years
Speaker 14: she was making us all.
Speaker 2: Our own kombucha. And she makes our own freaking homemade.
Speaker 14: Sour craft dog and it is the best shit on
Speaker 14: the entire planet, and it's so fucking good for your gut.
Speaker 14: But then also that quinine shit that you guys were
Speaker 14: talking about, so quiers it in, quierce it in with
Speaker 14: vitamin D, vitamin A, vitamin C, and then that knack,
Speaker 14: and then I was having the sick, like the like
Speaker 14: my mom got it really bad.
Speaker 12: She was sick as fuck.
Speaker 14: So you can make your own quinine at home, and
Speaker 14: as easy as fuck to do. You just simmer the
Speaker 14: rinds of three or four organic grapefruit and oranges in
Speaker 14: distilled water. Has to be stainless, has to be a
Speaker 14: glass lid for proper chemical reactions or some shit, but yeah,
Speaker 14: you can make quinine right in your own house.
Speaker 2: It's easy.
Speaker 6: Shit.
Speaker 2: Wow, are you seeing videos about that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Are you playing on? Are you plan on going to
Speaker 1: Brahemian Grove?
Speaker 16: Sir?
Speaker 14: No, I'm not gonna work it out of this year, dude,
Speaker 14: I freaking yeah. Long story short. I've been running my
Speaker 14: own gig, my own outfit for years and years and years,
Speaker 14: and like we finally hit the point where we started
Speaker 14: slowing down. I kind of divorced myself with some of
Speaker 14: the other people I've been involved with, so it's been
Speaker 14: a slow couple of.
Speaker 2: Months for me.
Speaker 14: So this year probably not gonna work out, which fucking sucks.
Speaker 1: But that's all right. We're gonna be doing this shit forever.
Speaker 22: Well.
Speaker 1: I don't know about BRAHAMI and Grove. I don't they
Speaker 1: that's their thing Nefhelum Death Squad. But yeah, we definitely
Speaker 1: plan on having events like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we definitely plan on doing events like that at
Speaker 1: least once a year for forever, whether we're included or
Speaker 1: if we're running it.
Speaker 3: Either way, I am excited to actually meet Sam Tripley
Speaker 3: I know, and Benjamin you know what I mean. We've
Speaker 3: talked to them before, but like actually meeting with them
Speaker 3: and like shooting the shit. I feel like they're solid
Speaker 3: dudes like off Cam two. So I yeah, I'm pumped
Speaker 3: about that.
Speaker 1: I one's a little unhinged, but that's what I like
Speaker 1: about them. And also Sam, Dude Sam. Some people talk
Speaker 1: shit about Sam. I actually like our experience over on
Speaker 1: Tenfoil Hat was really good. They were super nice after
Speaker 1: the episode. They were like, wow, you guys are you know,
Speaker 1: you work really well and you're you're really well put together.
Speaker 1: They had nothing but compliments and everything. Really nice people.
Speaker 3: I could understand why some people wouldn't get down with him.
Speaker 3: He's got a very dominating personality. And if you're a
Speaker 3: person that can't like bullshit with that kind of thing
Speaker 3: and roll with the punches and keep the conversation going,
Speaker 3: then Like I could see how some people because I've said,
Speaker 3: I've read some of the comments on his shit and
Speaker 3: it's like, Sam, let your guests talk bup up.
Speaker 2: Up well, Like, if you're going to be a guest
Speaker 2: on a show, you need to have things to talk about.
Speaker 2: Like that's what that works. You got to roll with it,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've had guests that we kind of had to
Speaker 1: pick up the slack a little bit. So I get it.
Speaker 1: And that's not to say that every person that he's
Speaker 1: you know, had on a show, he's had to do
Speaker 1: that or whatever, but there's sometimes you know, like you
Speaker 1: you set yourself up for two or three hour show
Speaker 1: and the person has they say they have so much
Speaker 1: information that's gonna be able to fill it out, and
Speaker 1: then they only got forty five minutes worth of shit,
Speaker 1: and so then we got to try and dive in
Speaker 1: a little bit deeper and try and find out, you know,
Speaker 1: more information to really help it come full circle. So
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, we're all just people. It took us
Speaker 1: a long time. Like you know, in August is gonna
Speaker 1: be our five year anniversary.
Speaker 2: I know, I'm pumped. Yeah, I'm pumped.
Speaker 1: If anybody goes back.
Speaker 3: In a thousand episodes this year, dude, oh we're gonna
Speaker 3: break that probably in two months.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. It might be around our five
Speaker 2: year mark that we break a thousand episodes.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, very possible. But yeah, I mean, anybody
Speaker 1: that goes back and listens to our I just saw
Speaker 1: like like one of those Facebook memories or whatever, because
Speaker 1: we used to post like clips and shit onto our Facebook.
Speaker 1: My god, like when we first started. Dude, it's like
Speaker 1: night and day.
Speaker 3: We're so much like better. I believe that we're a
Speaker 3: lot more well rounded now than we were back then.
Speaker 3: It was kind of hard to listen to in the
Speaker 3: in the beginning, it was, uh, you know, it's it's
Speaker 3: fun to look back and see how we have grown,
Speaker 3: not just as people and as friends, but also as podcasters,
Speaker 3: how the show has progressed and all day it's, uh,
Speaker 3: it is absolutely gone up drastically since Oh, i'd even
Speaker 3: say two years ago to now. It's like still a
Speaker 3: night and day difference, but it's like you gotta walk
Speaker 3: before you can fly, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I would say that even like even the
Speaker 1: shows that it's just me and you like, the way
Speaker 1: that we research is way better now than it has
Speaker 1: ever been. I think, you know, the how we research it,
Speaker 1: how we're able to regurgitate it and talk about it
Speaker 1: and understand the concept of certain things because not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: There was a couple of times where we when we
Speaker 1: first started, we were trying to talk about shit that
Speaker 1: we really didn't know what the fuck we were saying. Like,
Speaker 1: just looking back, if you have you gone back and
Speaker 1: listened to like some of our early shit, because my god,
Speaker 1: we sounded a little like I'm not gonna say posers
Speaker 1: because no, that's not what we were doing. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it was pretty hard.
Speaker 3: No, I don't go back and listen to things. Brother,
Speaker 3: I don't look at the past. That distracts from the now.
Speaker 3: You know, it's in the past, It's back there somewhere,
Speaker 3: it's in the rear view mirror. Why would I Why
Speaker 3: am I driving my car by looking through my.
Speaker 2: Rear view mirror. That's just not how I do business.
Speaker 3: But for looking back, for the nostalgia of it, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'll find like clips and stuff that I'll play back
Speaker 3: and be like, damn, damn.
Speaker 2: Look at the camera quality, listen to the sound quality.
Speaker 3: It's like, ah, but I don't think I've actually gone
Speaker 3: back and listened to an older episode probably Ever, you.
Speaker 1: Were a chunky monkey back then too, Dude.
Speaker 2: I had some weight on me and then I lost
Speaker 2: all the weight.
Speaker 3: Now I'm putting the weight back on, and I'm trying
Speaker 3: to lose it again because this is not the good
Speaker 3: weight that I want to put on.
Speaker 2: I want to put a muscle mass, and I've redeveloped
Speaker 2: a gut.
Speaker 1: What are you up to one seventy five.
Speaker 3: Now one eighty seven, right now, Wow, you're really getting
Speaker 3: up there, buddy.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I want to be compared weight with muscle.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah no.
Speaker 3: But at that time, I was like two thirty, Like
Speaker 3: that's the heaviest've ever been in my life. And I
Speaker 3: know for some people that's not a lot, but for me,
Speaker 3: I've always been the skinny kid. Two thirty was a lot. Right,
Speaker 3: I got down to like one sixty five. Depression of
Speaker 3: anxieties a motherfucker. Talk about that another time, but you know,
Speaker 3: it'd be like that. Now I'm up to like one
Speaker 3: eighty seven, and I'm happy. I'm a happier human being
Speaker 3: and that's good, and I'm putting on that happy weight.
Speaker 3: But but I want to be floating around this with
Speaker 3: muscle mass, not flab. So I got to reget back
Speaker 3: down to the baseline so that I could rebuild myself
Speaker 3: up with the muscle and all of that.
Speaker 2: But we're it's a journey, you know.
Speaker 17: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been getting back in the gym here a
Speaker 1: little bit lately too, and just trying to get the
Speaker 1: summer body, you know.
Speaker 2: So Merlin said, like one hundred things we haven't read yet. Jesus,
Speaker 2: we gotta stick on the messages, y'all.
Speaker 1: Merlin said, I'm trying to get Martha Stewart and Serena
Speaker 1: Williams in the Lincoln bedroom with a yummy panini.
Speaker 2: Jesus the love of God.
Speaker 1: Merlin, uh zombie said Epstein Island had that video photo
Speaker 1: of them eating bodies. That level doesn't surprise me. I'm
Speaker 1: sure it was absolutely horrific.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm saying that the Diddy parties are probably
Speaker 3: even worse than that from what we are hearing and things.
Speaker 3: I don't know that for a fact. But you know,
Speaker 3: Diddy's starting to talk right now. That whole keeping it silent.
Speaker 2: Because he's such a he's an og, he's a thug.
Speaker 2: He'll never talk.
Speaker 4: Yo.
Speaker 2: No, no, he a baby back bitch, and he is
Speaker 2: diving everybody out.
Speaker 1: So we will see the Diddy that is locked up
Speaker 1: is not even the real Diddy, all right?
Speaker 2: Clone forgot.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not even saying clone. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 1: stand in, Like you know, actors, they all have their
Speaker 1: stand ins for movies and shit like that. And and
Speaker 1: I think, dude, if you look at a picture, like
Speaker 1: we all know what pe Diddy looks like and then
Speaker 1: you see the fucking picture or the video of him
Speaker 1: in jail. Dude, that's two different motherfuckers.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh, speaking of the Diddy that's in jail, have y'all
Speaker 3: heard that there is a musical that is coming out
Speaker 3: around uh Luigi Mangioni.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he is in jail right now.
Speaker 3: With who it's Diddy And then it's the guy who
Speaker 3: was a part of the pyramid shit, what was his name,
Speaker 3: Sam Bankman Freed. That's the guy Sam Bankman Freed. So
Speaker 3: they are now making a musical all about Luigi. These
Speaker 3: two people are gonna be in jail with them. There's
Speaker 3: characters playing them. And I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 3: If you go at and listen to the musical clips
Speaker 3: of these people practicing what their performance is gonna be, Oh,
Speaker 3: it's it's bad.
Speaker 2: It's bad.
Speaker 3: Like they're not even getting people who know how to sing,
Speaker 3: how to carry a note, how to you know, keep
Speaker 3: a tune. Nope, it's about to be a absolute shit
Speaker 3: show trying to make Luigi look like a hero. And
Speaker 3: I mean it's crazy because the musical of what they're
Speaker 3: trying to do could probably fucking slap like that probably
Speaker 3: would be a banger if they would get people with
Speaker 3: talent to perform, But it's not.
Speaker 2: It's not.
Speaker 3: It's like it's a spinoff project from some really bad,
Speaker 3: washed up liberal college drama students who probably failed out
Speaker 3: of drama.
Speaker 2: School, and it's it's it's about to be a clusterfuck.
Speaker 3: But that being said, Diddy is gonna have a little
Speaker 3: bit of a cameo in the musical with your boy
Speaker 3: Sam Bankman.
Speaker 1: So yeah, whatever, that doesn't even tickle my fancy in
Speaker 1: the slightest. In other words, Bro, that's your boy.
Speaker 2: It looks Ai.
Speaker 1: That's his face. Yeah, it's like an AI. They just
Speaker 1: put his face on there. But the picture that I
Speaker 1: was shown earlier, dude, it's too different.
Speaker 2: Court was today. So I'm sure they're gonna have pictures
Speaker 2: of him in court.
Speaker 1: That's how I keep on seeing is these little drawings.
Speaker 1: Was it televised?
Speaker 3: Oh so they don't have uh photographers in the courtroom. Okay,
Speaker 3: it's only artist renditions.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah yeah, But I'm just saying, like this is
Speaker 1: if you look, so even his head shape is different.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a fucking AI. God damn it. You see
Speaker 1: ac but no, I'm talking like if you if you
Speaker 1: look at it though, it is uh like that's not potato.
Speaker 2: Hey, what are we talking about?
Speaker 1: The eyes though? The eyes is what gets me more
Speaker 1: than anything. There has been AI video of this. Oh
Speaker 1: not AI video, but I mean like real video. There's
Speaker 1: also been AI. There's AI everything, like clearly AI. Right,
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's the same thing with fucking Jamie Fox.
Speaker 1: Jamie Fox looks way different now.
Speaker 2: Too, plastic surgery and Adrina Chrome.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Oh, I don't know. I think that
Speaker 1: these are these are not the same people. I think
Speaker 1: that they're just being used for their names, their their
Speaker 1: their titles. That's it. I don't think that these are
Speaker 1: the same at all. And I think that, to be
Speaker 1: honest with you, I think that that is how Hollywood
Speaker 1: has so much control. Hollywood, the government, it's all in
Speaker 1: bed with with with each other anyway. But I think
Speaker 1: that that's how they maintain their level of control. They say, well,
Speaker 1: you are Diddy because we made you into Diddy. You're
Speaker 1: actually just Seawan Combs. You're not Didty like we made Ditty, right,
Speaker 1: And so if you look at it from that perspective,
Speaker 1: their threat level against them could be Look, Diddy is
Speaker 1: going to survive no matter what. Shawn comes, on the
Speaker 1: other hand, maybe not dude.
Speaker 3: Speaking of people reinventing themselves and all the things and stuff.
Speaker 3: So I'm not gonna name drop who this person is.
Speaker 3: I'll say it's a flat earther style content creator.
Speaker 2: You're gonna leave it at that.
Speaker 3: Who apparently believes that Donald Trump is Elvis Presley, And uh,
Speaker 3: I've seen that.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be that guy.
Speaker 3: But also, if you just look at the dates in
Speaker 3: the ages, Donald Trump was born like eleven years after Elvis,
Speaker 3: And when you look at like nineteen seventy one, for instance,
Speaker 3: when Elvis is appearing in Vegas on a stage, Trump
Speaker 3: was taking over his daddy's real estate business.
Speaker 2: None of the ship lines up.
Speaker 3: But my god, this this dude here was on it
Speaker 3: about how Elvis Presley is clearly Donald Trump. And it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, their whereabouts were known about, Like you could
Speaker 3: look up a specific day when Elvis was performing on
Speaker 3: a stage somewhere and there's pictures of Trump in New
Speaker 3: York doing things right like that.
Speaker 2: That's not a that's not even like a talking point here.
Speaker 1: But like faux show, I feel like you're missing the
Speaker 1: concept behind what he's trying to say though, and not
Speaker 1: not even saying.
Speaker 3: Literally that Elvis became Donald Trump, like not a euphemism,
Speaker 3: not like oh the same bloodline. No, no, no, he's saying, legit,
Speaker 3: donald Trump the character that we see on TV, or
Speaker 3: Donald Trump the human being.
Speaker 1: Those are two human beings.
Speaker 2: He's showing like marks on their skin, like scars and stuff.
Speaker 3: And all this to where it's like clearly the same guy,
Speaker 3: and it's like you're looking at two pimples and that's
Speaker 3: your cool.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: I mean, in this day and age, you got to
Speaker 1: question everything. If we found out that Elvis was Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna say, dude, that wouldn't even be
Speaker 1: front page news on some real show.
Speaker 2: Because there no way would that be front page news
Speaker 2: because the news is not going to report on something
Speaker 2: that's that fucking stupid.
Speaker 1: Oh, they wouldn't report on something that they've been keeping
Speaker 1: a secret either, that's not in other news. I did
Speaker 1: want to mention something and then we'll get back to
Speaker 1: the chat, I promise. So there is a whistleblower out
Speaker 1: there and I can't remember her first name, but her
Speaker 1: last name is Lebuff. Okay, has anybody else seen this?
Speaker 1: This is allegedly Shia Lebuff's sister who is blaring the
Speaker 1: horn and she's saying that her and her brother's dad
Speaker 1: was Jeffrey Epstein. Epstein.
Speaker 3: Shia Abuff did an entire movie about his dad. His
Speaker 3: dad was a member of the Mongols one Percent motorcycle
Speaker 3: club that was like an underton.
Speaker 1: Yes she was, but she's saying that there was some
Speaker 1: kind of bloodline liage or something that they've been trying
Speaker 1: to cover up. It seems legit to me. She seems
Speaker 1: like super scared for her life and she's trying to
Speaker 1: talk about it. I don't know, Yeah, I know everything
Speaker 1: you're what you're saying about.
Speaker 3: How d's name is Jeffrey Lebuff. But also no, Shilah
Speaker 3: Buff is a only child, so there's that.
Speaker 1: I just I'm just I'm just saying what she's saying.
Speaker 1: She's saying it's almost like a parent trap kind of
Speaker 1: situation where they got separated, they didn't know about each other,
Speaker 1: and there was like a whole bunch of like parent
Speaker 1: switching and blood lineage lines and like weird shit was
Speaker 1: this TikTok? It was on social I don't remember which
Speaker 1: one it was on social media? Okay, I mean where
Speaker 1: else are you gonna see it? YouTube? Is that a
Speaker 1: better source?
Speaker 2: No, that's kind of my point.
Speaker 3: Was it content or like you said, it's a whistleblower
Speaker 3: so it's getting like blasted on every outlet ever because
Speaker 3: it's like breaking news kind of thing. Or is it
Speaker 3: somebody who's claiming something like how many people whenever that
Speaker 3: chick on the plane was talking like that person? Not now,
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that that woman doesn't exist, but how
Speaker 3: many people came out and said that they were that
Speaker 3: and it was all fake accounts and shit like yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's look, I'm I'm I'm just throwing it out there.
Speaker 3: This is just something that I saw. It seemed legit
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 1: Everybody in the in the comments and everything was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I think she's actually on some shit
Speaker 1: right here. I don't know, I don't know what, I
Speaker 1: don't know as far as that goes. I just want
Speaker 1: to throw it out there. We might mean, we might
Speaker 1: be saying his.
Speaker 2: Dad was a piece of shit for years.
Speaker 3: It's very possible he fathered other children that like he
Speaker 3: never knew about and stuff that's very possible.
Speaker 1: What she's saying. What she's saying is that that's a front.
Speaker 1: That's what she was saying.
Speaker 2: The whole dad situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh okay, well we're talking Hollywood here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 3: But I mean, if that's the case, then the entire
Speaker 3: story of his dad that was in Honeyboy, which is
Speaker 3: a movie like kind of a homage to his dad,
Speaker 3: the whole backstory of his childhood in California, all of
Speaker 3: that was just a big ass lie, which could be
Speaker 3: very well could be not saying that, Like everything Shia
Speaker 3: says has always been truthful. I mean, he let's not
Speaker 3: forget the whole four chan uh capture the flag game
Speaker 3: that was going on there because he was losing his
Speaker 3: fucking mind for a good bit there. I mean, I
Speaker 3: get it, but I mean to your point, also, what
Speaker 3: was Bill Burr and the lead singer of the Silver
Speaker 3: Sun pickups or it was a Smashing Pumpkins mabe. I
Speaker 3: forget they have the same dad and they didn't know
Speaker 3: about each other until they were like thirty. So I mean,
Speaker 3: it's it's not out of the realm of possibility. But also,
Speaker 3: if this chick is claiming the last name Labuff and
Speaker 3: that's the story. Then, like I don't know, I feel
Speaker 3: like there might be a little more legal connections to.
Speaker 1: This rather than I don't know, found the video. Tell
Speaker 1: me what you think, all right, So this could be bullshit.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Twins sister, Okay, so not only his dad, his mom
Speaker 2: would have to be in on it too.
Speaker 1: It says Shila Buff has a twin sister who was
Speaker 1: separated from and put into a cult. That's what she's saying.
Speaker 1: And so this isn't her account, This isn't the one
Speaker 1: that I saw. But this is just the first thing
Speaker 1: that pulled up. But yeah, I'll play it real quick.
Speaker 2: Sure. My name is.
Speaker 23: Anya or Anna Rick formerly an A Pachova, formerly Owen
Speaker 23: Theodore Epstein born Anya bet Epstein on June fourth, nineteen
Speaker 23: eighty eight in Boulder, Colorado, with my twin brother, Shia Labuff,
Speaker 23: to our father, Stephen Bruce Epstein and our mother, Shana
Speaker 23: Sadie Lebuff, who separated us forging our birth certificates as
Speaker 23: part of a ritualized, highly organized, generationally planned child trafficking
Speaker 23: cult that initiates three year olds and deifies incest and inbreeding.
Speaker 23: I have not been in danger, just been incredibly anxious. However,
Speaker 23: the world deserves for the truth to belong to the public.
Speaker 23: This is for accountability. If for any reason I failed
Speaker 23: to appear in my interviews this weekend, you are more
Speaker 23: than welcome and encouraged to upload everything from your accounts.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I thought dates are off.
Speaker 3: According to the you know Shi himself, he was born
Speaker 3: in June eleventh, nineteen eighty six, not eighty eight, and
Speaker 3: in Los Angeles, not Bolder, which would make sense because
Speaker 3: he's lived most, if not all, of his life in California.
Speaker 3: That's why his dad was a member of the Mongols
Speaker 3: Motorcycle Club, which is a California based MC. But I mean, okay, sure,
Speaker 3: you could all be a fake. It could all be
Speaker 3: a part of the narrative that was laid out before
Speaker 3: him by Disney. I mean, he was a Disney child story.
Speaker 2: I get that.
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying, like, the truth is always stranger
Speaker 1: than fiction, especially whenever it comes to Hollywood. And we
Speaker 1: can't say that Epstein was running a super sick, satanic
Speaker 1: pedophile ring for as many years as he did, with
Speaker 1: all the connections that he did. And I don't know
Speaker 1: we don't know the names that are on that list.
Speaker 1: I think that this could be I'm not going to
Speaker 1: say the reason why. I think that this could be
Speaker 1: an adding reason why. Like, think about it, if Hollywood
Speaker 1: has been covering up stories like this, that there are
Speaker 1: satanic incess calls out there that they are using to
Speaker 1: mk ultra program in order to turn them into Hollywood stars,
Speaker 1: in order to mk ultra the masses that would not
Speaker 1: look good on America in general. Hence why I think
Speaker 1: that all those files and all those names are not
Speaker 1: going to be released.
Speaker 3: I mean, I get that, but I also whenever some
Speaker 3: random TikTok video or any video, it doesn't have to
Speaker 3: just be TikTok. I know I have a hatred towards it,
Speaker 3: but aside from just TikTok YouTube doesn't fucking matter, whatever
Speaker 3: comes out and makes a bunch of bowl clars that
Speaker 3: are a Google search away, and if it was something real,
Speaker 3: you would have, you know, something maybe credible, some proof,
Speaker 3: rather than just a person making statements that can't be
Speaker 3: fact checked because I know they're real and you can't
Speaker 3: because it's like, you know, call me crazy for putting
Speaker 3: it through a little bit of a bullshit meter. But
Speaker 3: I can't find anything at all that this woman just
Speaker 3: said to back up any of the claims.
Speaker 1: But sure, hey, I don't know. I mean, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: we'll try and reach out to her. She said that
Speaker 1: she's going on some shows. Maybe we'll try and see
Speaker 1: if we can.
Speaker 2: Get her one.
Speaker 1: You can ask her these questions yourself, because I think
Speaker 1: that this is going to be like a full on
Speaker 1: psychological fuck. I mean it, and it sounds like it.
Speaker 1: If what she's saying, imagine if what she's saying is true,
Speaker 1: what if she's what if she's actually being honest.
Speaker 2: About this, well, then she better have a lot of
Speaker 2: receipts to back the claims that she's making.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, Let's say that she has all
Speaker 1: of that. What are the implications of it?
Speaker 3: The implay locations would be that Epstein, who was known
Speaker 3: to frequent New York and Florida and his island, although
Speaker 3: I'm sure he traveled, you know whatever, also lived in Colorado,
Speaker 3: which we've never heard that from any source period, fathered twins,
Speaker 3: which he himself never had kids, and that's also understood
Speaker 3: and factual, unless maybe there's a whole lie and a
Speaker 3: whole that's what I'm saying. It's like, that's the same
Speaker 3: thing as like what if Elvis is Donald Trump. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: kind of a massive if on that, bro. Just because
Speaker 3: you find a video on it doesn't mean it's real life.
Speaker 1: Like I didn't say it was. I just said, imagine
Speaker 1: if that's all I said.
Speaker 3: Imagine it right, right, But I mean we're still talking
Speaker 3: about the realm of reality.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not impossible that this story is true.
Speaker 3: That from what I'm looking up, that sounds like an
Speaker 3: impossibility in a woman that's trying to like get a
Speaker 3: little bit of a claim to fame.
Speaker 1: So if you were trying to cover up this, let's
Speaker 1: say that what she is saying is true. Is it
Speaker 1: impossible to lie about your age?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Sure, it's not impossible. Yeah, But I mean especially somebody
Speaker 3: as well. That's like somebody I'm not saying it says
Speaker 3: a list is Brad Pitt. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: Shilabuff and Brad Pitt have started movies and all it's like, Okay,
Speaker 3: Brad Pitt has a secret twin that was all hidden
Speaker 3: in this and this, and it's like it's not like
Speaker 3: this is some seless actor that you may have seen.
Speaker 2: In a movie once or twice. Like the dude's been
Speaker 2: around for quite some time.
Speaker 3: His life is well documented, it's well talked about by
Speaker 3: not just himself, by like other sources, and it's you know,
Speaker 3: if you're gonna make a claim like that, why not
Speaker 3: make a claim for some sealss actor that fell off?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean that, Like no one cares
Speaker 3: enough about to do any kind of real searches on
Speaker 3: or something like that. And so the whole what if, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I have a weird feeling could be wrong, could be
Speaker 3: so wrong because if that thing is true, then who knows.
Speaker 3: But it's got a weird feeling that that's gonna go
Speaker 3: by the wayside. We're not gonna hear anything else about it,
Speaker 3: like probably.
Speaker 1: Ever, keep in mind we're talking about a Disney this
Speaker 1: he got his start in Disney.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so to bringing spears, Christineaguilera, Adam Levine, and none
Speaker 3: of them have these crazy claims. And those people did
Speaker 3: have connections to these crazy sex rings. So like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I I feel like you're fucking with me right now.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that this shit can't exist. I'm saying
Speaker 2: that that's kind of a crazy claim to make on
Speaker 2: somebody that can easily be searched on.
Speaker 1: It's that crazy to say that somebody that was brought
Speaker 1: up in the industry by Disney as a child could
Speaker 1: possibly have some mk ultra type fuckery going on here.
Speaker 3: No, I didn't say it's crazy for mk Ultr. I'm
Speaker 3: saying this chick claiming to be his twin sister. And oh,
Speaker 3: by the way, Epstein is both of our dads.
Speaker 1: Like, so you don't you don't believe that Disney would
Speaker 1: be doing something like that.
Speaker 3: Getting involved with Epstein and putting his children on the Like,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, it's nah, not exactly Disney. Again, Disney had
Speaker 3: connections with Epstein, I could see that for sure, But
Speaker 3: a child star that is Epstein's secret twin son, Like,
Speaker 3: that's a wild ass claim.
Speaker 2: Dude, I could be wrong. I'm not thought of it,
Speaker 2: were of all things here, but like it sounds very,
Speaker 2: very very incorrect.
Speaker 3: Yes, wasn't even Stevens his sister Wren. Weren't they supposed
Speaker 3: to be twins in that show?
Speaker 1: Or am I am I Trippin'?
Speaker 3: She was three years older than him as a matter
Speaker 3: of fact, And Christy Carlson Romano that's her name, has
Speaker 3: come forward about some things that happen with Disney. But
Speaker 3: she's even set herself that she never had any bad
Speaker 3: dealings with Disney. She had bad dealings with bad managers
Speaker 3: in Hollywood. That's why she actually ended up doing a
Speaker 3: nude scene in one movie and she regrets it to
Speaker 3: this day.
Speaker 2: And she's come forward about a lot of these things.
Speaker 3: But and I mean, yeah, there's other child stars from
Speaker 3: Disney that did get strung out on drugs and were
Speaker 3: involved in these crazy cults, and like yet, I'm not
Speaker 3: denying that that's real at all. I mean, all the
Speaker 3: Shia wasn't a part of these things. I get it,
Speaker 3: This is possible.
Speaker 1: All the Illuminati symbolism, the thirty three Club, everything that
Speaker 1: we've covered on behalf of Disney, and this is impossible
Speaker 1: whenever it's like connected to them.
Speaker 3: Possibly Once again, I'm not denying that Disney has been
Speaker 3: involved with colts and these clicks, child sex traffic.
Speaker 2: I'm not denying that.
Speaker 3: I'm saying that to make the claim that you are
Speaker 3: Shilah Buff's twin sister and that Jeffrey Epstein is really
Speaker 3: your father, that that's kind of a crazy fucking claim.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, it definitely is. I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: it's not crazy, but I don't know why. Boy wizard,
Speaker 1: what do you think about this whole situation? You buy it,
Speaker 1: you're throwing it away? I mean, what are what are
Speaker 1: your thoughts on this? You got to unmute yourself. There
Speaker 1: there you go.
Speaker 14: Uh, there is connections between fucking Epstein and Disney, Like
Speaker 14: they fucking chartered stops on the fucking island with their
Speaker 14: cruises starting in like nineteen ninety eight or.
Speaker 2: Some crazy shit.
Speaker 14: And then he also had a huge ass fucking compound
Speaker 14: in New Mexico where they found all the sorts of
Speaker 14: fucking machinery and fucking stuff too, like it to be
Speaker 14: able to artificially inseminate tens of thousands, like they think
Speaker 14: his planning. You know how, most of us have at
Speaker 14: least like one tiny little percent of uh what the
Speaker 14: fuck was his name, genghis Come.
Speaker 2: I mean, unless you got Asian descent, not so much,
Speaker 2: but I know what you mean for sure, Like for
Speaker 2: his time and age, he.
Speaker 14: Spread his seed farther than any other person. And supposedly
Speaker 14: epstem Epstein was trying to be on that ship and
Speaker 14: supposedly allegedly they found that type of shit out at
Speaker 14: that I think it was called Doro Ranch in New Mexico. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 14: everything he just said. I mean, it all sounds crazy
Speaker 14: no matter what.
Speaker 2: But those few things right there, there is allegedly connection there.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, right, and let's just think about it.
Speaker 1: The fact that Epstein Island is now a truth and
Speaker 1: everybody understands that. You know, that whole situation that sounded crazy,
Speaker 1: like it sounded asinine to say that, like an operation
Speaker 1: like that was what's going down for so many years
Speaker 1: and so many police hands were in involved in that.
Speaker 1: I mean, for Fox's sake, he had Bill Clinton in
Speaker 1: a blue dress and red high heels hanging over his fireplace.
Speaker 3: Right right, But that doesn't sound that crazy. Honestly, we
Speaker 3: knew for years that there was islands, and we even
Speaker 3: know still there are still islands and still places where
Speaker 3: this kind of shit goes down, like for sure.
Speaker 15: Okay, so don't you bring Jesus held question this, But no,
Speaker 15: like sixteen million asy men are directly.
Speaker 18: I was directly related to Jingis Khan.
Speaker 12: Yeah, oh that's a lot.
Speaker 18: But the I was just thinking how Disney and Epstein
Speaker 18: have a connection. Do you all remember.
Speaker 15: The Sweet Life of franchise set Life on Sweet Life
Speaker 15: of zach chosan swet Life on Deck?
Speaker 18: You know how they had a cruise with animals.
Speaker 17: A little won that And what if they actually what
Speaker 17: they got on the bus and they took them to
Speaker 17: it out?
Speaker 2: I guess is possible.
Speaker 3: And again, I'm not denying that Epstein had a connection
Speaker 3: to Disney at all. I'm saying that this is a
Speaker 3: rather bold claim.
Speaker 2: That's all.
Speaker 3: I feel like Jonathan and I are very different in this.
Speaker 3: You are way more willing to believe just things that
Speaker 3: you're presented with. I am way more willing to not
Speaker 3: believe things that I'm presented with. And I mean that's
Speaker 3: what makes the show what it is. You and I
Speaker 3: have very different viewpoints on a lot of things. We
Speaker 3: come from very different angles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but my angle on it is that I don't
Speaker 1: need it confirmed by major tabloids in order for me
Speaker 1: to believe it. You know, like we're always we're always
Speaker 1: questioning the news. We're always questioning all of these sources
Speaker 1: and everything, whether it's coming from the government, whether it's
Speaker 1: a CNN or a Fox News or you know, daily
Speaker 1: mail article. We're always questioning it, but for some reason,
Speaker 1: that's the only valid way that we can look at
Speaker 1: something crazy and confirm it. That's where my mind goes,
Speaker 1: I look, I love I don't know. Maybe it's more
Speaker 1: like an intuitive kind of feeling that I personally get
Speaker 1: whenever I see shit like that, where I'm just like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't think that she's necessarily bullshiting. I don't know her,
Speaker 1: so it's all, I mean, very limited information. I'm just
Speaker 1: giving her the benefit of the doubt, and we don't
Speaker 1: know jack shit about anything that is that's coming from
Speaker 1: the Epstein case, So I'm inclined to believe shit like
Speaker 1: that whenever it's pretending to Epstein, since we haven't heard
Speaker 1: anything that's really it. That's my mindset on it.
Speaker 3: She needs to have a lot more receipts than that,
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that that was the only thing
Speaker 3: she's posted. She may have a whole you know, social
Speaker 3: media page dedicated to this, and I don't know. I'm
Speaker 3: saying that, Yeah, for you to make crazy claims like that,
Speaker 3: you need to be able to show some receipts and
Speaker 3: back the claims up.
Speaker 1: So we'll see, Yeah, we'll see it's.
Speaker 3: Very possible as goes by the wayside, and it's just
Speaker 3: one of those Internet things that goes away forever. Maybe
Speaker 3: we'll start hearing more and more things about this in
Speaker 3: the upcoming weeks, Like, Yo, who fucking knows.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't shock me if it was true. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that I absolutely believe that it is true or
Speaker 1: that it isn't. I'm just saying it, like, if I
Speaker 1: heard that this is true, it would like I'd be like,
Speaker 1: of course we saw a little fairy flying or what?
Speaker 2: No, I got a mosquito flying in this bitch, and
Speaker 2: every time it comes into the light, I think I'm
Speaker 2: about to get it, but then it flies away into
Speaker 2: the darkness and my eyes are being I'm staring into
Speaker 2: the fucking green light here, so my eyes are not
Speaker 2: adjusting properly. But that bitch is gonna get got.
Speaker 1: Sam's getting a little antsy. Go ahead there a double
Speaker 1: hand raiser.
Speaker 6: We saw it to go back.
Speaker 18: Way back to the alien's dude. What do y'all think
Speaker 18: about the Alloi incident in all text Percy.
Speaker 2: I believe I've done some digging into it.
Speaker 3: It looks credible, and I also understand why they would
Speaker 3: try to cover it up as they would do. We
Speaker 3: do need to do an episode on it here soon.
Speaker 3: I got the notes that you sent me and I've
Speaker 3: done some more digging into it. We have had a
Speaker 3: lot of guests here lately, so we haven't had a
Speaker 3: lot of time to like do our own real independent
Speaker 3: studies on some shit. But yeah, the Aurora, Texas alien incident,
Speaker 3: we're going to do an episode on.
Speaker 15: I actually did an episode on it on my podcast,
Speaker 15: but I'm gonna after we do that one because I
Speaker 15: accidentally deleted it when I was trying to dull move stuff.
Speaker 18: I'm a dumb ass when it comes to technology, and
Speaker 18: I lost like all eleven episodes before this one.
Speaker 6: So that's why it's lee. But that's quiet.
Speaker 20: I'm a double But I actually plan on getting even
Speaker 20: more notes and everything at all.
Speaker 18: I lost a lot of my speaky notes. I need
Speaker 18: to investment to a better channel.
Speaker 2: It's all good.
Speaker 3: You know you'll make those mistakes when you just start out, bro,
Speaker 3: It's all good anyway, Love y'all, Love you brother.
Speaker 2: All right. We have over one hundred messages we still
Speaker 2: have not gotten to because we keep getting on these
Speaker 2: weird tingents about stuff.
Speaker 1: Why boy Wizard said bro metal is my fave? What
Speaker 1: did you say? The band was Alex and it was Avenged?
Speaker 1: What was again?
Speaker 2: Let me go back?
Speaker 1: Never Avenged, never Avenged? Yeah, yeah, yeah, there we go.
Speaker 2: Let's see T shirts and hoodies? Got you? I saw
Speaker 2: hats earlier as well, so hell yeah? Moving on heavy
Speaker 2: metal for life? Absolutely agree? Rose Yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 3: I'm also a pretty solid like metal head, not as
Speaker 3: much as I used to be, but yeah, I still
Speaker 3: get down with the shit.
Speaker 2: Let's see here, Rose Chaos, what's up? Hey?
Speaker 3: Quick question? When can we buy some coult merch literally
Speaker 3: what we were talking about earlier here? Soon y'all, Soon
Speaker 3: there will be an online store with all of our things,
Speaker 3: all of our stuff.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be great.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be fucking legit, and we're not gonna put
Speaker 3: it up if it's not shit, if it's not great,
Speaker 3: like if it's gonna be one of those things where
Speaker 3: the logo is gonna fucking peel off after you wash
Speaker 3: it three or four times, and we're not even playing
Speaker 3: with it, like we're gonna do this the right way. Ah,
Speaker 3: got that bitch, ass, Got that bitch ass got that mosquito? Okay, anyway, Uh,
Speaker 3: let's see here. Pathfinder is actually better. I thought that
Speaker 3: was about Hargie.
Speaker 2: It might be of A. I don't know what that
Speaker 2: was supposed to be, honestly, Pathfinder?
Speaker 6: Is that A?
Speaker 2: Is that a band? I don't know. AI has confirmed
Speaker 2: the Antarctic ozone hole is healing and could be fully
Speaker 2: healed by twenty sixty six. Oh Mi t not ai,
Speaker 2: excuse me.
Speaker 3: MIT has confirmed that the hole in the ozone is
Speaker 3: repairing itself. Well, you know, the Earth being a living entity,
Speaker 3: it makes sense that she would be able to heal herself.
Speaker 9: I like that.
Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, let's see y'all been jamming that? Ya?
Speaker 3: No, no, I have not been listening to Kanye here lately.
Speaker 3: I heard the song about Hitler is actually a bop.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I haven't listened to it yet, but
Speaker 2: we've been hearing that it's a it's a headbanger, so
Speaker 2: we might need to check it out one of these days.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Sam says I believe they killed Anthony bourdaint On one
Speaker 3: hundred percent. Sam also says never seen Game of Throats.
Speaker 3: It's worth the watch, It's worth the watch. To get into,
Speaker 3: but you will get pissed off along the way. Don't
Speaker 3: get attached to any like literally any character at all,
Speaker 3: even if you think like this is the main character
Speaker 3: energy over here. No way, Yo, You're like three episodes
Speaker 3: away from him dying a horrible death.
Speaker 2: Like, just don't. Don't get attached to nobody. But that's
Speaker 2: you know, that's how the way life works.
Speaker 12: So it's a lot like The Last Kingdom.
Speaker 3: I would say there are parts of it that make
Speaker 3: it better than Last Kingdom and parts of it that
Speaker 3: make Last Kingdom way more better. I mean, Last Kingdom's
Speaker 3: also kind of based in some historical facts, not all
Speaker 3: of it, but some of it.
Speaker 12: Well, there was an actual uh uh.
Speaker 2: Was real and Oughtred was I think based off a
Speaker 2: real person, but it wasn't you know, the guy.
Speaker 18: Who actually voted, he traced his line to it, nasal person.
Speaker 18: By all lead based off of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean I get it. I'm I'm not
Speaker 3: saying it's Yeah. Game of Thrones is a lot it's fantasy,
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, it's not supposed to be based
Speaker 3: in history. Although the writer did take a lot of
Speaker 3: notes from historical groups and put that towards certain tribes
Speaker 3: and certain armies and certain things, and you'll see it.
Speaker 3: You'll see it without or throughout excuse me, let's see.
Speaker 3: Damn just just spoiled whole goddamn show.
Speaker 2: No you didn't. Now it's You're fine.
Speaker 3: I'm not happy with Fallout TV show. I've heard a
Speaker 3: lot of people say the same thing.
Speaker 2: Sam. Let's see.
Speaker 3: Alex says I would kill the gorilla after drinking a
Speaker 3: whole case of bush Light apple. Bush Light came out
Speaker 3: with an apple flavor. That might be yep, okay, that
Speaker 3: is some of the most white trash I've ever heard of.
Speaker 2: But I mean, hey, somebody's got to do it, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. But that was also because I'm
Speaker 2: going to use a gun. Yeah, there you go. Fair enough.
Speaker 3: Matthew, there you go. You saw about his podcast with Janet.
Speaker 3: Y know, we are going to get with Matthew to
Speaker 3: make that show happen here soon.
Speaker 2: Let's see.
Speaker 3: God is Love says it only sucks while you're quitting.
Speaker 3: Once you get used to it's sober, It's good. I
Speaker 3: and I am as addict alcoholic pothead as it gets,
Speaker 3: you know. I feel that I feel that things get
Speaker 3: better with time. Though, you learn how to live with
Speaker 3: the new status of normal. You know, it's just it's
Speaker 3: a part of it. Lab ooh Raven shared this and
Speaker 3: I do plan on talking about this when tomorrow night
Speaker 3: on the Cajun Night as well for the recording by
Speaker 3: not a Shameless Plug. But if y'all want to be
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Speaker 3: Patreon for Wednesday nights at nine pm. If you want
Speaker 3: to go to Jonathan's Metalive Wednesday nights nine pm, go
Speaker 3: check out Metamisteries on Patreon. But Jonathan, have you heard
Speaker 3: about this? A composer who is still making music after
Speaker 3: his death?
Speaker 22: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they like tested his brain, so.
Speaker 3: Lab grown brain of a deceased composer creates new music
Speaker 3: three years after his death.
Speaker 2: Basically through gene sequencing.
Speaker 3: They were able to create brain gray matter from his
Speaker 3: brain and he is still his brain. The chemicals at
Speaker 3: least are still producing music right now.
Speaker 2: And it is pretty wild. This is borderline attempting to
Speaker 2: go into the realm of a version of immortality.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's it's probably more so just the
Speaker 1: the ego version of that person or whatever you know,
Speaker 1: is imprinted on the brain.
Speaker 2: Or whatever.
Speaker 1: But I will say Blackmuir called this out. Blackmuir definitely
Speaker 1: called this scenario out. They had a it was the
Speaker 1: Miley Cyrus episode where basically like her manager, which is
Speaker 1: like her sister, her aunt or something like that ends
Speaker 1: up like because Miley's like trying to you know, not
Speaker 1: do the music and she doesn't like that kind of
Speaker 1: pop music or whatever anymore. So she's you know, thinking
Speaker 1: about rebelling and throwing her her aunt under the bus
Speaker 1: and everything. So but before Miley's able to throw her
Speaker 1: aunt under the bus, they give her some kind of
Speaker 1: poison and throws her into a coma, and they're creating
Speaker 1: fucking new records off of Miley Cyrus's brain waves, and
Speaker 1: they're like trying to spend it, like, even while she's
Speaker 1: in a coma, she's coming up with new music for
Speaker 1: her fans. Yeah, isn't that crazy? Fucking Black Mirror called
Speaker 1: that one out.
Speaker 2: That's horrible.
Speaker 3: Why would anybody want to listen to Miley Cyrus's music,
Speaker 3: let alone after she's in a coma.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not Miley Cyrus in the show. It's
Speaker 1: Miley Cyrus the actor portraying, not Miley. I mean it's
Speaker 1: portraying like poppy type of Miley uh, you know, Hannah
Speaker 1: Montana kind of music at first, but then she ends
Speaker 1: up like playing like some rock or some hard like
Speaker 1: metal type of music. And that's I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't want to give it away.
Speaker 3: But if Taylor Swift doing something like that, once she dies,
Speaker 3: they're going to try to do the same shit with
Speaker 3: her brain now that they know it's possible to do absolutely.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, all the actors are already selling like all
Speaker 1: their likeness to these AI machines, Like basically it allows
Speaker 1: like they're they're basically signing some kind of contract that says,
Speaker 1: even after you die, even after I die, you can
Speaker 1: still make movies with me via a I Uh, Bruce
Speaker 1: Willis did it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bruce Willis also he's he is not doing good
Speaker 3: these days, that's why he signed. Don't even know if
Speaker 3: he was coherent enough to sign that contract to say that,
Speaker 3: to be honest.
Speaker 1: With you, probably not. The chink eyed motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Family trying to cash in on their dad's royalty even
Speaker 3: after he's dead.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Probably chink eyed motherfucker Go right ahead, sir, Oh Jesus Sam.
Speaker 16: Yeah, so.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I learned that I named it that I can
Speaker 10: say it, God damn it, and I give you the passing.
Speaker 17: All I can think of is this is literally fucking
Speaker 17: necromansky guy, And what does the Bible say, do not
Speaker 17: fuck with.
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily necromancy because you're not calling on well,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like that's that's the question that.
Speaker 12: We animated a dead guy he's buying and have him.
Speaker 12: So that's pretty much fucking neckluman.
Speaker 17: I guess the.
Speaker 2: Question music would therefore be considered demonic.
Speaker 1: Isn't it all demonic anyway?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 2: No, there's Christian music, there's spiritual music, there's all these things.
Speaker 3: But like, this is music made from a dead guy,
Speaker 3: so literally from the other side, this music is being made.
Speaker 2: I wonder what the like harmonic harmonic harmonic resonance is
Speaker 2: of this.
Speaker 3: Is it a positive thing that can like heal cells
Speaker 3: or is it something that will like give people cancer
Speaker 3: they listen to it too long? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It's all electronics and vibrations, that's all matter is. I'm
Speaker 3: wondering what these vibrations are putting out.
Speaker 1: Bro brother, think about this for a second. I want
Speaker 1: you to use that ginormous brain that you have. And
Speaker 1: I want you to try and piece two and two
Speaker 1: together here about how crazy of an idea of that
Speaker 1: even being possible is. So, whenever you die, you don't
Speaker 1: take your body with you. You are not your body.
Speaker 1: You are renting this motherfucker. That means whenever you die,
Speaker 1: you jump out of that body. You're not in there anymore.
Speaker 1: So what would be still going on is the programming
Speaker 1: of how your brain used to work.
Speaker 2: It's not you, I agree, this is not the man's
Speaker 2: soul that is making this music. I'm agreeing with you.
Speaker 1: You're picking up on the subconscious things that are that
Speaker 1: were programmed. We're all programmed like that. That's really the
Speaker 1: way that it is.
Speaker 22: Like.
Speaker 1: We are all programmed in one way or another, and
Speaker 1: we all program our own brains depending on what we
Speaker 1: like and what we don't like, what we're good at,
Speaker 1: what we're terrible at, all the different kind of characteristics
Speaker 1: and stuff. But if they are tapping into the brain,
Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with the entity that left
Speaker 1: the body after death.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: But it's not like he's uh or the brain, right,
Speaker 3: It's not like the brain matter is regurgitating shit. That
Speaker 3: he wrote while he was alive. It's completely new music.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but think about it like this. How many
Speaker 1: composers and artists and everything out there. Dude, they make
Speaker 1: like a thousand fucking songs and they only released ten.
Speaker 1: You know, it could just be some shit that he
Speaker 1: never released that he was always thinking about. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's so. It's not like new thought is not
Speaker 1: going to occur.
Speaker 3: I love that this is the way this goes. So
Speaker 3: you think that that is complete bullshit. But the Shila
Speaker 3: Above twin sister situation is like, that's not crazy, but
Speaker 3: this is crazy.
Speaker 1: That Shila Above twin sister situation is far more likely
Speaker 1: than what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Wait wait, hold on, bro.
Speaker 3: We're talking about them using chemical and electricity to make
Speaker 3: the brain matter fire off to let a musical composer
Speaker 3: continue making music.
Speaker 2: That's something that science is doing currently.
Speaker 3: That's not even like a hypothetical, it's successfully being done currently.
Speaker 3: That sounds less likely to you than this random TikTok
Speaker 3: chick saying that she's Jeffrey Epstein's long lost daughter and
Speaker 3: simultaneously Shia Above's twin sister.
Speaker 1: A brain cannot think without a soul an entity, a
Speaker 1: spirit or whatever that is attached to it, it is
Speaker 1: not possible. It can regurgitate the things that it has
Speaker 1: always thought about, but you're not going to get anything new, no.
Speaker 2: So so a clone, for instance, that doesn't have a soul,
Speaker 2: has a functioning brain that doesn't it can't do things.
Speaker 1: So a clone is going A clone is just going
Speaker 1: to be running off of the subconscious programming that that
Speaker 1: person always had. But it's never going to be anything new,
Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2: A clone isn't a computer.
Speaker 10: What do you?
Speaker 16: What do you?
Speaker 2: What do you? What do you like?
Speaker 1: What's your point?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 3: A clone couldn't like create a painting, just some type
Speaker 3: of art that has never been done before.
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be something.
Speaker 3: It's like something to be had hung up in an
Speaker 3: art exhibit somewhere. It's not like he's gonna be the
Speaker 3: new Jackson Pollock by any fucking means gonna also, But
Speaker 3: a clone, give it thirty years of life, will create
Speaker 3: some sort of art. Hypothetically, you're saying that all that
Speaker 3: would be would be some sort of a pre programmed
Speaker 3: thing that was put into the clone at birth kind
Speaker 3: of thing.
Speaker 1: All right, So you've looked into like brains and stuff,
Speaker 1: and like, in order to have a thought, you need
Speaker 1: to have all the neutrons and all the things firing
Speaker 1: all at the same time. It's the reason why, like
Speaker 1: with the soul, right, none of that has to do
Speaker 1: with the soul. But even think about it, once a
Speaker 1: body leave or once a whatever we are, the spirit,
Speaker 1: the soul, the spark, whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 1: whenever we leave, there is not going to be any
Speaker 1: neuronal neuronal firing, not anything new. I don't understand how
Speaker 1: how would you First of all, you would have to
Speaker 1: keep the brain going, like they say that even if
Speaker 1: your brain, like if you go brain dead, there's no
Speaker 1: coming back from that.
Speaker 2: This that's what I'm saying. They are doing that.
Speaker 3: They took a were dead brain and they reanimated it
Speaker 3: and they're reputting like electricity into it to make it
Speaker 3: fire off.
Speaker 2: And that's it's creating this music.
Speaker 3: It's not like this guy was dead. It's not like
Speaker 3: they like hailed his brain and kept it in the
Speaker 3: thing of the look like. No, they have reanimated a portion,
Speaker 3: not the entirety.
Speaker 1: The portion that was already there. It's my I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that you can't pull from what was always there.
Speaker 1: I believe that you probably can. I mean, that's what
Speaker 1: you know, the gray matter and dark matter, whatever the
Speaker 1: fuck's going on in our brain wherever, wherever consciousness is housed,
Speaker 1: there's probably gonna leave by leave behind some kind of remnants,
Speaker 1: some kind of memory, some kind of uh, you know,
Speaker 1: neuro action pathways or whatever. I'm not saying that's not possible.
Speaker 1: I believe that. But what I'm saying is is that
Speaker 1: that is always just gonna be running off of the program.
Speaker 1: If there was gonna be a clone, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: running off of the prior programming that that person already had.
Speaker 1: It's never going to be able to generate anything new
Speaker 1: that the person that used to have that brain would
Speaker 1: be able to continue with, is my point.
Speaker 2: And you're backing this with what.
Speaker 1: Common sense?
Speaker 3: Common sense? So you're saying that the soul is what
Speaker 3: gives people creativity.
Speaker 1: You need a soul to be creative in the first place.
Speaker 1: You need a soul to have thought.
Speaker 2: I mean, no, you don't need a soul to have thought.
Speaker 1: What soullless entity has thought?
Speaker 2: How about animals?
Speaker 3: Well, I want to say that because it's possible that
Speaker 3: they have a soul, but it's also possible that they
Speaker 3: don't have a soul. Absolutely you could also I mean
Speaker 3: maybe maybe. But then that's the other thing. What makes
Speaker 3: the soul? Is it consciousness or is it life?
Speaker 1: It would have to I mean, and this is where
Speaker 1: we're going to get a difference of opinion. I think
Speaker 1: that every living thing has some sort of consciousness to it.
Speaker 2: But I don't believe that consciousness is inherent to a soul.
Speaker 1: Okay, So what soulless with a conscious is able to
Speaker 1: develop a a an original thought, like.
Speaker 2: You can teach an elephant and a monkey how to
Speaker 2: paint a picture.
Speaker 1: You know, you conscious.
Speaker 12: That you know?
Speaker 1: Okay, now we're getting into like what we believe if
Speaker 1: if certain animals have consciousness or souls like so, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a difference.
Speaker 2: It's not necessarily a soul, though.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you'd make the distinguishment.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's it's it's definitely a deep philosophical question.
Speaker 1: On that one, because there's never like I mean, there's
Speaker 1: no way to prove that we have a soul. There's
Speaker 1: no way to prove scientifically that there is a consciousness
Speaker 1: or a soul anyway.
Speaker 2: Right, Like, it's not even proven that we have a soul.
Speaker 3: Dude, we've talked about that whenever the body dies, it
Speaker 3: gets a few ounces lighter at the moment of death,
Speaker 3: and they've done all the studies on that.
Speaker 2: I don't believe that that's the same thing for animals.
Speaker 1: Who's to say that that's the soul that's leaving. It
Speaker 1: could just be the breath that's leaving the body. Scientific
Speaker 1: air doesn't weigh more.
Speaker 3: You put a body on a scale, it dies in
Speaker 3: the last breath escapes, it doesn't get heavier because the
Speaker 3: oxygen and in the lungs.
Speaker 1: Dude, Yeah, well that's not a commonly accepted even thing,
Speaker 1: that the bodies get lighter. That's that's a fringe kind
Speaker 1: of topic.
Speaker 2: No, we did.
Speaker 3: We talked about that on episodes. We've pulled it up.
Speaker 3: That's not a fringe topic. That's understood research it.
Speaker 1: I want to see a scientific journal that absolutely knows
Speaker 1: that to be a fact and not just a fringe topic.
Speaker 1: Like if this is something that is absolutely understood that
Speaker 1: consciousness weighs something and whenever it leaves the body, I
Speaker 1: believe that.
Speaker 2: And say consciousness I said soul. There's a difference.
Speaker 1: But why would soul even have a weight to it?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not the guy who created it all.
Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense to me either.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like, in order for something to
Speaker 1: lose weight, it would have to secrete some kind of
Speaker 1: material source. And are we saying that the soul is
Speaker 1: some kind of material source?
Speaker 2: Now, think of it more like plasma.
Speaker 1: Okay, Anyway that all I'm trying to say is is
Speaker 1: that all that all that's going to be going on
Speaker 1: that they're going to be able to get from that
Speaker 1: brain or whatever, is just going to be their own
Speaker 1: subconscious programming. I don't think that there's any way that
Speaker 1: you're going to be able to create anything new that
Speaker 1: that person didn't already prior think, like think you know beforehand.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess that's possible.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, it's not like the brain
Speaker 3: houses every single thought that the guy has ever thought
Speaker 3: in his life, Like we forget more than we ever remember.
Speaker 1: Oh sure, yeah, we have sixty thousand thoughts in the day,
Speaker 1: and obviously you're not going to get every single You're
Speaker 1: not going to ever say every single thought that you
Speaker 1: ever have. So it's going to be new to me
Speaker 1: and you if we're talking about some stranger that we
Speaker 1: only know you know, twenty songs from of course, but
Speaker 1: right to him is what I'm saying. There's not going
Speaker 1: to be any new generation according to his consciousness.
Speaker 3: But it's also not one song that's been produced, their
Speaker 3: songs a plural that it is still currently coming up with. Man,
Speaker 3: So you're telling me he just happened to have all
Speaker 3: these things just like store into the memory bank, and
Speaker 3: that's what's being played now.
Speaker 1: That has to be correct, bro, Come on, like, you.
Speaker 6: Guys need to read the article.
Speaker 24: It's it tells you exactly what like in the article,
Speaker 24: it tells you exactly what it's doing with it.
Speaker 6: Sorry to interrupt you, begause, I'm you guys.
Speaker 24: Need to read the article because then they'll tell you
Speaker 24: it's actually creating sound from It's basically like the they
Speaker 24: created little brains out of his white blood cells like
Speaker 24: that turned into stem cells, and that way they created
Speaker 24: these little brains and they have them in this sculpture
Speaker 24: in this room that has these twenty brass plates, and
Speaker 24: these inside the brass plates, they have these transcenders that
Speaker 24: pretty much are picking up a neurolink and like as
Speaker 24: it's watching people and like interacting with the environment, is
Speaker 24: creating sounds on its own. It's actually like creating its
Speaker 24: own music via interaction with these tiny little brains. So
Speaker 24: like it's not that he's composing to something, it's that
Speaker 24: these are actually creating its own music by interacting with
Speaker 24: the energy and stuff around it. So the I did
Speaker 24: type in the article and the thing, but there's a
Speaker 24: couple of them that you can pull up and they're
Speaker 24: they're actually really interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm tired of looking at it. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: all right, here we go. Let's let's dive into this
Speaker 1: because and I'm not gonna sit here and say that
Speaker 1: I know these things to be a fact.
Speaker 2: That's just what.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine a way for this to work. But
Speaker 1: it says, uh, what website is this?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 2: God, Forbes?
Speaker 1: Forbes? Okay, so it says four years after he died,
Speaker 1: a composer's lab lab grown brain drops new music. So
Speaker 1: it says, legendary avant garde come Alvin Lucier. Oh, that's
Speaker 1: an interesting name, died in twenty twenty one. That's funny, right,
Speaker 1: they're bringing him back with their last name. Like that,
Speaker 1: just add an f to that bad boy, Flucier Lucier.
Speaker 2: Oh it's a fringe name. Oh you're saying Lucifer. Oh, Well,
Speaker 2: like Sam said, fucking necromancy dude.
Speaker 1: But that hasn't stopped him from making new music. Credit
Speaker 1: an artificial brain grown from his own cells that emits
Speaker 1: sound triggering electrical signals. This in vitro structure lives at
Speaker 1: the Art Gallery of Western Australia in Perth. There through
Speaker 1: August third, visitors can wander through Revivification, an immersive installation
Speaker 1: that merges sound and biotechnology to imagine a compelling way
Speaker 1: creatively could potentially live long after artists die. If you're
Speaker 1: picturing a Frank and Lucier rising from an operating table
Speaker 1: to conduct the symphony, science isn't there yet, at least
Speaker 1: not publicly. The provocative installation features tiny three D organoids
Speaker 1: see and displayed on a raised pedestal that resemble a
Speaker 1: developing human brain. Their neural activity sends signals that activate
Speaker 1: electro mechanical mallets to strike twenty curved wall mounted brass plates,
Speaker 1: sending ambient sound rippling through the gallery in real time.
Speaker 1: There's a picture of it there Wow. Lucier, who taught
Speaker 1: at Wesleyan University in Connecticut for decades, was himself intrigued
Speaker 1: with the physics of sound, and before he died at ninety,
Speaker 1: played an active role in imagining various ways his creative
Speaker 1: spirit could outlive his physical body. The goal of revivoc
Speaker 1: Revivification goes beyond simply preserving Alvin Lucier's music or creating
Speaker 1: a tribute to his work. It says our project aims
Speaker 1: to fundamentally reimagine artistic immortality by creating a living extension
Speaker 1: of Lucier's creative essence. The installation, five years in the making,
Speaker 1: poses intriggering questions. Can creativity exist outside of the body?
Speaker 1: Does creativity retain our uniqueness after we're gone? Our official
Speaker 1: intelligence and holograms are already bringing dead artists back to life,
Speaker 1: but Revivification veers into the realm of biological intelligence to
Speaker 1: explore a new path for extending artistic legacy through living
Speaker 1: matter that functions as a surrogate performer. This living entity
Speaker 1: doesn't merely recreate Lucier's past compositions, but continues his artistic
Speaker 1: journey through its own biological agency. It responds to its environment,
Speaker 1: adapts over time, and generates new compositions that couldn't have
Speaker 1: been predicted by Lucier himself or by us. Okay. Lucier
Speaker 1: was one of the first artists to use brain waves
Speaker 1: to compose and perform music for his nineteen sixty five
Speaker 1: piece Music for Solo Performer, and he revealed and creating
Speaker 1: unpredictable soundscapes from everyday objects. Performers of his nineteen seventy
Speaker 1: seven Opera with Objects, for example, tap two pencils together
Speaker 1: while touching them to various things a matchbox, a jar,
Speaker 1: a plate to produce a surprisingly shape shifting acoustic experience.
Speaker 1: So let's get over to the good. Okay. So, given
Speaker 1: Lucier's penchant for the unorthodox, it's no wonder revivification enthralled him.
Speaker 1: So he stayed engaged in the details on zoom calls
Speaker 1: with the artists until nearly the end of his life.
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, when he was eighty nine and growing
Speaker 1: increasingly frail, he donated blood to the effort. The artists
Speaker 1: commissioned Harvard Medical School researchers to reprogram Lucier's white blood
Speaker 1: cells into stem cells capable of differentiating into various types
Speaker 1: of specialized cells. Then, together with the University of Western
Speaker 1: Australia neuroscientist Stuart Hodgetts, they grew neuronal structures atop a
Speaker 1: mesh of electrodes that both stimulate them and capture their signals. Notably,
Speaker 1: the organoids don't just produce sound, they receive it. Ben Ari,
Speaker 1: Thompson and Gingold created a closed loop system where microphones
Speaker 1: in the gallery capture ambient audio, including human voices and
Speaker 1: the harmonics of hammer against brass, and feed them back
Speaker 1: into the mini brain. The result is, in essence, a
Speaker 1: dynamic sonic conversation shaped by the interaction between live humans
Speaker 1: and the lingering essence of a dead one. It says,
Speaker 1: by being in the space, visitors to the installation are
Speaker 1: influencing both the sound that others here there and the
Speaker 1: types of stimulation sent back into the organoid. It's weird
Speaker 1: to just call it an organoid.
Speaker 2: Can now't know what else you'd call it. It's not
Speaker 2: an entire brain, it's like a portion of it.
Speaker 1: So can cellular blobs really be creative? The experiment launches
Speaker 1: as AI permeates creative fields. Some artists celebrate its potential
Speaker 1: to steer their work in exciting new directions, while others
Speaker 1: fearing it will impact their livelihoods and possibly the very
Speaker 1: nature of creativity. So where do white blobs fit into
Speaker 1: the debate about artists bounds. They clearly lack consciousness, something
Speaker 1: many would consider essential to creativity.
Speaker 2: That was my point.
Speaker 3: But it's still creating new things without consciousness. That's what
Speaker 3: the entire article has been saying this whole time.
Speaker 1: Creatively, creativity really has to have a conscious element to it,
Speaker 1: and I don't think this particular piece of art is conscious,
Speaker 1: said a cognitive neuroscientist at the University of San Francisco
Speaker 1: who studies creativity. Those cells have no intention. Still, it's
Speaker 1: easy to imagine a day when they might, especially with
Speaker 1: a new season of dark satirical series Black Mirror. Heel
Speaker 1: to here to fill our minds with alarming scenarios of
Speaker 1: technologies unanticipated consequences. So that's kind of right.
Speaker 2: No, No, I agree creativity and that consciousness all that.
Speaker 3: This is not a conscious being, but it is still
Speaker 3: creating new sounds that even the guy himself couldn't have
Speaker 3: made up.
Speaker 2: That's what it literally opened up with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it says the cells have no intention.
Speaker 2: They don't.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. It's not the composer himself. It's
Speaker 3: not his memory bank making these sounds. That's what I
Speaker 3: was saying this entire time.
Speaker 2: It's new.
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's just gonna be agree to disagree.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's real.
Speaker 16: Bro.
Speaker 1: No, I read what they're trying to say, and there's
Speaker 1: still a lot of studies to be done.
Speaker 3: So wait, do you believe that AI is incapable of
Speaker 3: having creativity on its own?
Speaker 1: I think that without us, AI doesn't exist. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't think that's a crazy.
Speaker 2: Hate it, but it's going to get to a point
Speaker 2: where it's gonna do its own thing regardless of what
Speaker 2: we wanted to do.
Speaker 1: Uh not without a nudge. You got to write things
Speaker 1: into code like these things. AI is not a sentient
Speaker 1: kind of thing. I mean, I know we've kind of
Speaker 1: gone over it, but that could have just been some
Speaker 1: whack jobs who got a little bit too involved in
Speaker 1: the in the coding of the system and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But as far as no, I don't believe this.
Speaker 3: It's crazy where you draw your lines, dude, And I'm
Speaker 3: not talking shit.
Speaker 1: Well, no, because I love the psychological kind of stuff, dude,
Speaker 1: Like you know, like I look into this kind of
Speaker 1: stuff like for fun on a daily basis, as far
Speaker 1: as like what the mind is capable of doing and
Speaker 1: how we are separate from the mind, And I could
Speaker 1: understand about how the mind would be able to continue
Speaker 1: carrying on. But it's going to be running off of
Speaker 1: the programming that had already had. That's my point that
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2: It just said that that's not what it's doing.
Speaker 3: That's how can you know they hooked it up to electrodes,
Speaker 3: like it's these transfers a whole thing. Scientifically, this is
Speaker 3: not that composer's brain remembering something that he wants thoughts,
Speaker 3: how would they know that happening? How would they even
Speaker 3: know this responding? It is responding to the environment around it,
Speaker 3: and that's what's making the sound. It is completely new.
Speaker 1: White Boy Wizard, go ahead, sir.
Speaker 14: No, sorry, I was trying to type of reply to zombie.
Speaker 14: I was just thinking, like talking about, you know, whether
Speaker 14: it's new brain matter or if they had saved it
Speaker 14: from before or whatever.
Speaker 2: Like the only thing I just can't help like thinking
Speaker 2: even if that.
Speaker 14: Dude's soul, like there still has to be some sort
Speaker 14: of connection there at some sort of level, dude, Like,
Speaker 14: I don't know, maybe.
Speaker 3: It's white blood cells that they turned into stem cells
Speaker 3: that they turned into brain cells. So it wasn't like
Speaker 3: an actual portion of the brain at all.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, and I missed that point.
Speaker 1: It was well it was still I mean, it's still
Speaker 1: his like, it's still his blood.
Speaker 2: It's his DNA.
Speaker 1: So so now you're saying that blood So now you're
Speaker 1: saying that blood can think on its own.
Speaker 3: No, I am saying that they turned white blood cells
Speaker 3: into stem cells, into brain cells, and that is what
Speaker 3: is thinking on its own. Yes, but it all came
Speaker 3: from the source of blood. Yeah, but that's not currently
Speaker 3: blood cells that are doing this. It's brain matter.
Speaker 1: But that's what it came from. It came from blood.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so that something else.
Speaker 1: So now you're not even talking about him then, because
Speaker 1: it's become so evolved and so injected with all these
Speaker 1: other scientific things, that is not him anymore.
Speaker 2: It's still his DNA. So his DNA, his DNA can
Speaker 2: not thinking these things. He's dead. He's been dead for.
Speaker 1: Three years, so his DNA can, Uh, do you believe
Speaker 1: that DNA can remember your thoughts.
Speaker 2: You are the only one that thinks that what's happening
Speaker 2: is a memory. Dog.
Speaker 1: Let's take it a step farther. You think that DNA,
Speaker 1: on its own, dead stone cold dead for the past
Speaker 1: three years, is able to have a thought DNA.
Speaker 3: No, No, that's what you turn it to when you
Speaker 3: turn it to brain matter, which is made to think
Speaker 3: and respond to things. And that's what's happening now, Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's it's not the composer himself, and it's not
Speaker 3: him remembering something he never put pin to paper and
Speaker 3: wrote down.
Speaker 2: It is brain mata. There's responding to things around it
Speaker 2: to create new sounds. That's what this is. This is
Speaker 2: like breaking technology here.
Speaker 1: Okay, but it makes me wonder now there has to
Speaker 1: be some kind of comparison here, because if you're saying
Speaker 1: that this DNA sample that they turned into an organoid
Speaker 1: and turned into a fucking brain that's composing new types
Speaker 1: of music, I need to know what can you compare it?
Speaker 1: What can you compare it against?
Speaker 2: Can you just take anything that's ever been done before?
Speaker 2: We there's nothing to compare it.
Speaker 1: Again, Yes, I'm aware, but what I'm saying is is
Speaker 1: that the only way to be able to determine that
Speaker 1: that's actually what's going on is to compare it up
Speaker 1: against something else you if you took me that is
Speaker 1: not musically inclined at all, I can't. I can't play
Speaker 1: any instrument out there outside of a recorder. You know,
Speaker 1: one song on that Bad Boy. But I if you
Speaker 1: were to take my DNA, transform it into a brain
Speaker 1: matter and have it be able to to to read
Speaker 1: the neronal codes, and if it gives off some kind
Speaker 1: of music, what does that tell you?
Speaker 3: I don't know what you're like looking for on this one.
Speaker 3: It tells me that your brain is making music.
Speaker 1: How can it make music? It's never done it?
Speaker 2: Okay, and so therefore it's not a memory of what
Speaker 2: you did during your life.
Speaker 8: Bro.
Speaker 2: Again, that's not what's happening.
Speaker 1: I mean even I'm going beyond that. What I'm saying
Speaker 1: is is that me not musically inclined, don't know how
Speaker 1: to play any instruments. If you were able to do
Speaker 1: this the same exact thing, and you would get the
Speaker 1: same exact results, you're not taking if you would get
Speaker 1: the same exact results, hypothetically speaking, because there's nothing to
Speaker 1: compare this against. But if you just would.
Speaker 3: And you got the same exact results that you're getting
Speaker 3: from this composer, then it's not coming from the composer.
Speaker 2: Okay, And I would agree with that.
Speaker 3: And like I said, this is very new, hasn't been
Speaker 3: done before. I'm sure they're gonna try to do this
Speaker 3: more in the future. But this guy himself, like they said,
Speaker 3: even with into this type of music making while he
Speaker 3: was alive. He looked his brain up to like electrodes
Speaker 3: to create sound off of it before, So it was like,
Speaker 3: this is the thing that he was really excited about
Speaker 3: before he died. And I'm not saying that every single
Speaker 3: human that dies is going to be able to make
Speaker 3: music once they die, once it's over, I don't know,
Speaker 3: but this is still crazy that they're able to reanimate
Speaker 3: cells to create music from a dude after he's dead.
Speaker 1: To steal man your thoughts, I will throw this out
Speaker 1: there because I feel like there needs to be this
Speaker 1: kind of battle for this kind of conversation. We can't
Speaker 1: just go believing this and just taking in a face value.
Speaker 3: Like it or they above story. We cannot just take
Speaker 3: that and believe it because that's yes, absolutely we need
Speaker 3: the stark differences. But fuck me, I forgot what I
Speaker 3: was gonna say. Now there's gonna be something really good.
Speaker 1: That I oh, that's right. So to steal man your
Speaker 1: side here, what I'll say is is that I know
Speaker 1: that there's like a lot of gurus and you know,
Speaker 1: spiritual masters out there that will say if you repeat
Speaker 1: this mantra in your mind whenever you go to meditate,
Speaker 1: if you say, I am not the body, I am
Speaker 1: not even the mind. And that used to be something
Speaker 1: that really tricked me out in meditation, because if you're
Speaker 1: not the mind, then what is the mind? And if
Speaker 1: you're not the mind, then what are you? You know,
Speaker 1: we associate ourselves with our minds all the time, right,
Speaker 1: So it is possible that the mind could literally be
Speaker 1: a mind and all we are doing is just the
Speaker 1: observer of said mind.
Speaker 10: Right.
Speaker 1: So in that case, maybe you could make an argument
Speaker 1: that the mind would still be able to keep on
Speaker 1: creating because it has nothing to do with us anyway,
Speaker 1: and we're just the observer to it. Okay, So possibly
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think about how this could be possible.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry if I'm coming across as.
Speaker 2: Mean, No, it's not mean at all.
Speaker 3: I mean you and I, Like you said, you and
Speaker 3: I have difference of opinions as far as consciousness versus
Speaker 3: a soul. Right, I don't believe you need a soul
Speaker 3: to be created. I don't think you necessarily even need consciousness.
Speaker 2: To be creative.
Speaker 3: Obviously that's being proven right now. But to that point,
Speaker 3: is the brain the same thing as the mind? Or
Speaker 3: is the brain an organ that fires off certain synapses
Speaker 3: and chemical compounds within it to make us, like, think
Speaker 3: of what we have as a mind.
Speaker 1: So where would you suggest that the mind resides if
Speaker 1: it's not in the brain.
Speaker 2: No, no answer. What is the brain the mind? Or
Speaker 2: is the brain an organ?
Speaker 1: Well, the brain would be the mechanism that would allow
Speaker 1: you to experience the mind. I would have to imagine.
Speaker 3: Okay, right, it's the mechanism. It's not the actual mind itself.
Speaker 3: The mind is something within ourselves that we think that
Speaker 3: we have, right, I think therefore I am kind of
Speaker 3: situation we're getting philosophical.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but understand that.
Speaker 1: They they say that like even well, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you see what I mean? This is like deep waters
Speaker 1: because oh you know they say that, like even people
Speaker 1: in comas. Even though it shows like there's no brain
Speaker 1: active vity the people that come up out of the coomas,
Speaker 1: they say that they were able to listen in on
Speaker 1: the conversations. And so I don't I think that we're
Speaker 1: still understanding consciousness and you know, thought and brains and
Speaker 1: all that other shit, and it goes beyond scientific. And
Speaker 1: that's what I'm trying to say, is is that this
Speaker 1: is something beyond science.
Speaker 3: I mean, yes, I would agree with that one as well.
Speaker 3: And again it's not like he's like composing new sonnets
Speaker 3: besides writing music of a whole new orchestra or anything
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: Like what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's also very possible, very put to steel man my
Speaker 3: own argument here, that they made some brain neurolinks on it,
Speaker 3: and it's just hooked up to transmitters and whenever this
Speaker 3: brain synapse fires off, it makes the hammer hit this thing,
Speaker 3: and it's not actually music. It's more like a reflex
Speaker 3: type situation. That's also equally possible.
Speaker 1: Well that would be strawmaning, not steel Manning.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, but yeah, it's very possible that this is uh,
Speaker 3: just kind of what happens whenever, like and you have
Speaker 3: to talk to and it's responding to the world around it,
Speaker 3: and that's what's making them the hammers, hit the brass
Speaker 3: plates and all of that.
Speaker 2: It's very possible.
Speaker 3: This is the equivalent of like a brain matter reflex,
Speaker 3: and it's not necessarily making music. They just hooked it
Speaker 3: up to a mallet and a brass you know thing,
Speaker 3: rather than hooked it up to a little diode.
Speaker 2: Making like lines on a piece of paper.
Speaker 1: I mean, and could this be just a not even
Speaker 1: a conscious thought or anything like that, but more of
Speaker 1: a like a fight or flight animalistic kind of thing
Speaker 1: that we I mean, we are animals. It's just that
Speaker 1: we have conscious thought that kind of separates that.
Speaker 3: But very possible, and that's what I'm saying. They're gonna
Speaker 3: do more research into this. I have no doubts.
Speaker 2: I haven't heard the music itself. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's like all like.
Speaker 3: To a certain tune and like there's a certain beat
Speaker 3: that's being hailed and a certain tempo.
Speaker 2: I got no idea, But I still find it fascinating
Speaker 2: that they.
Speaker 3: Have a composer's brain matter lab grown brain matter, I
Speaker 3: might add, that is still making musical sounds after his death.
Speaker 2: I think that's cool as fuck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, go ahead there, spirit animal. Sorry to keep
Speaker 1: y'all waiting.
Speaker 13: Here to going on about the guy who they bring
Speaker 13: back through his blood. The blood literally holds the DNA
Speaker 13: of all your ancestry, So you and there's a reason
Speaker 13: why you can take a newborn baby tossed it in
Speaker 13: what it knows how to instinctively swamp. There's a reason
Speaker 13: why every everybody at some point in the life is
Speaker 13: terrified of the dark. There's a reason why people are
Speaker 13: fucking terrified of lions. It's DNA. Your blood really holds
Speaker 13: the lives. It is the collective knowledge ships that's imprinted
Speaker 13: on it.
Speaker 6: So I.
Speaker 18: Completely want believe that what they're doing is neclaments.
Speaker 11: It might not be him consciously, that could be a
Speaker 11: cone of him, or that could that The only thing
Speaker 11: that would different differgent, How do you pronounce that would differentiate?
Speaker 12: I feel you, thank you.
Speaker 11: That the only way you could do that between that
Speaker 11: brain and the dead guy that's in the ground, all.
Speaker 12: You'd have to do is somehow reanimate the one in
Speaker 12: the ground.
Speaker 25: Now, I mean, hey, Waldy opened up Pandora's box to
Speaker 25: fucking funking stock.
Speaker 3: You know what, I mean, now that's another thing I'm
Speaker 3: wondering if this is step one of that process, right,
Speaker 3: and now as they have more and more the celebrities
Speaker 3: that are like cryogenically freezing themselves and like maybe I.
Speaker 2: Think there's that big conspiracy that Walt.
Speaker 3: Disney did that is it possible this is step one
Speaker 3: to one day reanimate Walt Disney whenever they unfreeze him
Speaker 3: and all these things. But at that point there's also
Speaker 3: you got to reanimate the body for Frankenstein, like they
Speaker 3: had to use a dead muscle tissue and reanimate and
Speaker 3: that's that's way more in depth than this.
Speaker 2: But but I don't know.
Speaker 13: Mary Shay was actually correct on the method how she did.
Speaker 25: He tilted it up and down to try to get
Speaker 25: the blood flowing and everything that's been moving that you
Speaker 25: can actually somewhat reanimate somebody just on us and you
Speaker 25: get the blood pumping that. Yeah, she wrote that book
Speaker 25: in a contest against her husband and they married a
Speaker 25: couple of friends who could write the goat the Scariest ghostory.
Speaker 25: She's also the mother of science fiction and she kind
Speaker 25: of had a a fetish for the dead people.
Speaker 20: She uh lost, Yeah, she lost her virginity to a
Speaker 20: husband on her mother's grave.
Speaker 3: Okay, so Frankenstein's author kind of psycho, but I mean
Speaker 3: you would expect such.
Speaker 2: But again, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I guess, but I mean, I don't know if this
Speaker 3: is step one too, reanimating an entire dead creature and
Speaker 3: making a Frankenstein's monster in real life. But potentially it could.
Speaker 3: I don't know, Merlin, your hands been raised, brother, go ahead.
Speaker 9: I feel like this compares more to like so it'd
Speaker 9: be like, what is life? Is this really life?
Speaker 7: I don't really consider it, but it could be, because
Speaker 7: I mean, you could do the same experiment with microbials,
Speaker 7: like it's just picking up on electric fires essentially, because
Speaker 7: microbials would you know, react around humans. You also do
Speaker 7: the same thing with a fish tank, like put a
Speaker 7: laser beam behind a fish tank. Every time the fish
Speaker 7: crossed the laser, it was sent a sensor off to
Speaker 7: a piano strike a key. Sure you did the same
Speaker 7: thing with a bunch of different like a bunch of
Speaker 7: different animals.
Speaker 2: Very possibly. And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying this is the composer himself orchestrating new music,
Speaker 3: but this is music that he himself didn't create. But
Speaker 3: I mean, is it only music, because that's just what
Speaker 3: they hooked the brains pieces up to. And if it
Speaker 3: was instead of musical devices, if they would have hooked
Speaker 3: it up to a computer program, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: would it be creating some new version of a matrix.
Speaker 3: And it's like, oh my god, he was such a
Speaker 3: tech genius. No, he was an orchestrator and like or
Speaker 3: he was a composer, excuse me, and like this is
Speaker 3: just kind of what you have the brain neurons firing
Speaker 3: off to do, like I don't.
Speaker 7: Know, Yeah, I would have to arrange the brass pasts
Speaker 7: plays a little bit to create you know, functioning sat
Speaker 7: or it would just sound like noise.
Speaker 2: And I'm curious about that too. I want to see
Speaker 2: if we can listen to, uh, some of these sounds
Speaker 2: to see if it even sounds somewhat like music or
Speaker 2: does it just sound like random things and bangs that
Speaker 2: make no sense and don't even sound appealing to the ear.
Speaker 2: I'm very curious about that too.
Speaker 24: Well.
Speaker 1: And that's where it gets kind of weird too, because
Speaker 1: you know, if you were to hook this up to
Speaker 1: an a I think they are using AI for it.
Speaker 1: But if let's say you were to hook it up
Speaker 1: not to music, but to you know, a language model,
Speaker 1: to try and see if there is a message that
Speaker 1: you can pull from this blood cell, from a stem
Speaker 1: cell that turned into this organoid kind of thing, and
Speaker 1: like what if it made an entire like I don't know,
Speaker 1: like a like a relevant statement. Where would you say
Speaker 1: that's coming from?
Speaker 2: Is that new?
Speaker 1: Is that him? Is that a did an?
Speaker 2: Also? How about this?
Speaker 1: We're not even talking about the idea that this could
Speaker 1: be an entity that is into.
Speaker 2: This cell now, like like I said, neckromancy, dude, that's.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, and so could this and that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. There's so many things but to just say,
Speaker 1: oh it's it's him or it's a version of him. No,
Speaker 1: there's no fucking way, dude. I don't buy that it's possible.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I don't believe it.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find I'm looking at videos right now
Speaker 2: the situation, but I don't I don't see anything of
Speaker 2: like actually like the the lab itself doing the things
Speaker 2: to where we could hear some of it.
Speaker 1: Uh Merlin, go ahead, sir, When that can you but.
Speaker 7: Don't they already do that with dogs, Like they put
Speaker 7: the collar on the dog and the dog responds and
Speaker 7: it shoots out words.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they they Actually I saw that there was
Speaker 1: this new device. I don't know how you know, legit
Speaker 1: it is or whatever, but supposedly somebody hooked up like
Speaker 1: these nodes and brought it like it's connected to a
Speaker 1: computer that's connected to an AI and they put these
Speaker 1: little these little nodes on a tree and supposedly the
Speaker 1: tree is giving information to the AI, which is turning
Speaker 1: into sentences. And this would be how you're like communicating
Speaker 1: with nature in that sense, and you can find out
Speaker 1: what it needs or what it has too much of
Speaker 1: or something like that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just saw that today.
Speaker 6: So yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 7: I feel like so much that depends on the code
Speaker 7: system though, like because you have to.
Speaker 9: Like find the right like you still got right code
Speaker 9: run the system.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the thing about it is, too is who's to
Speaker 1: say that nature, or alien or an animal or anything
Speaker 1: like that even thinks in the same way that we do,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, How would it even know
Speaker 1: to put a word into a structured type of sentence
Speaker 1: to even view the world the way that we do,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And that's where it's like,
Speaker 1: it's really strange. Now, Like you hear about people getting
Speaker 1: prophecies or channeled messages or anything like that. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, if that is real, then are we Does
Speaker 1: that mean that God or the aliens or spirits or
Speaker 1: whatever are literally thinking in the same way that we do.
Speaker 1: You got to think about it, all the possibilities in
Speaker 1: the world and we all think the same exact way.
Speaker 1: That's that would be kind of weird if that's the
Speaker 1: If that's the case, this is also why I.
Speaker 3: Don't really get down with most people that claim that
Speaker 3: they have a prophecy or a channeled message these days.
Speaker 1: Right, oh, I know, because that could only happen two
Speaker 1: thousand years ago.
Speaker 3: No, none of you to your point, to your point, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's kind of crazy out loud. Yeah right, I'm making
Speaker 3: your point for you, and you still find a way
Speaker 3: to shit on Christianity.
Speaker 2: It's insane.
Speaker 1: I'm not shitting on Christianity. I'm just shitting on people
Speaker 1: that believe that magic only happens within the religion that
Speaker 1: they believe in.
Speaker 13: No.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't say that that's what you believe. I
Speaker 2: didn't say that I believe that either.
Speaker 3: I'm saying that the ninety nine point nine nine nine
Speaker 3: percent of people that claim they're catching a download have
Speaker 3: a channeled message or have some sort of prophecy, even
Speaker 3: from God. In today's world, I find to be, you know,
Speaker 3: either full of shit or it didn't come from God.
Speaker 3: It's very possible they just like had ad and they
Speaker 3: talked about it and it's something that came true six
Speaker 3: months later.
Speaker 2: That doesn't necessarily mean it's a prophecy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. You want to say something else,
Speaker 1: I'm really go ahead.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So I all right, So I think everything is connected,
Speaker 7: like especially through electricity, Like electricity runs through everything, like
Speaker 7: you can physically see it with certain lenses of shit,
Speaker 7: But man about the miracle thing like with that same
Speaker 7: energy that flows through everything. All right, So long story short,
Speaker 7: My mom was supposed to die, like she had six
Speaker 7: months to live.
Speaker 9: There was down to a month to live, down to
Speaker 9: two weeks to live.
Speaker 7: And we grew up in a Catholic family, but then
Speaker 7: we switched churches because of some shit.
Speaker 9: But uh, one day I was at church, and I
Speaker 9: mean I begged and plead anything that was out there.
Speaker 7: Like I was, I didn't know what to call it
Speaker 7: or who to like, who to call out to, but
Speaker 7: I was like, yo, I had more like litigated why
Speaker 7: my mom.
Speaker 9: Should stick around and no bullshit.
Speaker 7: This lady gets up in the back of the church
Speaker 7: and starts pacing, but every time she goes from wall
Speaker 7: to wall, she ends five feet shorter and just staring
Speaker 7: out into the crowd like she had lost her kid.
Speaker 7: It was so weird, like me and my yeah, we're
Speaker 7: in church, everybody's spraying. Me and my sister are looking
Speaker 7: over her shoulder, like, who the.
Speaker 9: Hell is this lady?
Speaker 7: And she looks at me and she's like are you
Speaker 7: And she calls me out by name and I'm like yeah.
Speaker 7: My mom looks over her short and she's like, what
Speaker 7: do you want. She's a fiery Mexican woman. But we
Speaker 7: don't nobody at all what was going on. My mom
Speaker 7: like she didn't want sympathy, she didn't want nothing. She
Speaker 7: just wanted to go out the way she came in,
Speaker 7: just swing it. And she was like, your mom's gonna
Speaker 7: be okay, dude, And I was like what, And my
Speaker 7: mom got pissed off, and she was like, your mom's
Speaker 7: I don't mean to cause trouble, but your mom's gonna
Speaker 7: be okay, And two weeks later her disease went away,
Speaker 7: Like it was crazy.
Speaker 9: So something is definitely out there listening for sure, something.
Speaker 7: Like is definitely connected to everybody. So for him to
Speaker 7: be like, all right, this kid's not going to believe
Speaker 7: me if I put a voice in this head. He's
Speaker 7: just gonna think it's an own voice. But he won't
Speaker 7: believe the weird lady in the back of the church
Speaker 7: for some reason.
Speaker 2: There's definitely sen your mom got better.
Speaker 9: Ye crazy.
Speaker 2: But again, I don't even know if I would call.
Speaker 3: That prophecy, but I mean I could see why that
Speaker 3: would kind of go in the same rhyme and reason.
Speaker 1: As such, like it's for telling a future event. What's
Speaker 1: prophecy if it's not.
Speaker 7: That, yeah, exactly, Like so some prophecies have to be
Speaker 7: kind of true, like there has to be some delimity. Now,
Speaker 7: whether they come from a good place or a bad place,
Speaker 7: that's a different story.
Speaker 3: I think the distinction between what's a prophecy or not
Speaker 3: is if the person who says it lives to actually
Speaker 3: see it come through to fruition. I think there's like
Speaker 3: a part of the definition itself that says that. But
Speaker 3: I don't know what else you would call this.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, but I'm looking it up
Speaker 1: because I want to know it too, because I feel
Speaker 1: like we talk about this a lot to not know
Speaker 1: the exact definition. But it says prophecy an inspired utterance
Speaker 1: of a prophet, viewed as a revelation of divine will.
Speaker 1: The second one is a prediction of the future made
Speaker 1: under divine inspiration. The third one is such an inspired
Speaker 1: message or prediction transmitted orally or in writing.
Speaker 2: Okay, nothing about this, I was wrong.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, So anyway, But I'm over at god Questions
Speaker 1: dot org, which is like a biblical thing, and it
Speaker 1: says what is prophecy? It says prophecy at its most
Speaker 1: basic definition is a message from God.
Speaker 2: That's it. I mean, fair enough. So, But then, I mean,
Speaker 2: this very well could have been.
Speaker 3: But I've also seen people bake claims like that there
Speaker 3: was like a message from God, but it wasn't necessarily
Speaker 3: what they would call prophetic message.
Speaker 2: But I guess where do we draw that line?
Speaker 1: I mean, by definition? Yeah, yeah, I guess so, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's just a future you're calling your shot
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Fair fair enough, So anyway, all.
Speaker 2: Right, well glad to hear your mom got better though, Merlin.
Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, yeah, that's legit. All right, Well, I think
Speaker 1: we should probably wrap it up there. That was a fun,
Speaker 1: interesting style chat. Samuel, go ahead and give your send off, sir.
Speaker 2: As he's got a mouthful of food. Damn that sucks.
Speaker 2: The timing on that really did suck.
Speaker 1: Swallow it, swallow it.
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