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With Susan 35 00:02:01.439 --> 00:02:06.359 Sarandon's Stole the Necklace, Sidney hatches a diabolical plan to 36 00:02:06.439 --> 00:02:11.759 achieve his ultimate fantasy trophy kill the Shall We Dance? 37 00:02:11.840 --> 00:02:25.000 Murder The Trial and Revelations of a Psychopathic Killer. On 38 00:02:25.120 --> 00:02:28.879 July one, two thousand and three, the Miramax movie Shall 39 00:02:28.919 --> 00:02:33.360 We Dance starring Jennifer Lopez, Susan Sarandon, and rich In Gear, 40 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:38.479 was being filmed in Winnipeg. The next day, Sidney Tearhus 41 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:41.680 walked into a police station claiming he had awoken from 42 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:45.280 a drunken blackout to discover a man dead in the bathtub, 43 00:02:45.879 --> 00:02:49.439 maintaining he had no memory of the killing. Police discover 44 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:55.680 the victim cut into eight pieces, decapitated, disemboweled sawn in half, 45 00:02:56.199 --> 00:03:01.400 with all of the internal organs missing and mutilated. Corpse 46 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:07.319 was posed crudely reassembled with Susan Sarandon's gold necklace found 47 00:03:07.319 --> 00:03:11.960 a few feet away from the murder horror spectacle. Through 48 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:15.240 a fateful turn of events, journalist Dan Zupansky has an 49 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:18.879 opportunity to correspond with the killer. He gains his trust 50 00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:21.479 and is eventually sent a series of shocking letters and 51 00:03:21.560 --> 00:03:26.080 diagrams outlining every graphic and horrific detail of the murder, 52 00:03:26.599 --> 00:03:31.400 organ removal, and sex with the corpse. Then contacts authorities 53 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:33.759 and is suddenly thrust into the trial as the prosecution 54 00:03:33.919 --> 00:03:38.639 star witness testifying against the killer, desperate to see him 55 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:42.639 sentenced to life in prison. Prosecutors have the burden to 56 00:03:42.719 --> 00:03:46.879 prove Sydney had the necessary intent to kill. If they fail, 57 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:52.360 Sidney walks the streets again discover the incredible rule that 58 00:03:52.479 --> 00:03:55.960 Susan Sarandon's stole in jewelry had in the motive for 59 00:03:56.039 --> 00:04:01.520 one of the most horrifying murders of all time. Good Evening, 60 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:04.719 this is your host Stanzepanski for the program True Murder, 61 00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:07.840 The most Shocking Killers in True crime History, and the 62 00:04:07.879 --> 00:04:12.400 authors that have written about them. Now using this program 63 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:18.120 as an opportunity to promote my upcoming book, my first book. 64 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:27.000 This book is about Trophy Kill, the trial and revelations 65 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:30.720 of a psychopathic killer. Then Shall We Dance Murder? I'm 66 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:34.920 gonna explained and unfold the story to my audience tonight. 67 00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:38.040 I have seen over the past programs that there have 68 00:04:38.120 --> 00:04:41.879 been some telephone callers. I don't want to be ignorant 69 00:04:41.959 --> 00:04:44.720 or anything, but let's wait till about half an hour 70 00:04:44.839 --> 00:04:47.879 thirty five minutes, wait till we have this story unfold. 71 00:04:48.800 --> 00:04:51.720 Gather your thoughts and your questions, and I would be 72 00:04:51.800 --> 00:04:54.600 more than happy believe me to answer any one of 73 00:04:54.639 --> 00:04:57.800 your questions. But please sit back and listen to this 74 00:04:57.879 --> 00:05:02.519 incredible story. I'm sure that you haven't heard this story. 75 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:06.720 If you have heard something about this story, wait to 76 00:05:06.759 --> 00:05:12.360 hear all the details. Now. This story starts in Winnipeg, 77 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:15.759 and Winnipeg is in the province of Manitoba in Canada, 78 00:05:18.040 --> 00:05:23.000 near North Dakota, South Dakota, near that border. Those listeners 79 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:28.439 in the United States, now Winnipeg, Manitoba. This is July one, 80 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:35.120 two thousand and three, and the Miramax movie Shall We 81 00:05:35.240 --> 00:05:41.040 Dance starring Jennifer Lopez, Susan Sarandon and Richard Gear was 82 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:46.800 in Winnipeg. July first, happens to be our Canada Day, 83 00:05:47.600 --> 00:05:52.839 the American equivalent of July fourth, And a man named 84 00:05:52.920 --> 00:05:57.680 Robin Robert Green, Junior was in Winnipeg and he was 85 00:05:57.759 --> 00:06:04.120 visiting from a reserve, a Native reserve called Shoal Lake, Ontario. 86 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:07.040 And this is about a couple hours drive east of Winnipeg, 87 00:06:07.959 --> 00:06:10.439 just the other side of the Manitoba border. And for 88 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:13.439 those of you don't know, Winnipeg is about seven hundred 89 00:06:13.480 --> 00:06:17.759 thousand people, about the size of Seattle, Washington or Seattle 90 00:06:17.800 --> 00:06:22.319 pardon me. And Seattle, however, is much bigger, as are 91 00:06:22.680 --> 00:06:29.399 many American cities in their metropolitan area the suburbs, whereas 92 00:06:29.560 --> 00:06:33.439 we certainly we have people going out to the suburbs 93 00:06:33.439 --> 00:06:37.560 and building and living out in the suburbs. But we 94 00:06:37.600 --> 00:06:41.920 have about seven hundred thousand people in our city primarily 95 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:47.079 primarily now. Anyway, this gentleman, Robert Green, was a thirty 96 00:06:47.120 --> 00:06:50.759 eight year old Aboriginal man and he wanted to visit Winnipeg. 97 00:06:52.560 --> 00:06:55.240 He wanted to visit Winnipeg for the Canada Day festivities 98 00:06:55.279 --> 00:07:01.120 and also to visit his sister, apparently now Susan Sarandon. 99 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:04.040 On July first, her and her assistant were in a 100 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:07.360 trailer and they had just changed some clothes after having 101 00:07:07.399 --> 00:07:12.519 filmed some scenes in the movie. And Susan Sarandon had 102 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:15.600 been in Winnipeg for almost two weeks. She's finding the 103 00:07:15.639 --> 00:07:20.560 city very enjoyable. She had frequented some restaurants, shopped in 104 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:24.160 some boutiques, and he had even gone to a baseball game. 105 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:31.040 Now Susan on this July first, And the gold necklace, 106 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:34.879 by the way, is she wears this necklace in the movie. 107 00:07:34.879 --> 00:07:37.920 It's a gold necklace. It looks like an older necklace. 108 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:41.279 There have been various reports that this is costume jewelry. However, 109 00:07:41.319 --> 00:07:45.319 it's very expensive jewelry. They listed the price at about 110 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:50.240 four thousand dollars. Now, she removed her earrings, her engraved 111 00:07:50.279 --> 00:07:55.319 silver bracelet, and her antique looking at least gold necklace 112 00:07:55.360 --> 00:07:59.560 with pennant and as system was there, and they put 113 00:07:59.560 --> 00:08:05.879 there away and they left the trailer. Now back to 114 00:08:06.680 --> 00:08:10.120 Robin Green. He was out near the area and he 115 00:08:10.199 --> 00:08:14.040 came upon a bunch of people assembled behind a barricade. 116 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:17.839 And what he came upon was the movie set. They 117 00:08:17.839 --> 00:08:23.920 were doing some outdoor shots and there were a bunch 118 00:08:23.959 --> 00:08:29.519 of fans looking celebrity watching, trying to get a glimpse 119 00:08:29.560 --> 00:08:33.480 of Richard Gear or Susan Sarandon. Jennifer Lopez was the 120 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:35.799 star of the movie. However, Jennifer Lopez wasn't in the 121 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:38.519 city as of yet. She was not to arrive in 122 00:08:38.519 --> 00:08:45.200 Winnipeg un till about the fourth of July. Anyway, Robin 123 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:51.759 Robin Green, Robert pardon me, Robin Robert Green hung around 124 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:54.360 for a little while with the group that had assembled 125 00:08:54.360 --> 00:08:57.320 around this barricade, trying to get a glimpse along the stars. 126 00:08:57.919 --> 00:09:01.320 They didn't. Nobody got the spot anybody. And so he 127 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:04.360 walked north of about two blocks or so, two or 128 00:09:04.360 --> 00:09:08.080 three blocks, and lo and behold, the actors' trailers were 129 00:09:08.120 --> 00:09:13.120 set up. And for some reason, and we'll get into 130 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:16.440 this a little bit later, the security wasn't there, and 131 00:09:16.679 --> 00:09:20.960 security never spotted him, and he went into probably the 132 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:24.440 biggest and best looking trailer, looked around and quickly found 133 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:29.960 the jewelry and headed towards Main Street. Half an hour 134 00:09:30.039 --> 00:09:32.240 or so later, and cause the movie set was set 135 00:09:32.279 --> 00:09:36.320 up by the Legislative building on what's the Cinnaboine Avenue, 136 00:09:36.720 --> 00:09:40.600 and he wasn't maybe fifteen minutes. He was near the forks, 137 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:46.919 and he was maybe fifteen minutes away from his destination. 138 00:09:47.080 --> 00:09:51.159 And so he went north, headed to Main Street and 139 00:09:51.360 --> 00:09:55.480 went into an old established bar called Woodbine Hotel. And 140 00:09:55.639 --> 00:09:57.919 according to and a lot of this story really is 141 00:09:58.159 --> 00:10:04.399 from the killer him self. But needless to say, Robin 142 00:10:04.440 --> 00:10:07.960 Green went from table to table trying to sell Susan 143 00:10:08.039 --> 00:10:10.600 Sarandon's gold necklace, one of the pieces of jewelry he 144 00:10:10.639 --> 00:10:17.000 had stolen, and for fifteen dollars. And Sidney teerhust was 145 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:19.360 sitting in the Woodbine. Woodbine is one of these bars. 146 00:10:19.360 --> 00:10:24.360 It opens at nine thirty in the morning. It's put 147 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:28.480 it nicely. It's a hardcore bar. It's a decent looking place, 148 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:32.679 but you know it caters to a pretty dedicated drinking audience, 149 00:10:33.559 --> 00:10:38.960 hence the hardcore. So Robin Green was trying to sell 150 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:42.879 this gold necklace for fifteen dollars. Sidney tier Hughes was 151 00:10:42.919 --> 00:10:49.240 approached by Robin Green. They got to talking. Sidney tier 152 00:10:49.320 --> 00:10:55.840 Hues is a self avowed bisexual. Robin Green and Sidney 153 00:10:55.879 --> 00:10:59.720 Teerhues agreed to go back to Sydney's hotel which is 154 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:03.240 about block away called the Royal Albert Hotel, and he 155 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:06.879 had rented this room. He had been in Winnipeg for 156 00:11:06.960 --> 00:11:10.080 about three weeks. He had lived out in Vancouver for 157 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:12.840 quite a while and Edmonton as well. He worked as 158 00:11:12.840 --> 00:11:17.720 a chef. Sidney Tierhus was an Aboriginal as well, thirty 159 00:11:17.759 --> 00:11:22.440 three years old. However, he had been adopted by a 160 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:26.519 white family, a Dutch family in Winnipeg and taken from 161 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:30.879 a small reserve, Little Grand Rapids in Northern Manitoba when 162 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:33.080 he was just a small child and adopted into the 163 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:37.279 white family and raised by this family. Adopted and raised 164 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:39.840 by this family in Winnipeg. Then he'd moved out to 165 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:43.000 the West Coast, became a chef and spent about ten 166 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:46.840 years out there. So anyway, Robin Green, Sidney tire Husse 167 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:51.080 go back to the hotel. They have some homosexual sex, 168 00:11:51.240 --> 00:11:55.440 some oral sex. They drink some alcohol. That was the 169 00:11:55.480 --> 00:11:58.039 premise that Sydney had invited him back to the room 170 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:02.480 for some drinks. July first, This was a really hot day, 171 00:12:02.679 --> 00:12:08.480 exceptionally hot day. It was very nice, sunny, a out 172 00:12:08.519 --> 00:12:11.120 of cloud in the sky, warm day, very warm day. 173 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:14.320 And this is an old hotel building about nineteen thirteen 174 00:12:14.360 --> 00:12:17.559 with no air conditioning, so it's quite hot. Anyway, they 175 00:12:17.600 --> 00:12:19.399 stayed in the room for a little while. 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Whoever, 186 00:12:59.279 --> 00:13:01.840 was just down the street from the Shall We Dance? 187 00:13:02.440 --> 00:13:07.320 Movie set outdoor location and all the hullabou hullabaloo were 188 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:11.200 involved with that, and all the fans vying to see 189 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:15.759 their star celebrities that they were interested in seeing, and 190 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:18.679 the police were there and of course security. He's a 191 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:22.120 big celebrity. So anyway, they stayed at the park for 192 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:29.159 a little while and then they came back and they 193 00:13:29.200 --> 00:13:31.519 talked to the bartender. It was one of the only 194 00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:34.559 witnesses at the trial that actually spoke to them, and 195 00:13:34.600 --> 00:13:40.440 apparently Robin Green was staggering, drunk, very intoxicated. Robin, pardon me, 196 00:13:40.759 --> 00:13:45.440 Sydney seemed to be fairly normal. They bid their goodbyes 197 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:49.480 to the bartenders. Sydney wanted to go downstairs and get 198 00:13:49.480 --> 00:13:51.759 some ice. He asked the bartender to watch him for 199 00:13:51.799 --> 00:13:59.879 a second, he introduced him, they went upstairs, and the 200 00:14:00.480 --> 00:14:06.480 story ends for the time being. Now the next morning, 201 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:14.360 July second, Now I'm skipping ahead a little bit, of course, 202 00:14:14.519 --> 00:14:18.200 once the jewelry is stolen, Susan Surrandon and her assistant 203 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:21.799 notice that the jeury is stolen and of course call police. 204 00:14:21.799 --> 00:14:24.120 So police are called to the Shall We Dance movie 205 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:31.919 set on July first, concerning the theft of some jewelry. 206 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:37.080 And on July second, around nine thirty am, Sidney tierheues, 207 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:40.440 thinking that he is walking into a police station, actually 208 00:14:40.440 --> 00:14:44.240 goes into a remand center, which is a holding center 209 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:49.639 basically a jail, a little bit different than a police station. 210 00:14:50.559 --> 00:14:53.080 This is where somebody would go in to visit somebody 211 00:14:53.080 --> 00:14:59.159 that was in custody awaiting trial. 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And where are you now? 260 00:17:35.000 --> 00:17:39.039 The remand center, She said, sir, police officers are on 261 00:17:39.079 --> 00:17:46.480 their way now. Two police officers come, Officer August Marin 262 00:17:46.519 --> 00:17:51.519 and her his partner, Sylvia Schroeder, And he'd been a 263 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:53.240 cop for about eight years, she'd been a cop about 264 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:56.359 four years. And they walked into the facility, saw Sydney 265 00:17:56.359 --> 00:17:59.920 sitting on a small couch close to the entrance, and 266 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:03.359 asked him to displain his story. So, besides what the 267 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:06.680 two officers had already been informed of by the nine 268 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:10.079 one one operators of Banski, Sydney told them that he 269 00:18:10.079 --> 00:18:12.440 had met the victim. They'd gone to his room for 270 00:18:12.559 --> 00:18:16.640 drinks and this seemed odd to me, consensual sex and 271 00:18:16.720 --> 00:18:20.400 eventually had passed out intoxicated. When he woke, he went 272 00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:24.200 to the washroom and in the bathtub was a dismembered body. Now, 273 00:18:24.240 --> 00:18:26.640 I never gave any more details to these officers, and 274 00:18:27.559 --> 00:18:30.680 the three of them proceeded to the Royal Albert Arms 275 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:36.079 Hotel in Sydney's room. So the hotel was not very 276 00:18:36.079 --> 00:18:40.960 far and they arrived during a few minutes. This is, 277 00:18:41.680 --> 00:18:45.880 I say, an older hotel built in nineteen thirteen. Now 278 00:18:46.359 --> 00:18:49.839 it's a sort of a mainstay for punkin hardcore metal 279 00:18:49.880 --> 00:18:53.279 bands to play in the bar in the basement caters 280 00:18:53.319 --> 00:18:58.680 to it's a low income clientele in the hotel itself, 281 00:18:58.759 --> 00:19:03.240 and so maybe get the picture. Another cop joined them 282 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:06.400 at the hotel and the three officers in Sydney that 283 00:19:06.440 --> 00:19:09.880 they went through the front entrance, past the barroom, up 284 00:19:09.920 --> 00:19:16.759 the elevator into the third floor. Now they asked him 285 00:19:16.759 --> 00:19:19.279 for the key and he had it to him, and 286 00:19:19.599 --> 00:19:22.839 Officer Maren opened the door and walked in first and 287 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:27.880 his partner, Officer Schroder followed, and Constable Beach he remained 288 00:19:27.880 --> 00:19:31.039 in the hallway with Sydney. Now it was an incredibly 289 00:19:31.079 --> 00:19:35.000 small room and it was beer bottles all over the 290 00:19:35.039 --> 00:19:40.160 place and a bunch of pairs of blood stained underwear. Now, 291 00:19:40.680 --> 00:19:44.400 female Officer Schroder found a bed sheet on the floor 292 00:19:44.400 --> 00:19:48.160 covered in blood, and the mattress had several seemed seemingly 293 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:52.119 deep knife cuts and was soaked with blood. Now there 294 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:54.359 was blood splattered all over the wall by the bed 295 00:19:54.519 --> 00:19:58.519 and the wall leading to the washroom. Now Maren quickly 296 00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:02.640 completed looking about this little room, like I say, and 297 00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:06.960 proceeded to the washroom. When he pushed open the door, 298 00:20:08.759 --> 00:20:14.160 he froze in the antique cloth foot backhub Robin Green 299 00:20:14.319 --> 00:20:18.759 was displayed lying on his back facing the doorway. He 300 00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:24.680 had been dismembered and posed crudely reassembled. The decapitated head 301 00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:29.079 with long, straight, coarse black hair, sat atop the neck 302 00:20:29.119 --> 00:20:32.640 and torso. One of the eyeballs was gone and the 303 00:20:32.680 --> 00:20:37.480 other punctured. The mouth was frozen wide open. Now the 304 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:40.720 body was sawn in half at the waist. The severed 305 00:20:40.799 --> 00:20:44.680 forearms were positioned close to the elbows, as well as 306 00:20:44.720 --> 00:20:50.519 the severed legs, which had been cut cleanly surgically just 307 00:20:50.559 --> 00:20:54.599 below the knees. Now the penis and testicles again were 308 00:20:55.640 --> 00:20:59.960 surgically removed together and placed where they would be normal. 309 00:21:00.839 --> 00:21:06.200 The chest had dozens of steep stab wooms, and it 310 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:10.920 was carved in a figure eight pattern. Right nipple was 311 00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:13.559 cut off, and the right forearm and the hand were 312 00:21:13.599 --> 00:21:20.240 partially dissected. Now at the same time, simultaneously he's seeing 313 00:21:20.240 --> 00:21:22.400 all of this. There was one huge cut from the 314 00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:26.200 neck clear to the waist, and the chest and abdominal 315 00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:32.160 cavity were completely empty. Flash hung from the two rib cages. 316 00:21:32.519 --> 00:21:36.319 The skin's color was gray. All of the internal organs, 317 00:21:36.319 --> 00:21:39.200 the intestines, everything that normally would have been in a 318 00:21:39.279 --> 00:21:44.039 body was gone. There was no blood inside the cavity 319 00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:50.720 or on any of the body parts. Now, this officer maren. 320 00:21:50.799 --> 00:21:52.839 He stood there for about two or three minutes. He 321 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:57.680 couldn't move. He stood there, trends fixed. He couldn't move 322 00:21:57.920 --> 00:22:02.200 or say anything. His mind could simply not process what 323 00:22:02.279 --> 00:22:05.640 he was witnessing. Despite the fact he had grown up 324 00:22:05.680 --> 00:22:11.000 in rough and tumble Winnipeg, despite his extensive police training 325 00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:15.599 in almost eight years working the streets of Winnipeg, and 326 00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:18.119 this is a murder capital of Canada many years running. 327 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:20.359 Despite having been told by Sidney that there would be 328 00:22:20.359 --> 00:22:24.720 a chopped up body in the bathtub, the scene, this 329 00:22:24.799 --> 00:22:29.119 scene was overwhelming. This big, strong, tough and trained veteran 330 00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:35.039 officer found himself short of breath, tight chest sweating, shaking, 331 00:22:35.160 --> 00:22:38.559 and needing to vomit. The sight and smell of the 332 00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:42.319 rotting corpse, surrounded by a horde of flies, began to 333 00:22:42.400 --> 00:22:47.480 finally snap him back to reality. Initial shock turned to cold, 334 00:22:47.519 --> 00:22:54.599 hard recognition, and then finally revulsion. He finally stumbled out 335 00:22:54.599 --> 00:22:57.279 of the washroom to the main room and then out 336 00:22:57.359 --> 00:23:01.920 quickly into the hallway. He tried his best to compose himself, 337 00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:06.720 steadying himself in the doorway, trying to catch his breath, 338 00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:11.880 and finally told Officer Beach cougham and he did. Referring 339 00:23:13.079 --> 00:23:15.880 referring to the washroom, he told his partner, don't go 340 00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:20.039 inside there, you really don't need to see that. And 341 00:23:20.240 --> 00:23:22.440 Officer Maren locked the door and gave the key to 342 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:27.359 Officer Beach so he could remain keeping the room secure. Now, 343 00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:30.359 the two officers Maren and Schroeder walked to the elevator 344 00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:32.799 and traveled downstairs to the lobby and then outside to 345 00:23:32.839 --> 00:23:37.640 the police car. Now, Officer Schroeder placed Sidney in the backseat, 346 00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:40.920 and then she was concerned. She asked her partner you okay, 347 00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:44.039 and the guy was shaking, and the officer wiped his 348 00:23:44.640 --> 00:23:47.720 tears from his face and replied no, I'm not not 349 00:23:47.799 --> 00:23:54.079 after seeing something like that. So the three of them 350 00:23:58.200 --> 00:24:03.319 she had called headquarters report the murder and asked if 351 00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:04.960 you wanted to contact the laure and said he did. 352 00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:09.200 The coroner's van pulled up, then the Crown Victoria police 353 00:24:09.200 --> 00:24:12.960 car showed up. Shortly after that, four crime technicians, a 354 00:24:13.039 --> 00:24:15.680 coroner and the two cops center the hotel, went to 355 00:24:16.319 --> 00:24:19.640 room three o nine. There had been a crowd started 356 00:24:19.640 --> 00:24:23.880 to gather almost immediately outside the hotel. CTV News showed 357 00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:25.359 up shortly after that, and a couple of the other 358 00:24:25.400 --> 00:24:31.039 news agencies, and it's almost like with the news agencies 359 00:24:31.079 --> 00:24:34.119 came all the curious onlookers. Someone who was even heard 360 00:24:34.160 --> 00:24:36.359 asking if the scene was being filmed. There's so many 361 00:24:36.359 --> 00:24:38.759 movies in Winnipeg. They thought it was being part of 362 00:24:38.799 --> 00:24:42.640 a movie. Now Sydney here who sent handcuffed in the 363 00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:46.039 police card. Nobody even noticed this guy, who's there for 364 00:24:46.079 --> 00:24:50.759 about ten minutes or so. Three of them then proceeded 365 00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:55.559 to the Public Safety building. The crime scene investigators searching 366 00:24:55.559 --> 00:24:59.880 the room, however, had discovered Susan Sarandon stole in gold necklace. 367 00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:08.359 In the midst of this whole murder horror spectacle. Now, 368 00:25:08.839 --> 00:25:11.160 how I came to this story and my involvement is 369 00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:17.440 a central feature of this book. When I first became 370 00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:19.759 involved with this, I'll give you a little bit of 371 00:25:19.759 --> 00:25:24.240 the background. But when I first heard about this, I 372 00:25:24.279 --> 00:25:27.480 had arrived back in Winnipeg. I'm originally from thunder Bay, Ontario, 373 00:25:28.480 --> 00:25:34.319 about five hundred miles away from Winnipeg East and anyway, 374 00:25:34.319 --> 00:25:37.960 I arrived back on the fourth of July after spending 375 00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:41.359 Canada Day and thunder Bay, and I saw the Winnipeg 376 00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:45.640 Sun newspaper with the headline victim cut in pieces, stole 377 00:25:45.759 --> 00:25:49.279 in film, jewelry and bizarre tale of murder. And in 378 00:25:49.319 --> 00:25:52.480 the subsequent days I saw the murder dismemberment story make 379 00:25:52.519 --> 00:25:55.920 the front pages. And then on July twelfth, Sidney Tierhues 380 00:25:56.599 --> 00:26:00.000 again on the front page, this time with his smiling 381 00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:03.240 in the headline I Am not a monster, and inside 382 00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:08.000 there's another caption, I'm not Jeffrey Dahmer. And the headline 383 00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:10.480 in the paper on page three was Royal Albert hell 384 00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:16.160 a Qu's killer has no recall of grizzly events. Now 385 00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:18.039 I read the story about the gruesome murder and the 386 00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:22.960 statements made by Tearhuse and saying he had passed out 387 00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:26.599 and he had no memory of the killing. I was 388 00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:29.759 doing a radio show since two thousand, called Off the Cuff, 389 00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:32.119 and I had the freedom to be able to interview 390 00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:34.960 anybody about anything I wanted. I was sort of an 391 00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:37.480 open format I came up with. It was a one 392 00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:42.200 hour weekly program live, and so I could handle some 393 00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:46.559 controversial topics. About a couple of years in and I 394 00:26:46.599 --> 00:26:50.720 had been in Winnipeg only both at that time, about 395 00:26:50.799 --> 00:26:54.400 six or eight years. But I was very dismayed by 396 00:26:54.440 --> 00:26:57.240 the kind of stuff I was reading in the newspapers. 397 00:26:57.279 --> 00:27:00.680 Some of the most bizarre crimes in Canada are occurring 398 00:27:00.759 --> 00:27:03.720 right in Winnipeg. Like I say, it's the murder capital 399 00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:07.279 of Canada many years running by far, and so there 400 00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:09.640 are some serious problems here and we won't go into that, 401 00:27:09.680 --> 00:27:13.880