WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:01.919 Oh bed of their. 2 00:00:44.799 --> 00:00:48.560 Hello, and welcome to the show. This is the Cult 3 00:00:48.799 --> 00:00:51.880 of Conspiracy. And my name is Jonathan, I'm Jacob and 4 00:00:51.960 --> 00:00:56.399 today we I'm actually in Louisiana. I'm at my sisters 5 00:00:56.439 --> 00:01:00.840 and my sister's lovely garage. And it's still a little 6 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:03.880 toasty in Louisiana because there is no ac in here 7 00:01:03.960 --> 00:01:06.000 and it's a little sweaty. But that's all right. We're 8 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:06.719 muscling through. 9 00:01:07.599 --> 00:01:09.239 If I would have known that you were and you 10 00:01:09.280 --> 00:01:11.560 told me that you were coming to the state, if 11 00:01:11.560 --> 00:01:13.920 I would have like thought ahead, I would have had 12 00:01:13.959 --> 00:01:14.680 a second. 13 00:01:14.439 --> 00:01:16.000 Chair lined up ready to go here. 14 00:01:16.040 --> 00:01:17.400 But I mean, I know you just came off the 15 00:01:17.439 --> 00:01:19.439 road and everything, so I mean, it is what it is. 16 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:21.439 But we are going to try to get through this 17 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:25.920 episode tonight in quick time. Although we are going to 18 00:01:25.920 --> 00:01:28.040 be going very in depth. I'm gonna try to blaze 19 00:01:28.079 --> 00:01:28.760 through the material. 20 00:01:29.319 --> 00:01:30.159 Ladies and gentlemen. 21 00:01:31.200 --> 00:01:34.000 We are living in wild times, we really are, and 22 00:01:34.040 --> 00:01:36.920 as everything is going on around us, we keep hearing 23 00:01:36.959 --> 00:01:41.239 certain people, certain politicians be attributed to the Nazi Party, 24 00:01:41.480 --> 00:01:45.200 to fascism, to all these things. Literally hitler, that's a 25 00:01:45.319 --> 00:01:46.359 term here. 26 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:46.840 Used a lot. 27 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:49.319 And I'm not gonna throw political names on it. It's 28 00:01:49.359 --> 00:01:52.560 election day or there after, day after anyway, and you know, 29 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:54.359 we have a lot of things going on. You're hearing 30 00:01:54.400 --> 00:01:56.799 a lot of rhetoric. But you know, it kind of 31 00:01:56.840 --> 00:02:00.000 got me thinking, as we are the cult of conspiracy, 32 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:03.439 and we have talked a bit about Nazi occult symbolism 33 00:02:03.519 --> 00:02:04.400 and things that they use. 34 00:02:04.439 --> 00:02:06.319 We've talked about the Thula society. 35 00:02:06.400 --> 00:02:11.520 But you know, in reality, Hitler's witchcraft and his search 36 00:02:11.599 --> 00:02:14.039 for the ancient Aryan race and all these things. Right, 37 00:02:14.159 --> 00:02:16.039 I'm taking the pg's office a matter of fact, got 38 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:16.800 some reading a dude. 39 00:02:16.879 --> 00:02:17.759 Night, ladies and gentlemen. 40 00:02:18.719 --> 00:02:22.759 What if I told you that all of these occult practices, 41 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:27.439 this dark magic, this witchcraft, these pagan principles that they 42 00:02:27.599 --> 00:02:30.879 tried to put into the German Zeitgeist, What if I 43 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:32.960 told you that this wasn't just a. 44 00:02:32.919 --> 00:02:35.879 Metaphorical thing that they just said just to say. 45 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:39.159 What if I told you that Adolf Hitler slept with 46 00:02:39.240 --> 00:02:42.759 a certain book at his bedside. The book was a 47 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:48.439 parapsychology tome named Magic with a K. And in this 48 00:02:48.479 --> 00:02:53.919 book there was specific sentences underlined. Uh For example, one 49 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:59.280 of the underlying sentences from this book, Satan is the fertilizing, destroying, 50 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:06.479 constructing warrior. Okay, here's another direct quote underlined by Adolph himself. 51 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:10.280 He who does not carry demonic seeds within him will 52 00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:12.319 never give birth to a new world. 53 00:03:14.400 --> 00:03:17.039 Can I ask you something though, like getting into all 54 00:03:17.120 --> 00:03:19.199 this kind of stuff, I would never I'm not trying 55 00:03:19.240 --> 00:03:21.759 to be that guy who sticks up for fucking Hitler 56 00:03:21.919 --> 00:03:24.800 or anything that's as any, but just I like to 57 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:27.879 try and get into the psychology of that kind of 58 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:31.080 like demented mind because it's it's kind of fun really. 59 00:03:32.199 --> 00:03:37.520 But so we know that, you know, his painting the ass, 60 00:03:38.120 --> 00:03:40.800 not necessarily paying the ass, like his his deal with 61 00:03:40.840 --> 00:03:43.000 the Jews, he saw them as a pain in the ass, 62 00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:43.719 so to say. 63 00:03:43.599 --> 00:03:47.520 Right, he had a bit of an issue with them. Yeah. 64 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:51.599 Now, if let's just say, let's say he's one of 65 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:55.039 those guys who was, you know what, just trying to 66 00:03:55.039 --> 00:03:59.000 be the boogeyman all the time to do like to 67 00:03:59.719 --> 00:04:03.479 to the opponent to literally everything. You know, those people 68 00:04:03.719 --> 00:04:08.120 the contrarian, the contrarian that is always against everything that 69 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:10.080 you got to say, even if they don't believe it. 70 00:04:10.120 --> 00:04:13.520 But they're making like, you know, like a devilish point, 71 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:16.319 so to say, right, and it does make me wonder 72 00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:18.639 if he's over there trying to deal with the Jews, 73 00:04:18.759 --> 00:04:21.879 Oh well you're Jewish. Huh. Well, here calls big bad 74 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:22.920 Satan kind of. 75 00:04:22.839 --> 00:04:24.759 Guy, and that's fair. 76 00:04:25.399 --> 00:04:27.279 And so that's my point, right, That's kind of what 77 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:30.480 led me down this rabbit hole. We've talked about certain 78 00:04:30.519 --> 00:04:33.199 things that certain members of the Nazi Party believed, but 79 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:36.040 that doesn't mean all Nazis believed it. We talked about 80 00:04:36.319 --> 00:04:39.720 certain occult practices that Hitler may have used from time 81 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:42.439 to time and symbolism, but that doesn't mean he necessarily 82 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:43.319 took those to heart. 83 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:45.639 Right, he might have been just riding the wave and 84 00:04:45.680 --> 00:04:46.360 all these things. 85 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:50.480 And so when I found that out that he actually 86 00:04:50.519 --> 00:04:54.040 read this book religiously Magic with a K, and that 87 00:04:54.199 --> 00:04:57.279 he underlined certain passages in that book, and that book 88 00:04:57.279 --> 00:05:00.240 has been recovered in these at least were two of 89 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:03.680 these sentences that he underlined as something important to keep 90 00:05:03.680 --> 00:05:06.560 in mind. Now, that led me to go down that 91 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:10.120 rabbit hole of like, Okay, it doesn't take a lot 92 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:12.879 of math to see that what Hitler was doing was 93 00:05:13.000 --> 00:05:18.199 evil inspired. I think pretty much that's an understood universal truth. 94 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:21.120 Whether you believe that the Jews are controlling the world 95 00:05:21.120 --> 00:05:23.800 banks or not. Yeo yo yo yo yo, pause, pause, pause. 96 00:05:24.199 --> 00:05:26.839 I'm pretty sure that everybody can acknowledge that the mass 97 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:30.600 murder of millions of people is a net negative. 98 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:34.439 Right right, right. You know what, where I question, I 99 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:38.319 always question history. Don't fry me for questioning fucking Nazi Germany. 100 00:05:38.360 --> 00:05:40.079 I'm not one of those people that are looking at 101 00:05:40.120 --> 00:05:43.199 the numbers and you know, like shit like that. I'm 102 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:44.879 not gonna call that out because I really haven't looked 103 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:46.879 into it. And to be honest, what is there to 104 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:49.480 gain by looking into that kind of stuff, especially whenever 105 00:05:49.519 --> 00:05:51.920 you're half your crowd just you know, half the people 106 00:05:51.959 --> 00:05:54.160 listening are just going to cancel you. But I did 107 00:05:54.199 --> 00:05:55.519 find something, deniers. 108 00:05:55.800 --> 00:05:58.720 It's wild, Like yo, It's not a good thing to 109 00:05:58.879 --> 00:05:59.439 just go. 110 00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:02.319 On about, right right, It's like sticking up for a rapist. 111 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:05.279 Nobody's gonna do that. But like, just you know what, 112 00:06:05.399 --> 00:06:07.560 there is something though that I did find out there 113 00:06:07.639 --> 00:06:13.120 was pretty pretty wild, especially whenever you hear about certain 114 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:15.240 countries that we go to war with and then you 115 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:18.199 find out, well, you know, we went to war with 116 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:20.879 them because they were trying to kind of like make 117 00:06:20.920 --> 00:06:22.120 their own banking system. 118 00:06:22.839 --> 00:06:25.000 Right, Oh, it's I'm a goadafi. Right, he tried going 119 00:06:25.040 --> 00:06:26.720 on the gold standard and he got. 120 00:06:26.560 --> 00:06:30.839 Got right well from the stuff that I've seen, I 121 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:34.560 haven't you know, fact checked it by any means. But 122 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:38.360 I was looking into Hitler and you know, especially how 123 00:06:38.360 --> 00:06:42.720 they're coming after like a lot of people who we 124 00:06:42.839 --> 00:06:45.680 may be a fan of, they'll say that he's literally Hitler, 125 00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:48.079 and I'm like, okay, well he's literally not Hitler when 126 00:06:48.079 --> 00:06:51.959 we're talking about Trump. So I wonder if that's something 127 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:55.240 that they did to you know, I know that there's 128 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:58.160 still like surviving Jews with the tattoos and all that stuff. 129 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:01.240 I'm not saying that. But what I found was is 130 00:07:01.279 --> 00:07:06.560 that supposedly he was like Germany was becoming one of 131 00:07:06.600 --> 00:07:08.600 the it was like one of the world's superpowers at 132 00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:12.000 a certain point, and they were able to they didn't 133 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:14.680 necessarily need the banking system. They were able to grow 134 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:18.680 and produce, and you know, they weren't necessarily requiring, you know, 135 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:21.480 importing any kind of goods from any other country. They 136 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:24.519 were completely sufficient World War One, right, Well, they were 137 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:28.519 completely self sufficient, I guess under Hitler. And one thing 138 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:31.240 that I also found out was is that whenever Hitler 139 00:07:31.279 --> 00:07:37.079 came into power, the homeless community got completely wiped away, 140 00:07:37.319 --> 00:07:39.000 like there was nobody. 141 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:39.199 They were dead. 142 00:07:39.480 --> 00:07:41.680 No, no, no, no, well, I mean they were killed. The 143 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:43.279 Jews were, yes, I'm not. 144 00:07:43.199 --> 00:07:46.720 The homeless community were also just gunned down. They they 145 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:47.839 just disappeared. 146 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:50.759 Yeah, is that documented or is that a guess? 147 00:07:51.680 --> 00:07:56.480 No, that's understood, Like, yo, they euthanized the mentally handicapped, 148 00:07:56.480 --> 00:07:58.560 like if you had a down syndrome kid, that kid 149 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:00.519 got got in the streets like that was the way 150 00:08:00.519 --> 00:08:03.040 it was for the Fatherland of course. 151 00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:05.839 Oh all right, well, I guess I'm just retarded to see. 152 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:08.399 That's why I prefaced it with. I didn't fact check 153 00:08:08.439 --> 00:08:11.319 any of it, but I didn't notice that it could. 154 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:13.560 That's why I always like to look at both sides 155 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:15.240 on this kind of shit, not to say, oh, I 156 00:08:15.279 --> 00:08:17.160 believe this, I believe that. It's like, no, I want 157 00:08:17.160 --> 00:08:19.680 to be fully informed whenever I'm learning about this kind 158 00:08:19.720 --> 00:08:20.120 of stuff. 159 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:23.160 Okay, So with that in mind, right, because that's where 160 00:08:23.160 --> 00:08:25.480 I was, I'm like, hold on, I know that Hitler 161 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:28.319 was on some shit, but to have in your book 162 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:33.320 Satan is the fertilizing, destroying, constructing warrior, and this whole 163 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:36.320 thing about if you don't carry demonic seeds within you, 164 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:38.600 you'll never give birth to a new world. I'm like, 165 00:08:38.639 --> 00:08:42.320 all right, hold on now, yo, Your boy Adolf grew 166 00:08:42.440 --> 00:08:46.039 up in Germany, and from what we can tell, he 167 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:52.360 had a relatively normal ish childhood and upbringing for a 168 00:08:52.519 --> 00:08:54.120 German of that time period. 169 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:56.320 But he was also kind of a pussy as a kid, though, 170 00:08:56.360 --> 00:08:58.240 wasn't he Like, he was real into art and he 171 00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:01.440 was basically a fairy and and it was just like, 172 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:03.840 you know, so maybe he saw it as well, look 173 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:07.360 at all these world leaders, they're obviously into some you know, 174 00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:13.360 some meaner kind of possibly a called kind of leadership. 175 00:09:13.679 --> 00:09:15.799 And maybe that was what he was trying to say. Again, 176 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:16.879 I'm playing contrarian. 177 00:09:17.000 --> 00:09:21.919 I don't know, because that was my whole thing, right, Hitler, 178 00:09:21.960 --> 00:09:25.240 Adolph Hitler grew up a relatively normal kid. Yeah, he 179 00:09:25.279 --> 00:09:28.080 was an art student, sure, a failed art student that 180 00:09:28.200 --> 00:09:29.919 and trust me, that comes into play here in a bit. 181 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:35.519 But we know for sure that he at least dabbled 182 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:39.679 in the occult, at least for a slight period of time. 183 00:09:40.240 --> 00:09:43.200 And even if he made and he disavowed it towards 184 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:46.720 the end of the war and understood. Fine, Okay, he 185 00:09:47.320 --> 00:09:50.720 started shitting on these people who are still looking for 186 00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:54.679 the Holy Grail towards the end, But at one point 187 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:58.120 in time he was doing and saying and moving in 188 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:02.080 a different fashion. Okay, So how did this failed art 189 00:10:02.159 --> 00:10:09.080 student in normal Germany become this guy? So all the 190 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:12.799 way up until the fact that even in his speeches 191 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:17.919 they were orated with his body movements being certain things. 192 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:22.159 All of his body movements and gestures were occult sigils. 193 00:10:22.519 --> 00:10:22.960 Okay. 194 00:10:23.240 --> 00:10:27.159 Then, also, why do Nazi officers why did they do this? 195 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:31.440 Why did they send psychics to concentration camps only to 196 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:35.759 pull them out again for remote viewing in naval warfare 197 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:38.759 against the British. And also, while we're on the topic 198 00:10:38.799 --> 00:10:42.240 of asking weird questions, how and why did the quote 199 00:10:42.320 --> 00:10:46.440 unquote Aryan term get associated with the blonde hair, blue 200 00:10:46.440 --> 00:10:51.000 eyes when they're Persian? And you know, also, while we're 201 00:10:51.039 --> 00:10:56.039 onto that, why do the Soviets the KGB, why do 202 00:10:56.200 --> 00:11:01.919 they have a document showing an entrance into hollow Earth 203 00:11:02.039 --> 00:11:06.279 via submarine with coordinates and directions and all of this shit? 204 00:11:08.159 --> 00:11:10.399 Buckle up, y'all, we're gonna be taking a little bit 205 00:11:10.440 --> 00:11:14.519 of an occultish ride before we do that, Jonathan, all 206 00:11:14.559 --> 00:11:17.480 of these things, I swear to God, all of these 207 00:11:17.480 --> 00:11:22.720 things tie into Nazi occultism and directly to Hitler before 208 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:24.039 we begin, What are your. 209 00:11:23.879 --> 00:11:30.440 Thoughts, I'm uh oh. I love looking into the occult. 210 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:32.879 I love looking into witchcraft and magic and all this 211 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:36.240 kind of stuff. That being said, I don't necessarily look 212 00:11:36.279 --> 00:11:40.600 into black magic. I don't look into the darkers. I 213 00:11:40.679 --> 00:11:43.799 definitely don't look into satanic shit because first off, I 214 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:46.600 think it's a fucking joke, and secondly, I think the 215 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:49.159 people that are doing it are doing it because it's 216 00:11:49.320 --> 00:11:51.759 just like a corrupt politician. To me, how I look 217 00:11:51.799 --> 00:11:54.360 at it, because you're doing it for personal gain. It 218 00:11:54.399 --> 00:11:56.399 has nothing to do with the world or your family 219 00:11:56.480 --> 00:11:58.080 or your kids, you know, you know what I mean, 220 00:11:58.120 --> 00:12:02.639 it's it's for your own personal power. And that's is 221 00:12:02.679 --> 00:12:05.279 that not what a fucking politician does on a daily basis, 222 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:07.879 just use their fucking word magic to convince everybody that 223 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:10.559 they're here for the good, and then they actually get 224 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:13.519 into their position and they don't actually implement any of 225 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:14.879 the shit that they were talking about. 226 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:17.600 I mean, that's fair. 227 00:12:17.720 --> 00:12:18.639 That's fucking magic to me. 228 00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:22.480 True. And again this is not. 229 00:12:25.039 --> 00:12:29.559 This is not throwing out all of magic or all 230 00:12:29.600 --> 00:12:31.840 of the occult or all of whatever. 231 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:32.639 Listen, listen. 232 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:36.759 This is gonna start off in a relatively okay place. 233 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:41.200 It gets turned very quickly into a not okay thing. 234 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:44.159 And trust me, it'll be very obvious when it makes 235 00:12:44.200 --> 00:12:45.080 that left hand turn. 236 00:12:45.360 --> 00:12:46.440 You feel me, Oh yeah. 237 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:49.360 As soon as you start implementing sacrifice, which that's what 238 00:12:49.399 --> 00:12:52.759 Holocaust means, is a burnt sacrifice, I'm off board. I 239 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:54.399 don't want nothing to do, nothing to do with it. 240 00:12:54.440 --> 00:12:56.399 I don't care if you're sacrificing a lamb, a goat, 241 00:12:56.480 --> 00:13:00.320 a sheep, a cow, a person, a baby, whatever. Like, 242 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:03.960 I'm totally against all sacrifice for any kind of witchcraft 243 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:06.039 or magical means. Just so everybody knows. 244 00:13:06.879 --> 00:13:07.879 Fair enough, fair enough. 245 00:13:07.879 --> 00:13:11.000 And that's a whole discussion in and of itself, right, 246 00:13:11.159 --> 00:13:11.639 no doubt. 247 00:13:12.320 --> 00:13:13.200 But now, all right. 248 00:13:14.039 --> 00:13:17.000 When Hitler rose to power and he was spitting this 249 00:13:17.240 --> 00:13:20.440 rhetoric about this Arian race and all this shit, the 250 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:24.639 German people like latched onto it, which struck me as 251 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:29.000 odd because when I think of medieval Germany, I think 252 00:13:29.080 --> 00:13:32.840 of Christianity in a nutshell. Yes, you could argue about 253 00:13:32.919 --> 00:13:35.159 was it the Catholic Church, was it the Lutheran faith? 254 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:38.759 Was it you know, to which realm? But as a 255 00:13:38.919 --> 00:13:43.759 as a whole pretty much ever since Rome took over Gaul, right, 256 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:46.039 and then when later on in the Roman Empire fell, 257 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:48.799 and then it was later Christianized all these things. When 258 00:13:48.840 --> 00:13:53.000 I think of like, ye old Germany, these old Bavarian towns, 259 00:13:53.039 --> 00:13:57.559 for some reason, I get a overrewhelming christian esque vibe. 260 00:13:58.600 --> 00:13:59.200 Am I wrong with that? 261 00:13:59.240 --> 00:14:01.120 When I think of a dude and I'm thinking he's 262 00:14:01.159 --> 00:14:03.759 probably gonna be making it to Mass on Sunday morning. 263 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:06.919 Right, Yeah, I guess so, I mean it seems pretty 264 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:13.600 uh communally, you know, traditionally sets out Yeah, yeah yeah. 265 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:18.440 So how did Germany even get started into like dabbling 266 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:20.440 into the occult as a nation? 267 00:14:21.159 --> 00:14:21.399 Right? 268 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:25.200 They were predominantly a Christian nation. So how did these 269 00:14:25.360 --> 00:14:29.000 neopagan practices make their way into the German government in 270 00:14:29.000 --> 00:14:29.960 the nineteen thirties. 271 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:32.200 Was this all because one dude at the. 272 00:14:32.159 --> 00:14:34.320 Top was just kind of into this shit, therefore the 273 00:14:34.480 --> 00:14:38.240 nation was into this shit? Or was there something a 274 00:14:38.279 --> 00:14:40.159 little more culturally deeper there? 275 00:14:40.480 --> 00:14:40.679 Right? 276 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:44.159 So This was confirmed further by one of the Nazi 277 00:14:44.240 --> 00:14:47.480 chief ideologists, Alfred Rosenberg put a pin in him. We 278 00:14:47.559 --> 00:14:50.320 will be talking about him later, but he said, and 279 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:54.360 I'm paraphrasing here, that occultism helped unify the German people 280 00:14:54.480 --> 00:14:58.320 under a new one German ideology. 281 00:14:59.159 --> 00:14:59.480 Okay. 282 00:14:59.559 --> 00:15:03.919 So basically they were not taken to Catholicism because that 283 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:08.200 was a Roman religion, and they weren't taken to this 284 00:15:08.399 --> 00:15:10.600 or that or whatever. They were trying to find their 285 00:15:10.639 --> 00:15:16.440 own new ideology, and not necessarily a mythology, but something 286 00:15:16.480 --> 00:15:19.600 that could be rooted in historical facts to prove their 287 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:23.320 blood lineage to the land itself. This is a whole thing. 288 00:15:23.960 --> 00:15:27.039 So it really took root in the late eighteen hundreds 289 00:15:27.039 --> 00:15:29.840 and early nineteen hundreds, when there was a lot of 290 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:33.840 esoteric writers blending new ideas and new concepts together. We've 291 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:36.840 talked about quite a handful of them on this program 292 00:15:36.960 --> 00:15:40.080 a time or two before now. During this time period 293 00:15:40.120 --> 00:15:43.279 in Europe late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds, turn of 294 00:15:43.279 --> 00:15:46.679 the century, the church quote unquote, and I don't just 295 00:15:46.759 --> 00:15:50.879 mean the Catholic Church, I mean more or less organized 296 00:15:51.039 --> 00:15:56.600 traditional religion. The church, okay, was being challenged by new 297 00:15:56.679 --> 00:16:01.440 theories like Darwinism and pseudoscience. In particular, who was who 298 00:16:01.480 --> 00:16:05.080 was challenging not necessarily not like outright challenging the Church, 299 00:16:05.600 --> 00:16:10.960 but was spearheading the thought in the cultural zeitgeist to 300 00:16:11.159 --> 00:16:13.840 question the narrative that we've been told our entire lives 301 00:16:13.879 --> 00:16:16.879 and for centuries and for thousands of years. Allegedly was 302 00:16:16.919 --> 00:16:20.360 this woman, a Russian woman named Helena Blavatsky. 303 00:16:20.840 --> 00:16:22.360 We've talked about her a time or two. 304 00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:24.759 She was a member of the Hermetic Order of the 305 00:16:24.759 --> 00:16:29.360 Golden Dawn, but left when her more Eastern ideas came 306 00:16:29.360 --> 00:16:34.039 into fruition, and she formed the Theosophical Society. She claimed 307 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:37.320 her revelations came to her while she was visiting a 308 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:40.559 monastery in Tibet and learning the secrets of the occult 309 00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:46.519 and uncovered the keys to enlightenment, and you know, all 310 00:16:46.600 --> 00:16:48.840 the things, all the things. She went to a Tibetan 311 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:53.639 monastery and developed the wisdom and all of these secret 312 00:16:53.759 --> 00:16:56.159 knowledges and all this stuff. Right, she claimed that there 313 00:16:56.279 --> 00:17:00.399 was still quote unquote masters on earth with all types 314 00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:03.840 of hidden wisdom. Certain groups took that line a little 315 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:07.039 too literally and then put racial masters. But We'll get 316 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:09.960 to them in a minute, I promise. She claimed that 317 00:17:10.039 --> 00:17:12.640 while she was in Tibet, she was taught an ancient, 318 00:17:12.880 --> 00:17:16.839 unknown language called Sinsar, which gave her the ability to 319 00:17:16.960 --> 00:17:20.039 read and translate a bunch of ancient texts that had 320 00:17:20.079 --> 00:17:23.759 since never been translated. She also claimed that the Tibetan 321 00:17:23.799 --> 00:17:27.839 monks helped her hone in and strengthen her psychic ability 322 00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:31.480 to manipulate people's minds and make them been to her will. 323 00:17:32.039 --> 00:17:36.759 She believed that she could have possessed she possessed psychic powers, 324 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:42.759 transferring her consciousness, making physical matter appear and reappear. She 325 00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:45.359 was able to be in two places at once. Now 326 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:49.720 her society drew on all types of sources. Okay, there 327 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:52.400 was a little bit of Hinduism, a little Gnosticism, a 328 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:57.599 little Buddhism, some Western esotericism, some alchemy, and some Jewish 329 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:02.039 dark mysticism from the Kabbalah. So how did this society, 330 00:18:02.119 --> 00:18:06.599 the theosophical society which fine makeing a blending of a 331 00:18:06.599 --> 00:18:09.640 bunch of things that she's found in her travels, like dope. 332 00:18:09.880 --> 00:18:13.680 Cool sounds interesting, sounds like a world traveler trying to 333 00:18:13.720 --> 00:18:17.400 share some knowledge. Cool things, all right, So how did 334 00:18:17.400 --> 00:18:22.640 the Theosophical Society grow like it did in Germany? Right now, 335 00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:26.039 let's keep in mind that Germany was going what Germany 336 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:29.319 was going through during this time. Okay, now, entering the 337 00:18:29.400 --> 00:18:33.319 nineteen hundreds, they were eight proud people. Germany was kind 338 00:18:33.400 --> 00:18:36.839 of doing their thing, bro an industrial powerhouse as far. 339 00:18:36.759 --> 00:18:37.880 As Europe was concerned. 340 00:18:38.599 --> 00:18:42.920 Then World War One happened from nineteen fourteen to nineteen eighteen, 341 00:18:43.240 --> 00:18:48.720 the Kaiser falls, Germany is humiliated, and they stay they 342 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:52.079 stay that way until someone rises up with plans and 343 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:55.559 jobs and promises and you know, all of these things 344 00:18:55.599 --> 00:18:59.920 to restore Germany to its rightful power. The Theosophical Society 345 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:02.640 grew in Germany slowly at first, with a membership of 346 00:19:02.759 --> 00:19:07.079 three hundred and seventy seven in nineteen oh five. This 347 00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:11.000 grew to thirty seven hundred and two in nineteen thirteen. Okay, 348 00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:14.119 so they went from just under four hundred to just 349 00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:19.440 over thirty seven hundred in twelve years, Okay, which that's fair. 350 00:19:19.480 --> 00:19:22.599 This is a small society, you know, it is what 351 00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:27.079 it is. But that's not no growth. That's pretty solid. 352 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:29.839 And at that point you have very dedicated people who 353 00:19:29.839 --> 00:19:31.559 are within your realm. You know what I mean, And 354 00:19:31.559 --> 00:19:35.880 that's who who doesn't want dedicated members to their group, right. 355 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:39.799 Like our good cult members? Maybe with that third eye 356 00:19:39.799 --> 00:19:40.440 all the way open. 357 00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:44.960 Now, it is widely accepted that Adolph Hitler was influenced 358 00:19:45.039 --> 00:19:48.079 at this time by this group. Now, while he may 359 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:50.079 not have been a member at this time, he was 360 00:19:50.119 --> 00:19:53.960 living in Vienna and as a failing artist, and at 361 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:58.799 this time we can clearly see the esoteric excuse me 362 00:19:58.960 --> 00:20:01.599 to chain my page, You can clearly see the esoteric 363 00:20:01.640 --> 00:20:08.720 symbolism used by the group in literally all Nazi symbols, sigils, ceremonies, colors, ethos. 364 00:20:08.920 --> 00:20:12.880 The list goes on and on. Okay, but there reports 365 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:16.240 that while he was staying at a hostel, he meets 366 00:20:16.319 --> 00:20:21.079 and befriends a guy named Joseph Garner or Griner. Excuse me, 367 00:20:21.480 --> 00:20:24.039 not sure if it's Joseph or Joseph. I don't know 368 00:20:24.519 --> 00:20:28.680 which one is the more correct Austrian pronunciation, So you know, 369 00:20:28.720 --> 00:20:30.240 I'm just gonna call him Joseph Griner. 370 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:30.640 Okay. 371 00:20:31.559 --> 00:20:36.240 Now, apparently Griner showed Adolph certain magical practices to be 372 00:20:36.319 --> 00:20:40.200 able to control people. Now there's a story that he 373 00:20:40.279 --> 00:20:43.160 was able to make something levitate and that that was 374 00:20:43.200 --> 00:20:45.880 like all the proof Hitler needed to believe in the occult. 375 00:20:46.160 --> 00:20:47.559 I don't know if that's true or not. 376 00:20:48.119 --> 00:20:50.480 What I do believe is something more along the lines 377 00:20:50.519 --> 00:20:54.000 of he was able to hypnotize somebody before Adolph's eyes. 378 00:20:54.799 --> 00:20:58.119 I could believe something more along those lines, which to 379 00:20:58.240 --> 00:21:01.200 a young Adolph, a struggling art student living in a 380 00:21:01.240 --> 00:21:04.720 free hostel for the homeless and all of this, that 381 00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:07.440 was fucking magic as far as he was concerned, I 382 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:08.559 could see that being real too. 383 00:21:08.640 --> 00:21:13.359 To be fair, as a hypnosis guy, I know hypnosis obviously, 384 00:21:13.440 --> 00:21:15.039 you know, I do the past live aggression and shit 385 00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:18.519 like that. But it's really not that hard to hypnotize somebody. 386 00:21:18.559 --> 00:21:23.359 Bro Like, it's actually like surprisingly easy to hypnotize somebody. 387 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:26.039 Right, And so that's what I'm saying. 388 00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:27.559 You got a guy who's got a little bit of 389 00:21:27.599 --> 00:21:31.480 that kind of hidden knowledge, which tell me that's not 390 00:21:31.519 --> 00:21:32.720 a type of hidden knowledge. 391 00:21:33.039 --> 00:21:36.200 Damn, I just got weird deja vu? That was weird? Anyway, 392 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:39.319 Would you say that that's hidden knowledge? Is as far 393 00:21:39.359 --> 00:21:40.759 as hypnosis goes, You mean. 394 00:21:41.319 --> 00:21:44.759 Yeah, it's not necessarily hidden. Anybody could look something up online. 395 00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:47.000 But up until the mention of the internet. You would 396 00:21:47.039 --> 00:21:48.799 have to know where to look in your library. You 397 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:50.599 would have to know where to look to go, get 398 00:21:50.599 --> 00:21:52.720 the coaching to do this stuff, to know what to 399 00:21:52.720 --> 00:21:53.720 say and how to say it. 400 00:21:54.279 --> 00:21:54.920 You see what I'm mean. 401 00:21:54.960 --> 00:21:59.279 It's that used to be what could arguably be classified 402 00:21:59.319 --> 00:22:04.559 as like hidden pseudoscience forbidden knowledge type things. 403 00:22:05.160 --> 00:22:07.960 Sure, yeah, I mean that that was some kind of 404 00:22:08.359 --> 00:22:12.640 mystery school kind of shit for sure. But to be fair, 405 00:22:12.759 --> 00:22:14.880 that's you know, if you were into the occult, you 406 00:22:14.880 --> 00:22:18.599 were probably very aware aware of hypnosis. That's that's probably 407 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:20.319 one of the first things you learn in the occult 408 00:22:20.319 --> 00:22:21.759 is hypnosis, or at least of it. 409 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:24.920 That's kind of why I think that that was more 410 00:22:24.920 --> 00:22:27.559 of the shock and all thing that got young ad 411 00:22:27.640 --> 00:22:30.960 Off interested in the occult and also to me, why're 412 00:22:31.160 --> 00:22:33.880 making something levitate, which hey, maybe he did that shit too, 413 00:22:33.960 --> 00:22:34.480 I don't know. 414 00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:35.160 Well. 415 00:22:35.240 --> 00:22:37.880 Also, to be fair, like those street magicians, in those 416 00:22:37.920 --> 00:22:43.119 street like hypnosis people, there's a lot of plants going 417 00:22:43.160 --> 00:22:46.440 on there. And that's why whenever people whenever I hypnotize somebody, 418 00:22:46.440 --> 00:22:48.519 they're like, oh, that's not how I thought it would be. 419 00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:50.680 And it's like, yeah, because you've seen a lot of 420 00:22:50.680 --> 00:22:53.920 the fake like show kind of hypnosis shit like nobody 421 00:22:53.960 --> 00:22:56.680 is willingly going to or I'm sorry, nobody is going 422 00:22:56.680 --> 00:23:00.000 to unwillingly bark like a dog, you know what I mean. 423 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:02.039 And that's not going to happen under hypnosis. 424 00:23:02.279 --> 00:23:06.079 It's a lot of plants and a lot of bullshit 425 00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:09.039 and a lot of lights, camera action. Which that's the point. 426 00:23:09.119 --> 00:23:12.559 It's the show, it's the slide of hand. It's for 427 00:23:12.640 --> 00:23:16.440 the image. But this guy was talking about using it 428 00:23:16.519 --> 00:23:20.240 for real, practical purposes, and Adolph looked at this and 429 00:23:20.319 --> 00:23:22.960 was like, hold on, I could use this to control people, 430 00:23:23.759 --> 00:23:27.279 Like that's a real thing that I could do, And 431 00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:33.400 so he kind of got intoxicated on this, according to 432 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:36.559 the story by Joseph Griner, and he would later go 433 00:23:36.599 --> 00:23:40.920 on to blend these practices with his racist ideologies. Now, 434 00:23:41.839 --> 00:23:46.680 Grinder's claims are highly contested. Although I went down the 435 00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:48.680 rabbit hole of the people that were hating on him, 436 00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:51.240 because y'all know me, I'm all about my fact checking, 437 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:54.119 and I have to say that while a lot of 438 00:23:54.160 --> 00:23:57.960 his claims have been proven to be outright lies, as 439 00:23:58.000 --> 00:24:00.400 far as the story of how him and Adolph each 440 00:24:00.400 --> 00:24:03.880 other and to what regard, I have to say that 441 00:24:04.039 --> 00:24:07.759 there is in fact that kernel of truth that does 442 00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:10.920 line up. It's it is in fact just a flicker 443 00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:12.759 of a flame. But it is still the flicker. 444 00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:14.880 So why would you have to go on and lie 445 00:24:14.920 --> 00:24:18.319 about the rest of the story if his relationship with 446 00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:19.839 Hitler was actually real? 447 00:24:20.759 --> 00:24:22.640 He lied about a couple of dates. 448 00:24:23.119 --> 00:24:25.279 He lied about a couple of years where certain events 449 00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:29.720 took place and in certain locations and like certain people 450 00:24:29.759 --> 00:24:33.440 that were there, and like because of these things, people 451 00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:35.960 are like, oh, boom, outright lies. How could you have 452 00:24:35.960 --> 00:24:38.079 been there in nineteen seventeen when he wasn't even in 453 00:24:38.119 --> 00:24:40.279 the country at that time? But ba but and it's like, 454 00:24:40.279 --> 00:24:43.640 all right, yes, fine, as far as like trying to 455 00:24:43.680 --> 00:24:46.640 find this guy to be full of shit, all right, 456 00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:49.960 I see where you're going with this. However, as far 457 00:24:50.039 --> 00:24:53.599 as that story goes about how they met, why they met, 458 00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:56.200 the time and era that they were both in Vienna, 459 00:24:56.359 --> 00:25:00.200 and what this gentleman was into, that kernel of truth 460 00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:03.440 actually remains unbroken. 461 00:25:03.759 --> 00:25:04.759 That chain connects. 462 00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:08.720 So anyway, moving on, it's possible, not confirmed, but possible 463 00:25:08.759 --> 00:25:12.359 that Hitler was at least introduced to it that early, okay, 464 00:25:13.079 --> 00:25:14.240 And with that kernel. 465 00:25:13.920 --> 00:25:15.000 Of truth, it is possible. 466 00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:20.400 Like I said that Hitler was diving into astrology, numerology, hypnotism, 467 00:25:20.640 --> 00:25:25.519 and graphology, which he later actually went into. Which that's 468 00:25:25.559 --> 00:25:28.160 that thing where you could basically tell if someone's gay 469 00:25:28.200 --> 00:25:28.920 based off. 470 00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:31.000 Of their handwriting or not. It's a whole thing. 471 00:25:31.519 --> 00:25:35.000 But you know how Hitler felt about homosexuals, and apparently 472 00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:39.519 graphology was used like judging someone off of their handwriting 473 00:25:39.559 --> 00:25:43.519 whether they were too effeminate or not, therefore gay therefore 474 00:25:43.559 --> 00:25:44.240 should be gassed. 475 00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:46.400 It was a whole thing. We'll get to it. 476 00:25:47.640 --> 00:25:50.559 Okay, yeah, I never heard of that, but I guess 477 00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:51.599 it checks out. 478 00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:55.359 It's a part of occult practices as far as writing 479 00:25:55.440 --> 00:25:58.680 is concerned, because that's a big part of certain types 480 00:25:58.720 --> 00:26:03.119 of spell work. But when you take it to another regard, 481 00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:07.119 when you talk about feminine and masculine energy depending on 482 00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:09.200 the type of person that is writing, it into what 483 00:26:09.319 --> 00:26:13.400 gender they were born with based off it's that's my point. 484 00:26:13.599 --> 00:26:15.200 Okay, there's a thing there. 485 00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:18.279 But then certain parties took it and ran with it, 486 00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:21.759 and then blended that with racist and hate filled ideologies 487 00:26:21.799 --> 00:26:23.160 and it became this shit. 488 00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:24.359 You see what I mean? 489 00:26:25.039 --> 00:26:27.400 Okay, I mean, yeah, they were definitely played by a 490 00:26:27.400 --> 00:26:29.440 different set of rules back then, that's for sure. 491 00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:34.400 And Hitler actually confirmed this in a way because when 492 00:26:34.440 --> 00:26:37.960 it was time to give big speeches and influencing the 493 00:26:38.079 --> 00:26:42.480 masses was the goal, he turned to the Book of 494 00:26:42.599 --> 00:26:46.039 Magic again with the k Now keep in mind that 495 00:26:46.079 --> 00:26:48.880 the Catholic Church thought that he was actually possessed by 496 00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:49.480 a demon. 497 00:26:49.839 --> 00:26:51.680 But more on that later on. 498 00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:54.720 There was a whole thing where the Pope actually was 499 00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:58.359 trying to exercise him from Rome. But then later we 500 00:26:58.400 --> 00:27:01.079 found out there was actually back deal being made. Trust me, 501 00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:06.119 we're gonna get to it all anyway. Another documented influence 502 00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:10.079 on early Aidolf was a guy named Adolph Lands. Now 503 00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:13.720 he goes by a much longer German mystic name, but 504 00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:16.599 I'm not gonna lie to you. I don't speak German, 505 00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:19.440 and this dude was a massive piece of shit, so 506 00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:21.559 fuck him. I'm gonna use the name that he was 507 00:27:21.559 --> 00:27:25.000 given at his birth. Aid Off Lands homeboy was a 508 00:27:25.039 --> 00:27:29.200 Catholic monk for years, like over a decade, okay, and 509 00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:33.079 then started preaching new interpretations of the Bible. Started saying 510 00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:36.480 that the Old Testament was a warning against the breeding 511 00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:40.599 of the Aryan race, with the quote unquote pygmies. Dude 512 00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:43.920 then left the church saying that they were not teaching 513 00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:49.240 the quote unquote true Christianity. All right, And this guy 514 00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:52.400 was a pretty much a fucking nut job and basically 515 00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:56.200 started his own religion. He started this as a quote 516 00:27:56.240 --> 00:27:59.279 unquote new crusade against the lower races. 517 00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:02.160 It's called the Order of the New Templars. 518 00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:04.759 Jonathan, I'm gonna go ahead and share the screen at 519 00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:06.759 this time, and for anybody who would like to see 520 00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:10.240 the things that we will be discussing today rather than 521 00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:12.440 just hearing it, tell them where they can go. 522 00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:15.240 Well, you should know, but if you don't know, you 523 00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:17.279 can come over to Patreon dot com slash Cult of 524 00:28:17.319 --> 00:28:20.400 Conspiracy podcast or rockfin dot com slash Cult of Conspiracy. 525 00:28:20.440 --> 00:28:22.400 Both of those links are down in the show notes below. 526 00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:26.440 Every single Tuesday night at nine pm Central time, we 527 00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:28.599 are going live with all the good Cult members on 528 00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:30.440 the Third Eye all the way open to here. 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That would be the way to go. 560 00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:58.440 Absolutely absolutely now here we have the Order of New Templars. Okay, Now, 561 00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:02.440 the flag that you see right there, this would be 562 00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:07.720 arguably where Hitler got the image for the swastika. Okay, 563 00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:11.000 this was the first time that we see that image 564 00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:14.400 really being used in Germany in this new way, in 565 00:30:14.440 --> 00:30:18.279 this turn of the century. This guy down here, that's that. 566 00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:21.359 That's that lands homie right there. He was a Catholic priest. 567 00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:26.400 That's your Glens von Lieburn. I feel I don't even 568 00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:29.119 fucking know how to pronounce that bullshit. 569 00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:31.640 I wonder why there's a bunch of Florida leeze around that, uh, 570 00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:33.680 around that swastika. 571 00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:38.160 So they're lilies, right, So Florida ly is fringe for flower, 572 00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:41.400 the lily, like the lily flower, right, And so that's 573 00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:43.119 what the Florida le if you were to take it 574 00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:45.880 as a side cut, that's supposed to be a lily. 575 00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:50.880 Oh, so the Florida lee was used even before it 576 00:30:50.960 --> 00:30:53.960 was considered like a saint kind not obviously more than 577 00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:55.759 a saint thing. That's more of a new thing. But 578 00:30:56.920 --> 00:30:59.480 so it was. I don't know why you would implement 579 00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:03.079 Why would you implement a fucking lily if there's no 580 00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:04.119 real meaning behind it? 581 00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:09.279 Well, they actually have the meaning behind all of the symbols. Actually, shit, 582 00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:11.279 I just clicked the wrong thing, didn't I? 583 00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:12.440 Yeah, hold on. 584 00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:14.759 As a matter of fact, they talk about the goal 585 00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:16.160 was to symbolize the. 586 00:31:16.680 --> 00:31:21.960 Golden hold on. Dang it. 587 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:24.200 Okay, I had it up here. Oh here we go, 588 00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:27.640 the sin of one. The swastika was already popular symbol. 589 00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:32.200 H okay, never mind, Oh here we go. Their symbol 590 00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:33.920 was a yellow flag with the swastika in four to 591 00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:36.799 four the leaves. The gold background was to symbolize eternity, 592 00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:40.480 the lilies for racial purity, and the red swastika was 593 00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:42.759 the rising aryan hero ah. 594 00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:45.160 That racial purity. That's where you come in, come in 595 00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:45.960 with the arians. 596 00:31:46.079 --> 00:31:50.079 Huh, there it is, right, And so that pretty much 597 00:31:50.119 --> 00:31:52.759 you could see this dude was a massive piece of shit. 598 00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:53.960 He really was. 599 00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:58.240 But your boy lands clear. You could see here clearly 600 00:31:58.359 --> 00:32:02.200 Hitler got some some inspiration from this movement. Okay, it 601 00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:04.000 doesn't take much of a genius to see that one. 602 00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:08.440 So members of this group had to have blonde hair 603 00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:11.519 and blue eyes and small hands and small feet and 604 00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:15.160 big heads, and they were strict about this. Apparently that 605 00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:18.160 was the thing too, big heads, small hands, and small feet. 606 00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:20.400 I feel like you're calling me out right now. Bro. 607 00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:22.880 I got pretty small feet and small hands, and my 608 00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:25.359 head is I feel like a little bit larger than 609 00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:27.599 it should be, at least my forehead. It's a full 610 00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:30.079 on five head. For anybody that's here watching on Patreon, 611 00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:32.160 I mean, check that fucking thing out. You can project 612 00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:35.240 a whole movie on that motherfucker, dude, I mean. 613 00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:38.319 That's the whole thing. That is whole thing. Has your 614 00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:40.119 hairline always been like that or is that going back 615 00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:40.680 with age? 616 00:32:41.400 --> 00:32:44.000 I actually think that it's always been that way, Like 617 00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:46.000 looking back at old pictures and shit, some people do. 618 00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:49.160 My son also terrible hairline. Yeah, and he's only two. 619 00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:52.720 I mean, it's not bad if it's gonna stay that 620 00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:55.160 height forever, you know what I mean, you're locked in there, 621 00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:56.160 you're good. 622 00:32:56.640 --> 00:32:58.400 Yeah, but yeah, I mean it doesn't seem to be 623 00:32:58.400 --> 00:32:59.720 falling out. I don't even have gray hair. 624 00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:03.480 Yet I got gray and the beer coming in, son 625 00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:04.759 and I'm loving it. 626 00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:06.480 Oh, I'm so excited for the salt and pepper. 627 00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:10.480 Yeah yeah, I mean I'm looking forward to it because 628 00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:13.000 you ever seen like blonde dudes with gray and their hairing, Dude, 629 00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:15.000 it looks pretty fast. I feel like it looks pretty 630 00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:18.759 bad ass, looks distinguished. Yeah, yeah, distinguished. I would say 631 00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:19.599 that's the term, sir. 632 00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:23.319 So anyway, like I was saying, these dudes were very 633 00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:25.960 strict about their Aryan lineage as well. Not just the 634 00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:28.480 way you looked, but you had to prove that you 635 00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:31.400 were like at least five or six generations up, pure 636 00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:36.200 blooded Aryan. It was all about that racial superiority. In 637 00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:39.400 nineteen oh five, your boy wrote a book where he 638 00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:42.599 advocated for the sterilization of the sick. He meant the 639 00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:47.319 mentally handicapped, the lower races, and forced labor for the 640 00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:52.240 castrated chandles. What he meant by that was certain lower 641 00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:55.799 race beings that they would castraight and just use for 642 00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:59.960 manual labor literally as workhorses or slaves, just for that purpose. 643 00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:04.000 He goes on into a whole thing in this book 644 00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:07.160 about how Eve as an Adam and Eve. While she 645 00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:10.239 was in the Garden of Eden, she had babies with 646 00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:13.840 a demon. And that's like what spawned into the lower races. 647 00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:18.559 That's where all these other non white, non arian people 648 00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:22.800 came from, was from even her demon spawn. This is 649 00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:26.199 why quote a quote from this by the way, this 650 00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:31.119 is why blonde women are more attracted to dark men. Yes, 651 00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:36.760 that is something that apparently the German philosophers and psychopaths 652 00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:40.039 of the early nineteen hundreds, they just already knew that 653 00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:43.400 blonde women had a thing for darker complexed guys. 654 00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:46.960 The jokes right themselves. I swear to God. 655 00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:49.400 It's and that was I you know, the Catholic Church 656 00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:52.599 did that to this guy. He was a monk for 657 00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:56.519 ten years and then he went into this whole tear 658 00:34:56.599 --> 00:34:58.960 about how like, nah man, this ain't the way he 659 00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:02.719 preached nudism. Well, like the true Arians were nudists so 660 00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:05.880 that they could like more easily fuck women, and like 661 00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:09.440 the whole he was like he was on one dude. 662 00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:11.360 I mean, Adam and Eve were supposed to be nude. 663 00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:14.320 That's that was a point that he brought up a lot. 664 00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:19.840 So he started blending his Christian upbringing and teachings and 665 00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:21.920 all of that, as with his time with the Catholic 666 00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:26.920 Church and this new wave of racial superiority and aryan 667 00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:31.679 you know, hierarchy and ancient German philosophy. He blended all 668 00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:34.920 of that together to form this new religion, the Order 669 00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:38.639 of New Templars. Now in nineteen oh nine, Hitler is 670 00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:41.760 a young twenty year old and he starts avidly reading 671 00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:47.920 this monthly magazine called Ostara. Okay now, along with a 672 00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:50.400 lot of Hitler's cabinet in generals, by the way, like 673 00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:53.440 all of them were avid Ostar readers. At one point 674 00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:57.880 in time, Ostara was published by Adolph Lands. Hitler visited 675 00:35:57.960 --> 00:36:01.159 Lands in person that year nighteen know nine, and they 676 00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:04.880 actually developed a friendship. Now there's a whole story about 677 00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:07.719 like when he went and visited Lands. Uh, they met 678 00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:10.760 up and Lands like gave him two issues of the 679 00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:13.559 magazine and like signed them and like even paid for 680 00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:15.559 his cab fare back to the bus station or the 681 00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:19.239 train station wherever, and like they developed a friendship when 682 00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:24.480 they first met. Now he later says that this whole 683 00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:26.280 thing never happened, But we'll get to that in a bit, 684 00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:30.480 lands Like, I said, preached nudism. Nudism excuse me, for 685 00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:34.280 the purpose of easier access for Aran women. He took 686 00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:39.159 Bible verses and just uncreatively turned them racist, and by 687 00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:44.159 that I mean like, uh, love thy neighbor, and then 688 00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:47.559 he changed it to love thy neighbor if they're Rian. 689 00:36:48.679 --> 00:36:51.320 Like he just like took the entire Bible and just 690 00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:55.360 made it race as as fuck, like that, Jesus died 691 00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:58.239 for all sins of the white man, like it was. 692 00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:00.840 It was dumb shit like that that he just threw 693 00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:03.000 in the entire Bible and then released that as a 694 00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:03.559 new addition. 695 00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:09.199 Well okay, yeah, I mean I could make an argument, 696 00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:13.199 but please do sir. Well, I mean, if you really 697 00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:15.639 think about it, like, God's chosen people are the ones 698 00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:18.679 of Israel, They're the Jews. So this could have been 699 00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:22.000 like a clapback of saying like, you know, oh, well, 700 00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:24.360 you think that the perfect race and the perfect human 701 00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:27.760 and the in God's favorite people are of Jewish descent, 702 00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:31.320 They're from Israel and Palestine and places like that. Then 703 00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:34.159 he was probably trying to bastardize it as all Satanic 704 00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:38.280 people do and say, well, no, actually, we're God's chosen people, 705 00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:41.039 We're the perfect grace and shit like that. That's see 706 00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:43.599 what I'm saying, though, I feel like there's some every 707 00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:46.679 time somebody goes satanic, it's always a play on words 708 00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:48.840 with like it's the upside down of the of the 709 00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:50.000 of the Bible version. 710 00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:53.079 But you notice they always only go to the Old 711 00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:56.559 Testament because that's the answer. The New Testament is the 712 00:37:56.639 --> 00:38:00.239 answer to the Old Testament. Like how yeah, the old 713 00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:03.360 God in the old ways and then this new God 714 00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:06.440 with a new covenant that be Jesus, and the whole 715 00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:08.760 thing comes on and says, nah, yaw, I ain't about that. 716 00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:11.320 No where there's no Jews in Gentiles. That that's gone 717 00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:14.159 like that, that's thing of the past. There's only the 718 00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:16.320 right way and the other way. And that doesn't matter 719 00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:18.639 about where you were born or tribe or whatever. 720 00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:20.119 That that shit is out the window. 721 00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:24.519 People only take the Old Testament and then like twist 722 00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:25.360 that shit. 723 00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:27.559 Because like I get it, there's a lot of shit 724 00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:28.239 to twist there. 725 00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:32.719 Well. Sure, but they also weren't like incinerating regular Christians. 726 00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:34.159 It was mainly Jews right. 727 00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:38.559 Well, when they were incinerating quote unquote Christians, these people 728 00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:41.840 were Jews. Well that's not true. There was Gentiles. There 729 00:38:41.880 --> 00:38:44.840 was Greeks, you can go like Antioch. Yeah, there was. 730 00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:48.559 I mean, it wasn't just a Jewish movement. It started 731 00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:52.159 that way, but Rome saw it as like a real 732 00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:54.760 increasing like mystery cult for a while there. 733 00:38:56.079 --> 00:38:58.639 So the people that were in the Nazi camps, they 734 00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:02.639 were not just Jews, they were all religious types. 735 00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:06.519 Well there were Catholics that were eventually thrown in there 736 00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:13.119 as well, but primarily Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, communists. 737 00:39:14.920 --> 00:39:16.800 Yeah, it was about the size of it. 738 00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:20.280 I would feel I would feel a little pissed every 739 00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:23.519 time that, like the fucking Holocaust is brought up and 740 00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:26.719 the Jews are the only ones mentioned. It's like, well, 741 00:39:26.719 --> 00:39:29.079 what about the Gypsies, what about the Christians? What about 742 00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:30.880 the Catholics? And they're like, no, it's the Jews. 743 00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:35.320 The Jews got it the worst, but then the Gypsies 744 00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:38.480 got it right as bad, right behind them. The Masons 745 00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:40.960 didn't get it as bad because there wasn't as many 746 00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:42.079 of them to get after. 747 00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:46.079 I think when the time came there wasn't as many, 748 00:39:46.960 --> 00:39:47.480 Like there. 749 00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:50.000 Was a lot of Catholics that were fine and didn't 750 00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:52.639 even get brought in, but the Catholics that they get 751 00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:54.159 brought in were the ones that were like being loud 752 00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:57.360 about it and shit, we'll get to things, we'll get 753 00:39:57.400 --> 00:39:59.480 to things, but just keep in mind that this dude 754 00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:02.239 is just pretty mu took it and preached about this this 755 00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:06.639 great white savior, right, Adolf Lands was preaching about this 756 00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:09.800 great white savior that would come to restore the Aryan 757 00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:11.599 race to the seat of power. 758 00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:13.559 It was a whole thing that he did. 759 00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:20.320 Now Hitler unronically believed that he himself was that very 760 00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:25.880 messiah figure. Okay, now two interesting side points here. One, 761 00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:31.480 both Adolf Hitler and Adolph Lands were Jewish, even though 762 00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:33.679 they both went on and on about how the Jews 763 00:40:33.719 --> 00:40:37.079 were clearly the people that were like of Satanic birth 764 00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:40.559 and all these things. Hitler from his grandmother and Adolph 765 00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:45.400 Lands from literally his mother was Jewish, but like whatever, 766 00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:48.159 I guess you know, boy got mommy issues or whatever. 767 00:40:48.679 --> 00:40:52.280 And number two, when Hitler finally rose to power, he 768 00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:58.719 pretty much refused to acknowledge Lands even once, like completely 769 00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:01.519 pretended like he and never even knew each other. 770 00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:02.280 He took all the credit. 771 00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:05.679 Lansy didn't even take the credit, just like pretending like 772 00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:07.320 he's never even heard of Lands before. 773 00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:11.360 Hm. Okay, And like when people would even bring up, oh, 774 00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:11.920 have you heard of him? 775 00:41:11.960 --> 00:41:14.360 He's like, oh that No, I don't really know that guy. 776 00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:15.920 I don't know what you're talking about. Who what's he 777 00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:16.920 saying things about? 778 00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:17.119 What? 779 00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:21.199 It was like fucking crazy dude, And Adolf was Lance 780 00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:23.559 Lance is over here, like, bro, I put you on 781 00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:24.760 like I was. 782 00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:26.639 We were boys, like you came and met me. 783 00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:29.199 I gave you issues of Ostara and all this, and 784 00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:32.199 Hitler's like, I don't even like, nah, what are you 785 00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:32.599 talking about? 786 00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:34.920 Dude? It was fucking wild and petty. 787 00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:38.719 And so then later on in the nineteen twenties, one 788 00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:43.559 of these editions of the Ostara magazine, he wrote, Jacob Lanz, 789 00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:48.800 excuse me. Adolf LANs wrote, quote, one shall remember the 790 00:41:48.840 --> 00:41:54.320 swastika and fascist movements are basically offspring of the Ostara 791 00:41:54.840 --> 00:41:58.599 end quote. So basically he's saying, keep in mind y'all 792 00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:01.159 all this shit the Hitler and these Nazis are doing. 793 00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:04.039 I started that shit. That was a star and that 794 00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:08.239 was me. So once Hitler and Nazi Germany took over 795 00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:12.639 Austria where Adolph Lands was living, Hitler bans Lands's writing 796 00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:17.559 and adds O Star to the list of dangerous materials. Okay, 797 00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:20.199 So that that's kind of what you get for talking 798 00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:23.039 shit about the guy in charge at that time. Although 799 00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:25.760 to be honest, Adolph Lance kind of got shafted on 800 00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:29.239 that deal. But then later on in the grand scheme 801 00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:33.000 of things, he didn't. Dude, died in like the nineteen fifties, 802 00:42:33.519 --> 00:42:35.719 still as big a racist piece of shit as he 803 00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:39.239 was leading this Order of New Templars, this this religious 804 00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:43.679 cult of racial superiority, and like he didn't get brought 805 00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:47.159 in for Nazi war crimes. He wasn't a Nazi. He 806 00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:49.199 was a fucking cult leader. 807 00:42:50.440 --> 00:42:54.119 Yeah, I can imagine. I mean, typically cult leaders tend 808 00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:59.840 to ascend to Christom or you know, like higher dem 809 00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:03.280 mentional entity, dumb whatever you want to call it. You know, 810 00:43:03.400 --> 00:43:06.039 it's always like the people that are saying I'm the 811 00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:09.199 reincarnation of so and so. It's like, oh, that's that's 812 00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:12.760 pretty interesting, considering you know, your power over the people, 813 00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:15.239 and now you're sucking your own dick, you know, like 814 00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:20.199 that's yeah, that's unfortunately. I hate when that shit happens. Dude. 815 00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:23.440 It's so annoying, Like why can't you just be a reincarnate? 816 00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:25.519 Like why you gotta be a reincarnation of anybody just 817 00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:28.480 fucking be you. Why do you need that backstory? 818 00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:30.719 Yeah? I agree. 819 00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:34.119 But then, like I said, this dude, here he so 820 00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:40.599 he pretty much kickstarted what became Nazi ideology and then 821 00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:44.440 gets off scott free. And he still just kept spitting 822 00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:47.599 that rhetoric and being that piece of shit until the 823 00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:52.760 day he died peacefully in the nineteen fifties. That's that's 824 00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:55.480 fucking wild to me, dude. But I mean, like I said, 825 00:43:55.519 --> 00:43:57.199 I guess in the end he got the last laugh. 826 00:43:57.239 --> 00:43:59.800 Adolf Hitler might have like screwed him in the short term, 827 00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:02.239 but you know who really ended on top. 828 00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:03.679 I guess I don't know. I don't know. 829 00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:06.440 I mean, Hitler might have thought that like, oh, this 830 00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:09.960 guy knows magic, he knows the occult. I might just 831 00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:12.239 not want to fuck with him. That could have been 832 00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:12.559 a thing. 833 00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:14.400 Hmm. 834 00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:21.480 Yes, and no, because later on, let's also do this 835 00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:23.760 while we're talking about our boy lands here, and we're 836 00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:28.199 going to talk about other occult influences in Hitler. In 837 00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:30.719 Hitler's life, but not just in his early life, but 838 00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:33.679 in his professional career, in his political ideologies and his 839 00:44:33.920 --> 00:44:35.079 economic policies. 840 00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:36.639 We're going to go into all of that, I promise. 841 00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:39.679 But another dude that needs to be mentioned is Guido 842 00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:42.119 von list And yes that's really his name. 843 00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:43.800 Guido von list. 844 00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:48.920 He and Lance combined their racist ideologies with Helen Blovotsky's 845 00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:55.760 teachings to create a hybrid called ario ariosophy, the like 846 00:44:56.039 --> 00:44:59.079 the theosophical facility of society that she started. 847 00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:03.800 It was that for just arian okay, like that, I 848 00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:06.320 mean again, they like they lacked. 849 00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:09.719 Originality in all ways, so they just took a little 850 00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:12.239 bit of something they liked for one person and just 851 00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:14.559 twisted it for their own shit and just ran with it. 852 00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:17.480 And the people of Germany just kind. 853 00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:20.320 Of did what they did because like they kind of 854 00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:25.079 were without home and without hope. They were in the 855 00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:27.800 worst depression the world had ever seen up until that point. 856 00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:30.559 They had lost their religion, they had lost their identity, 857 00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:34.599 they were humiliated. So like, you got some shit that's 858 00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:38.559 like one hundred percent by Germany for Germany, Like I mean, I'll. 859 00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:40.360 Listen what you got. You see what I'm saying. It 860 00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:42.719 was a weird time and people kind of clung on 861 00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:43.079 to it. 862 00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:49.079 The word ariosofi ariosophy excuse me, literally translates to the 863 00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:53.000 wisdom of the Aryans, and it blended the theosophy and 864 00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:56.760 the Aryan ideologies even to the Arians that Blavotsky was 865 00:45:56.800 --> 00:46:00.639 speaking about in her writings. Okay, they they were people 866 00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:05.960 of Indo Persian origin. Lavotsky talked about the Aryan race 867 00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:10.920 quote unquote, she's talking about what is now currently modern 868 00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:17.639 day Iran, Pakistan and India. But like whatever, So from that, also, 869 00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:22.800 that word Aryan comes from the Sanskrit word area, meaning noble, 870 00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:30.280 the Sanskrit word So how and why did these blue eyed, 871 00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:35.119 blonde haired giants become associated with that group of people 872 00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:37.159 that look Persian as. 873 00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:39.000 Fuck, definitely not tall whites. 874 00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:42.199 It would be because of Guido von Liszt and your 875 00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:47.440 boy Adolf Lands. They are literally where that idea comes from. 876 00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:53.360 Hmm, okay, well yeah, they definitely made it a them 877 00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:54.920 thing they did. 878 00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:58.199 This group of Aryans, by the way, is commonly understood 879 00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:01.199 to be the quote unquote linguistic parent to most of 880 00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:04.079 human civilization, or at the very least, at the very 881 00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:08.480 least a like linguistic hub, because that is a traveling 882 00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:12.599 point between Africa, between Europe, between Asia between India. It 883 00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:16.760 is all connected through that spot. So to say that 884 00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:18.880 there's like a lot of languages that could call that 885 00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:21.800 a certain spawn point that makes a lot of sense, 886 00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:25.320 the same way that we think of the Phoenician language 887 00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:28.239 or the Babylonian and the Cuneiform and like all these things, 888 00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:30.679 you could see their references back to some sort of 889 00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:31.679 original source. 890 00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:34.239 So these things kind of made sense. 891 00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:38.599 The neo pagan, Germanic and Bavarian groups took that and 892 00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:43.679 added this Aryan people also for no reason, like at all, 893 00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:46.760 like they had nothing to go off of, to say, 894 00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:49.239 the blonde hair, blue eyed thing like that was out 895 00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:53.360 of thin air. They didn't find some document, they didn't 896 00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:58.079 find some lost Nordic saga. Nowhere did that come from 897 00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:01.679 other than like just these dudes. It's actually pretty interesting. 898 00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:05.639 But the Aryan race that they idolized was then in 899 00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:09.000 the cultural zeitgeist. And they did this by taking the 900 00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:12.519 term and applying it to pretty much northern Europe instead 901 00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:17.599 of Indo Asia or the Indo Persian region. So, I 902 00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:21.119 you know, they just said yep, that's here now and 903 00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:23.440 ran with it and started teaching it in schools, printing 904 00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:25.119 a bunch of books about it. 905 00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:26.119 It just got talked. 906 00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:29.679 About enough to where people believed it to be so. 907 00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:31.599 So man's just there's power and belief. People don't want 908 00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:33.679 to people don't want to believe that, but there absolutely 909 00:48:33.719 --> 00:48:35.719 is power and belief. And if you get enough people 910 00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:38.880 believe in then on it, and get enough people practicing it, 911 00:48:39.039 --> 00:48:42.119 then it's kind of at least a semi real thing. 912 00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:45.719 Absolutely, And that was the whole point here. 913 00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:48.360 He Hitler saw all of these things as a way 914 00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:51.599 to control the masses that at this moment were very vulnerable. 915 00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:53.119 They were very. 916 00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:58.440 Easily moldable and easily manipulated and easily controlled if he 917 00:48:58.559 --> 00:49:01.400 knew what to say and how to say it right. 918 00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:04.480 And so when these people started looking into this. 919 00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:10.599 They're quote unquote noble Nordic roots, this unbroken blood lineage. 920 00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:14.199 The German people were like descendants of this master race 921 00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:17.599 and all this they kind of got into it. Bro 922 00:49:18.039 --> 00:49:20.199 This is when the Nordic gods made their way into 923 00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:24.320 the zeitgeist. The blending is where the Nazi occultism got 924 00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:28.039 its signature flair. The ideology is also what was used 925 00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:32.519 to murder millions. Okay, so they they took the imagery, 926 00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:35.079 they took the symbolism, they made it into their own 927 00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:40.159 thing and then used it to do some very horrible things. Now, 928 00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:43.800 some Nazis truly and I don't mean like some fringe 929 00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:47.960 people in their mama's basement. No, no, no, Certain prominent members 930 00:49:48.159 --> 00:49:52.639 of the Nazi Party truly believed that the Arians were Atlantean. 931 00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:53.599 Okay. 932 00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:59.079 Some believed them to be alien descendants or alien deities 933 00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:02.639 of some type. Some truly believed that they lived in 934 00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:04.519 what we now call hollow Earth. 935 00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:08.920 Again, we will talk more on that later, but let's. 936 00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:11.679 Talk a little bit about these three top dogs that 937 00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:16.519 were rolling in Hitler's crew. Okay, Now, these three main 938 00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:20.320 contributing guys that were like influencers in Hitler's ear that 939 00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:26.079 also were super super super believers of the occult. Okay, 940 00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:31.360 there's a dude named Eckhart, a dude named Fader or Fetter, 941 00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:35.599 and Rosenberg that's the homeboy that we mentioned earlier. Now, 942 00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:38.400 like I said, all three of these dudes heavy believers 943 00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:42.199 in the occult. Now, Godfreed Fetter was an economist who 944 00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:48.159 influenced in whose influence shaped Hitler's economic policies. He fully 945 00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:51.880 believed that the Jewish banks were destroying the earth. Okay, Now, 946 00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:57.039 this is a occultist who is also an economist, and 947 00:50:57.159 --> 00:50:59.559 he was the dude that was telling Hitler how to 948 00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:02.159 use more and how to reshape the economy in a 949 00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:04.719 socialist way through. 950 00:51:04.679 --> 00:51:08.679 And four occult purposes. You see what I'm saying. And 951 00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:10.840 of course they had to have a boogeyman. They had 952 00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:11.559 to have a bad. 953 00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:13.760 Guy to point the finger at and boom Jewish bankers 954 00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:15.519 easy point A to point B. 955 00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:16.760 It's a that's a quick line. 956 00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:19.320 I mean, he's not one hundred percent wrong. 957 00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:22.519 All right, I get it. I get it that the 958 00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:25.480 Rothchilds are what they are. They're in the position they're in, 959 00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:28.760 and they've been there since before Hitler, and some would 960 00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:32.559 argue funded Hitler. But that's a talk for another day. Now, 961 00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:35.519 we had this dude named Eckert, Okay, Didrich Eckart. Now 962 00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:38.360 he was a playwright and a mentor to Adolf Hitler. 963 00:51:38.960 --> 00:51:41.760 Uh here's actually a dedication made to him at the 964 00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:45.400 end of mine kamff. Okay, he has called Hitler's quote 965 00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:46.920 unquote spiritual father. 966 00:51:48.159 --> 00:51:50.280 All right, let that one marinate for a minute. 967 00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:53.079 He actually is the one that made the introduction to 968 00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:56.400 yon Honsen Hanissen Holnston. 969 00:51:56.480 --> 00:51:57.039 I'm not sure. 970 00:51:57.400 --> 00:51:57.559 Now. 971 00:51:57.639 --> 00:51:59.159 Yon Honsen was. 972 00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:02.840 A clairvoyant that coach Hitler and how to give public 973 00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:05.400 speeches using occult practices. 974 00:52:05.880 --> 00:52:09.280 He was a magician who specialized in mind control for 975 00:52:09.360 --> 00:52:10.239 crowd domination. 976 00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:13.159 Now have you ever seen these pictures of Hitler like 977 00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:17.320 practicing these poses for giving speeches. There's like a thousand 978 00:52:17.400 --> 00:52:19.239 of them in sequential order of him, just like it 979 00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:20.599 looks like he's at a casting call. 980 00:52:21.239 --> 00:52:24.679 Yeah, I mean everybody knows like his certain stances and 981 00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:27.960 certain motions that he would make. It was very authoritative. 982 00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:31.920 But also I never knew that he was using you know, 983 00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:36.400 occult symbolism throughout his motions with his body. But that 984 00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:39.639 makes sense to me, So all right. 985 00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:42.239 I'll just I'll break it down real quick about those pictures. 986 00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:45.519 So there was like you could find like a thousand 987 00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:48.360 pictures of Adolph Hitler, and they're all him wearing like 988 00:52:48.400 --> 00:52:52.280 this black turtleneck. And I think that's where like the 989 00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:55.639 the Walgreens picture. 990 00:52:56.280 --> 00:52:57.880 Okay, I don't know why balloons just came up. That 991 00:52:57.920 --> 00:52:58.280 was weird. 992 00:52:58.719 --> 00:53:00.880 How like the picture of the black turtleneck in like 993 00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:04.039 the nineties pose that like was arguably started by this dude. 994 00:53:04.039 --> 00:53:07.480 But anyway, he basically went into a photo booth and 995 00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:13.159 was practicing different poses to see how they looked as 996 00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:15.679 compared to a certain point he'd be making in a speech, 997 00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:19.440 his handed this angle versus this angle, his face contorted 998 00:53:19.480 --> 00:53:22.519 in this way versus this way. And they did this 999 00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:26.960 for weeks and months, him and this dude yawn. They 1000 00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:32.119 perfected all of these speeches to be like geared and 1001 00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:37.199 engineered to get mind control out of it. Now we 1002 00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:40.880 have talked about body sigils before. What's that one where 1003 00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:43.039 the dude's got one hand raised and if you look 1004 00:53:43.079 --> 00:53:45.519 at it as compared to the pentagram, it's like the 1005 00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:46.719 earthline or some shit? 1006 00:53:46.840 --> 00:53:50.800 Are you talking about the Vitruvian Man? Might be the 1007 00:53:51.239 --> 00:53:53.320 famous painting by what was it by Da Vinci? The 1008 00:53:53.360 --> 00:53:54.880 Vitruvian Man, Well. 1009 00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:57.280 That too, Yeah, no, no, but there was We talked 1010 00:53:57.280 --> 00:53:59.840 about this once before. Actually maybe Brandon Kroll brought this 1011 00:53:59.920 --> 00:54:03.920 up up, where there was an image of somebody, a 1012 00:54:03.920 --> 00:54:05.800 picture that was taken and you could look at in 1013 00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:08.239 a cult book where you have a dude with his 1014 00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:11.079 hand raised like this, like this, like this, like this, 1015 00:54:11.280 --> 00:54:15.039 and then like this, and that makes the five pointed 1016 00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:17.360 star or the sixth depending on how you do it. 1017 00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:18.199 And all these things. 1018 00:54:18.119 --> 00:54:20.159 Oh yeah, Crowley was into that shit. That's why you 1019 00:54:20.199 --> 00:54:22.360 had that one picture like fucking whatever you do with 1020 00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:23.760 his hands up on his face like that. 1021 00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:27.880 Yes, yes, So they're saying that even the Nazi salute 1022 00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:31.000 was a symbol of that. That was a cult sigil 1023 00:54:31.320 --> 00:54:34.920 magic that people just took to mean something else, but 1024 00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:37.079 that was absolutely what it was. And then the German 1025 00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:40.360 people were already kind of dabbling into this new neopagan 1026 00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:42.320 way of thinking, so they were throwing that up because 1027 00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:44.000 they thought that was like a German thing to throw 1028 00:54:44.039 --> 00:54:48.400 that shit up, like, it was a whole mindset that 1029 00:54:48.480 --> 00:54:51.760 took place over Germany during this time. Man and Adolph 1030 00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:55.639 Hitler was doing it very strategically and very coached. 1031 00:54:55.880 --> 00:54:58.280 I mean, it's pretty fucking brilliant. If it's not so evil, 1032 00:54:58.519 --> 00:55:02.559 you gotta admit, like, that's that to be implementing sigils 1033 00:55:02.599 --> 00:55:06.199 while you're talking, dude, that is next level shit right there. 1034 00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:08.880 It really is, it really is. And then we watch 1035 00:55:08.960 --> 00:55:11.880 him these black and white videos of him like doing 1036 00:55:11.920 --> 00:55:14.920 these crazy gestures the whole time he's talking and like 1037 00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:19.360 all this shit. Then you look at how that lines 1038 00:55:19.480 --> 00:55:23.119 up to occult sigils, real things, not just his hand movements, 1039 00:55:23.639 --> 00:55:26.719 even the way his face was, how one eye was 1040 00:55:26.800 --> 00:55:27.920 more squinted than the other. 1041 00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:30.079 There's a whole breakdown that has been done. 1042 00:55:30.719 --> 00:55:35.559 Every speech start to finish was like choreographed, and he 1043 00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:37.679 had perfected it that well to where it could be 1044 00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:38.360 clocked like that. 1045 00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:39.239 It's wild. 1046 00:55:39.960 --> 00:55:42.559 Yeah, you could definitely tell that Hitler would be one 1047 00:55:42.599 --> 00:55:46.199 of those guys that was paying attention to uh choreography 1048 00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:47.280 in detail. 1049 00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:50.039 Well, I mean the failed art student brother. I mean, 1050 00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:51.320 what do you expect? 1051 00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:56.880 I mean, yeah, it's he was a He was a 1052 00:55:57.039 --> 00:56:00.440 colorful kind of guy. Yeah, to say the. 1053 00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:04.039 Plamboyants say, at least now we talk about our boy 1054 00:56:04.079 --> 00:56:07.000 Alfred Rosenberg. Believe that was the guy that I said 1055 00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:11.280 earlier that occultism literally helped unify Germany. He was a 1056 00:56:11.320 --> 00:56:14.679 principal ideologist of the Nazi party. He's the dude, like 1057 00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:18.800 I said from that quote earlier, he is a He's 1058 00:56:18.840 --> 00:56:21.400 the one that also this a new religion. Was a 1059 00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:25.039 prolific writer, and his book was the second best seller 1060 00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:28.920 in Germany, second only to Mime Kamf. Now that's what 1061 00:56:28.920 --> 00:56:30.960 I'm saying. He was all about the propaganda and getting 1062 00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:33.800 the word out. He wrote books after books after books 1063 00:56:34.159 --> 00:56:37.639 to back the claims and verify the claims, and get 1064 00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:40.000 the literature out for the kids to read in school, 1065 00:56:40.119 --> 00:56:43.000 all of these things to get the narrative going that 1066 00:56:43.079 --> 00:56:46.960 this is the truth, this is the way. Now, with 1067 00:56:47.079 --> 00:56:51.360 all that mind, we've talked about the Thule Society a 1068 00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:53.599 time or two, or tools Society. I'm not sure which 1069 00:56:53.639 --> 00:56:56.400 way is the correct way to pronounce it, but you know, 1070 00:56:56.960 --> 00:56:59.039 as we're talking about all of this, I think now 1071 00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:01.519 is a good time to bring it because Rosenberg was 1072 00:57:01.559 --> 00:57:03.719 also a part of this. As we see right here, 1073 00:57:03.760 --> 00:57:07.400 this Godfrey Fetter, this is the Alfred Rosenberg, Is that 1074 00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:09.960 Dietrich Eckhart. Okay, all of them were a member of 1075 00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:13.239 this society as well. So let's read a quick little 1076 00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:16.159 thing about off of wiki about this. Keep in mind, 1077 00:57:16.239 --> 00:57:18.880 this group started pretty much as soon as World War 1078 00:57:18.920 --> 00:57:22.000 One ended, and I don't think that was a coincidence either. 1079 00:57:22.119 --> 00:57:24.079 So let's go ahead and read a little bit. 1080 00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:28.280 The Thule Society, originally the Something in German which meant 1081 00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:32.519 studied group for Germanic Antiquity, was a German occultist and 1082 00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:36.840 volcish group founded in Munich shortly after World War One, 1083 00:57:36.960 --> 00:57:40.280 named after a mythical northern country. In Greek legend, the 1084 00:57:40.360 --> 00:57:45.079 society is notable chiefly as the organization that sponsored the 1085 00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:50.159 German Workers Party or the DAP, which was later reorganized 1086 00:57:50.199 --> 00:57:54.599 by Adolf Hitler into the National Socialist German Workers Party 1087 00:57:54.719 --> 00:57:56.440 or the NSDAP. 1088 00:57:57.760 --> 00:57:59.920 Yeah, all right, so we're gonna get into the rest 1089 00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:02.360 the whole storyline of how the Nazis became the Nazis. 1090 00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:05.400 But for now, the Thulay Society pretty much started, like 1091 00:58:05.440 --> 00:58:08.639 we said, as soon as World War One ended. Now 1092 00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:11.639 we could talk about, you know, the origins of and 1093 00:58:11.639 --> 00:58:14.000 all that the study group, but let's look a little 1094 00:58:14.000 --> 00:58:17.639 bit into their beliefs, just as a quick little read through. 1095 00:58:19.519 --> 00:58:22.360 A primary focus of the Thulae Society was a claim 1096 00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:25.440 concerning the origins of the Aryan race. In nineteen seventeen, 1097 00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:28.480 people who wanted to join the Germanic Order, out of 1098 00:58:28.519 --> 00:58:31.679 which the Thulay Society developed in nineteen eighteen had to 1099 00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:35.880 sign a special quote unquote blood declaration of faith concerning 1100 00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:39.840 their lineage, which said, the signer hereby swears, to the 1101 00:58:39.880 --> 00:58:42.320 best of his knowledge and belief, that no Jewish or 1102 00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:46.480 colored blood flows in either his or in his wife's veins. 1103 00:58:46.800 --> 00:58:49.559 And that among their ancestors are no members of the 1104 00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:54.639 colored races. So then it gets into the Thulay was 1105 00:58:54.800 --> 00:58:58.519 a land located by Greco Roman geographers in the farthest north, 1106 00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:02.840 often displayed as Ice. The Latin term Altima Thulay is 1107 00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:06.639 also mentioned by Roman poet Virgil in his pastoral poeman 1108 00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:16.000 poems called the the Georgic Georgics Georgia Georgics Okay. Thulay 1109 00:59:16.079 --> 00:59:20.400 originally was probably the name for Scandinavia, although Virgil simply 1110 00:59:21.079 --> 00:59:24.480 uses it as a proverbial expression for the edge of 1111 00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:27.039 the known world, and his mention should not be taken 1112 00:59:27.079 --> 00:59:31.840 as a substantial reference to Scandinavia. The Thulay Society identified 1113 00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:35.679 Altima Thulea as a lost ancient land mass in the 1114 00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:39.880 extreme north, near Greenland or Iceland, said by naziistics to 1115 00:59:39.880 --> 00:59:42.159 be the capital of ancient Hyperborea. 1116 00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:45.719 Now with that in mind, we did just talk about 1117 00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:48.920 dogger Land being this lost land mass in the north 1118 00:59:48.920 --> 00:59:51.840 of Europe. Maybe that's where they were getting this from 1119 00:59:51.920 --> 00:59:55.119 lost legends of that. But again we didn't quote unquote 1120 00:59:55.159 --> 00:59:58.639 know about that until five years ago, two years ago, 1121 00:59:58.760 --> 01:00:01.599 something like that, So who's to really say. But as 1122 01:00:01.639 --> 01:00:03.400 far as where the legends and the lore of where 1123 01:00:03.480 --> 01:00:06.719 Thule in the Greek time frame came from. It may 1124 01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:09.239 have been referring to that land. It may also have 1125 01:00:09.320 --> 01:00:14.000 been referring to Iceland. Who knows, right, But like we said, 1126 01:00:14.119 --> 01:00:18.599 that is what they believed, okay, and they were adamantly, religiously, 1127 01:00:18.960 --> 01:00:24.119 militantly believers of this. Now it became known as the 1128 01:00:24.199 --> 01:00:28.800 ultimate Nazi think tank slash academic society to propose and 1129 01:00:28.880 --> 01:00:31.960 theorize about Germany's alleged ancient past. 1130 01:00:32.840 --> 01:00:35.760 You remember we had the Atlantis House. 1131 01:00:35.639 --> 01:00:42.280 Video, the Atlantis House video. Yeah, refresh me. 1132 01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:45.760 You know what, why don't we just go ahead and 1133 01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:49.000 replay it at this time? This is the Smithsonian Channel. 1134 01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:52.079 It's a quick little video about the Atlantis House that 1135 01:00:52.239 --> 01:00:56.519 was actually built in Bremen, Germany, as a place of 1136 01:00:56.599 --> 01:01:00.360 meeting and worship and occult practices for this society. 1137 01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:05.079 Part of Bremen in northern Germany stands an extraordinary building. 1138 01:01:08.920 --> 01:01:13.440 Completed in nineteen thirty one, House Atlantis was designed as 1139 01:01:13.480 --> 01:01:16.519 an institute for the study of Atlantis and the Aryan 1140 01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:25.360 super race. The building's facade was originally adorned by a 1141 01:01:25.480 --> 01:01:30.840 large wooden sculpture depicting the Nordic god Odin crucified on 1142 01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:40.440 the tree of Life. Inside House Atlantis an astonishing stairwell 1143 01:01:41.159 --> 01:01:45.000 built of glass and steel. It may evoke the Aryan 1144 01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:58.840 exodus from Atlantis. At the top, the visitor enters a 1145 01:01:58.880 --> 01:02:06.360 mysterious room known as the Heavens Hall. This was to 1146 01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:11.920 be the teaching forum for the twisted ideologies of Herman Worth. 1147 01:02:13.719 --> 01:02:17.119 Helen was quite fascinated by the idea of finding Atlantis. 1148 01:02:18.239 --> 01:02:20.920 His idea was that this Atlantis was not somewhere in 1149 01:02:20.960 --> 01:02:24.039 the Mediterranean or something like that, but in the North 1150 01:02:24.039 --> 01:02:28.920 Atlantic region, and in his idea, in Atlantis twenty to 1151 01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:32.480 twenty five thousand years ago, a Nordic race was created 1152 01:02:32.559 --> 01:02:36.880 that was to control and influence the development of mankind 1153 01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:38.440 to a strong degree. 1154 01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:41.199 Now we don't need to play the whole video. 1155 01:02:41.239 --> 01:02:44.159 They go into an interpretation of how the place was 1156 01:02:44.239 --> 01:02:45.400 used once upon a time. 1157 01:02:46.159 --> 01:02:48.760 But yes, this house, the Atlanta's house. 1158 01:02:48.800 --> 01:02:51.440 This was started as a part of the Thula society 1159 01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:56.239 to find Atlantis as a lineage route to their ancient 1160 01:02:56.360 --> 01:03:00.920 arian past. Allegedly right or what they believe truly to be. 1161 01:03:01.039 --> 01:03:03.800 Not allegedly, they believe that shit. So like I said, 1162 01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:06.599 some believed it to be a place like this, some 1163 01:03:06.679 --> 01:03:09.199 believed it to be Antarctica. Some believed it to be 1164 01:03:10.519 --> 01:03:13.840 within the earth like we said, hollow earth theory. Some 1165 01:03:13.880 --> 01:03:17.079 of them believed it to be an ice world type theory. 1166 01:03:17.119 --> 01:03:18.800 And I'm gonna be honest with you, I had never 1167 01:03:18.840 --> 01:03:21.519 heard about this, So you know what, I'm gonna go 1168 01:03:21.559 --> 01:03:23.960 ahead and play this video now, Okay, Now this is 1169 01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:24.880 from Extra History. 1170 01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:26.519 I love this channel. I give them all the shouts 1171 01:03:26.519 --> 01:03:26.960 out that I. 1172 01:03:26.920 --> 01:03:29.599 Can, and I'm just gonna go ahead and let them 1173 01:03:29.760 --> 01:03:32.119 talk a little bit about the Thulee society's beliefs and 1174 01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:33.000 all of these things. 1175 01:03:33.440 --> 01:03:35.599 Let's listen in at this time, Hike. 1176 01:03:35.800 --> 01:03:39.239 When Germany was forming as a country, the later nineteenth 1177 01:03:39.239 --> 01:03:43.000 century was a rough time for establishments religion. Attendance at 1178 01:03:43.039 --> 01:03:46.599 mainline churches and synagogues declined in the face of capitalism, 1179 01:03:46.760 --> 01:03:51.000 social change, and advancing technology. Yet, despite this disillusionment with 1180 01:03:51.199 --> 01:03:56.079 organized religion, the yearning for spiritual fulfillment and social connection continued. 1181 01:03:56.280 --> 01:03:59.840 Across Europe and North America. People began gravitating towards so 1182 01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:04.039 herek new religions like spiritualism, forms of paganism, theosophy, or 1183 01:04:04.079 --> 01:04:08.159 Eastern traditions like Buddhism, joining movements that promised a spiritual 1184 01:04:08.199 --> 01:04:12.519 truth outside traditional channels. Technology both drove and underpinned this 1185 01:04:12.639 --> 01:04:16.519 questing as inventions such as the telephone, the airplane, and 1186 01:04:16.679 --> 01:04:22.079 vaccines hinted at a future where people achieved the previously impossible. Simultaneously, 1187 01:04:22.199 --> 01:04:26.000 geologists and archaeologists made discoveries about the deep past that 1188 01:04:26.119 --> 01:04:29.360 not only proved the Earth was vastly older than believed, 1189 01:04:29.440 --> 01:04:33.639 but uncovered civilizations previously only mentioned in ancient stories. The 1190 01:04:33.679 --> 01:04:37.159 whole concept of prehistory was founded with the understanding that 1191 01:04:37.239 --> 01:04:40.840 primordial humans had lived in caves, hunted, and competed with 1192 01:04:40.920 --> 01:04:45.119 other forms of ancient man, like Neanderthals. So in this environment, 1193 01:04:45.239 --> 01:04:48.679 it's understandable that across the world, it appeared possible that 1194 01:04:48.760 --> 01:04:52.960 an incredible ancient discovery such as Atlantis might occur, or 1195 01:04:53.039 --> 01:04:56.079 that technology would one day prove a fringe belief like 1196 01:04:56.199 --> 01:05:01.239 clairvoyance to be measurable and true. Simultaneously, early genetics research 1197 01:05:01.320 --> 01:05:05.719 and misapplication of Darwin's theories spawned a highly destructive eugenics 1198 01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:09.400 movement in several nations, including the United States, and these 1199 01:05:09.400 --> 01:05:12.760 forces were also acting on Germany, though taking on a 1200 01:05:12.800 --> 01:05:16.639 slightly different character because the country had only recently unified 1201 01:05:16.719 --> 01:05:19.239 and was in the process of forming its national identity. 1202 01:05:19.320 --> 01:05:21.960 During this era, while seeking to create a culture that 1203 01:05:22.159 --> 01:05:26.639 was quintessentially German, writers, artists and intellectuals turned to folk 1204 01:05:26.679 --> 01:05:29.800 tales such as that of the mythic hero Sigrid, Legends 1205 01:05:29.840 --> 01:05:33.320 of Charlemagne, or tales of monstrous creatures. The poems of 1206 01:05:33.320 --> 01:05:36.840 Guta full of Fairies, vampires and the Devil were adopted 1207 01:05:36.880 --> 01:05:39.800 as part of the national canon, and Vagna's Ring cycle 1208 01:05:39.920 --> 01:05:44.360 reignited interest in old stories of dwarfs and dragons. Protagonists 1209 01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:48.000 were mythic supermen and pure hearted women who defeated demons 1210 01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:52.119 and monsters, as well as scheming medieval caricatures of Jewish people. 1211 01:05:52.239 --> 01:05:55.639 After all, repression of Jewish communities was nothing new in 1212 01:05:55.679 --> 01:05:59.639 the lands now called Germany. Some retellings even cast supernatural 1213 01:05:59.679 --> 01:06:04.320 creature like werewolves and witches as heroic figures defending German soil, 1214 01:06:04.480 --> 01:06:08.400 which later led multiple Nazi units to adopt the nickname werewolves. 1215 01:06:08.719 --> 01:06:12.679 This attempted cultural fusion of Christianity with pagan traditions was 1216 01:06:12.760 --> 01:06:16.920 a massive success, but also baked the supernatural and anti 1217 01:06:16.920 --> 01:06:21.599 Semitism into German culture. Meanwhile, German school curriculums attempted to 1218 01:06:21.639 --> 01:06:25.320 instill a sense of epic history into students, telling the 1219 01:06:25.360 --> 01:06:28.599 great tales of the German race in ages past. At 1220 01:06:28.639 --> 01:06:32.119 the same time, a popular movement known as Folkish nationalism 1221 01:06:32.199 --> 01:06:35.320 started to spread, which imagine a kind of ideal German 1222 01:06:35.400 --> 01:06:38.840 as a racially pure peasant who had spiritual connections to 1223 01:06:38.920 --> 01:06:42.639 the land. Esoteric writers began to speculate that blood had 1224 01:06:42.760 --> 01:06:46.920 magic qualities, and that pure blooded Arians would have spiritual 1225 01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:50.159 and psychic powers should they not dilute their blood by 1226 01:06:50.199 --> 01:06:55.039 marrying outside their ethnicity. Paradoxically, these movements were also fascinated 1227 01:06:55.079 --> 01:06:59.159 with Eastern mysticism and plundered Buddhism and Hinduism for ideas 1228 01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:03.519 while claiming mutual descent. Soon, Folkish secret societies based on 1229 01:07:03.599 --> 01:07:07.480 the Freemasons were springing up around Germany, including one breakaway 1230 01:07:07.519 --> 01:07:10.679 founded in the wake of World War One, the Thule Society, 1231 01:07:10.760 --> 01:07:14.000 which played a small role in what would become Nazism. 1232 01:07:14.079 --> 01:07:17.199 Named after Thule, a far northern island mentioned in an 1233 01:07:17.239 --> 01:07:20.800 ancient Greek account, the Thulers were an odd bunch. Membership 1234 01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:25.360 required genealogical proof that applicants had no Jewish ancestors, which 1235 01:07:25.400 --> 01:07:28.840 gained them admittance to what was essentially a discussion group 1236 01:07:28.920 --> 01:07:32.960 on racial nationalism and right wing politics, and its founder, 1237 01:07:33.079 --> 01:07:37.719 the occultist astrologer and one time Muslim convert Rudolf von Zebotandoff, 1238 01:07:37.800 --> 01:07:40.519 borrowed a symbol from Eastern religion for his new group, 1239 01:07:40.679 --> 01:07:44.840 the swastika. One popular idea within the society was that 1240 01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:48.880 of World ice theory, a pseudoscientific theory that the universe 1241 01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:52.360 had been created by massive collisions between cosmic bodies of 1242 01:07:52.519 --> 01:07:56.480 fire and ice, and bombardments by ice moons had shaped 1243 01:07:56.519 --> 01:08:00.239 Earth's history. According to this belief, ancient humans had not 1244 01:08:00.280 --> 01:08:03.119 only arrived on Earth via one of these comets, but 1245 01:08:03.199 --> 01:08:06.360 these ancient arians had spread out in a mythic Golden 1246 01:08:06.360 --> 01:08:10.000 Age of civilization before Thule was again destroyed by an 1247 01:08:10.039 --> 01:08:14.320 ice moon, handily explaining why the supposed Germanic master race 1248 01:08:14.400 --> 01:08:17.520 were living in caves and mud huts while the Mesopotamians 1249 01:08:17.560 --> 01:08:21.760 developed writing and the Romans built an empire. Soon, they claimed, 1250 01:08:21.880 --> 01:08:26.039 archaeologists would look closer at major archaeological sites around the 1251 01:08:26.039 --> 01:08:29.720 world and find traces of ancient arians in places as 1252 01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:33.520 far as Egypt, Babylon, and the Incan ruins of Tiowanaka. 1253 01:08:33.600 --> 01:08:37.439 These ideas dovetailed well with ideas already expressed by the 1254 01:08:37.560 --> 01:08:41.880 German Russian theosophist Madame Blovlatsky, who'd proposed a similar idea 1255 01:08:41.960 --> 01:08:46.119 to explain why Germans were in fact the descendants of Atlantis. 1256 01:08:46.399 --> 01:08:50.560 A further offshoot of theosophy, Ariosophy, which focused on mysticism 1257 01:08:50.640 --> 01:08:54.520 involving arians and would influence Nazi radical thought, was patronized 1258 01:08:54.520 --> 01:08:57.319 by Thule. But the Thule Society was not just a 1259 01:08:57.359 --> 01:09:00.680 band of eclectic weirdos. They were also active on the 1260 01:09:00.720 --> 01:09:04.399 German far right. In nineteen nineteen, when left wing socialists 1261 01:09:04.439 --> 01:09:07.640 took over Munich and declared a republic, the Thule Society 1262 01:09:07.680 --> 01:09:10.000 plotted to kidnap the leader of the new republic and 1263 01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:13.880 sent agents to infiltrate the military. The socialists got wise 1264 01:09:13.920 --> 01:09:17.680 and raided Thul offices, executing several Thulers and prompting the 1265 01:09:17.720 --> 01:09:20.119 group to help whip up the right wing militias that 1266 01:09:20.239 --> 01:09:23.239 retook the city. Yet, the Thule Society was not viable 1267 01:09:23.319 --> 01:09:26.479 as a political party, especially after its antics in Munich 1268 01:09:26.479 --> 01:09:29.199 had made it open to public scrutiny. It was to 1269 01:09:29.319 --> 01:09:33.600 elitist to aristocratic, so it branched out, with several ex 1270 01:09:33.680 --> 01:09:37.960 members founding the German Workers Party or DAP, an extreme 1271 01:09:38.119 --> 01:09:42.399 right political organization consisting of disaffected World War I veterans 1272 01:09:42.520 --> 01:09:46.520 with ethnic nationalist beliefs, deep rooted anti semitism, and a 1273 01:09:46.560 --> 01:09:50.000 working class background. Its founder was, of course, a semi 1274 01:09:50.000 --> 01:09:54.000 professional astrologer. Later, the Thule Society would purchase a newspaper 1275 01:09:54.000 --> 01:09:57.279 for the party's use and bankroll its publication. Still, it 1276 01:09:57.399 --> 01:10:01.079 was a small, obscure, badly run party, and it might 1277 01:10:01.119 --> 01:10:04.399 have stayed that way except that in nineteen nineteen and 1278 01:10:04.560 --> 01:10:07.279 enlisted soldiers showed up at one of its meetings. The 1279 01:10:07.359 --> 01:10:10.439 soldier was a decorated veteran retained as a liaison with 1280 01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:14.279 civilian organizations who was occasionally sent to political meetings to 1281 01:10:14.359 --> 01:10:18.000 see if they were secretly communists. His name was Adolf Hitler, 1282 01:10:18.199 --> 01:10:21.760 a committed atheist, and he thought that this ridiculous German 1283 01:10:21.800 --> 01:10:23.920 Workers Party could be so much more. 1284 01:10:24.880 --> 01:10:31.000 Okay, now with that in mind, let me ask you this, Jonathan, 1285 01:10:33.399 --> 01:10:35.720 are you starting to see how the German people just 1286 01:10:35.800 --> 01:10:40.520 kind of latched on to it, and how they didn't 1287 01:10:40.560 --> 01:10:44.119 necessarily they didn't take it to be just a metaphorical thing. 1288 01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:47.039 They were kind of looking for something to belong to 1289 01:10:47.520 --> 01:10:50.520 and in a weird way. This although it sounds outlandish 1290 01:10:50.600 --> 01:10:53.760 to us at this time from this vantage point, but 1291 01:10:53.840 --> 01:10:56.520 to a German person who was dealing with the worst 1292 01:10:56.640 --> 01:10:59.640 depression that the earth had seen up until that point, 1293 01:10:59.680 --> 01:11:02.960 because not only were they destroyed by the war, they 1294 01:11:02.960 --> 01:11:06.279 were bankrupt as a country. They owed, like every fucking 1295 01:11:06.359 --> 01:11:12.119 country unpayable war debts, like even like beyond the scope 1296 01:11:12.159 --> 01:11:13.800 of something that they would still be paying that to 1297 01:11:13.840 --> 01:11:16.000 this day from World War One if they were to 1298 01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:18.159 try to make those payments and stuff. And then you're 1299 01:11:18.159 --> 01:11:20.439 trying to make those payments with an industry that no 1300 01:11:20.520 --> 01:11:23.680 longer exists because your country's been bombed a fuck. So 1301 01:11:23.800 --> 01:11:26.319 it was like from the mud, pay us all our 1302 01:11:26.359 --> 01:11:29.600 money kind of thing. So they were just over it 1303 01:11:29.680 --> 01:11:33.359 as far as everything was concerned. So they didn't believe 1304 01:11:33.479 --> 01:11:35.640 these things to be metaphorical. They were teaching it to 1305 01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:38.520 school children and they preached it to the German people 1306 01:11:38.560 --> 01:11:40.000 as literal doctrine. 1307 01:11:40.479 --> 01:11:45.359 The German people ate it up and Hitler loved it. 1308 01:11:46.199 --> 01:11:47.680 What was your thoughts at this moment? 1309 01:11:47.760 --> 01:11:50.560 Well, I think that you know, it's like you know, 1310 01:11:50.680 --> 01:11:53.039 the the part in Men in Black where you always 1311 01:11:53.119 --> 01:11:56.159 reference it's like a group of people, like the mass 1312 01:11:56.239 --> 01:11:59.680 of people as are not smart the singular person is, 1313 01:11:59.760 --> 01:12:03.520 but the mass of people whenever you you know, an 1314 01:12:03.520 --> 01:12:06.680 ideology is a lot like a poison. You know, if 1315 01:12:06.720 --> 01:12:11.079 you poison even a little drop of poison those parts 1316 01:12:11.119 --> 01:12:14.439 per million, per per whatever's in the well, it's like 1317 01:12:14.560 --> 01:12:17.039 it's still going to infect that. And I think that 1318 01:12:17.079 --> 01:12:19.920 if you get enough people in in a big enough 1319 01:12:19.960 --> 01:12:22.840 group of people to really start believing in this kind 1320 01:12:22.880 --> 01:12:25.520 of stuff, then yeah, it's going to poison the rest 1321 01:12:25.560 --> 01:12:28.199 of the well. And it's you know, like they say, 1322 01:12:28.239 --> 01:12:30.760 like one bad apple can really rot the whole tree. 1323 01:12:31.880 --> 01:12:34.000 Absolutely agree. I absolutely agree. 1324 01:12:34.039 --> 01:12:37.520 But and to be fair, I mean, if you really 1325 01:12:37.560 --> 01:12:42.079 think about it, most countries were founded upon some kind 1326 01:12:42.159 --> 01:12:47.279 of spiritual or religious you know, ideology. And I think 1327 01:12:47.359 --> 01:12:50.479 that you know, whenever you start really kind of digging 1328 01:12:50.520 --> 01:12:53.760 into that, it's it is a form of control. Like 1329 01:12:53.880 --> 01:12:56.840 whether it's good control, bad control, if it's okay kind 1330 01:12:56.880 --> 01:13:00.159 of control, whatever, it is still a way to you know, 1331 01:13:00.359 --> 01:13:04.680 to kind of implement some of your whatever you want 1332 01:13:04.720 --> 01:13:07.399 your country to run. As like all right. Well, we're 1333 01:13:07.640 --> 01:13:11.720 we are brought up upon upon these traditions, and this 1334 01:13:11.800 --> 01:13:14.239 is the way that we believe. It's the American way, 1335 01:13:14.279 --> 01:13:17.199 it's the German way, it's the Chinese way, whatever, right. 1336 01:13:17.479 --> 01:13:19.920 Right, But that was the thing, right, So, China has 1337 01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:23.520 like at least two, if not three thousand years of 1338 01:13:23.600 --> 01:13:27.680 history to that area, right. The German people at this time, 1339 01:13:28.239 --> 01:13:32.319 they needed something to tie them to that area, the fatherland. 1340 01:13:32.560 --> 01:13:35.880 Bro They felt that in their blood, they felt a 1341 01:13:35.920 --> 01:13:39.279 true blood connection to the soil itself, and there was 1342 01:13:39.319 --> 01:13:43.520 a whole real cultural feeling that was there. And again 1343 01:13:43.600 --> 01:13:45.680 not by a one hundred percent of the German people. 1344 01:13:46.199 --> 01:13:48.840 But you don't need one hundred percent for control. As 1345 01:13:48.880 --> 01:13:51.159 a matter of fact, most pteticians say that you need 1346 01:13:51.199 --> 01:13:52.720 ten percent to enact control. 1347 01:13:53.279 --> 01:13:56.439 Sure, I mean, just look at it in a smaller 1348 01:13:56.479 --> 01:14:00.279 scale kind of thing. All right. So I'm a huge 1349 01:14:00.279 --> 01:14:02.680 Pittsburgh Steelers fan by the way, Like if you don't 1350 01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:06.680 know that, but how do they get all of the 1351 01:14:06.680 --> 01:14:09.640 people of Pittsburgh in that area of Pennsylvania to pay 1352 01:14:09.640 --> 01:14:12.720 for renovations to the stadium, Well, you make them Steelers 1353 01:14:12.760 --> 01:14:16.800 fans and you promote a lot of positive Steelers propaganda 1354 01:14:17.039 --> 01:14:19.239 that way, whenever it's coming out of your fucking check 1355 01:14:19.279 --> 01:14:21.960 every week, or whenever you're getting paid and you getting 1356 01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:24.159 taxed on all this kind of crazy shit, It's like, well, 1357 01:14:24.199 --> 01:14:26.359 at least it's going to something I love, you know 1358 01:14:26.359 --> 01:14:29.960 what I mean. And that's a small scale kind of example, 1359 01:14:30.039 --> 01:14:31.560 but you know what I mean, No. 1360 01:14:31.640 --> 01:14:32.840 I do one hundred percent. 1361 01:14:33.359 --> 01:14:34.880 And so that was the thing, right, he had to 1362 01:14:34.880 --> 01:14:36.920 get these people motivated, He had to get them on 1363 01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:37.680 the same side. 1364 01:14:37.720 --> 01:14:39.239 And he didn't have to get the whole country. He 1365 01:14:39.319 --> 01:14:40.920 just had to get enough. Right. 1366 01:14:41.600 --> 01:14:46.079 So Hitler comes into this DAP and he gives this 1367 01:14:46.199 --> 01:14:49.479 speech September twelfth, nineteen nineteen, Just like the video said, 1368 01:14:49.720 --> 01:14:52.720 Adolf Hitler gives a speech to this DAP group, the 1369 01:14:52.880 --> 01:14:57.840 German Workers Party later becoming the National Socialist Workers Party 1370 01:14:57.920 --> 01:15:02.039 or what we would now call NOTTS for short. The 1371 01:15:02.039 --> 01:15:06.000 speech moves the crowd and Adolph basically takes over the organization. 1372 01:15:06.399 --> 01:15:07.640 Now, at this time, Hitler is. 1373 01:15:07.640 --> 01:15:11.520 A complete believer in all of the occult ideologies, and 1374 01:15:11.560 --> 01:15:14.640 he has been radicalized by those three dudes I mentioned earlier. 1375 01:15:15.399 --> 01:15:18.319 Side note, there's also the rial society. 1376 01:15:18.479 --> 01:15:20.279 I'm gonna go ahead and share the screen right now, 1377 01:15:20.279 --> 01:15:23.239 because if we're gonna mention Nazi occultism, we must in 1378 01:15:23.319 --> 01:15:24.479 fact mention all of it. 1379 01:15:25.079 --> 01:15:25.399 Now. 1380 01:15:25.640 --> 01:15:27.840 If you're a listener to the Cult of Conspiracy, you 1381 01:15:27.880 --> 01:15:31.319 may have heard the episode that I did on the 1382 01:15:31.439 --> 01:15:35.159 Nation of Islam and the Nuabian Nation of More's. We 1383 01:15:35.199 --> 01:15:36.680 did an episode on that a couple of weeks ago 1384 01:15:36.760 --> 01:15:39.119 or months ago, shit, I don't even know anymore, and 1385 01:15:39.319 --> 01:15:42.520 we talked about Vril. Now, it's interesting that these groups 1386 01:15:42.560 --> 01:15:47.079 took that word and applied it to some sort of 1387 01:15:47.159 --> 01:15:51.079 African blood lineage thing, because the real Society was started 1388 01:15:51.239 --> 01:15:55.720 in Germany as a way to promote racial purity. It's 1389 01:15:55.760 --> 01:15:59.479 from this book. It's from eighteen seventy one. It's called 1390 01:16:00.399 --> 01:16:04.399 The Power of the Coming Race. It's written by Edward 1391 01:16:04.840 --> 01:16:10.840 boulwar Leeton. And basically, the Virial Society came in and 1392 01:16:11.399 --> 01:16:14.359 took this to be an ideological thing in and of itself. 1393 01:16:15.439 --> 01:16:17.800 You know, we might as well just read a couple 1394 01:16:17.840 --> 01:16:19.560 of the members of the Vial Society. 1395 01:16:20.039 --> 01:16:22.359 Willie Lay, who was a German rocket engineer. 1396 01:16:22.920 --> 01:16:25.640 He immigrated to the United States in nineteen thirty seven, 1397 01:16:25.680 --> 01:16:28.479 and in nineteen forty seven he published an article titled 1398 01:16:28.520 --> 01:16:34.520 pseudoscience in Naziland, we got Jacques or Jacques Bergier and 1399 01:16:34.680 --> 01:16:38.640 Louis Powells. The existence of the Vial Society was alleged 1400 01:16:38.680 --> 01:16:42.600 in nineteen sixty by Jacques Bergier and Louise or Louis 1401 01:16:42.680 --> 01:16:46.159 Powells in their book The Morning of Magicians. They claimed 1402 01:16:46.199 --> 01:16:48.600 that the Royal Society was a secret community of occultist 1403 01:16:48.640 --> 01:16:52.119 in pre Nazi Berlin that was a sort of inner 1404 01:16:52.159 --> 01:16:55.680 circle of the Thulee Society. They also thought that it 1405 01:16:55.760 --> 01:16:58.000 was in close contact with the English group known as 1406 01:16:58.039 --> 01:17:00.560 the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, which we've talked 1407 01:17:00.600 --> 01:17:03.159 about that before. Alistair Crowley was a member of that 1408 01:17:03.239 --> 01:17:06.359 as well as uh Helena Blovotsky, at least for a time. 1409 01:17:07.760 --> 01:17:07.960 Now. 1410 01:17:08.359 --> 01:17:11.439 Like I said, there's not a whole chain of events here, 1411 01:17:11.479 --> 01:17:15.079 but some of the rhetoric from this book was used 1412 01:17:15.159 --> 01:17:19.479 in Nazi propaganda, so it is at least worth the mention. 1413 01:17:19.960 --> 01:17:22.680 Like I said, it does not get nearly the shouts 1414 01:17:22.680 --> 01:17:24.800 out that the Thule Society got because it was never 1415 01:17:24.840 --> 01:17:28.399 as big. But like we just read, some people believe 1416 01:17:28.439 --> 01:17:31.359 that this was an inner circle within the inner circle 1417 01:17:31.479 --> 01:17:32.079 of the Thule. 1418 01:17:32.479 --> 01:17:35.199 So that's that's what I've learned throughout the years too, 1419 01:17:35.239 --> 01:17:37.600 it is kind of hard to really look for anything 1420 01:17:37.720 --> 01:17:40.520 on the real society because it was extra secretive. Like 1421 01:17:40.560 --> 01:17:42.960 you said, it was probably a secret society inside of 1422 01:17:42.960 --> 01:17:45.880 a secret society. But the stuff that I have found 1423 01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:48.399 is that a lot of people link like shape shifters 1424 01:17:48.479 --> 01:17:50.279 and fucking reptilians to the VRU. 1425 01:17:51.520 --> 01:17:55.640 Yeah. Yeah, that's all I'm saying. So, I mean, is 1426 01:17:55.640 --> 01:17:58.680 there a thing here possibly, I don't know. 1427 01:17:59.159 --> 01:18:01.640 It's just weird, dude, That's really what it is. It's 1428 01:18:01.680 --> 01:18:03.159 just a bunch of fucking weird freaks. 1429 01:18:04.079 --> 01:18:06.199 I mean, and when you look at it, dude, and 1430 01:18:06.239 --> 01:18:08.600 I don't want to undercut, but I mean, at the 1431 01:18:08.600 --> 01:18:10.760 same time, fuck them because they're you know, Nazis. 1432 01:18:11.279 --> 01:18:14.640 But like the Thule Society, while or Tool Society, I'm not. 1433 01:18:15.640 --> 01:18:17.479 I've heard it said both ways. That's why I keep 1434 01:18:17.479 --> 01:18:20.520 on saying Thula because that's the way I always learned 1435 01:18:20.680 --> 01:18:23.039 how to say it. But he was saying it Thule Society, 1436 01:18:23.079 --> 01:18:24.960 which I'm tomate it Tomato. Who knows. 1437 01:18:25.520 --> 01:18:26.159 But that's the thing. 1438 01:18:26.199 --> 01:18:28.960 I don't know if that's the correct correct German pronunciation. 1439 01:18:29.119 --> 01:18:31.079 If that's just because the person who taught me was 1440 01:18:31.079 --> 01:18:33.840 American didn't know any better themselves. But then it's like, yeah, 1441 01:18:33.880 --> 01:18:36.000 they're Nazis, Fuck them, call them away for the hell 1442 01:18:36.039 --> 01:18:36.720 I want, you know what I mean. 1443 01:18:36.800 --> 01:18:41.159 So all of that to say, now, the Thule Society. 1444 01:18:40.760 --> 01:18:45.239 Gets all of the the propaganda and all of the attention. 1445 01:18:46.840 --> 01:18:48.960 If you really look at it, dude, it was. 1446 01:18:48.920 --> 01:18:52.640 A bunch of pompous German LARPers who like, we get 1447 01:18:52.640 --> 01:18:56.680 together and smoke cigars and talk about or maybe not cigar, 1448 01:18:56.880 --> 01:18:58.880 no cigarettes most of the more than likely, but they 1449 01:18:58.880 --> 01:19:02.560 would talk about just theories of where Germans may have 1450 01:19:02.680 --> 01:19:05.720 come from for hours and hours and hours and hours 1451 01:19:05.760 --> 01:19:06.119 and just. 1452 01:19:06.520 --> 01:19:07.520 It was like a boys club. 1453 01:19:07.600 --> 01:19:10.479 It was a who's who of the Nazi elites at 1454 01:19:10.479 --> 01:19:12.399 a certain point, you know what I mean. So to 1455 01:19:12.399 --> 01:19:15.079 say that the Royal Society was something within that even 1456 01:19:15.239 --> 01:19:19.359 like sure, why not? Now, how did Hitler get the 1457 01:19:19.479 --> 01:19:23.079 entire country to buy in? Well, like I said, Christianity 1458 01:19:23.159 --> 01:19:25.600 was kind of on the outweigh, you know it, It 1459 01:19:25.640 --> 01:19:27.600 was on the way out as far as Germany was concerned. 1460 01:19:28.039 --> 01:19:33.600 And he actually used it against or as the antithesis 1461 01:19:33.640 --> 01:19:38.119 of the Nazi ideology. Okay, keep in mind it was 1462 01:19:38.640 --> 01:19:42.239 very anti Arian belief, bro. They worshiped a Jewish dude. 1463 01:19:42.880 --> 01:19:46.760 They they preached like unity and how everybody was equal 1464 01:19:46.800 --> 01:19:50.560 and shit. And then of course for the still Christians 1465 01:19:50.560 --> 01:19:52.239 out there that were like on the fence about it, 1466 01:19:52.399 --> 01:19:55.439 let's not forget who killed Jesus though, right, So, like, 1467 01:19:55.960 --> 01:20:01.079 clearly this whole the Christian jam wasn't the jam, and 1468 01:20:01.119 --> 01:20:03.720 so therefore it wasn't the Nazi jam. And as a 1469 01:20:03.760 --> 01:20:06.520 matter of fact, it in its own way got outlawed. 1470 01:20:06.840 --> 01:20:12.000 All religion got outlawed except for the true German truth, 1471 01:20:12.640 --> 01:20:17.000 the German cultural way that they had now adopted as 1472 01:20:17.079 --> 01:20:19.279 their societal cultural norm. 1473 01:20:19.720 --> 01:20:21.880 It it was pretty wild, dude. 1474 01:20:21.720 --> 01:20:24.600 The German people, like we said, were already pretty disillusioned 1475 01:20:24.640 --> 01:20:27.279 with the Church, with the government, with how far they 1476 01:20:27.319 --> 01:20:29.960 had fallen, and they needed a messiah. They needed a 1477 01:20:29.960 --> 01:20:33.039 bad guy to blame as well. And then incomes Adolf 1478 01:20:33.199 --> 01:20:36.479 saying all the right things, questioning the establishment and stealing 1479 01:20:36.520 --> 01:20:40.039 pride in the quote unquote true German ways, getting all 1480 01:20:40.199 --> 01:20:43.760 the people out of their slump, and on top of that, 1481 01:20:44.119 --> 01:20:48.520 providing the people with a common enemy to hate as well. Like, 1482 01:20:49.119 --> 01:20:51.560 not only did he come in saying all the right things, 1483 01:20:51.840 --> 01:20:53.680 he gave him a bad guy to beat the shit 1484 01:20:53.760 --> 01:20:56.239 out of. It seemed like he was just a win 1485 01:20:56.319 --> 01:20:58.840 went across the board as far as the Germans were concerned, 1486 01:20:58.880 --> 01:21:02.039 well at least the White Germans. The Jewish Germans are 1487 01:21:02.079 --> 01:21:03.079 kind of fucked on that one. 1488 01:21:03.159 --> 01:21:06.159 Well, you always need a bad guy, like always, you 1489 01:21:06.199 --> 01:21:09.279 can't not have a bad guy every religion. Well not 1490 01:21:09.359 --> 01:21:10.479 every religion has a bad guy. 1491 01:21:10.479 --> 01:21:13.039 I don't think, huh, there has to be a boogeyman 1492 01:21:13.399 --> 01:21:20.680 every politicians. Yeah, right right, every movement, every movement has 1493 01:21:20.760 --> 01:21:22.479 to have a bad guy. 1494 01:21:23.079 --> 01:21:26.239 Sure, sure, I mean some people are motivated by fear, 1495 01:21:26.680 --> 01:21:29.199 and some people are motivated not by fear. But in 1496 01:21:29.319 --> 01:21:31.359 order to include everybody, you need the ones that are 1497 01:21:31.399 --> 01:21:32.239 motivated by fear. 1498 01:21:33.079 --> 01:21:37.279 Absolutely, absolutely, And so everything changed in the country. Kids 1499 01:21:37.319 --> 01:21:39.800 like that we just learned were in school. They were 1500 01:21:39.800 --> 01:21:43.239 taught Nordic legends and they were actually taught to pray 1501 01:21:43.279 --> 01:21:48.319 to the furor, like legitimately to the furor. Christmas was 1502 01:21:48.359 --> 01:21:52.479 replaced by the winter solstice celebrations, May Day, summer Solstice, 1503 01:21:52.520 --> 01:21:56.000 the equinox is all brought back from their Christian appropriations, 1504 01:21:56.239 --> 01:22:00.720 and they're they were washed over with Nazi propaganda, like 1505 01:22:00.840 --> 01:22:03.439 they still celebrated around the same times and in a 1506 01:22:03.439 --> 01:22:06.720 lot of ways, in the same ways. They were just Nazified, 1507 01:22:07.279 --> 01:22:10.319 not even pagafied, like paganified or anything like that. It 1508 01:22:10.359 --> 01:22:13.039 was more just like Nazi paganified. 1509 01:22:13.880 --> 01:22:17.520 I mean, I'm not surprised by that. That's most most 1510 01:22:17.600 --> 01:22:22.479 religions steal from other religions traditions, so that's that's not 1511 01:22:22.520 --> 01:22:23.039 too crazy. 1512 01:22:23.960 --> 01:22:26.159 At this time, we're actually gonna play this video from 1513 01:22:26.439 --> 01:22:29.279 Camp Gagnon. I love this dude, shouts out to him. 1514 01:22:29.359 --> 01:22:31.479 I would love to get him as a guest on 1515 01:22:31.520 --> 01:22:33.479 our show or be a guest on his show. Fucking 1516 01:22:33.520 --> 01:22:35.880 love this guy. But uh, let's hear what he has 1517 01:22:35.960 --> 01:22:37.680 to say about this very topic. 1518 01:22:38.880 --> 01:22:42.279 So basically what they started doing is they started manipulating 1519 01:22:42.680 --> 01:22:46.560 the nature of religion in the country with these Nazi ideals. 1520 01:22:46.600 --> 01:22:48.880 So like even at school, children were taught to pray 1521 01:22:48.960 --> 01:22:52.319 to not God, but the fewer literally fear my fe're 1522 01:22:52.359 --> 01:22:55.960 a leader, the Hitler basically, and rather than obviously they're 1523 01:22:56.079 --> 01:23:00.960 the heavenly Father. Christians also celebrate, uh, you know, Christmas 1524 01:23:01.039 --> 01:23:02.800 and Easter, and they kind of washed these things away 1525 01:23:02.800 --> 01:23:04.960 and took away the religious elements of the holidays and 1526 01:23:05.000 --> 01:23:07.159 actually just imbuted it with as like a little gift 1527 01:23:07.159 --> 01:23:09.600 giving holiday, and they actually brought back the winter solstice 1528 01:23:09.640 --> 01:23:13.279 and the Christmas tree was adorned with swastikas, and it 1529 01:23:13.319 --> 01:23:15.520 became sort of a time of just kind of giving 1530 01:23:15.600 --> 01:23:19.479 militaristic gifts in Nazi propaganda. And you know, all of 1531 01:23:19.520 --> 01:23:21.800 these ideas like the summer Solstice and sort of these 1532 01:23:21.840 --> 01:23:24.479 pagan festivals were all brought back, which is kind of 1533 01:23:24.479 --> 01:23:26.560 funny because I'm pretty sure a lot of Christian festivals 1534 01:23:26.600 --> 01:23:29.239 were built on pagan festivals. And then he brought it 1535 01:23:29.279 --> 01:23:32.239 back to pagan festivals again, going back to this idea 1536 01:23:32.279 --> 01:23:35.159 that Christianity was suppressing the people and that he needed 1537 01:23:35.159 --> 01:23:37.640 to revive the true ideals. 1538 01:23:37.119 --> 01:23:40.000 Of what you know, the religion of the Arians was. 1539 01:23:40.520 --> 01:23:43.119 And so, like I said, they did these winter and 1540 01:23:43.119 --> 01:23:45.439 summer solstices, and there were these big festivals that were 1541 01:23:45.439 --> 01:23:48.520 seen across the country and were a big part of 1542 01:23:48.640 --> 01:23:52.159 these these German holidays. So like the winter solstices even 1543 01:23:52.239 --> 01:23:55.680 for example, they had these bonfires and torchlight processions, and 1544 01:23:55.720 --> 01:23:58.319 in the summer Soltice they had you know, it was 1545 01:23:58.399 --> 01:24:00.760 again a day to sort of honor then and so 1546 01:24:00.800 --> 01:24:03.000 you even see like a lot of symbolism within the 1547 01:24:03.119 --> 01:24:06.479 Nazi Party, like the Black Sun. They had these occult 1548 01:24:06.520 --> 01:24:09.680 symbols that were tied in with the party at large. 1549 01:24:09.800 --> 01:24:12.159 So this is where it gets interesting. Hitler has basically 1550 01:24:12.159 --> 01:24:15.960 taken over all of Germany. The Nazi Party is extremely successful. 1551 01:24:16.560 --> 01:24:20.600 They are controlling this massive country and they have these 1552 01:24:20.640 --> 01:24:24.279 desires to spread east and so shortly after Germany invades 1553 01:24:24.319 --> 01:24:27.239 Poland in nineteen thirty nine, there's a woman named Magda Goebels. 1554 01:24:27.279 --> 01:24:29.920 You probably know her last name because she is the 1555 01:24:29.960 --> 01:24:34.399 wife of the Minister of Propaganda, Joseph Goebbels, And basically 1556 01:24:34.479 --> 01:24:37.760 she stumbles upon a passage in Nostra Damas's book, and 1557 01:24:37.920 --> 01:24:43.000 basically Nostra Damis was a French occult figure that was 1558 01:24:43.039 --> 01:24:44.840 able to see the future, and he was able to 1559 01:24:44.880 --> 01:24:48.079 make these divine proclamations and had a bunch of historically 1560 01:24:48.119 --> 01:24:51.359 a ton of different prophecies that have come true. And 1561 01:24:51.600 --> 01:24:54.560 people at the time, specifically in Germany, were aware of 1562 01:24:54.640 --> 01:24:57.199 him and they had read his different quatrains, and one 1563 01:24:57.199 --> 01:25:02.399 of the quatrains they believed predicted the crisis that developed 1564 01:25:02.439 --> 01:25:05.720 in England and Poland in nineteen thirty nine. After bringing 1565 01:25:05.760 --> 01:25:08.840 the passage to her husband's attention, Goebbels ordered the creation 1566 01:25:09.079 --> 01:25:11.920 and the distribution of the brochure, and it would convince 1567 01:25:12.000 --> 01:25:14.880 all those living not only in Germany and in Austria, 1568 01:25:15.000 --> 01:25:18.720 but all over Europe that a Nazi victory was inevitable. 1569 01:25:19.000 --> 01:25:22.199 Nostra Damis said it was so, I mean, it's duh right. 1570 01:25:22.760 --> 01:25:24.960 The Allies saw this and they were like, oh wow, 1571 01:25:25.039 --> 01:25:27.439 these people have kind of lost their religion. 1572 01:25:27.640 --> 01:25:29.479 They're sort of tied up with these occult ideas. 1573 01:25:29.520 --> 01:25:32.239 They believe that this guy is an actual prophet, and 1574 01:25:32.399 --> 01:25:34.439 they were afraid it was going to you know, stoke 1575 01:25:34.560 --> 01:25:37.560 morale within Germany. So they said, you know what, We're 1576 01:25:37.560 --> 01:25:40.560 going to retaliate with our own psychological warfare, and they 1577 01:25:40.680 --> 01:25:45.000 dropped large quantities of flyers over German occupied territories claiming 1578 01:25:45.039 --> 01:25:47.720 that no Stra Damis had actually seen Germany's defeat. They 1579 01:25:47.760 --> 01:25:51.640 had made fake No stre Damis quad trains, and not 1580 01:25:51.720 --> 01:25:54.319 only in an attempt to you know, defeat the Germans, 1581 01:25:54.359 --> 01:25:57.119 but also boost the morale of maybe Allies that had 1582 01:25:57.199 --> 01:25:59.479 read these pamphlets or come across them. So they were 1583 01:25:59.479 --> 01:26:01.520 basically doing the same thing. It's crazy and in an 1584 01:26:01.560 --> 01:26:06.560 attempt to boost American morale. MGM actually produced a series 1585 01:26:06.640 --> 01:26:10.159 of short films about the famous soothsayer and again sort 1586 01:26:10.199 --> 01:26:13.399 of promoting this idea that these occult figures were working 1587 01:26:13.399 --> 01:26:15.119 on both sides of the war. So again this is 1588 01:26:15.159 --> 01:26:18.159 just another illustration of how sort of the mystical realm 1589 01:26:18.239 --> 01:26:21.319 of you know, untapped knowledge is actually very much alive 1590 01:26:21.600 --> 01:26:24.239 within the hearts of German people, and when they're told 1591 01:26:24.279 --> 01:26:27.359 about these ideas, they kind of grab onto them. Now, 1592 01:26:28.159 --> 01:26:33.159 I would say the most prominent figure of all German 1593 01:26:33.560 --> 01:26:36.720 occultism is actually not Hitler. And we're going to talk 1594 01:26:36.760 --> 01:26:38.600 about this in a little bit, but Hitler, like I said, 1595 01:26:38.640 --> 01:26:40.680 growing up, he's reading about all these things, and he's 1596 01:26:40.720 --> 01:26:43.680 reading Osteria and these magazines that have, you know, these 1597 01:26:43.720 --> 01:26:47.000 sort of racist, occult sort of ideas. But as he 1598 01:26:47.159 --> 01:26:49.439 slowly progresses through the war, he gets less interested in 1599 01:26:49.439 --> 01:26:52.880 the occult. But the same cannot be said for Heinrich Himmler. 1600 01:26:53.439 --> 01:26:56.520 This guy's just gone back. Okay, Like this guy is 1601 01:26:56.720 --> 01:26:59.399 the worst. He's the leader of the SS, which you know, 1602 01:26:59.399 --> 01:27:04.279 obviously is a pairamilitary organization within the Nazi Party, and 1603 01:27:04.319 --> 01:27:06.600 this guy is just he's a scumbag. But he's using 1604 01:27:06.600 --> 01:27:11.479 a ton of different occult symbols all throughout the German propaganda, 1605 01:27:11.520 --> 01:27:14.119 and he's given them to Goebels and it's completely entwined 1606 01:27:14.560 --> 01:27:18.159 with so much of the Nazi look and appearance at 1607 01:27:18.239 --> 01:27:20.920 the time. Black uniforms he believed had a specific meaning. 1608 01:27:20.960 --> 01:27:24.000 He wanted to channel authority and fear the mysterious nature 1609 01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:26.520 of the SS's mission. I mean, the toten kov for 1610 01:27:26.640 --> 01:27:29.039 the death head. I mean, this is pretty obvious. I 1611 01:27:29.039 --> 01:27:31.800 mean this is just a skull and crossbones, and this 1612 01:27:31.920 --> 01:27:33.960 was a symbol warn of the uniforms in the caps 1613 01:27:33.960 --> 01:27:37.119 of the SS, and there was no real good way 1614 01:27:37.239 --> 01:27:39.760 to interpret skull and crossbones. I mean it's a pretty 1615 01:27:39.840 --> 01:27:43.399 terrifying image. But he's intentional about this. Again, this is 1616 01:27:43.439 --> 01:27:45.640 not by mistake. This is used by him, and a 1617 01:27:45.640 --> 01:27:49.119 lot of these symbols are ancient, ancient Norse ruins and 1618 01:27:49.439 --> 01:27:52.239 you know, different ancient Germanic symbols that he's tying in 1619 01:27:52.680 --> 01:27:55.800 basically perpetuing this idea that hey, we are the ones 1620 01:27:55.840 --> 01:27:56.399 that are going. 1621 01:27:56.279 --> 01:27:58.319 To carry on this aryan ideology. 1622 01:27:58.439 --> 01:28:02.079 So even the actual logo of the SS, you know, 1623 01:28:02.399 --> 01:28:05.520 they get these giant lightning bolts, these come directly from 1624 01:28:05.640 --> 01:28:08.560 Norse mythology, and he believed in these ancient traditions and 1625 01:28:08.840 --> 01:28:12.720 that he wanted to symbolically, you know, embody the spirit 1626 01:28:12.760 --> 01:28:16.079 of the Aryan race. And so again he's inspired by 1627 01:28:16.119 --> 01:28:18.399 these Teutonic Knights, and the Teutonics are similar to the 1628 01:28:18.439 --> 01:28:20.560 Knights Templar that we had mentioned before. They're just a 1629 01:28:20.640 --> 01:28:24.119 you know, a series of crusaders that defended their heritage. 1630 01:28:24.920 --> 01:28:26.159 That's the way he saw it at least. 1631 01:28:26.399 --> 01:28:28.760 And these Knights saw themselves on a mission to spread 1632 01:28:28.840 --> 01:28:32.600 Christianity by you know, sword, and Himmler basically was like, hey, 1633 01:28:32.600 --> 01:28:35.479 we're going to twist these ideas to make us appear 1634 01:28:35.600 --> 01:28:39.199 as some ancient tradition. And so they use these symbols 1635 01:28:39.239 --> 01:28:44.039 to basically tie in with their racist organizations to perpetuate 1636 01:28:44.079 --> 01:28:46.479 the idea that they're actually bigger than the ideology, that 1637 01:28:46.520 --> 01:28:50.439 they're ancient, and that this Aryan philosophy is actually you know, true, 1638 01:28:50.479 --> 01:28:51.880 and it's who the Germans actually are. 1639 01:28:52.000 --> 01:28:56.039 I mean, Okay, So all of that being said, right, 1640 01:28:57.159 --> 01:29:00.960 keep in mind the Teutonic Knights that they were referencing, 1641 01:29:01.640 --> 01:29:06.520 they were a devout Catholics. They were seen alongside the 1642 01:29:06.600 --> 01:29:09.399 Knights Templars and the Knights Hospitallers and the Knights of 1643 01:29:09.479 --> 01:29:12.880 Lazarus and all these other like completely blessed by the 1644 01:29:12.920 --> 01:29:18.359 Pope's chivalric orders. And their crusade was mostly fought against 1645 01:29:18.399 --> 01:29:22.079 the Pagans in the north of Europe. So just so 1646 01:29:22.159 --> 01:29:25.600 we're clear about the irony of that Himmler's group, and 1647 01:29:26.079 --> 01:29:29.960 therefore also your boy lands that new Order of Templars 1648 01:29:30.039 --> 01:29:33.600 or whatever, he drew from Teutonic sources as well. So 1649 01:29:33.680 --> 01:29:37.560 they were both quoting a group that was defending Jerusalem 1650 01:29:37.600 --> 01:29:43.840 from Muslims for Jews, and somehow from that and then 1651 01:29:43.880 --> 01:29:47.760 even further the Teutonic Order. I don't even think they 1652 01:29:47.800 --> 01:29:49.600 made it to Jerusalem, or if they did, it was 1653 01:29:49.640 --> 01:29:55.039 a small contingent. Their crusade was like predominantly, if not strictly, 1654 01:29:55.800 --> 01:29:58.880 the north of Europe to the pagan tribes of the 1655 01:29:58.960 --> 01:30:05.720 Celts and the Gaul and the Druids. So all right, word, 1656 01:30:07.760 --> 01:30:10.520 it makes no sense to me, dude, But like I 1657 01:30:10.560 --> 01:30:13.920 said it, they just ran with it, bro. They they 1658 01:30:13.920 --> 01:30:17.000 didn't care. They just it didn't matter to the German people. 1659 01:30:17.000 --> 01:30:20.439 It's somehow connected and made sense to them at that time. 1660 01:30:20.920 --> 01:30:23.000 Bro, What are your thoughts. 1661 01:30:24.479 --> 01:30:28.000 Yeah, I would say, if you're trying to implement a 1662 01:30:28.159 --> 01:30:33.960 new spiritual tradition by copying other religious things and making 1663 01:30:34.000 --> 01:30:36.479 it your own and then going and conquering everybody else, 1664 01:30:36.479 --> 01:30:39.479 it's pretty fucking stupid. But hey, if it works, it works, 1665 01:30:39.520 --> 01:30:40.079 I suppose. 1666 01:30:41.439 --> 01:30:44.319 I mean, yes, it definitely worked, at least for the 1667 01:30:44.359 --> 01:30:47.479 intents and purposes that they were trying to use it for. 1668 01:30:47.560 --> 01:30:48.960 I mean, the. 1669 01:30:48.920 --> 01:30:52.920 People latched on. The people really latched on, and it 1670 01:30:53.000 --> 01:30:57.000 was enough for them. They they were searching for literally anything, 1671 01:30:58.720 --> 01:31:01.000 and then they found it. All of that being said, 1672 01:31:01.000 --> 01:31:03.760 we talked about their pure blood. That was a whole thing. 1673 01:31:03.800 --> 01:31:07.079 They had a blood tied to the land. Their affinity 1674 01:31:07.119 --> 01:31:11.039 with blood is extremely occult, dude, I mean baked into 1675 01:31:11.079 --> 01:31:15.800 the Nazi ideology, not just their symbol, right, yes, red 1676 01:31:15.840 --> 01:31:19.000 being a color of their flag. But have you ever 1677 01:31:19.079 --> 01:31:21.640 heard of the blute flag or the blood flag of 1678 01:31:21.680 --> 01:31:22.479 the Nazi Party? 1679 01:31:22.960 --> 01:31:23.199 Nope? 1680 01:31:24.279 --> 01:31:26.399 Okay, So here's the backstory to it. And I didn't 1681 01:31:26.399 --> 01:31:28.079 write it down because I'll tell it quickly. So have 1682 01:31:28.119 --> 01:31:30.920 you ever heard of the beer hall, pushed pushed whatever? 1683 01:31:31.439 --> 01:31:32.039 Definitely not? 1684 01:31:33.319 --> 01:31:33.680 Okay. 1685 01:31:34.520 --> 01:31:38.000 So, when Hitler got in with that DAP party, he 1686 01:31:38.039 --> 01:31:42.039 basically tried to run a revolt and it was a 1687 01:31:42.079 --> 01:31:44.680 failed attempt, and it was called the Beer Hall Pushed 1688 01:31:44.880 --> 01:31:50.279 of nineteen twenty three. Basically, it was what the Nazi party. 1689 01:31:50.319 --> 01:31:52.680 It was the beginning of the Nazi Party, and the 1690 01:31:52.720 --> 01:31:56.479 police recalled. Certain people were gunned down and their blood 1691 01:31:56.560 --> 01:32:00.279 splattered all over this Nazi flag, this flag that was 1692 01:32:00.319 --> 01:32:02.840 stained with the blood of what was now martyrs to 1693 01:32:02.880 --> 01:32:06.159 the Nazi cause. Every year they had a ceremony where 1694 01:32:06.159 --> 01:32:08.920 they would lay new Nazi flags on top of the 1695 01:32:08.960 --> 01:32:12.279 original blue flag to try to imbue this new Nazi 1696 01:32:12.279 --> 01:32:16.000 flag with the blood of the martyrs of the Nazis. 1697 01:32:16.000 --> 01:32:18.079 It was a whole thing, dude, that's tell me that's 1698 01:32:18.119 --> 01:32:19.079 not a cult as fuck. 1699 01:32:20.239 --> 01:32:21.199 Oh of course it is. 1700 01:32:22.079 --> 01:32:24.600 I mean, that was a whole whole thing they did 1701 01:32:24.680 --> 01:32:28.800 at least once a year. Now, the occult meaning and 1702 01:32:28.880 --> 01:32:32.720 symbolism behind there quote unquote pure arian blood. I mean, 1703 01:32:32.720 --> 01:32:34.520 come on, tell me there's not all kinds of we 1704 01:32:34.640 --> 01:32:36.600 How many times have we talked about on this show 1705 01:32:36.960 --> 01:32:39.800 about how blue blood and how the lineage has everything 1706 01:32:39.800 --> 01:32:42.239 to do with the powers of and the genetics and 1707 01:32:42.279 --> 01:32:46.239 all the That's an entire talking point for so many 1708 01:32:46.279 --> 01:32:49.359 people that believe in the occult, not all, not all, 1709 01:32:49.840 --> 01:32:53.359 but especially during the early nineteen hundreds when eugenics was 1710 01:32:53.399 --> 01:32:56.640 a normal talking point, and how these people were writing 1711 01:32:56.680 --> 01:32:59.960 books about sterilizing the sick and sterilizing the racially infear. 1712 01:33:00.399 --> 01:33:04.000 Bup, like, yeah, sure, absolutely, yeah. 1713 01:33:04.039 --> 01:33:07.039 I mean blood magic has been a thing for a 1714 01:33:07.119 --> 01:33:11.520 very long time, and there's always a lot of emphasis 1715 01:33:11.520 --> 01:33:16.039 on the blood, which I find very strange. He even 1716 01:33:16.119 --> 01:33:18.920 drinking little shots of wine is very strange to me. 1717 01:33:19.039 --> 01:33:19.960 But I digress. 1718 01:33:20.039 --> 01:33:24.119 That's fair, that's fair. I mean sure. Now, your boy 1719 01:33:24.159 --> 01:33:27.119 brought up Himmler a moment ago. Now Himler himself set 1720 01:33:27.119 --> 01:33:30.720 out on expeditions to find any remains of their lost 1721 01:33:30.920 --> 01:33:36.199 Aryan ancestors. He went looking for Thor's actual hammer, And 1722 01:33:36.239 --> 01:33:42.960 I don't mean this to be like the metaphorical depictions 1723 01:33:43.039 --> 01:33:48.720 of He wanted to find the actual muleneer. He was 1724 01:33:48.760 --> 01:33:51.840 like on multiple quests to find that, along with a 1725 01:33:51.880 --> 01:33:53.199 lot of other artifacts. 1726 01:33:53.319 --> 01:33:54.720 Did he think that he was worthy? 1727 01:33:56.199 --> 01:33:58.359 I don't know if he I don't I don't know. 1728 01:33:58.520 --> 01:34:02.279 I don't know what he thought. Dude, Like, all right, 1729 01:34:02.920 --> 01:34:06.239 they at a certain point you could understand why he 1730 01:34:06.279 --> 01:34:10.920 would be looking for depictions of or to see how 1731 01:34:11.039 --> 01:34:14.720 far that cultural image stemmed out from a certain point. 1732 01:34:14.760 --> 01:34:16.720 And like from an. 1733 01:34:16.079 --> 01:34:20.800 Anthropology standpoint, I could understand what he was aiming for, 1734 01:34:21.399 --> 01:34:23.359 but that is not what he was aiming for. 1735 01:34:24.000 --> 01:34:25.560 As very much real as the. 1736 01:34:25.600 --> 01:34:29.119 Arc of the Covenant is to a vast majority of people, 1737 01:34:29.920 --> 01:34:32.760 he believed that Mule Andir was an actual device. 1738 01:34:32.840 --> 01:34:33.039 Bro. 1739 01:34:33.199 --> 01:34:35.319 Look, I'm gonna go ahead and share a picture on 1740 01:34:35.359 --> 01:34:39.439 Wikipedia right now. Actually, I gotta find that damn picture 1741 01:34:39.439 --> 01:34:41.600 because I'm on a whole different thing at this moment. 1742 01:34:42.640 --> 01:34:45.119 By the way, I think that a lot of and 1743 01:34:45.159 --> 01:34:47.920 this is just my own personal beliefs, I think that 1744 01:34:48.199 --> 01:34:52.520 all of the Odin thor you know, Loki Mule near 1745 01:34:53.239 --> 01:34:57.359 the fucking reindeer and all that shit, I personally, even 1746 01:34:57.399 --> 01:34:59.520 though yes it was jotted down in the EDAs and 1747 01:34:59.560 --> 01:35:01.359 the proces, that is, and there's a lot of people 1748 01:35:01.399 --> 01:35:04.039 that believe in that kind of stuff. I don't know, dude, 1749 01:35:04.079 --> 01:35:06.720 Whenever you're talking about fucking Odin who supposedly live for 1750 01:35:06.800 --> 01:35:09.720 like five or ten thousand years, it's like, can we 1751 01:35:09.880 --> 01:35:11.760 just look at it for the eggregor that it is, 1752 01:35:12.039 --> 01:35:13.720 you know what I'm saying, Like, why do we have 1753 01:35:13.800 --> 01:35:17.680 to be going and looking for certain relics of stuff 1754 01:35:17.680 --> 01:35:19.359 that is unimaginable. 1755 01:35:20.399 --> 01:35:24.640 Dude, they say that there's nine realms on the tree. 1756 01:35:24.920 --> 01:35:28.000 We don't even know the name of two of the 1757 01:35:28.119 --> 01:35:31.720 nine realms. We are fully assuming and. 1758 01:35:31.680 --> 01:35:35.720 Guessing at two of them. That's real life. There's no 1759 01:35:35.800 --> 01:35:36.640 way around that. 1760 01:35:37.479 --> 01:35:40.880 If we don't even know that much, how can we 1761 01:35:40.960 --> 01:35:43.640 pretend to know anything about the religion. 1762 01:35:44.439 --> 01:35:46.319 The same way with the Druids. 1763 01:35:45.840 --> 01:35:48.359 Which we're gonna get to in a little bit. But like, 1764 01:35:50.199 --> 01:35:53.640 there's no way of us today knowing that, well. 1765 01:35:53.479 --> 01:35:55.760 You don't need to know it. Odin only gave you 1766 01:35:55.760 --> 01:35:59.560 your manna. 1767 01:36:00.600 --> 01:36:04.560 I guess, I guess now, Like I was saying, your 1768 01:36:04.560 --> 01:36:08.000 boy actually went and was looking for mulen Heir. He 1769 01:36:08.079 --> 01:36:11.279 went looking for this actual hammer, and he even talked 1770 01:36:11.279 --> 01:36:14.560 about this in a letter he wrote to and from 1771 01:36:14.840 --> 01:36:20.199 This was his society, the Anna Nairbe task Force that 1772 01:36:20.279 --> 01:36:23.760 he set up within the Thula Society. He wrote a 1773 01:36:23.840 --> 01:36:27.640 letter in nineteen forty and we've seen this sigil before. 1774 01:36:27.680 --> 01:36:32.479 That's why I brought it up here. I'm gonna I'm 1775 01:36:32.479 --> 01:36:37.279 gonna read the direct quote from the letter, because this 1776 01:36:37.359 --> 01:36:39.479 is where you could sell he kind of drew a 1777 01:36:39.520 --> 01:36:45.279 line here, all right, have the following researched. Find all 1778 01:36:45.319 --> 01:36:49.239 of the places in Northern Germanic cultural world where they 1779 01:36:49.239 --> 01:36:53.279 have an understanding of the lightning bolt, the thunderbolt, or 1780 01:36:53.319 --> 01:36:57.600 Thor's hammer, or where the flying or thrown hammer exists, 1781 01:36:58.239 --> 01:37:01.079 in addition to all depictions to the god with a 1782 01:37:01.159 --> 01:37:06.119 small hand axe emitting lightning. Please, con please collect all 1783 01:37:06.199 --> 01:37:12.239 of the pictorial, scriptural, sculptural, and written mythological evidence of this. 1784 01:37:12.840 --> 01:37:17.880 I'm convinced that this is not based on natural thunderbolt 1785 01:37:17.920 --> 01:37:22.079 and lightning, but rather is an early, highly developed form 1786 01:37:22.199 --> 01:37:26.479 of war weapon of our forefathers, which was only of 1787 01:37:26.560 --> 01:37:30.840 course possessed by the Aesir the gods, and that it 1788 01:37:30.960 --> 01:37:35.159 implies an unheard knowledge of electricity. So that was a 1789 01:37:35.239 --> 01:37:39.199 direct quote from a letter from Himmler written to his 1790 01:37:39.359 --> 01:37:41.199 staff that were on an expedition. 1791 01:37:42.760 --> 01:37:45.399 Oh okay, so these were hardcore believers. 1792 01:37:46.439 --> 01:37:49.760 This wasn't a joke to these people, This wasn't a game. 1793 01:37:50.479 --> 01:37:57.279 This was them trying to rediscover their quote unquote true religion. 1794 01:37:58.520 --> 01:38:03.560 My question is why would Thorn leave his hammer here? 1795 01:38:05.880 --> 01:38:11.479 Ah? Well, according to legend, it had to be left here. 1796 01:38:11.640 --> 01:38:15.199 If you believe a certain trail of stories. 1797 01:38:15.359 --> 01:38:18.119 It's you. Look, man, I don't know. I don't I 1798 01:38:18.119 --> 01:38:18.439 don't know. 1799 01:38:19.279 --> 01:38:22.239 I'm just saying he's known for, you know, wielding mlnair. 1800 01:38:22.399 --> 01:38:25.039 You wouldn't think why would you fucking leave it here? 1801 01:38:25.399 --> 01:38:27.520 Could you only use it here? Was it not needed 1802 01:38:27.520 --> 01:38:29.920 in the other realms or other realms? You know, not 1803 01:38:30.000 --> 01:38:32.119 made of the same kind of material. I don't know. 1804 01:38:32.960 --> 01:38:34.960 I have no idea, you know what I mean. 1805 01:38:34.960 --> 01:38:38.560 But this Innrabe society right here, this is where like 1806 01:38:38.640 --> 01:38:41.720 all of the movies we see about crazy Nazi scientists 1807 01:38:41.720 --> 01:38:44.319 and crazy occult magic and all that with the group 1808 01:38:44.399 --> 01:38:46.760 of German Nazis and blah blah blah, that's this. 1809 01:38:47.399 --> 01:38:50.359 That's all this group within the Thule society. 1810 01:38:50.800 --> 01:38:53.560 Now, they were also sent to find proof of the 1811 01:38:53.600 --> 01:38:57.840 Holy Lance aka the Spear of Destiny. I'm gonna go 1812 01:38:57.840 --> 01:39:01.159 ahead and play a quick little vigia talking about said 1813 01:39:01.359 --> 01:39:05.159 Spear of Destiny, or at least one version of the story. 1814 01:39:05.680 --> 01:39:12.039 The Bible describes numerous holy relics, including the Monora and 1815 01:39:12.119 --> 01:39:15.680 the Arc of the Covenant. There are also sacred objects 1816 01:39:15.720 --> 01:39:19.640 that are mentioned in the New Testament. One of these 1817 01:39:19.760 --> 01:39:24.039 artifacts is a spear that was reportedly wielded by a 1818 01:39:24.119 --> 01:39:28.039 Roman soldier during the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. 1819 01:39:30.079 --> 01:39:34.920 The origin of the spear comes from the Gospel of John. 1820 01:39:35.880 --> 01:39:38.239 Jesus is on the cross, the Romans are trying to 1821 01:39:38.279 --> 01:39:40.399 figure out whether he's dead because there's a lot of 1822 01:39:40.439 --> 01:39:43.800 pressure to get him down at bury him. There was 1823 01:39:43.800 --> 01:39:47.159 a Roman soldier who someone told him stab this guy, 1824 01:39:47.319 --> 01:39:49.359 finish him off, make sure he's dead. 1825 01:39:51.119 --> 01:39:54.319 The Christian tradition says, the name of this Roman soldier 1826 01:39:54.359 --> 01:39:58.760 who pierces Jesus Laginus, And there's a story that develops 1827 01:39:58.960 --> 01:40:03.279 that he's blind or he's nearsighted, and so when he's 1828 01:40:03.479 --> 01:40:07.560 pierced at the side of Jesus, the blood in the 1829 01:40:07.560 --> 01:40:10.880 water comes out that lands on his eyes and it 1830 01:40:10.920 --> 01:40:15.840 makes him able to see. It's this miracle, because of course, 1831 01:40:15.880 --> 01:40:18.560 the blood of Christ is this miraculous sort of thing. 1832 01:40:20.159 --> 01:40:25.039 According to Christian belief, when this ordinary spear touched Jesus, 1833 01:40:25.319 --> 01:40:29.760 it became a sacred rite and was referred to as 1834 01:40:29.800 --> 01:40:34.800 either the Holy Lands or the spear of Destiny. 1835 01:40:36.039 --> 01:40:42.159 For believers, this spear of Destiny actually pierced Jesus's side 1836 01:40:42.760 --> 01:40:46.399 and came in contact with his blood. 1837 01:40:47.600 --> 01:40:48.239 For them. 1838 01:40:48.520 --> 01:40:53.439 This would mean that it does in fact have some 1839 01:40:53.560 --> 01:40:58.199 kind of divine power, because you can't touch the Holy 1840 01:40:58.920 --> 01:41:01.359 without being chained or transformed. 1841 01:41:02.960 --> 01:41:07.279 Because this was the only weapon that is said to 1842 01:41:07.439 --> 01:41:12.880 have pierced the body of Christ, the legend got going 1843 01:41:12.920 --> 01:41:16.239 that if you had the Spear of Destiny, the Holy Lance, 1844 01:41:18.399 --> 01:41:22.920 you could not be stopped. You were invincible, and a 1845 01:41:22.920 --> 01:41:25.359 whole series of leaders wanted to get their hands on it, 1846 01:41:25.760 --> 01:41:29.359 perhaps believing God would then be on their side and 1847 01:41:29.439 --> 01:41:30.119 they would. 1848 01:41:29.840 --> 01:41:35.119 Prevail after Jesus' crucifixion. One of the rulers that reportedly 1849 01:41:35.159 --> 01:41:39.520 came into possession of the Spear of Destiny was the 1850 01:41:39.680 --> 01:41:42.199 eighth century French king Charlemagne. 1851 01:41:43.239 --> 01:41:48.479 Charlemagne Charles the Great carry the lance in forty seven 1852 01:41:48.880 --> 01:41:54.359 victorious campaigns and spread his control over much of France 1853 01:41:54.399 --> 01:41:56.760 and Germany all the way into what would now be 1854 01:41:57.079 --> 01:42:02.760 Slovakia and Hungary. So Charlemagne at eight hundred on Christmas 1855 01:42:02.880 --> 01:42:06.560 Day is crowned by the Pope as Emperor of the West, 1856 01:42:08.079 --> 01:42:09.479 and there were a lot of people who believed that 1857 01:42:09.520 --> 01:42:12.319 the Spear of Destiny explained to success. 1858 01:42:13.960 --> 01:42:17.399 Is it possible that the sphere of Destiny actually gave 1859 01:42:17.520 --> 01:42:25.239 Charlemagne the power to vanquish his enemies, perhaps, but if so, 1860 01:42:25.880 --> 01:42:28.960 then such power apparently came at a heavy price. 1861 01:42:31.279 --> 01:42:34.840 Legend says that if you crop the spear of Destiny, 1862 01:42:35.079 --> 01:42:37.640 or lose it, or even really step back from it, 1863 01:42:38.520 --> 01:42:41.319 all of your great victories are going to be as nothing. 1864 01:42:41.399 --> 01:42:42.439 You will just fall. 1865 01:42:43.039 --> 01:42:46.920 And that's what happened. Apparently, when Charlemagne carried it into 1866 01:42:46.960 --> 01:42:49.960 battle and dropped it, he lost that battle, even though 1867 01:42:50.039 --> 01:42:52.279 with it he'd won forty seven battles. 1868 01:42:53.520 --> 01:42:56.479 Was the Sphere of Destiny responsible for both the rise 1869 01:42:56.960 --> 01:43:02.399 and fall of Charlemagne. Today, the Sphere of Destiny is 1870 01:43:02.399 --> 01:43:06.800 on display at the Hofbrick Museum in Vienna, where tourists 1871 01:43:06.920 --> 01:43:11.760 can view this historic object and wonder whether it really 1872 01:43:11.840 --> 01:43:15.479 did sway the fate of nations for centuries because of 1873 01:43:15.520 --> 01:43:17.680 its connection to Jesus Christ. 1874 01:43:19.840 --> 01:43:24.039 Keep in mind that with this the Nazis allegedly had 1875 01:43:24.039 --> 01:43:28.399 the Spear of Destiny, Okay, they it was hal hailed 1876 01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:33.520 at the Austrian House of Treasures in Vienna. Apparently Hitler, 1877 01:43:33.560 --> 01:43:36.600 when he was an artist in Vienna, he saw it 1878 01:43:36.640 --> 01:43:39.920 on display and just fell in love with the idea 1879 01:43:39.920 --> 01:43:42.600 of the power that that thing could have. And so 1880 01:43:43.680 --> 01:43:47.920 apparently the Nazis in fact sent out a group to 1881 01:43:47.960 --> 01:43:51.800 grab this religious artifact and use it for their occult purposes. 1882 01:43:52.359 --> 01:43:54.880 And they did absolutely. 1883 01:43:54.760 --> 01:44:01.119 And allegedly Hitler didn't commit suicide until that spear was 1884 01:44:01.119 --> 01:44:04.800 in Allied hands, if you believe he committed suicide and 1885 01:44:04.840 --> 01:44:08.159 didn't make his way to Argentina or anywhere like that. 1886 01:44:08.760 --> 01:44:11.760 But whatever, okay, sounds about right? Yeah, I know that 1887 01:44:11.880 --> 01:44:13.359 you know a lot of people that are within the 1888 01:44:13.399 --> 01:44:16.399 occult they like to use whether it be a chalice 1889 01:44:16.560 --> 01:44:19.960 or a knife shield whatever. I mean, there's a lot 1890 01:44:20.000 --> 01:44:24.159 of tools that you can use within your within your magic. 1891 01:44:25.199 --> 01:44:28.560 Indeed, now with all that the Thula Society and that 1892 01:44:28.720 --> 01:44:33.800 the Anhard whatever the hell, fucking dude, and an her 1893 01:44:33.880 --> 01:44:37.239 based Asidy, thank you, they also sent a group to 1894 01:44:37.319 --> 01:44:41.039 the North Pole, to the Arctic. Let's read this little 1895 01:44:41.239 --> 01:44:43.439 or let's watch this little one minute video about when 1896 01:44:43.479 --> 01:44:46.119 that base was actually captured by Allied forces. 1897 01:44:51.720 --> 01:44:54.199 A few hundred miles from the North Pole, American coast 1898 01:44:54.199 --> 01:44:57.359 guards lower depth charges into the pack ice and blast 1899 01:44:57.359 --> 01:45:00.119 a channel to secret German bases established author Green on 1900 01:45:00.199 --> 01:45:08.479 the coast. A longboat pulls away to destroy the radio 1901 01:45:08.560 --> 01:45:11.439 stations from which the Nazis were sending weather reports to Germany. 1902 01:45:12.159 --> 01:45:15.399 When the German expeditions installed themselves there, they sneaked in 1903 01:45:15.479 --> 01:45:22.039 plenty of supplies. Look at all back to the US 1904 01:45:22.079 --> 01:45:24.600 cut up comes a load of sixty prisoners. They had 1905 01:45:24.640 --> 01:45:27.880 scuttled their three ships before Sir Hendry, no more weather 1906 01:45:27.920 --> 01:45:31.479 reports for the Nazis. A new center of low depression has. 1907 01:45:31.359 --> 01:45:35.439 Set in bro They had a secret quote unquote weather 1908 01:45:35.560 --> 01:45:40.479 base at the North Pole, right, and that was actually 1909 01:45:40.560 --> 01:45:44.399 that expedition to start that base was from the Inner 1910 01:45:44.479 --> 01:45:45.199 Bay Society. 1911 01:45:45.760 --> 01:45:48.680 Well, I'll tell you what, dude, there's still in my 1912 01:45:48.840 --> 01:45:52.239 mind a lot of questions about what's really going on 1913 01:45:52.319 --> 01:45:55.520 at the North Pole, Like especially when Justin Trudeau talks 1914 01:45:55.520 --> 01:45:57.760 about how his dad was all powerful and he knew 1915 01:45:58.000 --> 01:46:00.239 he knew that his dad was powerful because his dad 1916 01:46:00.279 --> 01:46:02.239 took him up to the North Pole and as soon 1917 01:46:02.239 --> 01:46:04.279 as he saw what his dad had been involved in 1918 01:46:04.279 --> 01:46:06.439 in the North Pole, he knew that he had like 1919 01:46:06.600 --> 01:46:09.520 immense power. And so it's like, what the fuck are 1920 01:46:09.560 --> 01:46:11.680 you really looking at him there? Because I'm pretty sure 1921 01:46:11.720 --> 01:46:14.800 it's not a fucking candy cane that's sitting in the ground. 1922 01:46:14.960 --> 01:46:18.920 You know, so what would this Nazi occult group be 1923 01:46:19.079 --> 01:46:22.800 looking for at the North Pole? It begs the question, right, 1924 01:46:22.960 --> 01:46:25.880 and then let's not also forget their explorations to the 1925 01:46:26.000 --> 01:46:30.640 South Pole. The Antarctic exploration of the Nazis. Let's watch 1926 01:46:30.680 --> 01:46:31.880 this little video about it. 1927 01:46:32.119 --> 01:46:36.840 Thirties Nazi Gerberty showed a keen interest in Antarctica leading 1928 01:46:36.920 --> 01:46:40.439 up to an expedition that would claim Germerty's Antarctic territory 1929 01:46:40.520 --> 01:46:44.800 of New Swabia. Because of the Second World War, no 1930 01:46:44.920 --> 01:46:48.239 further efforts to develop the territory were made. Now the 1931 01:46:48.319 --> 01:46:51.880 clay was completely abandoned after the defeat of Nazi Gerberty. 1932 01:46:52.319 --> 01:46:54.840 Before I get to be sure to subscribe, I would 1933 01:46:54.880 --> 01:46:58.880 really appreciate it. Gerberty let the expedition during nineteen thirty 1934 01:46:58.880 --> 01:47:02.239 eight to nineteen thirty one died to Antarctica with the 1935 01:47:02.279 --> 01:47:05.199 big purpose of securing an area where a whale station 1936 01:47:05.279 --> 01:47:09.640 could be constructed to increase Treviany's production of fat. 1937 01:47:10.000 --> 01:47:14.399 They say that it was sent realistically, y'all all right? 1938 01:47:15.640 --> 01:47:20.560 The official narrative is that the Nazis sent out the 1939 01:47:21.520 --> 01:47:27.439 An Air Base Society to Antarctica to look for good 1940 01:47:27.479 --> 01:47:32.800 whaling grounds because in the war effort. Germany really needed 1941 01:47:32.800 --> 01:47:38.319 that whale oil. Bro Whale oil hadn't been used in 1942 01:47:38.520 --> 01:47:42.319 lamps since kerosene had been invented for decades. 1943 01:47:42.880 --> 01:47:45.359 What the fuck are they talking about. 1944 01:47:46.119 --> 01:47:48.279 She'll be eating on that whale blubber just as soon 1945 01:47:48.319 --> 01:47:49.239 as I free Willie. 1946 01:47:49.960 --> 01:47:55.479 I mean, but that just shipping alone, like whaling. The 1947 01:47:55.600 --> 01:47:57.560 Nazis wanted to get into whaling. 1948 01:47:57.720 --> 01:47:59.880 That's the official narrative that people are like, yep to 1949 01:48:00.000 --> 01:48:02.039 totally right, but all right, let's. 1950 01:48:01.960 --> 01:48:03.319 Let's there's probably more to that. 1951 01:48:04.079 --> 01:48:05.319 Yeah, but let's continue. 1952 01:48:06.000 --> 01:48:09.359 Whale oil happened to be the main row material needed 1953 01:48:09.359 --> 01:48:14.720 for the production of margarine soap, butter, detergents, paint, et cetera. 1954 01:48:15.920 --> 01:48:18.239 Margarine soap, butter, detergents and paint. 1955 01:48:18.800 --> 01:48:21.680 So margarine soap and butter, you can make that with milk, 1956 01:48:22.279 --> 01:48:25.640 and I know that they got dairy right first off. 1957 01:48:26.279 --> 01:48:29.439 Detergents in paint detergents, you could make that with ash 1958 01:48:29.720 --> 01:48:33.319 like lye and paint. No, that is not a main 1959 01:48:33.479 --> 01:48:36.159 ingredient in any kind of paint that I've ever known 1960 01:48:36.159 --> 01:48:41.479 in my life. But again, let's just see New Swabia. 1961 01:48:41.840 --> 01:48:43.760 If anybody wants to Google starts down on their own. 1962 01:48:44.800 --> 01:48:48.600 Nazi Germanty mainly imported whale oil from Norway. As a 1963 01:48:48.600 --> 01:48:52.119 matter of fact, Geberty was the second largest purchaser of 1964 01:48:52.159 --> 01:48:56.920 Norwegian oil. Due to the incoming war, Geberty was worried 1965 01:48:57.039 --> 01:49:00.039 it wouldn't to be able to trade with Norway. The 1966 01:49:00.159 --> 01:49:03.560 Nazis felt the need of securing their own source of fat. 1967 01:49:04.680 --> 01:49:08.560 On December seventeenth of nineteen thirty eight, the DW Swabia 1968 01:49:08.600 --> 01:49:14.680 Expedition left Hamburg to the Antarctic continent aboard MS Schwabenland 1969 01:49:15.560 --> 01:49:18.520 and Yeah. Of course, DW Swabia was named after the ship. 1970 01:49:19.560 --> 01:49:23.000 The ship arrived on January nineteenth of nineteen thirty nine 1971 01:49:23.359 --> 01:49:26.520 at Princess Martha Coast, which is an area that just 1972 01:49:26.640 --> 01:49:30.199 so happened to be claimed by Norway very recently, with 1973 01:49:30.319 --> 01:49:34.119 the German claim overlapping that of Norway's. The charting of 1974 01:49:34.159 --> 01:49:37.640 the region began. Flags of the Third Reich were placed 1975 01:49:37.640 --> 01:49:41.039 on the sea ice along the coast. The team established 1976 01:49:41.039 --> 01:49:45.039 a temporary base and continued to chart the area. Several 1977 01:49:45.039 --> 01:49:49.520 photographic survey flights were carried out. Ultimately, they took sixteen 1978 01:49:49.560 --> 01:49:54.840 thousand aerial photographs and have flown thousands of kilometers. The 1979 01:49:54.920 --> 01:49:57.760 team left to dw Swabia on the sixth of February 1980 01:49:58.000 --> 01:50:00.079 nineteen thirty nine. 1981 01:50:00.279 --> 01:50:04.319 Okay, so it begs the question what were they actually 1982 01:50:04.399 --> 01:50:08.640 looking for there, because I don't really know if whale 1983 01:50:08.680 --> 01:50:12.520 oil from Norway was that much of a concern to 1984 01:50:12.640 --> 01:50:13.520 Nazi Germany. 1985 01:50:13.880 --> 01:50:14.760 I feel like. 1986 01:50:14.760 --> 01:50:17.359 When you really look at it, right, when you look 1987 01:50:17.399 --> 01:50:19.800 at Hitler's economy and you look at what his nation 1988 01:50:20.000 --> 01:50:22.359 needed and what they fed on and ate off of, 1989 01:50:22.399 --> 01:50:23.319 and all of this. 1990 01:50:24.000 --> 01:50:26.600 It was a complete conquest economy. 1991 01:50:27.279 --> 01:50:30.399 Basically, he was feeding his people from the shit he 1992 01:50:30.520 --> 01:50:34.359 stole from the countries he was invading. That's why Germany 1993 01:50:34.439 --> 01:50:37.079 was eating good at that time. It wasn't that their 1994 01:50:37.199 --> 01:50:41.399 farms automatically just yielded better crops because now they're flying 1995 01:50:41.439 --> 01:50:45.239 a swastika over them. They were eating good because it 1996 01:50:45.279 --> 01:50:48.279 was food that was taken from two countries over, you 1997 01:50:48.319 --> 01:50:50.840 see what I mean. So, and that was the whole thing, 1998 01:50:50.880 --> 01:50:54.079 this socialist economy that he was rolling with, which everybody, yes, 1999 01:50:54.159 --> 01:50:58.560 that's true. The National Socialist Workers Party Nazis, that was 2000 01:50:58.560 --> 01:51:01.399 a socialist movement. His economy showed it. If you want 2001 01:51:01.439 --> 01:51:03.479 to look at it. Everything was state funded. He wanted 2002 01:51:03.479 --> 01:51:06.720 the people to be completely dependent on the state and 2003 01:51:06.840 --> 01:51:07.399 on him. 2004 01:51:07.800 --> 01:51:11.039 He was their leader, he was their furer, you know 2005 01:51:11.079 --> 01:51:11.439 what I mean. 2006 01:51:12.079 --> 01:51:15.159 So that was he wanted to be the lynchpin to 2007 01:51:15.159 --> 01:51:17.079 everybody's life. 2008 01:51:17.479 --> 01:51:22.439 With all that being said, it's just wild to me. 2009 01:51:22.520 --> 01:51:22.640 Bro. 2010 01:51:23.000 --> 01:51:25.079 He was sending people to find. 2011 01:51:24.880 --> 01:51:30.680 A cult relics in every corner of the earth that 2012 01:51:30.720 --> 01:51:33.920 he could think and all of this, all of these 2013 01:51:33.960 --> 01:51:39.279 expeditions were done by Himmler, or least spearheaded by him. 2014 01:51:40.000 --> 01:51:44.680 And let's not forget their castle, the image of the 2015 01:51:44.760 --> 01:51:48.119 scary Nazi occult castle, Jonathan, have you ever thought about 2016 01:51:48.159 --> 01:51:50.520 where that comes from? 2017 01:51:50.039 --> 01:51:50.760 M No? 2018 01:51:52.119 --> 01:51:55.680 Well prepared to learn, sir, because they're using it now. 2019 01:51:56.079 --> 01:51:58.239 For like, it seems like women to do yoga in, 2020 01:51:58.439 --> 01:52:01.199 which is kind of crazy. But check this shit out. 2021 01:52:01.199 --> 01:52:05.960 Man Cassel stands near the Tuteburg forest where Germanic tribes 2022 01:52:06.000 --> 01:52:07.159 defeated the Roman army. 2023 01:52:07.720 --> 01:52:11.640 Oh yeah, I should mention this is the Vevelsburg castle 2024 01:52:12.279 --> 01:52:14.720 we Willsburg. I don't know, but yes, that's the place 2025 01:52:14.880 --> 01:52:15.520 talking about. 2026 01:52:15.520 --> 01:52:16.720 Two thousand years ago. 2027 01:52:17.279 --> 01:52:21.319 Finally, Himmler, the Germanic tribes there were the most superior 2028 01:52:21.760 --> 01:52:25.680 culture for him, and for the SS it was very 2029 01:52:25.720 --> 01:52:30.760 important to have those relations to the past so they 2030 01:52:30.800 --> 01:52:36.039 could say, well, we are similar to the Germanic warriors. 2031 01:52:37.399 --> 01:52:41.279 Himmler was also obsessed with the medieval era, in particular 2032 01:52:41.319 --> 01:52:44.760 with Henry, the first German king, founder of the Saxon 2033 01:52:44.840 --> 01:52:48.239 dynasty and conqueror of lands in the East, a feat 2034 01:52:48.319 --> 01:52:52.479 Nazi Germany wanted to replicate. So for Vevelsberg to look 2035 01:52:52.520 --> 01:52:56.039 more medieval, Himmler ordered the plaster to be taken down 2036 01:52:56.359 --> 01:52:58.359 and a moat to be built around the castle. 2037 01:52:59.000 --> 01:53:03.520 For that reason, they established in concentration camp here from 2038 01:53:03.600 --> 01:53:07.439 nineteen thirty nine to nineteen forty five that were round 2039 01:53:07.479 --> 01:53:11.560 about three thousand and nine hundred prisoners here and at 2040 01:53:11.680 --> 01:53:15.359 least one thousand, two hundred and eighty five prisoners died. 2041 01:53:16.279 --> 01:53:20.239 Vivelsberg's rebuild was a megalomaniac plan, a plan that would 2042 01:53:20.279 --> 01:53:23.000 turn into a complex of buildings, finding out at a 2043 01:53:23.079 --> 01:53:25.600 six hundred meter radius from the north tower. 2044 01:53:26.680 --> 01:53:30.560 The northern tower is still original as it was in 2045 01:53:30.600 --> 01:53:35.520 the nineteen forties. There are two historical rooms. One is secrypt. 2046 01:53:36.479 --> 01:53:40.760 It looks like a tomb to honor that as s men. 2047 01:53:40.920 --> 01:53:45.199 You hear the acoustic effects. 2048 01:53:45.359 --> 01:53:48.279 On the ceiling. A swastika can still be seen in 2049 01:53:48.319 --> 01:53:52.000 the upper level. There's another controversial symbol connected to the 2050 01:53:52.039 --> 01:53:54.680 SS ideology of racial supremacy. 2051 01:53:55.000 --> 01:53:58.560 This was the Supreme Leader's Hall, which looks from the 2052 01:53:58.640 --> 01:54:03.079 architecture like a church, and there is a sunwheel on 2053 01:54:03.119 --> 01:54:07.960 the floor with twelve parts. For us, it is important 2054 01:54:08.520 --> 01:54:13.800 to show the symbol the black Sun, to show everyone, yes, 2055 01:54:13.840 --> 01:54:17.880 it is here, but we want to deconstruct the hour 2056 01:54:18.079 --> 01:54:23.199 of the symbol. So normally we have got those bags 2057 01:54:23.239 --> 01:54:32.479 on it, I can put them away. We know that 2058 01:54:32.800 --> 01:54:38.319 this sunwheel is a typical Indo Germanic symbol used by 2059 01:54:38.359 --> 01:54:41.439 a lot of cultures and tribes. 2060 01:54:41.800 --> 01:54:44.680 But in the nineteen nineties a book boosted a new 2061 01:54:44.680 --> 01:54:48.439 conspiracy theory claiming the black sun was used in secret 2062 01:54:48.680 --> 01:54:49.840 SS rituals. 2063 01:54:50.239 --> 01:54:54.760 This story was very, very famous in the right wing scene. 2064 01:54:55.760 --> 01:54:59.279 This is our problem. There are a lot of consparency 2065 01:55:00.119 --> 01:55:05.119 gens admit about Wiebelsburg during the S time. It starts 2066 01:55:05.199 --> 01:55:09.920 really directly after the war that forms men toetales what 2067 01:55:10.039 --> 01:55:12.720 should have been happening here. You cannot say this is 2068 01:55:12.880 --> 01:55:17.039 wrong or right because we have no written documents about that. 2069 01:55:17.119 --> 01:55:20.760 We only can say they never finished the working in 2070 01:55:20.840 --> 01:55:22.680 this place, so it was never used. 2071 01:55:23.119 --> 01:55:26.760 The only occasion the SS leadership actually gathered at Bevelsburg 2072 01:55:27.079 --> 01:55:30.079 was in June nineteen forty one, and at that time 2073 01:55:30.279 --> 01:55:33.600 the north tower was still under construction. Two years later, 2074 01:55:33.920 --> 01:55:36.840 after the defeat at Stalingrad, work at the castle was 2075 01:55:36.920 --> 01:55:40.279 halted until it was finally liberated by American troops in 2076 01:55:40.359 --> 01:55:41.439 nineteen forty five. 2077 01:55:43.000 --> 01:55:47.119 Okay, so they say that it's contested if it was 2078 01:55:47.159 --> 01:55:52.039 ever used or not. Right, the renovations were never actually completed, 2079 01:55:52.479 --> 01:55:55.680 and so all these things. Never mind the fact that 2080 01:55:55.720 --> 01:56:00.239 a concentration camp absolutely confirmed operated out of this location 2081 01:56:00.600 --> 01:56:03.319 for most of the war from thirty nine to forty five. 2082 01:56:04.159 --> 01:56:07.720 Let's also not forget that the renovations only stopped whenever 2083 01:56:07.800 --> 01:56:11.319 the war took its pivotal turn and they now were 2084 01:56:11.359 --> 01:56:15.199 on the defense rather than the offense. And let's also 2085 01:56:15.399 --> 01:56:17.560 not forget that they went as far as to renovate 2086 01:56:17.600 --> 01:56:22.640 it to have a grail room within it, literally to 2087 01:56:22.800 --> 01:56:26.039 house the Holy Grail for whenever they found it on 2088 01:56:26.039 --> 01:56:29.439 one of their expeditions. So yes, I think it's a 2089 01:56:29.439 --> 01:56:34.239 pretty safe assumption to assume that they used it pretty 2090 01:56:34.319 --> 01:56:36.439 much for the purposes that we're thinking that they used 2091 01:56:36.439 --> 01:56:40.159 it for especially with a concentration camp right there, that 2092 01:56:40.239 --> 01:56:42.520 was all they needed for their sacrificial rights. 2093 01:56:42.760 --> 01:56:47.560 Yeah, sounds about right. I mean, these people were obviously religious, 2094 01:56:47.720 --> 01:56:51.279 kind of nut jobs, and they took a lot of 2095 01:56:51.359 --> 01:56:55.239 the old stories a little bit too serious, I think. 2096 01:56:55.279 --> 01:56:59.640 But ultimately, if you're power hungry, then you're using every 2097 01:56:59.720 --> 01:57:02.439 aca that you can get your hands on. If you 2098 01:57:02.520 --> 01:57:04.760 think that the spear of destiny is going to help 2099 01:57:04.800 --> 01:57:08.079 you win war and gain you know, power and control 2100 01:57:08.199 --> 01:57:10.239 over not only your country but over the rest of 2101 01:57:10.319 --> 01:57:12.239 the world and help defeat them and all that kind 2102 01:57:12.279 --> 01:57:15.359 of shit, like it's it's an act of desperation, but 2103 01:57:15.479 --> 01:57:21.520 also of dare I even say, woo woo nut jobism? 2104 01:57:23.000 --> 01:57:26.319 This could be taken to that realm you see it? 2105 01:57:27.000 --> 01:57:28.039 I do absolutely. 2106 01:57:28.600 --> 01:57:31.720 And so let's also not forget these other relics quote 2107 01:57:31.760 --> 01:57:35.039 unquote that they were like just uncovering and discovering on 2108 01:57:35.119 --> 01:57:37.079 these expeditions. 2109 01:57:36.760 --> 01:57:40.439 Like the Chimsey Cauldron. Have you ever heard of this. 2110 01:57:40.399 --> 01:57:43.279 Sir, I don't think so. 2111 01:57:44.239 --> 01:57:45.600 Okay, So here's the story. 2112 01:57:45.800 --> 01:57:50.119 Right in two thousand and one, this diver was diving 2113 01:57:50.119 --> 01:57:53.439 in some Bavarian pond or lake or something, and he 2114 01:57:53.560 --> 01:57:57.199 sees this gold rim hanging out from the mud. He 2115 01:57:57.279 --> 01:57:59.479 goes down there and he like you know, brushes off 2116 01:57:59.479 --> 01:58:03.239 the mud and finds this golden bowl with all this 2117 01:58:03.359 --> 01:58:06.359 engravement on it. He brings it up and they they 2118 01:58:06.479 --> 01:58:08.640 think based off of where it is, that it was 2119 01:58:09.319 --> 01:58:14.560 a at one point relic being used by Hitler's occult groups, right, 2120 01:58:14.760 --> 01:58:19.000 and it was then called the Chimsey cauldron, Okay, And 2121 01:58:19.319 --> 01:58:21.640 they didn't know at the time what it was or 2122 01:58:21.640 --> 01:58:23.319 where it was from or all of these things, but 2123 01:58:23.600 --> 01:58:25.399 it made sense that the Nazis used this, and then 2124 01:58:25.399 --> 01:58:28.680 they have later writings to say that that's absolutely what 2125 01:58:28.760 --> 01:58:34.920 this was. And then so pretty much they were acting 2126 01:58:35.039 --> 01:58:39.159 is that this was some ancient bowl signifying. 2127 01:58:38.439 --> 01:58:42.000 That this was a proof of the Aryan race in 2128 01:58:42.079 --> 01:58:43.359 this area. 2129 01:58:43.720 --> 01:58:46.399 Then come to find out because again this was discovered 2130 01:58:46.439 --> 01:58:48.640 in two thousand and one, and so we have like 2131 01:58:48.680 --> 01:58:50.760 the means of testing things to see when it was 2132 01:58:50.880 --> 01:58:54.520 actually created based off of science rather than fiction and 2133 01:58:54.560 --> 01:58:57.319 things like this. So they discovered that it was actually 2134 01:58:57.319 --> 01:59:00.720 made in the nineteen thirties. Based off of them, they 2135 01:59:00.720 --> 01:59:03.640 were able to actually track down the German jeweler who 2136 01:59:03.800 --> 01:59:04.239 made it. 2137 01:59:04.319 --> 01:59:05.199 He was sworn to. 2138 01:59:05.159 --> 01:59:07.439 An NDA under Nazi penalty of death. But they're not 2139 01:59:07.479 --> 01:59:10.279 a threat anymore. So like, yeah, he straight up said, yeah, 2140 01:59:10.319 --> 01:59:12.560 I made that. I made it for the Nazi group 2141 01:59:12.600 --> 01:59:15.279 and all these things, but it didn't stop the Nazis 2142 01:59:15.319 --> 01:59:18.680 from idolizing it and using it in their occult ceremonies. 2143 01:59:19.039 --> 01:59:21.399 Yeah, it sounds about right. And like I said, I 2144 01:59:21.439 --> 01:59:23.800 think that a lot of this it doesn't necessarily even 2145 01:59:23.840 --> 01:59:27.079 have to do with truth or false. It's about belief. 2146 01:59:27.600 --> 01:59:31.079 And so if you believe that this was an Aryan relic, 2147 01:59:31.239 --> 01:59:33.159 and you get enough people to believe that it's an 2148 01:59:33.239 --> 01:59:36.239 Aryan relic, ay, dude, I mean you achieved your goal. 2149 01:59:37.079 --> 01:59:39.319 I mean that seems to be the point, right, And 2150 01:59:39.359 --> 01:59:41.079 that's the thing. So they were going out and they 2151 01:59:41.079 --> 01:59:46.319 were looking for, you know, any sign of the ancient race. 2152 01:59:46.399 --> 01:59:48.439 So if they went on a North Pole expedition and 2153 01:59:48.479 --> 01:59:51.560 it came back with nothing, they can't show that to 2154 01:59:51.600 --> 01:59:55.199 the boss, Okay, they can't show they wasted all this 2155 01:59:55.359 --> 01:59:58.279 time and money and resources when there's a fucking war 2156 01:59:58.399 --> 02:00:02.000 going on, right, And so they had to come back 2157 02:00:02.000 --> 02:00:06.680 with something. So you had certain instances where things like 2158 02:00:06.760 --> 02:00:09.640 this happened, where yeah, they went to Vienna and got 2159 02:00:09.640 --> 02:00:12.319 the Spear of Destiny. All right, that's a confirmed boom boom, 2160 02:00:12.359 --> 02:00:14.880 all right, I'm assuming that the Spear of Destiny is 2161 02:00:14.880 --> 02:00:18.239 in fact authentic and is not a forgery or a 2162 02:00:18.640 --> 02:00:20.640 not real thing in the first place, all of the stuff. 2163 02:00:20.720 --> 02:00:24.039 Right to say that they went and got the Shroud 2164 02:00:24.039 --> 02:00:26.800 of torn okay, boom boom boom. You could see, all right, 2165 02:00:26.800 --> 02:00:28.439 all right, I get it if they would have claimed 2166 02:00:28.439 --> 02:00:30.640 that they got the ark of the Covenant, fucking Indiana 2167 02:00:30.720 --> 02:00:34.119 Jones stuff, which, by the way, that spawning of the 2168 02:00:34.520 --> 02:00:37.439 Nazis archaeology team going out and finding these relics. 2169 02:00:37.520 --> 02:00:40.000 That's this, that's this group. So to say that they 2170 02:00:40.000 --> 02:00:40.640 were looking for. 2171 02:00:40.680 --> 02:00:44.199 Some ancient chalice or communal bowl like this, and but 2172 02:00:44.319 --> 02:00:46.479 like they couldn't find it in the caves of wherever. 2173 02:00:46.520 --> 02:00:49.039 So they just like hired a local jeweler to be like, yo, 2174 02:00:49.159 --> 02:00:50.880 I need you to bang this out for me real quick. 2175 02:00:50.960 --> 02:00:53.239 Throw this kind of Celtic not work, do some shit, 2176 02:00:54.159 --> 02:00:56.199 and like boss Man's none the wiser. 2177 02:00:56.680 --> 02:00:57.960 You could see how it'd be a thing. 2178 02:00:58.039 --> 02:01:02.640 Right So now, all right, Eventually Adolph kind of loses his. 2179 02:01:02.680 --> 02:01:06.279 Vigor for the occult things. 2180 02:01:06.399 --> 02:01:09.159 Right, So the war is going on in two fronts 2181 02:01:09.199 --> 02:01:11.720 and all these things, and at this point, all these 2182 02:01:11.760 --> 02:01:14.239 people there are still screaming, bro, the old ways, the 2183 02:01:14.279 --> 02:01:16.840 old gods. He's kind of like, bro, I have a 2184 02:01:16.960 --> 02:01:18.319 war that I am dealing with. 2185 02:01:18.359 --> 02:01:22.199 I don't care. It started to get a little annoying. 2186 02:01:22.800 --> 02:01:24.880 Then it got to the point where he outright just 2187 02:01:25.159 --> 02:01:28.319 washed his hands of it and like dismissed it, all 2188 02:01:28.399 --> 02:01:30.960 of it. And so let's go ahead and listen back 2189 02:01:30.960 --> 02:01:33.279 to this camp Gagnon real quick, just a few minutes 2190 02:01:33.319 --> 02:01:35.239 of it, and he does a good job of breaking 2191 02:01:35.279 --> 02:01:36.760 down what happens. 2192 02:01:36.399 --> 02:01:38.560 Next, but he gets a little frustrated. 2193 02:01:38.640 --> 02:01:42.760 So in nineteen thirty eight he actually says national socialism 2194 02:01:42.920 --> 02:01:47.159 is not a cult movement. It's not a movement for worship. 2195 02:01:47.399 --> 02:01:51.319 It is exclusively a people's political doctrine based upon racial 2196 02:01:51.359 --> 02:01:54.760 principles and its purpose. There is no mystic cult, only 2197 02:01:54.800 --> 02:01:56.760 the care and leadership of the people, defined by a 2198 02:01:56.800 --> 02:01:59.520 common blood relationship. Therefore, we have no room for worship, 2199 02:02:00.239 --> 02:02:02.880 hauls for the people, no open spaces for worship, but 2200 02:02:03.000 --> 02:02:06.439 space is for assembly and parade, and basically goes on 2201 02:02:06.479 --> 02:02:09.319 to say that a lot of the occult stuff is annoying, 2202 02:02:09.479 --> 02:02:11.920 and that he's no longer going to be allowing these 2203 02:02:11.960 --> 02:02:16.199 mystical minded occult people to you know, take away from 2204 02:02:16.239 --> 02:02:18.680 the Nazi Party. By this point, he's basically gone on 2205 02:02:18.680 --> 02:02:21.239 a full fledged war against a lot of secret societies 2206 02:02:21.279 --> 02:02:24.520 throughout Germany. I mean, he kicks out the Freemasons, he 2207 02:02:24.840 --> 02:02:26.520 cracks out on them, a lot of them are rounded 2208 02:02:26.600 --> 02:02:28.600 up and sent to the camps. Anyone else that's a 2209 02:02:28.640 --> 02:02:30.800 part of these sort of esoteric societies, like I said, 2210 02:02:31.479 --> 02:02:34.760 Lans's magazine that he was publishing, that gets kicked out 2211 02:02:34.920 --> 02:02:37.680 and the final straw and I say final because it's 2212 02:02:37.720 --> 02:02:38.520 not actually the final. 2213 02:02:38.640 --> 02:02:41.920 But Hitler gets pissed about this one moment. 2214 02:02:41.960 --> 02:02:45.640 Specifically, basically Hitler at this point in the war, this 2215 02:02:45.680 --> 02:02:48.479 is you know, into the forties, he decides to open 2216 02:02:48.560 --> 02:02:51.000 up a new front against the Soviets, against the USSR. 2217 02:02:51.199 --> 02:02:55.199 Rudolph Hess, Hitler's highest ranking deputy, his number one guy, 2218 02:02:55.319 --> 02:02:58.279 right next to him. He disagrees with the decision, and 2219 02:02:58.319 --> 02:03:01.239 he was actually right. I mean, a multi front war 2220 02:03:01.279 --> 02:03:03.439 for the Germans at the time was ultimately their downfall. 2221 02:03:03.880 --> 02:03:08.920 And Hess interestingly consults with his astrologer, someone that can 2222 02:03:08.960 --> 02:03:12.319 basically read the stars and try to assess future events 2223 02:03:12.359 --> 02:03:15.039 from you know, the way that the celestial bodies line up. 2224 02:03:15.239 --> 02:03:18.359 And Hess goes to his astrologer and meets with them, 2225 02:03:18.399 --> 02:03:20.680 and the astrologer agrees and says, hey, this is going 2226 02:03:20.760 --> 02:03:23.840 to be bad. You need to try to stop this immediately. 2227 02:03:24.000 --> 02:03:25.760 And Hess is going back and forth and he's trying 2228 02:03:25.760 --> 02:03:27.720 to talk to Hitler like, hey, don't do this, don't 2229 02:03:27.760 --> 02:03:29.720 go into Russia. That's going to be a problem. And 2230 02:03:29.800 --> 02:03:33.000 he ultimately decides to fly to England himself to broker 2231 02:03:33.039 --> 02:03:37.520 a peace deal with Winston Churchill. This eventually goes terribly. 2232 02:03:37.960 --> 02:03:41.079 There's a crash and he's captured and he's ridiculed and 2233 02:03:41.479 --> 02:03:43.279 it doesn't go good. And this is a huge scandal 2234 02:03:43.319 --> 02:03:45.000 at this time in the war, and Hitler is pissed 2235 02:03:45.039 --> 02:03:47.720 off and he's basically like, you know, what the heck 2236 02:03:47.760 --> 02:03:48.359 happened to Hess? 2237 02:03:48.359 --> 02:03:49.239 Why did he go over there? 2238 02:03:49.279 --> 02:03:51.600 And a lot of his ss men were basically like, no, 2239 02:03:51.760 --> 02:03:54.159 you know, he could talk to this crazy you know sorcerer, 2240 02:03:54.199 --> 02:03:55.800 this witchcraft guy, this occultist. 2241 02:03:55.840 --> 02:03:58.079 He told him to go over there. What's interesting is 2242 02:03:58.119 --> 02:03:59.800 that the occultist was right. 2243 02:04:00.680 --> 02:04:02.439 I don't know, I mean, maybe he got some type 2244 02:04:02.439 --> 02:04:06.359 of divine of inspiration and saw the future and was like, oh, 2245 02:04:06.399 --> 02:04:08.640 this is going to ultimately be the downfall of the Nazis. 2246 02:04:09.680 --> 02:04:11.880 Hess maybe just had a good intuition and was compelled. 2247 02:04:11.920 --> 02:04:14.239 It's not known exactly what happened, but it is pretty 2248 02:04:14.279 --> 02:04:16.720 clear that Hesse had met with his astrologer prior to 2249 02:04:16.800 --> 02:04:20.000 flying over to try to broker this piece deal. Hitler's 2250 02:04:20.000 --> 02:04:23.840 pissed about this and again ultimately dispels all occultism and 2251 02:04:23.920 --> 02:04:26.720 is pissed off. At this point, the Freemason's already out. 2252 02:04:27.039 --> 02:04:29.279 He's cracking down on everyone else that is into sorcery 2253 02:04:29.319 --> 02:04:31.239 and the occult, and a lot of them actually gets 2254 02:04:31.279 --> 02:04:35.560 sent into concentration camps. But this doesn't last long. And 2255 02:04:35.640 --> 02:04:37.640 this is maybe the most fascinating part. I mean, this 2256 02:04:37.720 --> 02:04:41.159 is just crazy. This is when the Germans literally weaponized 2257 02:04:41.159 --> 02:04:43.039 the occult. And again, a lot of this is at 2258 02:04:43.039 --> 02:04:46.840 the behest of Heinrich Himmler. Let me tell you about 2259 02:04:46.840 --> 02:04:50.960 Operation Oak. By nineteen forty three, Mussolini is the leader 2260 02:04:51.079 --> 02:04:55.159 of fascism in Italy and is in a axis power 2261 02:04:55.319 --> 02:04:57.920 with the Germans, and he's captured. Now this is bad 2262 02:04:57.960 --> 02:04:59.760 for the Germans because he's one of their allies, so 2263 02:04:59.800 --> 02:05:02.640 that Germans basically make a plan to liberate him. 2264 02:05:03.279 --> 02:05:04.279 How did they find him? 2265 02:05:04.279 --> 02:05:04.520 Though? 2266 02:05:04.600 --> 02:05:08.079 This is very difficult. Now there's this guy, doctor Eric Kurlander. 2267 02:05:08.159 --> 02:05:10.399 He wrote a book called Hitler's Monsters, and in that 2268 02:05:10.439 --> 02:05:16.319 book he suggests that Heinrich Himmler was able to work 2269 02:05:16.359 --> 02:05:19.319 with intelligence and a couple other people, and they're basically 2270 02:05:19.319 --> 02:05:21.600 able to go into the mountains of northern Italy and 2271 02:05:21.680 --> 02:05:24.079 liberate Mussolini. And they free him and they get him out. 2272 02:05:24.239 --> 02:05:26.039 We'll say, oh, it's a little bit of intelligence. And 2273 02:05:26.079 --> 02:05:29.880 we used you know, our geolocating and we had an 2274 02:05:29.960 --> 02:05:32.279 aircraft guy that went over and saw a base and 2275 02:05:32.319 --> 02:05:35.039 said we should check out there. But Heinrich Himmler was 2276 02:05:35.159 --> 02:05:38.439 adamant that they used a group of occultist who used 2277 02:05:38.439 --> 02:05:41.119 remote viewing to locate him. I know it sounds crazy, 2278 02:05:41.119 --> 02:05:43.600 but this is what Heinrich Himler believed. Many of the 2279 02:05:43.600 --> 02:05:47.439 occultists were actually taken out of concentration camps. So, like 2280 02:05:47.479 --> 02:05:49.439 I said, from the Hess action, a lot of are 2281 02:05:49.439 --> 02:05:51.520 put in concentration camps, some of them are taken out 2282 02:05:51.640 --> 02:05:53.680 and said, hey, if you have divine powers, if you're 2283 02:05:53.680 --> 02:05:56.680 able to conjure up information from the stars. If you're 2284 02:05:56.680 --> 02:05:59.079 able to do it successfully, you will be granted freedom. 2285 02:05:59.079 --> 02:06:00.920 I mean, most people want were in the conserration camps. 2286 02:06:00.960 --> 02:06:03.119 They did not get out. But yet the Germans were 2287 02:06:03.119 --> 02:06:06.319 finding these occultists and these sorcerers in the concentration camps, 2288 02:06:06.479 --> 02:06:09.399 pulling them out and then giving them tasks to work 2289 02:06:09.479 --> 02:06:12.000 with the Germans to try to locate enemy targets. And 2290 02:06:12.039 --> 02:06:13.680 that's not the only time that they did it. The 2291 02:06:13.720 --> 02:06:17.439 British were not having a great naval history going against 2292 02:06:17.439 --> 02:06:19.119 the Germans. The Germans were beating them with their U 2293 02:06:19.159 --> 02:06:22.880 boats and then the fortune kind of shifts. The British 2294 02:06:22.960 --> 02:06:25.760 all of a sudden start, you know, attacking U boats 2295 02:06:25.800 --> 02:06:29.279 with extreme precision. And this U boat Captain Hans Roeder, 2296 02:06:30.000 --> 02:06:34.800 he himself is not only you know, technically trained in physics. 2297 02:06:34.840 --> 02:06:38.039 He's a high ranking German official that's very well to 2298 02:06:38.079 --> 02:06:40.399 do in science and math and a you know, a 2299 02:06:40.520 --> 02:06:45.720 proper intelligent guy. He believes that the British are employing 2300 02:06:46.319 --> 02:06:52.840 basically a cult or mystical geolocating abilities, almost like dowsing. 2301 02:06:52.920 --> 02:06:54.119 Like I don't know if you've ever seen this, but 2302 02:06:54.159 --> 02:06:56.239 like sometimes people will walk around on property with like 2303 02:06:56.279 --> 02:06:58.520 a you know, a piece of like a stick, and 2304 02:06:58.520 --> 02:07:00.279 it's in the shape of like a y and they're 2305 02:07:00.279 --> 02:07:02.880 able to find water and they're called like water dowsers. 2306 02:07:03.159 --> 02:07:05.359 And he basically believes that that's what the British are doing, 2307 02:07:05.439 --> 02:07:07.920 is that they're on their ships and they're using remote 2308 02:07:08.000 --> 02:07:11.399 viewing from these occultists to find the German boats. And 2309 02:07:11.479 --> 02:07:13.000 he comes up with an idea that says, hey, if 2310 02:07:13.000 --> 02:07:14.840 the British are doing it, we need to do it. 2311 02:07:15.159 --> 02:07:18.079 So they literally create what's known as the Pendulum Institute 2312 02:07:18.279 --> 02:07:21.800 and this is used basically as an appropriate countermeasure against 2313 02:07:21.800 --> 02:07:26.039 the British. He receives approval from high ranking German naval 2314 02:07:26.079 --> 02:07:29.479 intelligence in September of nineteen forty two, and Rotor proceeds 2315 02:07:29.520 --> 02:07:34.119 to recruit like an army of pendulum dowsers as well 2316 02:07:34.119 --> 02:07:39.680 as astrologers and clairvoyance and psychics, and he uses them 2317 02:07:40.079 --> 02:07:43.960 basically to find different British ships. And he would place 2318 02:07:44.000 --> 02:07:47.520 like a tiny toy or like a tiny battleship and 2319 02:07:47.560 --> 02:07:49.720 a large map of the Atlantic and he would put 2320 02:07:49.720 --> 02:07:51.199 it across the whole table and he would tell the 2321 02:07:51.199 --> 02:07:53.199 occultists like, hey, I want you to want you to 2322 02:07:53.239 --> 02:07:55.359 look at the board and just tell me where are we, like, 2323 02:07:55.399 --> 02:07:57.880 where is the enemy ships? And he would swing the 2324 02:07:57.920 --> 02:08:00.720 sort of this pendulum around and it was supposed to 2325 02:08:00.760 --> 02:08:04.199 indicate the presence of real enemy battleships in that location. 2326 02:08:04.359 --> 02:08:08.079 I mean, it sounds crazy, and by most experts estimations, 2327 02:08:08.239 --> 02:08:10.800 the experiment was a huge failure and didn't produce any 2328 02:08:10.840 --> 02:08:14.119 meaningful results, and a lot of like the you know, 2329 02:08:14.239 --> 02:08:18.119 Nazi officials that were involved in this kind of disavowed 2330 02:08:18.159 --> 02:08:20.600 it much later, like after the war had ended. Some 2331 02:08:20.720 --> 02:08:23.600 of them, either in private journals or even uh in 2332 02:08:23.760 --> 02:08:26.640 interviews or privately to people that knew them, kind of said, ah, no, 2333 02:08:26.840 --> 02:08:29.000 this you know, that stuff was bs. It didn't really work, 2334 02:08:29.079 --> 02:08:30.000 and they kind. 2335 02:08:29.880 --> 02:08:30.760 Of brush it off. 2336 02:08:31.039 --> 02:08:33.960 But in their personal diaries at the time, they claimed 2337 02:08:33.960 --> 02:08:35.960 that it worked amazingly well, and they said that they 2338 02:08:35.960 --> 02:08:38.359 were able to use remote viewing from these occultists that 2339 02:08:38.399 --> 02:08:40.840 they were able to find in these concentration camps to 2340 02:08:41.119 --> 02:08:44.720 basically locate British ships across the Atlantic. 2341 02:08:45.920 --> 02:08:51.560 Okay, so what are your thoughts on that, brother, Yeah, 2342 02:08:51.720 --> 02:08:54.520 just desperation personally, I think that was going on. I mean, 2343 02:08:54.560 --> 02:08:57.159 you're whenever you're dipping your toes back into the people 2344 02:08:57.199 --> 02:09:00.720 that you locked up. It's like that is the ultimate 2345 02:09:00.800 --> 02:09:06.439 act of desperation, whenever you're looking to essentially your slaves 2346 02:09:07.439 --> 02:09:11.039 for help. And is that not the most desperate thing 2347 02:09:11.079 --> 02:09:11.520 you can do? 2348 02:09:12.840 --> 02:09:14.920 I mean yes, But at the same time, that means 2349 02:09:14.920 --> 02:09:18.439 that he didn't disbelieve in it. He wrote it off 2350 02:09:18.520 --> 02:09:21.199 because he got annoyed by it, but he never actually 2351 02:09:21.279 --> 02:09:25.439 lost the faith of the occult being real. There was 2352 02:09:25.520 --> 02:09:28.600 still that religious zealot somewhere deep down in him even 2353 02:09:28.680 --> 02:09:33.640 at the end. So by his own alleged account, he 2354 02:09:33.720 --> 02:09:36.159 didn't even off himself until the spear of destiny was 2355 02:09:36.199 --> 02:09:37.479 no longer in his possession. 2356 02:09:38.239 --> 02:09:41.439 I mean, desperate times call for desperate measures. An atheist 2357 02:09:41.600 --> 02:09:44.119 is an atheist until you know the plane's going down. 2358 02:09:44.239 --> 02:09:46.319 Then you're praying to God. You know, kind of shit. 2359 02:09:47.079 --> 02:09:53.279 Okay, okay, I can see that. I mean, yeah, fair, okay, okay, 2360 02:09:53.560 --> 02:09:53.960 all right. 2361 02:09:54.720 --> 02:09:59.680 But at the same time, Pendulum Society, the Pendulum Institute 2362 02:09:59.720 --> 02:10:02.439 would I thought that was kind of cool that, like, 2363 02:10:02.479 --> 02:10:06.159 because you know, pendulum sigil stuff like that is being 2364 02:10:06.319 --> 02:10:08.920 used to look for things on a map. 2365 02:10:09.000 --> 02:10:11.119 That's that's kind of a blending of the woo woo dog. 2366 02:10:12.119 --> 02:10:14.039 Of course it is. It's a fucking a cult, dude. 2367 02:10:14.079 --> 02:10:16.279 It's all woo woo it. 2368 02:10:16.399 --> 02:10:16.880 I dig it. 2369 02:10:16.920 --> 02:10:20.479 And as you can see, in even desperate times, this 2370 02:10:20.560 --> 02:10:23.399 is another time when the Nazis were using the occult 2371 02:10:23.560 --> 02:10:26.640 for their principles, their practices, whatever you want to call it. 2372 02:10:27.479 --> 02:10:30.079 Now we talked a little bit about the Catholic Church 2373 02:10:30.560 --> 02:10:33.560 and how they saw Hitler. Now keep in mind, he 2374 02:10:33.680 --> 02:10:37.479 was baptized and was confirmed when he was fifteen years old, 2375 02:10:37.520 --> 02:10:40.760 So like, as far as the Pope was concerned, Hitler 2376 02:10:40.880 --> 02:10:44.680 was one of his flock at the end of the day, 2377 02:10:45.039 --> 02:10:47.680 because the Catholic Church doesn't believe in They of that 2378 02:10:47.760 --> 02:10:49.319 until you get excommunicated. 2379 02:10:49.399 --> 02:10:53.960 Now was he excommunicated? Was he not? They did believe 2380 02:10:54.000 --> 02:10:55.920 that he was possessed for a time. 2381 02:10:55.920 --> 02:11:01.560 As a matter of fact, the Pope tried to uh exercise. 2382 02:11:00.960 --> 02:11:03.600 Hitler's demon from Rome allegedly. 2383 02:11:03.640 --> 02:11:06.319 If we are to believe the story, We're gonna go 2384 02:11:06.319 --> 02:11:09.000 ahead and read this video. 2385 02:11:09.119 --> 02:11:11.520 It's got music behind it, but it's actually just words. 2386 02:11:12.159 --> 02:11:14.680 If I'm not mistaken, and let's just go ahead and 2387 02:11:15.000 --> 02:11:16.039 see what it's about here. 2388 02:11:16.279 --> 02:11:19.760 How did Catholics oppose Hitler in the Nazis. The Nazis 2389 02:11:19.800 --> 02:11:22.439 feared the Catholic Church much more than the Protestant Church, 2390 02:11:22.479 --> 02:11:25.760 as it was a much more unified, powerful and global 2391 02:11:25.880 --> 02:11:29.800 organization based outside Germany. At the Vatican in Rome, up 2392 02:11:29.840 --> 02:11:32.680 to forty percent of Germans were Catholic, and Hitler was 2393 02:11:32.720 --> 02:11:36.319 careful to maintain their loyalty as much as possible. It 2394 02:11:36.359 --> 02:11:39.439 was clear, however, that the nineteen thirty three Concordant or 2395 02:11:39.520 --> 02:11:42.840 agreement between the Nazis and the Catholic Church was undermined. 2396 02:11:43.600 --> 02:11:48.439 Despite increasing Nazi control of monasteries and finance and much 2397 02:11:48.479 --> 02:11:52.800 more Gestapo interference, the Catholic Church did successfully oppose the 2398 02:11:52.840 --> 02:11:55.960 Nazi state in a number of ways. In nineteen thirty seven, 2399 02:11:56.079 --> 02:12:01.680 Pope Pious issued an encyclical which was highly critical of 2400 02:12:01.760 --> 02:12:05.079 Hitler and the Nazis. It was smuggled into Germany and 2401 02:12:05.359 --> 02:12:09.199 read out in Catholic churches. He called the Nazi policies 2402 02:12:10.760 --> 02:12:12.680 air bubble, un. 2403 02:12:12.680 --> 02:12:14.399 Christ like, I mean fair enough. 2404 02:12:14.760 --> 02:12:18.520 Catholics successfully campaigned against Nazi policies to remove the crucifix 2405 02:12:18.520 --> 02:12:22.279 from buildings like schools. However, its most successful opponent to 2406 02:12:22.439 --> 02:12:28.319 the Nazis was Bishop Galen. Clemens van Galen was the 2407 02:12:28.560 --> 02:12:31.520 Catholic Bishop of Munster. He became known as the Lion 2408 02:12:31.560 --> 02:12:33.880 of Munster for his vocal opposition to some of the 2409 02:12:33.960 --> 02:12:38.760 Nazi policies. He criticized the Gestapo and increasing Nazi controls 2410 02:12:38.760 --> 02:12:43.680 over church finances and monasteries. However, it is his opposition 2411 02:12:43.760 --> 02:12:46.840 to the Nazi T four euthanasia program which he is 2412 02:12:46.880 --> 02:12:49.359 best known for. This was a program set up to 2413 02:12:49.439 --> 02:12:53.119 kill thousands of mentally and physically challenged individuals throughout Germany. 2414 02:12:53.439 --> 02:12:55.960 Up to seventy thousand had been killed by nineteen forty one, 2415 02:12:56.039 --> 02:13:00.760 when Bishop Galen publicly denounced the scheme, seventy thousand. Amazingly, 2416 02:13:00.800 --> 02:13:03.680 the Nazis took notice of such a high profile figure 2417 02:13:03.760 --> 02:13:07.720 like Bishop Galen and halted the program, at least officially. However, 2418 02:13:07.840 --> 02:13:12.119 these successes were not without major limitations. The Catholic Church 2419 02:13:12.159 --> 02:13:15.760 missed the opportunity to be much more effective through coordinating 2420 02:13:15.800 --> 02:13:19.960 their opposition alongside Protestant opposition to the Nazis. Despite Bishop 2421 02:13:20.000 --> 02:13:23.359 Galen's nineteen forty one T four success, in reality, the 2422 02:13:23.439 --> 02:13:27.199 Nazis kept on their euthanasia program in secret. Up to 2423 02:13:27.239 --> 02:13:30.640 two hundred thousand people were killed. The Nazis did not 2424 02:13:30.840 --> 02:13:33.880 want to imprison or kill such a high profile figure. However, 2425 02:13:34.039 --> 02:13:37.600 they got their revenge by executing a number of priests. Indeed, 2426 02:13:37.680 --> 02:13:40.399 hundreds of priests were imprisoned and killed for their opposition. 2427 02:13:40.800 --> 02:13:44.479 Perhaps its greatest fault was its muted opposition to the 2428 02:13:44.520 --> 02:13:48.119 persecution of the Jews, although many brave Catholics did take 2429 02:13:48.279 --> 02:13:50.800 enormous personal risks to hide Jews throughout the war. 2430 02:13:52.560 --> 02:13:56.359 There's documented cases of that of course, So the Catholics, 2431 02:13:56.399 --> 02:13:59.159 as we can see, were not pro Hitler by any means. 2432 02:13:59.239 --> 02:14:03.239 A matter of fact, Hitler was killing priests, so we 2433 02:14:03.359 --> 02:14:05.279 and again, like I said, there was a whole thing 2434 02:14:05.319 --> 02:14:08.720 about the Pope believing that he was possessed and like 2435 02:14:08.840 --> 02:14:13.560 having a team try to exercise him via multiple miles away, 2436 02:14:13.720 --> 02:14:15.920 like off of some Wi Fi type shit. I thought 2437 02:14:15.920 --> 02:14:19.439 it was more of a up close and personal type thing. 2438 02:14:19.479 --> 02:14:21.720 I didn't think you could exercise a demon from a 2439 02:14:21.720 --> 02:14:25.439 different area code, but apparently a certain contingent of. 2440 02:14:25.359 --> 02:14:26.399 The Catholic faith did. 2441 02:14:26.880 --> 02:14:29.479 But all of this going down and now we find 2442 02:14:29.520 --> 02:14:34.000 out that there is secret bank channels between Pope Pious 2443 02:14:34.039 --> 02:14:38.359 and Adolf Hitler. So even after it was confirmed that 2444 02:14:38.439 --> 02:14:42.000 Adolf Hitler was killing Catholic priests and all these things, 2445 02:14:42.039 --> 02:14:44.800 and he was dabbling into the occult, and he was 2446 02:14:44.840 --> 02:14:48.159 reading a book talking about how Satan seed is the 2447 02:14:48.159 --> 02:14:51.000 only way that you'll ever have a new world. Come 2448 02:14:51.079 --> 02:14:54.399 to find out, his Holiness and Adolph were a little 2449 02:14:54.439 --> 02:14:56.760 more of a homies than what we originally thought. 2450 02:14:57.039 --> 02:14:57.479 Shocker. 2451 02:14:58.880 --> 02:15:02.399 An Vatican arc are shedding new light on the relationship 2452 02:15:02.439 --> 02:15:06.000 between Pope Pius the twelfth and Adolph Hitler as he 2453 02:15:06.119 --> 02:15:09.840 led Nazi Germany during World War Two. The Navaz looks 2454 02:15:09.880 --> 02:15:12.239 at what we are learning and how it changes our 2455 02:15:12.319 --> 02:15:14.680 thinking about the Vatican during that time. 2456 02:15:15.880 --> 02:15:16.119 Judy. 2457 02:15:16.199 --> 02:15:19.479 In twenty twenty, the Vatican released millions of documents on 2458 02:15:19.560 --> 02:15:22.119 Pope Pius the twelfth that were previously. 2459 02:15:21.680 --> 02:15:22.840 Hidden from public view. 2460 02:15:23.159 --> 02:15:27.720 These include transcripts of negotiations between the Pope and Nazis. 2461 02:15:28.079 --> 02:15:28.880 A new book. 2462 02:15:28.680 --> 02:15:32.439 Published today takes a deeper look at these revelations. Historian 2463 02:15:32.560 --> 02:15:35.159 David Kurtzer is the author of that book. It's called 2464 02:15:35.199 --> 02:15:38.760 The Pope at War, The Secret History of Pius the Twelfth, 2465 02:15:38.880 --> 02:15:42.439 Mussolini and Hitler. And he joins me now, David Kurtzer, 2466 02:15:42.479 --> 02:15:44.520 Welcome to the News Hour. Thank you for being here. 2467 02:15:44.560 --> 02:15:47.239 So a lot of folks know previous versions of history 2468 02:15:47.600 --> 02:15:50.039 around Pius the twelfth. One of two ways, right, he 2469 02:15:50.119 --> 02:15:53.680 was either called Hitler's Pope and an anti Semite, or 2470 02:15:54.039 --> 02:15:56.119 the story was that he did everything in his power 2471 02:15:56.199 --> 02:15:58.840 to save as many Jewish people as he could during 2472 02:15:58.840 --> 02:16:01.960 the war. The documents, what's your understanding? 2473 02:16:03.000 --> 02:16:06.439 Well, I think neither one is really accurate. They're both extremes. 2474 02:16:07.359 --> 02:16:11.520 The fact is Pius the twelfth was afraid, certainly in 2475 02:16:11.520 --> 02:16:13.479 the first years of the war, that the Nazis were 2476 02:16:13.560 --> 02:16:15.399 going to win, and so he felt he had to 2477 02:16:15.439 --> 02:16:18.319 plan for Europe that was going to be under Nazi 2478 02:16:18.319 --> 02:16:24.199 control with their pal Mussolini helping out. So his main 2479 02:16:24.279 --> 02:16:27.119 concern in those early years, say thirty nine to forty two, 2480 02:16:27.880 --> 02:16:32.040 was to protect the church in a time when it 2481 02:16:32.079 --> 02:16:34.920 would Europe could be under Nazi control. It wasn't that 2482 02:16:34.959 --> 02:16:38.479 he loved the Nazis much less Hitler, but this was 2483 02:16:38.520 --> 02:16:39.079 his thinking. 2484 02:16:39.639 --> 02:16:41.760 What does that mean when you say protect the church? 2485 02:16:41.760 --> 02:16:44.440 For example, we mentioned these meetings that we now know 2486 02:16:44.680 --> 02:16:47.520 happened between the pope and a personal envoy of Hitler. 2487 02:16:47.559 --> 02:16:49.639 What did we learn about those What were those talks like? 2488 02:16:50.440 --> 02:16:53.719 Well, probably the most shocking finding from these newly open 2489 02:16:53.840 --> 02:16:57.000 Vatican archives that just opened two years ago after fifty 2490 02:16:57.079 --> 02:17:00.319 years of pressure and interest in being able to see 2491 02:17:00.319 --> 02:17:04.600 what they contained. Is that within weeks of Pistol being 2492 02:17:04.600 --> 02:17:07.959 elected Pope, he's elected in early nineteen thirty nine, Hitler 2493 02:17:07.959 --> 02:17:12.120 saw an opportunity and decided to send a personal envoy, 2494 02:17:12.559 --> 02:17:17.159 who himself is a rather colorful character, the great grandson 2495 02:17:17.200 --> 02:17:21.159 of Queen Victoria of England, a Nazi prince who is 2496 02:17:21.280 --> 02:17:24.840 married to the daughter of the King of Italy, and 2497 02:17:24.959 --> 02:17:27.479 he would begin to shuttle back and forth between Hitler 2498 02:17:27.520 --> 02:17:30.520 and the Pope over the next two years, engaged in 2499 02:17:30.600 --> 02:17:32.040 secret negotiations. 2500 02:17:32.520 --> 02:17:36.000 I'm sorry, can we just acknowledge what he just said? 2501 02:17:37.040 --> 02:17:40.840 Hitler sent as his personal envoy to the new Pope 2502 02:17:40.920 --> 02:17:43.879 just as a hey, homie, welcome to your office. Just 2503 02:17:43.959 --> 02:17:47.159 so you know, here's me, here's what I'm about. He 2504 02:17:47.399 --> 02:17:52.639 sends a member of the British royal family who's married 2505 02:17:52.959 --> 02:17:56.799 to the Italian royal family, who is also a card 2506 02:17:56.920 --> 02:17:58.920 carrying proud totan Nazi. 2507 02:18:00.120 --> 02:18:01.360 Go say what's up to the pope. 2508 02:18:02.520 --> 02:18:06.200 That's a that's a flex a little bit of one, 2509 02:18:07.360 --> 02:18:10.399 and just showing the connections where they are. 2510 02:18:10.719 --> 02:18:12.959 Good cult members. That's just what we do here. Anyway, 2511 02:18:13.200 --> 02:18:13.840 Let's press on. 2512 02:18:14.040 --> 02:18:16.680 Oh, go ahead, I was gonna say, I mean, I 2513 02:18:16.879 --> 02:18:19.840 have personally held the belief that the Catholics are just 2514 02:18:19.920 --> 02:18:23.040 as into the Occult as the Satanist personally, But that's 2515 02:18:23.079 --> 02:18:24.440 just my opinion. Don't fry me. 2516 02:18:25.159 --> 02:18:27.760 Well, I mean, with that being said, in the old ties, 2517 02:18:27.840 --> 02:18:29.440 let's keep in mind that the as I said, the 2518 02:18:29.440 --> 02:18:33.799 British royal family, they are of German blood, right, the 2519 02:18:33.840 --> 02:18:37.920 Habsburgs are of German descent, So there's old blood ties 2520 02:18:37.959 --> 02:18:40.280 on that one as well. 2521 02:18:40.479 --> 02:18:41.360 Big facts. 2522 02:18:41.879 --> 02:18:42.920 All right, let's keep going. 2523 02:18:44.280 --> 02:18:47.280 We didn't know about these till just now. 2524 02:18:48.040 --> 02:18:48.319 David. 2525 02:18:48.319 --> 02:18:50.680 When it comes down to what Popius the twelfth did 2526 02:18:50.799 --> 02:18:53.079 or didn't do in terms of saving Jewish lives, you 2527 02:18:53.120 --> 02:18:56.200 tell the story about one October night in nineteen forty 2528 02:18:56.239 --> 02:18:57.000 three in Rome. 2529 02:18:57.040 --> 02:19:03.079 What happened then, Well, October nineteen forty three, the SS 2530 02:19:03.239 --> 02:19:06.200 had lists of all the Jews in Rome and went 2531 02:19:06.280 --> 02:19:10.440 door to door and tried to arrest all of Rome's Jews, 2532 02:19:10.680 --> 02:19:13.879 thousands of them. They found about twelve hundred and sixty, 2533 02:19:14.040 --> 02:19:18.200 arrested them, brought them to a military college just outside 2534 02:19:18.239 --> 02:19:21.280 the walls of the Vatican and held them there for 2535 02:19:21.319 --> 02:19:24.680 two days. What we now learned from these recently opened 2536 02:19:24.799 --> 02:19:30.040 archives is that the Vatican worked very hard to show 2537 02:19:30.440 --> 02:19:33.200 that some of them had been baptized and therefore shouldn't 2538 02:19:33.200 --> 02:19:35.120 be considered Jews from the point of view of the Church, 2539 02:19:35.120 --> 02:19:37.719 and therefore should not be chipped off to Auschwitz with 2540 02:19:37.760 --> 02:19:40.559 the rest of them. And in fact, about two hundred 2541 02:19:40.559 --> 02:19:44.399 and fifty of those who were originally rounded up were 2542 02:19:44.559 --> 02:19:47.840 freed before two days later they were put on a train. 2543 02:19:48.280 --> 02:19:51.879 One thousand and seven of them, of whom I think 2544 02:19:51.879 --> 02:19:54.840 about sixteen would would survive, and most, in fact, a 2545 02:19:54.879 --> 02:19:58.600 week later, on arrival at Auschwitz, were immediately put to death. 2546 02:19:59.360 --> 02:20:02.479 The Pope did send his Cardinal Secretary of State to 2547 02:20:02.559 --> 02:20:06.200 meet with the German ambassador of the Holy See to 2548 02:20:06.479 --> 02:20:08.760 say do you really need to go through this? Can 2549 02:20:08.879 --> 02:20:12.239 you do something about this? But the ambassador told the 2550 02:20:12.239 --> 02:20:14.360 Cardinal Secretary of State this has been ordered by the 2551 02:20:14.440 --> 02:20:17.120 highest level, namely Hitler, and you really don't want me 2552 02:20:17.159 --> 02:20:20.159 to protest on your behalf, do you? And the Cardinal 2553 02:20:20.239 --> 02:20:23.479 Secretary of State basically said no, I'm not insisting on 2554 02:20:23.520 --> 02:20:24.440 any protest. 2555 02:20:24.879 --> 02:20:25.120 David. 2556 02:20:25.159 --> 02:20:28.399 I'm curious, I know previously that Okay, so. 2557 02:20:29.200 --> 02:20:31.840 The Pope tried to do everything he could to save 2558 02:20:31.879 --> 02:20:34.000 two hundred and fifty of them. 2559 02:20:35.000 --> 02:20:38.280 I just want to say this, is it not striking 2560 02:20:38.680 --> 02:20:43.799 that the Pope would have more to say to Hitler 2561 02:20:44.000 --> 02:20:49.120 than even Trump? Yeah, isn't that weird? 2562 02:20:50.319 --> 02:20:53.079 Yeah? I just want to throw that out there, back 2563 02:20:53.159 --> 02:20:54.000 channel and all of this. 2564 02:20:54.159 --> 02:20:58.040 Meanwhile, our current pope has nothing for Trump except a 2565 02:20:58.079 --> 02:20:59.319 book on climate change. 2566 02:21:00.120 --> 02:21:04.559 Even if Trump is literally Hitler, give the Hitler, give 2567 02:21:04.639 --> 02:21:08.600 him the the the Hitler meet up at least, I mean, yeah, 2568 02:21:08.639 --> 02:21:10.719 I know they met up and everything, but my god, 2569 02:21:10.760 --> 02:21:12.079 that was an unpleasant meeting. 2570 02:21:13.000 --> 02:21:15.319 I mean, don't get me wrong. Every president meets with 2571 02:21:15.360 --> 02:21:18.559 the pope. A lot of leaders of countries meet with 2572 02:21:18.600 --> 02:21:20.600 the pope every year. Like I get this, Oh the 2573 02:21:20.600 --> 02:21:26.200 Pope loved Biden. Yeah, well Biden's Catholic, so yeah, that 2574 02:21:26.319 --> 02:21:29.559 checks out. But anyway, I'm just saying, there's there's these connections. 2575 02:21:29.600 --> 02:21:32.360 We're gonna keep going here. But like he only cared 2576 02:21:32.360 --> 02:21:34.399 about the ones that he could prove were baptized, and 2577 02:21:34.440 --> 02:21:36.319 then two days later they were just rounded up and 2578 02:21:36.319 --> 02:21:36.920 brought forward. 2579 02:21:36.959 --> 02:21:37.959 Anyway, it didn't matter. 2580 02:21:38.399 --> 02:21:41.840 So like, yeah, he did everything he could the Pope 2581 02:21:42.040 --> 02:21:46.399 uh God say all right, let's. 2582 02:21:46.319 --> 02:21:49.760 Keep going attic and has come forward when previous allegations 2583 02:21:49.799 --> 02:21:52.399 were made similar to this about Pope Pius the twelfth. 2584 02:21:52.399 --> 02:21:54.879 Have they responded it anyway to your book or to 2585 02:21:54.959 --> 02:21:56.760 the reporting that's in this book. 2586 02:21:58.399 --> 02:22:03.360 Well, unfortunately, I'm the other national Roman Catholic churches, for example, 2587 02:22:03.440 --> 02:22:05.680 in France and in Germany, have come to terms with 2588 02:22:05.760 --> 02:22:09.440 this history. And part of the history is how was 2589 02:22:09.600 --> 02:22:14.559 that in the middle of the twentieth century the millions 2590 02:22:14.559 --> 02:22:17.680 of Jews could be massacreed, little children, old people by 2591 02:22:17.680 --> 02:22:20.479 people who thought of themselves as Christian, more or less 2592 02:22:20.479 --> 02:22:23.239 half of them Roman Catholics, but also Protestants of course, 2593 02:22:23.879 --> 02:22:27.360 And in other countries in Germany and France, the clergy 2594 02:22:27.399 --> 02:22:29.399 has come to terms or begun to come to terms 2595 02:22:29.399 --> 02:22:32.159 with it, but the Vatican has not. The Vatican released 2596 02:22:32.159 --> 02:22:34.799 a statement in I think nineteen ninety eight we remember, 2597 02:22:35.239 --> 02:22:39.799 in which they said their own demonization of the Jews 2598 02:22:40.239 --> 02:22:43.319 had absolutely nothing to do with the Holocaust. So this 2599 02:22:43.520 --> 02:22:46.680 is I think my book is probably not entirely appreciated 2600 02:22:47.440 --> 02:22:50.879 by many in the Vatican, although there are those in 2601 02:22:50.959 --> 02:22:53.399 the Vatican when I work in the archives who whispered 2602 02:22:53.440 --> 02:22:56.479 to me, they're happy that this is finally coming out. 2603 02:22:57.079 --> 02:22:59.159 What about how we view all these years later the 2604 02:22:59.239 --> 02:23:02.680 role of Pope the twelfth as leadership of the church. 2605 02:23:02.719 --> 02:23:05.799 I mean, especially with there's being a push for his sainthood, right, 2606 02:23:05.959 --> 02:23:07.639 how should we look at that when you step back. 2607 02:23:08.520 --> 02:23:13.920 Yeah, so the popes have tried to beatify and canonized 2608 02:23:14.000 --> 02:23:19.440 make Pis the twelfth a saint. He is a hero 2609 02:23:19.600 --> 02:23:21.920 of the right wing of the conservatives in the church 2610 02:23:22.239 --> 02:23:24.920 who see the churches having gone wrong after his death, 2611 02:23:24.959 --> 02:23:29.239 with a second Vatican Council under his successor, John the 2612 02:23:29.239 --> 02:23:33.440 twenty third. I wish that, First of all, I wish 2613 02:23:33.479 --> 02:23:35.559 they'd read this book, but I also wish they'd be 2614 02:23:35.600 --> 02:23:41.200 willing to consider this history anew But I'm afraid for 2615 02:23:41.319 --> 02:23:44.879 those really don't have an open mind, and it's unlikely 2616 02:23:44.959 --> 02:23:47.079 that it will change their mind. So I think the 2617 02:23:47.239 --> 02:23:49.879 drive to make a saint of Pis the twelfth will continue, 2618 02:23:51.479 --> 02:23:52.680 And indeed. 2619 02:23:52.760 --> 02:23:57.280 Indeed so I can't believe that that guy was actually 2620 02:23:57.840 --> 02:24:00.079 being appointed for canon. 2621 02:24:01.319 --> 02:24:02.040 That's wild. 2622 02:24:02.120 --> 02:24:06.239 The same way Mother Teresa cannot believe, especially now that 2623 02:24:06.280 --> 02:24:08.760 we know everything that we know about her, the money hoarding, 2624 02:24:08.840 --> 02:24:11.319 how she was doing things with these kids, the trafficking 2625 02:24:11.360 --> 02:24:15.040 and all, like she is still considered a saint right now? 2626 02:24:16.239 --> 02:24:19.799 Oh yeah, I mean, what does it even mean anymore? 2627 02:24:19.879 --> 02:24:23.719 You know what I mean? Like, that's like just a weird, 2628 02:24:23.840 --> 02:24:28.000 fucking fancy title. It's like I don't agree with calling 2629 02:24:28.920 --> 02:24:32.879 a spiritual advisor a father because you know, it's just 2630 02:24:33.079 --> 02:24:35.680 it's weird, and you know, you're I don't know, I'm 2631 02:24:35.680 --> 02:24:37.280 not going to get into that. I've already talked about 2632 02:24:37.319 --> 02:24:40.200 that before, but yeah, it's all strange. Whenever you look 2633 02:24:40.239 --> 02:24:44.360 into the deep ties and certain connections that certain people 2634 02:24:44.399 --> 02:24:47.559 had over the years, it starts to really reshape your 2635 02:24:47.600 --> 02:24:49.479 thoughts about history, I think. 2636 02:24:50.079 --> 02:24:54.200 Indeed indeed, and also just to kind of wrap up 2637 02:24:54.239 --> 02:24:58.719 that last loose in the submarine map to get to 2638 02:24:58.799 --> 02:25:02.680 the entrance to Hollow Earth. All right, here here's the 2639 02:25:02.840 --> 02:25:04.840 entirety of what I could find on that with a 2640 02:25:05.079 --> 02:25:06.079 lot of digging. 2641 02:25:07.360 --> 02:25:09.719 The KGB has this document. 2642 02:25:10.399 --> 02:25:14.120 Even though it has and this is the official narrative, 2643 02:25:15.399 --> 02:25:18.440 it is clearly false. There's no way that's possible. There's 2644 02:25:18.479 --> 02:25:21.719 nothing there about Bob bop okay allegedly. 2645 02:25:22.799 --> 02:25:23.799 Off the record. 2646 02:25:23.879 --> 02:25:27.559 Of course, Why does the KGB have this document? They 2647 02:25:27.600 --> 02:25:30.280 say that it was recovered from a Nazi base when 2648 02:25:30.280 --> 02:25:32.440 they were coming in from that front of the war, 2649 02:25:32.840 --> 02:25:35.840 and they started finding these scientists and finding these laboratories. 2650 02:25:35.879 --> 02:25:38.680 As much as the Allied forces on one side, the 2651 02:25:38.719 --> 02:25:41.920 American forces were trying to get to Berlin. The Soviets 2652 02:25:41.920 --> 02:25:43.920 were also racing to get to Berlin. It was a 2653 02:25:43.920 --> 02:25:45.760 whole thing to see who would get there first, right, 2654 02:25:46.399 --> 02:25:49.719 and so they were both snatching up these scientists and 2655 02:25:49.760 --> 02:25:53.559 snatching up these documents and all these things. Apparently this 2656 02:25:53.680 --> 02:25:56.479 document came from one of these bases, and it is 2657 02:25:56.639 --> 02:26:00.959 a actual thing. Where did it come from? Allegedly the 2658 02:26:01.159 --> 02:26:06.399 South Pole? Allegedly the South Pole the entrance to Hollow Earth, 2659 02:26:06.639 --> 02:26:11.000 if we are to believe this document is only accessible 2660 02:26:11.239 --> 02:26:18.559 via submarine at the South Pole. That being said, all 2661 02:26:18.639 --> 02:26:21.639 official sources have discredited and said that it's not real, 2662 02:26:21.799 --> 02:26:26.360 but the document still exists, so there's at least that 2663 02:26:26.479 --> 02:26:27.159 kernel of truth. 2664 02:26:27.200 --> 02:26:27.360 Bro. 2665 02:26:28.120 --> 02:26:31.280 Yeah, I mean, of course, the official documents are going 2666 02:26:31.360 --> 02:26:34.879 to say that Hollow Earth doesn't exist, like you know, 2667 02:26:35.040 --> 02:26:37.840 it's like, uh, it's like the official documents are going 2668 02:26:37.879 --> 02:26:39.120 to say that NASA's never. 2669 02:26:39.000 --> 02:26:42.479 Lied absolutely from Nazi scientists. 2670 02:26:42.760 --> 02:26:45.719 Shockingly enough, right, but so all right, So there is 2671 02:26:45.799 --> 02:26:49.639 basically the entire ins and outs of the Nazi occult symbolism, 2672 02:26:49.920 --> 02:26:53.399 their uniforms being black, the red from the blood flag, 2673 02:26:53.479 --> 02:26:58.319 the swastika itself coming from Ostara, which was a neopaganism, 2674 02:26:58.719 --> 02:27:02.000 uh spin off with a little bit of Blovotsky thrown in. 2675 02:27:02.079 --> 02:27:04.239 Even though she she was not a part of the Nazis. 2676 02:27:04.319 --> 02:27:06.200 Keep that mind, I brought her up earlier, but she 2677 02:27:06.600 --> 02:27:09.799 is not a Nazi in any way, shape or form. 2678 02:27:10.040 --> 02:27:12.520 Like her, Hate her whatever you want. 2679 02:27:13.440 --> 02:27:17.680 She's an occultist. She had some outlandish beliefs. Some people 2680 02:27:17.680 --> 02:27:19.399 believed it to be facts. Some people thought it was 2681 02:27:19.479 --> 02:27:22.680 interesting reading material. Take it for what you want. Okay, 2682 02:27:22.680 --> 02:27:25.559 this wasn't about her, but we had to look at 2683 02:27:25.719 --> 02:27:28.959 how and why Germany was actually taking this to heart, 2684 02:27:29.399 --> 02:27:33.920 even though they were mostly Christian quote unquote, this culture 2685 02:27:34.399 --> 02:27:38.120 of Nazism started sweeping the nation and these people started 2686 02:27:38.159 --> 02:27:41.079 practicing it in their everyday life the same way, like, 2687 02:27:41.159 --> 02:27:44.680 for instance, in America, the Christmas tree that is not 2688 02:27:44.799 --> 02:27:49.799 a Christian image Christmas christ Mass is considered a Christian 2689 02:27:49.840 --> 02:27:52.120 holiday by most Right now, you could say the winter 2690 02:27:52.200 --> 02:27:55.680 holidays or whatever, but Christmas itself is a Christian holiday. 2691 02:27:55.879 --> 02:27:58.120 But in America, we put up a tree, we have 2692 02:27:58.159 --> 02:28:00.639 Santa Claus. It comes down the chimney guy with a 2693 02:28:00.680 --> 02:28:03.840 red suit and he's got eight reindeer. These are cultural 2694 02:28:04.000 --> 02:28:08.600 things that America just kind of has, right. Germany had 2695 02:28:08.680 --> 02:28:12.040 their basis of whatever Germany had, but now they had 2696 02:28:12.040 --> 02:28:16.840 this vibe of culturalism, this thing they had that was Nazism, 2697 02:28:17.559 --> 02:28:23.000 that swayed the country into what it became. It's wild 2698 02:28:23.079 --> 02:28:27.680 to look at how the sigil magic and the real 2699 02:28:27.760 --> 02:28:31.399 occultism bled through into pretty much every home. 2700 02:28:31.440 --> 02:28:31.600 Bro. 2701 02:28:32.479 --> 02:28:36.000 I gotta say, I imagine whenever the United States is 2702 02:28:36.159 --> 02:28:38.840 long gone and people are talking about it, like it's 2703 02:28:39.000 --> 02:28:41.440 so far in the past that you don't know what's 2704 02:28:41.520 --> 02:28:43.799 true and what's not, Like how we do with a 2705 02:28:43.840 --> 02:28:49.000 lot of Roman shit, you know, well not necessarily Roman shit. 2706 02:28:49.079 --> 02:28:51.959 But oh yeah, what was I thinking of the Well, yeah, 2707 02:28:52.000 --> 02:28:54.319 I guess I was like Trojan kind of stuff. 2708 02:28:54.399 --> 02:28:55.760 Well that's ancient Greece. 2709 02:28:55.840 --> 02:28:58.040 But no, I'm glad you brought the Romans because I 2710 02:28:58.040 --> 02:29:00.719 thought that was also an interesting thing too. Go ahead 2711 02:29:00.719 --> 02:29:03.600 and finish your point. But like, while the while the 2712 02:29:03.719 --> 02:29:07.520 Nazis were trying to exterminate an entire religion. The Romans 2713 02:29:07.600 --> 02:29:09.479 did that to the Druids. 2714 02:29:10.120 --> 02:29:12.920 Right, Well, I mean my point is is that, you know, 2715 02:29:13.120 --> 02:29:17.159 I think that I think that whenever people are looking 2716 02:29:17.200 --> 02:29:19.600 back at the United States, they're gonna think that, you know, 2717 02:29:19.639 --> 02:29:23.520 we copied a lot off of you know, ancient rights 2718 02:29:23.559 --> 02:29:25.879 and ancient traditions and stuff and try to make it 2719 02:29:25.920 --> 02:29:27.799 ours and look at them. They thought they were so 2720 02:29:28.159 --> 02:29:30.479 they thought that they thought that they were so you know, 2721 02:29:30.840 --> 02:29:33.559 smart about you know, what they did. And I can't 2722 02:29:33.559 --> 02:29:36.079 believe the majority of their people actually believe that kind 2723 02:29:36.079 --> 02:29:38.879 of stuff. How crazy, you know. So it's easy to 2724 02:29:38.879 --> 02:29:41.840 sit there, you know, Monday morning quarterback and look back 2725 02:29:41.879 --> 02:29:44.360 and say how stupid it was. But I mean, if 2726 02:29:44.399 --> 02:29:46.840 the Nazis were never defeated, which some people say that 2727 02:29:46.920 --> 02:29:49.319 maybe they weren't, but that's why NASA was started and 2728 02:29:49.360 --> 02:29:51.479 all that fun jazz. But like, let's just say that 2729 02:29:51.600 --> 02:29:55.360 Germany never really went down. I mean, we would be 2730 02:29:55.440 --> 02:29:58.159 looking at that as if it was like some great 2731 02:29:58.440 --> 02:30:04.639 crazy tradition. And imagine if Germany, you know, became that, 2732 02:30:04.719 --> 02:30:07.760 what if Germany wasn't defeated. You know, it's like, tradition 2733 02:30:08.040 --> 02:30:10.559 is what your people believe for you know, more than 2734 02:30:10.600 --> 02:30:12.239 two generations, I think. 2735 02:30:13.120 --> 02:30:16.600 I mean, that's fair two generations. By the third one, 2736 02:30:16.639 --> 02:30:20.280 that's pretty much an entirely new world, especially in the 2737 02:30:20.319 --> 02:30:23.239 last two hundred years. Like we're not talking the Middle Ages, 2738 02:30:23.280 --> 02:30:25.719 where like it was pretty much the same type of 2739 02:30:25.799 --> 02:30:28.680 technology and innovation that was rolling for about you know, 2740 02:30:28.799 --> 02:30:32.879 eight hundred years give or take. But like, okay, to 2741 02:30:33.000 --> 02:30:37.000 your point, also, man, it's interesting the Nazis used a 2742 02:30:37.040 --> 02:30:40.639 lot of Roman imagery, or a lot of a lot 2743 02:30:40.639 --> 02:30:44.799 of the principles of the Roman legionaires and the conquering 2744 02:30:44.840 --> 02:30:48.479 the empire, all of these things, right, and they were 2745 02:30:48.559 --> 02:30:53.079 doing this in a conquest way while exterminating an entire 2746 02:30:53.319 --> 02:30:57.079 religious group. And I find that to be interesting because 2747 02:30:57.760 --> 02:31:00.920 as we look towards as we brought the Catholic Church earlier, 2748 02:31:00.959 --> 02:31:03.079 and how there was more connections than just one bro. 2749 02:31:03.959 --> 02:31:08.879 The Romans did this to the Gauls, to the Druids. Okay, Now, 2750 02:31:09.520 --> 02:31:12.319 Druidism that we think of is in Scotland and in 2751 02:31:12.360 --> 02:31:14.719 Ireland and in these areas. But if you look at 2752 02:31:14.879 --> 02:31:18.319 what areas were practicing this religion and had druids within 2753 02:31:18.360 --> 02:31:19.639 their ethos. 2754 02:31:19.600 --> 02:31:21.120 The Romans were fighting them. 2755 02:31:21.520 --> 02:31:25.319 The Gauls in what we now call Germany or Germania 2756 02:31:25.600 --> 02:31:26.479 at the time. 2757 02:31:26.479 --> 02:31:29.680 Right, they were being led by their druid leaders. 2758 02:31:30.200 --> 02:31:34.040 They're quote unquote snake worshipers, if you will, all these 2759 02:31:34.120 --> 02:31:37.440 these sorcerers and all these things. And we know this 2760 02:31:37.479 --> 02:31:40.719 because the Romans wrote about the Druid practices. That's where 2761 02:31:40.760 --> 02:31:43.520 the whole thing about. And again there's nothing written about 2762 02:31:43.520 --> 02:31:48.200 their practices from them. They tried, they carried it down orally, 2763 02:31:48.760 --> 02:31:50.879 but the Romans were able to watch a few of 2764 02:31:50.879 --> 02:31:52.959 their ceremonies. That's where we know where like the Golden 2765 02:31:53.000 --> 02:31:55.280 Sye through they would go up with the scaffolding and 2766 02:31:55.319 --> 02:31:57.879 like harvest and mistletoe for a certain festival and a 2767 02:31:57.920 --> 02:32:02.360 certain thing. That's a Roman writing what he saw. Now, 2768 02:32:02.399 --> 02:32:04.959 of course that's always through the Roman lens. But my 2769 02:32:05.079 --> 02:32:08.239 point is we know nothing about the Druids because the 2770 02:32:08.360 --> 02:32:12.639 Romans were successful, and then once the Roman Empire fell, 2771 02:32:13.079 --> 02:32:18.040 the Roman Catholic Church picked up that charge, if you will, 2772 02:32:18.520 --> 02:32:21.639 and then passed that on through to the last bastion 2773 02:32:21.799 --> 02:32:25.520 of Druidism, which would be Ireland, right an island off 2774 02:32:25.559 --> 02:32:28.399 of an island off of the mainland of Europe. So 2775 02:32:28.520 --> 02:32:32.040 the last little remnants of true Druidism would be there. 2776 02:32:32.360 --> 02:32:36.159 Oh but I forgot Saint Patrick came to Ireland and 2777 02:32:36.280 --> 02:32:39.440 cast out all of the snakes into the sea. But 2778 02:32:39.479 --> 02:32:43.520 those there's no snakes that have ever lived in Ireland. Naturally, 2779 02:32:44.200 --> 02:32:48.280 that would be the Roman call to rid the world 2780 02:32:48.360 --> 02:32:52.680 of the Druids. And it worked because we have no 2781 02:32:52.879 --> 02:32:55.079 record of anything that they believed, or any of their 2782 02:32:55.120 --> 02:32:58.239 practice or anything other than the Roman writings. 2783 02:32:58.360 --> 02:32:58.920 It worked. 2784 02:32:59.079 --> 02:33:02.680 Well, Yeah, the good guys always win, So there you go. 2785 02:33:03.079 --> 02:33:07.959 So with that same type of mindset, he got the 2786 02:33:08.120 --> 02:33:11.959 entire German people in a in a cult like following 2787 02:33:12.840 --> 02:33:15.840 to drive behind his force to try to conquer the 2788 02:33:15.840 --> 02:33:19.040 world real, doing it with sigil magic the entire way through. 2789 02:33:19.719 --> 02:33:23.360 Yeah, I mean it sounds about right. And so whenever 2790 02:33:23.440 --> 02:33:28.000 people say that, uh, certain political figures are literally hitler. 2791 02:33:28.559 --> 02:33:30.440 Okay, okay, you know what, you know what, not even 2792 02:33:30.479 --> 02:33:33.920 a figure, not even a figure, an entire fucking party, 2793 02:33:34.399 --> 02:33:37.120 all right, there is this whole rhetoric and I'm not 2794 02:33:37.159 --> 02:33:40.879 gonna throw names or sides. People listeners to the cult 2795 02:33:40.879 --> 02:33:42.360 of conspiracy know what's up. 2796 02:33:42.399 --> 02:33:45.239 Okay, y'all know us. The fact that. 2797 02:33:45.319 --> 02:33:51.120 Any party in America could be compared to Nazism at 2798 02:33:51.120 --> 02:33:56.879 all is the laughable any even including doesn't matter name 2799 02:33:56.920 --> 02:33:59.920 your side. The only one that could claim such a 2800 02:34:00.079 --> 02:34:03.360 title would be like the American Nationalist Party, which is 2801 02:34:03.399 --> 02:34:09.799 a all white party. They are racial supremacists, uh, not extremists, 2802 02:34:09.840 --> 02:34:12.559 quote unquote, but it's white hate with a suit rather 2803 02:34:12.600 --> 02:34:14.680 than a white hood, that's all it is. 2804 02:34:16.200 --> 02:34:18.840 Yeah, yeah, I mean I would probably call them the 2805 02:34:18.879 --> 02:34:20.879 closest thing to a Nazi for sure. 2806 02:34:21.399 --> 02:34:24.200 And that's they use Nazi rhetoric a lot. 2807 02:34:24.239 --> 02:34:26.879 They americanize it and try to make it sound like 2808 02:34:26.959 --> 02:34:29.120 something that you could kind of believe until you look 2809 02:34:29.159 --> 02:34:30.680 at what book they're reading it from. 2810 02:34:30.760 --> 02:34:31.799 It's a lot of minkoff. 2811 02:34:32.159 --> 02:34:35.000 But beside the point that group, fine, you want to 2812 02:34:35.040 --> 02:34:37.559 compare them to the Nazis, we could have that conversation. 2813 02:34:38.639 --> 02:34:43.200 No candidate on the ballot this election cycle can possibly 2814 02:34:43.280 --> 02:34:47.399 be compared to Hitler, I'm sorry, by no stretch of 2815 02:34:47.399 --> 02:34:48.040 the imagination. 2816 02:34:49.200 --> 02:34:52.639 Yeah, I think Hitler was the only one to literally 2817 02:34:53.000 --> 02:34:54.079 be Hitler. 2818 02:34:54.440 --> 02:34:58.200 Right right, or to even say some sort of a 2819 02:34:58.239 --> 02:35:02.840 fascist dictator type and iron fisted type, and okay, look y'all, 2820 02:35:02.879 --> 02:35:08.280 look y'all. That's like saying that the next great general. 2821 02:35:08.399 --> 02:35:12.680 That's like saying Maddess is the new Napoleon. That's like 2822 02:35:12.760 --> 02:35:17.239 saying that, you know was Rommel was the new. 2823 02:35:18.680 --> 02:35:19.600 Hannibal Barka. 2824 02:35:20.040 --> 02:35:23.120 Like, no, dude, that's not that's These are not fair 2825 02:35:23.159 --> 02:35:28.079 comparisons by any fucking metrics. So I'm just saying, it's 2826 02:35:28.239 --> 02:35:31.319 it's wild when people will do this. But if we do, 2827 02:35:31.840 --> 02:35:35.760 if we do truly look at the parties, the two 2828 02:35:35.799 --> 02:35:39.000 main ones in America right now, and we look at 2829 02:35:39.040 --> 02:35:43.040 which side is silencing opposition, and we look at which 2830 02:35:43.079 --> 02:35:46.799 side is only spewing one side of a rhetoric in 2831 02:35:46.840 --> 02:35:50.799 an echo chamber style fashion and has their side their 2832 02:35:50.840 --> 02:35:53.879 constituents in a very cult like hive mind. 2833 02:35:54.440 --> 02:35:57.000 Right. Don't get me. 2834 02:35:57.040 --> 02:35:59.760 Wrong, both sides have that when you look far enough 2835 02:35:59.840 --> 02:36:02.319 on the spectrum. But when you look at the vast 2836 02:36:02.360 --> 02:36:04.639 majority of the people that are flying a certain flag 2837 02:36:04.760 --> 02:36:08.639 right now, it's interesting which side kind of lines up 2838 02:36:08.680 --> 02:36:11.840 with more uh Nazi principles. 2839 02:36:12.120 --> 02:36:13.959 To be honest with you, well. 2840 02:36:13.879 --> 02:36:18.920 Yeah, it's all about silencing and blame shifting and gas 2841 02:36:19.079 --> 02:36:23.000 lighting and all that fun jazz. And you know, whenever 2842 02:36:23.040 --> 02:36:26.120 you're claiming that the other party is exactly you know 2843 02:36:26.319 --> 02:36:29.360 what you are doing and have done and probably plan 2844 02:36:29.520 --> 02:36:33.879 to do. I don't know. It kind of seems like, 2845 02:36:34.959 --> 02:36:38.200 you know, an unfair kind of game and very hypnotic. 2846 02:36:38.479 --> 02:36:41.520 Dare I say, for those who don't necessarily have eyes 2847 02:36:41.559 --> 02:36:44.639 to see, ears to hear, or a brain to fucking think. 2848 02:36:45.280 --> 02:36:46.559 No doubt, no doubt. 2849 02:36:46.559 --> 02:36:49.079 But all of that to say, dude, Hitler absolutely believed 2850 02:36:49.079 --> 02:36:53.040 in the occult. He absolutely was a true through and 2851 02:36:53.079 --> 02:36:54.639 through believer at one point in time. 2852 02:36:55.159 --> 02:36:58.040 Yeah, I mean that was I kind of just figured 2853 02:36:58.079 --> 02:36:59.680 that was understood by most people. 2854 02:36:59.760 --> 02:37:00.440 Yeah. 2855 02:37:00.520 --> 02:37:03.600 Yeah, But I did actually enjoy doing this deep dive 2856 02:37:03.639 --> 02:37:05.600 and seeing like all of the connections, because I mean, 2857 02:37:05.639 --> 02:37:07.280 we've talked about it, we've touched on it. 2858 02:37:07.719 --> 02:37:08.360 This was good. 2859 02:37:08.719 --> 02:37:11.479 I enjoyed this, and you know, especially as we're looking 2860 02:37:11.520 --> 02:37:13.440 at the world for what it is right now, let's 2861 02:37:13.520 --> 02:37:15.959 keep our eyes out and our third eyes open, if 2862 02:37:16.000 --> 02:37:19.799 you will, for the sigil magic that may be just 2863 02:37:19.959 --> 02:37:23.399 intrusively being shown to us every single day without our knowledge. 2864 02:37:24.079 --> 02:37:26.600 Yeah, you got to keep an eye open for that, 2865 02:37:26.959 --> 02:37:30.360 because you're a fool if you think that that stuff 2866 02:37:30.440 --> 02:37:34.399 is not still going on. Because most people don't, they 2867 02:37:34.399 --> 02:37:36.959 don't look into the occult, you know, they just assume 2868 02:37:37.040 --> 02:37:40.079 that that you know, that's old school and nobody's really 2869 02:37:40.120 --> 02:37:43.280 practicing that anymore in practical magic, that's not really even 2870 02:37:43.319 --> 02:37:46.239 a real thing. And the people that do believe in it, well, 2871 02:37:46.280 --> 02:37:48.639 it's obviously of Satan, and you know, so I'm not 2872 02:37:48.639 --> 02:37:50.920 going to look into Satan's work, and so it's like, 2873 02:37:51.000 --> 02:37:53.000 now you're just taking everybody's word at it and you're 2874 02:37:53.000 --> 02:37:55.120 not really doing any kind of deep research on it. 2875 02:37:55.520 --> 02:37:57.840 But I mean, the best way to know the enemy 2876 02:37:57.920 --> 02:38:00.680 is to study him, and that's what we do over here. 2877 02:38:00.719 --> 02:38:01.040 Baby. 2878 02:38:01.719 --> 02:38:03.840 That being said, what did you think about the book 2879 02:38:04.200 --> 02:38:06.440 the magic book that he's reading? And I didn't know 2880 02:38:06.479 --> 02:38:08.040 that that was literally within that book. 2881 02:38:08.040 --> 02:38:09.600 I'm not gonna lie. I've never read the book cover 2882 02:38:09.639 --> 02:38:09.920 to cover. 2883 02:38:10.559 --> 02:38:13.639 But and that wasn't the Magician or it was it was, 2884 02:38:13.680 --> 02:38:16.920 And I don't know which magic book it was, but 2885 02:38:16.959 --> 02:38:18.959 I do know the title of his magic and it 2886 02:38:19.040 --> 02:38:21.799 did have a K and it straight up was talking 2887 02:38:21.840 --> 02:38:26.040 about Satan being this force of good and evil, talking 2888 02:38:26.040 --> 02:38:27.959 about if you don't have that within you, you can't 2889 02:38:27.959 --> 02:38:32.799 create like and I understand that people can take spirituality 2890 02:38:33.000 --> 02:38:35.559 in different regards, right, It's about perspective, it's about how 2891 02:38:35.600 --> 02:38:37.280 you interpret it, all these things. 2892 02:38:37.840 --> 02:38:41.079 But for Hitler to have those underlined inspecific and keep 2893 02:38:41.079 --> 02:38:43.680 in mind, he was a confirmed Catholic and baptized and 2894 02:38:43.760 --> 02:38:45.879 all of these things, so like he grew up at 2895 02:38:45.959 --> 02:38:48.879 least knowing who Jesus was, you know. I mean maybe 2896 02:38:48.920 --> 02:38:51.040 he prayed to Mary, but like he knew the Bible. 2897 02:38:51.719 --> 02:38:54.440 So for him to go about it that way, what 2898 02:38:54.559 --> 02:38:55.799 are your thoughts? 2899 02:38:56.319 --> 02:38:59.399 I'm not surprised by it. And naturally, Alistair Crowley, if 2900 02:38:59.440 --> 02:39:02.559 I'm not missaken, is the one who originally put the 2901 02:39:02.639 --> 02:39:05.600 K put the K in magic to be able to 2902 02:39:06.159 --> 02:39:11.079 signify which, uh whether it was you know, show magic 2903 02:39:11.319 --> 02:39:14.239 or real quote unquote magic. 2904 02:39:15.600 --> 02:39:17.959 And that was Crowley's book he's reading. Then that makes 2905 02:39:18.000 --> 02:39:21.399 perfect problem. It was all about some Satan man, right. 2906 02:39:21.360 --> 02:39:23.559 Right, That's what it's. You know, whenever you start getting 2907 02:39:23.559 --> 02:39:27.719 into that Satanic kind of magic, it's like, I, I 2908 02:39:27.840 --> 02:39:30.879 don't align with that kind of stuff. Obviously, I don't 2909 02:39:30.879 --> 02:39:35.079 personally believe in Satan, and so, uh yeah, I think 2910 02:39:35.079 --> 02:39:36.920 that it's really just all a call. It it's all 2911 02:39:36.959 --> 02:39:40.959 it's all belief. It's all like you know, it's shock factor. 2912 02:39:41.399 --> 02:39:43.520 But it's also trying to spit in the face of 2913 02:39:43.520 --> 02:39:47.479 the people who who are Christians, and you know, it's 2914 02:39:47.559 --> 02:39:49.920 kind of just playing upon their fears. So, you know, 2915 02:39:49.959 --> 02:39:52.680 if you're really trying to be the Boogeyman to take 2916 02:39:52.719 --> 02:39:56.440 over the world, what better face, especially to a Christian 2917 02:39:56.520 --> 02:40:00.360 nation or a Jewish nation even then, to wear the 2918 02:40:00.399 --> 02:40:05.040 mask of you know, the fucking original fallen Angel himself. 2919 02:40:05.840 --> 02:40:06.559 Yeah, I dude. 2920 02:40:06.760 --> 02:40:09.920 And like I said, the Nazi ideology was this weird 2921 02:40:09.959 --> 02:40:14.959 blend of neopaganism and Nordic traditions with Christianity, and they 2922 02:40:15.040 --> 02:40:17.760 drew on Christian sources from the Old Testament to claim 2923 02:40:17.799 --> 02:40:20.200 where the Arians came from from the Old Testament, and 2924 02:40:20.719 --> 02:40:22.920 that dude who was a monk was leading the charge 2925 02:40:22.959 --> 02:40:24.319 on all of this. So people were kind of like 2926 02:40:24.399 --> 02:40:26.920 jiving with it because yeah, yeah, sure, why not that 2927 02:40:26.920 --> 02:40:27.360 makes sense? 2928 02:40:27.440 --> 02:40:28.600 Yeah, for sure, for sure. 2929 02:40:28.879 --> 02:40:30.799 Then the kids started learning it in school and they 2930 02:40:30.840 --> 02:40:32.600 were coming home talking to their parents about it, and 2931 02:40:32.600 --> 02:40:34.520 it just kind of like instilled. 2932 02:40:34.559 --> 02:40:35.319 It was wild. 2933 02:40:35.520 --> 02:40:39.319 It was fucking insane how strategic and meticulous it done. 2934 02:40:39.479 --> 02:40:43.079 It was done, and I for one believed that it 2935 02:40:43.120 --> 02:40:46.360 was done from the evil source. 2936 02:40:46.840 --> 02:40:47.159 I do. 2937 02:40:47.360 --> 02:40:49.879 I do, in fact, believe in Satan and I believe 2938 02:40:49.920 --> 02:40:53.120 that he was absolutely at work in Nazi Germany, like 2939 02:40:53.719 --> 02:40:54.760 for sure. 2940 02:40:54.600 --> 02:40:59.399 Personally knowing that the Pope was having, you know, some 2941 02:40:59.440 --> 02:41:03.120 sort of chimmunication with Hitler, it does not surprise me 2942 02:41:03.280 --> 02:41:06.600 one bit because it is of my belief. I'm not 2943 02:41:06.639 --> 02:41:09.159 saying that it's absolutely right or wrong. I'm not saying 2944 02:41:09.200 --> 02:41:11.959 that it's even documented. It's more of kind of a 2945 02:41:12.440 --> 02:41:17.559 guess and maybe my intuitive feeling towards it. I believe 2946 02:41:17.600 --> 02:41:19.920 that Satanism was created out of the Catholic Church and 2947 02:41:19.959 --> 02:41:22.239 in order to scare people into the religion. That's my 2948 02:41:22.360 --> 02:41:26.600 personal belief. And so the Pope aligning himself with Hitler 2949 02:41:26.639 --> 02:41:29.879 at least to have some kind of conversation like that, 2950 02:41:29.879 --> 02:41:32.479 that that kind of checks that block. 2951 02:41:33.200 --> 02:41:35.760 Do you mean Anton Levey's Satanism or do you mean 2952 02:41:35.879 --> 02:41:38.840 like the real Black Masses and all that type of Satanism? 2953 02:41:38.959 --> 02:41:39.079 No? 2954 02:41:39.079 --> 02:41:41.200 No, I mean yeah, I'm not talking about Anton LaVey. 2955 02:41:41.239 --> 02:41:41.680 Fuck him. 2956 02:41:41.719 --> 02:41:44.360 Oh yeah, I mean he's he's a way dude. You're 2957 02:41:44.360 --> 02:41:46.280 telling me that that was created by the Catholics. 2958 02:41:46.319 --> 02:41:48.920 There there was people who like, we're going against the 2959 02:41:48.959 --> 02:41:51.159 grain for the sake of going against the grain, and 2960 02:41:51.159 --> 02:41:54.280 we're just inverting everything the church did for that purpose. 2961 02:41:54.399 --> 02:41:57.360 I mean, sure you're gonna have those people. Yeah, you're 2962 02:41:57.360 --> 02:42:00.760 gonna have those people. But I feel like, you know 2963 02:42:01.360 --> 02:42:05.399 what better way, dude, to get more people on your 2964 02:42:05.600 --> 02:42:09.399 side than to create the fucking boogeyman yourself. It's the 2965 02:42:09.520 --> 02:42:12.159 ultimate fucking scheme if you really think about it, I mean, 2966 02:42:12.200 --> 02:42:14.959 think about the market, think about the Hegelian dialect. We 2967 02:42:15.040 --> 02:42:17.200 talk about these things all the time. How do you 2968 02:42:17.239 --> 02:42:20.360 get people to fucking believe and buy your bullshit? The 2969 02:42:20.399 --> 02:42:22.440 best way to do it is to is to make 2970 02:42:22.520 --> 02:42:26.440 them believe that they don't have, like that there is 2971 02:42:26.520 --> 02:42:29.239 like a boogeyman chasing after you, that you know that 2972 02:42:29.399 --> 02:42:32.200 this is the way to get to heaven and and 2973 02:42:32.639 --> 02:42:34.440 not that you know what I mean. Like, I mean, 2974 02:42:34.479 --> 02:42:37.079 I know that you don't necessarily agree, but my opinion 2975 02:42:37.079 --> 02:42:39.479 on it is is like the best way to win 2976 02:42:39.520 --> 02:42:41.200 the game is to control both sides of it. 2977 02:42:42.040 --> 02:42:44.040 No, I get that, but like, if that was the case, 2978 02:42:44.079 --> 02:42:47.600 they had their boogeyman, they had Darwinism breathing down their necks, 2979 02:42:47.600 --> 02:42:51.440 and people were talking about like all these extra thought processes, 2980 02:42:51.479 --> 02:42:53.360 Like the church was on the decline, they were like 2981 02:42:53.440 --> 02:42:56.239 losing their grip because not just a small group of 2982 02:42:56.280 --> 02:43:00.479 people in like hushed corners, most of Germany was already 2983 02:43:00.520 --> 02:43:01.360 on this vibe. 2984 02:43:01.799 --> 02:43:04.120 You know, a lot of Europe was on this kick 2985 02:43:04.159 --> 02:43:04.680 at this time. 2986 02:43:04.760 --> 02:43:08.120 Like having a seance at your party was like a 2987 02:43:08.200 --> 02:43:11.639 hip thing to do, so like this wasn't just like 2988 02:43:11.680 --> 02:43:14.840 a there's a whole thing. So if that was the case, 2989 02:43:15.520 --> 02:43:19.159 you're saying that the Catholic Church did that as well. 2990 02:43:20.360 --> 02:43:22.879 I think that, And I think that if you can 2991 02:43:22.959 --> 02:43:28.799 convince enough people who are quote unquote sinners, call them alcoholics, 2992 02:43:28.840 --> 02:43:32.200 call them racists, call them drug addicts, call them wife beaters, 2993 02:43:32.239 --> 02:43:35.239 call them whatever you want, and you can and you 2994 02:43:35.319 --> 02:43:40.239 can convince the masses that those people are being inhabited 2995 02:43:40.280 --> 02:43:43.200 by demons and we need to expel those demons out 2996 02:43:43.239 --> 02:43:47.639 from you. I mean, you're literally you're playing both sides 2997 02:43:47.639 --> 02:43:51.399 of the fence at that point, I think personally, because dude, 2998 02:43:51.680 --> 02:43:54.559 now you're you're saying, well, there is only one game. 2999 02:43:54.600 --> 02:43:59.040 There's only one board here, and no other pieces can 3000 02:43:59.239 --> 02:44:03.280 can apply, Like you're not going to you know, like 3001 02:44:04.000 --> 02:44:06.600 there are certain pieces to certain games that don't apply 3002 02:44:06.719 --> 02:44:09.399 to other games. But if you control the entire board. 3003 02:44:10.840 --> 02:44:13.959 It makes it fucking It's honestly a smart business move, 3004 02:44:13.959 --> 02:44:16.079 and especially whenever you start looking into the tithe and 3005 02:44:16.200 --> 02:44:18.959 all the money that the church is bringing in ten percent. 3006 02:44:19.040 --> 02:44:21.959 If you start to lose ten percent, imagine you lost 3007 02:44:22.159 --> 02:44:25.760 half of your customer base. Well, that means that the 3008 02:44:25.920 --> 02:44:28.440 half of those people that were donating the ten percent 3009 02:44:28.479 --> 02:44:30.520 to be able to fund your fucking church and all 3010 02:44:30.559 --> 02:44:33.000 of your you know, all of your things and stuff 3011 02:44:33.040 --> 02:44:35.840 like that. Well, I mean, look, you've already been trying 3012 02:44:35.840 --> 02:44:38.000 to preach the good word. Their good word didn't fucking 3013 02:44:38.040 --> 02:44:40.600 save people. Whenever people tune into the news, do they 3014 02:44:40.600 --> 02:44:42.680 tune in for the good stuff or for the bad stuff. 3015 02:44:43.479 --> 02:44:46.600 So you're saying that your boy ate off Lands, who 3016 02:44:46.799 --> 02:44:50.159 was a Catholic monk and then started this entire thing, 3017 02:44:50.200 --> 02:44:52.799 the Oh Star magazine, which is what led Hitler down 3018 02:44:52.840 --> 02:44:55.680 this path originally, if we're gonna believe that story, you're 3019 02:44:55.680 --> 02:44:58.879 saying that that was a Catholic plant to instill all 3020 02:44:58.920 --> 02:45:01.399 of this to bring people very long con of them. 3021 02:45:01.440 --> 02:45:04.040 But it's not the first time that they were trying 3022 02:45:04.079 --> 02:45:06.600 to do this to scare people back into their faith. 3023 02:45:07.040 --> 02:45:09.680 Because look at what happens when the world goes to 3024 02:45:09.719 --> 02:45:10.959 the extreme other direction. 3025 02:45:11.280 --> 02:45:11.760 Y'all beg I. 3026 02:45:11.719 --> 02:45:14.040 Get your asses back to mass better get to that 3027 02:45:14.079 --> 02:45:16.879 pew is that And I'm not saying that's crazy. 3028 02:45:16.920 --> 02:45:19.079 I'm making sure I'm putting the piece together out loud. 3029 02:45:19.159 --> 02:45:21.799 I think that that would be the ultimate conspiracy, and 3030 02:45:21.879 --> 02:45:26.239 I can see that not being extremely far fetched. I mean, dude, 3031 02:45:26.319 --> 02:45:28.159 I love Zachary King. I think is a great guy, 3032 02:45:28.200 --> 02:45:31.360 but I personally think that he's a Catholic plan oh man. 3033 02:45:31.680 --> 02:45:34.840 And I've said that before. Yeah, I think that, of course, 3034 02:45:35.200 --> 02:45:37.479 especially whenever you look on sixty Minutes back in the 3035 02:45:37.479 --> 02:45:40.719 fucking nineties, they're performing exorcisms and then you find out 3036 02:45:40.719 --> 02:45:43.319 that it was all staged, Like why are you performing 3037 02:45:43.319 --> 02:45:44.399 fake exorcisms? 3038 02:45:44.959 --> 02:45:47.600 The same reason why in the nineties we watched Jerry 3039 02:45:47.639 --> 02:45:51.600 Springer and WWE and it didn't like get talked about 3040 02:45:51.600 --> 02:45:52.959 that it was fake until much later. 3041 02:45:53.040 --> 02:45:54.799 It was daytime television man. 3042 02:45:55.440 --> 02:45:58.520 Put on by the Catholic Church. I mean, I mean, 3043 02:45:58.760 --> 02:46:01.280 what you got a fake? It's a funk to sell 3044 02:46:01.319 --> 02:46:02.639 your to sell your bullshit. 3045 02:46:03.200 --> 02:46:05.559 No, no, I agree that was a bad move for sure, 3046 02:46:05.760 --> 02:46:07.959 But I'm just saying, like TV, Yeah, the nineties were 3047 02:46:08.000 --> 02:46:11.879 a weird time, let's be honest. But neither here nor there, right, 3048 02:46:11.920 --> 02:46:15.159 But I disagree for the reason that Catholic priests were 3049 02:46:15.159 --> 02:46:17.319 being killed and they were being rounded up and brought 3050 02:46:17.319 --> 02:46:20.440 to concentration camps if it was some sort of a 3051 02:46:20.440 --> 02:46:23.040 long con. It's the same thing with saying like the 3052 02:46:23.159 --> 02:46:26.360 Jews were actually behind the Holocaust, and it's like, so 3053 02:46:26.440 --> 02:46:30.200 they just like were cool with oh, maybe what sixty 3054 02:46:30.479 --> 02:46:32.719 six million, maybe it was six thousand, Like hold on, 3055 02:46:32.840 --> 02:46:35.440 on pause. You're saying that they were cool with letting 3056 02:46:35.479 --> 02:46:38.120 their own people die to serve the greater good, and 3057 02:46:38.159 --> 02:46:40.440 that's I personally just can't see that. 3058 02:46:40.479 --> 02:46:43.120 I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm with the Catholic Church. 3059 02:46:43.280 --> 02:46:45.600 If this was a long con, did they lose a 3060 02:46:45.680 --> 02:46:50.959 couple thousand, maybe a couple thousand priests to the cause, 3061 02:46:51.040 --> 02:46:54.639 but like they solidified their claim of like where they're at. 3062 02:46:54.680 --> 02:46:57.120 But then again you find out the pope had back channels, 3063 02:46:57.559 --> 02:47:00.959 and then we find out later on there was financial 3064 02:47:02.000 --> 02:47:05.000 lines for these rat lines to help the Nazis escape 3065 02:47:05.000 --> 02:47:08.280 persecution for war crimes after the war ended. That's what 3066 02:47:08.319 --> 02:47:10.479 happened with Project paper Clip, and we know that to 3067 02:47:10.520 --> 02:47:11.079 be a fact. 3068 02:47:11.079 --> 02:47:13.600 Now, so it's like, fuck. 3069 02:47:14.120 --> 02:47:17.440 I mean, Jacob, if you had an organization, let's say 3070 02:47:17.559 --> 02:47:23.040 you started a fucking burger business, okay, and and your 3071 02:47:23.040 --> 02:47:26.479 burger business turned into a fucking empire. And that empire, 3072 02:47:26.639 --> 02:47:30.280 I mean, it's like basically like your second to none. 3073 02:47:30.319 --> 02:47:33.440 You're you're on top of even McDonald's. Let's just call 3074 02:47:33.520 --> 02:47:37.000 it Jacob's burgers, okay. And these are the best well 3075 02:47:37.040 --> 02:47:39.760 known burgers. Everybody loves them. They love how juicy and 3076 02:47:39.799 --> 02:47:43.200 delicious and very pure. And there's no additives, there's none 3077 02:47:43.200 --> 02:47:44.959 of that shit. It's just the best burger you can 3078 02:47:45.000 --> 02:47:47.799 possibly sink your teeth into. And you build this empire, 3079 02:47:47.840 --> 02:47:50.520 and it's not only known across the United States, it's 3080 02:47:50.559 --> 02:47:53.559 known across the world. But then after a little while, 3081 02:47:53.600 --> 02:47:56.559 people started look into your organization and they're like, well, 3082 02:47:56.639 --> 02:47:59.399 what happened to one of these burger flippers? Turns out 3083 02:47:59.440 --> 02:48:02.799 that they were like did he ever end up firing them? Well, 3084 02:48:02.840 --> 02:48:06.760 no he didn't. He didn't end up Did I say racist, 3085 02:48:07.000 --> 02:48:10.440 I meant to say rapist? Well, the burger flipper happened 3086 02:48:10.479 --> 02:48:12.559 to be a rapist. Did Jacob end up end up 3087 02:48:12.600 --> 02:48:15.520 firing the rapist? Well no, he just moved them to 3088 02:48:15.559 --> 02:48:21.079 another work, another location, and and you know, and that's 3089 02:48:21.120 --> 02:48:22.760 all we're gonna do with them. We're just gonna try 3090 02:48:22.799 --> 02:48:25.799 and cover it up, you know, and hopefully know everybody 3091 02:48:25.799 --> 02:48:27.680 forgets about it because we're moving it to a whole 3092 02:48:27.719 --> 02:48:30.719 new place. Nobody knows this guy's name. The kind of thing. 3093 02:48:30.760 --> 02:48:34.000 It's like, I'm sorry, I wouldn't eat it, Nazi, but 3094 02:48:34.040 --> 02:48:36.639 I wouldn't eat at your fucking burger restaurant anymore if 3095 02:48:36.680 --> 02:48:38.520 I knew you were doing that is my point. As 3096 02:48:38.520 --> 02:48:41.319 far as the Catholics connection to the fucking to the 3097 02:48:41.440 --> 02:48:43.120 to the Nazis, that's all I was trying to say. 3098 02:48:43.959 --> 02:48:47.399 I mean, there is absolutely connections with the Catholics Church, 3099 02:48:47.600 --> 02:48:51.440 with the Vatican to the Nazis. But that's the other 3100 02:48:51.479 --> 02:48:54.120 thing too. There was priests that were slaughtered. So it's like, 3101 02:48:54.719 --> 02:48:56.639 was he in on that? Was he complicit on that? 3102 02:48:56.680 --> 02:48:59.719 The pope I'm talking about was he didn't find that 3103 02:48:59.760 --> 02:49:00.520 out until later? 3104 02:49:00.600 --> 02:49:00.840 Did he? 3105 02:49:00.959 --> 02:49:03.319 Like was just trying to let bygones be bygones because 3106 02:49:03.319 --> 02:49:05.280 he honestly thought Hitler was going to win this thing, 3107 02:49:05.360 --> 02:49:07.000 So like, whatever I got to do to keep this 3108 02:49:07.079 --> 02:49:10.479 dude happy. Who knows who actually weren't. 3109 02:49:10.680 --> 02:49:14.159 Correct me if I'm wrong, But weren't the the Catholics 3110 02:49:14.559 --> 02:49:21.799 were the original people who were opposing the Jews, right, Like, 3111 02:49:22.360 --> 02:49:26.280 wasn't it the Roman Catholics that that ended up killing Jesus? 3112 02:49:26.360 --> 02:49:26.520 Right? 3113 02:49:27.120 --> 02:49:28.559 Or no? It was that? Wait? 3114 02:49:28.639 --> 02:49:29.159 Who was it? 3115 02:49:29.200 --> 02:49:29.879 I think that it was the. 3116 02:49:31.799 --> 02:49:34.760 Roman soldiers are the ones that actually committed the act, 3117 02:49:34.879 --> 02:49:38.040 but it was begged for by the Jewish people who 3118 02:49:38.040 --> 02:49:41.079 were under Roman rule at the time. Speaking of which, 3119 02:49:41.120 --> 02:49:44.040 the nails that pierced Jesus was also a relic that 3120 02:49:44.239 --> 02:49:47.280 Hitler was sent to find. That's another thing. Also, the 3121 02:49:47.280 --> 02:49:50.200 crown of Thorns, the whole nine everything. 3122 02:49:51.040 --> 02:49:54.239 Right, So, I mean, this might be a crazy theory, 3123 02:49:54.280 --> 02:49:56.479 and hopefully it doesn't get me canceled. I'm just a 3124 02:49:56.520 --> 02:50:01.159 conspiracy theorist. But what if the Catholic were working with 3125 02:50:01.399 --> 02:50:04.120 the fucking Nazis to try and expel the Jews as 3126 02:50:04.159 --> 02:50:06.760 the top religion of the world. 3127 02:50:07.000 --> 02:50:09.399 But the Jews weren't the top religion at that time? 3128 02:50:10.000 --> 02:50:12.120 If I mean, Okay, as far as the banks go 3129 02:50:12.239 --> 02:50:14.360 or stuff like that, and the conspiracy theories behind this 3130 02:50:14.520 --> 02:50:16.680 with you one hundred percent all day, we could talk 3131 02:50:16.680 --> 02:50:18.959 about it. But as far as like their numbers go. 3132 02:50:19.079 --> 02:50:22.000 It's not like they were taking over by any means. 3133 02:50:22.479 --> 02:50:24.399 They were already being shit on in most of the 3134 02:50:24.440 --> 02:50:27.120 countries where they were at the reason why the German 3135 02:50:27.200 --> 02:50:32.040 banking system was like taken over by the UH by 3136 02:50:32.120 --> 02:50:35.840 the Rothschild was because in Frankfurt, where they were started from, 3137 02:50:36.200 --> 02:50:39.079 the Jews weren't allowed to sell or do anything with 3138 02:50:39.120 --> 02:50:42.600 produce or with meat or with industry, so they were 3139 02:50:42.639 --> 02:50:44.680 only allowed to do certain jobs. One of them was 3140 02:50:44.680 --> 02:50:48.040 clerical work and money work, banking and things like that. 3141 02:50:48.399 --> 02:50:50.719 They excel at the practice, and that's just kind of 3142 02:50:50.760 --> 02:50:54.680 how that spawned. So it's not like they were welcomed 3143 02:50:54.760 --> 02:50:56.879 or just like, oh yeah, it's just your neighbor down 3144 02:50:56.879 --> 02:50:58.280 the street, he's Jewish but whatever. 3145 02:50:58.399 --> 02:50:59.559 No, they were seen as. 3146 02:50:59.479 --> 02:51:04.719 Like the the underlings for sure, long before Hitler came 3147 02:51:04.760 --> 02:51:07.479 into fruition. But that's my point. They already had their 3148 02:51:07.479 --> 02:51:10.159 boogeyman kind of built in. All he did was just 3149 02:51:10.280 --> 02:51:11.120 radicalize it. 3150 02:51:12.879 --> 02:51:13.079 Eh. 3151 02:51:13.200 --> 02:51:15.440 I don't know. I mean, I'm just kind of trying 3152 02:51:15.440 --> 02:51:18.840 to think outside the box and you know, just get weird. 3153 02:51:18.879 --> 02:51:21.200 Whereas there's no logic to this. 3154 02:51:21.760 --> 02:51:26.840 The Nazi ideologies and their specific brand of occultism, right, 3155 02:51:27.559 --> 02:51:30.239 there was no real logic put into it. There was 3156 02:51:30.280 --> 02:51:32.079 a little bit from here, a little bit from there, 3157 02:51:32.120 --> 02:51:33.559 a little bit of a blend from here. 3158 02:51:33.440 --> 02:51:36.440 But make sure it's Aran and like just send it. 3159 02:51:36.520 --> 02:51:40.600 And the people of Germany were so starved for something 3160 02:51:40.600 --> 02:51:42.680 to cling on to that they all kind of just 3161 02:51:43.200 --> 02:51:45.559 went along with it. That's why all these people at 3162 02:51:45.559 --> 02:51:47.440 the end of the war, they couldn't even believe like 3163 02:51:48.280 --> 02:51:50.680 they were cool with this, And you had so many 3164 02:51:50.719 --> 02:51:52.719 people that were like waking up to it later on 3165 02:51:52.840 --> 02:51:56.639 that like, wow, we were seriously like cheering this guy 3166 02:51:56.680 --> 02:51:58.719 on when he was saying this type of wild shit, 3167 02:51:58.840 --> 02:52:01.159 like they we had a lot of issues with that, 3168 02:52:01.159 --> 02:52:03.040 which is why Germany still to this day has a 3169 02:52:03.079 --> 02:52:06.079 weird time talking about what was going down in their 3170 02:52:06.079 --> 02:52:07.079 country at this time. 3171 02:52:07.399 --> 02:52:11.040 I guess I'm just going for the useful idiot kind 3172 02:52:11.040 --> 02:52:14.079 of side story here as far as like, I mean, look, 3173 02:52:14.120 --> 02:52:18.360 we all know that Israel, like the fucking Israel created Hamas, right, 3174 02:52:18.840 --> 02:52:24.760 and you know, essentially America helped create isis right, Like 3175 02:52:25.120 --> 02:52:28.360 we don't align with beliefs, but like the enemy of 3176 02:52:28.360 --> 02:52:31.399 my enemy is my friend. And if we can use 3177 02:52:31.479 --> 02:52:34.879 these useful idiots to try and push forward maybe whatever 3178 02:52:34.959 --> 02:52:35.799 our plans are. 3179 02:52:37.639 --> 02:52:40.680 Well, let's be honest here, it's not like the Nazis 3180 02:52:40.680 --> 02:52:41.719 were against doing that. 3181 02:52:42.079 --> 02:52:43.760 You could look at the agreement that. 3182 02:52:43.760 --> 02:52:47.079 Was made between the Nazis and the Soviet Union before 3183 02:52:47.239 --> 02:52:50.319 Russia went back and like you know, went to the 3184 02:52:50.360 --> 02:52:54.280 Allied side. They first were on Hitler side. Stalin and 3185 02:52:54.360 --> 02:52:56.920 Hitler knew each other, they were cool. And when they 3186 02:52:56.959 --> 02:53:01.040 decided to sign up with the Axis powers, they led 3187 02:53:01.079 --> 02:53:05.360 a pogrom in Russia and slaughtered their Jewish population. That 3188 02:53:05.520 --> 02:53:07.639 was a whole thing that took place. They hunted them 3189 02:53:07.639 --> 02:53:10.120 through the snow with dogs and shit. Right, and this 3190 02:53:10.200 --> 02:53:12.840 is allegedly over o. You have to where did that 3191 02:53:12.920 --> 02:53:15.719 story come from? Look, you could look up the statistics 3192 02:53:15.719 --> 02:53:17.719 on how many Jews were and were not in Russia 3193 02:53:17.959 --> 02:53:19.280 before and after World War Two. 3194 02:53:19.319 --> 02:53:20.440 It's not that hard to find. 3195 02:53:20.440 --> 02:53:25.040 But that being said, they only went on the Allied 3196 02:53:25.079 --> 02:53:27.280 side when the Nazis went back on their promise. 3197 02:53:28.000 --> 02:53:29.360 That was pretty much it. 3198 02:53:29.799 --> 02:53:33.520 So it's not like Hitler was against going with somebody 3199 02:53:33.520 --> 02:53:35.639 who was like enemy of my enemy is my friend 3200 02:53:35.680 --> 02:53:38.440 type of thing to accomplish the goal. Could it be 3201 02:53:38.959 --> 02:53:42.079 that there was also an enemy of my enemy in Italy, 3202 02:53:42.120 --> 02:53:46.559 because keep in mind Mussolini Italy, he was where fascism started. 3203 02:53:46.559 --> 02:53:49.520 As a matter of fact, the word fascist comes from. 3204 02:53:49.639 --> 02:53:51.680 Uh you ever see the depiction of an axe or 3205 02:53:51.680 --> 02:53:53.360 like a whole bundle of sticks with the axe blade 3206 02:53:53.360 --> 02:53:56.959 sticking out the Romans would carry. That's called a fascisto okay, 3207 02:53:57.000 --> 02:53:59.360 And that's where the term fascism comes from. That was 3208 02:53:59.399 --> 02:54:03.319 a symbol of, like I reign supreme fucking authority. This 3209 02:54:03.399 --> 02:54:05.399 is the symbol of that that I carry with me 3210 02:54:05.440 --> 02:54:09.959 and my entourage for that purpose. So Mussolini is really 3211 02:54:10.040 --> 02:54:13.920 where the term fascism came from. Rome being in Italy, 3212 02:54:14.079 --> 02:54:16.680 the Vatican and the Roman and the It excuse me, 3213 02:54:16.680 --> 02:54:19.559 the Vatican and the Italian powers that be always have 3214 02:54:19.559 --> 02:54:22.479 a really tight connection, seeing as how the Italian powers 3215 02:54:22.520 --> 02:54:25.239 that be and Hitler had a tight connection. Is it 3216 02:54:25.360 --> 02:54:28.280 crazy to postulate that that kind of secondhand went through 3217 02:54:28.280 --> 02:54:28.879 there as well? 3218 02:54:28.920 --> 02:54:31.639 Look who knows? Who even knows? 3219 02:54:32.000 --> 02:54:36.000 Hey, Look, we're just conspiracy theorists. Where we're here theorizing 3220 02:54:36.479 --> 02:54:41.760 conspiracies as conspiracy theorists do. And I mean, look, I 3221 02:54:42.120 --> 02:54:44.959 think that it's definitely worth looking into. It's fun to 3222 02:54:45.719 --> 02:54:48.520 think about all the what ifs and and all that 3223 02:54:48.559 --> 02:54:51.840 fun stuff. And I honestly, I believe that it's necessary 3224 02:54:51.879 --> 02:54:55.840 that we that we question all of the quote unquote 3225 02:54:55.959 --> 02:54:59.680 understood narratives of the past, because I don't think we're 3226 02:54:59.719 --> 02:55:02.639 ever gonna get the full story. I think that there's 3227 02:55:02.639 --> 02:55:06.399 always probably kernels of truth in every little bit of history, 3228 02:55:06.479 --> 02:55:08.399 not man, not one hundred percent of the time, but 3229 02:55:08.399 --> 02:55:11.239 probably most of the time. And I think that if 3230 02:55:11.280 --> 02:55:14.079 you're trying to make yourself look like the good guy, 3231 02:55:14.399 --> 02:55:16.639 you're gonna make yourself look like the good guy by 3232 02:55:16.680 --> 02:55:20.959 any means, and you're also, by doing so, you're gonna 3233 02:55:21.000 --> 02:55:24.639 make the bad guy look very bad by any means. 3234 02:55:25.920 --> 02:55:28.559 I'm just saying that's some third eye logic. 3235 02:55:28.639 --> 02:55:30.840 I think I agree. 3236 02:55:31.719 --> 02:55:34.600 Good call members. If you enjoyed this episode, found it 3237 02:55:34.639 --> 02:55:37.000 informant over thought, you know what, Wow, this was just 3238 02:55:37.079 --> 02:55:37.639 kind of wild. 3239 02:55:37.639 --> 02:55:40.120 I learned something new here. I don't even know, but whatever. 3240 02:55:40.200 --> 02:55:43.239 If you would like to show some love, show some support, 3241 02:55:43.280 --> 02:55:45.879 and let us know, help us boost these algorithms across 3242 02:55:45.879 --> 02:55:49.680 the board, please at this time, hit the five stars, 3243 02:55:49.719 --> 02:55:51.680 hit the shared the like, subscribe the comment, leave a post, 3244 02:55:51.719 --> 02:55:53.879 leave review, shares with their friends and family shaffs every work. 3245 02:55:53.879 --> 02:55:54.319 Here's a deal. 3246 02:55:54.600 --> 02:55:56.959 The more activity or algorithm sees across all of our 3247 02:55:57.000 --> 02:55:59.959 listening platforms, the more we get promoted to more potential listeners. 3248 02:56:00.040 --> 02:56:01.840 You could then become potential cult members like the rest 3249 02:56:01.840 --> 02:56:03.760 of you. Finalies and gentlemen, why are you ready to go? 3250 02:56:03.879 --> 02:56:06.120 Check out Menta Mysteries, Jonathan's other show and give him 3251 02:56:06.159 --> 02:56:08.280 all the love, the five star wars and good reviews 3252 02:56:08.319 --> 02:56:10.600 to all the things and stuff. Go check out my 3253 02:56:10.680 --> 02:56:13.079 YouTube channel ca tonight and giving the subscribes and follows 3254 02:56:13.079 --> 02:56:13.600 there as well. 3255 02:56:13.840 --> 02:56:15.680 We thank you for everybody's already gone and done so. 3256 02:56:16.559 --> 02:56:20.000 And before we wrap this up, if you are listening 3257 02:56:20.040 --> 02:56:23.360 to this on day of release, which is Tuesday, please 3258 02:56:23.479 --> 02:56:26.479 join us tonight if you want kind of like an 3259 02:56:26.559 --> 02:56:29.799 election watch party, We're gonna be doing it over at 3260 02:56:29.840 --> 02:56:32.840 patreon dot com slash Cultive Conspiracy Podcast. 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So we love all the 3272 02:57:01.399 --> 02:57:04.040 good Cult members out there, whether you're listening or watching, 3273 02:57:04.239 --> 02:57:07.280 and uh yeah, get ready baby, because it's about to 3274 02:57:07.319 --> 02:57:12.239 go down. 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