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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to everything out there with your host Steve Stockton.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell Long Friends Now. The Tartarian Empire is a conspiracy

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<v Speaker 2>theory that proposes a vast advanced civilization existed in the

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<v Speaker 2>past that was responsible for constructing many of the world's

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<v Speaker 2>most impressive buildings. Adherents of this theory often claimed that

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<v Speaker 2>these structures were later inherited, repurposed, or even destroyed by

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<v Speaker 2>modern society. In the context of America, several architectural styles

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<v Speaker 2>and specific buildings are often cited as evidence for this

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<v Speaker 2>hidden theory. One of the key characteristics of Tartarian architecture

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<v Speaker 2>is its grandeur and ornateness. Buildings from the Gilded Age,

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<v Speaker 2>with their elaborate facades, towering spires, and opulent interiors, are

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<v Speaker 2>often held up as examples. Structures like the Singer Building,

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<v Speaker 2>which was demolished in nineteen sixty eight, and the original

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<v Speaker 2>Pennsylvania Station in New York City are cited as prime

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<v Speaker 2>examples of Tartarian influence. Even the temporary buildings of the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifteen World's Fair, with their impressive scale and intricate details,

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<v Speaker 2>are sometimes attributed to this lost civilization. Another common theme

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<v Speaker 2>is the use of advanced technology. Tartarian buildings are often

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<v Speaker 2>said to incorporate features that were beyond the capabilities of

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<v Speaker 2>the time, such as intricate ventilation systems, radiant heating, and

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<v Speaker 2>even free energy devices shades of nikolay Tesla. Some proponents

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<v Speaker 2>point to the existence of underground tunnels and chambers beneath

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<v Speaker 2>many old buildings as further evidence of this advanced technology. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>it's important to note that there is really no credible

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<v Speaker 2>historical evidence to support the existence of a Tartarian empire,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's what they would want you to believe. The

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<v Speaker 2>architectural styles attribute to Tartaria can be readily explained by

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<v Speaker 2>known historical and artistic movements such as Beaux Arts and

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<v Speaker 2>Art Deco. The advanced technology claims are often based on

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<v Speaker 2>speculation and possible misunderstanding of historical construction methods. The Tartarian

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<v Speaker 2>empire theory, while intriguing to some, is ultimately at this

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<v Speaker 2>point still a fringe belief with no provable basis in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's crucial to approach such claims with a healthy

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<v Speaker 2>dose of skepticism and rely on variable historical and scientific evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though some claim this has all been scrubbed. While

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<v Speaker 2>it's certainly fascinating to imagine a lost civilization with advanced knowledge.

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<v Speaker 2>It's important to remember that our world's history is rich

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<v Speaker 2>and complex enough without inventing what some believe are fictional empires.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll let you decide for yourself now. Some examples include

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<v Speaker 2>the Salt Lake City Temple in Utah. This grand building,

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<v Speaker 2>construco by the Mormon Church in the late nineteenth century, is

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<v Speaker 2>often cited for its intricate stonework in imposing presents. The

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<v Speaker 2>US Capitol Building in Washington, d C. With its neo

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<v Speaker 2>classical design and prominent dome, the Capital is a landmark.

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<v Speaker 2>Tartarian theorists often point to supposed inconsistencies in its construction

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<v Speaker 2>timeline and the existence of underground tunnels. And then there's

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<v Speaker 2>the Old City Hall in San Francisco. Before it was

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<v Speaker 2>damaged in the nineteen oh six earthquake, this building was

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<v Speaker 2>known for its tornate Victorian architecture. Tartarian proponents claim it

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<v Speaker 2>was far too advanced for its time. And then there's

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<v Speaker 2>Union Station in Washington, d C. This Beaux Arts masterpiece,

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<v Speaker 2>with its grand halls and classical statues, is another tartarian

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<v Speaker 2>theory favorite. And there's the Chicago Cultural Center. Originally the

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<v Speaker 2>Chicago Public Library, This building boasts stunning interiors with mosaics,

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<v Speaker 2>stained glass, and marble. Tartarian theory often claim such opulence

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<v Speaker 2>was beyond the capabilities of nineteenth century builders. And then

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<v Speaker 2>there's the New York State Capitol in Albany. This massive building,

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<v Speaker 2>with its elaborate stone carvings and grand staircase, is also

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<v Speaker 2>often held up as a tartarian masterpiece. And again another

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<v Speaker 2>city hall, this time in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Once the tallest

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<v Speaker 2>habitable building in the world, this structure is known for

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<v Speaker 2>its ornate towering clock. Tartarian theorists often point to its

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<v Speaker 2>size and complexity as evidence through a lost civilization. Then

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<v Speaker 2>let's go to Ohio for the Cincinnati Music Hall. This

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<v Speaker 2>Victorian air building, with its grand concert hall and intricate details,

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<v Speaker 2>is another tartarian favorite. And back to New York City

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<v Speaker 2>the Grand Central Terminal. This iconic transportation hub, with its

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<v Speaker 2>celestial ceiling and Beaux Arts architecture, is often cited as

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<v Speaker 2>a tartarian creation. Now let's hop down to Ashville, North

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina the famous Biltmore. This sprawling mansion built for George

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<v Speaker 2>Vanderbilt in the late nineteenth century is often cited for

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<v Speaker 2>its size and opulence, Tartarian theorists claiming was far too

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<v Speaker 2>advance for its time. However, the Biltmore state was a

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<v Speaker 2>product of the Gilded Age, when wealthy industrialists built lavis

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<v Speaker 2>holmes to showcase their wealth and taste. Now, the Tartarian

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<v Speaker 2>theory often relies on selective presentation of facts, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>there's not a lot of historical context. But again, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>leave it up to you to decide. So welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>this show. We're going to delve into the captivating world

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<v Speaker 2>of the Tartarian Empire theory. This interian concept proposes a

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<v Speaker 2>lost civilization responsible for many of the world's most awe

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<v Speaker 2>inspiring buildings, including many right here in America. Well journey

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<v Speaker 2>across the United States exploring grand structures and architectural marvels

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<v Speaker 2>often cited as evidence for this hidden history, or at

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<v Speaker 2>least scrubbed history. But we won't just stop at admiration.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll try and peel back the layers of speculation and

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<v Speaker 2>examine the historical contexts. So join us tonight, So we

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<v Speaker 2>try to separate facts from fiction, appreciate the ingenuity of

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<v Speaker 2>our ancestors, and celebrate the rich tapestry of the architectural

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<v Speaker 2>heritage that surrounds us, regardless of how it came to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Hello once again, everybody, Welcome back Steve Stockton, everything

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<v Speaker 2>out there on the Clyde Lewis Crown zero Radio Network.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for joining us tonight. Got a real special

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<v Speaker 2>guest with us this evening, all the way from Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 2>Good friend of mine, Brown Dwarf. He's got a YouTube channel,

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<v Speaker 2>a Brown Underscore Dwarf. I'll link it in the show notes.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk about some old world architecture here

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<v Speaker 2>in the United States and as well as some aerial

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<v Speaker 2>phenomena that he covers very well, and whatever else we

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<v Speaker 2>get into. Brown Dwarf. How you doing, brother?

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<v Speaker 1>Greeting Steve, Excited to be on here, honored and blessed.

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<v Speaker 1>This is super exciting man.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Always a pleasure to have you as a guest.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you've been on here before. I think you've

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<v Speaker 2>been on here and I know you've been on from

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<v Speaker 2>beyond that we do on Wednesday nights. I get confused

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes I got so much stuff going on in so

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<v Speaker 2>many different places. But either way, it's good to have

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<v Speaker 2>you here tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Brother, Thank you, thank you. And as you can hear

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<v Speaker 1>in the background, we're just talking about city sounds. There's

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<v Speaker 1>some sirens going by there, and you might hear some

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<v Speaker 1>other unexpected, unexpected sounds throughout the conversation. Here getting a

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<v Speaker 1>little tongue tied. Yeah, No, the architecture, Yeah, we can

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<v Speaker 1>dive right into that stuff. It's a it's a recent

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<v Speaker 1>topic that I see a lot of people have been

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<v Speaker 1>getting into, and I see some of the informations come

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<v Speaker 1>across your way. And some people call the topic old

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<v Speaker 1>world or or they'll call it tartaria. Yeah, and and

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of is uh, I would say, in closing

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<v Speaker 1>a large subject, you know, they just for short, we

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<v Speaker 1>just call it. I'd like to call it old world.

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<v Speaker 1>But the word and the name Terria comes up a

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<v Speaker 1>lot in this subject. So one of the first things

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<v Speaker 1>that was brought to my attention was it was through

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<v Speaker 1>my brother, who who actually brings up a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>things to me. And it's a younger brother of mine.

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<v Speaker 1>He started showing me some information about some of the

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<v Speaker 1>old buildings in Los Angeles here, and some of the

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<v Speaker 1>information that he was relating to me wasn't fitting with

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<v Speaker 1>the mainstream narrative. And I found that really interesting off

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<v Speaker 1>the bat. And one of the first things was some

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<v Speaker 1>of the dates of these buildings and stuff, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>some of those dates just really didn't make sense. There

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<v Speaker 1>was also the amount of time it took to build

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<v Speaker 1>some of these buildings also is very fishy. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>some of these buildings, Uh, surprisingly it'd be a they

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<v Speaker 1>say it's a year or two that they build them.

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<v Speaker 1>I found some that were even six months that they

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<v Speaker 1>were building these buildings, And it just doesn't seem to

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<v Speaker 1>match with the timeline and the knowledge and and the

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<v Speaker 1>tools that we had at the time. I feel I

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<v Speaker 1>know that there is a lot of old architecture from

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<v Speaker 1>way back that that uh that people are you know know,

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<v Speaker 1>famous stuff, and I just feel like some of those

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<v Speaker 1>those types of buildings we really got to question, uh

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<v Speaker 1>these days, because like I'm saying, this, uh information that's

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<v Speaker 1>coming about now is really challenging the information we're given now.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I don't know how you said that you

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<v Speaker 1>possibly found out of this subject through me. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure how you found out about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm trying to to remember it was. I think

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<v Speaker 2>when you're with us on one of my YouTube channels

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<v Speaker 2>from Beyond with Lee g Versus for Audio, you mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>it and how there and when you're where you're at

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<v Speaker 2>in downtown LA there were buildings and things that they

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<v Speaker 2>kind of fit within that. And then once you start

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<v Speaker 2>looking into it, there's a lot of buildings. Like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>they were putting them up in record time back in

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<v Speaker 2>the eighteen hundreds, and it just it doesn't make any

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<v Speaker 2>sense to me. I look at like some of the

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<v Speaker 2>skyscrapers in New York and things. I thought that with

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<v Speaker 2>the tools and the I guess the esthetic or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>they had at the time, I don't think they could

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<v Speaker 2>build buildings like that today. And I know when I

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<v Speaker 2>lived in Las Vegas, they were talking about one of

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<v Speaker 2>the big casinos out there that they expected it to

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<v Speaker 2>exists for about fifty years and then they knock it down.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't think of the name of the one with

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<v Speaker 2>the dancing waters out front. I lived out there for

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<v Speaker 2>ten years, but I thought, you know, fifty years for

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<v Speaker 2>those these giant resort casinos that they build out there,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not a very long time. And here they were,

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<v Speaker 2>they're building these buildings in the eighteen hundreds without the

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<v Speaker 2>advent of modern tools, especially electric tools and things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It just said bottles the mind when you sit and

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<v Speaker 2>think about it. I mean, that's one of those things

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<v Speaker 2>always just so good. For granted, yeah, there's this beautiful architecture,

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<v Speaker 2>these cathedrals, these skyscrapers, and you think, how did they

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<v Speaker 2>build that with the technology and the tools available to

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<v Speaker 2>them at the time. It doesn't make sense. There's something

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<v Speaker 2>not giving here. We're not being told right things.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, Yeah, yeah, you know a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>the joke comes up of some buggy because that's what

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<v Speaker 1>they tell us is what we had at the time, right,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much we were in horse and buggy and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that and no electrical tools, and and I forget,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm pretty bad on the date of when

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<v Speaker 1>like the tool certain tools came out and and but

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, it's just once again it doesn't seem to match.

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<v Speaker 1>And also another thing that comes up with these buildings

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<v Speaker 1>is also the that there's technology in these buildings, and

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<v Speaker 1>so this this architecture is obviously it's it's high grade masonry,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it's someone with a lot of knowledge and

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, you mentioned that those Las Vegas resorts only

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<v Speaker 1>lasting about fifty years, where these buildings have lasted possibly

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds and maybe even thousands of years. Another thing is, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>these buildings also tend to go a lot lower than

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<v Speaker 1>what they seem at the face level. So a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these buildings go underground. And there's our theory of

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<v Speaker 1>the mud flood comes up because there's buildings that look

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<v Speaker 1>like they've been almost dug out. It seems like like

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<v Speaker 1>the floor that the buildings at the first floor, it'll

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<v Speaker 1>when you look more, some of these buildings even connect

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<v Speaker 1>they have used certain metals I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>I said, valuable metals and maybe art and stuff like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it seems a lot of the time you'll get

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<v Speaker 1>that they're deconstructing these buildings. So when you'll see old

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one would think, oh, yeah, and they tell

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<v Speaker 1>you the story, Okay, it's being built, but we never

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of us never stopped to think that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's being deconstructed, you know, And so yeah, that comes up,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, it's just so many more things. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these buildings also are just massive in size. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of them tend to have these giant doors as well. Sometimes, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>some of these doors are just massive, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so one thinks and uh, questions why these doors so huge?

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<v Speaker 1>questioning that you get into the rabbit hole and and

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<v Speaker 1>the topic of giants come up. So that's another thing

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<v Speaker 1>with this whole topic giants. Going back to the tech. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's also talks of airships. You know, Uh, people call

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<v Speaker 1>You know, theys to call them zeppelins as well. I think, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>huh and uh, and so there's possible evidence of them

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<v Speaker 1>having airships even before I guess we whatever date we

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<v Speaker 1>have put on our first blip being out. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fascinating to think that, you know, there was already

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<v Speaker 1>h aerial technology way before they tell us. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's very odd and just a lot of questions,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like there's you know, uh, some answers

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<v Speaker 1>come in our way. There's a lot of interesting people

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<v Speaker 1>doing research on this, and I tend to follow them

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<v Speaker 1>for the latest uh stuff. And I've also been doing

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<v Speaker 1>my own boots on the ground stuff, you know, being

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<v Speaker 1>here in Los Angeles. Uh, there's quite a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>this old world stuff around here, and it's it's fascinating

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<v Speaker 1>because it's beautiful, but also fascinating because a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people don't realize what we could be really looking at.

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<v Speaker 1>And and when I say that, it could be that

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<v Speaker 1>it's a remnants of an older civilization, a civilization we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't learned about, we haven't been told about. And so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been on this trail here trying to figure this out,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just, yeah, it's it's an exciting thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's it makes you look at life differently. I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely have a different perspective when I go to different

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<v Speaker 1>places and cities and stuff like that, because this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is worldwide. It's all over the place. And one theory

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<v Speaker 1>is that whoever was building this stuff, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>worldwide thing because a lot of similar architecture could be

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<v Speaker 1>found throughout the world. And it's uh so it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it makes a question, what's this connection or the style

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<v Speaker 1>of building. And there's different styles of stuff too. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been learning the different types of architecture. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>have your like a Gothic style, there's even a Gothic Revival.

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<v Speaker 1>There's I think people are kind of making stuff up

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<v Speaker 1>to mixing different styles and making up their own. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they have your Art Deco and and your Greek, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Roman Greek style, Romanesque. There's all these different types of styles,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of them also tempt to mix. So you'll

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<v Speaker 1>have a building that will look like it has different

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<v Speaker 1>types of styles of architecture as well, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people question that. Yeah, it could be that when different

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<v Speaker 1>types of people were occupying those lands, then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they added on to those buildings and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, fascinating stuff and then once again, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the giant thing. People might be thrown off like by that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but there is a lot of excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>lot of evidence pointing towards the giants being a real thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so I definitely believe in it. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of different cases throughout the world, and

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<v Speaker 1>here locally we have a Catalina Island, which is also

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<v Speaker 1>you know, known I'm sure you've heard about the giants,

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<v Speaker 1>the skeletons that they found out there, and Catalina also

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<v Speaker 1>being you know, we'll probably get into the the aerial

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<v Speaker 1>stuff later, but also known for UFO activity and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So I got to visit there as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's this structure on Catalina that is known as

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<v Speaker 1>the Casino, and it's funny that's come up as in

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<v Speaker 1>the topic as an old world structure, and I got

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<v Speaker 1>to check that out up close. I should have examined

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<v Speaker 1>it a lot more closer when I had the chance,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was still questioning it at the time. I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't sure, and eventually I heard someone that I followed

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<v Speaker 1>mentioning I was like, darn, I should have dug a

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<v Speaker 1>little deeper in there, but I definitely did an outside

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<v Speaker 1>scan of it, and I think it's very possible. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's interesting to think that you have these giants

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<v Speaker 1>being found on the island and then once again this

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<v Speaker 1>these one of these structures. And so for me, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a little connection there. And yeah, it's just it makes

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<v Speaker 1>you question the history we've been taught in school and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>It just really flips all that upside down. And with that,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's a lot of stuff that you know, may

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<v Speaker 1>bother people, you know, because it just kind of flips

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<v Speaker 1>your world upside down once you uh start getting into

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and and the thing that the surprise me about

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<v Speaker 2>Tartary the Tartarians. There's a map that I found and

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<v Speaker 2>it's from like nineteen hundred, nineteen hundred and six or

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<v Speaker 2>something like that. I've never seen a map in any

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<v Speaker 2>of my schooling that had that on it. Yet there

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<v Speaker 2>it is. And it's not, you know, like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a map from biblical times or a map

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<v Speaker 2>from even a few hundred years ago. This is like

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<v Speaker 2>something from the early nineteen hundreds. There it is, but

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<v Speaker 2>I've never heard it mentioned until lately. And then some

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<v Speaker 2>of the stuff and it just seems like Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 2>is just a treasure trow of the stuff. One of

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<v Speaker 2>the ones that that springs mind. And I've seen this one.

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<v Speaker 2>It's out in Yeah, just right in the edge of

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<v Speaker 2>Burbank there called the Portal of the Folded Wings. Have

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<v Speaker 2>you ever seen that? It's a shrine to aviation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a yes. And you know what, I had looked

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<v Speaker 1>that up and I was wondering. I was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I wonder if that's an old world, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>from the Old World. And but they do have a

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<v Speaker 1>date on it, and they do have the name of

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<v Speaker 1>disposed uh architect that.

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<v Speaker 2>Mountain in twenty something, twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's interesting that you bring that up. That that's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely something I looked into, but I haven't visited that yet. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>super fascinating. And then not far from Burbank is uh Pasadena, California,

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<v Speaker 1>and Pasadena seems to be like just all old world.

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<v Speaker 1>You have old old town Pasadena's funny you got the

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<v Speaker 1>old town Pasadena and Pasadena and an old town of

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<v Speaker 1>course that's where a lot of these these buildings are.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh. One researcher was looking into Pasadena and pointed

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<v Speaker 1>out just a bunch of buildings there, and even the

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<v Speaker 1>city Hall is just amazing. And I've gotten to check

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<v Speaker 1>out a lot of these buildings there and finding more

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<v Speaker 1>in the area. But the Rose Bowl. He believes that

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<v Speaker 1>that area there was probably full of a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>buildings as well, but was maybe somehow either covered up

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<v Speaker 1>because a lot of times, uh, these golf courses and

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<v Speaker 1>and stadiums and stuff like hotels is another thing that

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to cover up a lot of these places where

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<v Speaker 1>these buildings used to be. And and they say, just

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<v Speaker 1>Pasadena seems to have a lot of this stuff there.

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<v Speaker 1>And and there's something about Pasadena too. You can feel it.

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<v Speaker 1>It has a very like to me, like a haunted

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<v Speaker 1>a vibe, a haunted feeling, spooky feeling. And there's been

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<v Speaker 1>a lot that's gone on there. I mean, you got NASA, JPL,

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Parsons and that whole you know, that's that's a

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<v Speaker 1>whole other subject we could get into there. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>all all within that area there where you have all

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<v Speaker 1>these buildings.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd forgotten Jack Parsons was a resident of Pasadena

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<v Speaker 2>and blew himself up while supposedly working on special effects

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<v Speaker 2>for Hollywood, but he was working on it was a

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<v Speaker 2>fulminate of mercury that he was playing around with. But

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<v Speaker 2>he was also a follower of Aleister Crowley and was

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<v Speaker 2>into some dark magic and some things like that. So

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<v Speaker 2>who knows for sure. I mean, this was a guy,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the founder of the JPL and stuff. You

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<v Speaker 2>think he would know what he was doing with something

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<v Speaker 2>relatively simple like a fulminated mercury. But it is very volatile,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand. But yeah, I'm a big fan of Parsons.

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<v Speaker 2>I like reading about him and some of his exports

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff. There's a there's a book of Sex and Rockets,

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<v Speaker 2>and then there's another one about him that's just fascinating,

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<v Speaker 2>fascinating stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and I'm gonna be doing something on it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been kind of procrastinating on it, but I'm waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for the energy to get out there, and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to do it as proper as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of touching on Parsons, there's this area there known

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<v Speaker 1>also Devil's Gate Dam, where I guess they would go

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<v Speaker 1>and blow up a lot of the rockets because it

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<v Speaker 1>was out of high they were still in high school,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe when they were hired by I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was the military or I'm not sure who, but to

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<v Speaker 1>help make explosives and stuff, and so they were out

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<v Speaker 1>there blowing stuff up. But there's a whole yeah, pretty

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<v Speaker 1>dark and ocult stuff. And and yeah, where he lived,

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<v Speaker 1>the parsonage, this mansion that he had where a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of this occult activity, wild parties and yeah, very interesting stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know the mansion is no longer there, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to check out that that particular area. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they got maybe a house, are some apartments there now.

416
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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, all that happening in right here in Pasadena

417
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<v Speaker 1>and also another place. You know, it seems like these

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<v Speaker 1>major cities are are are the hubs of these old

419
00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:19.720
<v Speaker 1>world center points, but at the same time, so are

420
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<v Speaker 1>these small towns. Very small towns you'll find some of

421
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<v Speaker 1>this old architecture as well. But I wanted to point

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<v Speaker 1>out in California that San Francisco, of course, is another

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<v Speaker 1>major one where you'll find a bunch of this stuff.

424
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<v Speaker 1>And San Diego as well is another major one. You

425
00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:40.799
<v Speaker 1>got a Balboa Park there that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a wild looking structure there at Balboa Park.

427
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, definitely I've never been there either, but we

428
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<v Speaker 1>theorize that somehow the zoo San Diego Zoo and what

429
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<v Speaker 1>else is there? I think there's something else there, but

430
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<v Speaker 1>somehow the zoo is covering up like we were mentioning

431
00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:13.160
<v Speaker 1>that the golf courses, hotels and stadiums and stuff like that.

432
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<v Speaker 1>So in this case, it's the zoo that's covering up

433
00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:18.960
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of stuff there. And I hear it drops

434
00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:22.119
<v Speaker 1>down in levels also, so it'd be interesting to poke

435
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<v Speaker 1>around there a little more.

436
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's just so many places, especially in southern California

437
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:33.640
<v Speaker 2>that warn't explorations. Thinking if you can go boots on

438
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:35.839
<v Speaker 2>the ground, that'd be an awesome series. I'd love to

439
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<v Speaker 2>see that.

440
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely, I'm trying to get out there as much

441
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<v Speaker 1>as possible. And yeah, you know, the gas prices has

442
00:29:46.319 --> 00:29:49.279
<v Speaker 1>still been hitting the pocket hard, so it makes it

443
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<v Speaker 1>a little bit difficult. But you know, whenever I get

444
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<v Speaker 1>the chance, I check things out, you know, And I'm

445
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<v Speaker 1>just working on also documenting things and and I've recently

446
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<v Speaker 1>gotten some new gear to help me out with editing

447
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<v Speaker 1>videos and stuff, So just learning how to do all

448
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<v Speaker 1>that to be able to present what I'm expressing better,

449
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<v Speaker 1>you know, and it's coming along, you know, just chipping

450
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<v Speaker 1>away at it, learning new things. And also I've gotten

451
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<v Speaker 1>some recent gear to help me a live stream and

452
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<v Speaker 1>podcasts also because I want to be able to present

453
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<v Speaker 1>some of this stuff and show some of the findings

454
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:35.680
<v Speaker 1>and really a breakdown also some of my videos and yeah,

455
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<v Speaker 1>so we're working on that as well. But yeah, any anytime,

456
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, even when I think back to places I visited,

457
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<v Speaker 1>there's you know, throughout my travels and I know you've

458
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<v Speaker 1>traveled a whole lot. Yeah, I could remember a lot

459
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<v Speaker 1>of places where it's like, oh, yeah, you know, seeing

460
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<v Speaker 1>some of these old buildings or old things that could

461
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<v Speaker 1>pertain to the Old World. And for me, one of

462
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<v Speaker 1>them off the bat being in I remember visiting Brazil

463
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<v Speaker 1>and we were in the state of Salvador. It's northern Brazil,

464
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<v Speaker 1>and there's a small town called Bellarino and there it's

465
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<v Speaker 1>like a cobble street, stones and man, let me tell you,

466
00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:26.200
<v Speaker 1>everything there seemed old world. But at the time I

467
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:28.720
<v Speaker 1>had no idea. I wasn't into the topic. I just

468
00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:34.680
<v Speaker 1>knew that a lot of these sites were tourist destinations

469
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. But now learning some of this stuff.

470
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:40.839
<v Speaker 1>It definitely I would have looked at those places with

471
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:45.240
<v Speaker 1>different eyes and and so yeah, there's just different places.

472
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<v Speaker 1>Even in Mexico, you know, you could find a lot

473
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:54.160
<v Speaker 1>of this stuff there, and even the old megaliths. You know,

474
00:31:54.440 --> 00:31:57.559
<v Speaker 1>this is all this stuff that we're talking about as well.

475
00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:02.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, it makes you, uh wonder about some of

476
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:05.480
<v Speaker 1>the stuff we're top from Egypt and stuff like that

477
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:09.799
<v Speaker 1>and just other cultures that go way back. So it

478
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:12.480
<v Speaker 1>seems like the more you dig, the more this stuff

479
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:19.799
<v Speaker 1>comes up, and and the more that the narrative is

480
00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:23.880
<v Speaker 1>just not making sense. And uh, and there's very very

481
00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:27.279
<v Speaker 1>bizarre things that people are starting to find, uh, like

482
00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:32.920
<v Speaker 1>even in in the narratives. So like, uh for instance,

483
00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:36.039
<v Speaker 1>in like some of the buildings, Uh, you'll find this

484
00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:42.880
<v Speaker 1>fire narrative a lot of times in these old world buildings,

485
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:46.799
<v Speaker 1>they'll have a history of fires and it and a

486
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<v Speaker 1>lot of times it seems like that there couldn't have

487
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:54.000
<v Speaker 1>been I mean, or there wasn't a fire because these

488
00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:58.960
<v Speaker 1>buildings are made of certain materials that can't burn. And uh,

489
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:01.400
<v Speaker 1>but in the narrative they'll say that it got burnt

490
00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:06.200
<v Speaker 1>down and then rebuilt and sometimes it'll that'll happen several

491
00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:10.599
<v Speaker 1>times throughout history, but yet the building is still there

492
00:33:11.160 --> 00:33:16.000
<v Speaker 1>and or a lot of times they'll demolish these buildings

493
00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:19.440
<v Speaker 1>and maybe even throwing the fire narrative, and the fire

494
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:25.759
<v Speaker 1>narrative is possibly a nod to this group that is

495
00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:28.799
<v Speaker 1>holding this information. So we we we believe that there

496
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<v Speaker 1>is you know, certain secret societies, some of them that

497
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<v Speaker 1>are well known, that have to do with maybe even

498
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:49.000
<v Speaker 1>the construction or with having the information of the truth

499
00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:52.599
<v Speaker 1>of these buildings and the real history.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so I just I would say, you don't

501
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:01.880
<v Speaker 2>like the Mason's. I mean, that's what they were all about,

502
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:07.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, And I don't know. It's just like I said,

503
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<v Speaker 2>it boggles the mind looking at some of these places.

504
00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:15.320
<v Speaker 2>The New York Public Library, the main branch. The marble

505
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:18.559
<v Speaker 2>on the library building is about three feet thick and

506
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:21.960
<v Speaker 2>it was built like between the eighteen ninety seven and

507
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:27.199
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eleven. I think is just monstrous. And looking at

508
00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:31.199
<v Speaker 2>some other examples here picture of Spokane, Washington in the

509
00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:36.880
<v Speaker 2>nineteen twenties, all this just incredible architecture. The Panama, California

510
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:42.480
<v Speaker 2>Exposition Center of whatever it's called in San Diego nineteen

511
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:48.280
<v Speaker 2>fifteen there's a shot here Montgomery, Alabama in nineteen o six,

512
00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:51.800
<v Speaker 2>and it just looks totally unlike anything I would have

513
00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:54.960
<v Speaker 2>expected to find in the Deep South at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. And then another thing is the population. The population

515
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:07.559
<v Speaker 1>when you look into certain towns and cities and it

516
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:12.800
<v Speaker 1>doesn't match the infrastructure of the city. So they say, like,

517
00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:15.320
<v Speaker 1>for example, to give you a date, and they'll say,

518
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:19.400
<v Speaker 1>at that time, the population was this, But there's already

519
00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:23.000
<v Speaker 1>this massive there's already a massive city there. So how

520
00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:26.760
<v Speaker 1>is it that this recent population that just got there

521
00:35:27.480 --> 00:35:30.840
<v Speaker 1>built this whole city up? And we're talking these amazing

522
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:34.920
<v Speaker 1>type buildings that I think would take a lot longer

523
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:38.800
<v Speaker 1>than what they're telling us to build. And so it

524
00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:44.079
<v Speaker 1>just once again, it doesn't line up, you know. And yeah,

525
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:47.679
<v Speaker 1>there's for we're talking trying to give examples. Another one

526
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:50.559
<v Speaker 1>that pops into mind is the Empire State Building. If

527
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<v Speaker 1>I'm not mistaken, they say that was built in a

528
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:55.039
<v Speaker 1>I think it was a year or two.

529
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't see that happening. And another one I

530
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<v Speaker 2>wanted to mention, I've seen this one been two or

531
00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:07.679
<v Speaker 2>three years ago. I spoke at the UFO conference in

532
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:11.159
<v Speaker 2>San Francisco and got there a couple of days early,

533
00:36:11.199 --> 00:36:14.199
<v Speaker 2>did some sight saying, went to see the Palace of

534
00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Fine Arts there in San Francisco. In that place is

535
00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:23.119
<v Speaker 2>just is phenomenal. Take a look at that sometime and

536
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:29.199
<v Speaker 2>again that's here that was built here nineteen fifteen, this

537
00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:34.760
<v Speaker 2>is when it opened. And I see a lot of domes,

538
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:38.039
<v Speaker 2>domes where there's domes, a lot of the capital state

539
00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:43.760
<v Speaker 2>capitol buildings, and our national capital things, you'll find domes prevalent.

540
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:47.960
<v Speaker 2>And then there's a lot of Masonic things hidden in

541
00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:52.119
<v Speaker 2>the geography and the way things are laid out in Washington,

542
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:53.119
<v Speaker 2>d C. As well.

543
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, And there's the talks of these structures

544
00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:02.599
<v Speaker 1>also possibly on certain lay lines and stuff like that,

545
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:04.679
<v Speaker 1>energy points and the.

546
00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Domes are there to concentrate the energy. And something I

547
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:09.599
<v Speaker 2>was already I think it was on the Reddit, so

548
00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:12.400
<v Speaker 2>your mileage may vary, but it was talking about how

549
00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:15.119
<v Speaker 2>a lot of these places where there's a dome, then

550
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:19.239
<v Speaker 2>there'll be some sort of tunnel right underneath that to

551
00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:22.360
<v Speaker 2>the dome concentrates and gathers the energy and then puts

552
00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:24.159
<v Speaker 2>it in the tunnel and then shoots it along the

553
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:26.880
<v Speaker 2>lines of the next place or something like that Wow,

554
00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:32.559
<v Speaker 2>sounds very teslas and I'm talking the test inventor, not

555
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:33.360
<v Speaker 2>Elon Musk.

556
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:34.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

557
00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Right. And so the topic of free energy comes up,

558
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:43.079
<v Speaker 1>and that possibly in these times where when things were

559
00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:48.639
<v Speaker 1>up and going in this civilized, possible civilization we're talking

560
00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:51.199
<v Speaker 1>about here, that there was free energy going around and

561
00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:55.119
<v Speaker 1>high tech stuff a lot more TechEd out than we

562
00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:58.000
<v Speaker 1>are here now. I know, we feel pretty TechEd out,

563
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:00.000
<v Speaker 1>and this is pretty cool that we're able to commute

564
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.519
<v Speaker 1>nicate like this right now. I'm using my phone at

565
00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:06.280
<v Speaker 1>the moment, and and and it's it's it blows my mind.

566
00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:10.679
<v Speaker 1>But from what I hear and what we theorize is

567
00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:14.599
<v Speaker 1>that they're slowly releasing some of this technology that was

568
00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:19.480
<v Speaker 1>already around slowly back into the public. And and then

569
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:23.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, we have AI. Now, there was a couple

570
00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:25.800
<v Speaker 1>of things that you mentioned earlier, and hopefully they'll pop

571
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:28.920
<v Speaker 1>back up in my head here now. But speaking of AI,

572
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:34.920
<v Speaker 1>another theory is that these narratives are being pumped out

573
00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:38.840
<v Speaker 1>by AI, because in the narratives you'll find a lot

574
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<v Speaker 1>of times we were talking like the fire theory is

575
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:49.280
<v Speaker 1>one anomaly. Another one is that the repetition of certain

576
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:53.199
<v Speaker 1>names within the narratives. So you'll you'll read about let's

577
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:58.159
<v Speaker 1>say a certain building and for some reason, let's say

578
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<v Speaker 1>a certain last name, Richardson's and sons let's say built

579
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:09.519
<v Speaker 1>the building. Well, then the name Richardson's will come out

580
00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:14.079
<v Speaker 1>several times within the narrative, one or two, three times,

581
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:19.400
<v Speaker 1>and it's like almost like this computer had just generated

582
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:23.599
<v Speaker 1>this narrative, you know, and you're we're finding that in

583
00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:27.039
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the stuff, just like the fire, the

584
00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:32.760
<v Speaker 1>fire anomaly, and it's just really bizarre and really fascinating.

585
00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:36.880
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, you were talking about the tunnels going down

586
00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:40.840
<v Speaker 1>under the domes and stuff. There's another thing where they

587
00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:47.559
<v Speaker 1>believe energy was being somehow produced or recycled somehow with

588
00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:50.639
<v Speaker 1>the water fountains in front of these buildings. So you'll

589
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:53.719
<v Speaker 1>find a lot of these buildings used to have water

590
00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:56.760
<v Speaker 1>fountains or there's some sort of like water source nearby.

591
00:39:57.480 --> 00:40:03.280
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, it's real interesting because there is certain buildings

592
00:40:03.280 --> 00:40:07.559
<v Speaker 1>that I could find now that do have either a

593
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:11.280
<v Speaker 1>lake or a pond, some sort some sort of water

594
00:40:11.320 --> 00:40:14.599
<v Speaker 1>stores or water fountains in front of them. And then

595
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:20.119
<v Speaker 1>also the whole thing with these bells, giant bells and

596
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:25.039
<v Speaker 1>organs come up to just like in a lot of

597
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:29.400
<v Speaker 1>these cathedrals and churches, there's these organs, and supposedly these

598
00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:35.440
<v Speaker 1>bells and organs were also vibrating frequencies and energies that

599
00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:41.920
<v Speaker 1>we're producing certain types of energies or healing properties and

600
00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:45.519
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that I've heard, which is fascinating. And those

601
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:49.280
<v Speaker 1>are some of the things that also are missing from

602
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:54.400
<v Speaker 1>certain buildings as well. That we've noticed is sometimes these

603
00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:57.960
<v Speaker 1>organs will go missing, or these giant bells. These bells

604
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:03.800
<v Speaker 1>is another thing. And then the antenna tops to a

605
00:41:03.800 --> 00:41:07.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of buildings seem like they've been stripped of these things.

606
00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:11.719
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, it's weird. Makes you wonder where that went.

607
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And another thing I find interesting a lot of

608
00:41:18.880 --> 00:41:23.199
<v Speaker 2>this stuff is tied to expositions or world's fairs. I

609
00:41:23.239 --> 00:41:28.079
<v Speaker 2>know in Knoxville, Tennessee, had area there called the Long

610
00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:31.559
<v Speaker 2>Magnolia Avenue called Chilhowie Park. It's where there was an

611
00:41:31.599 --> 00:41:38.079
<v Speaker 2>exposition there and it was nineteen ten Appalachian Exposition there.

612
00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:41.039
<v Speaker 2>There was one in nineteen ten and one in nineteen eleven,

613
00:41:41.719 --> 00:41:45.159
<v Speaker 2>and those were held to demonstrate progress in southern industry.

614
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:50.719
<v Speaker 2>President Theodore Roosevelt smoking nineteen ten and President Taft Smoking

615
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:57.039
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eleven. And again there's that name game. The large

616
00:41:57.039 --> 00:42:00.679
<v Speaker 2>exhibit hall was designed by an architect named Graft and

617
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:04.559
<v Speaker 2>then there was a Tennessee marble bandstand designed by a

618
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:08.199
<v Speaker 2>different architect no relation, named rf Grafh same spelling of

619
00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:13.199
<v Speaker 2>the last name, and also made zeppelins. You know, we

620
00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:17.280
<v Speaker 2>were talking about the blimps earlier. These expositions saw the

621
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:21.159
<v Speaker 2>first airplane and zeppelin lights in East Tennessee. So there's

622
00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:25.440
<v Speaker 2>all this just weird overlapping stuff that you didn't you

623
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:28.639
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't think would have anything to do with one another,

624
00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:32.039
<v Speaker 2>but yet it does. And there was we were talking

625
00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:37.159
<v Speaker 2>about the earlier the zeppelins and stuff. There was between

626
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:40.440
<v Speaker 2>I think it's between I want to say eighteen seventy

627
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:44.960
<v Speaker 2>six to around eighteen ninety seven there was just a

628
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:50.599
<v Speaker 2>whole wave of mysterious airships with electric lights, propellers, the

629
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:55.159
<v Speaker 2>whole deal. They're reported flying in California, Texas and the

630
00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:57.519
<v Speaker 2>Great Lakes area here in the United States and then

631
00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:01.400
<v Speaker 2>some other places in other countries. That's I don't know,

632
00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:05.719
<v Speaker 2>kind of a UFO flat before the modern day UFO

633
00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:09.039
<v Speaker 2>thing even got started. I wonder what all these flying

634
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:12.800
<v Speaker 2>machines was about. That's you know, I've been to the

635
00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:15.119
<v Speaker 2>Outer Banks and Kitty Hawk and been to the Right

636
00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:19.400
<v Speaker 2>Brothers thing where they built their place. And again looking

637
00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:22.320
<v Speaker 2>at the dates, all these things, you know, the telephone,

638
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:27.519
<v Speaker 2>the telegraph, the light bulb flight, all this happened within

639
00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:30.079
<v Speaker 2>just the span of a decade or so, or maybe

640
00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:32.559
<v Speaker 2>longer than that, but all around the same time period.

641
00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:35.840
<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden, there was just this burst of

642
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:41.760
<v Speaker 2>technology that seemed to come out of nowhere. Radio came

643
00:43:41.840 --> 00:43:46.400
<v Speaker 2>to being in that time, and early attempts at television,

644
00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:50.039
<v Speaker 2>and just it just boggles the mind.

645
00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:55.360
<v Speaker 1>Yes, agreed. And you mentioned the World's Fair. That's another. Yeah,

646
00:43:55.599 --> 00:43:59.679
<v Speaker 1>the big thing that comes up in this. And you

647
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:03.119
<v Speaker 1>mentioned in Tesla. If I'm not mistaken, I think I

648
00:44:03.320 --> 00:44:06.679
<v Speaker 1>was hearing something that I think Tesla might have lit

649
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:09.719
<v Speaker 1>one of the World's fares up, I think with his

650
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:12.800
<v Speaker 1>light bulbs or something like that, if I'm not mistake,

651
00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:15.840
<v Speaker 1>or somehow he powered up one of the world's fairs.

652
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:17.239
<v Speaker 1>I heard. I don't know if it was the one

653
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:22.400
<v Speaker 1>in Chicago, but yeah, it's interesting. And I heard recently

654
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:27.639
<v Speaker 1>that our new president was talking of having some sort

655
00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:31.079
<v Speaker 1>of World's Fair type thing happened. I don't know if

656
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:34.679
<v Speaker 1>you heard anything about that, but that was interesting. I

657
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:38.679
<v Speaker 1>had a friend send me something about that. There was

658
00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:41.360
<v Speaker 1>a few other things also. I'm telling you, there's so

659
00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:44.159
<v Speaker 1>much that that just pops into mind when you mentioned

660
00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:46.280
<v Speaker 1>certain things, and I was trying to hold on to

661
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:51.880
<v Speaker 1>some of those things. But man, yeah, you could go

662
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:55.760
<v Speaker 1>many ways with this. So yeah, once again the zeppelins.

663
00:44:57.679 --> 00:45:00.480
<v Speaker 1>What was something else that came to mind?

664
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:01.079
<v Speaker 4>Uh?

665
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Darn anyway, but yeah, anything else that you could help

666
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:11.800
<v Speaker 1>me bounce back here, Steve, What else could we chop

667
00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:12.519
<v Speaker 1>up here on this?

668
00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Well? I heard you mentioned the mud flood a couple

669
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:18.519
<v Speaker 2>of times there. Expound on that a little bit, if

670
00:45:18.559 --> 00:45:22.119
<v Speaker 2>you would. That that's a part of this new wrinkle

671
00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:22.960
<v Speaker 2>on this horn to me.

672
00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's been talks of these cataclysms

673
00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:32.599
<v Speaker 1>throughout our history, and you know that there's like, what

674
00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:37.239
<v Speaker 1>is it the Epic of or the epic of Gilgamesh? Yeah,

675
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:39.239
<v Speaker 1>what'll just called the I believe it, that's what it is.

676
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:41.119
<v Speaker 1>And it's kind of like there's a muffler. And then

677
00:45:41.199 --> 00:45:46.360
<v Speaker 1>even looking into the Bible, you know there's uh talks

678
00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:50.239
<v Speaker 1>of the flood there and and so it's very possible

679
00:45:50.360 --> 00:45:55.639
<v Speaker 1>that that that's what could have happened here. And also

680
00:45:55.719 --> 00:45:58.719
<v Speaker 1>another thing that comes up is possibly because a lot

681
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:02.119
<v Speaker 1>of these buildings have been destroyed. Obviously, we've had a

682
00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:05.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of wars and stuff like that, and and they're

683
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:08.719
<v Speaker 1>continuing to destroy these buildings. I mean, we've recently had

684
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:12.079
<v Speaker 1>what was it, the Notre Dame building went up on fire.

685
00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:15.920
<v Speaker 1>There's been several as of late of Old World buildings

686
00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:20.519
<v Speaker 1>that have caught fire. So I believe it's it's still happening.

687
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:27.480
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's just uh yeah, I don't know. I

688
00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:31.679
<v Speaker 1>think there's definitely something happening here, and we're starting to

689
00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:38.039
<v Speaker 1>see uh, just like a new a new world here.

690
00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:40.119
<v Speaker 1>And it's kind of weird that I'm saying that, because

691
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:42.480
<v Speaker 1>you know that there's talks of the nWo, the New

692
00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:46.199
<v Speaker 1>World Order and all that stuff. But I do feel

693
00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:49.840
<v Speaker 1>that there's some sort of awakening. You know, there's a

694
00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:52.800
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of information moving rapidly now and and

695
00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:59.880
<v Speaker 1>and things are are just uh really starting to I think,

696
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:04.199
<v Speaker 1>uh shine on a lot of darkness that's going on.

697
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:07.519
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, going back to the World's Fair, there's a

698
00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:10.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of dark stuff behind that too, there was a

699
00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:14.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of cool technology and and and and things that

700
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:19.719
<v Speaker 1>were being presented in those world's fairs, but uh, I've

701
00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:23.840
<v Speaker 1>heard some dark stuff as well. You know, there's talks

702
00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:32.159
<v Speaker 1>of the incubator babies. There's talks of uh just certain

703
00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:39.599
<v Speaker 1>races being almost displayed. Uh yeah, just things that that

704
00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:43.920
<v Speaker 1>make you question, uh, certain morals and stuff like that.

705
00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:48.320
<v Speaker 1>But uh yeah, so talking about these incubator babies. Once

706
00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:52.519
<v Speaker 1>you get into this, it throws you down another rabbit hole,

707
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:56.760
<v Speaker 1>and that's the rabbit hole of the the orphan train kids.

708
00:47:56.840 --> 00:47:58.679
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if you're familiar with this or

709
00:47:58.719 --> 00:47:59.800
<v Speaker 1>heard anything about it.

710
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:03.159
<v Speaker 2>I've briefly heard about it, but let the audience know

711
00:48:03.400 --> 00:48:04.320
<v Speaker 2>what you're talking about.

712
00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:07.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So, and like I said, I'm no expert in this.

713
00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:11.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm learning with everyone at the same time. But there's

714
00:48:11.880 --> 00:48:21.079
<v Speaker 1>been talks about that, like repopulation of of the these places.

715
00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:26.280
<v Speaker 1>So once, for instance, here in the US, uh yeah,

716
00:48:26.599 --> 00:48:28.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, we talked in our history, we talk about

717
00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:32.960
<v Speaker 1>our h a lot of ancestors and stuff like that

718
00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:36.400
<v Speaker 1>coming from Europe and in different places, and the natives

719
00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:42.519
<v Speaker 1>were already here and but there's this talk about that

720
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:50.519
<v Speaker 1>some of these repopulation sites. Different major cities were actually

721
00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:55.719
<v Speaker 1>being repopulated by orphans and stuff like that. And uh,

722
00:48:56.400 --> 00:49:00.199
<v Speaker 1>and so people started tracing back their lineage and a

723
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:05.239
<v Speaker 1>lot of people are finding that their ancestral history is

724
00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:08.519
<v Speaker 1>stops at a certain point and they can't really like

725
00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:13.880
<v Speaker 1>remember anything from there or can't find anything else from

726
00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:19.880
<v Speaker 1>that point, and and it's really really odd and and

727
00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:22.639
<v Speaker 1>so it makes a question where these orphans coming from.

728
00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:27.440
<v Speaker 1>And you'll find that a lot of these Old World

729
00:49:27.480 --> 00:49:35.679
<v Speaker 1>buildings were asylums and also orphanages and and so it

730
00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:39.159
<v Speaker 1>makes you wonder why are they using these buildings for that?

731
00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:44.159
<v Speaker 1>You know, It's almost like they use those types of

732
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:48.000
<v Speaker 1>buildings for a reason. And and so yeah, it gets real,

733
00:49:48.199 --> 00:49:52.280
<v Speaker 1>real sketchy and murky, but the information is there once

734
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:54.360
<v Speaker 1>you start getting into this stuff, and like I said,

735
00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:56.760
<v Speaker 1>it gets dark. So I'll just leave it at that

736
00:49:56.880 --> 00:49:59.760
<v Speaker 1>and leave it up to the audience that dig from there.

737
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:03.119
<v Speaker 1>It is definitely an issue that comes up when you

738
00:50:03.159 --> 00:50:04.280
<v Speaker 1>get into this stuff.

739
00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:08.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely something that they want to do their own

740
00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:12.280
<v Speaker 2>research on because we're just, i mean barely scraping the

741
00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:16.280
<v Speaker 2>tip of the iceberg here. I've watched video after video

742
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:19.920
<v Speaker 2>after video in the last few days, and it's I'm

743
00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:22.679
<v Speaker 2>still learning, still letting it sync in, but it's just

744
00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:25.840
<v Speaker 2>it's almost overwhelming how much out there. And it's one

745
00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:28.599
<v Speaker 2>of those things that's just hidden in plain sight, like

746
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:32.159
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the Masonic imagery and things like that.

747
00:50:32.280 --> 00:50:34.840
<v Speaker 2>And if you look at some of the things that

748
00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:41.440
<v Speaker 2>they built, they were like schools, cathedrals, temples, museums, even

749
00:50:41.480 --> 00:50:44.480
<v Speaker 2>some theaters and stuff, some of those old Art deco

750
00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:50.159
<v Speaker 2>show places like that. It's just I don't understand. I mean,

751
00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:53.119
<v Speaker 2>there's something that feels off, that feels wrong about all this,

752
00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:55.400
<v Speaker 2>and I can't even put my finger on what it is.

753
00:50:55.400 --> 00:50:57.320
<v Speaker 2>It feels so wrong about it. It's like you were saying,

754
00:50:57.320 --> 00:51:00.719
<v Speaker 2>those places feel kind of there's a dark energy or

755
00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:04.639
<v Speaker 2>like maybe they're haunted or something there. It's hard to describe.

756
00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:06.280
<v Speaker 2>This is a weird, eerie.

757
00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Feeling, definitely. And so yeah, all this once again it

758
00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:15.800
<v Speaker 1>makes you question our history and and for me, you know,

759
00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:20.039
<v Speaker 1>I I you know, I feel like our history, especially

760
00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:26.599
<v Speaker 1>the history that we've been taught, has really uh damaged

761
00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:29.159
<v Speaker 1>a lot of us. You know, I feel like it's

762
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:35.079
<v Speaker 1>separated a lot of our country and our world. But

763
00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:40.599
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know. I feel very much connected to people,

764
00:51:40.800 --> 00:51:42.880
<v Speaker 1>no matter where you're from or where you where you

765
00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:46.400
<v Speaker 1>came from. You know, I love all people and and

766
00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:49.760
<v Speaker 1>and being here in the US is just a melting pot,

767
00:51:49.880 --> 00:51:52.760
<v Speaker 1>especially here in Los Angeles, and I just feel like

768
00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:57.440
<v Speaker 1>we all have a part in this, you know, whether

769
00:51:57.840 --> 00:52:01.000
<v Speaker 1>you're native, whether you know you came from Europe or

770
00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:05.199
<v Speaker 1>Africa or wherever it is, we all have something to

771
00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:08.239
<v Speaker 1>do with this. So we're all included somehow, and we're

772
00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:11.599
<v Speaker 1>all just trying to figure out, uh, you know, what

773
00:52:11.719 --> 00:52:15.400
<v Speaker 1>the deal is. And and I feel like, yeah, you know,

774
00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:19.519
<v Speaker 1>hopefully this doesn't separate people more. I feel like, hopefully

775
00:52:19.559 --> 00:52:24.559
<v Speaker 1>it brings more people together and and as we learn,

776
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:29.000
<v Speaker 1>you know more, hopefully uh more people get into this

777
00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:33.320
<v Speaker 1>and and share share their knowledge. Because uh there's a

778
00:52:33.519 --> 00:52:37.079
<v Speaker 1>few people that are have come out as as of

779
00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:42.159
<v Speaker 1>late talking about their uh you know, their their lineage

780
00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:44.880
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that and finding out that that that

781
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:47.119
<v Speaker 1>that there is something you know up you know, some

782
00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:52.000
<v Speaker 1>people don't remember certain things and stuff like that, and uh, yeah,

783
00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:56.760
<v Speaker 1>it's it's bizarre and definitely something I'm going to keep

784
00:52:56.800 --> 00:52:57.400
<v Speaker 1>looking into.

785
00:52:58.719 --> 00:53:01.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially in this day and age, you know, with

786
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:05.599
<v Speaker 2>twenty three and me and all these things in the genealogy.

787
00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:10.480
<v Speaker 2>I know my brother years and years ago looked into ours.

788
00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:13.519
<v Speaker 2>But you can only get so far back, and then

789
00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:16.760
<v Speaker 2>you seem to hit like the dead end. You know,

790
00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:19.480
<v Speaker 2>a brick wall there, and I don't know if that's

791
00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:22.639
<v Speaker 2>my design or just you know, the record keeping thing.

792
00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:25.880
<v Speaker 2>But then you look at other places, ancient civilizations, so

793
00:53:26.039 --> 00:53:28.719
<v Speaker 2>you can trace all kinds of things back. But then

794
00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:31.880
<v Speaker 2>here in America we as the people, and we go

795
00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:35.480
<v Speaker 2>back so far and did find some interesting things out about.

796
00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:41.039
<v Speaker 2>My family had people that served under George Washington, and

797
00:53:41.079 --> 00:53:43.320
<v Speaker 2>then I had people on both sides in the Civil

798
00:53:43.320 --> 00:53:51.440
<v Speaker 2>War and now mainly British English. Rather on my mother's side,

799
00:53:51.480 --> 00:53:55.960
<v Speaker 2>they immigrated over from England and landed in the CAD's

800
00:53:56.000 --> 00:54:00.639
<v Speaker 2>Cove area, and my mother was I think sick generation.

801
00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:03.639
<v Speaker 2>My dad's family they were from Middle Tenancy over on

802
00:54:03.639 --> 00:54:08.440
<v Speaker 2>the Cumberland Plaza. They were from I think Scotland in England,

803
00:54:08.559 --> 00:54:12.840
<v Speaker 2>and then they mixed with the Native Cherokee there, so

804
00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm an eighth Cherokee I think on that side. But

805
00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:19.840
<v Speaker 2>it's still it's now over there, like where my dad

806
00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:22.960
<v Speaker 2>was from. You can only trace things back so far

807
00:54:23.079 --> 00:54:28.159
<v Speaker 2>because they as far as proof anyway, they burned the

808
00:54:28.159 --> 00:54:31.719
<v Speaker 2>courthouse there in Jamestown, Finchans County during the Civil War.

809
00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:35.360
<v Speaker 2>So I tried to trace that Cherokee lineage back and

810
00:54:35.440 --> 00:54:39.559
<v Speaker 2>I know which relative it was, and I can find

811
00:54:39.599 --> 00:54:43.599
<v Speaker 2>her on the Cherokee rolls, but the marriage certificate and

812
00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:46.000
<v Speaker 2>all that was lost in the courthouse fire during the

813
00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:48.639
<v Speaker 2>Civil War. So I know it, but I can't prove it.

814
00:54:48.719 --> 00:54:55.639
<v Speaker 1>One of those things interesting. Yeah, yeah, I'm telling you.

815
00:54:55.840 --> 00:54:57.920
<v Speaker 1>With this topic, there's so many things, and I know,

816
00:54:58.199 --> 00:55:02.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, you can't do it all within a couple hours,

817
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:06.119
<v Speaker 1>that's for sure. I mean there's so many angles of

818
00:55:06.199 --> 00:55:09.400
<v Speaker 1>this that you could just pick at, and that's why

819
00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:11.800
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I was just a little scrambled in

820
00:55:11.840 --> 00:55:14.880
<v Speaker 1>this conversation. I was like trying to cover as much possible.

821
00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:17.599
<v Speaker 2>I know, it's all over the road, man, but that's

822
00:55:17.719 --> 00:55:20.159
<v Speaker 2>that's good. I mean, this is literally everything out there,

823
00:55:20.360 --> 00:55:23.559
<v Speaker 2>but it is. It's such a scattered topic and there's

824
00:55:23.599 --> 00:55:27.559
<v Speaker 2>so many separate and interesting rabbit holes to dive down.

825
00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:29.519
<v Speaker 2>It's a whole web of stuff there.

826
00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:34.599
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes it is. And another one, for instance, is

827
00:55:34.639 --> 00:55:39.039
<v Speaker 1>like the symbol of Tartaria, you know, and I feel

828
00:55:39.639 --> 00:55:43.039
<v Speaker 1>I'll say, you know, people will call it, like I said,

829
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<v Speaker 1>the topic Tartaria, but I don't feel it's all Tartarian

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<v Speaker 1>all around, like these Tartarians were everywhere once And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's like that. It comes across like

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<v Speaker 1>that when you get into it, but I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's more to it. But we say Tartaria to

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<v Speaker 1>cover the topic. And that their symbol being a griffin,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you'll find uh in a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>buildings and and in in certain architecture you'll find these griffins,

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<v Speaker 1>and so could it be that that that was their symbol?

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00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:25.400
<v Speaker 1>And when you get into Tartaria, Uh, that was I

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<v Speaker 1>believe in northern and like northern Russia, and I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it was the Russians that eventually had taken over tart Tartaria.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you had mentioned the maps. That's a whole

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<v Speaker 1>other topic there is is you get into these old

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<v Speaker 1>maps and there's some very interesting ones and the way

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<v Speaker 1>the certain land masses were laid out, and certain land

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00:56:49.119 --> 00:56:52.280
<v Speaker 1>masses that were around and no longer around, and and

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00:56:52.320 --> 00:56:55.639
<v Speaker 1>you'll see the name, uh, the Tartaria sometimes spelled a

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00:56:55.639 --> 00:57:00.400
<v Speaker 1>little different and uh, and yeah, the maps is just

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00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:06.360
<v Speaker 1>a whole other wormhole there. Yeah, I don't know, it's

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00:57:06.440 --> 00:57:11.039
<v Speaker 1>just so many questions and we could definitely get into

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00:57:11.079 --> 00:57:16.719
<v Speaker 1>this again and hopefully focus on certain little points. But yeah,

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00:57:16.760 --> 00:57:21.039
<v Speaker 1>because the airship one thing, it brings up modern day

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00:57:21.400 --> 00:57:23.800
<v Speaker 1>UFOs also that we're having. You know, I did want

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<v Speaker 1>to touch on this a little bit. We did mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>in the beginning we're talking, Uh, we were going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk a little about the aerial phenomenon's happening here. And

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00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:34.840
<v Speaker 1>as of late, it seems like things are ramping up.

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00:57:34.840 --> 00:57:40.199
<v Speaker 1>You're getting these drone sightings and so outside our shop

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<v Speaker 1>with my brother and I have a shop at skate

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<v Speaker 1>shop and there's been a bunch of sightings and it's

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00:57:46.920 --> 00:57:51.400
<v Speaker 1>some of the videos you'll see on my channel. It

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00:57:51.480 --> 00:57:53.679
<v Speaker 1>seemed like, yeah, it was alarming just to see how

862
00:57:53.719 --> 00:57:58.079
<v Speaker 1>much activity was going on there. And you know, so

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00:57:58.159 --> 00:58:02.000
<v Speaker 1>we were talking these airships and then high tech. You know,

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00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:05.719
<v Speaker 1>I think it comes across my mind that I wondered, like, well,

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00:58:05.880 --> 00:58:10.480
<v Speaker 1>did they have UFOs then? I mean even in Vedic,

866
00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:15.679
<v Speaker 1>you know old Vedic texts, you hear about these vimanas

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00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:20.000
<v Speaker 1>UFOs way back then, and so I think it's very possible,

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00:58:20.039 --> 00:58:22.960
<v Speaker 1>and it could be possible that some of that technology

869
00:58:23.079 --> 00:58:25.559
<v Speaker 1>still around, which could be some of these sightings we're

870
00:58:25.599 --> 00:58:30.880
<v Speaker 1>having now as well. I don't know, but definitely something

871
00:58:30.920 --> 00:58:35.920
<v Speaker 1>to think about. And yeah, very just strange times now,

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00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:36.440
<v Speaker 1>asked Steve.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, And that's an old Chinese blessing and a curse.

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00:58:44.119 --> 00:58:46.719
<v Speaker 2>May you live in interesting times. And brother, we are

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00:58:46.840 --> 00:58:50.199
<v Speaker 2>right in the middle of all kinds of thirty two

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00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:57.239
<v Speaker 2>flavors of interesting, just some good, some bad, but interesting. Nonetheless, Brander,

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00:58:57.519 --> 00:59:00.440
<v Speaker 2>let's take a little break here for about five midicine.

878
00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Then we'll come back and pick up where we left off.

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00:59:03.039 --> 00:59:05.719
<v Speaker 2>I want to hear the story behind some of those

880
00:59:06.280 --> 00:59:09.920
<v Speaker 2>fabulous UFO videos that you have on your channel. We'll

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00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:13.519
<v Speaker 2>be back right after this on everything out there on

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00:59:13.519 --> 00:59:16.320
<v Speaker 2>the Clyde Lewis Ground zero Radio Network.

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<v Speaker 3>Will It's one thing to be upset with someone.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, one fool to hold grand.

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01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:46.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh, one mistake, Oh onestake isn't much to make.

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01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:49.000
<v Speaker 1>It's one mistake.

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01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Angelous Sabby, nor sorry Sabby.

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01:01:54.920 --> 01:01:58.199
<v Speaker 1>But it's just the god.

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01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:02.000
<v Speaker 3>Fast stop.

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01:02:03.519 --> 01:02:08.000
<v Speaker 6>Some day the cloud will break, so that had the

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01:02:08.280 --> 01:02:09.840
<v Speaker 6>sun can.

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01:02:19.679 --> 01:02:21.119
<v Speaker 2>Leave lit fing.

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01:02:22.519 --> 01:02:25.800
<v Speaker 6>To be up with some word.

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01:02:28.199 --> 01:02:36.960
<v Speaker 3>A chapel with the door the darky did Oh that's

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<v Speaker 3>one A steak.

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01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:46.800
<v Speaker 6>U steak you card of But to make comp steak

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01:02:48.880 --> 01:03:04.360
<v Speaker 6>now you blow the way the change is change comt.

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<v Speaker 3>Something cloud work sull I the sun can shute.

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01:03:51.239 --> 01:03:53.280
<v Speaker 6>Oh when it's nothing.

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01:03:54.880 --> 01:03:56.679
<v Speaker 3>JOm Camel.

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01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:00.679
<v Speaker 6>Care not.

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01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:05.840
<v Speaker 3>To forget about full game.

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01:04:08.079 --> 01:04:11.199
<v Speaker 6>See make mistakes.

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01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:19.039
<v Speaker 3>The mistakes we never read sad to make. Come with Sid.

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01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:22.760
<v Speaker 6>To fan fool game.

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01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:28.480
<v Speaker 3>James will come.

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01:04:31.800 --> 01:04:40.840
<v Speaker 6>So cloud him fray so that the sun cat shine.

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01:04:42.039 --> 01:04:53.440
<v Speaker 6>It's Jalouses your com with something shout will wait you

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01:04:54.000 --> 01:05:29.360
<v Speaker 6>see that at the sun can shine. It's choice. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Lee g from First four Audio and the Calm

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01:05:33.079 --> 01:05:36.920
<v Speaker 2>before the Storm. Welcome back everything out there on the

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01:05:37.000 --> 01:05:40.760
<v Speaker 2>Clyde Lewis Grand Zero Radio Network. I'm Steve Stockton and

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01:05:40.960 --> 01:05:44.920
<v Speaker 2>we're talking to our very special guest, Brown Dwarf. You know,

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01:05:45.199 --> 01:05:48.760
<v Speaker 2>in this hour we're going to talk about some UFOs

931
01:05:48.880 --> 01:05:52.599
<v Speaker 2>U A p S, the strange aero phenomena that my

932
01:05:52.760 --> 01:05:56.480
<v Speaker 2>friend here is documenting on his YouTube channel. That's Brown

933
01:05:56.639 --> 01:05:59.239
<v Speaker 2>Underscore Dwarf on YouTube. There'll be a link in the

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01:05:59.280 --> 01:06:03.639
<v Speaker 2>show notes Boundorf. I just wanted to ask you what

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01:06:04.599 --> 01:06:08.320
<v Speaker 2>initially got you interested in UFOs. Was it a sighting

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01:06:08.519 --> 01:06:11.400
<v Speaker 2>or did you just hear about it and start delowing

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01:06:11.480 --> 01:06:13.679
<v Speaker 2>into it or what's your backstory on that?

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks? For having me back, Steve, and that was awesome

939
01:06:18.480 --> 01:06:20.400
<v Speaker 1>to hear Leon there. I didn't know that was him

940
01:06:21.599 --> 01:06:27.079
<v Speaker 1>initially got me into this. Well. Growing up in Los Angeles, Hollywood, California,

941
01:06:28.079 --> 01:06:31.880
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of a trip. Growing up there, I was

942
01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:34.079
<v Speaker 1>always exposed to a lot of I guess you could

943
01:06:34.119 --> 01:06:37.400
<v Speaker 1>say programming and a lot of those cool shows that

944
01:06:37.519 --> 01:06:39.760
<v Speaker 1>you used to see back in the day on TV,

945
01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:43.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, unsolved mysteries. There was a cool UFO show

946
01:06:43.760 --> 01:06:47.679
<v Speaker 1>called Sightings. Oh man, there was a bunch of them

947
01:06:47.719 --> 01:06:50.360
<v Speaker 1>back in the day that I used to follow. And

948
01:06:50.760 --> 01:06:52.960
<v Speaker 1>and so I always had a feeling that there was

949
01:06:53.360 --> 01:06:57.320
<v Speaker 1>more out there, and I still believe that till this day.

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01:06:57.400 --> 01:07:00.199
<v Speaker 1>I just I'm at a point, Steve, where I feel like,

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01:07:00.320 --> 01:07:03.559
<v Speaker 1>if you could think it, imagine it, it's probably has

952
01:07:03.760 --> 01:07:06.000
<v Speaker 1>happened or or is happening somewhere.

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01:07:07.320 --> 01:07:08.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I feel like that every day.

954
01:07:10.480 --> 01:07:13.719
<v Speaker 1>And and so yeah, So as the youth, I always, uh,

955
01:07:14.119 --> 01:07:16.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, would keep an eye out for anything strange.

956
01:07:16.320 --> 01:07:20.280
<v Speaker 1>I was always fascinated by like Ripley's and like the

957
01:07:20.400 --> 01:07:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Guinness Book of Records and stuff. So always keeping an

958
01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:27.679
<v Speaker 1>eye out for the strange and an ear out. And

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01:07:27.840 --> 01:07:30.639
<v Speaker 1>so I remember, yeah, a few times, you know, in

960
01:07:30.760 --> 01:07:33.320
<v Speaker 1>the city seeing some weird stuff in the skies and

961
01:07:33.480 --> 01:07:37.440
<v Speaker 1>and never anything like a disk or anything. It might

962
01:07:37.480 --> 01:07:39.719
<v Speaker 1>have been some like weird lights and stuff like that.

963
01:07:40.039 --> 01:07:46.079
<v Speaker 1>But moving fast forward to now, uh once again, the technology.

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01:07:46.199 --> 01:07:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Now we got cameras and phones and stuff like that.

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01:07:49.239 --> 01:07:52.320
<v Speaker 1>And there's a few other topics that actually get into

966
01:07:52.440 --> 01:07:56.079
<v Speaker 1>and you'll find on my page. But with those topics,

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01:07:56.159 --> 01:08:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I've been collecting different gadgets, cameras, thermal imaging and night

968
01:08:03.079 --> 01:08:06.239
<v Speaker 1>vision and stuff like that, and just to help once

969
01:08:06.280 --> 01:08:12.519
<v Speaker 1>again to document and to help present what we're capturing

970
01:08:12.639 --> 01:08:16.640
<v Speaker 1>and what we're trying to express here. So with that,

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01:08:16.920 --> 01:08:21.359
<v Speaker 1>I've become not too bad with with the hitting that

972
01:08:21.479 --> 01:08:25.000
<v Speaker 1>record button, you know. And and it's almost like a

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01:08:25.079 --> 01:08:27.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of times it's it's a feeling, you know, there's

974
01:08:27.840 --> 01:08:30.800
<v Speaker 1>just these feelings I get sometimes and I hear others

975
01:08:30.920 --> 01:08:36.079
<v Speaker 1>also share this, and you know, you'll look up and

976
01:08:36.520 --> 01:08:38.479
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, there's something there, you know. Or

977
01:08:38.680 --> 01:08:41.439
<v Speaker 1>there's other times where you're just kind of scanning the skies,

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01:08:41.560 --> 01:08:44.840
<v Speaker 1>not much happening, and then boot something pops up and

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01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:48.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's just different ways. There's also the

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01:08:49.159 --> 01:08:51.960
<v Speaker 1>CE five method I've I've been out with a few

981
01:08:52.159 --> 01:08:57.840
<v Speaker 1>UFO groups here locally who do like some meditation work

982
01:08:57.960 --> 01:09:02.880
<v Speaker 1>to try and summon some of these craft or beings,

983
01:09:04.279 --> 01:09:07.119
<v Speaker 1>and it's cool hanging out with them. I've gotten some

984
01:09:07.399 --> 01:09:11.680
<v Speaker 1>really interesting experiences and documented some interesting stuff at those

985
01:09:11.760 --> 01:09:15.560
<v Speaker 1>gatherings as well. And it just seems as of late

986
01:09:16.520 --> 01:09:20.239
<v Speaker 1>because I was living in northern California and southern Oregon,

987
01:09:20.359 --> 01:09:23.680
<v Speaker 1>but I had recently moved back to LA and even

988
01:09:24.079 --> 01:09:26.840
<v Speaker 1>up north I was having experiences there. There was one

989
01:09:26.880 --> 01:09:31.960
<v Speaker 1>particular property where I was having strange activity and these

990
01:09:32.119 --> 01:09:35.079
<v Speaker 1>lights were popping up, these orbs of lights. So if

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01:09:35.159 --> 01:09:38.359
<v Speaker 1>you dig far enough back in some of my videos,

992
01:09:39.359 --> 01:09:42.720
<v Speaker 1>you'll see where these lights, these orbs of lights were

993
01:09:42.760 --> 01:09:45.960
<v Speaker 1>popping up on the property along with other strange activity.

994
01:09:47.560 --> 01:09:50.520
<v Speaker 1>So there was stuff happening up there. And then I

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01:09:50.600 --> 01:09:53.119
<v Speaker 1>get down here to LA and been out here a

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01:09:53.199 --> 01:09:56.199
<v Speaker 1>few years, and the past couple of years it's just

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01:09:56.279 --> 01:10:01.000
<v Speaker 1>been almost like NonStop outside of the shop, where UH

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01:10:01.439 --> 01:10:06.479
<v Speaker 1>You're getting these weird UH anomalies and and weird objects

999
01:10:06.560 --> 01:10:10.159
<v Speaker 1>in the skies and and some of them I believe

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<v Speaker 1>could be UH mimicking certain objects that were used to

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01:10:16.359 --> 01:10:20.199
<v Speaker 1>already and know of. So for example, I think there's

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01:10:20.399 --> 01:10:23.840
<v Speaker 1>uh certain balloons that have been popping up in our

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01:10:23.920 --> 01:10:29.079
<v Speaker 1>area which looked like, you know, a party balloon or

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01:10:29.239 --> 01:10:33.720
<v Speaker 1>or your normal balloon, but it's not. It's not acting

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01:10:34.039 --> 01:10:37.039
<v Speaker 1>like a normal balloon. These things sometimes and they'll have

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01:10:37.239 --> 01:10:40.119
<v Speaker 1>like a tether on them and everything. Uh, but they

1007
01:10:40.319 --> 01:10:46.159
<v Speaker 1>tend to like uh sometimes they'll seem to disappear and appear.

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01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:47.159
<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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01:10:47.560 --> 01:10:53.439
<v Speaker 1>They're also seem to uh I don't want to say radiate,

1010
01:10:53.600 --> 01:10:57.279
<v Speaker 1>but it's almost like, uh, like a flashing. So imagine

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01:10:57.319 --> 01:11:01.159
<v Speaker 1>if you're looking at mylar balloon floating in the sky

1012
01:11:01.479 --> 01:11:05.840
<v Speaker 1>and the sun's hitting it, that flashing from the milar

1013
01:11:06.199 --> 01:11:09.199
<v Speaker 1>that's what it looks like. But I don't think it

1014
01:11:09.359 --> 01:11:12.079
<v Speaker 1>is all the time. And we do get balloon traffic,

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01:11:12.600 --> 01:11:15.840
<v Speaker 1>which is you know, it's also kind of a weird

1016
01:11:15.920 --> 01:11:20.239
<v Speaker 1>thing because there's interesting documentary that I've seen called Balloon Cold,

1017
01:11:20.359 --> 01:11:22.640
<v Speaker 1>and I recommend people checking that out. It's a two

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01:11:22.680 --> 01:11:26.600
<v Speaker 1>part documentary and it gets into these balloon type objects

1019
01:11:26.680 --> 01:11:29.600
<v Speaker 1>and some of these other anomalous objects I'll be talking about,

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01:11:30.399 --> 01:11:33.279
<v Speaker 1>and this guy kind of gives his perspective on it.

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01:11:33.439 --> 01:11:36.279
<v Speaker 1>And it's super cool because it's very different than the

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01:11:36.359 --> 01:11:40.600
<v Speaker 1>mainstream UFO stuff, which I really question, you know, I

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01:11:40.720 --> 01:11:43.000
<v Speaker 1>really questioned a lot of the mainstream stuff which I

1024
01:11:44.880 --> 01:11:48.359
<v Speaker 1>feel like I stay on top of. But it's it's

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01:11:48.600 --> 01:11:50.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot of it is not what I'm experiencing and

1026
01:11:50.920 --> 01:11:55.960
<v Speaker 1>what others that I know are experiencing. And so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>some of these objects are sometimes once again these or

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<v Speaker 1>so it'll look like these balloons but without the tether.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they are an odd shaped, like not quite perfectly

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<v Speaker 1>round or spherical, and sometimes they are and they've come

1031
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<v Speaker 1>in different colors. And this is most of this footage

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01:12:15.399 --> 01:12:18.600
<v Speaker 1>is daytime, you know, and and yeah, we try to

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01:12:18.720 --> 01:12:23.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, weed out any stuff that could be uh,

1034
01:12:23.920 --> 01:12:28.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, trash or bugs. There's also these other objects

1035
01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:33.640
<v Speaker 1>that are seeming to show up along these other anomalies.

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<v Speaker 1>And these objects seem like your typical like flying saucer

1037
01:12:37.640 --> 01:12:41.279
<v Speaker 1>and they zip by in the video. They're so fast

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01:12:41.359 --> 01:12:45.920
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you can't even see them. And so when I

1039
01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:49.119
<v Speaker 1>first started seeing those, I figured these are bugs or

1040
01:12:49.199 --> 01:12:52.720
<v Speaker 1>flies or something, right, And and I started slowing down

1041
01:12:52.760 --> 01:12:56.079
<v Speaker 1>the videos and I started noticing these very saucer shape.

1042
01:12:57.199 --> 01:13:01.359
<v Speaker 1>But then at times these things whatever it is, seems

1043
01:13:01.399 --> 01:13:06.720
<v Speaker 1>to have these like wings like a bug, but they're not,

1044
01:13:07.039 --> 01:13:10.640
<v Speaker 1>because these things are moving very very oddly, not like

1045
01:13:10.720 --> 01:13:15.720
<v Speaker 1>your typical insect fly or whatever. And they also tend

1046
01:13:15.840 --> 01:13:20.720
<v Speaker 1>to disappear, like appear disappear. It seems like they're like

1047
01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:25.840
<v Speaker 1>coming in and out of our reality almost, it's what

1048
01:13:25.960 --> 01:13:30.159
<v Speaker 1>it seems like. And these objects seem to be almost

1049
01:13:30.279 --> 01:13:35.800
<v Speaker 1>like monitoring anything that's flying, So basically anything like a balloon,

1050
01:13:36.079 --> 01:13:42.680
<v Speaker 1>an airplane, a helicopter, anything that's flying. You're pretty I'm

1051
01:13:42.680 --> 01:13:44.920
<v Speaker 1>pretty sure that I could capture these things, and especially

1052
01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:48.760
<v Speaker 1>in out this area outside the shop and there goes

1053
01:13:48.800 --> 01:13:52.760
<v Speaker 1>the train and so it's something about the shop. So

1054
01:13:52.840 --> 01:13:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I've met with this other YouTuber that has really been

1055
01:13:58.359 --> 01:14:00.640
<v Speaker 1>looking into these and he's not too far away from

1056
01:14:00.680 --> 01:14:03.800
<v Speaker 1>where I am, and he's in Marina del Rey, and

1057
01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:10.079
<v Speaker 1>he's also noticed that these things possibly give off almost

1058
01:14:10.159 --> 01:14:12.960
<v Speaker 1>like a sound, like a clicking sound when they appear,

1059
01:14:13.760 --> 01:14:17.600
<v Speaker 1>and he believes that they are some sort of ufo

1060
01:14:17.920 --> 01:14:23.239
<v Speaker 1>uap and uh, and he calls them dragons dragon UFOs

1061
01:14:23.279 --> 01:14:27.119
<v Speaker 1>because he thought they were dragonflies at first, but they're

1062
01:14:27.399 --> 01:14:30.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's convinced that they're not. And I also

1063
01:14:30.079 --> 01:14:34.199
<v Speaker 1>don't think that uh, they're bugs, but they do look

1064
01:14:34.279 --> 01:14:38.399
<v Speaker 1>like it sometimes, but they're they're not. They's something strange

1065
01:14:38.399 --> 01:14:40.560
<v Speaker 1>about these things. And I could send you plenty of

1066
01:14:40.680 --> 01:14:44.520
<v Speaker 1>timestamp pictures, and like I said, there's plenty of videos

1067
01:14:44.560 --> 01:14:50.319
<v Speaker 1>posted as of late. There. I did capture one night

1068
01:14:50.439 --> 01:14:54.399
<v Speaker 1>vision video, and this people might find a little more

1069
01:14:54.479 --> 01:14:56.960
<v Speaker 1>cool because most of the times it's these orbs, these

1070
01:14:57.000 --> 01:15:02.079
<v Speaker 1>balloon type these uh, these dragon UFOs. But I did

1071
01:15:02.279 --> 01:15:07.880
<v Speaker 1>capture what looked like a triangle UFO craft and this

1072
01:15:08.079 --> 01:15:11.359
<v Speaker 1>was at nighttime and here here in Los Angeles, and

1073
01:15:11.560 --> 01:15:15.079
<v Speaker 1>this was just maybe a month ago, a few weeks ago,

1074
01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:20.880
<v Speaker 1>and so I don't know if this triangle was actually

1075
01:15:21.039 --> 01:15:24.920
<v Speaker 1>it looked like six maybe six different balls a light

1076
01:15:25.079 --> 01:15:28.359
<v Speaker 1>but in the formation of triangle, and so I don't

1077
01:15:28.399 --> 01:15:31.560
<v Speaker 1>know if those were separate objects or they were one

1078
01:15:31.800 --> 01:15:34.680
<v Speaker 1>solid mass object. And what came to mind is the

1079
01:15:35.159 --> 01:15:38.600
<v Speaker 1>tr three B. I believe it is, and it's an

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01:15:38.640 --> 01:15:44.000
<v Speaker 1>aircraft that we you know, that's ours, and so yeah,

1081
01:15:44.039 --> 01:15:47.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think people find that more fascinating

1082
01:15:47.439 --> 01:15:50.560
<v Speaker 1>than the orbs and the other stuff, which you know,

1083
01:15:50.920 --> 01:15:54.319
<v Speaker 1>I think the other stuff is a little more cool

1084
01:15:54.560 --> 01:15:59.840
<v Speaker 1>because I do believe that TRB three uh is our technology,

1085
01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:04.840
<v Speaker 1>possibly hybrid technology with with et, but I think those

1086
01:16:04.880 --> 01:16:08.800
<v Speaker 1>are definitely ours. But nice. It's really nice to see

1087
01:16:08.840 --> 01:16:12.239
<v Speaker 1>them fly by, and it was an awesome capture. And

1088
01:16:12.640 --> 01:16:15.039
<v Speaker 1>and that's my thing too, is to be able to document,

1089
01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:18.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, what it is we're doing, because I feel

1090
01:16:19.119 --> 01:16:21.439
<v Speaker 1>these days there's just so much talk once again in

1091
01:16:21.479 --> 01:16:24.880
<v Speaker 1>the mainstream, people you know, trying to figure out how

1092
01:16:24.920 --> 01:16:27.079
<v Speaker 1>to make a buck, and and there's a lot of money.

1093
01:16:27.199 --> 01:16:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I feel like there's a lot of money in this

1094
01:16:30.319 --> 01:16:33.119
<v Speaker 1>and that's not what I'm after, but people are making

1095
01:16:33.239 --> 01:16:36.199
<v Speaker 1>money and stuff like that. My thing is just to

1096
01:16:36.239 --> 01:16:41.000
<v Speaker 1>be able to capture these things on video and bring

1097
01:16:41.560 --> 01:16:46.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever data back if possible, to to share

1098
01:16:46.359 --> 01:16:51.479
<v Speaker 1>with everyone out here, you know. But yeah, something definitely

1099
01:16:51.560 --> 01:16:54.199
<v Speaker 1>going on outside of the shop there because it seems

1100
01:16:54.279 --> 01:16:59.279
<v Speaker 1>to be a flight zone for lax traffic. And then

1101
01:16:59.600 --> 01:17:02.600
<v Speaker 1>what I've been noticing also is a whole lot of

1102
01:17:02.960 --> 01:17:07.159
<v Speaker 1>military traffic going by, so you're getting we're getting these choppers,

1103
01:17:07.680 --> 01:17:11.319
<v Speaker 1>different types apaches asprays. The other day for the first

1104
01:17:11.359 --> 01:17:14.680
<v Speaker 1>time I guess there was they're called the are they

1105
01:17:14.720 --> 01:17:17.520
<v Speaker 1>called the Giant stallions or something like that. I think

1106
01:17:17.720 --> 01:17:23.359
<v Speaker 1>it's h king stallions. And they were flying by that

1107
01:17:23.800 --> 01:17:26.399
<v Speaker 1>just it just gave this odd vibe.

1108
01:17:26.760 --> 01:17:27.600
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's like.

1109
01:17:27.760 --> 01:17:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Something's going on here. And so I've been capturing a

1110
01:17:30.760 --> 01:17:32.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of of that stuff as well. And you know,

1111
01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:38.359
<v Speaker 1>when they fly by, you're getting these odd things flying

1112
01:17:38.399 --> 01:17:40.760
<v Speaker 1>along with them. So I wonder it could be some

1113
01:17:40.880 --> 01:17:43.359
<v Speaker 1>of their technology, you know, maybe some sort of new

1114
01:17:44.399 --> 01:17:48.520
<v Speaker 1>tech that they got that it's just monitoring things. I

1115
01:17:48.600 --> 01:17:51.239
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I wonder, or could it be you know,

1116
01:17:51.520 --> 01:17:56.399
<v Speaker 1>et maybe there's a mother ship somewhere and they're sending

1117
01:17:56.760 --> 01:17:59.119
<v Speaker 1>down their little drones to monitor stuff. You know. That

1118
01:17:59.279 --> 01:18:03.520
<v Speaker 1>comes across my mine. So many questions with this also,

1119
01:18:03.680 --> 01:18:06.319
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, if you ever want to try and come

1120
01:18:06.399 --> 01:18:09.359
<v Speaker 1>and have a sighting, I can. You know, the possibilities

1121
01:18:09.359 --> 01:18:12.239
<v Speaker 1>are pretty high. I don't guarantee it, but yeah, come

1122
01:18:12.359 --> 01:18:16.960
<v Speaker 1>check out our shop and you know, things are happening there.

1123
01:18:17.520 --> 01:18:20.039
<v Speaker 1>And there's a lot of strange people around there too. Man,

1124
01:18:20.119 --> 01:18:22.000
<v Speaker 1>it makes me question some of it because we're close

1125
01:18:22.039 --> 01:18:25.920
<v Speaker 1>to downtown LA, and I wonder about some of these

1126
01:18:25.960 --> 01:18:28.520
<v Speaker 1>people sometimes. It makes me wonder if their teas.

1127
01:18:29.600 --> 01:18:33.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you never know, I've met some people like that before.

1128
01:18:33.840 --> 01:18:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Just let everybody know, what's the name of the shop

1129
01:18:36.000 --> 01:18:37.279
<v Speaker 2>and then where they can find him.

1130
01:18:37.680 --> 01:18:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Yes, we're located in East LA right at the border

1131
01:18:41.680 --> 01:18:45.479
<v Speaker 1>of Boyle Heights and East La on Olympic in Indiana,

1132
01:18:46.159 --> 01:18:50.119
<v Speaker 1>and it's called Sky's the Limits Smoke Shops, So it's

1133
01:18:50.159 --> 01:18:55.000
<v Speaker 1>a smoke shop, but we have skateboards, art supplies, clothing

1134
01:18:55.119 --> 01:18:57.199
<v Speaker 1>and all types of other stuff. We just recently got

1135
01:18:57.520 --> 01:19:03.319
<v Speaker 1>an alien painted in the front and with the UFO

1136
01:19:03.760 --> 01:19:06.600
<v Speaker 1>and and a bigfoot there, so you know, we're keeping

1137
01:19:06.680 --> 01:19:11.760
<v Speaker 1>the theme going along with the business here. But yeah, no,

1138
01:19:11.840 --> 01:19:14.159
<v Speaker 1>it's it's super odd. And you know LA has been

1139
01:19:14.239 --> 01:19:17.960
<v Speaker 1>known for it's a hot spot for the UFO stuff

1140
01:19:18.039 --> 01:19:21.640
<v Speaker 1>and the ET stuff. So it's not really surprising to

1141
01:19:21.760 --> 01:19:25.560
<v Speaker 1>me that all this is happening. What does surprise me

1142
01:19:25.600 --> 01:19:28.680
<v Speaker 1>a little is that, Yeah, I don't know. I feel

1143
01:19:28.720 --> 01:19:33.279
<v Speaker 1>like I wish I could get some maybe some so

1144
01:19:33.520 --> 01:19:37.399
<v Speaker 1>called experts out here to see what's really going on.

1145
01:19:37.600 --> 01:19:39.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, it'd be cool to have some some more

1146
01:19:39.399 --> 01:19:44.920
<v Speaker 1>professional people, maybe some people with some better gear or

1147
01:19:45.399 --> 01:19:50.079
<v Speaker 1>or just some some different ideas to see what we

1148
01:19:50.159 --> 01:19:51.960
<v Speaker 1>could do here. Even like some of the groups that

1149
01:19:52.039 --> 01:19:55.239
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned, I've mentioned to them about the activity there,

1150
01:19:55.279 --> 01:19:59.840
<v Speaker 1>and I've had one maybe two people come by and

1151
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:04.000
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, things have happened, and but it'd be cool

1152
01:20:04.039 --> 01:20:06.079
<v Speaker 1>to have a whole group there. Maybe I might start

1153
01:20:06.159 --> 01:20:09.279
<v Speaker 1>my own little group on certain days and we'll have

1154
01:20:09.399 --> 01:20:13.119
<v Speaker 1>a night watch or day SkyWatch there, you know, and

1155
01:20:13.239 --> 01:20:15.800
<v Speaker 1>the people could come and buy snacks and drinks while

1156
01:20:15.800 --> 01:20:16.479
<v Speaker 1>they're at it there.

1157
01:20:17.359 --> 01:20:19.520
<v Speaker 2>That'd be cool. Get upon the roof or something and

1158
01:20:20.199 --> 01:20:22.720
<v Speaker 2>end the skies and see what you can see. I

1159
01:20:22.840 --> 01:20:28.119
<v Speaker 2>love stuff like that. Yeah, you mentioned the insects that

1160
01:20:28.239 --> 01:20:31.000
<v Speaker 2>aren't actually insects. I've heard of that before. I talked

1161
01:20:31.039 --> 01:20:34.159
<v Speaker 2>to a guy one time that claimed he was getting

1162
01:20:34.199 --> 01:20:37.680
<v Speaker 2>buzzed by a dragonfly that wasn't a dragonfly at all.

1163
01:20:37.720 --> 01:20:40.479
<v Speaker 2>He said it was mechanical, but it looked just like

1164
01:20:40.800 --> 01:20:44.840
<v Speaker 2>an actual dragonfly. So again, that's one of those things

1165
01:20:45.119 --> 01:20:48.880
<v Speaker 2>hiding in plain sight. What better way to spy on people,

1166
01:20:49.159 --> 01:20:53.359
<v Speaker 2>or whether aliens or some shadow government or you know,

1167
01:20:53.479 --> 01:20:56.039
<v Speaker 2>three letter agency or something. If you had something that

1168
01:20:56.159 --> 01:21:00.279
<v Speaker 2>looked like a bug, you know that nobody need pay

1169
01:21:00.279 --> 01:21:01.600
<v Speaker 2>attention to it most people.

1170
01:21:02.319 --> 01:21:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I do believe we have the capability, and

1171
01:21:05.680 --> 01:21:08.479
<v Speaker 1>it's probably already, like I said, it's probably already happening.

1172
01:21:09.399 --> 01:21:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Some kind of miniaturized, subminiaturize grown. Yeah, about the size

1173
01:21:14.520 --> 01:21:16.319
<v Speaker 2>of the dragonfly scary to think about.

1174
01:21:16.840 --> 01:21:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what's interesting you said that this guy got buzzed.

1175
01:21:19.840 --> 01:21:22.239
<v Speaker 1>I had two people as of late. Actually one guy

1176
01:21:22.399 --> 01:21:26.000
<v Speaker 1>is a YouTuber and he's he's doing fascinating work. And

1177
01:21:26.079 --> 01:21:28.800
<v Speaker 1>actually I want to hook you guys up because of

1178
01:21:29.359 --> 01:21:32.760
<v Speaker 1>what he's doing, and it's he's capturing similar stuff and

1179
01:21:32.920 --> 01:21:36.920
<v Speaker 1>he's not far from where I am. So he's in

1180
01:21:37.000 --> 01:21:41.159
<v Speaker 1>the same area. We're getting the same activity, and he's

1181
01:21:41.319 --> 01:21:44.319
<v Speaker 1>he's just as good as capturing stuff, which is amazing.

1182
01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:48.000
<v Speaker 1>And and so it gives me kind of confirmation on

1183
01:21:48.119 --> 01:21:51.159
<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing. And uh, he would be he would

1184
01:21:51.199 --> 01:21:53.800
<v Speaker 1>be great for your your UFO show and even for

1185
01:21:54.119 --> 01:22:00.920
<v Speaker 1>this show. Absolutely, yeah, yeah, And so he was recently

1186
01:22:01.039 --> 01:22:04.039
<v Speaker 1>he recently posted a video about talking about that he

1187
01:22:04.159 --> 01:22:06.880
<v Speaker 1>got buzzed and he believes by one of these things

1188
01:22:06.960 --> 01:22:10.439
<v Speaker 1>and he felt that he felt it was a negative thing.

1189
01:22:10.840 --> 01:22:15.119
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't a good feeling, he said. And the funny

1190
01:22:15.199 --> 01:22:18.600
<v Speaker 1>thing is that I had another buddy that I mentioned

1191
01:22:18.640 --> 01:22:21.239
<v Speaker 1>this stuff to, and he talked about he showed a

1192
01:22:21.319 --> 01:22:23.479
<v Speaker 1>friend and he said that his friend feels like he

1193
01:22:23.600 --> 01:22:26.279
<v Speaker 1>got buzzed by one of these things. And so I'm

1194
01:22:26.319 --> 01:22:29.159
<v Speaker 1>getting all this feedback now about people being buzzed by

1195
01:22:29.199 --> 01:22:29.680
<v Speaker 1>these things.

1196
01:22:32.399 --> 01:22:35.039
<v Speaker 2>Again, it's frightening to think about because we know we

1197
01:22:35.119 --> 01:22:39.000
<v Speaker 2>have the micro technology to be able to build things

1198
01:22:39.159 --> 01:22:42.520
<v Speaker 2>like that. And again, how many times have you had

1199
01:22:42.560 --> 01:22:44.760
<v Speaker 2>some kind of bug just come out of nowhere, either

1200
01:22:44.800 --> 01:22:47.000
<v Speaker 2>a bee or a fly or something like that, and

1201
01:22:47.239 --> 01:22:49.640
<v Speaker 2>just get right in your face like it's been sent,

1202
01:22:49.800 --> 01:22:53.479
<v Speaker 2>you know, to vex you. So I don't know. I

1203
01:22:53.560 --> 01:22:56.039
<v Speaker 2>think there might be some credence to that there. And

1204
01:22:56.159 --> 01:22:59.520
<v Speaker 2>again that's one of those out there theories, but who knows.

1205
01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:02.319
<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't put it past the powers that be to do

1206
01:23:02.479 --> 01:23:03.119
<v Speaker 2>something like that.

1207
01:23:04.319 --> 01:23:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and to give people an idea. Back in

1208
01:23:09.039 --> 01:23:11.920
<v Speaker 1>the day, there was these things and it's funny because

1209
01:23:12.199 --> 01:23:16.000
<v Speaker 1>it they kind of faded out of the scene, but

1210
01:23:16.119 --> 01:23:19.319
<v Speaker 1>there was these objects called rods as well.

1211
01:23:19.439 --> 01:23:21.359
<v Speaker 2>Rods. Yeah, I thought about that earlier when you were

1212
01:23:21.399 --> 01:23:24.640
<v Speaker 2>talking about I haven't heard anything about that. They tried

1213
01:23:24.680 --> 01:23:27.000
<v Speaker 2>to debunk it and stuff, but if you look at

1214
01:23:27.039 --> 01:23:31.960
<v Speaker 2>the video, it sure looks like something that's not supposed

1215
01:23:31.960 --> 01:23:32.159
<v Speaker 2>to be.

1216
01:23:32.239 --> 01:23:35.680
<v Speaker 1>There, right, So it's very similar to these things. And

1217
01:23:35.800 --> 01:23:38.880
<v Speaker 1>some people say that that's what these things are, but

1218
01:23:39.119 --> 01:23:41.920
<v Speaker 1>it I think there's several other objects that are very

1219
01:23:41.960 --> 01:23:45.359
<v Speaker 1>similar to the rods as well that are doing the

1220
01:23:45.359 --> 01:23:48.800
<v Speaker 1>same thing. They're just zipping by super fast. And now

1221
01:23:48.880 --> 01:23:54.479
<v Speaker 1>with our phones here, you know, bumping up in camera quality,

1222
01:23:54.560 --> 01:23:58.439
<v Speaker 1>were able to capture these things. And so yeah, we're

1223
01:23:58.479 --> 01:24:00.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna keep digging it and try to, you know, find

1224
01:24:00.920 --> 01:24:03.960
<v Speaker 1>out what we can. And it's another interesting thing. There

1225
01:24:04.039 --> 01:24:07.399
<v Speaker 1>was a TikToker man. I forget what state he was in,

1226
01:24:08.079 --> 01:24:11.399
<v Speaker 1>but he was showing a bug, a mechanical bug like

1227
01:24:11.479 --> 01:24:14.720
<v Speaker 1>you were describing and saying that this thing, yeah he

1228
01:24:15.079 --> 01:24:17.680
<v Speaker 1>had I guess it buzzed him and somehow he got

1229
01:24:17.720 --> 01:24:20.039
<v Speaker 1>a hold of it and he was showing it off.

1230
01:24:20.119 --> 01:24:23.000
<v Speaker 1>And who knows if it's really real. I mean, it

1231
01:24:23.079 --> 01:24:25.840
<v Speaker 1>could be something he just put together and is you know,

1232
01:24:26.399 --> 01:24:30.199
<v Speaker 1>making this stuff up. But it looked, it looks interesting

1233
01:24:30.600 --> 01:24:32.640
<v Speaker 1>and we were in touch for a bit. I haven't

1234
01:24:32.640 --> 01:24:35.760
<v Speaker 1>been on on TikTok much, but uh, yeah, there's a

1235
01:24:35.800 --> 01:24:38.119
<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff going on over on that platform too.

1236
01:24:38.199 --> 01:24:42.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, on every platform there's there's the you know,

1237
01:24:42.800 --> 01:24:45.640
<v Speaker 1>you gotta weigh the stuff out, and then TikTok is

1238
01:24:45.720 --> 01:24:47.640
<v Speaker 1>one of them. But there is some good stuff going

1239
01:24:47.680 --> 01:24:51.039
<v Speaker 1>on over there too, So yeah, I definitely want to

1240
01:24:51.079 --> 01:24:53.039
<v Speaker 1>get back in touch with that guy and see if

1241
01:24:53.079 --> 01:24:56.560
<v Speaker 1>he's gotten any recent information on those things.

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01:24:57.560 --> 01:24:59.680
<v Speaker 2>No, have you ever heard anything about giant and.

1243
01:25:02.520 --> 01:25:08.359
<v Speaker 1>Giant insects? No, not really. But what I have heard

1244
01:25:08.800 --> 01:25:11.800
<v Speaker 1>of keeping on this topic is that possibly some of

1245
01:25:11.880 --> 01:25:19.359
<v Speaker 1>these aerial anomalies could be actual beings themselves, So like

1246
01:25:19.479 --> 01:25:21.960
<v Speaker 1>these things that we're seeing in the sky could be

1247
01:25:22.079 --> 01:25:24.079
<v Speaker 1>actual creatures themselves.

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01:25:24.359 --> 01:25:27.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I heard that theory. Well, the reason I asked.

1249
01:25:27.359 --> 01:25:31.039
<v Speaker 2>When I lived briefly in Vancouver, Washington, had a roommate

1250
01:25:31.119 --> 01:25:34.279
<v Speaker 2>that went outside to smoke one time about it was

1251
01:25:34.279 --> 01:25:36.520
<v Speaker 2>about two or three o'clock in the morning. She was

1252
01:25:36.560 --> 01:25:40.159
<v Speaker 2>out on the porch having her cigarette and something moved

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01:25:40.199 --> 01:25:42.840
<v Speaker 2>between her and the street light. And she looked and

1254
01:25:42.960 --> 01:25:45.840
<v Speaker 2>she said, and she was smoking a regular cigarette, nothing

1255
01:25:45.880 --> 01:25:50.600
<v Speaker 2>funny there. She said that there was a praying mantis

1256
01:25:51.239 --> 01:25:53.119
<v Speaker 2>that was as tall as the street light and it

1257
01:25:53.239 --> 01:25:56.000
<v Speaker 2>was blocking the light out. And she said it was

1258
01:25:56.079 --> 01:25:57.920
<v Speaker 2>the scariest looking thing she'd ever say. You know, if

1259
01:25:57.920 --> 01:25:59.920
<v Speaker 2>you look at praying man it's they're kind of weird

1260
01:26:00.039 --> 01:26:02.239
<v Speaker 2>look anyway. But she said this thing had to be

1261
01:26:02.399 --> 01:26:05.840
<v Speaker 2>like ten twelve feet tall. Whatever the street light was there.

1262
01:26:06.239 --> 01:26:09.199
<v Speaker 2>She ran into the house to get the camera, and

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01:26:09.279 --> 01:26:11.239
<v Speaker 2>of course when she came back out, it was gone.

1264
01:26:12.000 --> 01:26:15.920
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know, that's weird. That would scare the

1265
01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:18.439
<v Speaker 2>pants off me if I saw it. Oh yeah, Raham

1266
01:26:18.479 --> 01:26:22.119
<v Speaker 2>manis or spider. There's a guy I know in East Tennessee,

1267
01:26:22.199 --> 01:26:25.520
<v Speaker 2>up in the Northern Timpa, East Tennessee a place called

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01:26:25.600 --> 01:26:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Roan Mountain where they've seen a fireball and there's all

1269
01:26:29.079 --> 01:26:31.279
<v Speaker 2>kinds of hauntings and stuff up there. He told me

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01:26:31.359 --> 01:26:34.439
<v Speaker 2>he could take me to a cave where there resides

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01:26:34.520 --> 01:26:37.159
<v Speaker 2>a spider as big as a house cat. He said,

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01:26:37.199 --> 01:26:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm talking about the body of the spider as

1273
01:26:39.960 --> 01:26:42.760
<v Speaker 2>big as his cat. That's not counting the legs and stuff.

1274
01:26:42.800 --> 01:26:44.880
<v Speaker 2>And I took a hard pass on that one. I

1275
01:26:44.920 --> 01:26:47.680
<v Speaker 2>don't like spiders, and I especially don't want to come

1276
01:26:47.720 --> 01:26:49.960
<v Speaker 2>across one as big as a cat in a cave.

1277
01:26:51.239 --> 01:26:58.479
<v Speaker 1>Yikes. Yeah, no, yep, But the man did. It's a thing,

1278
01:26:58.680 --> 01:27:02.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, we've gotten into some of these

1279
01:27:02.920 --> 01:27:08.199
<v Speaker 1>different genres and stuff of cryptids and aliens and the

1280
01:27:08.439 --> 01:27:11.479
<v Speaker 1>de manted it does come up, you know, the insectoid

1281
01:27:11.640 --> 01:27:16.880
<v Speaker 1>type of ets that come in different sizes, and possibly

1282
01:27:17.000 --> 01:27:20.279
<v Speaker 1>even the grays being some sort of type of insect light,

1283
01:27:21.880 --> 01:27:26.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, being it's possible. I think it's it's who knows,

1284
01:27:26.600 --> 01:27:32.199
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, definitely creepy. And yeah, there's something about these

1285
01:27:32.359 --> 01:27:36.279
<v Speaker 1>ets and and the way to describe sometimes a lot

1286
01:27:36.359 --> 01:27:40.000
<v Speaker 1>of them will get referred to like insects and stuff

1287
01:27:40.119 --> 01:27:42.239
<v Speaker 1>like that. It is very bizarre.

1288
01:27:44.680 --> 01:27:48.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that makes you wonder. The weirdest thing I've had

1289
01:27:48.159 --> 01:27:50.319
<v Speaker 2>happened recently. It's been a couple of years ago now.

1290
01:27:50.359 --> 01:27:52.159
<v Speaker 2>It's when I was living in the Hetas in New

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01:27:52.239 --> 01:27:55.279
<v Speaker 2>Mexico and there was a kind of flap going on

1292
01:27:55.920 --> 01:27:59.479
<v Speaker 2>about these Chinese weather balloons that they were seeing everywhere

1293
01:27:59.520 --> 01:28:05.119
<v Speaker 2>in coast to coast. Well, I had this garden shed

1294
01:28:05.199 --> 01:28:07.199
<v Speaker 2>out back, but what it was it was an aluminum

1295
01:28:07.319 --> 01:28:10.720
<v Speaker 2>frame with like a tarp material stretched over it in

1296
01:28:10.840 --> 01:28:14.279
<v Speaker 2>the shape of a greenhouse. And I went out there

1297
01:28:14.319 --> 01:28:16.399
<v Speaker 2>one morning and it was gone. It was just gone

1298
01:28:16.479 --> 01:28:20.479
<v Speaker 2>out of the backyard. I went around in a couple

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01:28:20.600 --> 01:28:22.760
<v Speaker 2>mile radius with a friend of mine looking for it.

1300
01:28:23.279 --> 01:28:27.119
<v Speaker 2>I looked in in all the neighbor's backyards and even

1301
01:28:27.319 --> 01:28:29.319
<v Speaker 2>went down by the river and then looked down there.

1302
01:28:29.359 --> 01:28:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Of course, that it had gotten in the river, I

1303
01:28:30.640 --> 01:28:33.680
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have found it anyway. Well, a week to the

1304
01:28:33.800 --> 01:28:38.640
<v Speaker 2>day later, I got up, went outside my garden. Shed

1305
01:28:38.800 --> 01:28:42.520
<v Speaker 2>is back, but the back end of it is caught

1306
01:28:42.640 --> 01:28:47.920
<v Speaker 2>in a tree, and I don't even know how to

1307
01:28:47.960 --> 01:28:50.600
<v Speaker 2>discover it. I've got pictures of it. And I was

1308
01:28:50.680 --> 01:28:52.720
<v Speaker 2>out there trying to get to the rear of it

1309
01:28:53.239 --> 01:28:56.840
<v Speaker 2>down out of the tree, and the neighbors over the

1310
01:28:56.920 --> 01:28:59.560
<v Speaker 2>backside of the fence there. Their granddaughter was vis and

1311
01:28:59.680 --> 01:29:02.199
<v Speaker 2>she was so I said, eight years old. Itnch pops

1312
01:29:02.239 --> 01:29:05.520
<v Speaker 2>her head up over the fence and I said, did

1313
01:29:05.680 --> 01:29:09.000
<v Speaker 2>this come out of your backyard? Did you see what happened?

1314
01:29:09.479 --> 01:29:12.199
<v Speaker 2>She's pointed up and said it came from up there.

1315
01:29:13.039 --> 01:29:15.199
<v Speaker 2>And there was some other little kids there playing with her,

1316
01:29:15.199 --> 01:29:17.439
<v Speaker 2>and they agreed they had watched it fall out of

1317
01:29:17.479 --> 01:29:20.159
<v Speaker 2>the sky. They said it was just like looked real tiny.

1318
01:29:20.239 --> 01:29:22.920
<v Speaker 2>They saw something in the sky and it came down

1319
01:29:23.960 --> 01:29:26.840
<v Speaker 2>almost in the footprint of where it had sat, except

1320
01:29:26.880 --> 01:29:28.520
<v Speaker 2>for the rear end of it. They got caught in

1321
01:29:28.600 --> 01:29:32.199
<v Speaker 2>the tree and the top of it was blown out.

1322
01:29:32.239 --> 01:29:34.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean there was a hole in it. And I

1323
01:29:34.560 --> 01:29:37.199
<v Speaker 2>was wondering if like the wind took it up and

1324
01:29:37.920 --> 01:29:40.199
<v Speaker 2>maybe a fighter jet or something shot it down. And

1325
01:29:40.279 --> 01:29:44.520
<v Speaker 2>then my other neighbors said, you need to paint. Take

1326
01:29:44.560 --> 01:29:46.800
<v Speaker 2>a can of spray paint and paint not a Chinese

1327
01:29:46.880 --> 01:29:48.720
<v Speaker 2>weather balloon on the side of it, so if it

1328
01:29:48.840 --> 01:29:51.359
<v Speaker 2>takes off again, they won't shoot it down. But that's

1329
01:29:51.439 --> 01:29:53.600
<v Speaker 2>one of the most mysterious things that's ever happened to

1330
01:29:53.640 --> 01:29:55.680
<v Speaker 2>me like that. I mean, for something to be gone

1331
01:29:55.680 --> 01:29:58.239
<v Speaker 2>a week and then end up, like I said, almost

1332
01:29:58.359 --> 01:30:00.680
<v Speaker 2>exactly where it was sitting, except the back end of

1333
01:30:00.760 --> 01:30:04.039
<v Speaker 2>what that was caught in a tree branch. Uh, just

1334
01:30:04.159 --> 01:30:06.920
<v Speaker 2>bottles of mind. But I think I wish I'd had

1335
01:30:07.000 --> 01:30:09.880
<v Speaker 2>a go pro attached to that brown door. Wouldn't that

1336
01:30:09.960 --> 01:30:11.319
<v Speaker 2>have been some amazing footage?

1337
01:30:11.720 --> 01:30:12.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh man?

1338
01:30:12.439 --> 01:30:15.800
<v Speaker 2>Not us see what took this thing up and how

1339
01:30:16.079 --> 01:30:18.279
<v Speaker 2>what shot it and got it back down or why

1340
01:30:18.319 --> 01:30:19.279
<v Speaker 2>there was a big hole in it.

1341
01:30:19.760 --> 01:30:25.640
<v Speaker 1>That is weird. That is a trip, but a true story,

1342
01:30:27.279 --> 01:30:31.119
<v Speaker 1>I believe you believe. Oh man, No, that that's one

1343
01:30:31.199 --> 01:30:32.319
<v Speaker 1>for the books for sure.

1344
01:30:35.920 --> 01:30:38.720
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever had anything happen like that? Anything, uh,

1345
01:30:39.279 --> 01:30:42.880
<v Speaker 2>airport or teleport or now I know I've seen some

1346
01:30:43.079 --> 01:30:45.239
<v Speaker 2>lights in the sky and things that did that just

1347
01:30:45.560 --> 01:30:49.439
<v Speaker 2>kind of be there and then not be there. And uh,

1348
01:30:50.079 --> 01:30:54.199
<v Speaker 2>I've seen the famous Brown Mountain lights in Brown Mountain,

1349
01:30:54.239 --> 01:30:56.760
<v Speaker 2>North Carolina. That was very interesting. Have you ever seen

1350
01:30:56.760 --> 01:30:59.279
<v Speaker 2>any of those aero phenomena like that. Some people try

1351
01:30:59.319 --> 01:31:03.960
<v Speaker 2>to say it's reflections or swamp gas or that other,

1352
01:31:04.039 --> 01:31:07.960
<v Speaker 2>but until you've seen it and experienced it, and even

1353
01:31:08.039 --> 01:31:11.520
<v Speaker 2>then it defies any explanation. But it's obviously not a reflection.

1354
01:31:12.319 --> 01:31:15.279
<v Speaker 2>It's obviously not you know, some kind of swamp gas

1355
01:31:15.399 --> 01:31:19.279
<v Speaker 2>or pisio electric activity or something like that. They moved

1356
01:31:19.359 --> 01:31:25.000
<v Speaker 2>with some intelligence, either self contained or something intelligent is

1357
01:31:25.079 --> 01:31:27.600
<v Speaker 2>controlling them. First time I saw them, I was on

1358
01:31:27.680 --> 01:31:30.840
<v Speaker 2>the other side of Wiseman's Gorge and I thought it

1359
01:31:30.920 --> 01:31:33.600
<v Speaker 2>looked like somebody with a light running around in the

1360
01:31:33.960 --> 01:31:37.680
<v Speaker 2>trees over there, And I thought, ah, that's just silly looking.

1361
01:31:38.439 --> 01:31:42.680
<v Speaker 2>And I ended up spending the night little camping here there,

1362
01:31:42.840 --> 01:31:47.159
<v Speaker 2>and the next morning I could see across the gorge

1363
01:31:47.199 --> 01:31:49.720
<v Speaker 2>there and the place where I saw the lights among

1364
01:31:49.800 --> 01:31:51.880
<v Speaker 2>the trees, it was like sheer cliff bases. There was

1365
01:31:51.960 --> 01:31:54.960
<v Speaker 2>no way anybody could run around in those trees. Those

1366
01:31:55.000 --> 01:31:57.039
<v Speaker 2>trees were growing on little ledges or there were just

1367
01:31:57.279 --> 01:31:59.520
<v Speaker 2>enough room for the tree. Never seen any of those

1368
01:31:59.720 --> 01:32:01.279
<v Speaker 2>miss lights or spoke lights.

1369
01:32:01.720 --> 01:32:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Yep, that's exactly the types of lights that I was

1370
01:32:05.840 --> 01:32:08.880
<v Speaker 1>mentioning earlier that we were having up in northern California

1371
01:32:08.920 --> 01:32:13.119
<v Speaker 1>on the property. So these the property. We're up in

1372
01:32:13.119 --> 01:32:17.359
<v Speaker 1>the hills of southern Humble, right right near where this

1373
01:32:17.680 --> 01:32:21.720
<v Speaker 1>Netflix documentary called You might have to leap this out,

1374
01:32:21.800 --> 01:32:24.840
<v Speaker 1>but Murder Mountain, Okay, that's that's a whole other show

1375
01:32:24.920 --> 01:32:27.319
<v Speaker 1>there too, Steve, whenever you want, but you can.

1376
01:32:27.239 --> 01:32:31.079
<v Speaker 2>Say whatever you want on here. But yeah, I've spent

1377
01:32:31.199 --> 01:32:34.279
<v Speaker 2>some time up there when I was I was living

1378
01:32:34.319 --> 01:32:37.399
<v Speaker 2>in Oregon. I'm driven down to San Francisco, stopped at

1379
01:32:37.439 --> 01:32:39.439
<v Speaker 2>Mount Shasta for a couple of days, and then came

1380
01:32:39.560 --> 01:32:42.399
<v Speaker 2>back up that way through you know where the legend

1381
01:32:42.479 --> 01:32:48.399
<v Speaker 2>of Bigfoot. Yep, there the Golden toilet. What else is

1382
01:32:48.479 --> 01:32:50.119
<v Speaker 2>in that area? You know where I'm talking about.

1383
01:32:50.279 --> 01:32:53.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's the Northern Mendocinos. So you keep going

1384
01:32:54.199 --> 01:32:56.479
<v Speaker 1>north on one on one there, and I know exactly

1385
01:32:56.600 --> 01:33:00.479
<v Speaker 1>that toilet and the legend of big Foot, that that

1386
01:33:00.960 --> 01:33:04.920
<v Speaker 1>little area. I've gotten report sightings from there actually, And

1387
01:33:05.520 --> 01:33:07.319
<v Speaker 1>so you keep going north and then you'll hit the

1388
01:33:08.399 --> 01:33:12.479
<v Speaker 1>eventually the town of Small town of Garberville and up

1389
01:33:12.560 --> 01:33:16.239
<v Speaker 1>in the hills of Garberville is eventually you'll hit the

1390
01:33:16.319 --> 01:33:19.640
<v Speaker 1>town alder Point and that's where the Murder Mountain is

1391
01:33:19.680 --> 01:33:23.159
<v Speaker 1>based out of anyway, we're a few hills over basically

1392
01:33:23.239 --> 01:33:29.560
<v Speaker 1>in that community though, and the property was forty acres,

1393
01:33:29.640 --> 01:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>so we had forty acres there and are sorry nearest

1394
01:33:32.920 --> 01:33:34.840
<v Speaker 1>neighbors were all spread about.

1395
01:33:35.079 --> 01:33:35.439
<v Speaker 4>And this.

1396
01:33:37.000 --> 01:33:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Community there, we were in a in a gated community,

1397
01:33:40.079 --> 01:33:42.760
<v Speaker 1>so you needed a pass code to get in. And

1398
01:33:42.880 --> 01:33:47.680
<v Speaker 1>it's dirt roads, like I said, pretty pretty heavily forested.

1399
01:33:49.000 --> 01:33:52.479
<v Speaker 1>And I've had some strange things happen there pertaining to Bigfoot.

1400
01:33:52.560 --> 01:33:54.720
<v Speaker 1>And once again another show, So we're gonna have some

1401
01:33:55.439 --> 01:33:56.680
<v Speaker 1>more shows here. See.

1402
01:33:57.560 --> 01:34:01.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, have you ever been up to Mount Shasta? Oh yeah, yeah,

1403
01:34:01.560 --> 01:34:04.520
<v Speaker 2>I'd like to, and again that's another show for sure,

1404
01:34:04.840 --> 01:34:07.079
<v Speaker 2>but I'd love to hear about some of your experiences there.

1405
01:34:07.079 --> 01:34:10.119
<v Speaker 2>I had some strange things happen up there, and Shasta

1406
01:34:10.199 --> 01:34:12.600
<v Speaker 2>is just one of those places. It's a vortex or

1407
01:34:12.640 --> 01:34:15.640
<v Speaker 2>an energy spot, power spot. I've heard people say it's

1408
01:34:15.800 --> 01:34:21.960
<v Speaker 2>like an international UFO landing zone there, the international flight

1409
01:34:22.560 --> 01:34:23.840
<v Speaker 2>deck for UFOs.

1410
01:34:24.359 --> 01:34:27.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, no, you've done quite quite a bit. I'd

1411
01:34:27.399 --> 01:34:31.399
<v Speaker 1>love your series on the Shasta legends and stuff you

1412
01:34:31.600 --> 01:34:33.119
<v Speaker 1>really love, and.

1413
01:34:33.199 --> 01:34:35.600
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to go back up there too. My wife's

1414
01:34:35.680 --> 01:34:39.439
<v Speaker 2>never been out west, and maybe when our son's a

1415
01:34:39.479 --> 01:34:41.520
<v Speaker 2>little bit bigger, we'll have to take that trip. But

1416
01:34:41.800 --> 01:34:44.079
<v Speaker 2>I love Shasta and that whole area.

1417
01:34:44.600 --> 01:34:47.199
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Stephen, if you do, if and when you do

1418
01:34:47.319 --> 01:34:49.079
<v Speaker 1>come out, please let me know because I'd love to

1419
01:34:49.159 --> 01:34:51.000
<v Speaker 1>go there with you. That that'd be epic.

1420
01:34:51.359 --> 01:34:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that'd be great. And I've already got plans to

1421
01:34:53.920 --> 01:34:58.239
<v Speaker 2>buy them a skateboard from your shop too, especially if

1422
01:34:58.279 --> 01:35:01.760
<v Speaker 2>you have like some of the from Meyer I used

1423
01:35:01.800 --> 01:35:05.399
<v Speaker 2>to ride, like the pool boards, the pig boards. Yeah,

1424
01:35:05.840 --> 01:35:09.520
<v Speaker 2>set them up with an Alba deck with Andy trucks.

1425
01:35:09.560 --> 01:35:11.800
<v Speaker 2>And do they still make Kryptonic s wheels? That's how

1426
01:35:11.880 --> 01:35:13.399
<v Speaker 2>far I've been out of it. I don't know what.

1427
01:35:13.720 --> 01:35:16.560
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen them. I know the Kryptonic wheels, and

1428
01:35:16.960 --> 01:35:20.199
<v Speaker 1>I remember you telling me a little bit of your

1429
01:35:20.279 --> 01:35:24.000
<v Speaker 1>skateboarding history too, which is really cool. But yeah, no,

1430
01:35:24.199 --> 01:35:26.840
<v Speaker 1>we have some of those old cool type boards and

1431
01:35:27.119 --> 01:35:30.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, different types of boards, small ones, longboards and

1432
01:35:30.560 --> 01:35:36.239
<v Speaker 1>different types. So we'll definitely hook you up. But yeah,

1433
01:35:36.479 --> 01:35:38.840
<v Speaker 1>back to those lights on the property is very much

1434
01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:42.920
<v Speaker 1>like the brown mountain lights. Like you're describing these things.

1435
01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:46.079
<v Speaker 1>I would see these things float through the woods. I've

1436
01:35:46.199 --> 01:35:49.319
<v Speaker 1>seen them on the ground shoot up into the sky

1437
01:35:49.600 --> 01:35:52.680
<v Speaker 1>and vice versa. I've seen them drop out of the sky.

1438
01:35:52.880 --> 01:35:57.279
<v Speaker 1>They'll look like stars sometimes. And these things will also

1439
01:35:57.479 --> 01:36:02.880
<v Speaker 1>like pulsate and dim out out, disappear, reappear, And it

1440
01:36:02.960 --> 01:36:04.920
<v Speaker 1>looks like at first when I first seen them, I

1441
01:36:04.960 --> 01:36:08.680
<v Speaker 1>thought it was somebody on the property with the headlamp

1442
01:36:08.840 --> 01:36:12.239
<v Speaker 1>or something, and they were moving around. And because these

1443
01:36:12.279 --> 01:36:14.960
<v Speaker 1>things tend to almost like I like to describe it

1444
01:36:15.079 --> 01:36:17.720
<v Speaker 1>as like a if you were to put some wind

1445
01:36:18.159 --> 01:36:20.560
<v Speaker 1>under a whiffle ball, it always has it has this

1446
01:36:20.760 --> 01:36:24.079
<v Speaker 1>like weird, almost like dancing type movement.

1447
01:36:23.800 --> 01:36:27.359
<v Speaker 2>To it, and exactly kind of bobbles along. It doesn't

1448
01:36:27.359 --> 01:36:30.680
<v Speaker 2>follow up straight path. It just kind of like you said,

1449
01:36:31.039 --> 01:36:35.199
<v Speaker 2>like a whiffle ball, and it was kind of slow,

1450
01:36:35.279 --> 01:36:37.720
<v Speaker 2>but there's curves, there's little nuances to it.

1451
01:36:38.960 --> 01:36:42.039
<v Speaker 1>And I've seen these things like most of the time

1452
01:36:42.119 --> 01:36:46.319
<v Speaker 1>and has this blue like star white color to it,

1453
01:36:46.840 --> 01:36:51.880
<v Speaker 1>but I've seen it change multiple colors too. I describe

1454
01:36:51.920 --> 01:36:54.159
<v Speaker 1>it as like when you get the flower power and

1455
01:36:54.359 --> 01:36:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Mario brothers and you start changing all those psychedelic colors.

1456
01:36:58.960 --> 01:36:59.760
<v Speaker 2>Good analogy.

1457
01:37:00.640 --> 01:37:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so these things were popping up almost on

1458
01:37:05.119 --> 01:37:09.880
<v Speaker 1>the nightly basis, and I began documenting these things, and

1459
01:37:11.239 --> 01:37:13.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times I would be on my own

1460
01:37:13.079 --> 01:37:16.079
<v Speaker 1>out there too. I'd be by myself and in the

1461
01:37:16.159 --> 01:37:18.960
<v Speaker 1>woods in these lights, and it would get a little

1462
01:37:19.000 --> 01:37:21.560
<v Speaker 1>creepy sometimes because I was very much familiar with the

1463
01:37:22.319 --> 01:37:25.399
<v Speaker 1>Missing four eleven phenomenon at the time and the people

1464
01:37:25.520 --> 01:37:28.039
<v Speaker 1>going missing and stuff, and I'm like, well, what if

1465
01:37:28.119 --> 01:37:30.840
<v Speaker 1>these things are one of the things that are causing this?

1466
01:37:31.680 --> 01:37:34.439
<v Speaker 1>And so I would take my little breaks from recording,

1467
01:37:34.520 --> 01:37:37.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, because I almost felt like this telepathic connection

1468
01:37:38.039 --> 01:37:39.960
<v Speaker 1>to it. I'm not I'm not saying I'm a telepath,

1469
01:37:40.079 --> 01:37:43.680
<v Speaker 1>but I would almost communicate with this stuff, you know.

1470
01:37:43.800 --> 01:37:46.199
<v Speaker 1>It was almost like I would ask it questions and

1471
01:37:47.239 --> 01:37:50.960
<v Speaker 1>and but I'd never had anything negative happen to me.

1472
01:37:51.039 --> 01:37:53.239
<v Speaker 1>I've heard of people like, you know, they say don't

1473
01:37:53.279 --> 01:37:57.880
<v Speaker 1>follow those things and that their spirits, and I've heard different,

1474
01:37:58.000 --> 01:38:04.760
<v Speaker 1>many different theories about it. But there's also the topic

1475
01:38:04.840 --> 01:38:10.239
<v Speaker 1>of Bigfoot coming up along these strange lights, which really

1476
01:38:10.359 --> 01:38:13.840
<v Speaker 1>made me get into the whole Bigfoot topic. Even deeper

1477
01:38:13.920 --> 01:38:16.840
<v Speaker 1>than I was at the moment, because I was having

1478
01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:23.159
<v Speaker 1>other strange activity like trees breaking and wood knocking sound

1479
01:38:23.199 --> 01:38:26.439
<v Speaker 1>stuff that people pertained the Bigfoot, along with these lights

1480
01:38:26.520 --> 01:38:30.319
<v Speaker 1>on the property. So yeah, yeah, very very strange stuff.

1481
01:38:30.479 --> 01:38:32.960
<v Speaker 1>And there was one time where it seemed like a

1482
01:38:33.079 --> 01:38:36.039
<v Speaker 1>bunch of them landed on the property, but this time

1483
01:38:36.159 --> 01:38:40.239
<v Speaker 1>they were orange, and it just looked like almost like

1484
01:38:40.319 --> 01:38:42.680
<v Speaker 1>a fire on the ground. And I remember waking up.

1485
01:38:43.359 --> 01:38:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Something had woke me up out of my sleep, and

1486
01:38:45.800 --> 01:38:48.680
<v Speaker 1>it's like three in the morning, and for some reason,

1487
01:38:49.520 --> 01:38:54.439
<v Speaker 1>I looked outside, because I would look out odd times

1488
01:38:54.479 --> 01:38:57.800
<v Speaker 1>at the night and I would spot these these lights

1489
01:38:58.119 --> 01:39:00.680
<v Speaker 1>and then you know, I would start recording them. And

1490
01:39:00.880 --> 01:39:04.479
<v Speaker 1>so this time I was sleeping, I suddenly woke up

1491
01:39:04.560 --> 01:39:07.800
<v Speaker 1>because of something. Something woke me up, and I look

1492
01:39:07.840 --> 01:39:11.840
<v Speaker 1>out the window and I noticed this cluster of orange

1493
01:39:12.199 --> 01:39:16.560
<v Speaker 1>on the ground way down below. Like it was weird

1494
01:39:16.640 --> 01:39:18.720
<v Speaker 1>the way the house was set up, but we had

1495
01:39:18.800 --> 01:39:22.520
<v Speaker 1>this lower tier of the property, and way down at

1496
01:39:22.560 --> 01:39:25.560
<v Speaker 1>the lower tiers where this activity was happening, it looked

1497
01:39:25.600 --> 01:39:28.239
<v Speaker 1>like a fire. And like up there, when you if

1498
01:39:28.319 --> 01:39:31.520
<v Speaker 1>you see fire smoke, you better get on it, you know,

1499
01:39:31.600 --> 01:39:34.079
<v Speaker 1>because you know you know how the fires up are

1500
01:39:34.199 --> 01:39:38.840
<v Speaker 1>up that way, and so yeah, I recorded this thing

1501
01:39:39.079 --> 01:39:42.119
<v Speaker 1>and it just looked like a mass of these like

1502
01:39:42.520 --> 01:39:46.359
<v Speaker 1>orbs and it was the oddest thing. And then my

1503
01:39:46.560 --> 01:39:50.039
<v Speaker 1>cat jumped on me and kind of ruined the recording there.

1504
01:39:50.119 --> 01:39:54.079
<v Speaker 1>But I did capture that, you know. So yeah, if

1505
01:39:54.119 --> 01:39:56.359
<v Speaker 1>anyone ever wants to check that particular video out, like

1506
01:39:56.399 --> 01:39:59.439
<v Speaker 1>I said, I've got so many different little videos posted

1507
01:39:59.520 --> 01:40:05.479
<v Speaker 1>that it. Everything's kind of I want to say, drowning

1508
01:40:05.560 --> 01:40:07.359
<v Speaker 1>in my channel there. You kind of got to dig

1509
01:40:07.439 --> 01:40:09.920
<v Speaker 1>for these things. But if someone in particular wants to

1510
01:40:09.960 --> 01:40:11.720
<v Speaker 1>look that up, they could always leave me a message

1511
01:40:11.720 --> 01:40:14.239
<v Speaker 1>and I could repost that in the community page. But

1512
01:40:14.640 --> 01:40:17.560
<v Speaker 1>like I said earlier, with the new gear and stuff,

1513
01:40:17.560 --> 01:40:19.680
<v Speaker 1>I want to be able to go through a lot

1514
01:40:19.760 --> 01:40:23.039
<v Speaker 1>of my videos and and kind of do these breakdowns

1515
01:40:23.479 --> 01:40:27.840
<v Speaker 1>live with people to see what else we could learn

1516
01:40:27.920 --> 01:40:28.279
<v Speaker 1>from all this.

1517
01:40:29.800 --> 01:40:34.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that'd be fascinating. Now, I've watched some of your

1518
01:40:34.479 --> 01:40:36.880
<v Speaker 2>videos there that you released. But do you also do

1519
01:40:37.079 --> 01:40:39.319
<v Speaker 2>occasional live streams and things like that as well.

1520
01:40:40.359 --> 01:40:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely. I try to go live as much as possible,

1521
01:40:43.760 --> 01:40:46.159
<v Speaker 1>especially if there's something happening at the moment. I mean

1522
01:40:46.239 --> 01:40:50.880
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you'll get random stuff, we car accidents outside the shop,

1523
01:40:52.680 --> 01:40:56.960
<v Speaker 1>SpaceX launches, you know, just anything that.

1524
01:40:57.000 --> 01:41:01.319
<v Speaker 2>I like, just whatever is going on moment. I love that.

1525
01:41:01.479 --> 01:41:04.119
<v Speaker 1>I love yeah, some raw real life.

1526
01:41:04.479 --> 01:41:08.560
<v Speaker 2>I think one time I just missed when you'd been

1527
01:41:08.640 --> 01:41:11.079
<v Speaker 2>live and I went to go in there and watch

1528
01:41:11.119 --> 01:41:13.720
<v Speaker 2>and it was just the replay. But it's still You've

1529
01:41:13.760 --> 01:41:17.800
<v Speaker 2>got just some cool stuff over there, just the UFO

1530
01:41:17.920 --> 01:41:22.199
<v Speaker 2>footage and things alone and UFO UAP whatever you want

1531
01:41:22.239 --> 01:41:24.720
<v Speaker 2>to call it. And then, speaking of that, what do

1532
01:41:24.840 --> 01:41:27.399
<v Speaker 2>you think the purpose was? I mean, there's been the

1533
01:41:27.520 --> 01:41:30.840
<v Speaker 2>UFOs since time memorial to me, and then all of

1534
01:41:30.880 --> 01:41:35.840
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, now it's UAPs. Any idea why the media,

1535
01:41:35.920 --> 01:41:38.680
<v Speaker 2>the powers that be, why for the sudden switch to

1536
01:41:39.319 --> 01:41:41.319
<v Speaker 2>from UFO to u A P. I think it's some

1537
01:41:41.479 --> 01:41:45.239
<v Speaker 2>kind of neural linguistic programming. What's your thoughts on that? Yeah?

1538
01:41:45.279 --> 01:41:49.119
<v Speaker 1>I believe so too. I also think, Yeah, with everything

1539
01:41:49.279 --> 01:41:53.199
<v Speaker 1>happening as of late, you know, do you have congressional hearings.

1540
01:41:52.840 --> 01:41:53.079
<v Speaker 4>You have.

1541
01:41:55.199 --> 01:41:59.079
<v Speaker 1>Whistleblowers and all this stuff happening, I feel like they

1542
01:41:59.439 --> 01:42:02.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe want to stir things up more for people confused,

1543
01:42:02.800 --> 01:42:05.199
<v Speaker 1>because people are already confused. We don't know what the

1544
01:42:05.279 --> 01:42:08.279
<v Speaker 1>heck's going on? People are out there claiming they know

1545
01:42:08.600 --> 01:42:13.920
<v Speaker 1>and and and this is its real a confusing thing.

1546
01:42:14.199 --> 01:42:16.520
<v Speaker 1>And I think to stir things up even more, they're

1547
01:42:16.520 --> 01:42:20.479
<v Speaker 1>gonna throw some more letters and acronyms and all that

1548
01:42:20.800 --> 01:42:22.560
<v Speaker 1>to just confuse people even more.

1549
01:42:22.720 --> 01:42:23.960
<v Speaker 2>There's more alphabet soup.

1550
01:42:24.479 --> 01:42:25.600
<v Speaker 6>Yeah and uh.

1551
01:42:25.720 --> 01:42:29.479
<v Speaker 1>And I do believe there is a difference between UFOs.

1552
01:42:29.960 --> 01:42:32.520
<v Speaker 1>I believe in the traditional I like to still call

1553
01:42:32.560 --> 01:42:36.199
<v Speaker 1>them UFOs, which I believe might be you know, those

1554
01:42:36.279 --> 01:42:39.039
<v Speaker 1>are e T you know, unknown.

1555
01:42:40.159 --> 01:42:44.079
<v Speaker 2>Non human, the flying saucer type, so you call them

1556
01:42:44.119 --> 01:42:45.159
<v Speaker 2>wa day.

1557
01:42:45.279 --> 01:42:50.199
<v Speaker 1>Right, and the UAP nowadays, which still could be.

1558
01:42:50.399 --> 01:42:50.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1559
01:42:50.600 --> 01:42:54.079
<v Speaker 1>I believe there's different types of weird anomalies and phenomenon

1560
01:42:54.159 --> 01:42:56.119
<v Speaker 1>and that could fall under that. But I think for

1561
01:42:56.239 --> 01:43:00.560
<v Speaker 1>the most part, they're using the UAP to describe made

1562
01:43:00.720 --> 01:43:07.960
<v Speaker 1>or hybrid craft man in et hybrid craft. So yeah,

1563
01:43:08.039 --> 01:43:11.039
<v Speaker 1>that's so. So when I hear UAP, that's in my mind,

1564
01:43:11.079 --> 01:43:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I think of man made or hybrid craft as to

1565
01:43:14.800 --> 01:43:19.960
<v Speaker 1>where UFO is more of a ET one hundred.

1566
01:43:20.159 --> 01:43:20.319
<v Speaker 4>You know.

1567
01:43:21.239 --> 01:43:24.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, somebody said, now I don't necessarily buy into this,

1568
01:43:24.560 --> 01:43:28.199
<v Speaker 2>that that was they were trying to different distance themselves

1569
01:43:28.720 --> 01:43:34.199
<v Speaker 2>from the typical UFO crowd. You know, there's some some

1570
01:43:34.359 --> 01:43:36.760
<v Speaker 2>wild people there. Let me tell you, you're talking about

1571
01:43:36.800 --> 01:43:39.840
<v Speaker 2>some of the strange people that you meet outside on

1572
01:43:40.000 --> 01:43:44.560
<v Speaker 2>the streets there in LA. There's some strange attendees at

1573
01:43:44.760 --> 01:43:48.800
<v Speaker 2>UFO conferences. There are some very very unusual people that

1574
01:43:48.920 --> 01:43:51.039
<v Speaker 2>I met at the one I spoke at in San Francisco.

1575
01:43:51.359 --> 01:43:54.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying they're bad people. They're just very, very different.

1576
01:43:54.800 --> 01:43:57.079
<v Speaker 2>They're definitely march to the beat of their own drum

1577
01:43:57.199 --> 01:43:59.920
<v Speaker 2>and kind of do their own thing. But there is

1578
01:44:00.600 --> 01:44:02.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're talking abductees and stuff.

1579
01:44:02.880 --> 01:44:03.119
<v Speaker 1>It was.

1580
01:44:03.359 --> 01:44:05.119
<v Speaker 2>It was a curious mix of people.

1581
01:44:06.119 --> 01:44:09.159
<v Speaker 1>I bet, especially being in San Francisco. That's you know,

1582
01:44:09.520 --> 01:44:12.199
<v Speaker 1>that's one once again, like LA one of those places

1583
01:44:12.239 --> 01:44:16.279
<v Speaker 1>where you know, you just have a melting pot of

1584
01:44:16.439 --> 01:44:19.279
<v Speaker 1>different types of people and and just a lot of

1585
01:44:19.399 --> 01:44:20.880
<v Speaker 1>bizarre stuff going on there.

1586
01:44:22.000 --> 01:44:25.479
<v Speaker 2>A lot of the Old World architecture there too. I

1587
01:44:25.560 --> 01:44:28.000
<v Speaker 2>think I mentioned it earlier, but the Palace for the

1588
01:44:28.119 --> 01:44:31.359
<v Speaker 2>Fine Art there, and uh, there's several places that I

1589
01:44:31.479 --> 01:44:32.119
<v Speaker 2>got to visit.

1590
01:44:32.840 --> 01:44:35.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And one thing I forgot to mention going back

1591
01:44:35.479 --> 01:44:38.520
<v Speaker 1>to the Old World stuff, is that looking into some

1592
01:44:38.640 --> 01:44:41.720
<v Speaker 1>of these buildings, I started finding out that a lot

1593
01:44:41.840 --> 01:44:46.800
<v Speaker 1>of scientology buildings are possibly Old World as well. And

1594
01:44:46.920 --> 01:44:48.640
<v Speaker 1>San Francisco has a beautiful one.

1595
01:44:49.039 --> 01:44:53.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And then also one of the lists I was

1596
01:44:53.560 --> 01:44:56.600
<v Speaker 2>looking at it had the Mormon Temple there in Utah

1597
01:44:56.800 --> 01:44:57.680
<v Speaker 2>as an example.

1598
01:44:58.560 --> 01:45:00.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow. Yeah, now that the surprise me.

1599
01:45:04.000 --> 01:45:07.640
<v Speaker 2>And everywhere. I mean, and it's not just in North America.

1600
01:45:07.720 --> 01:45:10.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean there's a list here that I found online

1601
01:45:10.479 --> 01:45:14.920
<v Speaker 2>all these different countries in continents and things. There's examples

1602
01:45:14.960 --> 01:45:18.680
<v Speaker 2>of it everywhere. And the more I look into it,

1603
01:45:18.760 --> 01:45:20.479
<v Speaker 2>the more I study about the things, the more I'm

1604
01:45:20.520 --> 01:45:23.560
<v Speaker 2>convinced that there's something to all of it. I don't

1605
01:45:23.640 --> 01:45:27.600
<v Speaker 2>think we have all the information yet to totally unravel it,

1606
01:45:27.720 --> 01:45:32.159
<v Speaker 2>but there's I don't know. Just like you were saying earlier,

1607
01:45:32.239 --> 01:45:34.479
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't feel right. There's a strange energy there, a

1608
01:45:34.600 --> 01:45:38.119
<v Speaker 2>dark energy. These places feel on it or maybe like

1609
01:45:38.199 --> 01:45:39.680
<v Speaker 2>a liminal space or something.

1610
01:45:41.079 --> 01:45:43.920
<v Speaker 1>And what one place I want to recommend too that

1611
01:45:44.039 --> 01:45:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I hear is fascinating in it, And just by the

1612
01:45:47.680 --> 01:45:50.720
<v Speaker 1>little bit that I've looked at that is full of

1613
01:45:51.239 --> 01:45:54.920
<v Speaker 1>some of this Old World stuff is Budapest. So check

1614
01:45:54.960 --> 01:45:56.119
<v Speaker 1>out Budapest, you guys.

1615
01:45:58.039 --> 01:46:00.359
<v Speaker 2>And one more thing I wanted to ask about. A

1616
01:46:00.439 --> 01:46:03.239
<v Speaker 2>couple of years ago, I made a video about this

1617
01:46:03.840 --> 01:46:07.479
<v Speaker 2>strange thing going on, called The Hiding Man of Griffith Park,

1618
01:46:08.000 --> 01:46:10.159
<v Speaker 2>and you actually went out there boots on the ground

1619
01:46:10.199 --> 01:46:13.199
<v Speaker 2>and looked around maybe more than once. Did you ever

1620
01:46:13.479 --> 01:46:15.880
<v Speaker 2>find anything or see any of those strange posters that

1621
01:46:16.000 --> 01:46:17.399
<v Speaker 2>are supposed to be up out there.

1622
01:46:17.960 --> 01:46:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm still looking for a couple of those posters

1623
01:46:20.680 --> 01:46:23.479
<v Speaker 1>for a Steve. But yeah, no, I was once again

1624
01:46:23.560 --> 01:46:28.720
<v Speaker 1>you went into this whole. Even your series on Griffith

1625
01:46:28.840 --> 01:46:32.399
<v Speaker 1>Park Lose Fellies was amazing.

1626
01:46:32.239 --> 01:46:36.159
<v Speaker 2>Kurts and hauntings and phantoms on horseback and then had

1627
01:46:36.239 --> 01:46:39.479
<v Speaker 2>the haunted picnic table there where the couple were, the

1628
01:46:39.600 --> 01:46:43.600
<v Speaker 2>amorous couple killed by following tree branch and stuff. There's

1629
01:46:43.840 --> 01:46:45.760
<v Speaker 2>a lot of stuff going on in Griffith Park. You

1630
01:46:45.840 --> 01:46:47.800
<v Speaker 2>got the old La Zoo out there. You got the

1631
01:46:47.840 --> 01:46:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Observatory that's the scene, and the Rebel without a Cause,

1632
01:46:54.119 --> 01:46:56.520
<v Speaker 2>the Back Cave, the original.

1633
01:46:56.159 --> 01:47:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Bat Cave yep and us.

1634
01:47:00.399 --> 01:47:03.560
<v Speaker 2>Is there, and the Andy Griffiths show where they're walking

1635
01:47:03.920 --> 01:47:06.399
<v Speaker 2>along going to the fishing hole or whatever that was

1636
01:47:06.800 --> 01:47:10.359
<v Speaker 2>built in Griffith Park. It has as a storied place

1637
01:47:10.479 --> 01:47:12.119
<v Speaker 2>with an incredible history.

1638
01:47:12.880 --> 01:47:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then so the hiding man thing came out

1639
01:47:15.840 --> 01:47:19.439
<v Speaker 1>and it's become an urban legend now and and but

1640
01:47:19.800 --> 01:47:22.800
<v Speaker 1>I do believe there's something to it because going back

1641
01:47:22.960 --> 01:47:27.199
<v Speaker 1>once again, these strange characters and people that you find

1642
01:47:27.319 --> 01:47:31.039
<v Speaker 1>here in this in the city, and so a lot

1643
01:47:31.119 --> 01:47:33.760
<v Speaker 1>of of the home you know, the homeless issue is

1644
01:47:34.039 --> 01:47:37.039
<v Speaker 1>a big thing out here, just like everywhere else. But

1645
01:47:37.399 --> 01:47:39.279
<v Speaker 1>it seems to be an epic senate here and they've

1646
01:47:39.319 --> 01:47:41.560
<v Speaker 1>been doing a lot of cleanups and stuff. But yeah,

1647
01:47:41.760 --> 01:47:45.039
<v Speaker 1>long Griffith Park, you have the La River and a

1648
01:47:45.159 --> 01:47:48.199
<v Speaker 1>lot of these people have been pushed out towards that way,

1649
01:47:49.560 --> 01:47:51.439
<v Speaker 1>and so with that you're gonna have all types of

1650
01:47:51.520 --> 01:47:57.920
<v Speaker 1>different uh activity going on. And one uh story that

1651
01:47:58.119 --> 01:48:01.039
<v Speaker 1>I came across my way was about this this hiding

1652
01:48:01.159 --> 01:48:05.479
<v Speaker 1>man and and yeah, that this guy was leaving these

1653
01:48:05.560 --> 01:48:10.960
<v Speaker 1>strange letters throughout the trailheads of the park and and

1654
01:48:11.039 --> 01:48:13.399
<v Speaker 1>they were very bizarre and some of them very detailed,

1655
01:48:13.479 --> 01:48:18.159
<v Speaker 1>talking about once again underground tunnels connecting from here we

1656
01:48:18.239 --> 01:48:22.960
<v Speaker 1>go again. You mentioned Burbank earlier, from Burbank to Griffith

1657
01:48:23.119 --> 01:48:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Park and that to be careful and that threatening. I

1658
01:48:27.680 --> 01:48:30.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know if they were threatening hikers or anyone ever

1659
01:48:30.880 --> 01:48:33.119
<v Speaker 1>got hurt or anything like that, but it was a

1660
01:48:33.319 --> 01:48:36.079
<v Speaker 1>big thing. A lot of hikers were on edge and

1661
01:48:36.199 --> 01:48:39.840
<v Speaker 1>people were on edge, and things have kind of calmed

1662
01:48:39.880 --> 01:48:43.159
<v Speaker 1>down there, you know. I haven't heard anything else as

1663
01:48:43.239 --> 01:48:47.359
<v Speaker 1>of late, but it's definitely something I want to go

1664
01:48:47.600 --> 01:48:52.159
<v Speaker 1>back to continue looking into because I do believe there's

1665
01:48:52.199 --> 01:48:56.199
<v Speaker 1>something going on there, especially because he had those descriptions

1666
01:48:56.279 --> 01:49:00.439
<v Speaker 1>of the underground tunnels and stuff, so I think there's

1667
01:49:00.479 --> 01:49:01.159
<v Speaker 1>something to that.

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01:49:02.319 --> 01:49:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's one of my favorite videos that I ever

1669
01:49:05.840 --> 01:49:09.479
<v Speaker 2>researched and made, and especially looking into the history of

1670
01:49:09.520 --> 01:49:12.159
<v Speaker 2>Griffith Park again the Los Fielas there and going back

1671
01:49:12.199 --> 01:49:14.720
<v Speaker 2>to all that. That's another one of those areas. It's

1672
01:49:14.840 --> 01:49:16.840
<v Speaker 2>just it feels different.

1673
01:49:18.239 --> 01:49:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah. And and there's actually there's a Merry goround

1674
01:49:22.159 --> 01:49:25.279
<v Speaker 1>in the backside of Griffith Park that people if you

1675
01:49:25.359 --> 01:49:27.800
<v Speaker 1>know Griffith Park, you know the Merry Grounds. Yeah, and

1676
01:49:27.960 --> 01:49:31.000
<v Speaker 1>there's it's something about that Merry Grounds. Who I believe

1677
01:49:31.079 --> 01:49:36.640
<v Speaker 1>it's haunted. But there's been several murders and suicides there lately,

1678
01:49:37.079 --> 01:49:39.960
<v Speaker 1>so I don't know what's been happening, what's up with

1679
01:49:40.039 --> 01:49:42.840
<v Speaker 1>that little area, But it's just as of late, there's

1680
01:49:42.920 --> 01:49:48.920
<v Speaker 1>been some really creepy murders and suicides. One was I

1681
01:49:49.079 --> 01:49:52.520
<v Speaker 1>believe a guy was found hung from a tree there

1682
01:49:52.680 --> 01:49:56.399
<v Speaker 1>and set on fire. And so it's like, yeah, what's

1683
01:49:56.479 --> 01:49:59.880
<v Speaker 1>happening here? Is is it, uh you know, just people

1684
01:50:00.119 --> 01:50:03.000
<v Speaker 1>doing this or is it something more sinister? You know,

1685
01:50:03.199 --> 01:50:08.920
<v Speaker 1>because all the other paranormal stuff comes to mind, and yeah,

1686
01:50:09.039 --> 01:50:10.680
<v Speaker 1>it's very very weird.

1687
01:50:12.720 --> 01:50:15.439
<v Speaker 2>Now have you ever been up to look at the

1688
01:50:15.800 --> 01:50:17.560
<v Speaker 2>Hollywood sign there on Mount Lee?

1689
01:50:18.319 --> 01:50:21.359
<v Speaker 1>You know what, I've never grown growing up in I

1690
01:50:21.560 --> 01:50:24.399
<v Speaker 1>never did that. I had a view from my window

1691
01:50:24.560 --> 01:50:28.359
<v Speaker 1>I could see the Hollywood letters because I was right

1692
01:50:28.520 --> 01:50:34.640
<v Speaker 1>off of Western Wilton Hollywood Boulevard in Sunseales, right, you know,

1693
01:50:34.880 --> 01:50:38.760
<v Speaker 1>right there. And come to find out, I grew up

1694
01:50:38.800 --> 01:50:44.000
<v Speaker 1>in the apartments next to where Bella Lugosi. Uh yeah,

1695
01:50:45.279 --> 01:50:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Bella Lugosi used to live back in the day. So

1696
01:50:48.119 --> 01:50:51.720
<v Speaker 1>that was interesting because the reason why I found out

1697
01:50:51.800 --> 01:50:55.199
<v Speaker 1>that it was there was this hearst that would come

1698
01:50:55.239 --> 01:51:01.399
<v Speaker 1>by our block and it would always stopped. Yeah, that's

1699
01:51:01.439 --> 01:51:03.960
<v Speaker 1>what it was that I never knew until recently, and

1700
01:51:04.039 --> 01:51:06.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, why why would they always stop here?

1701
01:51:07.119 --> 01:51:09.560
<v Speaker 1>And I found that someone someone had made a little

1702
01:51:09.680 --> 01:51:11.840
<v Speaker 1>video on it, and they're like, yeah, billah Lagosi used

1703
01:51:11.840 --> 01:51:13.039
<v Speaker 1>to live in this building.

1704
01:51:12.800 --> 01:51:18.039
<v Speaker 2>Here what back in the day. I've done that Dearly

1705
01:51:18.159 --> 01:51:22.399
<v Speaker 2>Departed tour a lot. And then the guy that ran

1706
01:51:22.479 --> 01:51:24.680
<v Speaker 2>the tour used to have a museum too, And I

1707
01:51:24.720 --> 01:51:26.960
<v Speaker 2>don't know if either one of the museum or the

1708
01:51:27.039 --> 01:51:30.079
<v Speaker 2>tour exists anymore, but it was. It was amazing.

1709
01:51:30.640 --> 01:51:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I believe it's it should be the Hollywood Death Museum.

1710
01:51:34.239 --> 01:51:38.279
<v Speaker 1>It probably is. Yeah, okay, wow.

1711
01:51:38.359 --> 01:51:41.199
<v Speaker 2>And just there's a lot of dark history out there too.

1712
01:51:41.239 --> 01:51:44.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, Peggett Whistle famously jumped off the h and

1713
01:51:44.640 --> 01:51:51.439
<v Speaker 2>the Hollywood Sign. And then I think there's a restaurant

1714
01:51:51.479 --> 01:51:54.399
<v Speaker 2>there called o Kyoto, I think it's the name of

1715
01:51:54.479 --> 01:52:01.680
<v Speaker 2>it that where oh the man's a murdered victim, Sharon Tate,

1716
01:52:01.800 --> 01:52:05.399
<v Speaker 2>where they have their last meal. I've eaten there before.

1717
01:52:05.439 --> 01:52:07.479
<v Speaker 2>It sat in the boat where they sat that night.

1718
01:52:07.560 --> 01:52:11.520
<v Speaker 2>And there's just so much out there. Oh yeah, the

1719
01:52:11.560 --> 01:52:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel and oh.

1720
01:52:14.640 --> 01:52:17.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I went to Hollywood High School right right, that's

1721
01:52:17.640 --> 01:52:19.720
<v Speaker 1>right across the street from the Roosevelt.

1722
01:52:20.199 --> 01:52:23.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Now, did you go to high school with anybody

1723
01:52:23.119 --> 01:52:25.439
<v Speaker 2>that went on to be famous? Yeah?

1724
01:52:25.560 --> 01:52:30.800
<v Speaker 1>There was one young singer, a black singer by the

1725
01:52:30.880 --> 01:52:34.680
<v Speaker 1>name of Brandy. I don't know if you remember Brandy, remember, Yeah,

1726
01:52:35.399 --> 01:52:37.600
<v Speaker 1>so she she went to school there while we did.

1727
01:52:37.840 --> 01:52:41.119
<v Speaker 1>And there was a couple other young singers also that

1728
01:52:42.880 --> 01:52:46.520
<v Speaker 1>were getting their name known. I forget their names, but yeah,

1729
01:52:46.560 --> 01:52:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I didn't see them any anything anytime after

1730
01:52:50.479 --> 01:52:53.159
<v Speaker 1>high school. But they were doing their thing during high school.

1731
01:52:53.960 --> 01:52:56.520
<v Speaker 1>But of course, you know, there's a bunch of old

1732
01:52:57.520 --> 01:53:01.239
<v Speaker 1>people that went there. Carol Burnett I could remember off

1733
01:53:01.319 --> 01:53:04.239
<v Speaker 1>the top. Who else. There's a few other people, but yeah,

1734
01:53:04.279 --> 01:53:06.560
<v Speaker 1>I remember going to school with Brandy, but on the

1735
01:53:06.720 --> 01:53:11.520
<v Speaker 1>opposite and uh Marshall High School, which is our rival

1736
01:53:11.600 --> 01:53:15.239
<v Speaker 1>to Hollywood High School. Well, I was going to high school.

1737
01:53:15.960 --> 01:53:20.439
<v Speaker 1>Leonardo DiCaprio was going to uh Marshall.

1738
01:53:20.119 --> 01:53:25.159
<v Speaker 2>High where Greece was filmed. I think maybe, oh I wouldn't.

1739
01:53:25.199 --> 01:53:28.279
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't doubt it. And you know what I was

1740
01:53:28.359 --> 01:53:30.840
<v Speaker 1>looking at even I think it was today. So I

1741
01:53:31.000 --> 01:53:34.119
<v Speaker 1>was seeing a video of Marshall High and it's a

1742
01:53:34.359 --> 01:53:38.079
<v Speaker 1>big old brick building. I'm sure it's an old worlder.

1743
01:53:40.239 --> 01:53:43.439
<v Speaker 2>And a lot of the schools and things I find

1744
01:53:43.640 --> 01:53:51.159
<v Speaker 2>said it was like schools cathedrals, libraries, theaters, and there's

1745
01:53:51.199 --> 01:53:54.079
<v Speaker 2>something to all this, buddy. We're gonna unravel it at

1746
01:53:54.159 --> 01:53:54.640
<v Speaker 2>some point.

1747
01:53:55.039 --> 01:53:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I think we're getting it in in in

1748
01:53:58.239 --> 01:54:02.560
<v Speaker 1>nice increments and and yeah, I just feel like just

1749
01:54:03.680 --> 01:54:06.520
<v Speaker 1>tapping into the right sources. You know, there's a lot

1750
01:54:06.560 --> 01:54:09.199
<v Speaker 1>of people doing a lot of good work, and yeah,

1751
01:54:09.680 --> 01:54:13.640
<v Speaker 1>it's just a matter of tapping in with them, supporting them,

1752
01:54:14.359 --> 01:54:19.279
<v Speaker 1>and you know, like you're doing helping me out here.

1753
01:54:19.520 --> 01:54:23.720
<v Speaker 1>I greatly appreciate that, and that's very motivating for me

1754
01:54:23.840 --> 01:54:26.279
<v Speaker 1>to get back out there. There's so much I want

1755
01:54:26.319 --> 01:54:28.960
<v Speaker 1>to do. And actually there's a few things I want

1756
01:54:29.000 --> 01:54:31.680
<v Speaker 1>to touch base with you with and I feel like

1757
01:54:32.479 --> 01:54:34.720
<v Speaker 1>maybe doing what I do and doing what you do,

1758
01:54:34.920 --> 01:54:39.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe we could put together something, okay, and yeah, it'd

1759
01:54:39.560 --> 01:54:41.479
<v Speaker 1>be cool maybe to present for people.

1760
01:54:42.159 --> 01:54:45.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd be interested in any kind of collaboration you

1761
01:54:45.199 --> 01:54:45.560
<v Speaker 2>can take.

1762
01:54:47.319 --> 01:54:51.600
<v Speaker 1>It sounds good. Yeah, And like I said, as of late,

1763
01:54:51.680 --> 01:54:56.359
<v Speaker 1>there there's several things I'm working on. We recently had

1764
01:54:56.439 --> 01:54:59.439
<v Speaker 1>gone up to the Angelus National Forest here and that's

1765
01:54:59.439 --> 01:55:02.840
<v Speaker 1>another are which is very close I mean to us,

1766
01:55:02.960 --> 01:55:08.520
<v Speaker 1>it's like twenty minutes from here, and it's once again

1767
01:55:08.600 --> 01:55:11.960
<v Speaker 1>right by JPL you know JPL and NASA. They're at

1768
01:55:12.000 --> 01:55:16.720
<v Speaker 1>the foothills of the Angelus San Gabriel Mountains here and

1769
01:55:16.880 --> 01:55:20.119
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of weird, creepy history there too, with

1770
01:55:20.239 --> 01:55:24.880
<v Speaker 1>the kids missing, a lot of missing people of course,

1771
01:55:25.239 --> 01:55:30.479
<v Speaker 1>strange lights and anomalies in the skies, and there's actually

1772
01:55:31.239 --> 01:55:34.119
<v Speaker 1>southern California has some bigfoot reports and some of them

1773
01:55:34.159 --> 01:55:36.840
<v Speaker 1>are out of here, out of the Angelus National Forest.

1774
01:55:36.880 --> 01:55:40.039
<v Speaker 1>So we went to go check out this area of

1775
01:55:40.199 --> 01:55:44.920
<v Speaker 1>a report from ninety five and we ended up camping

1776
01:55:45.000 --> 01:55:47.880
<v Speaker 1>overnight and I was with my nephew and brother and

1777
01:55:48.199 --> 01:55:52.680
<v Speaker 1>we captured something on the thermal camera. Steve. It's super

1778
01:55:52.800 --> 01:55:57.720
<v Speaker 1>interesting and it looks like possibly the target we're looking for.

1779
01:55:58.119 --> 01:55:59.399
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if you've seen that yet. I

1780
01:55:59.520 --> 01:56:02.800
<v Speaker 1>posted the video, but it's a subject and it's right

1781
01:56:03.279 --> 01:56:06.840
<v Speaker 1>near a tree, the base of a tree, very humanoid looking.

1782
01:56:07.640 --> 01:56:11.199
<v Speaker 1>And eventually my nephew is the one using the camera

1783
01:56:11.279 --> 01:56:14.359
<v Speaker 1>the first time using it, and so he points at

1784
01:56:14.439 --> 01:56:18.560
<v Speaker 1>what he's recording, and when he pointed at it, soon

1785
01:56:18.640 --> 01:56:23.560
<v Speaker 1>after that, the subject ducks behind the tree and we're

1786
01:56:23.720 --> 01:56:27.720
<v Speaker 1>like whoa. And so I'll get that footage over to

1787
01:56:27.800 --> 01:56:30.199
<v Speaker 1>you so you could get a copy for you to analyze,

1788
01:56:30.359 --> 01:56:34.399
<v Speaker 1>but that is posted off the channel. Yeah, check that out.

1789
01:56:34.600 --> 01:56:36.800
<v Speaker 1>And so we did a follow up and we're trying

1790
01:56:36.840 --> 01:56:40.600
<v Speaker 1>to figure out where the where this all took place

1791
01:56:40.640 --> 01:56:43.840
<v Speaker 1>because this was at night and we're a little confused

1792
01:56:43.880 --> 01:56:46.960
<v Speaker 1>on where exactly this was. But we did return. Not

1793
01:56:47.159 --> 01:56:50.600
<v Speaker 1>much happened on the return, but I will be posting

1794
01:56:50.720 --> 01:56:53.439
<v Speaker 1>that follow up and we're going to continue going up

1795
01:56:53.479 --> 01:56:56.640
<v Speaker 1>there to investigate and see what this might have been

1796
01:56:56.800 --> 01:56:59.359
<v Speaker 1>and to see if there's more activity up there.

1797
01:57:00.079 --> 01:57:03.039
<v Speaker 2>Good deal. Well, yeah, definitely stay in touch and any

1798
01:57:03.119 --> 01:57:06.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of collaboration here you'd like to do, just just

1799
01:57:06.199 --> 01:57:09.399
<v Speaker 2>let me know. And I'm in well Rondorf. I'm gonna

1800
01:57:09.399 --> 01:57:12.640
<v Speaker 2>go ahead and wrap this up here for tonight. Any

1801
01:57:12.760 --> 01:57:15.159
<v Speaker 2>parting words, any anything else you want to say to

1802
01:57:15.239 --> 01:57:17.439
<v Speaker 2>the people, and again let them know where they can

1803
01:57:17.520 --> 01:57:20.079
<v Speaker 2>find you on YouTube and in real life at your

1804
01:57:20.199 --> 01:57:22.319
<v Speaker 2>your skating smoke shop there. Yeah.

1805
01:57:22.439 --> 01:57:24.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, once again, I want to thank you, Steve.

1806
01:57:24.680 --> 01:57:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

1807
01:57:25.720 --> 01:57:28.920
<v Speaker 1>It's it's an honor and and like I said, a blessing.

1808
01:57:29.039 --> 01:57:32.359
<v Speaker 1>This is a big you know, it's be uh on

1809
01:57:32.560 --> 01:57:35.720
<v Speaker 1>here talking to you like this. Uh, this is one

1810
01:57:35.840 --> 01:57:39.239
<v Speaker 1>for my books for sure, and hopefully we continue to

1811
01:57:39.359 --> 01:57:44.359
<v Speaker 1>do this. Yeah, Sky's the Limit Smoke Shop, East LA

1812
01:57:44.640 --> 01:57:51.680
<v Speaker 1>thirty nine East Olympic Boulevard. Yeah, and then you could

1813
01:57:51.720 --> 01:57:56.680
<v Speaker 1>reach me at my YouTube channel at Brown Underscore Dwarf

1814
01:57:57.039 --> 01:58:01.920
<v Speaker 1>and my handle is at b D four two zero zero.

1815
01:58:04.640 --> 01:58:07.359
<v Speaker 2>Good deal. Well, once again, thanks for joining us here,

1816
01:58:07.760 --> 01:58:11.319
<v Speaker 2>looking forward to whatever we get into in the future.

1817
01:58:11.399 --> 01:58:14.159
<v Speaker 2>Here been a wonderful guest and said, you were the

1818
01:58:14.239 --> 01:58:16.079
<v Speaker 2>one that really turned me on to this topic. And

1819
01:58:16.159 --> 01:58:19.960
<v Speaker 2>I love that. And when somebody brings up something that

1820
01:58:20.039 --> 01:58:22.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm not really familiar with and sends me off on

1821
01:58:22.560 --> 01:58:26.720
<v Speaker 2>a wild ghost chase or a hunt down rabbit holes,

1822
01:58:26.760 --> 01:58:28.640
<v Speaker 2>and that's what this old world stuff has been. And

1823
01:58:28.720 --> 01:58:32.199
<v Speaker 2>there's something to it. That was the fascinating part. Again,

1824
01:58:32.479 --> 01:58:35.239
<v Speaker 2>hiding in plaining sight. I just never really paid that

1825
01:58:35.399 --> 01:58:37.680
<v Speaker 2>much attention to it. But then when you start digging

1826
01:58:38.039 --> 01:58:40.279
<v Speaker 2>and looking into it and seeing all the examples and

1827
01:58:40.319 --> 01:58:43.319
<v Speaker 2>all the places and hearing the stories behind it, something

1828
01:58:43.359 --> 01:58:45.520
<v Speaker 2>ain't right. And let's see if we can't get to

1829
01:58:45.600 --> 01:58:46.560
<v Speaker 2>the bottom of it. Brother.

1830
01:58:48.680 --> 01:58:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, you take care of Steve and you know

1831
01:58:53.079 --> 01:58:54.399
<v Speaker 1>anything you need, man, I'm.

1832
01:58:54.279 --> 01:58:59.119
<v Speaker 2>Here, bro say sorry and stay in touch. All right, folks,

1833
01:58:59.239 --> 01:59:02.439
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna wrap it up this episode of everything out there,

1834
01:59:02.880 --> 01:59:05.720
<v Speaker 2>I guess it's been Brown Dwarf. I'll link to the

1835
01:59:06.399 --> 01:59:09.640
<v Speaker 2>skate shop and the YouTube channel and the show notes

1836
01:59:10.159 --> 01:59:13.359
<v Speaker 2>on behalf of Brown Dwarf and myself see everybody a

1837
01:59:13.399 --> 01:59:16.319
<v Speaker 2>little farther on down the trail. Tell your animals we

1838
01:59:16.479 --> 01:59:17.960
<v Speaker 2>said hi. Good night everybody,