Speaker 1: You're listening to everything out there with your host Steve Stockton.
Speaker 2: Hell Long Friends Now. The Tartarian Empire is a conspiracy
Speaker 2: theory that proposes a vast advanced civilization existed in the
Speaker 2: past that was responsible for constructing many of the world's
Speaker 2: most impressive buildings. Adherents of this theory often claimed that
Speaker 2: these structures were later inherited, repurposed, or even destroyed by
Speaker 2: modern society. In the context of America, several architectural styles
Speaker 2: and specific buildings are often cited as evidence for this
Speaker 2: hidden theory. One of the key characteristics of Tartarian architecture
Speaker 2: is its grandeur and ornateness. Buildings from the Gilded Age,
Speaker 2: with their elaborate facades, towering spires, and opulent interiors, are
Speaker 2: often held up as examples. Structures like the Singer Building,
Speaker 2: which was demolished in nineteen sixty eight, and the original
Speaker 2: Pennsylvania Station in New York City are cited as prime
Speaker 2: examples of Tartarian influence. Even the temporary buildings of the
Speaker 2: nineteen fifteen World's Fair, with their impressive scale and intricate details,
Speaker 2: are sometimes attributed to this lost civilization. Another common theme
Speaker 2: is the use of advanced technology. Tartarian buildings are often
Speaker 2: said to incorporate features that were beyond the capabilities of
Speaker 2: the time, such as intricate ventilation systems, radiant heating, and
Speaker 2: even free energy devices shades of nikolay Tesla. Some proponents
Speaker 2: point to the existence of underground tunnels and chambers beneath
Speaker 2: many old buildings as further evidence of this advanced technology. Now,
Speaker 2: it's important to note that there is really no credible
Speaker 2: historical evidence to support the existence of a Tartarian empire,
Speaker 2: but that's what they would want you to believe. The
Speaker 2: architectural styles attribute to Tartaria can be readily explained by
Speaker 2: known historical and artistic movements such as Beaux Arts and
Speaker 2: Art Deco. The advanced technology claims are often based on
Speaker 2: speculation and possible misunderstanding of historical construction methods. The Tartarian
Speaker 2: empire theory, while intriguing to some, is ultimately at this
Speaker 2: point still a fringe belief with no provable basis in fact,
Speaker 2: and it's crucial to approach such claims with a healthy
Speaker 2: dose of skepticism and rely on variable historical and scientific evidence.
Speaker 2: Even though some claim this has all been scrubbed. While
Speaker 2: it's certainly fascinating to imagine a lost civilization with advanced knowledge.
Speaker 2: It's important to remember that our world's history is rich
Speaker 2: and complex enough without inventing what some believe are fictional empires.
Speaker 2: I'll let you decide for yourself now. Some examples include
Speaker 2: the Salt Lake City Temple in Utah. This grand building,
Speaker 2: construco by the Mormon Church in the late nineteenth century, is
Speaker 2: often cited for its intricate stonework in imposing presents. The
Speaker 2: US Capitol Building in Washington, d C. With its neo
Speaker 2: classical design and prominent dome, the Capital is a landmark.
Speaker 2: Tartarian theorists often point to supposed inconsistencies in its construction
Speaker 2: timeline and the existence of underground tunnels. And then there's
Speaker 2: the Old City Hall in San Francisco. Before it was
Speaker 2: damaged in the nineteen oh six earthquake, this building was
Speaker 2: known for its tornate Victorian architecture. Tartarian proponents claim it
Speaker 2: was far too advanced for its time. And then there's
Speaker 2: Union Station in Washington, d C. This Beaux Arts masterpiece,
Speaker 2: with its grand halls and classical statues, is another tartarian
Speaker 2: theory favorite. And there's the Chicago Cultural Center. Originally the
Speaker 2: Chicago Public Library, This building boasts stunning interiors with mosaics,
Speaker 2: stained glass, and marble. Tartarian theory often claim such opulence
Speaker 2: was beyond the capabilities of nineteenth century builders. And then
Speaker 2: there's the New York State Capitol in Albany. This massive building,
Speaker 2: with its elaborate stone carvings and grand staircase, is also
Speaker 2: often held up as a tartarian masterpiece. And again another
Speaker 2: city hall, this time in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Once the tallest
Speaker 2: habitable building in the world, this structure is known for
Speaker 2: its ornate towering clock. Tartarian theorists often point to its
Speaker 2: size and complexity as evidence through a lost civilization. Then
Speaker 2: let's go to Ohio for the Cincinnati Music Hall. This
Speaker 2: Victorian air building, with its grand concert hall and intricate details,
Speaker 2: is another tartarian favorite. And back to New York City
Speaker 2: the Grand Central Terminal. This iconic transportation hub, with its
Speaker 2: celestial ceiling and Beaux Arts architecture, is often cited as
Speaker 2: a tartarian creation. Now let's hop down to Ashville, North
Speaker 2: Carolina the famous Biltmore. This sprawling mansion built for George
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt in the late nineteenth century is often cited for
Speaker 2: its size and opulence, Tartarian theorists claiming was far too
Speaker 2: advance for its time. However, the Biltmore state was a
Speaker 2: product of the Gilded Age, when wealthy industrialists built lavis
Speaker 2: holmes to showcase their wealth and taste. Now, the Tartarian
Speaker 2: theory often relies on selective presentation of facts, and sometimes
Speaker 2: there's not a lot of historical context. But again, I'll
Speaker 2: leave it up to you to decide. So welcome to
Speaker 2: this show. We're going to delve into the captivating world
Speaker 2: of the Tartarian Empire theory. This interian concept proposes a
Speaker 2: lost civilization responsible for many of the world's most awe
Speaker 2: inspiring buildings, including many right here in America. Well journey
Speaker 2: across the United States exploring grand structures and architectural marvels
Speaker 2: often cited as evidence for this hidden history, or at
Speaker 2: least scrubbed history. But we won't just stop at admiration.
Speaker 2: We'll try and peel back the layers of speculation and
Speaker 2: examine the historical contexts. So join us tonight, So we
Speaker 2: try to separate facts from fiction, appreciate the ingenuity of
Speaker 2: our ancestors, and celebrate the rich tapestry of the architectural
Speaker 2: heritage that surrounds us, regardless of how it came to be.
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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello once again, everybody, Welcome back Steve Stockton, everything
Speaker 2: out there on the Clyde Lewis Crown zero Radio Network.
Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us tonight. Got a real special
Speaker 2: guest with us this evening, all the way from Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: Good friend of mine, Brown Dwarf. He's got a YouTube channel,
Speaker 2: a Brown Underscore Dwarf. I'll link it in the show notes.
Speaker 2: We're going to talk about some old world architecture here
Speaker 2: in the United States and as well as some aerial
Speaker 2: phenomena that he covers very well, and whatever else we
Speaker 2: get into. Brown Dwarf. How you doing, brother?
Speaker 1: Greeting Steve, Excited to be on here, honored and blessed.
Speaker 1: This is super exciting man.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Always a pleasure to have you as a guest.
Speaker 2: I know you've been on here before. I think you've
Speaker 2: been on here and I know you've been on from
Speaker 2: beyond that we do on Wednesday nights. I get confused
Speaker 2: sometimes I got so much stuff going on in so
Speaker 2: many different places. But either way, it's good to have
Speaker 2: you here tonight.
Speaker 1: Brother, Thank you, thank you. And as you can hear
Speaker 1: in the background, we're just talking about city sounds. There's
Speaker 1: some sirens going by there, and you might hear some
Speaker 1: other unexpected, unexpected sounds throughout the conversation. Here getting a
Speaker 1: little tongue tied. Yeah, No, the architecture, Yeah, we can
Speaker 1: dive right into that stuff. It's a it's a recent
Speaker 1: topic that I see a lot of people have been
Speaker 1: getting into, and I see some of the informations come
Speaker 1: across your way. And some people call the topic old
Speaker 1: world or or they'll call it tartaria. Yeah, and and
Speaker 1: that kind of is uh, I would say, in closing
Speaker 1: a large subject, you know, they just for short, we
Speaker 1: just call it. I'd like to call it old world.
Speaker 1: But the word and the name Terria comes up a
Speaker 1: lot in this subject. So one of the first things
Speaker 1: that was brought to my attention was it was through
Speaker 1: my brother, who who actually brings up a lot of
Speaker 1: things to me. And it's a younger brother of mine.
Speaker 1: He started showing me some information about some of the
Speaker 1: old buildings in Los Angeles here, and some of the
Speaker 1: information that he was relating to me wasn't fitting with
Speaker 1: the mainstream narrative. And I found that really interesting off
Speaker 1: the bat. And one of the first things was some
Speaker 1: of the dates of these buildings and stuff, and yeah,
Speaker 1: some of those dates just really didn't make sense. There
Speaker 1: was also the amount of time it took to build
Speaker 1: some of these buildings also is very fishy. You know,
Speaker 1: some of these buildings, Uh, surprisingly it'd be a they
Speaker 1: say it's a year or two that they build them.
Speaker 1: I found some that were even six months that they
Speaker 1: were building these buildings, And it just doesn't seem to
Speaker 1: match with the timeline and the knowledge and and the
Speaker 1: tools that we had at the time. I feel I
Speaker 1: know that there is a lot of old architecture from
Speaker 1: way back that that uh that people are you know know,
Speaker 1: famous stuff, and I just feel like some of those
Speaker 1: those types of buildings we really got to question, uh
Speaker 1: these days, because like I'm saying, this, uh information that's
Speaker 1: coming about now is really challenging the information we're given now.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know how you said that you
Speaker 1: possibly found out of this subject through me. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure how you found out about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to to remember it was. I think
Speaker 2: when you're with us on one of my YouTube channels
Speaker 2: from Beyond with Lee g Versus for Audio, you mentioned
Speaker 2: it and how there and when you're where you're at
Speaker 2: in downtown LA there were buildings and things that they
Speaker 2: kind of fit within that. And then once you start
Speaker 2: looking into it, there's a lot of buildings. Like you said,
Speaker 2: they were putting them up in record time back in
Speaker 2: the eighteen hundreds, and it just it doesn't make any
Speaker 2: sense to me. I look at like some of the
Speaker 2: skyscrapers in New York and things. I thought that with
Speaker 2: the tools and the I guess the esthetic or whatever
Speaker 2: they had at the time, I don't think they could
Speaker 2: build buildings like that today. And I know when I
Speaker 2: lived in Las Vegas, they were talking about one of
Speaker 2: the big casinos out there that they expected it to
Speaker 2: exists for about fifty years and then they knock it down.
Speaker 2: I can't think of the name of the one with
Speaker 2: the dancing waters out front. I lived out there for
Speaker 2: ten years, but I thought, you know, fifty years for
Speaker 2: those these giant resort casinos that they build out there,
Speaker 2: that's not a very long time. And here they were,
Speaker 2: they're building these buildings in the eighteen hundreds without the
Speaker 2: advent of modern tools, especially electric tools and things like that.
Speaker 2: It just said bottles the mind when you sit and
Speaker 2: think about it. I mean, that's one of those things
Speaker 2: always just so good. For granted, yeah, there's this beautiful architecture,
Speaker 2: these cathedrals, these skyscrapers, and you think, how did they
Speaker 2: build that with the technology and the tools available to
Speaker 2: them at the time. It doesn't make sense. There's something
Speaker 2: not giving here. We're not being told right things.
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, yeah, you know a lot of times
Speaker 1: the joke comes up of some buggy because that's what
Speaker 1: they tell us is what we had at the time, right,
Speaker 1: pretty much we were in horse and buggy and stuff
Speaker 1: like that and no electrical tools, and and I forget,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm pretty bad on the date of when
Speaker 1: like the tool certain tools came out and and but
Speaker 1: uh yeah, it's just once again it doesn't seem to match.
Speaker 1: And also another thing that comes up with these buildings
Speaker 1: is also the that there's technology in these buildings, and
Speaker 1: so this this architecture is obviously it's it's high grade masonry,
Speaker 1: and so it's someone with a lot of knowledge and
Speaker 1: and yeah, you mentioned that those Las Vegas resorts only
Speaker 1: lasting about fifty years, where these buildings have lasted possibly
Speaker 1: hundreds and maybe even thousands of years. Another thing is, uh,
Speaker 1: these buildings also tend to go a lot lower than
Speaker 1: what they seem at the face level. So a lot
Speaker 1: of these buildings go underground. And there's our theory of
Speaker 1: the mud flood comes up because there's buildings that look
Speaker 1: like they've been almost dug out. It seems like like
Speaker 1: the floor that the buildings at the first floor, it'll
Speaker 1: have windows and parts of the building that seem that
Speaker 1: should have been way above ground and it's at ground level.
Speaker 1: And parts of these buildings seem to be going underground also,
Speaker 1: and so it seems almost obvious that there's more to
Speaker 1: these buildings. And when you look into it, there is.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of buildings that actually go underground. And
Speaker 1: when you look more, some of these buildings even connect
Speaker 1: and so it makes you wonder what is going on
Speaker 1: because you're starting to look into tunnel systems also, and
Speaker 1: and come to find out there's a lot of cities
Speaker 1: with underground tunnels and stuff. And and once you start
Speaker 1: digging into that, more stuff comes up, like rail railroads
Speaker 1: and and different things like that. And and it's very
Speaker 1: interesting also, uh coming back above ground, some of these
Speaker 1: buildings are believed to have had and still have a
Speaker 1: tech technology. When you look at the tops of some
Speaker 1: of these buildings, you'll see, uh a lot of times
Speaker 1: they have used certain metals I think a lot of
Speaker 1: times like coppers and stuff like that. And then you'll
Speaker 1: have these uh I forget the names of them, but
Speaker 1: they're almost like antennas at the tops of these buildings.
Speaker 1: And uh so the question comes up, what are these things?
Speaker 1: What were they used for or what are they for?
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, another theory is that they were possibly
Speaker 1: harvesting energy from the ether somehow, and yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: fascinating stuff. And a lot of times these buildings are
Speaker 1: also seem to have been stripped of these certain things,
Speaker 1: just parts of the buildings that could have been like
Speaker 1: I said, valuable metals and maybe art and stuff like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it seems a lot of the time you'll get
Speaker 1: these pictures, old pictures of what looks like they're constructing
Speaker 1: these buildings, but a theory is that it could be
Speaker 1: that they're deconstructing these buildings. So when you'll see old
Speaker 1: photos of supposed buildings that are being built, you'll see
Speaker 1: scaffolding and stuff like that, and and so with the picture,
Speaker 1: you know, one would think, oh, yeah, and they tell
Speaker 1: you the story, Okay, it's being built, but we never
Speaker 1: a lot of us never stopped to think that maybe
Speaker 1: it's being deconstructed, you know, And so yeah, that comes up,
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's just so many more things. A lot
Speaker 1: of these buildings also are just massive in size. A
Speaker 1: lot of them tend to have these giant doors as well. Sometimes, uh,
Speaker 1: some of these doors are just massive, and you know,
Speaker 1: so one thinks and uh, questions why these doors so huge?
Speaker 1: And so yeah, you when to get into that and
Speaker 1: questioning that you get into the rabbit hole and and
Speaker 1: the topic of giants come up. So that's another thing
Speaker 1: with this whole topic giants. Going back to the tech. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's also talks of airships. You know, Uh, people call
Speaker 1: we call them blimps now these days and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: You know, theys to call them zeppelins as well. I think, uh,
Speaker 1: huh and uh, and so there's possible evidence of them
Speaker 1: having airships even before I guess we whatever date we
Speaker 1: have put on our first blip being out. And yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fascinating to think that, you know, there was already
Speaker 1: h aerial technology way before they tell us. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just it's very odd and just a lot of questions,
Speaker 1: and I feel like there's you know, uh, some answers
Speaker 1: come in our way. There's a lot of interesting people
Speaker 1: doing research on this, and I tend to follow them
Speaker 1: for the latest uh stuff. And I've also been doing
Speaker 1: my own boots on the ground stuff, you know, being
Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles. Uh, there's quite a bit of
Speaker 1: this old world stuff around here, and it's it's fascinating
Speaker 1: because it's beautiful, but also fascinating because a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't realize what we could be really looking at.
Speaker 1: And and when I say that, it could be that
Speaker 1: it's a remnants of an older civilization, a civilization we
Speaker 1: haven't learned about, we haven't been told about. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been on this trail here trying to figure this out,
Speaker 1: and it's just, yeah, it's it's an exciting thing, you know,
Speaker 1: It's it's it makes you look at life differently. I
Speaker 1: definitely have a different perspective when I go to different
Speaker 1: places and cities and stuff like that, because this stuff
Speaker 1: is worldwide. It's all over the place. And one theory
Speaker 1: is that whoever was building this stuff, it was a
Speaker 1: worldwide thing because a lot of similar architecture could be
Speaker 1: found throughout the world. And it's uh so it's like
Speaker 1: it makes a question, what's this connection or the style
Speaker 1: of building. And there's different styles of stuff too. I've
Speaker 1: been learning the different types of architecture. You know, you
Speaker 1: have your like a Gothic style, there's even a Gothic Revival.
Speaker 1: There's I think people are kind of making stuff up
Speaker 1: to mixing different styles and making up their own. But yeah,
Speaker 1: they have your Art Deco and and your Greek, you know,
Speaker 1: Roman Greek style, Romanesque. There's all these different types of styles,
Speaker 1: and some of them also tempt to mix. So you'll
Speaker 1: have a building that will look like it has different
Speaker 1: types of styles of architecture as well, and you know,
Speaker 1: people question that. Yeah, it could be that when different
Speaker 1: types of people were occupying those lands, then you know,
Speaker 1: they added on to those buildings and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, fascinating stuff and then once again, you know,
Speaker 1: the giant thing. People might be thrown off like by that,
Speaker 1: you know, but there is a lot of excuse me,
Speaker 1: lot of evidence pointing towards the giants being a real thing,
Speaker 1: you know, so I definitely believe in it. You know.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of different cases throughout the world, and
Speaker 1: here locally we have a Catalina Island, which is also
Speaker 1: you know, known I'm sure you've heard about the giants,
Speaker 1: the skeletons that they found out there, and Catalina also
Speaker 1: being you know, we'll probably get into the the aerial
Speaker 1: stuff later, but also known for UFO activity and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. So I got to visit there as well.
Speaker 1: And there's this structure on Catalina that is known as
Speaker 1: the Casino, and it's funny that's come up as in
Speaker 1: the topic as an old world structure, and I got
Speaker 1: to check that out up close. I should have examined
Speaker 1: it a lot more closer when I had the chance,
Speaker 1: but I was still questioning it at the time. I
Speaker 1: wasn't sure, and eventually I heard someone that I followed
Speaker 1: mentioning I was like, darn, I should have dug a
Speaker 1: little deeper in there, but I definitely did an outside
Speaker 1: scan of it, and I think it's very possible. And
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting to think that you have these giants
Speaker 1: being found on the island and then once again this
Speaker 1: these one of these structures. And so for me, there's
Speaker 1: a little connection there. And yeah, it's just it makes
Speaker 1: you question the history we've been taught in school and everything.
Speaker 1: It just really flips all that upside down. And with that,
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of stuff that you know, may
Speaker 1: bother people, you know, because it just kind of flips
Speaker 1: your world upside down once you uh start getting into
Speaker 1: this stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and the thing that the surprise me about
Speaker 2: Tartary the Tartarians. There's a map that I found and
Speaker 2: it's from like nineteen hundred, nineteen hundred and six or
Speaker 2: something like that. I've never seen a map in any
Speaker 2: of my schooling that had that on it. Yet there
Speaker 2: it is. And it's not, you know, like I said,
Speaker 2: it's not a map from biblical times or a map
Speaker 2: from even a few hundred years ago. This is like
Speaker 2: something from the early nineteen hundreds. There it is, but
Speaker 2: I've never heard it mentioned until lately. And then some
Speaker 2: of the stuff and it just seems like Los Angeles
Speaker 2: is just a treasure trow of the stuff. One of
Speaker 2: the ones that that springs mind. And I've seen this one.
Speaker 2: It's out in Yeah, just right in the edge of
Speaker 2: Burbank there called the Portal of the Folded Wings. Have
Speaker 2: you ever seen that? It's a shrine to aviation.
Speaker 1: It's a yes. And you know what, I had looked
Speaker 1: that up and I was wondering. I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I wonder if that's an old world, you know,
Speaker 1: from the Old World. And but they do have a
Speaker 1: date on it, and they do have the name of
Speaker 1: disposed uh architect that.
Speaker 2: Mountain in twenty something, twenty four.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting that you bring that up. That that's
Speaker 1: definitely something I looked into, but I haven't visited that yet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: super fascinating. And then not far from Burbank is uh Pasadena, California,
Speaker 1: and Pasadena seems to be like just all old world.
Speaker 1: You have old old town Pasadena's funny you got the
Speaker 1: old town Pasadena and Pasadena and an old town of
Speaker 1: course that's where a lot of these these buildings are.
Speaker 1: And uh. One researcher was looking into Pasadena and pointed
Speaker 1: out just a bunch of buildings there, and even the
Speaker 1: city Hall is just amazing. And I've gotten to check
Speaker 1: out a lot of these buildings there and finding more
Speaker 1: in the area. But the Rose Bowl. He believes that
Speaker 1: that area there was probably full of a bunch of
Speaker 1: buildings as well, but was maybe somehow either covered up
Speaker 1: because a lot of times, uh, these golf courses and
Speaker 1: and stadiums and stuff like hotels is another thing that
Speaker 1: seemed to cover up a lot of these places where
Speaker 1: these buildings used to be. And and they say, just
Speaker 1: Pasadena seems to have a lot of this stuff there.
Speaker 1: And and there's something about Pasadena too. You can feel it.
Speaker 1: It has a very like to me, like a haunted
Speaker 1: a vibe, a haunted feeling, spooky feeling. And there's been
Speaker 1: a lot that's gone on there. I mean, you got NASA, JPL,
Speaker 1: Jack Parsons and that whole you know, that's that's a
Speaker 1: whole other subject we could get into there. But that's
Speaker 1: all all within that area there where you have all
Speaker 1: these buildings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd forgotten Jack Parsons was a resident of Pasadena
Speaker 2: and blew himself up while supposedly working on special effects
Speaker 2: for Hollywood, but he was working on it was a
Speaker 2: fulminate of mercury that he was playing around with. But
Speaker 2: he was also a follower of Aleister Crowley and was
Speaker 2: into some dark magic and some things like that. So
Speaker 2: who knows for sure. I mean, this was a guy,
Speaker 2: you know, the founder of the JPL and stuff. You
Speaker 2: think he would know what he was doing with something
Speaker 2: relatively simple like a fulminated mercury. But it is very volatile,
Speaker 2: I understand. But yeah, I'm a big fan of Parsons.
Speaker 2: I like reading about him and some of his exports
Speaker 2: and stuff. There's a there's a book of Sex and Rockets,
Speaker 2: and then there's another one about him that's just fascinating,
Speaker 2: fascinating stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and I'm gonna be doing something on it.
Speaker 1: I've been kind of procrastinating on it, but I'm waiting
Speaker 1: for the energy to get out there, and I want
Speaker 1: to be able to do it as proper as possible.
Speaker 1: Kind of touching on Parsons, there's this area there known
Speaker 1: also Devil's Gate Dam, where I guess they would go
Speaker 1: and blow up a lot of the rockets because it
Speaker 1: was out of high they were still in high school,
Speaker 1: I believe when they were hired by I think it
Speaker 1: was the military or I'm not sure who, but to
Speaker 1: help make explosives and stuff, and so they were out
Speaker 1: there blowing stuff up. But there's a whole yeah, pretty
Speaker 1: dark and ocult stuff. And and yeah, where he lived,
Speaker 1: the parsonage, this mansion that he had where a lot
Speaker 1: of this occult activity, wild parties and yeah, very interesting stuff.
Speaker 1: And I know the mansion is no longer there, but
Speaker 1: I'd like to check out that that particular area. I
Speaker 1: think they got maybe a house, are some apartments there now.
Speaker 1: But yeah, all that happening in right here in Pasadena
Speaker 1: and also another place. You know, it seems like these
Speaker 1: major cities are are are the hubs of these old
Speaker 1: world center points, but at the same time, so are
Speaker 1: these small towns. Very small towns you'll find some of
Speaker 1: this old architecture as well. But I wanted to point
Speaker 1: out in California that San Francisco, of course, is another
Speaker 1: major one where you'll find a bunch of this stuff.
Speaker 1: And San Diego as well is another major one. You
Speaker 1: got a Balboa Park there that's amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a wild looking structure there at Balboa Park.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, definitely I've never been there either, but we
Speaker 1: theorize that somehow the zoo San Diego Zoo and what
Speaker 1: else is there? I think there's something else there, but
Speaker 1: somehow the zoo is covering up like we were mentioning
Speaker 1: that the golf courses, hotels and stadiums and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So in this case, it's the zoo that's covering up
Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff there. And I hear it drops
Speaker 1: down in levels also, so it'd be interesting to poke
Speaker 1: around there a little more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just so many places, especially in southern California
Speaker 2: that warn't explorations. Thinking if you can go boots on
Speaker 2: the ground, that'd be an awesome series. I'd love to
Speaker 2: see that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, I'm trying to get out there as much
Speaker 1: as possible. And yeah, you know, the gas prices has
Speaker 1: still been hitting the pocket hard, so it makes it
Speaker 1: a little bit difficult. But you know, whenever I get
Speaker 1: the chance, I check things out, you know, And I'm
Speaker 1: just working on also documenting things and and I've recently
Speaker 1: gotten some new gear to help me out with editing
Speaker 1: videos and stuff, So just learning how to do all
Speaker 1: that to be able to present what I'm expressing better,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's coming along, you know, just chipping
Speaker 1: away at it, learning new things. And also I've gotten
Speaker 1: some recent gear to help me a live stream and
Speaker 1: podcasts also because I want to be able to present
Speaker 1: some of this stuff and show some of the findings
Speaker 1: and really a breakdown also some of my videos and yeah,
Speaker 1: so we're working on that as well. But yeah, any anytime,
Speaker 1: I mean, even when I think back to places I visited,
Speaker 1: there's you know, throughout my travels and I know you've
Speaker 1: traveled a whole lot. Yeah, I could remember a lot
Speaker 1: of places where it's like, oh, yeah, you know, seeing
Speaker 1: some of these old buildings or old things that could
Speaker 1: pertain to the Old World. And for me, one of
Speaker 1: them off the bat being in I remember visiting Brazil
Speaker 1: and we were in the state of Salvador. It's northern Brazil,
Speaker 1: and there's a small town called Bellarino and there it's
Speaker 1: like a cobble street, stones and man, let me tell you,
Speaker 1: everything there seemed old world. But at the time I
Speaker 1: had no idea. I wasn't into the topic. I just
Speaker 1: knew that a lot of these sites were tourist destinations
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But now learning some of this stuff.
Speaker 1: It definitely I would have looked at those places with
Speaker 1: different eyes and and so yeah, there's just different places.
Speaker 1: Even in Mexico, you know, you could find a lot
Speaker 1: of this stuff there, and even the old megaliths. You know,
Speaker 1: this is all this stuff that we're talking about as well.
Speaker 1: You know, it makes you, uh wonder about some of
Speaker 1: the stuff we're top from Egypt and stuff like that
Speaker 1: and just other cultures that go way back. So it
Speaker 1: seems like the more you dig, the more this stuff
Speaker 1: comes up, and and the more that the narrative is
Speaker 1: just not making sense. And uh, and there's very very
Speaker 1: bizarre things that people are starting to find, uh, like
Speaker 1: even in in the narratives. So like, uh for instance,
Speaker 1: in like some of the buildings, Uh, you'll find this
Speaker 1: fire narrative a lot of times in these old world buildings,
Speaker 1: they'll have a history of fires and it and a
Speaker 1: lot of times it seems like that there couldn't have
Speaker 1: been I mean, or there wasn't a fire because these
Speaker 1: buildings are made of certain materials that can't burn. And uh,
Speaker 1: but in the narrative they'll say that it got burnt
Speaker 1: down and then rebuilt and sometimes it'll that'll happen several
Speaker 1: times throughout history, but yet the building is still there
Speaker 1: and or a lot of times they'll demolish these buildings
Speaker 1: and maybe even throwing the fire narrative, and the fire
Speaker 1: narrative is possibly a nod to this group that is
Speaker 1: holding this information. So we we we believe that there
Speaker 1: is you know, certain secret societies, some of them that
Speaker 1: are well known, that have to do with maybe even
Speaker 1: the construction or with having the information of the truth
Speaker 1: of these buildings and the real history.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I just I would say, you don't
Speaker 2: like the Mason's. I mean, that's what they were all about,
Speaker 2: you know, And I don't know. It's just like I said,
Speaker 2: it boggles the mind looking at some of these places.
Speaker 2: The New York Public Library, the main branch. The marble
Speaker 2: on the library building is about three feet thick and
Speaker 2: it was built like between the eighteen ninety seven and
Speaker 2: nineteen eleven. I think is just monstrous. And looking at
Speaker 2: some other examples here picture of Spokane, Washington in the
Speaker 2: nineteen twenties, all this just incredible architecture. The Panama, California
Speaker 2: Exposition Center of whatever it's called in San Diego nineteen
Speaker 2: fifteen there's a shot here Montgomery, Alabama in nineteen o six,
Speaker 2: and it just looks totally unlike anything I would have
Speaker 2: expected to find in the Deep South at that time.
Speaker 1: Right. And then another thing is the population. The population
Speaker 1: when you look into certain towns and cities and it
Speaker 1: doesn't match the infrastructure of the city. So they say, like,
Speaker 1: for example, to give you a date, and they'll say,
Speaker 1: at that time, the population was this, But there's already
Speaker 1: this massive there's already a massive city there. So how
Speaker 1: is it that this recent population that just got there
Speaker 1: built this whole city up? And we're talking these amazing
Speaker 1: type buildings that I think would take a lot longer
Speaker 1: than what they're telling us to build. And so it
Speaker 1: just once again, it doesn't line up, you know. And yeah,
Speaker 1: there's for we're talking trying to give examples. Another one
Speaker 1: that pops into mind is the Empire State Building. If
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, they say that was built in a
Speaker 1: I think it was a year or two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't see that happening. And another one I
Speaker 2: wanted to mention, I've seen this one been two or
Speaker 2: three years ago. I spoke at the UFO conference in
Speaker 2: San Francisco and got there a couple of days early,
Speaker 2: did some sight saying, went to see the Palace of
Speaker 2: Fine Arts there in San Francisco. In that place is
Speaker 2: just is phenomenal. Take a look at that sometime and
Speaker 2: again that's here that was built here nineteen fifteen, this
Speaker 2: is when it opened. And I see a lot of domes,
Speaker 2: domes where there's domes, a lot of the capital state
Speaker 2: capitol buildings, and our national capital things, you'll find domes prevalent.
Speaker 2: And then there's a lot of Masonic things hidden in
Speaker 2: the geography and the way things are laid out in Washington,
Speaker 2: d C. As well.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, And there's the talks of these structures
Speaker 1: also possibly on certain lay lines and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: energy points and the.
Speaker 2: Domes are there to concentrate the energy. And something I
Speaker 2: was already I think it was on the Reddit, so
Speaker 2: your mileage may vary, but it was talking about how
Speaker 2: a lot of these places where there's a dome, then
Speaker 2: there'll be some sort of tunnel right underneath that to
Speaker 2: the dome concentrates and gathers the energy and then puts
Speaker 2: it in the tunnel and then shoots it along the
Speaker 2: lines of the next place or something like that Wow,
Speaker 2: sounds very teslas and I'm talking the test inventor, not
Speaker 2: Elon Musk.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right. And so the topic of free energy comes up,
Speaker 1: and that possibly in these times where when things were
Speaker 1: up and going in this civilized, possible civilization we're talking
Speaker 1: about here, that there was free energy going around and
Speaker 1: high tech stuff a lot more TechEd out than we
Speaker 1: are here now. I know, we feel pretty TechEd out,
Speaker 1: and this is pretty cool that we're able to commute
Speaker 1: nicate like this right now. I'm using my phone at
Speaker 1: the moment, and and and it's it's it blows my mind.
Speaker 1: But from what I hear and what we theorize is
Speaker 1: that they're slowly releasing some of this technology that was
Speaker 1: already around slowly back into the public. And and then
Speaker 1: you know, we have AI. Now, there was a couple
Speaker 1: of things that you mentioned earlier, and hopefully they'll pop
Speaker 1: back up in my head here now. But speaking of AI,
Speaker 1: another theory is that these narratives are being pumped out
Speaker 1: by AI, because in the narratives you'll find a lot
Speaker 1: of times we were talking like the fire theory is
Speaker 1: one anomaly. Another one is that the repetition of certain
Speaker 1: names within the narratives. So you'll you'll read about let's
Speaker 1: say a certain building and for some reason, let's say
Speaker 1: a certain last name, Richardson's and sons let's say built
Speaker 1: the building. Well, then the name Richardson's will come out
Speaker 1: several times within the narrative, one or two, three times,
Speaker 1: and it's like almost like this computer had just generated
Speaker 1: this narrative, you know, and you're we're finding that in
Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff, just like the fire, the
Speaker 1: fire anomaly, and it's just really bizarre and really fascinating.
Speaker 1: And yeah, you were talking about the tunnels going down
Speaker 1: under the domes and stuff. There's another thing where they
Speaker 1: believe energy was being somehow produced or recycled somehow with
Speaker 1: the water fountains in front of these buildings. So you'll
Speaker 1: find a lot of these buildings used to have water
Speaker 1: fountains or there's some sort of like water source nearby.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's real interesting because there is certain buildings
Speaker 1: that I could find now that do have either a
Speaker 1: lake or a pond, some sort some sort of water
Speaker 1: stores or water fountains in front of them. And then
Speaker 1: also the whole thing with these bells, giant bells and
Speaker 1: organs come up to just like in a lot of
Speaker 1: these cathedrals and churches, there's these organs, and supposedly these
Speaker 1: bells and organs were also vibrating frequencies and energies that
Speaker 1: we're producing certain types of energies or healing properties and
Speaker 1: stuff like that I've heard, which is fascinating. And those
Speaker 1: are some of the things that also are missing from
Speaker 1: certain buildings as well. That we've noticed is sometimes these
Speaker 1: organs will go missing, or these giant bells. These bells
Speaker 1: is another thing. And then the antenna tops to a
Speaker 1: lot of buildings seem like they've been stripped of these things.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's weird. Makes you wonder where that went.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And another thing I find interesting a lot of
Speaker 2: this stuff is tied to expositions or world's fairs. I
Speaker 2: know in Knoxville, Tennessee, had area there called the Long
Speaker 2: Magnolia Avenue called Chilhowie Park. It's where there was an
Speaker 2: exposition there and it was nineteen ten Appalachian Exposition there.
Speaker 2: There was one in nineteen ten and one in nineteen eleven,
Speaker 2: and those were held to demonstrate progress in southern industry.
Speaker 2: President Theodore Roosevelt smoking nineteen ten and President Taft Smoking
Speaker 2: nineteen eleven. And again there's that name game. The large
Speaker 2: exhibit hall was designed by an architect named Graft and
Speaker 2: then there was a Tennessee marble bandstand designed by a
Speaker 2: different architect no relation, named rf Grafh same spelling of
Speaker 2: the last name, and also made zeppelins. You know, we
Speaker 2: were talking about the blimps earlier. These expositions saw the
Speaker 2: first airplane and zeppelin lights in East Tennessee. So there's
Speaker 2: all this just weird overlapping stuff that you didn't you
Speaker 2: wouldn't think would have anything to do with one another,
Speaker 2: but yet it does. And there was we were talking
Speaker 2: about the earlier the zeppelins and stuff. There was between
Speaker 2: I think it's between I want to say eighteen seventy
Speaker 2: six to around eighteen ninety seven there was just a
Speaker 2: whole wave of mysterious airships with electric lights, propellers, the
Speaker 2: whole deal. They're reported flying in California, Texas and the
Speaker 2: Great Lakes area here in the United States and then
Speaker 2: some other places in other countries. That's I don't know,
Speaker 2: kind of a UFO flat before the modern day UFO
Speaker 2: thing even got started. I wonder what all these flying
Speaker 2: machines was about. That's you know, I've been to the
Speaker 2: Outer Banks and Kitty Hawk and been to the Right
Speaker 2: Brothers thing where they built their place. And again looking
Speaker 2: at the dates, all these things, you know, the telephone,
Speaker 2: the telegraph, the light bulb flight, all this happened within
Speaker 2: just the span of a decade or so, or maybe
Speaker 2: longer than that, but all around the same time period.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, there was just this burst of
Speaker 2: technology that seemed to come out of nowhere. Radio came
Speaker 2: to being in that time, and early attempts at television,
Speaker 2: and just it just boggles the mind.
Speaker 1: Yes, agreed. And you mentioned the World's Fair. That's another. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the big thing that comes up in this. And you
Speaker 1: mentioned in Tesla. If I'm not mistaken, I think I
Speaker 1: was hearing something that I think Tesla might have lit
Speaker 1: one of the World's fares up, I think with his
Speaker 1: light bulbs or something like that, if I'm not mistake,
Speaker 1: or somehow he powered up one of the world's fairs.
Speaker 1: I heard. I don't know if it was the one
Speaker 1: in Chicago, but yeah, it's interesting. And I heard recently
Speaker 1: that our new president was talking of having some sort
Speaker 1: of World's Fair type thing happened. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you heard anything about that, but that was interesting. I
Speaker 1: had a friend send me something about that. There was
Speaker 1: a few other things also. I'm telling you, there's so
Speaker 1: much that that just pops into mind when you mentioned
Speaker 1: certain things, and I was trying to hold on to
Speaker 1: some of those things. But man, yeah, you could go
Speaker 1: many ways with this. So yeah, once again the zeppelins.
Speaker 1: What was something else that came to mind?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: Darn anyway, but yeah, anything else that you could help
Speaker 1: me bounce back here, Steve, What else could we chop
Speaker 1: up here on this?
Speaker 2: Well? I heard you mentioned the mud flood a couple
Speaker 2: of times there. Expound on that a little bit, if
Speaker 2: you would. That that's a part of this new wrinkle
Speaker 2: on this horn to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's been talks of these cataclysms
Speaker 1: throughout our history, and you know that there's like, what
Speaker 1: is it the Epic of or the epic of Gilgamesh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what'll just called the I believe it, that's what it is.
Speaker 1: And it's kind of like there's a muffler. And then
Speaker 1: even looking into the Bible, you know there's uh talks
Speaker 1: of the flood there and and so it's very possible
Speaker 1: that that that's what could have happened here. And also
Speaker 1: another thing that comes up is possibly because a lot
Speaker 1: of these buildings have been destroyed. Obviously, we've had a
Speaker 1: lot of wars and stuff like that, and and they're
Speaker 1: continuing to destroy these buildings. I mean, we've recently had
Speaker 1: what was it, the Notre Dame building went up on fire.
Speaker 1: There's been several as of late of Old World buildings
Speaker 1: that have caught fire. So I believe it's it's still happening.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just uh yeah, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think there's definitely something happening here, and we're starting to
Speaker 1: see uh, just like a new a new world here.
Speaker 1: And it's kind of weird that I'm saying that, because
Speaker 1: you know that there's talks of the nWo, the New
Speaker 1: World Order and all that stuff. But I do feel
Speaker 1: that there's some sort of awakening. You know, there's a
Speaker 1: there's a lot of information moving rapidly now and and
Speaker 1: and things are are just uh really starting to I think,
Speaker 1: uh shine on a lot of darkness that's going on.
Speaker 1: So yeah, going back to the World's Fair, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of dark stuff behind that too, there was a
Speaker 1: lot of cool technology and and and and things that
Speaker 1: were being presented in those world's fairs, but uh, I've
Speaker 1: heard some dark stuff as well. You know, there's talks
Speaker 1: of the incubator babies. There's talks of uh just certain
Speaker 1: races being almost displayed. Uh yeah, just things that that
Speaker 1: make you question, uh, certain morals and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, so talking about these incubator babies. Once
Speaker 1: you get into this, it throws you down another rabbit hole,
Speaker 1: and that's the rabbit hole of the the orphan train kids.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if you're familiar with this or
Speaker 1: heard anything about it.
Speaker 2: I've briefly heard about it, but let the audience know
Speaker 2: what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, and like I said, I'm no expert in this.
Speaker 1: I'm learning with everyone at the same time. But there's
Speaker 1: been talks about that, like repopulation of of the these places.
Speaker 1: So once, for instance, here in the US, uh yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, we talked in our history, we talk about
Speaker 1: our h a lot of ancestors and stuff like that
Speaker 1: coming from Europe and in different places, and the natives
Speaker 1: were already here and but there's this talk about that
Speaker 1: some of these repopulation sites. Different major cities were actually
Speaker 1: being repopulated by orphans and stuff like that. And uh,
Speaker 1: and so people started tracing back their lineage and a
Speaker 1: lot of people are finding that their ancestral history is
Speaker 1: stops at a certain point and they can't really like
Speaker 1: remember anything from there or can't find anything else from
Speaker 1: that point, and and it's really really odd and and
Speaker 1: so it makes a question where these orphans coming from.
Speaker 1: And you'll find that a lot of these Old World
Speaker 1: buildings were asylums and also orphanages and and so it
Speaker 1: makes you wonder why are they using these buildings for that?
Speaker 1: You know, It's almost like they use those types of
Speaker 1: buildings for a reason. And and so yeah, it gets real,
Speaker 1: real sketchy and murky, but the information is there once
Speaker 1: you start getting into this stuff, and like I said,
Speaker 1: it gets dark. So I'll just leave it at that
Speaker 1: and leave it up to the audience that dig from there.
Speaker 1: It is definitely an issue that comes up when you
Speaker 1: get into this stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely something that they want to do their own
Speaker 2: research on because we're just, i mean barely scraping the
Speaker 2: tip of the iceberg here. I've watched video after video
Speaker 2: after video in the last few days, and it's I'm
Speaker 2: still learning, still letting it sync in, but it's just
Speaker 2: it's almost overwhelming how much out there. And it's one
Speaker 2: of those things that's just hidden in plain sight, like
Speaker 2: a lot of the Masonic imagery and things like that.
Speaker 2: And if you look at some of the things that
Speaker 2: they built, they were like schools, cathedrals, temples, museums, even
Speaker 2: some theaters and stuff, some of those old Art deco
Speaker 2: show places like that. It's just I don't understand. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's something that feels off, that feels wrong about all this,
Speaker 2: and I can't even put my finger on what it is.
Speaker 2: It feels so wrong about it. It's like you were saying,
Speaker 2: those places feel kind of there's a dark energy or
Speaker 2: like maybe they're haunted or something there. It's hard to describe.
Speaker 2: This is a weird, eerie.
Speaker 1: Feeling, definitely. And so yeah, all this once again it
Speaker 1: makes you question our history and and for me, you know,
Speaker 1: I I you know, I feel like our history, especially
Speaker 1: the history that we've been taught, has really uh damaged
Speaker 1: a lot of us. You know, I feel like it's
Speaker 1: separated a lot of our country and our world. But
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I feel very much connected to people,
Speaker 1: no matter where you're from or where you where you
Speaker 1: came from. You know, I love all people and and
Speaker 1: and being here in the US is just a melting pot,
Speaker 1: especially here in Los Angeles, and I just feel like
Speaker 1: we all have a part in this, you know, whether
Speaker 1: you're native, whether you know you came from Europe or
Speaker 1: Africa or wherever it is, we all have something to
Speaker 1: do with this. So we're all included somehow, and we're
Speaker 1: all just trying to figure out, uh, you know, what
Speaker 1: the deal is. And and I feel like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully this doesn't separate people more. I feel like, hopefully
Speaker 1: it brings more people together and and as we learn,
Speaker 1: you know more, hopefully uh more people get into this
Speaker 1: and and share share their knowledge. Because uh there's a
Speaker 1: few people that are have come out as as of
Speaker 1: late talking about their uh you know, their their lineage
Speaker 1: and stuff like that and finding out that that that
Speaker 1: that there is something you know up you know, some
Speaker 1: people don't remember certain things and stuff like that, and uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's bizarre and definitely something I'm going to keep
Speaker 1: looking into.
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially in this day and age, you know, with
Speaker 2: twenty three and me and all these things in the genealogy.
Speaker 2: I know my brother years and years ago looked into ours.
Speaker 2: But you can only get so far back, and then
Speaker 2: you seem to hit like the dead end. You know,
Speaker 2: a brick wall there, and I don't know if that's
Speaker 2: my design or just you know, the record keeping thing.
Speaker 2: But then you look at other places, ancient civilizations, so
Speaker 2: you can trace all kinds of things back. But then
Speaker 2: here in America we as the people, and we go
Speaker 2: back so far and did find some interesting things out about.
Speaker 2: My family had people that served under George Washington, and
Speaker 2: then I had people on both sides in the Civil
Speaker 2: War and now mainly British English. Rather on my mother's side,
Speaker 2: they immigrated over from England and landed in the CAD's
Speaker 2: Cove area, and my mother was I think sick generation.
Speaker 2: My dad's family they were from Middle Tenancy over on
Speaker 2: the Cumberland Plaza. They were from I think Scotland in England,
Speaker 2: and then they mixed with the Native Cherokee there, so
Speaker 2: I'm an eighth Cherokee I think on that side. But
Speaker 2: it's still it's now over there, like where my dad
Speaker 2: was from. You can only trace things back so far
Speaker 2: because they as far as proof anyway, they burned the
Speaker 2: courthouse there in Jamestown, Finchans County during the Civil War.
Speaker 2: So I tried to trace that Cherokee lineage back and
Speaker 2: I know which relative it was, and I can find
Speaker 2: her on the Cherokee rolls, but the marriage certificate and
Speaker 2: all that was lost in the courthouse fire during the
Speaker 2: Civil War. So I know it, but I can't prove it.
Speaker 1: One of those things interesting. Yeah, yeah, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: With this topic, there's so many things, and I know,
Speaker 1: you know, you can't do it all within a couple hours,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. I mean there's so many angles of
Speaker 1: this that you could just pick at, and that's why
Speaker 1: I feel like I was just a little scrambled in
Speaker 1: this conversation. I was like trying to cover as much possible.
Speaker 2: I know, it's all over the road, man, but that's
Speaker 2: that's good. I mean, this is literally everything out there,
Speaker 2: but it is. It's such a scattered topic and there's
Speaker 2: so many separate and interesting rabbit holes to dive down.
Speaker 2: It's a whole web of stuff there.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes it is. And another one, for instance, is
Speaker 1: like the symbol of Tartaria, you know, and I feel
Speaker 1: I'll say, you know, people will call it, like I said,
Speaker 1: the topic Tartaria, but I don't feel it's all Tartarian
Speaker 1: all around, like these Tartarians were everywhere once And I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's like that. It comes across like
Speaker 1: that when you get into it, but I think, you know,
Speaker 1: there's there's more to it. But we say Tartaria to
Speaker 1: cover the topic. And that their symbol being a griffin,
Speaker 1: and so you'll find uh in a lot of these
Speaker 1: buildings and and in in certain architecture you'll find these griffins,
Speaker 1: and so could it be that that that was their symbol?
Speaker 1: And when you get into Tartaria, Uh, that was I
Speaker 1: believe in northern and like northern Russia, and I believe
Speaker 1: it was the Russians that eventually had taken over tart Tartaria.
Speaker 1: And then you had mentioned the maps. That's a whole
Speaker 1: other topic there is is you get into these old
Speaker 1: maps and there's some very interesting ones and the way
Speaker 1: the certain land masses were laid out, and certain land
Speaker 1: masses that were around and no longer around, and and
Speaker 1: you'll see the name, uh, the Tartaria sometimes spelled a
Speaker 1: little different and uh, and yeah, the maps is just
Speaker 1: a whole other wormhole there. Yeah, I don't know, it's
Speaker 1: just so many questions and we could definitely get into
Speaker 1: this again and hopefully focus on certain little points. But yeah,
Speaker 1: because the airship one thing, it brings up modern day
Speaker 1: UFOs also that we're having. You know, I did want
Speaker 1: to touch on this a little bit. We did mentioned
Speaker 1: in the beginning we're talking, Uh, we were going to
Speaker 1: talk a little about the aerial phenomenon's happening here. And
Speaker 1: as of late, it seems like things are ramping up.
Speaker 1: You're getting these drone sightings and so outside our shop
Speaker 1: with my brother and I have a shop at skate
Speaker 1: shop and there's been a bunch of sightings and it's
Speaker 1: some of the videos you'll see on my channel. It
Speaker 1: seemed like, yeah, it was alarming just to see how
Speaker 1: much activity was going on there. And you know, so
Speaker 1: we were talking these airships and then high tech. You know,
Speaker 1: I think it comes across my mind that I wondered, like, well,
Speaker 1: did they have UFOs then? I mean even in Vedic,
Speaker 1: you know old Vedic texts, you hear about these vimanas
Speaker 1: UFOs way back then, and so I think it's very possible,
Speaker 1: and it could be possible that some of that technology
Speaker 1: still around, which could be some of these sightings we're
Speaker 1: having now as well. I don't know, but definitely something
Speaker 1: to think about. And yeah, very just strange times now,
Speaker 1: asked Steve.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, And that's an old Chinese blessing and a curse.
Speaker 2: May you live in interesting times. And brother, we are
Speaker 2: right in the middle of all kinds of thirty two
Speaker 2: flavors of interesting, just some good, some bad, but interesting. Nonetheless, Brander,
Speaker 2: let's take a little break here for about five midicine.
Speaker 2: Then we'll come back and pick up where we left off.
Speaker 2: I want to hear the story behind some of those
Speaker 2: fabulous UFO videos that you have on your channel. We'll
Speaker 2: be back right after this on everything out there on
Speaker 2: the Clyde Lewis Ground zero Radio Network.
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Speaker 2: Clyde Lewis Grand Zero Radio Network. I'm Steve Stockton and
Speaker 2: we're talking to our very special guest, Brown Dwarf. You know,
Speaker 2: in this hour we're going to talk about some UFOs
Speaker 2: U A p S, the strange aero phenomena that my
Speaker 2: friend here is documenting on his YouTube channel. That's Brown
Speaker 2: Underscore Dwarf on YouTube. There'll be a link in the
Speaker 2: show notes Boundorf. I just wanted to ask you what
Speaker 2: initially got you interested in UFOs. Was it a sighting
Speaker 2: or did you just hear about it and start delowing
Speaker 2: into it or what's your backstory on that?
Speaker 1: Thanks? For having me back, Steve, and that was awesome
Speaker 1: to hear Leon there. I didn't know that was him
Speaker 1: initially got me into this. Well. Growing up in Los Angeles, Hollywood, California,
Speaker 1: it's kind of a trip. Growing up there, I was
Speaker 1: always exposed to a lot of I guess you could
Speaker 1: say programming and a lot of those cool shows that
Speaker 1: you used to see back in the day on TV,
Speaker 1: you know, unsolved mysteries. There was a cool UFO show
Speaker 1: called Sightings. Oh man, there was a bunch of them
Speaker 1: back in the day that I used to follow. And
Speaker 1: and so I always had a feeling that there was
Speaker 1: more out there, and I still believe that till this day.
Speaker 1: I just I'm at a point, Steve, where I feel like,
Speaker 1: if you could think it, imagine it, it's probably has
Speaker 1: happened or or is happening somewhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like that every day.
Speaker 1: And and so yeah, So as the youth, I always, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, would keep an eye out for anything strange.
Speaker 1: I was always fascinated by like Ripley's and like the
Speaker 1: Guinness Book of Records and stuff. So always keeping an
Speaker 1: eye out for the strange and an ear out. And
Speaker 1: so I remember, yeah, a few times, you know, in
Speaker 1: the city seeing some weird stuff in the skies and
Speaker 1: and never anything like a disk or anything. It might
Speaker 1: have been some like weird lights and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But moving fast forward to now, uh once again, the technology.
Speaker 1: Now we got cameras and phones and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: And there's a few other topics that actually get into
Speaker 1: and you'll find on my page. But with those topics,
Speaker 1: I've been collecting different gadgets, cameras, thermal imaging and night
Speaker 1: vision and stuff like that, and just to help once
Speaker 1: again to document and to help present what we're capturing
Speaker 1: and what we're trying to express here. So with that,
Speaker 1: I've become not too bad with with the hitting that
Speaker 1: record button, you know. And and it's almost like a
Speaker 1: lot of times it's it's a feeling, you know, there's
Speaker 1: just these feelings I get sometimes and I hear others
Speaker 1: also share this, and you know, you'll look up and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, there's something there, you know. Or
Speaker 1: there's other times where you're just kind of scanning the skies,
Speaker 1: not much happening, and then boot something pops up and
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's just different ways. There's also the
Speaker 1: CE five method I've I've been out with a few
Speaker 1: UFO groups here locally who do like some meditation work
Speaker 1: to try and summon some of these craft or beings,
Speaker 1: and it's cool hanging out with them. I've gotten some
Speaker 1: really interesting experiences and documented some interesting stuff at those
Speaker 1: gatherings as well. And it just seems as of late
Speaker 1: because I was living in northern California and southern Oregon,
Speaker 1: but I had recently moved back to LA and even
Speaker 1: up north I was having experiences there. There was one
Speaker 1: particular property where I was having strange activity and these
Speaker 1: lights were popping up, these orbs of lights. So if
Speaker 1: you dig far enough back in some of my videos,
Speaker 1: you'll see where these lights, these orbs of lights were
Speaker 1: popping up on the property along with other strange activity.
Speaker 1: So there was stuff happening up there. And then I
Speaker 1: get down here to LA and been out here a
Speaker 1: few years, and the past couple of years it's just
Speaker 1: been almost like NonStop outside of the shop, where UH
Speaker 1: You're getting these weird UH anomalies and and weird objects
Speaker 1: in the skies and and some of them I believe
Speaker 1: could be UH mimicking certain objects that were used to
Speaker 1: already and know of. So for example, I think there's
Speaker 1: uh certain balloons that have been popping up in our
Speaker 1: area which looked like, you know, a party balloon or
Speaker 1: or your normal balloon, but it's not. It's not acting
Speaker 1: like a normal balloon. These things sometimes and they'll have
Speaker 1: like a tether on them and everything. Uh, but they
Speaker 1: tend to like uh sometimes they'll seem to disappear and appear.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: They're also seem to uh I don't want to say radiate,
Speaker 1: but it's almost like, uh, like a flashing. So imagine
Speaker 1: if you're looking at mylar balloon floating in the sky
Speaker 1: and the sun's hitting it, that flashing from the milar
Speaker 1: that's what it looks like. But I don't think it
Speaker 1: is all the time. And we do get balloon traffic,
Speaker 1: which is you know, it's also kind of a weird
Speaker 1: thing because there's interesting documentary that I've seen called Balloon Cold,
Speaker 1: and I recommend people checking that out. It's a two
Speaker 1: part documentary and it gets into these balloon type objects
Speaker 1: and some of these other anomalous objects I'll be talking about,
Speaker 1: and this guy kind of gives his perspective on it.
Speaker 1: And it's super cool because it's very different than the
Speaker 1: mainstream UFO stuff, which I really question, you know, I
Speaker 1: really questioned a lot of the mainstream stuff which I
Speaker 1: feel like I stay on top of. But it's it's
Speaker 1: a lot of it is not what I'm experiencing and
Speaker 1: what others that I know are experiencing. And so, yeah,
Speaker 1: some of these objects are sometimes once again these or
Speaker 1: so it'll look like these balloons but without the tether.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they are an odd shaped, like not quite perfectly
Speaker 1: round or spherical, and sometimes they are and they've come
Speaker 1: in different colors. And this is most of this footage
Speaker 1: is daytime, you know, and and yeah, we try to
Speaker 1: you know, weed out any stuff that could be uh,
Speaker 1: you know, trash or bugs. There's also these other objects
Speaker 1: that are seeming to show up along these other anomalies.
Speaker 1: And these objects seem like your typical like flying saucer
Speaker 1: and they zip by in the video. They're so fast
Speaker 1: sometimes you can't even see them. And so when I
Speaker 1: first started seeing those, I figured these are bugs or
Speaker 1: flies or something, right, And and I started slowing down
Speaker 1: the videos and I started noticing these very saucer shape.
Speaker 1: But then at times these things whatever it is, seems
Speaker 1: to have these like wings like a bug, but they're not,
Speaker 1: because these things are moving very very oddly, not like
Speaker 1: your typical insect fly or whatever. And they also tend
Speaker 1: to disappear, like appear disappear. It seems like they're like
Speaker 1: coming in and out of our reality almost, it's what
Speaker 1: it seems like. And these objects seem to be almost
Speaker 1: like monitoring anything that's flying, So basically anything like a balloon,
Speaker 1: an airplane, a helicopter, anything that's flying. You're pretty I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure that I could capture these things, and especially
Speaker 1: in out this area outside the shop and there goes
Speaker 1: the train and so it's something about the shop. So
Speaker 1: I've met with this other YouTuber that has really been
Speaker 1: looking into these and he's not too far away from
Speaker 1: where I am, and he's in Marina del Rey, and
Speaker 1: he's also noticed that these things possibly give off almost
Speaker 1: like a sound, like a clicking sound when they appear,
Speaker 1: and he believes that they are some sort of ufo
Speaker 1: uap and uh, and he calls them dragons dragon UFOs
Speaker 1: because he thought they were dragonflies at first, but they're
Speaker 1: you know, he's convinced that they're not. And I also
Speaker 1: don't think that uh, they're bugs, but they do look
Speaker 1: like it sometimes, but they're they're not. They's something strange
Speaker 1: about these things. And I could send you plenty of
Speaker 1: timestamp pictures, and like I said, there's plenty of videos
Speaker 1: posted as of late. There. I did capture one night
Speaker 1: vision video, and this people might find a little more
Speaker 1: cool because most of the times it's these orbs, these
Speaker 1: balloon type these uh, these dragon UFOs. But I did
Speaker 1: capture what looked like a triangle UFO craft and this
Speaker 1: was at nighttime and here here in Los Angeles, and
Speaker 1: this was just maybe a month ago, a few weeks ago,
Speaker 1: and so I don't know if this triangle was actually
Speaker 1: it looked like six maybe six different balls a light
Speaker 1: but in the formation of triangle, and so I don't
Speaker 1: know if those were separate objects or they were one
Speaker 1: solid mass object. And what came to mind is the
Speaker 1: tr three B. I believe it is, and it's an
Speaker 1: aircraft that we you know, that's ours, and so yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think people find that more fascinating
Speaker 1: than the orbs and the other stuff, which you know,
Speaker 1: I think the other stuff is a little more cool
Speaker 1: because I do believe that TRB three uh is our technology,
Speaker 1: possibly hybrid technology with with et, but I think those
Speaker 1: are definitely ours. But nice. It's really nice to see
Speaker 1: them fly by, and it was an awesome capture. And
Speaker 1: and that's my thing too, is to be able to document,
Speaker 1: you know, what it is we're doing, because I feel
Speaker 1: these days there's just so much talk once again in
Speaker 1: the mainstream, people you know, trying to figure out how
Speaker 1: to make a buck, and and there's a lot of money.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of money in this
Speaker 1: and that's not what I'm after, but people are making
Speaker 1: money and stuff like that. My thing is just to
Speaker 1: be able to capture these things on video and bring
Speaker 1: you know, whatever data back if possible, to to share
Speaker 1: with everyone out here, you know. But yeah, something definitely
Speaker 1: going on outside of the shop there because it seems
Speaker 1: to be a flight zone for lax traffic. And then
Speaker 1: what I've been noticing also is a whole lot of
Speaker 1: military traffic going by, so you're getting we're getting these choppers,
Speaker 1: different types apaches asprays. The other day for the first
Speaker 1: time I guess there was they're called the are they
Speaker 1: called the Giant stallions or something like that. I think
Speaker 1: it's h king stallions. And they were flying by that
Speaker 1: just it just gave this odd vibe.
Speaker 4: You know, it's like.
Speaker 1: Something's going on here. And so I've been capturing a
Speaker 1: lot of of that stuff as well. And you know,
Speaker 1: when they fly by, you're getting these odd things flying
Speaker 1: along with them. So I wonder it could be some
Speaker 1: of their technology, you know, maybe some sort of new
Speaker 1: tech that they got that it's just monitoring things. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I wonder, or could it be you know,
Speaker 1: et maybe there's a mother ship somewhere and they're sending
Speaker 1: down their little drones to monitor stuff. You know. That
Speaker 1: comes across my mine. So many questions with this also,
Speaker 1: But yeah, if you ever want to try and come
Speaker 1: and have a sighting, I can. You know, the possibilities
Speaker 1: are pretty high. I don't guarantee it, but yeah, come
Speaker 1: check out our shop and you know, things are happening there.
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of strange people around there too. Man,
Speaker 1: it makes me question some of it because we're close
Speaker 1: to downtown LA, and I wonder about some of these
Speaker 1: people sometimes. It makes me wonder if their teas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you never know, I've met some people like that before.
Speaker 2: Just let everybody know, what's the name of the shop
Speaker 2: and then where they can find him.
Speaker 1: Yes, we're located in East LA right at the border
Speaker 1: of Boyle Heights and East La on Olympic in Indiana,
Speaker 1: and it's called Sky's the Limits Smoke Shops, So it's
Speaker 1: a smoke shop, but we have skateboards, art supplies, clothing
Speaker 1: and all types of other stuff. We just recently got
Speaker 1: an alien painted in the front and with the UFO
Speaker 1: and and a bigfoot there, so you know, we're keeping
Speaker 1: the theme going along with the business here. But yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it's it's super odd. And you know LA has been
Speaker 1: known for it's a hot spot for the UFO stuff
Speaker 1: and the ET stuff. So it's not really surprising to
Speaker 1: me that all this is happening. What does surprise me
Speaker 1: a little is that, Yeah, I don't know. I feel
Speaker 1: like I wish I could get some maybe some so
Speaker 1: called experts out here to see what's really going on.
Speaker 1: You know, it'd be cool to have some some more
Speaker 1: professional people, maybe some people with some better gear or
Speaker 1: or just some some different ideas to see what we
Speaker 1: could do here. Even like some of the groups that
Speaker 1: I mentioned, I've mentioned to them about the activity there,
Speaker 1: and I've had one maybe two people come by and
Speaker 1: and yeah, things have happened, and but it'd be cool
Speaker 1: to have a whole group there. Maybe I might start
Speaker 1: my own little group on certain days and we'll have
Speaker 1: a night watch or day SkyWatch there, you know, and
Speaker 1: the people could come and buy snacks and drinks while
Speaker 1: they're at it there.
Speaker 2: That'd be cool. Get upon the roof or something and
Speaker 2: end the skies and see what you can see. I
Speaker 2: love stuff like that. Yeah, you mentioned the insects that
Speaker 2: aren't actually insects. I've heard of that before. I talked
Speaker 2: to a guy one time that claimed he was getting
Speaker 2: buzzed by a dragonfly that wasn't a dragonfly at all.
Speaker 2: He said it was mechanical, but it looked just like
Speaker 2: an actual dragonfly. So again, that's one of those things
Speaker 2: hiding in plain sight. What better way to spy on people,
Speaker 2: or whether aliens or some shadow government or you know,
Speaker 2: three letter agency or something. If you had something that
Speaker 2: looked like a bug, you know that nobody need pay
Speaker 2: attention to it most people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I do believe we have the capability, and
Speaker 1: it's probably already, like I said, it's probably already happening.
Speaker 2: Some kind of miniaturized, subminiaturize grown. Yeah, about the size
Speaker 2: of the dragonfly scary to think about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's interesting you said that this guy got buzzed.
Speaker 1: I had two people as of late. Actually one guy
Speaker 1: is a YouTuber and he's he's doing fascinating work. And
Speaker 1: actually I want to hook you guys up because of
Speaker 1: what he's doing, and it's he's capturing similar stuff and
Speaker 1: he's not far from where I am. So he's in
Speaker 1: the same area. We're getting the same activity, and he's
Speaker 1: he's just as good as capturing stuff, which is amazing.
Speaker 1: And and so it gives me kind of confirmation on
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. And uh, he would be he would
Speaker 1: be great for your your UFO show and even for
Speaker 1: this show. Absolutely, yeah, yeah, And so he was recently
Speaker 1: he recently posted a video about talking about that he
Speaker 1: got buzzed and he believes by one of these things
Speaker 1: and he felt that he felt it was a negative thing.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a good feeling, he said. And the funny
Speaker 1: thing is that I had another buddy that I mentioned
Speaker 1: this stuff to, and he talked about he showed a
Speaker 1: friend and he said that his friend feels like he
Speaker 1: got buzzed by one of these things. And so I'm
Speaker 1: getting all this feedback now about people being buzzed by
Speaker 1: these things.
Speaker 2: Again, it's frightening to think about because we know we
Speaker 2: have the micro technology to be able to build things
Speaker 2: like that. And again, how many times have you had
Speaker 2: some kind of bug just come out of nowhere, either
Speaker 2: a bee or a fly or something like that, and
Speaker 2: just get right in your face like it's been sent,
Speaker 2: you know, to vex you. So I don't know. I
Speaker 2: think there might be some credence to that there. And
Speaker 2: again that's one of those out there theories, but who knows.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't put it past the powers that be to do
Speaker 2: something like that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and to give people an idea. Back in
Speaker 1: the day, there was these things and it's funny because
Speaker 1: it they kind of faded out of the scene, but
Speaker 1: there was these objects called rods as well.
Speaker 2: Rods. Yeah, I thought about that earlier when you were
Speaker 2: talking about I haven't heard anything about that. They tried
Speaker 2: to debunk it and stuff, but if you look at
Speaker 2: the video, it sure looks like something that's not supposed
Speaker 2: to be.
Speaker 1: There, right, So it's very similar to these things. And
Speaker 1: some people say that that's what these things are, but
Speaker 1: it I think there's several other objects that are very
Speaker 1: similar to the rods as well that are doing the
Speaker 1: same thing. They're just zipping by super fast. And now
Speaker 1: with our phones here, you know, bumping up in camera quality,
Speaker 1: were able to capture these things. And so yeah, we're
Speaker 1: gonna keep digging it and try to, you know, find
Speaker 1: out what we can. And it's another interesting thing. There
Speaker 1: was a TikToker man. I forget what state he was in,
Speaker 1: but he was showing a bug, a mechanical bug like
Speaker 1: you were describing and saying that this thing, yeah he
Speaker 1: had I guess it buzzed him and somehow he got
Speaker 1: a hold of it and he was showing it off.
Speaker 1: And who knows if it's really real. I mean, it
Speaker 1: could be something he just put together and is you know,
Speaker 1: making this stuff up. But it looked, it looks interesting
Speaker 1: and we were in touch for a bit. I haven't
Speaker 1: been on on TikTok much, but uh, yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff going on over on that platform too.
Speaker 1: You know, on every platform there's there's the you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta weigh the stuff out, and then TikTok is
Speaker 1: one of them. But there is some good stuff going
Speaker 1: on over there too, So yeah, I definitely want to
Speaker 1: get back in touch with that guy and see if
Speaker 1: he's gotten any recent information on those things.
Speaker 2: No, have you ever heard anything about giant and.
Speaker 1: Giant insects? No, not really. But what I have heard
Speaker 1: of keeping on this topic is that possibly some of
Speaker 1: these aerial anomalies could be actual beings themselves, So like
Speaker 1: these things that we're seeing in the sky could be
Speaker 1: actual creatures themselves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I heard that theory. Well, the reason I asked.
Speaker 2: When I lived briefly in Vancouver, Washington, had a roommate
Speaker 2: that went outside to smoke one time about it was
Speaker 2: about two or three o'clock in the morning. She was
Speaker 2: out on the porch having her cigarette and something moved
Speaker 2: between her and the street light. And she looked and
Speaker 2: she said, and she was smoking a regular cigarette, nothing
Speaker 2: funny there. She said that there was a praying mantis
Speaker 2: that was as tall as the street light and it
Speaker 2: was blocking the light out. And she said it was
Speaker 2: the scariest looking thing she'd ever say. You know, if
Speaker 2: you look at praying man it's they're kind of weird
Speaker 2: look anyway. But she said this thing had to be
Speaker 2: like ten twelve feet tall. Whatever the street light was there.
Speaker 2: She ran into the house to get the camera, and
Speaker 2: of course when she came back out, it was gone.
Speaker 2: But I don't know, that's weird. That would scare the
Speaker 2: pants off me if I saw it. Oh yeah, Raham
Speaker 2: manis or spider. There's a guy I know in East Tennessee,
Speaker 2: up in the Northern Timpa, East Tennessee a place called
Speaker 2: Roan Mountain where they've seen a fireball and there's all
Speaker 2: kinds of hauntings and stuff up there. He told me
Speaker 2: he could take me to a cave where there resides
Speaker 2: a spider as big as a house cat. He said,
Speaker 2: Now I'm talking about the body of the spider as
Speaker 2: big as his cat. That's not counting the legs and stuff.
Speaker 2: And I took a hard pass on that one. I
Speaker 2: don't like spiders, and I especially don't want to come
Speaker 2: across one as big as a cat in a cave.
Speaker 1: Yikes. Yeah, no, yep, But the man did. It's a thing,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, we've gotten into some of these
Speaker 1: different genres and stuff of cryptids and aliens and the
Speaker 1: de manted it does come up, you know, the insectoid
Speaker 1: type of ets that come in different sizes, and possibly
Speaker 1: even the grays being some sort of type of insect light,
Speaker 1: you know, being it's possible. I think it's it's who knows,
Speaker 1: but yeah, definitely creepy. And yeah, there's something about these
Speaker 1: ets and and the way to describe sometimes a lot
Speaker 1: of them will get referred to like insects and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. It is very bizarre.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes you wonder. The weirdest thing I've had
Speaker 2: happened recently. It's been a couple of years ago now.
Speaker 2: It's when I was living in the Hetas in New
Speaker 2: Mexico and there was a kind of flap going on
Speaker 2: about these Chinese weather balloons that they were seeing everywhere
Speaker 2: in coast to coast. Well, I had this garden shed
Speaker 2: out back, but what it was it was an aluminum
Speaker 2: frame with like a tarp material stretched over it in
Speaker 2: the shape of a greenhouse. And I went out there
Speaker 2: one morning and it was gone. It was just gone
Speaker 2: out of the backyard. I went around in a couple
Speaker 2: mile radius with a friend of mine looking for it.
Speaker 2: I looked in in all the neighbor's backyards and even
Speaker 2: went down by the river and then looked down there.
Speaker 2: Of course, that it had gotten in the river, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't have found it anyway. Well, a week to the
Speaker 2: day later, I got up, went outside my garden. Shed
Speaker 2: is back, but the back end of it is caught
Speaker 2: in a tree, and I don't even know how to
Speaker 2: discover it. I've got pictures of it. And I was
Speaker 2: out there trying to get to the rear of it
Speaker 2: down out of the tree, and the neighbors over the
Speaker 2: backside of the fence there. Their granddaughter was vis and
Speaker 2: she was so I said, eight years old. Itnch pops
Speaker 2: her head up over the fence and I said, did
Speaker 2: this come out of your backyard? Did you see what happened?
Speaker 2: She's pointed up and said it came from up there.
Speaker 2: And there was some other little kids there playing with her,
Speaker 2: and they agreed they had watched it fall out of
Speaker 2: the sky. They said it was just like looked real tiny.
Speaker 2: They saw something in the sky and it came down
Speaker 2: almost in the footprint of where it had sat, except
Speaker 2: for the rear end of it. They got caught in
Speaker 2: the tree and the top of it was blown out.
Speaker 2: I mean there was a hole in it. And I
Speaker 2: was wondering if like the wind took it up and
Speaker 2: maybe a fighter jet or something shot it down. And
Speaker 2: then my other neighbors said, you need to paint. Take
Speaker 2: a can of spray paint and paint not a Chinese
Speaker 2: weather balloon on the side of it, so if it
Speaker 2: takes off again, they won't shoot it down. But that's
Speaker 2: one of the most mysterious things that's ever happened to
Speaker 2: me like that. I mean, for something to be gone
Speaker 2: a week and then end up, like I said, almost
Speaker 2: exactly where it was sitting, except the back end of
Speaker 2: what that was caught in a tree branch. Uh, just
Speaker 2: bottles of mind. But I think I wish I'd had
Speaker 2: a go pro attached to that brown door. Wouldn't that
Speaker 2: have been some amazing footage?
Speaker 1: Oh man?
Speaker 2: Not us see what took this thing up and how
Speaker 2: what shot it and got it back down or why
Speaker 2: there was a big hole in it.
Speaker 1: That is weird. That is a trip, but a true story,
Speaker 1: I believe you believe. Oh man, No, that that's one
Speaker 1: for the books for sure.
Speaker 2: Have you ever had anything happen like that? Anything, uh,
Speaker 2: airport or teleport or now I know I've seen some
Speaker 2: lights in the sky and things that did that just
Speaker 2: kind of be there and then not be there. And uh,
Speaker 2: I've seen the famous Brown Mountain lights in Brown Mountain,
Speaker 2: North Carolina. That was very interesting. Have you ever seen
Speaker 2: any of those aero phenomena like that. Some people try
Speaker 2: to say it's reflections or swamp gas or that other,
Speaker 2: but until you've seen it and experienced it, and even
Speaker 2: then it defies any explanation. But it's obviously not a reflection.
Speaker 2: It's obviously not you know, some kind of swamp gas
Speaker 2: or pisio electric activity or something like that. They moved
Speaker 2: with some intelligence, either self contained or something intelligent is
Speaker 2: controlling them. First time I saw them, I was on
Speaker 2: the other side of Wiseman's Gorge and I thought it
Speaker 2: looked like somebody with a light running around in the
Speaker 2: trees over there, And I thought, ah, that's just silly looking.
Speaker 2: And I ended up spending the night little camping here there,
Speaker 2: and the next morning I could see across the gorge
Speaker 2: there and the place where I saw the lights among
Speaker 2: the trees, it was like sheer cliff bases. There was
Speaker 2: no way anybody could run around in those trees. Those
Speaker 2: trees were growing on little ledges or there were just
Speaker 2: enough room for the tree. Never seen any of those
Speaker 2: miss lights or spoke lights.
Speaker 1: Yep, that's exactly the types of lights that I was
Speaker 1: mentioning earlier that we were having up in northern California
Speaker 1: on the property. So these the property. We're up in
Speaker 1: the hills of southern Humble, right right near where this
Speaker 1: Netflix documentary called You might have to leap this out,
Speaker 1: but Murder Mountain, Okay, that's that's a whole other show
Speaker 1: there too, Steve, whenever you want, but you can.
Speaker 2: Say whatever you want on here. But yeah, I've spent
Speaker 2: some time up there when I was I was living
Speaker 2: in Oregon. I'm driven down to San Francisco, stopped at
Speaker 2: Mount Shasta for a couple of days, and then came
Speaker 2: back up that way through you know where the legend
Speaker 2: of Bigfoot. Yep, there the Golden toilet. What else is
Speaker 2: in that area? You know where I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the Northern Mendocinos. So you keep going
Speaker 1: north on one on one there, and I know exactly
Speaker 1: that toilet and the legend of big Foot, that that
Speaker 1: little area. I've gotten report sightings from there actually, And
Speaker 1: so you keep going north and then you'll hit the
Speaker 1: eventually the town of Small town of Garberville and up
Speaker 1: in the hills of Garberville is eventually you'll hit the
Speaker 1: town alder Point and that's where the Murder Mountain is
Speaker 1: based out of anyway, we're a few hills over basically
Speaker 1: in that community though, and the property was forty acres,
Speaker 1: so we had forty acres there and are sorry nearest
Speaker 1: neighbors were all spread about.
Speaker 4: And this.
Speaker 1: Community there, we were in a in a gated community,
Speaker 1: so you needed a pass code to get in. And
Speaker 1: it's dirt roads, like I said, pretty pretty heavily forested.
Speaker 1: And I've had some strange things happen there pertaining to Bigfoot.
Speaker 1: And once again another show, So we're gonna have some
Speaker 1: more shows here. See.
Speaker 2: Yeah, have you ever been up to Mount Shasta? Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'd like to, and again that's another show for sure,
Speaker 2: but I'd love to hear about some of your experiences there.
Speaker 2: I had some strange things happen up there, and Shasta
Speaker 2: is just one of those places. It's a vortex or
Speaker 2: an energy spot, power spot. I've heard people say it's
Speaker 2: like an international UFO landing zone there, the international flight
Speaker 2: deck for UFOs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, you've done quite quite a bit. I'd
Speaker 1: love your series on the Shasta legends and stuff you
Speaker 1: really love, and.
Speaker 2: I'd love to go back up there too. My wife's
Speaker 2: never been out west, and maybe when our son's a
Speaker 2: little bit bigger, we'll have to take that trip. But
Speaker 2: I love Shasta and that whole area.
Speaker 1: Yes, Stephen, if you do, if and when you do
Speaker 1: come out, please let me know because I'd love to
Speaker 1: go there with you. That that'd be epic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be great. And I've already got plans to
Speaker 2: buy them a skateboard from your shop too, especially if
Speaker 2: you have like some of the from Meyer I used
Speaker 2: to ride, like the pool boards, the pig boards. Yeah,
Speaker 2: set them up with an Alba deck with Andy trucks.
Speaker 2: And do they still make Kryptonic s wheels? That's how
Speaker 2: far I've been out of it. I don't know what.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen them. I know the Kryptonic wheels, and
Speaker 1: I remember you telling me a little bit of your
Speaker 1: skateboarding history too, which is really cool. But yeah, no,
Speaker 1: we have some of those old cool type boards and
Speaker 1: you know, different types of boards, small ones, longboards and
Speaker 1: different types. So we'll definitely hook you up. But yeah,
Speaker 1: back to those lights on the property is very much
Speaker 1: like the brown mountain lights. Like you're describing these things.
Speaker 1: I would see these things float through the woods. I've
Speaker 1: seen them on the ground shoot up into the sky
Speaker 1: and vice versa. I've seen them drop out of the sky.
Speaker 1: They'll look like stars sometimes. And these things will also
Speaker 1: like pulsate and dim out out, disappear, reappear, And it
Speaker 1: looks like at first when I first seen them, I
Speaker 1: thought it was somebody on the property with the headlamp
Speaker 1: or something, and they were moving around. And because these
Speaker 1: things tend to almost like I like to describe it
Speaker 1: as like a if you were to put some wind
Speaker 1: under a whiffle ball, it always has it has this
Speaker 1: like weird, almost like dancing type movement.
Speaker 2: To it, and exactly kind of bobbles along. It doesn't
Speaker 2: follow up straight path. It just kind of like you said,
Speaker 2: like a whiffle ball, and it was kind of slow,
Speaker 2: but there's curves, there's little nuances to it.
Speaker 1: And I've seen these things like most of the time
Speaker 1: and has this blue like star white color to it,
Speaker 1: but I've seen it change multiple colors too. I describe
Speaker 1: it as like when you get the flower power and
Speaker 1: Mario brothers and you start changing all those psychedelic colors.
Speaker 2: Good analogy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so these things were popping up almost on
Speaker 1: the nightly basis, and I began documenting these things, and
Speaker 1: a lot of times I would be on my own
Speaker 1: out there too. I'd be by myself and in the
Speaker 1: woods in these lights, and it would get a little
Speaker 1: creepy sometimes because I was very much familiar with the
Speaker 1: Missing four eleven phenomenon at the time and the people
Speaker 1: going missing and stuff, and I'm like, well, what if
Speaker 1: these things are one of the things that are causing this?
Speaker 1: And so I would take my little breaks from recording,
Speaker 1: you know, because I almost felt like this telepathic connection
Speaker 1: to it. I'm not I'm not saying I'm a telepath,
Speaker 1: but I would almost communicate with this stuff, you know.
Speaker 1: It was almost like I would ask it questions and
Speaker 1: and but I'd never had anything negative happen to me.
Speaker 1: I've heard of people like, you know, they say don't
Speaker 1: follow those things and that their spirits, and I've heard different,
Speaker 1: many different theories about it. But there's also the topic
Speaker 1: of Bigfoot coming up along these strange lights, which really
Speaker 1: made me get into the whole Bigfoot topic. Even deeper
Speaker 1: than I was at the moment, because I was having
Speaker 1: other strange activity like trees breaking and wood knocking sound
Speaker 1: stuff that people pertained the Bigfoot, along with these lights
Speaker 1: on the property. So yeah, yeah, very very strange stuff.
Speaker 1: And there was one time where it seemed like a
Speaker 1: bunch of them landed on the property, but this time
Speaker 1: they were orange, and it just looked like almost like
Speaker 1: a fire on the ground. And I remember waking up.
Speaker 1: Something had woke me up out of my sleep, and
Speaker 1: it's like three in the morning, and for some reason,
Speaker 1: I looked outside, because I would look out odd times
Speaker 1: at the night and I would spot these these lights
Speaker 1: and then you know, I would start recording them. And
Speaker 1: so this time I was sleeping, I suddenly woke up
Speaker 1: because of something. Something woke me up, and I look
Speaker 1: out the window and I noticed this cluster of orange
Speaker 1: on the ground way down below. Like it was weird
Speaker 1: the way the house was set up, but we had
Speaker 1: this lower tier of the property, and way down at
Speaker 1: the lower tiers where this activity was happening, it looked
Speaker 1: like a fire. And like up there, when you if
Speaker 1: you see fire smoke, you better get on it, you know,
Speaker 1: because you know you know how the fires up are
Speaker 1: up that way, and so yeah, I recorded this thing
Speaker 1: and it just looked like a mass of these like
Speaker 1: orbs and it was the oddest thing. And then my
Speaker 1: cat jumped on me and kind of ruined the recording there.
Speaker 1: But I did capture that, you know. So yeah, if
Speaker 1: anyone ever wants to check that particular video out, like
Speaker 1: I said, I've got so many different little videos posted
Speaker 1: that it. Everything's kind of I want to say, drowning
Speaker 1: in my channel there. You kind of got to dig
Speaker 1: for these things. But if someone in particular wants to
Speaker 1: look that up, they could always leave me a message
Speaker 1: and I could repost that in the community page. But
Speaker 1: like I said earlier, with the new gear and stuff,
Speaker 1: I want to be able to go through a lot
Speaker 1: of my videos and and kind of do these breakdowns
Speaker 1: live with people to see what else we could learn
Speaker 1: from all this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be fascinating. Now, I've watched some of your
Speaker 2: videos there that you released. But do you also do
Speaker 2: occasional live streams and things like that as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. I try to go live as much as possible,
Speaker 1: especially if there's something happening at the moment. I mean
Speaker 1: sometimes you'll get random stuff, we car accidents outside the shop,
Speaker 1: SpaceX launches, you know, just anything that.
Speaker 2: I like, just whatever is going on moment. I love that.
Speaker 1: I love yeah, some raw real life.
Speaker 2: I think one time I just missed when you'd been
Speaker 2: live and I went to go in there and watch
Speaker 2: and it was just the replay. But it's still You've
Speaker 2: got just some cool stuff over there, just the UFO
Speaker 2: footage and things alone and UFO UAP whatever you want
Speaker 2: to call it. And then, speaking of that, what do
Speaker 2: you think the purpose was? I mean, there's been the
Speaker 2: UFOs since time memorial to me, and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, now it's UAPs. Any idea why the media,
Speaker 2: the powers that be, why for the sudden switch to
Speaker 2: from UFO to u A P. I think it's some
Speaker 2: kind of neural linguistic programming. What's your thoughts on that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I believe so too. I also think, Yeah, with everything
Speaker 1: happening as of late, you know, do you have congressional hearings.
Speaker 4: You have.
Speaker 1: Whistleblowers and all this stuff happening, I feel like they
Speaker 1: maybe want to stir things up more for people confused,
Speaker 1: because people are already confused. We don't know what the
Speaker 1: heck's going on? People are out there claiming they know
Speaker 1: and and and this is its real a confusing thing.
Speaker 1: And I think to stir things up even more, they're
Speaker 1: gonna throw some more letters and acronyms and all that
Speaker 1: to just confuse people even more.
Speaker 2: There's more alphabet soup.
Speaker 6: Yeah and uh.
Speaker 1: And I do believe there is a difference between UFOs.
Speaker 1: I believe in the traditional I like to still call
Speaker 1: them UFOs, which I believe might be you know, those
Speaker 1: are e T you know, unknown.
Speaker 2: Non human, the flying saucer type, so you call them
Speaker 2: wa day.
Speaker 1: Right, and the UAP nowadays, which still could be.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I believe there's different types of weird anomalies and phenomenon
Speaker 1: and that could fall under that. But I think for
Speaker 1: the most part, they're using the UAP to describe made
Speaker 1: or hybrid craft man in et hybrid craft. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so. So when I hear UAP, that's in my mind,
Speaker 1: I think of man made or hybrid craft as to
Speaker 1: where UFO is more of a ET one hundred.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody said, now I don't necessarily buy into this,
Speaker 2: that that was they were trying to different distance themselves
Speaker 2: from the typical UFO crowd. You know, there's some some
Speaker 2: wild people there. Let me tell you, you're talking about
Speaker 2: some of the strange people that you meet outside on
Speaker 2: the streets there in LA. There's some strange attendees at
Speaker 2: UFO conferences. There are some very very unusual people that
Speaker 2: I met at the one I spoke at in San Francisco.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're bad people. They're just very, very different.
Speaker 2: They're definitely march to the beat of their own drum
Speaker 2: and kind of do their own thing. But there is
Speaker 2: I mean, we're talking abductees and stuff.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: It was a curious mix of people.
Speaker 1: I bet, especially being in San Francisco. That's you know,
Speaker 1: that's one once again, like LA one of those places
Speaker 1: where you know, you just have a melting pot of
Speaker 1: different types of people and and just a lot of
Speaker 1: bizarre stuff going on there.
Speaker 2: A lot of the Old World architecture there too. I
Speaker 2: think I mentioned it earlier, but the Palace for the
Speaker 2: Fine Art there, and uh, there's several places that I
Speaker 2: got to visit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And one thing I forgot to mention going back
Speaker 1: to the Old World stuff, is that looking into some
Speaker 1: of these buildings, I started finding out that a lot
Speaker 1: of scientology buildings are possibly Old World as well. And
Speaker 1: San Francisco has a beautiful one.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then also one of the lists I was
Speaker 2: looking at it had the Mormon Temple there in Utah
Speaker 2: as an example.
Speaker 1: Oh wow. Yeah, now that the surprise me.
Speaker 2: And everywhere. I mean, and it's not just in North America.
Speaker 2: I mean there's a list here that I found online
Speaker 2: all these different countries in continents and things. There's examples
Speaker 2: of it everywhere. And the more I look into it,
Speaker 2: the more I study about the things, the more I'm
Speaker 2: convinced that there's something to all of it. I don't
Speaker 2: think we have all the information yet to totally unravel it,
Speaker 2: but there's I don't know. Just like you were saying earlier,
Speaker 2: it doesn't feel right. There's a strange energy there, a
Speaker 2: dark energy. These places feel on it or maybe like
Speaker 2: a liminal space or something.
Speaker 1: And what one place I want to recommend too that
Speaker 1: I hear is fascinating in it, And just by the
Speaker 1: little bit that I've looked at that is full of
Speaker 1: some of this Old World stuff is Budapest. So check
Speaker 1: out Budapest, you guys.
Speaker 2: And one more thing I wanted to ask about. A
Speaker 2: couple of years ago, I made a video about this
Speaker 2: strange thing going on, called The Hiding Man of Griffith Park,
Speaker 2: and you actually went out there boots on the ground
Speaker 2: and looked around maybe more than once. Did you ever
Speaker 2: find anything or see any of those strange posters that
Speaker 2: are supposed to be up out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still looking for a couple of those posters
Speaker 1: for a Steve. But yeah, no, I was once again
Speaker 1: you went into this whole. Even your series on Griffith
Speaker 1: Park Lose Fellies was amazing.
Speaker 2: Kurts and hauntings and phantoms on horseback and then had
Speaker 2: the haunted picnic table there where the couple were, the
Speaker 2: amorous couple killed by following tree branch and stuff. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff going on in Griffith Park. You
Speaker 2: got the old La Zoo out there. You got the
Speaker 2: Observatory that's the scene, and the Rebel without a Cause,
Speaker 2: the Back Cave, the original.
Speaker 1: Bat Cave yep and us.
Speaker 2: Is there, and the Andy Griffiths show where they're walking
Speaker 2: along going to the fishing hole or whatever that was
Speaker 2: built in Griffith Park. It has as a storied place
Speaker 2: with an incredible history.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then so the hiding man thing came out
Speaker 1: and it's become an urban legend now and and but
Speaker 1: I do believe there's something to it because going back
Speaker 1: once again, these strange characters and people that you find
Speaker 1: here in this in the city, and so a lot
Speaker 1: of of the home you know, the homeless issue is
Speaker 1: a big thing out here, just like everywhere else. But
Speaker 1: it seems to be an epic senate here and they've
Speaker 1: been doing a lot of cleanups and stuff. But yeah,
Speaker 1: long Griffith Park, you have the La River and a
Speaker 1: lot of these people have been pushed out towards that way,
Speaker 1: and so with that you're gonna have all types of
Speaker 1: different uh activity going on. And one uh story that
Speaker 1: I came across my way was about this this hiding
Speaker 1: man and and yeah, that this guy was leaving these
Speaker 1: strange letters throughout the trailheads of the park and and
Speaker 1: they were very bizarre and some of them very detailed,
Speaker 1: talking about once again underground tunnels connecting from here we
Speaker 1: go again. You mentioned Burbank earlier, from Burbank to Griffith
Speaker 1: Park and that to be careful and that threatening. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they were threatening hikers or anyone ever
Speaker 1: got hurt or anything like that, but it was a
Speaker 1: big thing. A lot of hikers were on edge and
Speaker 1: people were on edge, and things have kind of calmed
Speaker 1: down there, you know. I haven't heard anything else as
Speaker 1: of late, but it's definitely something I want to go
Speaker 1: back to continue looking into because I do believe there's
Speaker 1: something going on there, especially because he had those descriptions
Speaker 1: of the underground tunnels and stuff, so I think there's
Speaker 1: something to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of my favorite videos that I ever
Speaker 2: researched and made, and especially looking into the history of
Speaker 2: Griffith Park again the Los Fielas there and going back
Speaker 2: to all that. That's another one of those areas. It's
Speaker 2: just it feels different.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. And and there's actually there's a Merry goround
Speaker 1: in the backside of Griffith Park that people if you
Speaker 1: know Griffith Park, you know the Merry Grounds. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: there's it's something about that Merry Grounds. Who I believe
Speaker 1: it's haunted. But there's been several murders and suicides there lately,
Speaker 1: so I don't know what's been happening, what's up with
Speaker 1: that little area, But it's just as of late, there's
Speaker 1: been some really creepy murders and suicides. One was I
Speaker 1: believe a guy was found hung from a tree there
Speaker 1: and set on fire. And so it's like, yeah, what's
Speaker 1: happening here? Is is it, uh you know, just people
Speaker 1: doing this or is it something more sinister? You know,
Speaker 1: because all the other paranormal stuff comes to mind, and yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very very weird.
Speaker 2: Now have you ever been up to look at the
Speaker 2: Hollywood sign there on Mount Lee?
Speaker 1: You know what, I've never grown growing up in I
Speaker 1: never did that. I had a view from my window
Speaker 1: I could see the Hollywood letters because I was right
Speaker 1: off of Western Wilton Hollywood Boulevard in Sunseales, right, you know,
Speaker 1: right there. And come to find out, I grew up
Speaker 1: in the apartments next to where Bella Lugosi. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: Bella Lugosi used to live back in the day. So
Speaker 1: that was interesting because the reason why I found out
Speaker 1: that it was there was this hearst that would come
Speaker 1: by our block and it would always stopped. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what it was that I never knew until recently, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, why why would they always stop here?
Speaker 1: And I found that someone someone had made a little
Speaker 1: video on it, and they're like, yeah, billah Lagosi used
Speaker 1: to live in this building.
Speaker 2: Here what back in the day. I've done that Dearly
Speaker 2: Departed tour a lot. And then the guy that ran
Speaker 2: the tour used to have a museum too, And I
Speaker 2: don't know if either one of the museum or the
Speaker 2: tour exists anymore, but it was. It was amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe it's it should be the Hollywood Death Museum.
Speaker 1: It probably is. Yeah, okay, wow.
Speaker 2: And just there's a lot of dark history out there too.
Speaker 2: You know, Peggett Whistle famously jumped off the h and
Speaker 2: the Hollywood Sign. And then I think there's a restaurant
Speaker 2: there called o Kyoto, I think it's the name of
Speaker 2: it that where oh the man's a murdered victim, Sharon Tate,
Speaker 2: where they have their last meal. I've eaten there before.
Speaker 2: It sat in the boat where they sat that night.
Speaker 2: And there's just so much out there. Oh yeah, the
Speaker 2: Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel and oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I went to Hollywood High School right right, that's
Speaker 1: right across the street from the Roosevelt.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, did you go to high school with anybody
Speaker 2: that went on to be famous? Yeah?
Speaker 1: There was one young singer, a black singer by the
Speaker 1: name of Brandy. I don't know if you remember Brandy, remember, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so she she went to school there while we did.
Speaker 1: And there was a couple other young singers also that
Speaker 1: were getting their name known. I forget their names, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I didn't see them any anything anytime after
Speaker 1: high school. But they were doing their thing during high school.
Speaker 1: But of course, you know, there's a bunch of old
Speaker 1: people that went there. Carol Burnett I could remember off
Speaker 1: the top. Who else. There's a few other people, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember going to school with Brandy, but on the
Speaker 1: opposite and uh Marshall High School, which is our rival
Speaker 1: to Hollywood High School. Well, I was going to high school.
Speaker 1: Leonardo DiCaprio was going to uh Marshall.
Speaker 2: High where Greece was filmed. I think maybe, oh I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't doubt it. And you know what I was
Speaker 1: looking at even I think it was today. So I
Speaker 1: was seeing a video of Marshall High and it's a
Speaker 1: big old brick building. I'm sure it's an old worlder.
Speaker 2: And a lot of the schools and things I find
Speaker 2: said it was like schools cathedrals, libraries, theaters, and there's
Speaker 2: something to all this, buddy. We're gonna unravel it at
Speaker 2: some point.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think we're getting it in in in
Speaker 1: nice increments and and yeah, I just feel like just
Speaker 1: tapping into the right sources. You know, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people doing a lot of good work, and yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just a matter of tapping in with them, supporting them,
Speaker 1: and you know, like you're doing helping me out here.
Speaker 1: I greatly appreciate that, and that's very motivating for me
Speaker 1: to get back out there. There's so much I want
Speaker 1: to do. And actually there's a few things I want
Speaker 1: to touch base with you with and I feel like
Speaker 1: maybe doing what I do and doing what you do,
Speaker 1: maybe we could put together something, okay, and yeah, it'd
Speaker 1: be cool maybe to present for people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be interested in any kind of collaboration you
Speaker 2: can take.
Speaker 1: It sounds good. Yeah, And like I said, as of late,
Speaker 1: there there's several things I'm working on. We recently had
Speaker 1: gone up to the Angelus National Forest here and that's
Speaker 1: another are which is very close I mean to us,
Speaker 1: it's like twenty minutes from here, and it's once again
Speaker 1: right by JPL you know JPL and NASA. They're at
Speaker 1: the foothills of the Angelus San Gabriel Mountains here and
Speaker 1: there's a lot of weird, creepy history there too, with
Speaker 1: the kids missing, a lot of missing people of course,
Speaker 1: strange lights and anomalies in the skies, and there's actually
Speaker 1: southern California has some bigfoot reports and some of them
Speaker 1: are out of here, out of the Angelus National Forest.
Speaker 1: So we went to go check out this area of
Speaker 1: a report from ninety five and we ended up camping
Speaker 1: overnight and I was with my nephew and brother and
Speaker 1: we captured something on the thermal camera. Steve. It's super
Speaker 1: interesting and it looks like possibly the target we're looking for.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if you've seen that yet. I
Speaker 1: posted the video, but it's a subject and it's right
Speaker 1: near a tree, the base of a tree, very humanoid looking.
Speaker 1: And eventually my nephew is the one using the camera
Speaker 1: the first time using it, and so he points at
Speaker 1: what he's recording, and when he pointed at it, soon
Speaker 1: after that, the subject ducks behind the tree and we're
Speaker 1: like whoa. And so I'll get that footage over to
Speaker 1: you so you could get a copy for you to analyze,
Speaker 1: but that is posted off the channel. Yeah, check that out.
Speaker 1: And so we did a follow up and we're trying
Speaker 1: to figure out where the where this all took place
Speaker 1: because this was at night and we're a little confused
Speaker 1: on where exactly this was. But we did return. Not
Speaker 1: much happened on the return, but I will be posting
Speaker 1: that follow up and we're going to continue going up
Speaker 1: there to investigate and see what this might have been
Speaker 1: and to see if there's more activity up there.
Speaker 2: Good deal. Well, yeah, definitely stay in touch and any
Speaker 2: kind of collaboration here you'd like to do, just just
Speaker 2: let me know. And I'm in well Rondorf. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go ahead and wrap this up here for tonight. Any
Speaker 2: parting words, any anything else you want to say to
Speaker 2: the people, and again let them know where they can
Speaker 2: find you on YouTube and in real life at your
Speaker 2: your skating smoke shop there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, once again, I want to thank you, Steve.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: It's it's an honor and and like I said, a blessing.
Speaker 1: This is a big you know, it's be uh on
Speaker 1: here talking to you like this. Uh, this is one
Speaker 1: for my books for sure, and hopefully we continue to
Speaker 1: do this. Yeah, Sky's the Limit Smoke Shop, East LA
Speaker 1: thirty nine East Olympic Boulevard. Yeah, and then you could
Speaker 1: reach me at my YouTube channel at Brown Underscore Dwarf
Speaker 1: and my handle is at b D four two zero zero.
Speaker 2: Good deal. Well, once again, thanks for joining us here,
Speaker 2: looking forward to whatever we get into in the future.
Speaker 2: Here been a wonderful guest and said, you were the
Speaker 2: one that really turned me on to this topic. And
Speaker 2: I love that. And when somebody brings up something that
Speaker 2: I'm not really familiar with and sends me off on
Speaker 2: a wild ghost chase or a hunt down rabbit holes,
Speaker 2: and that's what this old world stuff has been. And
Speaker 2: there's something to it. That was the fascinating part. Again,
Speaker 2: hiding in plaining sight. I just never really paid that
Speaker 2: much attention to it. But then when you start digging
Speaker 2: and looking into it and seeing all the examples and
Speaker 2: all the places and hearing the stories behind it, something
Speaker 2: ain't right. And let's see if we can't get to
Speaker 2: the bottom of it. Brother.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, you take care of Steve and you know
Speaker 1: anything you need, man, I'm.
Speaker 2: Here, bro say sorry and stay in touch. All right, folks,
Speaker 2: We're gonna wrap it up this episode of everything out there,
Speaker 2: I guess it's been Brown Dwarf. I'll link to the
Speaker 2: skate shop and the YouTube channel and the show notes
Speaker 2: on behalf of Brown Dwarf and myself see everybody a
Speaker 2: little farther on down the trail. Tell your animals we
Speaker 2: said hi. Good night everybody,