WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:05.080 I you know, I'm Jewish, but I'm an American. I 2 00:00:05.240 --> 00:00:10.320 believe in America in my core, and there are no 3 00:00:10.439 --> 00:00:13.519 chosen people in America. That's the thing. If America is 4 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:16.480 actually going to function, the point is what we get 5 00:00:16.640 --> 00:00:19.000 is a level playing field. Is it ever going to 6 00:00:19.000 --> 00:00:19.800 be perfectly leveled? 7 00:00:19.960 --> 00:00:20.039 No? 8 00:00:20.280 --> 00:00:22.679 But what we should want, what we should all collaborate 9 00:00:22.719 --> 00:00:25.440 on as Americans, is a level playing field in which 10 00:00:25.480 --> 00:00:29.280 nobody has special access, nobody has special protections, and we 11 00:00:29.320 --> 00:00:32.640 don't need them. That's that's the objective of the exercise. 12 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:36.719 And you can say, well, Brett, you're being naive, but 13 00:00:37.159 --> 00:00:40.320 I don't think so. And you know, if that's the argument, 14 00:00:40.439 --> 00:00:43.399 if that's the argument, is that America is naive, then 15 00:00:43.520 --> 00:00:46.320 let's have it out. Let's have that conversation. I'm fully 16 00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:50.880 ready for it. But let us not pretend that America 17 00:00:50.960 --> 00:00:53.719 works and then quietly undermine it by saying, well, but 18 00:00:53.759 --> 00:00:56.320 there are certain groups that need special protections, blah blah blah, 19 00:00:56.439 --> 00:00:57.439 that's not how it works. 20 00:00:57.479 --> 00:00:59.359 Welcome to Liberty Lockdown. This is Clint Russell. Today. I'm 21 00:00:59.399 --> 00:01:00.679 joined by doctor at Weinstein. 22 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:01.200 He is. 23 00:01:02.799 --> 00:01:06.200 Just an incredibly brilliant guy. I have been fortunate enough 24 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:08.280 to do a couple panels with him, and I am 25 00:01:08.599 --> 00:01:11.840 thoroughly impressed. I think that he's one of the great 26 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:14.680 minds of today, and not to say that he's the 27 00:01:14.719 --> 00:01:17.159 most brilliant man on the planet, but I think he 28 00:01:17.280 --> 00:01:21.920 is very brilliant, and he's also most importantly courageous. I 29 00:01:21.920 --> 00:01:24.920 think that's what we lack most of all, is intelligent 30 00:01:24.959 --> 00:01:29.319 people that actually have the balls to say something truthful 31 00:01:29.560 --> 00:01:33.719 when it matters most. Brett has demonstrated that courage in 32 00:01:33.760 --> 00:01:36.680 a way that very very few people have, and for 33 00:01:36.719 --> 00:01:39.400 that reason, I am thrilled that he was willing to 34 00:01:39.439 --> 00:01:42.599 have this conversation. We go about as deep as I 35 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:46.560 can take him on every topic that you're not supposed 36 00:01:46.560 --> 00:01:49.280 to talk about. Everything that you're not supposed to say, 37 00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:54.079 we do so for that reason, I am asking you 38 00:01:54.640 --> 00:01:57.280 to hit the like button, subscribe and share this around 39 00:01:57.519 --> 00:01:59.840 because I have a feeling based off of the context 40 00:01:59.879 --> 00:02:02.480 of this conversation. The algorithm will not treat us kindly 41 00:02:02.959 --> 00:02:05.959 and it will be left to you if you'd like 42 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:08.360 the world to hear it, So please do. We just 43 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:11.560 hit twenty seven thousand subscribers, and as you know, the 44 00:02:11.560 --> 00:02:15.360 more subscribers, the more viewers. The more listeners, the higher 45 00:02:15.439 --> 00:02:17.599 profile guests I'm able to have on, which is why 46 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:21.039 I was able to get Dr Weinstein on, which otherwise 47 00:02:21.080 --> 00:02:22.840 I would not have been able to because I've been 48 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:25.719 doing good views thanks to you guys, and he was 49 00:02:25.759 --> 00:02:28.039 willing to give me about seventy five minutes of his 50 00:02:28.120 --> 00:02:30.479 time and it is well worth your time. So I 51 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:33.360 hope you guys enjoyed this one. Enjoy I am thrilled 52 00:02:33.360 --> 00:02:36.599 the day to have on doctor Brett Weinstein. He and 53 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:38.919 I have done a couple panels together over Freedom Fest 54 00:02:39.000 --> 00:02:42.000 and I have always been impressed with his analysis of 55 00:02:42.039 --> 00:02:45.800 the past five years. I have gone from a passive 56 00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:48.360 observer of his too, I would say friend, and I 57 00:02:48.400 --> 00:02:50.759 think that he is an absolutely brilliant human being. So 58 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:54.719 thank you so much, Dr Weinstein for joining Liberty Lockdown today. 59 00:02:55.439 --> 00:02:58.599 Awesome to see you, and I'm looking forward to. 60 00:02:58.560 --> 00:03:02.479 This absolutely man. All right, so let's start here. I 61 00:03:02.520 --> 00:03:07.039 think you and I are both I would say pragmatic, 62 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:12.280 cautiously optimistic Trump first time, I would imagine Trump voters, 63 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:13.919 I don't know if you voted for him many other times. 64 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:16.879 This was my first time, and I got to say 65 00:03:17.520 --> 00:03:20.240 even though I don't think my expectations were extremely lofty. 66 00:03:21.879 --> 00:03:25.599 As of now, I feel relatively disappointed with the outcome. 67 00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:28.520 I'm curious what your grades are for him. I know 68 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:30.680 that you were kind of more in alignment with him 69 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:35.080 because of probably RFK Junior and maybe Tulsi or something 70 00:03:35.120 --> 00:03:38.960 like that. What are your thoughts. 71 00:03:39.639 --> 00:03:46.960 I am confused by what I see. Me too, I 72 00:03:47.000 --> 00:03:50.759 am completely comfortable with having voted for Trump. It was 73 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:57.439 my first time because of the apocalypse that was represented 74 00:03:57.439 --> 00:04:00.199 by the Blue ticket, true, and so I I just 75 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:04.000 don't think there was any rational choice. We had an 76 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:10.639 absolute emergency on our hands, and this simple ability to 77 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:15.879 vote for something that was in some way authentic made 78 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:19.199 it the only game in town now. As for what 79 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:24.399 is transpiring under the Trump administration, I am aware that 80 00:04:24.439 --> 00:04:33.000 there is a labyrinth of power and a hidden priority list. 81 00:04:33.480 --> 00:04:37.839 The administration presumably has things it wants to accomplish. The 82 00:04:37.959 --> 00:04:42.040 labyrinth of power sets the ground rules as to what 83 00:04:42.120 --> 00:04:44.720 can be accomplished at what rate and in exchange for 84 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:47.800 what I know. I'm not privy to that, and so 85 00:04:48.399 --> 00:04:52.920 the real question is how does this stack up compared 86 00:04:52.959 --> 00:04:57.160 to what was possible given the cards that President Trump 87 00:04:57.399 --> 00:05:02.000 held on inauguration. I don't think any of us are 88 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:05.439 in a position to answer that. So, you know, is 89 00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:08.639 the disappointment the result of the fact that the constraints 90 00:05:08.720 --> 00:05:14.000 on the president are greater than we hoped and maybe imagined. 91 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:19.040 Are they the result of the priorities not being the 92 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:24.800 represented priorities. Undoubtedly that plays some role. But you know, again, 93 00:05:24.920 --> 00:05:28.279 in light of what was you know, we had President 94 00:05:28.319 --> 00:05:32.399 Biden was not the president in the meaningful sense of 95 00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:36.480 that term. For them to have attempted to run him 96 00:05:36.920 --> 00:05:41.120 again and then at the point that that became implausible 97 00:05:41.519 --> 00:05:49.639 to swap in an empty shirt is such a dire 98 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:53.439 commentary on the state of the Republic that I think 99 00:05:54.079 --> 00:05:57.759 every conversation about how the Trumpet administration is doing has 100 00:05:57.839 --> 00:06:00.519 to begin with the fact that there was no alternative. 101 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:03.920 Yeah, there's no disagreement there. And I know I've told 102 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:05.879 people this and my audience gets mad at me for it, 103 00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:07.680 but I still don't regret voting for him. I think 104 00:06:07.720 --> 00:06:12.959 that Kamala Harris is if you thought that, you know, 105 00:06:13.079 --> 00:06:16.759 Joe Biden was a puppet, she was no better than that, 106 00:06:16.959 --> 00:06:20.439 for sure. And I do think that there has been 107 00:06:20.600 --> 00:06:23.480 at least efforts by Donald Trump to de escalate with Russia, 108 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:26.639 which was my biggest concern with the Biden administration in 109 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:29.160 terms of existential crisis. I thought that we were really 110 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:32.759 on the precipice of World War three. And well, lately 111 00:06:33.279 --> 00:06:35.519 it seems as if the relations between Trump and Putin 112 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:38.680 have been chilling. At least it seems as if he's trying. 113 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:42.160 Russia today hit Kiev with missiles and drones. 114 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:45.959 More than one hundred people kids Russia. I think it's 115 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:49.000 disgusting what they're doing. I think it's disgusting. This is 116 00:06:49.040 --> 00:06:51.480 Biden's war, it's not my war. But I said, if 117 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:53.240 I get in, I'll try and get the thing stopped. 118 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:57.519 But I think what Russia's doing is very said, a 119 00:06:57.560 --> 00:07:00.600 lot of Russians are dying. You have a lot of Russians. 120 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:04.079 More Russians are dying, but Russians are dying, Ukrainians are dying. 121 00:07:05.240 --> 00:07:07.839 You know, the United States isn't really involved in that war. 122 00:07:07.879 --> 00:07:08.360 It shouldn't be. 123 00:07:08.439 --> 00:07:09.959 And by the way, I made a deal with NATO 124 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:12.720 where NATO pays US for everything that we send. We 125 00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:18.560 send them ammunition, missiles, etc. And we're not paying anything 126 00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:21.040 for that war. But I will tell you this, it 127 00:07:21.079 --> 00:07:24.279 should be stopped. It's a disgrace. And the ones that 128 00:07:24.279 --> 00:07:26.920 are dying or so, they're losing seven thousand now was 129 00:07:26.959 --> 00:07:30.319 five thousand, they're losing now seven thousand soldiers a week, 130 00:07:30.519 --> 00:07:34.120 Ukrainian soldiers and Russian soldiers. And they're also losing people 131 00:07:34.199 --> 00:07:36.600 now in the towns and cities because Putin's hitting them 132 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:37.360 with rockets. 133 00:07:37.560 --> 00:07:40.680 So I guess that's what I was asking for, is 134 00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:43.959 someone to actually push for peace and to try. I 135 00:07:44.040 --> 00:07:49.240 am deeply concerned though with much of the So there 136 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:52.600 was all these campaign promises. We expected, to some extent 137 00:07:52.639 --> 00:07:55.120 there to be COVID justice or to be at least 138 00:07:55.160 --> 00:07:58.839 reforms in the vaccine world. I think RFK has delivered 139 00:07:58.879 --> 00:08:00.639 on some of that, maybe not as much as I 140 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:05.120 would like. I would like to see real investigations, indictments, prosecutions, 141 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:07.480 and we'll probably talk about that in a little bit. 142 00:08:08.920 --> 00:08:13.800 But then obviously just the vast corruption that I think 143 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:16.399 has come to the light or at least become much 144 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:19.319 more obvious to the general public. And I don't just 145 00:08:19.360 --> 00:08:23.879 mean Russian collusion, but certainly the lockdown paradigm, the yeah, 146 00:08:23.879 --> 00:08:26.480 I mean obviously the spying on Donald Trump was crazy, 147 00:08:27.040 --> 00:08:30.279 the vaccine mandates. How dangerous that was. There was just 148 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:36.039 so so many opportunities for a real attack strategy against 149 00:08:36.039 --> 00:08:38.840 the corruption that exists within the government, within the deep state. 150 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:45.480 And what I see the Trump administration, particularly Bondie RFK Junior, 151 00:08:45.759 --> 00:08:50.080 Donald Trump himself, their focus seems to be on like 152 00:08:50.279 --> 00:08:53.879 hate speech laws for Israel. When I see them talk 153 00:08:53.919 --> 00:08:58.759 about issues, they get really like the teeth come out 154 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:02.879 when it comes to defa Israel, And I'm just it 155 00:09:02.919 --> 00:09:05.360 seems like a strange priority for a guy who campaigned 156 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:08.919 on America. First. What do you make of that? I mean, 157 00:09:08.960 --> 00:09:11.200 do you notice it at all? And what are your thoughts? 158 00:09:12.639 --> 00:09:14.960 I mean, I can't help but notice it. And it's 159 00:09:15.120 --> 00:09:23.440 terrifying because it can only be the result of either 160 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:32.600 leverage or delusion, and I tend to think it must 161 00:09:32.639 --> 00:09:40.000 be leverage. But either way, it is bizarre that we 162 00:09:40.159 --> 00:09:43.840 are placing the interests of another nation ahead of the 163 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:49.840 interests of this country, especially under Trump's banner. So I'm 164 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:56.080 never endingly troubled by indications in this direction. I don't 165 00:09:56.120 --> 00:09:58.720 think it's good for Israel. I don't think it's good 166 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:03.600 for the world. I do think something has a set 167 00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:06.279 of priorities that it has not shared, and it has 168 00:10:06.440 --> 00:10:13.000 the leverage to make those priorities manifest under an administration 169 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:20.559 that campaigned under the inverse. It's very troubling and I 170 00:10:20.600 --> 00:10:22.360 don't know what to make of it. I think it 171 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:27.919 is telling us that we have to find out why 172 00:10:28.039 --> 00:10:34.480 we can't escape this paradigm. But I did want to 173 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:37.000 go back to one thing you said earlier, though. I 174 00:10:37.039 --> 00:10:43.159 think the de escalation with Russia has two components, and 175 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:45.759 you nailed one of them. We do have somebody who 176 00:10:45.799 --> 00:10:48.799 does seem to be interested in de escalation. It's not 177 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:52.480 a smooth road, but I think, maybe even more importantly, 178 00:10:53.840 --> 00:10:58.399 we have a person who, old as he is, is 179 00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:01.519 in possession of his mental health faculties, who can respond 180 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:05.279 to an emergency phone call about things spiraling out of 181 00:11:05.320 --> 00:11:10.159 control with Russia and can de escalate in an emergency. 182 00:11:11.320 --> 00:11:13.879 One of the things that I hold the Democratic Party 183 00:11:14.000 --> 00:11:17.720 responsible for, and that I would argue means the Democratic 184 00:11:17.799 --> 00:11:23.759 Party cannot be resurrected, It cannot go clean. Now I 185 00:11:23.799 --> 00:11:27.759 will not accept the Democratic Party. One of the reasons 186 00:11:27.960 --> 00:11:34.639 is that they put a non COMPASSMENTUS figurehead in a 187 00:11:34.679 --> 00:11:41.360 position where he was the failsafe against a nuclear escalation 188 00:11:41.559 --> 00:11:45.960 and then even more insanely, they escalated with that figurehead 189 00:11:46.039 --> 00:11:50.399 in that office. And so that seems to me so reckless, 190 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:53.360 not only with the well being of the Republic, but 191 00:11:53.399 --> 00:11:57.799 with the well being of the entire planet that even 192 00:11:57.840 --> 00:12:01.639 if I had seen no insect stinked towards de escalation 193 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:04.519 under Trump, which is not true, But even if that's 194 00:12:04.559 --> 00:12:07.799 what I had seen, at least having a human being 195 00:12:07.840 --> 00:12:10.639 who presumably does not want to see a nuclear war 196 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:14.039 in a position to take the phone call, to take 197 00:12:14.080 --> 00:12:19.200 the various options put in front of him by his deputies, 198 00:12:19.440 --> 00:12:22.679 and to evaluate what the best way forward is in 199 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:27.320 a crisis, even that is just a night and day 200 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:29.840 difference from what the Democrats handed us. 201 00:12:30.120 --> 00:12:33.240 Oh, no disagreement, And I think, I mean, despite the 202 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:35.120 fact that I'm a very harsh critic of Donald Trump, 203 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:37.320 particularly in his second term. Oh, I was a much 204 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:41.159 harsher critic in his first term with the lockdowns. But yeah, 205 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:44.679 I mean, the freezing and shutting down of major aspects 206 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:48.120 of USAID was a godsend. I was very you know, 207 00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:51.679 that was a shocker to me. I think RFK Junior 208 00:12:51.679 --> 00:12:55.480 in tolls, you have delivered on many levels. So I'm 209 00:12:55.480 --> 00:12:59.080 not it's not as if like it's all doom and 210 00:12:59.120 --> 00:13:02.000 gloom here. And I completely agree with your assessment that 211 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:06.360 it's very important that when you're playing footsy with nuclear war, 212 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:11.639 you have a someone wielding the feet that actually is 213 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:13.639 able to, you know, pick up the phone in the 214 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:17.080 middle of the night and not being asleep at six pm. 215 00:13:17.120 --> 00:13:19.519 So and Donald Trump may never sleep. I'm not even 216 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:22.759 sure if he's a human being at this point, but 217 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:27.039 I am very so. I think the reason that, at 218 00:13:27.120 --> 00:13:29.720 least I'll just speak for myself, the reason that I 219 00:13:29.799 --> 00:13:33.960 ended up supporting Trump is because after so much abuse, 220 00:13:34.240 --> 00:13:36.720 after facing seven hundred years in prison, after having a 221 00:13:36.720 --> 00:13:40.440 bullet grazed his head, after having the FBI spy on him, 222 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:44.120 after having multiple, you know, trumped up charges that were 223 00:13:44.200 --> 00:13:46.960 placed against him, there was just so and then then 224 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:51.120 the media twenty four to seven just hit pieces against 225 00:13:51.200 --> 00:13:55.360 him for eight years straight. And then also understanding the 226 00:13:55.440 --> 00:13:58.000 nature of the COVID era and how much of that 227 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:01.320 was done under the cover of darkness and without his understanding, 228 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:05.919 and kind of concluding that that was probably utilized to 229 00:14:06.320 --> 00:14:10.559 Austin from power the first go around. So take all 230 00:14:10.600 --> 00:14:13.240 of that in its totality and I think it's rational 231 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:15.320 to come to the conclusion that Donald Trump is a 232 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:19.039 real outsider, Like this guy is not what the establishment wants. 233 00:14:19.360 --> 00:14:21.240 You had, I mean, we just had all of these 234 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:23.679 disclosures over the past forty eight hours, which you and 235 00:14:23.720 --> 00:14:28.360 I probably already knew about in detail. But Obama, Hillary Clinton, 236 00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:32.120 Steele dossier, the whole Brennan Clapper, the whole lineup. It's like, yeah, 237 00:14:32.120 --> 00:14:35.799 this was all true. Like they worked from day zero 238 00:14:36.279 --> 00:14:39.240 to get this guy out or at least to undermine him. 239 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:41.519 So anyways, I say all that to say this, I 240 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:44.200 come to the conclusion that this guy is a real outsider. 241 00:14:45.240 --> 00:14:50.720 And then he's making trade policy based off of whether 242 00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:55.120 or not Canada will acknowledge the statehood of Palestine, And 243 00:14:55.159 --> 00:14:58.039 I'm like, I'm like, this is so strange to me, 244 00:14:58.519 --> 00:15:01.840 Like where is the you just the juxtaposition of like, 245 00:15:02.480 --> 00:15:05.080 this guy's got to be an outsider renegade, and then 246 00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:09.120 that making trade policy based off of foreign relations of 247 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:11.440 nations that are not our own, that are six thousand 248 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:16.200 miles away. I cannot I cannot get these in alignment. 249 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:18.240 And I just wanted to circle back to your point 250 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:24.799 earlier about it appears to be leverage. What is the leverage? 251 00:15:25.600 --> 00:15:32.480 I don't know, and I guess I'm less certain than 252 00:15:32.480 --> 00:15:36.879 I once was that Trump is definitely an outsider, And 253 00:15:36.919 --> 00:15:40.679 in fact, I'm not even sure we've got the framework right, 254 00:15:40.919 --> 00:15:46.000 because I think he has to have been a true outsider, 255 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:49.919 that the insiders truly feared for them to have unleashed 256 00:15:50.360 --> 00:15:54.320 some of the amazing law fair against him, for example, 257 00:15:54.360 --> 00:16:00.480 that they clearly did. But that does not mean that 258 00:16:01.399 --> 00:16:08.440 there isn't a contingency plan in which so you would 259 00:16:08.480 --> 00:16:10.639 imagine think of this the way the deep state must 260 00:16:10.639 --> 00:16:12.279 think of it. And I don't even think the deep 261 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:14.600 state is the right description. The deep state is clearly 262 00:16:14.679 --> 00:16:21.440 some super national cabal. You know, it contains elements of, 263 00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:24.399 or maybe the entirety of the five eyes. Maybe five 264 00:16:24.440 --> 00:16:27.720 eyes isn't enough eyes to really describe how many parties 265 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:31.279 are in play. But imagine how they must think of it. 266 00:16:32.360 --> 00:16:36.919 They must think, assuming this wasn't theater from the beginning 267 00:16:37.399 --> 00:16:40.720 that fooled you and me, assuming that Trump truly was 268 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:48.720 an outsider that frightened a certain extra constitutional elite, they 269 00:16:48.799 --> 00:16:54.000 must have thought, we can stop him. Here's how we're 270 00:16:54.039 --> 00:16:57.679 going to do it. And if we fail to stop him. 271 00:16:58.279 --> 00:17:02.960 Here's what we're going to do to arouse him, and 272 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:08.720 what I'm concerned. The most parsimonious explanation for what I 273 00:17:08.799 --> 00:17:12.519 have seen so far is that he was an outsider 274 00:17:13.160 --> 00:17:21.480 who has now surrendered on a couple of different fronts, 275 00:17:24.039 --> 00:17:27.240 possibly in order. You know, you could imagine a conversation 276 00:17:27.279 --> 00:17:31.000 in which somebody sat down with him and said, mister President, 277 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:35.559 here's what we've got, and here's what unfolds if you 278 00:17:35.599 --> 00:17:38.880 go out this like the new sheriff in town. On 279 00:17:38.960 --> 00:17:44.119 the other hand, you beat us fair and square. We're 280 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:49.000 ready to accept that you have the legitimate right to 281 00:17:49.160 --> 00:17:52.119 change a certain number of things in your direction, and 282 00:17:53.279 --> 00:17:55.839 we won't stand in your way so long as you 283 00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:58.480 recognize that these things aren't to be touched. And if 284 00:17:58.519 --> 00:18:02.519 they were touched, the following would unfold. Right, you could 285 00:18:02.519 --> 00:18:06.240 imagine a speech like that, and then you could imagine 286 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:09.640 that it would cause the temper tentrum that we saw 287 00:18:09.799 --> 00:18:15.279 President Trump throw over Epstein. President Trump was tweeting at 288 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:19.599 us about letting Epstein go. His point was, look how 289 00:18:19.680 --> 00:18:22.799 much other great stuff I'm doing for you, This is nothing. 290 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:23.400 Let it go. 291 00:18:23.880 --> 00:18:24.039 Now. 292 00:18:24.079 --> 00:18:27.640 That doesn't make sense to me, because it appears that 293 00:18:27.720 --> 00:18:36.559 Epstein is the label on an architecture for extra constitutional 294 00:18:36.599 --> 00:18:41.680 control of the United States power structure. So my feeling 295 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:44.720 is there's no higher issue, and it has nothing to 296 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:47.720 do with Jeffrey Epstein. It has to do with what 297 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:50.799 Jeffrey Epstein was doing and what role that is currently 298 00:18:50.839 --> 00:18:53.960 playing in terms of what we are and are not 299 00:18:54.119 --> 00:18:56.640 able to do in the US, all of which is 300 00:18:57.599 --> 00:18:59.960 offensive to the idea of the consent of the government. 301 00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:02.519 We are supposed to govern ourselves, and we are not 302 00:19:02.559 --> 00:19:06.119 governing ourselves for reasons we don't understand until we get 303 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:09.240 to the bottom of what Epstein was, who he was 304 00:19:09.279 --> 00:19:11.759 interacting with, what he has on them, what they've been 305 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:16.680 doing for however many years that leverage existed, and pretending 306 00:19:17.079 --> 00:19:19.880 that this is about the individual and that his death, 307 00:19:20.000 --> 00:19:27.559 assuming he died, is therefore the final story in that 308 00:19:27.880 --> 00:19:36.400 tale is nonsense. So I'm agnostic about what's really going on. 309 00:19:36.559 --> 00:19:39.960 I think there's a range of possibilities. There's a very 310 00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:47.000 remote possibility that Trump was, you know, an alternative narrative, 311 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:50.640 you know, where we've been given the ability to choose 312 00:19:50.680 --> 00:19:55.119 between tide and cheer, and that it's not a real distinction. 313 00:19:55.519 --> 00:19:57.599 I don't. I really don't think that's what happened, But 314 00:19:57.880 --> 00:20:00.519 I think we have to leave it alive as a 315 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:05.920 a formal possibility. Sure, but then I think what I'm 316 00:20:05.960 --> 00:20:10.079 reading looks like leverage was brought to bear and it 317 00:20:10.160 --> 00:20:15.640 is now shaping what the Trump administration will and will 318 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:18.400 not accomplish from the priorities that I assume it had 319 00:20:18.440 --> 00:20:19.400 coming into office. 320 00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:22.720 Yeah, I agree with all of that. I think it's 321 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:28.599 a very fair analysis. I have to wonder if the 322 00:20:28.680 --> 00:20:32.839 Butler Pennsylvania attack wasn't some sort of an inflection point 323 00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:35.839 where you know, they got that close to taking him 324 00:20:35.839 --> 00:20:39.319 out and he's just like and maybe it requires a 325 00:20:39.359 --> 00:20:43.640 phone call, maybe it doesn't, but you just ultimately there 326 00:20:43.680 --> 00:20:46.799 is a shift in. But also the shift happens once 327 00:20:46.799 --> 00:20:49.000 he gets into power. So it's just very hard to say. 328 00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:54.119 I can't really establish a divination point or whatever the 329 00:20:54.279 --> 00:20:57.839 word is. It's it's just very frustrating, and I think, 330 00:20:58.160 --> 00:20:59.839 you know, just to kind of lay my cards in 331 00:20:59.880 --> 00:21:03.960 the table. The reason I'm so I don't know, exhausted, 332 00:21:04.359 --> 00:21:07.319 is that I just recognize what I think you probably 333 00:21:07.319 --> 00:21:10.039 recognized too, is that this is just such an existential 334 00:21:10.359 --> 00:21:12.599 moment for this country. And not just for this country, 335 00:21:12.640 --> 00:21:16.279 but for the planet. When it's like America represents such 336 00:21:16.319 --> 00:21:21.680 a important pivot point for human freedom and prosperity and 337 00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:24.279 capitalism and all of these things that I really hold 338 00:21:24.319 --> 00:21:30.200 dear self defense, free speech, and just the lockdown COVID era, 339 00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:34.480 which Trump did preside over, at least in large part, 340 00:21:35.720 --> 00:21:39.359 was such a huge diversion from that path of this 341 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:42.440 country that I love so much. And it's just like, 342 00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:46.920 and then you have these proxy wars all over the world, 343 00:21:46.920 --> 00:21:50.720 but particularly in Ukraine, which really disturbs me. And it 344 00:21:50.799 --> 00:21:53.160 just feels as if in the censorship apparatus that was 345 00:21:53.240 --> 00:21:54.839 rolled out during the COVID era, and it's like, just 346 00:21:54.920 --> 00:21:57.359 all of this right, and then you have thirty seven 347 00:21:57.440 --> 00:22:00.480 trillion dollars in debt. As a libertarian Austrian guy, I 348 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:03.119 can't help but pay attention to that. And it's just like, 349 00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:05.960 the dollar is on the precipice of collapse. If that happens, 350 00:22:06.319 --> 00:22:09.480 dollar reserve status ends, then the chickens really come home 351 00:22:09.480 --> 00:22:12.039 to roost. Inflation can like basically I'm just laying all 352 00:22:12.039 --> 00:22:14.240 the cards on the table to say, this is a 353 00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:20.359 really important point for real leadership, not a puppet not 354 00:22:20.440 --> 00:22:24.359 a guy who's seventy percent a real boy and thirty 355 00:22:24.400 --> 00:22:27.960 percent not. Like we need a real hero. We need 356 00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:32.200 someone to risk something, and I mean major And it's 357 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:34.759 not to say that Trump hasn't something, but we just 358 00:22:34.960 --> 00:22:37.240 we kind of need a hero right now. And he's 359 00:22:37.279 --> 00:22:41.319 not acting in that heroic level of courageousness that I 360 00:22:41.319 --> 00:22:44.640 would I would like to see, particularly from someone who's 361 00:22:44.680 --> 00:22:46.599 only got ten or twenty years left on the planet. 362 00:22:48.119 --> 00:22:53.319 Yeah, I exactly agree with that he is not doing 363 00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:56.839 what I would hope a patriot would do in his shoes, 364 00:22:57.079 --> 00:23:00.519 with the acknowledgment that I don't exactly know what he's 365 00:23:00.519 --> 00:23:03.799 facing and what he's been what's been revealed to him. 366 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:11.000 But I also have the sense that the various threads 367 00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:16.920 are not individual, they are not independent of each other, 368 00:23:17.599 --> 00:23:24.440 That somehow Ukraine is very important for some reason, like 369 00:23:24.960 --> 00:23:28.799 it's a money laundering operation that is not entirely distinct 370 00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:32.240 from what's taking place in the Middle East. There seems 371 00:23:32.279 --> 00:23:37.119 to be a kind of necessity to keep the Ukraine 372 00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:42.720 conflict going, and I don't think it's entirely independent of 373 00:23:43.880 --> 00:23:46.480 any of these other structures. I don't know if it's 374 00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:51.000 connected to trafficking that you need. You need a location 375 00:23:51.359 --> 00:23:55.799 with sufficient chaos to shield human trafficking. That you need 376 00:23:55.799 --> 00:24:00.359 a place that you can get the US Congress to 377 00:24:00.440 --> 00:24:04.079 send American tax dollars where they will become untraceable and 378 00:24:04.119 --> 00:24:08.400 will circle back into elections and conflicts, and you know, 379 00:24:08.559 --> 00:24:15.519 they become a black budget for whatever entities are wielding power. 380 00:24:16.039 --> 00:24:24.920 I know that Benjamin Netanyahu is a diabolical figure, both 381 00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:32.359 in the context of COVID and the context of the 382 00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:37.119 war in the Middle East. He is also connected in 383 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:42.279 a way that I think is completely unforgivable to October 384 00:24:42.319 --> 00:24:49.359 seventh itself. That his funding of Hamas means that Israel's 385 00:24:49.599 --> 00:24:54.240 number one priority after October seventh should have been removing 386 00:24:54.279 --> 00:24:59.519 bet Yahu from power, and having done priority one, its 387 00:24:59.559 --> 00:25:02.640 second priority should have been getting to the bottom of 388 00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:06.920 how exactly that failure could possibly have happened. You know, 389 00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:11.240 whether that was that you know Hamas or Iran had 390 00:25:11.319 --> 00:25:15.599 moles inside of the Israeli security apparatus, or there was 391 00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:18.160 collusion or whatever it was. They needed to get rid 392 00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:20.039 of Benjamin att Yahu and they needed to get to 393 00:25:20.079 --> 00:25:23.400 the bottom of that, and having done neither, it creates 394 00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:29.960 a stench surrounding the events in Gaza that I can't 395 00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:34.119 look past. But again, my point is, I don't like 396 00:25:34.200 --> 00:25:38.039 the sense that the calamity of COVID and the calamity 397 00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:41.640 of Gaza and the calamity of Ukraine are all part 398 00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:44.440 of some story that no one's ever told me. I 399 00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:50.960 think they're not independent. And given such a thing, we 400 00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:53.279 need to know there is no higher priority. And Trump 401 00:25:53.319 --> 00:25:56.920