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<v Speaker 1>It is time for as we do every Tuesday at

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<v Speaker 1>this time, we do the Tech segment with Rich Demurow

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<v Speaker 1>Rich seen on KTLA every day, Rich on Tech every

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday here on KFI at eleven am to two pm,

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram at rich on Tech website, rich on Tech dot TV.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, Rich, Good morning to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill. Okay, last week we talked about the event that

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<v Speaker 1>you went to, the Google event.

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<v Speaker 2>If I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>Mistaken, yes, and so happened. Okay, So what came out

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<v Speaker 1>of that? Because I know you anticipate and then what

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<v Speaker 1>actually happens and then you report on what came out

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<v Speaker 1>and you go, ooh, let me tell you, Let me

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, folks, this happens.

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<v Speaker 3>So do we have any great news there?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think for the takeaways obviously that Google was

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<v Speaker 4>forced into AI by chatubt, even though they had been.

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<v Speaker 2>Working on it for a long time.

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<v Speaker 4>They forced their hand into kind of releasing all these

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<v Speaker 4>new products and services and whatever that to take advantage

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<v Speaker 4>of AI. And now Google is saying, look, okay, the

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<v Speaker 4>last couple of years we've been dipping our toes. Now

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<v Speaker 4>we are really showing off the fact that we know

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<v Speaker 4>what we're doing with AI. We already have all the

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<v Speaker 4>base knowledge of the Internet because we've been doing that

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<v Speaker 4>really well for twenty five years, and now we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to supercharge everything that we've done and make it AI

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<v Speaker 4>to the limit, and so things to go.

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<v Speaker 3>Ahead, Yeah, please go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, yeah, I'm I mean, look, Gemini is their

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<v Speaker 4>version of AI. They're putting that into every single product.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I think for consumers the main thing to

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<v Speaker 4>know is twofold number one. This new AI mode is

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<v Speaker 4>in Google. We've talked about it before on the show

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<v Speaker 4>because a couple of months ago I said how cool

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<v Speaker 4>it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an experiment.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess it's been so good that now they're like

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<v Speaker 4>almost replacing their search with it. So when you're searching,

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<v Speaker 4>if you see that little tab or button that says

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<v Speaker 4>AI mode, tap it. It is incredible. You can ask

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<v Speaker 4>really complex questions that nobody's ever asked the Internet before

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<v Speaker 4>and still get answers. So it goes way beyond keywords.

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<v Speaker 4>And then on the iPhone there's a really cool feature

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<v Speaker 4>now called Gemini Live. You can share the video from

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<v Speaker 4>your phone's camera, so you can basically have AI take

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<v Speaker 4>a look at something. And so, for instance, I was

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<v Speaker 4>trying to figure out my sprinkler system. I just pointed

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<v Speaker 4>my camera at the sprinkler system in my yard and

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<v Speaker 4>like ask questions about it. Hey, what does this button do?

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<v Speaker 4>How do I adjust this? What do I need to

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<v Speaker 4>know here? And it's like having the smartest person answer

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<v Speaker 4>your questions.

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows your sprinkler system?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and everything else in the world. I mean I

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<v Speaker 4>read into the radio show and he said, Rich, nobody

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<v Speaker 4>could tell me what these two little connectors were for

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<v Speaker 4>on my new car. I pointed AI at it and asked,

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<v Speaker 4>and instantly it explained what those were. Four he said,

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<v Speaker 4>this is this is amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>So you have.

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<v Speaker 1>Different companies doing different versions of AI, and give me

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<v Speaker 1>an idea.

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<v Speaker 3>You chat GPT is one of the first people out.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they basically invented or created the concept. What

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<v Speaker 1>do these other companies do that it doesn't do? And

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<v Speaker 1>can they be proprietary about what they've developed?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's interesting because someone like, Okay, so there's a

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, obviously there's a bunch of companies all doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got the main ones like.

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<v Speaker 4>Chat GBT, Open AI. You've got Microsoft, which is using

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<v Speaker 4>chat GBT technology underlying. You've got Google, which has Gemini,

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<v Speaker 4>You've got Grock, which is part of you know, Elon

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<v Speaker 4>Musk's Empire of Things, and that's doing it as well.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got deep Seek out of.

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<v Speaker 4>China, You've got Mistral out of France, and then you've

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<v Speaker 4>got Meta, you know which owns Facebook. They're doing it

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<v Speaker 4>as well, and they've built it into all of their products.

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<v Speaker 4>So the proprietary nature is interesting because some companies are

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<v Speaker 4>taking more of an open source aspect to this. A

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<v Speaker 4>lot of these companies are sort of secretive about the

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<v Speaker 4>you know what powers the AI, but someone like Meta

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<v Speaker 4>is opening up their AI whereas anyone can use it

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<v Speaker 4>to program what they want to do. So they're all

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<v Speaker 4>taking a slightly different approach. But at the end of

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<v Speaker 4>the day, Bill, I think the big trend is, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>companies want to use this to power things and to

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<v Speaker 4>power systems that they're building, and so of course they

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<v Speaker 4>can do that and pay these companies on the back end.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think for consumers, the real sticky factor at

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<v Speaker 4>this point is that these AI bots are getting to

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<v Speaker 4>know the people that are using them. And so, for instance,

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<v Speaker 4>I was reading an article and basically the thesis is

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<v Speaker 4>that the more these AI bots get to know the customer,

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<v Speaker 4>the more customized they become, and the less you're going

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<v Speaker 4>to want to switch to a different AI chatbop.

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<v Speaker 2>And that makes a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 3>What I've been hearing.

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<v Speaker 1>And my daughter is the one I go to on

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<v Speaker 1>this one because she's my tech nerd and is getting

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<v Speaker 1>her master's degree in cybersecurity or whatever the hell she's studying.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is AI is wiping out entire sectors of industry.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean just across the board, any research done, any

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<v Speaker 1>analysis going to be done. In the legal field, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>a first year associate comes in and they are put

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<v Speaker 1>on research done. There is no time. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>reading some articles saying that there really are no entry

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<v Speaker 1>level jobs anymore because they're all going to be done,

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<v Speaker 1>which means as the medium level management and the upper

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<v Speaker 1>level management retire, there'll be no one there that has

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<v Speaker 1>the experience that can run companies.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there was we talked about on KTLA today is

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<v Speaker 4>this article and op ed in the New York Times

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<v Speaker 4>which you may have seen by one of the executives

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<v Speaker 4>at linked In saying, look, AI is definitely disrupting the

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<v Speaker 4>entry level job sector. Like you said, paralegals anyone that's

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<v Speaker 4>getting their first job. And obviously we've got a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of college grads getting into the job market right now,

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<v Speaker 4>and they're not all too excited about it because the

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<v Speaker 4>jobs that they used to use to either learn the

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<v Speaker 4>ropes or you know, just get their foot in the

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<v Speaker 4>door are no longer available or they've changed because you

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<v Speaker 4>just don't need someone to do those. Like you said,

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<v Speaker 4>AI is really good at simple tasks like analyzing large

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<v Speaker 4>amounts of data and very simple things that used to

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<v Speaker 4>take a person time and energy to do, and AI

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<v Speaker 4>can now do it in seconds. So I guess the

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<v Speaker 4>thesis of the LinkedIn article was basically that jobs still

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<v Speaker 4>have to hire these people, but help them work with AI,

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<v Speaker 4>because otherwise, if we don't get these young people sort

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<v Speaker 4>of into the folds, there's going to be a deficit

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<v Speaker 4>in the future of people that can have these higher

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<v Speaker 4>level jobs that understand the whole company.

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<v Speaker 3>It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>My daughter with her bachelor's degree can't get an entry

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<v Speaker 1>level job in the field, which is.

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<v Speaker 3>Why she's doing your master's degree.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm very proud of the fact that she's going

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<v Speaker 1>to have a master's degree and will not be able.

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<v Speaker 3>To get a job.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I think she's taken the approach of like,

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<v Speaker 4>let's see what happens, because right now everything has been

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<v Speaker 4>thrown up in the air.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, companies are still trying to figure this out.

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<v Speaker 4>And look, Bill, if you're a company, what are you

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<v Speaker 4>trying to do? You're trying to save money. And so

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<v Speaker 4>if someone from your department in it is saying, hey, look,

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<v Speaker 4>AI can do this and it can replace these people

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<v Speaker 4>and it's more efficient and it's this price, of course

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<v Speaker 4>you're going to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't know what the long term sort of effect

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<v Speaker 4>of all of this is, whether companies come back and say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>this works, this doesn't work, we need people for this still.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think it's all still up in the air.

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<v Speaker 4>But yes, it is definitely changing for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's crazy. Oh do I take an opportunity now

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<v Speaker 3>to hustle a job for my daughter?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Neil, I don't think I've ever done that.

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<v Speaker 2>How I.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that even allowed? Is that even allowed?

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<v Speaker 1>If anybody, if anybody needs an entry level person, just

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<v Speaker 1>write me and you probably won't hire my daughter either

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<v Speaker 1>like everybody else won't. Or any new trainee or intern

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<v Speaker 1>who has good computer skills she's going out of her mind.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, based on that LinkedIn article which I read,

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<v Speaker 1>or that executive, she is not alone.

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<v Speaker 3>She is not alone. It's really tough.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's talk about the Samsung Galaxy S twenty five Edge.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm assuming that's a new phone.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, when you talk about the newer, better

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<v Speaker 1>sort of the blastow five thousand of the iPhones which

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<v Speaker 1>I have, I'm getting the idea that Samsung is moving

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of the curve, that they're more advanced and are

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<v Speaker 1>working more in terms of newer technology.

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<v Speaker 3>Do I have that right?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? I would say that they probably try more things

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<v Speaker 4>for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, good answer. Okay with that, Oh we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>a good time with this.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh what's your go to? Do you do? Android or

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<v Speaker 3>iPhone or both?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I look, I carry three phones because I've

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<v Speaker 4>got to answer questions on the radio show about all

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<v Speaker 4>of them. And uh, you know, you've got You've got

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<v Speaker 4>iPhone is obviously very popular, You've got Samsung probably the

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<v Speaker 4>second most popular, and then Google's Pixel is a very

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<v Speaker 4>popular phone as well. So uh, and that's and that

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<v Speaker 4>one i'd say is probably gaining the most new fans

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<v Speaker 4>because it's really clean, it works really well. The camera,

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<v Speaker 4>obviously everyone knows, is really good. But you know, when

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<v Speaker 4>it comes to the it's interesting when you ask that

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<v Speaker 4>question about Apple versus Samsung. So Samsung definitely tries more

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<v Speaker 4>things like This new phone is coming out on Friday.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the Galaxy S twenty five Edge. It's super slim.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been using it for a couple of weeks now.

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<v Speaker 4>It is undeniably fun and different because it's a really

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<v Speaker 4>thin and lightweight phone, but it's very high powered, like

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<v Speaker 4>it has all the features you need. The two downsides

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<v Speaker 4>that I have noticed are the zoom because they can't

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<v Speaker 4>have as good of a zoom lens as maybe if

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<v Speaker 4>you've got the iPhone Pro or all the other ones

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<v Speaker 4>that have a dedicated zoom lens. This does not have that,

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<v Speaker 4>so the zoom is a little bit iffy. And also

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<v Speaker 4>the battery life. It definitely runs down a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>faster than some of the other phones out there. But

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<v Speaker 4>at the same time, it's super thin and lightweight, and

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<v Speaker 4>so people are going to see that as kind of refreshing,

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<v Speaker 4>and we know that Apple is expected to do something

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<v Speaker 4>very similar with a thin and light iPhone later this year,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe nickname the Air or something like that, the Ultra,

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<v Speaker 4>who knows. But my point is with Apple, they have

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<v Speaker 4>a much different approach because they control everything from what's

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<v Speaker 4>inside the phone to the software, and that leads them

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<v Speaker 4>to be able to do very different things when it

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<v Speaker 4>comes to power efficiency, when it comes.

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<v Speaker 2>To features, the camera, Siri.

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<v Speaker 4>The way things work on the iPhone is just much

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<v Speaker 4>more integrated than the way they work on Android phones

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<v Speaker 4>because Android has a mix of all different parts and

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<v Speaker 4>all different software and all different manufacturers, and so it's

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<v Speaker 4>just a different approach to a very similar problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, we're probably gonna have that conversation. You know, obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I'm an iPhone guy, and I won't even

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<v Speaker 1>try anybody any other phone.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I just don't want to learn it. I just

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<v Speaker 1>I just learn how to turn my phone on, which

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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming a lot of people have a problem with

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Gadget alert real quickly. Only have a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of minutes. And I always love gadgets.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh this is great. This is a super simple, fun

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<v Speaker 4>new gadget. It's not I guess you can't even call

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<v Speaker 4>a gadget, but it is a power cable from a

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<v Speaker 4>company called twelve South, and what they have done is

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<v Speaker 4>they have made a cable that on one side is

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<v Speaker 4>a plug and on the other side is USBC plug.

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<v Speaker 4>So basically it's a power chord, that's what they call it.

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<v Speaker 4>And it the best part about this thing is that

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<v Speaker 4>you're not looking. You know, when you get a power

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<v Speaker 4>cable at your house, you need to get the plug

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<v Speaker 4>that goes into the wall, and then you have to

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<v Speaker 4>get the power cord itself right the USB cable and

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<v Speaker 4>you plug those in and it's always too short.

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<v Speaker 2>Number two.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you have kids like I do that always

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<v Speaker 4>want their iPad plugged in they're moving around the house

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<v Speaker 4>or sitting on the couch or sitting on the bed,

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<v Speaker 4>they're sitting on the floor, this thing comes in a

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<v Speaker 4>ten foot length, so you can sit there on the

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<v Speaker 4>it without pulling this thing out.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the wall. So it's just a super simple.

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<v Speaker 4>Gadget that you know, it's not new to have a

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<v Speaker 4>power cable like this, but it is kind of refreshing

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<v Speaker 4>that it works with all your different.

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<v Speaker 2>Devices and it just is simple.

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<v Speaker 4>So forty dollars or fifty dollars if you want that

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<v Speaker 4>ten foot length. But I love this thing. I've been

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<v Speaker 4>playing with it for a week. Just came out, and

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<v Speaker 4>it does make life a lot easier, especially for travel.

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<v Speaker 4>You just plug, you know, one thing to bring that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't you buy like a twenty foot cable out there

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<v Speaker 3>some place?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes you can, but you know, most of the time

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<v Speaker 4>it's just a cable, so it might not have the

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<v Speaker 4>plug part of it. And then you wonder. You know

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of people are also using plugs that are

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<v Speaker 4>not powerful enough for their phone, Like they're not taking

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<v Speaker 4>full advantage because they're using an older plug, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like that power adapter that goes into the wall might

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<v Speaker 4>be from a previous device that doesn't give you as

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<v Speaker 4>much juice. This one has thirty watts, which is plenty

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<v Speaker 4>for almost every gadget nowadays. You know, some laptops will

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<v Speaker 4>take that as a trickle charge. I know it's getting

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<v Speaker 4>a little technical, but you know, it depends on the

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<v Speaker 4>wattage of the device. But all the phones and things

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<v Speaker 4>like that will charge really fast with a thirty walk.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Rich will catch you this weekend Saturday morning

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow on KTLA and or Saturday eleven am to two

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<v Speaker 1>pm here on KFI and next Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, you have a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh right, thank you,