1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Kay bla talk fifteen eighty trillion dollars, might do it 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,839 a couple trillion. We're talking reparations. We do that every 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,480 Friday at this time, second hour of the show. We 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:18,719 call it Friedman Friday because when we ended the Civil War. 5 00:00:19,039 --> 00:00:23,440 When the Civil War ended, the enslaved formerly enslaved back 6 00:00:23,519 --> 00:00:28,039 black persons of this country were called freedman designated such 7 00:00:28,559 --> 00:00:32,000 by the government. I call it Freedman Friday because we 8 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,960 focus on reparations, all of the repair, everything that was 9 00:00:36,079 --> 00:00:40,200 meant to happen back in eighteen sixty five that we 10 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:45,920 are still struggling to make happen today. And so we've 11 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,560 been doing this for a couple of years now. I'm 12 00:00:48,679 --> 00:00:55,320 really happy to welcome in the chief Wellness Officer of 13 00:00:55,479 --> 00:01:02,079 Blacksmith's Psychological Consultative Services. There's psychologic coal services provider for 14 00:01:02,119 --> 00:01:09,719 the US Olympics and Paralympic Committee. The leader, doctor ram 15 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,920 Mel Kwaku Smith. 16 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 2: Arifi A Moassee is. 17 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,879 Speaker 1: Is out of Milwaukee and he went to University of Milwaukee. 18 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,959 He's got his bachelor's in psychology, went on and got 19 00:01:25,239 --> 00:01:29,719 a master's of Science and Educational psychology, a doctorate of 20 00:01:29,799 --> 00:01:35,799 philosophy at the University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee, and he's been 21 00:01:35,879 --> 00:01:41,319 president of Blacksmith's Psychological Services since two thousand and seven. 22 00:01:41,799 --> 00:01:44,000 Doctor Quaku, Welcome back. 23 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,519 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. It's always a pleasure to be 24 00:01:47,599 --> 00:01:48,480 on what you dominate. 25 00:01:49,159 --> 00:01:52,879 Speaker 1: Yes, it's always great to hear from you. And you're 26 00:01:53,079 --> 00:01:57,000 you know, obviously you're in the field of psychology, but 27 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:03,959 you're also very much committed and interested in Black history 28 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,159 and Black liberation. 29 00:02:07,319 --> 00:02:09,159 Speaker 3: Oh, no doubt about it. I mean everything that we 30 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,879 do is as an African centered liberation film, and what 31 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,599 we do is like, how do we as a descendant 32 00:02:16,039 --> 00:02:18,840 of those who were enslaves still survive in this wilderness 33 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,879 of North America. So it's always I have an unapologetic 34 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,439 love for all people, but a special love for my people. 35 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: And so, you know, when you center this idea, and 36 00:02:33,199 --> 00:02:36,159 we were just talking about Btty Mason, right, an enslaved 37 00:02:36,199 --> 00:02:40,319 woman who walked from Mississippi to California and ended up 38 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,960 owning a large part of downtown and helping to found 39 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,159 one of our most prominent churches, Bittty Mason. 40 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:47,719 Speaker 2: So when you go. 41 00:02:47,719 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: From centering psychology to a conversation about reparations, does it 42 00:02:55,719 --> 00:02:59,199 seem like a leap to you or does it seem 43 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:00,800 like a logic progression. 44 00:03:02,159 --> 00:03:04,719 Speaker 3: No, I mean it's a perfect intersection because you know, 45 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,039 everything is interrelated in life. So when we started to 46 00:03:07,039 --> 00:03:09,360 talk about that, and so how can you be a 47 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,159 person of African descent and not talk about reparations. I 48 00:03:13,199 --> 00:03:15,599 know oftentimes when you talk about Freedman Frieda and you 49 00:03:15,719 --> 00:03:18,800 ask people, well, how do you define reparations? And some 50 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,439 people won't answer the questions. Some people will give a 51 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,840 very clear definition. And I think one thing that all 52 00:03:24,879 --> 00:03:27,439 people can agree on, it's about how do you repair 53 00:03:27,479 --> 00:03:29,400 a harm? And if you are people who have been 54 00:03:29,439 --> 00:03:32,919 harmed since the very very beginning, that means every intersection 55 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,599 of life needs to be repaired. Every area of human activity. 56 00:03:36,719 --> 00:03:39,759 Nearie Fuller Junior used to talk about these nine areas 57 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,680 of human activity that we all deal with, and so 58 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,439 you talk about psychology and health, all of those things, 59 00:03:45,639 --> 00:03:48,479 those are in those same areas that needs to be repaired. 60 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,840 So correlates. 61 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: I know that there's a large group of folks, myself included, 62 00:03:56,319 --> 00:03:59,319 you feel like, okay, reparations has to include the check, 63 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,360 it has to include land, it has to include economic 64 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:11,159 you know, make goods, economic healing. But when we talk 65 00:04:11,199 --> 00:04:15,560 about psychological healing and the impact of not just enslavement, 66 00:04:15,599 --> 00:04:18,000 but Jim Crow and the subsequent harms, many of which 67 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:23,480 continue to this day. Is that something that is on us? 68 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,120 Is that our own charge, or is that something that 69 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:33,480 we should somehow be in partnership with this country, these nations, institutions, 70 00:04:34,519 --> 00:04:37,600 or it's corporate sort of class. 71 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 3: Now, you couldn't have asked a better question, because when 72 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,000 we talk about reparations, I believe in everything what you 73 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,839 just said, pay us what you will, give us everything. 74 00:04:48,519 --> 00:04:50,920 But at the beginning of reparations, the first thing that 75 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,079 has to be done is an acknowledgment of the wrong, like, hey, 76 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,079 we did you wrong. And not only is it an 77 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,079 acknowledgment of that wrong, but then there's an apology, a 78 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,160 sincere apology. And what I tell everybody that I work 79 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,720 with from a clinical setting, and it's outside of reparations, 80 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,560 but just in general, I said, an apology is just 81 00:05:08,639 --> 00:05:11,600 to start. It's like a puppet. But when you start 82 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,959 to animate that puppet, those are the actions of that apology. 83 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,160 So the second part of the reparations goes from acknowledging 84 00:05:18,199 --> 00:05:22,120 and apologizing to what then to repairing the harm. So 85 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,319 that means I'm going to replace what I took or 86 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,240 I'm going to get back in a different way what 87 00:05:26,399 --> 00:05:29,800 was took. And before any land any other things can 88 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,560 be given, we need that true apology to say, hey, 89 00:05:32,639 --> 00:05:35,079 you know what, you are truly welcome. When we look 90 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,879 at the Constitution, I think it's one of the most 91 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,839 beautifully written documents ever, it's just the same it was 92 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,079 written by hypocrites and it was not followed through for 93 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,680 all people. So when we started to look at that, 94 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,279 the first thing I think when you talk about a 95 00:05:46,319 --> 00:05:50,079 psychological healing, because just for example, Dominique, if I harm 96 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:51,879 you and I say I'm sorry, but you know I 97 00:05:51,879 --> 00:05:55,000 don't mean it, everything else don't really matter because you 98 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,399 said I'm still don't feel that warmth of inclusion. And 99 00:05:58,439 --> 00:06:02,040 when we talk about America specific, what that apology starts 100 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,160 to stay is this, we are sorry, and we see 101 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,240 you as a true American, not a second class citizen, 102 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,360 not somebody who's our burden, but really a part of 103 00:06:11,399 --> 00:06:13,759 this true fabric. And since we built it, we are 104 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,199 the fabric to say we not only recognize as part 105 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,680 of the fabric, but we recognize as being the pillar 106 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,279 and the foundation of helping to get this country to 107 00:06:21,319 --> 00:06:24,319 where it's at. And until we get that level of apology, 108 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,600 all the other things we get, which would be good, 109 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,920 it still would be hollow and ringing true, specifically as 110 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,199 it relates to continual justice, because one of the other 111 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,920 icons of reparation is saying, not only are we sorry, 112 00:06:37,639 --> 00:06:39,519 not only are we going to repair the harm, but 113 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,279 we're going to promise not to what to redo the harm. 114 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,040 And as we look at what America is doing now, 115 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,920 not only are they not going towards reparations, they're going 116 00:06:46,959 --> 00:06:50,120 towards the backwards. They're going towards the thing to eliminate 117 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,279 and remove right. So any apology that might have been 118 00:06:53,319 --> 00:06:56,079 given half heartedly in the past proves to be what 119 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:57,759 disrespectful and untrue. 120 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: Well of just answered the question that I was going 121 00:07:01,879 --> 00:07:03,480 to ask, but I'm gonna throw it out there anyway 122 00:07:03,519 --> 00:07:05,279 because it's kind of it could be a follow up 123 00:07:05,319 --> 00:07:07,879 to what you're talking about, which is that some people 124 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,399 do feel like we don't want any apologies, apologies or bs. 125 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,759 You know, the state of California one of the few 126 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,160 things that has passed and there have been a handful 127 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,519 since the task Force. The Reparations Task Force here in 128 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:27,040 California released their massive report was an apology, and there's 129 00:07:27,199 --> 00:07:29,439 plenty of people that turn their nose up at that 130 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,160 and feel like, well, that's just a symbol. That doesn't 131 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,000 mean anything. I had always wondered like, doesn't I wouldn't 132 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,319 think it would help you in court. I would think 133 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,920 it would help you to build something. But it sounds 134 00:07:40,959 --> 00:07:47,319 to me like there's a mental health aspect to an apology. 135 00:07:47,879 --> 00:07:52,360 And also what there are elements that make a legit 136 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,439 apology as opposed to a phony one. 137 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 3: And see that's it, right, there is the apology sincere 138 00:08:00,079 --> 00:08:01,680 because I tell you this, and this is working with 139 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:06,759 people working with couples who's gone through abusive situations, going 140 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:11,000 with couples where people have taken money, are taken the 141 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,560 money that was allocated for certain things and mishandled it. 142 00:08:13,839 --> 00:08:16,920 I'm talking about France siblings who were hurt and mad 143 00:08:16,959 --> 00:08:22,519 at each other. The apology when done sincere, Oh, it 144 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,879 matters so much because what did we say? A true 145 00:08:24,959 --> 00:08:28,040 part of the sincerity of the apology is it's the 146 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,959 following actions afterwards. So words mean nothing that the actions 147 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,679 don't follow. But could you imagine if America apologize, Let's say, 148 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,919 what if, hypothetically, but then they started to treat every 149 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,720 black American, every person of African descent, the same way 150 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,639 that all what they considered and that was really the 151 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,159 white Anglo Saxon Protestant land only man in the Constitution 152 00:08:51,759 --> 00:08:54,840 treated us like that, then America truly would be the 153 00:08:54,879 --> 00:08:57,240 great place. It would be that great experiment where everybody 154 00:08:57,279 --> 00:08:59,600 could come in and be treated as one. What makes 155 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,159 that aology insincere is that what we know that it's 156 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,159 not true. So that's why we don't need an insincere apology. 157 00:09:06,279 --> 00:09:08,799 But if we had a sincere apology that followed with 158 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,639 actions were giving us true justice, where we didn't see 159 00:09:11,639 --> 00:09:15,799 our children being beaten and killed mercilessly in the streets 160 00:09:15,799 --> 00:09:18,720 without any justice, if we saw correct schools, if we 161 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,679 didn't see the harm and harassment that's taking place within 162 00:09:21,759 --> 00:09:24,320 the medical field, if we saw those things, oh, that 163 00:09:24,399 --> 00:09:27,120 apology would be sweet and beautiful. We go back to 164 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,440 the civil rights, as you said in eighteen sixty five, 165 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,360 when this was supposedly the time for what the soul 166 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,600 of America told redeem herself. And that's what it looked 167 00:09:35,639 --> 00:09:37,919 like when Abraham Lincoln, not giving him too much credit, 168 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,639 but just that whole scene in that time where you say, oh, 169 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,720 guess what we are freed men. My uncle name was 170 00:09:43,799 --> 00:09:46,039 Charles Freeman, and I used to be so jealous of 171 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,440 his name because he said, I didn't know what we 172 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,440 didn't know what our name was, but we knew we 173 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,919 was a free man. They had that right to rename themselves. 174 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,159 And so when you look at those twelve years that 175 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,679 we had in freedom, you said, oh, what a time 176 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,320 it was. But when they saw how educated we got, 177 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,759 when they saw how much we took to politics, when 178 00:10:03,759 --> 00:10:05,799 they saw we already had the skills from being in 179 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,440 the fields those years, they said, oh, we got to 180 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,000 step back. And that's when Jim Crow stepped in because 181 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,159 they had to find another way, even though we had 182 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:13,720 convict LEAs and so we don't want to act like 183 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,879 it was perfect during the time. But when they did, 184 00:10:15,919 --> 00:10:18,039 Jim Crow, that was to double down and say, we 185 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,000 can't do slavery in the way it was, but we're 186 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,120 going to reinvent it. So that made all of those apologies. 187 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,960 Not only was it that, but the new leaders Andrew 188 00:10:27,039 --> 00:10:30,080 Jackson came in, said we're going to take away filled 189 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,720 Operation fifteen. We're going to take away the land that 190 00:10:33,799 --> 00:10:35,320 you got. And not only were we going to take 191 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,399 away the land, we're going to party those Confederate soldiers 192 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,960 who fought against the Union and give them and their 193 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,360 family's land back that was taken away from them for 194 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,120 being traders. So when you have apologies that go backwards, 195 00:10:47,159 --> 00:10:50,440 those mean nothing because those actions didn't follow. But if 196 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,879 America would, and I said again in a hypothetical situation, 197 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,519 if those words could ring true, and sincere oh for 198 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,879 a mental health standpoint, it would be beauty because just 199 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,679 like our ancestors from eighteen sixty five to eighteen seventy 200 00:11:04,759 --> 00:11:07,799 was living amongst those who had enslaved them, but was 201 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,679 turning it around. That's the beauty of our people. We 202 00:11:10,759 --> 00:11:14,720 are magnanimous and forgiving and loving people. We were actually 203 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,600 going to live with those who are our captors once 204 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,080 they gave us, well, once we got our freedom back. 205 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,440 They didn't give us nothing back, but once they stopped 206 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,440 trying to hinder us from it and was giving us 207 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,679 a pathway to citizenship, to freedom, to have an equity 208 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,159 within the country, they were willing to do that, even 209 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,039 after all of that pain, and brutality. So nobody can 210 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,879 tell me that an apology doesn't mean anything. It just 211 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,519 has to be a sincere apology followed by actions. 212 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: Doctor Quakeku is here and if you have something to say, 213 00:11:45,879 --> 00:11:48,679 you can call in eight hundred and nine to fifteen eighty. 214 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:54,039 He's the president of Blacksmith Psychological Consultative Services. Else will 215 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,919 continue the conversation the mental health side of repair on 216 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:03,519 this Freedom and Friday only on KBLA Talk fifteen eighty 217 00:12:03,639 --> 00:12:07,960 talking with doctor Kwaku talking mental health and reparations and 218 00:12:09,399 --> 00:12:12,200 the question of an apology, the question of how we 219 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,519 are treated in the broader society. I mean, we can 220 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,720 go into that a little bit more in depth, but 221 00:12:16,799 --> 00:12:19,519 I want to make sure that the hour doesn't pass 222 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,919 without looking at which part of the repair that we 223 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,399 have to do in terms of our spirits, our soul, 224 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:33,080 our psyche is our own charge. I think about you 225 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:39,960 know doctor Joy degru in post traumatic slaves syndrome. Yeah 226 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,840 or she she speaks on habits and reflexes that we 227 00:12:44,039 --> 00:12:47,639 have that we've inherited from enslavement and Jim Crow, which 228 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,360 we may not even be conscious of. 229 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you and my notes because I love the 230 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,320 Queen Mother Joy. I might have had a chance to 231 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,799 speak with her and work with her on several occasions 232 00:12:58,879 --> 00:13:01,240 when she's come to a walk, and I think her 233 00:13:01,279 --> 00:13:03,879 book hits the point. But I think it's a term 234 00:13:03,919 --> 00:13:06,519 that we all know. When we hear the term sankopha, 235 00:13:07,159 --> 00:13:09,840 you know it's a return and go get it. You've 236 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,600 had the chance to, you know, put your feet on 237 00:13:11,639 --> 00:13:14,039 the soil of the motherland, and when you go back, 238 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,120 what you recognize, especially being in those dungeons where they 239 00:13:17,159 --> 00:13:21,080 held our ancestors. You see the pain, you see the frustration, 240 00:13:21,159 --> 00:13:24,679 you see the herd. But you also wonder what type 241 00:13:24,799 --> 00:13:28,519 of currency was in our DNA that allowed them to survive, 242 00:13:28,639 --> 00:13:31,279 that to allow them not only to survive, but to 243 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,480 thrive in the land that we are. So what's inside 244 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,720 of us? There's a sporting brand called Actively Black and 245 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,559 they talk about one of their taglines is greatness is 246 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,720 in our DNA. And I think what the indoctrination of 247 00:13:43,759 --> 00:13:45,759 America has done has made us forget who we were. 248 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,480 And it's just like a person who had some type 249 00:13:48,519 --> 00:13:50,759 of traumatic brain injury and some form of MNS and 250 00:13:50,759 --> 00:13:53,120 they didn't know how great they were. They have to relearn. 251 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,600 But the beautiful thing about when you go back to 252 00:13:55,639 --> 00:13:57,919 the san Copha and you start to learn exactly who 253 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,799 you are, you start to recogniz that's who you are. 254 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,240 And then what you do is, I don't want to 255 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,480 get too technical, but now we go into quantum physics 256 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,559 with this healing, because when you start talking about quantum physics, 257 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,399 you understand the first law thermo dynamics, what the energy 258 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,600 is near the created or destroyed, it's just what it's transferred. 259 00:14:14,799 --> 00:14:16,360 So what we got to understand is how do we 260 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,679 transfer back from that negativity to that positivity. And when 261 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,200 you get into that, you go into quantum entanglements. And 262 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,440 that's how do we reach back to our ancestors and 263 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,519 even reach to the future of our posterity and bring 264 00:14:27,559 --> 00:14:29,879 all of those voices from time and space together and 265 00:14:29,879 --> 00:14:32,399 to say, what, let me recognize who I was and 266 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,320 who I can be. I think one of the biggest 267 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,559 lines that kind of bring that together, even though it 268 00:14:37,639 --> 00:14:41,200 was science fiction, was from the movie Centers when they 269 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,360 were singing that song and you could see blended voices 270 00:14:44,399 --> 00:14:46,960 from the past and blended voices from the future. You 271 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,080 could see that energy and even though it wasn't there 272 00:14:49,159 --> 00:14:51,919 physical was there in a spiritual space. And so you say, 273 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,120 how do we go back to that healing? We have 274 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,080 to go back and reawaken that cellular DNA from when 275 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,720 we were kings and queens, when we were architects, engineers, 276 00:15:00,759 --> 00:15:03,919 to the highest level before than doctrination of the American 277 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,559 spirit and go back. But what is America has taught 278 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,799 us so many time is to be afraid of who 279 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,360 we are as Africans, not to want to be associated 280 00:15:11,559 --> 00:15:13,799 with the continent, not to be associated with the land. 281 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,440 And that's the first part of what any type of 282 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,279 colonization is to make you forget who you are. So 283 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,120 when people ask me why do I change my name? 284 00:15:21,159 --> 00:15:24,440 I said, it is mandatory when not just white people, 285 00:15:24,519 --> 00:15:26,200 but even more people for them to have to say 286 00:15:26,279 --> 00:15:29,080 Quai kuwam Oassi because it's saying the name what's wway 287 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,159 heally saying the name from that motherland, it reawakens something 288 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,600 in them that they don't know because it's going back 289 00:15:35,639 --> 00:15:38,039 to go get who I was. And if we're going 290 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,799 to heal, and we were already healed from the beginning, 291 00:15:41,159 --> 00:15:43,279 we just have to do something almost like with our 292 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,519 body when you scratch your body and it's a sowred. 293 00:15:46,799 --> 00:15:48,799 What do people say, Hey, just get out the way, 294 00:15:48,879 --> 00:15:51,919 let it heal itself. But the problem is we're busy 295 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,399 picking at the scalp, and from a metaphorical standpoint, picking 296 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,960 at the staff is what learning these American ways, trying 297 00:15:59,039 --> 00:16:02,159 so hard to fit in to the colonization and the 298 00:16:02,159 --> 00:16:04,879 things of America. And so as we continue to do that, 299 00:16:04,919 --> 00:16:07,240 we're going to be further and further away from our spirit. 300 00:16:07,519 --> 00:16:10,399 And that's what keeps us in a state of chaos. 301 00:16:10,559 --> 00:16:14,000 And the opposite of chaos is what the cosmosis, or order. 302 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,279 So for us to be orderly, we have to go 303 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,240 back and be ordered to what the roots of our ancestors. 304 00:16:19,279 --> 00:16:21,440 So until we're willing to do that, we're going to 305 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,279 stay spiraling in the land that wasn't really meant for us, 306 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,039 trying to fit into a place that doesn't want us. 307 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,399 When we start talking about this system, how do we 308 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,120 fix the system? Well, what's the saying that everybody says? 309 00:16:32,159 --> 00:16:35,120 There's nothing wrong with the system. The system is doing 310 00:16:35,159 --> 00:16:37,679 exactly what it's designed to do. So if we know 311 00:16:37,799 --> 00:16:40,360 the system is built upon our destruction, we know the 312 00:16:40,399 --> 00:16:44,480 system is built on oppressing those who are marginalized and ostracized, 313 00:16:44,679 --> 00:16:47,120 and we keep trying to fit into that system. What 314 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,399 we're saying is we're welcoming the chaos into our life. 315 00:16:50,399 --> 00:16:53,360 We're welcoming a mental dysfunction. So until we're willing to 316 00:16:53,399 --> 00:16:56,720 go and find who we truly are tapping into that spirit, 317 00:16:56,919 --> 00:17:02,759 we're going to remain in a state of really emotional psychosis. 318 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,839 Speaker 2: Okay, the lots of lots of unboxed there. 319 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: I do think that you know, I've been to Africa 320 00:17:09,799 --> 00:17:13,880 seven times, different countries, different places, very very much consider 321 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,319 myself a Pan Africanist. But there's something that the within 322 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:21,599 the reparation space that I think the lineage folks really 323 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,160 have made a strong, compelling and important point about, which 324 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:31,480 is that our ancestors, as Black Americans, as freedmen, as 325 00:17:32,039 --> 00:17:37,720 whatever you know, negroes, whatever term works for you, also 326 00:17:37,759 --> 00:17:42,640 are very specific, right, and they also deserve very specific light. 327 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:50,480 You know, my my great great grandma, you know, Delphia Archie, 328 00:17:50,759 --> 00:17:55,599 who came off the plantation as a teenager, and you 329 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,599 know she was she was a teenager when the emancipation 330 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:07,240 was proclaimed, and so I do feel like I gained 331 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,680 strength and power and the long lineage and continuity of 332 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,440 our DNA by going to the motherland. 333 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: But I also think. 334 00:18:13,559 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: There's something really important for us, and I'm talking psychologically 335 00:18:17,079 --> 00:18:23,000 right now, but also spiritually about recognizing the specific sacrifice 336 00:18:23,039 --> 00:18:28,200 and the specific triumph of those Black American ancestors, those 337 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:32,440 black US American ancestors who built the White House, who 338 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,000 built this country. Whether they wanted us or not, they 339 00:18:35,039 --> 00:18:37,440 would have no country. We would in this nation would 340 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,400 not be a superpower without the blood, sweat and actual 341 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:47,480 human sacrifice of our ancestors, specifically as Black Americans. 342 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:53,319 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, those are all valid points. And 343 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,599 how can you argue with those things? If I could 344 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:05,079 be so humble and submit a copy at today Look 345 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,400 at Ghana with the Black Star when they gained their freedom, 346 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,599 Kwame Kermer said, we are not free until all Africa 347 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,519 is free. When I went to Ghana and where I 348 00:19:16,599 --> 00:19:20,039 received my name in Cape Coles, I said, I don't 349 00:19:20,079 --> 00:19:21,759 want to just get a name. Remember we talked about 350 00:19:21,759 --> 00:19:23,920 symbolic apology. I said I don't want a name just 351 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,920 to get a name. And I remember the chief looking 352 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,440 at me and said, oh no, don't do that. He said, 353 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,480 we might not know where you're at but you're from here. 354 00:19:30,559 --> 00:19:33,720 Now you are ours. He said, not only will I 355 00:19:33,759 --> 00:19:35,279 give you a name, I will give you my name. 356 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,279 Quaker is my day name. Just he who was born 357 00:19:37,319 --> 00:19:41,359 on Wednesday. Atrophy is a person from the village, an 358 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,920 elder from the village. In Amasi is the surname of 359 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,960 the chief. And what he said, I want to let 360 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,519 you know is this. Maybe this was not your people, 361 00:19:48,519 --> 00:19:50,640 but it is now. So I say that to say this. 362 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,559 My people came on the boat too. So I know 363 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,480 that my lineage comes from West Africa. I know that 364 00:19:59,599 --> 00:20:02,240 we are people who get the blood, sweat and toil, 365 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,400 the blood, sweat and tears and toiled this land. But 366 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,279 I say this, if I get something and the brother 367 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,079 who looks like me, and even though his ancestors didn 368 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,039 suffering the same way in the same land, I would 369 00:20:14,079 --> 00:20:16,640 still be remiss for them not to share in the 370 00:20:16,759 --> 00:20:19,079 coming up of what we did. Because he said, we 371 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,400 cannot be free to all our Africa's friend, I feel 372 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,640 like that as a person. He said, I'm not Africa 373 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,119 because I was born in Africa. I'm Africa because African 374 00:20:26,279 --> 00:20:29,440 was born in me. So anybody who's affiliated with the 375 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,960 continent and you know we say, ooh, you know our people, 376 00:20:33,559 --> 00:20:35,519 but our people were brought here. Let's just say we 377 00:20:35,559 --> 00:20:38,640 go with the date sixteen nineteen were American wasn't evented 378 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,440 till seventeen seventy six. So that's the British. So that 379 00:20:41,559 --> 00:20:43,599 means the British Olderness money. And I've heard you talk 380 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,799 about this, the do Us, the Portuguese, the French and 381 00:20:45,839 --> 00:20:48,640 all of those people. And I've heard doctor Chael Grills 382 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,240 come on to talk about, Hey, you know what, I 383 00:20:51,279 --> 00:20:53,920 had cousins in Jamaica. I had cousins in Turks and Cables. 384 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,319 I had cousins in Granada. I got cousins in Brazil. 385 00:20:56,519 --> 00:20:59,039 When you look at how we were wiped and spread 386 00:20:59,039 --> 00:21:01,559 apart in the Diaster, In fact, forty seven percent of 387 00:21:01,599 --> 00:21:04,240 us will shipp to Brazil. So when you look at 388 00:21:04,279 --> 00:21:06,759 all of those places from over, I say, we steal 389 00:21:06,839 --> 00:21:10,400 our Wand if we are paying Africans, that means no 390 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,200 matter who did what or who suffered where, we all 391 00:21:13,279 --> 00:21:17,000 suffered in some sense. And though we can't quantify exactly 392 00:21:17,039 --> 00:21:20,599 who did everything, you your parents might have did ten percent, 393 00:21:20,599 --> 00:21:22,359 of the lift of mind might have did eighty percent. 394 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,720 But guess what we're going to share in this pot altogether, 395 00:21:24,799 --> 00:21:27,000 because at the end of the day, we're want so 396 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,400 to that argument. I don't discount that those with leneas 397 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,000 would have an argument to say we deserve more. But 398 00:21:33,079 --> 00:21:35,799 if you get more and your brotherre and suffering, how 399 00:21:35,839 --> 00:21:37,519 can you steal be free? 400 00:21:37,559 --> 00:21:39,279 Speaker 1: How can you Okay, we're gonna we have to leave 401 00:21:39,319 --> 00:21:41,079 it right there. We've got a hard stuff for news, 402 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,000 traffic and sports and we will continue. Okay, b LA 403 00:21:44,079 --> 00:21:46,680 Talk fifteen eight. Welcome back to Friedman Friday. We are 404 00:21:46,759 --> 00:21:50,359 talking reparations, the mental health aspect of it, something I 405 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,799 think we really could spend more time on where with 406 00:21:54,480 --> 00:22:02,680 doctor QUAKEU a'massie and we we're digging into a whole 407 00:22:02,759 --> 00:22:07,000 bunch of stuff before news, traffic and sports, including you 408 00:22:07,039 --> 00:22:11,920 know what does what part of the repair is our responsibility? 409 00:22:12,039 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 3: Right? 410 00:22:12,599 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: What part of the repair Obviously we're not when you 411 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:20,400 talk about cutting a check, changing policies and the national, international, 412 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:26,799 municipal aspects, uh politically of reparations. That's one thing. When 413 00:22:26,799 --> 00:22:31,559 you talk about healing our spirit, our mind and subsequently 414 00:22:31,759 --> 00:22:35,160 the body, since they're connected, how much of that is 415 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,480 our responsibility? How much of it is something that has 416 00:22:38,559 --> 00:22:47,279 to be handled independent or maybe separate from from you know, 417 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:48,279 the public space. 418 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I know I veered off from that. So 419 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,079 to answer that question of it is our responsibility. You 420 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,759 think about a person who's been abused. Sometimes you never 421 00:22:58,799 --> 00:23:01,680 get closed or from the person who abuse you, But 422 00:23:01,799 --> 00:23:03,960 that means, well, how do you still stay home? How 423 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,039 do you not let that abuse or inn take a 424 00:23:06,079 --> 00:23:08,160 part of your life? So when we say what do 425 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,200 we do, it's one hundred percent of ours. And we 426 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,559 talked about kind of like the energy, how do we 427 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,440 transfer that energy within ourselves to be our very best selves? 428 00:23:16,599 --> 00:23:18,519 So when we started talking about what is the work 429 00:23:18,559 --> 00:23:19,920 that we have to do where we have to look 430 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,960 and say, well, where am I hurting? How am I 431 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,880 showing this hurt? How is it manifesting in my family? 432 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,599 How is it manifesting in my work? How's it manifesting 433 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,200 in my community? How's it manifesting in how even I 434 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,319 treat myself? And so this is where we have to 435 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,559 do a deep dive of self introspection and really look 436 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,839 and say, what are the ways in which I'm hurting 437 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,480 those areas in which I claim to love? And once 438 00:23:39,519 --> 00:23:42,000 we find those areas now we have to dig in 439 00:23:42,039 --> 00:23:45,000 deep and say how do I do better? The commercial 440 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,759 a little bit before I came on, the announcer said, 441 00:23:47,839 --> 00:23:50,160 when you know better, you do better, and a chuckle, 442 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,000 because that's what my mother used to tell me all 443 00:23:52,039 --> 00:23:52,680 the time. 444 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 2: When I'm a child. 445 00:23:53,519 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 3: So she said, my child is to teach you better. 446 00:23:55,519 --> 00:23:57,559 Now you know better, do But so now we know 447 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,599 that we're not getting that apology from A because they 448 00:24:00,599 --> 00:24:03,039 had time to so we're not getting it. So let's 449 00:24:03,039 --> 00:24:05,400 not be naives. So now the question is how do 450 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,519 we heal? That's why when you look at people like 451 00:24:07,559 --> 00:24:10,759 the Honorable Elijah Muhammad Message to the Black Man, when 452 00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:13,640 we read the autobiography of Malcolm X, when we read 453 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,440 post Traumatic Slave Syndrome by Joy the Group, when we 454 00:24:16,519 --> 00:24:19,279 read Cast by Isabelle Workers, and when we look at 455 00:24:19,319 --> 00:24:22,839 all of these different things, we say, ooh, how do 456 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,240 I get better? When I look at the Wretched of 457 00:24:25,279 --> 00:24:27,079 the Earth by Friends, and now what I started to 458 00:24:27,079 --> 00:24:29,400 do is I started to look at those liberatory killers, 459 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,200 those people like the w'd be the Boys, those people 460 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,000 who seem to have an answer to those things, to say, 461 00:24:35,079 --> 00:24:37,480 how can I tap into what they were doing? So 462 00:24:37,599 --> 00:24:39,200 what I love to do is I love to stay 463 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,839 in the community with people who are like minded, because 464 00:24:41,839 --> 00:24:44,160 when I'm around it like minded, guess what, that's the 465 00:24:44,319 --> 00:24:46,960 energy and the spirit I get. We often talk about 466 00:24:47,079 --> 00:24:50,640 how does a person like resonate on the frequencies their vibrations. 467 00:24:50,799 --> 00:24:53,799 If you're around low vibrational people, that becomes your spirit. 468 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,000 It's a complaining spirit, it's a sagging spirit, it's a 469 00:24:57,079 --> 00:24:59,720 whate was me spirit. But when I get around people say, 470 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,279 I'm in power to understand where I sit in this world. 471 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,079 But I also understand and they're not gonna let this happen. 472 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,240 I worked in corrections for a while, and what the 473 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,200 correction person will say, I say this and let you 474 00:25:10,279 --> 00:25:12,960 ask the next question. He would tell. One of the 475 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,799 staff sergeant would tell the people say, you might have 476 00:25:14,839 --> 00:25:17,240 been born in check, but that don't mean you got 477 00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:20,039 to get check made it. And that's what I tell everybody. Listen, 478 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,160 we understand that everything was not set up for us. 479 00:25:23,279 --> 00:25:25,240 But when we look at how resilient we are and 480 00:25:25,279 --> 00:25:27,559 the beautiful things we've done, we just say, how can 481 00:25:27,599 --> 00:25:29,599 we do that? But on the level, we're not just 482 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,480 material success, So we have to define what success is. 483 00:25:32,759 --> 00:25:35,319 But to have that success that brings that internal happiness 484 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,200 and joy Bahemus. 485 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,759 Speaker 1: In the chat, she says restitution is the duty of 486 00:25:39,799 --> 00:25:42,880 the offender, a debt that is owed, but personal and 487 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:47,720 collective healing is on the survivors of that community. 488 00:25:47,799 --> 00:25:48,519 Speaker 2: Do you agree with that? 489 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,039 Speaker 3: I say that's what we just said. The America owes us, 490 00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:55,359 So we're not stopping with restitution. And I tell people 491 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,400 either they give it to us or we take it. 492 00:25:57,799 --> 00:25:59,799 It's got to be one of the two. But as 493 00:25:59,799 --> 00:26:02,720 it relates to healing, we can't get that restitution. We 494 00:26:02,839 --> 00:26:06,000 can't get even if we got reparations, but we're not 495 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,680 mentally and emotionally heal. It does nothing because we stay 496 00:26:10,039 --> 00:26:12,720 mired in that low space. So when we start talking 497 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,640 about what do we have to do, what we have 498 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:19,799 to do is restrategize. Audrey Lord famously said the tools 499 00:26:19,839 --> 00:26:23,599 of the master will never dismatch to the master's house. Well, 500 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,880 the biggest tool is the government. So as we try 501 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,359 to work within this government system, I think is as 502 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,359 a as a fool's journey. And not to say that 503 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,960 those elders and ancestors who work so hard from encobra 504 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,880 Hr forty, what they're doing in great work in California. 505 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,279 I think those things need to be laid. But just 506 00:26:44,319 --> 00:26:46,000 to show us to the point that no matter how 507 00:26:46,039 --> 00:26:49,440 hard we try to work, they're not listening, they don't care, 508 00:26:50,079 --> 00:26:52,839 they're not going to help us. When we start talking 509 00:26:52,839 --> 00:26:56,279 about the ancestors, Frederick Douglas famously said he said power 510 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,160 can seize nothing with the other man of demand, but 511 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,039 people usually kind of leave it there. But he said, 512 00:27:02,039 --> 00:27:04,559 find out just what any people will quietly submit to, 513 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,640 and you will find the exact measure of injustice and 514 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,279 wrong which will be imposed upon them. I think we 515 00:27:10,319 --> 00:27:12,599 are so nice, we are so magnanimous, we are so 516 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,240 beautiful over people that we continue to take this disrespect, 517 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,160 and that's why it keeps putting on to us. It 518 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,960 was also lengthy Hughes and said Negroes Meek mob Di 519 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,839 silent Ki beware the day they changed their mind. So 520 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,960 I think it's time we change our mind. But we 521 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,039 can only do that with getting that renewed mind that 522 00:27:30,079 --> 00:27:31,279 we talked about initially. 523 00:27:32,599 --> 00:27:36,519 Speaker 1: We're going to go to Dwight from Compton. Good morning, Dwight, 524 00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:38,079 You're on with doctor Quaku. 525 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:38,519 Speaker 2: Welcome. 526 00:27:39,839 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 4: Good morning, Good morning, Dominique, Good morning, doctor Quak Whu, 527 00:27:42,599 --> 00:27:44,799 thank you so much for giving them on the nation 528 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,599 and inspiring us. I just had a curiosity. I know, 529 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,880 every time we hear about the forty acres given to 530 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,880 the slaves from Special Special Order fifteen at President Abraham 531 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,519 Lincoln signed yeah, and and I said, if they had 532 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,359 and then they did a census in eighteen sixty. I 533 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,160 didn't even know they were doing ciss back then. And 534 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,160 they had four million slaves back then, and they had 535 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,960 four million slaves got forty acres, it would have equaled 536 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:17,279 one hundred and sixty million acres, which equals the land 537 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,599 mask almost of California and Oregon. 538 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 3: So that was just kind of an interesting thought that 539 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:24,519 I heard. 540 00:28:24,599 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, then a. 541 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: Lot of it got taken back and seized and whatnot. 542 00:28:27,759 --> 00:28:30,960 Not to be depressing, but yeah, I mean, and that's 543 00:28:31,519 --> 00:28:35,799 part of the basis for this idea, that this the 544 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,519 knowledge that reparations is a debt. It's not charity, it's 545 00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:43,200 not welfare. It is a debt that is owed to 546 00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:46,799 us and was promised to us, and it's still that 547 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,039 debt still do did you want to speak on that, 548 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:50,839 doctor Quicku. 549 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,559 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I just think it's to the point where 550 00:28:54,559 --> 00:28:58,440 we can say that reparations as we are hoping to 551 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,319 get will show to be futile. Because once they started 552 00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:04,319 to do it and they saw what we was doing, 553 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,960 what we could do, what we could potentially could become 554 00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:08,960 in this country, they said, oh, we can't have that. 555 00:29:09,559 --> 00:29:12,240 So you know, Juwanza can Jufu famous. They had the 556 00:29:12,279 --> 00:29:14,359 books that kill him before they grow or one of 557 00:29:14,359 --> 00:29:16,799 his things, he would say. And I think that was it. 558 00:29:16,839 --> 00:29:19,599 When they saw us rising as a nation within this 559 00:29:19,759 --> 00:29:22,559 nation where we were once enslaved to now to be rulers, 560 00:29:22,559 --> 00:29:25,079 to have people who be sitting governors or excuse me, 561 00:29:25,119 --> 00:29:27,880 lieutenant governors and senators and then the House and what 562 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,640 not like that, they were say, oh, we have to stop. 563 00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:32,359 And that's when the plan came for the convict lease, 564 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,680 and that's when they're plan for Plessy versus Ferguson and 565 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,000 all of those things came to say, hey, we can't 566 00:29:37,039 --> 00:29:39,680 allow this. So I'm saying to all of us is 567 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,039 we have to recognize they owe us, but they're not 568 00:29:42,079 --> 00:29:44,880 giving it to us. They gave money to the Jews, 569 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,519 they gave money to the Japanese, so when they want 570 00:29:47,519 --> 00:29:49,680 to give money, they know how to give money. They 571 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,720 did a Marshall Plan for people who we were at 572 00:29:51,799 --> 00:29:55,640 war with to rebuild their nations. So if they wanted 573 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,039 to do it, they would have done this. They told 574 00:29:58,119 --> 00:30:00,920 us over and over and over it again. I was 575 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,599 listening to I Love doctor Cheryl Grills and I was 576 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,240 listening to her on Freedman's and she was talking about 577 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,240 how Governor Newsom had did the committee had appointed her, 578 00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:14,839 but she said, I'm less than encouraged to say. He 579 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,079 hasn't been really involved because he was running for president. 580 00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:21,160 He didn't want that stigma attached. And you think about 581 00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:24,240 any person who's run for president, maybe say for mary 582 00:30:24,279 --> 00:30:29,359 Anne Williamson, who has really talked about reparations, and what 583 00:30:29,359 --> 00:30:31,240 they're telling us is they're not going to give it 584 00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:33,759 to us in the way we're asking. And if we 585 00:30:33,839 --> 00:30:36,799 keep asking, it's the biggest gaslight. And I think that's 586 00:30:36,839 --> 00:30:40,240 from a mental health standpoint, is the most frustrating. We 587 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,440 can't be Charlie Brown trying to kick this football knowing 588 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:44,400 they're going to pick it up. 589 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,839 Speaker 2: But we are. But we are making progress. 590 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at it politically, yeah, I 591 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,400 don't think they'll ever be like here you go Cinderella, 592 00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:55,799 here's your you know, here's your forty acres. But I mean, 593 00:30:55,839 --> 00:30:58,839 you do have commissions, you do have you know, Evanston, 594 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,920 where actual checks are going out, you have people getting 595 00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:05,440 land backs. So even though it's hard fought every step 596 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,079 of the way, it's I don't know if i'd put 597 00:31:08,119 --> 00:31:10,519 it in the category of Charlie Brown, because we are 598 00:31:10,759 --> 00:31:12,640 forcing progress. 599 00:31:14,079 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 3: And I will never fight against progress. I'll never fight 600 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,359 against small victories because those small victories aren't small. But 601 00:31:20,599 --> 00:31:22,519 this is what I'll say. See, this is the biggest 602 00:31:22,519 --> 00:31:25,640 gas like, this is the biggest mental manipulation. Remember when 603 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,759 Barack Obama was elected and they said we're in a 604 00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:29,079 post racial society. 605 00:31:29,519 --> 00:31:33,279 Speaker 1: They I mean, but only idiots believe that. 606 00:31:33,359 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sorry, when you live in America, have 607 00:31:36,119 --> 00:31:37,519 you met America? 608 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 3: Okay? I want to make if I can make that 609 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,039 same thing to reparations, because I don't want part of 610 00:31:44,079 --> 00:31:46,799 what you mean. Remember Malcolm X said, he said, if 611 00:31:46,799 --> 00:31:49,920 the knife is in my back nine inches, don't pull 612 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,960 it out six or three inches and say we've made progress. 613 00:31:53,279 --> 00:31:56,119 There's no progress till the knife is out, the wound 614 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,480 is healed, and there's no possibility for that knife to 615 00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:00,799 inflict harm on me again. 616 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 2: But you're not. 617 00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: But you're not suggesting we just threw up our hands 618 00:32:04,039 --> 00:32:04,599 and give up. 619 00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:08,519 Speaker 3: No, no, we owe Listen what I'm saying I'm trying 620 00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:10,400 not to say on your radio and with the words 621 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,880 or I would put a disclaimer for KBLA, these other 622 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,440 words of doctor Quai cool with not KBLA radio face. 623 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,240 I think we are too nice with the reparations. I 624 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,440 think we need to do something more forceful. And it 625 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,200 doesn't always have to be violent to be forceful. There's 626 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,519 many ways you can be financially violent. You could be 627 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,079 violent in different types of ways. That's why Martin Luther 628 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,799 King boycotts were they were financially violent. But we have 629 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,480 to be violent to the way in which we let 630 00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:39,279 them know we're not asking, we're taking. And until we 631 00:32:39,319 --> 00:32:42,079 do that, they're going to continue to give us crams 632 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,279 to appease us, but never give us what they owe us. 633 00:32:45,319 --> 00:32:46,880 And until you give me what you owe me and 634 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,400 whole if I loan you two million dollars Dominique, and 635 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:55,039 then you give me back thirty eight dollars that don't 636 00:32:55,079 --> 00:32:56,000 really do nothing for me. 637 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,319 Speaker 1: And then I tell you, but we're making progress. I'll 638 00:32:58,359 --> 00:33:00,160 give you another thirty eight too more Bora. 639 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. It's also how long do we wait? Because because 640 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,000 if we keep saying, give me the crimes, give me 641 00:33:08,039 --> 00:33:10,559 the pieces, as hard as we working, you're showing me 642 00:33:10,759 --> 00:33:14,119 the lack of sincerity. You're showing me the lack of 643 00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:18,200 commitment to this. And so what I say is, if 644 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,359 we keep asking, they're going to keep saying no. But 645 00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:28,119 if we take it, That's why I go back to Langston, Hughes, negroes, meek, mild, disile, 646 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,839 la Kai beware of the day they change their mind. 647 00:33:32,599 --> 00:33:36,839 Speaker 1: Talking with doctor Quickuc will continue the conversation when we 648 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:37,359 come forward. 649 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:38,039 Speaker 2: You know, it's a. 650 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: Freedman Friday, so that means you are on KBLA Talk 651 00:33:41,559 --> 00:33:45,400 fifteen eighty. Molly Bell always says it, what is reparations? 652 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:46,279 Speaker 2: It is repair. 653 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,599 Speaker 1: When we talk about reparations, oftentimes we're talking about checks. 654 00:33:51,599 --> 00:33:56,039 Today we are talking about the whole. Well, what does 655 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,680 Bob Marley say, emancipate yourself from mental slavery? None but 656 00:34:00,759 --> 00:34:04,359 ourselves can free our minds. Doctor Quaku is with us, 657 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,079 how do we break? 658 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 3: Well? 659 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,639 Speaker 1: You know what, let me go in because these folks 660 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,639 are talking to you Okay, they're talking to you in 661 00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:13,400 the chat on YouTube, Forensic account And says we need 662 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,039 to stop pretending there's a chance we'll get reparations via 663 00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:22,360 the Republican Party or even close. Friday Jones says, remember 664 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,679 you take things in silence. Molly Bell says, I understand 665 00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:28,559 what our guest is saying, but we're talking about reparations repair. 666 00:34:29,039 --> 00:34:32,760 I guess I agree with President Obama. Speak it into existence. 667 00:34:33,039 --> 00:34:38,280 We're making progress. Listening, and Forensic Accountant says, a party 668 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,280 within which your ascension requires loud anti blackness is never 669 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:48,960 going to be interested in supporting reparations. Friday Jones also 670 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:54,360 calls it spiritual warfare, thoughts, well. 671 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 3: You know what, I'm a fan of Friday Jones. I 672 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,519 listened to her when she's on your show too. I 673 00:34:58,559 --> 00:35:01,119 love how she's spits it and break down. This is 674 00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:04,039 what I say as we talk about reparations and the 675 00:35:04,119 --> 00:35:06,760 mental health and the healing, these are things that we 676 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,000 have to do for ourselves. We say, you know what, 677 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,000 we stand tall because we stand on the shoulders of 678 00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:15,280 our ancestors. So the question is what will we do 679 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,119 for the next generation. For part of the mental healingness 680 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,639 is almost to Moses mentality. I might not see these reparations, 681 00:35:21,679 --> 00:35:23,760 I might not get it, but you know what, I'm 682 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,039 going to dedicate my life to making sure that it's 683 00:35:26,079 --> 00:35:28,639 better for those who come after us. When I look 684 00:35:28,679 --> 00:35:31,480 at the people who we revere from the past, and 685 00:35:31,519 --> 00:35:34,599 that's anybody who shed blood or anybody who sacrifice, from 686 00:35:34,599 --> 00:35:36,880 the Fanny Lou Hammers to the Martin Luther King, to 687 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,559 the Fred Hampton to the Medgar Evers. When we started 688 00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:41,880 to talk about the Liddes, when we started to talk 689 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,880 about all of the people who gave and gave so much, 690 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,920 the names that we don't even know when we respect them, 691 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,400 what we respect is what they did so that we 692 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,719 could have it better. And so if we want to 693 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,760 have a mental freedom and break it comes into breaking 694 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,719 this cycle. Because what it is is I'm free of 695 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,480 the I want me incarcerated. I told you I do 696 00:36:01,519 --> 00:36:03,960 a lot of work in the corrections facilities, and what 697 00:36:04,119 --> 00:36:05,960 we tell the man and say, even though you might 698 00:36:06,039 --> 00:36:09,599 be literally in this cell, how do you free your mind? 699 00:36:09,639 --> 00:36:11,119 And that's the thing for us. In the way you 700 00:36:11,199 --> 00:36:13,920 free it is by making sure you rebel against the 701 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,519 system that you know is oppressive, and you say what 702 00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:18,480 can I do to break it down? We can't all 703 00:36:18,599 --> 00:36:21,079 do everything, but if we all do our part, oh, 704 00:36:21,159 --> 00:36:23,599 that wall starts to come down. And then when you 705 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,159 leave this place, the legacy is that I did more. 706 00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:29,840 Then this world was better for me than when I 707 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,639 came in. And if we can do that for our 708 00:36:31,679 --> 00:36:34,519 people saying I made it better. But what my urge 709 00:36:34,519 --> 00:36:37,960 and my action call for everybody else is to say, 710 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,960 did we lose doctor Wakekoop, be sure yourself as to 711 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,400 help others? And when she would tell me that, it 712 00:36:46,519 --> 00:36:49,440 let me know the more I help others, the more 713 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,599 it helps to heal me. So as we go help 714 00:36:51,639 --> 00:36:54,199 our people, that's where the healing begins. 715 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,760 Speaker 1: Yes, And that goes back to what Friday is also 716 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,199 saying in the Child, which is the mental becomes taxing 717 00:37:01,199 --> 00:37:04,280 when advocates fight each other instead of the true enemy. 718 00:37:04,519 --> 00:37:07,360 That's part of it. And that also reminds me of 719 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,559 one of the things I wanted to ask you we're 720 00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:12,159 so close to the end of this hour, is that 721 00:37:13,039 --> 00:37:18,199 how do we break those generational cycles? And those crabs 722 00:37:18,199 --> 00:37:20,760 in a barrel is one example of the attitudes that 723 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:25,000 were bred into us, whipped into us, you know, intentionally 724 00:37:25,679 --> 00:37:29,599 ingrained in us in order that we would undermine ourselves. 725 00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:34,159 Speaker 3: Okay, so I love what you just said. Crabs in 726 00:37:34,159 --> 00:37:37,519 a barrel, we use that, but crabs don't live in barrels. 727 00:37:37,519 --> 00:37:40,159 That's the unnatural environment. If you put crabs in their 728 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,519 natural habitat, they help each other. So everybody homework is 729 00:37:43,559 --> 00:37:46,400 google up crabs and how they really help each other. 730 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,800 But when you're in an unnatural environment, you're going to 731 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,679 fight against each other. But you put them in their 732 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,800 natural environment, that's when they become beneficial to one another. 733 00:37:55,039 --> 00:37:57,519 So what you say is one nobody's ever going to 734 00:37:57,559 --> 00:38:01,599 be on one accord. That's why when the emancipation in 735 00:38:01,679 --> 00:38:03,960 Haiti happened, the first person is the first people that 736 00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:06,239 killed was the collaborators, the people who look like them 737 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,599 that they knew what betrayed them, so they said, we 738 00:38:08,639 --> 00:38:11,000 can't have this division. Now. The thing is, we're never 739 00:38:11,039 --> 00:38:13,599 going to agree on everything, but we have to agree 740 00:38:13,679 --> 00:38:16,079 upon a big picture. And when you get those people 741 00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:18,280 to come together agree up on the big picture, now 742 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,239 we have to reduce the egos. And that's back to 743 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,840 the sankofa. How do we become a community again, How 744 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,199 do we become communal instead of this individualistic thing that 745 00:38:28,199 --> 00:38:31,039 the indoctrination of this European society has taught us. It's 746 00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:33,159 about me and mine and my family. It's about I 747 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,639 versus we. And once we go back to our natural environment, 748 00:38:36,679 --> 00:38:41,599 our natural mind, that's where they're helping versus the fighting starts. 749 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. 750 00:38:44,119 --> 00:38:47,559 Speaker 1: Reminds me of when we were in Costa Rica and 751 00:38:47,639 --> 00:38:51,440 we saw these monkey this monkey who was raised in captivity, 752 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,719 who didn't know how to act like a monkey, and 753 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,639 then he fell in love with the monkey. 754 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:57,679 Speaker 2: This is a true story. 755 00:38:57,679 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: He fell in love with the monkey that was raised 756 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,840 in the monkey habitat in the wild, and she taught 757 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,760 them the ways of monkeys. And for me, the metaphor 758 00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:11,840 was Black Americans, you know, the descendants of enslaved persons, 759 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,320 teaching ourselves how to be ourselves. 760 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,039 Speaker 3: You know, whenever you look at any movie of some 761 00:39:19,199 --> 00:39:22,400 white missionary and they go into the Asian community, the 762 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,440 Indian community. So this person turned Indian, this person turned 763 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,400 that know what it was, even that indoctrinated mind, once 764 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,960 it saw beauty, it recognized that what they was taught 765 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,840 was wrong and they what drift to what feels good. 766 00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:37,400 And that's the same thing for our people. The more 767 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,239 we assimilated to the society, the more we want to 768 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,079 fight against ourselves. The more we move towards back to 769 00:39:43,159 --> 00:39:46,199 Saint Copa, return and go get who we are, how 770 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,239 quicker we become mentally whole and we start to have 771 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,679 some progress as a whole, as a collective, not just 772 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:53,280 as a few. 773 00:39:53,639 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: Okay, you know, I feel like I didn't get to 774 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,800 the long list of questions I had in my mind. 775 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,559 So maybe we'll do this again. But we just have 776 00:40:01,639 --> 00:40:06,400 a minute here, doctor Quaku. I'm thinking about habits we 777 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:11,159 need to break or acquire for our own repair. Maybe 778 00:40:11,199 --> 00:40:12,960 you could leave us with some thoughts on that. 779 00:40:14,559 --> 00:40:16,119 Speaker 3: Well, you're the first thing. What I say is to 780 00:40:16,159 --> 00:40:19,679 do is what we said before. Get yourself one acknowledged 781 00:40:19,679 --> 00:40:22,519 to yourself that I need some help. And once you say, hey, 782 00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:24,920 I've been indoctrinated, what do I do now? What you 783 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,639 do is you surround yourself, whether it's new books, whether 784 00:40:27,639 --> 00:40:30,960 it's listening through dominique, whether it's listening to different books 785 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,400 written by the answers the people who've done this. Nobody 786 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,760 has all the answers. But as you start to read 787 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,920 those things, you see your own cellular DNA wakings up. 788 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,639 And what we've been taught is this Every answer that 789 00:40:41,679 --> 00:40:44,800 you ever need to know lies within you. We just 790 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,960 have to get out the way. 791 00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: Remind us how to read what you write here, your podcasts, 792 00:40:52,039 --> 00:40:52,480 et cetera. 793 00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 2: Doctor Quaiku. 794 00:40:54,679 --> 00:40:57,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I write an article every week on Civic 795 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,679 Media's entitled Quaku Cipher. See why I t a t 796 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,280 r quakeku k w e k u Ceipher. I'm no 797 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,079 longer in to radio on WNLB because I've moved jobs, 798 00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:09,280 so I can't do that anymore. You know, you were. 799 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,320 You came on my show one time, which I absolutely love. 800 00:41:12,639 --> 00:41:15,199 But I still have things on the past, me and 801 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,360 my sister Lisa Mootrie, doctor Lisha Mootrie, host of the show. 802 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,880 So they can go back and look at the check 803 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,239 in and now m Boulependo on w NLV radio and 804 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,960 see some of our radio shows from the past. 805 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,280 Speaker 1: All right, well, doctor Quakku, it's always a pleasure to 806 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:30,920 talk with you. 807 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,320 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us as Friedman Friday. 808 00:41:33,559 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. Have a beautiful day. 809 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,760 Speaker 1: Indeed, we shall reparations. Now we're going to talk with 810 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,039 some I think these are Generation Alpha joining us in 811 00:41:43,039 --> 00:41:46,440 the studio, see their worldview. Need some of that ballot 812 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,719 refresher Coming up next on KBLA Talk fifteen eighty