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I Sancho, let's get into 20 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,399 a college football on Cougar Sports segment. 21 00:00:53,439 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: I want to get in some some metrics. 22 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,479 Speaker 3: I want to know who this Cougar football team has 23 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,240 been over the last three years? 24 00:00:59,399 --> 00:01:00,439 Speaker 1: What if they done well? 25 00:01:00,479 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: I always say one of my favorite lines from Three 26 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:04,400 Amigos is. 27 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: What is it that the people have sent the PoCA. 28 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,599 Speaker 3: Really does well? What is it that BYU has really 29 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,799 done well over the last three years? And what do 30 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,000 they need to improve from the last couple of years 31 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,519 to next year? 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I 41 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,200 Sancha for the VP Products, VPP service, VP discounts. 42 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,079 Speaker 3: Let's get out to the hotline. Welcome in one of 43 00:01:45,079 --> 00:01:47,200 my favorite guests. He is a man of metrics. He 44 00:01:47,239 --> 00:01:50,159 gets into the data, He delves into the data to 45 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,599 give us the truth of all things in college football. 46 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,920 Let's welcome at Bill Connley, the creator of sp plus 47 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:03,319 representing ESPN. What's up, Billing, I'm doing fantastic, Happy off 48 00:02:03,359 --> 00:02:04,159 season to you. 49 00:02:04,599 --> 00:02:06,519 Speaker 1: How is the offseason treated you thus far? 50 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 4: Bill, Well, I've an updated rosters for sp plus projections, 51 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,120 so it's really there isn't really an off season here, 52 00:02:13,159 --> 00:02:15,719 but certainly not the most demanding work in the world. 53 00:02:16,159 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 3: At least there's not like an additional aperture opening of 54 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,919 the transferportal in April, right. 55 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, So basically it's more work now, but then 56 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,240 in May I won't really have nearly as much as 57 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:28,120 I did last year. 58 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 3: That's a good thing. You can go on vacation. To me, 59 00:02:30,759 --> 00:02:32,159 that's a good time to go on vacation. 60 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,319 Speaker 5: In fact, that's where coach that's where coaches go on vacation. 61 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 6: I know that. 62 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: Yep, that's exactly when they go on vacation. 63 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:45,039 Speaker 3: So what can we surmise from the two thy twenty 64 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,240 five I know it ended in twenty twenty six final 65 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,159 College Football sp plus rankings for all one hundred and 66 00:02:53,199 --> 00:02:55,719 thirty six FBS teams. 67 00:02:55,759 --> 00:02:57,439 Speaker 1: What takeaways? 68 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 3: What gems can you derive from the data this year. 69 00:03:03,439 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 4: Well, that's possible to recruit at a top forty level 70 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,759 and produce the best team in college football. I think 71 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,000 that was pretty interesting. Yeah, I'm curious when it's time 72 00:03:12,039 --> 00:03:15,000 to kind of update how the projections work. I'm really curious, 73 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,560 you know, having Indiana as high as they were and 74 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,719 then having plenty of other schools Utah, BYU Vanderbilt, just 75 00:03:21,759 --> 00:03:24,759 a ton of schools that aren't necessarily you know, top 76 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,439 ten recruiting powerhouses, but figured out a way to build 77 00:03:27,439 --> 00:03:29,319 a really good team. I think that's really Texas Tech 78 00:03:29,439 --> 00:03:30,280 was in the. 79 00:03:30,159 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 6: Top five of US. 80 00:03:31,159 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 4: People are so really really interesting things. It's a fun 81 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,560 time to talk about the sport. I know coaches aren't 82 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,599 really enjoying themselves all that much and trying to renegotiate 83 00:03:39,639 --> 00:03:43,240 contracts every other day, but from a pure watching how 84 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,319 guys are going about building rosters, it's really really interesting. 85 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, you look at the top twenty five. 86 00:03:48,199 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 3: I was in Indiana is like this this outlier, Right, 87 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:52,199 they don't recruit. 88 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,319 Speaker 1: I think they're like they're twenty four to seven. 89 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,719 Speaker 3: Composite talent rating was like seventy second in the nation, right, 90 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,879 A talented team per se who else stands out to 91 00:04:04,879 --> 00:04:10,080 you with like maybe an underrated, maybe recruiting talent, baseline 92 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,840 talent that overachieved in the top twenty five. 93 00:04:13,639 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 4: Well, I will say, I mean as far as Texas 94 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,240 techause everybody knows, you know, how much they spent on 95 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,319 that transfer class, but I think it was really noteworthy 96 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,480 with both Tech and Indiana that yeah, I mean they 97 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,399 brought in talented guys, but everybody produced better at Tech 98 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,600 or at Indiana than in previous stop Tech. 99 00:04:28,759 --> 00:04:29,759 Speaker 5: Like obviously David. 100 00:04:29,519 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 4: Bailey was always going to be awesome, but they had 101 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,040 a lot of Romelo height. 102 00:04:32,879 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 6: Style guys on their Lee Hunter. 103 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 4: Guys who had been solid, you know, just sturdy, you know, 104 00:04:38,399 --> 00:04:41,319 college high level college football players, but then they go 105 00:04:41,439 --> 00:04:43,920 to Texas Tech and they were awesome. So I think, 106 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,839 you know, the ability to identify talent, deploy it correctly, 107 00:04:49,199 --> 00:04:50,720 you know, get the most out of it, it still 108 00:04:50,759 --> 00:04:53,560 matters a ton even if they spent twenty whatever a 109 00:04:53,639 --> 00:04:56,319 million dollars on that class, and again this year, they 110 00:04:56,319 --> 00:04:58,839 still got the right guys and that was an immensely 111 00:04:58,879 --> 00:05:00,879 impressive I. 112 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 3: Got to say that, you know, I feel pretty good 113 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,360 about where BYU's at too. They end up eighteenth in 114 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,879 the sp plus metric. Obviously eight people was pretty high. 115 00:05:09,879 --> 00:05:12,759 I mean, I can't remember where Sagarin had them and 116 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,319 where some of the other metrics had them ranked overall 117 00:05:15,319 --> 00:05:18,399 from an efficiency standpoint, but a great season twelve and two. 118 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,199 They overachieve, it seems every single year, versus the recruiting 119 00:05:22,399 --> 00:05:23,720 and talent pool. 120 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:24,959 Speaker 1: Why use that, do you think. 121 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 4: Well, I think, I mean a couple of years ago 122 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,759 they didn't. Obviously they've been swings and sways through the years, 123 00:05:30,759 --> 00:05:32,639 but these last couple of years, yeah, I mean, whatever 124 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,240 it might be, whether it's just really really strong line 125 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,360 play that's been a life hack for the best BYU 126 00:05:37,439 --> 00:05:41,199 teams for a long time. You know, they the defense 127 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,160 held steady. It was twenty first in a defensive sp 128 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,120 plus in twenty twenty four and then twenty second last year. 129 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,079 And the offense, I mean that was, you know, for 130 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,000 very obvious reasons, with a quarterback change over the summer 131 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,560 and bringing in a freshman who hadn't you know, had 132 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:56,639 started at another. 133 00:05:56,399 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 6: School and all that stuff. 134 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 4: But the fact that you know, the fact that they 135 00:05:59,199 --> 00:06:03,079 improved from thirty to twenty fourth with that with a 136 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,759 young quarterback who they weren't asking to throw down field 137 00:06:05,759 --> 00:06:08,639 a time. They're trying to play a very controlled game, 138 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,560 and it worked and they improved offensively. I think that 139 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,000 was pretty incredible. 140 00:06:13,639 --> 00:06:16,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is pretty cool to see that, no doubt 141 00:06:16,199 --> 00:06:19,839 about it. And you know, where what is this season 142 00:06:19,959 --> 00:06:23,959 rank all time in BAU football history for their best seasons? 143 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:24,959 Speaker 1: Would you say. 144 00:06:26,879 --> 00:06:30,959 Speaker 4: They were slightly below where they were in twenty four, which, again, 145 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,959 when you have a freshman quarterback, that's not the. 146 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 5: You know, that's not a damning thing by any means. 147 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,000 But let's see, let me pull up. 148 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 3: So what you say, So you think twenty twenty four 149 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,720 was a better team than the twenty twenty five team 150 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,519 per sp plus is what you're saying. 151 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:45,319 Speaker 6: Per spe plus? 152 00:06:45,399 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, for all time now we're looking at 153 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,439 a team, the twenty twenty four team. I have them 154 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,279 as the twelfth best BAU team and then twenty twenty 155 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,800 five was a little bit behind that. But no, no, no, no, sorry, 156 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,800 in terms of percent al writings, it was basically tied. 157 00:06:59,079 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 6: So they were both in the top twelve overall. 158 00:07:02,399 --> 00:07:04,759 Speaker 4: And you know, Kilane has now had three teams in 159 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,240 the top twelve, including the twenty twenty team, So. 160 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 5: He's started a little ways to make up there with 161 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,319 on Lavelle Edwards, but he's doing his best. 162 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:12,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. 163 00:07:12,959 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 3: Over the last three years, which unit of the BYU 164 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,800 football team has been the best unit? Would you say, 165 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,120 per recipe plus offense, defense or special teams? 166 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,839 Speaker 4: In terms of average rankings, it would be Special teams 167 00:07:27,959 --> 00:07:30,519 had they were eleventh two year, in twenty three they 168 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,439 were fourth, and last year they fell the forty fifth. 169 00:07:32,439 --> 00:07:34,279 Speaker 6: But that's still overall. 170 00:07:33,879 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 5: A really nice average. 171 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,439 Speaker 4: And if we're looking at three years, both the offense 172 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,639 and defense were dragged down by twenty three. That was 173 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,160 a pretty shaky year overall, obviously not only moving to 174 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,480 the Big twelve, but then obviously you know, just not 175 00:07:46,879 --> 00:07:49,480 having a team and trying to figure out your way 176 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,639 through that. But then both units improved the last two years. 177 00:07:52,639 --> 00:07:55,360 The offense went from seventy fifth to thirty six to 178 00:07:55,399 --> 00:07:57,600 twenty fourth, and like I said, the defense has been 179 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,639 top twenty two straight years. So especially it's just been nice, 180 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,920 you know, to carry the weight a little bit, and 181 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,439 then it regressed the hair last year, but nothing major. 182 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of interesting to see that. 183 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:14,199 Speaker 3: How in how does a win loss record right, how 184 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,240 is it influenced by like elite special teams play. Would 185 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,680 you say, is you have any opinion on that on 186 00:08:19,759 --> 00:08:22,959 how what role special teams plays in that win loss column. 187 00:08:23,639 --> 00:08:25,439 Speaker 4: You know, I think my general theory has just been 188 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,639 for a while that like close games is where you 189 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,759 know you're going to see that. You know your close 190 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,839 games record, if you have a good quarterback play, you 191 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,559 know how to master a four minute drill, you can 192 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,919 and you can make forty five yard field goals or 193 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,799 you know, penn an opponent deep at a key time. 194 00:08:38,879 --> 00:08:41,159 Speaker 5: That's going to be how you win close games. 195 00:08:41,159 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 4: And you know BYU last I checked one of quite 196 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,120 a few close games these last couple of seasons. 197 00:08:45,159 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 5: So maybe that theory checks out. 198 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 6: Yeah. 199 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 3: So that being said, it's like we looked at that 200 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,039 over the last few years, and even in twenty twenty three, right, 201 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,559 they they took Oklahoma and Oklahoma States with the. 202 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,159 Speaker 1: Wire at the end of the year to get Bowl eligible. 203 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,039 Speaker 3: They came short, but those were two top twenty five 204 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,799 teams double as you win teams. 205 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,039 Speaker 1: They fell short. 206 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 3: But it does seem that BYU has won many more 207 00:09:10,399 --> 00:09:13,960 games in these then they've lost. When it's like a 208 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:14,960 one score game. 209 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 5: Yeah. 210 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,879 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously both of the losses from twenty five 211 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,960 were multi score games and they won all the close ones. 212 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,399 Speaker 5: And you know, year before. 213 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 4: Had a couple dropped a couple close ones at the end, 214 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:26,919 but one of them elsewhere. You're right, I mean, I 215 00:09:26,919 --> 00:09:28,720 think those last two games of twenty three is where 216 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,879 the ship started to turn around a little bit. There 217 00:09:30,879 --> 00:09:32,960 were some blowouts there in the middle of that season, 218 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,159 but you know, finishing the year almost you know, staying 219 00:09:35,159 --> 00:09:37,679 within one score of Oklahoma and then probably should have 220 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,759 beatn Oklahoma State in that last game. You know, that 221 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,799 was if nothing else, to sign up what they were 222 00:09:43,879 --> 00:09:44,480 capable of. 223 00:09:44,519 --> 00:09:47,159 Speaker 5: And you know twenty three and four since then. 224 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, what does BUYU need to improve upon if they 225 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,080 want to get over the hump? Would you say, get 226 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:57,080 into the CSP They were close, but no cigars this year? 227 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think. 228 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,399 Speaker 4: I mean, the biggest weakness from a pure ranking perspective 229 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,039 is big plays on offense. You know, they were far 230 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,559 more efficient than their their opponents in terms of you know, 231 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,320 success rate, and they went three and out far less, 232 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:12,919 and so they were able to kind of you know, 233 00:10:13,519 --> 00:10:15,559 when you're when you're going to three. 234 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 5: And out far less than your opponent. 235 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 4: You're probably winning the field position battle, and that rang 236 00:10:18,919 --> 00:10:22,240 true by all means, but just the easy points, that's 237 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,840 the biggest way that by you can improve is just 238 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,519 you know, big play or two here and that sets 239 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,360 up a few more easy points. And you know, obviously 240 00:10:31,399 --> 00:10:33,799 Texas Tech was was in a different strategy of this year, 241 00:10:33,799 --> 00:10:35,120 and BYU fans that know. 242 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,159 Speaker 5: That as well as anybody, but you know, they wouldn't. 243 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,919 Speaker 4: Have had to work quite as hard against Utah or 244 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,279 Arizona or something like that that they've gotten or Colorado especially, 245 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,559 you know, get an easy touchdown earlier in the game 246 00:10:45,639 --> 00:10:48,600 and distance yourself. That's probably the biggest opportunity. 247 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,399 Speaker 3: There, Yeah, no doubt about it. What's interesting about SP plus. 248 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,840 I was looking at Kirk Signetti's rankings. I don't know 249 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,039 if you looked at his like ap pole ranking, and 250 00:10:57,039 --> 00:11:00,159 I know the SID may have something to say about 251 00:11:00,159 --> 00:11:04,320 these rankings, but I had like Iowa ranked very high, 252 00:11:04,759 --> 00:11:07,840 very high, like almost I think top twelve, maybe like 253 00:11:07,919 --> 00:11:08,919 tenth or something like that. 254 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,919 Speaker 1: To pull about back up, and I was looking at 255 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:11,600 sp plus. 256 00:11:11,759 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 3: You got Iowa at nine and four as the twelve 257 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:16,879 best team in college football. 258 00:11:17,639 --> 00:11:20,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was they kind of well, and I was 259 00:11:20,039 --> 00:11:22,320 annoyed because I kind of had them as an underrated 260 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,919 team this year and I thought they were primed should 261 00:11:24,919 --> 00:11:26,480 be pretty good, and then they dropped a bunch of 262 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,639 close games, and so nobody really noticed how good they were, 263 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,120 even though you know, they almost. 264 00:11:29,879 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 5: Beat they almost beat Indiana. 265 00:11:31,279 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 4: Maybe that was part of his rationale for it, but 266 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,759 you know, dropping off by three in Iowa State, five 267 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,399 to Indiana, two to Oregon. I mean that's two of 268 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,600 the four semi final teams where they had the game, 269 00:11:42,399 --> 00:11:44,480 you know, to win in the last two minutes. So 270 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,960 they were really, really, really good football team, but they 271 00:11:47,039 --> 00:11:49,240 just were on the wrong side of the close games. 272 00:11:49,639 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, you know, so that. 273 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: You know, this is an interesting situation, right because Indian 274 00:11:56,159 --> 00:11:57,840 ended up winning the national championship. 275 00:11:57,879 --> 00:11:59,639 Speaker 1: You look at the College Football. 276 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:04,919 Speaker 3: Playoff Committee choices and obviously, you know, certain teams off 277 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:09,679 of merit probably shouldn't have got in, but due to contracts, 278 00:12:09,759 --> 00:12:10,480 they did get in. 279 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: If you would have had. 280 00:12:11,919 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 3: Your your brothers, what should have the top twelve been 281 00:12:15,519 --> 00:12:18,080 if it was based off of sp plus, what would 282 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,480 have been the top twelve teams to get into the 283 00:12:20,519 --> 00:12:21,399 COLF Football Playoff. 284 00:12:22,159 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think first of all, Miami and 285 00:12:24,399 --> 00:12:26,440 Notre Dame get in if i'm because one of the 286 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,200 things I was doing late in the season was just 287 00:12:29,279 --> 00:12:31,360 you know, I was I lost complete faith in the 288 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,840 committee once you realized they were doing there, you know, 289 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:35,919 the way they were playing the head to head game, 290 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,720 where you know, Notre Dames and over Miami unless there 291 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,480 as long as byus separating them, and if BYU's not there, 292 00:12:41,519 --> 00:12:43,519 then suddenly Miami is better than Notre Dame. But they 293 00:12:43,519 --> 00:12:46,279 weren't before, and all the different ways, and the fact 294 00:12:46,279 --> 00:12:49,039 that Oklahoma had to be ahead of Alabama because they're 295 00:12:49,039 --> 00:12:51,559 better than Alabama in one game even though they had 296 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,440 a bunch of turnovers in that game, they weren't actually 297 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,279 better in that game either. I just I kind of 298 00:12:55,279 --> 00:12:57,440 lost faith entirely in that system. And I was just 299 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:03,480 playing with pure spplus resume SP plus FPI and strinth 300 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,759 the record and just went with a full computer system 301 00:13:06,759 --> 00:13:09,200 there to see what it would come up with. And 302 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,440 it had both Notre Dame and Miami, and it had 303 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,360 Alabama just out had Oklahoma out by quite a bit. So, 304 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,840 so it was a weird year in terms of judging 305 00:13:17,879 --> 00:13:20,679 the SEC because in terms of average sp plus writing 306 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,960 and they're still but comfortably the best conference. They had, 307 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,159 their worst team was better than seven Big ten teams. 308 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,480 Big ten team was extremely vertical, where the SEC was 309 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,399 kind of horizontal in all the teams being really close together. 310 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:37,240 But you know, the strongest conference or not. Oklahoma shouldn't 311 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,279 have been there and Alabama probably shouldn't have been there either, 312 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,919 and they just tied themselves in knots and I just 313 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,759 hated it. I hated the way that all played out. 314 00:13:45,759 --> 00:13:48,559 And you know, as it turned out, Alabama it could 315 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,759 only beat Oklahoma and they got crushed by a real team. 316 00:13:50,879 --> 00:13:52,960 So you know, it is what it is, I guess, 317 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,440 but I kind of lost. The committee lost me this year. 318 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, how far out was How far away was BYU 319 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:00,120 from getting in? 320 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 4: They were close, I mean obviously they would have been. 321 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,799 I think they were first team out before the Big 322 00:14:04,799 --> 00:14:09,519 twelve championship and then I don't remember, Alabama was probably 323 00:14:09,519 --> 00:14:12,279 still ahead of them when both teams fell. But yeah, 324 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,120 they were right on the border for obvious reasons. I mean, 325 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,360 they only they'd only lost to a top four team 326 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,039 and beating everybody else. 327 00:14:18,759 --> 00:14:20,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's unfortunate. 328 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 3: That would have been nice not to play Texas Tech 329 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,480 and the regular season, going to the Big twelve championship 330 00:14:25,519 --> 00:14:28,799 undefeated and then lose, even if it was in convincing fashion. 331 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:33,000 Maybe you get in then with only one loss. So 332 00:14:34,559 --> 00:14:38,919 give me your ideal scenario, right if you had, if 333 00:14:38,919 --> 00:14:42,519 you were a power broker of college football, what's the 334 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:49,000 right number of teams to having a playoff? And should 335 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:53,840 we get away from only a subjective committee and ad 336 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,440 an algorithm to balance out the human corruptible eye test 337 00:14:58,679 --> 00:15:00,679 nature of the current committee. 338 00:15:01,759 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, first of all, like I've never had 339 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,480 a problem with sixteen, I've assumed we'd be at sixteen 340 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,200 by now. But also I've come to really like twelve. 341 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,440 That's a really high bar still, and lots of games 342 00:15:12,159 --> 00:15:13,639 you know, ended up making a huge difference. 343 00:15:13,639 --> 00:15:14,679 Speaker 5: Obviously for how to Dame. 344 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,879 Speaker 4: The first two games made all the difference, but I 345 00:15:17,919 --> 00:15:20,159 think that kept the bar really high, and obviously Miami 346 00:15:20,399 --> 00:15:22,320 barely squeaking in and it almost went in. The whole 347 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,559 thing I think was good for the system as a whole. 348 00:15:24,559 --> 00:15:26,440 So if we stay at twelve for a long time, 349 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,080 I'm I'm totally good with it. But I've you know, 350 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,240 first time I haven't wrote about the playoff. I think 351 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,240 it was for Football outsiders in like two thousand and eight, 352 00:15:33,279 --> 00:15:35,679 and I said, I was advocated for sixteen, So I'm 353 00:15:35,679 --> 00:15:37,360 not going to complain if we get that too. I 354 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,919 the twenty four and the multiple auto beds and all that, 355 00:15:39,919 --> 00:15:41,480 you can you can miss me with all that, we 356 00:15:41,519 --> 00:15:44,120 haven't even, man, we haven't. We have a twenty fourteen playoff. 357 00:15:44,159 --> 00:15:46,159 That's the way things are are shaped up right now. 358 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 5: It'll end in March. 359 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 4: We haven't even mastered twelve yet, so we don't need 360 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,279 to think anything past four rounds just yet. But I'm 361 00:15:52,279 --> 00:15:55,000 fine with twelve or sixteen. And like I said, I 362 00:15:55,039 --> 00:15:58,279 mean my joke, and late in the season it was 363 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,840 a pretty bitter joke. But this is the committee was 364 00:16:00,919 --> 00:16:03,440 no longer. This was the year it became official that 365 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,759 the Committee does not rank twenty five teams. Crafts an 366 00:16:07,039 --> 00:16:11,080 archiesonally hand crafted list of teams for the playoffs, and 367 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,759 they don't just rank one to twenty five. 368 00:16:12,799 --> 00:16:14,679 Speaker 5: And if the humans can't do it, I just want 369 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:15,320 computers to do. 370 00:16:15,679 --> 00:16:17,639 Speaker 4: I just want to one through twenty five and then 371 00:16:17,679 --> 00:16:20,360 we'll figure out who made the playoff after those teams 372 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,639 are ranked, and instead they were just twisting themselves in 373 00:16:23,759 --> 00:16:24,679 nots and I hated it. 374 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm good with a Sweet sixteen, if you will. 375 00:16:28,799 --> 00:16:34,919 And if that Sweet sixteen would have been effectuated this year, 376 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,399 who would have been in that thirteen fourteen to fifteen 377 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,720 kind of sixteen slots? And do you think any of 378 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,559 those teams could have maybe made a run in the 379 00:16:43,639 --> 00:16:47,600 CFP if you looked at kind of the potential seedings. 380 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think if they were sixteen with my computer. 381 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 4: Thing that I was doing, BAU and Alabama are definitely in. 382 00:16:53,399 --> 00:16:56,559 I think Vanderbilt was in, and then I can't remember 383 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,519 for sure the last pot was It might have been 384 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,000 I had been, Oklahoma might have been. 385 00:17:02,399 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 5: I don't. 386 00:17:04,519 --> 00:17:07,839 Speaker 4: I think Utah Maybe I'm trying to remember for sure, 387 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,559 but yeah, I mean, and again at that point, we 388 00:17:09,599 --> 00:17:12,200 are kind of we are lower in the bar when 389 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,359 you get to the you know, Utah having lost to 390 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,880 buy U n Tech and all that, but the Utah 391 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,680 was a really good football team. I think any of 392 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,839 those b y U and Utah both had the line 393 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,559 play that could have been necessary to win at least 394 00:17:24,599 --> 00:17:27,000 a game or two. You know, they didn't have a 395 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,559 Malachai Tony necessarily like Miami did. But the line play 396 00:17:30,599 --> 00:17:33,759 is what got Miami pretty far down that road. 397 00:17:33,799 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 6: And I think by U and Utah were both extremely physical. 398 00:17:36,519 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 4: That's why those three teams stood out in the Big 399 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,200 twelve as a whole this year. Those are the three 400 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,319 teams that could really really play in the trenches. And 401 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,839 you know, we'll see, we'll see if anybody can change that. 402 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,759 I've been updating rosters. I love, you know, Oklahoma State 403 00:17:49,839 --> 00:17:53,960 basically importing North Texas's offense. That's gonna be great. Kansas State. 404 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,599 I think I love the moves Kansas State made on defense. 405 00:17:56,759 --> 00:17:59,400 But the top three were the top three, and obviously 406 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,160 Morgan scot he's got a high bar to clear, but 407 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:02,000 they might clear it. 408 00:18:03,079 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely intriguing this next year. Do you have 409 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,079 a way too early win loss prediction for BYU football 410 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:15,279 as you've been aggregating the roster talent and what they 411 00:18:15,319 --> 00:18:16,400 bring in and what they return. 412 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,079 Speaker 4: I don't have updated rankings yet, but I can tell 413 00:18:20,079 --> 00:18:23,279 you that based on I have this year's schedule, based 414 00:18:23,319 --> 00:18:24,440 on last year's rating, that. 415 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 6: Would be right around nine wins for BYU. 416 00:18:26,319 --> 00:18:27,079 Speaker 5: So we'll see. I don't. 417 00:18:27,519 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure they're going to rank relatively high in 418 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:30,839 returning production if I had to bet. 419 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,519 Speaker 5: I'm not seeing really any. 420 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 4: Major major holes that suddenly have to be filled, so 421 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,240 maybe it ends up being higher than that. 422 00:18:37,279 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 5: But yeah, I think I'm thinking. 423 00:18:38,839 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 4: My guess is that they'll probably start the year second 424 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,839 in the conference, just like the finished the year. 425 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,039 Speaker 3: I guess, Well, that's interesting because I think that would 426 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,519 that would be maybe the most optimistic win loss or 427 00:18:50,559 --> 00:18:52,759 win projection from SP plus. 428 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,079 Speaker 1: I want to say in the last five years, right that. 429 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm trying to I'm trying to. Yeah, I'm trying 430 00:18:58,400 --> 00:18:58,720 to remember. 431 00:18:58,759 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 4: I remember in twenty after they kind of they lost 432 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,039 a bunch of guys but were still really good. In 433 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,920 twenty one they were I think gus P plus was 434 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,079 super high on them heading into twenty two, and they 435 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,000 fell off, so that I should go back and look 436 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:10,880 at what the projections were. 437 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were high, you were, Yeah, you're right going 438 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,160 into twenty twenty two with all the returning production and 439 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,559 the talent. There's a lot of NFL talent on that squad, 440 00:19:19,279 --> 00:19:21,079 and with the strength of schedule in front of them, 441 00:19:21,279 --> 00:19:24,599 they did they fell short in twenty twenty twenty two. 442 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: I'd agree with that. I think you had them pretty high. 443 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,359 I think they would probably be pretty close to each other. 444 00:19:29,079 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 5: It was kind of chasing. 445 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 4: It was chasing BYU around for a couple of years. 446 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,279 The I thought they'd fall off in twenty one. 447 00:19:33,319 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 6: They really didn't. 448 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,599 Speaker 4: Thought they'd be great in twenty two, and they weren't. So, 449 00:19:36,839 --> 00:19:38,720 but I think we're back on track now these last 450 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:39,720 couple of years. 451 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, they had lost. 452 00:19:41,079 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 3: They lost a Notre Dame that year at a neutral 453 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,200 site in Vegas. They lost to Arkansas at home. Probably 454 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,119 shouldn't have lost that game. They lost to Liberty on 455 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,359 the road. They lost to East Carolina as well at home. 456 00:19:52,599 --> 00:19:55,839 They fell short. There's no doubt about it. The only 457 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,039 loss that I felt like they really probably should have 458 00:19:59,039 --> 00:20:01,519 took it on the on the lipswither was that Oregon 459 00:20:01,559 --> 00:20:05,119 team at Oregon. All the other ones were all winnable games. 460 00:20:06,319 --> 00:20:08,079 Speaker 5: Yeah that was then. I mean they're still grated out. 461 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 4: Okay, they got worse than twenty three, but then, yeah, 462 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,319 like we were saying, they rallied late and then they've 463 00:20:14,319 --> 00:20:15,160 been good ever since. 464 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,039 Speaker 1: Yep, no doubt about it. 465 00:20:17,079 --> 00:20:20,039 Speaker 3: Bill Conley here the creator of sp plus representing ESPN 466 00:20:20,039 --> 00:20:23,240 dot Com, talking from college football here on your Utah 467 00:20:23,559 --> 00:20:29,440 ESPN Radio network. So, Bill, the Big Twelve as a conference, 468 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,000 how do you see it comparative to the SEC, the 469 00:20:33,039 --> 00:20:36,359 Big Ten, and the ACC Right now? Are they on 470 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:41,119 the on the bottom rung here? Comparatively speaking from a 471 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,960 talent from a productivity standpoint, Well. 472 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 4: I think, I mean they were called in terms of 473 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:52,319 average ratings, they were closer to the Big Ten than 474 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:53,880 or they were just about as close to the Big 475 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,680 ten ats there where the ACCHC stunk. You know, obviously 476 00:20:58,039 --> 00:21:00,599 obviously Miami peaked late and that ended up flecting well 477 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,440 on a lot of teams. Yeah, but the bottom of 478 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,240 the just as I was saying about the Big Ten, 479 00:21:05,279 --> 00:21:07,920 the bottom of the AEC was really really poor, and 480 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,680 so you're just going to get an extra easy game 481 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,440 in that conference compared to everybody else's. 482 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 5: And the Big Ten was or the Big Twelve? Excuse me? 483 00:21:14,599 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 4: Was I mean that there were you know, Colorado wasn't 484 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,519 very good. There were a couple of pretty poor teams. 485 00:21:18,559 --> 00:21:20,799 But you just think about in the last two to 486 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:25,359 three years, almost everybody's been good to quite good at 487 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,519 least once, and that's a pretty impressive thing. Can't necessarily 488 00:21:28,559 --> 00:21:32,160 say that about the about the ACC. So obviously there's 489 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,599 a gap between the top two, but between the top 490 00:21:34,599 --> 00:21:36,680 two and the next two, I should say. But I mean, 491 00:21:36,759 --> 00:21:39,119 right now, I think in terms of consistent quality, Big 492 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,519 twelve is still comfortably ahead of the a SEC. 493 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: That's it. That's a good thing. 494 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 3: How far away are they from the SEC right now? 495 00:21:45,759 --> 00:21:50,279 I see it seems like they may be falling from grace. 496 00:21:50,559 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: All of that equity that was. 497 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 3: Built through uh you know, paying players under the table 498 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,920 and uh, those those car dealerships in rural areas, you know, 499 00:22:00,079 --> 00:22:00,880 fitting the bill. 500 00:22:01,519 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: It seems like that's possibly coming to an end. 501 00:22:05,559 --> 00:22:07,279 Speaker 4: Well, like I said, I think, you know, in terms 502 00:22:07,319 --> 00:22:10,000 of average rating, the SEC is still the comfortably Their 503 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,000 average espupulsrating was thirteen point one. 504 00:22:12,039 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 5: That was forty points. 505 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 4: Ahead of the Big Ten because again, you know, they 506 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,640 had won. Their worst team was sixty seven, and the 507 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,680 Big Ten had seven teams worse than that. 508 00:22:20,839 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 5: So that's the plus. 509 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 4: You know, in like fifty percent of this year of 510 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,839 this past season's games were decided by one touchdown in 511 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,759 the SEC, so that's I mean, it's extremely competitive it's 512 00:22:30,799 --> 00:22:34,640 very high quality, but as you're suggesting, not really a 513 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,680 guaranteed top five team right now. And the SEC is 514 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,440 the one who insisted that conferences should be judged by 515 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,240 who won the national titles, so they are falling by 516 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,319 their own standard in that regard, even if the average 517 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:46,480 quality is still really good. 518 00:22:48,079 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 3: My guy, Bill Conley, Ladies and gentlemen love talking ball 519 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,400 with you is always a pleasure of blessing and for 520 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,119 all those that are listen, the best way to support 521 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:57,640 you what you do, how you do it? 522 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: Bill? 523 00:22:59,039 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm still I can't say I've been. 524 00:23:00,759 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 4: I've been, you know, nosing spreadsheets here lately, so I'm 525 00:23:03,279 --> 00:23:03,960 not posting much. 526 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 5: But go to go to you know, ESPN underscore Bill 527 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,240 C at Twitter. You'll find out what I'm posting. 528 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 6: Uh, and we'll have. 529 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,319 Speaker 4: It'll take me a while to get through this, but 530 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,240 once we get through all the roster updates, we'll have 531 00:23:14,279 --> 00:23:16,000 a ton of content March most likely. 532 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 3: I love it, MANH yeah, yeah, what else? Uh? You know, 533 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,599 because you do you do any mail bag things? Were like, uh, 534 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,440 fans are able to send you messages DMS or anything 535 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:26,640 like that. 536 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,559 Speaker 1: What have been what have people been asking you? About recently. 537 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 4: I should do an AMA at some point on on 538 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,359 social No it is, I mean right now, I think 539 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,400 everybody's just waiting, you know, like, do you have any updates? 540 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,240 So when I'm returning, production is going to come out. 541 00:23:40,279 --> 00:23:44,799 That's kind of the most common question. But no, that's 542 00:23:44,839 --> 00:23:47,640 that's pretty much. You know, I have, you know, the 543 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,480 normal kind of train of content here coming up right now. 544 00:23:50,519 --> 00:23:53,480 Everybody everybody was distracted by the NFL. Everybody's distracted by 545 00:23:53,519 --> 00:23:56,200 Olympics now, so you know, socials are pretty quiet. 546 00:23:56,759 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 3: Love it man, Well, appreciate you Bill as always loved 547 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,319 and ball with your thanks ropping on. 548 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,279 Speaker 6: Absolutely take care Bill Conley. 549 00:24:04,039 --> 00:24:04,839 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. 550 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 3: A great segment, and I always appreciate Bill Conley's time 551 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,480 here on your Utah ESPN Radio Network. That segment was 552 00:24:12,519 --> 00:24:15,759 brought to you by Dental Pros off Utah Dentalprosofutah dot com. 553 00:24:16,039 --> 00:24:17,839 If you've been told you need a filling, a crown, 554 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,599 a rooking out, get a second opinion at Dental Pros 555 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,960 of Utah and American Fort. 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We'll be 566 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,240 back and we'll get into some more news and notes, 567 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,680 more college basketball with Chancellor Johnson. The twelve analyst coming 568 00:24:57,759 --> 00:25:00,519 up next, gets his thought on AJ Debond's UH and 569 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:01,079 his perform