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<v Speaker 1>The following program is produced by the tech Talk Radio Network.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another episode of tech Talk Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Weird, and I'm Matt Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>Great to see you, Matt. We missed you last week.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we kind of took a little liberty because

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<v Speaker 1>we knew that you were in wire rewiring.

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<v Speaker 2>Heck, I saw the picture. Yeah, the picture was accurate.

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<v Speaker 2>That was pretty accurate, right, was that was pretty accurate?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. We went into Dali and we asked it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know Matt's going through. Showed me a picture of

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<v Speaker 1>a guy just buried in cables, and one of them

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<v Speaker 1>that showed the guy's face, and I said, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>hide the face. And then that's what.

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<v Speaker 3>It came up with.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not hiding the face, it's hiding the tears, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is pretty amazing, though, is what you ended

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<v Speaker 1>up coming up with. And we do have photos from

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<v Speaker 1>last week on the blog of what you eventually created,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got to say, it's pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>When my wife and I first moved into this house,

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<v Speaker 2>I the basement wasn't finn and that's where I'm at

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<v Speaker 2>right now. It's done in our basement, So I was

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<v Speaker 2>in the other bedroom. We had finally got to do

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<v Speaker 2>the culmination of my dream of like a workplay gaming cave,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was great. But then you know, the basement

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<v Speaker 2>got finished, we had people staying over more often. We

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<v Speaker 2>ended up having a roommate for a little while, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was like, why am I hogging this big old

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<v Speaker 2>honkin room with its own bathroom instead of going to

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<v Speaker 2>the one downstairs where I probably should be. So I

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<v Speaker 2>ended up around Actually I think I've been down here

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<v Speaker 2>for about a year now. But when I moved down

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things I wanted was a big floating desk,

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<v Speaker 2>So I used two foot by one inch diameter black

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<v Speaker 2>just cast iron pipe that you can get at like

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<v Speaker 2>home Depot loves whatever. And I got the flanges, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just had a little circular disc that they screw into

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<v Speaker 2>and mounted all those to the wall. Now, if I

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<v Speaker 2>could go back listeners, the one thing I would do

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<v Speaker 2>different would be to lag bolt a two by a

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<v Speaker 2>four to the studs and then mount the flanges to

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<v Speaker 2>the two by four As it is to the flanges

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<v Speaker 2>are now either mounted to the studs or with like

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<v Speaker 2>four one hundred pound test anchors per flange, right that

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<v Speaker 2>being said, my gaming tower was pretty beefy, and there

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<v Speaker 2>would still be days where I'd walk down here and

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<v Speaker 2>like put my weight on the desk and you just

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<v Speaker 2>hear like that the creek hit that one note too

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<v Speaker 2>high where you're just like, oh, okay, well, what.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of case you were running? A? Not a half

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<v Speaker 1>nine thirty two or anything like that? Was it? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I used to run a half nine thirty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually I had the original half air case and I

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<v Speaker 2>love that thing, but this was a thermal take view

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<v Speaker 2>thirty seven. I think it still had some weight to it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then one day I saw this YouTube video and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, I could rack mount stuff. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>I could rack mount stuff. So we used a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of money that came in, picked up the cases

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, some new components, and yeah, we decided

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<v Speaker 2>just breakdown because my computer was on top of the desk,

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<v Speaker 2>my wife's was underneath the desk. So I broke both

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<v Speaker 2>of them down, racked them because when I was still

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<v Speaker 2>streaming on Twitch, those computers were actually connected in a

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<v Speaker 2>various number of ways to be my whole studio, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, if I rack them, then like

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<v Speaker 2>doing that. So much easier. Well, one of the big

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<v Speaker 2>decisions I made is I was doing all this is

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<v Speaker 2>I officially have shut down Captain Oblivious. I've decided I

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<v Speaker 2>am no longer streaming on Twitch. I haven't done it

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<v Speaker 2>in ages. It's it was fun when I did it,

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<v Speaker 2>but now I'm just going to play games for me.

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<v Speaker 2>But everything's working great. The cabling's fine, the airflow's good,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that. I'm happy.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what the first thing when you told me that

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<v Speaker 1>you were going to move into a rack mounted case,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have a rackmounted case, and I remember I

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<v Speaker 1>set it up in our original office and I was

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<v Speaker 1>using it and then you know, it takes it does

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<v Speaker 1>take up the desk space. I didn't do it like

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<v Speaker 1>you did, actually mounted at a rack. I put it

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<v Speaker 1>on top of the desk, and I remember, like thinking airflow.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when we think of a gaming computer, we

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<v Speaker 1>think of the acrylic, We think of this being able

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<v Speaker 1>to see inside in the RGB lights, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>of a RAQ.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think of it being a server.

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<v Speaker 1>And you just said, no, this actually the airflow and

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<v Speaker 1>everything will work good in a rack amounted case as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So the way I've actually got mine. I have

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<v Speaker 2>both configured, both computers configured pretty much the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a an all in one three sixty milimeter

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<v Speaker 2>CPU liquid cooler, and I've got the radiator mounted to

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<v Speaker 2>the very front. And I know some people when they

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<v Speaker 2>hear this are going to be like, wait, you're not

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<v Speaker 2>using the radiator as the exhaust. I know. Anyways, so

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<v Speaker 2>the air gets pulled in through the radiator goes in

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<v Speaker 2>the case and then I've got two they're two eighty

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<v Speaker 2>milimeter but high volume fans in the back as an

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<v Speaker 2>exhaust and putting my hand back there like it pumps

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<v Speaker 2>air through. Everything's happy. I haven't had any alerts. The

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<v Speaker 2>only thing that irritated me, oh there there are no

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<v Speaker 2>Wi Fi seven drivers for Windows ten and they have

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<v Speaker 2>no intentions of releasing them.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really, so it's gonna be one of those Oh

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta get to eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>They finally got me. I've made it all the way

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<v Speaker 2>until last week and now I'm on Windows eleven, So

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<v Speaker 2>good job Microsoft. I'm looking at Windows ten and the

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<v Speaker 2>device managers just like, I don't recognize this network controller.

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<v Speaker 2>And I looked everywhere and everybody was like, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>how they're getting us sorry, bud wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Now even even the manufacturer of the Wi Fi seven

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<v Speaker 1>it's stilln wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I went to so I used Gigabyte for my

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<v Speaker 2>new board. I went there and tried to pull down

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<v Speaker 2>a network driver. As soon as you changed it from

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<v Speaker 2>Windows eleven to Windows ten, the driver disappeared. If you

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<v Speaker 2>tried to install it with the Windows eleven driver, which

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<v Speaker 2>they say can be backwards compatible. Well, the Wi Fi

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<v Speaker 2>once aren't. And then I found out the manufacture of

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<v Speaker 2>the Wi Fi chip and once you try and pull

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<v Speaker 2>it down from them and they were like nah, sorry

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<v Speaker 2>dog whoa.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I wanted to ask in the picture and

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<v Speaker 1>again our listeners can go to blog dot.

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<v Speaker 3>Tech, talk radio dot com. The picture.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a ring a ring light and in the

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<v Speaker 1>center of it it looked like you had a DSLR.

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<v Speaker 3>I do is that being used as your webcam?

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<v Speaker 2>That is my webcam and it is a Sony zv

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<v Speaker 2>E ten. It is a mirrorless SLR. But the thing

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<v Speaker 2>is the Sony zb E ten was originally designed for

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<v Speaker 2>blogging and vlogging, so it actually when you guys were

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<v Speaker 2>talking last week about like cameras having the USB input,

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<v Speaker 2>when covid hit I used to have a Canon and

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<v Speaker 2>use that until Canon decided now that we're in a

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<v Speaker 2>post COVID world, that product should not be free anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>And the free version they pushed an update that basically

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<v Speaker 2>bricked it, and you have to do the paid version

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<v Speaker 2>now that costs either like you know, two bucks a

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<v Speaker 2>month or like twenty five dollars a year. Sony's image

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<v Speaker 2>Edge software was free. But then I found this camera

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<v Speaker 2>and it actually has a built in USB streaming mode wow,

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<v Speaker 2>where you can actually so I've got a USBC plugged

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<v Speaker 2>into it that goes straight into my computer and a

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<v Speaker 2>dummy battery in there that is basically just a way

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<v Speaker 2>they use a power pack. So it's always plugged in,

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<v Speaker 2>always powered on, and it just goes straight through. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't need image Edge, I don't need anything. It just

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<v Speaker 2>natively recognizes the camera. You know. I changed the settings

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<v Speaker 2>on it to do you know, eye tracking and more

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<v Speaker 2>light balancing and things, and you know, as you can see,

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<v Speaker 2>the background is softened just that ever so slightly. But

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<v Speaker 2>I've I've been using this thing for years.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. It's funny because the listener Steve reached out

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<v Speaker 1>to me because in the show. I was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>how I have the Logitech Brio four K and I

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<v Speaker 1>like the cameras from Logitech. They've been great, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been using him since. Actually, I'll be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 1>I had the Connectic's Quick Cam and then it became

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<v Speaker 1>Logitech the four K.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just I was complaining because.

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<v Speaker 1>If I compare the quality between yours, which looks great Justin's.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you saw his video the.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I took a look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>The capture was pretty good. The live was even better.

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<v Speaker 1>Sean's camera looks good, but mine. Miss watched out and

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<v Speaker 1>he actually got in touch with me and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, your problem may not be the camera, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you're lighting. And he said, what kind of lighting

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<v Speaker 1>are you running? And I said, well, I'm just running.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got five lights that are just regular light bulbs

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<v Speaker 1>that are above me, seventy five whit bulbs. He goes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it. He said, change your lighting and you might

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<v Speaker 1>be more happier with the result of what that camera

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<v Speaker 1>is able.

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<v Speaker 3>To give you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean, for example, so this one, this is

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<v Speaker 2>just with the ring light. I used to have a

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<v Speaker 2>second light, an Algatto key light air over sitting behind

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<v Speaker 2>the second monitor to hit me from my right side.

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<v Speaker 2>I took it down when I did the reorg. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you look, I mean just turning off the ring

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<v Speaker 2>light and the drastic difference. Oh that that makes Look

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<v Speaker 2>at that because now you've got the light from my monitor,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got the light from above. It messes with the

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<v Speaker 2>depth of field and everything. But then as soon as

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<v Speaker 2>I pop that back on. And the other thing I

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<v Speaker 2>did is the camera is I set the camera color

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<v Speaker 2>for forty five hundred K, and I can control the

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<v Speaker 2>color of this light as well, and I matched it

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<v Speaker 2>so it's picking it like it's tuned in at forty

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred K. And my light showing at forty five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred K as well helped give it a really nice

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<v Speaker 2>soft look.

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<v Speaker 3>For somebody like you. Look at Sean set up.

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<v Speaker 1>Sean, you do you have an actual like a ring

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<v Speaker 1>light or a focus light on you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's it's a ring light. It's about seven inch

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<v Speaker 4>across maybe, so it's a decent sized ring light, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's sitting right behind my camera. My camera's not in

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<v Speaker 4>the middle. My camera's a little bit lower. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 4>just a I mean, I think I paid fifteen dollars

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<v Speaker 4>for it on Amazon, to be honest. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 4>can do it in steps. I can't I can't see

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<v Speaker 4>what the color temperature is, but I can just do

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<v Speaker 4>it in steps. And I kind of just picked what

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean you're still gonna get You're still you're

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<v Speaker 2>flush cut every single one of them as God intended,

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<v Speaker 2>So I've got all my cables either running in the

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<v Speaker 2>But other than really two spots and they're both tied

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<v Speaker 2>to my wife's computer. You can't see any of the

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I gotta say, talking about the flush cutting of

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<v Speaker 3>They've all been through it.

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<v Speaker 1>Zero commented on on our TikTok page thing not if

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<v Speaker 1>you do them right, My zip ties break before they

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<v Speaker 3>Is that a good thing? I forty five them.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think he's somebody who likes to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>somebody gets a jagged edge in their arm. Mike Gasser wrote,

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<v Speaker 3>Use velcrow.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say to that comment about fl crow. Use

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<v Speaker 4>this is what I was taught in the years I've been.

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<v Speaker 1>In the industry.

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<v Speaker 4>You use selcrow for fiber optics because of the bend radius,

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<v Speaker 4>because if you pinch them too tight with with zip ties,

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<v Speaker 4>it can break the internal glass strands.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, anything else.

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<v Speaker 4>Is fair game for zip ties.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right? If we got another one too. I

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<v Speaker 1>like this one. This one guy mirror Riker said to you, shun,

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<v Speaker 1>suck it up, Buttercup, that slack has function.

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<v Speaker 2>No it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 4>If you do it right, you cut to length and

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<v Speaker 4>then underneath the rack, you leave yourself a nice service loop.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was right, though I created a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of a lot of conversation about the flesh cutting those

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<v Speaker 1>and honestly I had no idea. I was left a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit on there, so I was doing them wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I mean, anybody that has is saying suck

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<v Speaker 4>it up, Buttercup, has never cursed somebody's name, reaching into

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<v Speaker 4>the back of a racket slicing around open. I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you just haven't. You can cry about it

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<v Speaker 4>all day long and say sucking up butter Cup, but

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<v Speaker 4>you just you just haven't put in the work.

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<v Speaker 2>I have sanctified more than one rack in my lifetime

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<v Speaker 2>that I had no desire to sanctify.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not fun.

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<v Speaker 2>No. I remember coming home from one and we had

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<v Speaker 2>moved a rack. We had moved three racks between data centers,

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<v Speaker 2>and we were trying to do it in one day.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think I got home at like two am

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<v Speaker 2>and my wife who at the time she was at

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<v Speaker 2>the time she was my girlfriend. Damn, that was a

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<v Speaker 2>long time ago. And she just looks at me and

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<v Speaker 2>she was like, oh my god, what happened to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you get in like a fight in the parking lot?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, now, I've been working in a server

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<v Speaker 2>rack all day. This is just how you look when

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<v Speaker 2>you're done.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, all right, well that that that isn't a

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<v Speaker 1>big pretty good now. One of the things we also

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was like, right up your alley and you

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<v Speaker 1>have a mechanical keyboard you wanted to tell us about.

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<v Speaker 3>That is something that should be something.

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<v Speaker 1>That this this lady whose son is saying, hey, mom,

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<v Speaker 1>I want a mechanical keyboard.

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<v Speaker 3>I need it. You're saying, yeah, this is this is

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<v Speaker 3>the one to.

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<v Speaker 2>Get technically, if if we're if we're being honest here,

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<v Speaker 2>because admitting you have a problem is the start of

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<v Speaker 2>fixing a problem. I have six mechanical keyboards well, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>scattered throughout my house. The one that I picked up though,

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<v Speaker 2>I found on my last trip to Microcenter, which, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, my fellow techie people. Our trips to microcenter

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<v Speaker 2>are like handy people's trips to Low's or home depot.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you're not doing the project right if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to go back at least once.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, That's how it used to be.

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<v Speaker 3>With Fries. We have Fries Electronics out here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah h yeah, but I found this one. The company

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<v Speaker 2>And with keyboards, it used to be keyboards came in

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<v Speaker 2>just one size. Yeah, the whole keyboard, number pad, everything

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<v Speaker 2>like that. That is considered a one hundred percent keyboard.

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<v Speaker 2>My favorite setup is usually somewhere between the seventy five

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<v Speaker 2>to eighty percent. So in this case, like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a number pad, I have a delete, a page up,

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<v Speaker 2>page down, and a home key. But then a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of keyboards will provide additional layers through the function key.

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<v Speaker 2>So for like me to use the end key, I

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<v Speaker 2>just hit function home. But this keyboard is the key

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<v Speaker 2>Cron V one max. It is a seventy five percent

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<v Speaker 2>keyboard with mechanical switches and it is just packed full

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<v Speaker 2>of features. I have it plugged in via USBC, which

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<v Speaker 2>allows it to charge the internal battery because it can

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<v Speaker 2>be wireless, but not just wireless like your usual like

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<v Speaker 2>like a Logitech where it's got the little dongle it

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<v Speaker 2>has that. It's got two of them. Actually, it has

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<v Speaker 2>one that's old school USBA on the other is USB C,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it's got a slot for both of them

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<v Speaker 2>to fit in the back that's almost flush, so if

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<v Speaker 2>you're not using it, you can just pop it and

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<v Speaker 2>store it in the keyboard without having to take a

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<v Speaker 2>case off or anything. Fully rechargeable internal battery, and it

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<v Speaker 2>can also be Bluetooth. It also has a neat little

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<v Speaker 2>switch that will switch between whether you want to use

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<v Speaker 2>it for Mac or you want to use it for Windows,

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<v Speaker 2>and the other thing it says on both of those

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<v Speaker 2>is iOS or Android, so it is compatible with everything.

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<v Speaker 1>So in essence, if somebody has their smartphone and they've

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<v Speaker 1>got it, you know, propped up or a tablet, say

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<v Speaker 1>whether it be an iOS, you know, iPad or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>they can actually use that keyboard to type out on

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<v Speaker 1>the iPad or yes. The again nice nice and you

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<v Speaker 1>said the storage on it is there storage?

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<v Speaker 2>There's not storage per se. There is a there's online

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<v Speaker 2>software that you can access on key cron site called qmkuh,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can use that to actually configure and rewrite

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<v Speaker 2>the firmware on the keyboard. So the other thing that's

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<v Speaker 2>cool with mechanical keyboards is you know you can pop

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<v Speaker 2>off your key caps because with the mechanical keyboard you

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<v Speaker 2>have switches and then key caps that sit on top

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<v Speaker 2>of the switches. So if you want to do a

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<v Speaker 2>non standard layout, what we consider a standard layout is

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<v Speaker 2>your quirity QW E R T Y. Well, we all

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<v Speaker 2>learned to type on quirity keyboards came about to actually

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<v Speaker 2>slow down the human capability for typing with typewriters because

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<v Speaker 2>humans would type too fast with some of the first

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<v Speaker 2>layouts they did and would cause the typewriters to jam.

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<v Speaker 2>So Cordy is actually designed to slow you down. So

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<v Speaker 2>there are other non standard keyboard layouts you could do.

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<v Speaker 2>The two most popular are Devora and uh Cole Mack

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<v Speaker 2>coll Mac Yeah, Cole Mack. So you can go in

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<v Speaker 2>and rewrite the firmware for this keyboard to turn it

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<v Speaker 2>into those and then just switch the key caps around

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<v Speaker 2>and there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, pretty nice, And now I did well, you showed it.

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<v Speaker 3>To us earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>It did it, I can do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's uh, so the listeners can get a look if

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<v Speaker 1>they check out the video of the site. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>was looking at it, going okay, I have Steel series

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<v Speaker 1>uh you know, mechanical keyboard.

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<v Speaker 3>It lights up, but it's all beautiful. Does this light up?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it RGB?

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<v Speaker 2>If you look, you'll see it gently kind of here

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<v Speaker 2>in the shadows light up. If I switched out to

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<v Speaker 2>a see through uh set of key caps, it would

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<v Speaker 2>definitely shine a lot more. This one's a little different,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of like Steel series uh, sean yours that

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<v Speaker 2>you showed up.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>They usually do north facing RGB, so the light is

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<v Speaker 2>at the north end of the switch. They configure this

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<v Speaker 2>so that the RGB is actually at the south end,

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<v Speaker 2>which you know most people are gonna be okay, And

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<v Speaker 2>but because of the angle of the keyboard, it actually

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<v Speaker 2>angle as if it were north facing. So even if

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of get a look at the switches between

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<v Speaker 2>the keys, you're not suddenly like, oh, I wonder what's

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it's purple and so bright.

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<v Speaker 1>How's it feel to type on it? Because again that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the selling point.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's like typing on butter I I'm finding excuses

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<v Speaker 2>to type on this keyboard. For the keyboard nerds who

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<v Speaker 2>are listening to the show, the switches are the gator

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<v Speaker 2>on Jupiter Brown. When we talk about switches, there's really

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<v Speaker 2>three different feelings you can get with them. They're defined

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<v Speaker 2>as linear, tactile, and clickie. Linear is just key go up,

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<v Speaker 2>key go down. Yeah, there's nothing fancy clicky. As you type,

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<v Speaker 2>click click click that you see in all the old

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<v Speaker 2>eighties Hollywood movies of somebody hacking on a computer.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly tactile.

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<v Speaker 2>You get the physical sensation like of the clickie. You

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<v Speaker 2>feel the attenuation point of one of the key registers,

430
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<v Speaker 2>but there's no audible component with it. So these are

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<v Speaker 2>tactile keys. But what Keykron has done it's really nice,

432
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<v Speaker 2>is they actually put two layers of sound dampening foam

433
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<v Speaker 2>and they mounted it via a gasket mount instead of

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<v Speaker 2>a hardmount, which gives it just a little bit of flex.

435
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<v Speaker 2>But because of that, as you're typing on this thing,

436
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<v Speaker 2>and I experimented with it, like I was banging out

437
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<v Speaker 2>on that keyboard, and it's the quietest mechanical keyboard I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever typed on in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you can find this, you said Microcenter.

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<v Speaker 2>You can the one. It's the V one Max. You

441
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<v Speaker 2>can find it at Microcenter. I am pretty sure. Well,

442
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<v Speaker 2>I know you can also find it on their website

443
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<v Speaker 2>along with all their other keyboards. I'm checking to see

444
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<v Speaker 2>if it's on Amazon right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Because all we have to a break.

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<v Speaker 1>But when we come back, Sean got something and I

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<v Speaker 1>think you got a great deal too on it.

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<v Speaker 4>Bl I'm assuming it's a Black Friday deal because it's

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<v Speaker 4>at the beginning of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Week, but yeah, it's got to be. So when we

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<v Speaker 1>come back, we'll find out what it is that he got. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the meantime, Matt's going to see if this

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<v Speaker 1>is available on Amazon, and if so, we'll go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and put a link to it on our blog and

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<v Speaker 1>website as well.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll be back with more of tech Talk Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>You can find us on Facebook at facebook dot com

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<v Speaker 4>So during the break, I was curious because I couldn't

462
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<v Speaker 4>remember what switches my keyboard ass. I have the Steal

463
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<v Speaker 4>series Apex M seven to fifty, which is no longer mall.

464
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<v Speaker 4>I bought it like seven years ago.

465
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<v Speaker 1>Still series career. I've always loved them.

466
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<v Speaker 4>And it has the QX two linear mechanical switches. So

467
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<v Speaker 4>if you were listening before, it linear just means the

468
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<v Speaker 4>buttles up and goes down. There's no force feedback, there's

469
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<v Speaker 4>no clickie. It's just it's relatively quiet, but it's it's

470
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<v Speaker 4>a small I have a seventy five percent, so I

471
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<v Speaker 4>don't have the numpad, but I have the home insert

472
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<v Speaker 4>delete page page donkeys. And when I was looking at

473
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<v Speaker 4>keyboards right and I just wanted something relatively inexpensive, I

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<v Speaker 4>went to the mechanical keyboard subreddette, which, as Matt was

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<v Speaker 4>saying at the end of the last segment, you can

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<v Speaker 4>really go down a rabbit hole with that. Really, you

477
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<v Speaker 4>can get get people that are going to argue about

478
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<v Speaker 4>what switches better no way.

479
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<v Speaker 3>Really, They'll they'll argue.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh yeah, do you want to?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I mean to break it down to Layman's terms, right,

482
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<v Speaker 4>it's Ford versus Chevy versus Fiat. Right, it's like everybody's

483
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<v Speaker 4>gonna have their own opinion on why there's better.

484
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<v Speaker 2>Wow and they and it'll it'll get heated. And I

485
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<v Speaker 2>do not mean that in like a friendly like oh

486
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<v Speaker 2>that's a good point. I mean like some dude will

487
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<v Speaker 2>be like, you like very MX reds, your bloodline is

488
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<v Speaker 2>weak and then proceed to like cuss you out about

489
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<v Speaker 2>why you're using like the basic Betty of switches. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you were a real mechanical keyboard fan, what you'd

491
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<v Speaker 2>be looking at is, you know, the Holy Panda X

492
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<v Speaker 2>tank mech Warrior switches only available from November first through

493
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<v Speaker 2>sixth on this one specific website. And I'm like, when

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<v Speaker 2>I first got into mechanical keyboards, I was like, I

495
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<v Speaker 2>thought I could make nerds fight. And I say that

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<v Speaker 2>as a nerd, But then I walked into that room

497
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<v Speaker 2>and it was it's like walking into a bar mid

498
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<v Speaker 2>bar fight.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh boy.

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<v Speaker 2>With some of those posts, like you walk in and

501
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<v Speaker 2>like you just look at the post title and you're like, oh,

502
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<v Speaker 2>somebody woke up and chose violence this morning. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So sub the subreddits, uh, do people get on there

504
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<v Speaker 1>and just argue about like you know, windows versus mac Uh? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, man, oh wow, do you.

506
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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to find a spot for nerds to

507
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<v Speaker 2>fight about a very specif niche set of things. There's

508
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<v Speaker 2>going to be a subreddit for it. There's because you're.

509
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<v Speaker 1>Literally a subardd for everything great, oh Man, good and

510
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<v Speaker 1>bad under the Sun. Now we were talking about the

511
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<v Speaker 1>deals that you know you could get down, Matt, were

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<v Speaker 1>you able to find Is this keyboard that we talked about?

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<v Speaker 3>Is this available on Amazon?

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<v Speaker 2>It is available on Amazon. It is available on Amazon

515
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<v Speaker 2>for a current cost of like eighty three dollars, which

516
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<v Speaker 2>is less than I paid for it. We will put

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<v Speaker 2>the link up on our blog for this week's show. Yeah,

518
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<v Speaker 2>but when you go in you can choose the switches

519
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<v Speaker 2>you want in there. They've got Gator on Jupiter reds, Browns,

520
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<v Speaker 2>and Bananas, which, honestly, guys, just just just google it

521
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<v Speaker 2>and look at it. Don't go to a sob breddit.

522
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<v Speaker 2>Just google what is like Gator on Jupiter brown and

523
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<v Speaker 2>just go with what Gemini tells you. So don't join this.

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<v Speaker 1>The mom, the mom that was trying to get this

525
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<v Speaker 1>mechanical keyboard for her kid that had emailed us, I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she could walk in to a Best Buy and buy

527
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<v Speaker 1>a Steel Series, Corsair or you know, Logitech mechanical keyboard.

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<v Speaker 1>She's gonna get, that's what you're gonna get. This sounds

529
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<v Speaker 1>like you have options. What is something she should know though,

530
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<v Speaker 1>going in going onto Amazon looking at this keyboard and

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<v Speaker 1>getting what should she get.

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<v Speaker 2>If this is if this is just for her kid

533
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<v Speaker 2>and they're looking for a decent mechanical keyboard. Honestly, this

534
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<v Speaker 2>is the one that they should probably get if the

535
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<v Speaker 2>kid wants to have, you know, the number pad what

536
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<v Speaker 2>we talked about earlier, the full hundred percent sized keyboard

537
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<v Speaker 2>Keycron has those. I would do those as well. The

538
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<v Speaker 2>thing about Steel Series, Razor, Glorious mechanical gaming keyboards, Red Dragon,

539
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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think of some of the other Corsair. Yeah,

540
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<v Speaker 2>they're overpriced, and they are overpriced by a lot. Most

541
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<v Speaker 2>of them. You have to use their proprietary software, which

542
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<v Speaker 2>is crap. The Corsair IQ I'm specifically going to call

543
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<v Speaker 2>out along with Razors Razor Zone as like some of

544
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<v Speaker 2>the worst vendor specific software I've had to use from

545
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<v Speaker 2>those Steel Series GG is also right up there, and

546
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<v Speaker 2>you have to use this proprietary junk to do the

547
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<v Speaker 2>same stuff that I was talking about. That is for

548
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<v Speaker 2>free on keycron site with QMK. I don't have to

549
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<v Speaker 2>sign up for it. I don't have to let them

550
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<v Speaker 2>into my system. I just do it that way. But

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<v Speaker 2>the other thing is, like this keyboard right now for

552
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<v Speaker 2>eighty three dollars is ridiculous. It is, and they're beefy

553
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<v Speaker 2>like just feeling this thing, it feels solid. You have

554
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<v Speaker 2>the other ones that do the full aluminum chassis. I

555
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<v Speaker 2>did the plastic instead, which, yeah, it's got a little

556
00:27:46.200 --> 00:27:48.480
<v Speaker 2>bit of bend to it, but it's you know, you're

557
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<v Speaker 2>in a plastic case. If you want the real hefty

558
00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:54.000
<v Speaker 2>one that's an aluminum case, Like, there's gonna be no

559
00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:57.759
<v Speaker 2>bend to that unless you're really muscling it. But don't

560
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<v Speaker 2>buy the ones you're going to see most of the

561
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<v Speaker 2>time when you go into best Buy, like you Keikron Oh, no,

562
00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:08.960
<v Speaker 2>that one was expensive. No, cron is kind of the

563
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<v Speaker 2>way to go.

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<v Speaker 4>But man, right now, I'm just we're talking about it

565
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<v Speaker 4>right I'm looking at their website and there are fifty

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<v Speaker 4>five dollars keyboards on their website. Key kron k one

567
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<v Speaker 4>Mechanical warows. Now it doesn't have the fancy switches, but

568
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<v Speaker 4>it has cherry switches, which are cheaper.

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<v Speaker 2>Cherry switches are just wine for fifty for forty five,

570
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<v Speaker 2>that's perfect.

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<v Speaker 4>So I encourage her to look at the website. Look,

572
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<v Speaker 4>go to their website, look at Amazon, like you can

573
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<v Speaker 4>get a mechanical keyboard for fifty five dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>The other nice feature that you want to try and

575
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<v Speaker 2>find with a mechanical keyboard is something called hot swappable switches.

576
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<v Speaker 1>Ah, yes, yeah.

577
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<v Speaker 2>And the reason the reason you want hot swappable switches

578
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<v Speaker 2>is we talked about earlier how you can just pop

579
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<v Speaker 2>your key caps off of the switches. These will come

580
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<v Speaker 2>with something called a switch puller, which just actually I've

581
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<v Speaker 2>got one right here, right, So this is a switch puller.

582
00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:06.000
<v Speaker 2>It just looks like an oversized pair of tweezers, but

583
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<v Speaker 2>you will actually, you know right that there we go,

584
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<v Speaker 2>that's actually how it's supposed to look. Mind, get a

585
00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:13.440
<v Speaker 2>little squished, but then you'll just go into the keyboard

586
00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:16.359
<v Speaker 2>crimp it. And you know, you'll obviously want to unplug

587
00:29:16.359 --> 00:29:18.799
<v Speaker 2>the keyboard first, but then just a solid yank up

588
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:21.720
<v Speaker 2>and that switch comes out. Because as we've talked about,

589
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:25.119
<v Speaker 2>it's a mechanical keyboard, it's a mechanical component. It's going

590
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:28.960
<v Speaker 2>to eventually wear out. A hot swappable keyboard will allow

591
00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:31.039
<v Speaker 2>you to just yank those out, go buy new switches

592
00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:33.279
<v Speaker 2>and plug them in, as opposed to one that is

593
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<v Speaker 2>not hot swappable. That means that those those those switches

594
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<v Speaker 2>have actually been soldered to the PCB, which is the

595
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:45.000
<v Speaker 2>control board for the keyboard. And if they're soldered in there,

596
00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:48.119
<v Speaker 2>then you have to do the whole thing of break

597
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:51.240
<v Speaker 2>it down, undo the soldering, get a new one, trim it. No,

598
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:53.079
<v Speaker 2>no one's got time for that. Just go for one

599
00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:56.079
<v Speaker 2>that's hot swappable. Because also as your kid gets older

600
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<v Speaker 2>and they start falling down this rabbit hole, because trying

601
00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:02.319
<v Speaker 2>buying one mechanical keyboard is like trying just a little

602
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<v Speaker 2>bit of crack. It's definitely not going to have any

603
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<v Speaker 2>effect on the rest of your life. Eventually, they're gonna

604
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<v Speaker 2>be like, I want to try a different set of switches. Well,

605
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<v Speaker 2>if you have a hot swappable one, you can do that,

606
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<v Speaker 2>and you just pay for the switches, which are one

607
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<v Speaker 2>of the cheapest components you can get.

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<v Speaker 1>Right all right, now, again, we want our listener to

609
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<v Speaker 1>find the links up on our website, some great, great

610
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<v Speaker 1>raves for this company that makes these. Now in the meantime, Sean,

611
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<v Speaker 1>you know, had been looking on Amazon and he found

612
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<v Speaker 1>he got an email in and it was a good deal,

613
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<v Speaker 1>and you decided to go ahead and go for it.

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<v Speaker 4>So I got on Monday, I got a Black Friday

615
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<v Speaker 4>email from Dji saying, hey, look at our deals right,

616
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<v Speaker 4>and it had you know, okay, it had the drones,

617
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<v Speaker 4>it had the osmos, it had the action cameras, and

618
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<v Speaker 4>at the very bottom, it had the DJI Power one thousand.

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<v Speaker 4>We talked about this when they launched it. Right, So

620
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<v Speaker 4>it's a solar generator right right, it's a lithium ion

621
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<v Speaker 4>or lithium iron phosphate battery that has all the bells

622
00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:06.119
<v Speaker 4>and whistles of a generator. It's got AC, it's got

623
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<v Speaker 4>one hundred and twenty vold AC, it's got DC, it's got

624
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<v Speaker 4>it's a great kit to put in the camper when

625
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<v Speaker 4>we go camping. Oh yeah, And it said forty percent

626
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<v Speaker 4>off and I was like, oh, that's that's great. It's

627
00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:21.079
<v Speaker 4>been on my list of things to buy when it

628
00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:23.720
<v Speaker 4>goes on sale. So then I clicked checked the deals

629
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<v Speaker 4>on Amazon, but from the Dji store it was forty

630
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<v Speaker 4>eight percent off okay, And I was like, okay, well,

631
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<v Speaker 4>I got a code in my email, so I'm gonna

632
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:35.920
<v Speaker 4>see if I could put that code in at checkout,

633
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<v Speaker 4>and it gave me an additional forty dollars off.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, so I paid.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you go if normally this is like a

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<v Speaker 4>nine hundred and not almost one thousand dollars piece of hardware,

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<v Speaker 4>I paid three eighty four it on Amazon.

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<v Speaker 3>Amazing. Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>So with with the with the with their forty percent

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<v Speaker 4>off plus I don't know if I cheat it by

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<v Speaker 4>using the code at the same time, but hey, if

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna give me the discount, I'm gonna take it.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm, you know, very thrilled to have this coming.

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<v Speaker 4>I should have it by you know, mid December, because

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<v Speaker 4>it's gonna take a little while to ship. But no, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm very excited to have it and play with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this the big one that is on wheels and

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<v Speaker 1>you could roller around?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that? No, it's not.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not that big. It's I don't know what the

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<v Speaker 4>size is, but it looks like.

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<v Speaker 2>A shoe box sat on its side.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's probably you know, six or seven inches by,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, twelve inches long. It's like a shit like

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<v Speaker 4>a shoe box. That's that's a good size for it.

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<v Speaker 4>But for what we do when we go camping, or

657
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<v Speaker 4>if I'm out with you know, Steve, my buddy Steve,

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<v Speaker 4>we're doing astro photography or something, I can charge all

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<v Speaker 4>my devices. Right if I'm doing cam radio stuff, I

660
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<v Speaker 4>don't need to take my you know, I don't have

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<v Speaker 4>to plug a twelve olt into my car and run

662
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<v Speaker 4>twelve volt for my car. This will sustain that. So

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<v Speaker 4>when we go camping and we want to watch TV

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<v Speaker 4>or we want to do something, we could just have this.

665
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<v Speaker 4>It charges up. It has the ability to plug in

666
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<v Speaker 4>directly into solar panels, so I can just plug it

667
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<v Speaker 4>into my camper and it'll charge this. But like it'll

668
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<v Speaker 4>use the solar from my camper to charge this.

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<v Speaker 1>So wow, Now, how much how much power can you

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<v Speaker 1>get out of something like this? So say you go

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<v Speaker 1>out your park, Okay, this is where it's going to

672
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<v Speaker 1>be for the night. You can watch television, have some lights.

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<v Speaker 3>How much?

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<v Speaker 4>So it's the ratings are right. It's it's ony twenty

675
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<v Speaker 4>four watt hour, which is pretty good. Uh, and it

676
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<v Speaker 4>says it's a twenty two hundred sustained wattage output twenty

677
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<v Speaker 4>six hundred peak, So you could even run potentially a

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<v Speaker 4>like a small air conditioner.

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<v Speaker 1>Really wow, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>If you have it, so don't go out and think

681
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<v Speaker 4>you can just take it an old camper and run,

682
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<v Speaker 4>you know, run your air conditioner off an old camper.

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<v Speaker 4>My camper has what they call a soft start, which

684
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<v Speaker 4>means it does a soft load and builds the aster

685
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<v Speaker 4>charge up before it draws, so it doesn't have to

686
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<v Speaker 4>draw as much like the max. You know, the draw

687
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<v Speaker 4>is lower. So there are consumer level air conditioners that

688
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<v Speaker 4>you can draw, get soft start draws on and get

689
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<v Speaker 4>lower draw from they're starting. But we're gonna be comfortable.

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<v Speaker 4>You can run an AC fan, you can. You know you're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you recommend people maybe become a member of the

693
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<v Speaker 1>DJI mailing list and maybe they'll get this deal sent

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<v Speaker 1>to them.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, Like yeah, I mean, I'm just on

696
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<v Speaker 4>it because I have been for god knows how long.

697
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<v Speaker 4>But I mean they have deals on all of their stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything for the holidays that you've seen.

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<v Speaker 3>Have they I got?

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<v Speaker 4>I got any I'm not interested in any more WISE

701
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<v Speaker 4>stuff right now because they really haven't innovated. I really

702
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<v Speaker 4>haven't seen anything that has completely stuck out, like I

703
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<v Speaker 4>have to have it. Whise, if you're listening, please, to

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<v Speaker 4>the love of God, bring back motion sensors so I

705
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<v Speaker 4>can trigger the life it's in my garage with just

706
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<v Speaker 4>emotion sensor. I don't have to dedicate a camera to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you know that.

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<v Speaker 3>Why Why is this been working a lot with Roku?

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<v Speaker 1>And matter of fact, if you see the cameras that

710
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<v Speaker 1>Roku has, those are basically WISE cameras and Roku has

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<v Speaker 1>a motion sensing kit. And I'm wondering if maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>just said, Okay, well we'll not do that, you go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and do that. You know, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>they how they worked that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, they had them originally, like when when I first

716
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:25.760
<v Speaker 4>bought my cameras, when I bought the original V two's,

717
00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:30.440
<v Speaker 4>they had like a door sensor kits right window sensor

718
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:32.880
<v Speaker 4>kids like the magnet ones where if it loses the magnet,

719
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<v Speaker 4>it'll trigger the trigger whatever function you wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 4>But then when they went to their clot more of

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<v Speaker 4>the AI like tracking stuff, they got rid of that

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<v Speaker 4>because they wanted you to rely on your cameras to

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<v Speaker 4>do the sensing. Right, you have a camera, your camera

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<v Speaker 4>de text movement, your camera to text motion, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 4>et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know Roku does have that a home security

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<v Speaker 1>monitoring kit which is a pretty good integrate with your

728
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<v Speaker 1>television as well, which is kind of neat. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you're watching TV, your camera can pop up. They can

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<v Speaker 1>notify you while you're watching your show without having a

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<v Speaker 1>look down at your smartphone. All right, we got to

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<v Speaker 1>take another quick break.

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<v Speaker 3>We come back. We have listener questions.

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<v Speaker 1>We've gotten a lot over the last couple of days,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll share one that's standing by.

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<v Speaker 1>message at five two zero seven seven seven ninety five

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<v Speaker 1>eighty and Al needed some thoughts on installing Windows eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>He told He told me that his system qualifies to

746
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<v Speaker 1>run Windows eleven from Windows ten, but he's heard that

747
00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:50.559
<v Speaker 1>there have been bugs with Windows eleven? Should he wait

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<v Speaker 1>or pull the trigger and install Windows eleven now rather

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<v Speaker 1>than waiting all the way till October? That's when you

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<v Speaker 1>know the support will kind of end for Whindo ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Windows ten will still run, but the sport will land? Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Or should should he do it before that?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow? I feel uniquely qualified to answer this question.

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<v Speaker 3>You just went, You took you bit the bullet, right

755
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<v Speaker 3>he went?

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<v Speaker 4>He went like two days ago, and I went about

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<v Speaker 4>a month before that, So that's right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Or seann A, you is bitter about it as I am?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, and so I just I don't know that

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<v Speaker 4>I've I've complained about this before, but it's like, I

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<v Speaker 4>just I'm sick of the bloat that comes to Windows, right,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sick of ads in the home screen, ads on

764
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<v Speaker 4>the start bar, like not necessarily ads, but like search

765
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<v Speaker 4>recommendations and all this sort of stuff. Yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 4>stripped mine down to the bare bones as most as

767
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<v Speaker 4>you can do. So, but I wasn't bitter about it,

768
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<v Speaker 4>but I definitely waited longer than most people.

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<v Speaker 3>All Right, So I what do you say?

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<v Speaker 4>Just do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Just get it over with just it's like rip off

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<v Speaker 2>a band aid, like it's gonna come off. You don't.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't really have a choice. Windows ten. The official

774
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<v Speaker 2>EOL is October fourteenth of next year. That means it's

775
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<v Speaker 2>still gonna function, but you are not going to have

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<v Speaker 2>any more security updates, any more future updates. The current

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<v Speaker 2>version twenty two to h two is the last version.

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<v Speaker 2>For comparison's sake, I think I'm on like twenty four

779
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<v Speaker 2>h something with Windows eleven. It's gonna be more secure.

780
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<v Speaker 2>Windows is still getting the security patches and security updates

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<v Speaker 2>and Defender updates and things like that, but man, just

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<v Speaker 2>just pull the band aid off. There's some things about

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<v Speaker 2>it that, like Sean was mentioning that I really don't like. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I miss my old start menu have come up. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>all my crap, Yeah, here's the stuff that I've pinned. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>you open it and it's like here's all the pin stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and underneath it is like here's all our recommendations. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>if you turn off recommendations, that includes like continually open

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<v Speaker 2>files things like that. But it's also the random bloat

790
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<v Speaker 2>ad junk that they're going to float your way of,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, have you has your aunt Debbie twice removed.

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<v Speaker 2>Not convince you to download Candy Crush Saga yet let

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<v Speaker 2>me give you six ads for it every single day

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<v Speaker 2>while you're just trying to find word right.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, that is there things that OWL should do before

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<v Speaker 1>making the jump. Did you do anything before you said, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna install Windows eleven on it.

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<v Speaker 3>I should do this first.

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<v Speaker 4>So with bailes obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I was gonna say with me, I've got

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<v Speaker 2>everything spread across three different hard drives in it, so

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<v Speaker 2>if it nukes my my files are fine. But for

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<v Speaker 2>most users, you definitely want to do a backup of

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<v Speaker 2>your files first and not like you know, oh I

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<v Speaker 2>did a backup on the same hard drive, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be installing it on No back it up to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you've just got a couple of word documents and

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<v Speaker 2>some pictures, like, you can throw it on a USB

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<v Speaker 2>key or just get an external hard drive or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's cloud providers. You can do Google one that you

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<v Speaker 2>can get up to a terabyte. You can do. Apple

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<v Speaker 2>has theirs if you're in that infrastructure for your mobile devices,

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<v Speaker 2>Sugar Sinc. There's there's all sorts of cloud providers you

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<v Speaker 2>can also do, but definitely definitely back up your stuff first.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, when you're done installing it and you have

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<v Speaker 2>run it, and you're a week, a month, however long

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<v Speaker 2>you're comfortable, it's down the road and you're like, I

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<v Speaker 2>am not going to go back. Because when you do this,

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<v Speaker 2>this is called an in place upgrade. The way Windows

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<v Speaker 2>does that is it basically kind of like boxes up

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<v Speaker 2>your old operating system, puts it on a digital shelf

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<v Speaker 2>over here, and then installs Windows eleven and pulls some

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<v Speaker 2>stuff out of there and puts it back in. When

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<v Speaker 2>you've had this long enough, you open up your start

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<v Speaker 2>menu and type in disk cleanup two words, and there'll

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<v Speaker 2>be a little option says run as administrator. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you do and check all those boxes, one of them

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<v Speaker 2>is remove previous Windows installation. And for me, as soon

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<v Speaker 2>as I ran that, that was thirty eight gigabytes that

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<v Speaker 2>I got back on my operating system hard drive.

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<v Speaker 3>That's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's something you want to do later.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, here's one for Mike. Now, Mike did the

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<v Speaker 1>original musical theme for the show. Mike drives a truck

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<v Speaker 1>for a living, but he's a musician. And I've known

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<v Speaker 1>Mike for a long time. But he set us a

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<v Speaker 1>note and he says, I want to make short videos

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<v Speaker 1>with AI on YouTube with my music. He said, what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of software is good for something like this? What

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<v Speaker 1>might I need to know? I thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for your help so far, and thank you in advance.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Andy, you've been you've been sending us some really

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<v Speaker 2>cool like snipped for social media stuff. What are you

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<v Speaker 2>using for that?

845
00:41:56.960 --> 00:42:01.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm using alloclip for that? And that is that allo

846
00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:02.239
<v Speaker 1>clip opus clip.

847
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:02.639
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry.

848
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:04.559
<v Speaker 1>Illoclip was a little camera you used to be able

849
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:06.800
<v Speaker 1>to put on your smartphone. But opus clip and that

850
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:09.280
<v Speaker 1>you know that creates those. But I think what he

851
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:12.840
<v Speaker 1>wants is a complete AI driven scenario.

852
00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:13.719
<v Speaker 3>And I've been.

853
00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:17.679
<v Speaker 1>On on the socials like like TikTok and Instagram reels,

854
00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:20.559
<v Speaker 1>and I've been seeing like there's one I saw with

855
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:23.599
<v Speaker 1>a baby and a cat, and the first time I

856
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:26.000
<v Speaker 1>saw it, I thought, oh, that's really cute the baby

857
00:42:26.039 --> 00:42:28.440
<v Speaker 1>and the cat or the babies laughing. The cat made

858
00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:31.159
<v Speaker 1>the baby laugh. And then I watched a couple of

859
00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:34.920
<v Speaker 1>more and I realized that's AI. It's all of it's AI.

860
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:40.599
<v Speaker 1>There's and there's other ones that are completely driven AI,

861
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:44.559
<v Speaker 1>and I'm wondering what program could be used to create that.

862
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:46.400
<v Speaker 1>I you know, I explained to Mike, we may have

863
00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:48.159
<v Speaker 1>to do a little research on this, but.

864
00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:49.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think we're gonna have to because I don't

865
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:53.400
<v Speaker 4>know of anything that's completely AI driven just from there's

866
00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:55.079
<v Speaker 4>something that you have to you have to generate some

867
00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:55.920
<v Speaker 4>real content.

868
00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:58.159
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that's what I would be thinking too.

869
00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:00.800
<v Speaker 1>You know. I know there's great editing out there like

870
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:04.320
<v Speaker 1>cap cut that can help you create stuff, but again

871
00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:07.280
<v Speaker 1>for doing it from the complete AI standout of what

872
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:09.639
<v Speaker 1>AI could create. And I know that Mike said he

873
00:43:09.639 --> 00:43:12.239
<v Speaker 1>wants to have his dog be a superhero or his

874
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:15.960
<v Speaker 1>dog to be featured in them. We're gonna have to

875
00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:18.760
<v Speaker 1>research that one. If flicteners have been doing this kind

876
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:21.679
<v Speaker 1>of stuff or they know, please drop us the line

877
00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and let us know what would be a good one,

878
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:27.360
<v Speaker 1>all right. And then this one from Dave in Green

879
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Valley said, I'm hoping you might know. I have an

880
00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:33.280
<v Speaker 1>old hard drive that came out of a Windows XP machine.

881
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:36.519
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty it's pretty okay, he said, It's an eighty

882
00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:40.719
<v Speaker 1>gigabyte drive and I believe in ide drive. I want

883
00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:42.639
<v Speaker 1>to take a look at what was on it. It's

884
00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:45.480
<v Speaker 1>never was never backed up. What would I need to

885
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:47.360
<v Speaker 1>be able to do this? I only have a laptop

886
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:50.639
<v Speaker 1>from Dell and it won't fit inside that laptop.

887
00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:51.800
<v Speaker 2>No, it will not.

888
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:54.679
<v Speaker 4>So we talked about this at the bed of the show.

889
00:43:54.679 --> 00:43:56.239
<v Speaker 4>Because we talked. We talked a little bit about the

890
00:43:56.320 --> 00:43:58.440
<v Speaker 4>questions we're going to answer. And I have an answer

891
00:43:58.440 --> 00:43:58.559
<v Speaker 4>for this.

892
00:43:58.880 --> 00:43:59.840
<v Speaker 3>I've done it good.

893
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:06.039
<v Speaker 4>They make USB to IDE adapters.

894
00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:09.239
<v Speaker 3>Wait to IDE. I've seen the USB to SATA, but

895
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:10.360
<v Speaker 3>not the USB STA.

896
00:44:10.840 --> 00:44:13.599
<v Speaker 4>So I looked it up and I found one. So

897
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:17.519
<v Speaker 4>Microcenter has one for nineteen dollars. They can buy them

898
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:21.679
<v Speaker 4>on Amazon, but I trust Microcenter. It has the ability

899
00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:24.480
<v Speaker 4>to do the three and a half inch, two and

900
00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:27.639
<v Speaker 4>a half inch and SATA, not all at once, obviously,

901
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:31.800
<v Speaker 4>But it's USB three. You plug the drive into the adapter,

902
00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:33.920
<v Speaker 4>you plug it into your computer USB, and then you

903
00:44:33.960 --> 00:44:36.280
<v Speaker 4>power it. They have an external AC power so it

904
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:39.880
<v Speaker 4>powers the drive separately from your computer, and then the

905
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:41.199
<v Speaker 4>USB does the.

906
00:44:41.199 --> 00:44:44.679
<v Speaker 1>Data wow, and then he should be able to see what.

907
00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:46.239
<v Speaker 4>Was he should You should just be able to plug

908
00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:49.199
<v Speaker 4>the drive into the adapter, plug it USB into your

909
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:51.400
<v Speaker 4>computer and then put power to it. It should recognize it

910
00:44:51.400 --> 00:44:52.280
<v Speaker 4>as a USB drive.

911
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:53.519
<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's viable.

912
00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:56.039
<v Speaker 2>I've done that before, but it was years ago, but

913
00:44:56.159 --> 00:45:00.000
<v Speaker 2>it was ID. I was moving ide to Acetah heart

914
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:01.920
<v Speaker 2>drive and yeah, I used something like this and they

915
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:02.840
<v Speaker 2>work great.

916
00:45:03.159 --> 00:45:04.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I have a Now now.

917
00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:07.440
<v Speaker 4>If you're using a scuzzy drive, you're up up the

918
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:08.159
<v Speaker 4>green God.

919
00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:10.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah help you. And oh you can't.

920
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:12.440
<v Speaker 3>How would you? How would you get data off an

921
00:45:12.440 --> 00:45:13.760
<v Speaker 3>old scuzzy I.

922
00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:16.119
<v Speaker 4>Mean, find a mother and find a motherboard that supports

923
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:17.360
<v Speaker 4>scuzzy drives.

924
00:45:18.119 --> 00:45:20.639
<v Speaker 3>Or even an adapter card. You couldn't even do it that, right,

925
00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:20.960
<v Speaker 3>could you.

926
00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:22.719
<v Speaker 4>I don't even know if they make adapter carts or

927
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:25.199
<v Speaker 4>scusy drives. I'd have to look. That's such an old

928
00:45:26.320 --> 00:45:28.079
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm gonna have to look. But if you,

929
00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:32.400
<v Speaker 4>if you have a scuzzy drive and it works, send

930
00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:33.760
<v Speaker 4>it to me and I'll get the data off for you.

931
00:45:33.840 --> 00:45:36.159
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't know. I'd be interested to find

932
00:45:36.199 --> 00:45:38.679
<v Speaker 4>a scuzzy I mean I've seen some scuzzy drives and

933
00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:40.440
<v Speaker 4>some of the old stuff that I've gotten from friends

934
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:42.800
<v Speaker 4>and stuff, but I've never tried to pull the data off.

935
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:45.599
<v Speaker 1>Well, my wife had a medical billing business, and it

936
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:48.960
<v Speaker 1>was a had A server and I built it with

937
00:45:49.159 --> 00:45:50.039
<v Speaker 1>it's had scuzzy.

938
00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:51.559
<v Speaker 3>Her drive was a scusy drive.

939
00:45:51.960 --> 00:45:55.039
<v Speaker 1>But when she stopped doing that and got back into

940
00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:58.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, working over at Northwest, she she just ended

941
00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:01.119
<v Speaker 1>up not using it anymore. So it's still sitting in

942
00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:04.000
<v Speaker 1>the tower, but it's an old it's a Windows n

943
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:05.320
<v Speaker 1>T station workstation.

944
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:08.559
<v Speaker 2>So this is like I'm I'm looking at some of

945
00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:10.920
<v Speaker 2>this and seeing some of the solutions that these people

946
00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:13.800
<v Speaker 2>have put together, and it's like an adapter into an

947
00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:18.920
<v Speaker 2>adapter into an adapter into an adapter into USB. Thus

948
00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:22.519
<v Speaker 2>the comment earlier, God help you because we can't.

949
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Right becuse he is a little bit different bottle of waxe. Yeah,

950
00:46:26.079 --> 00:46:28.519
<v Speaker 1>but ID is good. I have a star doc which

951
00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:32.159
<v Speaker 1>I love, but it's it's it's basically just say that.

952
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:32.880
<v Speaker 3>That's all you can do.

953
00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:35.360
<v Speaker 1>You plug the drive in. It's neat because it has

954
00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:38.719
<v Speaker 1>two bays. You can plug the drive in, then you

955
00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:42.199
<v Speaker 1>can put another drive and you can actually copy the drives,

956
00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:45.519
<v Speaker 1>which I've done here at the radio station before as well.

957
00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:48.039
<v Speaker 1>But again for ide, I didn't even know there was

958
00:46:48.039 --> 00:46:50.840
<v Speaker 1>a cable solution that. So that one's pretty good. All right,

959
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:54.320
<v Speaker 1>one more as we approach you know, well we kind

960
00:46:54.320 --> 00:46:56.519
<v Speaker 1>of you know, Cyber Monday is going to be on Monday.

961
00:46:56.840 --> 00:47:00.440
<v Speaker 1>You have Black Friday, which was yesterday, but says I

962
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:03.119
<v Speaker 1>think you guys have talked about this before. I have

963
00:47:03.159 --> 00:47:07.440
<v Speaker 1>a forty inch television from about fifteen years ago. The

964
00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:09.480
<v Speaker 1>prices of this week for a fifty inch have been

965
00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:13.079
<v Speaker 1>pretty amazing. Is there anything I should consider before buying

966
00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:16.239
<v Speaker 1>a new TV? How do I know? It's a smart

967
00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:18.360
<v Speaker 1>TV that's from Mary in Tucson.

968
00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:24.360
<v Speaker 2>So most of the TVs that you're gonna see nowadays

969
00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:29.559
<v Speaker 2>will have some form of smart to them. It's just

970
00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:33.039
<v Speaker 2>kind of the way it's gone. There's gonna be some

971
00:47:33.280 --> 00:47:36.000
<v Speaker 2>form of you know, you have apps things like that.

972
00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:37.360
<v Speaker 4>That's why they're cheap.

973
00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:43.679
<v Speaker 2>That's as as we go towards Black Friday, I'm going

974
00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:46.320
<v Speaker 2>to give you a little secret from somebody who worked

975
00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:49.559
<v Speaker 2>too many Black Fridays at best Buy. Okay, when you

976
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:52.199
<v Speaker 2>are seeing these super cheap like you know, oh it's

977
00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:56.960
<v Speaker 2>an eighty inch panel for like four hundred dollars, it's

978
00:47:57.000 --> 00:48:01.440
<v Speaker 2>because that TV that skew was specifically designed for a

979
00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:04.639
<v Speaker 2>Black Friday sale and will never be made again. It

980
00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:08.880
<v Speaker 2>is not a staple model. It is not a part

981
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:13.920
<v Speaker 2>of the staple product line. It is literally like Brankenstein's

982
00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Television of a way for them to clear out old panels,

983
00:48:18.119 --> 00:48:22.079
<v Speaker 2>old parts, old cases, things like that to create a

984
00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:24.760
<v Speaker 2>TV and create that skew that they can sell super

985
00:48:24.840 --> 00:48:26.880
<v Speaker 2>cheap and that'll be the only day you find it.

986
00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh but now are they going to be good deals?

987
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:33.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean they're great deals for like the one year

988
00:48:33.519 --> 00:48:36.400
<v Speaker 2>that it's going to last. Oh, and then you're going

989
00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:39.320
<v Speaker 2>to start seeing issues because here's the other thing. These

990
00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:42.679
<v Speaker 2>these smart TVs basically have a mini computer inside of it,

991
00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:46.719
<v Speaker 2>and like any other computer, as it gets more updates

992
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:49.760
<v Speaker 2>because they keep coming through, Internet of Things is doing

993
00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:52.119
<v Speaker 2>a little bit better now about securing itself. But as

994
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:55.400
<v Speaker 2>you've got more updates coming through for the whatever operating

995
00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:59.400
<v Speaker 2>system it's using, the streaming apps themselves update as time

996
00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:02.679
<v Speaker 2>goes on, the computer starts, the TV starts to show

997
00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:05.760
<v Speaker 2>its age by slowing down. We have a Visio TV

998
00:49:05.840 --> 00:49:08.039
<v Speaker 2>upstairs that you hit the power button. It's like, okay,

999
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:09.639
<v Speaker 2>I want to go to Netflix. And it used to

1000
00:49:09.679 --> 00:49:14.039
<v Speaker 2>just you know, bop bop. Now it's kind of moseying

1001
00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:17.559
<v Speaker 2>along and taking its time, so you're going to see

1002
00:49:17.599 --> 00:49:23.159
<v Speaker 2>a more rapid decline of the software portions of it.

1003
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:27.840
<v Speaker 2>You'll start seeing hardware issues usually around a year and

1004
00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:31.119
<v Speaker 2>a half, maybe two years. But these are not TVs

1005
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:35.079
<v Speaker 2>that are meant to last. They're not by by technology

1006
00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:41.119
<v Speaker 2>and by business profit. They are designed to fail quickly.

1007
00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:44.119
<v Speaker 2>So if you're looking for a new TV, you know

1008
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:48.559
<v Speaker 2>you're coming up on a time where it's like, it's

1009
00:49:48.639 --> 00:49:50.920
<v Speaker 2>honestly a little bit of a risk for which you're

1010
00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:51.440
<v Speaker 2>gonna pick.

1011
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:54.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I'm thinking. I had an Insignia that

1012
00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:57.239
<v Speaker 1>I bought as a Black Friday sale, so forty inch.

1013
00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:02.280
<v Speaker 1>It lasted about three years, and you know, third year,

1014
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:05.760
<v Speaker 1>it just just stopped turning on. And so yeah, again

1015
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:08.480
<v Speaker 1>you could run into that. So I bought.

1016
00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:14.039
<v Speaker 4>I bought back in twenty ten, I bought a TCL

1017
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:18.000
<v Speaker 4>thirty two inch. I think it's thirty two inch. It's

1018
00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:18.519
<v Speaker 4>over there.

1019
00:50:18.480 --> 00:50:20.960
<v Speaker 3>Right, That thing still runs.

1020
00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:23.719
<v Speaker 4>It's not smart TV though, doesn't it doesn't have it

1021
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:26.159
<v Speaker 4>just it's just a TV. It's just a flat panel.

1022
00:50:26.320 --> 00:50:29.199
<v Speaker 1>But you could plug a Roku box into it, or.

1023
00:50:29.480 --> 00:50:31.360
<v Speaker 4>I ran it with a with a with an Amazon

1024
00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:34.480
<v Speaker 4>firestick for a long time and now it just serves

1025
00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:38.440
<v Speaker 4>as my retro gaming hub, so it's got all my

1026
00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:39.800
<v Speaker 4>retro gaming stuff plugged into it.

1027
00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it wasn't. Justin talking a few weeks

1028
00:50:41.840 --> 00:50:46.119
<v Speaker 2>ago about the new Google streamer. Yeah, because they bodied

1029
00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:48.079
<v Speaker 2>the Chrome cast and turned it into the streamer. So

1030
00:50:48.360 --> 00:50:50.840
<v Speaker 2>you don't necessarily need a smart TV. You can just

1031
00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:55.800
<v Speaker 2>you can spend that extra money on a really good panel.

1032
00:50:56.159 --> 00:51:00.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean for for large aspects panels and a large aspect.

1033
00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:03.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean you're looking at a big honkin TV, like

1034
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:07.639
<v Speaker 2>seventy inches or larger. I look. I like Sony, I

1035
00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:14.559
<v Speaker 2>really do. I I like TCL. They've improved a lot.

1036
00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:18.559
<v Speaker 2>They're another great one. They're partnered with They were partnered

1037
00:51:18.599 --> 00:51:20.840
<v Speaker 2>with Roku. I think they changed and they're now partnered

1038
00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:26.480
<v Speaker 2>with Android TV, which is also what I like with Sony. Yeah, TCL,

1039
00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Sony's good stay away from the the in house brands.

1040
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:32.679
<v Speaker 2>And what I mean with that is like for best Buy,

1041
00:51:32.840 --> 00:51:36.440
<v Speaker 2>Insignia and Dinex are produced by best Buy, they're best

1042
00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:40.760
<v Speaker 2>by brand. Walmart has own or On, Walmart has on

1043
00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:46.960
<v Speaker 2>and Walmart Actually, last I checked, Walmart bought Visio right yep.

1044
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:56.519
<v Speaker 2>But I you know, LG Samsung Sony. Yes, Sharp tcl Yes,

1045
00:51:56.559 --> 00:51:58.760
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna pay more for the name. But there's a

1046
00:51:58.800 --> 00:51:59.400
<v Speaker 2>reason for that.

1047
00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:01.920
<v Speaker 3>We gotta take another quick break. We come back with

1048
00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:03.000
<v Speaker 3>more of tech Talk Radio.

1049
00:52:03.239 --> 00:52:05.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean de Weird.

1050
00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:08.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm Matt Jones. You can find us on the webit

1051
00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:10.440
<v Speaker 2>tech talk radio dot com.

1052
00:52:10.519 --> 00:52:13.679
<v Speaker 3>We'll be right back and now fact to tech talk Radio.

1053
00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:17.159
<v Speaker 2>Now. We we talked about this product a couple of

1054
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<v Speaker 2>weeks ago, and I'm curious if you used it, Sean

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<v Speaker 2>nine Nite. Do you remember when we were chatting about

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<v Speaker 2>that one.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I did, right. I think I ran it

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<v Speaker 4>during the show that that episode to get a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of the things that I didn't have installed. So nine

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<v Speaker 4>Night is this fantastic website nine Night dot com, I

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<v Speaker 4>n t E dot com And you can literally just

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<v Speaker 4>go it. Just you go to the website. It's gott

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<v Speaker 4>look at all these applications. I can just click click, click,

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<v Speaker 4>click Chrome, whatever browser're using, whatever, message system, media, imaging,

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<v Speaker 4>document security utilities, storage, developer tools. You just click the

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<v Speaker 4>box you hit get your nine Night it devout. It

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<v Speaker 4>gives you this package and it downloads and installs all

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<v Speaker 4>of those programs for you, and.

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<v Speaker 1>You did this when you were going to Windows eleven.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I went to Windows eleven and then I was

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<v Speaker 4>like just going through, like I wrote a list. I

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<v Speaker 4>literally wrote a document saying what do I have installed

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<v Speaker 4>on my computer? And I went through and I said, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I've got this, got this, got this, got this, got this,

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<v Speaker 4>And then I went through and deleted as I installed right,

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<v Speaker 4>And this would have saved me, I don't know, two

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<v Speaker 4>hours of my time probably of just going through and

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<v Speaker 4>going to the website downloading the Okay, got the installer, cool,

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<v Speaker 4>got the install cool this. Just you click, you literally

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<v Speaker 4>just do. It's like fifteen clicks and you've got a

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<v Speaker 4>wrapped up package with all of the programs that you're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna want that you probably don't even know you need.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to tell you one of the most frustrating

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<v Speaker 1>things is doing a new installer Windows, getting all your

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<v Speaker 1>programs and doing a new phone smartphone you're going from

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<v Speaker 1>one to the other or just brand new phone.

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<v Speaker 3>It can be it can be a real pain.

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<v Speaker 4>The other the other thing, the other thing I'll tell

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<v Speaker 4>you too, is remember if you have saved passwords in

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<v Speaker 4>your Google Chrome or anything like that, to make sure

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<v Speaker 4>you've got that backed up, because if you move everything

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<v Speaker 4>over and you don't bring certain things with you, you're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna have to relog into everything and you're gonna need

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<v Speaker 4>to remember your passwords for everything.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think, Matt, you've felt my pain in that one.

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<v Speaker 2>With that one, I will recommend. I've moved away from

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<v Speaker 2>like Chrome holding all my passwords. I used Bitwarden. I

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<v Speaker 2>used to use last Pass, but they had won too

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<v Speaker 2>many breaches for my taste, and that is one, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, one breach is too many for my taste.

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<v Speaker 3>One pass is the one I use, so I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, Bitwarden one pass. Anything that's a password management solution,

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<v Speaker 2>I highly recommend people look at that because then you

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<v Speaker 2>really just have to remember your master password and that's

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<v Speaker 2>it's it, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it for this week's Tech Talk Radio. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for joining us again. If you have a question, feel

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<v Speaker 1>free to drop us a line. Hope you had a

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<v Speaker 1>great Thanksgiving. Be careful with cyber Monday. We were gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go over some of those things to be careful for.

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<v Speaker 3>We've run out of time. Just be safe when you're online.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Andy Taylor, I'm shy to weird.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Matt Jones. You can find us at blog dot tech,

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<v Speaker 2>talk radio dot com. Have a great holiday, everybody,